145. Dr. Austin Lake: Biohacking Women’s Health - Birth Control, Hormones, Sleep & Nutrients

Many women struggling with hormonal issues are told to just “take birth control” or “it’s all in your head” - but the reality? They’re missing a critical first step - addressing the foundational principles of health. In this episode, I had a fascinating conversation with Dr. Austin Lake who revealed that bio-identical hormones work initially, but often fail later if the foundational pieces (like, issues on sleep circadian rhythm, gut health & microbiome, and stomach acid) aren’t addressed. The modern approach has completely ignored these basics while pushing pharmaceutical solutions. Fix the foundation first, then consider targeted hormone therapies if needed. Watch the full podcast episode to learn Dr. Austin Lake’s protocol for women’s health optimisation! Join the Ultimate Human VIP community: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg “Robert F. Kennedy: A Spiritual Biography” by Konstantin Sidorenko Listen to "The MAHA Podcast" on all your favorite platforms! Spotify Apple Podcasts Connect with Dr. Austin Lake: Get Dr. Austin Lake’s book, “Wholly Health” here Website: https://bit.ly/41GoynV YouTube:https://bit.ly/4h8lS75 Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ieLXlM TikTok: https://bit.ly/4h4Ioxt Facebook: https://bit.ly/4bsdvlf Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E STRENGTH TRAINING EQUIPMENT - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN: https://bit.ly/3zYwtSl COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST $50+ ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE PARKER PASTURES - PREMIUM GRASS-FED MEATS: https://bit.ly/4hHcbhc AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:04 Parabolic Rise on Metabolic Syndrome, Diabetes, Autism 06:57 Control over Fertility 09:04 Why Focus on Women’s Health and Functional Medicine? 13:55 Caregiver Syndrome 17:59 History of Birth Control 22:08 Depression Anxiety from Birth Control 36:54 Lifestyle Changes for Self-Correcting Hormonal Imbalance 45:45 Clinical Deficiency, Nicotine, and COVID Deaths 48:48 Healing Powers from Alkaloid 50:48 Healing from Metal Toxicity 54:44 Hormone Therapies for Women 59:17 Supplementation for Women 1:03:52 Common Misconceptions on Hormone Therapy 1:07:32 Role of Faith and Belief in a Higher Power 1:16:15 What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  A 16 year old or even a 13 year olds on birth control to control an issue that doesn't actually solve any problems, but creates a lot more problems. You start seeing the side effects of not having ovulation and that's a big problem long term. And you start seeing issues like endometriosis and PCOS.

• 0:14Gary Brecka?

  You look at these young, healthy childbearing women and you wonder, why is it so difficult to get pregnant? Why is it so difficult to maintain a pregnancy?

• 0:21Speaker 00

  Because of insulin resistance, right? You got all these high carb refined carbohydrates being consumed in conjunction with endocrine disrupting chemicals, you know, fragrances, lotions, lathering on their skin. And next thing you know, you have this hormonal storm that happens.

• 0:32Gary Brecka?

  You think about the fact that limiting that phase of the menstrual cycle could have that profound of an effect on a woman that she might not be thinking about. I don't think very often their OBGYN is explaining the consequences.

• 0:43Speaker 00

  These women are getting testing done. They'll come back in six months and they'll put on hormone replacement therapy and things will change short term, but then they go right back to where they were because they're fixed any of the foundational problems that were existing. And they don't know that there are alternative options out there.

• 0:55Gary Brecka?

  When we look at the pandemic of autoimmune disease, the majority of this affects women. 75 or 80% of all autoimmune diseases are having to females.

• 1:02Speaker 00

  And that's why things like this is so important for people to know, like you can improve your fertility and you can do these things and it's very inexpensive and most people can do it. Like that's so empowering to know that that's an option.

• 1:11Gary Brecka?

  For women that are having hormonal imbalance, where do they start?

• 1:14Speaker 00

  This was like a more recent revelation that I had about.

• 1:30Gary Brecka?

  Hey guys, welcome back to the ultimate human podcast. I'm your host, Gary Brecka, human biologist, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, longevity, biohacking, and everything in between. And I am super excited for today's guest on the podcast because we don't really get a lot of time to shed light on specifically women's health issues. And our next guest is an expert, as you heard, on women's health issues, everything women, menopause, cycling, birth, birth control, everything in between. And just so happens, my wife is having the worst menstrual cramps of her life. And she was like, I want, I want to come in and ask him questions during your podcast. So she's, she's waiting for you literally right outside the door.

• 2:14Speaker 00

  Great. Good to know.

• 2:15Gary Brecka?

  Welcome to the podcast, Dr. Austin Lake.

• 2:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, thanks for having me, Gary. It's been, I was very. Honored to get the invitation and honestly, the timing was great because we had the invitation, then we met at the Maha Gala and it was like just meant to be.

