The Team House 2024 Year in Review

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:10Speaker 02

  Special operations.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Covert ops. Espionage. The Team House. With your hosts, Jack Murphy and David Park.

• 1:31Jack Murphy?

  Hey folks, this is going to be our year in review pre-recorded episode. So you guys are seeing this a few weeks after we recorded it. And we just use it, we do one of these year in reviews every year. And basically just to highlight all the different guests we had over the year and maybe bring some attention to some episodes you may have missed. Or folks who are just sort of finding the podcast this year in 2025 can watch this and maybe get a little idea of what they might be interested in.

• 2:02Jack Murphy?

  But overall, I mean, I don't know what you guys thought, but I was not to pat ourselves on the back, but like I thought I was very happy with all the guests we had on this year. I thought like it's a really, I mean, how many episodes was it? Like 68, 66? And a good 67 and a good mix of foreign special ops guys, CIA, special forces, Rangers, Marsoc, Delta, some other spooky characters, you know, New Zealand SAS and some federal law enforcement, DEA, FBI, ATF, all in there this year. So it was a pretty good variety, I thought.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure. And that's, you know, one of the things that we really enjoy doing is is highlighting all the different people throughout the community.

• 2:53Jack Murphy?

  And some journalists, one or two, and historian.

• 2:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:58Jack Murphy?

  So yeah, a lot of different types of folks in there and all kinds of different life experiences. So we'll jump into it going episode by episode. Episode 252 was our first one for 2024. Mike Holtermann, who served in Marsoc. That was a great interview. He's with the Honor Foundation, which they run a transition program. And the last I knew it was for special ops veterans, but they're trying to start to get it going for conventional forces as well. And it sounds like they have a really good program. Like I wish it was around when I got out of the military. And so it sounds like they're doing really good things there.

• 3:41Jack Murphy?

  253 Travis Sanford. After, after months, if not years of joking about it, we got a special ops weather guy on the show and he was really cool.

• 3:53Speaker 04

  Didn't come true.

• 3:54Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 3:54Speaker 04

  Jack's dream realized.

• 3:56Jack Murphy?

  It's kind of the unicorn that we we had to find um. And but he was really cool. I mean, the dude has a Bronze Star for valor in Afghanistan. I mean, he was in the thick of it with the Marsoc guys. Like, that was a really, like, interesting illuminating episode.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Fascinating, yeah, yeah. And it really shows you the the breadth of the types of things that you can get into that people don't normally think of. You know, like, you know, there are all the military jokes about pogs, you know, people other than grunts. And whatnot, but it but it really shows you that there are a myriad of jobs for a myriad of interests and a lot of them do very interesting things.

• 4:37Jack Murphy?

  Absolutely. Uh, two fifty-four was Louis Ruda, CIA officer. Actually, one of my favorite episodes.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  My favorite.

• 4:47Jack Murphy?

  Uh, one of my favorites of the year. Super smart guy, uh, lots of experience. And he's he's an armchair historian also, uh, reading about the Roman Empire every day.

• 5:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was great. I mean, there's nothing like a salty CIA officer.

• 5:04Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  He just doesn't give a fuck really anymore. You get like good soundbites, not even just soundbites, the quality of the entire interview is great.

• 5:13Jack Murphy?

  I I would love to have him on again, actually, because he's just such a knowledgeable dude. Two fifty-five was Kaz, who's the ATF undercover dude.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  Kaz and Frank, yeah.

• 5:25Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, and Frank was back on that episode too. And those were the guys that were infiltrating a neo-Nazi biker gang. And I mean, there's a lot of wild stuff in that in that episode, but one of them is, you know, the motorcycle gang was putting them on polygraphs to try to figure out if they were. Cops or not, so they had to like undergo training to fool the box so that they could get into this, you know, crime gang. Uh, go check that episode out, two fifty-five. That was a really cool one. Uh, two fifty-six, Lindsey Bruce SAS. Uh, I, he, he was great. I, I'm just like struggling because I can't

• 6:09Jack Murphy?

  believe like a year's gone by since we did that episode. Um, but really cool guy, really put together dude. And, um, you know, talking about like the lineage of like his father being in the military and then him going into the military and his career and his service. Um, hope you guys will go and check that one out. We had a, a number of SAS interviews this year.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  I would say he probably had the best background.

• 6:33Jack Murphy?

  Lindsey, well, I, I like the, I like Lindsey is the one who has a normal sort of like military family.

• 6:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:40Jack Murphy?

  Background.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  No, I mean his background during the show.

• 6:43Jack Murphy?

  Oh, oh, his, uh,

• 6:44Speaker 04

  It was like his music.

• 6:45Jack Murphy?

  Studio, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, I was thinking about like the actual background of the guys. Like I noticed with most of the SAS guys, the SAS NCOs, like super blue collar dudes.

• 6:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:55Jack Murphy?

  They all come from like very humble beginnings. You know, we talked to the one dude who was poaching pheasants.

• 7:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:01Jack Murphy?

  To survive.

• 7:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can't see there being a ton of NCOs in the SAS that are like going to like Eaton with like Prince Harry and stuff.

• 7:09Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, the officers, but yeah, not the NCOs. I don't think so, man. Um, but incredible guys. Um, two fifty-seven, Dan Runyon. He was the commander on ODA, uh, five, five, five, triple nickel, um, going into Afghanistan. One of the, either the first or the second ODA to go into Afghanistan, depending on, uh, what we're going to argue on, on a given day. Um, but that was a great episode. He was also in the invasion of Iraq. Uh, and then, uh, I also this year invited Dan to, uh, well, I didn't invite him, I just facilitated, but the Special Forces Association wanted someone to speak at, um, Ground Zero, the Horse Soldier Memorial for nine eleven.

• 7:50Jack Murphy?

  And, uh, Dan very graciously volunteered to come in and, uh, deliver the speech.

• 7:58Jack Murphy?

  Which is great because he was one of the original guys to go into Afghanistan. Um, that worked out really well.

• 8:04Speaker 04

  It's pretty, uh, pretty wild, uh, resume. Hundred six, uh, one sixtieth.

• 8:10Speaker 03

  Sade one sixtieth, yeah.

• 8:12Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, uh, and now he's on like an ultra marathon runner.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:17Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Uh, two fifty eight was Bill Flavin, uh, special forces officer. Um, he's actually, I interviewed him for We Defy, uh, about, cause he was part of the Greenlight Program. Amongst the many other things that that guy did during his career that was interesting and, uh, and you know, Bill has a mind like a steel trap, like, I don't, I probably asked like one or two questions to that whole interview. It was just like Bill going, plowing through it. It was awesome. It's awesome though, when people are so, uh, adamant and, and excited to tell their story. Uh, two fifty nine was Eddie Chavez, Ranger, one of the, again, first or second JTAC and Ranger Regiment, depending on how we're going to argue it. Um, I don't, I don't think Eddie cares what, who is who, but,

• 9:02Jack Murphy?

  um, he was really cool, really good story and Eddie runs a, um, a podcast on a, himself. Um, I'm, I'm struck, I can't remember the name of it offhand. Uh, but, um, operator.

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• 9:45Jack Murphy?

  Debrief.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:47Jack Murphy?

  And Eddie is, I think he focuses mostly on interviewing, um, Ranger Regiment guys. So I really recommend going and checking out his channel. I think he had, uh, Greg.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  Greg Kokeran is one of his first, first, uh, episodes.

• 10:02Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, go check out Eddie Chavez's channel. Interesting guy, doing, doing good stuff, having all these Rangers on there. Two sixty, Jack Devine.

• 10:12Speaker 03

  Legend.

• 10:13Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, CIA legend.

• 10:14Speaker 04

  Heavyweight.

• 10:15Jack Murphy?

  Been around the block a few times.

