Trump Called NATO's Daddy, Rogan vs. Liver King, Biden Autopen Scandal & Mamdani Wins | PBD Podcast | Ep. 608

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick unpack Trump being dubbed NATO’s “Daddy” by Secretary‑General Rutte, the bizarre beef between Joe Rogan and Liver King after the influencer was arrested for terroristic threats, and the seismic upset as Zohran Mamdani defeats Andrew Cuomo in the NYC mayoral primary. ------ 💼 BDC's 5X5 MATRIX OVERVIEW: https://bit.ly/4k8ZL1y 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:09Speaker 02

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, we are back here. Another podcast. We got a few things to talk about. The president was called daddy by one of the leaders in NATO. Can you imagine that? They call him daddy. Respect. And a lady who's asking a question says, do you feel like you're their daddy? Like you're their dad? And it's so funny, the moment that even Marco Rubio can't control himself. But then there was a very unique moment between him and a Ukrainian reporter whose husband is in war, asking him a question and she starts getting emotional. It's a, did you see this? I did not see this one. It is so powerful. I cannot wait to share this thing with you guys. New York mayor for Democratic side. The winner is out. Mamdani beat out Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo conceded.

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And one of the most recognizable. Realtors in all of America, Ryan Serhant, came out and told everybody what type of calls he's getting, of people that own a lot of real estate and what they want to do next. This is already creating a element of a domino effect where people are thinking about what they're gonna be doing next. Eric Adams comes out and calls out Mamdani, publicly, if this guy really wants to do something, he's been able to do it for a long time. Then there's a Republican candidate, Chris Willa, I believe, who's been around for a while, he always wears a red beret. There's just a lot of stuff going on in New York, and it's gonna be interesting if New York's gonna turn into the next Dearborn, the next Detroit, the next London, who knows what it's gonna turn into? But we will definitely be talking about that as well. Pete Heck said this morning,

• 2:51Patrick Bet-David?

  got up and addressed the claims that the the bombs they dropped didn't necessarily do anything to the nuclear facilities that New York Times and CNN has been claiming nothing happened to, they're fine. Chomene came out for the first time this morning, said a few words, and he called out the US in a very direct way, you know, I'll share that article with you, Rob, on what he said Chomene this morning with, you know, the fact that, yeah, they tried, nothing happens, we're stronger than ever before, and it's almost like a, almost like instigating. You know, it's not a position of trying to calm things down, it's like coming out and saying, you didn't do nothing. Publicly trying to humiliate the president, it's what it sounds like, but uh, who knows how they're gonna be handling this, but we'll talk about that as well.

• 3:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump says, I don't want the Iran regime change, it creates so much chaos, he's not interested in that. Um, couple other stories here that we have, Massey and the president go back and forth about the big beautiful bill, we'll react to that as well. Austin Metcalf, suspected killer, indicted on first degree murder charge in track meet, stabbing, US liability insurance on verge of breakdown from tide of claims. Guys, can you imagine? US, uh, all these insurers who protect you when something happens to you, imagine if all of them all of a sudden said, we're out, we don't want to get into this business anymore. What would people be doing? Think about that for a second. What would that do to property valuation? What would that do to a lot of different things?

• 4:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you buy your property and pay premium for it if you know you're not protected? If a tornado, hurricane, something causes some chaos into that place, would you still want to buy that property? These insurers are declaring, they're letting the public know, hey, here's a problem we're facing, how do you want to help us out? Um, next one, this is devastating to a lot of people, so I just want to kind of brace for impact when I share this article with you guys. It says your, your brain physically changes when you work too much. Scientists warn, it's a warning. Oh God. Don't work too hard, folks. Uh, you know, just relax, enjoy yourself. Don't work too hard. Try to collect claims, maybe, you know, go on some kind of entitlement programs and enjoy. Let other people work hard. And you take, you know, some, what is all these different kinds of programs, right? Smart.

• 5:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a wiser thing to do according to the scientists. Maybe it's even a completely different position. Teacher's union head gleefully declares that her union owns American children. Let me say that one more time. Teacher's union head gleefully declares that her union owns your kids. I change it. Owns American children, owns our kids, owns your kids. Isn't that kind? Don't you love the fact that a head of a union is happy about the fact that they own your kids? How does that make you feel? We're gonna go into that a little bit more. She's not wrong. Ex Biden aide Neera Tanden tells Oversight Committee she was authorized to use the auto pen. What?

• 5:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Authorized to use the auto pen. Vinnie brought a pen in here to show how this stuff works. And, you know, he's gonna try to do my signature. It's not easy. I've been having enough all night. It's like a doctor's signature, but it is what it is. Tom Homan warns Iranian sleeper cells could be hiding in US as a result of Biden's border crisis. But at the same time, he tells Pod Force One, he's living apart from his wife over death threats. Can you imagine how many jobs you can have in America and this job that you have is so bad that you can't sleep next to your wife? You have to worry about your death threats that you're getting left and right. He's trying to protect his family. Of course he is. I totally get it. Rogan and Liver King. Liver King apparently went to Austin, made some inspirational videos.

• 6:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, how would you describe those videos? Very gentle, kind, loving. Very sweet, nothing, nothing out of the ordinary, no, no scratches. I've spent time with him on the podcast. We had a conversation with him the moment the scandal came out and uh, he, and Joe responded, you know, about the fact that he's been trying to get on the podcast. Rob, if you don't have that clip of Joe responding, if you could find it to go to it. It's not hard to find. It's, it's, uh, it's everywhere. Candace Owens torches Trump. I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him. This is from a media story. I think this is from Pierce Morgan, if I'm not mistaken. We'll go to that as well. Joy Reid suggests Iran having nuclear weapon, ready for this folks, might make Middle East calmer.

• 7:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So it, it's actually not a bad thing if Iran has nuclear weapons, but it doesn't stop there. CNN host says the following. The anchor says Iranians chanting death to America are friendly. They're very friendly. Can you imagine? We want to kill you. What a friendly group of people here. This is amazing how nice they are. Uh, Wall Street panics over prospects of socialist running New York City. Trump calls Mamdani a communist lunatic. Rubio cracks up. We'll talk about that. Eric Adams, we'll talk about that. Trump calls Fed Chair Powell an average mentally person and says he's working on replacement.

• 7:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And uh, stunning turnaround, the stock market is on the verge of an all time record. CNN data guru embarrasses Tucker Carlson with an Iran poll. Okay, Adams got some thoughts on that one. And then NATO chief, we talked about the daddy situation. Uh, being called daddy. All right. Folks, uh, if you're watching this, one of the things that is very important in a time like this, while all the chaos are happening. If you're running a small business or you're an executive or somebody that's a startup, you're trying to raise money. You're trying to sell your business. You're trying to make proper strategic partnerships. Maybe, you know, take your comp plan to a different level, variable comp to a different level. You want to find a better way to expand your business model.

• 8:36Patrick Bet-David?

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• 9:20Patrick Bet-David?

  or find out about our events, go to betdavid.com, fill out the information all the way at the bottom. Put your phone number in, put your email in. One of our guys will get ahold of you, will talk to you about what we have to offer here and share with you the PDF of the five challenges every founder faces at five different phases of their business. So again, go to betdavid.com. This is all free. There's an 18-minute video that breaks down the challenges as well for you to watch. Specific to those of you that are running businesses, executives, I want to take your business to the next level. And find strategies to excel during these chaotic times. Don't do it alone. If there's anything I will tell you is, don't do it alone during these seasons. Having said that, let's get right into it. New York. New York City Mayor

• 10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  on the Democratic primary, Mamdani beats Andrew Cuomo. This is not something people expected. He's a 33-year-old former rapper who said a lot of weird things. He says he's gonna make childcare free for everybody, buses free for everybody. There's a lot of things that's gonna be given free. He's a communist, some call him a socialist, Muslim. There are certain things that he has. They're calling New York that could be possibly the next London. New York could turn into the next Dearborn, could turn into the next Detroit. There's a lot of concerns there. It is so bad with what they're talking about with New York that even Ryan Serhant, who is the big real estate influencer, this is the type of guy that puts up properties for sale in New York for 200-plus million dollars. That's who he represents.

• 10:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's who those clients want to do business with. And here's what he had to say.

• 10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Luxury real estate broker says wealthy New Yorkers are already looking to flee after Zohran Mamdani's primary win. Rob, if you can go to the next page on that Instagram post. Within minutes of Zohran Mamdani clinching the Democratic nomination Tuesday night, real estate agents like Ryan Serhant were flooded with calls from clients looking to walk away from deals to buy apartments in New York City. So imagine I made an offer on a property that I'm buying, five, 10, 15, 20, 30 million dollars. I'm like, I'm out. We're in the middle of it. Imagine a realtor is about to make $200,000 in commission, $50,000 in commission, $400,000 in commission. We're out. We're not doing this. This is not a good investment. If this takes place, if you want to go to the next slide, Rob,

• 11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  if you can, on that Instagram post. My number one job, he says, will be moving people from New York to Florida. Again, based on the results, clients are going to hold off on making any kind of investment in New York City. By the way, he does not benefit from saying this. You guys understand, like, his business is New York business. He doesn't benefit from saying something like this. He wants people to stay in New York to do well, but at the same time, it benefits them as well if people leave because they're buying and selling. Rob, if you want to go to the last slide, if there is one. Okay, so this is from Ryan Serhant. Now, why are so many business owners, entrepreneurs concerned about what's going on here with Mamdani? Rob, can you put up the video clip about

• 12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Mamdani winning and what happened there with the primaries? This is Eric Adams, okay? Mayor Eric Adams, who says, you know, all the claims that Mamdani is making of what he's going to do to New York, he can do today if he really wanted to. Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

• 12:34Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not just defund the police. This candidate, democratic socialist, he wants to freeze the rent. He wants city-run grocery stores, social workers to replace the police because that's going to help. He wants $60 billion of debt fund for affordable housing. He wants free buses, no cost for childcare, baby baskets for newborns, and a $30 minimum wage. How can someone vote for this?

• 13:00Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a snake oil salesman. Mm-hmm. He would say and do anything to get elected. Think about this for a moment. He wants to raise 1 percent. He wants to raise tax on 1 percent of New Yorkers, high income earners. As the mayor, you don't have the authority to do that. You know who has the authority to do that? An assemblyman, which he is. He wants to do free buses. He could have done it at Assemblyman.

• 13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 13:27Tom Ellsworth?

  He doesn't understand the power of government and how you must making sure you improve your economy, raise the standard of living. And this is what we've done in the city. And I'm looking forward to being on the campaign trail and showing New Yorkers we can't go backwards.

• 13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, here's what's interesting. Vinny, you're somebody that lived in New York for quite some time. He's running, Mamdani's running as a Democrat.

• 13:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Eric Adams is running as an independent. Chris Sevill is running as a Republican. When you see this happening in New York, one, how do you feel about Mamdani? Do you think his chances are high that he could possibly win? Or do you think Mayor Adams is gonna come back and win?

• 14:04Adam Sosnick?

  Well, first of all, yesterday, well, on Tuesday, we were talking about it. We were like, yeah, he's winning. You know, Cuomo has no point. But just to add a couple of more things that, you know, he's previously called for. Abolishing NYPD, abolishing prisons, abolishing medical bills, abolishing private healthcare insurance, banning all guns. I want you guys, I mean, even though New York is pretty strict. Legalizing sex work, safe injection sites, because that works in San Francisco, right, Tom?

• 14:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, perfect, yeah. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

• 14:34Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, like an ATM for crack. Ending cash bail, decriminalizing drug possession, ending sentencing enhancements, and ending all cooperation with ICE. So, meaning the sanctuary city thing, they want nothing with ICE to have to do with it. I personally, I'm not a fan of it. And, I mean, just the pool of leadership from New York. I know I mentioned on Tuesday, but what the hell is going on? Number one. Number two, all the people that are fleeing, is that, like, you just give up and you bounce? Why don't those people, pal, who have money, donate and help and try to fund and support? The opposition because that this we talked about and we warned people.

• 15:14Adam Sosnick?

  Look at what's happening in England. Look what's happening in France. Every single thing on my feed about Europe is negative. And it's the migrants that are in there that are causing freaking ruckus punching people in the face. You know, robbing people, stabbing people, beating the shit out of kids. Sorry for my language. But and I want to say something bad. And I think it was Mayor Suarez said something along the lines of. Uh, finding a loophole or something where if you're a communist and you're seriously supporting communist. You can't run for public office. Rob, I think Suarez said this, but this is me. This is Vincent O'Shaughnessy's take. And this goes all the way to the top, which includes him and this type of office, Pat. This country was built on Christian values. Am I right, Tom?

• 15:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely.

• 15:54Adam Sosnick?

  The constitution was not written in a vacuum. The founders believe our rights came from God.

• 16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Endowed by our creator.

• 16:01Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. And not the government. So that that's what makes America great. And that's what makes us different. You take God out and you have tyranny and look at communist. Name me a time that communism worked, Tom. Can anybody? Can you? Can anybody do it? Communism and this Marxist crap idea. I and this is me. I think, Tom, that we need to, I don't know how it would happen, but do something where even the president, Pat. Only Christians, and I'm being, I'm being real, can be the president of the United States. This is a Christian nation. Our freedoms came from the cross, not Karl Marx. Okay? Communism rejects God. And if we let this type of stuff in.

• 16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  All gods, by the way.

• 16:40Adam Sosnick?

  All, yeah. If this, and am I being that guy where this is a nation founded on Christian values?

• 16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You're, you're right. But listen, the beautiful thing about people like this is contradictions eventually get exposed. Watch this one here. He says, this virus is laying bare the severe shortcomings of capitalism. And look at the next tweet. It's the final day to buy our very first merch. Wait a minute. You went from hating capitalism to becoming a capitalist. Zero to sixty to capitalist in a couple of seconds. What happened there? You get exposed. You know, you get exposed on, on, on the ideology and philosophies people like this have. Adam, what are your thoughts on this? Well, what's happened in New York City with Mamdani winning? Well, congratulations, New York City. I just want to give you a round of applause.

• 17:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I can't hear him.

• 17:26Adam Sosnick?

  We lost Adam.

• 17:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam dropped out.

• 17:30Tom Ellsworth?

  No? Audio?

• 17:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 17:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, go for it, Adam. Okay, sorry about that. I don't know if what you heard, but. Go back when you said New York City. Congratulations. Yeah, well, congratulations, New York City. Uh, proud of you, happy for you. This is what you wanted. You got it. Um, this is something that, uh, we'll see if it sticks to, uh, Mamdani and when it, uh, comes to November. This is only the primary. That's right. We know, if we know anything, this is only the primary. Do you think he'll win? There's gonna be five more months. Do you think he'll win?

• 18:02Tom Ellsworth?

  So I do think he'll win. And I'll tell you why. Uh, this is not a, people are looking at him as he's the problem. He's not the problem. He's a symptom of a bigger problem. One thing we know for sure is New York is done with the Cuomos. No, no offense. I think Chris Cuomo is doing a great job right now on News Nation. I think, uh, Andrew Cuomo, it's time to retire. There's three reasons that Zoran won, and we should pay attention to the reasons why. Number one, he was the exact opposite of what Cuomo was. He was authentic, he was bold, and he wasn't scared. Cuomo, as funny as it is, he's not establishment, but he's at least viewed as anti-establishment. Um, or a part of the establishment.

• 18:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So, number two, when someone tells you who they are, believe them. He is a progressive Islamist. He's, he co-founded, I believe, the Palestinian Students for Justice. He's a communist. He's an Islamist. Respect. That's who he is. Believe him. He started a grassroots, youthful, diverse, uh, movement in New York City, and this is who the modern Democratic Party is. This is why I left the Democratic Party. I'm from Miami. You don't see anything like this in Miami. You see someone like this, like Mayor Suarez in Miami. There's zero percent chance in Miami where Cubans came to flee communism and socialism. We'd never elect anybody like this. This is why you see all the memes about people basically moving to Miami. What's the biggest reason they're moving to Miami?

• 19:30Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not the... Christianity, it's not the Islamism, it's not the Judaism, it's not religion. Follow the money. Affordability crisis in New York is the number one in the country. As far as what you're paying, as far as percentage of your income towards housing. That's why he's using all the typical tricks that a socialist and a communist uses. Lowering the cost of rent, rent freezes, free buses, free transportation, free childcare, $30 minimum wage, free groceries, basically. Where have I heard this before? We'll see if Eric Adams can mount something, but unless he becomes authentic and learns how to get with the youth, Mamdani might be the newest mayor of New York City.

