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0:00 Speaker 00 Welcome to another exciting edition of Are You Garbage? The show where you find out if your favorite comedians are classy individuals or absolute trash. Now, here are your hosts, Kevin Ryan and H. Foley.
0:19 H. Foley? Hey, everybody out there, and welcome back to everybody's favorite podcast. This is Are You Garbage?
0:24 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
0:25 H. Foley? It's that little show we sit down with your favorite comedians and we find out the group to be classy.
0:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
0:29 H. Foley? Or just a big old piece of trash.
0:31 Speaker 02 Trash, trash, trash.
0:32 H. Foley? I'm your host, H. Foley, coming at you on a beautiful day. We're out back here with Toady's and the new addition. She's upstairs. She's got squirrels in her room.
0:39 Speaker 02 Okay, you caught me with a sip, but that was not bad. I'll give it to you.
0:42 H. Foley? My co-host is coming at you from right next to me. He is the CEO of Are You Garbage. He's an international businessman and my best pal in the whole wide world, and I love him. Give it up for KJ, Kevin James Ryan, everybody.
0:52 Speaker 02 What up, gang? Shout out to you as always. Thanks for tuning in. Please make sure you rate, view, subscribe on iTunes. Full video available on YouTube. Also, full video available over there on, uh, frickin', Spotify.
1:01 H. Foley? Spotify, on the charts over there.
1:02 Speaker 02 Climbing the charts, not the top of the charts, but the nice part of the charts. Where we belong.
1:06 H. Foley? Not falling behind, not showing off.
1:08 Speaker 02 Obviously, the greatest website of all time, www.patreon.com. And we're climbing it. We're top 10 charts over there. Check that out. Boys are cooking.
1:15 H. Foley? Take that one to the bank.
1:16 Speaker 02 That's a chart I'm proud of.
1:18 H. Foley? And gang, we couldn't be more excited to have our incredibly, and I mean incredibly, special guest here with us today for the first time. He is hot off the release of his brand new LP, Darling Blue. He is Grammy nominated, world-renowned legend in the making. Give it up for Mr. Marcus King, everybody. Yeah. There he is.
1:34 Speaker 02 And cool as the day is long.
1:36 H. Foley? Dude, you sound like a musician. The way you talk, it's crazy.
1:41 Speaker 02 He's got it, man.
1:42 H. Foley? You do. I'm happy to be here.
1:44 Speaker 02 Even that was cool.
1:47 H. Foley? Sure good to be here with you, fellers.
1:50 Speaker 02 I look over, he's tuning a guitar. You're like, what the fuck?
1:53 H. Foley? This next one goes out to a fat guy I know. I'm throwing my underwear at you.
2:01 H. Foley? I love it. Musically, we got a million questions. We gotta get to the backstory, find out how you grew up. Give us the origin story.
2:10 Speaker 02 South Carolina.
2:11 H. Foley? Greenville.
2:12 Speaker 03 South Carolina, yeah, Greenville. So, upstate South Carolina.
2:17 Speaker 03 Not a great student.
2:19 Speaker 02 Let's get that on the record.
2:20 Speaker 03 Get that out there.
2:21 Speaker 02 Gotta wanna get out in front of these charges. Your honor.
2:25 H. Foley? This isn't a job interview. You're good, don't worry.
2:30 Speaker 03 I mean, I just came up playing music. My grandfather did it for a living and my dad did.
2:35 Speaker 02 So it was in the household. That was it. There was no really other route for you to take.
2:39 Speaker 03 Right. It was either that or like ministry. You know, it was like a family profession.
2:44 H. Foley? You should've been born in 1922. It's crazy. I was gonna ask you about the crossroads.
2:53 Speaker 02 What was, what was, what was the town like neighborhood wise? Small town, rural, is it suburban? What was it?
3:00 Speaker 03 It was, it was suburban, but it was like a, it was a nice neighborhood in the 50s.
3:05 Speaker 02 Okay, I got you.
3:06 H. Foley? Yeah, know exactly what you're talking about.
3:07 Speaker 03 You know what I'm talking about. It was like a mill village. But the mill'd been closed down for a while.
3:12 Speaker 02 They shut the mill down.
3:13 H. Foley? Man, say no more.
3:14 Speaker 03 Exactly. So, it was a nice neighborhood in the 50s. Everybody in that neighborhood was like 70 plus.
3:21 H. Foley? Okay.
3:22 Speaker 03 My dad was 43 when I was born and his parents kinda watched me while he was at work.
3:28 H. Foley? Okay.
3:28 Speaker 02 Was he touring or was he local? Was he...
3:31 Speaker 03 Yes, so when I was born...
3:32 H. Foley? And was he doing well? Was he, was he doing well as a musician?
3:35 Speaker 03 He always did well as a musician, but he was really working class. He had, like, from the 70s to the 90s, he had worked with multiple bands who had good record deals, but they always kinda fell apart or he got screwed out of it somehow or another, because he was always just a guitar player.
3:50 H. Foley? Okay.
3:51 Speaker 03 And...
3:51 H. Foley? Was he a studio guy? Would he be a studio guy?
3:53 Speaker 03 He did some studio stuff as well. But after that last deal fell apart in the 90s in Nashville, he came back to Greenville. And my sister was born in 93. And that's when he like went back to church, rededicated his life. And he decided to get an office job and like tried to be like
4:12 H. Foley? Gotcha.
4:12 Speaker 03 Straight laced, he fucking hated it.
4:15 Speaker 02 You can't tie that guy down.
4:16 Speaker 03 Nah.
4:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:17 Speaker 03 Marvin.
4:18 Speaker 02 Guy's multiple record deals, all the next thing you know, he's selling like Ink Tony or something like that?
4:22 Speaker 03 He was working for a contracting place, so he'd be the guy that's like, he'd send people out.
4:26 Speaker 02 Uh huh, dispatcher or whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:29 Speaker 03 And he hated it.
4:30 Speaker 02 Okay.
4:30 Speaker 03 When I was younger, he started playing music again.
4:32 H. Foley? Okay.
4:33 Speaker 03 So he'd be out playing and I'd stay with my grandparents, but they were from the greatest generation, so I think, you know, I came up watching TV with them and it was like Sanford and Son, Andy Griffith Show, All in the Family, that kind of thing.
4:46 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. Damn, that guy's an old soul.
4:48 H. Foley? He's 29.
4:49 Speaker 02 I know, it's crazy.
4:50 H. Foley? That's what I watched when I was a kid. So when did you start playing guitar?
4:54 Speaker 03 Man, I was like two or three years old.
4:56 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
4:57 Speaker 03 It was always around.
4:59 Speaker 02 Were you one of those kids too, like, did it, do you feel like it come, like it came naturally to it? Like, were you, obviously the world renowned, but like, was it very much like it just worked? Or did you work very hard at it, or a combination of both, probably?
5:12 Speaker 03 I think a combination of both. I remember like, you know, I got a, like a first full scale guitar when I was seven years old.
5:19 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
5:19 Speaker 03 And before that, I had a miniature Les Paul. And I just spent
5:22 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
5:23 H. Foley? I didn't know they made them.
5:24 Speaker 03 All my hours I spent just in the back room and just cranking it, cranking it out. And, um, I don't know, man, I didn't have any friends. I was just kind of a loner kid. You know, probably undiagnosed, some type of autism.
5:38 Speaker 02 Sure, I mean, that's the best kind though.
5:40 Speaker 03 Spent hours watching
5:41 Speaker 02 Just unregulated autism to really get into a, into a mini Les Paul, dude.
5:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, dude.
5:46 H. Foley? Real good musicians are real red flag when it comes to that too.
5:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:51 Speaker 02 No friends, but he's melting faces in the back room.
5:55 Speaker 02 He just got him a new whammy bar.
5:58 Speaker 02 Man, I could never figure out that way. I've tried playing guitar. And that guy introduced that to me like two months in. I was like, buddy, you're crazy.
6:05 H. Foley? I could never, I could never get past tuning the guitar, uh, from the strings. Like, you see how it sounds the same? I had no idea. Can you tune it by ear?
6:14 Speaker 02 What?
6:15 H. Foley? I don't know.
6:16 Speaker 02 I'll tune you by ear. Are you kidding me?
6:19 Speaker 03 I mean, kind of a D flat. It was kind of, you know, cause a lot of guys do like alternate tunings, like open tunings and shit.
6:25 H. Foley? It's like they'll tune down from D.
6:27 Speaker 03 Yeah. Like I could do like, I can do that. Um, I do like an open G tuning sometimes, but like a lot of people ask me like, why I don't ever do, use like, uh, open E tuning? Or something like Derek Trucks would use. And I remember distinctly like being in the back room and like trying to learn how to, you know.
6:45 H. Foley? Tune it down?
6:46 Speaker 03 Tune it to open E. And my grandfather being in the, you know, the, the front room watching TV and he heard me like. And he's like, you're gonna break that goddamn string. You're gonna break it. And then I did, I popped it and like, he wouldn't change the string for me. And he was just, he was really belligerent about it. And I never really fooled with open tunings after that.
7:05 H. Foley? No kidding. So it's just, it's tuned, you're, most times when you play the songs you write, it's tuned in E?
7:12 Speaker 03 Just standard, yeah.
7:13 Speaker 02 No shit. Damn.
7:14 H. Foley? I always thought that was a cheat code to tune it down.
7:17 Speaker 03 Uh, you could, you could find some interesting ways to play on that.
7:20 H. Foley? Makes it easier.
7:21 Speaker 03 Yeah. Sometimes.
7:24 Speaker 02 I never realized I was sitting next to Les Paul.
7:31 Speaker 02 You sold your guitar like 15 years ago for drugs. What are you talking about?
7:34 H. Foley? Luke, look at my ibanez.
7:39 H. Foley? Go get my squire.
7:41 Speaker 02 I had a squire. I had a P bass. It was a squire P bass too. A little package you would buy. I stunk. I tried everything. I was so bad.
7:48 H. Foley? So how far away did your grandparents live from your parents? And what did your mom do? Where was your mom in all this?
7:52 Speaker 03 My mom, she kind of split out when I was like four.
7:56 H. Foley? Okay.
7:56 Speaker 02 Okay.
7:57 Speaker 03 My parents, um, my parents got divorced.
8:00 Speaker 02 Damn, you are a musician. Holy shit. He also said split out.
8:04 Speaker 03 Split out, yeah.
8:05 Speaker 02 Was there, was she in, was there, did you see her at all or that was just kind of it?
8:09 Speaker 03 I saw her later on.
8:10 Speaker 02 Okay.
8:10 Speaker 03 You know, she kind of got mixed up with some, some bad folks here and there. So I would see her occasionally.
8:18 Speaker 03 You know, she remarried to my stepdad who was, uh. He was a really good guy when he wasn't drinking, but he was always drinking.
8:26 Speaker 02 I had one of those too.
8:27 Speaker 03 You know, just like.
8:28 H. Foley? Stayed in the same, was she in the same town? Was she in Greenville as well?
8:31 Speaker 03 She was, I don't know where she was for a while there.
8:33 H. Foley? Gotcha.
8:34 Speaker 03 And then she was kind of in the backwoods out in this place called Belton, South Carolina.
8:40 Speaker 02 Okay.
8:41 Speaker 03 But, uh, my sister and I were mostly at my dad's place.
8:44 H. Foley? Right.
8:44 Speaker 03 And, um.
8:45 Speaker 02 And it was your dad's parents that you were watching?
8:47 Speaker 03 And they lived next door.
8:48 H. Foley? No kidding? Alright.
8:49 Speaker 03 My dad got the house next to them in 1977 for like $20,000, you know? Um, and, uh, yeah, I just spent all my hours just with my grandparents playing guitar.
9:01 Speaker 02 Damn. Okay.
9:03 H. Foley? That's wild.
9:04 Speaker 02 I know.
9:04 H. Foley? And how old were your grandparents at the time?
9:07 Speaker 03 They were older, so, um, I guess they must've been like 75.
9:11 H. Foley? And your dad was gone for like a week at a time and overnight?
9:15 Speaker 03 Mostly just overnight.
9:17 H. Foley? Okay.
9:17 Speaker 03 At that time, he was playing with like wedding bands, like just good money.
9:21 Speaker 02 Gotcha. Good money, what kind of local gigs?
9:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:24 Speaker 02 Gotcha.
9:24 H. Foley? Gotcha. Damn. Huh. What was the grocery store that you guys were going to as a kid?
9:29 Speaker 03 We went to Bi-Lo.
9:30 Speaker 02 Bi-Lo?
9:31 Speaker 03 It's a food line now, but.
9:32 H. Foley? Okay.
9:32 Speaker 02 Okay.
9:34 H. Foley? Bi-Lo.
9:34 Speaker 02 I don't hate a Bi-Lo. And, uh, what was, I, you, at one point you, you dropped out of school, correct?
9:42 Speaker 03 I did, yeah.
9:42 Speaker 02 At what age was that?
9:43 Speaker 03 I was 17.
9:44 Speaker 02 17, so senior, junior, senior year?
9:47 Speaker 03 Junior. It's, it's my wife's favorite thing to tell people that I dropped out of high school. She thinks it's great.