• 2:29Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, we had just set it up and then we, you know, met at the Maha Gala.

• 2:31Speaker 00

  Perfect timing, so yeah.

• 2:32Gary Brecka?

  And I love that movement. I mean, you know, Bobby Kennedy's officially confirmed now. So at the time, he didn't praise God, he meant to that. You know, at the time, he wasn't really in a capacity, official capacity. But that, not to get totally off topic, because I know there's a lot of women like, hey, I want to talk about my menstrual cramps. But what was amazing was, dude, the energy surrounding, I mean, the whole inauguration, but specifically at that ball. And, and also how many people are just freely giving their time. You know, folks like yourself and me and Casey Means and Callie and Food Babe and Paul Saladino.

• 3:13Gary Brecka?

  And, you know, so many of, of, you know, the folks in our, our industry are really excited about the opportunity to affect public policy, really maybe really make a change.

• 3:25Speaker 00

  I think there's, there's the grassroots effect that has to be there. So there needs to be, I think, a bottom up and a top down to kind of solve the whole problem, right? And so we have to have the top down. And I think that's what RFK is going to give us the best chance for. I mean, there's not many options out there. When you compare to our last HSS secretary.

• 3:43Gary Brecka?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 3:43Speaker 00

  To him, I think we got a pretty good chance to make some change.

• 3:46Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I, I would, I would really agree, agree with that. And it's just so awesome to see our industry, you know.

• 3:53Speaker 00

  Participating in it.

• 3:54Gary Brecka?

  Because, you know, even in the biohacking world, we obviously all don't agree on everything all the time. But that's the one thing we absolutely are, you know, enormously united on.

• 4:03Speaker 00

  Well, there's core principles to it, right? Like, most biohackers or just people that are in this more alternative health space understand, like, there are core principles to health that you can't skip over. And I think our government has different ideas on that and they think you can. And I think that's why we're seeing such issues with our health. It's just, we've skipped over these core foundational principles of what it means to be a healthy human being. And you can't do that. Like, there's consequences to that. So it doesn't need to be political. I think the whole thing, making this whole conversation political, it's just ridiculous.

• 4:31Gary Brecka?

  It was crazy though, not a single Democrat voted for Bobby Kennedy. Not one. I was like, who wants to be on the side of? You know, the worst healthcare crisis in, in, in modern history that's going on in our country.

• 4:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:42Gary Brecka?

  I like what Bobby Kennedy said because he said, there's no such thing as Republican children and Democratic children.

• 4:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:47Gary Brecka?

  These are, these are God's children.

• 4:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:49Gary Brecka?

  They're, they're our children.

• 4:50Speaker 00

  Right.

• 4:51Gary Brecka?

  And, and the most prosperous thing we can do as a nation is care for that next generation.

• 4:57Speaker 00

  Right. Absolutely.

• 4:58Gary Brecka?

  Right. Because who's gonna, who's gonna be running the show and 77% of our military aged men and women can't enter the military because they're not.

• 5:05Speaker 00

  Qualify.

• 5:06Gary Brecka?

  Qualified from health perspective.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  Unhealthy.

• 5:08Gary Brecka?

  And you got, you know, highest rates of childhood cancer. You've got, you know, um, uh, I don't want to mess up the quote, but you know, 13% of our teens are prepubescent teens or, or pre-diabetic.

• 5:20Speaker 00

  Right.

• 5:20Gary Brecka?

  Or even diabetic.

• 5:21Speaker 00

  Right.

• 5:21Gary Brecka?

  Um, and metabolic syndrome is, is beginning earlier and earlier and earlier. I mean, I think people have this idea that this notion that metabolic syndrome is something you get in your 50s or your 60s or your 70s.

• 5:34Speaker 00

  Historically, that was the case.

• 5:35Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 5:35Speaker 00

  But that's all that, all data at this point.

• 5:37Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 5:37Speaker 00

  When you see the, the complete decline, even in the last 20 years, like since 1990, especially last 30 years, but even the last 20 years, you see a shift where things are doubling and tripling in that short period of time. You have to ask the question of like, what's going on?

• 5:54Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 5:54Speaker 00

  And that's what's so puzzling. Like you said about the Democrat thing. It's like, how could you not?

• 5:58Gary Brecka?

  And you also have to be scared about when you see this parabolic rise, right? So autism rates have gone, and I'm not saying all autism is caused by vaccines or all autism is caused by food diets, but.

• 6:09Speaker 00

  Right.

• 6:09Gary Brecka?

  We ought to be having the conversation of, hey, how did it go from one in 5,000?

• 6:14Speaker 00

  To one in 36.

• 6:15Gary Brecka?

  To one in 36, or I even heard one in 32.

• 6:18Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 6:18Gary Brecka?

  But, um, because this, this stats after that are one in 15, one in 10.

