We Read Marjorie Taylor Green's Book

Sophie reads Marjorie Taylor Green's book to Jamie and Robert. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:04Robert Evans?

  Oh, welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast where we are recording a bonus kinda ep- an emergency episode, not for now, but for whenever we have an emergency, uh, and to come in as our pinch hitter and, uh, and really just get some, get some shit recorded, just some absolute garbage. Jamie Loftus, how are you doing?

• 0:28Speaker 00

  Thank you, thank you. Yes, when you think, I need some absolute garbage on wax today.

• 0:34Robert Evans?

  I need some classic crash.

• 0:35Speaker 00

  Who do you call?

• 0:36Robert Evans?

  Yeah, that's right.

• 0:37Speaker 00

  Who do you like, who's definitely around who can slop some shit onto the?

• 0:42Robert Evans?

  We are, we're being sloppy today. I'm about to go out deer hunting, which should be obvious by my clothing. You're in a different kinda camo, Jamie.

• 0:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm in, I'm probably gonna go to a bar and eat a hot dog after this. So this is, you know, the camo of that, the camo of that.

• 0:57Robert Evans?

  You are also planning to shoot something, but yeah.

• 1:00Speaker 00

  I've never sh- I, I know you know this, but I've never shot anything.

• 1:05Robert Evans?

  Okay, that's fair. That's fair. I mean, yeah, cuz it was an axe in Grand Rapids, right?

• 1:10Speaker 00

  It was, okay. Can I tell you something about Grand Rapids really quick? Well, two things. First, I forgot.

• 1:18Robert Evans?

  We're finally getting to confession, folks. This is a big day.

• 1:21Speaker 00

  No, innocent. I went on a podcast recently and like the topic, Grand Rapids kept coming up and I literally, but they like, I was almost certain, I was like, they, they wouldn't know if I made a weird comment about Grand Rapids, they would just be confused. But I, there was a pit in my stomach, like, I should say something.

• 1:40Robert Evans?

  I have to say, I have to make a comment?

• 1:42Speaker 00

  I should say I'm innocent. No, the, the real thing was, I was in Pittsburgh over the summer, um, because Pittsburgh rocks. Do you like Pittsburgh?

• 1:51Robert Evans?

  I, I've never been, actually.

• 1:53Speaker 00

  I think you'd love it. It's really, really fun there.

• 1:55Robert Evans?

  I've heard only good things.

• 1:57Speaker 00

  It rocks. And, uh, I was talking to the hot dog king of Pittsburgh.

• 2:03Robert Evans?

  And that seems like a town where there's competition for the title.

• 2:06Speaker 00

  Yes. I mean, he's like a generational hot dog king and he's the ki- he's like the Mr. Rogers of, uh, Pittsburgh, essentially.

• 2:14Robert Evans?

  I would say Pittsburgh and Detroit would be like the hot dog cities that would be most impressed if someone was the king of. Like if somebody's like, I'm the, I'm the hot dog king of Portland. I'm like, well, who gives a fuck?

• 2:23Speaker 00

  Well. There is one, though. There's, there's one in every town. But yeah, no, Pittsburgh, it's this guy named Rick Seaback who rocks. He makes like these really, really cool PBS documentaries. So he was on stage with me. We were doing a talk back. He's like, easily, I think 40 years older than me, maybe. And he, in conversation, dropped in Grand Rapids. And I was like, that's weird. I kept talking. And then he was like, do you have anything you want to tell me about Grand Rapids? Because he listens to the show, Robert.

• 2:58Robert Evans?

  Oh, God. Our, our, our massive and unprecedented penetration of every demographic has finally come back to bite us in the ass.

• 3:07Speaker 00

  You got the hot dog king. You got the hot dog king of Pittsburgh. You're unfucking stoppable. Yeah. And then he tried to corner me into confessing into murder in front of a crowd full of people who allegedly liked me.

• 3:20Robert Evans?

  A lot of people just care about justice, Jamie. A lot of people just care about justice.

• 3:24Speaker 00

  That's, no, they just want to see a woman hung out to dry. Innocent.

• 3:30Robert Evans?

  This has been a good bit. I was gonna open us with a bit about pedophiles, but this is a lot more fun.

• 3:35Speaker 00

  I mean, yeah, we can, you know, we could always go back to back.

• 3:38Robert Evans?

  No, no, it's been kind of a pedophile dense year for Behind the Bastards, Jamie. I didn't mean to, but we've really wound up hitting them a lot.

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• 5:27Robert Evans?

  Speaking of people who aren't pedophiles in a way I can prove, today we're gonna be reading Marjorie Taylor Greene's book.

• 5:34Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 5:35Speaker 05

  There is an entire section about pedophiles in this book, FYI.

• 5:39Robert Evans?

  I knew it would be relevant. It always somehow is. It always somehow is.

• 5:43Speaker 00

  Wait, so Sophie, you have a signed copy of this book?

• 5:47Robert Evans?

  She sure does. Why don't you tell them that story, Sophie? How did you get a signed fucking copy of Marjorie Taylor Greene's book?

• 5:55Speaker 05

  Uh, I will say, just to say, I don't know, listeners, if you don't listen to our other podcast, It Could Happen Here, you don't know that Robert Garrison and I went to the RNC. And it was weird.

• 6:10Speaker 00

  Not for work, just as fans, right?

• 6:12Speaker 05

  Just for the vibes.

• 6:14Robert Evans?

  Just for the vibes.

• 6:16Speaker 05

  And on a day where I was trying to get us access to things...

• 6:25Speaker 05

  After I had just been invited to by the Heritage Foundation people to their social hour party that I got Robert into, which was fun.

• 6:34Robert Evans?

  Mm hmm. Yeah, a lot of fun.

• 6:37Speaker 05

  Garrison and I walked down a little bit to where Marjorie Taylor Greene was doing a book signing for her new book MTG. Yes, Jamie, it's called MTG.

• 6:50Speaker 00

  Okay, so she's trying to, what is, what is she, is she trying to do an RBG thing? Is she trying to rebrand as a rapper? Like, what's going on?

• 6:58Speaker 05

  I don't know. I mean, the cover of the book, I'm gonna turn my, I am off camera today, YouTube watchers, because I had a bad time at the allergist. Um, but I'm gonna turn my camera on for Jamie and Robert so you can see this cover of, oh, I don't have my camera on.

