The King of Good Times and His Shady Sky Mansion w/ Zach Cherry

Can you imagine living in a mansion on a skyscraper 400 feet above the ground? No? Neither can the fugitive businessman Vijay Mallya, who fled the country before ever setting foot in it. Laci welcomes Zach Cherry (Severance, You) to strap on a wingsuit and dive into the story of the self-proclaimed "King of Good Times," his flashy airline, and how his downfall led to the creation of India’s Fugitive Economic Offenders Act. Stay schemin’! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://vt.co/lifestyle/relationships/billionaires-luxury-20-million-sky-mansion-sits-on-top-of-a-400ft-skyscraper-but-the-tycoon-may-never-live-in-it https://www.businessinsider.com/sky-mansion-33-story-luxury-apartment-complex-mallya-india-2024-3 https://www.business-standard.com/about/who-is-vijay-mallya#goog_rewarded https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/vijay-mallya-becomes-first-person-to-be-declared-a-fugitive-economic-offender/articleshow/67394758.cms https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/business/vijay-mallya-extradition.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/business/dealbook/india-vijay-mallya-debt-economy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/21/business/worldbusiness/21air.html?_r=0 https://www.domain.com.au/news/vijay-mallyas-mansion-on-top-of-a-skyscraper-in-india-will-probably-never-be-lived-in/ https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2012/06/ambani-residence-photos-inside-architecture

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• 3:26Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And today, we have a blast from my personal past, who's a first-time guest at the church. So, everybody stand up and wave to your neighbor. Yes, today, we have an actor, a comedian, and a fellow OG from UCB. He recently had to battle it out with his innie, for the love of his outies, wife, as Dylan from the hit Apple TV series Severance. You might also know him from other hit TV shows and movies like Fallout, Secession. My favorite, you and Shang-Chi and the Legend of Ten Rings. This man is on the grind, y'all. He was also in Spider-Man, okay? I be knowing his IMDb without even having to look, okay? Because I be gags and we love it.

• 4:11Laci Mosley?

  Congregation, please welcome the incredibly talented Zach Cherry to the show. Hi, Zach.

• 4:17Speaker 04

  Hi, I'm so glad to finally be welcomed into the halls of the congregation.

• 4:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's been so long since you've been to church. I heard you only come on hot holiday, like Easter, you know?

• 4:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I do it on leap year too, so it's very rare.

• 4:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's hard to catch you, probably because you're so booked.

• 4:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:39Laci Mosley?

  Booked and blessed.

• 4:40Speaker 04

  Hopefully, God will forgive.

• 4:42Laci Mosley?

  Um, I'll talk to him. I don't know about that.

• 4:45Speaker 04

  Please, please.

• 4:48Laci Mosley?

  I feel like the last time I saw you was like at our mutual cult, uh, party, which was like we used to do, remember DCM?

• 4:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, that must have been.

• 4:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the Dog Close Marathon in New York City. So, I mean, other than seeing you on my TV screen, which I always love to see, it's very much that Leonardo DiCaprio meme, like, ah!

• 5:08Speaker 04

  But yeah, that was many years ago.

• 5:10Laci Mosley?

  It was many years ago. Well, how have you been, Zach?

• 5:13Speaker 04

  I've been good. I've been, you know, trying to stay busy.

• 5:17Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I don't know if it's trying. It's very much, very much giving busy.

• 5:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:22Laci Mosley?

  So, I'm glad we scammed a little bit of your time. I was telling you, um, that I'm wearing an L.A. Kings jersey because I'm recording from home today, or not jersey, but hoodie. And I told you I'm an L.A. Kings fan now because they gave me this hoodie. I went to this, like, um, my publicist, who I love so much, Jordan, shout out to you. She was like, oh, do you want to go to this, like, hockey game? And I was like, okay, yeah, like, let me bring my homegirl. It's, you know, February. I've never been to a hockey game before. Oh, no, I've been to hockey games, but I went to like the Dallas Stars, like, when I was a kid. They used to be like a treat for us. But so I haven't been in a minute. So, I go and we're sitting in the section, we're all talking and stuff.

• 6:05Laci Mosley?

  Like, you know how they have people ride the Zamboni? And if you don't know what a Zamboni is, it's like the ice softener. So after they skate a bunch, it puts a bunch of like grooves in the ice. So then at like half, it's not even halftime, but I guess it is halftime. But then they drive around the Zamboni that like re-smoothes the ice.

• 6:22Speaker 04

  Yes, but they have, they have people ride it other than like the professional driver?

• 6:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 6:27Speaker 04

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 6:28Laci Mosley?

  The driver's on the inside and then whoever is like, whether it be like, oh, you know, little make a wish baby or you know, like a celebrity or something, they'll ride on top and like wave to the crowd.

• 6:42Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 6:43Laci Mosley?

  It's kind of funny and awkward because you have to like ride it all the way around the rink multiple times.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  And it moves slow.

• 6:51Laci Mosley?

  It moves slow. It moves slow. And so they were, um, there was this beautiful woman from, um, three, six, triple eight, who was riding on the Zamboni and it was moving real slow and they were playing like, they not like us. They, you know, like all this stuff, you know, it's like, okay, this is so cute. And they got a black woman on the ice tonight. Like that's, that's one black person on the ice tonight. Cause you know, that's great.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 7:17Laci Mosley?

  And so then I'm talking to people and I'm running into friends, like in the section that we were put in for the hockey game. And I was like slowly realizing like something was like a little bit of a scam. Like, cause like they came over and they gave me this hoodie, like in a little bag with my name on it and stuff. And I was like, oh, thank you so much. And then we started looking up around like the stadium at the tickers. And you know how the tickers will have like, oh, the score and then like they'll have something else. Well, I saw like a black and green flag and I was like, hmm, that's interesting. And then I started to look around the section and slowly realized, I was like, oh my God, it is Negro night at the hockey game.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  It was, it was surprise Negro night for you.

• 8:01Laci Mosley?

  It was surprise Negro night and it was February. So, but I'm like, it's the last week in February. I was like, are y'all, are y'all for real?

• 8:10Speaker 04

  They, they, they had the test and they had to get it done before the end of the month.

• 8:16Laci Mosley?

  Yo, I thought we win cuz like, I was like, oh, this is a popping ticket because, um, you know, the Kings have a rivalry with like, that Canada team, don't get me to lie. But they've been beefing and fighting on the ice and stuff, so I was like, oh, they're giving us good tickets like, cuz you know, we work in TV, that they want us to be seen, and I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, y'all, it's Negro Night.

• 8:38Speaker 04

  Well, it sounds like it was a great night.

• 8:40Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it was super fun. No, I loved it. Like, if I'm gonna, you know, go to a random hockey game, I'd want it to be Negro Night.

• 8:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's the one.

• 8:46Laci Mosley?

  But it was very funny cuz I was like, oh, look, they got a little Black Queen on the, on the ice machine. Then I was like, oh, they playing They Not Like Us with the orchestra.

• 8:54Speaker 04

  It's slowly dawning on me.

• 8:57Laci Mosley?

  I was looking around the section, I'm like, everybody is black in this section. Okay.

• 9:06Laci Mosley?

  What is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Has anything weird happened to you like Negro Night at the L.A. Kings game?

• 9:13Speaker 04

  I mean, that's, if you're gonna get scammed, that's the way to do it, cuz you got a hoodie and you got some tickets to a hockey game.

• 9:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was great. No, no.

• 9:21Speaker 04

  My relationship to scams, in general, I'm pro scam, I guess. Or not pro, I'm...

• 9:28Laci Mosley?

  But you're just like punching up, not down.

• 9:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I'm so, I'm, I'm neutral, I'm soft pro. You know, I'm not a full-on supporter, but I feel like sometimes scams, you know those, like hackers who will like hack a company and then be like, hey, this is how we did it, we were just doing it for your best interest, like...

• 9:45Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 9:46Speaker 04

  Some scams can be like that, where you hear about it once, and then you know, okay, that they're not gonna get me that way, you know, so like, sometimes I, I, that's my, my general thing. I don't have a ton of, I don't get got myself very often. I, I'm very vigilant. Um, and that's not an invitation for people to try to get me.

• 10:08Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I'm sorry, I did, I said, oh, like that, cuz I was like, you have such a like, a, like a very kind, sweet face with kind eyes, I feel like I would be trying to get you all the

• 10:18Speaker 04

  No, I keep, my head is on the swivel, I'm, I'm aware. My, my dad is a very, I, I won't go so far as to say paranoid, but very aware gentleman. Um, and he has instilled that in me. I think the closest thing to me getting scammed is I've scammed myself a few times. I was a I was a Beanie Baby investor as a as a child.

• 10:40Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you know I covered those.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I thought that was like, I thought that was a good financial choice.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  And, you know, so I've fallen for things like that, but but I haven't been duped, you know. I've duped myself.

