Saweetie: Blocked Numbers & Birkin Bags

Join Alex in the studio for a fun interview with Saweetie! Saweetie opens up about her current approach to relationships, the craziest way she caught a partner cheating on her, when you should keep gifts (especially Birkins) from an ex, and why she might be done dating rappers. She also discusses her love of hot cheetos, the time she was renting rooms from Craigslist, coding on Myspace, and her new music. Enjoy!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:02Alex Cooper?

  What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

• 0:11Alex Cooper?

  So Weedy, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Hey girl.

• 0:14Alex Cooper?

  Finally.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Finally.

• 0:15Alex Cooper?

  It's like inappropriate that it took this long for us. You know what I mean? You came to my tour and you went so fucking hard. The daddy gang was taking their tops off for you, screaming for you. Oh, you didn't see that? Upper balcony titties.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  Really? I know that's right, pretty titty committee.

• 0:34Alex Cooper?

  And I had the best time with you. And I was saying to you earlier, like everyone was like, so we don't get a fucking episode. And I'm like, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. How are you today?

• 0:43Speaker 01

  I'm good.

• 0:44Alex Cooper?

  You look amazing.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  You look amazing.

• 0:46Alex Cooper?

  Can we talk about your nails? I feel like you're like very known for going hard with your nails. What inspired these nails today? And when I say these, I'm also talking about your toenails.

• 0:55Speaker 01

  Well, I always get bling on my feet. I've been wearing um, white toenail polish since, I don't know, my twenties. I need like a, a white polish nail deal. Any other color, my feet look weird.

• 1:08Alex Cooper?

  I do feel like no one can go wrong with white toenails, but you have more than like white on your feet. So Weedy, that's like glitter crystals. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a motherfucking diamond down there.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  It's chrome.

• 1:20Alex Cooper?

  It's cr-

• 1:21Speaker 01

  And some diamonds.

• 1:22Alex Cooper?

  How long does it take to do these nails?

• 1:24Speaker 01

  It can range, sometimes it's two hours, sometimes it could be eight to 10 hours. If it's like freestyling, like custom art paint and then jewels, it takes time. It's like drawing a mural on your fingers.

• 1:37Alex Cooper?

  What the fuck are you doing for 10 hours?

• 1:39Speaker 01

  Girl, I try to have meetings. I try to like multitask during my nail appointments, just so I can like get things done.

• 1:48Alex Cooper?

  I am like the opposite where I'm like, if I'm putting on like a fake nail, if it takes more than an hour, I'm like, I gotta go. They're like, but we haven't finished your last nail. I'm like, I don't care. I have, I am like so impatient when it comes to my nails and looking at you today, I'm like, and those are not press-ons.

• 2:05Speaker 01

  But what inspired these is I shot two Christmas music videos. And um, I needed to get into the, the holiday season. So these actually have snowflakes on them and a reindeer.

• 2:15Alex Cooper?

  We, are you a big Christmas person?

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm Filipino. Like, Christmas is such a big deal in our culture.

• 2:21Alex Cooper?

  Okay, cuz I always, whenever someone's coming out with Christmas music, I'm always like, hold on. Are you as obsessed with Christmas as me? Because I go so fucking hard, like.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  What do you do?

• 2:30Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I turn to my husband every single year and I'm like, it's September and he's like, we are not getting a tree, Alex.

• 2:40Speaker 01

  Okay, real trees are fake trees.

• 2:41Alex Cooper?

  I have a real one in my living room. And I go so fucking hard because like, the minute fall happens, I'm, I'm ready for fucking Christmas. And I wanna like, edge towards Christmas. I don't want just December to be Christmas. Like, I want the whole fall experience to be leading up to the main event, if that makes sense. So my entire house I'm decorating. But last year I didn't do the outside of my house. Like, do you do your house?

• 3:05Speaker 01

  Um, I just do it inside my living room.

• 3:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay, yes. You're like making it cozy.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, making it cozy.

• 3:10Alex Cooper?

  What is your favorite Christmas tradition?

• 3:12Speaker 01

  Christmas Eve with my family.

• 3:13Alex Cooper?

  What do you do?

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Like, we open up presents that night, not on Christmas Day. But like, my favorite childhood memories would be like, my mom's mom cooking, um, Filipino food, hella food, doing karaoke, and then at twelve o'clock, we'd all open up our presents.

• 3:29Alex Cooper?

  I always used to be like, please let us open our presents on Christmas Eve. And my mom would be like, one. And then I was always like, the freak that was like, trying to like, open them and then rewrap them at night.

• 3:42Alex Cooper?

  So my mom was like, well then, you're not getting any of your presents. But I was like, I'm obsessed. And it's just like, the best time. Wait, speaking of food, I'm swerving, but I have heard that you like, a lot of like, different concoctions of food that maybe some people would be like, wait, that's gross. Can you talk to me about some of the things that you're pairing together that are like, random but good, in your opinion?

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Okay, so, do you like sushi?

• 4:07Alex Cooper?

  Of course.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Okay, so like, for a tuna roll? I'll get hot Cheetos, and I'll smush them up, and then I'll drizzle them over the tuna roll.

• 4:15Alex Cooper?

  That's fucking brilliant.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  It's actually really good.

• 4:18Alex Cooper?

  But are you bringing the Cheetos into the?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  No, girl, only if I like, do some Postmates.

• 4:25Alex Cooper?

  You're not like smuggling.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  Some muggling and some hot Cheetos.

• 4:30Alex Cooper?

  You got your big purse and you wait for the waiter to walk away.

• 4:35Alex Cooper?

  Sprinkling, not no, though. Like, I'm not mad about it. Okay, so Cheetos on top of sushi. I've read, is this true, spaghetti with ranch?

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Finally, a rumor that's true.

• 4:48Alex Cooper?

  Stop. When is the first time you tried that?

• 4:50Speaker 01

  Honestly, I grew up doing that. Like, that was so second nature to me. So when I had posted it the first time online, I thought nothing of it. And then I was trending like an hour later and like, why is this causing such a frenzy?

• 5:04Alex Cooper?

  You're like, I've been doing this since I was born.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, since I was born.

• 5:07Alex Cooper?

  I think also when you're a child, like you do some stuff that like people, I, I don't know. It's like, I guess like however you grow up, right? But like, this is kind of fucking disgusting and I wouldn't do it now. But like, I'm pretty sure when I was younger, I put,

• 5:21Alex Cooper?

  this is gross. I'm pretty sure I put ketchup on my mashed potatoes.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  Wait, but it's like a french fry. That's where, that's where it comes from. Wait, would she want to hear something nasty?

