Trump Declares Israel & Iran ‘COMPLETE CEASEFIRE’ After Qatar & Bahrain Strikes | PBD Podcast | 607

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick react to President Trump’s surprise announcement of a “complete and total ceasefire” between Israel and Iran, how Trump pulled it off, and the global implications moving forward. They also analyze reactions from world leaders, Iran’s next move, and whether the ceasefire will hold—or explode. Plus, what this means for oil markets, U. S. elections, and peace in the Middle East. ----- 🇺🇸 VT USA COLLECTION - https://bit.ly/4lekYIy 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:08Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 1:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, I think it's fair to say tensions are very high. President Trump, before we even get started, I want to play this clip for you. Rob, if you're ready. Here's what the president just said a few hours ago when being asked about ceasefire with Iran and Israel. Watch this here. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, I do. They violated, but Israel violated it too.

• 1:50Speaker 04

  Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land that was shot perhaps by mistake that didn't land.

• 2:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't want the minute one, I just wanted seven seconds, that's okay, he's gonna get to the end in a minute, I just wanted that one clip at the end.

• 2:24Speaker 04

  We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing, do you understand that?

• 2:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god. Pause, okay, so that's, that's what's going on there, okay, tensions are extremely high to the point where, can we check when is the last time a president on a national scale dropped the F-bomb, if you chat GPT right now, when is the last time a president dropped the F-bomb on TV, not like he got caught doing it, I'm talking like he knew he was doing it, he knew this was gonna get reported on, and he did say it, flat out, I don't know if, I've seen this many, many times, maybe it's happened, who knows, maybe...

• 3:02Speaker 05

  The last president dropped the F-bomb was Joe Biden in 2021 when a hot mic, a hot mic.

• 3:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not a hot mic, I'm not asking hot mic.

• 3:10Speaker 05

  Oh, Richard Nixon was called, again, off the tapes, I don't, he's, I think he's the first one.

• 3:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the first to say it live on camera, knowing what's going on.

• 3:17Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:18Patrick Bet-David?

  First time since 1776 a president dropped the F-bomb, intentionally knowing what's going on, that should tell you where the tensions are right now around the world, we got a lot of things to cover guys here on the story, of course Iran, Israel, a bunch of clips to show with that, the B2 flights, how it happened, what happened, the conversations, how they threw them off, the regime change tweet that came out from the president, Truth Social was down for an hour and a half after he put out the, what do you want to call it, Truth Social tweet that there's a ceasefire, the website was down for an hour and a half because of the amount of traffic that was going to the website, that tells you how many people are trying to follow this to see if this is gonna turn into anything bigger than it actually is, Iran launches missiles at US military base in Qatar, but doing so

• 4:02Patrick Bet-David?

  they warned them, they say, hey, we just want to let you know we're about to do this, but the Iranian leaders come out and they say, look, no matter what happens here, we are still seeking to enrich uranium, we are not slowing down, we are still seeking to enrich uranium as we're going through the process, so it's not like Iran is sitting there saying, okay... We're gonna play friendly, we're not gonna do anything. It's not like Israel is listening. Yesterday, when the president put the ceasefire, responded back saying, who's gonna listen to this? Did Ukraine and Russia listen to a ceasefire? You think Iran's gonna listen? You think Israel's gonna listen? They're not gonna listen to this, but if it does happen, this is a Nobel Peace Prize. We'll talk about that. And then US calls on China to prevent Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz and disrupting global oil flows. That's a problem for a lot of people, folks.

• 4:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Rubio said Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz would be massive escalation. Iranian government poised to shut Strait of Hormuz, closing off 20% of global oil and gas. This is the same exact reason why I was so vocal and concerned about what was gonna happen with Panama Canal. That is a deal we needed to close, cuz long term, no one's thinking about the Panama Canal right now. Cuz the real enemy of ours, the number one enemy of ours, is not necessarily Iran, or, you know, Russia, or any of these guys. It's China, and China has control right now Panama Canal. Long-term protection for us, for you to get your food, your supplies, the things that we need day to day to live our lives. We're gonna need Panama Canal, but this Hormuz is,

• 5:27Patrick Bet-David?

  some say, important for other reasons that could lead into war. So that's a conversation we'll have as well. World's reaction to US attacks on Iran in nuclear side. There's a mayoral race going on right now, Rob. I think it's in New York. It's today, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yes, sir. We will cover that. Putin says US strikes on Iran are pushing the world to very dangerous lines. US's Trump's big, beautiful bill gets slimmed down in Senate. Wall Street Journal's story, Adam's got some thoughts on that. US Army appoints Palantir Meta Open AI execs as lieutenant colonels. Little bit strange, but that's the direction I think they may be wanting to go. MAGA madman blames Tim Walz for his murderous rampage.

• 6:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That story itself doesn't make any sense on what's going on. Rob's got, Vinnie's got some stuff he wants to say about that. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinian meets Erdogan in Turkey on historical visit. I believe this is the first time that's ever happened. These are not two people that need to be getting along, and now they are getting along, at least having a meeting, which is a good start to have. The Iranian Reza Pahlavi comes out demanding Khomeini to pump the brakes and hey, I'm willing to forgive you and I want you to watch this for yourself and see if that sounds I have an idea on what I think Iran needs to be looking at this moving forward if there's an opportunity for regime change, which is what 81% of Iranians would like to see happen in Iran. And I'll show you some of the data that will cover that as

• 6:55Patrick Bet-David?

  well. Two CNN executives, both struggling network as anxiety soars over cost cutting after spinoff. Meta tries to buy this company. You ready for this? Ilya Suskevers, 32 billion dollar AI startup, but he wasn't willing to sell. But is now planning to hire its CEO, Meta. Tom's got a lot of thoughts on that. More than 1,000 Americans per day earn millionaire status in 2024. Federal Reserve split, starts to split on when to begin cutting US interest rates. Wait till you hear what Tom just shared with us this morning in breakfast, that he thinks Scott Besen is suggesting. That is absolutely insane and I freaking love the

• 7:39Patrick Bet-David?

  idea. You have to hear what Tom has to say about that. And then, new real estate math, half a million more sellers than buyers, according to Wall Street Journal. We got a few other stories on the addendum that just happened last 24 hours. Trump says he expects his Iran fire to last forever. The ceasefire, he believes it can last forever. Mamdani shoots up in the New York City poly market odds after surging ahead of Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, in poll. Supreme Court allows Trump to start swift, restart swift deportations of migrants away from their home. Trump slams Russia's Medvedev for claiming countries will give Iran Ukrainian warheads. And there's a few other things that we'll cover. 145

• 8:22Patrick Bet-David?

  people were pricked with syringes at France's music festival. What a weird situation there. 145, that's a Rolling Stones story that's coming out. So with all that said and done, there's a lot of things that we have to cover here today with you, but I got some good news I want to share with you guys for today. When it comes on to Especially with all the timing that we have going on. Look, if you ever wonder why we don't do sponsorships? Because our own companies are putting us in a position with the customers. I say this to you all the time. If you believe in a brand, go support it. If you love CNN, buy their stuff. If you love Fox, buy their stuff. If you love any other small media companies, support them because that's how they stay in business. So here's what ends up happening. You either take money from sponsorship, then your loyalty has to be to sponsors.

• 9:06Patrick Bet-David?

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• 9:47Patrick Bet-David?

  This one is sick for 4th of July. This is the kind of hat you would want to sport on 4th of July. I like the black one. And I like this one here. This one's not gonna last a long time. This is black and gold. USA is gold. Limited, limited? Look at this. USA is gold right there and it's numbered. This is limited edition out of 250 with the American flag on the side. Vitamint logo on the side and on the back it says Future Looks Bright. It's out of 250. You know what happens with these numbered ones? They don't last a long time. I think the last one lasted two hours and 45 minutes. They go in no time. If you like the limited supply stuff that we have, some people buying and putting on eBay and they flip them. We can't stop them from doing that.

• 10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you don't buy, you can only get these on eBay. But those of you that love our limited supply material that we have, go buy this. They have a shirt that goes with it as well, Rob. If you can go on the shirt one that we have right there, the gold shirt. Can you click on it real quick so we can zoom in? Look at that. USA Golden. And on the back it says Future Looks Bright. And then go to the hat as well so we can see some of the pictures of the hat, Rob. Do we have a video on this or no? I don't think we have a video on it. Maybe we do, maybe we don't. Look at this. These are all numbered. Keep going, keep going, keep going. And Rob- Yeah, look at that stitching. Glitter and everything, this is awesome. Anyways, go to VTmerch.com to place your order. Is that a new shirt as well for 4th of July? This is a new shirt that's been coming out. I don't know if we have that on the website or not, but I'm sure when we do, we'll market that as well.

• 11:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, go to VTmerch.com, place your order. Let's get right into it. Okay. So, a few things here. Uh, last time we did podcast was what? Saturday? We did podcast, emergency podcast, and you have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. So, right afterwards, the president comes out and says that a, a, a discussion about regime change. I don't know if you saw this, Rob, if you have the clip. He starts talking about regime change. There's nothing wrong with regime change. Trump floats Iran's regime change even as the true impact of US strikes is far from clear. Here's what he says, let me read this to you, and then, Rob, if you can pull up the clip from Reza Pahlavi,

• 11:53Patrick Bet-David?

  when he comes out and posts a video about what he wants to be doing, this is it. It's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? Mega. Make Iran great again? It doesn't sound as good as MAGA. I'm willing to bet sometimes if you say it, YouTube may even flag and give you a strike because it sounds like a different word. So, it's M as mom, I as India, G A. Make Iran great again. While these talks were happening, so now everybody fears. Everyone's saying, oh my god, what's gonna be happening? So, on one end, Khamenei is sitting there saying, all of a sudden, if I'm older, if I don't know what to do,

• 12:38Patrick Bet-David?

  he puts out a tweet, Rob, if you can go to Twitter, if you don't mind, I know I directed you this way, but if you can go to Twitter, go to my Twitter account if you could. There's a tweet that he puts up, go back one if you could, right there. So, he tweets out and says, "Those who know the Iranian people," zoom in a little bit specifically on his tweet, zoom in a little bit on Davonia. "Those who know the Iranian people and their history..."

• 13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Know that the Iranian nation isn't a nation that surrenders, okay? So he's trying to inspire seventeen point two million views, exciting stuff. Oh, my God, we're not going to back down from nobody. And then if you go back one, then uh uh no, go there you go. And then I repeat his tweet and I say those who know the Iranian people and their history, know that you robbed ninety five billion from the people, their network, family network. If you can go validate this in a minute, we will. Mass executed five thousand political prisoners in nineteen eighty eight, tortured whistleblowers, therefore over eighty one percent of Iranians reject your regime. Now, a lot of people on the bottom put Grok and say, is this true? So Rob, if you can go down on the bottom on the comment section, just click on the tweet and go on the comment section.

• 13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody that says Grok is this true or not, go on the first one, okay? Go on the first one, Grok will respond. Can you provide comment? No, go but go but can you provide con uh? So this is not a guy that's a supporter of what I'm doing, right? He doesn't like the fact that I'm in business. That indicates eighty one percent of Iranians in Iran reject the regime. The eighty one percent figure likely comes from a twenty twenty one Gammian survey where eighty one percent of one hundred and fifty eight thousand respondents in Iran rejected the Islamic Republic. Weird. Okay, when you're hearing that. So now, Rob, if you can go back, do me a favor. Copy paste. So that's a yes. That's a yes. Copy paste. Can you go back to my tweet, Rob? No, the one that I put.

• 14:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Copy paste that and go and put that in chat GPT if you could. Just go put that in chat GPT. Is this true? Okay. And type in, is this true? Is this true? Okay, put that in there. And let's see what it says here. Okay. Statement, mass executions nineteen eighty eight, true. After a fatwa by Ayatollah Khomeini in nineteen eighty eight, Iranian authorities executed between twenty eight hundred to five thousand political prisoners, mostly members of the leftist or opposition group, without due legal process. Okay, let's see if the ninety five billion dollars is correct. Can you go a little bit lower to see if the ninety five billion? The ninety five billion, Rob, the ninety five billion figure is estimated, total assets controlled by the Supreme Leader Network, Satah,

• 15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  amassed by the family, while many view this misappropriation. This is an article by Reuters, Reuters that said this. And then Chad GPT says eighty one percent. So while this is going on, Khomeini comes out and he says, well, we got to figure out a way. For us to have a solution. So what does he do? He's already trying to name his successor. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip for the successor. It's on page eight. Iran's supreme leader reportedly names potential successors in the event that he dies. Is this the one, Rob?

• 15:41Speaker 06

  Yes, this is a news clip talking about some of the potential successors.

• 15:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Play this clip. ...in leadership is swiftly making preparations for a wide range of outcomes. This comes as US President Donald Trump announced that the country's military carried out attacks on three Iranian nuclear sites. Reports suggest Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has instructed his nation's assembly of experts, the clerical body responsible for appointing- How long is this video, Rob?

• 16:06Speaker 06

  Two minutes.

• 16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, stop it, Rob. We can pause it right there. One of the guys he is talking about is his own son. So if you can go online and type in Khamenei's son successor. Khamenei's son successor. If you type that, you'll see now they want to keep it within the family. Nepotism, which, you know, it's nothing that they don't do in other countries. So I'm not going to sit there and say they're the only ones that are doing it. But he's talking about possibly his own son replacing him. Now, right there. Khamenei picks possible successor amid war. Son, he names three people. Zoom in a little bit. Son, Majedoune not among them. Go a little bit lower, Rob, if you could. One of the names that was coming up-

• 16:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Some clerical Islamic Revolution Guard Corps rumor to be- This is one of them. There's other articles that are saying he's wanting his son to replace him. Here's the reality of it. While this is going on, Reza Pahlavi comes out and puts out this video. If you have Reza Pahlavi's video, here's what he puts out. Because this is what 7% of Iranians would like to see him go back to Iran. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 17:09Speaker 06

  ...that I am establishing a formal channel for military, security, and police personnel to reach out directly to me, my team, and our expanding operation. This is a secure platform to efficiently manage the growing volume of inbound-

• 17:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Which speech is this, Rob?

• 17:31Speaker 06

  This is where he calls for the Ayatollah to step down. ...and seeking to join our movement. For those patriotic members of our armed forces, the time is now to join the nation. If you do, I will make sure your service to Iran is not forgotten and is celebrated.

• 17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not the one, Rob. There's another one where he just straight up gets up there and says, can we, if you are willing to step down now, there's a, I mean, you just have to go to his channel.

• 18:08Speaker 05

  Going after Khomeini, because you know what that's basically saying? Hey, I'm gonna open up a channel. All you, anybody that wants to get away from Khomeini, any colonels, any, anybody in the military, whatever, I'm gonna open up a channel, come to me, which is kind of like dangerous, because who knows who the hell is gonna be coming over there to maybe even sabotage him, which that, even that statement alone sounded like, you know,

• 18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounded like that.

