Christina Aguilera: Getting Dirty & Talking Sex (FBF)

Christina Aguilera joins Call Her Daddy for her first ever podcast interview. We all know her from her countless hit songs and music videos, but Christina shares what was actually going on in her life behind the scenes as she gained international fame. She speaks about growing up in an abusive household and becoming the caretaker of her family at a young age. Christina opens up and discusses insecurities, comparison and feelings of not being good enough. Let’s get dirty and talk about sex because Xtina isn’t here to hold back. Christina reveals her best skill in the bedroom, favorite sex position, tells a wild story of nearly getting caught on a plane and more. This episode discusses adult subject matter, including descriptions of domestic violence, and is intended for adult consumption only. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence in any form, help is available. The National Domestic Violence Hotline provides free, confidential support 24/7. Call 1-800-799-SAFE, or visit TheHotline.org.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

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• 3:11Speaker 03

  What is up Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

• 3:20Alex Cooper?

  Christina Aguilera, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 3:23Alex Cooper?

  I'm staring at your nails.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  Oh, yes.

• 3:26Alex Cooper?

  What's happening?

• 3:27Speaker 03

  They're so fun. You know, they're, um, you know, it's open to interpretation.

• 3:33Alex Cooper?

  Is that a vagina?

• 3:34Speaker 03

  It could be a vagina, it could be lips, but two in the same, both pleasure points, you know?

• 3:40Alex Cooper?

  Holy shit.

• 3:41Speaker 03

  And then on the, um, and then there's an actual mouth on the, um, you know, and tongue on the, on the thumb.

• 3:47Alex Cooper?

  I mean, this could be more appropriate for a Call Her Daddy episode. Casual Christina Aguilera is like, it could be lips, it could be my pussy lips. God bless you all. Up for interpretation.

• 3:57Speaker 03

  It's amazing. I love it.

• 3:58Alex Cooper?

  I need to gas you up for a second, okay? Because just in case anyone fucking forgot, you are a seven time Grammy award winning singer songwriter. You have sold more than 75 million records worldwide. No big fucking deal. You're an international pop icon, voice of a generation, fiance, mother, chief brand advisor and co-founder of Playground. And this is your first ever podcast and you chose Call Her Daddy and I am so fucking honored.

• 4:29Speaker 03

  It is.

• 4:30Alex Cooper?

  I'm so honored. Dude, I can't believe when I heard you'd never done a podcast, I was like, sit down, baby girl. Let's go.

• 4:37Speaker 03

  I said yes to you because I've seen you pop up on social media, which didn't exist when I was coming up in this business. And, you know, I've been doing this since I was like six or seven, basically. So, um, but you feel safe and I always, I appreciate that, you know, because I've been through the gamut of a lot of interviews and people that, you know, I grew up at a time where it was like appropriate to be inappropriate and ask, you know, crazy things. But I always feel it's never like the most intelligent way to go because when you make someone feel safe, they want to open up more. And you always do. And you're so pretty, by the way.

• 5:10Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God. Right back at you. No, I really appreciate that because I agree. I think that's what I want to talk to you a little bit about today. It's just like, your journey has been so public and you've been in front of people for so many years that it's like, I almost feel like people feel like they deserve a piece of you, like you're a piece of the public. And I think it's important to sit down and like humanize people in those situations because it's like, you're a human being, you have feelings, you've gone through shit.

• 5:38Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:38Alex Cooper?

  You're also like the queen of reinvention. You have had so many fucking eras. It's like iconic, iconic, iconic. Aside from like the present moment, what is your most favorite era of your own?

• 5:52Speaker 03

  I mean, it's gotta be probably stripped and dirty and beautiful and fighter, can't hold us down, you know? The, it was the time when I was turning, you know, I was 20, 21. I'd already gotten my foot in the door and my first album was successful, but it was still very like played, played by the rules and, you know, very given a, you know, set by, you know, label, very, very label driven. And, um, and so after that, I, you know, was like, you know, I have to do songs that mean something to me and are valid to who I am and, and being fearless and talking about anything.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  And that includes sexuality. Um, I felt that there was like a lot of shame and fear around the subject. And, and especially, you know, as a woman. We're raised with a lot of stigma. There's a lot of, you know, it's so layered. And it's tough to be a woman. So I wanted to really be, be who I was and make it a safe space for, you know, everyone to feel good and make it a conversation.

• 6:57Alex Cooper?

  That era of yours for women in general, but it's also so funny. We can look back on it, but I know there was pushback during that era, which we'll talk about because it's so funny. Like now it's like, oh, go off Christina, but it's also like crazy to then read the tabloids back then.

• 7:12Speaker 03

  Oh, a hundred percent.

• 7:14Alex Cooper?

  Well, first, how does it feel like the amount of people that still recreate your outfits? Whether it was red carpet, music videos, like it's insane. Every fucking Halloween. It's like Christina everywhere. How does that feel that that's still so powerful in people's minds?

• 7:27Speaker 03

  It's incredible. I love it so much just because, you know, it now it's celebrated and it feels good. And even the people that, you know, got it then, but there was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of, you know, um, double standards with it. And there was a lot of, you know, because I went on tour with, you know, Justin, we did the strip justified tour. And there were things where I was just like, why is it okay for him and not okay for me? You know what I mean? So it was just like, I was constantly pushing back and, and my way. I mean, it was so inappropriate sometimes the things that were, were asked about that era.

• 8:00Alex Cooper?

  It's so crazy to me. And I, again, I agree with you, like that comparison of like a man doing the same thing, which we'll get into because it's like, I'm doing the same thing. And yet I'm being called a slut and like, he's like the boy next door.

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• 12:06Speaker 03

  I was at that time raised by my mom and my grandma, so strong women. And my grandma specifically really was so proud and, you know, really pushed it to be like taken seriously as something to be professional because singing always just came to me as like this, this release. I grew up in a chaotic, you know, upbringing as a very young child and always kind of like feeling like a protector and all that and always felt isolated sort of in my position, in my situation. And so singing, it was a sound of music that first inspired me to sing. And from then I just, you

• 12:49Speaker 03

  know, it was just a release and a form of expression for me before I even understood what that meant. And then whenever my parents got divorced, moved in with my grandma, my grandma was like, you know, this could, this could be something. And

• 13:00Alex Cooper?

  It's so crazy that you're like, I just saw it as like a release where I was using like, and meanwhile, we're like, we see you as one of the most truly talented singers of period, point blank, like hit notes that no one can. But you kind of mentioned your childhood. And again, I think something in media is like, we see this version of you that's so put together. And it's like, oh, it's Christina Aguilera. She has money. She has fame. You mentioned that you kind of grew up in an abusive household, but Do you remember like the first moment you realized like this is unsafe or something was wrong?