• 5:31Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  So when I was a little girl, in the middle of the night, I used to sneak into the fridge and eat butter by itself. And one day I got caught by my mom, like red handed, like with a whole bunch of butter. Girl, she scared the crap out of me. She was like, if you continue to eat that butter by itself, you're gonna turn into Chucky. I promise you, I never touch butter again.

• 5:54Alex Cooper?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 5:57Alex Cooper?

  No. Wait, you're just raw dogging it like and biting into it? Sweets.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  I know, so this raw dogging.

• 6:05Alex Cooper?

  You're literally like, like going in with your teeth?

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:08Alex Cooper?

  Would you ever smooth it out so no one saw it in the morning? Or were you just leaving it a little like?

• 6:12Speaker 01

  No, I was, I was going in in the middle of the night as a little kid.

• 6:15Alex Cooper?

  I, I mean, listen, butter is, look at us just fully talking about, we're gonna talk about food the whole fucking episode. No. Um, okay, your legal name is Diamante.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  Yes, girl.

• 6:25Alex Cooper?

  Does everyone in your life call you that? Or do they call you Sweets?

• 6:28Speaker 01

  Um, some people call me Diamante.

• 6:29Alex Cooper?

  What do your best friends call you?

• 6:31Speaker 01

  It depends.

• 6:32Alex Cooper?

  Tell me.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  It depends from what era they met me at.

• 6:35Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  So, um, my childhood best friends, they'll call me Dee Dee.

• 6:40Alex Cooper?

  Dee Dee.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Um, my middle school friends will call me Sweets because that was my MySpace name. And that's where I had got Sweetie from. Like my MySpace was so poppin'. I'd be at like high school parties. Where I'd be at, you know, walking to school and they'd be like, are you Sweetie from MySpace?

• 6:58Alex Cooper?

  What the fuck were you doing on MySpace?

• 7:00Speaker 01

  Girl, I was coding the fuck out of my page. I was, you know, in the middle of the night sweaty finding all the codes. Girl, I was a nerd. So my MySpace was like very aesthetically pleasing.

• 7:09Alex Cooper?

  Stop. You were a coder from day one.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  I was a coder from day one. Not even knowing that I was coding, girl. I should got paid for that.

• 7:16Alex Cooper?

  No, Gen Z has no fucking idea. Like if you missed the MySpace era, changing the backgrounds, getting your new songs.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  Hiding your song or hiding your song that nobody knew about, you know?

• 7:27Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god. And so people literally just knew you because you were fucking cool?

• 7:30Speaker 01

  I mean, I guess.

• 7:31Alex Cooper?

  Okay, wait, but before, now take me back, before you start your MySpace. Where do you get the name Sweetie?

• 7:38Speaker 01

  Uh, my grandma. Yeah.

• 7:39Alex Cooper?

  How did she give you that name?

• 7:41Speaker 01

  She would just call me her sweetie.

• 7:44Alex Cooper?

  Wait, that's so fucking cute.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then I was signing up for MySpace. And at the time, I didn't really like, like my name, how I love my name now. Um, only because people wouldn't pronounce it right. So I was like, I don't want to like, put it up and then people just don't know how to pronounce my name. So I was like, I need some flash it. But then I don't want it to be like, basic. So I put the A between the S and the W and the rest was history.

• 8:06Alex Cooper?

  Who knew then one day that would be like, your global name that the entire world knows you as and not just like a MySpace community?

• 8:12Speaker 01

  But you wanna know what was even crazier is I had started like, um, a business, a hat and a t-shirt business. And my grandma was like, I know you're gonna be a big businesswoman one day. I know that you're going to need your name. So she bought Sweetie. Actually, she bought me the website Sweetie, like, when I was like, I think, I think I was like eighteen years old, seventeen or eighteen years old. She was like, I know you're gonna like, do something. So let me just get this for you because as a businesswoman, you're gonna need to trademark it.

• 8:43Alex Cooper?

  That like gives me chills just because like, it seems like you obviously had like a pretty great relationship with your grandmother.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's everything to me.

• 8:50Alex Cooper?

  Is she still with us?

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Yes. Girl, she's, she's seventy going on twenty-one.

• 8:54Alex Cooper?

  What does she think of your whole career now?

• 8:56Speaker 01

  She has mixed emotions.

• 8:58Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  She loves it, but when she hears like the negative press, it stresses her out. But she's a preacher, so she goes to like war for me in prayer. She's like my prayer warrior, so she's constantly praying for me.

• 9:08Alex Cooper?

  What do you think stresses her out the most and like what could be negative about you?

• 9:12Speaker 01

  I think that the fact that she knows that some of the um, the rumors aren't true. And she's just like, why don't you say anything? Like this isn't who you are. And I'm just like, it's just only gonna make the story bigger. So I choose not to address certain things because I don't wanna add fuel to the fire and the best way to get rid of something is to ignore it. So um, she's just like, yeah, but you know, I know my baby. That's not my baby right there. So yeah, she just be going through it sometimes.

• 9:38Alex Cooper?

  But how did you decide? Like at what point in your career where you're like, do not give a fuck what people say about me? Cause it's easier said than done.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  I have two answers for this.

• 9:46Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  So the first half, I would say in the earlier on in my career, I would say I would just disassociate myself from sweetie. Cause there's Diamante and there's sweetie. I'm like, okay, if y'all knew Diamante to know me and to love me, y'all wouldn't be doing all this shitty stuff to me. Um, so at first it was disassociation, but now I'm just so at peace with just who I am. I'm like, God knows my heart. And as long as God knows my heart, there's no problem.

• 10:14Alex Cooper?

  Sweetie, why are you getting emotional?

• 10:20Alex Cooper?

  Tell me about that. What do you mean? Like you're talking about like your journey to get here.

• 10:25Alex Cooper?

  Oh man, you're making me cry.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  I don't know why that just made me feel that way.

• 10:34Alex Cooper?

  Cause I think that when you are someone that is, you know yourself, like and what it took and everything, and then you read like the bullshit and it's such bullshit. You're like, wait, this is what I'm getting reduced to right now? Like, I mean, I could be speaking out of turn. Like, I don't know if that's your experience, but

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 10:53Alex Cooper?

  It's hard to be like, guys.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  I told myself I wasn't gonna do this today.

• 11:02Alex Cooper?