• 18:32Speaker 05

  Somebody else, it sounded very robotic.

• 18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought Fox had a 45 second clip. It's a 45 second clip. I'll find it. Tom, you keep going. So your thoughts on this, I'm gonna find this clip and send it to Rob. Go for it. Tom. Well, what I think is, this is not definitive, right? You're coming out and saying, I think it's time for you to step down. I think it's time for you to step down. It's like my dad saying, I think it's time for you to clean your room. That's weak. It should be a full-throated response and it says, you have outlasted your evil. You've been able to be here this long. You should be out of here. The people of Iran need a leader, and that leader is me, and I'm gonna do A, B, C. It's like, make America great again. They said, what do you mean, make America great again? I mean, jobs down here, inflation comes down, jobs come back, economic prosperity goes up.

• 19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  It was very fast. Where is he? You know what I mean? Normally leaders that, like Trump that came back, have like 1, 2, 3, or 1, 2. This is what we're gonna do. Here's what he said. And he kind of meanders a little bit on me. Here's what he said. I just want you to watch this and the main thing when you see something like this is, does Khomeini take this seriously? Do Iranians take this seriously? Does the world take this seriously? Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

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• 20:40Speaker 04

  So today, I have a direct message for Ali Khamenei. Step down, and if you do, you will receive a fair trial and due process of law. Which is more than you have ever given any Iranian.

• 21:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 21:01Speaker 05

  Can I get?

• 21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 21:02Speaker 05

  I don't, me coming from an up pat. Oh, my, my mic just went. I don't believe.

• 21:07Patrick Bet-David?

  We hear you.

• 21:07Speaker 05

  You, you understand? I don't believe, like, first of all, if you're speaking to somebody like that, I just directly say like you've planned it. He doesn't look like he even prepared, and I don't believe, I don't believe that threat. I don't believe it.

• 21:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so when you, when you, when you hear that, you see that. Adam, what are your thoughts when you're seeing what's going on right now with Iran? You know, regime change. The president said there's a possibility of regime change. A lot of people are saying, well, this was all planned. They, they knew this was gonna happen. This is exactly what they wanted to do. It's not like it's a, it's the picture, perfect playbook. First you do this, then you do that, then you deflect, then it's regime change. Then you place someone there who is your candidate to place in Iran to bring back, you know, et cetera, et cetera. And you make the second calling of the puppet and all this other stuff. So Rob, if you can, I'm gonna send you a clip of what Rudy Giuliani said about Reza Palavi that I want to respond to that as well. But Adam, your thoughts on this before we, before I share some of my thoughts?

• 22:02Speaker 04

  So everyone's on the internet talking. Everyone's talking about what's going on. Let's start with first principles. What is the most logical explanation of what is happening? First and foremost, I would argue that more than anything, the Iranian people want to be free. So you just gave a stat that what 81% of people want to do away with the Ayatollah? That might be incredibly low. How many protesters do you see around the world calling for the death of the Iranian regime? Everyone says online, this war is not against the people of Iran, it's against the IRGC. How many times have you used, heard those acronyms?

• 22:42Speaker 04

  In my opinion, this is going to be the second and the final Ayatollah to run Iran. This gentleman is 86 years old, 86 years young. He's almost as old as Tom, his birthday is, joking Tom. But I don't know how much longer he's going to be with us. There's no indication that if and when a new supreme leader is called to the catapult, that the Iranian people will accept it. In my opinion, this is the last and final Ayatollah to run Iran.

• 23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, very interesting to say something like that. Here's what Rudy Giuliani said. Rudy Giuliani yesterday comes out and says the following. Now, here's the thing, it's, if you think about it, when is the last time you heard us even say anything about Giuliani? It's been very quiet. It's not been something that we've talked about. It's not been something that, you know, we, we, you know, he's not been on the radar for too long. Rob, if you're on his exes, it's the one, okay, perfect. Here's our pal, he is the son of the Shah, who was a brutal, hated dictator. He offers nothing but a return to his father's corrupted dictatorship. For decades, the Savak, his father's secret police persecuted, tortured and murdered Iranians. Rob, can you go on his ex, please?

• 24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly what he's saying there, because I want to see the commentary of what people are saying under Rudy Giuliani's. Here's the reality of it. People sit there on the left, right, and center are critical of Reza Pahlavi's father, you know, of what he did. And you just go to the comment section right there, Rob. I'd like to see what some of the people are saying to this tweet here. And yet, despite all that, was still infinitely better than the current regime. True, keep going lower. I don't know if this would come kind of, but I've never heard him diss a wazzaq, which makes me suspicious. Why would we even be commenting on this? The Iranian people should pick who is best to lead them, and hopefully they make the right choice. Interesting take, but then who? When the regime falls, it is best replaced with a preferable leader.

• 24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Instead of doing a government project like this in Iraq. He was not hated. Please just stop. You go down to comment section, a lot of people don't agree with them. The father, King Reza Pahlavi, changed the entire thing in Iran. It was a completely different situation what he did in Iran. Having said that, this is the one thing I want everybody to be thinking about. If we are talking about a regime change in Iran, let's just say you do want to have a regime change in Iran. What would work? What would be the right way to go about this? You know, I could come out with a 20-point plan on what we could do to change Iran in a heartbeat. Wouldn't be a challenge. I think the way to look at it, and if the Iranian people are watching this, is the following.

• 25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the son of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, is a kind man, is a nice man, is a smart man. He could be a historian because he knows the history very well. He speaks English, he speaks farce fluently, French fluently. He can do an interview in French and fluently have a conversation with anybody that wants to talk to him in French. He has that element in place. However, what the biggest challenge, I'm getting hit up left and right from Iranian influencers around the world, and this is what they're asking me. Pat, this is another opportunity. Isn't this great? It looks like he's gonna come back and he's gonna do this and he's gonna do that. Here's the biggest problem that Iranians have, and you're not gonna like me saying this, you know, I'm talking straight to all the Iranian people around the world,

• 26:10Patrick Bet-David?

  that love and support Reza Pahlavi as much as I love him and his family and what they did for Iran. This is not a number one person. He's not. It's the same thing I said about DeSantis. DeSantis is very good for his state. He's a phenomenal governor. We proudly live in Florida. But he's not a Trump. There is Trump, then there's DeSantis. DeSantis later on could develop into something like that, but we need a Trump. Reza Pahlavi has had 46 years to do something for Iran to go back to being free. Hasn't happened. Forty-six years. Every five to 10 years Iranians have had a chance to topple the current regime. Hasn't happened. Every five to 10 years you've had an opportunity. Hasn't happened.

• 26:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't teach tough leadership. If it was all about knowing the history, having the right last name, if it was all about speaking different languages, every day new professor would be the leader of some kind of a country. That's not how this works. Tough leadership requires for somebody, when you look at the camera, you deliver a message for somebody to believe him. People believe Reagan. People believe when Putin speaks. People believe when Trump speaks. People believe when certain leaders speak. You believe them when they speak. There's a certain level of conviction that you want to do. Your eyes don't lie. The way Iran ought to look at this moving forward is in the following way. Iran needs to cut everything up and be a startup. Look at it as a startup.

• 27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Bring in new founding fathers who helped write a new constitution that Iran is built on. That's what the mindset needs to be. And those individuals, I think he needs to be one of the founding fathers of the new movement of Iran. That could be a Benjamin Rush. If you know the history of Iran, history of US founding fathers, Benjamin Rush, a lot of people would say was the man when it came down to becoming one of the founding fathers. The man was brilliant. He knew the history. He had such a strong background. He played a role. He may have been the smartest guy in the room. A lot of people could have said. Never became a president, but you go ask the founding fathers what role he played. He played a very important role. Who became the president? George Washington became the president. What other founding fathers did I become president? Tom, if I'm not mistaken, the first three were all founding fathers, right?

• 28:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Thomas Jefferson's number three. I think Adams is two. Washington is one, right? And you you start going, you're like, OK, there's that history there. If Iran's gonna go through this. You need brains for economy, you need brains for military, you need brains for history, you need brains for law. You need brains on how to write a constitution, you need brains for. How to put certain law and order in place where. Things change, you need brains on how to re fix the educational system, you need brains. You need all of those things to go out there, we need somebody at the top as a leader to make it happen. I know the Iranian people don't want to hear this, and they keep saying things like this, they'll say the following, Vinny. They'll say stuff like, what's the alternative? What's the alternative? Go find them, wake them up, bring somebody from Iran. Wake them up, bring someone that you support.

• 29:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever the values and principles are, maybe it's somebody when Khomeini was living in France. They went and brought Khomeini from France to Iran. Khomeini wasn't living in Iran. Khomeini was in France for fifteen years. They brought him back and they said, we think you're the guy that needs to be the leader here. But there needs to be somebody that can close the deal. Let me explain what I mean by closing the deal. President Trump. Twenty twenty four. How many people? You think could have handled? What they did to him in twenty twenty three. E. Jean Carroll. All the, your property is now worth two hundred fifteen million, fifty million dollars. It's an eighteen million dollar property, Mar-a-Lago. That was sold for twenty million dollars like sixty years ago. You know, no, you know, give or take, whatever the timeline is.

• 29:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That he had to go through that every day he's at court, they're embarrassing him. Letitia James. The other lady that, you know, when they asked the question, did you have sexual affairs with this woman? And what does he say? Let me think about it. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, no, do you remember that all? Yeah, yeah. Every day they're trying to mock him. Who do you think could have closed the deal? Outside of him. Who else? You think Reza Pahlavi is gonna be able to close the deal? Like, close the deal. Sweet man, smart man, needs to be part of the transition, need to be one of the founding fathers. If Iran does go through the next thing. But if he is. Who he claims he is? He needs to be in a room with fifty other strong influencers to be able to make this happen collectively. That needs to take place.

• 30:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Some of the people that have connections to many different countries, many different industries, that leadership, that needs to happen. If it doesn't happen, every ten years, you're gonna be like, "Oh, we're making a comeback. Oh, we're making a comeback. Oh, he's eighty-four years old, it's too late." Now what? Now Khomeini's and Khomeini's have all these decades of being able to control Iran into whatever it is today. But to me, the biggest thing Iran needs right now is a closer. I'm not convinced he's a closer to close the deal. Stop being so romantic about your candidates. There is these fantasies people have with their candidates. "Oh, my God, you know, it's gonna be so great." RFK, romanticize, because we're gonna have another John F. Kennedy. No, but he played a very important role with his job that he has under Trump right now. So I think there's a very important role he plays.

• 31:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not convinced he's the guy that's gonna be closing the deal. So for all the Iranian people that are hoping for regime change, hey, you don't have a lot of time. The window's gonna close like this. When do you think there's gonna be another opportunity like this? I am forty-six years old. I've been outside of Iran since nineteen eighty-nine. That's how many years? Thirty-six years. This is the closest Iran's ever gotten since nineteen eighty-nine for regime change. Let me say this again, Iranian people. Since nineteen eighty-nine, when we left Germany, when we left Iran, went to Germany out of refugee camp, and we came here on November twenty, nineteen ninety, from that day till today, there's never been a time more closer than today for Iranian people who want a regime change. They want Ruolo Khomeini and others to leave.

• 32:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You've never, ever been closer than you are today. What you do with it is truly on you. I would love for the people to choose somebody like you're hearing all this stuff, but the reality of it is you need a closer. Someone that's gonna close a deal. I'm not convinced RP is a closer. Tom, thoughts?

• 32:19Speaker 04

  I think you're exactly right. In the United States, you romanticize this. There were people, you know, I used to go to RNC meetings and go...

• 32:27Speaker 05

  You know, check in on things and then talk to people that had influence. But I always used to just select individual leaders that I was gonna support and, and, and look at it from that way. And everybody was talking themselves into believing Jeb Bush is a guy. Here we are, another Jeb Bush. Oh, look, he's got diversity in his family. Look at his wife, look at everything like this. And it was like, wait a minute, this guy's uninspiring, number one. And number two, what's his plan? What does he passionately want to do? There was nothing there. But man, the Republican Party, this would be a layup, would have all the support of

• 32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred and forty million dollars they won.

• 33:00Speaker 05

  A hundred and forty million dollars. That's how many people got into the room together and, and, and had, you know, brown water and, and talked themselves into believing that Jeb was their guy. This happens all the time in government where the, the successor is not the guy. And I just think right now they're just, they're just, he, he's, he's trying to force it a little bit. He doesn't feel like he's at the microphone with his own passion and desire. It feels like he's under a kind of obligation and duty. And if you're just there under obligation and duty, that is not what it's gonna take in the middle of what's going on, on the world stage. You've got an opportunity, you know, they used to criticize the United States for a thing that they said, oh, you're just out there nation building, but it's really the

• 33:43Speaker 05

  CIA, the United Fruit Company, terrorizing around Central America, overthrowing, you know, perfectly legitimate democratic governments. And, but, there was other people that talked about nation building. The nation building was about enabling, enabling was supporting, nation building. This is an opportunity for Iran to come back in a democratic way. Not that there's not warts there, not that there's not things going on there. This is an opportunity for Iran to come back. And, and just, just

• 34:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I say something?

• 34:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, go for it.

• 34:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you said something yesterday that was very important. You ever seen the movie Alexander the Great with Angelina, is Angelina Jolie in that movie?

• 34:19Speaker 05

  Uh, Colin Farrell's in it?

• 34:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Colin Farrell, but who's the mother of Angelina Jolie? Who's the mother of Angelina Jolie? In that movie, Alexander, Rob? Who is it? Yeah, Angelina Jolie was the mother of Alexander the Great. I was right. So, so there is this fantasy with a son to outdo, like, you know? Yeah, but in this case, Angelina, the mother, Olympias, you know, had a fallen out with Alexander's father, right? There was a big falling out there. So she wanted her son to do what? To outdo?

• 34:50Speaker 05

  The father.

• 34:50Patrick Bet-David?

  The father.

• 34:51Speaker 05

  Because now she's like, I've divorced your father, I have nothing to do with him. The best revenge would be you with my Blood on my side of the family to outdo it.

• 34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Mothers want their sons to do very well. And there's an element of mothers that if the father and the son had a feud that I don't believe in you, get your act to get serious. Mothers want the son to prove a point to the father that the son was better, not in a bad way. It's in a very natural, loving way, right? But sometimes the son privately is like, Mom, don't give me that pressure. I don't want this job. Who are the only two athletes you said in baseball that did better than their fathers?

• 35:25Speaker 05

  That did that love the game and set world breaking statistics? Ken Griffey Jr. And Barry Bonds.

• 35:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what both of them had in common? Love of the game.

• 35:35Speaker 05

  They love.

• 35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if there's a love of the game here.