• 13:38Speaker 03

  Fear, you know, you have to listen to your body and um, you know, fear is is something that uh, you know, you innately feel, you know, uh, so right then and there, you know, something doesn't feel good and it's not right. Um, and then, you know, having so much compassion for my mother and seeing, you know, when you see someone um, being hurt, someone you love. Phew, yeah, that uh, you know, I still, you know, at forty-two, I'm still affected by this. It's it's under the surface. Trauma never leaves you. You just figure out ways to try and heal it and and to me there it's therapeutic to speak about it.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  And I saw my mom, you know, go through so much that I think that instilled a level of purpose for me in the sense of I I always want to try and empower uh, other people and people in situations where they feel voiceless and unheard and I just have such a deep rooted need to try and, you know, use my voice and I would later discover and and understand what that meant to me, but it never leaves you. And and your trigger when you see movies, when I, when I, you know, I just immediately you go to that place. Huh, you know, and I've done a lot of healing and a lot of growth um, and releasing, you know, a lot of anger comes with that. A lot of shame comes with that.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Um, but, you know, it it takes a lot for a woman to leave those situations as well and my heart goes out because some of them don't leave them. And, you know, and that could vary in a lot of ways, you know, sometimes it's financial, sometimes it's fear of authorities not helping and then it getting worse or, you know, sometimes they're

• 15:27Speaker 03

  You know, sometimes it feels like there's no way out, but you, you know, my mom luckily, you know, she really, we would do these drives from, at the time it was the last straw, from Jersey to my grandma's in Pittsburgh and we would just do these nightly, just me, her and my little sister and we would just like do the night drive, but you know, all of that, it stays with you, but it's become a part of what's important to me is my message.

• 15:50Alex Cooper?

  When you say you would do these drives, was it while your mom had?

• 15:54Speaker 03

  I've never talked about that before.

• 15:55Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 15:56Speaker 03

  You're good, girl.

• 15:56Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, fuck.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  Five minutes.

• 15:58Alex Cooper?

  No, but I'm like, holy fuck, like, was that when you were still, your mom hadn't left your dad yet, but you were like, or had they left?

• 16:05Speaker 03

  There was some back and forth, there's some back, there's, you know, there's, there was some back and forth, there's always the tug of like, I'm never gonna do it again, you know, there's, there's sweet talking involved, there's a lot of shame also in like, well, why don't you just leave? It is so much more complicated than that and it's a mental breakdown of self-esteem and you start to believe someone else's narrative and verbal abuse to you and it, it, self-esteem is something that can break down so easily, even to the most powerful woman executive, um, it doesn't matter what you do, this, you know, we can go on stage and have these larger than life personas, but all it takes is for you to believe someone's negative narrative about you, once it's in there and it's working its way in, that's why I'm like

• 16:50Speaker 03

  so adamant with my daughter, I'm just like, first time somebody ever hits you, the first time somebody makes you feel not right about yourself, woo, girl, I'm so protective mama bear.

• 17:02Alex Cooper?

  And as, but as you should be, because like you said, like, you have that trauma in you that like, you're like, I watch a fucking movie and I can feel it. And I love what you said about the concept of when someone says, why don't you just leave? When people say that, it's such an ignorant statement that like pisses me off, I had a loved one that was in an abusive relationship and you're like, it's so much more fucking complex.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:24Alex Cooper?

  But to leave, do you remember the moment that was like, your mom was like, we're out?

• 17:31Speaker 03

  Yes, officially, when the abuse started to really turn on to me, you know, we were living in Japan for like three years. So we were super isolated, which is where I started singing and looking back, that's where I started to kind of, I would like sing out of this window. I have like a thing about like windows and like they just, when you're feeling just, you know, trapped, I don't know, there's something about the representation of a window and just like there's hope on the other side, you know? And so that's where I started, you know, singing these songs from like The Sound of Music and just to myself. And just that image, I'll always remember, it's like a core memory of just like, there's like something on the other side, there's like a bigger world, there's a bigger purpose. I felt it as, at a, as a, at a really young age, but yes, it was like a, a matter of things.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  And like you're in a foreign country where my dad was in the army, so we're on an army base. I mean, in a situation like that too, abuse runs rampant, you know, the walls are paper thin, you know, where we're living and um, and you can hear abuse just happening on the other side of the wall, you can hear, I mean, you know, it's terrifying and it's like all you want to do is help, but a lot of times, even when you call the authorities, you don't get the help that you, you need and then the door shuts and you're with your abuser again. So it's so important to try and research all you can, speak to people that you can trust and really, you know,

• 18:55Speaker 03

  try and get yourself out of these situations because, you know, worst case scenario, you won't, you know, live to tell the story about it.

• 19:03Alex Cooper?

  Was it hard for your mother to, as a single mother, take care of you and your sister? Like then you started making money, were you kind of providing for your family?

• 19:13Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 19:15Alex Cooper?

  Yes sweetheart.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  Yes, uh, still am, but you know what, in that, in this role too, it comes with responsibility. And responsibility that, you know, I know is, is destined for me and I take on and I take it on, you know, well. When you're in those situations, you grow up really fast and you become like an immediate caretaker and protector of the person that's being hurt. And so yeah, this is just like, kind of like my role.

• 19:43Speaker 03

  All my dogs are rescues, like, you know, I'm just that person.

• 19:48Alex Cooper?

  Your mother, your mother.

• 19:52Alex Cooper?

  I think back and I'm like 12 years old, you join the Mickey Mouse Club, Brittany, Justin, and I'm thinking about like how wild that time must have been for your life. What do you remember? Like, learning at 12 about the industry at that time?

• 20:10Speaker 03

  It's a work ethic, you know, it teaches you work ethic. You're given a schedule, you know, where, where you are in a call sheet, you know, like, it's, it's very disciplined and you either built for that or you're not, you know, and it's, it's something that you realize very quickly if, if, um, you know, you're cut out for that kind of lifestyle. It's hectic, it's chaotic, it's go, go, go. It's on the run and that only builds, you know, the more you create. And I have to say, and my mom would always say this too, you know, she wasn't like your typical, like I would be around these kids who were just like really forced to do this, you know, and my heart would break for them. And my mom would be like, what is wrong with her? Like, you know, because you see these mothers and the kid doesn't even want to do it. But it was just, this is what I was born

• 20:55Speaker 03

  to do. So it was something that we really knew and, and, um, I pushed, you know, for the performances to happen again, like, but just in the most, I think, organic way to start, just like, because I loved it.