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  I would argue I covered Beanie Babies on this show with Lisa Gilroy, and I would argue, um, I don't know, Zach, that was kind of a scam that they got you with. You thought a plushy toy was really, that was already saturated in the market, was gonna appreciate it so much value.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Well, it was.

• 11:12Laci Mosley?

  Listen, I'm not knocking it. There's people invested in Bitcoin. There's all types of little scams to like invest money in. I'm not knocking it.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  I didn't get in early enough, so I guess I did get scammed, but I at least got, I did also like the Beanie Baby. So I got the little.

• 11:25Laci Mosley?

  What was your favorite?

• 11:26Speaker 04

  I had Sly the Fox.

• 11:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 11:28Speaker 04

  Sly the Fox. That was my guy.

• 11:30Laci Mosley?

  Was that a rare collectible?

• 11:32Speaker 04

  No, that was like the, that was like the least rare imaginable.

• 11:37Laci Mosley?

  So did you just have like lots of Sly's or just?

• 11:40Speaker 04

  No, I had one Sly, and that was the one that I didn't treat like a collectible. Sly was my friend, you know, Sly and me, we hung out. Sly was out of the box. Sly didn't have a tag. Sly was like, you know, hanging around.

• 11:52Laci Mosley?

  I wonder how Sly felt about that, honestly.

• 11:55Speaker 04

  I bet he felt great because all the other Beanie Babies didn't get, didn't get to do anything.

• 12:00Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, why I don't deserve to be in the plastic? Why Sly out here on the street like the family stone? Like, why can't I be?

• 12:07Speaker 04

  I guess it depends if they follow Toy Story rules or not, because the toys wanted to be played with, so.

• 12:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:15Speaker 04

  I assume Sly was under the Toy Story rules, so he was, he was happy.

• 12:19Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. Sly was an investment opportunity, and I feel like if I'm Sly, I'm definitely like the side chick that you hit up like after Thanksgiving, the, you know, every, every Valentine's Day, I'm getting a little dick dropped off, you know, on the 15th. Like, I feel like, me personally, if I was Sly, I would feel slighted.

• 12:39Speaker 04

  No, Sly was the one who was traveling with me everywhere. Sly was, Sly was like my ride or die. Sly wasn't the side piece. Sly was in the trenches with me.

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  The trenches, so Sly was your bottom bitch? See how this is?

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Look, I'm gonna have to see, I'm gonna have to get in touch with Sly.

• 13:00Speaker 04

  Probably Sly is still at my parents' house. So, you know, I'll have to, you know, check in. I, to be honest, I never.

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  You didn't even bring Sly to your nice New York home. That's crazy.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  That says a lot.

• 13:12Laci Mosley?

  Okay, well, see, I, I give that, it is a kind of bit of a scam, but it was like a very popular one for like investing in things like that. So I, I think that you might be a little susceptible, like if we hit you with like an investment opportunity.

• 13:28Speaker 04

  But not, I will say not anymore. As a child, that was much more likely. I also remember I one time, I was at some museum and they were selling, um, they were selling like replicas of old time coins and bills and stuff. And it was like, you know, I would pay $10 and I would get a replica of like a $200 gold piece. And I thought that I could then flip that. So.

• 13:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh, because you were gonna tell people it was real.

• 13:59Speaker 04

  No, I thought it wasn't real. I was like, why, I was like, are they stupid? Why are they selling this $500 coin for $10? I didn't understand. So as, as a boy, I was, I, I could get got with the promise of riches. But now I'm, I'm much more cautious.

• 14:15Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay, I'll take it.

• 14:18Speaker 04

  I guess we'll, we'll find out if that's true. Uh, but I think I'm much more cautious.

• 14:24Laci Mosley?

  I think you are. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you the benefit. It seems like you were just trying to make investments. And, and investments can be, um, a rife place for scammers as well. But I do think that it's a little less risk averse than other scams where you're trying to get rich quick. Cause at least you know you're taking a risk, right? One could argue the whole stock market is a scam, so.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. I, I am, I, I am in there, but I'm not in the crypto world. I'm, I, the, the super high risk stuff, I left that behind. That was middle school me. Now I'm, you know.

• 14:58Laci Mosley?

  You recognize a Beanie Baby when you see one.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I try to. I try to. I run it by Sly. I go Sly, how does this sound to you?

• 15:06Laci Mosley?

  Sly is like, don't talk to me. You left me at your parents' house for like ten years. And I'm all raggedy from traveling with you while I look at my, my perfectly pristine friends.

• 15:17Speaker 04

  That is true. I can't, I gotta give Sly that. He looks, he's, he's on, he's had some tough times.

• 15:24Laci Mosley?

  Not some tough times.

• 15:25Speaker 04

  Sly has lived. You can tell Sly has lived.

• 15:28Laci Mosley?

  Not you dragging Sly through the mud.

• 15:31Speaker 04

  I mean, Sly looks great, but you can do, there's some miles on Sly.

• 15:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Sly looks great for his age.

• 15:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:38Laci Mosley?

  So good for his age. Okay.

• 15:42Speaker 04

  People like hearing that.

• 15:44Laci Mosley?

  They do. I mean, yeah, like, once you get to a certain age, you wanna look good for your age.

• 15:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 15:51Laci Mosley?

  For me personally, right now, if someone's like, you are good for your, well, actually, people do say that to me, and I'll be like, thank you. But they give me a younger age. They'll be like, oh, my God, you look like a fetus. And I'll be like, Google.

• 16:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

• 16:05Laci Mosley?

  Like, I'm surprised you can walk. I'm like, I learned yesterday.

• 16:08Speaker 04

  Yeah. I was just about to say, I'm surprised, yeah, I'm surprised you can walk.

• 16:14Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much. It was very hard. It's hard being a baby entrepreneur out here.

• 16:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. And you, you know, you're, you're, you're way ahead of your age with the technology. I'm surprised, you know, I couldn't use a computer when I was that age.

• 16:28Laci Mosley?

  These babies got iPads. They get, they watching Bluey. They putting it on themselves.

• 16:33Speaker 04

  That is true.

• 16:34Laci Mosley?

  They watching, what's her name? Miss Rebecca or something like that? Miss Rachel. Miss Rachel. They love Miss Rachel.

• 16:40Speaker 04

  They're making FaceTime calls. Yeah.

• 16:42Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, that's the game I should have got in. I need to make a podcast for babies.

• 16:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:49Speaker 04

  Hey, they are the, they have the access. So, yeah, they, they're spending the money right now.

• 16:54Laci Mosley?

  Right. They giving them streams. Like, I need to get it. Like, I told you, y'all need to, out there congregation, you need to be playing this podcast in the other room for your baby. Only babies, because if they can repeat words and talk, then it's too inappropriate. But like, babies, I feel like.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  Why not? Yeah. Miss Rachel is big business.

• 17:12Laci Mosley?

  She is.

• 17:13Speaker 04

  You gotta take a little bit of her corner.

• 17:16Laci Mosley?

  I need to. Hi, babies. Hi, babies.

• 17:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's take a, just take a quick moment to say hi to the babies out there.

• 17:24Laci Mosley?

  We're gonna go to a quick moment. Hi. Oh, see, okay, Zach, you got a good baby voice. I feel like people with the babies would like your voice.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  I think so, yeah. I do, I think I have a gentle baby tone.

• 17:34Laci Mosley?

  You do?

• 17:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:35Laci Mosley?

  It's, it's nice on the ear. So, you know, maybe you corner that part. I didn't, I, are they-

• 17:40Speaker 04

  We'll talk.

• 17:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we'll talk because I was like, are there men in the baby space? When I was a baby, there was Blue's Clues, so that was Steve.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. Steve was a very gentle presence.

• 17:52Laci Mosley?

  He was. And then he came back in the pandemic and said an apology for leaving us and I cried.

• 17:57Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 17:58Laci Mosley?

  I actually cried as an adult. I was like, what is happening to me?

• 18:01Speaker 04

  Which, which means it's not too late for me and Sly to reconcile. If, if Steve can come back after all those years, I, I still have a chance.

• 18:10Laci Mosley?

  Wow, that's what you deduced from this? I don't know. I'm, I'm speaking for Sly and it's gonna be hard.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  Okay. I'll put the work in. I'll put the time in.

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• 21:28Laci Mosley?

  Well, let's get to my favorite segment here, Historic Hoodwigs. This is where I will regale Zach with famous cons, capers, group of criminals. We don't know yet, maybe we love them, maybe we hate them, we'll see. But Zach, today we're talking about a billionaire tycoon who built a $20 million Sky Mansion replica of the White House on top of a 33-story skyscraper. But he may never get to live in it because he's not allowed back in the country.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  This is a promising start for me.

• 22:03Speaker 04

  I do, I like, I like rich guys who do, like, who just do wild stuff like that. You know, like, I think if you have a lot of extra money, that's what you should be doing. Build the White House on a skyscraper, why not?

• 22:17Laci Mosley?

