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Hold on to your popcorn and your Thanos rings, it’s MARVEL TIME! You’ve met the actors behind the iconic movies, seen the impressive CGI and directing, but have you ever thought “who wrote this movie?” Well today your questions are answered as we sit down with 4 of the writers behind Marvel’s greatest hits. Who are the heroes and villains of the writers room? What are the unique challenges and triumphs of working on a Marvel movie? All this and more get answered this week on the pod.
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2:57 Speaker 05 Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists. This week on the show, it's another writer's room, but this time, they're in capes. It's the Marvel Writers Room.
3:06 Speaker 06 Marvel is the largest film franchise in the history of the multiverse. Little bit of an Easter egg there. An Easter egg is a phrase that Marvel people also love. So Easter egg is kind of an Easter egg.
3:21 Speaker 07 With so much on the line and so much money being spent, these writers have to plug in and work overtime to make the superheroes you love come to life in a fun, friendly, action-packed way.
3:35 Speaker 05 So zip up that CGI suit, turn the lights way down, and let's listen in.
3:58 Speaker 06 You've seen The Avengers on television and you've seen it on movies. And now it's The Avengers of the Marvel Writers. We have been assembled. We are here together. And I am so excited to be here with the best Marvel writing team I've ever known.
4:16 Speaker 05 Writers assemble.
4:18 Speaker 06 Writers assemble. Excelsior.
4:21 Speaker 07 Got to say, if we don't do this well, it kind of feels like Doomsday, huh?
4:25 Speaker 06 It does feel a bit like Doomsday coming to Marvel Cinemas 2026.
4:32 Speaker 07 Guys, we are so excited to sit down. You know, we all have a love for the mo— yeah, kick through the door.
4:39 Speaker 05 Yeah.
4:41 Speaker 07 Riley, what are you doing?
4:43 Speaker 06 We're kicking through the portal.
4:47 Speaker 07 Kick through the portal and enter the universe. That is what we're gonna do today. Talk about all things Marvel. We love working on these Marvel movies.
4:56 Speaker 06 We love Marvel. It's never been better, and we're having a blast.
5:02 Speaker 05 It's so true. We have never had more ideas. We have never had more to do. There is so much untapped resources available, and we are gonna scrape all the way to the bottom of the barrel with the top shelf stuff.
5:20 Speaker 06 We're gonna get to it.
5:21 Speaker 05 We are obsessed.
5:22 Speaker 06 And stick around for the post-credit scene, which we have to do.
5:25 Speaker 05 We have to do— we might. We might even— I can't wait. I can't wait for that, man.
5:30 Speaker 07 I actually can't wait.
5:31 Speaker 05 I actually can't wait, man. I can't wait to maybe even talk about the space we go to when we have no ideas. The No Idea Man. The biggest villain of all.
5:42 Speaker 07 The No Idea Man, biggest villain of all.
5:44 Speaker 06 He's an internal villain that only if you work at Marvel, you know about.
5:47 Speaker 05 Yeah. I didn't mean like a real villain.
5:49 Speaker 07 Stan Lee used to talk about the No Idea Man behind the scenes all the time, and he has now infiltrated a little bit of the Marvel's writers.
5:57 Speaker 05 When did the No Ideas Man first appear to you in your mind? Because it took me six months of working here for him to appear. And I wanna be clear, this is not a real superhero or villain. This lives within the confines of our writership.
6:10 Speaker 06 And in that way, in that room, in that building, on the Disney lot on Alameda Avenue in Burbank, it's very real.
6:17 Speaker 05 Whoa, don't dox us.
6:19 Speaker 06 Knocking down the portal and showing you the insides of the No Idea Man. I met the No Idea Man when I was working on Fantastic Four: The First Steps.
6:34 Speaker 06 We were 70 pages in, and the No Idea Man reared his ugly horned head.
6:39 Speaker 07 Horned head.
6:39 Speaker 06 Does he have horns for you guys?
6:40 Speaker 05 I believe the horn is a pencil.
6:43 Speaker 06 And I believe the horn holds a ruby that can turn into a stone.
6:48 Speaker 05 The No Ideas Man appeared to me not with horns, but with sharp, sharp fangs. Fangs that threaten to rip up any script I wrote. But, the way to defeat the No Ideas Man is by offering him a piece of your past. That piece of your past is turning the key into new and incredible ideas.
7:08 Speaker 06 But it comes at a cost. If you offer something to the No Idea Man from your past, that is no longer an idea that you can have to make as an indie feature, but an idea that now belongs to a Marvel film.
7:19 Speaker 07 They legally own your indie feature now. That small, cute indie feature about your sick mother getting better, and you by her side reconnecting and rekindling with your father along the way. It is now a Marvel TV show.
7:33 Speaker 06 It doesn't belong to A24 anymore.
7:35 Speaker 07 That belongs to Loki.
7:36 Speaker 06 It belongs to me, the No Ideas Man. Sorry, now Loki's mom is on life support.
7:43 Speaker 07 Loki's mom is on life support, and Loki is reconnecting with his father.
7:49 Speaker 05 You wanna sacrifice an idea about the trauma you had when you had braces? Ha ha, now Loki has braces.
7:58 Speaker 07 Guess what? Wolverine is in 8th grade and going through it.
8:02 Speaker 06 That's right.
8:03 Speaker 05 You wanna write about your dad leaving? Now Thanos's dad is gone a million times. And watch out, don't even talk about it in therapy, because a representative from Disney will show up and tell you when it's too close.
8:16 Speaker 07 You guys have gotten the knock on the therapy door?
8:18 Speaker 05 I got the knock on the therapy door. How dare we introduce the No Ideas Man before ourselves?
8:24 Speaker 06 I know.
8:24 Speaker 05 And that shows the way we live in fear.
8:26 Speaker 06 Well, that's what happens to the No Ideas Man. He introduces himself, and all of a sudden, Groot was kicked out of his polycule. Anyways.
8:33 Speaker 05 We must say who we are before the ideas. We must say who we are.
8:38 Speaker 07 Just really quick before we talk about, I love your favorite.
8:43 Speaker 07 The new, uh, what is that movie called?
8:45 Speaker 06 Oh, Groot and Portland.
8:47 Speaker 07 Groot and Portland, yes. The Groot spinoff, where Groot's important gets kicked out of his polycule.
8:52 Speaker 05 And his catchphrase is, "I am Groot, and this is Groot, and this is Groot, and this is Groot."
9:02 Speaker 07 Okay, let's introduce ourselves.
9:03 Speaker 05 Okay, let's introduce ourselves.
9:06 Speaker 07 Hi, I'm Dennis Faraday and I am a Marvel writer. I've been working here for nay, 12 years, for a long time and I've just-
9:19 Speaker 06 12 years, 12 years, that means, what year is it? 2026, 12 years ago was 2020-
9:26 Speaker 07 So not 2020.
9:27 Speaker 06 2020, 2014?
9:28 Speaker 07 2014 is when I jumped in.
9:30 Speaker 06 Past Avengers 1, right past Avengers 1.
9:33 Speaker 07 Yes, so I jumped in right after Phase 1.
9:36 Speaker 06 Yeah.
9:37 Speaker 07 I jumped into Phase 2.
9:38 Speaker 05 Kinda right when the steak was served.
9:40 Speaker 07 Yes, right when the steak was served. And I said, "I'll have another couple of steaks, please." So I've been helping writing a lot of the scripts, jumping in and doing what I can. I do a lot of the comedy, actually, for a lot of these movies.
9:54 Speaker 06 Let's talk about that comedy because it's so unique.