  One on the clock on a Monday. Without getting too detailed, I'm thinking obviously of like, if someone is listening that's like becoming a new fan today or like knows you, but it's a little like. What the fuck are you guys talking about? Can you lightly just explain a little bit of what we're talking about? Like, are we talking romantic? Are we talking friendship? Are we talking work beef? Like?

• 11:24Speaker 01

  I think it's everything because as a public figure, all parts of my life in those categories are exposed.

• 11:30Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  But I think what I get the most sensitive about is my art. So I'm like, y'all motherfuckers don't know how much I put into this shit, you know?

• 11:38Alex Cooper?

  I think it is important, though, to recognize, like, especially with artists. So much goes into it because it's a huge part of you.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 11:47Alex Cooper?

  Like, you're clearly someone that's not just being handed a script and being like, wear this, dress like this, sing like this, like, this is you.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm very peculiar. So I have to be very involved with everything. Otherwise, I'll get the final product and be like, we gotta change this, this and that. And then it takes away more time. So I'd rather just be hands-on from the jump.

• 12:23Alex Cooper?

  When would you ever pop off on someone? Like, when are you gonna actually, like? What does it take? Never.

• 12:28Speaker 01

  I never wanna go off on somebody because the thoughts that I think are outrageous.

• 12:33Alex Cooper?

  Sweetie.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  Yes, no, my thoughts. And I just did my, like, my Vedic astrology chart.

• 12:40Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  And then that, and that system, my moon is a Scorpio. So it just lets you know, like, where my mind can go. So I'm like, don't fuck with me. For real.

• 12:50Alex Cooper?

  So you're always this calm?

• 12:52Speaker 01

  I try to be. Because I just know, I know myself.

• 12:59Alex Cooper?

  Staring at you right now, you're so, like, even keel, like, calm, like, it's nice. It's, like, relaxing, actually, to, like, be around you. But I'm trying to envision you, like, like, what it takes for someone to, like, push you over the edge. But you rarely let it get to that point.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  No.

• 13:16Alex Cooper?

  Because then they also win.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, also, yeah, let's talk about that, too. It's an energy exchange. And it's just like, I'd rather alchemize the energy. Like, take it and then use this energy for something else. Like, I don't wanna give that back to you.

• 13:29Alex Cooper?

  But I feel like that sometimes in romantic relationships. It can be hard not to go tit for tat and be like, you did this and I did this, but I feel like you've kind of gotten to a place where clearly you're like.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Um, interestingly, it's weird because um, sometimes it's like they want a response out of you. They don't even appreciate the um, the growth.

• 13:49Alex Cooper?

  And it like annoys them when you're like, okay, when you're like, okay, and they're like.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 13:54Alex Cooper?

  What the fuck? I literally just called you an X Y Z and your response is.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  No, you doing it right there, I can only imagine.

• 14:02Alex Cooper?

  That must drive people insane.

• 14:07Alex Cooper?

  It's kind of a superpower. I'm, I'm not as strong as you. I, I like, I.

• 14:15Alex Cooper?

  I feel the same way sometimes with my words where I'm like, I could kill you with my words. And I, I think I, when I was younger in high school and in college, if someone came for me or my friend. I almost felt like worse when I would see my friend, like someone coming for them and I knew they wouldn't speak up for themselves. So then I was the friend that was like. Hold on, let me get the fuck in here and I'm gonna say something. But then I also realized like, who is that helping in that moment? Like, I don't know. I feel like sometimes I felt like being like loud and taking charge and putting the person down would like make me feel better. But like, you're just getting riled up and they're just happy that you're engaging at the same level as them. Where really, when you're like, what are you doing? They're literally like, and they're screaming and they're being insane and you're like, what are, you good?

• 15:01Alex Cooper?

  Oh man, they want to die. They want to crawl into a hole. They're like, oh my god, wait, wait. So I think it's, I agree, the energy level can be interesting. In the way that you interact with someone can like heavily dictate also the way that you leave someone feeling about you.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  Absolutely, and um, it's took me a while to get here.

• 15:17Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it, I wasn't always this like poised when it came to my reaction. So trust me, like, if, as long as you work on it, like, you'll see. Yourself evolve.

• 15:26Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah. Your career took off after you released the song Icy Girl.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:31Alex Cooper?

  And it's all about wealth and luxury, but obviously that's not how your life looked your whole life. I remember reading, you were saying you would go on Craigslist.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:43Alex Cooper?

  And stay. How did that come to be?

• 15:45Speaker 01

  So. You know, when you get an apartment, you have to do first and last, first month's and last month's rent.

• 15:53Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  And I was like, oh, they got money for first month. So I was like, okay, how do I, how do I, um, find a loophole? And the loophole was Craigslist, because when you're running or subletting a room from somebody, you're only just paying for your portion of the rent and it's their name on the lease. So, um, thankfully, I've had some cool roommates. Uh, my two favorite, oh my gosh, bless this old lady's heart. Um, there was a, there was an older lady in Studio City and she had a guest house. Um, and I stayed in, I stayed in her guest house. And then there was another woman who I stayed with in Sherman Oaks. Um, her, I think her roommate was, had to go back and renew his visa. So I had subletted his room.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  And I was just like being blessed with all these good roommates that were clean, nice, respectful.

• 16:44Alex Cooper?

  I was supposed to say, you can have some like horror stories, I feel like, for roommates.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Well, honestly, you have to trust your gut. Like, I'd go see some places and I'd be, I wouldn't like mess with the energy and I'd be like, I gotta go.

• 16:55Alex Cooper?

  You like knew immediately.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  I knew immediately and also a red flag, um, for any, um, people who do do it. Anybody who is super eager and pressing you to rent a room, I wouldn't trust that. Yeah.

• 17:07Alex Cooper?

  That is good advice.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know why, but when you're, when you're thirsty and eager to like have a stranger come rent a room, like I don't trust that personality trait.

• 17:16Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, you're like, why are you desperate?

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, why are you desperate?

• 17:19Alex Cooper?

  Like, I, I, I want, I want to work for a little bit.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know, there's something, just be off a little bit.

• 17:25Alex Cooper?

  That is like beautiful to know, though, that you had like a positive experience with that because it's weird in life when you like get matched up with people that you would probably would have never met.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:34Alex Cooper?

  And then that like has a lasting impact on you and at such like a pivotal time for you where you were like looking for a home and trying to get to the next step of your career and to have someone be so beautiful and like lovely towards you.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:48Alex Cooper?

