155. Taylor Dukes: How She Beat Cancer with Functional Medicine

Could your body shrink a brain tumor by half before surgery? Taylor Dukes is proof that it is possible. In this episode, Taylor shares her journey from medical mission trips in Africa to discovering a plum-sized brain tumor in her frontal lobe with no symptoms, which offers invaluable wisdom for anyone navigating their own health challenges. Rather than immediately rushing to surgery, she practiced an integrative approach — metabolic ketosis, methylene blue, red light therapy, and molecular hydrogen oxygen, and with the results being nothing short of remarkable, her tumor shrinking by half before surgery. Your body’s healing capacity is extraordinary when given the right tools. The question is: are you ready to discover what’s possible for your own health? Join the Ultimate Human VIP community and gain exclusive access to Gary Brecka's proven wellness protocols today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Taylor Dukes: Website: https://bit.ly/4byxTS5 Instagram: https://bit.ly/3Rii1cS TikTok: https://bit.ly/4hiQaEe Facebook: https://bit.ly/4iUS5zL LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4kW5hGq Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE PARKER PASTURES - PREMIUM GRASS-FED MEATS: https://bit.ly/4hHcbhc AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:49 Taylor Dukes’ Health Journey 1.0 10:28 Journey 2.0: Diagnosis and Healing from a Brain Tumor 19:28 Impact of Mindset and Healthy Diet 23:35 Undergoing through Different Treatments (Vitamin C, Methylene Blue Infusions, Red Light Therapy, Molecular Hydrogen Oxygen, and Metabolic Ketosis) 26:13 Elimination of Mold, Mycotoxin, Metals, and Virus 27:19 Link of Parasites and Cancer 30:52 Shrinkage of the Tumor in Half 34:55 Treating Lyme Disease 37:01 Stress-Reducing Techniques 41:05 Caring for Our Gut Health 44:48 Practical Steps Every Mom Should Know About 52:58 Taylor’s Online Community 54:50 Final Question: What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Life was good. I have a thriving functional medicine practice of my own at this point. I've met the man of my dreams. We have two children and I got the curve ball of my life. So I did the scan and they found a massive brain tumor in my right frontal lobe. And I'm like, what? You've got to be kidding because I have no symptoms.

• 0:14Gary Brecka?

  So now you're in for the journey of a lifetime.

• 0:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:16Gary Brecka?

  So tell me about that journey.

• 0:17Speaker 00

  I knew that I probably needed to get it out, but I was also like, okay, if this has been growing for years, same thing with functional medicine. The disease doesn't just happen overnight. It's drops in the bucket over time that lead to the full blown manifestation of a disease and symptoms.

• 0:29Gary Brecka?

  All cancer is a healthy cell that became metabolically sick. Why do we believe that healthy cells can become metabolically sick? But we don't believe that metabolically sick cells can become healthy.

• 0:37Speaker 00

  I knew enough about the body that I wasn't just going to like jump to surgery in fear. And I just felt led to take an integrative approach. I like saying integrative because you take the best of the conventional, the best of the holistic, and you integrate the two for the best possible outcome.

• 0:49Gary Brecka?

  We need to start thinking about being in service to the body and that everything that's going to enter your body from now on has got to be in service to you. Before your surgery, did the tumor actually shrink?

• 0:58Speaker 00

  It did. It was a miracle, which is insane.

• 1:01Gary Brecka?

  So to give the people that are listening to this hope, can you give me a little more detail about what you did on this journey?

• 1:05Speaker 00

  I think mindset is so huge and I think so many people hear the word cancer and it's a death sentence. Getting into your question of what I did is.

• 1:25Gary Brecka?

  Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, Gary Brecka, human biologist, where we go down the road of everything, anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today's guest is going to be really, really impactful for you because of the journey that she's had and now the mission that she's on. You know that I always say that I believe the most impactful people in the world and by far and large, the most impactful people I've ever had on my podcast are always those people that have solved a major problem in their life. And when they solve this problem, it puts them on a path to God's purpose for them and they go fulfilling their purpose with passion and a level of commitment that is unmatched by anyone else in the industry.

• 2:10Gary Brecka?

  And sometimes they're practitioners, sometimes they're scientists, sometimes they're soccer moms and dads that just solved a problem in their life and their level of passion and commitment goes beyond anything that you've ever seen. And today's guest is no, no stranger to that. So, welcome to the podcast, Taylor Dukes.

• 2:25Speaker 00

  Thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here.

• 2:28Gary Brecka?

  I really, I read about your story and you know, I've been watching you online and of course, you know, we, we just walked around the biohacking lab here for a while. We, like all my guests, we start running the podcast before the podcast starts, you know?

• 2:42Speaker 00

  It is next level.

• 2:42Gary Brecka?

  My team's like, say that on the, say that on the podcast, say that on the podcast. But I would really love for my audience to, to get to know you, for those that, that don't know you. And for you to talk a little bit about your journey, because I gotta say, your journey is one of the most unique, sadly, that, you know, we've had on this podcast, but I think it's going to inspire people with a lot of hope.

• 3:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I always say that people get into kind of the integrative functional medicine world because they're sick or they're smart. You know, you're sick.

• 3:10Gary Brecka?

  They're smart.

• 3:12Speaker 00

  People like you are smart. But most people and a lot of my colleagues, you know, that are functional medicine providers, they're sick. And then the, the conventional medical model fails them and that's kind of how they go on their own and do research. And so I was sick. That was my story. I was, you know, nursing major, straight out of TCU and I had the opportunity.

• 3:29Gary Brecka?

  Texas Christian.

• 3:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Texas Christian University in Fort Worth, Texas.

• 3:32Gary Brecka?

  Christians, yeah.

• 3:32Speaker 00

  Yes, let's go.

• 3:33Gary Brecka?

  Thank you, Jesus. Been a lot of Jesus on the podcast lately.

• 3:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I think God's doing something. He's waking people up. There's a lot coming to light. It's really cool to see.

• 3:42Gary Brecka?

  I think it's a spiritual shift in this country. I totally agree with you.

• 3:46Speaker 00

  So I went to TCU and I had the opportunity to go on medical mission trips abroad and it was an incredible experience, but I got really sick. So I spent time in Africa and Ecuador and I ended up getting flown back from Ecuador to the States sooner than I had planned because I had all these mysterious symptoms. And so here I am, a nurse and I'm, my whole job is to advocate for patients and I can't even advocate for myself. And so I was going from doctor to specialist, you know, they're like, try this medicine.

• 4:11Gary Brecka?

  What kind of symptoms were you having?

• 4:12Speaker 00

  So my hair was falling out. I had joint pain and let me just back up. I was never the sick kid. So to me, it seemed like everything happened overnight. But then when I look back, it was drops in the bucket that led to full blown manifestation symptoms.

• 4:24Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 4:24Speaker 00

  But I was having really bad joint pain, super inflamed. I had full body rashes, acne. I'd never had acne in my life. I'm so tired, like I would just lay in bed and I was the go go girl. I've always had energy and been super athletic, but I was really sick. And so I was going to the rheumatologist for my joint pain, you know, the gastro for my stomach and they were all like, here, try this pill, try this prescription, we'll do a colonoscopy and nobody really had answers. And so it wasn't until my mom, she kind of, I was raised in a very healthy home and we always kind of go back to our roots, you know? And so my mom was like, Taylor, this is not you. You've never been the sick kid. And so she really encouraged me to go to kind of an integrative functional medicine doctor.

• 5:03Speaker 00

  And at the time I thought, this is woo woo. This is so out there. I didn't learn any of this in nursing school, but I was so desperate that I was willing to do anything. And so she talked to me about my diet. She asked me if I was a C-section baby. She kind of traced the whole line, you know? When you went to Africa, were you given a lot of shots? And so she really took back, took me back and looked at the whole timeline. And so that ended up changing my life, my health, which changed the trajectory of my career. So after I had healed and, you know, gotten off meds, times and places.

• 5:30Gary Brecka?

  So what essentially, what, what, what did you do to heal? When you say after I healed, how did you?

• 5:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:35Gary Brecka?

  Go on that journey?

• 5:36Speaker 00

  So we looked at my diet. We completely turned around my diet and you know, here she was asking me like, you know, do you eat gluten? Do you eat this? And to me, I'm like, well, yeah, I always have, you know, I partied in college.

• 5:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 00

  But I had never.