• 20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so here's what he had to say. Here's what he had to say on the victory speech. Go ahead, Rob.

• 20:16Adam Sosnick?

  One, because New Yorkers have stood up for a city they can afford. A city where they can do more than just struggle. And it's where the mayor will use their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism, to stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors.

• 20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know why I'm screaming.

• 20:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Anchorman? Is that what it is? Do we keep playing it, Rob? I'm just trying to like, he says he's fighting Trump's fascism, right?

• 20:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 20:45Adam Sosnick?

  Fascism, to stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors.

• 20:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is what Tom Homan had to say about this, because you know how he went up and screaming about the fact that, hey, you can't, this is not fair what you're doing to immigrants. This is Tom Homan's response. Go for it.

• 21:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Mayor candidate, he hadn't won yet, but he won the Democratic primary, Zorain Mamdani. So he's saying, I mean, this is incredible. He's vowed to kick the, quote, fascist ICE out of New York City, okay? So, how do you intend to deal with that? Because I would guess there are going to be a lot of criminals and Iranian cells and whatnot in New York City. The job's not done there. What do you say to this guy? Good luck with that.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  The law trumps him every, every, every, every day, every hour, every minute. We're going to be in New York City. Matter of fact, because this is a sanctuary city, President Trump made a clear week and a half ago. We're going, we're going double down and triple down on sanctuary cities. If we can't arrest a bad guy in a county jail, one agent arresting one bad guy, they release him in the streets like New York does every day, we gotta send a whole team to look for this, this guy. And not only that, we're going to send additional teams to look for all the people they arrest. We're going to concentrate in sanctuary cities because we know they're releasing public safety threats and national security threats back to the street. So we know we got a problem there. So we know how that problem in Florida where most sheriffs work for us. So we're going to double up and triple up on New York. And not only are we going to send more agents to the neighborhood, we're going to increase worksite enforcement tenfold.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  If we can't arrest them in the jail, you're going to force them to the neighborhood, then we'll find them in the neighborhood.

• 22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So by the way, New Yorkers who are possibly thinking about staying, they're staying because of guys like this. They're relying on the federal government to do their part. Tom, Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to chat GPT and time in, how many Muslim mayors have we had in America? How many Muslim mayors? I believe the number is six when I looked at it yesterday, but it could be three and three. It'll break it down for you. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? Zoom in a little bit. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? Uh, breakdown. Okay. So that one is what Mayor Cambridge, Massachusetts. Okay. Four years. Shadav Jeffarno is a Montgomery township. Okay. Uh, D Cusp, where's that Portland? Uh, is that Portland, Maryland? No, that's where M E. Portland, Maine.

• 22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Portland, Maine. And then Nadia Mohammed is St. Louis Park, Minnesota. That's a lot of Minnesota. Amir Omar Richardson, Texas. Interesting. First Muslim. So five. In that region. And then six, Mamdani, if he wins, right? So five. So five so far, and of which of the five, three are from Minnesota. If this goes the way it does, Tom.

• 23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Say he wins. Is it really that bad of a thing? Is it really gonna get that nasty? Is it really an overreaction? Oh my god, everyone's gonna move to Florida, people are gonna leave, it's gonna be this. Is it really that bad of a thing in New York, or is it just an overreaction? I don't think it's an overreaction. We just saw one of the largest, most influential realtors in New York saying, "I'm getting phone calls now to stop a deal." And a deal in New York City is a million, $2 million deal on the low end for, you know, condos and nice apartments and things like that. And now you're talking about this? I look at it this way. There is a great contradiction that happened in New York City. They had a large rally, one of the larger rallies.

• 24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  No authoritarianism, no authoritarianism, no kings. But if you listen to this guy and you listen to everything, you take the guns away from the citizens, and by the way, there was a shooting at a church, one person tragically killed, but then a highly trained, licensed citizen security guard takes out the threat. Not a multi-person shooting, one person, God rest her soul, and the shooter neutralized. But now you're gonna take guns away from the citizens, you're gonna defund the police, and you're gonna do all the rest of these things, make it free. And when that devolves, that will devolve very, very quickly. And when it devolves, guess what? The people can't rise up because the people are not armed just to protect their homes. And you know what you get? You get an authoritarian Muslim that's the mayor of your city. This is not an overreaction.

• 24:47Patrick Bet-David?

  There are very real things that are happening right now. It's a populist thing. If he tries to get the $30 minimum wage through, Eric Adams was on a morning show on Fox talking about things, hey, he needs the assemblyman to help him. And he is an assemblyman. And so why couldn't he get all this done now? So as mayor of New York, you know, this is not an overreaction. This is the tip of an iceberg. This could head toward Dearborn very, very, very quickly. And I just ask New Yorkers, those of you that voted for him, look down the list of things and ask yourself very honestly, where do you think the outcome is at? What do you think the end is at? Does the mayor become a Muslim authoritarian figure? I think so. But you just marched in the streets over the past weekend and said, "No authoritarianism."

• 25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is it? By the way, you know what's interesting about this, Tom? I posted something on Twitter and I said, "New York may have gotten more conservative in the 2024 election, but the Democratic Party moved further left." I think you're Hundred percent. They moved further left. So as left as they were, they didn't decide to come to the center. Let's go a little bit more to the center. They're like, no, let's go a little bit more to the left. Let's go turn this thing into Detroit. Let's go turn this thing into Dearborn. And, and you know, you know what's the crazy thing about businessmen that live in your community? Who, who, who are the first people that are hated? Those who make money, those who are successful in every space.

• 26:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are the people that always get hated the most. In the family, who is the most hated person? Probably the guy with the most money or the gal with the most money. It's always the same thing. People can't stand success because they're envious of it until eventually what happens? Those people say, you know what? You don't appreciate us? No problem. We'll leave to a different place. Ken Griffin, I was at an event in St. Regis with a bunch of wealthy people that are billionaires. And the entire eight hour meeting, forty percent of the meeting, everyone brought up Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin left Chicago, Ken Griffin left Chicago, Ken Griffin left Chicago, Ken Griffin, we're gonna miss Ken Griffin. But you know what? We're gonna recover from Ken Griffin. It's like the entire meeting was about Ken Griffin. Okay. So now all these people that you guys hate in New York, that are the business owners, the builders, the billionaires.

• 27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think they have a hundred other places to go to? It's as if every person that voted for Maldonin in New York needs to go out there and buy the book Atlas Shrugged and just read it. Go read the book and read the history of what happens when you push these types of guys out. There's plenty of places for them to go to. But again, we'll see what happened by November between now and then. Maybe Eric Adams is gonna come out and since they're both kind of Democratic Party, but he went to the independent side. Who knows if an independent can win in New York? We'll find out. Let's go to the next story. Iran, Israel, did the nuclear facilities really get hit? Did they not get hit? You hear stories about the fact that.

• 27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Those places didn't get hit. There is CNN anchor saying certain things. There's Joy Reid saying certain things here. Joy Reid, I'll start off with that one first. Rob, can you tell me what page Joy Reid is? Joy Reid is... You have to read here this one, folks. Page 16. Page 16, okay. Joy Reid, let's start the clip from here, by the way. Joy Reid suggests Iran having nuclear weapon might make Middle East calmer. Can you imagine that? Iran having nuclear weapon might make the Middle East calmer. By the way, there are people that agree with her. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip.

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• 29:16Speaker 06

  What do you think we'll see first? World War III or nuclear war? I don't think we'll ever see nuclear war in our lifetime, but I do think we'll see a World War III. And the reason you won't see nuclear war in our lifetime is that everyone who would deem to threaten global annihilation has nukes. Mutually assured destruction? Mutually assured destruction. And I think what would, in a weird way, make the Middle East... You know how they say the most polite society in the country is Texas? Because everybody's packing? Everybody got guns. That's right. You know, maybe the Middle East would be calmer if there weren't just... I mean, what... I spoke yesterday to a Navy veteran who is... Who used to fly those bombers that they used to drop the bunker, but the 30,000 pound bombs?

• 29:59Speaker 06

  And he was telling me, he said, "Don't be... Don't get it twisted." This war is not about a real threat that Iran posed to anyone. They don't have nukes and they didn't have nukes and they weren't making nukes. This is about a geopolitical push, the same way it was when we went after Mossadegh. To make it, we would rather Iran with a dictator who's a puppet than a free Iran who could defy us and take the oil we feel entitled to. In this case, Israel wants to be the hegemon of the region. They want to be the United States, the big boy in the block and have no competitors. And their biggest two potential competitors are Saudi Arabia and Iran. And so the idea here is to make them the unquestioned superpower in-

• 30:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause that right there. So she thinks it'll be safer if Iran has a nuclear weapon. Now, this whole story that you're hearing about was prompted after reporters came out from CNN, I believe New York Times, that said, "U.S. strikes did not destroy Iran's nuclear program." White House rages after top-secret doc is leaked as Israel and Iran claim victory. Rob, if you have this clip, go for it. Play this clip here.

• 31:07Tom Ellsworth?

  ... in the American public have ever seen. And that CNN story does not change the facts. There was a total and complete obliteration of Iran's nuclear facilities. And because of the president's strike, because of our, the precision of our United States military in this perfectly executed mission, Iran no longer has the capability to produce a nuclear weapon as imminently as they did prior to the strike. The American people and the world should be grateful for that. And it's disgusting that CNN and the New York Times are disparaging not just the president, but our brave men and women who have helped conduct this highly successful operation. What kind of consequence could the leak have faced?

• 31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Walks up, okay. Pete Hexit then responds this morning. He does a press conference to address it and break down the fact that these facilities were hit, and here's what he had to say. Go forward, Rob.

• 31:53Adam Sosnick?

  Fake news CNN, MSNBC, or the New York Times, there's been fawning coverage of a preliminary-

• 32:03Adam Sosnick?

  ...assessment. I've had a chance to read it. Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from DIA. I'm looking at it right now. Again, it was preliminary a day and a half after the actual strike. When it admits itself in writing that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary data to make such an assessment, it's preliminary. It points out that it's not been coordinated with the intelligence community at all. There's low confidence in this particular report. It says in the report, there are gaps in the information. It says in the report, multiple linchpin assumptions are what this assessment... A linchpin assumption, you know what that is? That means your entire premise

• 32:44Adam Sosnick?

  is predicated on a linchpin. If you're wrong, everything else is wrong. And yet, still, this report acknowledges it's likely severe damage. Again, this is preliminary, but leaked because someone had an agenda to try to muddy the waters and make it look like this historic strike wasn't successful. I'm going to get to the chairman in a moment because he's going to lay out the particulars for you, based on his professional military experience. But here's what other folks are saying. The DIA that put that report out says this is a preliminary, low-confidence report and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes available. How about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission? "The devastating

• 33:24Adam Sosnick?

  US strikes on Fordo destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable." Have any of these quotes made their way into the New York Times or the Washington Post? Nope. MSNBC? CNN? Any of these quotes? How about this one? This is a new one, from the UN, the United Nations. No friend of the United States, or certainly Israel often. Here's the head of the UN Atomic Energy Agency this morning, Rafael Grossi. "US and Israeli strikes caused enormous..." ...damage to Iran's nuclear sites. Don't take my word for it. How about the IDF's chief of staff? I can say here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the nuclear program, setting it back by years.

• 34:09Adam Sosnick?

  I repeat, years. The Iranian foreign minister, the spokesman, our nuclear installations have been badly damaged, that's for sure. I'm sure that's an understatement. John Radcliffe, the director of the CIA, putting out a statement just last night, CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged by recent targeted strikes. This includes new intelligence from a historically reliable, very different than preliminary assessment.

• 34:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Okay. Tom, he's given his argument to say that we did destroy the facilities. It's gonna take him years to recover. Iran, I'm gonna show an article from this morning, this is what President Trump had to say, fake news CNN, together with the following failing New York Times have teamed up in an attempt to demean one of the most successful military strikes in history. The nuclear sites in Iran are completely destroyed, both the Times and the CNN are getting slammed by the public. What do you think really happened? Do we really know whether massive damage was done or not?

• 35:11Speaker 06

  I think, well, first of all, Heggsis wasn't giving his opinion. He was reading the opinion of multiple global leaders whose business is to be in the know and to make these statements and these observations, number one.

• 35:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 35:26Speaker 06

  And number two, you've got certainty coming from, okay, the IDF, okay, you could say the IDF is biased, sure, that it's be their business to spin it one way. But when Iran's foreign minister and others are talking about this, it seems to indicate that there was damage done, but everybody also agrees that it's gonna take weeks of damage assessment to see, we have satellite photos, we're gonna watch trucks, we're gonna see what's going on there, to see what is happening on the ground and the true ground response. All it takes is the satellite images and you'll watch, do supplies come and go? Do the workers come in and go out the way they were? How many of them? There's gonna be all sorts of assessments.

• 36:07Adam Sosnick?

  So it is correct that it is early to make the assessment. And it's also correct that Hexis didn't go up there and just do some fawning denial. He called out the media for grabbing one little part of it, running with it because they want to make the president look bad. And then he starts quoting people around the world. That made me feel pretty reasonable about this. So if we, if we got half the job done, or we got a quarter of the job done. You know, you know what still is true?

• 36:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 36:35Adam Sosnick?

  We flew planes into their airspace. They couldn't do shit about it and we flew home unharmed.

• 36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The outcome though, was a mission accomplished? That's the question. That's what a lot of people are asking about because this is what Khamenei had to say.

• 36:46Adam Sosnick?

  I don't, I don't think we know.

• 36:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 36:48Adam Sosnick?

  But there's a lot of people on the world stage that are saying that.

• 36:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally get it.

• 36:52Adam Sosnick?

  There's more chance that it did.

• 36:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I got you Tom, this is what Khamenei is saying this morning. Iranian Supreme Leader crawls out of bunker to ludicrously claim victory over Israel. Tehran's delivered a hand slap to America's face. Go a little bit lower if you could Rob. Okay, Iran's humiliated Supreme Leader Ayatollah.

• 37:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Khamenei came out of hiding Thursday to ludicrously claim victory over Israel. Having delivered a hand slap to America's face during the first address since the total obliteration of his nuclear weapon facilities. Khamenei said he was victorious in the 12 day war. Despite losing years of progress on his nuclear programs. Including more of a dozen of his leading scientists being killed and obliteration of three nuclear enrichment sites. The Islamic Republic was victorious and in retaliation delivered a hand slap to America's face. Khamenei said Thursday, go a little bit lower Rob. And, uh, uh, yeah. The head of the Islamic regime has been hiding since Israel launched Operation Rising Lion on June 13th fearing an assassination attempt by the Jewish, Jewish state. Israel had launched hundreds of missiles around Tehran.

• 37:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Along with covert operation that destroyed a ground to air and ground to ground defense system. And Khamenei addresses comes five days after Trump ordered the seven B2 bombers to drop bunker busters bombs on the underground for do nuclear sites as nuclear capable submarines launch cruise missiles at two other sites Natanz and Esfahan US hit nuclear sites but could not achieve much Khamenei said in televised speech before calling out Trump US President Trump needed to do showmanship okay so now he's poking go a little bit lower needed to do a little bit of showmanship go a little bit lower with all that commotion and all those claims the Zionist regime

• 38:34Patrick Bet-David?

  was practically knocked out and crushed under the blows of the Islamic Republic the isolated Iran leader statements are the first since ceasefire was agreed upon by his nation in Israel Adam your thoughts on this

• 38:47Tom Ellsworth?

  so there's a lot to unpack here so let me just go one by one and I'll go very quickly at the cornerstone of everything that's going on whether it's Joy Reid whether it's what's happening in New York whether it's even the Ayatollah everything is doing an exact opposite of what Trump stands for so if you're trying to understand the mindset of the Democrat these these days or the socialists the progressives all you have to do is understand Newton's theory which is for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction oh so Trump is pro Israel now all of a sudden we're pro Iran we're pro Palestinian Trump is America first well we're America last Trump has closed the borders let's open the borders let's have a globalist mindset

• 39:29Tom Ellsworth?

  let's globalize the Antifatah Trump is using ICE we hate ICE that's all it is show me a position Trump stands for that's exactly what the Democrats or the globalists are using as their platform to go against the Trump Trump could cure cancer and they would be cheering why did he eliminate cancer

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He caused 17,000 jobs yeah exactly

• 39:52Tom Ellsworth?