9:57 Speaker 07 Well, here's the thing I always strive for, is if there's ever steaks in the movie, I want to rip it up with a little joke.
10:04 Speaker 05 I will tell you, Dennis, you do such a good job at writing the moments where some of our heroes are trying so hard to hold up maybe three buildings and they go, "If only I could hold this up like I do my gym members."
10:17 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah.
10:18 Speaker 05 Like, it is so-
10:20 Speaker 07 And then another stronger superhero come and go, "Um, that looks pretty easy, actually." Like, a lot of the awkward comedy is-
10:26 Speaker 05 I love, whenever your calling card, I know when you've written on a movie, is when the phrase "Uh, little help here?" shows up. Oh my god.
10:36 Speaker 07 They call me Dennis Little Help Here.
10:38 Speaker 06 They call me Dennis Little Help Here.
10:40 Speaker 05 I love when you write girl heroes because you always go, "I could blow that up, but let me try to talk to a boy."
10:46 Speaker 07 Yes, and I also write girl heroes specifically, not women. We refer to them in the Marvel videos as girl.
10:53 Speaker 05 They're younger!
10:56 Speaker 07 Yes, so if there's ever steaks, like if somebody's watching another superhero maybe die, or there's a big moment where they're recurring their past, I always try to add another character in the scene that maybe goes, "Um, awkward, I guess we should go."
11:10 Speaker 06 Yeah, I mean, you're so brilliant at that. And it's so exciting because we-
11:15 Speaker 07 Thank you.
11:16 Speaker 06 -are so grateful for you because you built this system, right? That when you can't make it because you've gotten so into that hobby.
11:23 Speaker 07 Oh yeah, I do Warhammer 40k.
11:26 Speaker 06 Right.
11:27 Speaker 07 I paint my figurines.
11:29 Speaker 06 All day! You! I'm those for you. I have yet to play the game. Now that we've kind of- I just paint the figures! We lost you to Warhammer, but you did give us a really nifty wheel. So, sometimes you put, we call it the Faraday wheel. And we spin it and we can just use them and you put all of them in there. It's only about 12, which is-
11:47 Speaker 07 Awkward. Hey waiter, um, remember when we had dinner and it passed the spoons? A lot of jokes.
11:52 Speaker 05 Well, my favorite one on the wheel is, "Is anything gonna happen?"
11:55 Speaker 06 Yes!
11:56 Speaker 07 "Is anything gonna happen?" Boom, is what it says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so that's a little bit of it being-
12:00 Speaker 06 I also liked, um, I'm sorry, did you want me to scream?
12:06 Speaker 05 I don't like that one that much.
12:08 Speaker 07 Well, if you land it- If it lands at the wrong time of the script, that's a hard moment.
12:13 Speaker 06 It's weird.
12:14 Speaker 05 It's dark.
12:15 Speaker 07 It works about 40% of the time, but when it works-
12:18 Speaker 06 It's weird.
12:18 Speaker 05 I also appreciate how much time we spend on your jokes. We, we will grind the entire movie to, uh, halt, to hear the joke and then just sit in it.
12:28 Speaker 06 Yeah.
12:29 Speaker 05 And then when they do a little bit of improv squinting, glaring back and forth, ah!
12:34 Speaker 07 Oh, we need to talk about the improv that we allow. Anyway, let's keep on-
12:37 Speaker 05 Oh, I love the improv we allow. And that's what I love our security guards for. The improv guards?
12:43 Speaker 06 We improv security?
12:44 Speaker 05 The improv security guards. We train them before they go off. Alright, well, what's up? I'm Riley Virgin. I am, I've been in this room for a little bit now. One of the younger ones, um, went to AFI, top of my class, which just meant I was the tallest.
13:01 Speaker 06 You won Pitch Fest at AFI. I was judging Pitch Fest. You have to do the Pitch Fest pitch right now.
13:09 Speaker 07 Do the pitch. Do the pitch about your sad, morose indie that you wanted to make.
13:16 Speaker 05 Fish don't talk to each other.
13:18 Speaker 06 Yeah. And I said, "This person's gotta work at Marv."
13:24 Speaker 05 Fish don't talk to each other. And now you can't use that. Now you can't use that.
13:29 Speaker 07 He still owns that.
13:30 Speaker 05 And I didn't give that to the idea, the idea man. I gave that to Pitch Fest Monster.
13:35 Speaker 06 Pitch Fest Monster, a very unique in its property.
13:42 Speaker 05 Anyway, um, I'm so excited to be here. I love, I honestly, I'm just learning from some of the greats because truly, when you came up to me at Pitch Fest, I was like, holy fucking moly.
13:53 Speaker 06 Well, you were probably just impressed by my Avengers hoodie and all my Avengers pins and my Avengers hat.
13:59 Speaker 05 Yes, cuz honestly, I, I am one of those nerds for Marvel where every rap gift, I find it on Reddit and then I make my own version on Printful, um, because I've always wanted to be a part of the crew. So the fact that I've been here, I've been working with you guys, has been such an honor. It's also so cool to just not have any writer's assistant credits and just come on in. And I, and I thank Pitch Fest for that. I thank you guys for that. I think AFI for that.
14:23 Speaker 06 We gotta talk about that Marvel rap gift, by the way. That internal's hourglass. I use it every day.
14:28 Speaker 05 Oh, and I've been needing a good hourglass.
14:30 Speaker 06 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:31 Speaker 05 I'm obsessed with my Infinity War gun.
14:34 Speaker 06 Yes.
14:35 Speaker 05 I put it outside. Anyway.
14:37 Speaker 07 The Infinity War gun that they gave us is crazy.
14:40 Speaker 06 Shang-Chi buswheeled.
14:42 Speaker 07 Oh, yes. The She-Hulk pen.
14:45 Speaker 06 The She-Hulk pen.
14:47 Speaker 07 I love my She-Hulk pen. When you click it and it gets bigger.
14:53 Speaker 05 And it gets mad. Anyway.
14:56 Speaker 07 And then it turns into a highlighter when it's really mad.
14:58 Speaker 06 I like that.
14:59 Speaker 07 I love that.
15:01 Speaker 05 I love that. We don't have enough pen highlighter hybrids. Anyway, I'm just...
15:04 Speaker 07 The Iron Man batteries.
15:06 Speaker 06 I love the Iron Man batteries.
15:08 Speaker 05 Those are artisan batteries.
15:09 Speaker 06 They are artisan batteries you can wear on your chest.
15:12 Speaker 07 And I'm kind of a battery snob, but these batteries really work. Yes.
15:18 Speaker 06 I heard you're making your own batteries, too.
15:19 Speaker 07 Oh, yes.
15:22 Speaker 05 Okay. Yes. Well, who are ya, batteries?
15:25 Speaker 07 Who am I? Well, who aren't I? I'll, I'll tell you who I'm not. The president. Look, I'm just kidding around. I am DeeDee Deadpool. Um, and I am... Deadpool. I... It's DeeDee Deadpool.
15:39 Speaker 06 DeeDee Deadpool.
15:40 Speaker 07 It's DeeDee Deadpool. I am DeeDee Deadpool and yes, I am nepo. I am nepo. I am nepo. But I'm trying to stay humble. Um, Deadpool, of course, was based on a real man. That was my father. Um, and he was the most sarcastic guy around. And he was awesome. Uh, I miss him. Um, but I got in here, um, around, um, 2015.
16:04 Speaker 05 And I have been just having such a blast and I have been really digging through and you know, I've been helping punch up these movies and, and, and writing on all these movies, but then I have been tasked with finding obscure Marvel, uh, uh, uh, books and, uh, looking for sort of towards the future and exploring, um, new Marvel heroes that maybe are, are so obscure that even those comic book guys don't know about.