• 5:46Gary Brecka?

  Gluten's the least of my concerns.

• 5:48Speaker 00

  I'm, I was going to water burger.

• 5:49Gary Brecka?

  Jack Daniels. Yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 00

  Exactly. And so for me, I was like, I've always eaten this way and I've never been sick. So it can't be the food. But man, was I wrong. And so she, um, you know, I had a lot of parasites from living abroad. I had heavy metal toxicity.

• 6:03Gary Brecka?

  Wow. Cause I was thinking mold, mycotoxin, heavy metal parasite.

• 6:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly.

• 6:08Gary Brecka?

  I'm actually doing a paraplegic cleanse right now.

• 6:10Speaker 00

  Yes. And everyone should. It's, it's something that other countries do it. We deworm our pets, but why aren't we talking about in humans? Cause parasites suppress our immune system.

• 6:17Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. God forgive it. You talk about ivermectin and.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Why, why was it so taboo? Yeah.

• 6:22Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 6:23Speaker 00

  I did all that for, you know, treatment. And so anyway, she really helped support my immune system. I had also gone through a lot of stress and trauma personally in my personal life. That affects our immune system. And so it was just the perfect storm. But yeah, so she changed my diet. She started talking to me about what was in my environment, what chemicals I was using in and on my body. And so I just really cleaned up my entire lifestyle. And I was also doing a lot of high intensity interval training prior to getting sick because that's just, you know, what you do. You go to cycling classes and orange theory.

• 6:49Gary Brecka?

  Good for you too, Max. I mean,

• 6:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:51Gary Brecka?

  High intensity interval training is great for you.

• 6:53Speaker 00

  Yes. Yes. But at that time, since I was sick and my adrenals were taint, you know, that was just adding to the stress.

• 6:58Gary Brecka?

  Exactly.

• 6:58Speaker 00

  And I was gaining weight. So it was just like this never ending cortisol bomb.

• 7:01Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 7:02Speaker 00

  So anyway, so she basically, yeah, she just changed my life. And I was like, this helped me so much. How can I use my medical degree or my nursing degree to go help others? So that's when I went back to nurse practitioner school and I worked for Amy Myers as her nurse for years and kind of got my feet on the ground in functional medicine, you know, learning protocols and testing and treating all of those things.

• 7:21Gary Brecka?

  Wow, that's so awesome. But then you had a monumentous

• 7:26Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 7:27Gary Brecka?

  shift, right? I mean, people think that's the journey. That was not the journey.

• 7:30Speaker 00

  That was healing 1.0.

• 7:32Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, that was healing 1.0. And this is what really maybe sparked you to really go more of a functional medicine route, right? In your life, because you know what's really interesting is I love this, this, this term lifestyle medicine. It's becoming more in vogue. I still don't hear the term that much. You're functional medicine. And I think lifestyle medicine is, is the medicine where you modify the, the modifiable risk factors, right? Before you even intervene with any kind of even supplements or pharmaceuticals or synthetics or chemicals or modalities or anything, you, you, you change the, the lifestyle because you know, in my background in, in, in big data, we realized that the reason why the

• 8:17Gary Brecka?

  majority of people are not living longer, healthier, happier, more fulfilling lives were because of what we called modifiable risk factors. And And that's essentially what started your career, which is amazing because given the timeframe of that, you know, that's this practitioner was ahead of their time. I mean, that's outside the box. Yeah. To really start thinking about gluten, sleep, stress, relationships, you know, all of these things that are, that are, that are the basic foundational principles of optimal health before, like you said, I went to every doctor. Traditional doctor, yeah. Traditional doctor in the world, SSRIs, anti-inflammatories, whatever they suggested.

• 9:01Gary Brecka?

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• 9:45Gary Brecka?

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• 10:28Gary Brecka?

  So now you're in this world and this is what is super fascinating to me. Yeah. So pick up the story from there. Yeah, so.

• 10:35Speaker 00

  Life was good. I've met the man of my dreams. He was an Air Force pilot. We have two children. I have a thriving functional medicine practice of my own at this point. I founded a wellness center with a partner. And I don't know if you're familiar with the Pernuvo full body MRI company.

• 10:48Gary Brecka?

  Very familiar.

• 10:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, so I've always.

• 10:50Gary Brecka?

  I'm trying to put, I'm trying to actually bring them to the Middle East right now.

• 10:53Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 10:54Gary Brecka?

  I'm a huge fan, huge fan.

• 10:56Speaker 00

  So they reached out and they said, hey, you know, we're getting a location in Texas near you. And we would love to give you a full body preventative scan. And I'm like, all right, cool. I'm healthy, you know?

• 11:05Gary Brecka?

  This is 2020?

• 11:05Speaker 00

  This is 2022.

• 11:07Gary Brecka?

  2022.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, so.

• 11:08Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Two and a half years ago.

• 11:09Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 11:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, so not too long ago. And I got the curve ball of my life. And so I did the scan, you know, took the picture, put on the scrubs and I was called and told that I, they found a massive brain tumor in my right frontal lobe. And I'm like, what? You've got to be kidding. This is the wrong person because I have no symptoms. So it was a shock to say the least, but I did in fact have a huge brain tumor.

• 11:32Gary Brecka?

  Wow. You said it was the size of a plum.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  It was the size of a plum.

• 11:36Gary Brecka?

  How did it displace that much gray matter and you were having no symptoms?

• 11:40Speaker 00

  Truly, I can't even explain it because from a medical perspective, I mean, the brain is so symptoms, like one millimeter shift, you can have symptoms in your brain. So literally it's a god thing. I don't have no explanation because it's truly beyond my comprehension.

• 11:53Gary Brecka?

  Did you see this image yourself? I mean, did your heart just drop?

• 11:56Speaker 00

  It did. I'll never forget. We were headed to the museum with my children. And I remember opening the app and I actually didn't get a phone call. I actually have to back it up. I opened up the app because I'm the practitioner. I'm the one who saw it first. No one had told me. So it said abnormal finding and I look and it said nervous system. And I'm like, that's weird. So I went to go look at it and it was a huge picture and it does not take a radiologist or a trained medical professional. I'll show you after.

• 12:21Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  I mean, it is huge. It's this huge white mass.

• 12:24Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 12:25Speaker 00

  So yeah, and then I ended up calling and they confirmed that it was in fact me. And yeah, the craziest thing was I had no symptoms. And so I was a little bit in disbelief, like surely this is the wrong person and they messed up charts.

• 12:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  But after follow up and meeting with a local neurosurgeon several days later, it was in fact me.

• 12:40Gary Brecka?

  Okay, so now you're in for the journey of a lifetime.

• 12:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:43Gary Brecka?

  Right? So tell me about. That journey.

• 12:46Speaker 00

  So when I first got diagnosed, you know, I had a 10 month old at the time and a three year old. And so it was scary as all get out, you know, and as much as I know about integrative and functional medicine at this point, I know nothing about cancer. And now I feel like I have my PhD.

• 12:58Gary Brecka?

  Right, right, right.

• 12:59Speaker 00

  Just your experience.

• 13:00Gary Brecka?

  Just because of all the people I've worked with.

• 13:01Speaker 00

  Yes, and it's only increasing. That's the hard thing. And so I slowed down and I prayed and I said, Okay, God, like, this isn't a surprise to you. You know this, you know, the number of my days, but like, what do I do? And I didn't freak out. I didn't make decisions in fear. I wasn't reactive. And I, I knew that I probably needed to get it out. But I was also like, Okay, this has been growing for years. Same thing with functional medicine. Symptoms, a disease doesn't just happen overnight. It's drops in the bucket over time that lead to the full blown manifestation of a disease and symptoms. And so I knew enough about the body that I wasn't just gonna like, jump to surgery and fear. And I just felt led to take an integrative approach. And so I started doing research and reading books

• 13:43Speaker 00

  and contacting integrative cancer clinics. And, you know, it was also hard. We had to execute a living will. I had to make a lot of decisions as a mom and a wife and a business owner. Like, I had to get my husband access to all my business stuff, because I'm like, what if something happens?

• 13:56Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 13:57Speaker 00

  So there was the life part of me that was trying to figure things out. And I also am so blessed, because most people that have a brain tumor, they have a seizure, they wake up in the emergency room, they get the next call on call neurosurgeon. You don't have time to research, pray. I mean, it's like, you don't pack bags, you don't send out office email, it's, it's go time. And so for me, I'm like, Okay, God, thank you for giving me this information. I just want to like, walk this journey well.