• 21:06Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  And for the first time, I was around a bunch of other kids who really loved it too. Like, it was just, you know, born performers.

• 21:14Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  And it was really cool to feel that energy because, you know, coming up in school, in the town that I grew up, it wasn't really like, you know, it's a sports town, you know, and that kind of thing was very celebrated, but like arts and creativity and whatnot. You have that in Pittsburgh, but yeah, I just didn't have a lot of kids that truly, um, loved doing that. And those kids were just, how talented everyone was. Ryan Gosling, like, you know, Carrie Russell, there was just so many people that it was just like, wow, what a, what a casting agent, you know, to get everybody together.

• 21:52Alex Cooper?

  I do relate to like feeling a little bit like you're out of place where you grew up and it only exacerbates the feeling of like wanting to get out and wanting to find like minded People.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:02Alex Cooper?

  But it's so interesting also hearing you talk because it's like it feels like you were almost made to have to grow up very quickly in in many ways where like your ambition immediately led you to working at a young age. Your family situation, you had to grow up quickly. Is there anything that you wish that you could have done more as like a child and in your in your younger life that you didn't really get to have a normal childhood?

• 22:31Speaker 03

  It's a good question. Um. In really thinking about it.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Probably no.

• 22:38Alex Cooper?

  Like I have my life.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  No, sometimes I would, you know, because I was was working a lot. Um. But it's I I wanted to go, you know, I wanted to, you know, um. You know. I wanted to, I wanted to work, you know, I've always operated on like fight or flight.

• 22:59Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  In many different ways. And um, the more successful you are, of course, more is gonna come with that. That's very demanding and very scrutinizing.

• 23:07Alex Cooper?

  Do you think though, there is the part of you that was really ambitious?

• 23:11Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:11Alex Cooper?

  And then naturally, like, we are who we are from like our childhood and nature versus nurture. Like, when you say like you were always running, wanting to go. Do you have you connected that at all to also like? Your childhood?

• 23:24Speaker 03

  It could have been. I haven't really dissected that that part, but um. I always dreamt really big, you know, I always dreamt really big and uh, and uh. Yeah, it it could be looking for some sort of maybe escapism. I mean, I think half the people that are in this business where we need, uh, you know, it's it sucks because we're the most sensitive people on the planet, yet we're looking for like, you know, but we have this like, you know, alter ego that we have to turn on to get the work done and to and to, you know, follow a schedule, but also that makes us so vulnerable and in needing some kind of weird validation.

• 24:08Alex Cooper?

  Totally, totally. Your breakout solo, genie in a bottle. I was gonna say top the charts. That's like a fucking understatement. It took over the world. What do you remember about the day that that song was released?

• 24:22Speaker 03

  I was still. In New, I was living, I was on my own pretty early too, trying to get a record deal. Um, and so I was like, you know, house hopping from like odd places from my manager's house at the time to another manager. Like it was very odd and weird and I would, again mama bear like never with my daughter. Like I would be so like protective and overseeing all that, which is a whole other story. But in New York, yeah, was where I started hearing it um, on the radio for the first time. So the album wasn't completely done and out and I was just remember hearing that and I was just like, oh my God.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  And it took me back to like driving around the car in Pittsburgh and only hoping that I would like hear my song one day on the radio and just dreaming about it. Again, big dreamer, Sagittarius. Very like, you know, sky's the limit. I'm gonna fuck do this. So it was the most amazing feeling in the world.

• 25:22Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. And I think again, it's almost like dissecting like what everyone was watching in the world was like Jeannie DeBottle, Christina Aguilera, like this hot, amazing, talented young woman. Then you're saying like, oh, I'm like living with managers. I'm like kind of in sketchy situations where the world probably wouldn't even fucking fathom that Christina Aguilera wasn't like set up and all good, but what were you emotionally going through at that time?

• 25:50Speaker 03

  Oh, man, that's a loaded question. What was I emotionally going through at that time? I mean, looking back, I probably, I didn't have much time to even think about anything. I was given the schedule. I was told what to do. You know, told what to do. Um, my true opinion didn't really matter from everything, you know, like I remember like, you know, being told what to wear, what the image was gonna be and, you know, not feeling super comfortable. That's also the product of a kid being raised in the business too, you know, growing up and like you're constantly being told by adults and mainly men, you know, how and what to be and you're hearing conversations too of what they

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Their ideal, you know, woman should be and look like and so at a young, impressionable age, like I just remember it was just so you take certain things on and then you have to like reprogram to think for yourself and and what makes sense for you. So um it it's a lot, you know, to take on. So your dreams are coming true, but you're not quite getting to be the person that you wanna be and and telling the stories you wanna tell.

• 27:03Alex Cooper?

  It's like so helpful.

• 27:05Speaker 03

  Through all that for nothing.

• 27:08Alex Cooper?

  But straight up, I will be real with you. It's, I really think it's so helpful to hear you talk about this because I remember myself sitting at home with my older sister, watching these videos and to know that like this first era, not to take anything away from it, but like that wasn't fully you. Like that was like a lot of men in a room constructing like, let's have her hair look like this and let's like have her wear this, which I get is part of the industry. But also then my like heart goes out for baby Christina because I'm like, that age for a young woman to already be dealing with like insecurities and figuring yourself out and then to have men be like, we need this, this, this. You were like exposed

• 27:53Alex Cooper?

  to such a different level of criticism and someone being so fixated on your looks. Like, how did that affect your self-worth?

• 28:05Speaker 03

  I mean, it's a lot. I mean, you could only imagine. It's it's difficult enough growing up and trying to figure it out away from the camera, but being, you know, in front of it and, you know, scrutinized um and picked apart and judged and and everybody's got a different opinion. That's the one thing I learned really early on is like, whoa, no matter what I do, like, somebody's gonna be anti it and somebody's not gonna be happy with it. And I was like, and I'd always diaried and journaled and like, I always had this, thank God, this core sense of myself and what I wanted, my purposes and my messages to do and to and to help. And that's what I feel like kept me riding that core line of like bringing me back to.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Real purpose and and and to be authentic with what I did.

• 28:55Alex Cooper?

  Then you decided, fuck this. I'm going to add my twist and add actually Christina into the mix of who I am and what I want to be. And you came out with the Dirty Music video, which is so fucking iconic. I was watching it this morning, just being like, I every time, every time I just get excited to watch it. But at the time, the press pinned you as this bad girl. They were slut shaming you. There were literally celebrities coming out being like, god damn, like she like, looks like a whore. She looks like a slut, which is so fucking crazy because as I was watching it, rewatching it this morning, I was like,

• 29:35Alex Cooper?

  it's such a major celebration of the female body and sexuality. How do you remember breaking away from what everyone wanted you to do? And making this happen slash then how did those comments affect you once you released it?