• 6:24Speaker 00

  Well, I heard Joel, I think Joel, he had Dr. Joel Waersch, or he was saying it's one in 22 in California.

• 6:29Gary Brecka?

  Yes. Yeah. He said that on my podcast.

• 6:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:31Gary Brecka?

  And he's a pediatrician. So I, and, and you know, he even said during the course of his practice, the number of autistic kids is parabolic. And, and again, I'm, that's not to say that there's one single cause, but you, you look at the state, the overall state of health in this country. And we want to balance that with our freedom of choice. So I'm not for getting rid of McDonald's or getting rid of smoking or stopping alcohol from being sold, you know?

• 6:55Speaker 00

  It won't work anyway.

• 6:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, it wouldn't work. We already had, we tried prohibition once.

• 6:59Speaker 00

  We tried that once.

• 7:00Gary Brecka?

  The wealthiest people were like the bootleggers.

• 7:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. We'll make it work.

• 7:03Gary Brecka?

  So we don't want to make a black market, but and you also don't want to interrupt freedom of choice, but you also have to have an honest conversation of, well, why are we subsidizing the most chemical laden foods in our food supply and taxing and making costs unaffordable, you know, raw, whole, organic foods.

• 7:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:23Gary Brecka?

  And that's where I think the conversation on public policy needs to happen. And then if you have corruption in public policy, if you have private industry funding, public policy research.

• 7:32Speaker 00

  And I think this is where I that question of, of, okay, if you incentivize people for, for, I don't even personally, I don't even think it's about money. I think it goes much deeper than that. I think it's something to do more because like you could make money off of healthy people, like incentivizing people to get healthier, you can make a bunch of money off that, right? You could. And I think that's what's going to eventually start happening. But I think it really gets at a deeper issue of like just nefariousness. I think there's like a, like a heart and soul issue of why people would want to see people not flourish and prosper and also not to be able to replace a population because that's what we're seeing now is we can't, we can't replace our populations with what we're currently doing.

• 8:11Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. Oh, no doubt.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  That's extremely scary.

• 8:12Gary Brecka?

  I mean, I mean, fertility rates in men and women, sperm counts and then fertility rates in women. I can't tell you how, and I want to have this conversation even more in depth with you on the podcast, but I can't tell you, we, my wife and I started a clinic, you know, I'm not licensed to practice medicine, so I'm a human biologist, but we started a functional wellness clinic about 10 years ago. And I'm very interested to hear why you chose to go down the road of women's health, because that's a huge topic for us. But we started this clinic and just in the seven years that we've been, eight years now that we've been intentionally in that space, you know, we have seen the impact of infertility. I mean, the vast majority of our clients that were coming in for hormone

• 8:57Gary Brecka?

  therapy and young, young couples were having trouble either getting pregnant, whether it had to do with the sperm counts, whether it had to do with the fertility of the female or whether it had to do with miscarriages, you know, frequent miscarriages. And it became such a hot topic within our clinic system because, you know, you look at these otherwise young, healthy. Childbearing women and young, healthy male, and you wonder why can't they naturally conceive? Why are these, why are these birth rates? I mean, why is it so difficult to get pregnant? Why is it so difficult to maintain a pregnancy? And so I think a lot of that conversations is going to start in earnest, you know, because of this movement.

• 9:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:41Gary Brecka?

  So.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  Well, I think, I think because if people don't, if they, again, if they associate it with, I can't get pregnant because of some external factor. And they don't realize, oh, I actually have some control over my fertility. And there are things that I can do to change it. I don't have to be on, maybe I don't do IVF, right? I don't have to just say no and look at adoption. Like, I can actually get my body in a state where fertility is more likely. Like, I think that's where that empowerment piece is so important to people. But it gets back to your belief to even understand that it's possible. People don't know it's possible. Like, I think that's just the card, the hands have been dealt and they don't know that there, there are alternative options out there. And that's why things like this is so important for people to know, like, hey, you know, I was watching this podcast and they were talking about how you can,

• 10:23Speaker 00

  you can improve your fertility and you can do these things and it's very free or it's free or like very inexpensive. And most people can do it. Like, that's so empowering to know that that's an option.

• 10:32Gary Brecka?

  What made you go the, you know, women's health route and functional medicine?

• 10:37Gary Brecka?

  Cause you haven't, I mean, you're very educated. You have a really interesting career. You went to Tennessee for your.

• 10:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Tennessee, yeah, that was, well, so that's, that was where I got my doctor. So I'm not a physician either. I don't prescribe medications. I don't even prescribe hormones.