16:31 Speaker 07 Oh, I love this. You are diving into the 34, 35, 36 page count of these original Marvel.
16:40 Speaker 06 And Dee, I love it because you come in and everyone tells you that you're making it up every day. You're being gaslit left and right. You have to show us. You have to show us.
16:49 Speaker 05 I'm like, I brought the proof. I brought the proof. Calamari Man is real.
16:53 Speaker 07 Yes. Oh my gosh, I loved Calamari. When you presented Calamari Man, we said, I think, I believe that is a waiter. In, in, in just a scene, a panel of a Marvel thing.
17:04 Speaker 05 But who is it, right?
17:05 Speaker 07 Calamari Man.
17:07 Speaker 05 It's Calamari Man and his powers are to bring calamari as requested to different tables. Only when summoned and only during certain hours of the day. So that's a waiter though, no?
17:21 Speaker 06 Should we talk though about, because we have, I mean, I know we're going to go over the slate for phase eight.
17:27 Speaker 05 We'll go over the slate.
17:27 Speaker 06 Calamari Man, I'm gonna say it. It's not like, we're not at the E23 Expo, but I'm gonna say it. Calamari Man is coming to Disney Plus 2031. And he will be played by Finn Wolfhard.
17:43 Speaker 05 Yes. It is an 18-episode order coming straight to your screens.
17:48 Speaker 07 Imagine the bear meets She-Hulk.
17:52 Speaker 05 Meets Finn Wolfhard.
17:54 Speaker 07 It is everything that Stranger Things isn't. Exactly.
17:58 Speaker 05 I honestly, I, what I love about your work, Mrs. Deadpool, is that you- Oh, please, call me Dee Dee Deadpool. What I love about your work, Mrs. Dee Dee Deadpool, is that, um, you are really good at writing in those moments in a script where that character, it's not his movie, but it will be. Kind of the tagline a little bit, where you do like a, this kid's about to grow up and we'll see it next phase. Yes, because it's all about seeding. It's about seeding. If you want someone to be in theaters Squid Boy, you have to seed him in Calamari Man. Yes. You can't just be running around.
18:34 Speaker 07 As we all know, Calamari Man's assistant is Squid Boy.
18:37 Speaker 06 Yes, yes, yes. And I want to shout out, that was a featured extra that we had in the Marvels.
18:42 Speaker 07 Yes.
18:42 Speaker 06 And now that person is the lead of the show.
18:44 Speaker 05 Have you ever heard of someone getting Taft Heart lead and straight to WME? This kid is brilliant.
18:52 Speaker 07 He is brilliant as a featured extra. We had never heard his voice before, and it is strange.
18:57 Speaker 06 Thank God he's good, because we had to use him regardless because of what Diddy Deadpool did.
19:02 Speaker 05 Thank God he's good.
19:04 Speaker 07 We're always saying that, Diddy Deadpool, what'd you do?
19:08 Speaker 05 Diddy Deadpool, what did you do? Diddy Deadpool, did I do that?
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21:29 Speaker 05 That's exactly what I'm saying in the office.
21:31 Speaker 06 And I also wanted to say, I know because we're eagle-eyed, eagle-eyed Easter egg listeners.
21:36 Speaker 05 We're like hawk-eyed.
21:37 Speaker 06 Mrs. Diddy Deadpool.
21:38 Speaker 05 Come on.
21:39 Speaker 06 Good.
21:40 Speaker 05 That's good.
21:41 Speaker 06 That's good. We're knocking the door in. We're knocking open the door. Mrs. Diddy Deadpool, we said, that's right, she's married.
21:49 Speaker 05 I am married.
21:51 Speaker 06 And here's the thing, and I love this about her, she met someone who's also named Deadpool that is not related to her.
21:58 Speaker 07 Are you sure?
21:59 Speaker 06 Yeah.
22:00 Speaker 07 Are you sure they're not related to?
22:01 Speaker 05 We are not related because at the family, the Deadpool family reunion in 2018, he wasn't there. So we are not related.
22:10 Speaker 07 And how big was that family reunion?
22:12 Speaker 05 Like 25, 26 people. So he was not there. So it's good and we never even have to look into it because he wasn't there. It's undeniable proof. I am, but it is so fun. I am married to, it's like a Taylor Lautner, Taylor Swift situation. Remember when they were dating? And they were both named Taylor? But now, but Taylor Lautner, did you know now he's married to a Taylor? He's married to a Taylor? Really, Taylor Lautner in real life is married to a Taylor?
22:37 Speaker 06 So he has a thing with Taylor. He has a thing with his name.
22:40 Speaker 05 So he has a thing with Taylor, which is fun. What if somebody was captivated by a name?
22:46 Speaker 06 We could totally use Taylor Lautner in a movie.
22:48 Speaker 05 We could. Maybe. For notary man? The man who's the notary of Cincinnati, but only allowed to do so between the hours of nine and five, Monday to Friday?
22:58 Speaker 07 So this really sounds like She-Hulk. This actually really is now getting very close to She-Hulk.
23:03 Speaker 06 I mean, imagine it. The person that makes sure all the superheroes are married? What's his life like?
23:09 Speaker 05 What's his life like? Hey, what's your life like? Exactly.
23:15 Speaker 06 You guys know I hate talking about myself.
23:17 Speaker 05 Come on.
23:19 Speaker 06 Hi, everyone. My name is Ralph Zandi, and I am the head of mythology at Marvel. I am in charge of making sure that everything lines up, everything connects, everything is fluid.
23:31 Speaker 07 We should say the stickler of Marvel.
23:34 Speaker 06 They call me the sickler. It's funny, I have a real rags to riches story. Or should we say, uh, uh, dollar bills to infinity stone story?
23:44 Speaker 05 Kapow! Kapow, put that on the wheel.
23:47 Speaker 06 Okay.
23:48 Speaker 07 Kapow?
23:48 Speaker 06 Yeah.
23:49 Speaker 07 Dollar signs?
23:50 Speaker 05 Both!
23:52 Speaker 07 I will add those two.
23:54 Speaker 06 So, I started on the very first Marvel movie of all time, uh, for the, for this, uh, cycle. Um, uh, Iron Man. I was a P A on Iron Man. I was second second. I was in charge of the talent. I had to sit outside of the trailers.
24:09 Speaker 05 A second's second.
24:11 Speaker 06 Second second A D. And, and, uh, which is not a P A, but we might as well have been. I'm calling it. I'm joking around. They didn't like me very much. I, I, I didn't have a great time because I read the comics and I felt like I was the only one who did. And so I was always saying, well, you know, in the comics, they wouldn't say this. You know, in the comics, Jarvis kind of sounds like this. And they kept saying, you're annoying, you're annoying, you're annoying. Turns out, I was right.
24:35 Speaker 05 Turns out, you weren't annoying, you were right.
24:38 Speaker 06 And it turns out, I was the first person to realize that we needed to get these things right. Cause our fans get a little pissed off.
24:47 Speaker 07 Oh, yes. I will say Marvel did an amazing thing. In the early aughts, the studios were releasing superhero movies without paying any attention to the original I P.
24:59 Speaker 06 That's correct.
25:00 Speaker 07 Marvel was the first company that came in, grabbed the IP and said, you know what? Let's give the fans what they want.
25:05 Speaker 06 Exactly. So now people don't have to go to the theaters to see a movie that might be good. They might not be looking to enjoy something. They might just be coming to see if it's correct.
25:14 Speaker 05 Yes, it's like people who like playing board games and they like reading the rules more than the game.
25:20 Speaker 07 They're very into the rules rather than the game.
