Devon and Sydney Carlson: Sisters, Situationships, & Starting a Business (FBF)

This episode, Devon and Sydney Carlson join Father Cooper. They’re sisters, best friends and business partners. Devon and Sydney recount how a bathroom run-in with Miley Cyrus led to the overnight development of their company, Wildflower. The sisters spill all of their secrets while playing a game of “Who is More Likely to ...” Which Carlson sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club and who will be texting their ex once they get drunk? Which sister gives better head? Devon and Sydney do not hold back while discussing their dating lives. Devon reveals the extreme lengths she went to in order to stalk her ex on social media and how she struggled being single after a long term relationship ended. Sydney opens up about her ex’s drug addiction, the effect it had on her mentally and physically, and how it ultimately led her to push away from family and friends.

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  I like wanna take off my shoes and like get cozy now.

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  Do it, do it, do it.

• 2:12Speaker 02

  There's water behind you if you need it. For me, it's like, I kind of think I wanna drink. I'm suddenly nervous.

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  Should we go get a drink?

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  Yeah.

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  Okay, let's go.

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  What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper.

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  Let me hear you guys.

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  Give me like a little like.

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  Hey. Hi, Alex. Ooh.

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  Ooh, wait, maybe bring yours down so I wanna see your face a little. Take off your top.

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  Sydney, bring that closer to your mouth.

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  Is this good?

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  I don't know why you're singing, but I love it.

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  I actually don't need to sing at all.

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  Devin and Sydney Carlson, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

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  There's like no crowd.

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  Let's start off with, you guys are the first official sisters I have ever had on Call Her Daddy.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Really?

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  Or I guess like people related even.

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  We clap a lot. Carlson clap. My dad calls it the Carlson clap because we clap all the time. I think we got it from them. Anytime, my parents will always start to clap and it just has gone down to us. When we were little, like anything, the smallest things we did, they'd be like, "Chocolates!" Even now, we like walk in their house and they're like.

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  I love it because you guys keep clapping at me and I'm like.

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  I'm like, "Welcome to Call Her Daddy!" Okay, you just had a birthday.

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  I just had a birthday.

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  Happy belated birthday. You went to Vegas.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I went to Vegas.

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  Tell me, what was the most like memorable moment in Vegas? What happened? What did you do?

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Um, well, the entire trip was like kind of a surprise. Yeah, she didn't know. A few months ago, we were all sitting in my bedroom and I was like, what are we gonna do for my birthday? Like, we gotta make it big. And, cause it was like my first, whatever.

• 4:08Speaker 00

  First single birthday?

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  In a while? Okay, we can say it. We can say it. Okay, okay. First single birthday in a while, you were gonna do it. You gotta do it big.

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  Do it big. And I was like, Katy Perry, obviously. Yeah. We have to see. That's what like started the idea of going to Vegas. So then we were looking up the dates and then she happened to be playing and so we're like, fuck it. And then I started getting closer and they're like, what do you wanna do? And I was like, can part of my gift just be that I don't plan it? Like, can you guys just plan it? So everything was kind of a highlight. But I feel like, one of my favorite parts was when we were all at the lobby bar and we, everyone kept coming down and like showing off their outfits. And we'd be like, woo! Yeah. It was so cute. Because we didn't stay in the same room. We all stayed in separate rooms. So it kind of felt like camp. And then everyone, we would like group chat. It was summer camp.

• 4:51Speaker 00

  What are you wearing?

• 4:52Speaker 02

  We're meeting at the lobby. And then everyone would come down. It was like a fashion show, seeing everyone's like outfits. I don't know.

• 4:57Speaker 00

  Okay, so you were there?

• 4:58Speaker 02

  Yes.

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  Do you usually get invited to each other's shit?

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. Within the past few years.

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  Well, cause we were just like. Sisters for a really long time, like just related. I feel like in high school.

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  When did you become friends? Walk me through the, the experience.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  High school, we were definitely like sisters, still like friends. We never have really fought. I don't think we've ever had a real fight. Every fight has been about clothes. Like screaming, crying, clothes.

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  In unison.

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  Yeah.

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  Been about clothes. Why are you fighting over clothes?

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  Because like you borrowed that without asking. Yeah. My first job, I spent all of my money on mainly like gas and clothes.

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  Got it.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  And I would work hours for like little money. And then I'd go to the Urban Outfitters sales section, buy one thing and then go to wear it and it's gone. And I'm like, and I'm like.

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  I worked so hard to buy this fucking shirt and she's wearing it without asking.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  Right. And then there was like the trade. It's like, okay, well, if you borrowed that without asking, then I get to wear two things that you've never worn. But you can't post photo on it.

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  Are you guys in the same friend group?

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  Yeah. We're like, we hang out every day, basically.

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  Yeah.

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  Like our friend group is the same. We're like a friend group. It was like Sydney went through like a gnarly relationship and then got out of it. And I feel like we weren't close at all during that relationship. And it really made me be like, oh my gosh, okay, once she's out of this, like I can't, it showed me like what, I, I almost lost my sister, I felt like as a, like in my life. And I was like, I'm never letting this happen again. She is like, I'm not, I'm like forcing her to be my friend, basically. And then after the relationship, we became really close.

• 6:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did you feel that too?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a fact.

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  Friends are amazing. But like, friends are friends. Like, they're not your blood. The fact that you guys are friends and your blood.

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  Yeah. I think we forget sometimes. And our friends sometimes are like, I always forget you guys are like sisters. Like, we hang out with like sisters. Like, it doesn't feel like. But it's, we'll also do like our bickering fights about like, just sister. And our friends will be like, sister fight.

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  But it'll last like five minutes and then we'll be like, should we go get dinner?