  So that's better to you than like getting involved in the government?

• 22:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, 100%.

• 22:23Laci Mosley?

  I agree. I agree.

• 22:26Speaker 04

  Just do something weird that in, in 50 years, people can go like, did you hear about this guy who was alive who built that weird, you know, like, that's-

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  Exactly.

• 22:34Speaker 04

  That's the goal.

• 22:35Laci Mosley?

  Don't be bothering us. Like, why you got all this money? Why are you bothering us?

• 22:40Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 22:41Laci Mosley?

  You could easily be building a Sky Mansion in a, in a country you can't get back into.

• 22:46Speaker 04

  That's where he maybe blew it a little bit, but I'm excited to find out how that happened.

• 22:52Laci Mosley?

  So Castle in the Sky. The Ghost Mansion is balanced pretty dangerously. It's 400 feet above the ground on top of a luxury apartment complex in Bangalore, India. It's held up by experimental sentelevers, which will hopefully keep it from crashing down on the apartment dwellers below. I don't like the word "hopefully" when it comes to crushing me.

• 23:19Speaker 04

  Not at all, not at all. I also don't like the word "experimental" when it comes to something I'm living in.

• 23:27Laci Mosley?

  Come on, Zach, you live in New York City. Now, you wouldn't take an experimental apartment if it had like rent control and like very large square footage and maybe upstairs and downstairs and it was like prime location, but everything about it's perfect, but it's experimental.

• 23:45Speaker 04

  Do I know what the experiment is?

• 23:47Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 23:49Speaker 04

  I would definitely have to think about it. You're 100% right. You're, but this isn't in New York. I don't know what the market is like in Bangalore.

• 23:56Laci Mosley?

  Bangalore? I don't either, but clearly.

• 24:00Speaker 04

  These pictures are crazy.

• 24:01Laci Mosley?

  I know they are because this building looks like, I mean, I don't, I don't know how to describe it. How would you describe this building?

• 24:09Speaker 04

  Definitely Drake wants to shoot a music video there someday. 100%.

• 24:15Laci Mosley?

  I feel like Drake is hiding out from a new rap beef that he started that didn't get settled with a lawsuit and there's a drone that flies over and he throws a shoe at it.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  Yes, that is exactly the video that like this screams Drake drone shoe video.

• 24:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it really does. And the fact that they had the nerve to build a lawn up there.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, it, I will admit, it looks way more precarious than I thought it would. When you said there was like a, a building built on top of a skyscraper, I don't know why I thought it would make sense. This really, it looks like a Jenga situation. Like it looks like someone just picked this house up and plopped it on top and is just like walking away and hoping nothing moves.

• 25:02Laci Mosley?

  And the center levers are these two things on the sides. You see these right here?

• 25:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't, that to me, I feel like I, I could make that with pipe cleaners for like a school project and it wouldn't stand.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, it looks like a spider web.

• 25:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's giving like egg dry, okay Spider-Man, you would know.

• 25:23Laci Mosley?

  But like.

• 25:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I went through an intense, you know, spider research phase before I was able to participate in the Spider-Man universe. So, yeah, that, that, according to my research, that looks like spider webs.

• 25:36Laci Mosley?

  It does look like spider webs, which I mean, in theory are pretty strong until like a human walks through them, or like a strong gust of wind. So, not really that strong. It's giving me like egg drop. I feel like I would put like a be in school and have like a raw egg and like drop it off a building. It would not survive. I don't think it would survive.

• 25:56Speaker 04

  It's like a fifth place egg drop.

• 25:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 26:00Speaker 04

  You know, you're not, you're not meddling. You're not in the top three. You have some good ideas, but, but your egg did not survive.

• 26:09Laci Mosley?

  It was for effort. It was E for effort, fifth for effort. Also what's striking me is like, obviously, people had to get up there and build that. And on top of that, like, who is like maintenance in the grass? Are gardeners going up there? I'm not trimming no hedges up there.

• 26:25Speaker 04

  Well, especially if the man of the house isn't even allowed in the country. I'm gonna let it get overgrown. He's not, he's not checking.

• 26:33Laci Mosley?

  And does, do you see a large fence around this? I'm seeing like a little bit of a fence situation, but it's not really giving like, we not gonna topple over the edge.

• 26:44Speaker 04

  No, it looks scary. It looks scary. I don't like heights and I would not, I would legitimately not even go up there, I think.

• 26:52Laci Mosley?

  Same. It's giving me anxiety. And it's also giving me like, what if you had, you have a mansion this big? You have to have a family. Like, I don't want my kids flying off the house. I mean, cause you know, think about it, like, parents put, responsible parents, you know, if they have a pool in the backyard, they're gonna put that gate over the pool if their kids are a certain age. But like, I don't, like accidental drowning worries me, but like, my kids flying off the building?

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Yeah. The gate, the gate needs to be around the entire house and you need to not let the kids even near it. That's, that's where you need the gate for this house.

• 27:27Laci Mosley?

  They don't leave the house unless they going down the elevator to the bottom of the building. I don't think they need to be seeing a view.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  And they need to be wearing those, like, wingsuits at all times, just in case.

• 27:40Laci Mosley?

  Everyone, y'all get to the house. All right, y'all strap in.

• 27:44Speaker 04

  Here's your wingsuit. Yeah, if you have friends over, they gotta get the wingsuits on.

• 27:49Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm, and sign a waiver.

• 27:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, you, you need a lot of, you need a lot of, uh, logistics to come visit this house.

• 27:56Laci Mosley?

  You really do. And so, the, we know that it's 400 feet in the air. It's clearly not looking very, uh, stable to me. The house includes 40,000 square feet of living space over two floors, almost as much as 55,000 square feet of the actual White House in Washington DC. It has a rooftop helipad, it has dramatic colonnades. I'm guessing those are like the pillars, like, like the White House? Uh, a traditional porch, banks of windows, vast gardens, an infinity pool. I don't want an infinity pool off the edge of a 400 building.

• 28:37Speaker 04

  I can already see infinity just from being up there, yeah.

• 28:41Laci Mosley?

  I don't need to feel like I'm floating towards infinity and beyond. No, thank you. Um, and it's got a 360-degree city view. The infinity pool is actually off the edge of the sky deck, which sounds even worse. Do we have a, we have a video here with some drone footage in the air? And let's see what we can, like, see through the drone footage. Oh. This music is scary.

• 29:09Speaker 04

  Yep, very dramatic music.

• 29:10Laci Mosley?

  You're gonna die up here.

• 29:15Laci Mosley?

  Say your last words.

• 29:18Laci Mosley?

  Why would I go up there?

• 29:25Speaker 04

  Little bird just flew by.

• 29:27Laci Mosley?

  And I think the bird was flying lower to the building. I don't like that. I don't like that.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I don't wanna, I, they, you said there's a helipad. I don't, I don't trust landing a helicopter on this already precarious.

• 29:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 29:43Speaker 04

  You know.

• 29:44Laci Mosley?

  It's a helipad on top of the, this feels like a sandwich on the sandwich on the sandwich. It's a helipad on top of the two-story mansion, on top of the lawn and the infinity pool, on top of the building.

• 29:59Speaker 04

  Yes. Yeah, that's too many.

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  And helicopters, look, I watched the session, all that wind, all that shaking, no.

• 30:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're like blowing people around. You're already, you're already at risk of blowing off of this thing at any second.

• 30:17Laci Mosley?

  You already got your wind suit on.

• 30:18Speaker 04

  Wind. Yeah. So we don't need to add an extra source of wind up here.

• 30:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm like, I think there's plenty of wind. Okay, but that's just based on what we can see, right, from the drone footage in the air. Um, like, is there an Oval Office or Lincoln's bedroom in there? There better be a statue of MLK. I know that's not next to the White House, but I just feel like that would be cool to have, you know, um.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Well, I wonder how updated this is, cuz they, they might have got rid of some of that stuff.

• 30:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they may take MLK down. Um, you know, we're living in trying times. But, okay, so we don't know what's in there. No one's actually been inside the mansion because the man who commissioned it fled the country before it was finished. So, let's get to the king of good times here. We're talking about VJ, okay, I'm gonna say this last name once. VJ Malia. And so, VJ Malia, this is him, he looks like he's like, got an idea for a mansion on top of an unstable building. Like, look at him. What are these sunglasses about? They look like he was like, he went missing in the seventies. His hair is very luscious.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.

• 31:32Laci Mosley?

  He's got swag. If someone walks into a room and they're like, look, we wanna build the White House, gonna be a huge tourist attraction. All the dignitaries are gonna wanna go, all the bad bitches are gonna wanna go. All the, you know, people who have the ideation are gonna wanna go. We're gonna get everybody up there. And I need you to look like this, if you're gonna give me this pitch.

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Yes, this is your guy, absolutely.

• 31:53Laci Mosley?