• 35:37Speaker 05

  And like, I don't, I'm not that versed on all this, but I mean, we've met the guy, we've hung out with the guy. With something like this, as a leader, you cannot be on the fence. You have to not only want to do it, Pat, it's a must do it. And I just don't feel that vibe because then you mentioned something about time wise. How long do you think the United States and Israel is going to give them? Because if you think about it, their Khomeini could easily with Mossad and us and our intelligence, he could have been dead a while ago. When Trump made that post where he's like, hey, we know where you are and we could take you out when they're giving the Iranian people grace to figure this out, but the clock is ticking. I just don't think my Vincent O'Shaughnessy opinion,

• 36:17Speaker 05

  that's not the guy, but the Iranian people, they gotta step up because Adam, what did you guys say? 81% of the people are pro the regime change, but 20% doesn't, that's of 92 million. That's almost 20 million. That's 18.4 million people are still like, no, this guy, this Khomeini guy is who we, who we want, but it has to happen like, they gotta step up.

• 36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So while this is going on, the president comes out and says he's a brokered a deal of ceasefire. Rob, if you can go to the tweet. So he puts out a tweet saying, we have brokered a ceasefire. Congratulations to everyone. It has been fully agreed by and between Iran and Israel, and there will be a complete and total ceasefire in approximately six hours from now. When Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions. For 12 hours, at which point the war will be considered ended. Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire and upon the 12th hour, Israel will start the ceasefire and upon the 24th hour, an official end to the 24 war. 12 day war will be saluted by the world during which ceasefire the other side. He writes some wrong tweets, by the way.

• 37:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Remain peaceful and respectful on the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will. I would like to congratulate both countries, Iran and Israel, on having the stamina, courage, and intelligence to end what should be called the 12 day war. This is a war that would have gone on four years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't and never will. God bless. It never will. What is it? And never will. God bless Israel. I don't think there's a period. Oh, there is. There's exclamation. God bless Israel. God bless Iran. God bless the Middle East and God bless the United States of America and God bless the world. Rob, can you go to my tweet Twitter account? So I retweet this and this is what I put up there. I put up right at the top of it, I say, which side actually believes the other side will

• 38:10Patrick Bet-David?

  honor the ceasefire? Did Ukraine or Russia ever stick to theirs? Nope. If both Iran and Israel fully honor this deal, Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. But the key word is what? If. So that's that. Then all of a sudden, what do we hear? Bombing from both sides. Okay? Then what happens? Rob, if you go up, this is president's most recent tweet with the video that comes out. Just go to the short. This is a conversation that's being had about neither side keeping the commitment that President Trump, for the first time in the history of America, a president intentionally while on live TV, not, it was caught, not a hot mic, drops an F-bomb. It happened today.

• 38:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine how pissed off a president has to be to drop an F-bomb, but that's exactly what the president did today. Go for it, Rob.

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• 39:57Speaker 01

  That have been fighting so long and so hard

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that?

• 40:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about that. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 40:08Speaker 04

  So you're looking at a president who just had a massive win when he tuned out all the noise and focused on the signal and did what needed to be done to eliminate the nuclear threat. You're also looking at a president who's basically saying, "I need more wins." And he's been talking about eliminating the war with Russia and Ukraine. He's been talking about ending the war between Israel and Hamas. And now he has this amazing opportunity to end this war in 12 days. Perfect marketing, the 12-day war between Israel and Iran. And there's only one little thing that got into the in between him and this war ending.

• 40:53Speaker 04

  And that's, uh, these two sides necessarily don't want to end this war. So when he's talking about ending this war, he's talking about America's involvement in this war. In his tweet, it was very interesting. He said, "I brokered a deal between Israel and Iran." Does anybody out there believe that Iran wants to stop globalizing the Intifada? At the same time, does anybody believe that Bibi Netanyahu, at this point, when Iran is on the brink of disaster, at the brink of falling apart, wants to take his foot off their throat? I don't even know what the terms of this peace agreement were. But if I'm a betting man, I don't think this holds.

• 41:35Speaker 04

  Major respect to Trump for eliminating the nuclear sites. I just don't know if this peace agreement is gonna last 12 more hours.

• 41:43Speaker 05

  Well, Pat, can I say one thing, though? For Trump to go out there on the White House lawn before 8 a.m. and say that these two, Iran and Israel, don't know what the F they're doing. Like, he's trying to make that peace, and he's trying to make it stop. And the analogy is, Iran and Israel, after he's talked about this, he tweeted it, are like two kids where you say, alright, guys, as of noon, lunchtime, no more fighting. Okay, but at 11:59, you both start punching each other in the face as much as you can, because you know you have a little window. It's childish, okay? It's childish. When you have a freaking deal, both of them need to stop. Both people need to stop. Israel's at fault, and Iran's at fault, especially when the guy's trying to end it, when he's trying to end it.

• 42:28Speaker 05

  So they're both at fault, and I mean, you make a good point. They both obviously want, you know, to keep it going. That's what, dude, one bombs one, the other one fights back. But there are reports as well, by the way, I looked it up. Like, there's actually no real public evidence that the US actually did the damage, Tom, on these, on the bombs. How much, Tom, how much money was the operation and all the bombs that were dropped? Well, they say it was $2 billion of transport and bombs, something like that, 2 billion? Yeah, and there were satellite images, Rob, of days before of, because, I mean, we warned them, we gave them a heads up, a bunch of trucks and a bunch of convoys showing up, doing whatever, grabbing whatever, and then leaving. And that these buster bunkers didn't even actually hit what they were supposed to hit. So that's another.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  Can I add one more thing? And then, Pat, I want to ask you a question. You know, you can tell a lot about a regime or leadership, not by the way they treat other countries, but by the way that they treat their own people and the approval ratings within their own country. Every country has war with another country. Russia and Ukraine, Pakistan, India, China, Japan. Every country's gonna have enemies, every country's gonna have war. But how do you treat your own people? I would argue that the Israeli people have been never been so happy with Bibi Netanyahu than the day that he took out these nuclear threats from Iran, especially when America got involved.

• 43:52Speaker 04

  Now Bibi Netanyahu, don't forget this, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. His approval ratings, which you can actually track, are somewhere in the 30 to 40 percent. In the last week, they've skyrocketed like a missile out of Gaza into the 70, 80 percent. That's how excited the people of Israel are with what Netanyahu is doing. At the same time, we just talked about on the low end, the people of Iran view the Ayatollah with 80 percent dislike and disdain. So if there's anybody in Israel advocating to step on Iran's throat, it's the people of Israel.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  At the same time, it's the people of Iran also cheering on Bibi Netanyahu, also cheering on the IDF to bring down the IRGC. There's a big difference between how the people domestically view their leaders, and it ain't close.

• 44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, while you're saying there, there's a number comes out, story comes out yesterday about Tel Aviv shares hit record highs after US strikes Iran nuclear sites. If you go look at the stock market in Israel, it's on fire on what it's doing. There's also stories about, Adam, which you just said right there, about Iranians on the streets with American flags. Rob, I don't know if you have this video or not, there's video of Iranian protesters waving down with the USA flags on streets of Tehran as president joins in. Do you have that clip, Rob?

• 45:25Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  It's on page seven, there's a clip about this. Let me, let me read the story while Rob pulls this up. Pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, there you go. Iranians waving American flags with slogans that have taken to the streets. So there's multiple of them, they can find. So a lot of Iranians that want this thing to be taking place, the regime change to be taking place. But I'll say this to you, Adam, on this whole ceasefire between the two, in this case, Iran and Israel, who is more to blame for not following the ceasefire? If you ask me, my opinion, it's Israel. Why? We're not doing a favor for Iran.

• 46:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You came asking President. President is in a tough situation. He knows the political party that got him elected. There's, there's an element of it that you call, you can call it a woke right and all this stuff that a lot of these folks now are in the same room agreeing with Ilhan Omar. They're now in the same room agreeing with, with, with people that, what was that Rob? Okay, no, no, you can pause it, you can pause it. There's these people that are agreeing with those, with those folks, but they're kind of like, you know, uh, uh, how did I end up in a room like this where I'm agreeing with these people? I would have never agreed with these types of people, right? But in this case, with all the pressures being, Netanyahu makes the call because he knows he can't get the job done. And they know if they want to do anything with those three nuclear sites, you need

• 46:47Patrick Bet-David?

  US's help. The President agrees to do it, knowing there's gonna be a lot of backlash, but he focused on Signal and says, okay, Israel, you're a bigger ally to us than Iran. Then they do it and then you do this and you don't listen to the ceasefire? I mean, I don't blame him for losing his shit and, you know, straight up calling them out on what they're doing. I think there's even another clip here. Uh, who's he calling this out in this video, Rob? I believe, I believe he's calling out CNN in this clip. Yeah, this is a different clip on the same exact setting when he's having that interview where he drops the F-bomb. This is him talking to CNN, go for it.

• 47:22Speaker 06

  That place is demolished. The B-2 pilots did their job. They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They hit, uh, late in the evening, it was dark with no moon, and they hit that target with every one of those things and that place is gone. But when I see CNN all night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought. It was demolished and you take a look at the pinpricks and you see, that place is gone. And I will say, I think CNN ought to apologize to the pilots of the B-2s. I think that MSDNC ought to apologize. I think these guys really, these networks and these, uh, cable networks are real losers. You really are, you're real losers.

• 48:10Speaker 06

  You're gutless losers. I say that to CNN because I want...

• 48:13Speaker 05

  I have no choice, I gotta watch that garbage, it's all garbage, it's all fake news. But I think CNN is a gutless group of people, and the people that run it, nobody even knows it's been sold so many times, but the people that run it ought to be ashamed. MSDNC, a guy named Brian Roberts, he heads it. He's a disgrace, he's a weak pathetic disgrace. He was on fire today.

• 48:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he's sick of it, because to him, here's the part that he's in, okay? There are people right now that see this as an opportunity to... Guy asked me a question this morning, okay? He booked a call, we're having a 15-minute call together on Manect, I don't know when it is, but he books a call. And I've been having the weirdest Manects. By the way, for those of you guys that know what's going on with Manect, we're doing our annual contest on Manect, where we're going to dinner at Casa di Angelo. It's a contest that started from June 1st that goes till July 31st. And there's different categories for contests, I'm gonna tell you what this phone call is and what this conversation was about, you have to really hear about this. Because I think, everybody watching this, you have to hear this.

• 49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is the contest we ran to go, you come down to Florida, we take you out to Casa di Angelo, afterwards we go, we have dinner together, conversations, I'm gonna be there, Tom's gonna be there, Vinny's gonna be there, Adam's gonna be there. And then we go afterwards to the cigar lounge, and we stay till midnight talking about ideas, future, politics, it's the best podcast. It's the best, because we all sit there and just talk, it's such a great experience when we do this, phenomenal experience when we do this. And if you want to find out more about the contest, put the link below Rob, in the comment section as well, in the description. You go to manect.com, then go to the top and type in Leaders Bulletin, the video's there. Criteria, as you know, can we see where people are at for the competition, where their rankings are, by categories? Tommy Robinson. Wow, Tommy Robinson's number one at 300, he's completed 123 Manects. Holy moly.

• 50:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Dean Mason, good for Dean Mason, Konstantin Korbov, third place. Contest ended today, it would be those three names that would be coming down to have dinner and go to the cigar lounge. Patricia would be placed, and it's Mary, Scott Booley, Giancarlo, Giancarlo. Got a shout out today, my man. Hello Giancarlo. And then if you go to middleweight, let's see where middleweight's at, John Mason's at the top, then it's Larry up... Larry Broughton, DJ Shipley, DJ Shipley, wow, holy shit, DJ Shipley, Navy SEAL Team 10. James Murphy, former F-15 pilot, then you got a few other names there, Amy, Brad Lee's on that list, Terrance Howard's on that list. Go to the heavyweight one, let's see where heavyweights at, Sappala's at the top, then it's Daniel, Cap, Michael Mara, a few other names, let's see the super heavyweight. Look at the super heavyweight, Vinnie is about to break a record, 362 completed a man X.

• 50:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Timothy Ryan, Lindy Lee. I wouldn't even make the contest if it ended today, holy shit. I wouldn't, I would be outside knocking over there some Vinnie, let me in.

• 50:55Speaker 05

  But we'll show up and buy dinner.

• 50:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Then it's myself, Tom, Adam, other people that are on that category. And if you go to users, Rob, can you go to users, because users get to compete as well on where they're at. Look at the, for new, we got Zach, can't see it from there, Rob, the last name.

• 51:07Speaker 05

  Zach Abraham, uh, Zach Zerlock.

• 51:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Kereluk, Abraham Peretta, Tariq, Chadid, Andy Hill, and then go to heavyweights to see where the heavyweights are. Existing, it's the, oh, Dorothy took over.

• 51:19Speaker 05

  There's my girl.

• 51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow.

• 51:21Speaker 05

  Dorothy and Zeus.

• 51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Timothy Ryan, Konstantin, Eric Branch. Anyways, those are you guys that are not experts. If you're an expert, compete, we're gonna have a good time. If you're not an expert, any, for every 10 man X, you ask someone, you ask the question. We will do a raffle and we'll pick up one or two names to come join us as well. Uh, but you can go to the contest to visit it. And by the way, here's something I wanted to put for you guys today. It's Tom's birthday today. So if you kind of love, uh, Tommy was birthday yesterday, if you kind of love Tom Ellsworth, send him a birthday wish right there on a man X.

• 51:49Speaker 04

  We love you, Tom.

• 51:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Wish him a happy birthday. And Vinnie is on track for breaking his record, send him a man X. And Adam is, uh, is, uh, is looking forward to a lot of the love from folks from the Islamic community, Muslim community, if you guys want to befriend him, send him some messages there as well. But this is where I was going, guy asked me a question.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  I love you guys.

• 52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, when he says that, he sincerely says that, he's not joking with you guys. He actually gets along with everybody. Uh, when you're out there with Adam, Adam doesn't have a hard time getting along with people. But here's what I wanted to tell you.

• 52:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The question becomes on my neck. Taylor the Grant asked me a question. Who do you listen to? Who do you believe? Where do you go to? Who's right? Who's wrong? What is the real way of who to listen to in a market like this? Vinny, think about that.

• 52:34Speaker 05

  Great, great question.

• 52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, who do you listen to? Tom, who do you, who does the average person listen to? And for me, it really put me in a position to want to answer the question. This is where I go to, okay?

• 52:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I put all the names across the board because this is how I led when we were building an insurance company. Everybody would call me and bitch about somebody. Do you know what he just did? Do you know what she just did? Do you know what they did? And it's going, okay, great. Then when there would be a crisis in the company, people would come to my office and they would say, do you know what this person said? Do you know what that person said? Do you know this, this is a crisis? There's a problem. There's this, there's that. For me, it was very simple. It came down to the following. I watched you on your bias. I put everybody on, that person's bias is this because I had a following out with that company. That person's bias is this because I got a bad business deal. That person's bias is this, that guy's from Iran. That person's bias, he's from Israel, he's Jewish. That person's bias is this. So I put the biases there.