  That completely changes the dynamic as opposed to if you went with one of the fucking freaks that was like, come on, come on.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 17:58Alex Cooper?

  You're like, where would I be if I took that offer? Um, let's talk about your love life. What's happening? Are we seeing anybody? Are we in a relationship? Are we single?

• 18:08Speaker 01

  I am seeing somebody. Yeah.

• 18:12Alex Cooper?

  Talk to me.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  Um, their name starts with a C.

• 18:15Alex Cooper?

  I thought you were gonna say their name.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  Do you wanna know their their name?

• 18:18Alex Cooper?

  Kind of.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  My career girl.

• 18:22Alex Cooper?

  Sweetie.

• 18:25Alex Cooper?

  No. Not me being like, oh my god, fuck, she's really down today. You're like, ahem, Christian, blah blah blah, damn. Okay, you're dating your career.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, intentionally.

• 18:39Alex Cooper?

  When did you get off the sauce?

• 18:42Speaker 01

  What does that mean?

• 18:44Alex Cooper?

  When did you be like, I'm not, I'm I'm getting off of men for a second, I'm not dating.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  I just feel like I'm at a really special time in my career and I just have all these ideas. And I wanna channel my my energy in a way where I feel like I can make

• 19:04Speaker 01

  the steps to where I see myself going. And, you know, I'm just really happy right now. I'm happy where where my life is heading, so um, I'm dating my career.

• 19:14Alex Cooper?

  I love that answer. I think that like needs to, I I wish that was more of my answer when I was younger. Cause I I think sometimes we've naturally feel like, wait, do I need to get back out there? Like, is it weird that I'm not dating? And it's like, no. I think you need to go through like long periods of time where you can decide what your focus is. And I think that's like amazing that you're focusing on your career.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  And then also, let me say this, I feel like some people who I've dated in the past, we would have been better off as creative partners. Um, there was this TikTok, you know, sometimes TikTok be having the information, girl. There is this woman and I wish I knew her handle, cause I'm so grateful for um, this wisdom she had provided. But she was basically saying that sexual energy and creative energy comes from the same place. And when you confuse the energy, you can sometimes, you know, make, I wouldn't say the wrong decision, but you can lean in more into the sexual energy, but then that ruins the creative energy because you've already depleted the energy.

• 20:11Alex Cooper?

  That's such a good point, like, anyone that ends up have, even if you're not in your specific industry, like, people listening, like, I get it, there's so many people that write in to me about like work relationships. And I get what you're saying, and that's a great fucking TikTok because it's like the way that you can feel when you complete a project, or you get to the next level of your career, or you guys go to a fucking presentation and you crush it. It's like that feeling of like, oh, we we have to rip our clothes off. And it's like, no.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  It's a different way of finishing.

• 20:44Alex Cooper?

  I fucking love you.

• 20:47Alex Cooper?

  What if we were dating? What is it like to date you?

• 20:52Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know.

• 20:54Alex Cooper?

  If all of your exes were in this room right now, what?

• 20:58Speaker 01

  I wonder what that conversation would be like.

• 21:01Alex Cooper?

  What do you think they would all say? Is there a a theme?

• 21:03Speaker 01

  A theme? Oh, my gosh, girl, you have to ask them.

• 21:10Alex Cooper?

  Would that be happy vibes or like bad vibes if exes were in this room?

• 21:14Speaker 01

  I think happy vibes.

• 21:15Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 21:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, because like, I don't really like, no matter what happens, I like, girl, I just be happy. I'm a hap- I'm naturally just a happy person. So I'd like, damn, you did some shady shit, but I'm like, my energy is so disconnected from you that I can, I cannot associate myself with what happened between us and just look at you as a regular human being.

• 21:39Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that's so nice. I think a lot of people wish they could feel that way, like they could not get so wrapped up in, you hurt me and you did this to me. And like, how dare you like?

• 21:49Speaker 01

  But also something we have to unpack too, is a lot of men have unaddressed trauma that they don't face and they project it on their partners. So sometimes I'd be thinking about stuff and I'd be like, what happened to you in your childhood?

• 22:03Alex Cooper?

  No, actually.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  No, right. So then it makes me look at what they did to me because I know that they really love me.

• 22:08Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  Like, I know that. So I'm just like, you got some things to unpack. You should probably handle that.

• 22:15Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  Because if you were to handle that, then we probably would have worked out.

• 22:19Alex Cooper?

  It's such a mature way to look at things, like essentially also what you're saying is like, it has nothing to do with you. And that's, I think, hard for people sometimes to accept, like, if someone is listening to this and just got cheated on and you can't help but sometimes think like, what did I do wrong? Or what did I not give them? Or what? And it's like, most of the time, it literally has nothing to do with you, which is a weird thing because you almost like want to be able to pinpoint in yourself what you could change, so it never happens again. But half of the time, it's literally on the other individual. Like, you were doing fucking great.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:52Alex Cooper?

  You were thriving, sweetie.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  Right. And I knew that I was a good girlfriend. So it's like, I'm like, mm, something wrong with you.

• 23:00Alex Cooper?

  I like that answer. Okay, in one of your songs, you describe your type as someone who makes eight figures and is eight inches. What other qualities do you look for in a partner?

• 23:11Speaker 01

  Somebody who has high emotional intelligence.

• 23:16Alex Cooper?

  Moment of silence for that.

• 23:23Alex Cooper?

  We're like, come to us.

• 23:27Alex Cooper?

  We're summoning you.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Girl.

• 23:35Alex Cooper?

  I, but legit. If they don't have that, I agree with you, but how do you even get to the point where you can figure out, like, are they a sweet talker? Or are they actually like, with it emotionally that they can hang with me?

• 23:50Speaker 01

  Honestly, just experience. We have to experience a unique situation and that tells anybody how somebody is. Yeah.

• 23:58Alex Cooper?

  That's true. Like, the honeymoon stage can be so easy, daddy gang. Like, you can be like, oh, love, the sex, the conversations. And then you hit like one bump in the road. Someone has a problem with family or finances or-

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Insecurity, jealousy.

• 24:14Alex Cooper?

  And all of a sudden, how do you guys handle that?

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 24:17Alex Cooper?

  It's a good point. Okay. It seems like you have a type.

• 24:24Alex Cooper?

  Do you, um, do you know what, do you know what I'm gonna say? What do you think your type is?

• 24:29Speaker 01

  Girl, what's my type?

• 24:34Alex Cooper?

  You brought it up.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  It's yo show.

• 24:39Alex Cooper?