  When they're like, he's got a mansion, he has to come in and like, there has to be like a little fog machine for me. And maybe that dramatic music like.

• 32:02Speaker 04

  I think that's what that was in the video. I think that just emanates off VJ. Anywhere he is, you just hear that, you hear that soundtrack.

• 32:10Laci Mosley?

  And he commissioned the house after decades of being one of the richest people in India. He was born into wealth and then turned his family's brewing business into a sprawling conglomerate called the United Breweries Group, which makes King Fisher's beer.

• 32:27Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 32:28Laci Mosley?

  You know that beer?

• 32:29Speaker 04

  I know that beer.

• 32:29Laci Mosley?

  Is it tasty?

• 32:30Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 32:31Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I've never had it, but it looks.

• 32:34Speaker 04

  I've, I, I think it's like the beer in India, but I also have no, I, I have no real reason to believe that other than for some reason that's in my head, so someone will correct me.

• 32:46Laci Mosley?

  That's some good advertisement, if they're like, the beer in India, like, okay.

• 32:50Speaker 04

  But yeah, I've definitely, I've definitely heard of and had that.

• 32:53Laci Mosley?

  And they distribute a wide variety of products, including alcohol, chemicals, and more. I mean, I guess those are all kind of in the same vein, chemicals, alcohol.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  You gotta be careful though, you don't wanna mix up your deliveries.

• 33:05Laci Mosley?

  We make it all in the same warehouse, all in the same factory. Oops.

• 33:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know, I don't know if I want my brewery also.

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  No, you don't want it in the power plant, you don't wanna.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Hey, I guess if you're gonna conglomerate, that's what you gotta do. That's the only way you become a conglomerate.

• 33:23Laci Mosley?

  You know how like some beers use like the freshest like water from like the Andes? Like they use the freshest runoff from the power plant?

• 33:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:34Laci Mosley?

  You'd be feeling supercharged after that beer.

• 33:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, it has a unique flavor and.

• 33:41Speaker 04

  It makes you feel like no other beer you've ever had.

• 33:46Laci Mosley?

  It makes you feel like, what a vague description of something that's neither good nor bad. It makes you feel like no other beer you've never had.

• 33:53Speaker 04

  I can promise you this, it will make you feel like no other beer you've ever had.

• 34:00Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, let me have some. I want to feel like nothing ever before. I mean, I've never felt death before, but you know, it could be anything.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, some people, you know, new experience.

• 34:11Laci Mosley?

  New experiences. So he also has a stake in India's only Formula One car racing team, Force India. At the height of his powers, he calls himself the king of good times. Okay, I like that.

• 34:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, you kind of have to earn that name, though. I don't know if you can self-proclaim that.

• 34:31Laci Mosley?

  You can't just self-proclaim that you're the king of the times?

• 34:34Speaker 04

  I'll be the judge of that, my man.

• 34:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, let me come see how good the times are. Then we'll decide. So he was calling himself that, though. He was like, I'm, don't call me, don't call me VJ. Call me king of good times. And we're like, VJ's shorter. No, no, no, no. King of good times, Mr. King of good times to you. So at the height of his, you know, kingdom, he published a swimsuit calendar and hung out with celebrities like Lionel Richie. I love Lionel Richie. My one Lionel Richie story is I used to work in a sushi restaurant that he was like a regular in. And so if we had like regular VIP guests, we would get these things called swaniers.

• 35:18Laci Mosley?

  And a swanier is like a little chit that they hand you at the host's desk or the maitre d' or whatever. And it says like what the guests, like what table they're going to be at, what they like, what time they're coming in. And so that you can like kind of have things preset. And so I would always get Lionel Richie. And I would have to put his chopsticks in one of those baby chopstick holders.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  Allegedly, allegedly.

• 35:44Laci Mosley?

  Allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly Lionel Richie cannot use chopsticks.

• 35:49Laci Mosley?

  He was like, you know, I'm from the South, baby. You know, I need my chops.

• 35:52Speaker 04

  I get it.

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  And I would like, take them out. I would put them in the little holders and they would be like on the table, ready for him like that before he even got there. And he was the sweetest guy and he always tipped really well. And I love me some Lionel Richie.

• 36:06Speaker 04

  And hey, he's not going for the fork. He's still, he's still like at least.

• 36:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he's like a part of it.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:13Laci Mosley?

  He's a part of the culture.

• 36:14Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 36:16Laci Mosley?

  You know, and that's why he's classy. That's why he was that king of Mr. Good Times is parties. Okay.

• 36:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:21Laci Mosley?

  Cause Lionel, Lionel knows how to all night long it, okay?

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• 39:34Laci Mosley?

  Also, other celebrity guests include Enrique Iglesias. And Enrique Iglesias came to his, I gotta say it like that. You can't just say Enrique. You gotta say Enrique. Enrique Iglesias.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  I understand.

• 39:47Laci Mosley?

  Say it one time, Zach.

• 39:48Speaker 04

  What was Enrique Iglesias up to?

• 39:51Laci Mosley?

  Oh, oh, yes. So Enrique had come to his 60th birthday party and got a copy of the sexy calendar. Remember that calendar that he made?

• 40:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:00Laci Mosley?

  So Enrique was like, I gotta come get this copy. No, don't mail it to me, king of good times. I gotta come to India myself as a Enrique.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  It looks like a bigger than average calendar. So I understand, you don't want to ship that. You want, you gotta pack that yourself.

• 40:15Laci Mosley?

  I know, they're holding it like a big check. Like Enrique just won a big check of beautiful baddies.

• 40:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness. And so he would have got the calendar, right? So Vijay surrounded himself with a close group of longtime advisors, wore copious diamonds and held business meetings at his house until five in the morning and winked at female journalists. Now, why did he put that in there?

• 40:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't fit the rest of the facts we were just getting. I mean, it's, it's certainly interesting to know about him.

• 40:52Laci Mosley?

  He was a big winker at the women. I was just always winking at them.

• 40:57Speaker 04

  I mean, he was the king of good times, so.

• 41:00Laci Mosley?

  Just, my producer says, it's important, okay? We gotta know. You can't be a king of good times without winking at a lot of female journalists, okay?

• 41:08Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I'll be honest, if we got to the end of this and I didn't know that and then I found out later, I would be upset that it wasn't included. So I'm glad we, I'm glad we got that out of the way.

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  I'm glad we got that. We needed to know, was, was he winking at them or no?

• 41:23Speaker 04

  I was just about to ask.

• 41:24Laci Mosley?

  He's got great eye isolation and I love that for us.

• 41:28Speaker 04

  Do we know, was it just left eye? Was it right eye? Did it depend?

• 41:31Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. Just do we know was it left? Was he a right winker or left? I feel like everyone is a left winker.

• 41:38Speaker 04

  I think I'm a right winker.

• 41:40Laci Mosley?

  Really?

• 41:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:42Laci Mosley?

  Wink. Let's see. Oh, okay. You're a very strong right winker. I'm, I'm trying to right wink and it's giving, like, I got a little, like, something in my eye.

• 41:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can't do the left. Huh.

• 41:53Laci Mosley?

  Actually, I can do both.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, you're, you're an ambidextrous winker.

• 42:00Laci Mosley?

  You tell people that I, I wink at all my guests, skip guys.

• 42:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:05Laci Mosley?

  Regardless of gender, I wink at them all.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  Starting now.

• 42:11Laci Mosley?

  And so the five in the morning thing is also bumping me, business meetings till 5 a.m. Like, were y'all on cocaine?

• 42:18Speaker 04

  I would imagine, yes. I wasn't there.

• 42:21Laci Mosley?

  If you're the king of good times, you gotta have cocaine there, I think.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, the, the king of good times is sort of hints at quite a few things. And one of them is cocaine.

• 42:33Laci Mosley?

  I feel like that's not even a hint. It's like, if you go to something called the king of good times, it's probably like they walking around with it on a platter next to the sushi. They're like, cocaine? Sushi? Cocaine? Sushi?

• 42:43Speaker 04

  He, he, he might have, he might have, like, king of good times.

• 42:47Laci Mosley?

  We are in India. Cocaine? Samosa?

• 42:50Speaker 04

  Well, yes, I guess sushi was because we were just talking about Lionel's sushi habits.

• 42:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 42:56Speaker 04

  But yeah, my guess is he, an alternate nickname for him was like the, the Count of Cocaine or something. If I had to guess.

• 43:03Laci Mosley?

  If I had to guess, which also sounds good to be the count like count one bump, two bump.

• 43:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 43:13Speaker 04

  Yes, that count.

• 43:15Laci Mosley?

  I know, I know you've been like, like a royal count. But I'm childish.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  No, that's what I meant. Well, this is a podcast for babies now, so.

• 43:23Laci Mosley?