• 53:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And that person's America first. That person's America only. I put all the biases there. Then I don't try to change your bias. I understand your bias. Why would I try to change your bias? You've lived your life. Who the hell am I to try to like, but when you see people on Twitter, you're, you're wrong. Yeah, people have a bias. Everybody, Trump has a bias. Trump is biased, Netanyahu is biased, Khamenei is biased. Everyone is biased. Hello. We all are, including you. We think you walk on water. Some of the people that, you know, they look at a, you know what's the second thing I look at? Track record of being able to reason different issues and being fair. So I look at your bias, set it aside. I don't try to change it. Track record of being able to reason. Second, to see who I'm listening to.

• 54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Three, do you have a track record of being fair? Four, how often have you been right? That's the process I go through. So today, when you watch the president, imagine how much shit he's hearing. And he still says, no, we're attacking. Nope, this is what we're doing. Nope, that's what I'm going to be doing. Nope. And quite frankly, I don't give a shit if you agree or disagree. And you threaten to leave the party and tell everybody to impeach and all that. I don't care. This is what I'm doing. Fortunately and unfortunately, I'll give you the both sides. Most people don't have a backbone like that. Most people will break, trust me. Most people would break under similar circumstances. This man didn't.

• 55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  He led. And he's going around pushing his agenda that he had in place of America first. And if you have a problem with that, totally get it. You have biases though. For me, when people say, why is Patrick so much? Do you know it's not from war from 1941 to 1977? I'm something, really? Let me tell you, a guy asked me a question, a Muslim guy asked me a question, I'm a neck. Okay, Rob, I'm gonna text this to you. And folks, do me a favor and please go copy paste this and ask this on Grok. Ask this on, uh, what do you call it? What's the other one? Ask this on Grok. Ask this on Chat GPT. Ask this on every single platform you can to verify it. Rob, I just texted it to you.

• 55:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Put it up there and do me a favor, put it in chat. Don't even put it in chat. Actually, you can put it in chat. I want everybody to go copy paste this and go to Chat GPT and Grok and read it for yourself. We're living in Iran. Iran is doing its thing. You can be a Christian, Muslim, Shias, whatever you want to be. Communist, do whatever you want to be. We had, my mother's family were communists. They were happily living in Iran and they were going on, they were communists. Today party was in Iran, okay? All of these things that was taking place. And then all of a sudden, a man named Khomeini comes back to Iran and things change. Now, whatever religion you are, when you type in on Chat GPT or Google or Grok,

• 56:30Patrick Bet-David?

  who are the top 510 most influential figures in the Islamic religion?

• 56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you will always find one name in that community. That's one of the top 10 most influential. His name is Khomeini, okay? Khomeini comes and takes over. A lot of people mess up the name. Even yesterday, I'm talking to my wife. What's the difference between Khomeini and Khomeini? One letter. One is Khomeini, the other one is Khomeini. It's like Johnson and Jensen. Okay, you know, why would you do Johnson and Jensen? It's Khomeini Khomeini, okay? And it's very easy name to pronounce, right? Khomeini Khomeini. Like when you pronounce it, you have a sore throat afterwards. That's what happens to many of us Iranians. That's why our throat is stronger than many of the average Americans. So watch us here. Top influential leaders, Islamist. What do you see on number three? Khomeini.

• 57:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Let the 1979 Iranian revolution establish a first modern Islamic theocracy. Here's a book that he wrote in the 60s. You wonder why so many family people who have kids, who have a hard time, who want that structure to change? I sent this copy paste to Rob. Rob, can I ask? Can I read the question to everybody that I sent to you? Go to chat GPT. This is the question. I want everybody that's watching this, go fact check this. Did Ayatollah Rollo Khomeini write a religious legal manual in the 1960s called the Tahrir al-Wasilah? Often offered to in the West as the little green book? Did he say in that book, a man can marry a girl younger than nine years old?

• 58:01Patrick Bet-David?

  However, he is not permitted to have vaginal intercourse with her until she reaches nine. But other sexual pleasures, such as touching with lust, embracing and placing the penis between the thighs are not forbidden. You go put that in there and verify that. Look what it says. Yes, Ayatollah Khomeini did write a religious book this. And what's in it? It is a manual of Islamic, covering topics on personal conduct, rituals and politics, et cetera, et cetera. Go a little bit lower to see the controversial quote. The quote, that's widely cited passage from the book, generally translated, a man can marry a girl younger than nine years old. However, is not. To have vaginal intercourse with her until she reaches age nine, but other sexual pleasures such as touching with lust and braising.

• 58:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This passage does appear in the book. Go a little bit lower, Rob. It does appear in the book. Now, you can go back, go check it, read all of it. Please bring the camera back to me. So for some of you that say, "You are a puppet of this. You are a puppet of that. You are a Mossad Zionist, all this stuff that people make the claims that they do." No, no. I am against a man marrying a girl under the age of nine. I am against talking about it's okay to have vaginal intercourse with a kid at nine years old. I'm against that. And by the way, something tells me you are as well. Something tells me you are as well, that's watching this. So for some of us, "Well, that's not..." I just told you, he is one of the top 5-10 most influential people

• 59:31Patrick Bet-David?

  in the world in Iran. You say something like that, do you not think the average person that's not even religious, what percentage of people do you know of any that are not even religious? They're just trying to live a good life. So forget about it for a second. "I don't believe in God," let you say. "I had a problem with God." Imagine one of the faces of that religion just wrote that in a book. Why would you read that book? What would you say? Would you go like, "Oh, like meditation." "Oh, interesting. So I can marry somebody under the age of nine." "And then put the penis under the thighs." "All right, very normal. Let me go to the next chapter." That's weird! No matter what you believe in. You know who also says this is weird? Parents, fathers, mothers, siblings. I read this to my sons yesterday. They're like, "What is he talking about? My sister just turned nine." Exactly!

• 1:00:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you realize why the average Iranian sitting there saying, "I just want this religion out of the freaking picture." And I said, "But that's not everybody. It doesn't need to be everybody. Most Muslims I've met, I'm good with, but I've met some extremists." Let me tell you, in Iran, in Germany, here in the military, I met them many, many different places. The reason why a lot of people want that to change is because Khomeini follows Khomeini's guidelines. And Khomeini was more influential than Khomeini. This is why a lot of Iranians want that to change. And a lot of people around the world who are having these people. Right now, there's a story that came out that there's 1,500 to 2,000 Iranians that came to US illegally. Did you guys see this? I didn't. Did you see this report, Rob? Tom, did you see this story?

• 1:01:01Patrick Bet-David?

  There's about fifteen hundred to two thousand Iranians that may have crossed the border illegally that made it out here. Guess what? A lot of people are worried. I'll find this link and send it over to you. A lot of people worry about what's going on. That's just not the way the average person wants to live their lives.

• 1:01:14Speaker 05

  Can I say one thing? I mean, that's, that's, you know what the saddest thing is, Tom? That's not shocking, because where do you think Khomeini got that from? That type of attitude and that type of mentality is their prophet Mohammed. Okay, let's just, let's just call it for what it is. He got married to Ayesha, okay, when she was six, and then they consummated the marriage, which it became physical at nine. This isn't like he came out of it from nowhere. You should see the freaking arguments and the, I'm talking about back and forths for days about people going, yeah, but this was the time. This was, and I go, listen to me, there's a difference between my God, my Jesus Christ, and your God. Never, I don't care what time it is, I don't give a damn what period of time,

• 1:01:58Speaker 05

  doing something with a six or a nine-year-old, you're gonna convince me, Vincent O'Shaughnessy, that it is right. There's no timeframe, there's no, well, everybody was doing it, it's a bullshit argument, okay? And that's just one side of it, okay? And then there's the extremists. We're killing innocent people for your God means you're gonna go somewhere with seventy-two virgins, and that's your, that's your price for, your reward for martyrdom. No, no, it's a shitty shitty argument. By the way, I criticize the other side. And Adam, everybody knows this, I could criticize Israel, I could criticize the leadership, but that type of doctrine, that child, and that's, and everybody knows this, Pat, that's,

• 1:02:40Speaker 05

  remember we talk about the sword that I'll die on? You know where I'm at, especially with this. I don't give a shit if it's here, I don't give a shit if it's there, it's wrong. And you cannot convince me that that's good, I don't care what time, and that's the attitude of the leader of this country, that's how he thinks, period. I don't agree with it at all.

• 1:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so obviously this is a very, Adam, you look like you want to say something.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, I think ironically it's gonna be the one Jewish guy that kind of gives a little sense of nuance here, because as much as I agree with what you're saying, I think we just need to understand there's a big difference between being a Muslim and being an Islamist. Just like there's a big difference between being a Persian and being a Iranian IRGC advocate, or being a Christian and a televangelist, or being Jewish and a Zionist. But what you're saying makes a lot of sense and it makes, uh, it makes me wonder, what are the gays of Gaza movement? What are these progressive jihadists? Have they heard any of this?

• 1:03:42Speaker 04

  Because if they've heard this, that means they're willfully and vocally advocating for everything you just read. So we talk about the gays and the grooming. I always will come back to this whole gays for Gaza, progressive jihadist inconvenient marriage makes no sense to me. But now it makes a little bit more sense, especially if you're able to groom kids based on a doctrine. Very weird and not everybody signs up for this. So be careful what you're purchasing. That's my only thoughts.

• 1:04:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And by the way, what you just said, a lot of people said that was the time, that was 600.

• 1:04:17Speaker 04

  I don't give a shit.

• 1:04:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What Khomeini wrote was only 60 years ago.

• 1:04:20Speaker 04

  Six zero.

• 1:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  60 years ago.

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not talking about 400 years ago.

• 1:04:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:25Patrick Bet-David?

  That's 1960s.

• 1:04:26Speaker 04

  He's not changing at all.

• 1:04:28Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, this is not a, this is not a new thing. So.

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  And it's not like it ended when he wrote the book. There's still living this.

• 1:04:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So let's go to the next one here. This has to do with business and Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here. US calls on China to prevent Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz and disrupting global oil flows. Now Iran government poised to shut it down, closing off 20% of global oil and gas. And this is what Rubio had to say about this. Go for it, Rob. No way we were leaving that for future generations.

• 1:05:00Speaker 03

  The secretary, final question here. Do you expect Iran to move to close the Strait of Hormuz to try to disrupt oil transportation across the world?

• 1:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I encourage the Chinese government in Beijing to call them about that because they heavily depend on the Straits of Hormuz for their oil. If they do that, it'll be another terrible mistake. It's economic suicide for them if they do it. And we retain options to deal with that, but other countries should be looking at that as well. It would hurt other countries' economies a lot worse than ours. It would be, I think, a massive escalation that would merit a response, not just by us, but from others. So.

• 1:05:37Speaker 05

  Look, they're gonna, they're gonna say what they need to say. You know, these are the things that need to happen for their own internal politics and so forth. But in the end, we're gonna judge them by the actions that they take moving forward. We had three objectives. We struck those three objectives with decisive force. And that was the point of this mission. And that's what we achieved. What happens next will depend on what they do. They want to negotiate, we're ready to negotiate. They want to get cute and do things that are dangerous? We have responses available that are devastating.

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• 1:07:11Speaker 05

  No, we don't have any evidence that the Chinese were involved in it.

• 1:07:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts on this? So as well, Iran's largest trading partner is China on an import-export basis. They go back and forth and they've been, and China has been trying to develop this relationship because for, China's got a lot of people and a lot of land, but not a lot of energy resources. And they need energy partners, which is why they turned to the north, to Russia for natural gas. And this is why they were in the, um, in... With Iran trying to build this and they have a very intricate economic relationship. And Rubio very astutely says, hey, it's not like we're calling China. Hey buddy, you're a big country in the world too. Could you call Iran and just let them know? No, it's like, hey, China, you know, you need their energy.

• 1:07:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You need stuff like this. When they close that port, the first country that gets impacted outside of Iran themselves, who stops getting economic, you know, stops getting money and stops part of their own economy is you, dude. So why don't you call them? And this is, you're calling me while you're negotiating with me and you're kicking me in the balls and you're trying to get us to do this deal, a trade deal. Hey dude, what we talk with you is what we talk with you about. I'm saying it's in your best interest to call Iran and tell them not to close the streets here because you need the oil too. And so Rubio is very astutely pointing out that, you know, suddenly there's a question that has to be asked of China, which is, you know what? This hurts you. What are you going to do about it?

• 1:08:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Because this is a global problem. This is not a Middle East problem. So you know what this does though, Tom? What do you have here, Rob, with J D Vance? This is also J D Vance speaking about the Strait of Hormuz closure and the effects. Go for it.

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  Iran disrupts shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, which of course handles about a quarter of the world's oil trade. Would that be a red line for the United States, Mr. Vice President?

• 1:09:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Kristen, I think our biggest red line is the Iranian nuclear weapons program. That is really what the president has said we need to get rid of.

• 1:09:17Speaker 03

  But what about the Strait of Hormuz?

• 1:09:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Steps towards doing that last night. Well, I think that would be suicidal, Kristen, for the Iranians themselves. I mean, their entire economy runs through the Strait of Hormuz. If they wanted to destroy their own economy and cause disruptions in the world, I think that would be their decision. But why would they do that? I don't think it matters.

• 1:09:35Speaker 03

  makes any sense. I don't think that it makes sense for them or for anybody else. What would make sense is for them to come to the negotiating table to actually give up their nuclear weapons program over the long term. And again, if they're willing to do that, they're going to find a willing partner in the United States of America.

• 1:09:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So you know, you know what this this brings to a conversation of Adam, were you going to say something about this?

• 1:09:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know, when you talk about economic suicide doing this, does anybody believe Iran at all at this point? You know, when you know Iran is lying, or when the Ayatollah is lying, or the IRG is lying, when their lips are moving. At what point are their words and their threats going to be taken seriously? Oh, tomorrow's the day. You wait and see. Everyone's gonna get it. I swear. Nothing, nothing comes from these people. All they do is talk. They can't even fight their own wars. Everything they do is a proxy. These people have been talking about death to America, death to Israel, death to the great Satan. They're crumbling. They have no credibility at this point.

• 1:10:41Speaker 04

  So now they're going to turn off their own economic lifeline to do what? It makes no sense to me. They're a backwards way of thinking and none of their threats come to fruition. So, and you're also seeing China, didn't, didn't China call Islam or Islam extremism? A mental disorder? Correct me if I'm wrong. Did the CCP not say that?

• 1:11:05Speaker 05

  They shut down a bunch, they closed on a bunch of mosques too, didn't they, Adam, in, in China?