• 10:49Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  I think there's plenty of people out there that do that. What I saw was that they were doing those things and it still wasn't working. And they're on all these medications, thyroid problems, you know, hormonal issues and chronic pain. I was like, I just started asking like, how do you, how do you sleep? You know, what do you, what, what supplements do you take? What's your diet like? And I started asking these questions back in 2017 and realized that those things were not being done. And yet we're assuming that they have a deficiency of medication. When the reality is they have all these deficiencies that aren't being met. And so I started seeing that happen. And then I started seeing a lot of women come through my practice, just like having all those issues, way more than men.

• 11:30Gary Brecka?

  And I think. When you say your practice, what, what kind of practice do you have?

• 11:33Speaker 00

  So it, so we have a, so. It used to be a brick and mortar practice in Colorado. We had, he wasn't a business partner then, and now we're, we took a break and we're business partners again. He's a, he's an MD, functional medicine certified and all that. And so we created this practice, functional medicine-based, alternative health practice. Just out of need, like we saw a huge need in our local community in Colorado, Northern Colorado, and started to kind of just help women and men at that time, but we had way more women coming in with health problems. And I started to figure out, you know, I was just like, these, these women are not getting help with the implementation of this information. Like, they're getting testing done, they'll come back in six months and they'll get put on a home replacement therapy and things will

• 12:17Speaker 00

  change short-term, but then they go right back to where they were because they're fixed any of the foundational problems that were existing. And so, I started to ask the question like, well, if they're not going to take, like, if, if somebody else is like, who else is going to do this if it's not for me? That was kind of the question I asked. It's like, I can't assume that somebody else is going to do this. Like, I have to be the one to fill the void here. So, let's start filling the void. That combined with the fact that my mom had a ton of health problems. She was the ultimate mom, gave of herself all the time to a fault, to where she had nothing There's a problem right there. To give, yeah, to a fault. And a brother had cancer when he was 14. Parents had an extreme amount of stress that they were going through. Mom became a really big worrier, rightfully so,

• 13:00Speaker 00

  you know, seeing your 14-year-old son go through cancer and leukemia and all this terrible things that he had to go through. And then the financial consequences of the care they had to purchase, or I guess afford and all that. It was really difficult to do that with insurance and stuff. And so, it put a ton of stress on my parents. And then it affected, my mom got, she has adult onset Stille's disease. It's a pretty rare autoimmune condition. Her ferritin is sky-high all the time because she's chronically inflamed. Her homocysteine is chronically high, very, very, the highest I've ever seen, actually. Wow. So her blood pressure probably. Blood pressure is her. Your blood pressure is okay, but she's very, and I hope she's okay with me sharing all this information.

• 13:41Gary Brecka?

  I hope so too.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, she should be.

• 13:43Gary Brecka?

  27, 28 million people.

• 13:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, not a big deal.

• 13:45Gary Brecka?

  It was not a big deal.

• 13:47Speaker 00

  But she's, she's like very, she's, she's an excellent mom, but she gives of herself so much, right? And so that, that's what I started seeing with my clients is like, okay, this is how my mom was. And this is what's caused in her life. And is this happening to these other women? Like, so what's, what's your, what's your sleep routine like? What's your sleep hygiene like? Well, you know, I take care of everybody. I, I feed them all, clean up the house and then I have a little bit of time for myself. And so I don't want to go to bed right away and have, you know, like a decent bedtime. Like I'll stay up till 11, 11:30 and then I get like a second wind. I can't fall asleep and then I'm up and I have a hard time sleeping throughout the night. What's your morning like? Well, I wake up tired, I drink a bunch of caffeine, you know, I don't eat breakfast and I kind of skip all that stuff. And then I go to the gym, I work out really hard and can't lose weight. I'm just like, okay, so like, I'm starting to see this pattern here.

• 14:27Speaker 00

  Like I'm seeing why this is happening, but I had to figure out the why behind my client, like with my clients, like why it was happening. Because if you just say, hey, you gotta do these things.

• 14:35Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 14:36Speaker 00

  And they're like, okay, great, but transferring that over to my life logistically is not that easy. And it's like, well, it can be if you start to kind of break it down in these little micro goals to where you can start to understand. If you, if you eat after six o'clock at night, your insulin becomes a little bit less sensitive. You know, your, your cortisol is going to be affected. So your sleep is going to be affected and then you're going to be tired the next day. And so if you don't break that cycle, you can't expect your hormones, which are being produced at night to be well supplied.

• 15:03Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 15:03Speaker 00

  You can't expect that your, that your immune system is going to be well supplied either. Cause your natural T cells, killer T cells are going to be greatly reduced from having poor sleep. And so your, your thyroid is going to be more subject to, to issues. And so you start showing them kind of how this stuff happens. And then they're like, oh, I need to go to bed at a consistent time.

• 15:22Gary Brecka?

  We are incredible circadian creatures. And I think what you're touching on is when we look at the pandemic of autoimmune disease, the majority of this affects women. It's 75 or 80% of all autoimmune diseases are having to females.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  And like five day times more than, than males.