• 14:18Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 14:19Speaker 00

  So I ended up going to Hope for Cancer. It's a holistic cancer center in Mexico. I went to the Cancer Center for Healing in California in Irvine. And I did everything from hyperbaric oxygen, red light beds, methylene blue, curcumin IVs, high dose of vitamin C. I mean, you name it, I've done it.

• 14:36Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 00

  And so I spent five months prior to surgery, I did end up getting brain surgery, doing research, getting second opinions.

• 14:43Gary Brecka?

  Now, did you go down and stay down there?

• 14:45Speaker 00

  I did, for a couple of weeks.

• 14:46Gary Brecka?

  Now, a lot of these you can do here. You can do, you can do hyperbarics, turmeric, methylene blue.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:51Gary Brecka?

  You could do, I mean, I have all this stuff.

• 14:53Speaker 00

  I just need to come to your place, actually. I'm like, where were you when I went through all of this?

• 14:57Gary Brecka?

  You know, and you know, and I actually want to go down this, this, this cancer bandwagon. I mean, obviously I'm, I'm not licensed to practice medicine. I'm, I'm a human biologist and I, I emphasize that all the time. But I have found myself in the middle of so many clients with cancer lately. It is mind numbing. This morning I was in the, in the sauna right before you got here on the phone with my CFO and my attorney. And my attorney at the end of the call said, hey, do you have an extra few minutes? I got something personally I want to talk to you about. And he says, listen, I have a very good friend just diagnosed with stage four metastatic colon cancer. It's in the, you know, the liver and the lymph. And he's already got a colostomy bag, you know, the day that he found out.

• 15:38Gary Brecka?

  Last night I flew in from Scottsdale because my best friend of 35 years is in the Mayo Clinic Oncology Center. He's in the ICU now.

• 15:51Gary Brecka?

  30, 35 years, he's been my best friend. We were lifeguards when we were 19 years old. Stage four metastatic colon cancer and it's spread to all of the lethal three hours, the lymph, the liver and the lungs.

• 16:04Gary Brecka?

  And I was in the room and you know, around his mom, my wife Sage was there. You know, when Mayo came in and said the hard things to him and they, they, this is not even 24 hours old. But basically 10 year survival is zero. Five year survival, 2%. Right now we're, we're talking about prolonging your life, not saving your life. Massive chemotherapy, radiation, colonectomy, colostomy bag. You know, the whole nine yards. And so I went out to provide him an alternative. And I said, um, first of all, it's good that you're hearing this from Mayo. And Mayo's done for the record, an excellent job of keeping, keeping him alive.

• 16:49Gary Brecka?

  He was septic, you know, had, would have died if it was not.

• 16:52Speaker 00

  Times and places for conventional intervention.

• 16:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, exactly. But what was astounding, my wife did a post about this and she tagged the Mayo Clinic. Cause when we walked in there. He's in the ICU for cancer treatment and he had Jell-O with red dye forty in it, like sugar-free Jell-O, Seagram's Soda, which was, you know, I spun the can around, I'm like fifty-four grams of sugar, and pureed applesauce. And that was

• 17:19Speaker 00

  Poison.

• 17:20Gary Brecka?

  Choices of what to eat. And so I've now got him with a naturopathic oncologist, interventional radiologist, a full-blown medical oncologist. I'm surrounding him with an entire team. I have a cancer chef, basically, a clean keto chef.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 17:44Gary Brecka?

  Then we're going to migrate him to really nutrient-dense microgreens. I'm shipping him a Red Life therapy bed. He's going into hyperbaric oxygen therapy. He's doing, he's going to do methylene blue. He's going to do regular EBO2 ozone.

• 17:57Speaker 00

  Ebu, yeah.

• 17:58Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, the Ebu ozone. And he's going to do high dose vitamin C. And I've got his permission to allow me to share his story in real time. And my intention is to be a part of the team that saves his life for the next six to 10 months. And we're just going to bring everybody along on this story. And I have a community called the VIP Ultimate Humans. And what I've decided that I'm going to do is be really vulnerable and transparent with this community and take people from my own community that had mold, mycotoxins, metals, parasites, pathogens, viruses. And we're going to bring them up on stage. I'm going to match them with a functional practitioner, including, you know, and then I'll be a part

• 18:39Gary Brecka?

  of the case, not making medical decisions. And we are going to start telling the stories of the miracle of the human body in real time to give people hope. And that's why

• 18:50Speaker 00

  People need that.

• 18:51Gary Brecka?

  Interested in your story. And that's, and that's why I also love the, a lot of the practical information that you put out because viral, just what I call lateral shifts, where you show food choices and things like that. So I don't mean to interrupt your story, my own personal story, but

• 19:08Gary Brecka?

  It is just astounding to me how often, you know, this is happening. You know, very close relative Dana White, you know, I finished Dana White's journey and,

• 19:20Gary Brecka?

  you know, he called me and said, diagnosed stage four colon cancer, it's metastatic. She is, by the way, cancer free now, five months later with non-conventional therapies. And so to give the people that are listening to this hope, because everybody knows somebody with cancer.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure. And it's only increasing sadly.

• 19:35Gary Brecka?

  It's one in five, it's one in five now.

• 19:39Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 19:39Gary Brecka?

  Right. It's mind numbing to me. Fifty percent of us are going to develop cancer at some point in our lifetime. And I think when you, when you boil it down to its simplest form, right? And say, what is cancer? So first of all, it's not something that happens to us. It's something that happens within us. All cancer is a healthy cell that became metabolically sick.

• 19:59Speaker 00

  Right.

• 20:00Gary Brecka?

  So why do we believe that healthy cells can become metabolically sick? But we don't believe that metabolically sick cells can become healthy, right?

• 20:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:08Gary Brecka?

  So can you give me a little more detail about what you did on this journey? And then I want to get to what you're doing right now.

• 20:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:13Gary Brecka?

  If you're okay with that.

• 20:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, everything's fair game. But I will also say, I love what you spoke to too, before I get into some of the practical. I think mindset is so huge. And I think so many people hear the word cancer and it's a death sentence, you know? And I see, like, I see it so clearly. A doctor speaks this over you. You look up on Google, you feel like your days are numbered. You start believing that, you start doing treatment, you lose your hair, then you identify as a cancer patient. You know, and it's, it's this spiral.

• 20:37Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  And so I will also say mindset is everything. No man knows the number of your days. I mean, you're pretty good at statistics and prognosis, life expectancy. But who says you can't change those modifiable risk factors?

• 20:47Gary Brecka?

  Modifiable risk factors is the point.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  And so I also think mindset is so huge. Like, I am doing so many things to prevent cancer from coming back because I am cancer free. But my mindset, I live life like I'm healed too. I can't tell my body I'm sick all the time. And I don't say my cancer diagnosis because that comes a part of my identity. I say the cancer, something that affected me that God's used and it has a purpose. But I don't take it on as my identity. And so I think, but mindset is important. You know, I've had doctors speak over me, how long I'm going to live. And quite frankly, I'm not a statistic and I'm not your average American that's eating your average American diet. Doing the average American treatments.

• 21:19Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 21:19Speaker 00

  I am being proactive. When you mentioned ketosis, I think that is the way to go to get into a metabolic therapeutic state for ketosis because cancer loves sugar. So we have to cut off its food source that first and foremost. And then we also have to look at and what getting into your question of what I did is what could have stressed the immune system because at any given point in time, we all have circulating tumor cells. But the way God made our body is that our immune system, when it's working and strong, it will go take care of those circulating tumor cells.

• 21:45Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  However, when your immune system is suppressed, that's when cancer cells proliferate, go rogue, and a full tumor forms. And so people always kind of freak out when they

• 21:54Gary Brecka?

  I would say like this circulating tumor cells is like stage zero.

• 21:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:57Gary Brecka?

  You know, because, you know, even stage one right now is, you know, when we say we have stage one, two, three, four, you know, even stage one right now is that's where it's already set up as a disease.

• 22:08Speaker 00

  Right.

• 22:08Gary Brecka?

  Right?

• 22:09Speaker 00

  Right.

• 22:09Gary Brecka?

  I mean, that's where the thief has already broken into your house and taken all your stuff. Right? It'd be nice to, to, you know, arrest them before they've done any damage.