9:52 Speaker 02 That's, it is dude, it is, I don't know why, but for dirtbags, it is such a badge of honor, like, he didn't drink, I dropped out at 17, you know?
10:00 H. Foley? So no, no friends, no hanging out, no traditional, uh, like growing up, high school thing? Did you play like Little League and stuff like that?
10:07 Speaker 03 Nah, like, I don't know, man, like.
10:10 H. Foley? So you were in that room playing the guitar?
10:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:12 Speaker 02 That's how you get.
10:15 Speaker 03 I wanted to be in the Cub Scouts and it's like, around the time that I was of age to do like Cub Scouts and stuff, there was a lot of stories coming out.
10:24 Speaker 02 That's a great way, this guy's been media trained. A lot of stories coming out.
10:29 H. Foley? He ain't talking about ghost stories either.
10:32 Speaker 02 Oh, I mean, maybe you were, I don't know. Uh, yeah, okay, yeah, right, cause you're younger, so that, that kind of all popped at that point?
10:39 Speaker 03 Yep.
10:39 Speaker 02 Okay.
10:40 Speaker 03 My, my dad never wanted me to like. Hurt myself or anything because I was playing guitar so much.
10:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think if you're that good at a young age and your dad, your dad's musician, your grandfather's musician, it's like.
10:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:51 Speaker 02 Yeah, let's not go.
10:51 H. Foley? Could they, could they see it?
10:54 Speaker 03 They could see it from an early age and just like my passion about it.
10:57 H. Foley? Uh huh.
10:57 Speaker 03 The hours I spent doing it, you know.
10:59 H. Foley? What are we talking about? Okay, you're, let's say you're, you're 12 years old, your dad's got a gig, you and your sister are over at your grandparents. Um, you get home from school.
11:09 Speaker 02 Three o'clock.
11:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:11 Speaker 02 You write on it?
11:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:13 H. Foley? Watching cartoons, getting something to eat.
11:15 Speaker 02 What, what's that?
11:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, dude. My, my grandmother, she was, uh, from Munich, Germany.
11:19 Speaker 02 No shit.
11:20 Speaker 03 She had this really intense like, uh, uh, German and southern cuisine.
11:26 H. Foley? Alright.
11:26 Speaker 02 Wow.
11:26 Speaker 03 She was always cooking like something amazing.
11:29 Speaker 02 My wife's German, so yeah, I get it, yeah, yeah.
11:31 H. Foley? A little schnitzel, she make a schnitzel?
11:32 Speaker 03 Oh dude, yeah.
11:33 Speaker 02 I had some last night.
11:34 H. Foley? Did you?
11:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's great.
11:36 Speaker 03 It's the best.
11:36 Speaker 02 I didn't know, I, I've heard schnitzel my whole life and then when I married, I'm like, oh, it's just a cutlet.
11:40 Speaker 03 It's a fried pork cutlet, yeah.
11:42 Speaker 02 Exactly, it's great, it's the best.
11:44 H. Foley? Alright, so it's three o'clock, you get home, she's got something to eat.
11:47 Speaker 03 Got something to eat for me, you know, um, I was definitely a bigger kid.
11:51 H. Foley? Yeah.
11:51 Speaker 03 Cause I was just, you know, sitting still, playing guitar, eating, uh, watching cartoons. So I'd just have like wrestling or cartoons on and just.
12:00 H. Foley? In the living room?
12:01 Speaker 03 Uh, no, in my back room. I had this little blue chair, TV set and my guitar. I'd just sit and play for hours.
12:08 Speaker 02 What was that, what was the wrestler of the time?
12:10 Speaker 03 Wrestler of the time for me was Stone Cold.
12:12 Speaker 02 Shout out to Stone Cold, baby.
12:14 Speaker 03 I've got a Stone Cold.
12:15 Speaker 02 A man after my own heart.
12:16 Speaker 03 I've got a Stone Cold poster in my gym.
12:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
12:18 Speaker 03 You just don't want to let him down.
12:20 Speaker 02 Dude, what a way to put that. Uh, yeah, man, Stone Cold hit like a tsunami. It was, he was something else. Just a cool, also then they know southern, I didn't even have that, but like that guy was the cool, we, we would try to get him on the show, but to no avail.
12:36 H. Foley? Did you play in a band in high school or anything like that?
12:39 Speaker 02 Did you play in like jazz band or anything when, in school?
12:41 Speaker 03 It's, it's funny you bring that up, like, uh, somebody just reached out the other day and let me know that my jazz band teacher died.
12:48 Speaker 02 Ah, sorry to hear.
12:49 Speaker 03 Mr. Caldwell. And he was, he was really cool, but. There was like this weird thing in the jazz band because all the other kids were like upset because like I played bass, I played drums, I played guitar. And I was just like, I was excelling in the, in the program, you know? And they were all upset about it. And, and Bruce was like, look, you know, I'll just give you a free period. Like you don't have to do anything because they're all getting upset, you know?
13:15 H. Foley? Getting upset? I don't understand.
13:16 Speaker 03 And he was like-
13:17 Speaker 02 Going in there and shredding, always stealing everybody's job.
13:19 Speaker 03 Like he was about to retire and he was just like, I just don't want to fucking deal with it.
13:22 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
13:23 Speaker 03 He was, he was always really cool and I would just like skip class during that, but-
13:27 H. Foley? Could he, obviously he could see it too?
13:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, and he always-
13:30 Speaker 02 At that point, you're really, at seven, in like a high school, you're probably really good.
13:34 Speaker 03 Like fifteen and sixteen, I was, I was working as a musician, you know, I had a band full of like forty year old men.
13:40 Speaker 02 Uh, with like wife and kids at home and I was working this like four or five nights a week. Where?
13:46 Speaker 03 Like around Greenville, the upstate area.
13:48 Speaker 02 You're flat, Randy, pick it up. Yelling at some guy.
13:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, dude.
13:54 Speaker 02 That's sick.
13:55 Speaker 03 Yeah. My drummer was like forty-five. His name was Tracy Littlejohn.
14:00 Speaker 02 What a name. What is with these other names? They're perfect.
14:04 Speaker 03 He had a, he had a pistol in his stick bag. He was just, uh, one of the coolest motherfuckers ever.
14:10 Speaker 02 Damn.
14:11 Speaker 03 Um, he kept an eye out for me out there. Um, yeah, I just had a, a band full of just grown men and-
14:18 Speaker 02 How do you find them?
14:19 Speaker 03 Well, through working with my dad.
14:21 Speaker 02 Working with your dad.
14:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:22 H. Foley? And how do you, like, I know you're good, but like, how do you get, do they just hear you play and they're like, oh yeah, we'll, we'll sit behind this kid?
14:29 Speaker 03 Right.
14:30 H. Foley? Right?
14:31 Speaker 02 It's as simple as that.
14:33 Speaker 03 Well, and then there was kinda like the, uh, you know, um-
14:38 H. Foley? Like who sits your ass behind that slide guitar? The kid's leading this one.
14:43 Speaker 03 Right. It was kinda like-
14:44 H. Foley? And were you writing songs and singing and all that stuff?
14:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, I started writing around the time I was like thirteen, fourteen.
14:49 H. Foley? Man. Were you playing originals, doing these shows around, around the area?
14:53 Speaker 03 For the most part there, I was doing a lot of covers.
14:56 H. Foley? Who were you, who were you covering?
14:58 Speaker 03 We were covering like Little Feet, Allman Brothers Band. Um, we would do like old like beach classics. Cause like in South Carolina, North Carolina, beach music is like a thing. It's like, um- And I, I was really, it was crazy to me, I found out like-
15:14 H. Foley? Like Surfing Bird and stuff like that?
15:15 Speaker 03 No, it's like, it's, it's like old soul music.
15:19 H. Foley? Okay.
15:19 Speaker 03 Like, uh, The Temptations or like, um, we had bands like, uh, The Sham or The Tams and like, uh, there was like these, this really niche brand of like-
15:30 H. Foley? Huh.
15:30 Speaker 03 We call it beach music.
15:31 Speaker 02 Okay.
15:32 H. Foley? Beach music.
15:32 Speaker 03 Called shagging music, South Carolina.
15:34 H. Foley? Shagging music.
15:35 Speaker 03 So we did that kinda thing.
15:36 Speaker 02 Okay.
15:37 H. Foley? Give me a couple of other songs that would be considered that, cause Temptations, that's, that's Motown us.
15:41 Speaker 03 Right. So like Motown, all the Motown stuff fits into like the shag category.
15:46 Speaker 02 Shag?
15:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, S-H-A-G. Um, there was a guy named Willie T. was a big shag artist.
15:53 Speaker 02 Carolina Beach and Shag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Beach music, also known as Carolina Beach music, and to lesser extent, beach pop is regional genre of music in the United States. Uh, developed from rock, R and B, pop music in the 1950s and 60s. Okay.
16:06 H. Foley? So when you start playing these things, you, you, you guys, you start making some money? Start making good money doing this?
16:11 Speaker 03 Start making a little bread.
16:12 H. Foley? The crowds, crowds are getting big?
16:14 Speaker 03 Yeah. Crowds are getting big, you know, it was, there was kind of a, a shift where people were coming to watch the ballgame at the bar and then they'd start listening to us.
16:22 H. Foley? Sure.
16:22 Speaker 03 And we were catching a lot of runoff from like the widespread panic fans.
16:26 Speaker 02 Okay.
16:27 H. Foley? Gotcha.
16:27 Speaker 03 You know?
16:27 H. Foley? Okay.
16:28 Speaker 03 That was kinda our bread and butter, was like the, uh, 45-year-old like widespread panic deadhead type of individual.
16:36 H. Foley? No kidding?
16:37 Speaker 03 You know?
16:38 Speaker 02 Huh.
16:38 H. Foley? With a 14, 15-year-old kid leading it?
16:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:41 H. Foley? Damn.
16:41 Speaker 02 That's sick. And then when, I guess the, the decision to drop out of school, was that like, money-wise or just attention span-wise, like time-wise?
16:50 H. Foley? How bad were the grades?
16:51 Speaker 03 Man, they were terrible.
16:52 H. Foley? And you weren't going to parties and stuff like that, or?
16:55 Speaker 03 Man, I went to a couple of parties and I just was never really welcomed. And the people at the school, they hated me, but they didn't really know what I did. They thought I was just a dropout, you know? They thought I was-
17:07 Speaker 02 Misunderstood.
17:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:08 H. Foley? Were they preppy kids? Were they?
17:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was a pretty conservative area of the country and, you know, long hair. I'd smell a pot when I'd show up in the morning, you know?
17:18 H. Foley? Were you like wearing this, like when you were like 14?
17:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:20 H. Foley? And my sandals.
17:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, dude.
17:24 Speaker 03 My Birkin socks.
17:25 Speaker 02 He's showing up like a goddamn rock star.
17:26 H. Foley? What about the glasses? You weren't wearing the red glasses back then, were you?
17:29 Speaker 03 I, yeah. I mean, I had a different kind, but yeah.
17:33 H. Foley? Man, that's awesome.
17:34 Speaker 03 Cause the lights always bug my eyes. But, you know, they just, they thought I had like no ambition. But I just, little did they know, like I was really working on something.
17:43 Speaker 02 Have the most ambition.
17:44 H. Foley? You never had the moment where you got to get up and shred it in front of the talent show or something like that?
17:48 Speaker 03 In fifth grade, I did that.
17:51 Speaker 03 In fifth grade and I had a set of healies and I healed across the stage.
17:54 Speaker 02 No shit. Let's go. I mean, talk about the coolest kid in town.
17:59 H. Foley? You had a Lynyrd Skynyrd backing him up. That still wasn't enough?
18:02 Speaker 03 Still wasn't enough.
18:03 Speaker 02 What was the song? Do you play? Do you remember?
18:06 Speaker 03 That's a good question. I don't remember.
18:08 H. Foley? Was it MMBop, I'm sure?
18:10 Speaker 03 It wasn't MMBop.
18:11 H. Foley? Which is a good song, by the way.
18:13 Speaker 03 Those guys came and saw us play in, uh, uh, it wasn't Albany, New York. It was somewhere upstate New York.
18:19 H. Foley? Okay.
18:19 Speaker 03 They were playing and they, uh, they came over and hung out with us after our show, which was funny.
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21:35 Speaker 03 But the reason I dropped out of high school was because you guys are familiar with truancy, I'm sure.
21:40 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure. What are you trying to, what are you trying to rope me into your, your delinquent ass? No way. You guys are dirtbags.
21:47 H. Foley? 100%. You're in good company.
21:49 Speaker 03 I mean, my sister was really the one that was true.
21:52 Speaker 02 Really?
21:52 Speaker 03 She would skip school every day. My dad'd drop her off. She'd go out the back door and go off, do whatever she was doing. And when we finally, we went to court about it and Anderson School District made it clear, like, any child in the home that's also in Anderson School Districts has to sign this, like, pledge. It's like, it hangs over you your entire, you know, time through school. So I had this thing hanging over me. And of course, like, three months later, my sister turned seventeen and dropped out. And I was in eighth grade, or ninth grade at this time. So ninth and tenth grade, everything was cool. But in eleventh grade, I'd show up late or like, I would, um...