25:22 Speaker 05 And that's why you are important. Because I think everyone should at home, that one kid that's at your board game night who's annoying, who's like, actually, that's not how you play. He's annoying, but he's right.
25:33 Speaker 06 That's correct. And that also is why with my little bit of extra money, I have opened Zandi's Game House, H A U S, in Atwater Village.
25:41 Speaker 05 Oh, because you're German, right?
25:42 Speaker 06 Yes, I'm German. Zandi is German. The original Zandi. And I opened the game house, but I don't allow games. I only allow rules.
25:51 Speaker 05 But you know what? I'll tell you what sucks is, and I want to, I want to use our public platform to say it.
25:55 Speaker 06 Yeah.
25:55 Speaker 05 Sometimes when we don't specifically honor a comic and its, and its details, they stop tipping at that game house and they vandalize it.
26:04 Speaker 07 They vandalize.
26:04 Speaker 05 You guys stop.
26:06 Speaker 06 Hey, guys, do not vandalize my private business because you didn't like what happened in The Winter Soldier and the Falcon. Okay?
26:13 Speaker 05 You guys know too much. You shouldn't know who is on payroll at Marvel. You shouldn't know too much. But I also, I want to say, I want to thank you for, you know, of course, your knowledge saved all of our lives. Three years ago,
26:26 Speaker 06 Yes.
26:27 Speaker 05 when there was an angry mob of Marvel fans bursting into the door.
26:33 Speaker 06 Yeah.
26:33 Speaker 05 They were ready to rip our heads off our throats.
26:37 Speaker 07 January 6th, nobody's talking about February 3rd.
26:40 Speaker 05 Nobody's talking about February 3rd. Is the January 6th for nerds.
26:46 Speaker 07 For Marvel.
26:46 Speaker 05 It was when the nerds stormed the Marvel gates because we You were wrong about Hawkeye's shoes.
26:53 Speaker 07 Yeah.
26:53 Speaker 05 And you were the only one able to talk them down. And you said, wait, no, there's a really obscure version from 1946 where Hawkeye is wearing vans.
27:04 Speaker 06 Comic 472 in the Infinity Series. Hawkeye goes into a shoe store. You don't see his feet for five panels. He walks out wearing different shoes.
27:15 Speaker 05 Imagine him saying that in front of a huge angry mob with us behind, being so scared.
27:19 Speaker 07 I was literally shaking spit in the wheel.
27:20 Speaker 06 You have to understand, there were 500 slingshots in there. There were people with spitballs. There were people about to kill us.
27:28 Speaker 05 I saw a fidget spinner that had knives on it.
27:30 Speaker 06 Yeah. Do you remember that scene?
27:32 Speaker 07 Imagine, holding a fidget spinner with knives. You're mostly doing damage to yourself.
27:37 Speaker 05 And he didn't even care. He was just standing there, not blinking, going, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.
27:42 Speaker 07 Wrong shoes.
27:43 Speaker 06 That guy was freaky.
27:45 Speaker 05 They were in the front lines, the front fucking lines.
27:48 Speaker 06 Well, because guess what? That's literally me. I see myself in them when you guys come in and you guys tell me, hey, I actually think that, uh, Wanda, uh, should have, uh, a brooch on her neck. And I go, no, she wouldn't wear that because it would constrict her powers.
28:03 Speaker 05 And we go, he's annoying, but he's right.
28:07 Speaker 06 But I, but I learned to channel, and that's what I'm telling all you guys, my children, my little, little fawns, okay? I love you guys out there. I'm one of you. Find something else to take this and put it into, right? And so that's why I opened my game house, you know? And I'm very involved on the tax side, and that takes a lot of time.
28:25 Speaker 07 You love the taxes of your game house.
28:27 Speaker 05 You love taxes.
28:28 Speaker 06 It's so nice to look in and figure out, you know, if, you know, what the Articles of Incorporation include and what's going on and, and how I can find dividends and how I can grow and change.
28:39 Speaker 07 Yes.
28:39 Speaker 06 And taxing is, it's so intricate and it's fun because it helps me take the stress off.
28:45 Speaker 07 Yeah, well, I, I've got a question and I thought it'd be really interesting.
28:48 Speaker 06 Ask it!
28:51 Speaker 06 Oh, Scott!
28:53 Speaker 05 Come on, ask it, my man.
29:00 Speaker 06 Basket!
29:02 Speaker 07 Okay, I was thinking we could talk about maybe the structure of a classic Marvel movie. Going through it beat by beat, what are we trying to aim for?
29:12 Speaker 05 I love it.
29:13 Speaker 06 Are we talking about one of the original movies where we were establishing lore? Or kind of one of the later movies where we're just kind of making advertisements for future movies?
29:23 Speaker 07 I think both. Let's talk about if you're introducing the characters first movie versus the character seventh.
29:29 Speaker 05 Because we call those movies when we're introducing things, the gardens.
29:33 Speaker 07 The gardens.
29:33 Speaker 05 Because it's seeds. It's the gardens.
29:35 Speaker 07 And you're planting, you're planting.
29:37 Speaker 05 Versus the forest.
29:38 Speaker 07 Yes.
29:39 Speaker 05 It is sprouted. Yes. And now we are dealing with big trees. We reap and we sow.
29:45 Speaker 06 And then the third one, the farmer's market, where we're just trying to sell merch.
29:49 Speaker 05 Yeah. And my god. Hey, you're already here. You already bought everything. You might as well get some extra basil, right? And sometimes, sometimes things will go from forest to farmer's market.
30:05 Speaker 07 Yes.
30:05 Speaker 05 So fast that we're not even writing movies anymore.
30:08 Speaker 07 It's sad when you destroy a forest to create a farmer's market.
30:11 Speaker 05 Then we have another genre of movie that I like to call the farmer's market friend, which is about an obscure character in the farmer's market who barely made the cut for the farmer's market. And now we're putting him front and center in the town square.
30:26 Speaker 07 And of course, we also have the farmer's market's friends farmer's market.
30:29 Speaker 06 Yeah, yeah.
30:30 Speaker 07 Which is usually a show on Disney Plus.
30:31 Speaker 06 Exactly.
30:34 Speaker 06 And we have the Farmville, which is the mobile app. When do we have to make a mobile app?
30:40 Speaker 07 Marvel Rivals!
30:42 Speaker 06 You guys have to go to play Marvel Rivals right now.
30:44 Speaker 07 Please play it.
30:45 Speaker 06 Playing Marvel Rivals while you're watching this, take a shot, a picture using, if it's on your phone, you don't have, if you have another camera, grab it and take it from the back and then put your phone in it and your computer in it.
30:59 Speaker 05 Get that one more time, get that one more time. One more time, so they, one more time so they know.
31:03 Speaker 06 If you're watching this right now and you're also playing Marvel Rivals, take another camera, maybe your friend has one even. Take a camera and from the back, take a picture of your phone, because you can't use your own phone because you're playing Marvel Rivals.
31:18 Speaker 07 Because you can't screenshot.
31:20 Speaker 05 Wait, no, the social people had such a simple way of. Explaining this, what was it?
31:24 Speaker 06 Take a pick up playing Marvel Rivals?
31:26 Speaker 05 Take a pick up playing Marvel Rivals?
31:30 Speaker 05 They're supposed to be in it too. Oh, man, Lisa's gonna kill us.
31:33 Speaker 06 No, I, I, I like those social people, but I wish they would stick up for themselves. Cause every time I talk to them, they go, okay, whatever you think, and they run away. I just start speaking and they say, whatever you think. And I don't think they like me.
31:45 Speaker 07 Well, okay, let's talk about one thing that's going on right now.