• 10:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, fascinating, uh, and that was just part one, right?

• 10:21Speaker 04

  Uh, no, that was part two, I believe.

• 10:23Jack Murphy?

  No, that was part one. Part two was way later.

• 10:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. So that was part one, cause we couldn't, I mean, a man with a career like that, like you, you can't even really get into the meat of it. And, you know, for, for people like that, what's really fun for me is not just their own personal history, but their breadth of knowledge and their insight into, you know, what's right with the CIA, what's wrong with the CIA. Cause Jack was involved in almost every, uh, counter-surgency or paramilitary operation, uh, covert action, I guess, that the CIA took part of.

• 11:00Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, we talked in, in that part one, I think we talked about Chile, and I think we covered Iran-Contra, and I think we may have gotten in Afghanistan. That may be part two.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  I can't remember, yeah.

• 11:12Jack Murphy?

  It might, it might have been part two, um, where we got in Afghanistan. Uh, two sixty-one, Alejandro Villanueva, our Ranger officer, also former NFL player.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:23Jack Murphy?

  And now a farmer.

• 11:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:25Jack Murphy?

  Growing, uh, I think exotic fruits, as I recall.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:30Jack Murphy?

  Super nice guy.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:31Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 11:32Speaker 03

  Super humble. Um, yeah, I mean, he was, uh, uh, West Point, uh, played football in West Point, and then, uh, was a Ranger, and then.

• 11:42Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  And then.

• 11:44Speaker 04

  Had a pretty significant career.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  Had, had a very significant, yeah.

• 11:47Speaker 04

  Pro Bowler.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, got out.

• 11:50Speaker 04

  Really good.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  You know, did the combine, right? I think, and.

• 11:53Speaker 04

  Well, he did, no, he actually didn't, I think, because he got in when he was older. He got into the NFL and he was like twenty-five or something.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  Right, right, right, right.

• 12:00Jack Murphy?

  And he's from Spain, too.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. He, he said he didn't, he didn't play football till like he was twenty.

• 12:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's right, yeah.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  Eighteen times.

• 12:06Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, because they don't, they don't have American football in Europe.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, they have that, that other thing.

• 12:10Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 12:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:11Jack Murphy?

  Whatever it is. Um, yeah, super cool guy. Uh, 262 Jay Dorleus, uh, third special forces group dude, former team sergeant. He's the Green Beret Chronicles, right?

• 12:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jay also has a podcast, Green Beret Chronicles.

• 12:27Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, go check his channel out.

• 12:29Speaker 04

  Spicy, spicy stuff.

• 12:30Jack Murphy?

  Lots of spicy content on, on Jay's channel. Um, but he was a, he was a cool guy. I hope we can get him back in the studio again sometime.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jay's awesome.

• 12:39Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, super cool. Uh, 263 was Eyes On versus the Team House. So it was me, Dave, Andy Milburn and Jason Lyons. And so Eyes On, for anyone who hasn't been paying attention, is the associated podcast with the Team House, uh, where our friends Andy and Jason cover mostly like more current events, geopolitical stuff, things that are going on in the news that week.

• 13:06Speaker 04

  We also have Mick Mulroy now, who's like a regular guest. Heavy hitter.

• 13:11Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, uh, definitely, uh...

• 13:13Speaker 04

  All Marines. I didn't do that on purpose, but I just...

• 13:16Jack Murphy?

  Thoughts and prayers.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  The best thing is, is like, we don't even have to pay him. We just give him crayons.

• 13:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. They're easy. They're low maintenance.

• 13:23Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Um, so go subscribe to the Eyes On YouTube channel if you haven't already.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  And if you are listening, the Eyes On, if you're an audio listener, the Eyes On shows come on the Team House feed still, so you don't have to do anything. Just keep your eye out.

• 13:38Jack Murphy?

  So 264 is, this is the interview I, I think I laughed the most in. Phil Cambian. That guy is a funny dude.

• 13:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:48Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, big Phil. Uh, and, uh, I mean, I, I kinda go a little ways back with Phil. We, uh, we used to work together and, uh, I met him in person in Urbil in like 2014?

• 14:07Jack Murphy?

  Feels like so long ago.

• 14:08Speaker 04

  What did you do with him? What'd you do?

• 14:10Jack Murphy?

  He was doing a documentary for like Channel 4 or something like that and I was over there reporting.

• 14:16Speaker 03

  Phil has a podcast too, right?

• 14:18Jack Murphy?

  Yes, he does. Forces?

• 14:20Speaker 04

  Shit, I don't know.

• 14:21Jack Murphy?

  I think it's called Forces. He interviews a lot of SAS guys in British paras and etc. I'm pretty sure it's like Forces or Forces Radio.

• 14:34Jack Murphy?

  But I'm sure if you guys type in-

• 14:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, Force Radio.

• 14:36Jack Murphy?

  Force Radio.

• 14:37Speaker 03

  Force Radio.

• 14:38Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, you can find Phil on there. I definitely recommend checking him out. Phil has an awesome sense of humor, if nothing else.

• 14:46Jack Murphy?

  265 Dale Bendler. Senior CIA officer, served in El Salvador.

• 14:55Jack Murphy?

  Was here in New York when 9/11 happened. Involved in all kinds of interesting stuff. It was definitely one of the more unique interviews. I think, I believe he finished his career as Chief of Station in Paris. Which is, or Chief of Station for France, which is like very rare at that time for a guy to go from like, he was a Force Recon guy, then Ground Branch, and then-

• 15:18Speaker 03

  Right.

• 15:19Jack Murphy?

  Traditional-

• 15:19Speaker 03

  Went from paramilitary to traditional, yeah.

• 15:22Jack Murphy?

  So, go check that interview out. That's a cool one.

• 15:27Jack Murphy?

  266 Jim Shorten, MACV SAG.

• 15:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:31Jack Murphy?

  That's one of the smartest guys we've interviewed, I think.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:34Jack Murphy?

  I think he might be like a Mensa member or something.

• 15:39Jack Murphy?

  Just a fascinating guy, fascinating background, and interesting service, you know, yeah, MACV SAG and also as a PJ. And, and he was also going back to layoffs looking for MIAs. Like maybe 10 years ago, not that long ago.

• 15:56Jack Murphy?

  That was, that was a really fun interview. And I think-

• 16:00Speaker 04

  And a doctor, radiologist.

• 16:02Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, that's right. And he goes meteorite hunting. I mean, just like, he's like one of those Renaissance men. And I think, I can't remember if he got recommended to me by John Mayer or Bud.

• 16:16Jack Murphy?

  But both John Mayer and Bud are doing their podcasts too. They're out there. Bud does the recon cast with a lot of Vietnam vets. Definitely, if you're interested in that, definitely worth your time.

• 16:33Jack Murphy?

  Okay, 267 Herschel Davis. That was a pretty awesome one, too.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  It was wild.

• 16:41Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, Herschel is larger than life. So he was a Navy SEAL Master Chief, service in Vietnam. And then I don't think they forced, they forced him to retire in like 94-ish. You know, that guy would still be a SEAL today if they would have let him.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:00Jack Murphy?

  That was a really cool, really unique interview. So check him out. 268, this guy was great, too. Melvin, Melvin Downs, SAS guy. Another like fascinating background. I believe his father was from Jamaica. And his mother from the UK. He goes in to, where did he start off in the conventional forces?

• 17:23Speaker 03

  I don't remember now, yeah.

• 17:25Jack Murphy?

  And then, then he goes to SAS selection and, oh, I think he was infantry.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I can't remember which unit.

• 17:33Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, no, neither can I. And some funny stories about like, you know, being a black dude in Northern Ireland.

• 17:42Jack Murphy?

  And yeah, I mean, he was a super cool guy, super interesting guy, sharing the history of his squadron and everything. It was really cool. And Melvin had, he might be on YouTube. I see him on Instagram a lot.