  Rappers.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Okay, let's talk about it.

• 24:42Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Okay, so for example, if you're out of high school, right? You tend to date, I mean, high school or whatever, let's just call it whatever the proximity is.

• 24:51Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  You're gonna date what you're around.

• 24:53Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 24:54Speaker 01

  And I think that's why I found myself in those situations because these are the only people that I'm around. However, you know, I'd like to go to a new environment. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

• 25:07Alex Cooper?

  Do you think you would venture out?

• 25:09Speaker 01

  Uh, well, me and my career is doing just fine right now, so you know.

• 25:14Alex Cooper?

  I like that answer though because I think a t- there's nothing wrong with a type and I also think it's.

• 25:21Speaker 01

  But I wouldn't even call it my, like a type. I think it's just because of the proximity of where I'm always at. These are the people who I'm only engaging and seeing, you know?

• 25:32Alex Cooper?

  Yes, I remember like back in the day, I would talk about how I had a pattern. Pattern is better than a type. What can you be like, no, it was just like a little pattern. I had a pattern of dating athletes.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  How is that, by the way?

• 25:48Alex Cooper?

  So, uh, dating athletes?

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:50Alex Cooper?

  You know?

• 25:56Alex Cooper?

  It'll fuck you up, but it'll make you, it's just, it depends actually what sport too.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  Okay, what's the difference?

• 26:03Alex Cooper?

  So.

• 26:03Speaker 01

  Let's break it down for Icy Gang and Daddy.

• 26:05Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, okay. So, baseball players.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:08Alex Cooper?

  I find that they are sometimes the sketchiest.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Really?

• 26:12Alex Cooper?

  Because they're on the road, they have a hundred and sixty something games a year.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:17Alex Cooper?

  So they're on the road at all times.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:19Alex Cooper?

  And they're playing so many fucking games, whereas opposed to football, it's like sixteen fucking games and like they're not allowed to have girls in the hotel room. It's super strict for football. It's like, we got sixteen fucking games, motherfucker. Bear down and focus.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 26:32Alex Cooper?

  Baseball, it's like, huh, another day, another game. And so it's kind of more of like a relaxed environment. So there's road beef in every fucking city. We got Minnesota road beef, we've got Miami road beef, and they literally like call it road beef.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  What's road beef?

• 26:47Alex Cooper?

  Women.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Oh, road. Oh, hell no.

• 26:52Alex Cooper?

  Fuck you. So, were the, like, and I remember.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  At least be some wagyu beef.

• 26:56Alex Cooper?

  No, no.

• 26:59Alex Cooper?

  But just to confirm, I am the wagyu.

• 27:03Alex Cooper?

  Some ground beef taco meat. No. So in college, I remember I was dating this guy and I would be around his single like baseball athletes. And the way that they would talk about it was so concerning because it was just like every fucking city. There was a different rotation because I think it's like they're just on the move and they're looking like. It's almost like when you're in a bubble, whether you're like, it doesn't even feel like real life. When I was like, living that life with them, like they're just every fucking day is this groundhog day. They wake up, they go to the field, they come home, they have a drink at the bar, they meet the girl, they go to sleep. They do it the next day in the same fucking city. So I would say baseball players are like lethal.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  They seem so clean cut.

• 27:42Alex Cooper?

  No, um, I never date soccer players because that didn't really do it for me. And hockey players, great, great butts. Um, no teeth, great butts, and they're kind of, I thought they were better than baseball players.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  Really?

• 27:59Alex Cooper?

  Still players, but like a little nicer.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  I've never been attracted to athletes.

• 28:03Alex Cooper?

  That's probably for the best, but then again.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  Because like I come from a family full of athletes, so it just always feels like, like, like you my cousin.

• 28:13Alex Cooper?

  I don't want to fuck my cousin.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I've never, because I've never talked to an athlete.

• 28:17Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 28:18Speaker 01

  Never.

• 28:19Alex Cooper?

  I think you also wouldn't have time for them. It's so on their schedule and I think you have such a busy schedule. You've got to be very available for an athlete. Like you've got to be up and ready to pick up and go their life and you don't have time for that shit.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  And now, girl, I literally, I mean, you know this, I shot into like four in the morning last night.

• 28:36Alex Cooper?

  And now you're here.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  And now I'm here.

• 28:55Alex Cooper?

  Are you typically making the first move or are they?

• 28:57Speaker 01

  Um, I have made the first move before.

• 29:00Alex Cooper?

  And is that like you going up to them and approaching them or are you, what's?

• 29:04Speaker 01

  I know, I'm walking up, ten toes down.

• 29:06Alex Cooper?

  And what are you saying?

• 29:09Alex Cooper?

  Flirt with me, sweetie. Let's reenact it.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  I mean, it's just a fan.

• 29:15Alex Cooper?

  Okay, okay, it's like the vibe and the setting, but you're totally down to go up someone.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:19Alex Cooper?

  I love that.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:20Alex Cooper?

  Like if you see something, go for it.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 29:23Alex Cooper?

  What is the boldest way that you've ever put yourself out there for a guy? No.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Okay, this is high school.

• 29:30Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  High school, okay. Actually, in high school, I talked to an athlete. Yeah.

• 29:35Alex Cooper?

  There we go.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  But after high school, no.

• 29:37Alex Cooper?

  Done.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  I remember it was my senior year and I had a crush on this boy. And I was like, dang, I only got one more year to see him on campus.

• 29:47Alex Cooper?

  The clock is running out.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  The clock is running out. You know, he was like, um, I was big in volleyball, I was doing my thing, and he was playing football. And we had a, um, like an athlete room where like the football players would come review their tapes. And then we played during the same season. So, you know, the volleyball girls would come in there and it felt like one big family.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  How do I like get him? Cause he was shy.

• 30:12Alex Cooper?

  Yep.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  Girl, so it's rush week. So I go and I was like, I have a plan. So me and my plan get together and it's lunch and we're all sitting in the room. And finally, I'm like, um, I tap him. I'm like, um, oh, somebody wants to go speak to you outside. He, he was like, who? I was like, you know, like probably one of the organizations that is rush week. And he was like, okay, cause you know, sometimes they'll recruit.

• 30:38Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  And if you weren't an athlete, you couldn't come into the, the room.

• 30:41Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 30:42Speaker 01

  It was like taboo, like heavily frowned upon. So we walk outside and we start walking and he was like, who was it? And I was like, me.

• 30:54Alex Cooper?

  What did he say?