• 22:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, we gotta be proactive, not reactive. Like, oh, shoot, it's here. It's like, so everything you're doing is proactive, right? Like, don't wait until you get a diagnosis. And I think people always hear my story and they kind of freak out a little bit because they're like, wait, you're this health and wellness person that we follow and you have this whole brand and you got cancer?

• 22:34Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  But what I always like to remind people, especially you can't live in fear, you know, like, we do have to be more proactive with how toxic our society and environment is. So we can't just like be flippant about how we live our life. We have to be super mindful and conscious of all the lifestyle choices and diet and things that we do. But I think for me, like, I was really sick and people forget that. And so when I was sick and got into functional medicine, that's when the tumor started growing.

• 22:56Gary Brecka?

  Yes.

• 22:56Speaker 00

  So when you look back on my timeline, all these oncologists and all these traditional doctors and neurosurgeons were saying, well, it's probably been growing eight to 10 years. And it dawned on me, I'm like, that's when I was sick. So it's crazy to look back on the timeline.

• 23:09Gary Brecka?

  You probably saved your own life without realizing it.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  I mean, it's crazy.

• 23:13Gary Brecka?

  At least slowed its growth and progression.

• 23:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:17Gary Brecka?

  Um, yeah. So, so more specifically, you, um, when you said I did red light, you did it in full body red light therapy, multiple days a week. Um, were you doing like high dose vitamin C IV?

• 23:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:28Gary Brecka?

  Did you put yourself into ketosis?

• 23:30Speaker 00

  I did. And I was like, I knew a lot about nutrition and that's the hard thing for me. I was already really healthy. So to feel like I had to take it up a notch was like, whoa.

• 23:37Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  What does this look like? But I treated healing like a job for a period of time, especially during those five months before brain surgery. And I was like, you know what? It'd be so cool if we could shrink this brain tumor. But if anything, I'm just preparing my body to be strong going into a brain surgery.

• 23:50Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 23:50Speaker 00

  And so for me, I did high dose vitamin C. I had to work my way up to like 75 grams.

• 23:56Gary Brecka?

  Grams, yep.

• 23:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:57Gary Brecka?

  You started like 25 grams.

• 23:58Speaker 00

  Yep. And then worked our way up. I did methylene blue infusions. I did methylene blue before doing a red light helmet, like 30 minutes before to activate it.

• 24:06Gary Brecka?

  Oral or?

• 24:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, I did oral. Um, so I do like my methylene blue drops. 30 minutes later, I'd put on my red light helmet.

• 24:11Gary Brecka?

  Great.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  I did molecular.

• 24:12Gary Brecka?

  Was that a neuronal helmet?

• 24:13Speaker 00

  Um, it's Weber, Weber, Weber. It's from Germany.

• 24:17Gary Brecka?

  Okay, great.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  So I did that. So we, you and I were offline talking about therapy stacking because you got to, to be efficient. You know, you can't just all day do everything.

• 24:25Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:25Speaker 00

  So I would sit at my desk, I'd check emails, I'd do my methylene blue, I'd put on my red light helmet, I'd do my molecular hydrogen oxygen, I have a hyperbaric chamber, you know, sauna.

• 24:34Gary Brecka?

  Like a soft chamber?

• 24:34Speaker 00

  I do, I have a soft chamber. I've gotten so claustrophobic though, so I haven't used it as much, but I had to use it.

• 24:40Gary Brecka?

  You get one of mine, yeah.

• 24:41Speaker 00

  Seriously, I, I sat in there earlier and I could do that.

• 24:44Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:44Speaker 00

  But yeah, I did everything that you can imagine. Got into ketosis. I was checking not just ketones, but GKI, glucose ketone index, pricking my finger. I mean, it was, I did everything. I was taking so many supplements.

• 24:57Gary Brecka?

  The CGMs.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  I did CGMs, yeah.

• 24:59Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  And then I, um, yeah, I'm just thinking like, what else did I do? I did, I mean, a lot of stuff for nervous system and stress.

• 25:06Gary Brecka?

  And diet wise, when you put yourself into ketosis, so, because I, I always remind people, there's dirty keto diets, there's clean keto diets, just like there's dirty vegetarian diets. Vegetarians can have, you know,

• 25:16Speaker 00

  Processed plant burgers.

• 25:17Gary Brecka?

  Beer, you know, Doritos, pasta, mac and cheese. Um, so I mean, there's dirty vegetarian diets, like there's dirty keto diets. When you were putting yourself in ketosis, what kind of, what kind of fats were you using?

• 25:30Speaker 00

  So really high quality fats. And that's when people, and I actually had a hard time in ketosis because I was doing lower carb, but I was doing too much protein.

• 25:36Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  So I realized I had to do a lot more healthy fat. So I was doing olive oil shots, avocado, macadamia nuts.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  And I really had to up my fat. Like it was, I had to consciously make an effort.

• 25:47Gary Brecka?

  It's hard to get 75% of your caloric intake from fat, which is really a keto diet. Most people think that keto diet is a high protein, low carb diet. That's not.

• 25:54Speaker 00

  They think it's like cottage cheese and T-bone steaks.

• 25:56Gary Brecka?

  Right, right, right. And I mean, and you can have a ribeye steak on there, but, but fatty ribeye, but you also, you're right, you need to have olive oil, coconut oil.

• 26:04Speaker 00

  It's very moderate protein. That was, that's another big thing, like wild caught fish, grass fed meat. And then I would do, you know, greens, like really low carb vegetables.

• 26:13Gary Brecka?

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• 26:58Gary Brecka?

  So don't just snack. Reach for masa. It's real food, real health, without any of the junk. Grab a bag and I promise you'll feel the difference. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Where do you fall on the cleansing bandwagon? Because I feel like, you know, again, just going back to the root of all cancer, which is a metabolically healthy cell, becomes metabolically sick. Even though we rarely know exactly what caused it, I mean, if you had a massive poison exposure or a massive amount of radiation or something, we can usually pinpoint what caused it. But, but that's very, very rare. Most people, their cancer diagnosis was, you know, idiopathic. It's of unknown origin.

• 27:38Gary Brecka?

  But the more I get down the rabbit hole of parasites, mold, mycotoxin, metals, and, and viruses, the more I realize a lot of these have a common origin. That's, that's like. The hub of the wheel. If you could just eliminate those four things or address those four things, right? Mold, mycotoxin, virus, metals, then you know, you're probably getting to the root of what wore your immune system out in the first place and allow that circulating tumor cell to slip by. So you said you did a parasitic cleanse as well. So how did you, first of all, did you test for parasites?

• 28:18Speaker 00

  I did. And for me, you know, I was living abroad, so it made a lot of sense. And another thing, and I will say drops in the bucket, it was the perfect storm for me, you know, the parasites was a huge contributing factor. I tested positive for parasites and stool. I actually, this is crazy. And for anyone listening that think parasites are woo woo, and they're like, yeah, but we don't live in a third world country. No, no, we deworm our pets. Like you can have exposure. And so one thing that I have to say specifically about parasites is, so when I got diagnosed, I did all the lab testing you can ever imagine on myself, you know, because I had practitioners, but I'm like, I'm going to cast the net. What are we missing here? And I actually found I was blood positive, serum positive for a parasite called Toxoplasma gondii, that the International Journal of Cancer and the American Cancer Society link to brain tumors in middle aged people.

• 29:03Gary Brecka?

  No way.

• 29:04Speaker 00

  Yes. And so

• 29:04Gary Brecka?

  Is this because of the outgassing of these?

• 29:06Speaker 00

  You know, it suppresses the immune system. So parasites, if we want to talk parasites, they suppress the immune system. And so again, with cancer, we want to do anything to boost our immune system and decrease inflammation, boost immunity. And so parasites suppress the immune system because they're a foreign invader. You know, and so for me, I did ivermectin, I did all sorts of mybendazole, fobendazole, I even did alinea, I did all sorts of, I actually did pharmaceuticals. I think there are times and places for it.

• 29:31Gary Brecka?

  Felsiclovir or something?

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, antivirals. But for me specifically, I, so I did that. But then I also have done a lot of herbs. And so, you know, you can just do quarterly, like my kids, I'm like, all right, kids, it's April, we're deworming.

• 29:44Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 29:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. And so it's really, the idea is like not over cleansing. Because to be honest, even in the functional medicine world, I thought it was a little overkill because I would test people for parasites. And they're really hard to detect on testing. But I've done frequency scans, I've done stool tests, blood tests, and it is consistently positive.