31:49 Speaker 05 Well, well, we do have to go through the, the beats of this movie.
31:52 Speaker 06 Don't do the classic Marvel thing, which is bring something up and never come back.
31:57 Speaker 07 We always come back to it, actually. That's one thing about Marvel. We will come back to it.
32:02 Speaker 05 There is a master plan. And just because you haven't seen it yet, doesn't mean it will not appear in the future. We have a 46,000 phase plan. And that's what I love about our buildings. There's a, there is a thing we do. It's kind of like a, a lockbox, if you will, where when we have an idea that we put, that we put into a script and they don't know where it's going, they won't let us go home.
32:25 Speaker 06 No.
32:25 Speaker 07 Yeah.
32:25 Speaker 06 No.
32:26 Speaker 07 We have to tie it in.
32:27 Speaker 06 These fans, I'm talking to you guys, you gotta relax and know that we know where we're going with this.
32:32 Speaker 07 Yes.
32:33 Speaker 06 We know what we're doing.
32:34 Speaker 05 There's a plan.
32:34 Speaker 06 Don't question us. Y'all have been believing in God for thousands of years and you don't worry where he's at. We're like God.
32:41 Speaker 05 No one's worried about where God's at.
32:43 Speaker 07 Nobody is worried about where God is.
32:44 Speaker 05 Nobody's worried about where he is. Just think of us like God. Don't worry about it.
32:49 Speaker 06 Don't worry about us.
32:51 Speaker 05 And speaking of God, we have a divinely ordained story structure that we, uh, can't wait to go through. Almost felt like it came down from the universe and it was shaking like an asteroid. And then it hits in the face.
33:06 Speaker 07 Yes, exactly.
33:07 Speaker 05 Of course, there is lore to this. Stan Lee came across a pile of golden tablets in the back lot of the Burbank Mall. He.
33:17 Speaker 07 Now, what is this?
33:19 Speaker 05 It's the Joseph Smith Gargarator.
33:22 Speaker 06 Yes.
33:23 Speaker 07 Gargarator.
33:24 Speaker 06 The Joseph Smith Gargarator. We call those tablets the Joseph Smith Gargarator.
33:29 Speaker 05 And every story is divinely passed down from that. Now, we open with a normal accessible problem.
33:38 Speaker 06 Exactly.
33:38 Speaker 05 A problem one of you normies without powers might understand. Like high school, like dating girls.
33:44 Speaker 07 Running late to work.
33:45 Speaker 06 Being an overworked doctor.
33:48 Speaker 05 Single mom. That's where it all begins.
33:51 Speaker 06 Yes.
33:51 Speaker 05 That's where we get you.
33:52 Speaker 06 Some sort of flaw, but surprise, something happens to them that changes their life.
33:57 Speaker 05 And suddenly, we got you by the nipples.
33:59 Speaker 06 And then we spend a long time watching them adjust.
34:03 Speaker 07 Yes. It's a, oh, my gosh, people love a training scene. They are either training with a mentor or just training by themselves. That takes up primarily act two and act three and act four.
34:14 Speaker 05 Now, this is where your stuff really comes into play. We're gonna spend a lot of time on quips. Of course.
34:21 Speaker 07 Meanwhile, a villain is introduced and it's doing something nefarious. And by act three, the main character realizes they're the only person that can stop the villain. When, at the halfway mark, the villain kills somebody close to them.
34:35 Speaker 05 Yes. A little hint that we use is a normal day starts with the morning.
34:40 Speaker 07 And this is a hint.
34:40 Speaker 05 Goes into the afternoon. And just around the afternoon, when you're in the middle of your training montage, the sun goes down. That's when we bring in the villain, always at night. Yes, yes.
34:53 Speaker 07 Always at night.
34:54 Speaker 06 We always bring in the villain at night because nighttime is when bad people do bad stuff.
35:01 Speaker 05 So, most people have a three-act structure. We have a 24-act structure, each for a corresponding hour of the day.
35:09 Speaker 07 Yes.
35:09 Speaker 05 You experience your normal relatable problem at 6:00 a.m. in the morning. Every single person does that.
35:13 Speaker 06 Yeah.
35:14 Speaker 05 And then every single bad person does drugs at night.
35:17 Speaker 06 Yeah.
35:17 Speaker 07 Yes.
35:18 Speaker 06 And also, act 14, one of my favorite acts, and it's become a lot bigger since Disney Plus has some more involvements. Weird little funny thing shows up.
35:27 Speaker 07 Weird little funny thing that will get a spinoff.
35:29 Speaker 05 Weird little funny thing, not a minion, not a minion, something we thought of before.
35:37 Speaker 05 And has been in the works for decades. And we have it in the emails. And we have everything tracked. And you could look at the Dropbox where we have all of it.
35:47 Speaker 06 I've never even looked at a minion. I've never even.
35:49 Speaker 07 What even is that?
35:50 Speaker 06 I live in Studio City and have to take the 101. And when I even peek out of at Universal Studios with that big thing, I haven't even looked at it.
35:59 Speaker 05 I didn't even know what it was.
36:00 Speaker 06 I didn't even know what it was. I literally, I closed my eyes in that section of the 101.
36:05 Speaker 05 And that's why there's so many accidents there. So many people every day close their eyes on the app. Because they hate it. They don't know what it is, so they close their eyes. Why is the sun wearing overalls? For the last 10 years, I thought it was the Griffith Observatory. I thought that.
36:17 Speaker 06 Universal Studio, you're killing people on the highway.
36:20 Speaker 07 You're literally killing. So then we go into act 15 through 23, basically. And this is the moment where you're supposed to believe that the main character is maybe gonna die. But no, but implicitly you understand they can't because we've already like announced three other movies that they're in.
36:39 Speaker 05 Truly.
36:39 Speaker 07 But we really want to create a stake moment of that this person is really in trouble.
36:44 Speaker 06 Why did we lose them forever? And I do want to say rest in peace to a couple of the people we've lost. Black Widow.
36:49 Speaker 07 Black Widow.
36:49 Speaker 06 Gamora.
36:50 Speaker 07 Gamora.
36:51 Speaker 06 And that's about it.
36:52 Speaker 07 That's about it.
36:53 Speaker 06 That's all we've killed.
36:54 Speaker 05 And we.
36:55 Speaker 06 Groot, Groot once.
36:56 Speaker 07 Once. But then he was reborn.
36:59 Speaker 05 And Velvet.
37:00 Speaker 07 And Velvet, oh Velvet got shot a thousand times. It was a big choice. We were really trying to raise the stakes when Velvet got shot a thousand times.
37:08 Speaker 06 We killed Velvet, that funny little rabbit in The Punisher. We shot him a thousand times.
37:14 Speaker 05 Shot him a thousand.
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38:57 Speaker 07 Well, people always ask, like, you know, in the first phase, we've already had such a cataclysmic event, huge cataclysmic event, that how do you come back from this? Like, phase 2, when Thanos destroys the entire universe and kills literally everybody, how do you raise the stakes? I know. We realize the cutest thing, shooting it more and more and more.
39:20 Speaker 05 I want to ask you guys, I ask you guys this all the time, and it's similar to what you just said, which is, I was at AFI when you guys implemented the first time there was a multiverse, which I think changed content forever, where you can experience the high stakes of death and loss. But as a storyteller, you don't have to clean up the mess. You could just start back over.
39:43 Speaker 07 You can just find a one other person in the other universe that's the same and replace them. And we're not going to address how weird and crazy that is.
39:52 Speaker 06 No, and I will say, in the past few years, that has been a balm on our storytelling. It's been such a relief.