• 7:13Robert Evans?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 7:14Speaker 05

  Hold on.

• 7:15Speaker 00

  Oh, my god.

• 7:17Robert Evans?

  Yeah, great lighting, too. Really good lighting, Sophie.

• 7:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, the, the, the overhead lighting that I have up really adding to it.

• 7:24Robert Evans?

  That makes it look ethereal, like it, like it, like it's a pillar that landed in the middle of a bunch of apes in like 150,000 B.C. And they're gonna start beating each other to death in order to get access to its wisdom.

• 7:37Speaker 05

  Just to say, just to say, Malcolm, you can put this part up where it's covering my face.

• 7:40Robert Evans?

  Also, is the lady in silhouette on the front supposed to be Marjorie Taylor Greene? Because that does not look like Marjorie Taylor Greene.

• 7:46Speaker 05

  I do, I do believe so.

• 7:48Robert Evans?

  That is not quite a double, but yeah.

• 7:50Speaker 05

  Anyways, I tried to get her to answer a question about education and her people took away my phone as I was doing it. Um, so that, so, so, but, but I got this side copy of this book, which I thought, you know, I know a place where we could read that.

• 8:06Robert Evans?

  Sure.

• 8:07Speaker 00

  I'm trying to think of like what the most cursed signed copy I have against my will. I think that I have like a signed copy of a book that's like one of the doctors that allegedly killed Anna Nicole Smith. For some reason, I have his book and it's signed.

• 8:24Speaker 05

  That's a choice.

• 8:25Speaker 00

  How did I end up with that?

• 8:27Robert Evans?

  Killing Anna Nicole Smith? Yeah.

• 8:29Speaker 05

  The RNC, at this point in the RNC, I was like, you know what?

• 8:35Speaker 05

  Fuck it. I'm gonna get this book. I know, it just like getting all the pamphlets for the Heritage Foundation. It's like, we can do stuff with that. If people need to know what these people are saying, because they are poisoning our world.

• 8:50Speaker 00

  Yes, we can do hard things. I can say that just by looking at the cover, I can tell that you have never opened that book.

• 9:00Speaker 05

  Just, I've opened it once to show a couple of our friends how cursed her signature is.

• 9:10Speaker 00

  Ooh, what do we got?

• 9:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, once again, whip out the old camera, covering my face.

• 9:18Speaker 00

  Any heart punctuation? No, it's just like, you can't even- Oh my gosh, she made it out to you? Yeah.

• 9:24Robert Evans?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:25Speaker 00

  Sophie.

• 9:25Robert Evans?

  Of course, she's a classy lady.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  Sophie.

• 9:27Robert Evans?

  Oh my god, how, why wouldn't you think she would make it out to her? Jesus.

• 9:31Speaker 00

  That's true. That's true. Reach for the stars.

• 9:34Speaker 05

  And she, and, and it wasn't even worth it, because she gave me a really shit answer on education, where she was like, oh, school, school choice, oh, defund the Department of Education, oh, I haven't had an original thought a day in my life.

• 9:48Speaker 00

  Replace incorrect history books with her book.

• 9:52Robert Evans?

  Yeah.

• 9:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:53Robert Evans?

  I think we should replace some of the history books with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

• 9:56Speaker 00

  The video-

• 9:57Robert Evans?

  But I think specifically, we should go for like Edward Gibbons, Rise and Fall of, or yeah, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Just throw Marjorie Taylor Greene's book in for like, volume three of that shit. Make classic scholars work it all out, yeah. See who notices?

• 10:12Speaker 05

  But I, but the video, the video of me asking, and then her people taking away my phone is quite funny. Anyways, uh, this is a very cursed book. The back of it, instead of having like, people who actually like her giving reviews, she just has what I'm-

• 10:30Speaker 05

  Guessing is her most notable enemies, where it's just the first review is, isn't she amazing? Joe Biden, in all caps. This woman should be on a watch list, not in Congress. Hillary Clinton. She must be expelled. AOC. MTG is a cause for trauma and fear among members of Congress. Nancy Pelosi. Just keeps, and then for some reason she goes, the last one is Whoopi Goldberg. I'm like, I didn't know that Whoopi Goldberg was up in that cloud level, but I guess.

• 11:00Speaker 00

  I guess she kind of operates as like, like an elected politician would. I don't remember electing Whoopi Goldberg, but I'm fine with it.

• 11:07Speaker 05

  This woman gets to come and talk about talking over, taking over the country and she's not behind bars. How does that work, Whoopi Goldberg?

• 11:15Speaker 00

  Wow, that's such an approach to like, pull quotes too. It's very megalopolous of her to do.

• 11:21Robert Evans?

  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's a real, it's a real, uh, that guy with the wine move. I forgot what's his name's name for a second there. And still forgotten, what the fuck? I was just listening to a review of that movie. What is it?

• 11:32Speaker 00

  It's Frances Fracopla.

• 11:34Robert Evans?

  Coppola, god damn it, yes, of course.

• 11:36Speaker 00

  I'm sorry, I did want to watch you square.

• 11:38Robert Evans?

  Living male actor today.

• 11:40Speaker 05

  And like normally I'd start at the beginning of a book, but I just wanna, one, one other interesting to note is I've never seen this before, but her end notes, instead of it being like, you know, like normal bibliography style end notes where it's like, tells you the name of a thing. It's just like, and this is a print copy book, it's just like hyperlinks to articles.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, like she's, like she's writing a high school essay or something.

• 12:03Speaker 05

  It's like they're show notes essentially. It's just links to things, but it's, but like, like they're clickable, but it's, um, like, like, but it's, but it's, but it's not like, I.

• 12:18Speaker 00

  Robert, do you think she wrote it? Oh my god, that's so many links.

• 12:22Robert Evans?

  They never do. It's, it's, it's, my guess is...

• 12:26Speaker 00

  There's like 10 pages of that.

• 12:27Robert Evans?

  Just based on the way things tend to work, she probably submitted an outline, or she may have, my guess is she dictated an outline in a conversation with somebody the publisher sent. That person may have been a ghostwriter, or may have handed that off to a ghostwriter, and then she got to approve, probably again verbally, like she may have just had someone read it to her, because she's, she's famous enough that they may have just had someone read it to her, and occasionally she would suggest changes, or maybe she didn't read it at all and just approved it.