  What's that?

• 39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah if he cured cancer they would say Trump caused the loss of 17,000 jobs they would find a way to take the you know 20% position on it

• 40:01Tom Ellsworth?

  That's all it is so if you understand that that whatever Trump stands for they're gonna take the opposite position that at least gives you a little insight to their mindset number two this is where this moron Joy Reid who still somehow gets an opportunity to talk what she doesn't understand I say this all the time the Middle East is

• 40:19Adam Sosnick?

  Not the Midwest. She thinks in her peanut sized brain with her blonde wig that she understands jihadist mentality. You don't. The Middle East is not the Midwest. You're assuming, you're basically living your life based on the premise that they have the exact same values and principles that we have in the West. They don't. They have jihadist tendencies and jihadist ideology. This is a clash of civilization and a clash of culture. Understand that. So when Trump is pro-Israel, of course, Joy Reid takes the pro-Iran position. And naturally she starts deducing, well, yeah, maybe it'd be great if they had nuclear weapons. Really? Because that worked out really well in North Korea versus South Korea, right?

• 41:04Adam Sosnick?

  Take a look at those images at night. So she's basically operating on the premise that they have the same mindset as us. No. Israel loves life. United States loves life. Jihadists worship death. In Judaism, if we're gonna give cheers, like in Italian, what do you say if you're gonna have a cheers? You're gonna say, hey, what do you say? Salud. In Judaism, you say this. You say, "L'chaim," to life. Jihadists worship death. That's what you don't understand. The cornerstone of their mindset is martyrdom, jihad, paradise, 72 virgins, pay for slay, human shields. It's a completely different ideology. So now you're operating on the premise that you want to give them nukes?

• 41:49Adam Sosnick?

  It makes zero sense and Israel, who is basically our proxy in the region, will never stand for that.

• 41:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Vinny.

• 41:57Adam Sosnick?

  Well, first, I want to say that the bigger problem with the whole situation is that there are still people inside the Trump administration, which I know was gonna be there, that are still trying to undermine the administration, okay? The deep state is still real. You have people inside that the FBI right now is investigating. They're gonna try to find out who's leaking this information, which is inaccurate and it's jumping the gun, no pun intended. Because when they're saying, you know, there's weeks, they still have to find out for weeks what's happening. Yes, we have reports that there were satellite imagery of a bunch of trucks Tommy coming up may possibly taking out uranium which one thing I'm gonna criticize is like the the heads up Pat the warning the Trump the the tweeting the everything if you give an enemy such a heads up like that

• 42:42Adam Sosnick?

  they're gonna take shit out of the ground they're gonna move out of there and I'll just I did a little bit of research Pat the the bomb that we use the 30,000 pound bomb how how deep do you guys think it goes into the ground how deep how many feet

• 42:55Patrick Bet-David?

  90 meters so whatever 90 meters this if 2 meters is 6 feet 270 feet

• 43:00Adam Sosnick?

  okay so okay great to average 200 and if it's 60 plus feet for reinforced uh concrete the Fordo fuel enrichment plant was 250 to 300 feet deep okay even if we're not hitting the actual site itself everything else is destroyed how you the odds of you even

• 43:18Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah but Iran's known for having strong concrete

• 43:20Adam Sosnick?

  100%

• 43:21Patrick Bet-David?

  opposition is saying the fact that because Iran has the best concrete it's not gonna make it all the way down to the facilities where they're having the uranium and then you're you're hearing the stories about how they moved 400 uh uh kilos kilos of uranium to a completely different facility so nothing got hit

• 43:37Adam Sosnick?

  that's and that's

• 43:38Patrick Bet-David?

  that's what some people are saying

• 43:39Adam Sosnick?

  and and that's why we we have to give them a little bit of time especially when it comes to the assessment of weeks to find out and I get it I I know what people are gonna say well you can't trust the government with all the reports and everything like that but I'm I'm just saying from that point of view they disrupted it if if it was as BB and all them said they were weeks away from making a nuclear weapon this is at least slowed them down okay uh I mean the last thing you're gonna have to do is what send ground troops hopefully not American to go and find out now the site because now you can't just satellite to see what's happening down there you have to send boots on the ground to see what's happening down there at least out of this whole thing there was the most minimal civilian casualties I mean if you want to count anybody that's down there any nuclear

• 44:20Adam Sosnick?

  people that are working on a nuke to frickin uh attack America but I think it's gonna take a couple of weeks to find out if it's actually real and if they still have if they moved anything from the site

• 44:29Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah and then by the way this leads to President Trump who's being asked about regime change and this is what he had to say about the fact that he doesn't want regime change watch this here do you want to see regime change in Iran? well if there was there was but no I don't want it I'd like to see everything calm down as quickly as possible regime change takes chaos and ideally we don't want to see some much chaos, so we'll see how it does. You know, the Iranians are very good traders, very good business people. And they got a lot of oil, they should, they should be fine, they, they should be able to rebuild and do a good job. They're never gonna have nuclear, but other than that, they should do a great job. Yeah, so the, the challenge then becomes, if you don't open up, yesterday I put a tweet out

• 45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  at 1:30 in the morning, or 1 o'clock in the morning, I don't know what time it was, I'm up there just going through a bunch of different things and uh, uh, uh, you know, preparing for today, today happens to be Tom's oldest daughter's birthday, shout out to Bailey, happy birthday Bailey, it happens to be my youngest daughter's birthday, Brooke, and it happens to be our anniversary today, my wife and I, 16 years, so happy birthday Bailey, happy birthday Brooke. Brooklyn, and happy anniversary Jennifer, babe. Congrats Jen. So, last night, 1 o'clock, I'm going through it, and you're talking about regime change and all this stuff that's taking place, right? And the president said what he said there, about the fact that he doesn't want chaos. So, who doesn't want chaos? He doesn't want chaos? He doesn't want regime change? Or the Iranian people don't want regime change?

• 45:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What did he say? I think he doesn't want chaos. He doesn't want, of course he doesn't want it. But what do Iranians want? They want change, they don't want chaos, they want change. I put this up last night because a guy said something about me, can you go back there, Rob, I want to put, put the tweet right before the one that I put up, I just want to call this out. Cause I'm, if, if, if this, the Iranian romanticizers, put that up there so I can read that. Patrick with his political literacy is at the level of Wikipedia, he has no national political agendas, other than increasing his audience and securing sponsors. Therefore, when he passionately slams leadership capacity of Prince Reza Pahlavi, it is undoubtedly driven by business interests. Now, here's what this guy, and I don't blame him for, you know, not knowing what he's talking about, my response to him was, I don't know who you are,

• 46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I really don't want to open my mouth about who for decades used their last name to collect money from innocent Iranians. But if the pressure comes, I will gladly open my mouth, I will bring receipts soon if these lies continue about us doing it for money. Uh, uh, whether it's, I'm taking one minute, I'm taking money from Israel, the next minute is I'm taking, I'm Mossad, the next minute is I'm Iranian, the next minute is I'm Now yeah, the next minute is I'm pro Reza Pahlavi monarchy coming back. The next minute, we're taking money for sponsorship. And what's funny is we don't take money from any sponsorship. This is why we sell our stuff. We're proud capitalists. By the way, what is his name, Majid? Here's what we'd like to see happen. Your country right now only has 350 billion dollars in GDP.

• 47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  We'd like to find a way to 7X that so Iranians can make some money. Because capitalism can solve a lot of problems in Iran. So I wrote this and I said Iran deserves better leadership. There's so much untapped potential in Iran. Here are a few things to consider. A resource-rich nation with a starved economy. How does a country with ranked 5th in natural resources? Population of 92 million, talented people only produce 400. That's less than Walmart, Amazon and Aramco produce per year. And by the way, in Apple is 390 billion. So Apple almost is bigger than Iran's GDP. So Iran, an entire country, produces less than a single corporation. How is it possible? The answer, big. The current regime is suffocating the nation's potential. With the right leadership, the economy can explode to 2 trillion dollars in no time unlocking unprecedented prosperity for its people. Two, geopolitical goldmine.

• 48:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran is one of the most strategically located nations on earth. Whether you're in China, Russia, Europe, Africa or Middle East, you have to go through Iran. Now imagine if Iran were wide open for business. Three, a sleeping giant for global tourism. In the 70s, it was one of the global destinations drawn nearly a million tourists per year, including celebrities, business elites and world leaders. It offers stunning mountains, rich ancient history, world-class museums, incredible cuisine, music, culture and yes, some of the most beautiful women in the world. Iranian women, man, they're beautiful. Iran has everything except for freedom. Iran doesn't need a monarchy or a theocracy. That's not popular for a lot of people that are fans of Reza Pahlavi, that they want him to bring back the monarchy. You don't need a theocracy, you don't need a monarchy.

• 48:52Patrick Bet-David?

  My opinion, you can trash this and tear it apart. This is my opinion. The concept that US had the no kings protest, they should do that in Iran, is more relevant to Iran than anywhere else. Iran needs to scrap its current structure and start fresh like a startup. Bring together modern founding fathers to draft a new constitution based on liberty, equality and democracy. elections guaranteed freedom for everyone partnered with the west is the fastest way to rebuild you can't chant that to America one day negotiate with us next day next day that's not diplomacy that's delusion if Iran builds bridges not walls business will flood in a Iran a free Iran could be the key to peace in the Middle East that's simple only question is who's

• 49:33Patrick Bet-David?

  gonna rise up so when I put that up there you see this and you'll see oh my God how dare you do this I can't the romanticizers of Alavi and David you don't want to him on he's gonna be like his father he's not his father he's a sweet man nice man smart man wants to make his mom happy wants to make his dad proud that is no longer here but he's not gonna get the job done as a person and some will let him just get in and then we'll figure all the rest out no a person that's an influencer is not gonna sit there and say oh yeah yeah let's just do that let's get in and then we'll get the job done you know who said that Nancy Pelosi said well we have to pass it so we see what's in the bill that's what we gotta do we'll find out what's in it afterwards

• 50:16Patrick Bet-David?

  so so to me while this is going on a lot of Iranians are seeing is someone gonna close this out by the way if again Iranians if again if again this is the closest you've been in forty six years if again this doesn't succeed who are you blaming go ahead this is the closest you've been in forty six years if this doesn't happen again whose fault is it you're not gonna put it on Pat Levy who are you gonna put it on cuz that's your face go ahead put it on somebody who will you put it on the Indiana Pacers lost who do you put it on well injuries fair game seven Halliburton brought it all the way to the top Minnesota was supposed to go to the championship and become the Michael Jordan right this what's his name Anthony Edwards what happened oh it's

• 50:59Patrick Bet-David?

  not his fault it's not his fault oh he's a seasoned player I got you let's not put the responsibility on anybody this is the close by the way he had a video that he posted yesterday Rob if you can go to his uh X account and and again sweet man nice man smart man capable man of being someone that can help out with history but this is what he posted yesterday if you can go a little bit lower there was a bit right there and and and watch this one year open it up let's watch this go ahead

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• 52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  This is our Berlin Wall moment. But like all moments of great change, it comes fraught with danger. We stand at a crossroads. One road leads to bloodshed and chaos. The other to a peaceful and democratic transition. The difference in these two roads depends on one factor. And one factor alone, whether the current regime in Iran is allowed to survive. Watch this. If the West throws the regime a lifeline, there will be more bloodshed and chaos.

• 53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So he gives a message like that, which is to say, this is the closest they've been. He needs US's help to get the job done. Great. Now, would you watch that? Does that sound like somebody that is intimidating? That's someone that's gonna get the job done?

• 53:21Adam Sosnick?

  Absolutely not.

• 53:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No. It sounds like somebody that has the history, that can play a very good role. I had a call with somebody yesterday. You know what the entire conversation was about for an hour? The conversation was about, this is one of the guys I love to work with. And the deal he struggles with, this is why I have so much respect for Tom. What he struggles with is the following, Vinnie. He wants to be a number one.

• 53:41Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 53:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But he really is a number four.

• 53:45Adam Sosnick?

  But he has ambition to be the number one.

• 53:46Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's not a number one.

• 53:48Adam Sosnick?

  Does he want?

• 53:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he does not, because the pressures of number one, not everybody wants. It sucks, because all the attacks come to you and all the pressure comes to you. Some people simply do better being two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And by the way, they shine more as a two, three, four than they do as a one. Paul George said, "I was never, I was never a number one to win a championship." My record says it. "If I was a one, I would have won a championship. I didn't win it." He didn't win as a one. He needed to be a two or three. This guy is a very good two, three, four, but not as a one. To get the job done Iranians, you're gonna keep coming at me and posting stuff, and eventually I'm gonna really start saying stuff.

• 54:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And my challenge to all of you guys is right now, here's what I'm, here's what I'm tempted to do, Vinny Tom. And I haven't even told you guys this. I'm tempted to see about holding a leadership meeting for Iranians, some of the smartest, most influential Iranians, at our office, at the hangar.

• 54:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Private, no cameras, nothing, everybody has to put their phones in. Security, we come in, nobody has anything, we just sit there and we talk. Of what some of their ideas are. I think to identify who that person's going, I'm at that point. I have too many things going on that the chance of me doing this is less than 5%. But that thought crossed my mind. Right now, we got all these things, we're doing family, kids, businesses, all these other things. But it's at that point, because if you're not gonna hold a meeting to rally and unify everybody so we can get on the same page and identify where we're going, what the hell are we doing? And if you can't hold the meeting, it's because you don't carry that kind of weight anymore. If, if you call a meeting and you don't carry the weight of people coming, what happened there? Maybe you lost it, maybe you're not the guy. Maybe you're not the person.

• 55:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's a very interesting season right now, so I get it for US and Trump, what he's saying. But Iranians are fed up and they want that $350 billion of GDP to turn into $2 trillion. That opens up opportunities, places you live, schools your kids go to. Anyways, we'll see what's gonna happen with Iran. If, Adam, go ahead.

• 55:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I, I encourage PBD to have that meeting, and if you're gonna do, do that meeting, it needs to happen immediately. Because there's something called Carpe Diem, and that sees the day. Here's the biggest challenge that the Iranian people are gonna face. Right now, this story is... The number one story in the world. You know what's gonna happen? In a week, in two weeks, it's gonna be yesterday's news. And everyone's gonna forget about the people of Iran. You bring up a great point here. Is this what Trump wants? Does Trump wanna get out of this mess, this conundrum of the Middle East? You bet he does. He wants to set his sights on China. And that's what the America First Agenda really wants to focus on, not Middle East quagmires. But what do the Iranian people want? The Iranian people wanna be free. Now's the time.

• 56:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm telling you right now. If this doesn't happen in the next few weeks, this ain't happening. PBD is absolutely right. This is the closest the Iranian people have been to being free in 46 years. And my thoughts are unless they take advantage and seize the day in CARPDM, they're never gonna have freedom ever again. So who benefits from everything that just happened in Iran? Well, Israel definitely benefits, cuz they've eliminated a nuclear Holocaust. USA benefits because they've eliminated a potential threat that's caused chaos all around the world. The world benefits. We don't need to have a nuclear Iran despite what the moron Reed has to say. But you know who definitely doesn't benefit if this thing does not work out in their favor? The actual Iranian people, cuz you're starting to see stories

• 57:25Tom Ellsworth?

  that the Iranian regime is starting to take it out on the people who have been cheering and protesting against the regime. So this is a great case for the Second Amendment, by the way. Because that doesn't exist in Iran, so I don't even know how they're gonna rise up. PBD, last point, you bring up a great point. The GDP of Iran is set to soar. I don't know if we can have time to play a clip, but there's an American Iranian businessman who talks about the economic dynamism that could potentially take place in Iran if they basically take the stranglehold of the noose that is around their neck away from the Ayatollah. He talks about catching up to the UAE, Qatar, and in Saudi, not in 46 years, in basically five to seven years. So the Iranian people wanna be free, they're a great people.

• 58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Ingenuity, smart, they're just being held hostage by the Ayatollah. Yeah. And unless they take advantage of it. You know what's interesting with what you're saying here? Sure. Here's what's interesting with what you're saying here. Guess who wants those sanctions to remain on Iran?

