BONUS | Camila Cabello: “Stoicism Changed Everything for Me”

How does Camila Cabello https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqOlJuvIdU stay centered in the chaos of fame? Today’s bonus episode brings back an evergreen lesson from herDaily Stoic episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqOlJuvIdU that’s worth hearing again. 🎥 Watch the full conversation between Camila Cabello and Ryan Holiday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqOlJuvIdU here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqOlJuvIdU 📚 Books mentioned: Stillness Is The Key https://store.dailystoic.com/products/stillness-is-the-key-signed-editionby Ryan Holiday Ego is the Enemy https://store.dailystoic.com/products/ego-is-the-enemy-signed-edition by Ryan Holiday The Obstacle Is the Way https://store.dailystoic.com/products/the-obstacle-is-the-way-leatherbound-signed-editionby Ryan Holiday 👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing toThe Daily Stoic Premium https://dailystoic.supercast.com/ - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content:https://dailystoic.supercast.com/ 🎥 Watch the video episodes onThe Daily Stoic YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos:https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos 🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast onInstagram https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast/?hl=en:https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast ✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email athttps://dailystoic.com/dailyemail 🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store:https://store.dailystoic.com/ 📱 Follow us: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dailystoic/,Twitter https://twitter.com/dailystoic,YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic,TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@daily_stoic?lang=en, andFacebook https://www.facebook.com/dailystoic See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:05Speaker 00

  Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a Stoic-inspired meditation, designed to help you find strength and insight and wisdom into everyday life. Each one of these episodes is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women, help you learn from them, to follow in their example, and to start your day off with a little dose of courage and discipline and justice and wisdom. For more, visit DailyStoic.com.

• 0:56Ryan Holiday?

  That's something the Stoics talk about, which is like, what good is success if the result is that you don't feel like you're in charge of your own mind or your own life? Like, how is that success?

• 1:08Speaker 02

  Exactly. And that's like not what we as a society are taught. And actually, so much of, I feel like, healing is being like, what of this is like what I actually want? And what of this is just like what everybody else is doing? And I'm doing it because everybody else is doing it? Like that, you know, and stillness is the key. Like, that really resonated with me. Like, what's your definite? And ego is the enemy too. And it's like, all of these questions about like, what is success to you? Like, is success being famous and having these awards? And I feel like it's especially a necessary teaching nowadays because I have like, you know, my little cousin who's like eight years old. And I'm like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And she's like, I want to be TikTok famous.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  And I'm like, it's like these values of like, no, what's important is, you know, how content you are with your life, like the level of gratitude that you experience. Like, most importantly for me right now, like, the connections that you have with your family and your friendships and your community and your purpose. Like, I genuinely do feel like my purpose is in art, you know? I don't think I actually... Even though I, it's always been my passion, my favorite thing to do, like, I feel like in the past eight months, I, I really was like, oh no, this is like what I, what, what I wanna do, you know, like this is like,

• 2:31Speaker 02

  what I feel like my, my purpose is and it's like not doing it for any out, any outcome of like being famous or successful, what people think of you, which it can subconsciously, like, I know, I mean, I can, I can only speak for myself, but like, even when you don't say that to yourself, like, I've never been like, I wanna be the most famous, I wanna be number one, I've never said that, but I remember like reading ego is the enemy and being like, but then at the same time, I go to do a writing session and I care so much about what these people in the room think of, think of me, like, I'm like, so insecure and, and afraid and like, that's ego too, because I'm still not doing it for the right reasons, like the, the, the right reason is

• 3:16Speaker 02

  to tell my truth, that's it, period.

• 3:20Ryan Holiday?

  There's a great Marcus Rilis quote, he says, um, we care about ourselves more than other people. He says, but we care about other people's opinion more than our own.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  Right, I love that quote.

• 3:31Ryan Holiday?

  It's, it's so true, like you, you pour yourself into this thing, doing it the way that only you wanna do it, you know, and then, and then all of a sudden, it comes out and then what you're thinking is like, did other people say it's good or not? And sometimes you need a project, I, I did a book a few years ago, this book called Conspiracy, which I think is my best book, but it sold the, the least well out of all of them. It didn't like fail, it just, it just didn't do maybe what it could have done. And what was really freeing about that experience was it totally decoupled, like, critical success and sales for me from like, what I know is good, and that's like, it was such a huge breakthrough.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  It was such a huge breakthrough for me when I saw, like, a couple of months ago, I was, I was like, you know, I read ego, I read obstacles away, like, I think like two years ago, and I, For my second album, I read, um, a friend of mine gave me that book. And so I read it and it I remember like reading it and then for the next like two months while I was reading it, like my writing sessions were like amazing because everything, even even my own insecurity and my own like fear, I was kind of using it to fuel, you know, I was doing that, that uh stoic teaching that I love so much, the amor fati, the taking everything and and

• 4:52Speaker 02

  even the bad stuff and loving that it happened, not just accepting it, but being like, oh, I'm gonna use this now. Um, and that's the first time I read that book. Then like

• 5:03Speaker 02

  three, two, two years later, um, I read Stillness is the Key. And that was actually when I was, when I was, that was like a year ago, actually. Um, that's when I was going through the height of my uh, my my mental health crisis. And um, that really impacted me. And then during quarantine, I read Ego is the Enemy. And I started really getting into Stoicism and I got like the Daily Stoic Journal. And I was reading the Daily Stoic videos and one video that really resonated with me was the one where you're talking about how Stoics define success and and the internal scoreboard and how it's like

• 5:44Speaker 02

  there's success that's like, okay, how many views did this get? How many likes did this get? Uh, how successful is this, is this song or this album gonna be? And that's all the things that you can't control. So if you measure success like that, or how other, what other people in the room think of me, then you're gonna be unhappy your whole life. But if you change your definition of success, which I've really been practicing when I've been writing for this album, if I change my definition of success to how honest was I today? How vulnerable was I today? How, you know, did I, did I show up completely as myself? Was I kind to people? You know, was, did I see people? Did I make this a fun experience for everybody in the room? Like if I just focus on

• 6:28Speaker 02

  what I can control in this moment, then at the end of every day, I was like, it was, it was a successful day. Even if I did feel anxious or nervous, I was like, my metric of success was, hey, guys, I, I feel a little nervous, you know, and I was truthful. And therefore I met with my like standard of success. And it's like, That's so much more important. Like, it's so much more important to be the person that you want to be and lead with with that than like how other people perceive you or what people perceive you. Like, that's like what I love about Stoicism and like what I feel like is going to be my philosophy of life forever is like, which it wasn't before, like, I feel like I was

• 7:10Speaker 02

  leading with what I was doing instead of who I was being, you know? It's like, you know, I was, I just like, now I'm so conscious of like, me being, you know, brave and courageous and kind and, you know, and truthful. And my character comes before any of the things that I do.

• 7:40Ryan Holiday?

  Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic Podcast. I just wanted to say, we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple of years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please, spread the word, tell people about it. And this isn't to sell anything, I just wanted to say, thank you.