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, so many things popping through my mind. Yeah.

• 29:54Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, let's go.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, like 10 answers in there that I can think of, but yes, um, I was actually surprised because like I was so in my zone of just like, expressing and creating this album, um, and and just truly trying to make every facet of it, speak of myself as as a woman and I didn't and I didn't want to fit a box of like, I'm sweet and vulnerable and demure and I'm gonna, you know, do the programmed, you know, pop format. But I'm not any particular one thing or one brand. And that's what I did not like about the business is the fact that they immediately try to box you and label it. So that it's easier for them to understand.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  But it was hard, you know, being a kid and being like, oh, my God, I'm just trying to live my life. I'm 21, I'm having fun. Like, these were my college years. You know, this was my moment, except everybody could see it. But I was having, you know, I'm an artist at the end of the day, I, you know, how this is how I express myself, you know, um, and I wasn't just coming with. Dirty, you know, then we came with beautiful and then we came with fighter, which was a representation kind of of, you know, my past and and going against the grain of people that I felt really wronged me because that's another thing you, you know, people steal from you, people that are so close to you. I remember being so devastated about people that I that really disappointed me to my core that I was like, oh, wow, like,

• 31:22Speaker 03

  I feel really alone, you know, like it was, it really like, and then you want to retreat and then you want to get defense mechanisms up and then you don't trust anyone like as if I didn't already have trust issues, you know, from my childhood. I was about to say. Layers on layers on layers, but but in any case, you know, is part of my journey. It's it's what I was meant to go through and honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way because had I knock on through all these things, I wouldn't sing the way I do. I wouldn't create the way I do. I wouldn't write the way I do. I was like a sponge. I just like took it all in and when I was ready to just be like no more, I don't care. And I remember being quoted saying, you know, I don't care this next record if I sell one record or one million like

• 32:07Speaker 03

  all the the cool like accolades and stuff that's amazing. I'm grateful. But at the end of the day, I have to like sit with myself and feel like I'm contributing a bigger thing to the world than just a pop song and a chart and an award like it's deeper than that to me and that's what I always and that's what I set out to do with stripped and I was able to do it, thank God. You know, after getting my foot in the door, but I was gonna then play by my own rules and represent the kind of woman that I wanted to be.

• 32:51Alex Cooper?

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• 35:28Alex Cooper?

  I'm just like sitting here a little, not in shock, but I will say like, you truly never know what you're gonna get when someone walks in a door and I'm picturing Christina Aguilera, like grew up obsessing over you, had posters, like you're so fucking normal. I don't know where I would be if like at this age I started working and at this age I'm living with creepy managers and then this age people are stealing from you and like to see like you sitting here and having such like a grasp on what happened to you, but every statement you constantly are like, but I'm grateful and like I have perspective and like it's really cool to see how you've kind of taken

• 36:10Alex Cooper?

  ownership of what you can. Don't give any of those bastards like any fucking out though. I look back at articles and I feel like there were so many comments on your, you're like, oh, the articles. You're like, sweetie, which ones? Take a sip. Like, is there alcohol here? No. Were you happy being known as the tiny girl with the big voice? Like, how did you feel about your body as a young woman that the world is commenting on your body?

• 36:37Speaker 03

  It was crazy growing up and then yeah, hearing people talk about, I mean, everything, everything. It's, it's, you know, having opinions on everything, your looks, your, your voice, your, your style, your, it's everything.

• 36:50Alex Cooper?

  Back then you also exuded this like confidence sexually, like on stage and, and in your, your music. And for the world, we were all like, oh my God, like I want to be like her. Like she's so sexy and beautiful and smart and talented. How did you feel about your sexuality back then?

• 37:06Speaker 03

  I wanted to always own it, you know, it was important to me. I didn't, I think also, you know, the older I got and the more and by that time, you know, for most people that would maybe be in your like 30s to have that mindset of like, I'm gonna do things my way. And you know, I mean, I'd grown up with so many opinions that I was just like, I'm not gonna play by your rules. I'm not gonna see myself as you see me. Um, I'm gonna own my sexuality for myself. Sexuality is a beautiful thing. And we need to take care of it as women. We need to really make sure that we prioritize it and ourselves and what it means to us because every woman is different.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  And I never wanted to also insert the fact that I was so comfortable with my sexuality and like, yeah, like we're gonna dance it, we're gonna do, you know what I mean? Like all this stuff. I never wanted to also, you know, even though it did anyway, make some women like, you know, uh, uncomfortable with what I was doing, but I never wanted to make it like, you know, you have to be this way too. Like everyone has their different comfort zone with it and, and just because I wanna express myself this way, like let, again, let people live.

• 38:14Alex Cooper?

  Totally.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  Like, let everybody own it the way and they need to own it. Let's talk about it, you know, and, and back then, you know, that's what's cool about what you do, what you do, uh, is, is we're able to have these open conversations now. Now I see women more than ever talking to each other and it's like, okay, and, and so accessible with our phones and like, social media, that's the positive of it and, and, and everything is, is that we get to like have more accessibility to each other.

• 38:41Alex Cooper?

  Totally.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  And be like, this is happening to you too?

• 38:43Alex Cooper?

  Right, like, are we on the same page, girl? Like, totally.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I didn't have that back then. So yes, it was, it was very hard and very terrifying and I took so much personal. I really did. And then you have people in this situation. This is why you're my first podcast, cause you have, you know, you're so used to creating these like certain walls and defense mechanisms because you're just like, people are baiting you. And then you're like, wait, I didn't say that and I didn't say it like that. And you know how it is.

• 39:08Alex Cooper?

  No, dude, you're so right because I feel like your era of coming up, it was like,

• 39:14Speaker 03

  Extra hard, yeah.

• 39:15Alex Cooper?

  Paparazzi, tabloids. I'm like, holy shit, like, people so fixated on every single move. What was dating like for you? Wow, um, what was your dating life? Like as you were like coming up in your career, like late teens?

• 39:33Speaker 03

  I didn't really have time for that, but I did, um,

• 39:41Speaker 03

  I always went for things that I would feel safe about, like, you know, we'd have our, you know, you'd travel and you'd meet certain people, but I was, it's so funny that I gave this persona, because I probably was like the last person to lose my virginity and like, you know, I just, I don't know, it was something that was for me, you know what I mean? And that's, I guess, why my messages

• 40:06Speaker 03

  went the way they did too, is because I owned it first. Maybe, um, but it doesn't matter how it goes down, as long as you find your way and your path with being comfortable with yourself. But, um, we always get like off topic.

• 40:20Alex Cooper?