• 58:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess who wants Khamenei to keep saying death upon America? Guess who wants Khamenei to keep making fun of Trump? Guess who wants Iran and US's relationship to continue to be bad? Guess who wants that? Qatar, Saudi, Venezuela, everybody else that doesn't want another competitor in the oil market. That's right. That's exactly who also benefits from it. So, so, so the, the, what do you call it? The connect the dots game, like if you go play American gangster where he's like, you know, Russell Crowe sitting there saying, oh my God, it's Frank Lucas. That's really the person behind Blue Magic. If you connect the dots, there are a lot of people behind closed doors that want the sanctions to remain that don't want it to open up because they're going to take some business away from them.

• 59:12Patrick Bet-David?

  They don't want that competition. These sanctions are perfect to not have any competition. So if Iran does become free, does Saudi fully want that? Do they? Maybe? Does Qatar really want to lose that business? Do, do they really, really want to have Iran that's got influence over Strait of Hormuz? A fifth of the oil supply that moves from, do they really want that place to be free? There's a part of it where it's kind of like, you know how some people are like, man, I hate the fact that this is going on to New York. And the same people that hate the fact that what's going on in New York right now, that's about to become the next Dearborn London and next, you know, Detroit. Their same ones are like, I hope it happens. Because I just want them to realize what they voted for. I hope it happens.

• 59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's like this, this thing that's like, you know, and there's a group of people that are like, that are like, I hope it happens. They're like, I hope they figure it out because I don't want these crazy people from New York to come to Florida and flip the state. I don't want you to come to Florida. Stay in New York. I hope it doesn't happen. So these Saudi Qatar states are like, yeah, we want it to be peaceful. We don't want them to have nuclear weapon. But can we kind of keep the sanctions on them? So we keep getting this business that we're making build. This is the part. So to get the job done, someone's got to be able to rally this whole thing to make it happen. But anyways, we will see what's going to happen. We'll continue. I'm going to get to the next topic here, Daddy. Daddy, Trump was called daddy and not by his wife. Somebody called Trump daddy. And this is NATO. And he's being asked this question.

• 1:00:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And the president is laughing, okay? I don't think this is the one drop. Oh, this is where he calls him daddy. And then it goes to the next one. Watch this clip here, folks. Go for it.

• 1:00:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, we may do papers on it. Marco may go in and do papers. I don't even know if you need them. They're not going to be fighting each other. They've had it. They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't stop them. Let them fight for about two, three minutes. Then it's easier to stop them.

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language.

• 1:01:07Tom Ellsworth?

  You have to use strong language. Every once in a while, you have to use a certain word.

• 1:01:11Speaker 02

  I think we have to join the house.

• 1:01:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Daddy. It wasn't called in the daddy like the daddy. Like, it's not like color daddy or call Trump daddy. But it was daddy's got to get it done. But watch this here. This is such a funny moment. And the best part about this clip is. Try to watch Marco Rubio trying to keep a straight face. Watch this, folks. Go ahead. Focus on Marco Rubio.

• 1:01:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Mark Rutte, the NATO chief, who is your friend. He called you daddy earlier. Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?

• 1:01:43Speaker 00

  No, he likes me. I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, okay?

• 1:01:49Tom Ellsworth?

  But do you?

• 1:01:49Speaker 00

  He did. He did it very affectionately. Daddy, you're my daddy.

• 1:01:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you regard your NATO allies, though, as kind of like children? And they're obviously listening to you and they're spending more. And you're obviously appreciative of that. But do you hope that actually they're going to be able to defend themselves? Defend Europe on their own without?

• 1:02:09Speaker 00

  I think they need help a little bit at the beginning.

• 1:02:11Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. So that's that part about the daddy conversation of going back and forward, which is kind of interesting to watch. What's this one, Rob?

• 1:02:19Speaker 06

  So this is Mark Rutte, NATO National Security Advisor, who called Trump daddy in the first place. And here he is explaining why he does believe that Trump deserves the daddy title.

• 1:02:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:02:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Deborah Hayes from Sky News. Hello. The language that you have used when talking to Donald Trump has been notable because of its flattery. Today, you called him daddy. You sent a text message to him that was gushing with praise. Is this the way that you feel you have to act when doing business with the US president through flattery and praise? Isn't it a bit demeaning? And doesn't it make you look weak? No, I don't think so. I think it's a bit of a question of taste, but I think he's a good friend. And when he is doing stuff which is forcing us to, for example, when it comes to making more investments, would you ever think that this would be the result of this

• 1:03:14Tom Ellsworth?

  summit if he would not have been elected president? Do you really think that seven or eight countries who said, yeah, somewhere in the 2030s, we might meet the 2%, we've now all decided in the last four or five months to get to 2%?

• 1:03:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank God.

• 1:03:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Doesn't he deserve some praise?

• 1:03:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank God.

• 1:03:29Tom Ellsworth?

  And when it comes to Iran, the fact that he took this decisive action, very targeted, to make sure that Iran would not be able to get his hands on a nuclear capability? I think he deserves all the praise.

• 1:03:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you pause that? How big of a deal is this, Tom? That that he's getting it? Just a few years ago, he's calling that neighbor, he's like, what's the big deal? Leave him alone. And I'm like, oh shit, we're paying more. They're not paying. Why are we paying it? Why should we worry about? They're your neighbors. How big of a deal is this? That even now they're flipping, leaders are defending Trump?

• 1:04:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think there's two key angles here. One, there is a demonstrative change that is happening in the way that the foreign leaders and people are responding to Trump. It is different than it was 60 days ago. It's especially different than what it was 14 days ago, and very, very different from when he first stepped in, was talking about tariffs, everybody around the world. This crazy person is talking about tariffs.

• 1:04:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:23Tom Ellsworth?

  There has been a big change in that. The second line is, look at the bias of Sky News. That's from the UK. Look at her bias. Oh, you're calling them your children. Isn't that disrespectful? And then she's talking to him. Oh, don't you think that looks weak? This is not a media searching for an answer. This is not a media looking for, how do we get this together to build economic stability to the benefit of all people? This is media looking for a cheap headline as this liberal reporter from Sky

• 1:04:56Tom Ellsworth?

  has the opportunity to ask questions of two of the major leaders on this stage. She chooses that? That's what she chooses? I have zero respect for her as a reporter. You have an opportunity to cover such big issues. Oh, and you focus on daddy because you're trying to instigate it. Anything but Trump, anything but Trump.

• 1:05:15Patrick Bet-David?

  She was being unfair? You think she was being a little unfair, trying to look for a soundbite?

• 1:05:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna hold back. But yes, and I think.

• 1:05:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys know each other? Don't hold back, Tom.

• 1:05:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. No, no, no.

• 1:05:26Patrick Bet-David?

  It almost seems like it's personal.

• 1:05:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, no, I think that reporter is, is.

• 1:05:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What's her name? Can we look up this?

• 1:05:32Tom Ellsworth?

  She is emblematic of what is wrong. Look, the, the press of Walter Conkry looked for the story. The press of the history looked for the, to bring, to bring transparency to the people. She looks to bring controversy and she's not alone. She is no different from Joy Reid, a liberal press trying to go after leaders and create headlines and controversies when there's really nothing there.

• 1:05:56Adam Sosnick?

  And mind, and mind you, he didn't call him daddy. He's saying in regards to what, how he's handling it, it's, they would consider him daddy.

• 1:06:05Tom Ellsworth?

  She tried to leverage it. Do you think that children?

• 1:06:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:06:09Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think that you're being completely immature and childish in the way you're trying to approach this. Meanwhile, it just grates on the media that the world leadership is starting to coalesce and starting to show some respect and starting to come together because you know what they're thinking? You know what the media is thinking in their rooms when they do press? They're thinking this, oh shit, it's working for them.

• 1:06:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. They're getting along, they're getting progress being made and they do not want that because they need a little bit of the division. I don't know your relationship with that lady, whether you guys went to school together, any of that stuff. But I agree with the part on what you're saying, the fact that this is bringing nations together. There was a moment that I want to share with you that got, it's a very emotional moment and, and this lady is talking to the president about her husband being at war. And it's such a beautiful exchange. It's such a beautiful, innocent exchange. Rob, I texted it to you. If you can pull this one up. We moved on from CSUN. I just want you to go. If you can pull this up on the clip, I literally just texted it to you right now. So this reporter is asking, of course,

• 1:07:17Patrick Bet-David?

  she's from Ukraine, okay? She's concerned for her husband. And look at a president response. I love this. Go for it.

• 1:07:24Tom Ellsworth?

  He's Ukrainian. Where are you from? I'm from Ukraine. Oh. So my question to you is whether or not the US is ready to sell anti-air missile systems, Patriot, to Ukraine. We know that Russia has been pounding Ukraine really heavily right now. Are you living yourself now in Ukraine? My husband is there. Wow. I can see you're very, you know, it's amazing. And me with the kids, I'm in Warsaw, actually, because he wanted me to be. Is your husband a soldier? No? He is. He's there now? Yeah. Wow. That's rough stuff, right? That's tough. And you're living here? In Warsaw. And you're a reporter? I am.

• 1:08:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Good. So let me just tell you, they do want to have the anti-missile, missiles, okay, as they call them, the Patriots. And we're going to see if we can make some available, you know? They're very hard to get. We need them too. We were supplying them to Israel. And they're very effective, 100% effective, hard to believe how effective. And they do want that more than any other thing, as you probably know. That's a very good question. And I wish you a lot of luck. I mean, I can see it's very upsetting to you. So say hello to your husband, okay? Thank you.

• 1:08:40Adam Sosnick?

  I love, listen, with all the stuff that's happening, that's a genuine, like, he actually gives a damn about people. I get it. I get it's a crappy situation with everything that we've done with that war. But when he's actually like, so where are you? Is he here? Is there? Nobody gives it, nobody really gives a shit. He actually does care. And that's why I love his accent.

• 1:09:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a great moment. Adam, your thoughts on that moment there?

• 1:09:02Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'll tell you a funny story. One time I'm looking at my phone, I get a call and a text, and it's, it's from someone named Daddy. And it said, come to my office right now. I said, holy shit, what is going on here right now? That was PBD. I don't know, somehow PBD is in my phone as Daddy. But here's the deal. When Daddy calls, you pick up the damn phone and you listen. This whole conversation around Daddy, I know that they're making a joke. Oh, is he Daddy? Trump Is yo daddy. You know, there's the famous podcast, Call Her Daddy? No, no, no, no. Call him daddy. That's who Trump is at this point. So NATO is calling him daddy. The Latinos in Miami are calling him poppy. You know, Usher had a song called Daddy's Home. They're playing that left and right on the interweb. Trump's the man.

• 1:09:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump, undisputably at this point, much like, not like 2016. Trump is the number one leader in the world unquestionably. In 2016, when Trump was the president, he was getting basically dismantled left and right by his own party, by the Democrats, by the swamp, by the media. This time Trump's coming in and going, you, I'm the man. And I'm gonna do whatever I need to do to make the world a better place and protect America and utilize America first. So it turns out that everything that Trump said in 2016, a lot of it is right. Drain the swamp? Well, turns out we need to do that. Build the wall? Turns out we need to do that. And in this particular case, make NATO pay? That's exactly what's happening. Because, you know, everyone's talking about the daddy thing, but here's the three biggest

• 1:10:30Tom Ellsworth?

  takeaways that happened at the actual meeting. Number one, NATO agreed to up their defense spending from 2% to 5%

• 1:10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a big deal.

• 1:10:39Tom Ellsworth?

  In the next 10 years.

• 1:10:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy.

• 1:10:40Tom Ellsworth?

  So 2035, so what? You were paying a billion dollars? Now you gotta pay 2.5 billion dollars for your defense? Yes.

• 1:10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Their fair share.

• 1:10:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Whatever it is.

• 1:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Their fair share.

• 1:10:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Pay your fair share, make NATO pay. Number two, Trump doubled down on exactly what he did in Iran. The world is a safer place. Pete Hegseth came out and said what he had to say. But the last part here, the guy that called him daddy, his name is Mark Rut. He's the attorney, um, the secretary general of NATO. He basically came out and said, thank you daddy for coming here and saving NATO. So, you know, there's a whole conversation of like Anthony McInnes talking about make daddy a sandwich? Make daddy a sandwich and let Trump keep doing Trump. That's daddy's home.

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• 1:12:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Daddy's home. Yep. Boom, boom. By the way, tell them the whole story about why the phone said daddy. Because the user on Apple, when I was flying, it wouldn't let me text and one of my accounts from 20 years ago, 15 years ago, has daddy in it, but that's a completely different story. Okay, Papi. I see what's going on.

• 1:12:40Adam Sosnick?

  Papi Chulo.

• 1:12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Papi Chulo in Miami. Can I ask you a question? Let's change it to a completely different story, Tom. I'm going to go to the story about Rogan and Liver King. I don't know if you guys are following this closely or not. Low, you know, Rogan is out there minding his own business. And then all of a sudden, here's a story, Daily Mail. Netflix star is arrested for unhinged threats to Joe Rogan. All right, now Joe Rogan, why would you do that to Joe Rogan? Joe Rogan is a nice guy, loved. I think he's the one guy that's loved, liked and respected. He's a trifecta. He's got all the three of them right there. So Rogan gives, uh, uh, uh, Brian Johnson, known as Liver King,

• 1:13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  a disgraced influencer was arrested in Austin, Texas for making a terroristic threat. Really, they're using that word against podcaster Joe Rogan. With Johnson posting a video from a hotel room saying, I challenge you today, Joe Rogan, I'm here at Four Seasons in Austin. I'm in the shower, in the shower. He asked, uh, I don't even think he showered. He said he didn't shower, right?

• 1:13:43Adam Sosnick?

  He doesn't shower.

• 1:13:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, F you, Joe Rogan. You guys can, uh, call the cops after blaming Rogan for exposing his 2022 steroid scandal. Johnson threats included a video where he danced and. What appeared to be two gold-plated guns wearing a... Rob, do you have all the videos? I've got the threatened to kill anybody. I've not threatened to kill... Rob, just play this clip, because I almost can't read it. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:14:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, real quick, PS, PS. What I'm hoping is that you, Joe Rogan, are thinking, "I'm gonna choke that motherfucker out, lights out, I'm gonna choke him out." And I kinda hope that if you win, that's how it happens, because like, to wake up from that dream, that's a good feeling. And then anything else that you could break on me, break it on me. I hope that you, you won't feel me tapped, that's never happening, tapping, because I have something actually to fight for. Actually, that's my family. I have a principle to fight for. That's what I'm... And, "Oh, well, what if he actually does what he's saying?" What if, what if? That would be interesting. That would be interesting.

• 1:14:51Tom Ellsworth?

  What do you have to fight for? You're fighting. I hope you're mad. You should choke me out, you know how to do that. You're trained. You're trained. You got a black belt. Black belt in jiu-jitsu. I hope you choke me out. And if you don't choke me out, these other limbs will be interesting. Should be very interesting. That's the PS. It's just, I already thought about my game plan. I don't have a plan. I'm not gonna train. I'm not gonna train. But I hope you've been training.

• 1:15:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the other clip with the cockroach. There's a clip... What's this one, Rob? There's another one with a cockroach.

• 1:15:25Speaker 06

  I don't have the cockroach clip.

• 1:15:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I just texted it to you.

• 1:15:27Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:15:28Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this one?

• 1:15:28Speaker 06

  This is another weird clip from the Liver King.

• 1:15:31Patrick Bet-David?

  In Austin, he's waiting for Rogan?

• 1:15:32Speaker 06

  I believe this is before he left for Austin. This is him at his home where he... I'll show you.

• 1:15:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Because, Joe Rogan, we don't have to make videos to pretend anymore. Looks totally normal. All of this is happening, we're coming to you. I challenge you, man to man, to a fight. Honorable. We don't have to pretend or make any videos. The world is watching, they'll make the videos for us. And you don't have to hold a camera. You can hold the hand of somebody that you love, because what happens next... You're gonna need to remember that feeling. You're gonna need something more than what you did.

• 1:16:12Tom Ellsworth?

  To give you something to fight for, because I have my family to fight for.

• 1:16:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, okay, go to the, go to the cockroach one, because this one throws me off a little bit. I'm trying to really.

• 1:16:20Adam Sosnick?

  Something's wrong.