22:29 H. Foley? You're getting off the road or something like that. Yeah.
22:31 Speaker 03 I'd show up late and they really started, you know, busting my chops about it and they, they were gonna send me to like a reformatory school down in Columbia.
22:39 H. Foley? Did they know what you were doing?
22:40 Speaker 03 No. And they wanted to like shave my head and...
22:43 Speaker 02 What?
22:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:44 Speaker 02 Sounds like it was in the fifties.
22:46 H. Foley? This was fifteen years ago.
22:48 Speaker 03 I know. And they were like telling me I was gonna end up in prison and all this shit. And they were just really, they were very cruel to me.
22:55 Speaker 02 That's brutal, man. I'm sorry to hear that.
22:56 H. Foley? Yeah, it sucks.
22:57 Speaker 03 The only saving grace was like, in the afternoons, I went to, uh, it's like a vocational school.
23:02 Speaker 02 Okay.
23:02 Speaker 03 But they had like dancing and, uh, they had a jazz department there. And I studied jazz theory, which was different from high school jazz band. It was like a collegiate level, like, theory program.
23:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, like the deep dive into it.
23:15 Speaker 03 And I would've stayed in high school to stay there another year. But I just, I couldn't put up with my, my high school anymore. So I just decided to drop out. I got my GED.
23:25 Speaker 02 At that same time?
23:26 Speaker 03 Yeah. Right away. I just, I just went straight into it.
23:30 Speaker 02 Smart move. Now, okay, let's say you, you're dropped out. What, uh, what's the cash situ- are you like, you're like piecing together money from gigs? Is that, are you like sitting kinda pretty? Do you gotta, are you saving? What's the car?
23:43 Speaker 03 Right. So I had a Chrysler Town and Country, two thousand one.
23:47 Speaker 02 Man, that was a great year for the Town and Country. We're a big minivan team over here.
23:52 Speaker 03 Same.
23:53 Speaker 02 There's nothing better. They, they got more space than anything. Low profile. They got a little giddy up in them.
23:59 Speaker 03 All, all of that. I mean, I had the best deal for anybody that was working with me because I carried the base rig. I carried the PA.
24:06 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
24:07 Speaker 03 I carried the lights all in my minivan. I was fourteen and fifteen, so I could only drive with a licensed driver in the car.
24:15 Speaker 03 So I would hire the band on the basis of like, you do whatever you want.
24:19 H. Foley? Little John's Riding Shotgun.
24:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, Little John's Riding Shotgun. We're going down to Augusta, Georgia. We're gonna play this gig. Come on.
24:25 Speaker 02 But just get in the van. I got everything else taken care of. Get in.
24:28 H. Foley? Who was booking the gigs?
24:30 Speaker 03 I was booking them.
24:30 H. Foley? You were booking them?
24:31 Speaker 03 Yeah. I was calling these clubs. I was using a fake name, sending emails, pretending like I was representing. That's...
24:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:38 H. Foley? Wow.
24:39 Speaker 02 I love this.
24:40 H. Foley? Did they know you were 14 and 15 when you were doing that?
24:42 Speaker 03 No.
24:43 H. Foley? What would they say when you would show up?
24:45 Speaker 03 It was mixed, uh...
24:47 H. Foley? Until you started playing, I assume.
24:49 Speaker 03 Yeah. But, I mean, it was never really too much an issue because... I'd run into issues because, like, when I started trying to drink, you know? But, I mean, that wasn't until later, till I was like 18, 19, 18. And even then, I would keep it under wraps. But, um, you know, I have a baby face now. So when I'm 14, like, it was really like, we got this kid that plays the guitar well, and the bandmates would be my chaperones.
25:16 H. Foley? Right.
25:17 Speaker 03 You know? So I'd kinda set it up like that, and they'd let me come in, and it was kind of a... It was kind of a gimmick, you know?
25:23 H. Foley? They're all fucked up?
25:24 Speaker 02 Sure.
25:24 Speaker 03 Yeah. And they were looking after me, and it was... The gimmick was like, you come see this kid play.
25:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:29 Speaker 03 And it's like, nobody's gonna give me alcohol. You know, if you saw me at 14, you was...
25:34 H. Foley? You'd have the chops, didn't you, back then?
25:35 Speaker 03 No, I couldn't grow anything. No.
25:37 H. Foley? Sick if you did. Back to the fifth grade.
25:41 H. Foley? Coming out in the wheelies.
25:44 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
25:47 H. Foley? Holy shit. That's... This is nuts.
25:49 Speaker 02 That's... I mean, what...
25:50 H. Foley? What a life, man. Unbelievable.
25:52 Speaker 02 It's so... It's like such a unique story that we've never had.
25:57 H. Foley? And then how long does this go on?
25:58 Speaker 02 I have one... Did you work... Have you ever worked a straight job? Like, what was like your fir... You know, did you work at like the Burger King or something?
26:04 Speaker 03 So, I worked at the Mellow Mushroom.
26:07 Speaker 02 What's that?
26:08 Speaker 03 You guys don't have Mellow Mushroom up here, that's right.
26:10 Speaker 02 I don't think so.
26:10 H. Foley? Mellow Mushroom?
26:11 Speaker 03 Mellow.
26:11 H. Foley? Mellow Mushroom?
26:12 Speaker 03 Mellow Mushroom. And it's a pizza joint.
26:14 Speaker 02 I thought, I've seen the pizza joint, Mellow Mushroom.
26:17 Speaker 03 It's really, it's really good.
26:20 Speaker 03 I don't think we have them, uh, north of like, Virginia, I wanna say. So it's kind of a regional pizza joint, but it's like a hippie themed pizza joint, so I fit in really great there.
26:31 H. Foley? Right.
26:31 Speaker 03 I started off as a dishwasher, uh, worked my way up to the line chef.
26:36 Speaker 02 Damn.
26:36 H. Foley? There you go.
26:37 Speaker 02 That's a, that's a pretty big jump.
26:38 Speaker 03 You know, I was doing that, and then, uh, I got fired, then I came back and I was a host.
26:45 Speaker 02 Okay.
26:46 Speaker 03 And I would seat people, bring them drinks.
26:48 H. Foley? How old are you doing this?
26:49 Speaker 03 I was like sixteen.
26:50 H. Foley? So you're, this is why you're doing the, the shows and stuff?
26:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, so.
26:53 H. Foley? So you still needed a little extra income?
26:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, like that, that summer I was doing, ho, or, uh, uh, summer school and I was doing the pizza joint and I was playing guitar in the evenings.
27:03 Speaker 02 A hustler, dude.
27:04 Speaker 03 I was hustling.
27:05 Speaker 02 That's sick. And what, like, I mean, we, we've done, we, you know, we kinda came up the same way through the stand-up comedy world of these horrible gigs, just getting in a car, trying to get there.
27:14 Speaker 03 Right.
27:14 Speaker 02 To go pick up a horrible check, lose money, van hotel.
27:17 H. Foley? I was doing it in my forties.
27:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, we, yeah, we did, we, Steve did it a little later in life. Um, what's a gig like that, you're fifteen, you got the van, you got the team, you get to the show in Atlanta or whatever, what's that pay? Like fifteen hundred, a thousand dollars for everybody, less?
27:33 Speaker 03 Five hundred bucks.
27:34 Speaker 02 Five hundred bucks.
27:35 Speaker 03 I remember like, we would show up and the deal would be like seventy-five a man. And then we'd show up, uh, so it's three hundred dollars.
27:43 Speaker 02 Okay.
27:44 Speaker 03 For a four-piece band. And we showed up, our keyboard player couldn't make it one night, and, you know, the dude gave us seventy-five bucks each, and I was like, no, no, no, the deal was three hundred. And he's like, no, it's seventy-five a man.
27:55 Speaker 02 You're a man short.
27:56 Speaker 03 And I was like, what the hell? So we would, we would work the hell out of the tip jar, you know, I got really good at like working that tip jar. That was kind of my shtick for a while.
28:04 Speaker 02 Did you have any good, what was like their best, did you have like a good line?
28:07 Speaker 03 I would try to do the tip jar games, you know?
28:09 Speaker 02 What's that?
28:10 Speaker 03 If you can try to make it into this bucket and like get them really going.
28:13 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
28:13 Speaker 03 And then some drunk guy would come up, be like, it's gotta be a 20, nothing lower than a 20. If you can make it in the bucket, then you get the whole bag, you know? That whole thing? And then I would move the bucket and it would be funny. And then everybody'd laugh, but like one guy tried to fight me about it.
28:27 Speaker 02 Sure.
28:27 H. Foley? That's like when you were a kid?
28:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, I gave him his 20 back.
28:30 Speaker 02 20 is 20, dude.
28:32 Speaker 03 I was like, here you go, don't worry about it. It's supposed to be a joke, cause we want you to tip the band.
28:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're having a fight, it's a good time, we're not here to fight each other.
28:40 Speaker 03 At the end of the day, you should tip the band anyway, but I understand, I'm sorry. But, um, I mean, there were multiple, like, just close calls like that, just gigs where they didn't want to pay us. And my grandfather's advice to me was, well, if they do that, man, you just gotta start taking their shit. And I was like, okay.
28:59 H. Foley? Like salt and pepper shakers or something like that?
29:01 Speaker 02 Take their fucking PA system or whatever, yeah.
29:02 Speaker 03 He said, take anything that ain't bolted down.
29:06 Speaker 03 And when they ask you why you're doing it, so we gotta get paid, I'm gonna sell this shit. So that was kind of, I did that one night in Spartanburg.
29:11 H. Foley? You got a pizza oven in the Town and Country?
29:15 Speaker 02 What'd you take?
29:16 H. Foley? Deal's a deal, Randy!
29:17 Speaker 03 I mean, it was a total bluff because I can't fit all this in the Town and Country.
29:23 Speaker 02 I was gonna have to leave it, I was gonna have to leave the bases there.
29:25 H. Foley? You had two waitresses in there?
29:27 Speaker 03 We'd been playing all night and like, the agreement was for us to play until 12. And they said, no, you play till 1. I was like, there's nobody here and the agreement, our email says 12, so we're getting out of here. And they said, well, we're not fucking paying you. And I said, well, we're gonna have to take all your shit. So we started loading their stuff out and out of nowhere, these big burly guys showed up. And it was at the back entrance of the club is where you load in and load out. And on the other side of the fence was like a police dispatch unit. So everybody just standing outside of the dispatch unit smoking cigarettes. So out of nowhere, like six cops pull up, there was like this brawl happening in the street.
30:03 H. Foley? Jeez, no kidding?
30:04 Speaker 03 My drummer at the time, he, he, uh, some guy jumped on his back and broke his ankle.
30:09 H. Foley? Oh no.
30:10 Speaker 03 It was a whole thing.
30:11 H. Foley? How old are you when this is going on?
30:13 Speaker 02 This is crazy.
30:14 Speaker 03 16.
30:16 Speaker 03 I caused a bar, a bar brawl, but, uh, they paid us.
30:20 Speaker 02 Good, I mean, you got your money. What's uh, what would you, what would the most you'd like you'd make your, what would be a good night from the bucket, the tip bucket?
30:28 Speaker 03 Good night from the tip bucket would be like 200 bucks.
30:30 Speaker 02 That's pretty, you know, I mean, that's good.
30:32 Speaker 03 Two, three hundred bucks. And when we play this bar in Asheville, North Carolina, um, the deal with every band was like, you get a case of PBR. And I knew that. And I'd tell them, you know, hey, I, I understand the circumstances, but I still want that case of PBR. So they'd give it to me on the back steps like a cat, like a stray cat. I would leave and then come back and just have a case of beer on the bottom step for me.
30:57 Speaker 02 It's like you're dropping a briefcase full of fucking secret documents.
30:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:00 H. Foley? I think you're gonna have to switch it out with chocolate milk or something like that.
31:03 Speaker 02 I want my code red now.
31:05 Speaker 03 Well, I, I definitely started drinking at that point, so.
31:08 H. Foley? Nice, PBRs.
31:11 Speaker 03 What are you gonna do, you play dick to your Jesus?
31:13 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's tough. I mean.
31:15 Speaker 03 That's nuts.
31:16 Speaker 02 We, I mean, I, it's tough for us not to drink, you know, we're, you know, similar thing at night, you're in clubs and everything and it's just like, it's tough. It's tough as an adult not to drink, let alone like a kid with no experience or think you're gonna get into it.
31:28 H. Foley? When you were a kid and you were at home and say your dad had an off night, would you guys sit down and have dinner together? And would your grandparents usually be involved in that?
31:35 Speaker 03 Usually at my grandparents' house. My grandmother would cook, um, grandfather head of the table, my dad, me and my sister and my, and my grandma.
31:43 H. Foley? So for the most part, like groceries and stuff like that, your grandmother was doing that?
31:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'd say until like I was 11 or so.
31:50 H. Foley? What would normally be in the fridge as a kid, your dad is a musician, single dad is a musician, what are we talking about?
31:58 Speaker 03 So, I mean, my grandmother was really good at like making a grocery list last all week. You know, get ground beef and she would make, um, spaghetti, but it was, it was more like a skyline chili kind of thing.