  When did you lose your virginity?

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Bring me back, girl.

• 40:22Alex Cooper?

  Tell us.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  It was later than you would think.

• 40:24Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  You know, given the girl that was doing dirty and all this, you know? But yeah, it's just, it's more of a funny thing, looking back, where it's just like, people thought probably like,

• 40:33Alex Cooper?

  You were popping off.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  But yeah, it was, I had, you know, I had certain dancers that were like close quarter, because you have to like, you know, you're traveling a lot and you're there's, you're, you have accessibility to only so many things. So, you know, it is what it is. And then, you know, like, I mean, yeah, I had a lot of things that I'm just like, yeah, maybe I should have realized he wasn't looking at me, he wasn't interested in me, you know, like, he was looking at him.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  There's a lot of things, you know, that I'm just like, oh, sad, like, I feel bad for like my younger self, like, oh, sad.

• 41:14Alex Cooper?

  I love you, little PR trained, you're like, and maybe a dancer that was more into men and I should have seen. So, okay, so you like, you had an interesting experience. Despite being such an icon, I was looking, I'm like, you don't have too crazy of like a celebrity roster attached to your name. And my question is, Miss Aguilera, was that actually because that was intentional? Or were you just really good at keeping things hidden and a little secret that we didn't know about?

• 41:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, I definitely, I've had my experiences, but I also like,

• 41:49Speaker 03

  Oh, I mean, my life is hectic enough and like this is a very narcissistic industry. And like my anxieties couldn't maybe take somebody that did the exact same thing I did and like ran around and traveled. It's like, I know how this goes. Like, I'm too like, I'm too um, too vulnerable for this. I'm too sensitive to like be so paranoid. So like, you know, this business is very demanding. It's a lot. And um, and, and, and yeah, I just, you know, I, I've definitely like not been into the celebrity thing.

• 42:24Alex Cooper?

  Right. No, that's really refreshing to hear because it's like you, you see some people like trying to you, it's, it's, it's obvious on the internet like, oh, this couple is appearing and it's like to stay relevant. And I can imagine how obnoxious like that word is of like being in the industry for so long. It's like, how does the stress of like managers and people being like, we need to stay relevant. We need to do this. Like, how does that affect you?

• 42:49Speaker 03

  It's just annoying more than anything else. I don't want to be corny and be like, it's, but it really is to me about intentions, you know? And if it, if it doesn't feel right to me, like I just can't do it. I can't, I have a really hard time forcing myself. It wasn't interesting to me. I don't know.

• 43:04Alex Cooper?

  That's so interesting too, because I feel like

• 43:06Speaker 03

  The guys next door.

• 43:07Alex Cooper?

  Interesting. Because you know what is so fascinating is like, did anyone ever try to be like, hey, like, look at these people doing couples, like this will make your career even crazier.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've, you know, I've had, I just, if it's not real to me and authentic, I can't do it. You know, I can't force something as personal as that.

• 43:28Alex Cooper?

  I know you mentioned trust issues. Is there any? Because I don't think a lot of us can fathom the amount of cameras and paparazzi back then. Like, is there any paranoia that has lingered in you?

• 43:41Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, it, it, I went through a bad period at a certain time where even like the clicking of the camera paparazzi like, like just was so like upsetting to me. I'd like have a panic attack. And I, I know I've heard other celebrities actually say this too. And then you have really horrible stories that happen whenever you, again, starting to believe a narrative, you know? And then um,

• 44:07Speaker 03

  Uh yeah, it's a very weird thing. Um, uh, that kind of attention and that that kind of um, that world. So yeah, that that is a part of too. Why it's just like, you know, it's very anxiety riding for me, you know, um.

• 44:22Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk a little bit about relationships and then we're going to talk about sex. With relationships. I'm curious because I am currently in therapy and I I think it's so interesting of like, we're all trying to undo shit that our parents fucked us up with. It's just the fact, I don't care if you have perfect parents, then you're still fucked up. So it's like, are there any patterns in relationships? Previous relationships that you you now kind of recognize? That you had to stop and and try to break moving forward like.

• 44:53Speaker 03

  Oh, like bad patterns? Yeah, um, you know, it's it's still a process sometimes to really. Um, you have to check yourself too. I think there's accountability in, you know, things that even though you're they're not your fault, you're still conditioned and programmed in a way of fear and paranoia and and also sometimes not given a good guideline can really mess you up, you know, because then it's like, is this normal? Or is this just like, or or is this something I need to leave the relationship for? Like, I'm so like, into being like, okay, wait, do I need to be taking this shit right now? Or can I walk the or should I walk the fuck away?

• 45:37Speaker 03

  Like, you know what I mean? Like, what's normal? What's like? So it's a constant. I, you know, I'm I believe in therapy too, the right kind of therapy.

• 45:45Alex Cooper?

  I know that you mentioned you have like a collection of diaries that you've kept for like twenty some years. What's a diary entry that makes you kind of sad for your younger self when you read it?

• 46:00Speaker 03

  I think just, yeah, how how hurt I was because I was so into this being like, uh, one day I'm gonna, I'm gonna make it and I'm gonna, you know, you know, see myself on MTV and like all this stuff like it was just, it was such a dream and coming from such a good place to all of a sudden, you're shook by. All the shit that comes with the success. And yeah, I think it's like, it's sad when I, when I see how, how some like press and articles and some interviews that were just so taken out of context or just mean like how hurt I was by that, truly like

• 46:43Speaker 03

  affected and um, and then yeah, it just makes you internalize negative thoughts about yourself and feelings.

• 46:50Alex Cooper?

  If you can share, what was something specific?

• 46:52Speaker 03

  You know, back then, there was a lot of like, you know, it was a, it was a different business where there was a lot of,

• 47:01Speaker 03

  you know, female comparisons and double standards with women and it's just was a constant like pitting against each other and like, it just felt like just punches in the face and it was just, you know, yeah, it's fucking hard. It was, it was hard to just constantly feel like, you know, you're making music and doing something you love and then, you know, someone spinning something so negative about it and it was just, it was really hard because sometimes who you were pitted against, you actually genuinely, you know, loved and, and like respected. So it was just like, you know, but again, then you have people like baiting you and, and, and, and

• 47:44Speaker 03

  do you know what she said about you? Well, you know what I mean? And then you're like, wait, what? You know, so it, it's just like, and you're too much of a kid to understand like what's happening. I hated that shit, you know, like that's why also like now I'm just so excited to see, you know, more, you know, exposed women, supporting women because now you're cutting through the middle man a lot more, which is really, really nice.