• 30:55Speaker 01

  He started laughing.

• 30:56Alex Cooper?

  It's kind of like really, really forward and I love it.

• 30:59Speaker 01

  He started laughing and he goes like, why? And I'm just like, cause I wanted to talk to you.

• 31:04Alex Cooper?

  Did you end up going on a date?

• 31:06Speaker 01

  Um.

• 31:07Alex Cooper?

  Hooking up?

• 31:08Speaker 01

  We like.

• 31:09Alex Cooper?

  Falling in love?

• 31:11Speaker 01

  We started to go to each other's games. I mean, everybody was already going to the football games.

• 31:14Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  Because um, they were winning that year. And then they were already coming to the volleyball games because you know how the football players got a practice.

• 31:22Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, but we like intentionally started going to each other's games to like support each other.

• 31:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  And then um, we would go to like In-N-Out afterwards, cause like that was like the high school club.

• 31:34Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  Opening to one AM in the morning um, on the weekends. Um, but yeah, I would go over to his house and like his family would cook for me. I would do my homework over there.

• 31:45Alex Cooper?

  So it worked out?

• 31:46Speaker 01

  Um.

• 31:47Alex Cooper?

  Oh, well, not worked out, but I mean, like, oh, what happened? Did he cheat on you?

• 31:51Speaker 01

  No, I got bored.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  So I had to break up with him.

• 31:57Alex Cooper?

  You got bored?

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I was like, I think we'd be better off as friends.

• 32:01Alex Cooper?

  Shout out wherever you are today. We love you.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  But I was honest.

• 32:06Alex Cooper?

  You were?

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm I'm very straightforward. If I feel like something's not working out, like I'll tell you, I feel like we're not working out.

• 32:13Alex Cooper?

  Okay, what is the craziest thing an ex has ever done to you? Give us a fucking story. Come on, sweetie. Come on, this is Call Her Daddy, bitch.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh.

• 32:21Alex Cooper?

  Craziest thing, go.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  It's actually happened to me twice. I don't know where men get their information, but I've had, like, I've broken up with people and they found me.

• 32:30Alex Cooper?

  What? What does that mean? Wait.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  Like they'll show up to my hotel and be like, room service.

• 32:36Alex Cooper?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's happened to me twice.

• 32:41Alex Cooper?

  Room service?

• 32:43Speaker 01

  Yes. And what the cherry on top is they try to make their voices high pitched. They go, room service.

• 32:52Alex Cooper?

  If only there was a fucking camera outside that room of them like.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Girl, but I know, but but then it's like they cover the peephole.

• 32:59Alex Cooper?

  Do you let them in?

• 33:01Speaker 01

  I did. I did. I was like, and you found me? You find me?

• 33:06Alex Cooper?

  You're like somehow you're spinning it. You're like kind of romantic. You put in the work. You found me. How have you been someone to historically get back with exes? Or once you're done, are you done?

• 33:17Speaker 01

  Um, I feel like once I'm done, I'm done. Mm-hmm.

• 33:21Alex Cooper?

  Except for when they show up to the hotel?

• 33:23Speaker 01

  Um.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  I feel like those were like mini breakups.

• 33:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Like it was like we were going through something, I might have blocked them. It probably was like a couple of days or a couple of weeks.

• 33:33Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  And I'm just like, it's like a, a, a soft breakup, you know?

• 33:38Alex Cooper?

  Not a hard breakup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a big blocker?

• 33:41Speaker 01

  I'm a big blocker.

• 33:42Alex Cooper?

  Send you a paragraph and block your ass. And I wanna see them bubbles popping up so I know that you tried to hit send.

• 33:52Alex Cooper?

  I'm obsessed. How long? Cause I'm assuming then you unblock.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  I've unblocked before, but there's people who are still on my blacklist. It's been years.

• 34:01Alex Cooper?

  Oh, and you don't even wonder?

• 34:04Speaker 01

  No, I don't.

• 34:05Alex Cooper?

  Cause I think that, I remember I had a friend that like, we would always talk about this back in the day when I was in my blocking phase and she would always say like, I don't know how you block people, like, I need to see what they're gonna say. Like, it's so interesting to me and I'm like, really? Like, I kinda want it to just fade into the abyss.

• 34:24Alex Cooper?

  I kinda don't know what you're gonna say and like, and then you can kinda like create what you think they would say in your head, but I kinda don't wanna know.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 34:31Alex Cooper?

  Okay, wow, you're hitting paragraph then block. You're a genius. What is your stance on keeping gifts from an ex?

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Um, it really just depends.

• 34:40Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  You know, like if it's a custom one of one, I'm keeping it.

• 34:43Alex Cooper?

  Custom one of one.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:46Alex Cooper?

  Like, what is a custom one of one that you have?

• 34:49Speaker 01

  You know, it's a couple of things.

• 34:53Alex Cooper?

  Jewelry?

• 34:54Speaker 01

  Jewelry purses.

• 34:55Alex Cooper?

  Purses. What's the nicest bag a guy's ever bought you?

• 35:01Speaker 01

  I would say a customized Birkin.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  And he sent it to me before I met him.

• 35:13Alex Cooper?

  What? I don't have, I'm, I'm, I'm a very talkative person, I don't have words.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like some player shit. It was my birthday. I was single and, um.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  You know, we were like casually talking and he was like, um, where's your address? Isn't your birthday coming up? And I was like, yeah, like, oh, that's nice. He's gonna send me flowers. What's funny is, so my birthday passes, it's a week. My maids have cleaned, you know, my condo. And he hits me up and he's like, um, so did you like your birthday present? And I'm like, I never got it. And he goes, um, it should have came in this kind of box. So then I text my maids. And they're like, oh, yeah, we put the box in the, um, the guest room because we didn't know what it was. So I opened up the box. Bitch, I hit that group chat.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  You're like, I was like, oh, yeah. It was nice.

• 36:06Alex Cooper?

  How long after then did you meet him in person?

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Oh, for a while.

• 36:10Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 36:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was working a lot.

• 36:13Alex Cooper?

  You got a whole ass Birkin before meeting a man? You have the voodoo clam.

• 36:22Alex Cooper?

  He didn't even meet you and he knew. But how long did that relationship go? Too long or short?

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Um, I wouldn't even say it was a relationship.

• 36:31Alex Cooper?

  Interesting.

• 36:32Speaker 01

  No, it was just like my player partner. Like.

• 36:35Alex Cooper?

  Did he gift you a lot of things?

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:37Alex Cooper?