• 12:57Speaker 00

  That's my operating theory with the Melania book. I don't think anyone in the whole family knows what it says.

• 13:02Robert Evans?

  I think you probably, it's probably a rare one of these where the author puts in more than about eight hours of actual work.

• 13:09Speaker 05

  Robert, while, while I, while I get to the beginning here, I would like you to look up the publisher, which is WinningPublishing.com. Tell me if you can find-

• 13:16Robert Evans?

  Oh, now that sounds like a real publisher.

• 13:18Speaker 05

  Give me, give me, give me any, any information.

• 13:20Robert Evans?

  That sounds like it's not just a Peter Thiel cutout.

• 13:24Speaker 05

  Anyways, the book starts with a inscription from President Donald J. Trump. Because of course it does.

• 13:33Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, keep it in the family. So it's owned by Donald, Don Jr.

• 13:40Robert Evans?

  It's owned by Donald Trump Jr. and someone named Sergio, Sergio Gore, which is what I would name-

• 13:47Speaker 00

  That sounds like an Italian horror movie director.

• 13:49Robert Evans?

  I would name a bad guy that in like, one of the early Marvel movies.

• 13:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, Sebastian Stan as-

• 13:56Robert Evans?

  I'm looking, he has 14, less than 15,000 publishers.

• 14:00Speaker 00

  No.

• 14:00Robert Evans?

  Oh, that is not a Sergio. Look at that man's face. Jesus Christ. I found his, his Twitter, and I'm sorry. He's, I'll, I'll, I'll pop my screen on here. Look at this, look at this dude. You gotta have a chin to be Sergio. I'm sorry.

• 14:17Speaker 00

  Robert, share your screen really fast. I'd like to see what you're looking at.

• 14:21Robert Evans?

  Look, we're not, we're not in the body shaming here thing, but like, some names are just clearly the wrong name for a person, and this is one of them. Uh, this is just not, this is not a proper Sergio. I'm sorry. Look at this. Look at that. You tell me that's a Sergio. Absolute, that's, that's a guy who was born and raised in Germany, had to leave in late 1945. For some reason moved to Argentina and started calling himself Sergio. That's the kind of Sergio that is.

• 14:52Speaker 00

  I wasn't, he has, he is clearly committed to the conservative school of Twitter pictures for men. Um, the, yeah, the sunglasses out the window at an unf- like the Gen X selfie. It's just a fucking disaster.

• 15:08Robert Evans?

  He's well cast for, if you were, if you were doing a movie about like hidden like Nazis vampires living underground, uh, you could like, this is a guy who you could show that picture and then show a picture of the same guy in like an SS uniform in 1943. And that would be like the big moment where like, oh my God, it's the same guy. He's identical. You realize they've been vampires the whole time. That's how this man looks. That's Sergio Gore.

• 15:33Speaker 00

  He's got his AirPods in.

• 15:35Robert Evans?

  He sure does. What, take him out for the picture, bro? What are you doing? What is wrong with you?

• 15:42Speaker 05

  Anyways, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been one of the most fierce warriors in-

• 15:48Robert Evans?

  Okay, sorry.

• 15:49Speaker 05

  Uh, oh no.

• 15:52Robert Evans?

  Yeah, I was just looking at his posts. I'm just looking at his posts. You read and I'll scroll through these posts.

• 15:58Speaker 05

  You doom scroll, I'll read. Marjorie Taylor, this is a quote from, uh, former President Donald J. Trump, uh, which she does not include the former part in her book. Uh, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been one of the most fierce warriors in Congress for America first. And it all sta- and all it stands for, despite the onslaught of attacks from the Marxist Democrats and the fascists in the media, Marjorie refuses to back down and never stops fighting. She stands with the- All caps, "People, not the politicians."

• 16:25Robert Evans?

  That's good.

• 16:25Speaker 05

  On all caps. "Her America First credentials are forged in steel and with fighters like her, we will make America great again." Jesus Christ.

• 16:34Speaker 00

  I just got really distracted by the Trump.

• 16:37Robert Evans?

  I'm actually extremely angry by this because they've taken a quote from Galaxy Quest, which I would say is one of the chief accomplishments of our civilization, is that movie.

• 16:47Speaker 00

  And of course he co-opted it.

• 16:49Robert Evans?

  And of course he co-opted it. I'm livid.

• 16:52Speaker 00

  God, never give up, never surrender. I don't know how to move on from that, but anyways, let's get moving.

• 16:58Robert Evans?

  No, no, no, let's just go right on because we've looked into Sergio Gore. That's good to know.

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:02Robert Evans?

  I think we have an understanding of who he is as a man.

• 17:05Speaker 05

  Thank you, Sergio, for making this possible.

• 17:07Speaker 00

  So I'm in the table of contents.

• 17:09Robert Evans?

  Choosing to believe the song "Hey Sergio" by Streetlight Man, well, it was originally Thomas Kalanaki with Catch 22, but you get, it's been with a bunch of bands, but I'm choosing to believe it's about him. It's a poll, that song gets more relevant every year, Jamie.

• 17:22Speaker 00

  It's a good song.

• 17:23Robert Evans?

  It's a perfect song.

• 17:25Speaker 00

  It's just a wild poll.

• 17:26Robert Evans?

  It's the apex of ska as an art form.

• 17:29Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 17:30Robert Evans?

  Thank you.

• 17:30Speaker 05

  There's 17 chapters. I'd like each of you to guess the closest you can to chapter titles.

• 17:38Robert Evans?

  You know what I think we're gonna do first, Sophie, is we're gonna pull to ads real quick and then we'll come back and do that.

• 17:43Speaker 05

  Fair enough.

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• 20:02Robert Evans?

  We're back. Sophie, let's go through those chapters.

• 20:06Speaker 05

  No, no, I want you to take a guess. What's one of the... There's 17 things.

• 20:10Robert Evans?

  One of them's gotta be about trans people, right?

• 20:13Speaker 05

  I mean, probably, but there's not a direct title. Oh, I'm gonna guess it's Protect Child's Innocence.

• 20:21Robert Evans?

  Protect Child's Innocence, yeah, that's probably the trans one. There's gotta be one on the border. Protect us from, I, stop, uh, white genocide. I don't know what the fuck she'd title that.

• 20:34Speaker 00

  I tripped AOC in the lunchroom and I'd do it again. That's, that would be called no green deal. There we go. Okay.