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  new arrivals from American Eagle, kinda obsessed. We're talking sweet dresses, soft sweaters you'll want to live in, on trend jeans and cargos you'll want to wear on repeat. And if you see a style you love, grab it now because you already know the good stuff doesn't stay in stock for long. You can check it all out at ae.com or just go to the store. I wanna get an idea of your personalities, but described by the other person. Devin, you go first. Describe Sydney's personality and how like friends view her and like who is she in the friend group and like what is her personality?

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Well, give me the fucking tea. Yeah. Sydney is like the funny, the funny one. She's like the funniest one out of all of our friends. Like Sydney can never be serious for more than like five seconds. She's perfect and she's also fun. I don't know. She's not silly or goofy. She's just like dry, funny, serious.

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  Okay, dry humor and monotone is the fucking funniest thing.

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  That's what she is.

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  When you're like, what did you just say? You're like, absolutely. Okay, that, I feel like we get, already got to know you a little bit better. Now do it for Devin.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Devin's not the quiet one.

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  She can be put in a room with complete strangers and walk out with ten friends, ten new numbers, going lunch plans, like she

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  No, that's Sydney.

• 9:24Speaker 03

  No, oh my god, no. We are Okay, but that's when I'm drunk and I give people my number. That's completely different.

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  Like alcohol was involved.

• 9:32Speaker 03

  I'm like, she can do this just like naturally. That's where we're like very different. Like she's like social butterfly can like talk to anyone, be friends with anyone. And it's honestly really, it's like a talent of hers.

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  And you're like the first one, if you're walking the door, you're talking first.

• 9:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  And then she's following you with like hilarious jokes.

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  Yeah.

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  The joke was always like, whenever people get to meet us, they'd always be like, Sydney's really the funny one. Like you think Devon's the funny one, but then you get to know us, they're like, Sydney's the funny one.

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  And are you okay with that?

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  I, it's true. I can't really be mad.

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  Like this is reality and I have to just appreciate it and accept it.

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  We work perfectly together.

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  Your sisters, your best friends and your business partners. Your company, Wildflower, creates the best phone cases. I'm pretty sure when we were drunk at Olivia O'Brien's music video or somewhere, you guys like light me, like you lightly started telling me this. I think it was. We were like upstairs.

• 10:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

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  Oh my god, you came over before. You came over to Olivia's.

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  Oh my god, yes, and you broke the latex outfit.

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  Oh my god, I did.

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  Yeah, and it was like so awkward because I didn't know anyone. I was high, high girls and you guys were so nice. You were like, show us your vagina, let's just get out of the way, let's go.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, I remember that. And we were like, we love her.

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  And then we got drunk at the music video while Olivia's like crushing it in the corner. We're like, she's working, we're just gonna get hammered. And you guys started to tell me the story of how it all came to be. Tell us the story for the daddy gang that doesn't know.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Well, it happened ten years ago now. We just celebrated our ten year anniversary.

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  Congratulations, that's fucking ball.

• 11:07Speaker 03

  Thank you, it's crazy.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Holy shit.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Very crazy. Um, my, I really wanted a phone case for my birthday and there was, like iPhones had just come out, so there wasn't really cute accessory phone cases. It was just kind of like the solid color protective ones. Like it wasn't like thought of an accessory.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Um, the Otter Box or whatever.

• 11:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was just like, just to cover your phone. And our mom has always been very creative and crafty. She was making like the shorts with like the studs on them and putting like sewing fabric on them. Like she's always just in very like DIY.

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  She's been an art teacher.

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  She was an art teacher. She just like loves doing stuff like that. So she thought to get a clear phone case, put fabric in it and stud the outside of it like herself. And so she made a few of them and gave them to me and Devon. We went to school and our friends were like, what is that? We want that. So she made them for our friends. And so like our friend group had them at school and people were like seeing them and we would go to the mall and people would stop us and be like, where did you get that phone case? Like random people all the time. So the first day, my mom actually carried extras in her car because people would stop us that often. She would have been like, well, I have some if, you know, you wanna buy them off of us.

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  Company or anything. We literally were just like

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  And it wasn't an idea to make it a company at all.

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  We just were like, oh, well, tell our mom what type of fabric to buy and like what stud patterns to do. Like we literally didn't. There was no vision of growing it at all.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Or having a company that was no one's plan.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. So then one day, she was keeping him on her. And we went out to dinner.

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  The four of us.

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  The four of us, our family. And we got up to use the bathroom and we were waiting in line and Miley Cyrus walked out of the bathroom stall. And this was like Miley's bun era.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Like, and I was the biggest Hannah Montana fan. Like

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  Me too.

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  Girls at school knew me as the girl who was obsessed with Hannah Montana. Like, yeah, my obsession.

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  Obsessed.

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  She walked out and I was like, holy fuck, like

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  I was like, wait. And I was like, this is my in, I have to say something. And I was like, I know it's really annoying, but do you mind if we take a photo together? And so then we took a picture together. And I took it with the phone that had the phone case on it. And Miley was like, that phone case is so cute. Where's it from? And we were like, our mom made it. Um, she was like, does she have a company? We were like, no. And she said, is your mom here? We were like, yeah. She's like, can I go meet her? And we were like, sure. Didn't even go pee. Walk out of the bathroom. And we're like, walking back to our table, me, Devon, Miley and our parents are like, what are they doing? Like what's going on?

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  There was like a girl we went to school with tweeting like, holy shit.

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  Like what is going on? Like I see the Carl Sings. And we're like, we're like walking out of the bathroom and we, she, Miley taps our mom on the shoulder and is like, did you make these phone cases? Like, they're so cute. And we were like, yeah. And she was like, you guys should start a business. Like this is really cool. This is really cool idea. You guys should like start a business. And my dad looked at her. My dad was a graphic designer for years. And so he looked at Miley and said, we'll have a website in the morning.