  It is a podcast for babies, so we have to appeal to our audience and they haven't gotten it. Yeah, they haven't gotten into their historical studies yet. Okay, but they might know about the count. So we gotta, we gotta, we gotta pander a little bit to my new baby audience. I'm really excited for this, guys. So in other goo-gos and gaga's. In two thousand and seven, a profile noted a Mercedes, a Ferrari and a Bentley parked in his driveway. And ornate living rooms filled with silver gilded furniture. And art objects like a marble statue with a nymph like woman, plus a Picasso sketch for class.

• 44:02Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:03Laci Mosley?

  This is all classy. And I'm like wondering why he didn't do gold gilded, but there's a lot of gold in India. So maybe he was like, I'mma be different and I'mma give the girls silver plated.

• 44:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe he's trying to mix it up. I, I, so far this all sounds like pretty standard rich guy stuff to me.

• 44:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm, yeah. So a group of largely silent young women clad in white delivered drinks to guests, answered phones and cleaned up ashtrays.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  Okay, now, now it's getting a little troubling.

• 44:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. Why they gotta be so quiet? Why you got them working like Target employees? Why can't they talk?

• 44:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no.

• 44:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, mostly silent. I'm, I'm starting to have questions about the king of good times. Good times for who?

• 44:49Laci Mosley?

  He said good times is when women don't talk.

• 44:53Laci Mosley?

  You know, when bitches be talking, it's not a good time.

• 44:57Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. So in India, um, Vijay became a symbol of both the successes and excesses of Indian business following the country's deregulation in the early 1990s. But eventually, he became the target of the authorities, partly because his public displays of wealth came at the same time that his passion project, King Fisher Airlines, was taking a nosedive.

• 45:26Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I hope the pun isn't intended, cuz I hope King Fisher wasn't really diving, like going down.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, hopefully that was just metaphorical.

• 45:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 45:37Speaker 04

  But.

• 45:38Laci Mosley?

  We're about to see.

• 45:40Speaker 04

  This guy has too many ideas. I'm, I'm now willing to say, he's trying to do too much.

• 45:47Laci Mosley?

  I mean, he's a very rich man. He's gotta have lots of, he's staying up till five in the morning, having business meetings. Like, I feel like you gotta have too many ideas at that point.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:57Laci Mosley?

  Otherwise, why are we up at five?

• 45:58Speaker 04

  And that, I, cocaine might have something to do with how many ideas he has as well. There's alleged cocaine. We haven't, no one mentioned it. We know he winks. We don't know if he snorts.

• 46:09Laci Mosley?

  We don't. We don't. We do not know that. So King Fisher Airlines, when it was launched in 2005, King Fisher Airlines was initially modeled on the low-cost American carrier JetBlue, with all economy seats on the plane, that included seat-back TVs, which was new for domestic flights in India. So I, I think that's given quality. We're traveling, it's economy, but we also get to watch a little TV, because sometimes when you're traveling and there's no TV, it's really torturous some. Like, have you ever flown to Hawaii, like, from LA?

• 46:43Speaker 04

  I have not, no.

• 46:44Laci Mosley?

  That sounds so LA of me to say, but for those of you who have, you know, most of them damn planes do not have no TV or wifi on them, and it's a five-hour flight.

• 46:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:56Laci Mosley?

  I was in the first class, and I was like, babes, it's giving spirit.

• 47:01Speaker 04

  What did you do? Did you read a book?

• 47:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I tried to close my eyes. I stared. The first time I didn't know that was gonna be the case. So I just kinda stared, you know, and closed my eyes and tried to sleep. But it was, it was upsetting because I was like, okay, well, I should've just paid for a coach ticket on this flight. Cause babes, I, I wanted entertainment. I wanted food. At least if I had flown Spirit somewhere, like the entertainment is on the flight, you know? The passengers are boxing with, with the flight attendants.

• 47:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:31Laci Mosley?

  Like, we're getting entertainment.

• 47:33Speaker 04

  You could've saved money and had a show.

• 47:35Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. A live show. That's theater. Spirit is giving you theater. They were like, you don't need TVs in the back of your seat, okay? We, we got an intermission. We got everything you need, okay?

• 47:46Speaker 04

  Yes. Yes, we will. We, we will. You won't be bored.

• 47:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it's like, y'all saw Wicked? We do that here. It's, it's live action.

• 48:02Laci Mosley?

  I'mma punch somebody and they gonna be like, ah.

• 48:10Laci Mosley?

  Like, don't even worry about it.

• 48:11Speaker 04

  I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to book a Spirit flight now because just the possibility of that happening.

• 48:17Laci Mosley?

  Right? Listen, you gotta book it for the plot, just for the bit, at least once. But to get there early, cause they pull off like the Greyhound, cause that happened to me once. And they just be leaving. Like, they just be leaving. They, they don't care about what time the flight was supposed to be.

• 48:33Speaker 04

  The show must go on, you know?

• 48:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, exactly. They say five minutes to curtain.

• 48:37Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 48:38Laci Mosley?

  In the airport. They don't, they're not gonna tell you that. And so you gotta get on there. So the airline became known, this is, um, back to King Fisher. Uh, the airline became known for its saucy flight attendants, luxury service, and the slogan, fly.

• 48:55Laci Mosley?

  Guess the last three words of this.

• 48:58Speaker 04

  Three words. Okay, fly.

• 49:02Laci Mosley?

  Based on what, everything we know about Vijay.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  Oh, fly for good times.

• 49:08Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes, you're almost there. That was almost perfect, Zach. Fly the good times.

• 49:16Laci Mosley?

  You were right there.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're on the same page.

• 49:19Laci Mosley?

  Were you at those 5 a.m. business meetings?

• 49:21Speaker 04

  No comment.

• 49:24Laci Mosley?

  So Vijay appeared in person on in-flight safety videos to make a welcome speech. So he didn't even let the girls do the welcome speech on board. He was like, I'mma do it. And let's, let's see some of it. I love him. Let's see some of it.

• 49:39Speaker 04

  This guy is hilarious.

• 49:41Laci Mosley?

  Today we started flying. I've tried to create the finest experience for you and bring back the element of style in travel. This Airbus aircraft is equipped with several unique features, which I hope you will enjoy. Food has always been my passion and drinks my business. I invited you to savor our fine red cocktails and choice of gourmet cuisine that I encourage the finest chefs to create. Okay, this looks like some good airplane food.

• 50:09Speaker 04

  It does. And you know they have good drinks.

• 50:12Laci Mosley?

  And I have instructed them to treat you as a guest in my own home. I love the outfit, too. We can stop it right there. Oh, wow. He was like, I, first of all, y'all need to know that this is me. Like, I got the finest of foods and obviously I know everything about drinks, because Kingfisher beer. I got flight attendants who gonna put a blanket on your baby. You don't even gotta put a blanket on your baby.

• 50:35Speaker 04

  You don't have to wear shoes. There was some bare feet in that video.

• 50:38Laci Mosley?

  There was a lot of bare, like, little kid feet. Like, okay, yeah, it's a choice, but...

• 50:45Speaker 04

  That, I mean, that doesn't scream luxury to me.

• 50:50Speaker 04

  Hey, I'm not the king of good times.

• 50:53Laci Mosley?

  I know that when you're on a plane, like if you're at least in first, like you will like take your shoes off. If you lay down your bed, you know, you might take it to and they give you slippers though. They gave you slippers, they give you socks. So I'm like, he he put too much raw toe in there for me. I feel like they should have been in socks.

• 51:10Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 51:11Laci Mosley?

  They got King Fisher socks and King Fisher little slippers. You're right about that.

• 51:15Speaker 04

  That's a branding opportunity that he missed out on. He could have had the King Fisher socks. I'm also only just now after seeing this video realizing that King Fisher is this, this would be like having a Budweiser Airlines. Like.

• 51:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my god. Oh, oh, my goodness.

• 51:33Speaker 04

  You don't want an alcohol brand airline. It's troubling.

• 51:40Laci Mosley?

  Fly in the day. I'm flying that Four Loko Air.

• 51:43Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 51:46Laci Mosley?

  It's a lot of turbulence on Four Loko Air.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  You don't, you don't want that. That's.

• 51:51Laci Mosley?

  Just said Corona Air. Corona Air kind of sound like it could be lit. Four Loko Air sound bad.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, if I had to choose of the alcohols, I would choose Corona. Yeah.

• 52:02Laci Mosley?

  Um, I would choose Grey Goose Air because it's also a goose already, you know, so now we geese with the goose.

• 52:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:10Laci Mosley?

  That that makes sense to me, but you're right. It's like Budweiser Air or like Miller Lite Air.

• 52:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, you don't want to be on.

• 52:18Laci Mosley?

  Live the high life. Oh, that works.

• 52:21Speaker 04

  It it it does. It that actually works better than fly the good times.

• 52:27Laci Mosley?

  It does. Live the high life, live the high life. Okay, I feel like that's what like if we keep going with how. No, no, Jess, just put in Pat's Blue Ribbon Air. No, now I don't want to be with a bunch of rednecks going to January 6th. That's who's flying Pat's Blue Ribbon.