• 20:42Robert Evans?

  No green deal. There you go. Not bad. Yeah.

• 20:44Speaker 05

  Anyways, the fir- the first section's called blue jeans and big dreams.

• 20:50Robert Evans?

  My state. How about, yeah. Wow. Blue jeans and big dreams. Okay.

• 20:53Speaker 00

  Which kinda Lana Del Rey coded.

• 20:55Speaker 05

  I, I know. I thought.

• 20:56Robert Evans?

  A lot of, a lot of the right is these days. A lot of like the lady, right? Yeah. Including Lana, Lana Del Rey was always pretty problematic, Jamie. That was what made her music fun.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  You don't gotta tell me. So a fan of hers threw something at my head.

• 21:11Speaker 05

  Anyways, let's get started here. Uh, it starts with call me, no, uh, everyone has their favorite pair of blue jeans. We have our.

• 21:20Robert Evans?

  No, I don't. I don't own a single pair of blue jeans.

• 21:23Speaker 05

  You haven't worn, you haven't, you haven't worn hard pants in like, fuck, fuck if I know.

• 21:29Robert Evans?

  That's not true. I got, I got hard pants made with my suit that I wore.

• 21:33Speaker 05

  That is true. That is true.

• 21:34Robert Evans?

  A couple of days. I wore that a couple of days at the DNC in the RNC.

• 21:37Speaker 00

  Sorry, could someone define hard pants for me for, just really quick?

• 21:41Robert Evans?

  Anything that needs a belt to stay up.

• 21:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Hard pants. I just hope you know that you two are the only people that have ever said that.

• 21:49Speaker 05

  We've had a lot of conversations about this because it's actually one of Robert's like, I.

• 21:54Robert Evans?

  I wear exclusively pajamas.

• 21:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's like, yeah.

• 21:57Speaker 05

  I'm wearing pajamas right now. You know how, you know how I always say I work hard so my dog has a better life? Robert works hard so he doesn't have to wear hard pants.

• 22:05Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah. Okay.

• 22:06Robert Evans?

  It was a decision I made when some guy shot at me one time where I was like, I almost died in uncomfortable pants. I'm never doing that again.

• 22:13Speaker 05

  Anyways, everyone has their favorite pair of blue jeans. I'm not gonna get through most of this book, but.

• 22:19Speaker 00

  I'm with her so far.

• 22:20Speaker 05

  We have our preferred brands and go-to styles. You can wear them to school, a date night, a game, a party, a dance, or to go to work. Whether you're changing the oil under a lifted truck on the job site or going to the office.

• 22:32Robert Evans?

  Shit. You've never changed your own oil, Marjorie. Don't even lie. Like.

• 22:37Speaker 05

  She's really painting a picture of her as like a Julia Roberts character.

• 22:42Robert Evans?

  It's such a, it's such a 20 years ago populism where it's like, I'll wear my blue jeans to a fancy dinner. You know, because fanciest dinners, the steakhouse in my town.

• 22:51Speaker 05

  You can even wear them to church.

• 22:52Robert Evans?

  Like, man, the richest people in the world dress like shit now. It's fine. Like, nobody, nobody's a dick about this anymore.

• 23:00Speaker 05

  Some of us slide them on while standing up, bouncing from one foot to the other. Others wiggle into them, lying on the bed, sucking in to zip up the zipper and button the waist. This is lasting so long.

• 23:13Robert Evans?

  I don't know why we're talking about this for so long.

• 23:15Speaker 05

  That is the first paragraph.

• 23:17Robert Evans?

  Selling me on jeans, to be honest. Neither of those ways sound comfortable.

• 23:21Speaker 05

  But listen.

• 23:21Robert Evans?

  What's easy to put on is a fucking pair of pajama pants.

• 23:24Speaker 05

  Robert, yeah, it seems like these pants are a little too hard, perhaps.

• 23:26Robert Evans?

  Mine are made out of wool.

• 23:28Speaker 05

  Blue jeans are a staple for all Americans at all times. That's a direct quote.

• 23:35Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 23:36Robert Evans?

  Especially because, I don't know. It's, that's not the number one kind of pant that I see on like a job site. It's certainly not the number one kind of pant, like if you're, you know, working out in a farm. There's some places where blue jeans are the right thing to wear, but like, it sucks ass if it's super wet to be wearing blue jeans while doing agricultural work. They're not great for it.

• 23:56Speaker 05

  Does she have anything to say about like the cut? Yeah, of course. Like, oh, okay. Oh, good. It keeps going. I was hoping that this section continued to go. And no matter who you are, that favorite pair of jeans fits just right and feels so good. Once you have them on, you are unstoppable. That's what it feels like to be an American, unstoppable. Or at least, that's what it, or at least not what it used to feel like to be American.

• 24:23Robert Evans?

  Darling, you know what makes you feel unstoppable? Is taking your friend's Adderall, uh, along with a cocktail of the finest pills the gas station provides truckers. And then getting in a car and driving for 37 and a half hours. That makes you feel like a god. By like the 24 hour point, if you just keep taking the pills, man, you, you see through time. You realize that it's just an illusion, that like road trips, distance, all of this is fake. And you can literally just pick a point in space and time and pull yourself through it. That's how I do road trips.

• 24:58Speaker 05

  About blue jeans because decades ago when big corporations took their manufacturing overseas. Those iconic blue jeans we wear began arriving from nearly every country but America. With their cheaper labor.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  What a smooth transition.

• 25:13Robert Evans?

  Yeah, whose fault is that, Marjorie?

• 25:15Speaker 00

  What a smooth transition.

• 25:18Robert Evans?

  The people who own blue jeans factories and offshored them, who do they send their money to? Which political party?

• 25:25Speaker 05

  With their cheaper labor.

• 25:25Speaker 00

  I can't get over the fact that she said they look comfortable and she just described how hard they were to put on.

• 25:31Robert Evans?

  Yeah, they suck.

• 25:31Speaker 00

  I'm stuck there. They suck, but that's what it feels like to be an American. It fucking sucks.

• 25:37Speaker 05

  With their cheaper labor costs, India, Mexico, China, and others could make them for so much less. This meant corporations selling American labels discovered they could make more money buying denim manufactured overseas. This is boring. Uh, she's just talking about manufacturing.

• 25:54Robert Evans?