• 17:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:55Jack Murphy?

  So you guys should go look for him there.

• 18:00Jack Murphy?

  269 Jeff Mann.

• 18:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, fantastic. Kind of outside our normal track. I had an opportunity to meet Jeff at, I think it was Schmukon, one of the, one of the cybersecurity

• 18:18Speaker 03

  conventions, but yeah, NSA Red Team. And very, very interesting stuff.

• 18:25Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I was really happy to see like that episode got like a lot of views.

• 18:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:29Jack Murphy?

  Which, I mean, he deserves it, but.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, 126,000.

• 18:33Jack Murphy?

  Because it's a little bit offbeat for us. You always like wonder like, are people gonna care? Are they gonna watch this?

• 18:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:39Jack Murphy?

  A lot of people tuned in and it was really cool, really interesting. Two seventy, Johna Mendez, who is the chief of the skies at CIA.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, Johna was great. Fascinating interview.

• 18:50Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's, she's super cool.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, very interesting to hear about the, the process of and the development of the disguise, you know, capabilities and how, you know, how they may have worked with Hollywood and how long it took them to, to develop.

• 19:10Jack Murphy?

  To get it right.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  Fully articulated faces and things like that.

• 19:15Jack Murphy?

  I, I think her book is In True Self that came out. Um, so go check her out.

• 19:23Jack Murphy?

  Two seventy one, Ben McKelvey, he's the journalist that wrote a book about the Australian SAS. And, uh, that was an interesting episode and it was an interesting book, to say the least.

• 19:36Jack Murphy?

  And a little bit of backstory on that one. Afterwards, I got like a 10-page manifesto written by some Aussie SAS guy. Like, basically this guy was like outraged and I read through the whole thing, but he didn't address the war crimes at all.

• 19:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:53Jack Murphy?

  It was everything else.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:54Jack Murphy?

  It was like, you know, this guy has poor dental hygiene. He has body odor issues, you know, all this other stuff. Like, you know, that's not really, uh, that's not really what we were talking about there. Uh, but that was, uh, that was interesting. Um, I, I definitely recommend you guys go and, and read his book.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. And, and you know, those are like, obviously from a personal standpoint, I have some disagreements with him on some of his like ideas and it's always interesting to, you know, like what constitutes a war crime and, and, and also like talking about the challenges of operating in those environments and what separate, what separates it all. And, and it's always good. It's like when we had the, the gentleman who, you know, was the attorney for, at Gitmo.

• 20:42Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  You know, it's always good to get the other side and, and their views on things.

• 20:49Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, no, I mean, for sure. And I mean, that that stuff is still working its way through the Australian court systems, too.

• 20:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:58Jack Murphy?

  Two seventy-two, Rick Kaiser, who's a SEAL, a dev group guy.

• 21:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:03Jack Murphy?

  Another dude, like, he would probably be a SEAL forever if they would have let him. Super interesting guy. I think, does he have a book out on leadership? If I recall correctly?

• 21:19Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, Frogman Stories, Leadership Lessons.

• 21:23Jack Murphy?

  So go check out that episode with Rick. It's very, like, if you want to hear about, like, the early days of SEAL Team Six and stuff, and even the latter part, I mean, it's an interesting interview.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 21:34Speaker 04

  Shout out to Rick for that episode because his father passed away, like, literally, like, hours before.

• 21:40Jack Murphy?

  I think.

• 21:41Speaker 04

  And he still showed up.

• 21:42Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. I think his dad was in the hospital.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:44Jack Murphy?

  And his father passed away, like, that night.

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:47Jack Murphy?

  I felt bad about that. But yes, we do appreciate, you know, Rick going the extra mile there, man. I'm sorry to hear about your dad.

• 21:57Jack Murphy?

  Two seventy-three.

• 21:58Speaker 03

  Another episode that is, like, outside the norm.

• 22:02Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  But fantastic.

• 22:04Jack Murphy?

  Brian Baker, he's a B-1B WISO, I think it's Weapon Systems Officer.

• 22:13Jack Murphy?

  So I met him at, where did I meet him?

• 22:15Speaker 03

  We met him at our Christmas party last year.

• 22:17Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:18Jack Murphy?

  He's, he's over in the, he belongs in the same American Legion I do, I think. And that was an interesting story. He was flying bomber missions against ISIS. Doing bomber runs in Syria. Like, that was, yeah, again, like, an interesting perspective I never would have heard before.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:38Jack Murphy?

  They were flying out of, like, the UAE or something?

• 22:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, the one thing that stood out with there was, like, when they thought, like, a couple MiGs or Su-35s were after them.

• 22:45Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 04

  Like, Russian jets and, you know, sounded pretty, pretty crazy, pretty hairy.

• 22:51Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, there's some close calls, and they were dropping, like, beyond danger close because it was like the Kurds were gonna get, like, overrun and, like, they're gonna be dead either way at this point.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:01Jack Murphy?

  You know, so they were dropping so close. Yeah, for a totally different perspective. Uh, yeah, two seventy-three with Brian Baker. Uh, two seventy-four was Eric Velez, uh, service in the FBI. He ran, I believe it was called the Directorate of Intelligence, um, which like coordinates the training and stuff like that for, for the FBI.

• 23:26Jack Murphy?

  But he also was a normal FBI special agent. And, uh, I mean, yeah, I remember one of his stories was about a, a little girl getting kidnapped, which was pretty horrible.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:39Jack Murphy?

  Another, uh, but there are some, some entertaining stories where after the FBI, he became the chief of security for Disney. And, uh, it's that, that was a twenty-four seven job.

• 23:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:50Jack Murphy?

  Literally because there's Disney's in like America, France, and there's one in Japan, I think.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  I think so, yeah.

• 23:56Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. So just as one's closing down, the other one is opening.

• 24:01Jack Murphy?

  So yeah, go check out that one with Eric Velez, who's cool. Two seventy-five, Dante Paradiso, who I swear to God, he was giving me a fake name.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, me too. I thought for sure. Dante's Paradise, right.

• 24:13Jack Murphy?

  I'm like, dude, do I really have to call you this? Like, what, what, what's up?

• 24:17Speaker 03

  I mean, it's better than Dante's Inferno, but you know, yeah.

• 24:20Jack Murphy?

  But no, that's it. Apparently that's his legal name. So, uh, Dante was a Department of State Foreign Service Officer. Really good guy. Uh, he wrote the book we have up here, The Embassy. And he was present for, uh, like some of the, the bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. And the late nineteen nineties. Almost got blown up there. Uh, I think he might've been around for one of the embassy evacuations, like Liberia.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 24:49Jack Murphy?

  And, uh, and then we talked a lot, uh, he had to do with the.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  The Doha Accords.

• 24:54Jack Murphy?

  Right.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  And you know, I, this is an episode, honestly, that I am surprised does not have more views because it is such a fascinating insider's view on the Doha Accords and really how.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  You know, it's not, it's really not what it, what a lot of people think it is. Um, and I really wish more people would, would, you know, watch that episode and, and see what was actually going in, on inside those negotiations.

• 25:26Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it definitely gives you like a perspective that you, you know, I think I told them at the time, like, you're not going to get it from like the soldiers necessarily.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:35Jack Murphy?

  Unless there were like Jags or something that were assigned to that. Um, two seventy-six was our, uh, our, our self-censored video with Adam Gamal. Where he's, he's sitting right here and he has a big black box over the top half of his body. Um, that was a really cool interview though. He was, he was great.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:57Jack Murphy?

  With, uh, definitely another colorful character, immigrant from Egypt. Uh, and then served in, you know, Army Special Operations, um, doing all kinds of interesting stuff in the Middle East and in Africa. Um, that was, that was definitely one of our better episodes, I think.

