Behind the Scenes Minis: Percy Theories

Holly shares additional details of Percy Fawcett's life, including theories about his interest in spiritualism leading him to some odd conclusions. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:58Holly Frey?

  Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeart Radio.

• 3:09Holly Frey?

  Hello and happy Friday. I'm Holly Frey.

• 3:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

• 3:13Holly Frey?

  Oh, boy, did we talk about Percy Fawcett this week.

• 3:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  For the whole week, yeah.

• 3:17Holly Frey?

  And Manuscript 512, an exploration in Brazil.

• 3:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yep.

• 3:22Holly Frey?

  And the really, really awful ways Europeans treated the indigenous peoples there.

• 3:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 3:29Holly Frey?

  And all of it. There's so much extra fascinating stuff that didn't make it, obviously, because there's tomes.

• 3:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 3:37Holly Frey?

  There's so much, there's so much. I am fascinated by Percy Fawcett. I have zero hero worship of him, which is how a lot of stories about him kind of get told. And he was very accomplished, and I don't want to detract from that. But there's also part of me that's like, this is why people need therapy.

• 3:57Holly Frey?

  Because I just, I mean, I really feel like a lot of his draw away from Europe and his family and to this life of adventure had to do with stuff that he was maybe not dealing with in other ways. But that's just my take on it. There is a lot of interesting stuff about him that I did not include. I also will say, reading his accounts is entertaining when it's not the gross, condescending, racist stuff.

• 4:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sure.

• 4:28Holly Frey?

  Sometimes his turns of phrase are quite funny. There was one that I wrote down that said, "The clean freshness of the Pacific welcomed us when the fever-haunted Goyas River vomited us out on its muddy tide."

• 4:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, dear.

• 4:41Holly Frey?

  And I was like, oh, look at you. I quite like that. That's gross, but okay. One of the other things we didn't talk about, and it is part and parcel of that whole problem of the way that these indigenous people have been treated by so many.

• 4:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 4:57Holly Frey?

  Is that when the skeleton was found.

• 5:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 5:02Holly Frey?

  There was apparently some sort of deal made that the people that were spoken with that agreed to show that person where Fawcett was buried, they were supposed to get some sort of compensation out of it.

• 5:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 5:21Holly Frey?

  And after the fact, they did, question mark? I mean, they did, but like, when I tell you what it was, you're gonna be like, err, because I was. Because it's so clearly another of those instances of like, these people have no sense of what value is, so we'll just dump some worthless crap on them. They literally did a flyover, and they dropped 10 pounds of glass beads and a roll of fishing line that was worth $75. And that's what was reported in the paper as the fair trade on all of this. And I'm just like.

• 5:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Wow, okay.

• 5:52Holly Frey?

  What? What? What? And like, you should hide that information, not publish it in the paper like you're proud of it.

• 6:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 6:02Holly Frey?

  So gross, so gross. There is also a PBS episode on Secrets of the Dead about Fawcett and this expedition.

• 6:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 6:16Holly Frey?

  That is entertaining to watch.

• 6:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 6:19Holly Frey?

  And I don't wanna, you know, throw shade at anybody involved, but it definitely focuses a lot more on the hocus-pocus side of things.

• 6:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 6:29Holly Frey?

  Which is fun to talk about, but not worthy of being in the episode.

• 6:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 6:34Holly Frey?

  Like, one of the moments in it, and there is some very real, like, research and discovery work that goes on in it, but there are also some things that I'm like, mm.

• 6:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 6:44Holly Frey?

  There is this one through line through it about how Fawcett had become so fascinated by mysticism and spiritualism, and specifically, the writings of another frequent appearer on the show, Helena Blavatsky. And he and his wife Nina were kind of both on board with this, and they had gotten, according to some scholars, to this point, having read a lot of predictions and, you know, kind of spiritual, like, claims that there was gonna be a white person born who was going

• 7:28Holly Frey?

  to eventually have children with someone from one of the tribes of Brazil, and that this would be like the dawn of a new era of humanity, and that perhaps Nina and Percy thought that Jack was that person.

• 7:42Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 7:43Holly Frey?

  And that that is why he chose to bring a son who had no experience in exploration on a mission he himself noted constantly was incredibly dangerous.

• 7:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Wow.

• 7:56Holly Frey?

  That's also super weird.

• 7:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 7:58Holly Frey?

  And I don't know. And it's one of those things that, going back to conspiracy theories, which we've been talking about, it's easy for people to, like, buy into that because there's no evidence against it.

• 8:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 8:08Holly Frey?

  And they know that he did some kooky spiritualism. And like, similarly, that goes along with the idea of, like, he never intended to come back. He always meant to go and live in this city if he found it. And like, that is why he vanished, and no one's ever found anything. He has hidden himself and is living like a god. And it's like, well, you can't prove a negative, so there's no, there's, it's very weird. If it can't be found, that theory can always pers-.

• 8:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 8:40Holly Frey?