• 1:11:10Speaker 04

  Number two, you're, you're starting to see Russia turn its back on Iran. One of the main stories in the Wall Street Journal is how Putin has now turned a cold shoulder onto Iran. Quote unquote, Russia is not as good of a friend or ally as it pretends to be with Iran. Putin often turns his back on his autocratic friends when they need him. So with friends like these, who needs enemies? I don't see anybody coming to Iran's defense, including Qatar, who's number two on the list of state sponsored terrorism or terrorism advocacy. Iran does nothing but make threats, even when they bombed the military site in Qatar,

• 1:11:53Speaker 04

  they gave them a heads up, only to save face. They're basically like, look, I know you kicked the living crap out of me, but I at least gotta show some resolve and some strength. So move all your assets out of there Qatar, while I bomb and give you a heads up while I'm doing it. Does anybody think the people that running the country of Iran have any credibility at this point? So my answer is no.

• 1:12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you chat GPT this real quick, what Adam just said, did China call Islam a mental disorder? I want to make sure we address that because we've, we've heard it on many different stories that we have read about, but I just want to fact check this here because that's a, that's a big statement. Zoom in a little bit if you could, Rob. Uh, let's see what it says. I'm looking at some, oh.

• 1:12:40Speaker 05

  A check in China related statements.

• 1:12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  2019 signals, I'm sure.

• 1:12:43Speaker 04

  And also Google, they have reeducation camps.

• 1:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I've not seen a research like that, that is coming up. That's very weird what chat GPT is doing. Maybe you just offended chat GPT. Rob, today you may want to be careful when you drive home to see, because it's, it's, uh, it's not happy with you.

• 1:13:00Speaker 04

  But it's no secret what's going on with the Uighurs in China. That's not a secret. They're all in reeducation camps curing them from Islam. So.

• 1:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, here we go. Yes, the Chinese government has in fact portrayed Islam, especially amongst Uighurs in Xinjiang, not merely as a religion, but as form of mental illness or ideological disease that requires treatment or cure. The Chinese really said that. According to Al Jazeera, Beijing has described Islam as a mental illness that needs to be cured with its reeducation camp aimed at Uighur Muslims. The Atlantic reports that Chinese authorities liken their camps to hospitals, treaty religions, extremism as a psychological condition to be remedied. Uh, detailed summary in New York Magazine, "Intelligencer Explains That Islam Was Officially Framed By Chinese Officials As Infectious Ideological Illness Cleansed From Their Brain." Additional human rights, wow, pretty, pretty.

• 1:13:53Speaker 05

  And just add to that.

• 1:13:54Speaker 04

  And this is the biggest backer of Iran? Correct me if I'm wrong. The CCP is the biggest funder of the IRGC and Ayatollah.

• 1:14:04Speaker 05

  And Adam, I just.

• 1:14:05Speaker 04

  Circle that square for me, how when they call your entire religion doctrine a mental disorder, yet you're following their lead? Make that make sense to me.

• 1:14:15Speaker 05

  And Adam, just, I had to fact check myself, because I said that they destroyed, China destroyed mosque. Yes, the Chinese government has destroyed, or repurposed hundreds of mosques, especially in Xinjiang, where the majority of the Uger Muslim population lives. In 2019, The Guardian and Bellicat revealed that over 30% of mosques in Xinjiang were damaged or destroyed, and they're saying why? It's because Chinese campaign of religious and cultural suppression particularly targeted Muslims under the guise of counterterrorism and anti-extremism. So that's what China's doing.

• 1:14:45Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know, you know what this.

• 1:14:47Speaker 04

  China has no state religion, so.

• 1:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know what this makes me think about? Here's what it makes me think about. I watch everyone's arguments, and I try to see how deep the argument can go, because this is how arguments and ideas work. You first pitch an idea, or you make an argument, and if you're very convincing, what does the other side do? Maybe they believe you because of how convincing you deliver your message.

• 1:15:09Speaker 05

  Your conviction.

• 1:15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Conviction is needed, so you're like, okay, you're a good salesperson, I got it. But then, you watch somebody push you back on your idea, and then that person making arguments, like, okay, let's see what you're gonna say now. And then you make an argument, like, oh, that was actually pretty good. And then, and then all of a sudden, boom, your argument starts breaking.

• 1:15:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And breaking, and breaking, and breaking. The argument, argument of American only versus America first, kind of what we're talking about yesterday, right? America only versus America first. Do you know why that argument eventually loses the America only? If you're America only, you can't get involved in Strait of Hormuz.

• 1:15:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to try to generate that on your own. It because now if there's a war there, you're like, no, no, no, we're America only. We're not going to get involved. You kind of have to because your people are relying on you to make good decisions to get the oil that we need, whatever the the. Yeah, if you're America only. If you don't have like for me, I think we have 800 military bases around the around the world. That's a lot that we have. Now, if you don't do it, the enemy will do it. If the enemy does it and the enemy gets more influence. Then when it comes down to having leverage and time to do the things you want to do. Then all of a sudden, what happens? You don't have any control. If you're America only, it almost the people that say America only.

• 1:16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  There's an element of them that they're solopreneurs, Tom. You know what I mean by solopreneur? Totally. You talk to a solo, like in PHB, I had insurance agents that were just producers. And they couldn't stand building an agency. You know why? Because what does building an agency require you to be able to do? Focus, work, determination, follow the playbook. Stay with the program. What is the most annoying thing about building an agency? Having to lose people and recruit people at the same time. Simplify, Tom. What is the most annoying thing about the about getting married and having kids? What's the most annoying thing about building a company? What is the most annoying thing about building a team? What is the most annoying thing? About playing football where you're dealing with 52 players versus being a tennis player? All personalities.

• 1:17:19Patrick Bet-David?

  People in relationships. It's not turnkey. Number one, human beings are annoying. Rob, by the way, all of us are annoying to some. I guarantee you, I'm annoying to a lot of people. I guarantee you, Vinny, as funny as you are. I'm annoying as shit. I get it. I guarantee you're annoying. The only person on this set that is not annoying to anybody, it's Adam. Adam doesn't annoy anybody. He's the only guy. Not one person. He's the most non-annoying person I've met. So but you know what it is?

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  It's hard being perfect, Phoebe. I get it.

• 1:17:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, none of us, we, most of us don't walk on water like you. But you're getting used to it. Yeah, but but you know what? The whole thing about America only versus America first. A solopreneur is sick and tired of managing employees because it's hard. It sucks.

• 1:18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  A solopreneur that they try to run a business like, you know, Bill Maher, fifteen million dollars raised to say, "We're gonna build a podcast agency." Then they do it. "Oh, I hate this shit." Why? Drama, drama, drama. My producer doesn't work. Where are the notes? How come you don't have this? They do it better. They do this and they do that. Shut the whole thing down. This thing sucks. I don't wanna work with anybody. No shit. It's hard. So that's why it's like, podcaster only, solopreneur. I'm just gonna do myself. It's not possible for you to have a America-only mindset. Like, you know what's the best story about the America-only argument? Check this out. One of the most important business meetings in the last hundred years in America.

• 1:18:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This has probably gotta be in the top ten meetings in the last hundred years. And Tom, let me see if you're gonna see where I'm going with this. You ready?

• 1:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are two of the most influential founders in the history of business the last fifty years?

• 1:19:01Speaker 05

  Gates and Jobs.

• 1:19:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Gates and Jobs.

• 1:19:03Speaker 05

  To be on my list.

• 1:19:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Gates and Jobs. Do you know who was more competitive between the two? Some will say Jobs. Gates was pretty competitive. But do you know what ends up happening? One day, Apple is about to go out of business. And Steve Jobs holds a meeting. And if you've never seen this, it's so powerful. Rob, if you can find it, it's awesome to watch. Jobs gets up on stage. Who is Apple-only?

• 1:19:27Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He hates Microsoft passionately. He gets up on stage and he says, "For the longest time at Apple, we thought, in order for Apple to win, Microsoft must lose." And he says, "But the reality of it is, that's not the right way of thinking."

• 1:19:45Patrick Bet-David?

  When Apple's about to go out of business, guess who gives Apple money?

• 1:19:48Speaker 05

  Microsoft?

• 1:19:49Patrick Bet-David?

  How much money do they give him? I think it's like three hundred million dollars, give or take.

• 1:19:53Speaker 05

  Real money.

• 1:19:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Real money. Microsoft gives Steve Jobs three hundred million dollars.

• 1:19:59Speaker 05

  Just to have a competitor?

• 1:20:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Apple is about to shut it down. They were going through a terrible season. The computers weren't selling. They're going through a very rough time.

• 1:20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So. An Apple-only company mindset decides to team up with the enemy.

• 1:20:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:20:17Patrick Bet-David?

  They raised the money. You know what Microsoft worth today? You know what Apple is worth today? I think both of them are worth.

• 1:20:22Speaker 05

  Apple's the biggest though, right?

• 1:20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I think both Apple and Microsoft are worth three trillion dollars today. People that worked at Apple made millions of dollars, some made billions of dollars. Tim Cook is officially a billionaire. A lot of people that worked at Microsoft, many made millions, many made billions. Ballmer now is as rich as Steve, as rich as, what do you call it?

• 1:20:42Speaker 05

  Gates?

• 1:20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Gates is. The mindset of America only is limited. It's just hard to do when your country is this big. It's very hard to do. Yeah, look at, look at this market cap is which one, Rob?

• 1:20:55Speaker 05

  Uh, this is Microsoft.

• 1:20:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Three point six, three trillion dollars. And what was Apple? Three trillion dollars.

• 1:21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Three trillion dollars. The idea of being able to work together, they brought six trillion, six and a half trillion dollars of money to American people, people around the world. That's why American only is limited on the argument. It hits a wall eventually. If that concept doesn't work in marriage, if that concept, we're gonna do it ourselves. We don't need anybody's help. Dude, then you're not gonna have date nights. You need a babysitter. No, we don't need nobody's help. You do. No, we're gonna do this company by ourselves. You need to hire people.

• 1:21:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Can't do it all by yourself. So every time you see like straight of Hormuz, all this, we need to negotiate, we need to negotiate that. It shows, do you think America needs Iran to be working with them on straight of Hormuz to not shut it down and destroy?

• 1:21:39Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:21:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else needs them? China, who else needs them?

• 1:21:41Speaker 05

  Russia, everybody.

• 1:21:42Patrick Bet-David?

  That, that, that instance right there tells you America only is out. It's America first that works, not America only. My opinion. Uh, my opinion. Okay, let's go to the next story here. New York today.

• 1:21:53Speaker 04

  Can I say why I agree with you just real quick?

• 1:21:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Adam.

• 1:21:56Speaker 04

  Because you know, they say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? No, not necessarily. And by the way, what happens in the Middle East does not stay in the Middle East. We're now in a global economic, uh. Contingency where everything is integrated. So oil, you know, for everyone who thinks that the oil is going to be basically dead. Yeah, tell that to Saudi Aramco that I think has a $2 trillion market cap. Only company in the world in the top 10 that's not United States. Global shipping, trade, supply chain, oil, oil, oil, oil. Everything is going to affect the American markets, everything. So for the people that want to live like an ostrich and pretend, oh, no, let's not get involved.

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  Let's not get involved, be the libertarians of America. Where's Dave Smith's argument at this point? It's very limited in scope because anybody that's a true actor realizes America has to lead. Because if we get out of the Middle East, if we get out of Taiwan, who's going to fill that vacuum? I'll ask you. Russia's going to step in, China's going to step in, and all these bad actors are going to fill that vacuum. I'd rather have American hegemony over the rest of the world than China or Russia or Iran any day. So fully agree with you on the America first versus America only.

• 1:23:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's limited. It's a noble argument. Trust me, it's a very noble argument. Everybody that's saying it, I understand they're coming from a very, very noble place. Let me take care of my family, my job. Michael Jackson's song is what? If you want to make the world better, what does it say?

• 1:23:25Speaker 04

  Take a look at yourself and make a change.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Make a change, right? So I get it. I understand that. I understand that. Yeah, I mean, right there. But, but, but at the same time, unfortunately, if you want to make a change. Pass the propofol. Yeah, we're going to go.

• 1:23:41Speaker 04

  When a, when a plane is falling, you don't put on the air mask first and only. You put it on first and then.

• 1:23:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, thank you so much, Adam, for your help with that because, you know, we, I love it. Well, that's why we need Adam in our lives to give us input like that. You're amazing.

• 1:23:57Speaker 04

  Some of us don't fly private PBD, so we got to remember those instructions.

• 1:24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, with all the AIPAC, with all the AIPAC money you're getting from Israel, we all know how you travel. You drive.

• 1:24:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Let's say it's my house AIPAC. Right now, there's six zero checks. They're sending it to the office. But I'll take the money all day, every day.

• 1:24:15Patrick Bet-David?

  According to.

• 1:24:15Speaker 04

  I just haven't received any.

• 1:24:16Patrick Bet-David?

  According to some people, Adam's got some real money we don't know about.

• 1:24:19Speaker 04

  I wish I did, guys. I did it on camera.

• 1:24:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Alright, okay, so let's go to, let's go to what's going on in New York today. New York, folks, is a bit of a shitshow right now with this election that they got going on for the mayoral. Yeah, it is so wild. Rob, do you have the video? This is, I want to read this to you before I go to this. What, what page is the candidate on about New York's mayoral candidate? Rob, if you can't give it to me, I'll go to it. I don't know why I can't find it. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.

• 1:24:47Speaker 04

  That is under.

• 1:24:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I know I marked it off.

• 1:24:50Speaker 04

  You know what? That's addendum. I'm sorry.

• 1:24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll go to addendum. Alright, so check this out, folks. So, Mamdani shoots up a New York City Polymarket odds after surging ahead of Andrew Cuomo in poll. This is USA Today. I'm gonna read this and I want you to watch a clip of him. Zohran Mamdani, a 33-year-old second-term Assembly member, briefly surpassed former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo as a frontrunner New York City Democratic mayoral primary on June 23rd, according to Polymarket, a cryptocurrency-based prediction market headquartered in New York City. The June 23rd, uh, the June 23rd Emerson College polling, uh, market headquartered in New York City. The June 23rd survey showed Cuomo with 35% support in the first round, followed by Mamdani 32%.

• 1:25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  With Mamdani now with 52% to 48% after eight rounds of ranked choice voting. The Emerson poll conducted June 18th through 20th with over 830 likely early voters, had a 3.3% margin of error marked a significant shift as the most previous poll showed Cuomo leading by 10 points. Rob, here's a clip. Oh, that's, that's the Polymarket?

• 1:25:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoa.

• 1:25:55Speaker 04

  Yahtzee.

• 1:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Cuomo had a massive lead and then all of a sudden, boom. How much of that do you think the end has to do with Israel-Iran war right now that's taking place? Obviously, that's the only thing that would make that dramatic of a shift. Can you play a clip of this guy to see how he views the economy? I think there's a video of him breaking down what he would do to the supermarkets in New York. And tell me if you recognize this, other countries that have tried this and if it's worked or not. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:26:19Speaker 05

  Grocery prices are out of control. The cost of eggs and milk has skyrocketed. Some stores are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over the course of a day, depending on what they can get away with. It doesn't need to be this way. I'm Zohran Mamdani, and as mayor, I will create a network of city-owned grocery stores. It's like a public option for produce. We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets to city-owned grocery stores, whose mission is Lower prices, not price gouging. These stores will operate without a profit motive, or having to pay property taxes or rent, and will pass on those savings to you.