39:57 Speaker 07 We are done with it.
39:59 Speaker 05 Do you think it's a response?
40:00 Speaker 07 We're done.
40:01 Speaker 06 We're done.
40:02 Speaker 07 We're, we're done.
40:03 Speaker 05 We're done. Coming from the jokes guy that's pretty bold.
40:05 Speaker 07 The X-Men is joining. We're done.
40:08 Speaker 05 We're done.
40:08 Speaker 07 The multiverse is over. There's only one verse.
40:11 Speaker 06 Can we say that? That the X-Men are coming? Can we say that?
40:14 Speaker 07 Oh my god.
40:15 Speaker 05 Can we say that?
40:16 Speaker 06 Should we talk about the X-Men?
40:17 Speaker 05 Oh my god. If we talk about upcoming slate, I want to make sure all the doors are locked.
40:21 Speaker 07 Yes.
40:22 Speaker 06 Yeah.
40:22 Speaker 05 I want to make sure these cameras aren't live.
40:24 Speaker 07 Well, let's talk, really, before we talk about opening slate, just an intro to opening slate. Phase eight, we've started to really stretch.
40:31 Speaker 06 Yes.
40:31 Speaker 07 We're doing things with the Marvel. We want to be big action movies, but we also want a hint of 824.
40:38 Speaker 05 We want to do gay stuff.
40:39 Speaker 07 We want you to make you feel like you're watching a neon movie, you know?
40:42 Speaker 06 We want to do gay stuff.
40:43 Speaker 05 We want to do gay stuff.
40:45 Speaker 07 We want to do straight stuff. We want to just do stuff.
40:47 Speaker 05 We want to do gay stuff that we can replicate in a ride at Disneyland.
40:51 Speaker 07 Yes.
40:51 Speaker 05 So, that is the, the, the, the metric that we're pushing to, and that's the barrier that we're excited to run up against. That's what it is. 824 is gay stuff, and where we are are rides. And where do they meet?
41:03 Speaker 06 They've officially told us that our gay movie cannot be gayer than the Monsters Inc. Ride at Disneyland.
41:10 Speaker 05 And what does that mean, huh? What does that mean? All media can be placed on a spectrum by which the Monsters Inc. Ride is the metric of gayness.
41:20 Speaker 06 Disney's saying that's the gayest thing they've ever done.
41:25 Speaker 06 We don't know what that means, and I don't agree.
41:29 Speaker 05 But there's kind of a feeling. And sometimes I hear, there's a feeling.
41:33 Speaker 07 This is gay.
41:34 Speaker 05 This is, and you go, this is kinda gay. Madame Web, gayer than the Monsters Inc. Ride.
41:42 Speaker 07 Yes.
41:43 Speaker 06 Yes, it is.
41:44 Speaker 07 So we won't touch it.
41:45 Speaker 05 So we won't do it. So don't worry about it.
41:47 Speaker 06 So let's just say Madame Web is, is the bit of the forbidden fruit. It was so bad it's good, but they're telling us we're not allowed to try and be bad. But sometimes, if I'm being honest, we end up bad.
41:59 Speaker 07 Yes.
41:59 Speaker 06 So why don't we just try to be bad?
42:00 Speaker 05 So why not? Do you want to do that?
42:02 Speaker 06 I want to queen out a little bit. Let's be campy. Let's be fun.
42:06 Speaker 05 That's wild to me. Why would we ever do that? We're the Marvel Universe.
42:09 Speaker 07 Well, because it's phase eight, okay, Riley? It's phase eight. We need to stretch it, okay? People don't want to just go see Doctor Who save another planet. They want to see Doctor Who.
42:20 Speaker 07 Doctor Strange?
42:21 Speaker 06 No, no, no, no, no.
42:23 Speaker 05 No, Doctor Who. We have an announcement to make.
42:29 Speaker 06 Avengers Doomsday, part two. Who saves the day? Doctor Who.
42:34 Speaker 07 Part who?
42:35 Speaker 05 We got him, folks. We got him, folks.
42:38 Speaker 07 Avengers Doomsday, part who?
42:39 Speaker 05 Doctor Who has joined the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And the tagline is, who's in this now? Who's in this now?
42:47 Speaker 06 It's honestly feasible because Disney owns Doctor Who. And it, just like Star Wars is about to enter the Marvel Universe, so is Doctor Who.
42:57 Speaker 05 Soon the Marvel Universe will become so large that it will merge with the very universe itself. And there will only be one universe, the universe. We don't have to say Marvel anymore.
43:10 Speaker 06 It'll just be the U, not the MCU. It'll be the U.
43:14 Speaker 05 The U, we all live in. There will be the gay U, the normal U.
43:17 Speaker 06 The gay and the normal?
43:25 Speaker 05 The gay U and the normal U. Guys.
43:28 Speaker 06 You're going to love this universe. And the reason why I, the head of mythology, is okay with it is because guess what? If we make it broader, there's room for everything.
43:38 Speaker 07 Yes.
43:38 Speaker 06 So I used to be mad because we only had the comics. But now we're including National Geographic as part of the Marvel Universe.
43:45 Speaker 05 There are more things for you to be correct about. And even more now that in 2029, Ursula's Revenge is coming to Marvel.
43:54 Speaker 07 Yes, so exciting in Ursula's Revenge. We're taking Ursula, the famed Ariel character, and making her a villain.
44:02 Speaker 05 And we're giving her. Out of the sea and into the U. And we're giving her a daughter.
44:08 Speaker 06 Getting a daughter.
44:09 Speaker 05 My favorite is when you grab something out of Disney, you throw it into the U and you give it a kid. Give it a daughter. I love doing that.
44:16 Speaker 06 Yeah, I cannot wait for you to see Ursula and her daughter go toe to toe with Drax the Destroyer. It's gonna be so exciting for you.
44:28 Speaker 07 It's comedic.
44:29 Speaker 06 And exciting for me. And now I get to explore all this new mythology. I get to look up Ursula. I get to know what she's all about.
44:35 Speaker 05 And you know what's fun about Ursula? It's something that we haven't touched on where what about a hero getting intrigued by sound?
44:41 Speaker 07 Yes.
44:42 Speaker 06 What about a hero getting intrigued by sound?
44:44 Speaker 05 Not emotion, not color, it's sound.
44:47 Speaker 07 Yeah, exactly.
44:47 Speaker 05 All these other heroes are so visual. But a sound being an enemy?
44:52 Speaker 07 Yes.
44:52 Speaker 05 That's an anti villain AKA a hero we can work with. With a daughter. An opera singer, daughter.
44:59 Speaker 06 And you won't believe what happened when Ursula steals Jarvis's voice. Cause Jarvis is like, it's like Siri for Tony Hawk.
45:06 Speaker 07 Yes.
45:07 Speaker 06 Or Tony Stark. By the way, Tony Hawk.
45:10 Speaker 05 Enter the larval universe. Ladies and gentlemen.
45:15 Speaker 07 Tony Hawkeye is what the movie is coming.
45:17 Speaker 05 It's Tony Hawkeye.
45:18 Speaker 07 It's Tony Hawk teaches Hawkeye how to skateboard. Hawkeye teaches Tony how to get over pain of a death.
45:25 Speaker 05 And coming to Disneyland's Frontierland in 2032 is Tony Hawkeye, the ride. Where you can ride as either. We're ripping out Indiana Jones, ripping it.
45:37 Speaker 06 Ripping out and we're making it, we're doing it loudly. We're letting you come and watch us rip it away.
45:42 Speaker 05 Yes, because who's ripping it away? Ursula.