• 26:15Speaker 03

  It was really good.

• 26:17Jack Murphy?

  Over the last year.

• 26:18Speaker 03

  He's got a book to the, the unit. The unit. Yup, yup.

• 26:21Jack Murphy?

  Uh, it's, it's good too. Go check it out. Um, two seventy-seven was when we had Jack Devine back on for the second time. If we didn't talk about it in the first interview, we for sure in the second one talked about the covert action program in Afghanistan.

• 26:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:34Jack Murphy?

  And we talked, I know we talked about Russia too.

• 26:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:37Jack Murphy?

  Um, so here's a little interesting, uh, foobar moment for us. As I was going through all of this, I noticed that we have two episodes labeled two seventy-seven.

• 26:50Speaker 03

  Fuck, are you kidding me?

• 26:52Jack Murphy?

  I'm totally serious. Uh, and it's, it's my fault. The, the reason why that happened was because we had one episode that I, I did pre-recorded and we uploaded. And so it's a little bit out of the, out of the normal sequence of events and that's why it got.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  That's Mike Adams?

• 27:08Jack Murphy?

  It's Mike Adams, yeah. So, um, yeah, talk about that for a moment. The, the other episode two seventy-seven with. Sergeant Major Mike Adams. Um, please go take a look at that interview. He was a 10th group guy. I think he was also first group. He was on the green light teams. He was doing all kinds of spooky stuff. Um, over the summer, Mike passed away. Um, you know, in that, that interview, you know, it's, um, it's important to, to his family. Um, Mike's also in, in We Defy. Um, so I'm, I'm, I'm gonna miss the guy. I mean, he's, he was a grumpy Sergeant Major, but had a big heart and, um, I'm sorry that we don't get to talk anymore. Um, I'll

• 27:51Jack Murphy?

  miss him. He, he fought cancer for a long time.

• 27:57Jack Murphy?

  Uh, 278 was Matt Stevens.

• 28:00Speaker 04

  Hold on. So you're telling me that episode 300 wasn't actually episode 300? Or it was? Cause Sergeant Major Adams was after the 300, I believe. It doesn't matter. It's just my own thing.

• 28:13Jack Murphy?

  Just leave it alone.

• 28:14Speaker 04

  It's fine.

• 28:15Jack Murphy?

  Just leave it alone, Dimitri. Just leave it alone. Um, I will go in there and I'll relabel it like episode 277A and B, you know? 277.5. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh, so 278 was Matt Stevens. He was, uh, he, he commanded red squadron and then was it the special boat team is gray squadron?

• 28:34Speaker 03

  I, yeah.

• 28:35Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Um, so he, he led both of those elements. Um, super cool guy, great stories. And he, uh, is also with the Honor Foundation. Uh, Mike Holtermann introduced us to Matt Stevens and that's how that came about.

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• 29:20Jack Murphy?

  It's cool.

• 29:23Jack Murphy?

  Oh, this guy was interesting, too. Dan McLinton, episode 279, was an Apache pilot. You found that dude, Dave, and I mean, he had cool stories from all sorts of different timeframes.

• 29:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, no, he, you know, I think, yeah, I mean, hearing about like the Apache pilots, and again, that's, you know, getting guys on here like that, and Greg and other people who are sort of doing these kind of cool jobs that you really don't hear about that often. And, man, they laid some scunion. You know, they definitely, the Apache, you know, all the assault helicopter guys and, you know, a lot of the pilots.

• 30:06Jack Murphy?

  280, Robert Young Pelton, journalist.

• 30:11Speaker 03

  A guy that was influential in both Jack's and mine kind of coming up.

• 30:17Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  You know, the world's most dangerous places and, yeah, yeah.

• 30:22Jack Murphy?

  And Pelton is working also on his own like documentary podcast series, but which I believe still has not seen the light of day.

• 30:32Jack Murphy?

  But keep your eyes peeled for that. I'm sure he has interesting people coming. 281.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  Our spiciest episode of the year.

• 30:39Jack Murphy?

  Yes, definitely the spiciest, most controversial episode of the year.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, Eric Deming, former SEAL Team Six guy. Or SEAL, or.

• 30:51Jack Murphy?

  Just use a convention.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Convention, sorry about that. Yeah, former conventional.

• 30:57Jack Murphy?

  Yep.

• 30:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. And had, you know, had a few things to say about a few things.

• 31:03Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I mean, I knew it was gonna be spicy. I didn't know it was gonna be that spicy.

• 31:09Speaker 04

  He dropped like a fucking nuclear bomb that he hadn't told anybody else in the other podcasts about.

• 31:14Jack Murphy?

  I was like, oh my god.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  Jaco smoking a source, once he got off a helicopter, so.

• 31:20Jack Murphy?

  That was, yes, that was pretty shocking. Most shocking moment in Team House history.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it was good. I remember, I remember your face, Jack, because we were on this side.

• 31:30Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  Side of the aquarium, so. You were like, wait, so you're saying he got off a helicopter and smoked a source? He smoked the first brown guy he saw and then it was a source? Still no, still no defamation lawsuit or anything.

• 31:47Jack Murphy?

  Not that, not that I've heard of. Um, two eighty-two was, uh, Pat O'Donnell, who wrote, uh, the book about, uh, basically special operations during the Civil War.

• 31:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:59Jack Murphy?

  Um, what was the book called?

• 32:00Speaker 03

  Uh, The End Vanquished. Yeah. And, uh, I mean, the book, if you, I am not a huge history book reader outside of the show, but the book reads like a novel. Uh, you know, it's a lot of firsthand accounts of, you know, a lot of, uh, the Rangers and Raiders and, you know, you know, these kind of like small elite units. And it was just fantastic.

• 32:25Jack Murphy?

  The Lincoln assassination.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  And the Lincoln, oh, boy. Yeah, um, I mean, there, there's some wild stuff in there, you know, that the Lincoln assassination was actually a plot, um, that was attempting to decapitate, uh, the Union by taking out Lincoln, like, three, the three heads of, of the Union at the time.

• 32:49Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  Um, so, yeah, fantastic. You know, Lincoln was killed, another, I can't remember who, who the other one was, but, um, like, the assailant got into the house and stabbed.

• 33:00Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:01Jack Murphy?

  I think it was the Secretary.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, Seward.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then the third guy, I think, chickened out or something. But, but the, uh, the Secret Service was able to, like, track their, track down their safe house and...

• 33:14Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 33:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was wild. Yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 04

  It didn't work, Confederates, sorry.

• 33:19Jack Murphy?

  I, I met...

• 33:20Speaker 04

  We're still here.

• 33:20Jack Murphy?

  I met Pat at the OSS Society Dinner this year, and, uh, he is working hard at work on various projects, so we'll, we'll see Pat on the show.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, he's one of our favorite historians, for sure.

• 33:33Jack Murphy?

  Uh, two eighty-three, I really liked this episode with, uh, Bill Haines, uh, Special Forces Sergeant Major. Um, some cool stories about being like a SIF guy in the Balkans, going after war criminals back in the day. But I, I mean, I think the big takeaway from that interview was actually like some leadership lessons about coaching, teaching, mentoring soldiers, um, what lines you should not cross.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Right.

• 33:57Jack Murphy?

  Uh, yeah. Um, but I mean, seriously, I mean, that, that was, that was a really good episode. Um, enjoyed that conversation.

• 34:06Jack Murphy?

  284 was another fairly off the wall episode with Dan Corbett, Navy SEAL turned mercenary, doing merc jobs over in the Middle East, in Yemen. And then he went to Serbia and he got balled up there and was in Serbian prison and they were charging him with plotting to assassinate the Serbian president.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  Which actually gave him massive street cred in prison, where everybody was giving him the fist bump, you know, like, hey.

• 34:37Jack Murphy?