• 30:00Gary Brecka?

  The frequency scans can pick it up. I find that Those are actually very good, very good at picking those up. Which is why I'm also a believer in, in frequency to, you know, address them.

• 30:10Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 30:10Gary Brecka?

  Like that, that ho cap machine that we have is transdermal ozone, but it also has a rife, you know, frequency in it.

• 30:16Speaker 00

  I've done a lot of rife.

• 30:17Gary Brecka?

  Have you done a lot of rife too?

• 30:18Speaker 00

  A lot.

• 30:18Gary Brecka?

  It's so good because I think, you know, you can empower people as well because, you know, so I, I sat and had the conversation with my friend, uh, this, this weekend with my wife, his mother and, you know, he's, he's in the bed in the ICU. We're hoping he's going to get discharged in the next few days.

• 30:37Gary Brecka?

  And I said, you know, we're going to commit this, you know, very differently. We have a team that's going to address your cancer. There's an interventional radiologist, there's a naturopathic oncologist, and there's an oncologist. And these people are qualified to practice that medicine. But then we have another team that's just caring for the host, just caring for you. Who's, who's making your meals? How, you know, what are you eating? What are you laying in? We need to start thinking about being in service to the body and that everything that's going to enter your body from now on has got to be in service to you. The water you drink has to be intentional. The air you breathe has to be intentional, meaning let's, let's filter the air and make sure that we're not getting mold spores or getting, uh, you know, pet dander or things.

• 31:20Gary Brecka?

  You know, the bed you're sleeping in, the, the modalities that you're going to use, you know, all of these things are caring for the host because I, I don't think there's any, you know, law that says you have to be sick and emaciated and lose your hair and be, you know, sarcopenic and all of these things when you're going through cancer treatment. You know, the majority of the clients of mine that have gone through that, the journey was not that horrific for them.

• 31:44Speaker 00

  Cause you can do a lot of things to support your journey along the way.

• 31:46Gary Brecka?

  Do a lot of things. So were you doing anything to, I mean, obviously you're conscious of your diet. And before your surgery, did the tumor actually shrink?

• 31:54Speaker 00

  It did. Yes. It was a miracle.

• 31:57Gary Brecka?

  That's so amazing.

• 31:58Speaker 00

  Which is insane. Yes. Because when I got the radiology reports.

• 32:01Gary Brecka?

  That is incre- I mean, first of all, was your like neurologist like, what in the?

• 32:06Speaker 00

  So I actually have the coolest neurosurgeon. He's actually in, I flew to Arizona for my brain surgery. He's at Barrows Neurological, Chris Smith, if anyone needs a recommendation. And he believes in ketosis.

• 32:14Gary Brecka?

  In Scottsdale?

• 32:14Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 32:15Gary Brecka?

  I was literally just there.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. So he, he operates in Scottsdale and in Phoenix, and we stayed in Scottsdale for me to recover, but he believes in metabolic ketosis. You know, he doesn't have the time to talk about all these things that stress the immune system because he's saving lives and doing brain surgery. But yeah, I mean, he's all in and he's like, he's the one that told me, I don't want you doing, because mine was stage three. So it was, stage four is the most aggressive. So it wasn't like this, you know, little tiny growing thing. It was a beast that we needed to get out of there. So I'm grateful. And that's what I also want people to hear me say, I think it's easy to hear all the stuff that we talk about and think that it's all holistic. And I always say, I like saying integrative, because you take the best of the conventional, the best of the holistic, and you integrate the two for the best possible outcome.

• 32:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I agree. I mean, just changing your diet alone is not going to save your life.

• 32:56Speaker 00

  Right. And there are times and places for acute care, you know, let's get someone out of the acute flare of ulcerative colitis. And you sometimes have to get the steroids and get the iron infusion, but then you have to figure out what caused the inflammation and caused the immune system to go rogue, not just with cancer, with anything autoimmune disease. And so, um, everyone was shocked and it was truly a miracle. But I'm so glad I still did surgery to get the remainder out. And so I have a huge hole in my brain. I'm still normal. You wouldn't know, right?

• 33:21Gary Brecka?

  I didn't even, like, when I first saw you, I'm like, dude, this chick's got a hole in her brain, for sure. No, just kidding. No, not at all.

• 33:29Speaker 00

  Well, and even people that knew me, you know, they're like, you're still the same tailor, even 24 hours. I mean, the whole thing's a miracle.

• 33:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  And I didn't have any deficits. And I was walking six hours after brain surgery. I was like, giving them orders. I'm like, get this catheter out. I'm ready to get up and get ambulating.

• 33:43Gary Brecka?

  You are. Wow.

• 33:44Speaker 00

  And then I was, I went home straight from ICU 24 hours after surgery. And so I really think everything I did to prepare my body.

• 33:51Gary Brecka?

  Through the temporal side?

• 33:51Speaker 00

  Right here. I have a huge, I have a huge scar right here.

• 33:54Gary Brecka?

  Well, yeah. Beautiful hair, so nobody sees it.

• 33:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. And so he's the one that said, you know, traditional oncology, and that's something else. You know, when people are like, oh my gosh, but you did integrative stuff with cancer. Isn't cancer scary? And for me, I'm like, well, no, because traditional only offers chemo, surgery and radiation. And the integrative side offers all these other therapies and diet. And as a mom that wants to see her kids live a long life, like, why wouldn't I do anything and everything? And so for me, I didn't just do what traditional offered me. I did all the other things too. But instead of doing chemo and radiation, that's where I'm still doing things to prevent recurrence. And my neurosurgeon said, like, I want you to get into ketosis. I want you to keep focusing on everything you're doing with your immune system.

• 34:33Gary Brecka?

  So no chemo, no radiation. And now post-surgery images are good.

• 34:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just had a scan three weeks ago.

• 34:40Gary Brecka?

  And he got, I mean, was it encapsulated? How did he get clean margins?

• 34:43Speaker 00

  So he just probably took a little bit more around. And I love that you're asking that question. You're so educated because most people think that a brain tumor is sitting on top of your brain, but it really, it infiltrates the brain tissue.

• 34:51Gary Brecka?

  It was brain tissue.

• 34:52Speaker 00

  Yes, and so it was healthy brain tissue. And so it was the right side of my brain. I was spared any symptoms. I definitely struggled with sensory overload after brain surgery. So that's where I like, I have my higher dose mat and, you know, I'd have to take a brain. I saw that and that thing saved my life after brain surgery. I mean, I would just, I would need to go low sensory. I'd go lay in my closet and just lay on that and it was so calming.

• 35:11Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 35:12Speaker 00

  But yeah, I didn't have any deficits.

• 35:13Gary Brecka?

  You know what was crazy? I put it on the sleep setting the other day. They, they, they sent me one to evaluate and I was, I was watching the Super Bowl.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:20Gary Brecka?

  And so I just, it's like, you know, I might as well give this thing a whirl right now. Set, I set like for the, for the sleep setting and I woke up in the middle of the third quarter. It was a good game to miss anyway.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was kind of boring anyway. You didn't miss too much this year.

• 35:35Gary Brecka?

  The Eagles and I won my bet because I had, the Eagles had to score 24 points. So, so thank you, higher dose, because I passed out and woke up and I was like.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  No, it's a game changer. And that's the one thing that like would help me if I'd have a restless night. I struggled with insomnia. That was really hard. Um, and I did have Lyme disease and so I'm working on that right now. But the Lyme was re-triggered and activated with the brain surgery. And so like, talk about nervous system dysregulation. So I didn't have any deficits after surgery, like.

• 36:01Gary Brecka?

  Lyme is another difficult one and it, you know, I am convinced that it has to be coming from potentially other sources than a tick.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 36:09Gary Brecka?

  And, and, and the reason why I believe that is I, I. I've also seen so many clients that have had chronic Lyme. And then because of its capacity to retreat into the dorsal root ganglion, hide, not be active, you know, not have a viral load that's high enough for you to trigger an IGM response. So, excuse me, so when you do Lyme testing very often, it's like, oh, it's in remission. It's like, oh, you also had mono in eighth grade and that's in remission and you don't have SC bar. But Lyme is really sneaky.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  It can be reactivated.

• 36:39Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I think it almost doesn't behave like a typical virus.