• 15:37Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. I mean, why, why, why is it so much more of a female issue than a male issue? And I think it has to do with how. Selfless most women are, you know, we, we used to call in mortality statistics, we used to call it caregiver syndrome. Sometimes they would call it broken heart syndrome, you know, for spouses that have been married a long period of time.

• 15:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:58Gary Brecka?

  But, you know, women are generally the first to put themselves right in the backseat.

• 16:01Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 16:01Gary Brecka?

  And say, I'm going to care for my spouse, I'm going to care for the kids and of course, and then, then their mother falls ill and now they're caring for the whole family.

• 16:08Speaker 00

  Right.

• 16:09Gary Brecka?

  And so everybody's needs go before them and they think that that's a very selfish thing to do.

• 16:14Speaker 00

  Right.

• 16:15Gary Brecka?

  Sort of selfish to take care of themselves.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  So I, I kind of look at, from like, as a Christian, like a biblical perspective on that conversation, I look at, I look at the husband and the wife, right? It's like, from, from the get go, if you believe in Adam and Eve, which I do, like you look at the tendency that we all have from more of like a, you know, sinful nature, whatever. It's, men tend to be a little more passive. We have a leadership role, maybe that we're supposed to be fulfilling and we are like, I don't really, that's too much. Like, I don't really want to do that. So we kind of passing up, things off to our spouse. And I think women kind of have this like, okay, well, I guess I'll pick up and I'll, I'll run with it and I'll run the show here.

• 16:50Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  So you're taking on all your regular responsibilities, family, the house, work, financials, all this stuff. And then it's like, we expect them to have good functioning hormones.

• 17:01Gary Brecka?

  Mm hmm.

• 17:01Speaker 00

  And our society is full of passive men and very strong, like women who want to take charge.

• 17:08Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 17:09Speaker 00

  And I think we gotta have a balance to that, you know, we have to have a balance to how we're going to manage that long-term. Short-term, I think, you know, having a, a female who wants to build a career and wants to like gain education and like work out, like that, that can work. Like you can do that, but you have to have this like, this offloading of these responsibilities in some capacity. And I think our society, financially or whatever, even just from our perspective on, on sex, like I think we have this idea that. It has to be a certain way. I just think that's, I think it's leading to our demise when it comes to our health problems. It's encouraging people to destroy their bodies.

• 17:44Gary Brecka?

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• 18:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, and now it's, now it's just virtual. So it was brick and mortar. Now we just do 100% virtual.

• 18:55Gary Brecka?

  That's great. And I think that's the way to go. And I think, you know, eventually with, with AI and big data and early detection and yeah, telemedicine laws, it's, it's actually going to make this more accessible, not less accessible. I think we also have to modernize the way that we're practicing medicine. It's okay for someone that's been seen by a physician, maybe examined, that's now having a virtual, right, visit with another physician.

• 19:21Speaker 00

  It's more glorified coaching or consulting, you know, and that's, I think people need that more than they even realize.

• 19:27Gary Brecka?

  So, so let's, let's start with women. I want to start at a young age and I want to kind of work our way through post-menopausal because there are lots of questions all along the. The path and you know, I have two daughters. I have a daughter and a stepdaughter. My daughter's 26, my stepdaughter's 16, so she's in the thick of it now, meaning, you know, the choices about centering around birth control and, you know, the prepubescent acne that's now kind of gone away and, and you know, all the hormonal changes that are going on in their life, which is a lot of fun.

• 20:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm sure. I can't wait to experience it. She's gonna watch this podcast, so I won't say her name.

• 20:09Gary Brecka?

  Kimbo Hoi, or King Abreka.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  Nothing to do with that.

• 20:14Gary Brecka?

  She's amazing, but, but you know, I went through with my daughter too, with the, the, you know, a lot of parents are, you know, watching this and that conversation about birth control is coming up.

• 20:24Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 20:24Gary Brecka?

  And maybe because they have hemorrhagic periods, but maybe also just for, for birth control. And I saw a podcast that you were on, which one it was, but you were talking about birth control and the history of birth control. And it, it was like watching Bobby Kennedy talk about some of these public policy issues. It absolutely blew my mind. And I thought that I was pretty well versed in that area. I mean, I certainly understand.

• 20:46Speaker 00

  You know a lot of stuff, so yeah.

• 20:48Gary Brecka?

  I mean, I certainly understand what they do hormonally, right? SHBG and those other things, but I didn't know about the history of birth control. So can we talk about that a little bit? And then I want to start talking about, you know, young women and the duration of birth control and what kind of effects it has.

• 21:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. So from my understanding of the history, Margaret Sanger was one of the pioneers in the early 1920s of the eugenics movement, right? They were for this whole kind of pure society. So they wanted to kind of control population and ensure that, I mean, it was very racist. It was very discrimination, discriminatory and very much in line with Nazism and all that stuff. So not, not a good place to start.