32:11 Speaker 02 Okay.
32:11 Speaker 03 So she would make the chili for that and then the next day it would be hot dogs, same chili.
32:16 Speaker 02 I don't hate that. I'm all about it.
32:18 Speaker 03 And the next day, like leftover chopped up hot dogs with just buttered noodles, that kind of thing.
32:24 H. Foley? Alright.
32:24 Speaker 02 You're speaking my language, dude. I like it. Uh, okay. And what would like a family vacation look like growing up?
32:30 H. Foley? Would you do anything?
32:31 Speaker 02 Or just travel for work or what was the?
32:33 Speaker 03 Once a year, we would make the pilgrimage down to Charleston, South Carolina.
32:39 Speaker 02 Okay.
32:39 Speaker 03 Occasionally change it up with Myrtle Beach, throw a little flair.
32:43 Speaker 02 Big fan of Myrtle Beach myself.
32:44 H. Foley? Big fan of Charleston.
32:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, great. We'd go down, we'd get one motel room. Uh grandparents in one bed. It's the only time they would share a bed. Uh otherwise they would separate bedrooms.
32:55 H. Foley? No kidding.
32:56 Speaker 03 So.
32:56 H. Foley? It's such an old school thing.
32:57 Speaker 03 Yeah, me and my dad and my sister.
32:59 H. Foley? They had different rooms.
33:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:00 H. Foley? I couldn't get my head around that. I'm like, wait, you sleep here? You sleep here? How the fuck did everybody get here?
33:04 Speaker 03 Right, exactly. I couldn't, I couldn't figure it out either. But they were the same way.
33:09 H. Foley? Huh.
33:09 Speaker 03 So, once a year we'd go down to Charleston for a weekend. Uh, one motel room. We'd go to one nice dinner.
33:15 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. Stand, standard American, uh, standard American vacation.
33:19 H. Foley? So financially, growing up, things weren't great?
33:23 Speaker 03 I mean, they were tight, but like, we didn't want for a lot, you know? We, we did okay.
33:29 H. Foley? And the hot dogs and noodles.
33:30 Speaker 02 That's, that's got like chili going.
33:32 Speaker 03 But I look back and I think about like, I don't think there were that many roaming blackouts. I think the bills just didn't get paid in that month.
33:40 Speaker 03 And we'd have our camp.
33:41 Speaker 02 Another blackout.
33:41 Speaker 03 We'd have our campouts and my dad'd be like, this is crazy, this is crazy.
33:46 Speaker 02 Goddamn Enron pulling the plug on the, on the eastern seaboard.
33:51 Speaker 02 I didn't think there was that many rolling blackouts. The neighbors' lights are on.
33:55 H. Foley? Screaming about Obama.
33:57 Speaker 02 They're on a different grid.
34:00 Speaker 02 That's, that's, rolling blackouts, the whole neighborhood's lit up. This is a target, this is, this is targeted bullshit.
34:07 H. Foley? What about Christmas? What were holidays like?
34:09 Speaker 03 Oh, man. They were so great.
34:12 H. Foley? Would you do a tree?
34:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, we'd do a tree.
34:14 Speaker 02 Fake or real?
34:15 Speaker 03 Grandma had a fake tree.
34:16 H. Foley? Colored lights, white lights?
34:18 Speaker 03 White lights at grandma's house, uh, colored lights at my house.
34:21 H. Foley? Would your dad get a fake tree? Did your dad have a fake tree too?
34:23 Speaker 03 My dad would do a real tree, up until the time I was 11, and that's when we moved down to my stepmom's house. And she was very, fake tree, white lights, no bullshit.
34:32 H. Foley? So your dad got remarried?
34:34 Speaker 03 My dad got remarried.
34:34 H. Foley? Alright, cool, okay. Did she have any kids?
34:37 Speaker 03 She did. Um, it's actually, one of their birthday today, and they were a lot older than me.
34:42 H. Foley? Okay.
34:42 Speaker 03 I was 11 and her youngest son was 17.
34:45 Speaker 02 Wow.
34:45 Speaker 03 The oldest was 21, so.
34:47 Speaker 02 Not super close.
34:48 Speaker 03 It wasn't, it wasn't a great situation. And they, and they both were pretty troubled youths and, uh, she had a real hard time with them.
34:57 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
34:57 Speaker 03 It kinda made it difficult for her to, you know, focus on me and my sister.
35:02 Speaker 02 A hundred percent.
35:03 Speaker 03 And we really kinda needed that at the time, so it was kind of a rough situation for a while. But now we're very close.
35:09 Speaker 02 That's great.
35:09 Speaker 03 And, uh, they've been married now 20 years.
35:13 H. Foley? Man, that's, that's crazy.
35:15 Speaker 02 What a. What a story and what a guy to tell the story. He is fucking good. I forget we're doing a show. I'm just like, what else? I'm picturing it. I got the house. I got his grandparents out. I got the two trees going. That Skyline Chili, I can't get off my brain.
35:31 H. Foley? What toys did you play with when you were a kid?
35:33 Speaker 02 Les Paul. What are you talking about?
35:35 H. Foley? I know.
35:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:36 H. Foley? Really?
35:37 Speaker 03 When it wasn't Les Paul, it was wrestlers.
35:39 H. Foley? Okay.
35:39 Speaker 03 G.I. Joes.
35:40 H. Foley? G.I. Joes, alright.
35:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I would have my G.I. Joes set up and they had like these little-
35:45 Speaker 02 They're backing them up?
35:45 Speaker 03 These little guitar figurines, yeah. I would set them up to play like in a band.
35:52 H. Foley? You got Destro back there?
35:53 Speaker 02 Uh, I have so many, so many questions.
35:58 H. Foley? Cobra Commander on the keys, just giving you that thing?
36:01 Speaker 02 He's doing the-
36:03 H. Foley? Jesus, that's-
36:04 Speaker 02 Uh, what was the first, you know, when did you start making like, pretty good cash? And was there a kind of a dumb purchase where you're like, I didn't need that pontoon?
36:15 H. Foley? The first big check.
36:16 Speaker 02 You know?
36:17 Speaker 03 Oh, wow. Um, I mean, I think the first big check is when I, I was always pretty rational with my spending, I think. I got that from my, my grandpa.
36:27 H. Foley? And when you said, like, when you were like 14, 15 and 16 doing these gigs, would you have to go home and give the money to your dad? Or like, would you keep it all to yourself?
36:36 Speaker 03 I was, I remember I would help my, my mother out a little bit.
36:39 H. Foley? Gotcha.
36:39 Speaker 03 She was back in my life at that point. And I'd go down-
36:42 Speaker 02 14, 15?
36:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'd go down and try to help out a little bit.
36:45 Speaker 02 Damn.
36:46 Speaker 03 And then I'd come back and like the lights would be out and she'd have like a carton of cigarettes and like-
36:51 Speaker 02 Which, I've had to make that decision before myself.
36:54 H. Foley? Yeah, no kidding.
36:54 Speaker 03 And she told me later, she was like, "Yeah, you know, what you were bringing in wasn't really gonna make a difference." And I was like, "Fair enough, fair enough. Hey."
37:03 Speaker 02 What was, what was her brand of smokes?
37:05 Speaker 03 She was Marlboro Lights.
37:06 H. Foley? Nice.
37:07 Speaker 03 Marlboro Lights, I mean, a mom smoking Marlboro Lights in the car with the windows up, that is just-
37:12 Speaker 02 That's my, that's my stepmom, but yeah.
37:14 Speaker 03 Prime time, baby.
37:14 Speaker 02 We were in a purple Dodge Intrepid.
37:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:17 Speaker 02 Cooking.
37:17 H. Foley? I was like, we were in an old Jeep Wagoneer. I remember it was freezing outside. The windows were up, the heat was on. I'm like, this, I was like six. This can't be good.
37:25 Speaker 02 This can't be good.
37:26 H. Foley? This can't be good. It smells great though. You got a little bit of Aqua Net, you know, you got the radio on. Fond memories, but probably not good for the esophagus.
37:35 Speaker 02 No, it is not. Oh.
37:37 H. Foley? All right.
37:38 Speaker 02 Okay. What was, uh, one, yeah, sorry.
37:40 Speaker 03 The first big purchase, I guess.
37:41 Speaker 02 Yes.
37:42 H. Foley? And like, what did that look like?
37:43 Speaker 03 Well.
37:45 H. Foley? Did you get the, you got discovered online, right?
37:47 Speaker 03 Sort of kinda, yeah.
37:48 H. Foley? Right?
37:48 Speaker 03 We were, we were really just kinda out there beating the streets, man.
37:51 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
37:52 Speaker 03 We were playing, um, 200 nights a year. We'd go anywhere that somebody would have us.
37:57 H. Foley? Still with the same, same guys, kinda?
37:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, me and my drummer. Yeah, I met him when I was 17 and we've been together ever since.
38:04 H. Foley? How old is he?
38:05 Speaker 03 Uh, I think he was 19 or 20.
38:07 H. Foley? Okay, so a little bit younger. So you're not still with the 40's and 50-year-old guys?
38:10 Speaker 03 No, they all, you know, uh, uh, they didn't wanna leave town.
38:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, they can't, yeah, they can't.
38:15 Speaker 03 They had wives and kids.
38:16 H. Foley? Gotcha.
38:17 Speaker 03 And they couldn't go on the road for what I was able to pay.
38:19 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
38:20 Speaker 03 And we were sharing a motel room, which I was accustomed to.
38:23 H. Foley? And that all falls on you, what you're able to pay?
38:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:25 H. Foley? Huh.
38:26 Speaker 03 You know, you go out and whatever the club's willing to pay you.
38:29 H. Foley? Right.
38:30 Speaker 03 So we would drive like, straight to Paragold, Arkansas and play for like, 500 bucks and some pork steaks.
38:36 H. Foley? You and the drummer?
38:36 Speaker 03 Yeah, me and the drummer, bass player, keyboard player.
38:39 H. Foley? Okay.
38:39 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
38:40 Speaker 02 500 bucks, plus maybe passing the bucket around.
38:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, pass the bucket around.
38:44 Speaker 02 Say you're 600 bucks.
38:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:45 Speaker 02 Four guys, plus the, plus the steaks.
38:48 H. Foley? Okay, we gotta talk about Rocket Money.
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39:07 Speaker 02 And the thing with these companies is you sign, "Oh, sign up, it's $7.99", and then they find prints like, for the first two days.
39:13 H. Foley? Yeah.
39:14 Speaker 02 And then they jack, next thing you know, you're paying $69.99 a month or something, you're getting banned, you're like, "I didn't even know I signed up for this."
39:18 H. Foley? I just got bamboozled by somebody.
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39:59 H. Foley? Back to the show.
40:01 Speaker 00 Witness the beginning of the revolution.
40:04 Speaker 04 Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.
40:07 Speaker 00 Film for IMAX.
40:08 Speaker 04 Make them remember you.
40:11 Speaker 00 The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Leaping, November 20th, made in PD13.
40:14 H. Foley? Now, is this the nexus of the Marcus King Band, kinda like, this is, this is the squad?
40:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, and we had this guy, this guy Robbie, who was tight with like a lot of reggae bands.
40:25 H. Foley? Uh huh.
40:25 Speaker 03 And he knew this guy who was the brother of a bass player from this reggae band called The Movement. And Larry, uh, his mother had this crazy bu- payout from this insurance claim because she took some-
40:40 Speaker 02 There's always a payout involved in every dirtbag, every dirtbag origin story. Someone got hit by a bus, someone they left a sponging or something.
40:48 H. Foley? The ones with that air conditioner.
40:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, golly, she like, she took a vaccine or something and she ended up like paralyzed or something, God bless her, but, I mean, I never knew her, but they had this crazy big mansion outside of San Diego and, uh, they had all the G-Love and Special Sauce's road gear and they were recording in there. So, this fellow that we knew in, in Greenville named Bill Hahn, who's just the best, just Bud Light all day kinda guy.
41:15 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
41:16 Speaker 03 And he's so fucking hilarious, shout out Bill, um, he was like, "I'll fly you guys out there, man, you guys make a record, it'd be great." I was like, "Okay."
41:23 Speaker 02 Oh, G-Love's gear.
41:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, so we flew out to San Diego, we made a record, um, and the engineer on that record was this girl and like, her and I ended up just really kinda falling for each other. I was 18, she was 28. We started dating, we dated for like four years, so I'd go out there and see her as much as I could, and her sister lived in LA, so she took me up to LA and we went out to Tarzana one day to Norman's Rare Guitars.
41:49 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
41:50 Speaker 03 And she was like, "This is how LA works, you gotta just play and they'll discover you." And I was like, "I don't know." So I played and they, they liked what I was doing and they said, "Can we film you for our YouTube channel?" I'd never heard of such a thing, you know, so they did and then that just-
42:05 H. Foley? Of a YouTube channel?
42:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:06 H. Foley? Really?
42:07 Speaker 03 Well, I mean, I'd never heard of like, a guitar store filming somebody for-
42:11 H. Foley? Gotcha.