  She's talking about jeans a lot. I think this is, I mean, the good news is nobody who likes her reads is going to read. Like, this book is not, and none of these are generally made to be read.

• 26:04Speaker 00

  Right, they're made to be on a table.

• 26:06Robert Evans?

  Yeah, and you sell it and you get like, part of how like, you get bribed as a politician like her is you come out with your book that this vanity press then gets a bunch of different right-wing organizations and think tanks to buy a shitload of copies of. And, you know, no one needs to read it for it to get on the bestseller list and you to make money, right? Like, that's, it's part of like, how these people get paid.

• 26:26Speaker 05

  Pick a number between, uh, two and seventeen.

• 26:31Speaker 00

  Fourteen.

• 26:32Robert Evans?

  Eleven.

• 26:34Speaker 05

  Well, I'm, I'm, I'll start with fourteen and then I'll go back to eleven. I was just having you pick chapter numbers.

• 26:40Robert Evans?

  Oh, I should have guessed that.

• 26:42Speaker 05

  Oh, but thirteen is so funny. Okay, we'll come back to that.

• 26:46Speaker 00

  We won't know.

• 26:47Speaker 05

  No, fourteen is impeachment now.

• 26:53Speaker 05

  Wow. Impeachment is a tool the founding fathers gave us to remove someone in government. This is like Wikipedia about like-

• 27:00Speaker 00

  The beginning is, yeah, chat GPT about impeachment.

• 27:03Robert Evans?

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:05Speaker 05

  Um, it's, she's talking about how she tried, she's, wants to impeach Joe Biden. Biden is aiding and abetting the Mex- the Mexican criminal cartel drug runners. Imagine the uproar if 300 people died daily in plane crashes. We'd ground every airplane in America until we solve the problem. And along our southern border, the crisis is allowed to continue because of the left's liberal ideology.

• 27:29Robert Evans?

  Did she say 300,000 people are dying every day?

• 27:32Speaker 05

  300.

• 27:33Robert Evans?

  Oh, 300. Okay. Okay. Well, I mean, here's the thing, Marjorie, the reason why 300 people don't die every day in plane crashes is because the airline industry is incredibly heavily regulated. Uh, and has been regulated for decades with this kind of obsessive focus on stopping people from dying in crashes. And if the-

• 27:53Speaker 05

  Not so for-

• 27:54Robert Evans?

  If the drug, if the illegal drug supply was instead a legal and regulated drug supply with extremely high standards for what could get through and high standards for who and when it was sold and all this kind of stuff, then probably a lot less people would die. For one thing, if you're buying your drugs from a government store that has strict rules about like what and how they can sell, you know you're not getting fucking any fentanyl in your shit, right?

• 28:18Speaker 05

  Drive, drive through any big city-

• 28:20Robert Evans?

  There's a bunch of ways to fix this.

• 28:21Speaker 05

  Especially the blue ones. Look at the sickening results of people hooked on fentanyl-laced drugs. In addition to the deaths, the drug addicts hooked on these potent criminals look like zombies. I see them around whenever I go to New York, Washington DC, Los Angeles, or any other Democrat-run city. Thousands a day suffer the consequences of illegal drugs that flow over the border. Still, the media typically doesn't say a word because they share Biden's political views.

• 28:50Speaker 00

  You're so boring.

• 28:51Robert Evans?

  Yeah.

• 28:52Speaker 00

  I can't, I'm still, I, again, I'm just like, she keeps getting me stuck early in the, in the chapter where I just am like, why did she compare the, like, airlines to pharmaceuticals? Is there a Sully of drug dealers? Like, could we find him? I don't, that's, and the fact that there's only, you know, people who do drugs in democratic cities, just simply.

• 29:18Robert Evans?

  No, I mean, it's, it's, it's, but part of it's like the wind shit got where, right? Like, one of the reasons why we're having such an issue with fentanyl right now in Oregon is that fentanyl, like, got here later than it got to a lot of the rest of the country. And, like, the, the, the fucking actual way in which the opiate epidemic spread had an impact on, like, how and when fentanyl hit different places. Like, these are, I mean, the idea that, like, the epidemic of deaths due to the illegal use of opioids is a liberal city phenomenon is for one thing, kind of cutting all of Appalachia out of it, which, like, boy, that's supposed to be something J.D.

• 30:03Robert Evans?

  Vance knows something about, but.

• 30:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:05Robert Evans?

  I love that he's, I love that he's blaming his mom's drug addiction on fucking fentanyl being trafficked in, when it's like, your mom was stealing pills. Like, as a nurse, right? Like, she wasn't getting them from someone who smuggled them across the border.

• 30:18Speaker 00

  So true.

• 30:20Robert Evans?

  Anyway.

• 30:21Speaker 00

  Back to chapter 11, which is titled, "Right Versus Wrong." Right versus wrong. For the first time in a long time with Donald J. Trump, we had a man running for office that stood for what we believed in, who spoke like a regular person, questionable, and who championed America-first policies, policies that the Republican Party had not stood for in years. This is the kind of leadership we need if we're going to fight the climate alarmists trying to use fear as a way of making money and taking over our country. She's incredible at bringing an issue into, like, an intro paragraph without, like, it making any sense. It really does feel like it's just like a randomized, she's got just two wheels

• 31:01Speaker 00

  that she spins, and she's like, okay, jeans, man, you, like, Mexico, airlines, fentanyl, like, it's just completely Mad Libs.

• 31:15Speaker 05

  Let me task you.

• 31:16Robert Evans?

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:17Speaker 05

  This section's called "A Leg or a Handout", in the same Right vs. Wrong chapter. "Let me task you." Task you, not ask you. Uh, "Which option does more for America? Government handouts are putting money back into our economy to fuel growth, produce more tax revenue, and employ more, and employ more especially economically vulnerable people." Hard choice, right? I dunno, I'd take a handout.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  God, okay.

• 31:44Speaker 05

  Right about now, I feel like I should be given a handout for having to read this book.

• 31:47Robert Evans?

  Yeah, I mean, you were handed the book, so...

• 31:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. And, and as I was handed the book, my phone was taken out of my hand. Still very unchill.

• 31:56Robert Evans?

  Yeah, that is unchill. You should've just started hitting.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. You know, I wanted us to get into that Heritage Foundation party, so I was like trying to not get...

• 32:04Robert Evans?

  That's right, you're right.