  That, you should read his book if you haven't, like, it's pretty wild stuff. Pretty heedy stuff, guys. American Mercenary. Yeah. 285, this is a more subdued episode. Sidney Mulder and William Negley. Sidney is the widow of Bill Mulder, who is a SEAL Team Six operator, and William is her half-brother. And William now runs and works with Sidney to...

• 35:11Speaker 03

  Soundoff.

• 35:12Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Soundoff is a, is an app that, so one of the major considerations that people have is losing their clearance or take, you know, when it comes to seeking counseling or, you know, reaching out for help, is losing their clearance and losing the ability to do their job. So they started this app that partners all these charitable foundations from a number of different organizations with Soundoff, and Soundoff finds these therapists in different states.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  And so people are able to anonymously join Soundoff, just, you know, go to, and use whatever organization, whatever, you know, charitable organization, foundation to fund, you know, anonymous therapy essentially.

• 36:10Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, so go check out Sound Off or recommend it to people. Keep it in mind. 286, Andy Milburn. I don't think I was here for that one. You guys were discussing Libya.

• 36:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, Andy's got a vignette in his book, When the Tempest Gathers, about him being an absolute maniac and going to Libya to evacuate an American family.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 04

  And posing as a British guy.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  When he was, when he was, when basically they told them no Americans

• 36:41Speaker 04

  Right.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  can go in, can go in. And so Andy kind of suas pontes and jumps on a bird to go get them.

• 36:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, and there was like a big standoff, kind of on the tarmac and stuff, yeah.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was Italians that got him out, right?

• 36:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  Finally, they've done something right.

• 37:01Jack Murphy?

  Uh, 287, David Fielding, spooky inscom guy, uh, special forces before that. Uh, our most viewed episode this year. Um, and it's a hell of a good story. No doubt about that. Um, so probably all of you guys have watched that one already.

• 37:20Speaker 04

  Hell of a good title, too. I could finally use the fucking words.

• 37:23Jack Murphy?

  Good, uh, yeah, good, um.

• 37:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, once you put Task Force Orange into a fucking title, no matter what it is, it's like, alright, this is catnip.

• 37:32Jack Murphy?

  We'll just start putting them in.

• 37:33Speaker 04

  And just every fucking one, yeah.

• 37:35Jack Murphy?

  Uh, 288, Dave Nielsen, uh, Delta Force operator and dog handler. Um, again, another guy who had a wild, wild story. He was, he was part of that generation of guys, like, they really got put through it.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, constant ops, yeah, nonstop.

• 37:55Jack Murphy?

  Um, and losing his dog, that was, that was terrible.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:59Jack Murphy?

  Um, but it is a great interview and I hope you guys will go and check it out. It's, it's meaningful. 289 was an old teammate, uh, old guy I went through the Q course with back in the day, Alan. Shabaro, he was on the SIF in third group and is a huge jujitsu guy, martial artist. Super interesting background. Actually, I learned a lot in that interview. He had like way more army experience than I knew at the time when we were serving together. He did a lot. So probably like half of the episode though, we're talking about his trip to Palestine, which got the hackles up on some people. Yeah, I had one person write in and say that the interview

• 38:44Jack Murphy?

  made him feel unsafe. Okay, man. You know, we pissed people off with that one. And then there's another one where we had a pro-Israel woman on Eyes On and I got a nasty gram about her too.

• 38:59Speaker 04

  Patreon.com slash the Team House. But somebody's like when people leave our Patreon, they give exit interviews, like why they left. For the most part, it's everybody saying like, you know, can't afford it anymore. Whatever. There's like an option for that. And then one person's like about that Eyes On one. He's like, I'm not paying for some Zionist to tell me what like, I'm like, all right, man. Relax. Like we hear everybody's.

• 39:22Jack Murphy?

  Can't save them all, Hasselhoff.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, we hear everybody's, you know, side like.

• 39:27Jack Murphy?

  290 Chuck Simpson, SF and CIA contractor. His seventh special forces group dude. Awesome career. He was all over the place. Tours in Afghanistan. So go check it out if you haven't already. 291 was another former teammate of mine. He was, I think we went through RIP together and he was definitely in my company in Ranger Battalion, Mike Chavry. Mike went on to do awesome things after he left our company, became a sergeant major, went and

• 40:06Jack Murphy?

  worked at the JSOC Joint Medical Augmentation Unit, I believe it's called. He was on, again, stuff I didn't know about him. He got shot on a deployment in Afghanistan. I mean, he had a very interesting career.

• 40:24Jack Murphy?

  And yeah, coming up in 2025, another medic that I served with in Ranger Battalion, we're gonna have on the show. I'm excited to catch up with him. 292, Ed Bogan, senior CIA, a lot of work in Ukraine, a lot of work countering Russia. That was another one of the more informative, I guess, educational interviews that we did throughout the year. Yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 04

  It was really good. Shout out to Mark Polymeropoulos for hooking that up.

• 40:57Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Yeah, I ran into Ed at the OSS dinner also, and I was making fun of Mark Polymeropoulos.

• 41:03Speaker 04

  Perfect. Whenever you're in doubt and you need an icebreaker, just make fun of Mark Polymeropoulos or just Greeks in general.

• 41:15Jack Murphy?

  293, Simon Leek, SAS, interviewing him from the trackings, is it their jungle warfare school, specifically their tracking school in Brunei. He was in there with all the memorabilia in the background. That was super cool. He has a great background. He was, you know, the dude that was hunting pheasants. He was a poacher, I believe, in his youth, but just to eat. And then an awesome career in the SAS, and he continues to work with them. So go check out 293. 294, okay, maybe this one takes the cake for the most off-the-wall episode. Mike West, served in the Rhodesian White

• 41:58Jack Murphy?

  Infantry, the Rhodesian SAS, and then the South African Recce's. And, man, there's a guy who likes to fight.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. He, yeah, he's all about it. I mean, he's one of those, like, warriors that just doesn't...

• 42:13Jack Murphy?

  His book is right there. Mike West, Special Forces Super Soldier.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  That's not, that's not hyperbole.

• 42:24Jack Murphy?

  Go check, go check out that episode. You'll see what we're talking about. 295, another real... Real awesome guy, John Daly, uh, is a Marsoc NCO.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  Not related to Dan Daly, as we clarify.

• 42:38Jack Murphy?

  Um, yeah, he, he was really cool. He has a book out that I, I read, um, for the episode. It was, uh, do we have the title on there? Okay. Um, but you guys can go and find it on, on Amazon. Uh, is, no, oh, Tough Rugged Bastards is the book. Um, and he, he did, he served in Iraq. Um, he was in some pretty dicey places, um, in Iraq. And, um, I hope you go check that interview out.

• 43:13Jack Murphy?

  Two ninety-six was Joe Musia, uh, who himself is a former Marine. But the conversation in that episode is about the invasion of Grenada in nineteen eighty-three from a Ranger's perspective, or the Ranger perspective. Uh, he wrote a book called Cry Havoc, uh, where he interviewed all of these Rangers and put it all together and told the, like, a, a pretty complete story.

• 43:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:37Jack Murphy?

  From the call, you know, that when they get alerted to the planning process, which was, sounds fairly abbreviated, and then jump, and suddenly they're jumping into Grenada. Um, and there's some wild combat, like, there's like a, an armor engagement where like they engaged armor with recoilless rifles.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:56Jack Murphy?

  Crazy stuff, I, I didn't even know of.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:59Jack Murphy?

  Um, so I highly recommend that book, um, if you haven't picked it up yet. Uh, and, uh, if you want to go watch the interview, it's a pretty good preview. I mean, we talked about a lot in an hour and a half. Sorry, guys, my voice is starting to crack a little bit.

• 44:17Jack Murphy?