• 1:16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look, I don't, you know, have you ever befriended a cockroach? This is the first time I've ever seen somebody make a friend with a cockroach. But, I mean, everybody has different. Yeah. Like, we were in Mexico at, uh, Oaxaca. Was it Oaxaca? Or, no, we were in Guerrero. We were eating, Mari was having mezcal, this is many years ago. And we were eating, uh, crickets, and it was delicious, with lemon and. Really? Yeah, but I've never befriended a cockroach. And in Iran, there was a lot of, like, in Iran, you would drink Coke, 20% chance there's a cockroach. There's a roach in there. If you drank Coke, and, watch, if you're Iranian, you know this. If you lived in Iran in the 70s and 80s, and you drank Coke, specifically 80s, 10, 20% chance there was a cockroach and a Coke. Seriously?

• 1:17:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If you could, if you could get past it, it's fine, but I never befriended one. Go ahead. Let's make Iran great again. Let's get some cockroaches in sodas. Watch this clip here, very interesting.

• 1:17:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Starts today. I don't even know what day it is. But it's starting, and I'm not gonna go to sleep, and I am gonna sleep, I'm gonna rest, but right now, I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight for my family, for what's right, and I'm not gonna stop.

• 1:17:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm gonna fight

• 1:17:33Tom Ellsworth?

  until, until, oh, there's a cockroach right there. Where'd you go? Where'd you go? Oh, there you are. Yeah. Oh, there you little cockroach friend. Yeah. Oh, my friend, do you see him? Yeah. Oh, come, come, come here, little cockroach. Starts today.

• 1:17:52Adam Sosnick?

  You've never had that relationship before?

• 1:17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:17:54Adam Sosnick?

  Like, you've never had that relationship?

• 1:17:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Completely lost his mind. By the way, he got arrested, I think, right, Rob? Is that what happened? Can you go back? Is this it? Go forward. Shocker.

• 1:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened here? Is this, I think Joe's camp called the FBI.

• 1:18:10Speaker 06

  Yep, I believe this is at the hotel that he made the videos from. He's being detained.

• 1:18:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's that part.

• 1:18:20Speaker 06

  And then there's one final quick video. Um, this is just.

• 1:18:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Rogan explaining what happened?

• 1:18:25Speaker 06

  I, I could not find that. I do, okay, and I, while we're looking for that, I have this. This is after he was arrested. He's wearing an ankle monitor.

• 1:18:33Adam Sosnick?

  While still in Austin, Texas and continues to threaten to fight. And before he plays it, Pat, mind you, he has the bond set for $20,000. And yeah, the judge ordered in the state 200 yards away from his family and surrender any firearms. While he's going through mental health evaluation. Go for it.

• 1:18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Rogan versus Liver King. Again, it's not what you think. It's I'm talking about the filmmaker, the funny, the actual genius comedian, good and true. That guy's good and true. I'll pick a funny fight with him. So we're going to go there for that reason, but 200 yards, 200 yards restrain myself, I must do. If anybody, here's how we do it. If anybody's last name is Rogan and you're in the capital of Austin, Texas, like Capitol Hill stuff place, like where they make laws, like Rogan versus Liver King, where bullies that are big, that don't just do good and true are held accountable.

• 1:19:34Adam Sosnick?

  So what's going on here? I just, well, first and foremost, I know that we're laughing and stuff, but I think this is really important to point out. June is men's health, uh, mental health awareness month. Okay. No, I'm being dead serious. It's meant to highlight how serious this stuff is. Okay. We as men, we bottle stuff up way too long, you know? This month is about breaking that pattern. It's about, you know, reminding guys for asking for help isn't weakness. It's survival. Speaking of survival, it's the Liver King. But remember, Pat, this guy's 47 years old. He built his brand on, you know, the raw meat, the caveman lifestyle. What was it? The tenements and all that stuff? He, he said he was all natural, but found out he was spending $11,000 on a month on steroids.

• 1:20:16Adam Sosnick?

  And it blew up in his face, cost him deals, his products all, all took a huge, huge hit, led to lawsuits. But if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary, it's really, really messed up. They got with these agencies to make him big and he, and he blew up, but it was all on a lie. And I could. How much was he spending? $11,000 on juice time. I mean, you could obviously tell. Wow. And that, that's a photo of us right there. That's no bite. Look at him. He still looks, he looked normal ish for as normal as you could be. No deodorant, by the way, I had to wash that. That's right. And deodorant would just be $4.99. So it really wouldn't have taken a big hit into that budget. And look how tall he is. Yeah, no. Cause Vinny, look at that. Vinny's 5'4". This guy, is he 5?

• 1:20:55Patrick Bet-David?

  How tall is this guy?

• 1:20:56Adam Sosnick?

  And Adam's, look at Adam's gay and he was the furthest away from him. Adam normally, when there's a guy with a shirt off, Adam's normally underneath him, but anyway. Cause there's a weapon of ass destruction in there. But guys, and on the opposite side, cause about what, how does this mental, something's, something's gone. You could see behind his eyes and you know what he did do? He took ayahuasca, I think in March or May, and I'm telling you guys right now, and, and, and people don't understand. That type of stuff can push you over the edge. Okay. This, it's not some spiritual harmless like retreat. It cracks your mind open, it floods your brain with hallucinogens. Okay. It could break down your ego and forces you to face stuff, Tom, that's buried deep inside and something, it's, if you're not emotionally there, you already, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:21:39Adam Sosnick?

  Malik, if you're on shaky ground, Tom, it can shatter you. Wasn't it three weeks later, two weeks later, he was in Beverly Hills and he broke after us? It was very, Pat, am I right? He was in the streets going, I'm on steroids. But it wasn't that long, it was just a couple of weeks, wasn't it? Yeah. So something, and guys. And you saw it, it was like an emotional nervous breakdown on the corner of Beverly Hills. And horrible. And I'm, and I, and I don't know, listen, I'm not married. I don't know how the relationship thing works and he's, he's, he's the alpha, he's in charge of the family. But where's the family? Where's your wife? Where's your, where's your friends? They should be getting involved.

• 1:22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  His kids were there on the podcast, his wife showed up, everybody was there. And by the way.

• 1:22:15Adam Sosnick?

  Right now, Pat, I feel bad, like stop him. Yeah.

• 1:22:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Adam, go for it. I, I got a few things I want to say about this, which, which is very difficult, but go ahead, Adam. Here's my thoughts on the Liver King. So, uh, he's at the end of the day, just a pure savage animal, and I say that in a respectful way. When he came to the podcast, I remember that podcast, he came with his wife and kids, the Liver Queen, I believe is what she's called. And his family, you know, PBD, you mention a movie all the time. It's called Primal Fear. Yep. With Richard Gere and Edward Norton. You talk about that movie quite often, don't you? Yeah. But he's dealing with, you're seeing the animal instincts of primal fear. Don't get it twisted. This, this toughness, this, this, this, this rage, uh, is masking his genuine primal fear.

• 1:23:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That everything he's built and everything that he's worked on and his entire family could potentially be taken.

• 1:23:06Tom Ellsworth?

  In a way, whether it's accusations, whether it's steroids, whether it's money. His survival instincts are kicking in and he's using Joe Rogan as sort of the avatar for the world attacking him. So i- in in my opinion, uh, he is close to the edge. Because in his mind, his primal instincts are taking over. He fears that everything he's built will be gone. And his uh, love for his family is being masked by rage. Uh, slippery slope that he's on, and I wish him the best, and I hope he gets out of this mess. It's not looking good. No, yeah, and I was just trying to look and see if I can find that date, but it was just a matter of weeks where he just absolutely had a nervous breakdown.

• 1:23:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Where the whole, it seems like the, the, like, the, the curtain opened and they discovered that it was a charade. That it wasn't just eating mostly liver and other organ meats and working out. It was, man, that may have given you stacks of animal fat and protein and animal muscle protein. But you were just, you were juiced beyond juiced and to the point of, of having, you know, psychological effects on you. And I felt bad. I actually felt bad. I don't have pity, but I'm like, wow, you know? The guy, the guy broke, the thing broke and now he's, he's searching for significant, he's lashing out.

• 1:24:32Tom Ellsworth?

  The most thing that was nearest was Rogan and it's just, it's terrible. It's actually terrible to see this.

• 1:24:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Rogan said, everyone has been reaching out, uh, to have him on the podcast. He says, friends are even asking, hey, do you want to have Liver King on the podcast or not? He says, no, I don't want to have him on the podcast. And that was kind of like one way of, you know, whether he was not happy about not getting on the Rogan podcast, et cetera, et cetera. It's kind of made him upset.

• 1:24:53Tom Ellsworth?

  It would break records.

• 1:24:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't think it would actually.

• 1:24:56Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually, I actually think it's the opposite. I don't think it would break records. I don't think that many people are interested in this conversation. I don't think.

• 1:25:05Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 1:25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  It's something that's going to do extremely well. And I would be the one to say it. And I've spoken to Johnson many times, Brian, outside of our podcast, just basic conversations, things that he, uh, uh. spoken to him for probably five, six months, seven months, but I've spoken to him outside of the podcast. Here's what I would tell you. You have to be very careful about. The way life works and limelight works and attention works and and success works. There is a documentary. If you've never seen it, I've recommended this to so many people and most people have never heard about it before. It's called The Provocateur. It's the story of Morton Downey Jr., okay? You've heard me talk about it three or four times. Whatever you do, go watch this documentary.

• 1:25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Before there was Alex Jones, before there was any of these podcasts that are blowing up, before there was Pat McAfee, before there was the Bex of the world, before there was any of these guys. There was a guy named Morton Downey Jr. And for 18 months, Morton Downey Jr. was number one. He beat Oprah Winfrey. He beat Montel Williams, who used to be number one. He beat out so many people, it was insane. And the way he did it was to evoke, he would instigate, he would get in Ron Paul's face. You ever seen a clip of what he does to Ron Paul, Rob? He, I mean, when Ron Paul was in his 30s, he went on Morton Downey Jr.'s. Have you seen this clip? No. Okay. He would smoke like four or five packs a day. During the show. Oh, no, no. During the show.

• 1:26:33Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy Morton Downey Jr. So a young, can you find, is that the one, Rob? How many minutes is it? Oh, shoot, you gotta go to, so fast forward when when Ron Paul gets upset and he gets in a, right there, go back a little bit. Go back a little bit, go back a little bit, right there, go back a little bit more, a little bit more, right there. Press play. This is how he was. Watch this. Press play. The guy looks like he just came from Emmett Kelly's funeral. You're avoiding the issue when you attack his code. Stick to the issue. That's right. The issue is the grounds of freedom. Listen, listen to the guy. That's wrong. He's a head of slime, like you in the White House.

• 1:27:07Adam Sosnick?

  I'd puke on you.

• 1:27:11Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, look at him. So this is who he was. He was a provocateur. And then eventually, you know how he falls? Do you know the story about how he falls? So, his ratings take a hit. And when his ratings take a hit, he's no longer getting the same attention that he did for about a month. He goes, do you know the story, Rob? Or no, what he does? He goes in an airport bathroom, asks his producer

• 1:27:40Patrick Bet-David?

  to shave a part of his hair, to cut some part of his hair, and put like with a marker swastika on his back, and says white nationalists, right there, look with swastika on his face, and claims that he was attacked at the airport by white nationalists, or Nazis or something, not Nazis, but I don't know who it was, Rob. He tried to pull a Jussie Smollet. He did a Jussie Smollet. Yeah, and by the way, he blows like, oh my god, you know, because of what I'm talking about, they hate me, they want to stop me. I was like, holy shit, this guy's blown up. Ain't it what ends up happening? His producer's like, dude, I can't keep this life for this long. They go on Phil Donahue and he admits the fact that this was all a lie, it never happened. This isn't new on what's going on with Liver King.

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  There's nothing more addicting than attention. There's nothing more addicting than becoming a celebrity, and people recognizing you, and oh my god. There's nothing more addicting than a woman who does 78 surgeries to try to go back and look like the way she did at 25 years old, because she misses that attention. The attention that you get eventually doesn't become the same. And if you go like this, and use something like you did, and all you had to do is say, I use juice. That's it. So all you had to do, all you had to do is, no, I'm using, remember when I talked about his abs, I'm like, dude, do you have something in here? Yeah. Like, Oscar De La Hoya said what? I got a surgery done, look at this, it looks good. Yep. All you had to do was be straight up about it. But no, the attention got to him, it went,

• 1:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  didn't know how to handle it, and unfortunately, he's going through this right now, and it doesn't look like it's gonna end well. The way this story is going, it's gonna end up being very nasty. I hope it doesn't end nasty. I hope the right people can get ahold of him. I hope the, what you were talking about earlier, good friends come in and sit down and have a conversation with you and things change. But till then, we pray for him and we hopefully, again, family, kids, wife, brothers, siblings, are able to get ahold of him, have a conversation with him. Alright. But by the way, as much as this is a lot of hate that he got for it, I will still continue eating liver and I love liver.

• 1:29:46Adam Sosnick?

  I'm ordering.

• 1:29:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I will never get away from my Gagad and I like to eat it super rare.

• 1:29:50Adam Sosnick?

  I make it like that.

• 1:29:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty seconds. Boom, take it, boom, cut it, blood, we eat it.

• 1:29:54Adam Sosnick?

  Grass-fed, grass-finished. Pat, can I apologize to Vinny real quick? I'm sorry for lashing out at you, man. I didn't mean that. It's okay. Part of why I said that was because when the Liver King was here, Vinny, you promised to bring us liver to the show. I know. And you've never done it. And brought it to Pat's house.

• 1:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That's actually a good point.

• 1:30:09Adam Sosnick?

  And Adam, and I, and I, Adam, and I, I apologize for- I'm an angry Jew. Adam, I wanted some liver. And I, dude, and Adam, I, I so- If he was an angry patriot, you'd understand, no? I apologize for calling you homosexual even though it's pride mongering.

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my gosh, I'm gonna cry.

• 1:30:26Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry.

• 1:30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, kill me now.

• 1:30:29Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, stop it. Go ahead, Pat.

• 1:30:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, I'm gonna get to the next story here. I'm gonna get to the next story here.

• 1:30:33Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Tom, Poppy, Daddy, calm down.

• 1:30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, Austin Metcalf's suspected killer indicted on first-degree murder charge in track stabbing. Go ahead and play the clip, Rob. Go for it.

• 1:30:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Good afternoon. Earlier this spring, our community was shaken by what happened at a school track meeting in Frisco. The violent laws of seventeen-year-old Austin Metcalf. For weeks now, my team has been presenting evidence to the grand jury and today I summarized that evidence and I asked the grand jury to return a first-degree murder indictment against Carmelo Anthony, which they did. With this indictment, the case now moves formally into the court system. From this point forward, we'll continue doing our job both fully and fairly to pursue justice under the law. As for the scheduling of the trial, that will be up to the court. But when the time comes, we will be ready. Now, we know that this case has struck a deep nerve here in Collin County and beyond, and that's understandable.

• 1:31:30Tom Ellsworth?

  When something like this happens at a school event, it shakes people to the core. But let's remember that the justice system works best when it moves with steadiness and principle. That's what we're committed to, and that's what this case deserves. We're also mindful of Austin's family and everyone who loved him. Please keep them in your thoughts, and if you're willing, your prayers as well. Finally, let's remember that a defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law.

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• 1:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, is he? Okay, you know what his voice sounded like? It was like a

• 1:33:01Adam Sosnick?

  Like a sleep machine?

• 1:33:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Sunday, Sunday school, like a

• 1:33:04Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I was trying to get

• 1:33:05Patrick Bet-David?

  For kids, like a Sunday school teacher, like you're trying to put the kids to

• 1:33:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I was about to go to sleep.

• 1:33:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Howard nap.

• 1:33:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, that would have put me down. Tom's out.

• 1:33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We pray in the

• 1:33:12Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, Tom's up.

• 1:33:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Criminal, 18 years old, athlete from first school, County High School, was indicted for first degree murder, stabbing. Also, made up 17-year-old junior memory high school with count County County District Greg Williams. So Vinny, this story here, your thoughts on what we know about this?

• 1:33:27Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, actually, like, so remember when it first happened? And I mean, me and Tom were talking about this yesterday. Everybody was all, especially the, the, the African American community, especially those people like I don't know if it was his attorney or somebody, this freaking guy who's been arrested multiple times. I think it was attempted murder or something, Rob, if you could help me find out who this guy was. And the whole story was, as we always said, the, the, the black kid was the victim. Okay, he was there, he was approached by the white guy. The white guy tried to get tough and he stabbed him in self-defense. Okay, now allegedly the, uh, there's video showing that there was no threat. That he was just standing there talking to him and this guy took out a knife that he brought to attract me for no reason.