• 21:26Gary Brecka?

  Like white Aryan wanted.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  A pure, pure society.

• 21:30Gary Brecka?

  Pure society.

• 21:30Speaker 00

  Like white society, I guess. And so a lot of this birth control was directed through Planned Parenthood in these, these areas that were, you know, not white. They were more, you know, lower income and maybe different ethnicities. And I was a tongue twister, but they were just, they were kind of targeting these certain areas of, of the population they didn't want, right? And so that was kind of the, the beginning point of that. And I think since then Planned Parenthood has obviously separated themselves with Margaret, but. The thing that concerned me was looking into when birth control became a big deal was mostly in the seventies, like it became a little bit more popular. And there was a different doctor involved with that that kind of formulated that. And looking at the connection there with

• 22:15Speaker 00

  the feminist movement was also when that was happening. So it was empowerment of women, which again, we want women to vote, we want women to have free speech, like all those things are good. Like, there's no question about that, right? But it was more about, hey, if you want to get out and work, like you don't want to be having babies, right? So like, let's just stop your ovulation cycle and like, let's just, you don't need to worry about that, right? And so you start having more women doing that. And I think it's just, that has only increased since the seventies. And to where now, a 16 year old is being put on birth control, or even a 13 year old's on birth control, to control an issue that doesn't actually solve any problems, but creates a lot more problems. You know, you start seeing the, the side effects of not having ovulation and not having a, a proper cleansing of your, of your uterus. Like that, that's a big problem long term.

• 22:59Speaker 00

  And you start seeing issues like endometriosis and, you know, maybe PCOS, depending on how far it goes.

• 23:05Gary Brecka?

  Gosh, there's so much PCOS out there.

• 23:06Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 23:07Gary Brecka?

  This polycystic ovarian syndrome.

• 23:08Speaker 00

  Because of insulin resistance, right? You got all these high carb, refined carbohydrates being consumed in conjunction with endocrine disrupting chemicals, you know, fragrances, lotions, you know, people think are, especially young girls, lathering on their system and on their skin. And next thing you know, you have this, this hormonal storm that happens.

• 23:26Gary Brecka?

  And you're emitting a third of the menstrual cycle because you're essentially blocking the ovulation.

• 23:30Speaker 00

  Ovulation.

• 23:31Gary Brecka?

  So they're, they're going through the follicular and the luteal.

• 23:33Speaker 00

  Phases, yeah.

• 23:34Gary Brecka?

  Phases, but not.

• 23:35Speaker 00

  Not ovulation.

• 23:36Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  Which is, which is really when women are probably at their strongest and most resilient and high energy. So you kind of take a woman who's like, going through a full gamut of, of emotions and energy cycles and just how they feel. And then you take out the best period of that cycle. And it's like, you're dropping their. The way they feel like drastically. And that's why I think depression, anxiety is so high in women that take birth control. I mean, it's, I think it's 30% or more, maybe are having pretty severe anxiety and depression when they're on birth control. Like that's, and again, it's a third, you know, you're missing a third of that.

• 24:08Gary Brecka?

  And I mean, when we say that it affects your emotions or affects your mood, it also affects your desires, meaning like, what are you attracted to? What are you not attracted to?

• 24:18Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 24:19Gary Brecka?

  You know, I've, I've looked at data that, that showed that, you know, women on birth control have a completely different attraction to their spouse or significant other than when they're not on birth control.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, I've seen that.

• 24:32Gary Brecka?

  I was astounded by that. I mean, you know, I'd hate to be like the dude that's wife gets off birth control and it's like, hey, I also want to divorce.

• 24:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. Just so you know.

• 24:42Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. You know, I'm not really attracted to anymore. But you think about the, the fact that, you know, limiting that phase of the menstrual cycle could have that profound of an effect on, on a woman that she might not be thinking about.

• 24:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:55Gary Brecka?

  Because we think that it's so simple. Well, if ovulation is the cycle duration where I'm most at risk for getting pregnant, then I'll just stop that.

• 25:03Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 25:03Gary Brecka?

  Now, things are simple again. No big deal. But you, you think back to this circadian biology and, you know, when you start really interrupting the circadian biology, I mean, I had a client that I was sitting with, with a doctor, our clinic director is a board certified OB-GYN. And she was mid, late 40s, like peri premenopausal area. And she'd been to a bunch of hormone doctors and they told her, well, all your hormones are in range, but when you actually look at the range that they're in, they were in different ranges. You know, some are ovulating, some are in the luteal.

• 25:35Speaker 00

  You gotta look at day 21 typically when you're optimizing that.