  Two ninety-seven was Eric O'Neill. He was, uh, with the FBI, FBI agent. He was one of, I think they, he used the term ghosts. They're sort of like their version of Knox. They don't wear, you know, they don't go to like the academy. They, they're like unknown and they do like surveillance operations around. And, uh, but the, the bulk of that conversation was, uh, discussing, uh, the Robert Hanson case. And he was the guy, like, if you saw the movie, he was the younger FBI agent who had to like steal the cellphone and have this stuff put on it and then bring it back and all of that. Um, so that's a super illuminating episode. You guys will really get a kick out of that

• 45:01Jack Murphy?

  one. Two ninety-eight, D'Mon Brown, author of Black People Can't Swim, uh, which is a little tongue-in-cheek. He's a former combat diver in special forces. Uh, really good guy, really nice guy.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  Great book, too.

• 45:16Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  Great book. I highly recommend his book because the book itself is, uh, you know, it's, it's his story of wanting to become a, you know, special forces and a combat diver. Uh, and not only his relationship with water and swimming, but a historical view on the black community and their relationship with water and swimming, you know, and why, you know, quote unquote, black people can't swim. Very, very fascinating, uh, interview and great guy.

• 45:49Jack Murphy?

  Uh, two ninety-nine, this one was you, Dave, Uriah Pop?

• 45:52Speaker 03

  Yep. Uh, so Uriah was, um, he was a medic in special missions unit, uh, in, in a special missions unit. Um, I mean, he had an incredible career, both, uh, special operations wise and conventional. Um, and, you know, now is into his own medical technology, uh, company and things like that. Um, but he's one of those, one of those guys that again, shows you that you can do really, really cool stuff, really amazing stuff. Um, and that was a five hours and seventeen minutes. So this is what happens when Jack isn't here. Uh, Dee sits back there and suffers and

• 46:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was, it was touch and go for a while for me.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  And, uh, and I just run off the rails, uh, you know, because like the medical field fascinates me. But no, I highly recommend Uriah's episode to see like different sides of the military and different sides of special operations.

• 46:53Jack Murphy?

  And then comes our big episode three hundred. Well, it was big for us. I don't know if anyone else really cared, but. Episode 300, we had a few friends over and we played a Dungeons and Dragons game. And it was a lot of fun. Um, and we'll probably when episode 400 rolls around, we'll do something else that's goofy like that. Um, but I had a good time and it was, uh, only four hours or so, uh, less than the, uh, what was the other one?

• 47:21Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, 15 hours. And I think the 12 hours of it is on YouTube because it got cut off. You have to restart a stream after 12 hours.

• 47:30Jack Murphy?

  But thi- this one is a little more manageable. It's, it's like, you know, uh, three hours and 49 minutes. Uh, 301, episode 301, Jamie Pennell served in the New Zealand Special Air Service. Um, he is one of the guys in that fairly famous picture of the, uh, New Zealand SAS guys in Afghanistan. Uh, if you should go check out that interview because it's a very unique perspective, um, from, you know, we don't get to hear from too many of these guys. Uh, so it was really cool to hear about his country's special ops, uh, service and.

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• 48:33Jack Murphy?

  He also, we, we talked a lot about their timing Kabul and a pretty significant firefight. They got in when the, when the Taliban, it was a hotel. Yeah. And the Taliban came and took it over or tried to, and, um, they got into a really hellacious firefight.

• 48:50Jack Murphy?

  302, Pat Lenniger.

• 48:53Jack Murphy?

  Senior CIA officer.

• 48:56Speaker 04

  This one was one of my faves too.

• 48:57Jack Murphy?

  One of my favorites also. You know, Pat is, you know, I, I used to talk to his dad on the phone once in a while. George Weniger, who, I'm sorry, we don't have a, a recorded interview on the team house with George. He was a special forces legend, lots of time. He served in Vietnam, also served all over Latin America. Even with, with other friends of mine. And then his son, Pat, served in the army and then made the jump over to the CIA. And did some really important work at the agency, some of which we were able to touch upon in the interview.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:35Jack Murphy?

  I, and he told a great story about extracting his source in Iraq.

• 49:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. Fantastic, fantastic story. Very, I mean, like Hollywood, you know, film type stuff.

• 49:47Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. Episode 303 was Chris Cappy. He is a former infantryman, had some awesome stories. And he is also the dude that does videos for the Task and Purpose YouTube channel.

• 49:59Speaker 04

  Yep. He's a big YouTuber, big star.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  Yeah. He's a great guy too.

• 50:03Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, cool dude. I, and then 304 was, was Justin Juarez, who was fifth special forces group. And again, cool story, man, about like, there's some leadership lessons in there. There's some good combat stories. And then there's just Justin's like completely eccentric hobbies.

• 50:24Speaker 03

  The guy wanted to learn how to build an airplane, so he bought a library, a little library, full of aeronautics and, and airframe and construction and everything else and learned how to build an airplane.

• 50:37Jack Murphy?

  It's no big deal. You can teach yourself to do this.

• 50:39Speaker 04

  Yeah. And they're currently building an airplane right now.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:42Speaker 04

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• 50:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:46Jack Murphy?

  KRG.

• 50:47Speaker 03

  KRG.

• 50:47Speaker 04

  KRG Kinetic. Bingo. KineticResearchGroup.com. So they're great dudes.

• 50:52Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Go check out the interview with Justin. He was a lot of fun. 305 David McCloskey on the show for the second time talking about his new novel, The Seventh Floor. David was a CIA analyst and now he writes spy thrillers. And I've read all three of them. I definitely suggest you guys go and check them out.

• 51:12Speaker 04

  I only read Moscow X and it's fucking awesome.

• 51:15Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, Moscow X probably is my favorite.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:20Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 04

  He's got a new podcast too called The Rest Is Classified. That's like doing really great. It's uh

• 51:25Jack Murphy?

  Cool.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  On audio. Check that out.

• 51:27Jack Murphy?

  Cool.

• 51:29Jack Murphy?

  Um, okay, last page.

• 51:31Speaker 04

  This show is the show that I think should have gotten more views and it didn't and I'm upset about that. So you guys should go check it out.

• 51:38Jack Murphy?

  I agree. Chris Feistl, who was a DEA agent and he was involved in breaking up the Khalid cartel down in Colombia. That was a really, really interesting episode. And yeah, I don't know why it really didn't get the attention that it probably should have. But if you're hearing about it for the first time, go and check it out.

• 52:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, and he's uh, he's actually depicted in the Netflix show Narcos as one of the DEA agents.

• 52:07Jack Murphy?

  307 Jack Barsky, who was KGB illegal, so to speak.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  A sleeper agent.

• 52:14Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 52:14Speaker 03

  As, as the popular vernacular would say, which was a really fascinating story.

• 52:22Jack Murphy?

  How he got recruited.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 52:23Jack Murphy?

  In what was in East Germany, right?

• 52:25Speaker 03

  East Germany, yeah.

• 52:26Jack Murphy?

  And then came over here and was basically a low level intelligence.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 52:32Jack Murphy?

  Officer for the KGB.

• 52:33Speaker 03

  With, with the intent of basically working his way up in society and through contacts. Sort of like, you know, do you remember like the Schindler's List? Like he starts out in the bars and hanging out with like the low level guys. And then starts working his way up. Almost, almost in that way was sort of his, you know, assignment.

• 52:53Jack Murphy?

  It's interesting. I believe there's a, there was a Czech, a Czech national who has also had that kind of job in the United States. And you know, a similar story like these guys. The problem with having a long-term sleeper agent, the guys get married.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:08Jack Murphy?

  Their wife is American, their kids are American.

• 53:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:11Jack Murphy?

  And like they become more American than than Russian, you know.

• 53:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:15Jack Murphy?