42:11 Speaker 03 I was like, "Sure, why not?" So I did that and they, it went like viral, you know? I'd say, well, just like the first thing I did that was viral, and then that just kinda made the rounds. That was kinda the first thing that really picked up steam.
42:23 H. Foley? Damn. Sick. The whole thing.
42:27 Speaker 02 It's so funny because like every comedian wanted to be a rock star at some point in our lives. And like, I can't do that, but I can, you know, I can call this guy dumb or whatever.
42:37 H. Foley? And the girl you fell for was 10 years older and she was the engineer.
42:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:41 H. Foley? Man, that's hot.
42:42 Speaker 03 She was rad.
42:44 H. Foley? That's awesome. And then how did it unfold from there?
42:47 Speaker 02 Oh, I'm sorry. What was the purchase? Did we ever get to the purchase?
42:49 Speaker 03 Oh, the purchase was probably my Cadillac. It was like.
42:53 H. Foley? What was the check for?
42:55 Speaker 03 Uh, I think it might have been from my label or something like an advance check.
43:00 H. Foley? Ooh, that's how they get you.
43:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's how they get you.
43:02 Speaker 02 That advance, oh, that's, I don't know much about the record industry, but that advance will come back to bite you in the end.
43:06 H. Foley? I like how you said you were always pretty good with the money. The first thing you'd do with the engineer is go get a caddy.
43:12 Speaker 03 It was a 1980 El Dorado.
43:15 H. Foley? It's got the horns on it in the front.
43:17 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
43:18 H. Foley? Really?
43:19 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:19 H. Foley? Oh, my God, dude.
43:21 Speaker 02 What color was it?
43:22 Speaker 03 It was black. Black and red pens.
43:24 Speaker 02 That is it. That if there's, if there's, if anybody's meant to drive that car, it is 100% yellow.
43:29 H. Foley? And where's that, where was, where would that be parked? Where were you based out of?
43:32 Speaker 03 Man, I was in Nashville.
43:34 H. Foley? Okay, so you moved to Nashville at this point?
43:36 Speaker 03 Moved to Nashville.
43:36 H. Foley? Drummer goes with you?
43:38 Speaker 03 Drummer stayed in Greenville.
43:39 H. Foley? Stayed in Greenville?
43:40 Speaker 03 Which I'm still trying to get him to move to Nashville.
43:43 H. Foley? But he's with you?
43:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, he's still with me.
43:44 Speaker 02 But he's just, he's based out of there. He's at his home.
43:47 Speaker 03 He just commutes. He just likes living in Greenville. Uh, his wife and her family are there and they just had a little baby. So he's, he's got deep roots in Greenville. So he just commutes. He doesn't mind doing it. Um, I mean, it'd be easier on everybody if he was in Nashville, but, you know, maybe someday.
44:04 Speaker 02 It is what it is.
44:05 H. Foley? Yeah, all good.
44:05 Speaker 03 But the, the caddy would be parked outside. I was renting a house for 1,500 bucks a month, me and my girlfriend at the time. And, um, you know, that was, that was the biggest thing was like. My grandfather kinda taught me about these pneumatic devices, you know, to make people really remember you, make them stick, you know? Like, big cowboy hat, you know, big belt buckle.
44:27 H. Foley? Sure.
44:28 Speaker 03 Shiny boots, whatever it was, um, and the Cadillac was part of that.
44:32 H. Foley? Mm-hmm.
44:33 Speaker 02 A statement.
44:33 Speaker 03 I was like, if I'm somewhere, if I'm recording at a studio, if I'm working on somebody's record, they're gonna know I'm in there, cause this car's parked out front, you know? I was the only guy driving around in this Eldorado.
44:43 H. Foley? How old are you?
44:44 Speaker 03 At this time, I was probably like, 21, 22.
44:47 Speaker 02 Now, was this, that's so sick, dude. Was this like, uh, was it like, completely, fully restored, or was it beat up? Like, what was the condition of it? Did you buy it like, fully redone, or in mint condition?
44:59 Speaker 03 It was in Middletown, Pennsylvania.
45:01 Speaker 02 No shit?
45:02 Speaker 03 And I found it online. It was, uh, $3,000.
45:06 H. Foley? Alright.
45:07 Speaker 03 And it had like, I think, 30,000 miles on it.
45:10 H. Foley? What was the advance? Can we ask you that?
45:12 Speaker 03 The advance, I can't, I can't remember, it wasn't anything too special.
45:15 H. Foley? Under 10 grand?
45:16 Speaker 03 No, I think it might've been more than that.
45:18 H. Foley? Alright.
45:19 Speaker 03 But, again, that's how they get you.
45:20 H. Foley? That's how they get you. Damn.
45:22 Speaker 03 Huh.
45:23 H. Foley? That's how Kippee got me.
45:25 Speaker 02 That's how you're still paying it off. Dang.
45:29 H. Foley? I got a show in Greenville tonight. Matter of fact.
45:33 Speaker 02 Pays pork steaks, and I get 10%.
45:35 H. Foley? Yeah, what's a pork steak? I went right over that. What's a pork steak?
45:39 Speaker 03 What's a pork steak? Uh, it was just this big cut of meat, dude.
45:42 Speaker 02 I'm with you. You had my interest, and now you have my attention. Oh man, he's got a great laugh, too.
45:51 Speaker 03 Oh, it was great.
45:52 H. Foley? Alright.
45:53 Speaker 03 Jesus. Yeah, we had a good time. Those pork steaks, they, they sent us home with some, and they made this huge stain in our van that just never went away. Massive.
46:04 Speaker 02 So you're, at that point, you're still in the town and country?
46:07 Speaker 03 This was our, uh, we had a Ford Econoline, we got a great deal on, 2014.
46:11 Speaker 02 The rose in it, right? It's like the church van, kinda.
46:14 Speaker 03 Exactly.
46:15 H. Foley? Do we have a manager at this point? Someone handling all this stuff?
46:17 Speaker 03 I think at this point, we did have a manager. My first manager was, uh, a lady named Steph, and it was Warren Haynes' wife. So Warren Haynes from the Allman Brothers Band, Government Mule, and, uh...
46:29 Speaker 02 No kidding?
46:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, he kinda took a, took a chance on us, and was producing a record for us, and, um, you know...
46:38 Speaker 03 Steph and myself, we ended up having a falling out. It just wasn't really working.
46:42 H. Foley? Mm-hmm.
46:42 Speaker 03 And, uh, you know, that relationship really never got mended back together, but, you know, I still love them very much, but, uh...
46:51 H. Foley? Man, how cool is this? It's like, we're, we're, we're watching the, the biopic right in front of us.
46:55 Speaker 02 I know.
46:56 H. Foley? It's insane.
46:56 Speaker 02 It's crazy, dude. I'm so enamored by it.
46:59 H. Foley? I know, it's crazy. Alright, so you, you go through that with the manager.
47:06 H. Foley? When, when do you get the check where you're like, "Oh shit"?
47:09 Speaker 02 When are you kinda like, not set, but you're like, "Alright, I'm, I'm... You, you got some wiggle room."
47:16 Speaker 03 Right. I'd say like, pre-pandemic, um, like 2020.
47:22 Speaker 02 2020, 'cause your album, it was like, your, what, your first album was when? 2018?
47:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, first album was 2014.
47:30 Speaker 02 2014.
47:30 Speaker 03 And...
47:31 H. Foley? The Grammy was 2020.
47:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:33 H. Foley? Right?
47:33 Speaker 03 So around then...
47:34 Speaker 02 That's when really...
47:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, I had a little juice and, um, I had enough saved up, I was able to buy a house.
47:40 Speaker 02 Great.
47:41 Speaker 03 You know?
47:41 H. Foley? Bought a house in Nashville?
47:42 Speaker 03 I have a down payment. I was in Mount Juliet.
47:44 H. Foley? Okay.
47:45 Speaker 03 So right outside of Nashville. And, um, you know, and then the shit hit the fan with the pandemic, but we were still able to, you know, keep everybody on for like nine months.
47:57 Speaker 02 It's great, man.
47:58 Speaker 03 You know, we got a little bit of that government cheese.
48:00 H. Foley? Mm-hmm.
48:01 Speaker 03 We were just scraping by, man.
48:03 Speaker 02 For sure.
48:03 Speaker 03 It was rough times.
48:04 Speaker 02 We were doing the same thing, dude. Huh, okay.
48:08 H. Foley? And now you're killing it.
48:10 Speaker 03 Things are good.
48:13 H. Foley? Any kinda cheese I want now.
48:16 Speaker 03 I mean, you know, hell, like even, like I said, that's how they get you, you know, and I've, I've, uh, been through a number of those.
48:25 Speaker 02 A number of those situations.
48:27 Speaker 03 And just had to claw my way out of them, you know?
48:30 Speaker 02 Fuck, I love that.
48:31 Speaker 03 There's only, only one way through it is to do it.
48:32 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. Um, how many, uh, you know, okay, typically, you know, you're, you're such a man of, of cool. What if I, this is how,
48:41 H. Foley? Pretty cool dude.
48:41 Speaker 02 This is how dorky I am. You're a man of cool. He's got me slipping out of my seat over here. About to take a run at the guy. Uh, I'm trying, this is how, this is how much of a dork I am. I'm trying to read the label on that shirt so I can buy it when he leaves.
48:57 Speaker 02 And I can't make it out. I'm like, that doesn't look like Levi's. And I'm like, I'm literally going, can I sell that to my wife or is that too western?
49:04 Speaker 03 Carhartt.
49:05 Speaker 02 It's a car, I'm a Carhartt man. Everybody, I'm a Dicky's and Carhartt man. Everybody knows that.
49:09 Speaker 03 You gotta, you gotta get the vintage Carhartt though.
49:11 Speaker 02 Vintage Carhartt.
49:11 Speaker 03 Cause then it's worn in right.
49:13 Speaker 02 Damn. Uh, okay. How many guitars do you own?
49:16 Speaker 03 Way too many, man. It's gotta be like seventy plus.
49:21 Speaker 02 Seventy?
49:22 H. Foley? No kidding. You play them all?
49:24 Speaker 03 I do. Yeah. I mean, like my studio, I've got a lot of guitars there. I've got a lot that were gifts, guitars that, you know, it's, they're kind of, you know, I'm, I'm really OCD, so I've got them like in different places. Like the ones really special to me are, you know, kept very close and the other ones, a lot of them are like in storage. Or, you know, I have like Flight Eight guitars, guitars that I'll check under the plane and guitars that I'll leave overseas, you know?
49:54 H. Foley? Leave overseas?
49:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
49:56 Speaker 02 So like when you're going, you don't have to travel with them?
49:57 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
49:58 H. Foley? Where do you leave that?
49:58 Speaker 02 That's fuck, that's like what assassins do with guns.
50:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:02 Speaker 02 That's what-
50:02 H. Foley? No shit.
50:03 Speaker 02 That's what John Wick does. He goes and checks in at the Citadel or whatever.
50:07 H. Foley? Citadel.
50:09 Speaker 02 I'm an idiot. I don't know if you've picked up on that.
50:11 H. Foley? The Continental.
50:12 Speaker 02 Continental. Citadel's the one in, in Europe.
50:15 Speaker 03 The Citadel was a big part of our origin really because Bill Hahn, who I told you about, Bud Light all day, the man. Bill went to the Citadel with a, a rider, uh, Jameson Clark. And Jameson Clark was in Nashville and he gave our demo to our agent, Braden Roundtree, who's still my agent today. So like, had that not happened, you know, cause you gotta really get an in.
50:41 Speaker 02 Sure.
50:41 Speaker 03 This was at William Morris Agency and-
50:44 H. Foley? Shout out to him.
50:44 Speaker 03 Shout out to William Morris.
50:45 Speaker 02 It's our boys.
50:46 Speaker 03 And my great grandfather's name was William Morris King. Or my grandfather's name. Yeah.
50:50 Speaker 02 No shit.
50:51 Speaker 03 So we went up there and got like ripped, like we got shit hammered and then went into that meeting like the next morning. Uh, this is when I'm like eighteen.
51:01 Speaker 02 Rock stars.
51:02 Speaker 03 And they didn't give us a meeting upstairs, but he met with us in the lobby and-
51:07 H. Foley? Yeah, we just had that.
51:09 Speaker 02 We were just also not letting the main premises.
51:13 Speaker 03 First gig Braden ever booked for us was at SeaWorld.
51:18 Speaker 02 No way.
51:19 Speaker 03 In Orlando, yeah.
51:20 Speaker 02 Was it like you guys were just playing and people were walking by type thing? Like you were just like, just the band, cover band?
51:26 Speaker 03 In between Shamu, like weird play. It was, it was the worst.
51:31 H. Foley? How was the check on that?
51:33 Speaker 03 Check wasn't bad. It was worth, it was worth driving to Orlando for.
51:35 H. Foley? Sure. So you got your own studio now? Is this at the house?
51:41 Speaker 03 No, it's, it's actually, it's my old place. And it's, you know.
51:45 H. Foley? The old house that you bought with, you put the down payment on?
51:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:48 H. Foley? Turned that into a studio. Now you got the new place.
51:50 Speaker 03 Now I got a new place, me and my wife.
51:52 H. Foley? Good spot?