• 1:26:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, Tom, economically, does that make any sense to you? Man.

• 1:26:58Speaker 04

  No, and what's happening over with Zoran? And by the way, you know, he is so easy. The unfortunate thing about his last name is it quickly becomes mad man, mad Manny. So we have this mad Manny, and he is basically saying all saying socialist. In the space of three weeks, he said, no GPAs. Yeah, I'm gonna change public high schools. We're gonna own grocery stores, and we're gonna fill them. Ask the people in the Soviet Union how that worked out. The shelves were never full. Things didn't work. The five-year plan for crops didn't work. It didn't work. Now he wants to bring that in New York? Oh, so we're gonna run state-owned, city-owned supermarkets?

• 1:27:42Speaker 04

  That's gonna change the price of an apple that's being sold by the farmer? No, it doesn't. Inflation changes that. Diesel fuel to ship for that truck to drive the apples around changes that. So he's doing that, and he keeps going down the list. But guess what? There's a bunch of people who are behind it. And so New Yorkers have to decide what they want. And by the way, the reason Cuomo looks so good? It's like if you ever watched the Miss USA, and they bring out the women in alphabetical order, and for 31 seconds, Miss Afghanistan is the most beautiful woman on the stage, because she's the only woman on the stage. And that's what happened to Cuomo. He was the only woman on the stage. And now, there's an alternative out there, and New Yorkers are actually, some of them are choosing

• 1:28:27Speaker 04

  a psychopathic liberal spouting socialist Marxist ideology on one side, and on the other side, they're rejecting a politician returning to the ring with some baggage, with some COVID baggage, you gotta say it, it's there, and choosing to get back in the ring as mayor of New York, but with people surveyed believing he doesn't want to be mayor long-term. He really has other aspirations. He wants to get back in the bigger ring. And so that's what's going on here, but Zorin mad man. This is good Lord, New Yorkers. You, you, you, in the last election, you shifted more than you ever have. And now you're turning back to this free stuff.

• 1:29:09Speaker 04

  Take away merit based high schools, take away GPAs, state run stores. None of that ends well. And we've got 65 years of socialist Marxist experiments around the world to see it. But you know what? If they vote for it, I guess they deserve it.

• 1:29:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Any thoughts?

• 1:29:26Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, first of all, could we just take a second? Besides Los Angeles, Tom, New York, what? Can we just point out that this is the democratic leadership? Like they cannot, they don't, the pool of people for them to vote on is absolutely ridiculous. Okay. First, like you said, Tom, a disgrace, ex governor who wiped out, almost wiped out single handedly the nursing home population in New York during COVID. I'm not afraid to say it, Tom, I'll say it. Um, you got, you know, Eric Adams, who begged, remember? Begged for illegals to come there, make it a sanctuary city. And then he cried foul when they showed up. And then all of a sudden he's flipping and now he sounds more Republican than everything. And he's under investigation from the FBI. Uh, so New York, just from the jump is.

• 1:30:10Speaker 04

  You make a good point about they don't, usually don't have a lot of choices. They have usually, it's usually like a scale. It goes from guano to fertilizer to manure to horse shit. All of it wrapped in bullshit.

• 1:30:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:30:21Speaker 04

  And ladies and gentlemen, the Democrat primary.

• 1:30:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:30:25Speaker 05

  But here's my question, Tom, I don't want to laugh about it. When are the, when are they going to wake up? When are you going to get it? And like this guy's a radical Marxist. Okay, he has Islamic like supremacist, uh, background. All right. And imagine telling the families of nine 11, 24 years later, that this guy, this like Jihadi back freaking Marxist is going to get, it looks like he's going to get elected. And there's a guy named Trevor Loudon. He's an expert on Marxist and terrorist groups. He said that Mamdani is a Marxist member of the Democratic Socialist of America, DSA. He's a 12er Shia Muslim, which Adam, you'll love this. Same sect as Iran's ruling regime right now. And you know what they're about. His father supports Hamas and called Israelis Nazis.

• 1:31:11Speaker 05

  And Tom, you'll know this, the last time New York City had a Marxist mayor from the DSA. Do you know who it was? David Dinkins in the 1990s and guess what happened? Crime skyrocketed, drugs were flooded into the streets, businesses shut down. Times Square became a freaking cesspool and tourism collapsed, okay? And then the city nearly died, but Giuliani had to rescue New York from the wreckage. Now it's happening again, but this time with a Marxist, with Islamic supremacy tied in. And I'm telling you right now, if they win, this is... Just look at London, look at Europe, look at France, and just to see what's gonna happen, okay? Crime is gonna explode, terror is gonna become normalized, and the city's gonna turn into a third world zone. You'll see it.

• 1:31:56Speaker 04

  And their tax base is already changing right before their eyes as wealthy people and businesses move out of the city proper, meaning the five boroughs.

• 1:32:03Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, keep this in mind, AOC totally supports him. This is him out there in the streets. Watch this one here, folks. This is him, go for it. Very friendly.

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• 1:33:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear what he saw? He's screaming at Tom Homan. Do you believe in the First Amendment? So this guy's definitely not about securing the border. So you already know if you do something with this guy, you're gonna get the de Blasio 2.0.

• 1:33:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, when you get into, and by the way, go to AOC, Rob, what I just sent you, two things, New York Times. AOC endorses him and also they're out there in the video, the video I sent you, I don't know if you see the video. Of them protesting together, not protesting together, marching together. She's got the Puerto Rico, is this, yeah, that's the one right there, Rob. Watch this. Vinny, you will love this. That's AOC in the red.

• 1:33:53Patrick Bet-David?

  With Mam Donnie, okay?

• 1:33:58Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 1:33:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I mean, they're doing their part too. They're doing their part, but New York City's gotta step up and do something about this. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 1:34:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, let me look on the bright side. You know, you always say this, uh, elections have consequences. So, New York City, get ready for the consequences. You know, I will give this guy credit, authenticity matters. I believe he stands for what he says. You know, when someone tells you who they are, believe them. He tells you. I'm a democratic socialist. I am a pro Palestine, anti-Israel democratic socialist. I'm with the squad. I'm with Bernie. I'm with AOC. Uh, this is who I am. I co-founded the Justice for Palestine. Why are we surprised by any of this?

• 1:34:46Speaker 04

  You know, this is eerily reminiscent, these odds on the poly market, of exactly what happened in Canada just a few months ago. Pierre Poliev was 90% likely to win. Couple of weeks before the election, uh, Mark Carney surges in the polls, Justin Trudeau's out. And now Canada is run by another leftist. So, New York, um, your time to shine is either, uh...

• 1:35:14Speaker 04

  Over or it's just starting? So, one of the, one of the interviews that you did recently, PBD, that I've watched, not once, not twice, three times, is Tommy Robinson. He's warned us. It's coming for you. It's probably too late for what's happened in London. It's probably too late for what's happened in Paris. It's probably too late for what's happened in cities all around Europe. New York, you're about to have potentially a democratic socialist progressive jihadist mayor. This is a far throw from what Rudy Giuliani was when he cleaned up the streets of New York. Best of luck.

• 1:35:52Speaker 05

  It's not good, Pat. And Pat, can I just really, really fast?

• 1:35:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:35:55Speaker 05

  Because AOC and all them are talking shit. What's her name? AOC, Jasmine Crockett, everything, because they're trying to impeach Trump for what he's doing, especially in the Middle East with what happened. Because just to, just to really, really fast, just to FYI for everybody out there that's talking shit about Trump, about the bombings. Guess how many bombs Barack Obama dropped in his last year of his presidency? We'll take a wild guess. Twenty-six thousand, one hundred and seventy-two. He dropped almost twelve thousand, two hundred on Syria, twelve thousand in Iraq, almost five hundred in Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. So for everybody out there that's talking shit about Trump, agree or disagree, for them to be out there, and Trump just tweeted at AOC, I'm not going to read it, Pat, it's long as hell. I just sent it to Rob. I'll just give you the beginning of it, Robbie.

• 1:36:38Speaker 05

  He says, and you guys will love it, stupid AOC, Alexandria Cor- Cortez, one of the dumbest people in Congress, is now calling for my impeachment despite the fact that crooked and corrupt Democrats have already done that twice before. It's just like, it's such a, what is it? When you select, like, what you want to be argued about, Tom, but the other side's been doing it forever?

• 1:36:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, accuse, yeah, the, the, you know, the Democrat, actually, it comes out of the sixties, but it's like, accuse the incumbent opponent of doing exactly

• 1:37:10Speaker 04

  What you are already doing.

• 1:37:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. And they've been doing it for freaking how long?

• 1:37:14Speaker 04

  Get ready for prices in Miami and in Florida to start surging. Because I feel like a lot of millionaires and billionaires and job creators. People who are not a fan of not only his ideology. But just straight up socialism are gonna get the hell out of there, just like they left during COVID.

• 1:37:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Funny you're saying this.

• 1:37:31Speaker 04

  It's like wave, wave 2.0.

• 1:37:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you go to DeSantis's tweet, he's just saying what DeSantis said two days ago. If you go to DeSantis's tweet, you'll see what DeSantis said. And Adam is right. Check this out. DeSantis said two days ago. Uh, go a little bit higher. I think it's that one right there. Zoom in, right there, right at the top. Just when you thought Palm Beach real estate couldn't go any higher. You know what he's saying. By the way, look how many people retweeted that and liked that post. Go a little bit lower. It's one of his most, uh. 3.2 million right there, 14 on the comment. There's, okay, so nothing's gonna be changing with New York. Guess what I'm doing? I'm moving to Florida.

• 1:38:07Speaker 05

  Damn right.

• 1:38:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This is another, however many years you gotta deal with.

• 1:38:12Speaker 04

  You know, they say the canary in the coal mine. You've heard that term?

• 1:38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:17Speaker 04

  This might be it for America.

• 1:38:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm gonna tell you guys, these two are not in the same league.

• 1:38:22Speaker 05

  Not at all.

• 1:38:22Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not in the same league. Andrew Cuomo knows how to govern.

• 1:38:25Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:38:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's being a mayor. He had a massive, massive catastrophic mistake. Don't make any, you know, ifs and up bones. He made a massive, massive mistake. But they're not in the same league.

• 1:38:40Speaker 05

  And one, one hour ago, Cuomo was leading him by 14 points in the survey.

• 1:38:44Patrick Bet-David?

  One hour ago?

• 1:38:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, one hour ago.

• 1:38:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so we'll see what's gonna happen here. I think at the end of the day, they're gonna just settle down and go with Andrew Cuomo and he'll be the mayor of, mayor of, uh, uh, New York City.

• 1:38:54Speaker 04

  He's gotta turn up his campaign because right now he's kind of vanilla.

• 1:38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's go to the next one. US Trump, big, beautiful bill gets slimmed down in Senate. Adam, I'm gonna come to you with this one here. Uh, President Trump's tax and spending mega bill described as a big, beautiful bill is being scaled back in the Senate after Senate parliamentarian. Elizabeth McDowell ruled several provisions eligible in the budget reconciliation process, which requires measures to be. Uh, primarily budget related to, uh, a simple majority vote. Chuck Schumer praised the decision and a few others. McDowell's ruling, uh, McDonough's ruling removed provisions like the one requiring state to pay part of the food benefits based on. Payments there is projected to save 128 billion dollars over a decade. And a few other things. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:39:39Speaker 04

  Well, anyone that's interested in knowing how a bill becomes a law, I encourage you to uh, watch the video that they made us uh, watch when we were in eighth grade. Everyone makes a, everyone freaks out when something passes in the house. Oh my God, it's gonna raise the debt ceiling. Oh my God, we're gonna spend so much money. Oh my God. Relax. The Senate has been called the cooling saucer for when the House heats up the agenda. So what happens is the Senate will come in and be like, I don't know about all this. You know who looks very, very bad right now? Hmm. Is Elon Musk. Because Elon Musk was calling for dismantling this bill and saying that it's, it basically led

• 1:40:22Speaker 04

  to their complete, just destroying their relationship. I haven't heard much of it since a week ago, since this Iran thing. But in my opinion, Elon spoke way too soon. He started basically criticizing everything to anybody that's been wrong anytime a bill becomes a law. It doesn't just get approved immediately. It's just like the debt ceiling. Tom would know this better than anybody. How many times are they saying, oh my God, we're going over the edge. It's over. And then all of a sudden they save the day and pass a continuing resolution to make sure that we actually have enough money to fund the government. Every October. This is how government works. This is how the United States government works. We get to see how the sausage is made.

• 1:41:07Speaker 04

  It's not pretty, but that's what it's like being in a, in a, in America. You get to eliminate what you don't want and hopefully they're eliminating all the pork and basically the items that will drive up the debt. So we'll see what happens here, but it's not approved yet. Tom, thoughts? So whenever things go to the Senate, um, that's where the real big things happen. Why is that?

• 1:41:33Speaker 04

  Because senators have longer terms in office and much bigger, more expensive campaigns and much bigger interests. They say companies elect congressmen, representatives, industries elect senators. And so the Senate is coming and making bigger cuts on this. And you look at what's going on in there, what they talked about, and that they want to eliminate. And they want to, so you got to post bonds for injunctions against the government and proposals defund the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and move, emerge the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board and the Securities Exchange Commission.

• 1:42:18Speaker 04

  Those were refinements that were coming out of Congress. And now the Senate is looking at, well, not so fast. Let's not, you know, because I got everybody in the energy sector doesn't want to see you suddenly have a consolidation of regulatory authorities. See how that works, Pat? So you got everybody behind Senator Blowhard, you know, and saying, hey, man, you know, you better take this out of this bill, man, because we don't want this. Who doesn't want it? Well, I'm standing here representing Exxon and Chevron. I know, I know who the hell you are. I know you represent the entire petroleum industry. But that's what's going on right now, is the big, beautiful bill, some of the more restrictive things get restricted because industries use their power over, say, five

• 1:43:02Speaker 04

  congressmen, which is 5% of the total votes that you need to get something of the Senate, but 10% of the votes to get it passed. So if you and I were the energy sector, Pat, remember, we only have to get to five congressmen to have 10% of what we need on the 51% passage.

• 1:43:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the chances that Elon read the entire bill?

• 1:43:22Speaker 04

  The chances that Elon read the bill, I think it's very, very low. But did he get summaries from Grok and go through things like that? I believe he did.

• 1:43:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So what's the chances that when he's reading the bill, what do you think are the top three things he's looking for in the bill that got him to pop off?

• 1:43:38Speaker 04

  Well, I think we can safely say that the 70, he, look, he's the number one market shareholder of EVs.