• 25:38Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. So, you know, so you're not a fan of birth control because I want to get, I want to actually come back to this, this, this client. I want to work my way up through, through the ages of, of women, like what can they do or how, how can they go about making this decision? Cause parents are concerned that their, you know, young daughters are going to be sexually active and, and obviously they're considering birth control.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 26:03Gary Brecka?

  But not understanding the consequences. And I don't think very often their OB-GYN is explaining the consequences.

• 26:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, thoroughly enough. I think, yeah, so if you had, if you had a teenager.

• 26:14Speaker 00

  And I'm trying to like picture my own daughters here. It's like how I would talk to them. Five and three.

• 26:19Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 26:19Speaker 00

  And then I have a seven year old son and then a four month old son.

• 26:22Gary Brecka?

  Okay. Wow. You got four?

• 26:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:25Gary Brecka?

  Wow, you're active dude.

• 26:25Speaker 00

  He has six. Yeah.

• 26:27Gary Brecka?

  You got six dude? Holy cow.

• 26:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:30Gary Brecka?

  I got three. I picked up one along the way and um.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  Hey, any one and one and more is great. Yeah.

• 26:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I mean, and I and I love it. I make fun of it, but I used to always tease my wife and she used to hate it. Maybe that's why she's my ex-wife now, but um. When we had our third kid.

• 26:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:46Gary Brecka?

  And she would leave town and leave me with the kids. I'm like, look, before you leave, just pick your favorite two. And I promise you they'll be here when you get back. But three is just too much for mine.

• 26:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're playing zone defense.

• 26:55Gary Brecka?

  And I have ADHD and I didn't know what it was back then. So.

• 26:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:58Gary Brecka?

  You know, but I can keep an eye on two, but the third one's gonna wander. I don't know where it's gonna go.

• 27:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:03Gary Brecka?

  So and she's like, I hate it when you say that. It's like my babies. Just trying to make her feel guilty for leaving.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  No, that's true. Yeah, I think um, so if it were my kids, if it were my daughters, uh, I think the the whole sex conversations, uh, that's its own conversation by itself, right? Like kids are gonna go off and do things that are maybe not what you planned for them to do.

• 27:24Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 27:25Speaker 00

  But I think if you, if if somebody, if somebody's saying you need to be on birth control, the first question I would ask is like, okay, well, what are they, like, what symptoms are they having? What kind of problems? Like, is this something that's um, you're trying to um, control like with with menstrual cramping before cycle begins? Like, is it debilitating in that way? Okay, if it is, like, what are you doing leading up to the beginning of her menstrual cycle? Because once you enter that luteal phase, your need for, you know, B vitamins increases, magnesium increases, omega three increases um, as a foundation. And then you also understand that you're gonna be kind of on the tail end of this bell curve. And if you start here at the follicle follicle phase and you kind of get ovulation, you kind of hit the luteal luteal phase,

• 28:08Speaker 00

  it really is like you're kind of coming off this high, right? And that that high is gonna require you to understand like, I maybe I shouldn't be exercising quite as hard as I happen. And a lot of these young athletes that are being pushed and pushed and pushed. Not considering their cycle and not like that's such a conversation I think should be so foundational. But whoever does that, like what coach is like, okay, girls, like where are you at in your cycles? Yeah, right. Where are you at in your cycles? Instead, it's like, go, go, go, go, push, push, push. And it's like, hey, they may not actually have it in the tank right now. Right. And we can work on getting it in the tank, but having the understanding that when female bodies are not consistent, like a male, males hormones are very consistent. For a long time, females are all over the place. And that's why I think female are so challenging is that we're not considering those fluctuations. Right.

• 28:52Speaker 00

  And I think that's, that would be the first thing is just like, are we pushing our daughter too hard? Yeah. Is she pushing herself too hard? If her coach was pushing herself too hard, is she sleeping? So can you read the conversation? Is she, she taking basic supplements? You know, is she, is she MTHFR? Does she have MTHFR? I love that you're talking about MTHFR. Yeah. Nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about that. And women have it more often than men. Yeah. And so it's like. Significantly more. Significantly, yeah, what 60, 40 or something like that? Yeah. Yeah. 60. Yeah. So like that, those kinds of conversations, just having that awareness of like, what are they actually up against? On a consistent basis. And then obviously you have to touch on food. Like if they're eating everything else that their school's feeding them or their friends are consuming, and they're consuming all these processed foods, like all the things that you always talk about that I love.

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Like it's like, if that's a part of their daily regimen, where their insulin's becoming less sensitive, where their inflammation's skyrocketing, their omega sixes are off the chart, and they're deficient in all these other things, vitamin D, omega threes. Like you cannot expect that their hormonal building blocks are going to be there for their thriving of their, of their body. Cause like they're pushing, they're pushing a survival response through cortisol. And that directly will tank progesterone and that will directly affect conversion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, sleep and then it'll affect their conversion of estrogens from testosterone and that aromatase pathway. And that's where PCOS becomes a lot more problematic for these younger women. And so I think there's so many things that need to be done before birth control is even considered.