• 32:05Speaker 05

  Because the booth was right across, and so, yeah. Because all they saw was a woman, a white woman with blonde hair and pigtails, and they were like, "You're one of us." And then, "Let me bring as many people as I could" to their cursed party, which is...

• 32:19Speaker 05

  Wow. It's weaponizing for good.

• 32:21Robert Evans?

  Every night since the RNC, I've, uh, I've drank my kratom in a Heritage Foundation cup, of which I have six.

• 32:29Speaker 05

  Six?

• 32:30Robert Evans?

  Uh-huh. Oh, I stole a lot. Gary has a couple, too. Like, I took a lot of those fucking things.

• 32:36Speaker 05

  Oh, when you were at my house, I didn't show you my RNC haul. I stole a lot of things.

• 32:41Speaker 00

  No, yeah, why wasn't that just like out? I dunno why that wasn't just out, and maybe even in the window.

• 32:47Robert Evans?

  People, people might mistake her meaning.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, no, I, uh, I would've loved to seen that out. I would've felt very safe. I'm looking at the MTG, uh, Goodreads page right now, and it's pretty...

• 33:00Speaker 05

  Is it fun?

• 33:01Speaker 00

  It's brutal. It's brutal, I mean, yeah, uh, Goodreads, not a fan of hers, um, for sure.

• 33:08Speaker 05

  Are there any, are there any nice reviews?

• 33:11Speaker 00

  There are fi- I can read some five-star reviews.

• 33:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, read one and I'll, and I'll respond doing my M, M, M, M, Marjorie Taylor Greene imitation that I got good at after the RNC.

• 33:20Speaker 00

  Okay. Here we go. MTG is one of the few America First patriots in Congress. If we had more Republicans like MTG, we could finally rid this country of these disgusting communists currently destroying it. If you are easily triggered, this book probably isn't for you. You should probably curl up in a safe space and read Liz Cheney's garbage book. But if you want to read about what a real patriot is doing and what you can do to help take back this country, then pick this book up and learn something. Eric.

• 33:53Robert Evans?

  Man, look, okay.

• 33:54Speaker 05

  I just want to say to Eric, I just want to say to Eric, "Thank you. Thank you, Eric. Thank you."

• 34:03Robert Evans?

  So, obviously, I'm not going to read Liz Cheney's fuck. I didn't even know she had a goddamn book. But Marjorie, I gotta say, it sounds kind of desperate that you're like comparing yourself to her to pump your book up. Like, shoot, I can't believe I'm saying this to you, but like, be more ambitious, you know? Like, shoot a little bit higher than fucking Liz Cheney.

• 34:24Speaker 05

  Okay, in the chapter titled "The Mouthpiece of the Democrat Party," there's a subsection called "Bright Spots," and it's a good one. "I don't want to make it seem like everyone in the media is terrible. While Fox News overall hasn't been a positive experience for me for the most part, I've enjoyed going on Tucker Carlson, who had me on Fox Nation and Tucker Carlson Tonight. While Fox has not wanted to do much with me, which I've never understood, Tucker and a few others have cared enough to get their information on me straight. Unfortunately, even though Tucker Carlson was number one, not just on Fox News, but out of everyone, Fox News fired him. We all know Tucker will be back probably by the time this book is out."

• 35:07Speaker 05

  What a weird, what a weird, she's just like, "Hey, by the way, I want to fuck Tucker Carlson."

• 35:13Speaker 00

  Look, he's an ally. He's an ally.

• 35:17Robert Evans?

  You could, you could find a more desperate way to write a book, but you would have to work hard. And you know who also works hard, Sophie, Jamie?

• 35:24Speaker 05

  Is it our sponsors? And I just want to say-

• 35:26Robert Evans?

  It's our sponsors.

• 35:27Speaker 05

  I just want to say-

• 35:28Robert Evans?

  They work hard every day to fuck Tucker Carlson. That's their only goal. So, help them out, you know?

• 35:34Speaker 00

  How hard could it be?

• 35:35Robert Evans?

  Help everybody out. Yeah, really.

• 35:37Speaker 05

  And to our sponsors, "Thank you."

• 35:40Robert Evans?

  That's what Tucker, that's what Tucker's gonna be saying.

• 35:45Speaker 00

  Oh, God.

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• 37:56Robert Evans?

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• 38:05Speaker 05

  I feel like Tucker Carlson comes scabs.

• 38:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:09Robert Evans?

  Dry scabs. We've talked about this.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  Dry scabs.

• 38:12Robert Evans?

  Dry scabs.

• 38:13Speaker 00

  Like a deck of cards being shuffled.

• 38:15Robert Evans?

  They, they, they make the sound, Jamie, if you've ever, uh, if you've ever put like a couple of coins in a, a plastic cup and then shaken them around, that's the sound that his come scabs because they're, they're hard and they're heavy. There's a lot of copper in them.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  I'm thinking, oh, I was thinking nickels. Like, okay. Yeah, it would hurt if one of his come scabs hit your head. Like it could really.

• 38:38Robert Evans?

  Like especially if he was doing it at like the top of the Empire State Building, those could, those could hit people on the ground with terminal velocity. Yeah.

• 38:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, that would be brutal. I mean, look.

• 38:47Robert Evans?

  This is good. The subreddit's been clamoring for come scabs talk since we, since Cody and I last talked about the come of different elected leaders.

• 38:55Speaker 00

  That's why I'm here.

• 38:57Robert Evans?

  Thank you, Jamie.

• 38:58Speaker 00

  I have, I have a one star, uh, Goodreads review of this book, which is just misleading title, absolutely no mention of Magic the Gathering, which is true.

• 39:11Robert Evans?

  That's not bad. That's not bad. That's good. That's good.

• 39:14Speaker 05

  Okay. I think I know why, I think I know why Whoopi Goldberg was on the back. I found, I found it.

• 39:19Robert Evans?

  Oh, they've, they've hated her for a while.

• 39:21Speaker 05

  The women on The View, of course, attacked me in their typical nasty fashion, almost weekly. I find it funny that people come up to me and say the most hateful things are usually white women, maybe 10 years older than I am, typically still wearing a mask and sometimes towing a neatly dressed husband behind them.

• 39:41Speaker 00

  Now, why are you bringing a neatly dressed husband into this?

• 39:46Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 39:48Speaker 00

  She's like, unlike my husband, who looks like shit all the time, to make a point.