• 1:43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:43:46Speaker 04

  So when $7,500 credit for anyone buying a new EV in the industry, he can say, that benefits the whole, you know, EV industry. And I think that got him to pop off. He was also very upset about

• 1:44:00Speaker 05

  NASA funding and what he wanted was a hard integration of SpaceX and the Dragon capsule that went up and ultimately offered to save the astronauts who were stuck in the space station. So I think there was NASA and I also think there were things for the EV industry like that $7,500 credit that he says, oh, it's not only about Tesla. Give me a break. You're 70% of the charging stations and you're 44% of the market share. Of course that one benefits you more than anybody else. And you can sound noble and say, well, it's about EVs everywhere. But I think those kinds of things is what really got him going.

• 1:44:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, makes sense. So to me, I think the main things he's looking at is stuff that he's going to be connected with financially. Tesla, but I think EV is going to be at the top, right? And when you see something that's going to all of a sudden trigger your business suddenly, you go zero to nuclear the way that he did and it's over with. And if you notice a couple of things that we talked about last on Saturday, the emergency meeting of who is in the inner, inner, inner circle. If this is the inner circle of Trump and let's just say five people are in here. This is 20 people. This is 50 people. Where is Elon at right now?

• 1:45:12Speaker 05

  Oh, he's on the outside. Oh, yeah. He's, he's, he's outside the third ring.

• 1:45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  He's outside.

• 1:45:18Speaker 05

  He's out there.

• 1:45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I think so as well. And, and by the way, there's a part of me that thinks he's also happy and he's done and he's doing what Larry Ellison is doing to not, not want to have as much to do with politics as because he really went off last year 2024 going in all in fully, you know, driving, doing all this stuff that he did. And then all of a sudden notice what happened with business, issues, results, headaches. It's like, cause I'm out of it. I don't know if I want to mess with it anymore. All right, let's go into the next one. We'll see. By the way, we don't know yet. Well, we'll see if he's not gonna, maybe he's gonna make a comeback and we don't know anything about what's going on here with him. Next story I want to get into and Tom, I'm coming to you here. Very, very interesting folks. This is worth you listening to, especially if you want to buy a house, sell a house, whatever you're going through. Story comes out that says more than

• 1:46:03Patrick Bet-David?

  thousand, uh, that says, um, uh, new real estate math, half a million more sellers than buyers. Wall Street Journal. While that story's out there, the other story Financial Times says, Federal Reserve starts to split on when to begin cutting US interest rates. Huh? What do they mean by this? I can't wait for Tom to tell you guys what Scott Besson's idea is here. Okay?

• 1:46:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Christopher Waller, no relation to Christopher Walker, Walken. Federal Governor, potential successor to Federal Reserve System Chair Jay Powell advocated for rate cut as early as next month stating in a CNBC interview. We've been on pause for six months thinking they're going to be a big tariff shock to inflation. We haven't seen it. We should be basing policy on the data. This contrast with Fed's unanimous decision Wednesday to maintain rates at four and a quarter to four and a half, despite President Trump pushing to cut rates to three and a half points. Trump criticized Powell on Truth Social Friday saying, I don't know why the board doesn't override this total and complete moron. Maybe, just maybe, I have to change my mind about firing him. But regardless, his term ends shortly.

• 1:47:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Powell, whose term ends in May 2026, acknowledged Wednesday, there was a pretty healthy diversity of views on the committee, but noted with uncertainty as elevated as it is, no one holds these rate paths with a lot of conviction. Tom, what idea does Besant have that you want to share with the rest of us? Well, the Fed likes to say that it's neutral, right? They always like to say, well, we're neutral. We're not political, right? They say that all the time. But ladies and gentlemen, it's election season at the Fed. Christopher Waller is a potential successor to Federal Reserve Chairman Jay Powell. So who is in charge of selecting the candidate?

• 1:47:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump. So guess what? It is 10 months to a new Fed Chair. We are coming up, coming up on 10 months. So isn't it interesting that Christopher Waller doesn't slam Mr. Powell, but he certainly says, I think it, I'm on the dot chart and I think maybe it's time to cut. Remember, European Central Bank right now, it's 2.1 to 2.4. That's where the European Central Bank is, and we're still at four. So we're two percentage points ahead, I mean, above the European Central Bank. Well, check this out. Why would Christopher Waller be saying something like this? Well, there's also other things going on. Do you know what Scott Besant, in addition to being in favor of nukes, which is a good thing

• 1:48:38Patrick Bet-David?

  In addition to being pro crypto, which is a good thing in my book, and in addition to being in favor of cutting rates to help businesses borrow more cheaply, not at zero, but more cheaply, and to help homeowners stimulate the biggest asset that most people have, Besen is in favor of all of that. But he also knows what else he's in favor of? He's in favor of this little proposal that says, hey, maybe we should nominate because the Fed is such a big deal and there's so much impact on the stock market. What will the Fed do? Look at all the interest we have. You see it like countdown to three days, two days, one day. Powell's going to the microphone. What will he say? It's a big

• 1:49:23Patrick Bet-David?

  deal, right? And it moves the stock market. Well, Besen has said, hey, you know what? What if we nominate the Fed replacement now? What if Trump nominates him now? We get him confirmed now, and then the markets know what's going on because we're only 10 months away from a new Fed chairman. And you know whose name is getting floated by some of his friends? Scott Besen. So Scott Besen is saying, you know what? Maybe we should do this. And as a matter of fact, I'd like that job. And so let's make a new Fed chairman. Because guess what happens the minute, if they did that, even though it's a year before you go into office, it's just like what happens to our president between November and January. Had

• 1:50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Biden been, you know, God bless him, a full able-bodied president, how much does even the best president get done between November, the day after the election and the inauguration? Nothing. Because it's called the lame duck period. This would effectively make Powell a lame duck, and you would have Scott Besen, known to be the next Fed coming in. So he would be speaking to the markets. And I found this whole parlor game interesting. And Christopher Waller, no surprise, he wants to be a candidate too. And now he's come out and says, you know, maybe it is time to cut rates. You know what I will say? Okay. So I think first of all, it's a brilliant idea. Because it's representing a person. Like if Besen comes out and tells Trump, let's

• 1:50:50Patrick Bet-David?

  appoint somebody automatically from now, that's going to be the person in 2026. And get him confirmed? Yeah. I, I, there's a part of me that likes the idea. There's a part of me that thinks Trump won't do that because it's not his personality because Trump wants people to compete for it to last minute. He doesn't want him to get too comfortable. And if he appoints and confirms, and then all of a sudden, this guy and Jay Powell both agree, then he looks horrible. So confirming too early is a little bit also risky for me. I, I don't know if I would do that. Yeah, what if they both want to hold brakes? That is exactly the problem. I would pump the brakes on that. However, I will tell you this. The, the other thing you gotta study on a profile of Jerome Powell, I don't think Jerome Powell gives a shit. I don't think he cares. He's intimidated. He's threatened by his job.

• 1:51:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He does not give me the vibe of being that guy. I seriously don't think, he gives me the vibe of being so confident. Who were his parents, by the way? Can we find that? Rob, can you tap on who were Jerome Powell's parents? I want to know whose parents were. Children, he's got three. Spouse, Alyssa Leonard. Six. Who's her pound? Parents, six children, to Patricia Hayden and Jerome Powell Senior, lawyer in private practice. His maternal grandfather, James Hayden, was the dean of Columbus School of Law. His mom's dad? Catholic University, and later lecturer of Georgetown Law. He has five siblings. He graduated Georgetown. Yeah, look, this guy was raised properly. Let me tell you, this guy

• 1:52:17Patrick Bet-David?

  was raised properly. To be that, that poised, what, what's his faith? What, what's his denomination? What does he believe in? What, what's his religion? What is? I think he's Catholic. He went to a Jesuit, um, high school. He went to, did he go to Jesuit University? Georgetown University. So, wow. I mean, if you read Jesuit Leadership, that, that book on how, how disciplined Jesuits are. Georgetown University, Catholic University of America. He's not a practicing Catholic. Not a practicing. He has supported church of charitable efforts in DC. Very, very interesting, the way he is. He's a very, very interesting guy. To be this strong in his, so while he has Catholic roots, he appears to be non-practicing. I don't know.

• 1:53:03Speaker 04

  I don't think he wakes up in the morning worried about this. Adam, what do you think? Well, the best way to describe the relationship between Trump and Jerome Powell is if, uh, picture a car, Trump is the gas and Powell is the brakes. And Trump's trying to go faster, he's trying to speed things up and Powell's just like, relax buddy, I got this. How many threats, how many, um, broken promises has Trump made about Powell? This is one thing I will say about Trump where he's been dead wrong on. He's done zero to sway Powell's influence or his judgment. Trump is crushing it right now, I believe, especially with foreign policy this week. But anything with Powell, he's not doing well on. But if you take a look at the numbers, here's what's interesting about the United States right now.

• 1:53:50Speaker 04

  Inflation, United States versus the rest of the world, we're killing it, we're doing great. Our core, um, consumer price index, I think has it set like 2.4%? The rest of the world is in the mid fours, 4.3, 4.4% unemployment. Cause obviously the Fed is, uh, responsible for cooling inflation, but also keeping employment right up, right? So employment, I think America's somewhere around 4%, whereas the rest of the world is, I don't know, in the, uh, fives, possibly even higher in some countries. Uh, the Fed fund rate, I think is currently at seven and a half, I'm sorry, four and a half. So the prime rate is seven and a half.

• 1:54:34Speaker 04

  United States is sitting really, really pretty compared to the rest of the world. You know where the rest of the world is doing better, at the very least? Take a look at what mortgage rates are in the United States versus the rest of the world. Take a look at what the United States mortgage rates are, uh, versus Canada or in countries in Europe. They're almost double in the United States versus the rest of the world. I don't know why that is. Uh, our, our prime rate is obviously, uh, tethered very closely to the mortgage rates. But mortgage rates are a lot lower than the rest of the world. So we'll see what happens with the real estate market, but everything else in the market. Inflation, employment, uh, consumer price index is all in the United States favor right now.

• 1:55:19Speaker 04

  All right, let's go to the next story. Two CNN executives both struggling.

• 1:55:23Patrick Bet-David?

  As anxiety soars over cost cutting after spin off. Okay. Man, if we were in a different place and and we would we would go go pick that brand up and just.

• 1:55:36Speaker 05

  Flip it easily.

• 1:55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We wouldn't flip it. We would flip it on its head and drive it. Okay, it's Laura, uh, uh, Baron, uh, Baron Bernardini. Vice President of Domestic News and Jack Smith, Vice President of Digital Video are leaving CNN. With Bernardini having served 28 years and Smith 17 years per Oliver Darcy's status newsletter CNN. Plans to tighten, uh, uh, expense accounts starting July 1st, requiring receipts for travel and source meetings. Amid anxiety over corporate spin off from Warner Brothers. Discovery, WBD and Global Networks led by WBD CFO Gunner White and Falls, who told staffers in a memo. I'm a deep admirer of CNN and consume its content.

• 1:56:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Around the clock CNN staffers expressed unease after the spin off at one telling Darcy, everyone is wary and tired. And there's so much change that we don't understand what direction the company is going in and another noting. There are people who think CNN won't exist at some point. Hard to believe what will happen. But there are people who feel that way. Tom, thoughts on this? How bad is it? It's it's very bad and this is just the tip of the iceberg and these are just people that are reacting to the spin off. Cause the spin off has said one word profitability. We have to operate profitable. So we're being spin off of a lot of the cable, uh, assets into a tracking stock. That stock will act like its own little company. And that's what, uh, Zaz, who's the ultimate, you know, CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery.

• 1:57:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's calling the shot here has decided he's going to take the streaming and the big stuff. He's going to continue to be CFO and the CFO is going to run the other side of it. And what's going on right now, everybody is freaking out because all eyes are on CNN. Why? Cause even the people that run CNN.

• 1:57:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And even the people that run the spinoff, they see that CNN can and should be more profitable. So guess what? They've been cutting contracts, they've been cutting people, and they've been making changes for a year now, coming up to this. And now it's really happening. And you got people that were there 28 years and 17 years. The party is over. They know the party's over. They don't have automatic positions, automatic. And these people were upset. They actually leaked out to Oliver Darcy, and Oliver Darcy is a very good source of media gossip from inside. And they leaked to Oliver Darcy, "Oh, man, it's gonna be bad. They're tightening up our expense reports. You need receipts for everything." Well, guess what? There is another part of that.

• 1:58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Two-hour lunches and people were spending excessive amounts on a company credit card for lunch. In other words, "Hey, we're CNN. We get to do everything." And the cuts are coming. And it's, you know what? Anderson Cooper's salary is gonna get closer to Caitlin Collins, not the other way around. They're all getting squeezed down because it has to be profitable. And now you're finding layers of management are self-selecting out. And when I see things like this, where the leadership knows exactly what they're doing, Pat, you ran very large insurance organization. You knew exactly what an incentive program or controls, or maybe it was an incentive program with some specific rules of performance. You knew who was going

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  to say, "Oh, man, I'm out," before it even start. And you knew who is in, right? You absolutely know that as a leader. Well, that's what's going on here. And I think what they're doing is they're putting on these controls because they want some of this dead dinosaur flesh to just leave the organization. But CNN, you know what? These are just small changes. Rob, can you tap in CNN top line revenue? CNN top line revenue, if it's public info? I think it's cloaked within what they used to call cable ops. 1.0% CNN top line revenue based on available data, 1.8 billion 2023. What is it in 2024? They don't want 1.8 anymore.

• 1:59:31Patrick Bet-David?

  No, for sure. But what is 2024 CNN top line revenue? Every year it's been going down. The search results indicate that CNN's annual revenue 2024, 1.8 billion based on financial metrics. I don't think it's 1.8 billion. And can you, well, they're not gonna show it. Their EBITDA, that's, that's... I mean, the brand is a strong brand for the right, but it is gonna be such a massive, massive headache to manage to move forward with it. But imagine the inventory of video content stuff that they have.

• 2:00:02Speaker 05

  And the infrastructure, but it's almost as if, I wish I could, and it's almost like the leadership when we talk about the Democrats in Los Angeles and New York, it's like, I wish I could just address their leadership and say, do your damn job. All these numbers, Tom, all the money, everything that it's failing is let them know you're supposed to run a news network, not a propaganda mill.

• 2:00:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Comma, profitably.

• 2:00:25Speaker 05

  Profitably, but you know what it is? People are sick and tired of your bullshit. You've been exposed. Trump exposed you with Jim Acosta when he said, you're fake news and you're not adjusting. You have to adjust. Think about the old school people, Pat, Bernard Shaw, Larry King, Ted Turner, Walter Cronkite, they had class, they had a message, they were doing something good. It's not hard. Stop hiring propaganda freaking activists with teleprompters, report the news, yes, have different opinions and have people say their points, but it's like, gee, like, you guys aren't journalists anymore. It's over. And then, and then they're shocked. The world is like, wait, what the, why are they failing? You guys know why they're failing, cuz they suck. They suck.