  That's probably why they end up sticking around.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  I I think the Chinese do do it right, like where they attach their operatives to political campaigns early on and, you know, get that, get that funding and and things like that.

• 53:29Jack Murphy?

  Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, there's a whole interesting thing there. I mean, the the Chinese are, they they do get ideological recruitment.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 53:38Jack Murphy?

  We we don't get very many of those.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:40Jack Murphy?

  Um, and they they go heavily after ethnically Chinese people.

• 53:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:44Jack Murphy?

  And their government has this attitude of like, anyone who is ethnically Chinese is our people.

• 53:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, and if you have family back in China, you are at the at the mercy of the Chinese government.

• 53:54Jack Murphy?

  Pretty much. Uh, three oh eight, Hugh Kia. He was a para uh in the UK military. That was a really fun episode. He does a podcast too, interviewing UK military veterans. Definitely check his interview out. Three oh nine was John Kiriyaku. Another controversial episode, perhaps, for some.

• 54:18Speaker 03

  Controversial for some.

• 54:20Jack Murphy?

  He was, uh.

• 54:21Speaker 04

  I got a lot of shit for that. I got a lot of shit when I just asked, hey, what do you think of this person? I got a lot of shit, a lot of guilt, guilt. CIA people like to guilt you. Former CIA people.

• 54:34Jack Murphy?

  You can't shame the shameless.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:36Jack Murphy?

  They, uh, but no, I I I had no problem with his with his episode and I thought it was a good conversation. John was a CIA officer who served in uh in Greece. Um, some really interesting stories about, what is it? Seventeen November. And then he, uh, as he got out of the agency, he became a whistleblower of sorts and ended up having to do some prison time. Um, so go go check out that episode and you can hear it straight from John rather than.

• 55:09Speaker 04

  Really good, yeah.

• 55:10Jack Murphy?

  Counting it. It's worth your time.

• 55:16Jack Murphy?

  Three ten, Gene Yu on the show.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  Interesting man on earth.

• 55:19Jack Murphy?

  For the second time, yeah, his second episode on the Team House and his episode, the second show, or I'm sorry, that his book is called The Second. Shot, um, please go and take a look at that. It's about, uh, when he was out of special forces and he was a civilian, he helped repatriate a Taiwanese woman who had been kidnapped in the Philippines and have her brought home.

• 55:43Speaker 03

  Fantastic.

• 55:44Jack Murphy?

  It's a wild story.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  It's a great story. And Gina's just like an amazing dude.

• 55:49Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Uh, 311, this was you guys, Jim Cisco.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, uh, yeah, Jim, um, you know, very, very interesting story with him, um, and his expertise in Afghanistan, a lot of the, uh, ops that he was running there, his sort of insight into, you know, a lot of what was going on. Um, what did you think, Dee?

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, he had a really good perspective because he was like attached to, uh, he was a liaison to Karzai.

• 56:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:17Speaker 04

  For a while. So he had a lot of that inside baseball.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. Like he was very close to Karzai.

• 56:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. Karzai liked him. Yeah. Yeah.

• 56:26Jack Murphy?

  312, Craig Jorgensen, who was a LARP in Vietnam. Awesome, awesome episode, awesome guy, great writer. Um, oh, Dave, actually, I brought that book in for you. He sent his, uh, Civil War book.

• 56:40Speaker 03

  Oh, excellent. Fantastic, man.

• 56:42Jack Murphy?

  Um, and so he, he also is, uh, writing a series, I, I think it's the, the first one is called Chasing Romeo. And it's a, oh, a series about LURPs in Vietnam that I'm really enjoying. Um, so go check out that interview. You'll love it.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was really good. And it didn't get demonetized because all of our other LARP episodes for some reason got demonetized.

• 57:03Jack Murphy?

  It's because those salty Vietnam veterans have choice words, maybe. I don't know. Uh, 313, uh, this was another episode that I wish got more attention. It deserved to get more attention.

• 57:14Speaker 03

  It doesn't make any sense to me, honestly.

• 57:15Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. Uh, Kusal Limbu, he served in the Gurkhas, uh, a very unique, colorful, historical unit. Uh, the Nepalese soldiers that served for the British government. Um, please go check that episode out, man. And, and Kusal had a interesting, I mean, a, a, a wild story. He lost both of his legs in Afghanistan, uh, during a, an IED blast. And he got prosthetic legs and now he's involved in athletics. He's, you know,

• 57:46Speaker 04

  Big golfer.

• 57:46Jack Murphy?

  Participated in like the Paralympics, the Invictus Games, uh, and, uh, yeah, and he's a big golfer now. Uh, so please go check that episode out.

• 57:57Jack Murphy?

  314, alright, I admit I am a partial to the Ranger interviews. David Waterhouse.

• 58:03Speaker 03

  Fantastic interview.

• 58:05Jack Murphy?

  That, that dude has a pretty wild story.

• 58:08Speaker 04

  Pretty credible too. He served four years, a little bit more than four years, had six deployments.

• 58:12Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, that's nuts. Again, it's that generation of guys that got put through it. And he did a documentary too that you guys can go check out.

• 58:21Speaker 04

  It's on Amazon Prime called Ranger.

• 58:23Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. 315 was the We Defy episode.

• 58:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, so we interviewed kind of an unknown author. Cappy came in to help with that interview, or Chris, Chris Cappy came in to help with that interview and, you know, we had none other than Jack Murphy sitting in the hot seat to interview him about his book.

• 58:45Jack Murphy?

  Renowned author.

• 58:46Speaker 03

  And how did you feel the interview went, Jack?

• 58:48Jack Murphy?

  Oh, really well. I thought it was the best one I've done for the book so far.

• 58:51Speaker 03

  So you would recommend the Team House too?

• 58:53Jack Murphy?

  I would recommend the Team House interview to the Team House viewers. Yes, I would.

• 59:00Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, so, and I should say thank you guys, all you who supported the book and went out and got it. I really appreciate it. The book's doing, doing well and it's getting out there and apparently it's generating some really positive conversations out there with folks. So I'm, I'm really proud to be able to, you know, put this out there for the guys.

• 59:20Jack Murphy?

  316 was Frank and Dr. Reno. They are basically, I mean Frank is a, is a, is an air force officer, but they're both academics.

• 59:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:31Jack Murphy?

  And they both go around the world and they study America's different security partnerships that we have around the world. Seeing which ones are going right, which ones are going wrong.

• 59:40Speaker 03

  Why and yeah.

• 59:41Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  Very, very good conversation. It has 5,000 views, which is just.

• 59:47Jack Murphy?

  So yeah, if you want like a really deep dive on like America's current security relationship with Ukraine and what's going on over there. Dr. Reno literally like got off a plane the day prior from Ukraine.

• 59:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:00Jack Murphy?

  And then is sitting here telling us what he saw. So if you're looking for more information about that topic, you should definitely check that episode out.

• 1:00:07Speaker 04

  I'm gonna change the title to Deadliest TFO Missions.

• 1:00:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Or just put not Task Force Orange.

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, right, right.

• 1:00:16Speaker 03

  But it'll still come up in, or outside of Task Force Orange.

• 1:00:21Jack Murphy?

  And then. Our, our, uh, 317 Wade Ishimoto.

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  Legend.

• 1:00:27Jack Murphy?

  Delta Force Intelligence Officer, one of the original members of Delta Force. He's an interview that I honestly, he's one of those guys, I would have told you, we'll never get that guy.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Jack Murphy?

  Well, you'll never see him on the show.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Speaker 04

  You're welcome.

• 1:00:42Jack Murphy?

  Hey, through, uh, his publisher, right?

• 1:00:45Speaker 04

  No, well, to me, because I made it happen.

• 1:00:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:47Jack Murphy?

  Yes, you did.

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  I just sent an email.