• 39:53Speaker 05

  She goes, they call me horrible names and I'll ask, always ask them, you watch The View, right? Sure enough, they pretty much all do.

• 40:01Speaker 00

  Well, we all have to go to the dentist at some point. So at some point, you're gonna end up watching The View.

• 40:07Speaker 05

  She takes, she makes it a point, I feel like she's like doing PR for herself here, where she's like, please have me on your show. She's like, podcasts and radio shows have been better. And I've been on Real America's Voice, Charlie Kirk, Alex Jones, Donald Trump Jr., OANN, Newsmax, and others. But I would appear on more news shows as well. And maybe one day, I will.

• 40:29Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, she's pitching herself to be on podcasts in the book?

• 40:33Speaker 05

  In the book.

• 40:34Robert Evans?

  Wow.

• 40:35Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 40:35Robert Evans?

  Wow, that, again, that's desperate. I thought things were going better for her than that, because like,

• 40:39Speaker 00

  No, no, Robert, let's co-write a book and get on Armchair Expert.

• 40:43Robert Evans?

  No. If I ever, if I write another book, Jamie, the, the, the only thing in the afterward is going to be, please do not invite me on a podcast.

• 40:55Speaker 00

  I think at some point, you're just like, absolutely not. No, I wanna, I wanna co-publish a pamphlet and be like, Dax, listen.

• 41:01Robert Evans?

  So you've been podcasted.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  All right, she has,

• 41:06Speaker 00

  Good lord.

• 41:06Speaker 05

  She has an entire chapter about, called January 6.

• 41:11Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 41:12Robert Evans?

  Great.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  She's mostly just talking about, like, her being elected. It's not interesting. "The House chamber was in complete and utter disarray. At one point, the crowd had begun banging on the door loudly, trying to push the door open. Finally, the military and police showed up, decked out in full equipment and armed with rifles. Boy, were we glad to see them. We're very grateful to have help to get to a safe location." Is she not so, okay, okay. Hmm. She's like, oh, she literally downplays what happened. And then it's like, by the, and then we were saved. Everything's fine.

• 41:46Speaker 00

  Right. She glazes over everything and she's like, okay, what can I do? Compliment the cops. That's like, that's her one, yeah, that's her, her one sort of line of defense.

• 41:55Speaker 05

  "I later learned that the Speaker of the House at the time, Nancy Pelosi, had failed to secure the Capitol by not bringing in the National Guard in the weeks leading up to January 6, 2021. Even worse, she had her daughter, a filmmaker, there to capture the day's events. What a great coincidence. They just happened to be filming a documentary."

• 42:12Speaker 05

  Like, that's, that's like, not what happened, but okay.

• 42:17Robert Evans?

  Yeah.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:18Speaker 05

  Uh, sure enough, only, only a few people bridged the Capitol while most walked, walked in through open doors, making one of the biggest mistakes of their lives. She calls it a mistake.

• 42:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, but because they got in trouble, not because they were doing the wrong thing. They probably shook her hand.

• 42:39Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 42:40Speaker 00

  How long is that chapter? I was like, that, how, like?

• 42:44Speaker 05

  This, this.

• 42:44Robert Evans?

  I'm surprised if any of them are more than about 500 words, right?

• 42:47Speaker 05

  No, the chapters are really short. The chapters are really short. The largest chapter is about the no greed new deal and about COVID bullshit. Um, okay. She ends, she ends this chapter saying, "This will not happen if I can prevent it. The events of January 16th have been mischaracterized by the Democrats and their mouth feasts in the media. A circus made of the proceedings and these people cruelly treated. It must stop. It will stop for, for we won't rest until these people get equal justice under the law. They will not be forgotten. I will never forget." She just like changed her stance by the end of this chapter. She was like, "Oh, it was a terrible day, but then we were saved from these people. Yes, but help these people, these good people."

• 43:28Robert Evans?

  I, I, I don't think, I don't think she read her own book.

• 43:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Maybe they just had two options of like, choose this or this, and they just left both in.

• 43:38Speaker 05

  Her section about COVID is really long and I frankly don't care.

• 43:43Robert Evans?

  Well, I, I'm kind of curious. Is it real? Uh, or is it? Made by China? I'm guessing it's made by China.

• 43:50Speaker 00

  Honestly, I'm mainly can, uh, interested in what, uh, like misplaced metaphor she opens the chapter with.

• 43:57Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, let me see.

• 43:59Speaker 00

  COVID is like a box of chocolates.

• 44:02Speaker 05

  I understand the immense heartbreak and devastation of the COVID pandemic on multiple levels. No one escaped the pandemic without a few scars. Most people lost loved, loved ones and friends or know someone who did. Many who died were older adults with underlying conditions or people with risk factors like obesity, but a few were younger, healthy people.

• 44:23Speaker 05

  She's like, she's like, "Sorry you guys died, uh, but you were obese or old."

• 44:29Speaker 00

  Or young. You can't be old or young.

• 44:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, like, oh, it's gross.

• 44:37Speaker 00

  I mean, luckily, no one has ever read this book.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  It's so, this chapter's so long for no reason.

• 44:44Robert Evans?

  Yeah, I mean, there's a reason for it, but I'm sure it's because the ghostwriter is personally angry about it.

• 44:52Speaker 00

  I've always wanted to ghostwrite a book. I think it would be fun.

• 44:55Robert Evans?

  It's like ghostwriting the whip.

• 44:57Speaker 05

  She's talking about Fauci here. I followed Dr. Fauci's advice. He gave privately in his personal email, not his public hypocritical advice. "I didn't wear a mask. None of my kids wore masks." Oh, I always forget she's procreated.

• 45:14Robert Evans?

  Yeah, unfortunately.

• 45:16Speaker 05

  Most people I know didn't wear a mask unless it was forced in public or to fly in an airplane. We knew masks didn't work. Were filthy, forced you to breathe in your carbon dioxide, and decrease the amount of oxygen in your bloodstream. Many of us felt wearing a mask was like wearing a muzzle. She has so many things sourced, uh, sourced as in the section to check in her endnotes.

• 45:39Robert Evans?

  She's just sourcing that people don't like to have things on their faces?