• 48:09Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, I think it, it clearly worked for the tabloids to have characters and ideas of if we pit this person against this person, this is gonna be, this is gonna sell through because these are two huge names or three huge names or this cut like, it's so insane and you're, but then it's like, I'm an individual. Why can't I just be? Christina Aguilera, this incredible singer and leave it at that and then let everyone also have their own careers. Cause there's so many other people thriving and that must have been very.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  I remember there was, yeah, a headline that was like comparing me with another artist and was like, it's like Roe versus Wade, pick a side, you know, and I was like, oh my God, you're so dramatic like. Too young to even really understand what that meant. So I was like.

• 48:58Speaker 03

  Understand the level of like how young I was being thrust into this world. That was like, wait, what are you saying? What are you saying?

• 49:05Alex Cooper?

  Dude, the pettiness to compare people to Roe v Wade. Like, let's tone it down a notch TMZ or whoever the fuck, you know what I mean?

• 49:17Speaker 03

  Wasn't even like, um, yeah, it was too much. It was too much.

• 49:21Alex Cooper?

  Okay. I love to ask people this because it does give insight. What is your biggest insecurity?

• 49:32Speaker 03

  What is my biggest insecurity?

• 49:39Speaker 03

  Oh my God, I would, I really wasn't prepared for that question. I don't know. I could think of. I mean, every, I don't know, every day it's something different. It's a part of you like.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  What is my biggest insecurity?

• 49:58Speaker 03

  Biggest insecurity, um, I think we all have this where we just don't feel good enough. I don't know. In every, in every sense, you know, I think we can all pick different parts of ourselves and pick ourselves apart for forever. But I really, it's, it's, it's something you have to train yourself against.

• 50:17Alex Cooper?

  When you say you're not good enough.

• 50:23Alex Cooper?

  Take a sip. She's coming back. No, but when you say you're not good enough.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  Everything, like, you know, I mean, I think this business operates like a business, you know, and it's a whole self-worth thing. And then image, yeah, I've been through the gamut of, you know, people growing up in this business, they're gonna see you as a teenager, a kid. They're gonna see you as a young woman coming into your body and expressing yourself. They're gonna see you as a grown woman, they're gonna see you be pregnant, they're gonna see you, um, uh, go through the gamut of, of, of different places and stages of your life where you're different kind of weights. And, you know, we all go through these things as, as women in general, but yeah, it's, it's so hard to just be inundated with different opinions. And, and everybody has different standards for what, what they want.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  And again, women like embracing this now more than ever, so.

• 51:15Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, not being good enough, I think, is the perfect answer that makes sense of just a culmination of this whole interview. It's like you wanting to be yourself and being in an industry where it's like picking apart every fucking thing you do, whether it's the people you're working with or the media. And it's like, it's never good enough, it's never good enough, it's almost like.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  It's never.

• 51:36Alex Cooper?

  Right?

• 51:36Speaker 03

  Never. Cause everyone has a definition of what good enough means. And then the same people are, that are rating good enough, don't feel good about themselves. And so like, where's this all like stemming? So it's cyclical and you have to really i- isolate your perspective. Cause even whenever, you know, someone's comparing you to someone else, you're like, well, wait, should I be compared? Like, you start just second guessing yourself and so, yeah, it's, it's, it's tough out there.

• 52:02Alex Cooper?

  It's tough out there. And how we get through that is by having sex. No, that transition, I'm like, no, let's talk about sex.

• 52:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:28Alex Cooper?

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• 55:26Speaker 03

  What is your favorite part about sex? Getting off.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  I mean, like, but it's not that cut and dry. My favorite part, I love intimacy. Some, it depends, every person is different and that's what I love about sexuality. I love getting into it and finding out how everyone operates. You know, how much of a freak are you? How much of a, you know, submissive are you? Like, what is your, what is your playground?

• 55:57Alex Cooper?

  How much of a freak are you, Christina?

• 55:59Speaker 03

  How much of a freak are you?

• 56:01Alex Cooper?

  I would, I would say, I, actually, this is a question because I will answer that. I will say, I remember my sex in college. I had lost my virginity in high school and I was like, I don't even know what I was supposed to just feel from that. Like, what the fuck just happened? Like, um, was that supposed to feel good?

• 56:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:20Alex Cooper?

  And then when I got to college, I felt like, oh, I'm like having good sex. No, I fucking wasn't. No, I fucking wasn't. I thought, because I was comparing it to high school sex, which was like literally sandpaper and it was like awful feeling. So I'm like, then I think as I started to explore my sexuality more like junior, senior year of college, I started to be more confident and kind of being like, fuck the guy, like, I'm gonna get myself off. And that's when I got a vibrator and I started to use lube. And it's like, when you can get yourself off first and you're like, oh, that is what I want to feel every time I'm fucking a guy, a girl, that whoever it is. So I would say,

• 57:03Alex Cooper?

  as I've explored more in the bedroom, I've just naturally become more of a freak because I'm like, I want to feel this. I want to feel this with my partner. I want us to like, explore new things together, if that makes sense. So it's been like a gradual progression. But I would say like, I wasn't like fucking like great in college and I thought I was like a freak.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  But nobody, you know, nobody is. Nobody knows what they're doing at first. That's why it's, it should feel like exploration and it's okay. But you're so insecure at that age and you, you see these movies and all that. You just want to have it all figured out right off the bat, or, or you're too, you know, young to speak up for yourself. And, you know, it kills me too, whenever you're grown and you feel too insecure to speak up for yourself. When you're not in a relationship that feels safe enough for you to have these conversations, or even to compare notes with other women, you know, because it's so shameful. But, um, but sex is fun. And knowing your body is so important, you know, and you're only going to know your body when you spend time with yourself first,

• 58:06Speaker 03

  so that you even know, so that you even know what to ask for from your partner, or what you like.

• 58:11Alex Cooper?

  Do you incorporate toys into the bedroom?

• 58:15Speaker 03

  I do. I mean, like, you know, as you mentioned, the vibrator was a game changer. Whenever I was, you know, first exploring myself and, you know, first sex store I ever went into and, you know, I was just like, oh my God, I literally remember even having like this little like pocket sized one I could like pack in my bag on an airplane. Like, I was horny, like, you know what I mean?

• 58:37Alex Cooper?

  Are you getting off on an airplane?

• 58:39Speaker 03

  I know, she's getting excited just talking about it. But that's how it should be. Yes, of course. Are you kidding me? Like, sometimes, sometimes it's an anxiety thing too. Like a lot of girls, like when I'm nervous, like I would feel it very early on, like when I was like in school, like even as a girl, like I felt nervous about something. I would be like, oh, oh.

• 59:01Alex Cooper?

  You're like, oh, when did you start masturbating? When was the first time you masturbated?