• 1:34:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Video shows.

• 1:34:09Adam Sosnick?

  They're saying that like there's footage because Pat, for them to come back with an indictment for, for first degree murder.

• 1:34:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:16Adam Sosnick?

  You know what that means? They have sufficient evidence to say, okay, we're seeing what we're not seeing with the, with the, uh, the, the public always tries to say, which it's, it's sufficient enough to take in. And I, and I know this from people that are lawyers and one of them, Selena, who's on, who's on, um, on my neck, that they have that, they hate going to trial, the state, Pat, if they don't have a home run hit. Meaning they think that it's over 90% that they're gonna, they're gonna win. Okay, and this kid died in his twin brother's arms. Okay, and still the media tiptoed around it and tried to act like, no, it was just, it was BS. And this is what pissed me off. The family pulled in $515,000. The public, without knowing any evidence, without seeing one freaking video, they're like, let's send this family money

• 1:35:01Adam Sosnick?

  because we think that this kid, uh, is innocent. So they paid for the legal fees, the, the rent, um, security, relocated them to a gated community, which I believe was $3,500 a month. And the campaign, uh, was run by Jacob Wells. And they're not getting any of that cash, uh, cash until it hits $600,000. Uh, but anyway, um, and just the bottom line is it's all smoke and mirrors. Okay, the media would rather hype up the racism than show or wait for, for the evidence. Okay, and it just drives me crazy that in those moments, all the race. All the race card gets, gets promoted, but nobody waits for the evidence. And God bless, the father of Jesse Metcalf, I still gotta give that guy credit back. Cause regardless of everything that happened, he did get a little bit choked up, but he said,

• 1:35:45Adam Sosnick?

  "We have to pray for this kid, we have to pray for this kid's family and hope that this kid sees the light, even though in the darkness of what he did, the crime that he did." Cause his father knows what was up, because his brother told him what happened. So that's, I, I just hope justice is done. And again, I have to pray for this guy and, and hope that he finds, you know, some, some love in his heart for everything that he just did.

• 1:36:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and by the way, his GoFundMe, Rob, is that correct that they raised? The goal was 1.396 million dollars. They raised five, they raised $538,000?

• 1:36:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yup.

• 1:36:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Does that money end up going to them whether it gets finalized or not? Do you know if that money gets activated or no?

• 1:36:21Adam Sosnick?

  I don't, I don't know if, that's a very good question. I, I don't know if you know, I, I think you could just stop the campaign whenever you want, Rob, and take the money.

• 1:36:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And just take the money.

• 1:36:29Adam Sosnick?

  If I'm not mistaken, cause I've done it when we raised the money for the guy.

• 1:36:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And what is the level of accountability for the money?

• 1:36:34Adam Sosnick?

  They don't give it, no, they don't, I don't, I don't think they give two shits. Once it's gone, Pat, the, all, all they worry about is the moment of, okay, transaction and give, send, go, or whatever, gets the money percentage and then it goes to the, to the family.

• 1:36:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do you have thoughts on this? Yeah, this is called due process and everybody says, "I was denied due process, I was denied due process." Look, this was not the DA bringing it. This was the DA going to a grand jury and there were eyewitnesses. But what there also was, they were at a track meet and other people with camera phones taking pictures of their own children and things happening. And grand jury got ahold of the rest of that and saw him reach into the bag and do things. So the DA came back and said, "I have a very strong case." And by the way, it's not just aggravated assault resulting in murder. No, it's not murder two, getting angry and doing it. No, it's murder one.

• 1:37:30Adam Sosnick?

  First degree.

• 1:37:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And murder one is the highest, most difficult bar. Requires revenge, premeditation and specific intent that is fully planned and contemplated. And so, due process took place here. Because the process normally is you have arrest, you have booking, you have the, the district attorney or in this case.

• 1:37:53Tom Ellsworth?

  case a grand jury coming make it down but instead we we had a bunch of other steps inserted in there this grandstanding that's not part of due process spin by the media that's not part of due process creating raising a legal defense fund now this is legal it is perfectly legal to go to give send or other places and raise a legal defense fund if you think someone has been wrong and you don't want them to use the public defender you want to make sure they can hire other you know assumably more competent people but due process is flowing here and the DA I applaud him for being very measured and specific and then saying you are innocent until proven guilty and this is the charge that we believe we're

• 1:38:38Tom Ellsworth?

  going to prove but the next step is court so I think we all have to remember there's another victim here right the victim is Austin Metcalf and everything that's there but the other victim is whatever happened to this young man who's going to be on the permanent you know payroll of of the US government or the the Texas correctionals system to the tune of 45 to 50 grand a year for the rest of his life and so you have to remember he's about to enter crime college and and so I I just see a lot of victims here and what happened to this young man that that he got himself to the point that before he's ever really a full-blown 21-year-old you know individual out in society that he has the

• 1:39:22Tom Ellsworth?

  capacity to get to such a dark place and to go down and and do this and so that's what I think for everybody complaining about due process it's here and it's running shut up

• 1:39:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam Yeah First he gets upset at the lady sees on and goes go for it Adam Tom's got a temperature I'm listening to you go for it Sir sorry so justice was served what they tried to do as Vinnie pointed out was try to make this into a race thing

• 1:39:50Tom Ellsworth?

  They really tried to turn this into a race thing. You know, PBD on the podcast we did Tuesday, you talked about how everyone has bias.

• 1:39:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:39:57Tom Ellsworth?

  You're so right. All right, this person has bias. Who, what side are they on? How do they develop their relationships? What issues do they process? Bias, bias, bias. There's people out there that genuinely saw a black kid versus a white kid. And they go, I got the black kid's back. Straight up. Doesn't matter that he murdered somebody. Doesn't matter that he just got convicted of first degree murder. I'm on his team. I'm gonna donate money. What? So he, he tried to raise, I think, over a million dollars. They raised a half a million dollars of people that were simply coming to his fence because he was black. There's no other reason. He just got convicted of first degree murder. By the way, the same people could also be guilty on the other side. There's people, oh, he's white. We gotta defend the white guy. Let justice persevere.

• 1:40:41Tom Ellsworth?

  They call it blind justice. Justice was, um, was served. This gentleman, this young kid, this 17-year-old ruined his life. He, he took somebody's life. He ruined the life of the family. This kid had a twin brother, did he not, Austin Metcalf? Twin brother.

• 1:40:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:40:56Tom Ellsworth?

  What does that kid have to do?

• 1:40:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:40:57Tom Ellsworth?

  What does that kid have to do when he looks in the mirror every single day and sees his brother's face? His dead brother's face? So justice was served. We all have bias. And I think people should check their bias before they weigh in on situations. Am I biased on this because he's black or white? Or Christian or Jewish or Muslim? Probably yes. But thank God, in the United States, we don't care about bias. We care about justice.

• 1:41:18Adam Sosnick?

  And just to clarify, there was a GoFundMe set up for Carmelo Anthony. It was taken down once it reached six figures. Estimated was about 160,000 before GoFundMe removed it because their policy bans fundraisers for violent crimes defense. And to answer your question, Pat, there is no automatic accountability for how the money is spent on GiveSendGo. It's up to the fundraiser organizer to be transparent, but there's no built-in oversight. So as for the goal, you don't have to wait for it to hit the goal. You can access the cash whenever you want.

• 1:41:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I appreciate Adam's point. Appreciate Adam. In the middle of your point, you may not have realized. Is that you said convicted, he's actually been indicted and the next step is the full trial. Yeah, so, okay, thanks for that correction. We'll see what happened here. Uh, next story I want to get into, folks, this is a, this is a story that may be a boring story, but it has to do with your money. You may want to pay attention to it because it's. You have to understand them. So US liability insurance on virtue breakdown. From tide of claims, okay, from tide of claims. That they're getting, okay, and remember, all these people are in business to make money. You have a job, you don't do it for free, you work to make money so you can pay the bills. Companies build businesses to make money, and if they don't make money, they either go bankrupt, they sell to somebody else that has money.

• 1:42:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Or they find a way to raise the prices, fire people, make some kind of adjustments, right? The US casualty insurance market, which protect, protects. Businesses against legal claims or employees, customers or other harmed by operations or products. Uh, faces a potential breakdown with Everest chief of executive Jim Williamson. Warning, it won't be question of how much we're willing to pay. The cover won't be available. Prices rose eight percent the first quarter, making twenty-three consecutive quarters of increases. Per March, despite insurance introducing exclusions for claims like data privacy. Violations and forever chemical pollutants. Williamson noted, no one will offer it at any price citing a surge in payouts driven by what he called fraud legal systems.

• 1:43:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Abuse and runaway jury verdicts insurers are grappling with rising claims. Promoting Everest to set aside 1.7 billion dollars in reserves for losses and raise. Access liability insurance rates by twenty. To twenty-five percent annually with Williamson stating that's an enormous inflationary. Factor for business. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, first of all, there's two problems here. The first problem here is it's not the runaway jury. The, the runaway jury is the end. That because that's a, that's a jury that's been selected of the people who are impaneled to. Listen to a case and anybody who's registered to voter of his driver's license and is a citizen can end up on a jury. That's a jury doing its job and they call it runaway victim. The issue.

• 1:43:56Tom Ellsworth?

  is the lawyers in that courtroom. And the lawyers in that courtroom, which they're referred to as white collar ambulance chasers, who are, you know, bringing claims against companies just for the insurance. And Pat, what's very interesting, and we'll say here, full disclosure, over the years, we've actually done business with Marsh. Marsh has provided insurance to some of the nine companies that Pat, you know, has founded and led. And so what's interesting here, we've seen this firsthand, where them saying, hey, guys, we're going to put the cyber insurance on a secondary policy. Remember that, Pat? Yeah. If you will accept to the following limits and protect yourself in the following way.

• 1:44:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So we actually increased our own software and security so that we could be, get a better price, similar to if you show your car has an alarm system, you're a good driver and you're in a locked garage, you can reduce, you know, the cost of your own car insurance because you're reducing the risk of loss. And so what's happening here is the US liability insurance companies are blaming it all on the, the, the attorneys that are bringing these cases and things here. That's only part of it. The other part of it is greater education is needed with, with the, with the companies that are insured. We went out and didn't just accept the bid.

• 1:45:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat always says, hey, get three bids for everything and don't let a single vendor do business with you year after year and maybe get too comfortable, assuming that you're just going to say, yeah, yeah, just renew my, just renew me, just renew me. You go out and do it. And so companies need to go out and find out the things we could do because we reduce some of our rates through active examination of our own self to make ourselves a more appealing to be assured. But this is bad. At the bottom line, this is bad because you've got, these companies are necessary to cover business and it's a cost of doing business that if this cost keeps rising,

• 1:45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It shows up in the cost of the product. Yeah, it does. And, and I remember for us, when we would sell an insurance product of a company, and we loved it. We do such a good job selling the product, and all of a sudden, they're like, nope, we're shutting down this product. Why? It's not profitable. What do you mean? We sold thousands of this policy. I know, but it's not profitable. Remember the 35-year ROP that we have, return to premium, that our guys used to love to sell? I can give you so many different. Midwest carrier. And all of a sudden, they would announce this. So this, this happens. And typically, the reason why this happens with insurance companies is because of abuse by customers or regulation because of states. So abuse by customers happens regularly.

• 1:46:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Abuse by states is what you notice happening with California, where they're forcing them to not raise certain prices. And the fair plan. That's right. And the fair plan, and carriers are just saying, I'm out of here. Adam, your thoughts on this here, on this story?

• 1:46:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, we've all been in the insurance business, Pat, Tom, myself. I don't know about Vinnie, but I'm sure he got a, a discount double check from State Farm.

• 1:46:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:57Tom Ellsworth?

  But, huh, yeah. But, uh, we understand that the, the basic premise of insurance is to protect your ass and your assets. So I apologize, but, uh, you know what always happens? Shit happens. You ever heard that phrase before?

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Multiple times.

• 1:47:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Why do you need insurance? Is because stuff is going to happen that you're not planning for. So everyone has a plan. You know that whole phrase? Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Mike Tyson, life is going to give you lemons, and you're not always going to be able to afford lemonade, is what they're basically saying. You know, I talk about the six principles of wealth and do these six things, and then you're going to be able to have financial freedom. Number five is insurance and protecting your ass and protecting your assets. We've seen GEICO and all these companies try to leave California. Home ownership, home, uh, home insurance, car insurance.

• 1:47:48Tom Ellsworth?

  We devalue things that we don't necessarily want or need until we actually need them. I can't understate the importance of insurance and until it basically leaves your state, it becomes unaffordable. You can't have it anymore. You don't realize what you actually need is the protection that insurance offers. So this is just one more example of what's happening in the insurance markets.

• 1:48:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So listen, I was gonna go to Vinnie because Vinnie had a very in-depth 20-page slide analysis.

• 1:48:15Adam Sosnick?

  But to answer you, Pat, I want to bore the hell out of everybody.

• 1:48:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't want to do that. It's too technical.

• 1:48:19Adam Sosnick?

  I have charts.

• 1:48:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't. It's too technical. We don't want to do this to the audience.

• 1:48:23Adam Sosnick?

  No, I don't want them.

• 1:48:24Patrick Bet-David?

  With your permission, are you okay if we skip this?

• 1:48:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, because my numbers scream and Pat, they're like today, it's annoying.

• 1:48:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want to do that. And we could get you a whiteboard and you can calculate the loss reserve for us.

• 1:48:34Adam Sosnick?

  I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do it in the how to app.

• 1:48:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe over lunch. Let's go to this last story and we'll wrap up here. Rogan gives decisive take on MAGA civil war on Iran bombing. Let me go over here.

• 1:48:48Adam Sosnick?

  He only has two more months. If you listen to Chris Cuomo, he has two more months to being on top. And then let's see if Chris's prediction, right? Chris's prediction comes to pass.

• 1:48:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read this here. So, "Podcaster Joe Rogan supported by Congressman Thomas Massey's opposition to President Trump's involvement in Israel-Iran conflicts sitting on the podcast." You know, go ahead and play the clip. Go for it. Right here.

• 1:49:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I think the whole MAGA thing right now is very divided, particularly because one of the things that they voted for was no war. Well, now it seems like we're in a war, right? So, and it's quick. We're six months in and that's already popped off. And then people are very concerned with now what happens to our troops overseas that are in these bases that are in vulnerable positions.

• 1:49:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the clip?

• 1:49:35Adam Sosnick?

  That was it.

• 1:49:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, Vinnie, your thoughts on this clip here by Rogan? Actually, no, Adam, I'm gonna come to you first because this was your story.

• 1:49:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Go to Vinnie first.

• 1:49:43Adam Sosnick?

  Because I'm having some mic questions. Okay, pal, let's just be honest, and how many times have I said this? I've been supportive of Trump since 2016. I was in Los Angeles where it was not only not cool, people were punching people in the head for wearing red hats that weren't even Make America Great Again. I was freaking, they tried to attack, but we were deeper and we know how to fight way better. I would get off stage at certain comedy clubs, I don't want to say their names, but if I said anything positive about Trump or anything, the owner, Tommy, would go up to me and be like, "Hey, you can't, you can't do this." And then I would have Persian, like, I'd do like the Persian night at this place, or Middle Eastern night, and there'd be guys up like, "May you and Trump, you can go to..." And then, it was funny, once shit started going bad in California, he was like, "You know what?

• 1:50:26Adam Sosnick?

  F Biden," he would switch, and so everything switched. But just, and this is why I want people to realize, you can like Trump, you could like the policies, which I love a huge amount of policies. If there's certain things that you don't like, that's totally fine. You don't have to agree with everything, was it that blind loyalty part? And I get where he's saying, I don't think it's that hardcore divided. People get disappointed because you want perfection, you want every single promise made. I personally, I, on top of everybody else, I want zero ground troops. Everybody knows where I stand, I want zero wars. But sometimes, guys, and it sucks to say it, what Adam says, shit happens, okay? And I've gotten to the point, and I'm being, I know people are gonna talk shit, I'm not saying wars, I still don't want no war.

• 1:51:11Adam Sosnick?