• 36:43Speaker 00

  It's asperger's, so it like burrows in tissues. And I honestly, I was hospitalized for a tick bite years and years ago, but the body's also amazing, you know, like we can keep these things at bay. And yeah, just because you have chicken pox as a kid, doesn't mean you're gonna get shingles, you know, like there's a lot we can do to support our immune system.

• 36:58Gary Brecka?

  Doesn't always become EBV, but when you see people with repeated EBV flare ups.

• 37:01Speaker 00

  There's something going on.

• 37:02Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, there's something going on.

• 37:03Speaker 00

  And also stress, that can trigger a lot of people. Don't, don't give stress enough credit for the havoc that it can wreak on our body.

• 37:09Gary Brecka?

  I totally agree with you. And I think that, you know, one, in my opinion, one of the greatest sort of theories or philosophical approaches to aging now that's emerging is, is this whole concept of immun fatigue.

• 37:22Gary Brecka?

  And, you know, when the immune system gets busy on too many fronts, right? Because most people think it's just protecting us from, from pathogens, which it is, right? I mean, it's, it's, you get influenza, it's kind of mounted immune response. But the majority of the immune system's role is to police ourself, right? The circulating tumor cells, like you're talking about senescent cells.

• 37:42Speaker 00

  Yes, and protect us.

• 37:43Gary Brecka?

  And, and, and to protect us and also police the parts of us that are not working, right? And so when, when it's, when it's fighting on too many fronts and, you know, it gets run down and, you know, stress is one of those things that, I love that bucket analogy of, you know, it just puts a few more things in the bucket and pretty soon.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  It overflows.

• 38:02Gary Brecka?

  It overflows. But it's never just the one thing.

• 38:05Speaker 00

  No.

• 38:06Gary Brecka?

  Right? So when you say, I love it when, when.

• 38:11Gary Brecka?

  Uh, you know, you go to your doctor and they're like, well, you gotta reduce your stress. And it's like, well, what, what does that look like?

• 38:18Gary Brecka?

  Get divorced, not talk to my kids and quit my job. Cause those are the three things that stress me out. My marriage, my kids and my job. So, um, and I mean that tongue in cheek guys. But so talk about some of the, this stress reducing techniques that you did. You need a pulse electromagnetic field.

• 38:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:35Gary Brecka?

  Did you do any kind of like biofeedback or?

• 38:37Speaker 00

  I did, I did biofeedback. Again, I had had some trauma in my life, so I did some EMDR for that.

• 38:42Gary Brecka?

  That's really good.

• 38:43Speaker 00

  And yeah, some emotional release stuff. And I think the also the thing is I think we've normalized stress, our society. Everybody's overcommitted and busy and stressed.

• 38:50Gary Brecka?

  Not normalize it, we glorify it.

• 38:51Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 38:52Gary Brecka?

  Like take the hill, sleep is for losers.

• 38:54Speaker 00

  Yes, like do more, be more, hustle hard.

• 38:57Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:57Speaker 00

  Otherwise you fail.

• 38:58Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 38:59Speaker 00

  And talk about the nervous system, like being in the parasympathetic state, which is the rest and digest and calm is like hardly ever. And so really practical stuff like deep breathing, you know, my infrared sauna is super calming for me. For me, prayer, you know, having quiet time, journaling, grounding, time outside. A lot of these things are free when it comes to stress relief and up some salt bath. But for me also practically, you know, I was hustling. I was a mom of a 10 month old, a three year old. I owned a private practice. I had a wellness center. And so for me, I had to stop and reevaluate every commitment in my life. What matters? And what really mattered to me is being the mom that I've always wanted to be. And that meant not just for here and now, but long-term. I think we're so focused on here and now and what can I get done? But I'm like, I want to be there for those milestones. So what do I need to step away from?

• 39:43Speaker 00

  And so I ended up closing down my private practice. I had thousands of people on the waitlist. It was thriving. I had multiple practitioners, but if I can't help myself and take care of myself, what's the point of helping everyone else?

• 39:52Gary Brecka?

  God bless you for that. That is, that is amazing.

• 39:54Speaker 00

  But then I also stepped away from the wellness center, you know, and I just really had to just restructure my life. So practically I had to get stuff off my plate that I don't want to say it no longer served me. I mean, it was amazing. It gave me so much purpose. I worked so hard to be in that place, but they were stressors at the end of the day that pulled me away from my healing and my family.

• 40:10Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And so you really just focused on your healing journey.

• 40:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. And but, you know, the practical stuff like getting my sunshine and fresh air. That's free. Grounding, putting my feet in the grass for 10 minutes a day.

• 40:20Gary Brecka?

  Every morning, same thing.

• 40:21Speaker 00

  Taking a Epsom salt bath. You know, it's the simple stuff that people forget about.

• 40:24Gary Brecka?

  I totally agree with you. You know, it's, you know, I got lots of fancy equipment in my, in my unit, but I always tell people, listen, you don't have to, you don't have to spend a hundred grand on a, on a red light bed. Just take your shirt off, expose your skin to sunlight, you know, let sunlight get into your eyes. Let it, let it be your circadian rhythm. You know, you can, you can force the reset of these things with tranquility, like sleep medication, but because we regulate our lighting and we regulate our temperature and, you know, we, we can make it the surface of the sun at one o'clock in the morning if we want, you know, that's not ancestrally like how, how our body was designed. It wasn't designed to be in sync with fluorescent lighting. It was designed to be in sync with the rise and fall of the sun.

• 41:00Speaker 00

  Right.

• 41:01Gary Brecka?

  And, and very often I have a, a client too, that was suffering from very, very severe tinnitus. Tinnitus so severe that he was really on a regular basis contemplating taking, taking his own life. And, and one of the things that we did for him when he, I had him actually come here and move in with me for a short period of time was just the simple things go to, but force him to go to bed at the same time each night and wake up at the same time each morning. My, my wife and daughter actually took shifts sleeping in his room here, the house, because we're, you know, couldn't concern about him. And, and just that consistency of like sunlight in the morning, grounding in the morning, breath, breath work,

• 41:43Gary Brecka?

  dimming the lights at night, red light in the room in the evenings, just over several weeks starts to tell the body, this is when we wake up, this is when we go to bed, this is when we wake up, some sense of normalcy. I think we're, we're such circadian creatures that we crave that routine, right?

• 41:59Speaker 00

  And getting back to basics, we overcomplicate it.

• 42:01Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And so you also talk a lot about gut health. And I think when we talk about gut health, I mean, obviously I think the majority of us would agree, gut's important, but why is it important and how do we care for it? And for people that have had Lifelong gut disruption, like where's a place for them to start?

• 42:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, so the gut really is the gateway to health and it does not get enough attention. It truly is. I have seen in practice over the years, once the gut is healed, so many other things fall into place. You know, we, we chase skin issues, we chase hormonal issues and, and it's like, if you really fix the gut, so many of these other things are secondary. And so I think obviously eating a clean diet, focusing on whole foods, getting away from all the process, the seed oils, the sugar, that's a very practical place to start. Managing stress, that's huge. You know, the gut-brain access is so important. A lot of our neurotransmitters are made in our gut. It's a second brain. And so obviously the, the things, you know, managing stress, sleeping, eating healthy, drinking clean water. But if people have all of those things down, I usually find it's helpful to do stool testing because usually there's either...

• 43:06Gary Brecka?

  Gut microbiome.

• 43:07Speaker 00

  Yes, yes. And good old poop test because it is. It's once you identify the bacteria, you know, some people, you could guess and try certain gut healing supplements and digestive enzymes, but I find, I'm a really big fan of test, don't guess, when you don't know what's going on.

• 43:20Gary Brecka?

  I'm a huge fan of test.

• 43:21Speaker 00

  Yes. And so is it dysbiosis? Is there imbalanced bacteria that needs to be treated? Is it a lack of a certain strain? You know, do you need pancreatic enzymes? Maybe it's parasites. So, once you can address kind of those imbalances, I find that's really helpful.

• 43:34Gary Brecka?