  Red flag?

• 36:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:39Alex Cooper?

  Cause like you own it?

• 36:41Speaker 01

  No, I think, I think that might have been his love language, you know?

• 36:44Alex Cooper?

  Interesting.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Like, I didn't see it as like, oh, he's a trick or he's this. Like, I really appreciated his gifts. They were very, like, thought out.

• 36:52Alex Cooper?

  The amount of women watching this that are like, note to self, find a man whose love language is customized Birkins. Um, okay. Worst way that you found out that you've gotten cheated on before?

• 37:04Speaker 01

  No.

• 37:05Alex Cooper?

  She almost up and left the room. She just got up.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Oh, he's my heart, boss.

• 37:12Alex Cooper?

  I'm so weak.

• 37:13Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Hold on.

• 37:22Alex Cooper?

  If you're listening to this not watching, so we need basically just levitated into the air and flipped off the chair.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  I think it's like a little sippy sip.

• 37:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my god. No, bad.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Oh, my goodness gracious.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  I just spilled my water on you, y'all. I need a napkin. Erin, can you please?

• 37:41Alex Cooper?

  That reaction. Holy shit.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 37:45Alex Cooper?

  Jesus Christ. Okay.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  Okay, so I remember I was talking to this guy, right?

• 37:53Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 37:54Speaker 01

  And it was New Year's and I was like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm just so happy to see this person. And we go out for New Year's, the great night, and we go back to the hotel. I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is the most perfect New Year's ever. Like, we're out of town. It's just like the vibes were vibing. You could feel the energy in the streets.

• 38:14Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Like, love was in the air. It's the new year, new me. It's like, all these great things happening, and I'm just like, if I felt like I was in a movie. So we get back to the hotel and I remember I had got a call from like a childhood friend. And when I had picked up the phone, I put it on speaker because I had nothing to hide. And I'm like, oh, Happy New Year's. He was like, Happy New Year's. I love you. Like, you've been killing this shit. Like, keep going, da, da, da, da. So I'm like, you too. Like, love you too. Happy New Year's. I hang up. He's so, like, drunk that he misinterprets the call and was like, you, like, wow, like, okay, like, I know that y'all be doing this, this and that, you know, projecting.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  Like, he couldn't believe that I had a plat- a platonic relationship with this person. And this person's my childhood friend.

• 39:06Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  Like, nothing is going on.

• 39:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Um, so he starts cussing me out. He was like, I would never do this to you. He was like, man, you can go through my phone. My code is da, da, da, da, da. And I go, oh, it's da, da, da, da, da. Da, da, da, da, da.

• 39:22Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  I put the code in my phone. But I'm thinking, he's probably just like drunk, you know?

• 39:26Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Nothing like, it's not the real code. So finally, he goes to sleep.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  So it's time to investigate.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Investigate. Investigate.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Investigate. So I'm like, okay, so I I save the code.

• 39:50Alex Cooper?

  Girl.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  I said ch ch ch and it goes.

• 39:54Alex Cooper?

  You know it's the huh. You're like.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  I'm like, wow, that easy. Girl, this man has been playing me the whole time.

• 40:01Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  But I knew it was like a sickness, because it was like all types of women.

• 40:06Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:07Alex Cooper?

  Did you go for the iMessages first or the pictures?

• 40:10Speaker 01

  Um, I went, I went to the assistant group chat.

• 40:15Alex Cooper?

  Wait.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  I went to the assistant messages, because you know, the assistant set up everything for like the man.

• 40:21Alex Cooper?

  Oh my.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Oh, and then I was typing in keywords, like.

• 40:25Alex Cooper?

  Genius, genius.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  So I was pulling up all the receipts. Yeah, girl, and I remember I had got so sick, but then so numb that I didn't care because it wasn't like, it wasn't like one person, you know, you know, like, it's not, you're not obsessing over one person. It's like, okay, no, you have a sickness.

• 40:43Alex Cooper?

  Right, like, this is, you can't stop yourself.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  You can't stop yourself.

• 40:47Alex Cooper?

  What word did you type into the search bar?

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Girl, anything that's used.

• 40:53Alex Cooper?

  To flirt. You're like P U S S Y thousand, fucking Jesus Christ. You're like, no, that's crazy. And so when he wakes up in the morning, what are we doing?

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Girl.

• 41:14Speaker 01

  Girl.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Girl, girl, girl. You know what time was had.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  I'm like, oh, really? You're a tough guy.

• 41:27Alex Cooper?

  Stop. So, okay, back to the beginning of this this episode, when I was like, what can get you on a different tilt? Did you enter that different tilt is what you're.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  Girl, went to a different dimension. Girl.

• 41:42Alex Cooper?

  Stop.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Girl. Girl, craziest night of my life. My best friend was staying in the same hotel as us. I'm just like, I was like the audacity and then what made me like, I always had add humor to like my pain. So I'm just kinda like, how did this boy get mad over a simple conversation? Yet here you are doing A, B, C, D, E, F, G, X, Y, Z, you know?

• 42:06Alex Cooper?

  No, that's when it's so crazy because I've had an ex like that where he was cheating and I, like he would always get so anxious and say things about me if it was like the most innocent, like we, I don't even know that person. Like, wait, what? Like, here's my phone. Like, I don't know. And when they're so hard on you for that shit, eventually you have to be like, well, what the fuck are you doing that your brain is even on that tilt? Cause I'm not even thinking.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  But it made me realize that when someone does that to you is because that's what they would do. So they're like,

• 42:40Alex Cooper?

  projecting.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  They're projecting from their experience.

• 42:42Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:43Alex Cooper?

  How long did you stay in that situation? Then did you leave? Did you leave that day?

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Um.

• 42:50Alex Cooper?

  It's okay if you didn't.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  Um, no, but um,

• 42:55Speaker 01

  um, let's just say, um,

• 43:00Speaker 01

  yeah, girl. We were out of town and um, yeah, girl.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

• 43:16Alex Cooper?

  I have never had someone answer a question like that.

• 43:20Alex Cooper?

  And yet it says so many words.

• 43:31Alex Cooper?

  Okay, wow. So it ended eventually, though.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:33Alex Cooper?

  Clearly.

• 43:51Alex Cooper?

  Where do you draw the line of forgiving someone when you find out they cheated?

• 43:55Speaker 01

  Honestly, I was younger. So like, I, um, for me, it was like, oh, this is definitely a deal breaker. But you know when like you're in love with somebody, it's just kind of like, okay, well, I can't just delete you out of my life like this.