45:46 Speaker 07 And these are exciting movies, but we're also in our TV show. I mean, we're trying to create TV shows that are watchable and not always about the superhero. I mean, we have a movie, our TV show coming out now. It is a superhero in a world where people do not like superheroes anymore. Trying to become an actor and Ben Kingsley, this character from the Iron Man three movie, who is playing an actor, teaches him how to become a good actor.
46:11 Speaker 06 Yes.
46:11 Speaker 07 I mean, that is a true.
46:13 Speaker 06 It's a real show. It's called Wonder Man. We're so excited. Yaya Dua Lipa playing Wonder Man.
46:18 Speaker 05 It is called Wonder Man. That's crazy. That's wild. Cause honestly, I think at some point we hit it, we hit a wall when it was like, okay, what, can we change superheroes to not be good anymore?
46:28 Speaker 07 Yes. Can we, can we figure out how to make this superhero a small indie? Episode by episode, Atlanta vibe. I mean, we have squirrel girl getting over postpartum.
46:39 Speaker 06 Yes.
46:39 Speaker 07 I'm very excited about this.
46:41 Speaker 06 Beautiful.
46:41 Speaker 07 This TV show.
46:42 Speaker 05 This is really exciting.
46:44 Speaker 07 Squirrel Girl, of course, is squirrel girl. She is, you know, in control of squirrels. Um, and she unfortunately has a child and doesn't love it.
46:52 Speaker 06 Yes. Squirrel Girl, excitingly played by of course Millie Bobby Brown.
46:57 Speaker 05 My God, the things Millie is doing with squirrel girl.
47:00 Speaker 06 I mean, it's amazing.
47:01 Speaker 07 She is stretching squirrel girl to all ages.
47:05 Speaker 05 All postpartum heights.
47:06 Speaker 07 Yes, all postpartum.
47:07 Speaker 05 Postpartum heights. Yeah, I mean, I love what we're doing with that. What we get to do with TV that we don't get to do with movies is we get to stretch. It's like when you see a baker with taffy, just move in the taffy around. And you go, surely you shouldn't keep spinning that taffy. Speaking of, Croissant Woman is coming to Disney Plus in 2035, and we are so excited. Croissant Woman.
47:34 Speaker 06 You might remember her from The Avengers: Age of Ultron, when every was, everything was running away. When all the buildings were falling down and a woman ran across the screen with a croissant.
47:45 Speaker 05 And that woman has a story to tell because she has a daughter. She has a daughter. Her powers involve getting up earlier than anyone should be awake. Everyone's asleep. Everyone's asleep, but not her. She is using her powers to make yeast rise. And what happens when yeast rises?
48:07 Speaker 07 What?
48:08 Speaker 05 She gets a yeast infection. That's her flaw. Her personality flaw is that she has a yeast infection. It's her kryptonite.
48:18 Speaker 06 We're so excited. You don't know the actress again. She was a featured extra.
48:23 Speaker 05 But you will. You will. You're gonna have backpacks of her face come this 2042.
48:28 Speaker 06 The power of wake. Let's talk about our favorite superpowers, by the way.
48:32 Speaker 05 Oh, let's just riff them off.
48:33 Speaker 06 I mean, I love a superpower. I love a superpower.
48:36 Speaker 05 I love a superpower.
48:37 Speaker 07 Name the superpower and what we would put them in, and what movie or TV show we would put them in.
48:42 Speaker 06 This is a fun game.
48:43 Speaker 05 I love that. That's a good game. This is, this is fun. Um, go ahead.
48:46 Speaker 07 Okay, super speed, quicksaver, slows down or raises a kid like Raising Arizona.
48:51 Speaker 06 Oh, that's really fun.
48:52 Speaker 05 Oh, that's good. That's good.
48:55 Speaker 07 It's fun.
48:56 Speaker 06 The power to mimic voices, to take on other people's voice and sound like them. They end up doing voiceover.
49:04 Speaker 05 Wow. That's amazing. This is awesome.
49:09 Speaker 05 And the power, um, the power to be really stretchy, the power to be a really stretchy lady, and it has to be a lady. Stretchy, stretchy lady, and we put her in a fur- Ever twenty-one and have her try on every size they have. Oh, that's good.
49:22 Speaker 07 That's really good.
49:23 Speaker 06 Body positive.
49:24 Speaker 05 Yes.
49:25 Speaker 07 It's body positive.
49:27 Speaker 05 And we need that. The power of an IUD that makes a woman's fingers guns.
49:33 Speaker 06 Yes.
49:33 Speaker 05 Yes.
49:34 Speaker 06 And the superhero here is the IUD.
49:37 Speaker 07 Yeah, the power of an IUD that makes a woman's fingers guns. I love that power. It's so awesome.
49:43 Speaker 05 Saves the world.
49:45 Speaker 06 Yeah.
49:46 Speaker 07 Super strength meets Moby Dick.
49:51 Speaker 05 I love that.
49:52 Speaker 06 So they just pick up the wheel.
49:54 Speaker 05 Lift that wheel up.
49:56 Speaker 07 It's very short. It's a short movie they can find super easy.
50:04 Speaker 05 That was fun, wasn't it?
50:05 Speaker 07 Hopefully.
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50:55 Speaker 06 What about this? Somebody with the power to exactly know what time it is without looking at their watch.
51:02 Speaker 07 Yes.
51:03 Speaker 06 And they exist on a desert planet.
51:08 Speaker 07 Whoa.
51:08 Speaker 06 That doesn't have a regular sun, kind of a random sun.
51:11 Speaker 07 That's a random sun.
51:12 Speaker 05 Random sun. Random sun. Random sun. Random sun.
51:17 Speaker 07 Juicy.
51:17 Speaker 05 That's good. Random sun is.
51:19 Speaker 06 Juicy.
51:20 Speaker 05 Random.
51:21 Speaker 06 To never know when the sun is coming out. Yeah.
51:24 Speaker 07 It's crazy.
51:24 Speaker 06 How can you form a society? I got that from Minecraft.
51:29 Speaker 05 What about this? What about this?
51:32 Speaker 05 Twenty year old gets a canker sore. The next day, he doesn't feel good. That canker sore is a source of an ability to fly. He starts flying.
51:45 Speaker 07 You're giving us a lot with your powers. There's always a thing that's creating your powers, which I like.
51:50 Speaker 06 But wait a minute. The canker sore causes him to fly. So does he have to keep the canker sore?
51:55 Speaker 05 So now he wants canker sore so he can fly.
51:58 Speaker 06 So he starts kissing.
52:00 Speaker 05 He stops 9/11.
52:02 Speaker 06 What?
52:04 Speaker 06 I will say, because of a really, really great documentary from 20th Century Fox, Fahrenheit 9/11, Michael Moore and 9/11 are in the U. Universe. 9/11, welcome to the U.
52:20 Speaker 06 And by association, George H. W. Bush, welcome to the U.
52:26 Speaker 05 Oh, man. And by association, that whole kindergarten he was reading to that day. Welcome to the U.
52:34 Speaker 06 The Simpsons are now in the U.
52:36 Speaker 05 Welcome to the U. Um, um, uh, Einstein, we're dealing with that IP.
52:43 Speaker 06 Genius.
52:44 Speaker 05 Welcome to the U.
52:46 Speaker 06 The first genius. The first genius.
52:48 Speaker 05 The first ever genius, did it hurt?
52:50 Speaker 06 I cannot wait to show you guys the very, very cool television show we're coming up with, where Einstein meets Captain America and they walk around a little bit.
53:00 Speaker 07 It's called Brains and Bronze.
53:02 Speaker 06 That's correct.
53:02 Speaker 05 Directed by Richard Linklater.