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• 44:18Gary Brecka?

  and start training smarter today. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Yeah, we did this. I did a three day gut challenge was super, super simple. We just meals that were like heavy and in fermented vegetables. And so we did three days of meals with all these folks and we did, you know, clean water and and some some supplementation, basic supplementation, pre pro and post postbiotics and some some gut supplements that were relatively basic. Of all the challenges I've ever had, like of, you know, the water fasting challenges, 10,000 step cold plunge, of all the challenges I've ever had, we we not only had the most number of participants, but it was the most overwhelming amount of inbound

• 45:01Gary Brecka?

  communication from people about how it changed their life. Amazing. Oh, my God, my, my, and it was relatively simple. I'm not talking about demonstrative changes in people's lives, but like people telling us about how their skin cleared up, how they started sleeping up, ringing went away in their ears, how they stopped bloating, they went in and their hormones were balanced on their next test. It is just astounding to me, the, um, the amount of gateways that leave the gut and lead to other chronic symptoms that are presenting themselves as disease pathology dysfunction, you know, when we get back to the basics and start fixing the gut. So, so what are some things that people, what do you, I mean, I knew, I knew you have a supplement line and you have your TW wellness? Yeah. Okay, yeah. So, or TD wellness?

• 45:46Gary Brecka?

  We have an online community, but then we also have like supplements and electrolytes and protein. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I want to talk about like your online community and, you know, some of the supplements, like how, how did you derive them? I also love the fact that you're a mom and a lot and you, you're very transparent about what you do with your kids when they're sick, what you do with your kids when they're stressed, when they can't sleep. And so for for really active moms that don't have a functional medicine background. Yeah. Where do they start with their kids? Diet supplementation, these sorts of things. What are some practical steps that every mom should be taking to just elevate the welfare?

• 46:24Speaker 00

  I think that's such a good question and it really does. It starts with moms for our next generation. And I feel like a lot of people trying to get into this world, there's so much information. You get inundated and overwhelmed. And so I just say silence the noise, find a few good people that you trust. You know, listen to them, learn from them, but also don't feel like because you can't do this big radical change that you're never going to be able to do anything. So again, it's starting with the basics, you know? They're little people too, like get them out in sunshine and fresh air, you know? A lot of moms are so overwhelmed, they can't find time for themselves, let alone their kids. And so I'm like, come on kids, we're going outside, we're grounding. My kids, they call it barefooting.

• 46:57Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 00

  You know, so bring them along with you, have them drink a little.

• 47:00Gary Brecka?

  Which is so crazy is that's how I grew up. You know, I actually saw someone talking about it on Instagram this morning when I was in my red light pad and it freaked me out because I am the last generation that's going to grow up knowing what it's not like to be connected.

• 47:16Speaker 00

  Right?

• 47:16Gary Brecka?

  Right. So we didn't have iPhone, we didn't have the internet, you know, we didn't have iPads.

• 47:24Gary Brecka?

  And when I think of like all this stuff, they're like, yeah, I got my kids to take their shoes off, touch the surface of the earth. We went out and grounded this morning. I'm like,

• 47:31Speaker 00

  Why is that an effort?

• 47:32Gary Brecka?

  Nine hours a day.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  I went to the creek and played. Like I came home when the sun was going down. Yeah.

• 47:37Gary Brecka?

  I didn't start wearing clothes till I was like nine, you know, like, cause I grew up on a farm. And so you, you, you actually bring the kids along on this journey, right?

• 47:47Speaker 00

  So they call it. And I would say just like moms, like we have the power to feed our children, you know, they don't know what things are and it's never too late to start. So clean up the snacks in the pantry, get rid of inflammatory oils, get rid of the sugar. Hard and fast rule in our family. We can budge when we go to birthday parties, you know, our kids, we're here enjoying Miami. We had a little, you know, sorbet at dinner last night. That's the truth for them. Hard and fast rule, we do no food dies in our home and our kids know it. And, and it's, it's one of those things.

• 48:10Gary Brecka?

  Food dies.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. So we don't do food dies.

• 48:12Gary Brecka?

  I've actually seen some, I mean, by the way, I mean, I'm going to give the whole audience, I'll tell you how to get in touch with Taylor and find her on social media at the end of the podcast. But one of the things I love that she does, and I do some of these too, but not. Not as well as she does is she shows you these lateral shifts.

• 48:26Speaker 00

  The swaps.

• 48:27Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, the swaps. I call them lateral shifts, but the swaps, you know, like Oreos for this, you know, crackers for this, Doritos for this, and she gives you practical brands. I actually did a little research and sleuthing around, and the majority of her swaps are are dollar cost neutral. Like, or very slight increases in cost. Like, it's not like you're going from a $2 option to a $15 option.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:49Gary Brecka?

  Going from a $2 option to a $2.50 option, which was really cool. And I was deeply appreciative of that because I think a lot of times there's just not good practical information on, all right, listen, I'm a busy mom. I gotta walk into the grocery store. Just tell me what to do. And I love that. So I was actually even looking at the M and M swap and and the the one I I looked up the one that you swapped.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  Probably unreal snacks.

• 49:14Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah, unreal.

• 49:14Speaker 00

  And they're good, too.

• 49:15Gary Brecka?

  Dang, they actually are really, they're actually colored with like beet juice and spirulina and like blueberry and almost like grape seed peel. And I was like, this is amazing. I didn't know candies could do this.

• 49:30Speaker 00

  But a lot of countries have outlawed it. And so it's like, this is the one thing, and my kids know, like, my sons play baseball, and they're like, yeah, we don't drink Gatorade. We just drink mom's electrolytes. And they're cool with it, you know?

• 49:40Gary Brecka?

  And by the way, they're great. And what are your electrolytes made from?

• 49:43Speaker 00

  They are made from organic coconut water. And then we, of course, do sodium, potassium, and magnesium.

• 49:47Gary Brecka?

  So is it is it liquid or is it a powder?

• 49:49Speaker 00

  It's just a powder. You like, you put into like a water bottle, just like we would shake it up. But one thing for me, too, is when we were formulating these, I was like, how how do we want to set ours apart? And so I love a lot of brands out there. There are a lot of great brands on the market. But for us personally, I didn't want a bunch of natural flavors, a bunch of chemicals. So I we flavor ours with organic fruit juice powder. So like for our strawberry lemonade, it's organic strawberry powder and then some lemon extract. And then you get the pretty red color, you know, no food dyes, no, not even beet juice to enhance it. It's just pretty. Like guava grapefruit is derived from, you know, the citrus of the grapefruit and the guava fruit. And so and it's no sugar. I think there might be one gram of sugar in the strawberry lemonade, just because the strawberry. But yeah, so we formulated it of just like, we want it to just be super clean, no chemicals, just flavors from, you know.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  The things that are here on earth.

• 50:35Gary Brecka?

  Right. That's so, that's so amazing.

• 50:36Speaker 00

  But my kids are cool with it. They know like, and we try to educate them. We don't try to shame, you know, they've had donuts. They've gone to birthday parties. They live their lives, but they know that we make healthier decisions and, and we don't view it as a control thing. We really try to educate them. Like, we don't have food diets because they're not good for us and our brains. And we want to be strong and healthy. And so our kids from a young age, like you could ask my kid, you know, do you drink Gatorade? And he's like, no, sir. They have food diets.

• 50:59Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, I found a mom, a mom.

• 51:02Gary Brecka?

  Gee, I should throw them on the podcast. I had my nieces on the podcast a few, few months ago.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  I haven't listened, but I saw clips and I'm like, they're so cute.

• 51:09Gary Brecka?

  And it went crazy viral. For a while, my team was like, I don't know if this is on brand. I'm like, no, this is great. Let's, let's throw it out there. And Malia wanted to do it. I'll give Malia credit.

• 51:18Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 51:19Gary Brecka?

  And, um, and they were, they were just so attentive and alert and, and engaged. I mean, even I was sitting there interviewing them, kind of, you guys are really smart. And, and, but they talked about like, from a kid's perspective, and if you're, if you're a mom or dad and you've got young kids and, and you, you want them to be educated like her kids or like my, uh, brother and sister in laws. Watch that podcast because they feel super empowered.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 51:46Gary Brecka?

  And they were really happy about it.

• 51:47Speaker 00

  They're passionate about it.

• 51:48Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, they're passionate about it. And she's like, you know, they bring their, um, their, their grapes and their, you know, their own little, um, snack bags. And when the candies and cookies and pastries and pies and brownies and all are being passed around, they're having their own snacks and they're fine with it.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:00Gary Brecka?

  And it's, it's kind of like their, their, their individuality, you know, and, and, um, and it doesn't, they don't feel like they're missing out. And other kids don't tease them. They actually feel like, you know, I'm, I'm an individual. This is my thing that I do. And what's really interesting is they even talked about how, um, their friends get really curious. Well, why don't my parents have me do that? I want to do that too. And, and so it has kind of the opposite of.