  It's very kooky. That's also one of the theories about the misinformation that appears about the location of the camp.

• 8:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 8:50Holly Frey?

  Like, some people are like, it's a typo. Others are, he was trying to prevent people from getting to the dangerous area. And then the conspiracy theorist side of it is, he didn't want anybody to find his stuff, like, that he was really going to hide. I don't know. It all seems super kooky to me. There's also an interview with his granddaughter who has a ring that was his, that was found by one of these expeditions, and it has the family motto engraved on it in Latin, which is "Fear no obstacles." And she says that she took this ring to a psychic, and that the medium dropped the ring and said it had been covered in blood, like, so much blood, and that, like, it's

• 9:33Holly Frey?

  just kind of helped foster this very misterioso version of his story.

• 9:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Ah.

• 9:39Holly Frey?

  Which I feel bad, because I'm such a skeptic, where I'm like, I know people want to believe this stuff, but I'm just like, mm. I think he died. I really like the, they died of, I mean, I don't like it, but I'm more prone to land on the, they either died of disease, got very hungry, something went wrong because Raleigh had an injury, and there was no way there was, he was gonna be able to keep up, and either they stayed with him in a dangerous place, or something hap-. Like, that's more reasonable, in my opinion, than any of the other explanations.

• 10:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 10:11Holly Frey?

  Especially because as more anthropologists have been doing work in the area, and they have gotten to know a lot of the indigenous tribes there, and they have talked, asked them, like, have your relatives ever talked about this person? Because the idea of, like, a white dude just traipsing around with his machete in the bush, like, thinking he's gonna find stuff, that sticks in cultural memory. And so a lot of these people are like, oh, yeah, my uncle, my grandfather, my, you know, some ancestor talked about that guy. But the stories are always very benign, like, oh, yeah, they gave him some food and kind of pointed him in the right direction. Like, it's never like, and then they tried to murder him, like.

• 10:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. They had this musical instrument and played it in a river.

• 10:55Holly Frey?

  The accordion thing is very good. I will say, that is my favorite thing I came across in all of the reading. And it is so weird. Listen, this is another one of those things where, like, that's not the marriage for me, I could tell you that.

• 11:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  No.

• 11:10Holly Frey?

  Like, if my beloved just constantly was like, yeah, you're cool and everything, but where I really want to be is in Brazil without you, I would be like, huh, what is this marriage exactly?

• 11:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  I don't think I would enjoy that at all. But again, every, everything's different on the inside than what people outside of it can see.

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• 17:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  This is one of those things where all of this, like the name of Percy Fawcett, the name Lost City of Zed or Zee, those are things I've heard.

• 17:57Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 17:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  Not anything I've ever felt compelled to go tracking down information on or spend a lot of time thinking about. As a person who, you know, reads science fiction and fantasy books sometimes, sometimes the idea of a lost city is a theme in.

• 18:17Holly Frey?

  Oh, yeah.

• 18:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  In literature, but it's just like, this is not a particular person that I have felt like I, I needed to go learn a ton of stuff about because I was just like, I don't really, not, I don't know. I don't know, man. I'm not in any way saying we should not have done this episode. It's actually really fun. And I know a lot of people are very into his story and very into the lost city that he thought that he was going to find. And it's just like not ever, it's been a thing that has just sort of skimmed across my consciousness in a very superficial way, not something I have ever spent a lot of time devoting mental resources to.

• 18:55Holly Frey?

  Right. Well, you're probably not also as into like the Indiana Jones fandom as some of us.

• 19:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sure.

• 19:01Holly Frey?

  Which is part of it, right? A lot of those people, that's how they get to Percy Fawcett. He's one of the many names.

• 19:06Tracy V. Wilson?

  I see.

• 19:07Holly Frey?

  That come up in relation to potential inspirations.

• 19:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Past hosts of the show did a Who Was the Real Indiana Jones episode one time long ago in the past. And I went to just look and see, I was like, I would, because you had asked me a while ago, we've never done this, right? And no one else did.

• 19:26Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 19:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I did what I felt like was a pretty thorough search.

• 19:29Holly Frey?

  Me too.

• 19:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  But then, when you mentioned Indiana Jones, I went, uh-oh. The Indiana Jones episode from past hosts. And when I went and looked at that, he really is just mentioned by name one time. There's nothing further else.

• 19:42Holly Frey?

  Drive by. Oh, here's another one that we're not talking about. Yeah.

• 19:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  So, yeah.

• 19:46Holly Frey?

  Which is, I mean, that is the era too, where there were a lot of men like this who believed that they were going to go conquer the world that white men had not civilized yet, which comes with its own gross baggage that I'm not a fan of. And I, I think that's, I hope, here's my. For people that love his story.

• 20:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 20:10Holly Frey?

  I mean, I, I hope you don't hate hearing that I'm not his biggest fan, but after waiting through all his writing.

• 20:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Holly Frey?