51:53 Speaker 03 It's a good spot. We're in, we're in the good part of town now.
51:55 H. Foley? No kidding? You got a pool?
51:57 Speaker 03 No, the old place has a pool though, like this in, an indoor pool.
52:01 H. Foley? An indoor pool?
52:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's like this.
52:03 H. Foley? What was this down payment?
52:07 H. Foley? You made it sound like you were scraping like fifteen hundred bucks together.
52:09 Speaker 03 I got a, I got a great deal on the place.
52:11 H. Foley? No kidding?
52:12 Speaker 03 And this was in 2020.
52:15 Speaker 03 And this is before.
52:16 H. Foley? Kind of hickory chip.
52:17 Speaker 02 Yep. Coolest dude I've ever met. What are you talking about?
52:19 H. Foley? No way you're twenty.
52:21 Speaker 02 I know.
52:23 H. Foley? You gotta be like three hundred.
52:24 Speaker 02 Dude, I literally remember walking into that, when we were trying to go to that pop-up show, I walked in and he was saying something super cool on the, on the mic, like between songs.
52:31 H. Foley? Burgess!
52:33 Speaker 02 And some guy leaned over next to me and went, "Oh, what's up? I love R U garbage." I'm like, "This is the coolest night of my life." And then the bouncer's like, "You gotta go." "All right, man, I'll see you later."
52:42 Speaker 03 Oh, man.
52:43 Speaker 02 I was so close. I'm like, "I'm in. This is the, I'm like, I'm seeing the coolest fucking guy. I'm getting recognized." And then the guy's like, "Yeah, your buddies aren't allowed in." I was like, "The big one can't, the big one, the big guy can't come in?"
52:55 H. Foley? He ain't gonna fit.
52:56 Speaker 03 I hated so much that that happened.
52:58 H. Foley? No, we're joking. We're teasing you.
53:00 Speaker 02 And it wasn't you. It was, it was Gillis. Gillis was like, "Yeah, come on by." He had two passes and he invited like thirty-five people.
53:07 Speaker 03 We'll get you next time.
53:08 H. Foley? Shout out to Gilli.
53:09 Speaker 02 For sure.
53:10 H. Foley? Ah, that's funny.
53:11 Speaker 02 Sick. Okay, huh.
53:13 H. Foley? So you got the studio. You got the house.
53:14 Speaker 02 Okay, what's like a day, right? You're not, just say you're like in between, are you, so you're like heavy touring, you had mentioned?
53:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, we tour a lot.
53:21 Speaker 02 What's like, I guess like that's just the musicians. You're just, are you, you guys are like forever on the road, right? Is there a break coming up in 2026 you're looking at?
53:30 Speaker 03 I mean, you know, like, so like this last year, I had like a, had a manager, you know, screw me over pretty bad. Business manager. It was just kind of this perfect storm. Business manager not saying no enough, manager being inept, everything just kind of creating this perfect storm of fuck that just like really slammed at my front door. So the way that I was raised is like, we gotta get through this, you know? So I was like, say yes to everything. I'm doing every private gig. I'm gonna be on the road. You know, and me and my wife both agreed, like, we don't have kids or anything yet, so I've just been hustling my ass off, just trying to.
54:14 Speaker 02 Work through it.
54:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, and also trying to be creative and put out a record and trying to have some catharsis. So like in that time, like, you know, I sold a guitar and I bought a Karmen Ghia. So when I'm home, that's kind of what I do is zip around in my Karmen Ghia.
54:31 H. Foley? What's a Karmen Ghia?
54:32 Speaker 03 It's a car Volkswagen made it, but it was.
54:35 Speaker 02 How do you spell it?
54:36 H. Foley? You sold a guitar?
54:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
54:39 H. Foley? It was, that was worth as much as a car?
54:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, but like, you'll see the car, it's like.
54:44 Speaker 02 How do you spell Karmen Ghia?
54:46 Speaker 03 K A R R M A N.
54:50 H. Foley? Started with a G.
54:52 Speaker 02 Karmen Ghia. I thought it was Karma Ghia. Okay. A little old school guy.
54:56 Speaker 03 So they call it, they call it the poor man's Porsche.
54:58 Speaker 02 Yeah. So you sold a guitar?
55:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
55:02 Speaker 02 And bought that. Was that like a one for one?
55:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, pretty, pretty much.
55:06 Speaker 02 Seems like an expensive guitar, if we're being honest with you. Calling balls and strikes here.
55:10 Speaker 03 I got a, I got a good deal, you know, it was, it was just kind of something I did off the radar, off the books, because I needed a toy.
55:17 Speaker 02 Do you have something, some place to put your?
55:19 Speaker 03 Yeah.
55:20 Speaker 02 Focus?
55:20 Speaker 03 Because my, I needed something to tinker with, because I've just been driving myself crazy and like, my Cadillac's been with my uncle down in South Carolina. He's been doing a number on it.
55:30 H. Foley? Driving it around?
55:31 Speaker 03 No, no.
55:32 Speaker 02 Fixing it.
55:32 Speaker 03 He's been fixing her up.
55:34 Speaker 02 How many cars? Driving around. This is Marcus King's car.
55:39 H. Foley? He's got the glasses. He's trying to pretend he's you, he's got the glasses on.
55:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, he's been fixing it up, but like, you know, he's, he's busy and I'm, I'm like, I'm touring, so like, don't worry about it, you know, no rush, but um.
55:55 Speaker 02 Huh, what's uh, okay, so you say, this is in, this is in Nashville, this car, you, you wake up, what's like an off day in Nashville looking like for you?
56:05 Speaker 03 So, me and my wife just like to sit on the porch, I gotta have a cigarette in the morning.
56:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, you do. What kinda heater's you on?
56:12 Speaker 03 Uh, American Spirits.
56:13 Speaker 02 Okay, I pegged them for an American Spirit guy. What color, yellow?
56:16 Speaker 03 Uh, these, which are like, light blue.
56:19 Speaker 02 Okay.
56:20 Speaker 03 But, you know, anytime I tell somebody blue American Spirits, they always bring back the wrong ones. But, whatever color blue you would say this is.
56:28 H. Foley? They're the only one, American Spirits that I like. The yellow ones, I have something about them, I, I don't know.
56:32 Speaker 03 I don't like them either.
56:33 H. Foley? Yeah.
56:33 Speaker 02 I'm off the heaters.
56:34 H. Foley? They take forever.
56:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, you guys both quit smoking, right?
56:36 H. Foley? I'm back on it.
56:37 Speaker 02 He's back on it.
56:43 Speaker 02 Uh, yeah.
56:44 H. Foley? I'm not eating, I'm trying to lose weight, so.
56:45 Speaker 02 I'm, I'm nine months off the heaters.
56:46 H. Foley? One for one.
56:47 Speaker 03 Nine months, God bless you.
56:48 Speaker 02 Maybe a misstep out in LA two weeks ago, don't tell my wife. Uh, okay, alright, so you wake up, heater on the porch, cup of coffee?
56:56 Speaker 03 Oh yeah.
56:57 Speaker 02 Heater and a cup of coffee, taking the day. You setting an alarm, or you just getting up when you get up?
57:02 Speaker 03 Uh, when I'm home, honestly, man, like, me and my wife, we're like, we're like old folks, man, we go to bed like eight o'clock.
57:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, kinda nice sometimes, right?
57:10 Speaker 03 We get up like six or seven, my wife's got pigeons, she goes out and feeds them, no kidding.
57:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's not classy.
57:17 H. Foley? Anything monogrammed, anything monogrammed, like is your, is your, is your like?
57:21 Speaker 02 Probably everything.
57:22 H. Foley? Your bedspread monogrammed?
57:24 Speaker 03 Um.
57:24 H. Foley? Does it say like MK on it?
57:26 Speaker 03 I, I, I recently bought some monogrammed pajamas.
57:31 Speaker 03 And that was me doing something nice for myself.
57:33 Speaker 02 That's good, treat yourself.
57:34 Speaker 03 But when I got them back, like, you know, they monogrammed them, but like, they stitched it, and it like, they stitched the pocket shut.
57:42 H. Foley? Hey, put the heaters in there.
57:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, I can't put the heaters in my pocket, yeah, so.
57:47 Speaker 02 Okay, and uh, what's on, you know, what's on the rider?
57:51 Speaker 03 On the rider in my dressing room?
57:52 H. Foley? Yeah.
57:53 Speaker 03 Um, so it depends on whether my wife's coming or not, when, when my wife is there, she likes a still rosé, she likes a black cherry white clause.
58:03 Speaker 02 God man, talk about the duality, I want a still rosé, and give me some black cherry white clause, in case I wanna fight tonight.
58:10 H. Foley? Something French. Something French or forty-two and a couple of Four Loko's.
58:16 Speaker 02 What? The old stuff. I wonder what the energy juice still in it.
58:20 H. Foley? A switchblade comb. What?
58:21 Speaker 03 Yeah. New, old stock. Four Loko's.
58:24 H. Foley? I like that.
58:25 Speaker 03 So.
58:25 H. Foley? A still rosé.
58:26 Speaker 03 And me, I do the, I do the N A Heinekens.
58:29 Speaker 02 Cause you're sober, right?
58:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm sober.
58:31 Speaker 02 Good for you, man.
58:31 Speaker 03 I smoke, uh, smoke my pot, though. Keeps me sane.
58:35 H. Foley? That was very Greenville.
58:36 Speaker 02 I know. Smoke my pot. Smoke my pot, as you know. Easy, simple man.
58:42 Speaker 03 As you do.
58:43 Speaker 02 How long you been off the sauce?
58:45 Speaker 03 Um, this time going like since February.
58:49 Speaker 02 Okay.
58:49 Speaker 03 And before that, it was like a year.
58:51 Speaker 02 Good for you, man.
58:52 Speaker 03 I mean, it's, it's been kinda stop and go, but here, like this last time, I just, I don't have any desire to do it again, you know?
58:58 Speaker 02 It's good to hear. That's, uh, as someone who also struggles with it.
59:01 Speaker 03 I just wasn't good at it.
59:03 H. Foley? I'm horrible at it.
59:04 Speaker 03 I just, I was really into like benders, you know?
59:08 H. Foley? Yeah.
59:09 Speaker 03 And I would go off for a week at a time.
59:11 Speaker 02 Yeah. What was the, what was your poison? Did you, what was the shot and a beer type guy?
59:15 Speaker 03 Shot and a beer, that's a good time. But on the road, I would make, we called them MK ultras. And it was, uh,
59:22 Speaker 02 Okay. This guy, this guy plays for keeps.
59:25 Speaker 03 Cause you forget everything.
59:26 Speaker 02 Keep going. I picked up on that.
59:29 Speaker 03 So it was a Topo Chico, Grey Goose vodka and grapefruit juice. So it's like a Greyhound, but with some fizz.
59:36 H. Foley? Yeah.
59:37 Speaker 03 And they go down easy.
59:38 H. Foley? Yeah. And MK Ultra.
59:40 Speaker 03 Two, two solo cups and just mixing yourself. I would just pound those. And I mean, I could drink a beer in like a second flat.
59:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
59:49 Speaker 03 So I would just pound beers and drink those. It was pretty great. But I got into, I got into the other stuff, you know, when I was like eighteen.
59:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
59:57 Speaker 03 I remember being at a festival called the Get Down in Pumpkin Town.
1:00:01 H. Foley? Okay.
1:00:02 Speaker 03 Playing. And, um, you know, I had a set to do and I was just too fucked up to do it. So that's when, you know, the booger sugar came into play.
1:00:10 Speaker 02 Straighten you up.
1:00:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, straightened me out. Played a great set, I think. And then I kinda had to dance with that for.
1:00:19 Speaker 03 Like seven or eight years, you know? And uh, just, just got pretty, I thought that I could do cocaine in a classy way, you know?
1:00:28 H. Foley? You and me both, brother.
1:00:29 Speaker 03 Cause I'd seen, I'd seen it done. I'd seen like the classy parties, like people were drinking wine, and they'd have like one little tray and they would just go around. It's like, this is nice.
1:00:38 H. Foley? I remember Stevie Nicks saying that she used to, she used to have a, a gram of cocaine in her, in her boot at all times, and just would do little whatevers. I wish you could just do that.
1:00:47 Speaker 02 You guys know guys can't, alright? It's well documented, you can't.
1:00:52 Speaker 03 Do y'all know people, cause like, I, I've, I have bandmates that are like this, that can do sober cocaine, like, without even having to drink first.
1:01:00 Speaker 02 I've never met anybody that-
1:01:01 H. Foley? I can do that.
1:01:02 Speaker 03 That's insane to me.
1:01:03 H. Foley? I can do that.
1:01:04 Speaker 03 You know, like, I know people that-
1:01:06 Speaker 02 It's not a talent show.
1:01:08 H. Foley? But I know, I know, I know people that could do it and then put it away for, for like, I'm gonna save the rest of this for tomorrow. Can you do that?
1:01:14 Speaker 03 No.
1:01:15 H. Foley? That's insane.
1:01:16 Speaker 02 Most people that have to stop doing it can't do, like, you know, most people go, I don't do that anymore.