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  Yeah.

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  And we were like

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  Yeah, we will.

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  And in the midst, she, she got my Twitter handle. And so she ended up

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  We gave her all the cases off our phones too, and the ones in the car.

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  Yeah.

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  We were like, take, take everything. What do you want? You could have everything. She went back to her table, took a photo of them, tweeted it.

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  Tagged me in her tweet. Everyone started. And this was like twenty twelve Twitter. Like no one, it was unheard of to get mentioned by like

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  Yeah.

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  Anyone, like a celebrity or anything like that. And so

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  And all of our phones had died. So we didn't even know. We're driving home, like freaking out, waiting to get a phone charger. All of us plug our phones in. We're like

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  Oh my god.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  And all the phones like And everyone from school is texting me.

• 14:51Speaker 03

  Texting us like, what's this tweet? My dad stays up all night that night.

• 14:56Speaker 00

  I mean, when Miley Cyrus fucking looks at you and is like, you need to have a company and your dad's like, there will be, we'll have it tomorrow.

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  So then we started tweeting, like responding to people like wildflowercases.com. We had no inventory. We had nothing. We ended up selling our house. And that funded all of Wildflower and we moved into our grandma and grandpa's house. And we still ran all of Wildflower for the first five years inside of our house. And we would, I did all of the, yeah, I quit my job first. I did.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  Our mom quit her job and then our dad, when he did, we were like, okay, this is like real.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  This is real. So we, like, I tried to go to college. I really was like kind of embarrassed about, like, it was weird because no one was starting companies. Like it was me and Sydney kind of like Sydney more so because she was like a freshman and it was taking time away from hanging out with her friends.

• 15:51Speaker 03

  It was like weird.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  It was weird to start a business. So it wasn't like as supported as it is now. So

• 15:57Speaker 00

  I guess I could kind of see that because they're like, what are you doing? And like a business, no one thinks that's cool.

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  You're not going to college? And we were, I was like

• 16:04Speaker 03

  I had one friend in high school throughout all of this because they had thought it was different and weird and like it, it wasn't the normal.

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  It was a lot of just like making fun, like, like, oh, little, like whatever. We would, I

• 16:18Speaker 03

  And like posting on Instagram was like weird.

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  I think people that are now beginning the TikTok phase of like feeling embarrassed that if like kids find their TikTok in school because people are like, oh, it's embarrassing. And it's like, no, it's not. Why is it embarrassing? Have you guys ever talked to Miley about that, like whole blow up and moment?

• 16:37Speaker 02

  I did recent, not like recently, but beginning of this year. One of our friends was working with her and I got the opportunity to like meet her and hang out with her.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  We actually saw her a lot. She was really great and really cool. And I just kept being like, I owe so much to you. Like you don't understand.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  It's really fucking cool to see how much you guys have grown and also how close you guys are. So it hasn't broken up the family.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  No, if anything, it was like our family depends on this. So if not, everyone's not holding up their part of the bargain, like then we're not gonna have a roof over our head. So it was like, literally, we had to work. I mean, I feel like now we're at a point where we've been able, we're lucky enough to build a team that we're like, we genuinely trust and have been able to delegate enough stuff out. So now it's like, I feel like I'm actually starting to live my college years since I like worked through my real college years.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  But I mean, I'm just so like endlessly happy and grateful and like just

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  It's still very surreal.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  It's crazy.

• 17:43Speaker 00

  Girls, we're gonna talk about your dating lives. Take your sip of alcohol. Here we go. I'm gonna go back and forth between both of you, okay? I'm gonna give you each the love and the attention that you deserve. Devon, we're starting with you, sweetie, okay? Are you currently dating anyone?

• 18:02Speaker 03

  Um, yes.

• 18:04Speaker 00

  How serious is it? Has he met your family? Tell us.

• 18:08Speaker 02

  Well, there, there's like

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  Blushing.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  Oh, she's blushing.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  He

• 18:21Speaker 00

  She doesn't know what to say. Take your time.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  He's really, he's, it was like

• 18:27Speaker 00

  Just share where you're comfortable, like fun stuff.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Well, we so obviously I was in a relationship for a very long time, a public relationship and um, we had like the most mutual breakup ever and we still are totally chill and friends and I and supportive of each other and whatever and um, but then I was like, holy fuck, I'm single for the first time in my entire life. Well, adult life, basically. And uh, I just went on a wild journey. That's I feel like lasted almost a yearish.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  And it the so the guy I'm currently with was a part of that early on and has just kind of been with me back and forth through that. But now we're uh exclusively seeing each other and he has made it through my craziest moments. And still likes me for whatever reason.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  Thank you for sharing. Can you give us a little bit of an explanation when you're talking about like a wild year? Just, just a little bit of what you're talking about.

• 19:41Speaker 02

  I was just like zero fucks, like I'll go on a date with anyone right now, like just really throwing myself out there and making up for lost time and having so much fun.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  Good for you.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  I kept being like nervous that no one like, no one was gonna like, like me or hit on. I, I was so insecure about it.

• 20:05Speaker 00

  I get it. When you're in a long-term relationship, first it's a little shocking to end that, whether it was like a good breakup, bad breakup. It's like, I'm single. What does it even mean? Like, how do I even act? What the fuck do I do? And so you just went like a little wild and you had a fucking great year.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just kept being like scared that people were think that I like, thinking I was being crazy, but in my head, I'm like, I have never like done this. Like, there's no way that I'm being crazy.

• 20:29Speaker 00

  Did you think she was being crazy?

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Yes. No, I thought she, I thought she was more crazy at the end of your relationship. Then out of it.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  So you were happy she was out of it?