• 52:43Speaker 04

  That's, yeah, they they they only fly one place and only once every four years.

• 52:52Laci Mosley?

  And you know the background music to their safety videos like, and I'm proud to be an American. Where at least I know I'm free. Like, no, no. Zach, this is a devastating observation. I, I ain't getting on no beer air.

• 53:08Speaker 04

  Seeing it and hearing him talk about the drinks made it click for me and I was like, oh yeah, no.

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Oh Zach, that killed me. Oh no, you're so right.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  He didn't even change it. Like, he could have called it like Kingfish Air or something. He could have changed it up a little bit. No.

• 53:28Laci Mosley?

  King's Air.

• 53:29Speaker 04

  Kept it with the full on beer brand name.

• 53:32Laci Mosley?

  Literally. He might as well have put the beer bottle on the side of the plane. He was like, no, it's gonna be advertising. I think he was going for, you know, like Virgin America, like they have Virgin and other things. But Virgin is broad enough that it can be a brand for everything. I don't want Kingfisher chemicals next to my Kingfisher beer on my Kingfisher airplane. Are they gassing up the plane with Kingfisher chemicals?

• 53:57Speaker 04

  See, yeah, these are the questions that are raised when you name your airline the same thing as your, as your other conglomerations.

• 54:03Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna stand by allegedly cocaine 5 a.m. business meetings because somebody was like, and then.

• 54:10Speaker 04

  It would explain a lot.

• 54:11Laci Mosley?

  We keep the brand strong. Hear me out. We name it after Kingfisher beer, okay? People love the beer. They're gonna love the plane. They already know that. They're gonna love the beer. They're gonna love the plane.

• 54:20Speaker 04

  Like beer, people drink when they're in the air.

• 54:22Laci Mosley?

  It makes sense. It all makes sense. Oh yes, it all makes sense. Like, they're all like agreeing and then they're like, hey, yeah, call the lawyers. Like, oh my goodness.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. This may, this may have led to why he can't be back in the country.

• 54:35Laci Mosley?

  So, you know, we, we, we listened to his video and we'll post the video on Instagram so you can see it. Um, in addition to standard safety and evacuation instructions, Kingfisher flight attendants received voice training and elocution lessons. These are my fair ladies of the air. And they were also taught to do their own makeup and hair.

• 55:00Laci Mosley?

  So they had to get in full glam and he was like, we're gonna teach you how and look, all their makeup and hair looks the same almost.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, this checks out from what we know of this man.

• 55:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, oh, right, cuz he had all the ladies in the white who had to be quiet.

• 55:15Speaker 04

  But these ladies had to learn how to elocute, so he's.

• 55:19Laci Mosley?

  They got to talk.

• 55:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's changed his stance on that.

• 55:22Laci Mosley?

  On the plane, they get to talk cuz you know what, it would freak me out if I had a flight attendant who refused to speak. I'd be like, what's, are we going down? What's, what's wrong?

• 55:31Speaker 04

  That would be the most, if there was an airline whose thing was silent flight attendants, that would be the most unsettling way to fly imaginable.

• 55:42Laci Mosley?

  Okay, but what if there's just like risks, just risks you don't know about, but it's a great ticket and a great flight? And you could put your bare toes wherever you want.

• 55:52Speaker 04

  I need to, I need to hear them. I just need to hear them. For me personally.

• 55:58Laci Mosley?

  He's doing the whole safety video himself. Do you need to hear them?

• 56:02Speaker 04

  Yep, I need to hear them. I need to hear them at least say like, you know, hi or something. I just can't, I can't.

• 56:13Laci Mosley?

  So Vijay quickly added a lavish business class to Kingfisher, which we saw in that video. Roomy seats came with champagne glasses filled with cider since India forbids alcohol on domestic flights. The airline was his pet project. He picked the in-flight napkins himself, like that's how involved he was. He was like, I got it from the makeup and the hair to the elocution to the napkin. I'm gonna do it all. Also, India not doing, like allowing alcohol in domestic flights. As much as I know the girls love their drinks in the domestic flights in America, I don't know, we might have to, after post 2020, people be getting crazy.

• 56:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it might be a good idea to do that.

• 56:57Laci Mosley?

  Except for on Spirit. I want them plied with alcohol on Spirit because that's a part of the show.

• 57:01Speaker 04

  That would be, that would be a really, really fun. You'd have to, you'd have to make your choice. Do I, do I drink or do I fly Spirit? And, and yeah, I'm, I'm on board with that. Only on Spirit. Spirit's on Spirit.

• 57:17Laci Mosley?

  Spirits should lobby for that, but have themselves as a loophole. So, wait, what is just saying right here? She said, "A comedian once said they let the bus people into the sky." Yeah, that was Janelle James, who said that Spirit lets, that they're letting bus people in the sky now in general, on all the planes. And that's why everything is crazy. So shout out to Janelle. Um, Kingfisher Airline was already losing money on its luxury services, and things worsened when it expanded internationally, taking advantage of lenient lending practices. So VJ convinced lenders to restructure the airline's debt. By 2012, Kingfisher stopped flying and declared bankruptcy.

• 58:00Laci Mosley?

  So he's, he took it, he took advantage of like leniency when it came to lending practices. And honestly, in the 90s, everything was like deregulated at this time. We saw that in, um, America as well. Like, as much as we want to blame George, but George W. Bush for the 2008 housing crisis, Clinton had a little bit to do with that as well, because he was the one who deregulated like the banks, and then that's when they started getting, you know, putting the houses on the stock market, and everybody was getting like, "You get a home, you get a home, and now you can't pay for your home, and we take your home, we take your home, we take your home." Yeah.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  Prime time for scamming.

• 58:40Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it really was. Wow, what a heyday. You know, you had Bernie Madoff back then, like, oh, the girls were, oh.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  Legends.

• 58:47Laci Mosley?

  What a time.

• 58:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:49Laci Mosley?

  What a time to be a scam. So, Kingfisher owed at least 1.4 billion in loans.

• 58:55Speaker 04

  Uh-oh.

• 58:56Laci Mosley?

  But, yeah, uh-uh, but much of it was to state-controlled banks, as well as back pay to former employees who had been working without getting paid for months. I'm sorry, you're not getting me into the sky without a check. That's, that's a mandatory part of skywork.

• 59:15Speaker 04

  Yeah. Especially if I have to do my hair and makeup and, and, you know, the rain in Spain goes mainly on the plane. Yeah, I'm, I'm getting paid for that.

• 59:27Laci Mosley?

  Nah, you playing. So, and also I don't wanna get on no plane where people not getting paid. I don't, that's not a plane I wanna be on.

• 59:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, a hundred percent.

• 59:36Laci Mosley?

  That's why I was like in full support of the pilot strikes and the, and you know, the stewardess stri- or not stewardess, flight attendant strikes because I'm like, I don't wanna be on a plane with people who are not getting paid.

• 59:46Speaker 04

  No, you want them to be happy to be there.

• 59:49Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's just like, I don't wanna go to a hospital and everybody like, I am overworked and underpaid. I'm like, you, you cut my heart today, sir.

• 59:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, this isn't a cava, you know? I want, I want you to, to be happy to be here.

• 1:00:06Laci Mosley?

  So because VJ and his United Brewery's holdings backed some of the loans, creditors began pressing them for repayment. So the runaway baron, VJ fled India for the UK in 2016 amidst mounting debts exceeding one billion owed to seventeen Indian banks and charges of fraud. His personal White House in the sky was still under construction at the time. A deeply in debt, big time businessman running from his crimes who wants to live in the White House in 2016?

• 1:00:38Speaker 04

  Interesting timing, interesting.

• 1:00:40Laci Mosley?

  I've never heard of that before. A man who wants to gild things in precious metals?

• 1:00:47Speaker 04

  Who has a lot of ideas.

• 1:00:49Laci Mosley?

  A lot of ideas. Who is on stimulants?

• 1:00:56Laci Mosley?

  Never, that's a new one.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  Yeah. Huh.

• 1:00:59Laci Mosley?

  Huh, curious. India canceled his passport after he fled the country and a court in Mumbai issued a warrant for his arrest. India sent Britain on an official request for VJ's extradition in 2017, but he's still there to this day.

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:01:19Laci Mosley?

  Claiming both that he has been unfairly targeted as a crooked businessman and that he has actually repaid the debt that he owes. Unfairly targeted as a businessman.

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  I don't know if you can really claim both. Can be like, they made it up and also I already paid him back.

• 1:01:41Laci Mosley?

  They lying and also I paid them and they lying. But I'm just saying, I don't know, gilded, gilded homes, stimulants, really wants to live in the White House. Um, targeted, innocent.

• 1:01:58Speaker 04

  Debt's mounting.

• 1:02:00Laci Mosley?

  Debt's mounting, avoiding prosecution. It's giving VJ read the art of the deal.