1:01:20 Speaker 03 I've done that before, but, because I had a meeting the next morning, and I had to carry the buzz the next morning if I was gonna sleep at all. And I have a little head stash-
1:01:29 H. Foley? There you go.
1:01:29 Speaker 03 Wake up, take one down, and then get me to a meeting.
1:01:33 Speaker 02 Tutte scuroski.
1:01:34 Speaker 03 Tutte rute.
1:01:35 H. Foley? Yeah.
1:01:36 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:01:36 H. Foley? Alright.
1:01:37 Speaker 02 Alright, alright, man, we just took a deviation in the fucking-
1:01:41 H. Foley? So, front porch cup of, front porch cup of coffee and a smoke, okay?
1:01:45 Speaker 02 Living that sober life, dawg.
1:01:46 H. Foley? Back to clean living.
1:01:47 Speaker 03 We're back on clean living.
1:01:48 Speaker 02 So, the rider, so your wife will have some, uh, some rosé, and, uh, the black cherry white claws? For you, what's, what's it looking like? You got your, you said your and a-
1:01:56 H. Foley? Any snacks that you like?
1:01:57 Speaker 03 Uh, what do we, what have we been doing lately? We like, uh-
1:02:03 H. Foley? What's your sweet tooth?
1:02:04 Speaker 03 Me, man, we love, uh, peanut M&M's.
1:02:09 Speaker 03 There's always pinning M and Ms around.
1:02:11 Speaker 02 Talking about Dancing with the Devil.
1:02:12 H. Foley? Anything fruity? Are you a Nerds Clusters guy? Have you gotten into them?
1:02:15 Speaker 03 Never gotten into those.
1:02:16 H. Foley? Stay away from them.
1:02:17 Speaker 03 Sure.
1:02:17 Speaker 02 If you got a problem with the boogers, you're gonna have a problem with them.
1:02:20 H. Foley? Dude, they're so good.
1:02:22 Speaker 03 I'm like a rock hash used guy, rock hash used, dark chocolate.
1:02:26 H. Foley? Okay, a little sea salt, you like a little sea salt?
1:02:29 Speaker 03 Sea salt on the chocolate.
1:02:30 Speaker 02 Gentlemen. Touch a sea salt, it'll blow your hair back.
1:02:32 Speaker 03 Yeah, man.
1:02:33 H. Foley? It's alright.
1:02:34 Speaker 03 Stuff's good.
1:02:35 Speaker 02 Okay, and then so like now that you're, you know, you're not partying, you do the, you do the gig, you're back, you know, you're tour bus that night to the next town, right?
1:02:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, cigarettes are on the rider, actually.
1:02:46 Speaker 02 How, well, how many?
1:02:47 H. Foley? Really?
1:02:47 Speaker 03 I just get a pack.
1:02:49 Speaker 02 So you know there's a pack there, you got a pack in the holster.
1:02:51 H. Foley? No kidding? That's pretty smart thinking.
1:02:53 Speaker 02 So not, nothing too extravagant?
1:02:55 Speaker 03 Nothing too crazy.
1:02:56 H. Foley? Do you like a nice dinner? You like going out and having a nice dinner?
1:02:59 Speaker 03 Love a good steak dinner.
1:03:00 H. Foley? Good steak dinner?
1:03:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:01 H. Foley? You a baked potato man?
1:03:03 Speaker 03 Baked potato man, like a twice baked.
1:03:06 Speaker 03 You know, we love like a St. Elmo's in Indianapolis, that kind of thing.
1:03:09 Speaker 02 Wow, we're big fans of that.
1:03:10 H. Foley? We did a shrimp cocktail, you like the shrimp cocktail, alright.
1:03:13 Speaker 03 Spicier the better.
1:03:14 H. Foley? Yeah, oh, that'll open you up.
1:03:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's the best.
1:03:17 H. Foley? Talk about booger sugar.
1:03:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, right?
1:03:20 Speaker 02 It's so funny, man, talk about three fat dirtbags, I like St. Elmo's. Oh, I love St. Elmo's. Three fat dirtbags will find a...
1:03:29 H. Foley? It's not the Playboy man saying, like, "I know that shrimp cocktail."
1:03:34 Speaker 03 Oh, man.
1:03:35 Speaker 02 Oh, God. It's just like, that's so classy, that's like, I like going to get a nice steak down in town, we'd like put our best shirts on and we're like, we're yelling at each other to act right when we're in there?
1:03:46 H. Foley? I like that it's already in the sauce, I don't gotta dip, it's just sitting in there. Those are big boys, too.
1:03:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:51 H. Foley? I don't know where they get them, we're in the Landlocked State.
1:03:56 H. Foley? Uh, you pee in the shower?
1:03:57 Speaker 03 Hell, yeah.
1:03:58 Speaker 02 Hold on, back to that, how you get your steak cooked and what's the cut of steak? You sit down, what's the cut of steak?
1:04:02 Speaker 03 New York strip, medium rare.
1:04:04 H. Foley? No kidding, New York strip?
1:04:05 Speaker 03 Sauteed onions.
1:04:06 H. Foley? Sauteed onions?
1:04:08 Speaker 02 Little bit of flares, guy, that's one of those fucking stick out pieces.
1:04:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:12 Speaker 02 Who's got the sauteed onions? It's Marcus King. You don't fucking forget it. There's, there's sauteed onions on a table, you know Marcus King's around here somewhere. Ah, damn, okay, very nice.
1:04:24 H. Foley? So you're peeing in the shower, you brush your teeth in there?
1:04:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:27 H. Foley? You got your toothbrush in there?
1:04:29 Speaker 03 Toothbrush is in there.
1:04:30 H. Foley? Ooh.
1:04:31 Speaker 03 That's always the power move.
1:04:32 Speaker 02 Oh, that's not great though. Leaving it in there is not great.
1:04:35 Speaker 03 No.
1:04:36 Speaker 02 Although they've done, they've done studies that any, doesn't matter where in the bathroom it is, it's open to the same bacteria.
1:04:43 H. Foley? Bad news.
1:04:43 Speaker 03 Something's gonna happen.
1:04:44 Speaker 02 There's just something weird to me of like, I get in the shower, my sister used to do it, so I'd like, I'd get in the shower, and then like, I would get it wet.
1:04:52 Speaker 03 Hmm.
1:04:52 Speaker 02 And then like, she would, you, I'm like, that's fucking grody to me. That's nasty. But, if it's just you and your wife, I get it's different.
1:04:59 Speaker 03 Well, see, at our house, I kinda have the downstairs.
1:05:02 Speaker 02 Love that. So it's just you, you got your own little domicile.
1:05:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, so nobody else is really in there.
1:05:06 H. Foley? Was this the, wait, the shower, you mean?
1:05:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:05:09 H. Foley? How's that broken up? The bedroom's upstairs, master bedroom, you gotta...
1:05:13 Speaker 03 The main floor.
1:05:14 H. Foley? Okay.
1:05:15 Speaker 03 She's, I mean, my wife's, she's, uh, messy.
1:05:20 Speaker 02 Really?
1:05:21 Speaker 03 Drives me crazy.
1:05:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, a lot, a lot of these broads are.
1:05:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, these broads, let me tell you.
1:05:25 H. Foley? I'm the messy one.
1:05:26 Speaker 02 Messy broads.
1:05:27 Speaker 03 And I'm, I'm really meticulous, I like my space really neat.
1:05:30 Speaker 02 Same way.
1:05:31 H. Foley? No kidding.
1:05:31 Speaker 03 So all my stuff's downstairs, and my sauna, I work out in my sauna, and then the shower's right there.
1:05:37 Speaker 02 You got the sauna at the house.
1:05:38 H. Foley? Alright.
1:05:39 Speaker 02 Is it like, built in, or did you buy like, one and it's like?
1:05:42 Speaker 03 I bought a, a cheapo one, it was like fifteen hundred dollars on Amazon.
1:05:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, I got, I got one too.
1:05:46 Speaker 03 But it's an infrared, and I sit in there, it's great.
1:05:49 H. Foley? Hmm.
1:05:50 Speaker 03 I got a cold plunge, Bert Kreischer gave me a cold plunge.
1:05:53 H. Foley? There you go.
1:05:53 Speaker 03 Shout out, Burt.
1:05:54 Speaker 02 Shout out, Burt.
1:05:55 H. Foley? Shout out to Burt with the cold plunge. He's done more for cold plunging. Yes, he has. The man.
1:06:02 Speaker 02 He's on a bit of a tear at the moment, I don't know if you've seen pictures.
1:06:05 H. Foley? Oh, is he?
1:06:05 Speaker 02 This guy's going after it, he's drinking.
1:06:07 Speaker 03 When I was talking to the bonfire guys, we were talking about my last time off the wagon, and Jay says, "With Bert Kreischer, I'm sure," and it was, it was actually with Burt.
1:06:15 H. Foley? Yeah.
1:06:16 Speaker 03 It's like, a couple of years ago.
1:06:17 Speaker 02 And there's just, I mean, he's the machine, it's the story, but like, it's just fun drinking.
1:06:22 Speaker 03 Oh, he's the best.
1:06:23 Speaker 02 It's just, we're going out on the road with him, and it's just like, it's a good time.
1:06:26 Speaker 03 God bless you.
1:06:27 H. Foley? We were in Tennessee with him, we ended up at a frat party, and that was, that was, it was awesome. It was the coolest, it was the coolest, it was the coolest night of our lives.
1:06:34 Speaker 03 I'm sure.
1:06:34 H. Foley? And man, the last night we were with him, the porosus hadn't just come out, but that was our first time drinking it, man, that was going down too smooth, and I was hammered.
1:06:44 Speaker 03 Man, he's...
1:06:45 H. Foley? Falling through a hotel in West Virginia.
1:06:47 Speaker 03 Oh, man. God, he's the best. Like, I remember, first time I met him, I was like hungover. Um, and I showed up at his house just in rough shape, you know? And I told him, "I'm in rough shape, buddy." He was like, "I'll set you up."
1:07:01 H. Foley? Yeah.
1:07:02 Speaker 03 He took good care of me.
1:07:03 H. Foley? He's the best.
1:07:03 Speaker 03 He had like a Keurig machine, but for like, uh, cocktails.
1:07:08 H. Foley? Of course he does.
1:07:09 Speaker 03 Which I'd never seen anything like that. And then, me and him just went-
1:07:12 H. Foley? An IV of Greyhound?
1:07:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, we went beer for beer on the podcast, and we talked for like, three hours.
1:07:16 Speaker 02 Yeah. I've, I've, I've, I've watched that. A very, uh, very, very good episode, yeah.
1:07:20 Speaker 03 You can see me getting more and more drunk.
1:07:23 Speaker 02 There's like a line where you like, start straightening out, and then you teeter the other way.
1:07:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:07:26 Speaker 02 You're like, you're like, "You know, for sure."
1:07:27 Speaker 03 And you know what I had to do the next day? Uh, I had to speak at a, like a Sober Nation event. So the first thing I had to do when I walked in there was like, "Hey, I'm hungover, and the thing about-"
1:07:40 H. Foley? Stay away from Bert Kreischer.
1:07:43 Speaker 03 The thing about the wagon is, you fall off, you get back on. You know, I had to do that whole speech. But, yeah, that was a dark day.
1:07:49 H. Foley? Hmm.
1:07:50 Speaker 03 In his defense, he didn't know I had to speak at a Sober Nation.
1:07:53 H. Foley? Yeah, Burt's the best. I'll tell you, he, he, he has like this fatherly, just feel good around him. You know what I mean? Just the best. Him and Leanne.
1:08:02 Speaker 02 I mean, listen.
1:08:04 H. Foley? Where are we at?
1:08:07 Speaker 02 Most interesting man in the world, for sure. Couple of questions, you open your eyes underwater in the pool?
1:08:14 Speaker 03 Hmm. I gotta say no.
1:08:17 Speaker 02 No to that one.
1:08:18 H. Foley? How do you feel about the rotisserie chicken?
1:08:20 Speaker 03 Love it.
1:08:20 Speaker 02 Love it.
1:08:21 Speaker 03 Okay, big fan.
1:08:22 H. Foley? There you go.
1:08:22 Speaker 03 My wife, too.
1:08:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:08:24 Speaker 03 I knew, I knew I was gonna marry my wife, she was on Molly, in a field, at a festival. It's like our third date, and she ate a whole rotisserie chicken with her bare hands.
1:08:33 Speaker 02 Yeah. Good for her.
1:08:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:08:36 H. Foley? That's it.
1:08:37 Speaker 02 Will you be the rotisserie chicken of my life?
1:08:41 H. Foley? Will you dance at a wedding?
1:08:45 Speaker 03 If I'm drinking, which I'm not anymore, so.
1:08:47 H. Foley? Gotcha.
1:08:48 Speaker 02 Uh, do you do karaoke and if so, do you have a go-to song?
1:08:52 Speaker 03 Last time we did it, I did "The Rooster" by Alice in Chains.
1:08:55 Speaker 02 Wow.
1:08:56 Speaker 03 My wife hosted a after-bash thing where they did karaoke at this bar in Charleston. And I got up and I sang "The Rooster" with my trumpet player.
1:09:04 H. Foley? That's awesome.