• 20:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was like honestly, the best months ever. I was like, this is the most fun we've ever had. And it kind of was a little bit of the same feeling that like she had when I was in a relationship, but not as intense at all. But was just like, wow, we're really like just free and hanging and like our friend group was just like, it was just so like free.

• 20:57Speaker 00

  Right. Do you think you're more of a relationship girl?

• 21:00Speaker 02

  I think for being single, yeah. From like the moments that I was single, I just kept finding myself like in real like, like

• 21:12Speaker 00

  Are you single?

• 21:13Speaker 02

  I'm single.

• 21:15Speaker 00

  Are you more a relationship girl or single girl?

• 21:18Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know because like she's a, the type of relationship girl where she will get in multiple relationships very easily. I might be a relationship type of person, but I don't get into them very often at all.

• 21:30Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  Even in like high school, she had a different boyfriend every month. I think I had one maybe all four years. Like I just, it takes me a lot to get to that point to actually date someone.

• 21:41Speaker 00

  Everyone's got their own thing. Like I have friends like both.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  And that works for her.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  Totally.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  She's just so harsh and it's like, but the thing is, the things that she says aren't like not true. Like she'll, she would bring up things about like a guy I was seeing and I was like, oh fuck, like I was, a guy was dropping me off at a hotel and she was like, I thought it was your, or she goes up to him and goes, I thought you were her Uber driver.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  And he was like, hey, I was like.

• 22:09Speaker 00

  Oh, I thought you were the Uber.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  I literally said then that afterwards, I was like, oh my God, I called him the Uber driver.

• 22:14Speaker 00

  Was he like mortified?

• 22:15Speaker 02

  He needed it.

• 22:16Speaker 00

  He needed to be humbled.

• 22:19Speaker 00

  Okay, so you will call out shit about the guy. She's seeing like what the fuck.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  She will literally be sitting on my couch and being like, make me a latte. Oh, and he made this guy, she was like, same. I was like, I want a smoothie and he made me a smoothie and he put chocolate chips in it.

• 22:32Speaker 00

  Why do you do that? Just like test the like boundaries?

• 22:34Speaker 02

  I just like, it's very entertaining for me to watch all of this happen. So it's just like, I'm like watching TV and like can be a part of it.

• 22:41Speaker 00

  How does it make you feel when she's doing this?

• 22:43Speaker 02

  I just love when my sister interacts with any guy that I've seen at all. Cause I feel like it takes a lot for her to be herself around people.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  Okay, right.

• 22:52Speaker 02

  And that's why I like the new guy that I've, that I'm with. The fact that she can like be her funny self around him like means more to me than like almost anything. But I just could think I care a lot what my friends think. Like if my friends don't like someone, I'm pretty like, when it comes to guys, I'm like, oh, they're done.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  Then it's not.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  It's not happening.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  Have you gone on any dates recently?

• 23:16Speaker 02

  I have been on one date my whole life.

• 23:18Speaker 00

  Are you and Stas?

• 23:21Speaker 00

  She said that, she was like, I don't go on dates. Like I'll see you at like Hyde or like I'll see you at like, oh fuck, Stas. And she was like, or they come to my house. Why do you think you're just like not dating? How do you meet people?

• 23:34Speaker 02

  I guess I, Stas' house. I guess I, I don't, I don't know. I just, I have never been interested in that type of dating. Like going on dates with new people, I'd, everyone that I have gotten into a relationship with, I have been friends with and become really close with. And then I'm like, oh my God, we have feelings. We're dating.

• 23:55Speaker 00

  Got it, got it.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  I'm just, not even that it's like hard or uncomfortable. I just don't care to. I'm not that type of dater.

• 24:05Speaker 00

  And she went on one date and she was like group chatting us, like who's gonna come meet up with us now?

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Like because I was like instantly not into it and I knew I wasn't into it. I just, I guess also I rarely find people that I feel like I could date seriously. I don't know. There's some people that I'm like, okay, I, there's something about this person that I could like, but that happens very rarely.

• 24:27Speaker 00

  I think that's fair. Okay, how would you each describe each other's type?

• 24:35Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm curious what you will say. Sydney likes like, well, they have to be funny.

• 24:42Speaker 00

  Okay, funnier than you?

• 24:45Speaker 02

  Sydney has to find them funny.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Which is like unique sense of humor. Um, she kind of likes when they're like, I don't wanna like offend anyone.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  Go for it. What are you gonna say?

• 25:01Speaker 02

  But she likes like,

• 25:05Speaker 02

  What's the nicest way to put it?

• 25:09Speaker 02

  Sydney likes interesting looking people. Like they have to be unique looking. There's something like almost off about them or their style is very like weird. Like the normal person would be like, they're weird. That's Sydney's type.

• 25:27Speaker 00

  And what do you say back to that?

• 25:30Speaker 02

  I would agree. That's a funny way to describe it.

• 25:32Speaker 00

  How would you describe it?

• 25:33Speaker 02

  I just like, I'm really attracted to men who are like very comfortable in themselves and who they are. And like, don't just give off that vibe like they don't care what other people think of them and they will wear whatever they want, look however they want. And they're just like confident in that and who they are. I think it makes me very comfortable around them and be like, I could totally be myself, say whatever I want, wear what I want. And they would be like, that's cool.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  Give me Devon's type.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Honestly, you're kind of all over the place with the types.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  Is it musicians all through and through?

• 26:08Speaker 02

  Usually musicians is like always, always an attraction to her.

• 26:12Speaker 00

  It's not my fault. Okay, what did you say?

• 26:14Speaker 02

  It can be a musician. And that ranges in all areas. But as long as they're a musician, I think she's has some sort of attraction.

• 26:22Speaker 00

  Is it because they sing to you?