• 1:00:49Jack Murphy?

  Good work.

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:00:50Jack Murphy?

  Well, okay, so Wade, um, published a memoir this year. It came out maybe like a month ago called The Entoku Code. I, I read through it for the, for the show. It's definitely like, I learned things. It, it actually, a lot of the stuff that is in We Defy, like Greenlight, Blue Light, the origins of Delta Force. Wade was boots on the ground for a lot of that stuff. Like, he was the guy that was actually there. And if I had his book when I wrote mine, I would have referenced it in certain parts, you know? Um, and if I ever do an update to this, I, I will.

• 1:01:23Speaker 04

  The craziest thing about Blue Light and Delta was like how those guys were like, who had served together in Vietnam, some of them. Were like, fuck you.

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  I'm not, we're not cool anymore.

• 1:01:34Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, it's sad, man.

• 1:01:35Speaker 03

  It's sad, yeah.

• 1:01:37Jack Murphy?

  But Wade, Wade was amazing. Uh, we just kind of scratched the surface in that interview. Go pick up his book and you'll get the rest of it. Then 318 is Andrew Bragg, 82nd Airborne. So we got to level with you guys.

• 1:01:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Jack Murphy?

  The way you're seeing these episodes is not, you know, this is pre-recorded. Right after we finish recording this episode, we are going to do the interview with Andrew Bragg. So we haven't actually done, done the interview yet.

• 1:02:05Speaker 04

  It was incredible.

• 1:02:06Jack Murphy?

  It's going to be awesome.

• 1:02:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:08Jack Murphy?

  It's going to be awesome, folks. I'll tell you. He has a book out about his, uh, combat deployments. So we're, we're excited to do this interview with Andrew. And then 319 is another pre-recorded episode, but we've already recorded it. So we can say we know what's in it.

• 1:02:27Jack Murphy?

  Jason Davis was a Ranger officer and then in the Asymmetrical Warfare Group.

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, really, really interesting deep dive on AWG that a lot of people are have a surface, myself included, have a surface level awareness of, but don't really know like the deep story, how it started and, you know, and, you know, it's sort of function.

• 1:02:53Jack Murphy?

  Do you guys want a little teaser of like what's coming in 2025?

• 1:02:57Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:02:57Jack Murphy?

  I will, I'll throw a few out there. Let me pull it up here on, on our schedule.

• 1:03:05Jack Murphy?

  All right.

• 1:03:08Jack Murphy?

  So we are currently, we're, we're recording this in, in December, December 20th. And we are currently scheduled into March of 2025. So we're pretty far ahead of the, the game here. Okay. So, starting in January, our first episode in, in the new year is going to be with a guy who was apparently like a bona fide member of Al Qaeda and a CIA asset that was trying to infiltrate them. And now he like drives cabs in Staten Island. There's a documentary about him I watched. It's, it's wild. It's a wild, wild story.

• 1:03:50Jack Murphy?

  And we, we should have him in studio. That'll be very cool.

• 1:03:56Jack Murphy?

  Then we have a couple CIA officers. We have a military intelligence officer, a, I'll just say a special operations officer, Tom Gaines, the author of Quantum Dagger. I brought that up a couple of times on the show. Darrell Ute, or Ute, I apologize if I'm mispronouncing your name, 10th group guy, we'll have him on the show. My, my medic buddy from 375, a CST, another dude who worked for the NSA, another SF guy, but he wrote a book and republished, or maybe published for the first time, a memoir from an OSS guy. So that'll be really

• 1:04:37Jack Murphy?

  interesting to talk to him. Then John Letcher, who wrote a book about the Wagner Group, we're gonna have. Have him and then a SAS MI5 guy is gonna be on the show. So that's the gist of what we have coming up in 2025.

• 1:04:54Speaker 04

  Guys, let me, let me just explain something. There is no podcast on earth that gets the guests we get. I need you to understand that. Forget Sean Ryan. Forget, God bless him, Andy Stumpf and the rest of them. We are the only place to go for this type of podcast. Nobody, and I repeat, nobody gets these guests that we get. Thank you.

• 1:05:21Jack Murphy?

  There, there are, there are definitely some very unique interviews that I'm really proud that we're able to help bring them to the forefront and get them out there. I, what else? Do, do we have announcements, Dee? Do we want to tell them about?

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  So we're gonna be, we're gonna come out with a small like channel update video probably in the new year at some point, but we'll like, uh, we'll loosen it up. We'll lube you up before. Um, we're gonna be switching a little bit of how we do things. I mean, you're still gonna get the best goddamn podcast in the history of the world, maybe. Top five at least. Um, we're, we do the shows live. We always do the shows live for the most part, besides these Christmas ones. Um, we're gonna start, we're gonna continue to do the shows live, but the only, eh, the only difference will be our Patreon members will be able to access the live episodes. And we will be premiering the episodes a couple of days later on the YouTube channel, free to everybody.

• 1:06:20Speaker 04

  So if you want to be part of the conversation and watch the shows live and comment and question, and ask questions to the guests, you will have to be a Patreon member. That's patreon.com slash the team house. Where you don't only just get the team house episodes ad free and live now. You also will get eyes on episodes ad free. And you have been if you are already a Patreon member. So there's two podcasts for the price of one, I mean, I don't know, a deal.

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  In the world that's like this.

• 1:06:50Jack Murphy?

  Thank you to all the Patreon subscribers out there. You guys like keep this engine going. Um, and we really appreciate it and we, uh, we will not screw our Patreon subscribers. We're not going to take anything away from you guys. Um, but we are going to deprioritize the like YouTube is kinda.

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, YouTube's not helping us at all, to be frank.

• 1:07:11Jack Murphy?

  Uh, the, the podcast edition of the, of the show is doing great, but yeah, YouTube is not the priority anymore.

• 1:07:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. So I mean, if you want to get in on the convo during the live episodes, and if you're a patron and you're watching the shows live, you don't have to put up a super chat anymore. Like you could just ask a question in the chat and we'll ask it.

• 1:07:32Jack Murphy?

  Yup, yup.

• 1:07:33Speaker 04

  As long as it's like, you know, appropriate. Um, also we are, we're setting up a new, uh, website for merch and stuff like that. Cause the merch people that we've been using are horrific. Uh, excited to get like these next two weeks is what, that's what I'm really going to be working on. We have patches coming out with our logo, stickers coming out with our logo. If you see between Jack and Dave right now on the cigar humidor. Yeah, there's a sticker and there's a patch.

• 1:07:56Jack Murphy?

  Here's the, these are the stickers.

• 1:07:58Speaker 04

  Yeah. So look out for that website. That's another way to help support the show. Um, we're flirting with the idea that if you do become a Patreon member, you will get sent a patch, um, as a thank you. That's most likely going to happen too. And it's going to be me fulfilling them, baby. So I'm going to write you secret love letters when you join our Patreon. So yeah.

• 1:08:19Jack Murphy?

  You're going to kiss it with a lipstick on it?

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  You better believe it, baby. Yeah. Put my perfume on it.

• 1:08:23Jack Murphy?

  XO XO.

• 1:08:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. Uh, so yeah, I mean, it's still the same show. Shows will be on Fridays at eight o'clock, but they'll be premiering, not live.

• 1:08:32Jack Murphy?

  Right.

• 1:08:33Speaker 04

  Uh, so if you want to join the conversation again, I know it's, I'm shameless with my plugging, but the Patreon really is the lifeblood of the show. And we really appreciate everybody who supports the show.

• 1:08:43Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Speaker 04

  Patreon.com slash your team house.

• 1:08:46Jack Murphy?

  We got to go and run and interview Andrew Bragg in just a couple of minutes here. So we're going to call it a, uh, a year in review right there. Um, thank you again, everyone who joined us and has been with us this year and we really.

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