  But we have to understand, when there's a freaking group of people, if somebody walked up to us right now, we're at this house, and somebody goes, "Yo, you know what? I'm gonna kill everybody in this fucking house. Whenever I get a chance, whenever I get the guns, I'm gonna come back here and kill everybody in this freaking house." I can't just go, "Okay, yo, peace out, dog, we'll see you." No, no, that is a threat to me, Tom. And guess what? I take threats like that serious. So I can understand where people right now are like, "No." And like, and I saw Candace's thing, jumping out and now, and now, saying that I regret telling people to vote, or I'm mad about the vote. So you just forget about everything else? You forget about the border, you forget about the fentanyl deaths that are... By the way, the border is shut down, okay? The economy is coming back. I know we have clips, we're not probably not gonna be able to get it.

• 1:51:57Adam Sosnick?

  All the terrorists, everything is starting to come around. NATO, everybody's coming around. This one situation, which mind you, not one American soldier has touched ground. Yet there was two, what, I'm gonna say, let's say what, Tom, six to eight, maybe 10 people in the B-52 bombers going and then coming back. And again, I don't want any new wars. This is something that the president, which I trust his judgment, let him cook, Adam, we always say this, let him cook, I trust him, he's America first, he gives a shit about people. He's, and I love people are trying to throw that whole, well, the Epstein thing and, you know, Elon said something, so that means he's on the Epstein list and that's why he's kissing Bibi's ass. No, no, Donald Trump, I don't give a shit what anybody says. Out of all of them, is America first.

• 1:52:42Adam Sosnick?

  Go back and look at the footage from the early 90s, late 80s, I love America, I love America. And all the talk shows that won't even let his ass come on right now. He's America first. And yet, people are disappointed, but disappointment doesn't mean regret your freaking vote and jump ship. Stay the fucking course, sorry for my language, Pat, and let him do his thing, bro. America is a thousand times better than what it was the past four years with Joe Biden and the auto pen, all the shit that we found out that he wasn't even behind the wheel. So that's how I feel.

• 1:53:09Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Adam, thoughts? And by the way, is that the, Rob, you pulled up that clip, which clip is this?

• 1:53:13Speaker 06

  This is Candace Owens saying she regrets having people vote for Trump.

• 1:53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it, play the clip.

• 1:53:18Adam Sosnick?

  You done with Donald Trump, or could you see a way that you would end up perhaps voting for him? Oh, he can't run again, obviously, but would you support him publicly again?

• 1:53:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So I want to be clear, I don't regret voting for Donald Trump above Kamala, I think he was the better candidate. Certainly a better candidate above Joe Biden, but what I will say is that he's been a chronic disappointment. And I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him because this wasn't going to happen and it is happening. But I, I, I just think that the picture of-

• 1:53:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, your thoughts about what Rogan said and then what Candace said? Well, yeah, I, I wonder if Candace is gonna take back her wrong words on that. I think she should, because she's abandoning Trump. Nobody voted-

• 1:54:00Adam Sosnick?

  For you, Candace. Everyone voted for Trump. So the, the, the, what's getting lost in translation here with Trump.

• 1:54:08Adam Sosnick?

  Trump's not a pacifist. Trump's not a pussy. Trump recognizes a threat and will eliminate them. Wasn't Trump that took out General Soleimani? We talked about that the other day. Where were, where, where was the foreign entanglements? When he did that, wasn't Trump the president who took out ISIS? That Obama let occur in the Middle East? And said it was a JV team? Wasn't it Trump that took out ISIS? Where were you on that? I think one thing's abundantly fricking clear. Tucker. Candace, Dave Smith, all the neo non-interventionalist these days. Trump is not George W. Bush. He's not gonna get us in endless wars. He's not gonna continue the foreign entanglements.

• 1:54:53Adam Sosnick?

  So when Trump promises no new wars, that doesn't mean he's not a pussy. And that he's not gonna fire a bullet or take out nuclear weaponry. If it needs to be done, he's demonstrated the ability to act targeted and strategic and take out enemies. And move the hell on. We're not putting ground troops in Iran. That was never a thing. This, this, this outrage, oh my God, it's World War III. You need to get all your kids out of the, you need to deenlist from the army. Stop it. You're, you're selling fear porn to the American public. That by the way, if you look at any fricking poll, is overwhelmingly in favor of making sure that Iran does not get nuclear weapons.

• 1:55:37Adam Sosnick?

  So Trump is not a pacifist. He'll do what needs to get done. He's running the show. No one else is Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith. Trump's the man. And for all the people that voted for him, stick with your guy. I'm sticking with him.

• 1:55:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Thoughts, Tom?

• 1:55:51Adam Sosnick?

  So. By the way, Candace, I'm not, last thing. Candace, just let me say one thing. I feel bad for her. I'm sorry. But she was just.

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  Recently diagnosed with a severe condition, I feel for her. It's called IDS, Israel Derangement Syndrome.

• 1:56:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You're funny.

• 1:56:07Speaker 02

  And it's lethal, it's deadly. Trump talked about this, Trump Derangement Syndrome. You know, first it takes over the mind and then it comes to the body. And I wish her well, I hope that she can take some aspirin and get out of this. But right now, all she's doing is blaming everything on Israel. And it's very unattractive.

• 1:56:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom. Well, I didn't hear that part in this particular clip, and I'll just respond to this. She's saying, I don't regret voting for Trump. He was the better candidate over all of that Biden and Kamala Harris. And then she says, I personally feel embarrassed that I encourage people to vote. So, and that's where I see kind of the chasm here. And if I was sitting here having a cup of coffee with her, I'd say, Candace, you say you don't regret voting, but you regret getting other people to vote. Well, if those other people didn't vote, we don't get the outcome. Something else would have happened, don't you see that? Now, I know you can say, now you feel like you're taking criticism because, oh, all these things are happening in Candace and you told us to vote for him. Well, what's the alternative?

• 1:57:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think Candace needs to get back to that. What would have the alternative been? So, I don't agree with this. You know, I'm not going to go heavy on the criticism, but I don't agree with the angle here. I'm not embarrassed that I convinced, you know, a particular member of my family to vote for Trump. I'm not embarrassed at all because I'm sticking with the, and I know this is like an NBA thing, trust the process because things are happening. And we started this podcast talking about how things are coming together. Things are starting to coalesce. And so, it's like, and now let's look at it 60 days from now. And then let's look at that 60 days after then. And let's see what's happening. And in the middle of the fog of war right now,

• 1:57:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Kristi Noem made a comment about an agreement and things that is very economically beneficial we just did with Costa Rica so behind the fog of it all there's a lot of things going on and so I'm not embarrassed that I encourage So here's what I would say. A particular member to vote it. It's okay. I don't I don't think you should be embarrassed. It's it's gonna be okay. It's it's gonna be a gift for all of us, but here's what I here's what I would say, Adam. It's okay. It's not your fault. You know, you know what I look at when I'm looking at you. Tom, I'm gonna give you permission to say it's okay to vote for Trump. First of all. I've been encouraging you to vote for Trump for eight years, Tom. You you you have to. I love how you made sure Tom's statue was in the podcast with you. I love that. That's all I'm looking at when I look at you. I'm right up there. He's right next to you. There's Tom next to Rocky. But let me let me take you guys about what Robyn said to Bernie and then what Candace said with Pierce.

• 1:58:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's here's a couple of things to keep in mind. When it comes on to Candace, I don't know if Candace has to be worried about supporting Trump because I don't know if Trump Candace really fully drove people to go vote for Trump. I if I go back and recall Candace wasn't fully, fully all in supportive, gung ho, beginning to the end. That did not happen. It wasn't a fully aggressive, hey, you know what I'm saying? Not at all. Not this time. I don't think she was. So she doesn't need to worry about that because she wasn't supportive and she didn't really push people. Yes, when we did our election night and she was there and people were there and then she posted a tweet, I think, that said, hey, congratulations, Trump won. Once it was over with, yes, she was very much a in a

• 1:59:21Patrick Bet-David?

  a celebratory mood and it was optimism, excitement, him, herself, Dave Smith was there and we had, you know, Alex Jones, Jenk Uger, Dominic Targenski. We had a lot of people there that day. I think we even had the Cuomo. Brian Callen, Cuomo, a lot of people. Tom did a phenomenal job. Mike Chandler. Tommy did a phenomenal job that night. But going going back to that with Candace. Thank you for. Yeah, I don't, I don't think I see Candace as she, she was like someone that did and then now it's a disappointment, right? Dave Smith at the Libertarian Conference, Trump was there, he brought Trump up, there was some boos and then when Trump started saying stuff about getting rid of, you know, Gensler and then everybody started screaming and then he said it again.

• 2:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That was the turn when things turned around. So, you know, Dave Smith, yes, supported a little bit more than Candace did publicly, in my opinion, and I don't, I haven't watched all of them. There may be clips where it's full on Candace saying 100% Trump vote, all this stuff. But let's go back to what Rogan said. I don't, I don't have any problem with it. I don't have any problem with it. I think Thomas Massey has a different position than the president. He's not supportive of the big beautiful bill. Thomas Massey is not for what AIPAC does. Thomas Massey is not a friend of AIPAC nor supportive of what AIPAC does and Thomas Massey has the right to deliver his message and give his insight of what he believes is happening. And then this leads to what? Here's what this leads to, Vinny, Tom, Adam.

• 2:00:49Patrick Bet-David?

  All of this leads to everyone's number one issue. Okay? Some people's number one issue is what? Economy. That's most people. Some people's number one issue was what? Immigration. Border. No problem. Some people's number one issue was Israel. Okay? In 2028, we're going to find out how much Americans' number one issue is what your number one issues? I'd love to see Thomas Massey run. I'd love to see Candace run. I'd love to see JD run, Rubio run. I'd love to see Vivek back added run. I'd love to see a lot of people run. And I'd love to see all these issues getting filtered out and see what happens. Make sense?

• 2:01:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you're gonna sit there and say, whoa, I thought it was 50% of people supporting that issue. It's really only 13%. It's not that big because we can post, the best way to test this, folks, it's such a weird dynamic. I can post the same thing on X.

• 2:01:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And get 70% of people that'll hate the same post. And I can post it on Instagram and 80% supports it. It's like you're in two different countries, okay? And America is not all on X. We all think that everybody on X is what determines what America's. It's not true. The climate on YouTube is different than the climate on LinkedIn is different than the climate on Facebook is different than the climate on TikTok is different than the climate on all these different places. You may post that same thing on X and miserably lose if you post it on LinkedIn. And on LinkedIn, they're like, no, I'm actually not with it because LinkedIn voters are more what? They're more logical business. They're like, no, I could.

• 2:02:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And I guess who you're gonna need? The job creators to support your positions. You're gonna need the job creators to say, yeah, this is right. You know, the investment and all this other stuff. That's true. And the job creator is gonna be like, nah, I don't know if I'm with it. So I actually don't have any problem with everything that's taking place. I think it's good to have the debate, the discourse, but at the end of the day, within time, people realize who was right, who was not, who took the right position. In 2016, I can think about a lot of influencers that went hardcore against Trump and they lost seven years. They literally lost seven years and had to recover from it. Seven years later, I think that's gonna happen in this next cycle as well, the next two, four, six, eight, 10 years.

• 2:03:12Patrick Bet-David?

  To see where and what market, like what communities does the audience watch and say? These, this person or that person seems to be the most willing to entertain opposing ideas. And they have the ability to reason and they have certain biases, which is fine. And they're willing to present their argument. And this is where I lean with them. I disagree with them here, but I agree with them here, but I think they're fair here. I think that's what the next phase is. This is the same reason why the Austin Metcalf and the Carmelo Anthony thing that they try to turn into the next, what do you call it, Jussie Smollett or the next? You know, next black, white division. It didn't work because Americans are like,

• 2:03:48Adam Sosnick?

  Troy Floyd.

• 2:03:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You've done this so many times, we're done with this. Same thing's gonna happen in 2028. And I think Rogan is still gonna be number one. I think this whole thing about what

• 2:03:58Adam Sosnick?

  I, I, I do too, cuz Chris is gonna get sad.

• 2:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Rogan has still got an audience that's very different than everybody else's. Adam, I wanna go to the signatures before I wrap up. So that's the only thing I wanna go to before I wrap up. Rob, what page is that one on? Uh, uh, can you tell me what page that one? Actually, you know what? Do I wanna go to signatures or teachers' union? Vinny, do you have a lot of stuff on the signature stuff?

• 2:04:15Adam Sosnick?

  I don't have, I don't have a lot. I mean, I could just very briefly just say what it is.

• 2:04:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, where's that signatures article?

• 2:04:21Speaker 06

  That is, uh, page 10 in the Joe Biden autopen section.

• 2:04:24Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the Joe Biden autopen section. Where's that at? Page 10? I don't see the Joe Biden aut- oh, there it is. Okay. So ex-Biden aide, Neera Tanden, tells Oversight Committee she was authorized to use autopen. Whoa, little weird. Rob, do you have the clip of this?

• 2:04:41Speaker 06

  Yes, this is her outside of the testimony yesterday where she is asked if she helped in the cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

• 2:04:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, shoot. Go for it. Go for it.

• 2:04:49Speaker 01

  A brief comment.

• 2:04:52Speaker 01

  I, uh, just spoke with the House Oversight Committee, Majority and Minority Counsel. I answered every question, was pleased to discuss my public service, and, uh, it was a thorough process and I'm glad I answered every question.

• 2:05:07Adam Sosnick?

  Was there an effort to disguise President Biden's condition?

• 2:05:10Speaker 01

  Absolutely not.

• 2:05:11Adam Sosnick?

  Look at her walk away. Look at that.

• 2:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What did he ask?

• 2:05:14Speaker 06

  Were you helpful in the cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive condition? And she said, absolutely not, and then just walks right.

• 2:05:20Adam Sosnick?

  How, like, okay, you wanna talk about body language? Do you see that?

• 2:05:24Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 2:05:24Adam Sosnick?

  This, by the way, so she testified that for 20 months, guys, think about this. And who knows, this is just one instant. From October 2021 to May 2023, she used the autopen to sign off on, are you ready for this? Documents that included pardons.

• 2:05:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 2:05:40Adam Sosnick?

  Heyo, pardons, executive orders, and more. Some of it's obviously behind closed doors, so we can't say, uh, can't see it. She claimed that she was authorized to do it, and she said she would pass along decision memos to Biden's inner circle before using the autopen. Think about it. She would write a memo saying, this is what I'm gonna have him sign for. Is it cool? And not the president, guys, an intermediary, uh, people in the middle, I just messed up that word, would tell him, I mean, he probably wouldn't even tell him, Rob, you saw that, that word just, um, my brain tried to do it, but he wasn't, he was, he, and the, the, the point is, the problem is, was he even given the authorization to let, you know what I mean, for whatever she was doing? So the White House insists that it was all above board, that Biden personally approved everything,

• 2:06:24Adam Sosnick?

  uh, but now the oversight is pressing hard and asking who was really, uh, running the country. And so, by the way, this is what we've been saying the whole time. This is what Jake Tapper and everybody has to be like, oh my God, we didn't know, but we had to report on it, but I'm just, and again, I, and this is what, we're talking about what people voted for and all that stuff, one of the main ones for me, Pat, besides the border, besides the Epstein and the list and all that type of stuff, which I'm still waiting and hopeful that we get the actual answers, it was this type of stuff. It was the pardons that we're giving to freaking Hunter Biden, the entire Biden regime, the whole family, shifty shift, the January 6th committee, and Dr. Anthony Fauci.

• 2:07:07Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I want this, this to me, Tom, is pressing, I want, this is at the top of my list, because you know me when it comes to accountability, I want all these people to be held freaking accountable, and I think this is a little crack in, in the ship that's gonna, uh, make it come down. I think it's gonna happen.

• 2:07:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting to see what's going on here. So Rob, what was the other clip that you had? Uh, this is Scott Perry, uh, what's in this clip, Rob?

• 2:07:29Speaker 06

  This is him explaining what the House Oversight Committee is investigating in regards to the auto pen use.

• 2:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Looking at them in, in the context of, did Joe Biden actually have any clue about what the auto pen was signing, or were they doing it on his behalf? And, uh, you know, everybody's gonna hunker down, everybody's gonna be tight, tight lipped about that.

• 2:07:51Tom Ellsworth?

  And so it's gonna be hard to determine. I mean, Joe has already said that, you know, he knew all of this stuff, but we know that he signed Hunter's pardon, but with his bare, you know, with his own hand, but the other ones were auto-penned. So, we don't know if he really knows all these people. And quite honestly, even when they were standing right in front of him, I'm not saying this to be mean, but he couldn't even identify his own Secretary of Defense on occasion, or people that he had appointed to these very high-level positions. It's sad, but it's reality. And what I think this is gonna show, whether it's admitted or not, and whether it's provable or not, the people that were actually in charge- How embarrassing, looking back.