• 26:24Speaker 02

  No, I like, I find, I just find like what Sydney said, like when someone's so themselves, like that to me is so attractive. Like when they just don't like, they aren't trying to impress anyone and, and I think that they're cool.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  Totally.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  Like, I just think that that's, or I find them interesting. But like the musician part, I think dating wise, my lifestyle just works well with someone who's like, like our schedules usually work better when it's like we're constantly both traveling.

• 26:55Speaker 00

  You're a backstage bitch. That's fucking.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Backstage lifestyle. Well, we were dancers. We like music, but it's just funny because half the time, I'm literally like, I like, the music that I like is never really like the guys that I.

• 27:09Speaker 00

  Right.

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• 29:49Speaker 03

  We just did not talk about it. But I knew. It was very, but it was more so because my boyfriend and her boyfriend weren't like, didn't really mesh. And he was like, they didn't ever want to be in the same place. So it, not because anything had happened. It was more just like, no communication was the communication. So it was just constantly avoiding each other. And then I was like, obviously I have to be loyal to the person that I was with and she felt the same. So then we were just kind of like coexisting and working together.

• 30:27Speaker 00

  So when you guys would work, would you just like not talk?

• 30:29Speaker 03

  I mean, we were so busy. There was not really any talking. I did customer service and she was packing and shipping every order. And so it was like literally just hours of me responding or answering phone calls and Sydney just like. But we wouldn't hang out outside of that.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  And did your parents know what was going on?

• 30:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, they weren't too fond of him either. I don't think anybody was, but I also think everyone has to have a relationship like that. It was like such an insane experience, but I'm so glad it happened. Like I forever, I'm like so grateful of that relationship. And I also was like, I think I met him when I was like 18, 19, and it lasted till I was like 22. So it was like a lot of, I was young and I, that was kind of my first like big intense relationship. And it just took everything out of me and I had never been in something that intense. And I, I, I mean, I talk about it. It's not like something I hide at all, but he was a drug addict.

• 31:30Speaker 03

  And that was something that kind of developed over the years and also something that I didn't know much about, being so young. I didn't know what anything was or like what was bad, what wasn't. And also something that I didn't want to talk to my family about or my friends about. You know, how do you like tell your friends and family that that's what you're dealing with and going through? So like that kind of ate at me inside and took a lot of like, everything out of me. That just consumed me like I bleached my hair, classic when you're in like a terrible relationship and like my hair was falling out. I had like an eating disorder. I stopped talking to a lot of my friends, my family, like.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Talking and.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  I just like consumed it all in myself because it was so like, I was trying to help him and be there for him, but also like, he wasn't giving that to me. It was like the lowest lows I've ever had, but also when it was great, it felt like amazing. So like I held on to those moments and it was just a lot. But you know, our parents have been together since they went to prom together in high school, like they.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  Parents were each other's first boyfriend and girlfriend and they've, they're still together.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  They're like, so growing up, that was like my view of what love is. Like you find that one and you do anything to make it work, which is amazing. And I'm so glad we have that and that they have that, but also getting into a relationship like that, I'm like, I will fight for this. I will do anything to keep it, you know, no matter how much it hurts or whatever, like this is what love is. And I had to learn that's not the truth, you know? When it hurts you that bad, that's when you don't, you know, you say this isn't right.

• 33:10Speaker 00

  I, thank you for sharing that because I had something similar in high school. That was like my first love and I really think a lot of people will, will relate to like, the good is like in moments, because it's so good, because you're contrasting the awfulness of those moments. And so you're like, holding on to the good. And I think that like, I mean, everyone knows, once you're out of it and you're like, oh, I did distance myself from my friends and family. You can look back, but when you're fucking in it, it's literally, you're just trying to survive.

• 33:37Speaker 03

  Blinded. You're completely blinded. I had no idea. And it honestly took a few years out of that to just get back to like myself. I like, I didn't even think about dating or like seeing other people. I was just like, okay, I need to get back to like myself and like my friends and my family and like focus on myself. And after that, like that took a few years. I'm like currently the best I've ever been and like.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  Carl, say clap.

• 34:04Speaker 03

  So content being alone, almost too content where I'm like, I would rather stay home than go out at this point, but I'm, I probably could be in a relationship if I wanted to right now, but I'm very content.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  Now knowing, have you guys had conversations about like, fuck, we can never let this happen to each other again and like lose each other in those moments?

• 34:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. I was pretty like, when she, when I, she called me and I was at breakfast with my boyfriend and she was like, he cheated on me. We just broke up and I dropped everything, didn't even finish my meal and just immediately drove home. Called mine. Called, I literally was like, oh my God.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  Everyone's like. I know. It's so, I called our childhood best friend who basically was like Sydney's second older sister. I was like, they broke up. She's like, I'm on my way. So we all literally, I called everyone and we all got there as fast as we could. And then my best friend Nicole and I took Sydney to Disneyland the next day and we kept being like, because the friends that she had had at that time that she was like closest with, I felt like, didn't ever like tell her like, get the fuck out of there. Like a lot of the friends that wanted, she, it was like, she didn't want to hear what we were saying necessarily. And I was like, we gotta show her what it's like to like be treated right, have really good friends and healthy relationships.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  And so I was like welcoming Sydney in with open arms to anything we were doing. I was like always inviting my sister, even if she didn't come 20 times in a row. I was like, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, until she like finally started coming and having fun and then getting comfortable. And then she just like blossomed into the Sydney that we've known all along.

• 35:52Speaker 00

  How did you find out he cheated?

• 35:54Speaker 03

  The girl, well, the last time. Girl.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  The girl DM'd me and it was, he was, he was also a musician, but was on tour and it happened somewhere and she like sent me photos in his shirt and was like.