53:04 Speaker 07 Did you guys ever see those? Directed by Richard Linklater.
53:07 Speaker 06 And he keeps trying to make it gay and we're okay with it. Woo! To the right of Monsters, Inc. Monsters Inc. Ride.
53:17 Speaker 06 He keeps going, hold on, I gotta go back and ride the ride to make sure. All right, this one's good.
53:21 Speaker 05 Because then when you're in the ride, you feel it.
53:23 Speaker 06 When you're in the ride, you know.
53:25 Speaker 05 Which direction you're leaning. But you can't write it down.
53:28 Speaker 07 Guys, should we just list off some of the upcoming movies and TV shows coming out?
53:31 Speaker 06 Well, I think what you're implying is, should we introduce Phase Eight of Marvel?
53:38 Speaker 05 It's Phase Eight of Marvel. Put your finger on top of your phone camera when watching this, because it is top secret. By clicking on this video, it is an NDA that you have signed. You have signed an NDA. Welcome to the NDA. Don't spread this, but listen, because we're about to unveil the U Phase Eight.
54:02 Speaker 07 You love Guardians of the Galaxy, but this time, things are getting turned up with Guardians of the McDonald's. That's right. The Guardians of the Galaxy have to take over McDonald's for four hours and make it work perfectly. Drax is going crazy.
54:18 Speaker 06 Doctor Strange has solved a lot of crazy problems across the multiverse, but he has solved one problem that he hasn't told anyone about. How to have kids without male-female sex. Doctor Strange in the IVF of madness.
54:41 Speaker 05 You love Hawkeye the bird, but what if he laid an egg that scrambled good? Welcome to Fry Cook Man, the man who makes scrambled eggs real good.
54:54 Speaker 07 Jeremy Renner will be dressed up as a bird this TV show, making scrambled eggs of his own eggs.
55:01 Speaker 05 You loved the Hulk. What if, couple of years after the movie of the Hulk, he runs into a girl who's up for adoption? Yes, the Hulk gets a daughter. It's Rebel Wilson, the purple monster.
55:18 Speaker 07 You love the Thor movies, but this time, we're shaking it up. Down Under, Thor is Crocodile Dundee.
55:28 Speaker 07 In this movie, Thor goes down to Australia and pretends to be an actor.
55:32 Speaker 06 Chris Hemsworth told us he would no longer fake his accent. So now we have to make it work.
55:39 Speaker 05 You loved Spider-Man, but what if he sits down on the iconic pink couch and goes on, "Caller daddy, it's Spider Daddy Alex Cooper's unwell. It's an evil iconic main monster."
55:55 Speaker 07 You love Mr. Incredible from the movie The Incredibles. But what if he ate a hot wing so hot, he couldn't breathe anymore? It's Hot Ones X The Incredibles, the collab of the century.
56:11 Speaker 06 You love Ant-Man, but have you ever thought, what happened if Ant-Man walked into a door? That door was in Tortuga in the Caribbean and he walked onto a ship? Uh oh, turns out Paul Rudd is meeting Jack Sparrow's friend. It's Ant-Man in the Caribbean.
56:34 Speaker 05 That makes me, that makes me think of, if you loved all of that, what if all of them? Croissant lady, Jack Sparrow's friend. Alex Cooper and Spider-Man get together and become one big team.
56:47 Speaker 07 It's The Avengers Friends. The Avengers Friends.
56:53 Speaker 06 And we're introducing a 55-episode arc. We haven't figured out what the Thing is yet, but it's gonna be a thing they all want.
57:03 Speaker 07 Just like adding all these characters, you've heard of Magneto, but Magneto has a daughter. Magnita, colon, middle school, colon, worst years of my metal ass life.
57:15 Speaker 06 And who's her enemy? It's her twin brother.
57:20 Speaker 07 The Diary of the Wimpy Kid. Welcome to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
57:28 Speaker 06 Well, we cannot wait for you guys to check those out.
57:31 Speaker 07 Do any of those shows sound like things you guys are wanting to watch?
57:35 Speaker 06 And I know what you guys are thinking.
57:36 Speaker 07 Let us know, please.
57:37 Speaker 06 So you're like, what is the Thing, right? And let's get into it. It's gonna be a thing that they all want. Other people want the Thing.
57:43 Speaker 07 Yes.
57:44 Speaker 06 And the Thing is, the Thing, it can go anywhere.
57:47 Speaker 07 The Thing drives them.
57:48 Speaker 05 To act.
57:49 Speaker 06 It looks like it.
57:50 Speaker 07 And a lot of people want the thing.
57:52 Speaker 06 And they all want it.
57:53 Speaker 05 So, so for all of this, all of that was just, they're all looking for the thing. And the thing is anything, and the thing can go anywhere.
58:01 Speaker 07 And the thing gives you some, and the thing gives you something.
58:03 Speaker 06 Yeah.
58:04 Speaker 05 The thing gives you something, the thing is sought after, and the thing is, it has unintended consequences.
58:09 Speaker 06 You don't understand, if you have the thing, other people can't have the thing. And you can do with the thing what the thing does, that other people can't.
58:15 Speaker 05 Or when someone bad wants the thing. And here's the thing, here's the thing, depending on where your family is, depending on where your family is, you can get different chapters of the thing.
58:20 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, the thing kinda looks like this, like, well, well.
58:24 Speaker 06 Or it could be kind of like, sham, sham, sham.
58:26 Speaker 05 Or it could be kinda like, jing, jing, jing, jing. Or it could be kinda like, order number five, chai latte.
58:31 Speaker 07 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:32 Speaker 05 And the thing is actually a metaphor for something we all know about.
58:36 Speaker 07 Yeah, like, the thing, like, like, something like, we all know about, and also, a lot of things we all know about.
58:40 Speaker 06 And also, and the thing, the thing looks like a different thing to a lot of people, until we figure out what it needs to look like, and then it'll look like that for like, nine movies.
58:48 Speaker 05 Exactly. So for a couple of movies, we'll be deciding what the thing is, so in that time, it'll be trauma, love, and memories. Oh my god, do you see him?
58:57 Speaker 05 It's the No Ideas Man. He stepped out of the curtain. Get out, get out, you're not welcome here.
59:03 Speaker 06 Ideas, quick.
59:05 Speaker 05 I have trauma from my past. One time I was left on the school bus. No, guys, the Ideas Man is making me think I need to say brands.
59:13 Speaker 06 Leave us alone, I thought I had ideas, I thought those were things, I thought these were things.
59:18 Speaker 05 Things! They are things, we ask you, please.
59:21 Speaker 06 Quick, somebody give him a really, really good indie movie. You got left on the school bus, is that something?
59:26 Speaker 05 I got left on the school bus, and I had a chronic illness during that time.
59:31 Speaker 06 Oh, gosh. I just got a text.
59:35 Speaker 07 Oh my gosh.
59:36 Speaker 06 It looks like, the Hulk now has a chronic illness.
59:39 Speaker 07 Oh no.
59:40 Speaker 06 You're safe.
59:40 Speaker 05 Who texted you that? Oh, thank god.
59:42 Speaker 07 Sick Hulk.
59:43 Speaker 05 Sick Hulk.
59:44 Speaker 06 Sick Hulk.
59:45 Speaker 05 Silk, silk.
59:46 Speaker 06 Mark Ruffalo texted that to me.
59:47 Speaker 05 Mark Ruffalo is Sick Hulk, coming to theaters in 2045. And just like that, the bastard's gone. And just like that, the TV show from HBO. Welcome to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This has been Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists, answering the question. Now that's why they call it showbiz. Goodnight Hollywood, live from the beautiful Dynasty Typewriter.
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