• 1:02:11Speaker 04

  I bet he did.

• 1:02:12Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's giving VJ was tuned in to Fox and was like writing everything down and taking notes.

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  I will say about VJ.

• 1:02:19Laci Mosley?

  Always got a Twitter.

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  It seems like he, he really did just want to make a quality airline.

• 1:02:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he was picking out napkins. I think he actually really wanted this to work.

• 1:02:31Speaker 04

  I don't think he went in thinking, I'm gonna get all this money and flee the country. I think he thought, I'm gonna make the best damn drunk ass airline you've ever seen. And then he got out ahead of himself.

• 1:02:44Laci Mosley?

  Everyone's gonna fly beer. Oh, I, I believe, I believe you on that. I, I think our man who, I'm not gonna say our man, he's not my man, but the guy who runs our country, I don't think he ever intended to.

• 1:02:59Speaker 04

  Different situation.

• 1:02:59Laci Mosley?

  Do anything well. He was never picking out a napkin.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:03:02Laci Mosley?

  You know?

• 1:03:03Speaker 04

  VJ was boots on the ground. VJ was filming videos.

• 1:03:06Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. And so in his Twitter profile, he calls himself a targeted victim of the Indian government. He said, I'm a victim.

• 1:03:16Speaker 04

  That's his new nickname. He went from the king of good times to the targeted victim of the Indian government. Not, it doesn't have the same ring to it, VJ.

• 1:03:26Laci Mosley?

  Mm-mm, VJ, it's not hitting like the king of good times. And like, I need to see some of these tweets. What he be tweeting about? Can we zoom in here, Jess? I'm trying to see too. Okay, so he said, Idmum Barack, my friends. Yes, okay. Okay, I like that. Reaching out to the Muslim community. He's like, oh, congrats. He's like talking about soccer. Oh, cricket, my bad, my bad. Oh, he's retweeting stuff about himself.

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:03:54Laci Mosley?

  He retweeted his own tweet that went into the Indian Herald and he was like, "Beyond the headlines, VJ criticism still justified?" Question mark. That was on March 23rd. So he's trying to rehabilitate that image. He was like, "Is it still justified? Because it's been a long time. So y'all should have forgot."

• 1:04:10Speaker 04

  Can I come back?

• 1:04:12Laci Mosley?

  He's like, "It's been nine years. Can I come back?"

• 1:04:17Laci Mosley?

  "Can we just consider me going to jail, me being in the UK, and then I come back?"

• 1:04:21Speaker 04

  He should just arrange a house arrest at his White House. Make a deal. Make a deal and go stay in the White House.

• 1:04:29Laci Mosley?

  He would go up there kicking and screaming. I know that man don't want to be in that house. Nobody wants to be in that house. Oh, my gosh. He's like, "Happy..." Okay, he's wishing everybody all the holidays. "Happy Christmas." "I love a happy Christmas and best wishes for the new year." "Oh, government and my many critics say that I have CBI criminal cases to answer." "What criminal cases filed by CBI?" Question mark, with a weird space. "Never borrowed a single rupee. Never stole." "But as guarantor of the KFK debt, I am accused by CBI,

• 1:05:10Laci Mosley?

  "together with many others, including IDBI, bank official." Okay, see, this is too many people accusing you in this, in this one. Like, I see you paying for Twitter, VJ.

• 1:05:21Speaker 04

  He had, he had to get the long tweets to get off all his...

• 1:05:25Laci Mosley?

  To get all of his accusers in one tweet. And everybody got acronyms. Like, that's too many acronyms coming for you.

• 1:05:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, you never want to see that many acronyms uniting against you.

• 1:05:37Laci Mosley?

  Against you.

• 1:05:40Laci Mosley?

  No, you don't. You barely want one. You definitely don't want this many to where you gotta buy extra characters on Twitter to be like, "Look, I can't fit all my acronyms in here. Let me just pay Elon."

• 1:05:52Speaker 04

  And I thought, I thought you already told us you already paid it back, VJ. And now you're saying you never borrowed a single rupee. So, you know, you gotta stick to one.

• 1:06:04Laci Mosley?

  I think, I think VJ is separating himself from Kingsfisher.

• 1:06:07Speaker 04

  I see. He's saying that's, hey.

• 1:06:09Laci Mosley?

  He's like, "I never borrowed a single rupee." Now beer in the sky?

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  You want to arrest the airline, not me.

• 1:06:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, get them. Get all them women in the matching hair and makeup and the red outfits. Cause they did it.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:06:24Laci Mosley?

  See, this is why I don't let women talk, okay?

• 1:06:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:28Laci Mosley?

  Cause we were doing just fine until the women started talking. I gave them elocution lessons and all of a sudden I'm being prosecuted. You see how we went from elocution to prosecution? That's why I don't let women talk.

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

  That's, that's tough for VJ.

• 1:06:42Laci Mosley?

  So fugitive economic offender in 2019, a special court in Mumbai declared the runaway beer baron, the first fugitive like economic offender, because he was taking the economy down. That's big. To be a fugitive economic offender? We need to get that on, we need to get on board with that in the US, because we got some fugitive, they're not running yet, but, but they, we got some economic offenders.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, we, we kind of just let them hang out.

• 1:07:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we let them hang out too much.

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  And then sometimes they go live in the White House.

• 1:07:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they go back to live in the White House again, and then they bring more fugitive economic offenders with them.

• 1:07:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, we should, we should definitely be, uh, go in the, what were some of those acronyms? We need to get them over here.

• 1:07:30Laci Mosley?

  We need more acronyms over here to fight, okay? We don't have enough. And they're trying to dismantle all our acronyms as it is. So we...

• 1:07:39Speaker 04

  That's right. We need the CBI, the IDBI.

• 1:07:42Laci Mosley?

  That's why they trying to get rid of the USAID and the IR and the S, because they're trying to get rid of all the acronyms that stand against them. The E and the P and the A. We already got rid of the W and the H and the O. Oh my goodness.

• 1:07:57Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:07:58Laci Mosley?

  We got, we getting rid of the N of the A and the T and the O. All the acronyms that could help us, they getting rid of them.

• 1:08:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:05Laci Mosley?

  I feel like VJ and our orange man know each other, because it feels like y'all's passing notes. Y'all exchanging like...

• 1:08:12Speaker 04

  How else would he know how to build the White, you know, he had to get the plans from somewhere.

• 1:08:17Laci Mosley?

  And who would give him the schematics other than our guy?

• 1:08:21Laci Mosley?

  Yes, you can even know where all the secret passages are. I'll tell you everything. You're gonna know everything. It's gonna be so good, VJ.

• 1:08:29Laci Mosley?

  Good lord.

• 1:08:31Speaker 04

  Was that an audio recording?

• 1:08:33Laci Mosley?

  It was. It was. That was not me. So they have this new Economic Offenders Act, right? Um, Fugitive Economic Offenders Act.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  They had to make a whole act for him.

• 1:08:46Laci Mosley?

  O A, yes, he got a, they were like, we need another acronym. He doesn't have enough on Twitter. We need to add more. And it came into effect July 2018. Meanwhile, his Sky Mansion in India remains unoccupied. Suspended 400 feet above the ground despite its vacancy. Onlookers often marvel at its grandeur, appreciating its lush gardens and captivating infinity pool. I can't imagine there's a pool boy going up there. So it's just the pool got water when it rains.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. And I don't think onlookers are gonna be really able to see that from 400 feet down.

• 1:09:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't know how they onlooking. Cause how y'all onlooking?

• 1:09:28Speaker 04

  But it sounds like he should put it on Airbnb. Then he could knock out some of these debts.

• 1:09:34Laci Mosley?

  For sure, cause every influencer is gonna wanna stay in the Sky Mansion. And then we'll hear about them dying, but.

• 1:09:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is 100% true. It would become an immediate.

• 1:09:45Laci Mosley?

  Immediate.

• 1:09:46Speaker 04

  Destination on TikTok.

• 1:09:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Oh my God, guys, we're swimming in the Sky Mansion today. Ah!

• 1:09:54Speaker 04

  But they have their wingsuits on, so they're fine. It's just scary.

• 1:09:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And I don't think he installed those, Zach. You were supposed to do that.

• 1:10:02Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:10:02Laci Mosley?

  And you were at the business meetings till 5 a.m. And you brought up wingsuits and no one wrote it down and you didn't write it down. And so I think like.

• 1:10:10Speaker 04

  Hey, look, I never borrowed one rupee.

• 1:10:16Speaker 04

  Don't come for me. I'm, I am being falsely tagged with this.

• 1:10:23Laci Mosley?

  It's giving you didn't borrow one rupee, you borrowed a billion rupees. I, the way you worded that was strange.

• 1:10:29Speaker 04

  No comment.

• 1:10:31Laci Mosley?

  You said, I never borrowed one rupee. Like, but if, that could be open to interpretation to you, you borrowed two or more rupees.