• 44:10Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  Um, but right now, like in my adult years, like it's definitely a deal breaker for me. And in that moment, I think I would like tell that person, like you probably have to figure out why you're doing this.

• 44:22Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  You know?

• 44:23Alex Cooper?

  Mm-hmm, that makes sense. When it comes to your music, what is fair game of like writing songs about people that have screwed you over? Or you've been in love with, like, where do you draw the line?

• 44:38Speaker 01

  Hmm, I think I, I keep it ambiguous.

• 44:42Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I feel like for my album, I am going into deeper subjects. And I'm really excited about that. I feel like I'm in my diamond era. Like I, well, I came in as an icy girl, but through all this pressure that I've placed on myself and all the pressure that I've experienced with the industry, I feel like it's pressurized me into this, this diamond that's ready to shine.

• 45:05Alex Cooper?

  I fucking love that for you. Obviously, I know you have been teasing an album for a while.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:10Alex Cooper?

  When can people expect it to come out?

• 45:13Speaker 01

  Definitely next year.

• 45:14Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:15Alex Cooper?

  Why was it so important for you to wait to release it?

• 45:19Speaker 01

  I feel like I finally know myself.

• 45:21Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Like when, I felt like I was constantly in this weird transition phase, especially with recording, like what am I even talking about? But with who I am now, I know what my public messaging is.

• 45:32Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Christmas songs, we need to talk about this. I'm in my car, I'm like, ooh, ooh, ooh. And like we said at the beginning of this episode, I fucking love Christmas, you love Christmas. Talk to me about deciding to do these two Christmas songs. Like, how did you decide to do this?

• 45:45Speaker 01

  Well, you know, I love Icy Season because I'm an icy girl. And it's just like, I gotta give something to the icy gang this winter. So I wanted to create like two songs that really spoke to the two different sides of Christmas. I got Big Santa where I'm like, big daddy, what you getting me? And then my other Christmas song is a little bit more, you know, softer, it's like cater to you vibes. Like, not only like, what can you give me, but what can I give you?

• 46:09Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god, so sweetie. It's good, like, everything that you do and put out, all of your music is such a vibe. And I think, like, again, I'm happy I got to talk to you today for a longer period of time than just like, meeting you on tour. But like, watching you on stage at my tour was such a spiritual experience, truly. All of us were like, holding hands and gripping each other, being like, she's fucking insane. Even to the point where my team had texted me when you were in soundcheck, being like, oh, this is gonna be the best yet. Like, you guys don't even know, you're so talented and you have such a presence onstage and just like, as a person. That I think is so exciting to see what you're going to obviously continue to do.

• 46:54Alex Cooper?

  But like, I'm obviously so excited for the album and, you know, we, we want it, sweetie, we, we want it. I wanna ask, just because I know, obviously, your fans are gonna be watching this. Like, what is one goal that you have for yourself coming up in this new year? And like, your career that you wanna like, share with your fans?

• 47:13Speaker 01

  Um, I wanna be in an action film.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  Like a Tomb Raider, or like a, like a Columbiana. Something with just action, cuz I really love like, doing stunts, and I'm a sporty girl. But I love a good heroine.

• 47:28Alex Cooper?

  That is the last thing I expected, and yet, like, I can see it. Wait, are you like, gonna make that happen?

• 47:35Speaker 01

  I would like for it to happen. God, do you hear me?

• 47:38Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, like, here we go. Anybody watching this in Hollywood? Hello? Wow!

• 47:42Speaker 01

  And I auditioned too. I'm not one of those people where feel like, where I feel like I can just show up and get the role. Like, I be sending in audition tapes.

• 47:50Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. I guess like, last question is like, what do you think, what do you think is the biggest misunderstanding about you?

• 47:58Speaker 01

  I'm not sure what the collective thinks, cuz everybody has their own opinion. But one thing that I do get a lot is that when people meet me, they say that they didn't expect this. I guess they, like, that's, it's a, it's a common response that I get. But it's for the better, cuz they be like, wow, like, the compliments are different. But for some reason, there's been a disconnect with who I am and what my perception to like, the world is.

• 48:24Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. That's interesting, cuz I, I-

• 48:29Alex Cooper?

  I guess like I agree and disagree like when I listen to your music it's so confident like you put this shit on you're like I'm gonna fucking feel good when I'm listening to your music and I think everyone feels that way and it's it's like a experience that you literally feel in your body where you're like oh fuck yes like I'm about to pop my pussy tonight let's fucking go and then meeting you you are a multi-dimensional person like you're not just the person that's hyping everyone up like you have this like sweet sensitive side that I'm like meeting today and I met in Oakland and I think that's something that we don't get to see as often with artists because understandably like

• 49:11Alex Cooper?

  we're listening to music but when we are so fortunate to get to also get to know the personality behind the music

• 49:19Speaker 01

  Right

• 49:20Alex Cooper?

  I have found through my job and it's my favorite part of my job when I meet someone and they are a little bit different than maybe the main public persona that's being pushed because I think it's again just shows people like we don't know everything like you can listen to a song and think that people know you you can go listen to one of my episodes and be like oh she's this one way but understandably like I'm gonna be different when I'm having a fun episode versus when I'm talking about like trauma and shit you know what I mean like we show up in different ways for different moments of our life and I feel like you're such a beautiful person that I'm so happy that I got to sit with you because I didn't know as much about you as now I I'm happy to know and like

• 50:04Alex Cooper?

  I love you I think you're like such a great fucking vibe and I'm so happy that we've gotten to connect on this level because I don't I I like sitting with people and getting to know them more and you're amazing

• 50:15Speaker 01

  No thank you and today like I realized why you're number one

• 50:18Alex Cooper?

  Stop

• 50:19Speaker 01

  Yes this was such a a comfortable safe and fun experience girl you almost had me crying in the beginning

• 50:27Alex Cooper?

  You almost had me crying

• 50:28Speaker 01

  I was heaving

• 50:29Alex Cooper?

  I was like

• 50:31Speaker 01

  Hold on bitch, don't drop a tear.

• 50:34Alex Cooper?

  No, I really appreciate you going there with me though because again, like, everything we see online, it can come off as fake. And I think when you get to do long form shit like this, you actually get a chance to like, start to finish, like, people now are going to understand you more. Not that you need to give that to them, but like, you're a great fucking person, so why not?

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 50:54Alex Cooper?

  Thank you. Oh my god, sweetie, we did it. Thanks for coming to call our daddy.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  Thank you.