• 36:11Speaker 00

  That feeling when you find out and you're like, I don't even know what to do with myself right now.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  Oh my God, my stomach, I like all my anxiety, everything goes to my stomach, which is why I think it made me like just not eat because that's immediately what I feel is in my stomach. And I was like so lost because I didn't have close friends. I barely talked to my family. I felt like my world was like, oh my God, this can't end. Like I have nothing, but thank God.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  Thank God.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  I'm like, thank you for cheating on me. That was like the best thing you've ever done.

• 36:43Speaker 00

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• 38:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have like 10 accounts. Of course. I have like, I'm like, how many do I have? I have like this stalker account. You have your Finsta, you have your stalker. Of course. Oh, I am psycho.

• 38:33Speaker 00

  Wait, tell me.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  CSI.

• 38:34Speaker 00

  I love it. Oh.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  She actually is.

• 38:36Speaker 00

  I, I love that. Like, I love you even more now because.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  She's like.

• 38:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, she's like.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  Well, no, I, when my ex-boyfriend used to go on tour, when we got back, because we dated, we broke up, then we got back together and that was like the seven year.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  I, in the beginning, was a fucking maniac. I don't know how he put up with me.

• 38:56Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  I would create, I would go on and I would like look up their tour or I had the tour manager, like he forwarded me their tour schedule. And so I would go to every venue's Instagram page and like watch every story of everyone that was there. And then look at like the girl, everyone's profile that was there, tagged photos, everything.

• 39:16Speaker 00

  I actually really respect you for admitting it because I feel like there's no shame in stalking. Like, who gives a fuck? It's too fucking easy.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  Everyone does it. Everyone. I know, so you don't, you're lying.

• 39:26Speaker 00

  I know.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  Well, every, like even this guy that I had gone on a few dates with, he like DM'd me and it was the first time that I had gone and met up with someone over DM that I didn't previously know, but like he knew people that I knew and whatever. And so I was like, okay. And we hung out and he's like, so are we just gonna act like we haven't like completely stalked each other?

• 39:48Speaker 00

  I love that.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  And I was like, you're like attractive. Suddenly it was like he was talking, bringing up things and I was bringing up things. And then I was like, suddenly I'm 20 times more comfortable with you. Yeah. It feels like I know you already. We were arguing by the end of the date and I was just like, whatever.

• 40:03Speaker 00

  Well, because it's also like, let's just keep it real. I know who your ex-girlfriend is already.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  And this is our first date.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:08Speaker 00

  And I know who she is, where she, where she works, like it's.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Everything.

• 40:12Speaker 00

  I like to just get it. I agree. Let's just get it out there.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 00

  Girls, we're about to play a game. This is, we're like, okay, go under your seats. You have these two little cards.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  What?

• 40:21Speaker 00

  Basically, we're gonna play which sister do not.

• 40:25Speaker 02

  I was feeling under the chair.

• 40:26Speaker 00

  Like, we're, okay. So we're playing which sister is more likely to. And so don't show each other, but like basically I'm gonna ask and you'll hold up whichever, whichever sister is more likely to.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 40:38Speaker 00

  Okay. Which sister is more likely to be the favorite child?

• 40:47Speaker 00

  Wait, why? No shame.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Honestly, Sydney gets away with everything. I always got in trouble for, it's she's done 50 times crazier things, but I always get the blame.

• 40:58Speaker 00

  Youngest child, youngest child.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  That's just the youngest thing.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Which sister is more likely to take something from the other sister's closet without asking?

• 41:10Speaker 00

  This is a great moment. You're both taking accountability.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Well, because I just. I wanna avoid, the thing is, I'm like, if I ask, it's gonna start drama before the night goes out or whatever. I would rather postpone the drama and deal with it later so I can just feel good where the top that I want to wear and then. I think I could steal it and get away with it. I feel like you would.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  Sneaky little bitch.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 41:32Speaker 00

  No.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Maybe she hasn't, I haven't noticed.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  You don't know shit. Okay. Which sister is more likely to post drunk on Instagram?

• 41:42Speaker 02

  It used to be me, but I feel like it's still you.

• 41:48Speaker 00

  What do you drunkenly post? You just not give a fuck. You're like, post.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  Like, she'll just post.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  She just does it.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  I'll just think something so funny and be like, yeah, this is my bit for the night. And then the next morning, I'm like.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  What are you doing?

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, but then I'm like, it's too late. You can't.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  Right, because then they know you regret it.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  And then you can't delete it.

• 42:05Speaker 00

  Which sister is more likely to give better head?

• 42:13Speaker 02

  Fuck us with yourselves, we're like.

• 42:14Speaker 00

  You're like both ourselves, like hi.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  For every answer, I'm like, I'm so weird.

• 42:20Speaker 00

  I love that. I love that. Okay, great, you guys. Great head game. Which sister is more likely to fuck on the first date?

• 42:30Speaker 00

  Sydney's like, do not fuck.

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Like, I don't go on dates, remember?

• 42:33Speaker 00

  On the first hangout, like that doesn't count.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  But guess who? She goes on more dates more.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  Okay, there you go. There you go.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  I have never fucked on the first date.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  I love that for you, Sydney. Get it in and get it out. Okay, goodbye.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  I don't go on dates, okay.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  Which sister is more likely to, if they were ever to go on a reality show?

• 42:53Speaker 00

  Do you want to go on one?

• 42:54Speaker 02

  Yes, she has been trying to get our family on a reality show since she was in high school. Actually, for like a year, we're like talking to people about doing reality show, but.

• 43:02Speaker 00

  I would watch it. One viewer. Get canceled after one season. Which sister is more likely to text their ex when drunk?

• 43:12Speaker 00

  Love that for you. Are you just shooting it out?

• 43:14Speaker 02

  I'll literally be just staring at it and be like. She won't even like tell anyone. She'll do it. But it's not even like, and it'll just be like, oh, fuck. Random person. My random choosing of the night. I'll be like, fuck who am I thinking about?