1:09:05 Speaker 02 It's a good time.
1:09:06 H. Foley? Do you have a favorite cover?
1:09:08 Speaker 03 Favorite cover? Uh, "Ramblin' Man," Allman Brothers.
1:09:13 Speaker 02 You're an Allman Brothers guy.
1:09:15 Speaker 03 I am.
1:09:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, through and through, right?
1:09:17 Speaker 03 Big time.
1:09:17 H. Foley? Can't beat that.
1:09:18 Speaker 02 Uh, what do you call, like, a gentleman's club? You know, you know, if you were going.
1:09:25 H. Foley? Where people dance.
1:09:26 Speaker 02 What were you saying, like, let's go to the...
1:09:29 Speaker 03 I'd say strip club.
1:09:30 Speaker 02 Strip club, okay. That's the middle, that's the middle. Gentlemen's club, strip club, titty bar. Titty bar's a bad look.
1:09:36 Speaker 03 Titty bar, yeah.
1:09:36 Speaker 02 Titty bars, titty bars. You've, you've been to the strip club too much when you start calling it a titty bar.
1:09:41 H. Foley? You said it before, but how would you naturally say it? Is it ground beef or is it hamburger meat?
1:09:45 Speaker 03 Ground beef.
1:09:46 H. Foley? Okay.
1:09:46 Speaker 02 Gentlemen, uh, you got name-brand luggage?
1:09:51 Speaker 02 You got good luggage?
1:09:52 Speaker 03 I've got vintage luggage.
1:09:53 H. Foley? You're a vintage guy?
1:09:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:55 H. Foley? How much was that shirt?
1:09:56 Speaker 03 This was probably like 20 bucks.
1:09:58 Speaker 02 I heard him say new, old stock.
1:10:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:00 Speaker 02 Which is, which is, that is, that is a very specific thing to know in vintage, correct? Yeah. New, old stock is, it was made at the time, but it's never been used.
1:10:12 Speaker 03 Right.
1:10:13 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:10:13 H. Foley? Oh, no kidding.
1:10:14 Speaker 02 So it was made in the 70s or 80s, 90s.
1:10:16 H. Foley? How does that happen?
1:10:16 Speaker 02 But never been sold, I don't know.
1:10:18 H. Foley? Sitting in a warehouse?
1:10:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, people just...
1:10:19 Speaker 02 Yeah, stores, whatever.
1:10:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:21 H. Foley? Do you have like the old luggage, like the handle thing?
1:10:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, there's one of my suitcase, I got a duffel bag. I've got this great leather duffel bag and it, the bottom zips and I can put my boots in there. And, uh, my big luggage is like a, it's like a wardrobe, uh, or like a...
1:10:38 H. Foley? I got you, like it folds down and...
1:10:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, and it opens up and then you unzip it and when you close it up, it looks like a suitcase. It was made by American Tourister in the 70s, 60s and 70s.
1:10:49 H. Foley? And how many pairs of boots do you have?
1:10:52 Speaker 03 Man, I love cowboy boots.
1:10:53 H. Foley? So you have a bunch?
1:10:54 Speaker 03 I have a bunch.
1:10:55 Speaker 02 He's prefacing to be a lot.
1:10:56 H. Foley? When you go out on, when you go out on the road, do you just bring one pair?
1:10:59 Speaker 03 So, me and the band have a wardrobe closet on the road. So, everything's just there.
1:11:04 H. Foley? Nice.
1:11:05 Speaker 03 It's like a little, you know, house.
1:11:07 H. Foley? So you're just gonna grab it?
1:11:08 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:11:09 Speaker 02 And is that, huh, who's choosing that and when is that chosen? Like, what you're wearing that night, or is it the same every night? Is it just like, hey, I have five shirts I pick from?
1:11:19 Speaker 03 It's kind of a variation. Like, we went out, like, we've been on the road a long time with Chris Stapleton.
1:11:24 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:11:25 Speaker 03 And he wears the same thing every day.
1:11:26 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:11:27 Speaker 03 And there's a lot of peace in that. And I have kind of a variation of the same thing.
1:11:31 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:11:31 Speaker 03 But it's, just, you'd be surprised, just that one thing you don't have to think about.
1:11:35 Speaker 02 I'm right there with you.
1:11:36 Speaker 03 You know?
1:11:37 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. I have the, I have a, I have three things and it's a very, it's like a Black Dicky's jacket. It's a, you know, a Carhartt shirt, it's all the same.
1:11:44 H. Foley? Jack White did that infestingly for the, for, yeah, for a long time.
1:11:48 Speaker 02 Hmm. Well, you put your hand on the wall when you're peeing at a urinal.
1:11:52 Speaker 03 I will.
1:11:53 Speaker 02 Really?
1:11:53 Speaker 03 I, one time, uh, I was in the Bahamas, 'cause my manager has a house down there.
1:11:58 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:11:59 Speaker 03 And I noticed that every urinal I went to, they had like a, a pad, like a cushy pad on the top of every urinal. And I finally asked somebody, it's like, that's just for anybody that, you know, needs to rest their head.
1:12:11 H. Foley? Rest their head?
1:12:12 Speaker 03 I said, well, now, this is living.
1:12:13 Speaker 02 That's a, that's a motion I can get behind.
1:12:16 Speaker 03 These guys are leaning their head against this pad on top of the urinal.
1:12:19 Speaker 02 That's crazy to me.
1:12:20 H. Foley? Are you a cologne guy?
1:12:22 Speaker 03 There's one cologne I like, and it's a John Varvatos. And it was given to me, 'cause I've known John a long time and...
1:12:30 Speaker 02 Do you know John Varvatos?
1:12:31 Speaker 03 I do.
1:12:31 Speaker 02 What?
1:12:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:33 Speaker 02 How?
1:12:33 Speaker 03 I met him through a friend of mine who, uh, he actually, one of the...
1:12:37 Speaker 02 This is how stupid I am, I thought he was, I thought he was just like a... I thought it was like Louis Vuitton or whatever, I thought he was just like an old famous good guy.
1:12:44 H. Foley? I knew you were a vampire!
1:12:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:47 Speaker 02 I get him.
1:12:48 Speaker 03 I met, I met him through a mutual friend and, uh, he, uh, I think we were doing like Fallon or something and he, he got me in the band, you know, looking right.
1:12:58 H. Foley? No kidding.
1:12:59 Speaker 03 And he had this cologne, I was never really a cologne guy, I used to do like Petrouli oil.
1:13:03 H. Foley? Really?
1:13:04 Speaker 03 And I smelled it and I really liked it.
1:13:06 H. Foley? You were a Petrouli guy?
1:13:08 Speaker 03 I was, in high school, it was rough.
1:13:09 H. Foley? Oh, that was the way, didn't have any friends. What are you doing with that?
1:13:13 Speaker 03 Smelling like wood chips.
1:13:14 H. Foley? Oh my god!
1:13:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, no good.
1:13:17 Speaker 02 Uh, okay, I mean, how many, uh, how many suits do you own?
1:13:22 Speaker 03 Suits, that's another thing, um...
1:13:24 Speaker 02 Cause you have like, I've seen you in like the vintage suits and stuff.
1:13:26 H. Foley? It was going into Kill Tony last year, they were real sharp.
1:13:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:13:29 H. Foley? We were in an elevator behind you.
1:13:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, we saw you, I was looking, I'm like, there's fucking, we were sitting in the window, fucking there's Marcus, yeah.
1:13:34 Speaker 03 I love my western suits.
1:13:36 H. Foley? Yeah.
1:13:36 Speaker 02 How many of those do you think you have?
1:13:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, closet full.
1:13:39 Speaker 02 Closet full, yeah, good for you.
1:13:41 H. Foley? Walk-in closet at the house?
1:13:42 Speaker 03 The wife does, yeah. My stuff's kinda dispersed.
1:13:45 H. Foley? Gotcha.
1:13:46 Speaker 03 You know?
1:13:47 H. Foley? Gotcha.
1:13:47 Speaker 02 Back to the boots, how many do you think you have? Fifty?
1:13:51 Speaker 03 Fifty's high.
1:13:52 Speaker 02 Fifty's high, okay.
1:13:53 Speaker 03 I'd say probably like, ten or twelve.
1:13:54 Speaker 02 Ten or twelve.
1:13:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:13:55 Speaker 02 Oh, that's...
1:13:56 H. Foley? Can you wear them fresh, like, can you get a pair, like, say you got a show, tonight?
1:14:00 Speaker 03 Right.
1:14:00 H. Foley? Uh, you go, see a new pair of boots you like, can you throw them on and go play, or do you gotta break them in a little bit?
1:14:06 Speaker 03 Yeah, my dogs are really fussy.
1:14:07 H. Foley? Okay.
1:14:08 Speaker 02 Man, what a way to put that.
1:14:10 Speaker 03 I got a, I got a guy...
1:14:11 H. Foley? Short the encore, huh? My dogs are barking.
1:14:14 Speaker 03 My dogs are barking. I got a guy in Nashville who, uh, makes a lot of my boots now, he just...
1:14:20 H. Foley? Makes them?
1:14:20 Speaker 03 Yeah. This guy named Wes, his company's called Music City Leather, and he makes them in his basement.
1:14:26 H. Foley? No kidding?
1:14:26 Speaker 03 And he's just, you know...
1:14:28 H. Foley? Does it, can they break them in for you, or no? That's something you have to do on your own?
1:14:31 Speaker 03 See, like, the more you're willing to spend on a pair of boots, the less the break-in period's gonna be.
1:14:36 H. Foley? Gotcha.
1:14:37 Speaker 03 And whenever I talk to people about buying cowboy boots, like, I've got every rung, and like, you know, I don't wanna name any names, but like, the cheaper ones, they're... Like, I can't go buy them off the shelf and go play a gig, or my feet'll be hurting.
1:14:51 Speaker 02 What's a chea- but no names are, what's a cheaper one? Like, a hundred bucks, two hundred bucks?
1:14:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, like, five hundred bucks.
1:14:57 Speaker 02 Five hundred bucks.
1:14:57 Speaker 03 You don't really wanna spend less than that on cowboy boots.
1:14:59 H. Foley? What's the most you've ever spent?
1:15:02 Speaker 03 Four thousand dollars.
1:15:03 H. Foley? Yeah!
1:15:05 Speaker 03 That's what I'm talking about.
1:15:06 H. Foley? That's what we're looking for.
1:15:08 Speaker 03 Get a call from the accountant.
1:15:10 Speaker 02 The hell did you do?
1:15:11 Speaker 03 What are you doing? And I was like, I said, look, this is a write-off. And they said, no, you can't do this as a write-off, you know? It's really only something like, this is literally the example they gave me was, just like Lady Gaga's meat dress would be a write-off because she can't wear that out in public. And I was like, no, no, no, these boots.
1:15:29 H. Foley? I ain't wasting a good New York strip.
1:15:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, so these boots are blue, they're suede. You cannot, I cannot wear these boots outside.
1:15:36 Speaker 02 So they're only worn for work?
1:15:37 H. Foley? Ah, yeah.
1:15:38 Speaker 03 Just for performing. And I said, you write them off.
1:15:40 H. Foley? There you go.
1:15:41 Speaker 03 And they said, well, we better not catch you wearing them at the grocery store or something.
1:15:44 Speaker 02 That's also a tough one, you get caught in the fucking, your blue suede boots, dude.
1:15:49 H. Foley? These ain't the ones I was talking about. It's another pair.
1:15:53 Speaker 02 Uh, I mean, I, listen, I gotta call it, this guy's walking, I mean, I love, he's something, he's all class. You know? What are you thinking?
1:16:02 H. Foley? He's trash, baby. He's a hundred percent garbage and we love it.
1:16:06 Speaker 03 Thank God.
1:16:07 H. Foley? Are you kidding me?
1:16:08 Speaker 02 Man, so good.
1:16:09 H. Foley? Mr. Marcus King, what a home run. Absolutely fantastic. Joe, one, one last question. Are you a fast food guy?
1:16:16 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
1:16:16 H. Foley? What do you like? Me and you, just me and you.
1:16:19 Speaker 03 I mean.
1:16:20 H. Foley? We'll cut this.
1:16:21 Speaker 03 I mean McDonald's.
1:16:22 H. Foley? You're Mickey D's guy.
1:16:23 Speaker 03 Classic. McDonald's, double quarter pounder, filet of fish.
1:16:28 H. Foley? The filet of fish kicker.
1:16:31 Speaker 02 If there was any question if he's trash or not.
1:16:33 Speaker 03 If there was any question, there it is.
1:16:34 Speaker 02 There it is, the filet of fish kicker.
1:16:36 H. Foley? Marcus King, the brand new LP Darling Blue is out right now. Buddy, congratulations. Unbelievable tale. We love you so much.
1:16:43 Speaker 03 Thanks for having me.
1:16:43 H. Foley? Anything else you want the folks out there to know?
1:16:46 Speaker 03 Just, thanks for having me, man, that's it.
1:16:49 Speaker 02 Love it, buddy. Yeah, appreciate you, man.
1:16:51 H. Foley? Gang, we love you. We'll see you next week.
1:16:52 Speaker 03 Peace.
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