• 59:05Speaker 03

  Oh my god, when was? Oh, well, I think we all kind of like start as little girls, like when you rub up against things and it feels good and you know, like, you know, I think that's also whenever it's just like, you have to be like, it's okay, like that's for, you know, have your private time, so you're not doing it for another like company and like you just, you have to learn these things and sometimes we don't have good teachers and that make us feel safe. So that came early on. So it was like, you know, some people I think have more sensitive areas and I just, I've always been engaged with

• 59:41Alex Cooper?

  I love it.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  Understanding there's things happening down there.

• 59:45Alex Cooper?

  Christina is masturbating on planes. She's getting off. She's having the best time of her life. What is your best skill in the bedroom?

• 59:56Speaker 03

  Oh, wow. Oh, my god. Yeah.

• 1:00:00Alex Cooper?

  Like, where do I begin?

• 1:00:01Speaker 03

  I mean, hands down, it's, I mean, it's gotta be blowjob. I mean, I'm a, I love a blowjob, you know, I mean, I, and I, you know, I, I know, I, I enjoy it. Like, I had a lot of, um, also like male friends who I was always like, and what do you do here? Like, I was literally, I grew up around them. So it's like, I know every different part and the sensitive areas and I, I like, I literally, I do enjoy it. I hear some women don't like it, but I don't know, man. It's, it's, it's a turn on, you know?

• 1:00:35Alex Cooper?

  It is because, and I love that you're saying that too, because like, we're like, we can enjoy ourselves, get off, there's nothing better than if a guy actually knows how to eat you out, but there's something so hot about pleasuring your partner, because that gets me off. I don't want like him to not be enjoying it, because I know I'm gonna be enjoying myself. Do you have any little tips? Is there any, you're like, I know the areas, like what areas Christina?

• 1:00:57Speaker 03

  Sexuality is a very, you know, specific thing. So like what's one guy might like, another one doesn't, you know, like there are some guys that don't like their balls being touched or tampered with. There are some guys that like brutal things happening to them. And, you know, yeah, there's a lot of different levels, you know? That's why it's important to like be with a partner where you can really just explore. And there's still a lot more things that I have not explored yet that are on my to do list and You know, I think, you know, it's it's hard when you also have kids.

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  Sometimes I it's been like, oh, okay, and you're here. Okay, amazing. So it's it's a lot of things and but it's something you have to make time for. But yeah, I I love that. And I also like, I mean, I think there's there's something to be said after you put in the hard work. I think swallowing is really, you know, a good thing. And it's got a lot of protein, I have to say.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Of the swallow, okay. I like, I didn't put in that hard work for nothing, you know, we we went in there, I got tugged and pulled and like, you know, there's things happening, you know, maybe gagged, I don't know. But you know, I mean, hey, whatever your pleasure points are, but it's fun. It should be fun, you know, as long as you feel good and safe with your partner. Whatever your your bag is, but.

• 1:02:23Alex Cooper?

  I fucking love you. I love you so much. That was fucking amazing. Okay, top three sex positions.

• 1:02:36Speaker 03

  I think, um, oh, you're fun. I don't think, you know, like, you're actually safe to talk to. It's not creepy.

• 1:02:43Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, like a a male journalist like Christina.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Definitely a new dawn, new day to be like, safe about it. It depends on the mood. Uh, definitely, I mean, I I love a lot of positions. Sometimes it's nice, like, early in the morning, like, from your side, from behind. And it's like, there's like, holding involved and like, you know, spooning involved. I like, I love to cuddle. I love to feel like, safe and protected, but then it's like, I get too hot and then I'm like, okay, leave me alone. I just wanted to feel it for a second. Then I'm I'm good. But.

• 1:03:17Alex Cooper?

  The morning from the side is also so nice because it's like we're half doing it, we're not but it's like kind of nice to wake up, you can get your vibrator in there.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  And then your ass starts being like, oh, oh, and you're pulling, I mean, I like it. The chairs might be on me.

• 1:03:32Alex Cooper?

  Cause then halfway through, you're like doing it from the side and then you like kind of flip on your stomach and then it's from behind, the whole thing is nice.

• 1:03:38Speaker 03

  So good. I mean, you know, you don't know where it's gonna go. But um, there's that, yeah, like some good like doggies sometimes, like in the shower. There's, you know, I've been, you know, there's been some good times, you know, like there's like the studio soundboard been, you know, been bent over there a couple of times. It's, it's fun, you know, use your imagination, you know.

• 1:04:00Alex Cooper?

  Christina, I love that.

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  Plane can be fun. We've definitely hid some things under the blankets when the seats are big enough to like, you know, we've been hot, you know, I, I can't believe we didn't get caught like so many times in so many situations, like thanks to Lord, but.

• 1:04:16Alex Cooper?

  I have always thought about that, but I feel like I'm too much of like a pussy that I was like, fuck, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pull that off. Are you talking about a private plane though?

• 1:04:23Speaker 03

  No, I'm not actually. On international flights, you know, they turn the light off, like the chairs are like, I don't know where you're sitting, but you know, there's always like, for like be, get creative and you know, blankets. It's like, it's like the position we just talked about, the little spoon. It's like, oh, I feel safe with my partner here. Like we're just sleeping together.

• 1:04:44Alex Cooper?

  The flight attendant's like ma'am.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, no, you gotta wait till everyone's like going to sleep, you know what I mean? So yeah, you gotta, you know, it's setting the mood.

• 1:04:53Alex Cooper?

  Everyone's like note to self, try to find Christina Aguilera on a flight at some point in life and sit next to her. God, that's iconic.

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  Follow these instructions.

• 1:05:03Alex Cooper?

  I love how open you are just about all this because again, I think something I've tried to do in my show and I love that you are doing is talking about this. It should not be shameful. We should not be embarrassed. Like we're celebrating the fact that we've been repressed for so many fucking years to even enjoy ourselves, to even acknowledge like the lower half of our body and what's going on down there. And I think it's important for. Women like us to sit here and casually talk about something because I know how many women are at home being like, if Christina Aguilera can talk and she's casually coming out being like this is this like it just is, it's an exciting new era I feel like for women and it's like we get to own our shit and be like fuck you if you want to call us

• 1:05:45Alex Cooper?

  a slut or whore or whatever, we don't care because we're not, we're just enjoying ourselves and doing what we should be doing, which is celebrating our bodies and doing the same thing that men have done forever.