• 2:08:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry, Tom.

• 2:08:33Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I look at this a little bit differently. I look at this from an investigative standpoint, and get past all of the spin and everything that's going out. Okay, a cog in the wheel, hey, a cog in the wheel says that she was authorized to get things signed. Who did you work for? Who did you work for? This is like when Giuliani had the map of the mob, and he had the red squares for the people that had been indicted, and then he had some yellow squares that were blank, that he said were informants, and he was forming the labyrinth, you know, the chart of everybody. And it's something similar they did. You seen Godfather 2, when they're in the hearing, you know, and the, they got that, this is where the

• 2:09:14Tom Ellsworth?

  crime families are. So, I look at her as a box in a flowchart. Okay, she said she did it. Who did she get these from? Who did she hand them off to? And let's find out, who was at the top? Because you know who I think it was? I think it was Blinken, and Chief of Staff, and one other. And I think that that was the folks that were really running policy of these United States, which is not right. That's the President. So, I believe the President was incapacitated, people running policy, and then follow the flowchart down, then they get to her, and they say, get to near a pen den, I mean, tandem, and have her go get the thing signed, right?

• 2:09:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I bet she had a nickname. Or go, uh, get the thing signed, right? I bet she had a nickname because of her last name. I'm not picking on her last name. Instead of Tanden, you could call her Penden. You know, it's like, give it to Penden, get the thing signed. But I think there's a flow chart here, PBD. And I think she just admitted how one part of it's working. And I think we should continue the investigation beyond the spin and the grandstanding in the hallways in front of microphones and flow back and find out who is the small committee.

• 2:10:22Patrick Bet-David?

  If it was proven that he, somebody else that all these auto pens on pardons, can any one of them be overturned?

• 2:10:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's gonna end up in front of the Supreme Court.

• 2:10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God, that would be explosive. If it goes in front of Supreme Court and it's overturned.

• 2:10:39Tom Ellsworth?

  What does Trump do that day?

• 2:10:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Has Supreme, Rob, have you ever seen if, has any pardon ever been overturned? Has any pardon by a US president been overturned? Any one of them? I'm, I'm, I'm actually very curious if this has happened. No. A presidential pardon has never been overturned by any original, by constitutional power under Article Section 2 of, something else, absolutely no federal, this is power? The pa, this power is absolute for federal crimes? No subject, okay. What if, what if it was used by an auto pen that the president?

• 2:11:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Did not authorize.

• 2:11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That the president never authorized? So let's just see, let's see what it says here. Is that a crime? Uh, let's see what it says here. Excellent question. And you're now stepping into one of the few gray areas in the presidential pardon law. A pardon is signed by auto pen but not authorized by the president. That pardon will likely be invalid.

• 2:11:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Boom.

• 2:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's why. Presidential intent is key. The US Supreme Court rule, uh, United States versus Rilson, 1833, verdict versus US 1915, that a pardon is a deed like a contract. It must be delivered, accepted unauthorized to be valid. If a staffer used an auto pen and mechanical, uh, signature device without the president's express authorization, it would likely, it would be like forging his signature. The core intent of the president missing precedent of an. Auto pen use president of George

• 2:12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Could it be overturned? Yes, if a court is presented evidence that the pardon was issued via auto pen and the president never authorized it. Then the courts could nullify the pardon because the legal instrument was never valid in the first place. This would not be overturned. This would not be an overturning of a legitimate pardon. It would be declaring that a valid pardon never existed. That's right. So it wasn't a presidential part. So it'd be like, we're not overturning a presidential pardon. There never was a presidential pardon. You fraudulently created a document.

• 2:12:40Adam Sosnick?

  I love that when Fauci hears, because you know Fauci is listening to this type of stuff. He goes, oh shit. Oh, please no. And I just, and again, I want this to go the entire way like they have.

• 2:12:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Push for the hearings, push for the next person. Let's fill out the flow chart. Who told who? Adam, thoughts on this?

• 2:12:59Tom Ellsworth?

  So I remember we had this discussion about the auto pen and I was like, ah, what's the big deal? Stop it. Who's, who's top three is this in? It's not my top three, but I totally understand why it is in other people's top three. Because I'll pose a question for you. What's scarier and what's worse? Joe Biden actually running the government? And actually making the decisions? Or the shadow puppet like figures that were using the auto pen? I don't know what's worse. Is it, is it, do you want the dementia, cancer, old, senile man, forgetful, running the government? Making the decisions or do you want quote unquote, the grownups in the room making the decisions? It's kind of like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

• 2:13:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause we all heard these stories. It's Obama really, he's the shadow president. Trump's actually still somehow the commander in chief, right, Roseanne? Like whatever that was. Whether it was Anthony Blinken, whether it was Jake Sullivan, what other names did you hear? Now, uh, this Nira. Hand him or hand him as Tom likes to call her. Was it Ron Klain, the chief of staff? Who was actually making decisions? Who was actually signing these things? Was it the guy shaking hands with nonexistent dead people? Was it the guy facing the wrong way at the G7?

• 2:14:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Was it the guy who basically couldn't show up to a debate performance? And Trump goes, I don't even know what the hell this guy thinks he's talking about. I don't know if he knows what he's talking about. I don't. Or was it somebody else? Because either way you slice it, it's a messed up situation. You have an incapacitated dude as the president, or you have someone signing on his behalf. Pick your poison.

• 2:14:34Adam Sosnick?

  And Adam, you make a great point. Well, I mean, what's scarier is

• 2:14:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you, Vinny.

• 2:14:38Adam Sosnick?

  What's even scarier is a nation or Such love. Of electing a guy that they knew was like this because Trump was evil Hitler guy. That's even scarier. But I just saw this a little while ago before we started. Jill Biden's longtime aide, Anthony Bernal, which we saw him there, they were saying that he was secretly running the show allegedly from behind the thing.

• 2:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up Anthony Bernal's profile, please?

• 2:15:04Adam Sosnick?

  He is defying, this is by the way, this is from Oversight. This is from the Oversight Committee's X account. He's defying Congress and refusing to testify tomorrow about Joe Biden's cognitive decline after the White House waived his executive privilege. And so, yeah, that's Anthony Bernal refusing. This is the guy. He drowned, according to this, he drowned while paddle boarding on June 27th. What? I'm sorry, that's tomorrow. Sorry. Yeah, that's him. So.

• 2:15:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let's see what happens. See, I want to wrap up with this last story and then parents, when you, when you read this and you hear me say this, by the way, before we wrap up here, I didn't want to give this message here. On Tuesday, we know 4th of July is around the corner. We announced the new merch. This story, parents, you're going to get furious when I read the story to you, but before I do. We announced the Team USA merch on Tuesday. The numbered hats lasted a couple hours. Gone. This hat that we had, that Vinny's holding here, the USA flag, gone. Future looks bright. Gone. We have still a few of these USA hats to wear with future looks bright. The audience recognize the value tenders from now walking to each other. If you haven't yet placed in this black one, sick.

• 2:16:16Patrick Bet-David?

  This one's absolutely sick. You can order the hats and match it with the shirts. Together when 4th of July comes, sport this. Show people optimism that you believe the future looks bright. Represent the gear that Valuetainment logo. When people see, they recognize that it comes to each other and they talk to each other. Communities are finding each other. Whether you buy it for yourself, for your staff, for your teammates, for your parents, for your spouse, for your sons, for your kids, anybody, go to VTmerch.com and go on the US collection, place the order of the hats before they sell out. There's still some supplies left of the additional hats. Two of them I've already sold out. And match it with your shirt. And I think if you do, what was, what was, are we giving a mug with that? No. The Team USA 4th of July mug, as well as the USA Valuetainment keychain.

• 2:16:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So go place your order at VTmerch.com. Alright, let's go to this last story. Parents, you ready? You ready, parents? Take a deep breath. Wu-sa, because this is what the teachers union had just said. Teachers Union had gleefully declares that her union owns American children. This is from the Daily Caller. Chicago Teachers Union, CTU President Stacy Davis Gates, at a City Club Chicago event on Monday, quoted civil rights activist James Baldwin. Rob, do you have the video on this? Stating, I just want you to watch it for yourself and then we'll go through this. Go forward, Rob.

• 2:17:32Speaker 06

  CTU thinks your children are its children.

• 2:17:39Speaker 06

  Yes, we do. We do.

• 2:17:42Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my God. Wait, was that a joke?

• 2:17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. Is that the only clip you got, Rob? Because there's a couple of them. So she says, the children, yeah. So she says, the children are always ours. The children are always ours. Every single one of them, all over the globe, and responded to the hypothetical parental objections by saying, CTU thinks your children are its children. Yes, we do. We do what you just watched. And accused the president of weakening teachers' union, describing his education agenda as a retaliation of the civil war. Okay? And Gates criticized Trump's push to dismantle. Is this the other one, Rob?

• 2:18:22Adam Sosnick?

  It's a little bit longer.

• 2:18:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip. You have to see this, folks. This is Chicago's teachers' union. If you guys are looking for a recommendation of school, this is definitely not one of them. But go ahead, Rob.

• 2:18:30Speaker 06

  Unionist Kat Zamorin, one of the speakers at our November rally. She quotes brilliantly and perfectly American philosopher James Baldwin. Baldwin says, "The children are always ours." Always, always. Every single one of them, all over the globe. And what comes next is, "CTU thinks your children are its children."

• 2:19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, so pleasant.

• 2:19:05Speaker 06

  Yes, we do. We do.

• 2:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  They're getting a pause break.

• 2:19:11Speaker 06

  We do. CTU thinks our children belong to it, and their socialist conspiracy ideology. Unionist.

• 2:19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Gates criticized Trump's dismantling of the Department of Education and claimed that it attacks the civil rights movement while Chicago public schools struggles with the 2024 district reporting showing, ready for this, fewer than 1 in 3 elementary students reading at grade level and just 18% testing proficient in math. CTU's actions keep schools remote for the entire 2020-2021 school year, not returning until August of 2021, and led to a five-day closure in 2022 due to a walkout. Tom, thoughts on this story here? This is, once again, this is, where do I start? This is the failure of public schools in blue states and blue cities. Now, they're failing in a lot of other cities, too. But look at these test scores and look at these things.

• 2:20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, the walkout was a teacher's walkout. And so, they sure treat your children like crap for people that say, "Yeah, they're our children." This is, we do not have education in America. In the public school system, we have indoctrination. We just have to look at it like that. They're not there to educate and get your kids and your test scores to high level. That's what they're... to do it's outcome based education they're going to roll them forward grade grade grade and it is not their desire to put teachers into accountability everywhere else in america you have accountability starting with show up to work on time where the teachers do not have accountability

• 2:20:47Patrick Bet-David?

  they get tenure and they don't have to be good at what they do they don't have to reflect on this because the union ensures that they stay in place so let me tell you parents this is what you get and this is why homeschooling and vouchers are so important vote for vouchers get vouchers back on the ballot it says encourage homeschooling find people through churches and social groups that are bonding together to help homeschool kids the test scores are higher you control the outcome of your kids because this is what you get in the public school system and she is a caricature of the just what i feel is just the deleterious evil that exists there because

• 2:21:30Patrick Bet-David?

  to say we have your children and then they look at their own report card what they're turning your kids into how do they look in the camera with a straight face how does she go to chicago city club and give this this this this talk with a straight face when you she's looking at what's happened in chicago to these kids what are they turning out look at the look what's coming out of that factory look what's coming out of that factory

• 2:21:55Patrick Bet-David?

  not good is it that's it I could keep going I thought no I'm taking I'm taking a breath I was like Adam go for it he's not happy his pause was but go ahead well look this might be a controversial statement but I believe that the children are the future and if you teach them well you let them lead the way huh and that's how that works but here's let's let's break down the numbers you know commercial for Montessori skills what what percentage of teachers are male versus female in

• 2:22:24Tom Ellsworth?

  American public school system. Well, the answer is almost eighty twenty. So the vast majority of teachers who work in uh public school systems or in the teacher union are women. Now, if you take it a step further, what percentage of those are conservative versus liberal? Well, there's another eighty twenty split right there, and it's probably even worse. So the vast majority of the people that are teaching your children are liberal females. Now, we all know the stats about if a single mother raises a child versus a single father versus two parents in the home. Uh, when there's a single father, the the stats basically don't deviate from two parents being in the nuclear family. But if it's a single mother, know your suspected the single mothers out there. I know how tough it is.

• 2:23:08Tom Ellsworth?

  But your children turn out a lot worse. So now you get the indoctrination from a liberal female raising your children uh vocally, proudly. And then the last point is this, do you know what percentage of uh political donations uh from the uh

• 2:23:27Tom Ellsworth?

  from the teachers union go to Democrats versus Republicans? Ninety-four percent go to the Democrats.

• 2:23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait till I tell you when I just found out this lady.

• 2:23:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Over your children, and they're telling you to your face how they operate.

• 2:23:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me show you this, Rob. If you can go to her profile, okay? I wanted to see if she had kids, which she does. She's married with three kids. But watch this one here, folks. Rob, go all the way down, all the way down, all the way down, right there. No, no, not there, right there, personal life. In September twenty twenty-three, Davis Gates faced faced controversy after a website critical of the Chicago Teachers Union published her son's name, photo, and the name of the private high school. Which she is enrolled in. Critics highlighted her past statement criticizing school of choice initiatives, where Davis Gates highlighted her son's enrollment as representing a larger issue of disinvestment in public schools. Rob, can you click on number thirty-two? It's gonna take you to New York Post.

• 2:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Click on thirty-two and go to the New York Post article. Look at this. Teachers Union chief calls private schools fascist, but send her son to one. This is the hypocrisy of people like this. Go a little bit over. Racist uh to to call private schools fascist and racist, but turns out her son's goes to one. Has long bragged about how her children go to Chicago Public School, but she recently got outed as sending a son to prestigious private Catholic school on Chicago South Side, uh, Dela Cell Institute.

• 2:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Average tuition 15 grand a year, good for her as a mom choosing what's best for her boy, but this makes her rhetoric calling school choice actually the choice of racist and private school segregation academics utterly damning, go a little bit lower, uh, go a little bit, but she even, she even helped kill an Illinois program providing grants to underprivileged children for private school tuition, wow, when it ends in 2025 and some 9,000 kids will lose out on what she provides for her own son, that doesn't merely make her a hypocrite, it means she knows her rhetoric is untrue, but spouts it anyway in service to her powerful union, that is, she's demonizing others for power and profit, a hallmark of factual, actual fascist in most people's books.

• 2:25:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Amen, and this is why I'm talking about-

• 2:25:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that amazing, is that not amazing when you think about this here, I absolutely love when you get these types of stories, just like, uh, Mam Donnie earlier, these capitalists are the problem, hey, can you guys buy the merch- Hey, check out our merch! By the way, we are proud capitalists here, we proudly sell merch, we are not hiding, we proudly run Manek, we proudly hire people, we proudly, last Monday, our orientation, we hired 12 new employees, salary, benefits, all of it, we proudly are hiring people and growing, uh, we are not ashamed about it at all, and all these rhetoric stuff that people say, we're not embarrassed about it, we're very proud to be capitalists ourselves, is

• 2:26:24Patrick Bet-David?

  these other people that bash capitalism on the back end, they're true capitalists, they just don't want to publicize it, and they play with people's minds regularly, I just love that the story ended the way that it did, I didn't know about it until we went into it, and I said, let me find out what her real background is.

• 2:26:37Tom Ellsworth?

  You usually don't have to go far to find the hypocrisy there.

• 2:26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right, I agree, hey, uh, folks, again, go to VTmerch.com, place the order for the USA hats, as we're coming closer to the 4th of July, represent the shirt, put the clothes on, when you put them on, please tag us, put the pictures, we may even show some of them on the podcast, following, uh, uh, next week, but having said that, gang, we will not be doing a podcast, now here's the thing- We've been on three emergency podcasts the last four weeks because things been happening. Hopefully this weekend's gonna be a very peaceful, civil weekend where we don't have to do anything. But if something happens, we will. If not, there's no podcast that we're doing till next Tuesday. Between now and then, have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. And we may be going to a Yankees game this week. Perhaps.

• 2:27:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you're going to a Yankees game, look for us. We may be somewhere at a Yankees game this weekend. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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