• 1:10:38Speaker 04

  I, I'm not saying anything about more than one rupee, but I didn't borrow one rupee.

• 1:10:45Speaker 04

  You will find no transactions where I borrowed one rupee. That is my promise.

• 1:10:52Laci Mosley?

  I never did that. As my mama, I never borrowed one rupee. So Vijay's vacant White House in the clouds is not actually the most lavish home in India, which is probably the saddest part of the whole story to him. That title belongs to a 27-story house built for one family 600 miles to the north of Mumbai.

• 1:11:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:15Laci Mosley?

  27 stories.

• 1:11:17Speaker 04

  That is sad for him.

• 1:11:18Laci Mosley?

  How, it better be our whole, like, first cousin, second cousin's twice removed, thrice removed. You know, like, we gotta have the whole, whole family in this place. Cause if it's just five of us, then I'm like, they're like, dinner! I'm like, what?

• 1:11:35Speaker 04

  And now-

• 1:11:35Laci Mosley?

  I'm on for 22!

• 1:11:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, you'd have to get some sort of PA system involved if it's only five of you.

• 1:11:44Laci Mosley?

  Kind of wait till everybody gets on their elevators to converge in one place. This place is huge.

• 1:11:48Speaker 04

  And it looks precarious.

• 1:11:49Laci Mosley?

  It doesn't look like a house. It looks precarious as well. It's kind of leaning a little bit.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Experimental.

• 1:11:56Laci Mosley?

  Just said walkie-talkies, like, we're having dinner, what's your 20, over? Um, the building looks like it's leaning a little bit to me.

• 1:12:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't, I don't like it.

• 1:12:06Laci Mosley?

  Also, I don't like the shape. Like, this is not a house. Y'all build a corporate space. Like, y'all can't call that a house, just because y'all live in it.

• 1:12:14Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 1:12:15Laci Mosley?

  They was like, it's my house and I live here. I'm like, this is a Sears Tower. Like, what do you mean?

• 1:12:21Speaker 04

  I agree. That's not a house. That's a structure.

• 1:12:25Laci Mosley?

  That's a structure.

• 1:12:26Speaker 04

  That's a building.

• 1:12:28Laci Mosley?

  So, Antilia is the home of billionaire businessman Mukesh Ambani. So, he's the richest person in Asia and his whole family. Ambani is how you should say that. Mukesh Ambani. And I did not need a request, a, a, a correction. I want to put that in here. I, I remembered how to say it. So, at 1 billion to build with helipads, 600 staff, and a 50-seat cinema, it is the most expensive residence in the world. It's only a two-hour flight from Vijay's house in Bangalore. But you can't get there on Kingfisher Airlines because-

• 1:13:12Laci Mosley?

  They no longer exist.

• 1:13:13Speaker 04

  Oh, that's gotta eat Vijay up inside. He would have flown direct to there.

• 1:13:18Laci Mosley?

  Okay, when we get closer to it, it's starting to look more homey.

• 1:13:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, it looks pretty nice.

• 1:13:24Laci Mosley?

  Now, like, you know, like, the, the structure underneath, it's got this kind of warm brown, we're seeing marble, we're seeing gold. Cause from afar, it just looked like a gray skyscraper and I was like.

• 1:13:34Speaker 04

  Like Avengers Tower.

• 1:13:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:37Speaker 04

  But up close, yeah, it's, I, I like that.

• 1:13:39Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, uh, Mr. Ambani, I'm trying to come over to the functions. I know y'all be having functions over there. Like, I wanna come.

• 1:13:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, hey, I've said for a long time that you are the king of good times.

• 1:13:52Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. And not queen, I wanna be the king of good times. No one above me, okay?

• 1:13:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:58Laci Mosley?

  As a sorcerer of good times.

• 1:14:00Speaker 04

  So where's the invite, Mr. Ambani?

• 1:14:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the goddess of good times.

• 1:14:04Speaker 04

  That's right. The goddess of good times is ready, is, is ready to come over, so.

• 1:14:09Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I'm ready for a 5 a.m. business meeting. I'll skip the cocaine, but I will put in my ideas. Oh, my goodness, wow. How do you feel about this guy, Vijay? Is he, is he a huge villain to us? I mean, he did crash an economy. Um, we do have to think about that.

• 1:14:26Speaker 04

  Not great.

• 1:14:29Laci Mosley?

  It's not great when you crash an economy.

• 1:14:31Speaker 04

  That's, you never wanna do that, but.

• 1:14:34Laci Mosley?

  That's what I always say is don't crash an economy, you know?

• 1:14:37Speaker 04

  That's my only goal. That's my only bucket list item is don't crash an economy.

• 1:14:42Laci Mosley?

  He also kind of scammed us with this photo, cause he don't look like this photo in no other picture.

• 1:14:45Speaker 04

  That's true. He, he, in that picture, he looks very confident, a little mysterious. In the video, he's, he did not, he didn't come across this way.

• 1:14:55Laci Mosley?

  He's wearing like an oversized suit.

• 1:14:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, he looks very uncomfortable.

• 1:14:59Laci Mosley?

  Doesn't hang well. Oh, oversized suits that don't hang well.

• 1:15:03Speaker 04

  Lean forward a little bit.

• 1:15:05Laci Mosley?

  He's leaning forward a little bit. Hmm. Where have I seen that before?

• 1:15:08Speaker 04

  Interesting. You know, I do still, I do still think, it, to me, it doesn't sound like it was a scam from the start. It sounds like he was a businessman who started straying from the family business of alcohol and chemicals. And he didn't really know what to do with himself. So, you know, I, I don't think total villain, but I, I think, um, I, I think you fucked up, my guy.

• 1:15:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and also like doing shady lending situations when you know your business is like belly up. You could have just filed for bankruptcy then, but I think he didn't want to file for failure. I don't think he, he's not gonna do that until he ran it up enough. But also like, Vijay, I don't agree with you not paying people who are employed in the sky.

• 1:16:01Speaker 04

  I forgot about that. I did forget about that.

• 1:16:04Laci Mosley?

  If I work at thirty-five thousand feet, baby, that check better clear every time. Clear.

• 1:16:14Laci Mosley?

  Okay, or we not clear for takeoff, we not clear for landing. If my check don't clear first.

• 1:16:19Speaker 04

  You better rub those paddles together because that check has got to clear.

• 1:16:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I've been watching the pit.

• 1:16:28Speaker 04

  I would have guessed that.

• 1:16:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness. Thank you so much, Zach, for coming on the show. You are such a delight. You killed me. Oh my goodness.

• 1:16:38Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me on. I was an early, I've been in the pews. I've been, I've been, I haven't been, you know, much like Vijay's Women in White. I've been mostly silent. But I have been in the pews of the congregation, but it's.

• 1:16:53Laci Mosley?

  I'm so sorry. We told you to be, wear white and be mostly silent. That was my mistake.

• 1:16:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's nice to be up on the pulpit for a little bit.

• 1:17:01Laci Mosley?

  And that's where you belong. You was really preaching today and I appreciate that. Everyone will. And we always ask, where would you like to be found? Anything you'd like people to watch? We know you booked Busy, all the shows, all the things, your social media, all of those good things.

• 1:17:15Speaker 04

  Check out Severance, season two. That's, that's where I would love to be found.

• 1:17:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh my gosh, what a little known show. How will people ever find it?

• 1:17:26Speaker 04

  I mean, you asked where I want to be found. The other places leave me alone.

• 1:17:29Laci Mosley?

  I'm not critiquing it. That was a compliment. Oh my God, Zach.

• 1:17:36Laci Mosley?

  He's like, y'all check me out on one of the biggest shows on one of the biggest networks. Yes, but they should. They should. Severance is amazing and we know that.

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, ta- take a look.

• 1:17:45Laci Mosley?

  And so are you. So yes, take a look. That's the only place you want to be found.

• 1:17:49Speaker 04

  Uh, right now, yeah.

• 1:17:51Laci Mosley?

  He said, only find me on Severance. Okay, well, um, y'all find me at D I V A L A C I D, Velaci on all platforms. You can see all of these great photos of VJ, his mansions, his beautiful, uh, beer planes, uh, at Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram. You can chat with me on Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter and you can buy my books, Scam Goddess, anywhere that books are sold. It's half memoir, half me telling you my favorite scam stories and lots of great advice, um, that I don't take all the time. And, um, you can watch Scam Goddess the television show streaming now, all episodes on Hulu. You can also watch Going Dutch from Fox with Dennis Leary, where I play a character named Conway. Hmm, curious. Hmm, how'd that

• 1:18:32Laci Mosley?

  happen? Uh, also streaming on Hulu. Um, congregation, I want y'all to get out there and be the king, queen, non-biary deity of good times.

• 1:18:51Speaker 04

  Amen.

• 1:18:53Laci Mosley?

  Amen. Hey, Scam.

• 1:19:00Laci Mosley?

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