• 1:05:55Speaker 03

  It's true, it's really, really true. I think because of generations of like not knowing how to talk about it, being shamed for it. It being like, you know, something that's very, you know, celebrated from a male's point of view and objectified that we don't know where we stand with it, but now more than ever, I feel like this generation is like having none of it. And we want to talk about it, we want to engage, we want to be educated about it, we want to know what's good for it and and we should, now's the time for that and and making sure, you know, that's why it's like music and lyrics, you know, I had a song called Sex for Breakfast on my, you know, one of my albums. We've, we've never been shy about things, but this is literally, you know, just the next progression for me and in passing

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  something down to my daughter that she can enjoy and and understand, like this is nothing to be ashamed of, this is healthy, natural. Put good things on it, you know, vitamin, vitamins for there.

• 1:06:51Alex Cooper?

  Vitamins for there. Okay, talk to me about Playground a little bit because why did you decide to be a part of this?

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  Well, I think the authenticity behind what it means to me, being always in the forefront, either defending, you know, or celebrating or opening conversations and doors for women to be able to feel safe enough to talk about their sexuality and what that means for them because again, everybody is so different. And there's no shame in the game. I just want to really just, um, now at this point in my life, being a mother who has a daughter who's developing her own relationship with her body and asking me, you know, when she sees, you know, that time of the month for me, like what's a, what's a tampon, what does it do, you know, how am I going to? Approach these conversations and and in making her make sure that she uh feels

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  she's taking care of herself so that she can also engage with a future healthy relationship that's sex positive.

• 1:07:50Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  Um sex is very important. I love the product Playground. It's all safe. It's all natural and it just you know, you know, feels good. You know, we've explored with this, um, you know, safe for you. And um, and it's so pretty. It fits in like the palm. I love it. You can put it on your nightstand. It's like your bedside best friend is what I like to call her. And um, and this is a product that's literally good for you and good for your vagina. And like, why aren't we paying more attention to that for ourselves?

• 1:08:19Alex Cooper?

  And I love that you're saying like, why can't we just walk into stores and be like, I'm gonna buy this for my vagina. I'm gonna buy this for my armpits like it should feel like a whole wellness check that I I don't think also women feel like lube specifically has had such a negative connotation because oh, you're so dry. And then a man is like, oh, are you not turned on? And it's like, no, you idiot. That has actually nothing to do with you. Nothing. Like, what a concept. It has nothing to do with you. So I feel like there's still this shame around like pulling out lube. And all I can ever say is like, if you aren't using lube, you're not having the best sex you could be having. Point blank. Point blank. Sex is ten times better with lube. That's a fact.

• 1:09:04Speaker 03

  Percent. And it's like, we wouldn't think of like doing things to our face. Like we moisturize. There there's women that do. We do ten step beauty routines and things. We wouldn't think of like going through a drugstore and not hitting that section, not doing something moisturizing for our hair. Like this is the epicenter of power. Like, we need to be nurturing and taking care of and celebrating this very important part. It literally, yeah, it's the star of the show. So we literally need to be giving, you know, nurture, tender, loving care to it. And also, it should be explored. And what better to help do this than than, you know, sometimes it's a little

• 1:09:42Alex Cooper?

  Get a little something something down there.

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  Good. Yeah.

• 1:09:45Alex Cooper?

  Last question.

• 1:09:47Alex Cooper?

  In a

• 1:09:47Speaker 03

  Ooh, last.

• 1:09:48Alex Cooper?

  Last.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  Overall, ready, girl.

• 1:09:49Alex Cooper?

  No, wait. In a 2018 Billboard interview, you told the journalist to write great things about you. Do you have any great things about yourself that you want to share with the world that you feel like maybe people don't know about you or misunderstand about you that you're like, you know what? Listen to this.

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, I grew up at a time again where there was like a lot of

• 1:10:15Speaker 03

  negativity that was, you know, just always trying to be,

• 1:10:21Speaker 03

  you know, poked, you know, and I'm, I'm also, you know,

• 1:10:27Speaker 03

  you know, I, I have no time for like negativity and it's like I've, I've been in the business long enough to know like, you know, I just want none of it anymore to be a part of like the headline and it's like something that, you know, as a grown woman, you can have more control over, but you know,

• 1:10:50Speaker 03

  I don't like getting poked under the table because then the claws come out. You know, we're in an elevated time in our, in all of our lives where we are more open and talk, talking to each other and I'm just, I want peaceful energy, peaceful vibes, like I don't need to be talking about things that happened, you know, decades ago, like, let's grow up, let's embrace, like now more than ever is the time for that. And so I think,

• 1:11:18Speaker 03

  yeah, just, you know, don't poke the bear anymore. Like, don't poke, don't poke, don't poke me under the table because I'm still not going to be, you know, I'm still not going to be, I'm not going to be baited anymore, you know, like, I, a long time, you know, it happened for a long ti- time too. This happened even, you know, after I had my babies. It's like a lot of people, because they're, you know, they need some attention too. They're like, I'll get poked under the table and be like, it's one of those passive, what do you call these people that are just passive aggressive? They'll poke under the table where no one's looking, then be like, I don't know why she's so, I, I don't know, she's crazy.

• 1:11:53Alex Cooper?

  You know what I mean? And you're like, just leave me alone.

• 1:11:55Speaker 03

  Manipulative, like be- Has like, yeah, don't poke me too much. Like, let's not get it twisted, though. I'm sensitive and all that, but I'm a tough cookie. At the end of the day, I truly don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Like, I just really don't. And I, you know, this is why. Like, I just don't have time for the petty bullshit, or, you know, just, you know, sometimes, you know, the celebrity status stuff. It's just like, I just, I wanna live a real life, and a loving life, you know?

• 1:12:22Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 1:12:23Speaker 03

  I want good things around. My energy space is so important to preserve that, and for my children, you know?

• 1:12:30Alex Cooper?

  No, I appreciate you explaining that, because it's also like, I get what you're saying. It's like, I'm trying to be over here, living my life.

• 1:12:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:36Alex Cooper?

  Stop trying to have me come back into the bullshit that I was in for so long. Decades, decades.

• 1:12:43Speaker 03

  Grown women shit now.

• 1:12:44Alex Cooper?

  Truly, truly.

• 1:12:45Speaker 03

  Kids involved. Examples.

• 1:12:47Alex Cooper?

  Christina, I honestly cannot thank you enough for coming on. I know you don't do this often, and like,

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  I appreciate it.

• 1:12:54Alex Cooper?

  Getting to know you, truly, I respected you before, but like, naturally, when you get to know someone, the respect just grows. And you're such a strong, inspirational human being, and I just, I, I'm so happy I got to sit with you.

• 1:13:09Speaker 03

  Thank you so much.

• 1:13:10Alex Cooper?

  I love you.

• 1:13:11Speaker 03

  I love you too.

• 1:13:27Alex Cooper?

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