• 43:25Speaker 00

  And everyone's like, Devin, what are you doing? Devin?

• 43:27Speaker 02

  And she's like.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  I'm like so proud.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's like, also she doesn't get like scary. It's like she will text her ex, do whatever. And then the next morning she'll be like, that last night was so fun. And I'm like, what? Like, how do you do that? She doesn't get like any fear. I love being. It's admirable.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  Which sister is more likely to have a threesome?

• 43:52Speaker 00

  Have you had a threesome?

• 43:54Speaker 02

  She won't call it that, but.

• 43:55Speaker 00

  She won't call it that.

• 43:56Speaker 02

  Because there was.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  There were four. Boom. Even better. Even funnier. I love that for you. Was it fun or was it awkward?

• 44:07Speaker 02

  No, it was great.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  Great.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  And it was, my friend was there. So it was like.

• 44:11Speaker 00

  So it was totally fun. It was fun. Okay, good for you. Which sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club?

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Loki?

• 44:20Speaker 00

  Devin, what the fuck are you doing in the club? Why are you?

• 44:23Speaker 02

  I'm really clumsy, so I knock over a lot of stuff. She'll spill drinks, she'll spill, break things. That's why. That's why. It wouldn't be because I'm like, it would be because I've had two drinks and I like go like. Not trying to fight. We were in Vegas and we're, I went with like some of my old dance friends and we kept knocking over the champagne. And the guy picked up the bottle and he goes, you're done. And we were like, not even drinking. Just because she keeps knocking things over.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  But I feel like you guys are so connected. You'd be like, um, Stas, get me back in.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  She'd be like, security's coming. Tell them you're with Stas.

• 44:51Speaker 00

  It's so good. It's so good. Okay, which one? Oh my, this is a sad one. Which sister is more likely to get cheated on?

• 44:58Speaker 02

  We all know the answer to this. I would never let that. I would literally go to the.

• 45:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. If I found out they were with someone, I'd be like, who the fuck? I'm honestly the face of being cheated on. I mean, like.

• 45:13Speaker 00

  You're over it.

• 45:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  You're done. You're not getting cheated on.

• 45:15Speaker 02

  The glow up it gave me.

• 45:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're, you're gonna be fine.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  I stand by it.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  You're, you're, okay. Which sister is more likely to cheat in a relationship? Do not say that.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  Honestly, I don't think either of us would.

• 45:29Speaker 00

  Loyal, loyal, lovely girls. Just so, so lovely. Okay, yeah. No one's cheating here. We're just getting cheated on over here. Fuck us.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  Okay, which sister is more likely to slide in and DM a celebrity?

• 45:43Speaker 02

  I don't think. Both. No, I've never DM'd anyone.

• 45:48Speaker 00

  You wanna open your phone?

• 45:49Speaker 02

  I literally have it. Really? You've never DM'd anyone? No, I've never gone out of my way to like DM someone that I don't love. I think it's funny sometimes. I haven't in a while. Sydney does it all the time. Takes a screenshot, unsends. Yeah, because I do that to make her laugh. I'll DM someone funny and then unsend it.

• 46:05Speaker 00

  Okay, which sister is more likely to be in an open relationship?

• 46:10Speaker 00

  None.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  I think I'm too, I've literally had gone Yeah, I've gone through moments where I'm like, oh, I could totally if I was like constantly told that I was like

• 46:24Speaker 00

  You're like, I need a lot of reinforcement. So if she's like not shit, sure.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  But I honestly, I don't think that it'd be fair to like the other girls or whatever.

• 46:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, you don't have to give us this, you're like, the, the reason

• 46:39Speaker 00

  I'm gonna be the shit.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  I'm the best. I'm down for like friends with benefits where it's like, okay, you, I know that you're hooking up with other people. Dating, dating. I make you my boyfriend.

• 46:48Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Also, because if I make someone my boyfriend, I don't want to be dating other people. That's not my intentions. So why would we ever do?

• 46:55Speaker 00

  Ever. I want to know both of you. Sydney, you can go first. What is the toxic that you like attract? And you're like, fuck, I hate it that I'm attracted. We all like the toxic. And then how are you toxic in a relationship?

• 47:08Speaker 02

  Um, I think the toxic I'm attracted to, because this could also be someone who's non-toxic, but it mainly is, is like big personalities, like people who are very much their own life, their own ways, big personalities. I could get wrapped up in their life easily in a bad way.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  But it's like exciting and fun to do, but like, it's obviously bad because I'm like separated from my own life. So that, um, I don't know how I'm toxic in relationships. Maybe because I like give too much of myself, like toxic and like bad way for myself.

• 47:47Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, you're like an angel. You're like, I am not, because I'm like, I already know Miss Jealous over here. Just wait to get to me. But I hear what you're saying. You're like, oh, okay. Devin's like, let me go. Okay. So, but I get what you're saying. You just kind of give yourself too much. You like lose yourself.

• 48:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  Okay, we're not letting that happen.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  But I'm not doing it anymore. So don't get any ideas. Sydney is actually the best, like most thoughtful, like girlfriend ever, like even for, like, I love shopping. I'm really good shopping. I'll give you the best, like most thoughtful gift, but words, Sydney will write you a book.

• 48:20Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  And like make it so sweet.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  No, it's cute. I think we should normalize like cute chip for relationships. Like, oh, you're a Sydney, shut the fuck up.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  I'm in love. Okay?

• 48:31Speaker 02

  Shut up. Please, we're in love.

• 48:33Speaker 00

  Right. Okay. What toxic are you attracting Devin? And how are you toxic? I know we kind of heard about your fake account, but.

• 48:40Speaker 02

  I think the toxic that I'm attracted to is like someone who's like good with their words or like knows, is witty.