• 52:26Speaker 00

  There's a shift happening too.

• 52:28Gary Brecka?

  I, I thought, you know?

• 52:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:30Gary Brecka?

  And, and there's a replacement for all of these things. You can take Doritos and have Masa chips.

• 52:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, we do homemade pizza nights. Like, my kids aren't deprived. And that's where I think that's a power struggle. Like, we can't protect our kids forever.

• 52:41Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 52:41Speaker 00

  But we can empower them to make healthy choices, especially while they're living. With us and understand why and to see how they feel, you know? And I think sometimes, you know, I have mom friends. I'm really blessed. I have a great, healthy community of mom friends. So when we go to birthday parties, it's like, don't worry, I made the simple mills cake and I did the buttercream frosting homemade, you know, and you're like, thank you.

• 52:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  It's also cool to let our kids live and you know, and sometimes if they have something and they're like, that hurt my tummy. And it's like, yeah, you know, this is why we make healthy choices. But I think there's a movement happening too. And people want to feel good and they want to boost their kids' immune systems. And the amount of kids that are, you know, medicated with ADHD and it's like, well, if I was having Fruit Loops for breakfast, I'd probably have brain fog too. And then kids are bouncing off the walls. And so we have to think about blood sugar for kids too, and setting them up for success. And, and kids don't know to say like, I have brain fog, but they'll, they'll be hyper, you know, and so empowering them to see like, this is how, this is why we do this. And so they don't feel like they're being controlled, but they feel empowered, like you said.

• 53:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, no, I think that's, I think that's so important. And I think the best thing that you can do is you can educate your kids. So that they can be, you know, independent, you give them that independence and, and, you know, like, your kids could probably go into a grocery store and figure out what is that, that, that they, that they want to eat. So, you know, now in your, is, is your practice active? I mean, are you?

• 53:52Speaker 00

  Retired.

• 53:53Gary Brecka?

  Okay, so you're, you're retired.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  That's what I say, I retired. But that's why I started my online community, because I have all these people asking, and the same thing with the formulating of things, you know, with the protein powder, it's like, people are always asking me. So I'm like, well, why don't we just go and kind of create our own? And what do I like on the market? And what would I change? And so that's kind of the inspiration for a lot of the things that we're formulating, like, we have a healthy lemonade, no sugar. Remember, Country Time Lemonade?

• 54:14Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:15Speaker 00

  So we're just doing that healthy.

• 54:16Gary Brecka?

  I remember Tang.

• 54:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 54:17Gary Brecka?

  That's how, that's how bad my childhood was. Tang was like, that was awful.

• 54:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, so we're just creating healthier products, like a healthy hot chocolate, no sugar, we sweeten it with monk fruit, you know? And so I want my kids to have these normal experiences. But anyway, I was, I would be asked about, you know, these products. And that was kind of where the cancer journey was a blessing. It pivoted me to kind of get creative with my career. And then again, people are always asking, and I don't work with people anymore one on one, but we have a community where they get access to functional medicine lab testing. I have practitioners that do consults. So we can help people and equip them, but we don't, you know, prescribe or diagnose or anything.

• 54:49Gary Brecka?

  Right. No, that's, that's so awesome. Well, um, so tell my community how they can. Find you.

• 54:55Speaker 00

  Well, on Instagram, I like educating. That's like my mission, you know, is just equipping people with information, healthy swaps. I've shared my whole cancer journey and that's just at Taylor Duke's Wellness. And then we have all of our products at.

• 55:06Gary Brecka?

  T A Y L O R.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  T A Y L O R.

• 55:08Gary Brecka?

  Yep.

• 55:09Speaker 00

  Duke's, D U K E S Wellness. Yeah.

• 55:11Gary Brecka?

  Wellness on Instagram and your community, it's a paid community and.

• 55:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's just $39 a month. It's like no strings attached, cancel if you want, but it it creates and do live calls, you know, once a month with just them to answer questions. They get a pick my brain and then it's really beautiful. There's this community of people all over that have connected like minded moms. Usually most of them are moms answering, you know, what'd you do for your kid for this? And so it's really neat. We bring on guest experts and then yeah. My, all my products are just at shop dot Taylor Duke's Wellness dot com.

• 55:39Gary Brecka?

  That's amazing. So I, I, I wind down all my podcasts by asking my guests the same question. Then we're going to go into my, I have a VIP community too. So when the podcast is over, we're going to go into the, the VIP room and I'll just allow them to ask the direct questions. Cause I, I really believe in building this community because I don't think that we can make a real change in the world just by putting out information. I think you have to affect the habits of people's lives, right? I mean, if you, if, if you want to lose weight, you have to adopt the habits of somebody who's interested in losing weight.

• 56:13Speaker 00

  Right.

• 56:13Gary Brecka?

  Just, it's not just enough to have a goal to lose weight and, and I want to do something very similar to what you're doing. And, and that is build a community, hundreds of thousands of like-minded, highly educated people that can go out and empower other people to make changes in their life. And that's, that's how we do it. I, in fact, I think the day of the celebrity influencer and the online influencer are over, if not severely numbered. If you aren't building a community, I don't.

• 56:37Speaker 00

  Agree with that.

• 56:38Gary Brecka?

  In service to.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  And allowing a place where like-minded people, you know, you can't go and do all these meetups, but you can foster a place and I love that you do that.

• 56:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. Yeah. We did the same thing and I, and I encourage all of my peers in my, you know, and, and in the industry to do the same thing. Because people are looking for guidance and, you know, and a like-minded community to spend, spend time with. And it's, it's really empowering to do that. So. So here's the question. You ready?

• 57:02Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm ready. Let's fire it away.

• 57:04Gary Brecka?

  What is it? What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 57:08Speaker 00

  I think it's a loaded question, and I think it's not a simple answer, but I would say if I could break it down, there's the spiritual, the physical, and then kind of the mental emotional. So spiritually, for me, that's having a relationship with God, and I'm so thankful that I have that relationship with Him and the hope beyond my circumstances, going through what I've walked through. Like, if I didn't have the hope of heaven, and I'm facing a cancer diagnosis at 33, that's hard, you know, and that's where my peace comes from and my joy and my hope. And so I think spiritually, that's going to look different for everybody, but that's for me personally, I think that's so, so important to know your God-given purpose and your gifts.

• 57:42Gary Brecka?

  Couldn't agree with you more.

• 57:43Speaker 00

  And then physically, of course, everything we've talked about, you know, eating healthy foods, sleeping, getting back to the basics. People overcomplicate health, and I have all the fancy, not, not anything like Gary, let's be clear, but I have a bunch of these modalities, and people, what gadget should I buy? And I say, we have to get back to the basics when it comes to our physical health. We have to eat healthy, we have to move our body, we have to get sleep, manage our stress. So there's a lot of things physically we can be doing. And then lastly, I would say, just emotionally and mentally, you know, do you have purpose? Community, do you have like-minded people around you cheering you on and being with you in the heart, you know, and then are you managing your stress? And are you doing, and this kind of comes back to spiritually too, like, are you doing something that fulfills you, especially if you're working? Because you're spending way too much time during your

• 58:26Speaker 00

  life, working, and if you're not doing something that gives you purpose, that you're using your gifts, I feel like mentally and emotionally, you're going to be stressed and empty.

• 58:33Gary Brecka?

  I totally, totally agree with you. Wow. Taylor, this has been amazing. 1,000%, I'm going to have you back on the podcast. I love following your journey. My community's going to love you.

• 58:44Speaker 00

  You're sweet.

• 58:45Gary Brecka?

  You ready to go into the Ultimate Human VIP community?

• 58:48Speaker 00

  Let's go. We're going to fire away for the VIP people.

• 58:50Gary Brecka?

  Let's go fire it up. And if you're interested in becoming an Ultimate Human VIP, just go to theultimatehuman.com. You can sign up there, join my VIP community. You can cancel at any time. This is where we pour ourselves into you guys. We answer your questions. I open up live Q and As. I always give them access to my guests. We're going to bring in functional medicine practitioners that do cases. We do Q and As, we do challenges, we do all kinds of things together, and we're even planning our first big experience together as a community. So head over to theultimatehuman.com and sign up to join my Ultimate Human VIP community. Until next time, that's just science.