• 2:01:08Speaker 05

  That's why people are turning to podcasts, guess what? Like this one, where everybody has different opinions, but we're giving you facts, we're fact checking in real time. Me and Adam go at it all the time. Tom and Adam go at it. Me and Pat, we don't agree with everything, and that's, that's why this shit is taking over and people like CNN are losing and they will not adjust. That's the worst thing. The ship keeps sinking and they're like, bring on another captain. It doesn't matter. Your ship is going down and the market is speaking up, and that's it.

• 2:01:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I, I, listen, I, I, if they can't save Scott Jennings, if Scott, if, if right now, I'm being serious.

• 2:01:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:01:49Patrick Bet-David?

  If somebody wanted to destroy CNN, guess what? Get Scott Jennings to run for office or do something. If Scott Jennings leaves CNN.

• 2:01:57Speaker 05

  It's over.

• 2:02:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody would buy them, but if you want a discount, here's how to get the discount. Say the company right now to buy is worth one and a half billion dollars.

• 2:02:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:02:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You ready for the crazy strategy? One times revenue or something, right? You ready, you ready for the crazy strategy? Here's what I would do.

• 2:02:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I would, if I take Scott Jennings.

• 2:02:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:02:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Give him a five-year, $25 million contract to a company. You paid him 25 million bucks, okay? Then CNN's ratings gonna drop 25%. Couple of the shows, it's gonna drop 25%, main show's gonna drop 25%.

• 2:02:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Then that one and a half billion dollars, now you can buy for 1.2 billion dollars. You pay 25 million dollars to save 275 million dollars.

• 2:02:45Speaker 05

  Very smart.

• 2:02:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Step number one, get Scott Jennings out of CNN. Step number two, get yourself a 300 million dollar discount. That's how I would do it. Adam, go for it.

• 2:02:53Speaker 04

  You know what show on CNN gets a million viewers a night? Do you know what show?

• 2:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  None.

• 2:03:01Speaker 04

  None. You're absolutely right. We're the only major network of the three news outlets between Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN that doesn't have one show that gets a million viewers a night. This podcast, this little homegrown podcast on BBD Podcasts, will likely get a million viewers, but not CNN. Their top-ranked show, I believe, is Anderson Cooper. You can fact-check this, at somewhere around 700,000 viewers. Maybe a little bit more.

• 2:03:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that would be a big night for him during the week, by the way.

• 2:03:33Speaker 04

  To put that into perspective, the top shows on Fox News, I think the five gets almost 4 million viewers. I want to say Jesse Waters is hovering at 3, 3.5 viewers. 3.5 million viewers. Gutfeld, also 3.5 million viewers. Even on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow's getting almost 2 million viewers. Here's the biggest problem with CNN. You gotta pick a side. You know, everyone knows that Fox News is to the right. Everyone knows that. They claim to be fair and balanced. Okay. Everyone knows that MSNBC's on the left. They don't even hide it. Like, they're just like, if you have Trump derangement syndrome, come visit us here at MSNBC.

• 2:04:18Speaker 04

  The problem is news have gone so far from what Walter Cronkite once did, and once basically stood for, that everything is so tribal now. So CNN is stuck in the middle, "No, we're on, we're fair, we're balanced, no, we're, we're anti-Trump, no, no, no, now we're covering Trump favorably." They're beyond repair, because they're not on one team. The days of being fair and balanced are over, you need to pick a side, and unfortunately, they've already picked their side, and no one on the right trusts them, and people on the left don't trust them either anymore.

• 2:04:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, but Adam, there has to be a reason why, okay, I get, I get the biases, and Fox is right, and CNN is left, but why is Fox strike, like, number one, and kicking ass? Because, yes, we know that they're conservative, but they're reporting facts. They'll go back and forth, and they'll have their opinions. CNN lies, CNN is propaganda, okay? CNN has been exposed, and there's no coming back, bro. They can, mind you, think about it, the Abby Phillip Show, people are tuning in not to see Abby Phillips. Nobody wants, nobody gives a shit what she has to say. It's what Scott Jennings is gonna do to that entire panel of delusional leftists. And that's what it is, say what people want about Fox, at least they're telling you how it is, and that's a reason that they're number one.

• 2:05:37Speaker 05

  CNN will purposely push some shit like propaganda, and they'll have all these activists, from Jim Acosta, who's, who's doing Substack, to Brian Stelter, who they fire, and dude, when I tell you they can't get out of their own why, their own way, you hire Brian Stelter back? What the hell are you doing? If you, if you fire somebody, bro, let them go.

• 2:05:58Speaker 04

  You're, you're mostly right, Vinny, you're just not all the way right. The, um, to act like Fox doesn't have propagandists or activists.

• 2:06:06Speaker 05

  I didn't say that, but they're telling facts.

• 2:06:08Speaker 04

  Ideologues would be a dis-.

• 2:06:09Speaker 05

  How are they number one, though? How are they number one?

• 2:06:10Speaker 04

  They're just, they're just less worse than CNN. But they all have opinion shows, and in my opinion, in my opinion, any opinion show should say Hannity's opinion, Ingraham's opinion, Tucker's opinion.

• 2:06:25Speaker 04

  Wolf Blitzer's opinion.

• 2:06:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, but.

• 2:06:27Speaker 04

  So. People aren't smart enough to basically decipher what's fact and what's opinion.

• 2:06:31Speaker 05

  Are you ready for this? Like, like, like, like the Russia collusion thing? CNN not only knew it was fake, they took it and they ran with it and they pushed it. All the lying with, with COVID and all that shit. You can't come back from that. We, we are not going to forget that shit. Putting, putting the death tracker up there like they were proud of it during COVID. It's like, no, bro. Fox doesn't do that. Fox never took a story like that, that new Hillary Clinton started and pushed that shit to divide us. They're never going to get that back.

• 2:06:58Speaker 04

  You're, again, you're mostly right, but you're also going to have a hard time convincing the, how much? Almost a billion dollars that Fox News.

• 2:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not there yet, man. One of these days you'll be there.

• 2:07:08Speaker 05

  You know what? I'm gonna bust my butt, Pat, and I promise you for the new year, I'm gonna try to get there.

• 2:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  According to Adam, you're not there yet. All right, let's. One of these days. Let's put a period at the end of the sentence and move on. And it was this. Anderson Cooper makes eighteen million dollars a year. Eighteen million dollars a year Anderson Cooper makes. And the CFO, who's going to be the CEO of all the cable nets. His name is Gunner. Gunner Videnfels is looking for ways to cut costs. So they have said, apparently they said on the 12th, and I missed it, but they spoke to the Puck newsletter and they leaked, well, Anderson in news has an uncertain future at CNN, given the eighteen million dollar contract cost. So guess what? He's either going to get bought out, called, take your medicine now, you give him a payout,

• 2:07:57Patrick Bet-David?

  or they got to negotiate it. Cause is Anderson Cooper at eighteen million worth six Caitlin Collins at three?

• 2:08:03Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Nope, she's not even worth that. Ooh.

• 2:08:07Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 2:08:08Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 2:08:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, I was just saying economically speaking, and by the way.

• 2:08:13Speaker 04

  Tom upset on his birthday, y'all.

• 2:08:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And there are, by the way, there's rumors in media land that she's not as liberal as she portray, portrays to be, that she's like more moderate, but she assumed this, uh, this political, you know, position on the, the number line of liberal versus conservative. And it has served her career well, but deep inside she's a little bit more moderate. So we will see. And when I say she's not worth the three, I'm talking about the economics of the moment. So you're saying. Whether she's making money on her show or not, but could, could she be worth more than that to somebody? Maybe. She ain't worth the food stamp. And at death row at CNN, I hear she's getting treated like

• 2:08:55Speaker 05

  Oh, snap, Tom.

• 2:08:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Boot camp. Gotta follow the sergeant's direction, Tom. Or get your ass. I'll stop right there, guys. We watch, we watch, we watched straight out of Compton the other day. Now stay focused, guys. Okay.

• 2:09:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Armenian Prime Minister Pashinian meets Erdogan in Turkey on historic visit. This is according to France 24 story. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinian met with Erdogan to recap in Istanbul on Friday for an in-depth talks lasting over an hour at Dolma Bahad's palace, discussing the Armenia-Turkey normalization process and a regional peace. Pashinian's government described the visit as a historic step, with both leaders addressing potential steps to be taken with the framework of the normalization process between Turkey and Armenia. Per Erdogan's office, Pashinian posted on X about their in-depth exchange and reaffirmed Armenia's commitment to building peace and stability in our region. The leaders discussed Armenia's peace negotiations with Azerbaijan with Erdogan,

• 2:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  stressing the significance of the consensus reached in those talks. According to the office, relations remain strained, pay attention to this one, due to the World War era, mass, World War I era, mass killings of Armenians, which Erdogan calls genocide, a term Turkey rejects, and Turkey's support for Azerbaijan in its conflict with Armenia. So, this is the part where, when you hear a story like this, on what's going on with Armenia trying to have the meeting with Turkey, great. So what's step number one? Have the meeting. What's step number two? How do you handle yourself in that meeting? How do you negotiate? What leverages do you have?

• 2:10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  What insurance policies do you have? What ace do you have up your sleeve? If it goes wrong, who has your back? Does Russia have your back? Are you establishing relationships with people in US to get closer to them? Or because you're getting so close with everybody there, you're not, you're kind of worried about if you get too close to US, Russia's not going to be happy because you're on the border with them. Erdogan is not going to be happy. You have to kind of get stronger with the bricks, you know, but, but he's in a very interesting place. There are certain Armenians. Who watched Pashinyan and another man, that's a sweet man, I think he was a journalist before, of what he did before he became the PM. And the level of strength to be able to do all the negotiations, the deals that is being done.

• 2:11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  When you go to Erdogan, imagine if all of a sudden Pashinyan comes out and says, "Well, look, in order for us to have peace, we have to all agree that the Armenian genocide never happened, and we have to call it a different word." Do you know what would happen if he does that? So imagine Pashinyan agrees to change the verbiage of a genocide never happened. Now, here's the thing, who has leverage in this meeting between Erdogan and Pashinyan? Erdogan has the leverage, okay? Do you think, Tom, when Erdogan is sitting with Pashinyan, do you think Erdogan sits there and says, "Hey, what are the chances, Tom?" Do you think Erdogan would suggest, "I think moving forward, you guys gotta stop saying, uh, genocide, genocide, genocide. War, yes, mass killings, yes, you gotta stop saying genocide. You can't say that anymore."

• 2:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Erdogan's gonna be resolved and strong about that phrase needing to be changed? I think so, because they wanna, they wanna basically put that history behind them. They don't want to have like a grand admission of something right now, which sort of takes that history and, you know, it explodes again. You know, if I was president here in the United States, I've told you this before, we would have a Armenian genocide Remembrance Day on the calendar, because of the rich history and contributions Armenian Americans have made to America, where America is not

• 2:12:48Patrick Bet-David?

  a race, is not a language, it's all of us. And I would recognize their contributions, or recognize that. That tension lives here, because Turkey's got the largest military in the Middle East, and like, one of the top 10 militaries in the world, and they're strategically significant, and they've had US bases, so you've had all these US presidents saying, "Ah, we probably shouldn't say the, you know, the G-word with the Turks, because we got all these bases, and we needed these bases there, you know, especially the Air Force bases, because it was strategically significant in the Cold War versus Russia, because of the geographic location of Turkey." So Erdogan's kinda playing those cards, because for decades, they've been able to

• 2:13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  get US presidents not to push to say the G-word. And because they've been able to play the card, well, there's a strategic significance here. Why do you want to kick all my people in the teeth? Why do you want to do this? That happened so long ago. So it's so long ago, can't we get past it? And can we just refer to it as part of the horror of World War I? Can we just say that Turkey and Armenia had a moment in World War I? It was just part of the horrors of World War I? And I think that's what Erdogan was going to want. I don't think he's going to want to accept the word and therefore accept responsibility and therefore accept the narrative. This is going to sound weird.

• 2:14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Pashinyan is as much of a true believer in the history of Armenia as Netanyahu is a true believer in Israel? I don't know enough about him to make an assessment. I don't know either, but let me tell you something. If you're a proud Jew from Israel and you're seeing the support for Netanyahu increasing during this tension that they're having. Do you like a guy that is Israel first? Do you like that Trump is America first? Is Pashinyan Armenia first? Is he Pashinyan first? I don't know what he is first.

• 2:14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. But when you go into these rooms, like if I send you, in insurance, we'd give you 20 appointments. And I would send you into rooms. And you go sit at the kitchen table with the husband and wife. Let's just say we knew they were qualified, they were ultra-hident, or whatever you want to call it. I would judge you on if you close the deals or not. I would say, nah, he's not a closer. Then I would try Tom. I'm like, no, Tom closes. Moving forward, I'm going to send Tom in those meetings. When we send Trump in meetings, do you think Trump's a closer? 1,000%. I don't know if Pashinyan is a closer. Maybe he is, maybe he's not. We know Erdogan's a closer. Oh, yeah. You don't have to like him. You think he's Turkey first? Of course. He's 100% Turkey first. So to me, I don't know if Pashinyan has the same swagger when he walks in. And somebody may say, well, they're small, though. Israel is small.

• 2:15:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Netanyahu acts big. He built some strong alliances. Can Pashinyan do that? Does Armenia need a leader like that? Maybe, maybe not. Anyways, gang, as usual, it's been great hanging out with you guys. Uh, uh, we will most like, by the way, in the room we're in right now, the AC works so good here. Oh, Rob's, Rob doesn't look like he's sweating. It's fricking, we're almost freezing. I asked Rob, can you guys grab me a jacket? Because of how fricking cold it is here. Andres is naked. Nice, yeah. They can't even see. He's not even wearing any clothes. But anyways, guys, it is so.

• 2:16:11Speaker 04

  With those cameras around.

• 2:16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It is so cold here that through Zoom, Adam is even cold. That's how cold it is. If you look at Adam right there with, uh, that's right, Adam. You're being very suspicious. Anyways, alright, gang, it's been great. We were doing so well. Listen, I hope you know this, how much we appreciate you, and we know without you, it's just the four of us talking. But you know what's crazy about this? Even if the camera's not on, if you ever see us going to dinner without any cameras on, we have just as much fun with the camera on, uh, versus camera off. It's the same exact energy when we're together. This is just how we are. We're always talking, debating, talking shit, laughing. It's the same culture that we have, but what happened, what we've been able to do here without you, we want you to know whether you agree with us, disagree with us. We get

• 2:16:56Patrick Bet-David?

  people that get on that can't stand us. We get people that get on that like what we have to say, and we get people that get on that want to see different perspective. Either way, we appreciate every single one of you guys. We're grateful for you. God bless. Have a great day. We'll do it again on Thursday. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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