• 48:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  I think that people like that just know how to get what they want. And I think that, um,

• 49:02Speaker 02

  maybe I know how to get what I want. Do it right back.

• 49:07Speaker 00

  I'll give it right back. I get that. No, that's like a scary combo.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  You're just like, match the energy. So if you are giving me something, then I'm gonna give it back, but like slightly more to the point of like, we're gonna drive each other absolutely insane.

• 49:21Speaker 00

  Lastly, who has like a crazy fucking dating story, whether it was a one night stand, whether it was a bad hookup gone wrong, bad sex?

• 49:30Speaker 02

  I have, I have like a really like, it should be a bad date, but it ended up being a good date.

• 49:35Speaker 00

  Share it. Share it. We're here for it. We love story time.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  Um, I was in New York and it was the day after Valentine's Day. And we had been like, we had gone on a couple of dates before, but it was like only whenever I was like visiting and he had just gotten into town and he was like, okay, I'll pick you up and we'll go out to dinner. And then he texts me before and he's like, would you want to see a movie? And I was like, no, I'm fucking hungry. Like I want to eat. And so he's like, I said, I'm pretty hungry. And he was like, okay, well, I'm not gonna get there for like an hour. And it was like eight o'clock at this point. And Sydney was in a room under me at our hotel. So I kept going through the like staff

• 50:24Speaker 02

  stairs and I went into a room and I was like, it's not gonna be here for another hour. And she's very fucking serious. And I was like, I'm so hungry.

• 50:30Speaker 00

  She like sits on my bed.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  So I was like in such a pissy mood. And so then I stopped answering him. And then he called me and he was like, I'm sorry, I'm running even later than I thought. Like, I don't think I'm gonna get there till like nine thirty.

• 50:45Speaker 00

  Red flags.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  I was like, he's like, do you just want to go see a movie? And I was like, I'm so hungry. I was like, I don't understand. Like, I'm so hungry.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  So we're already arguing. And then I ended up hanging up and he's like, what are you gonna do? And I was like, well, I'm gonna eat. Like I'm, if you don't want to come out here, and I thought we were gonna go to dinner. I've been waiting to eat.

• 51:10Speaker 00

  Right.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  Then I'm gonna go eat. And he's like, where are you going? Whatever. He like told me, uh, gave me a recommendation of a good place to go. And so I go there. And he's like calling me and I was like, decline, decline, decline, like whatever. And he's like, okay, well, I'm at the restaurant that we were gonna meet at. And I was like, okay, well, I'm not. And he was like, do you want me to pick you up? And I was like, obviously. It's February in New York. I'm not fucking walking.

• 51:37Speaker 00

  Right.

• 51:38Speaker 02

  Granted, it was one block away.

• 51:41Speaker 00

  Get in a car, bitch.

• 51:43Speaker 02

  I was like,

• 51:44Speaker 00

  It takes longer to drive.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  I was like, you know where I am. And so then he obviously pulled around, knew exactly where I was, came in, got me in the car and he's like, I can't believe you just made me drive a block. I was like, I can't believe you were an hour and a half late to the date. And so we ended up going on this date and I was just like zero fucks at this point. He like parks, we walk in, we sit, we start eating. And we're just like roasting each other, going on and on, having so much fun. The bill comes. He's like,

• 52:14Speaker 02

  forgot his wallet. And I was like,

• 52:17Speaker 00

  He's the one I called an Uber driver.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  Are you fucking serious? And he starts dying laughing and I just kept being like, I'm so excited to see how you make this up for me. Cause I'm like, I'm not gonna let this go. So I pay for dinner. And then he's like, okay, well, let me, I'll drive you home back to your one block away. And I'm like sitting here, I'm like, oh my God, I'm such a princess. We go outside, his car is towed.

• 52:45Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Gone, gone. The car is gone. And we just started looking at each other, dying laughing. And then, um,

• 52:57Speaker 00

  Did you give him a kiss and go home? You didn't even, did you kiss him?

• 53:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:01Speaker 00

  We slept together.

• 53:04Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 53:04Speaker 02

  Devin's like, I fucked him. What do you mean? Like, what are you talking about? We fully fucked. I gave the best sex of his life and I went and got his car and I paid for the show.

• 53:11Speaker 00

  In the morning, I bought a car back. When a man does that, he's like, ooh, fuck yourself. Like, do the fact, and I fucked him.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  I was like, okay, this is what dating is.

• 53:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's actually such a good story. You're right. Like the ups and downs, the amount of times I can look back in my twenties, even my teens of the time that you're trying to play it off cool, like, but you're waiting and you're waiting.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  But it was honestly, it was, we had such a fun time. And in the morning, he like bought me like a huge bouquet of flowers. It was beautiful. And then he dropped me off and then he met my sister.

• 53:45Speaker 00

  And she roasted him. And that's when you said, I thought you were the Uber driver.

• 53:49Speaker 02

  Deserved.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  Wait, why? What kind of car did you drive?

• 53:51Speaker 02

  It looks like, like the black Lincoln, like town car.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  Like, hi, sir, can I get in next?

• 53:59Speaker 02

  Going wise. I was waving at her out of the front seat like, I was like, why she in the front seat of the Uber?

• 54:05Speaker 00

  Dude, I love it. I also love how you like roast kind of the guys that Devin is with because it puts them in their fucking place.

• 54:13Speaker 02

  Great. I don't think I've ever dated like a not great guy. Like I, I don't really have any bad things to say about anyone that I've like.

• 54:20Speaker 00

  Do you agree with that statement?

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, I don't think they're bad guys at all. They're just a little cringy sometimes.

• 54:26Speaker 00

  And you pointed out.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 54:27Speaker 00

  She loves to point it out. Guys.

• 54:30Speaker 02

  We love Addit.

• 54:33Speaker 00

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