• 45:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, I just want to check. I just want to check in her end-

• 45:46Speaker 00

  Pictures from Mad Max, like they're-

• 45:48Speaker 05

  I'm checking her endnotes to see what, which, which hyperlink she's referring to here. Uh, one of which is Newsweek, uh, with an article titled "Fauci Says Mask's Not Really Effective." Um, and the next one is from thehealthyamerican.org/masksdon'twork. I'm sure thehealthyamerican.org is a very unhinged website.

• 46:13Robert Evans?

  Yeah.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's the bleach.

• 46:16Robert Evans?

  What's that title, Sophie?

• 46:17Speaker 00

  The HealthyAmerican.org/who gives a shit?

• 46:22Robert Evans?

  I'm gonna, I'm checking to see if it can give me any advice on what kind of bleach I need to be drinking, though.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, like, I was always curious, like, can you just, like, suck on one of the pens? Or will that not be entirely effective?

• 46:35Robert Evans?

  Yeah, you know, I don't know, so Jamie, I, you know, I was raised by a mix of, like, hippies and libertarians, so I've just been 50/50 in bleach and apple cider vinegar.

• 46:44Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 46:45Robert Evans?

  Yeah.

• 46:45Speaker 00

  Well, if one doesn't work, I'm on the HealthyAmerican.com, and it just says this domain is... It's dot org. It's dot org.

• 46:52Robert Evans?

  Dot org. Yeah, I tried dot org, but it's, it is not working for me.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  I'm on hugedomains.com. This domain is for sale for $6,100.

• 47:02Robert Evans?

  Not, straight up not loading.

• 47:04Speaker 00

  TheHealthyAmerican.org/...

• 47:07Robert Evans?

  I'm looking!

• 47:08Speaker 00

  Masks-dash-don't-dash-work. Mask slash don't? Slash work? No, no, no, no apostrophe.

• 47:18Robert Evans?

  Uh huh.

• 47:19Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 47:20Robert Evans?

  No, no, it tries to take me to a landing page that is nothing.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  I would imagine, how many do you think, yeah, now I'm on fucking GoDaddy. There, uh...

• 47:30Robert Evans?

  Don't do that, don't be on GoDaddy.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  So many of these are...

• 47:33Robert Evans?

  I'll check, I'll check the Wayback Machine.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:37Robert Evans?

  We're pulling out all the stops, the Internet Archive's down right now, because it got attacked by, I think it's Russians pretending to be pro-Palestine activists, but it's hard to say why. Well, because the justification of the guy in the, claiming to be the hacker in his, like, telegram was like, "Well, America owns this." It's like, Ameri... No, not, not in, like, a way that implicates the military-industrial complex in the Internet Archive. That is not an accurate statement.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's really fucked my month up.

• 48:09Robert Evans?

  I think it's just a, I think it's, it's, uh...

• 48:12Speaker 00

  Just a fake website.

• 48:14Robert Evans?

  No, no, no, the Internet Archive is real. But yeah, I cannot find this thing on the Internet Archive.

• 48:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:18Robert Evans?

  On the Wayback Machine. So I don't know what the fuck's going on with this.

• 48:21Speaker 05

  I would be really curious if, because I was really surprised when I was writing my book, how, like, if you want your book fact-checked, you have to pay someone out of your own money to do it, like, they're not gonna do it.

• 48:33Robert Evans?

  Fact-checking does not exist.

• 48:34Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, I pause. I just found out Liam Payne from One Direction just died. What? He fell down in a ho- uh, from a third floor of a hotel in Buenos Aires? What? This has got, we've, we've really derailed from what's happening.

• 48:52Robert Evans?

  Let's just bring today to a close.

• 48:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, we have to go figure out what happened.

• 48:57Robert Evans?

  There's a problem going on where I am, too.

• 48:58Speaker 05

  Liam Payne, um, don't read this book, don't buy this book, obviously, it's bad.

• 49:05Robert Evans?

  Uh, I don't think it's, we'll be revisiting this one, but you all got 45 minutes or so of entertainment. And what more can you really hope for? Is there more to life? Not as far as we here, whose jobs are reliant upon being able to entertain you in a 45-minute podcast.

• 49:22Speaker 05

  And per the end of this book, Marjorie Taylor Greene makes clear yet again that she cannot be trusted. Liz Cheney.

• 49:28Robert Evans?

  Uh, yeah, really, really attacking the core demo of people who think Liz Cheney, uh, is a writer? Uh, I don't know. I don't know why she keeps doing this. I was unaware that Liz had written a book.

• 49:42Speaker 05

  This is really just, yeah, this is how, the last 45 minutes is how I learned any of these books ever existed.

• 49:48Robert Evans?

  Yeah, I, I, very few things have been worse for, like, the written word than the idea that, like, every single politician in public life has to have a book. And they're increasingly, like, coalescing with, like, the grindset influencer business management, sort of like guru books. Like, there are whole people who, who read, uh, because they have to, like, performatively, like, a book every week or something. But every book they read is either, like, the 45-minute Body or fucking Marjorie Taylor Greene's book, uh, or Peter Thiel's Management Advice or some shit.

• 50:23Speaker 05

  How do I get the 45-minute Body?

• 50:26Robert Evans?

  Well, you take the, you take the four-hour Body, Jamie.

• 50:29Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 50:30Robert Evans?

  And you just fucking compact that shit, right? You get a really good editor. You cut that word count down by seventy-five percent and you're good to go.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  Take out all the jeans metaphors and you're down to a forty-five minute.

• 50:46Speaker 00

  Good lord. Well, it sounds worse than a YouTuber's memoir. Um, and that's really saying something.

• 50:53Robert Evans?

  Mm-hmm. Yep. Speaking of worse than a YouTuber's memoir, your book is a not. It's good.

• 51:00Speaker 00

  No.

• 51:01Robert Evans?

  You have a book. That was a bad way to plug it, but you.

• 51:05Speaker 00

  I'm neither, I'm, I'm not a YouTuber and it's not a memoir. Uh, it's about, uh, hot dogs. It's called Raw Dog. It is out in hardcover now. It'll be out in paperback next year. Uh, and listen to Sixteenth Minute on Cool Zone Media for crying out loud. Uh, Sophie and Robert and I have been working on it for the last, oh, uh, six months. Year time a flat circle where we talk to the internet's main characters of the day and see how they're doing. Um, it varies.

• 51:38Robert Evans?

  Yay. All right.

• 51:40Speaker 00

  This got very dark, very fast.

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