  It's, there's so much gross racism in there. And it's like, in one breath, he can praise one group of people and then the others say the most disgusting things about another.

• 20:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right, right.

• 20:28Holly Frey?

  And I just can't square with that. Like, I, again, sure, you can do the, he's a product of his time. And I do understand that particularly among explorers like that, like people with his mindset, that was probably gonna be what was into, what was happening. There was always this sense of white superiority and like,

• 20:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 20:49Holly Frey?

  Well, I have these things. We have modern civilizations, so they're lesser than us. And I just hate it.

• 20:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 20:56Holly Frey?

  And I hate reading some of that writing because it literally turned my stomach in some cases. I'm like, how can people today tell his story like he was this kind, respectful person to indigenous cultures?

• 21:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 21:10Holly Frey?

  He was kinder than many, but he was still a mess. Really condescending and really racist. And that, that was very problematic for me.

• 21:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  This is why I like, I like sort of exploration stories, travel stories. They're fun a lot of the time. But I definitely have some women explorers that have been, they sort of flit up onto my shortlist and then they disappear again. Because I will be like, oh, that sounds really interesting. And then I'll go read some of the things that they said and go, nevermind.

• 21:42Holly Frey?

  Less interesting.

• 21:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  I did not actually want to read that level of like derision and condescension about the people that were inviting you into their home to feed you while you were on this journey.

• 21:56Holly Frey?

  Yeah. I will say that, one of the things that is interesting about his writing, and I didn't like, track this in any kind of real data analysis way, but it does almost seem like he is more critical of the, using his term, civilized parts of

• 22:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, sure.

• 22:22Holly Frey?

  South America, like the cities where there are things like hotels and more like what would be recognizable as a city to somebody who came from Europe. Whereas when he gets into actually interacting with some of the indigenous peoples, it almost seems like it's a little less so, but I, I don't, I don't know. And I feel like some of that is kind of him. It's, comes off as me, again, this is my lens and maybe I have my own problems. It comes off as a little boasty of like, well, I had a great relationship with them because I'm smart enough to have learned how to communicate with them. And it's like, oh, okay, cool. Cool. Why did, again, why did you bring two young men who had no experience

• 23:05Holly Frey?

  on what you said was the most dangerous journey you were ever gonna do?

• 23:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right, right.

• 23:11Holly Frey?

  You are not all that, my good man. You did a lot of things I could not do.

• 23:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:15Holly Frey?

  But also, what? Yeah, it's weird. The hero worship of him weirds me out a little bit.

• 23:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 23:21Holly Frey?

  But the hero worship of most people weirds me out a little bit. So, you know, take it with that flavor.

• 23:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:29Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 23:32Holly Frey?

  Yeah. Oh, fascinating. But I'm glad that we got to discuss it. I'm also glad that there have been more people that have gotten more information from the descendants of people he may have encountered.

• 23:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 23:46Holly Frey?

  Particularly that account that had, and that was actually pretty soon thereafter, the account where they're, that one tribe is saying, no, we actually were kind of keeping tabs on them because we were worried about them. And after we didn't see smoke for a few days, we went to check. But like, that's the last we saw of them.

• 24:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 24:04Holly Frey?

  Could that be a cooked up story? Sure. But I, that seems to make more sense, again,

• 24:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 24:11Holly Frey?

  to a person that's like, I'm just gonna go into the bush and find this lost city with very little support, which just seems foolish. That's the part I keep getting back to. I know you think that's nimble, but it just sounds foolish.

• 24:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 24:28Holly Frey?

  Anyway, that's my take on Percy Fawcett, which maybe people don't like. If you love to hero worship him, I'm so sorry, but not for me. Here's what I hero worship. People who are really kind to one another. It's my favorite thing. So if you are headed into your weekend and you have time off, maybe you have time to just do a kind gesture. Do something nice for a stranger. That always makes me feel so good. That'll fix some ills in your heart. If you don't have time off, I really hope everybody is kind to you if you're working, especially if you're in a service job. I hope people are nice to you and not jerks, but I know that's not often the case. So pretty please, everybody be nice to people in service industry jobs and any job. Just be nice to each other. Take

• 25:09Holly Frey?

  care of yourself. I hope you find time to relax. If you have a lot of time to devote to reading, there's a lot of writing by Percy Fawcett, if you want to read it. We will be back here on Monday with a brand new episode. We will also be back tomorrow with a classic.

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  Snoring, gasping for air during sleep, daytime sleepiness? I'm Shaquille O'Neal and this shouldn't be anybody's experience. Ask your doctor about Zepbound trisepotide, the first and only FDA-approved prescription medicine for moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea in adults with obesity. Zepbound is a prescription medicine used with a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity to help adults with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, OSA, and obesity to improve their OSA. Zepbound is approved as a 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, or 15-milligram injection. Zepbound contains trisepotide and should not be used with other trisepotide-containing products or any GLP-1 receptor agonist medicines. It is not known if Zepbound is safe and effective for use in children. Don't share needles

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