• 30:17Speaker 00

  Let alone the prevention of a child, but like just in terms of prevention of the symptoms. We have to figure out like, what are we trying to accomplish here? And I think that's, that's the starting point.

• 30:26Gary Brecka?

  And I think a lot of it is obviously preventing pregnancy, but a lot of it is also like hemorrhagic, you know, menstrual cycles. I mean, cause I, we see that a lot in our, our clinic that they're coming to our OB GYN and saying, you know, it's just, I mean, they're in school and they're exhausted because they're losing, losing.

• 30:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, losing a lot of their anemic.

• 30:46Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, they're anemic basically for.

• 30:48Speaker 00

  Short term.

• 30:49Gary Brecka?

  And, and they're exhausted and, and already, especially in high school, you know, high school starts the earliest. I have, my understanding is we're going to actually start to change this, but I always thought it was odd that as my kids went from kindergarten to grade school to grammar school, you know, and then eventually to, to high school, that the, the start times got earlier.

• 31:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:12Gary Brecka?

  You know, my sixth grader started at nine AM. My ninth grader started at seven AM.

• 31:16Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 31:16Gary Brecka?

  And it's a big difference because you know, you gotta be in class to start at seven AM. Which means you're getting school six thirty, six forty-five, whatever.

• 31:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:24Gary Brecka?

  Which means you're probably getting them five thirty, six o'clock at the latest.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:27Gary Brecka?

  And I, I still remember, you know, driving my daughter to school, you know, to high school and just, you know, pulling into the, the parking lot and just watching the zombies walk in. And you could tell like that kid has not been up for more than 10 minutes.

• 31:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, right.

• 31:42Gary Brecka?

  Ten minutes ago, literally they were still asleep.

• 31:44Speaker 00

  Playing video games two hours ago.

• 31:45Gary Brecka?

  Hair messy, you know, sweats, some of them Starbucks coffees, there's sort of. And, and, and I know there's a whole conversation around the fact that, you know, teenagers actually need more sleep. These aren't lazy teens.

• 31:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 31:55Gary Brecka?

  They're growing.

• 31:56Speaker 00

  Physiological for sure.

• 31:57Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, it's physiological. And when you have all that biological activity in the body, it's exhausting. Growing is exhausting. You know, um, my, my son, I noticed the same thing, both of, both of my sons, um, you know, when they're playing sports and they were just coming home. Sometimes he would come home from, from football practice and just literally eat, go straight to bed.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:17Gary Brecka?

  Um, and was still exhausted when he was waking.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  Right, you can never recover.

• 32:19Gary Brecka?

  But, but back to the, you know, the women's hormones. So I, I know a lot of mothers are facing this and, um, so you're saying before you're using, uh, you know, you, you think about birth control either as. Prophylactic measure against pregnancy or hemorrhagic periods is to look at the whole picture, this whole idea of, let's call it lifestyle medicine.

• 32:41Speaker 00

  Sure, yeah, absolutely.

• 32:42Gary Brecka?

  And, and I think we start to think of those factors a lot later in life when we don't think about them for teens.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  I never did.

• 32:50Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 00

  I mean, I knew nothing about this stuff and I, my parents didn't know either, you know, and so I think, I think for people like us who are in this world and this is constantly what we do and think about, it's like super obvious, right? Like it's like, oh, just this is what you have to do. But there's somebody else that's not in this world. They have their responsibilities, they have their job. They're doing what they're told and they do what they think is best. And so they think this birth control is the best option. So we love our daughter, let's do what's best for her.

• 33:16Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  But I think if you, if you understand like, okay, maybe we can say like, that's not best.

• 33:20Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  And just like, get that out of the way. Then it just opens the door for people like, let's, let's evaluate our life. Let's figure out what we can do. Again, that's not expensive. Like this is not expensive stuff. Like it doesn't need to be a, a $10,000 a night resort in Mexico to make this happen. Like this is stuff that you can do starting now, but it requires intentionality and discipline and a belief that you can actually impact it and fix it.

• 33:42Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 33:42Speaker 00

  So I think that's where, again, I always have to start there with my clients and just making sure that they understand what's possible. And then from there, we start, we just break down their life. We were talking about this other guy who's like a financial auditor and he'll have people come in on his podcast and he'll just like rip them a new one and be like, you're spending all this money. Like they said they have no money. And then he looks at their, their finances and like, you have way more money than you think you have. You're just like being foolish with it. You're not being intentional. And I, I kind of do it with my clients. It's like, I just look at like, hey, you say you've done everything and nothing works, but have you done this? Like, have you tried getting your circadian rhythm balanced? Have you tried not eating these foods? Have you tried taking these supplements and being consistent with them? Have you actually followed a protocol? Like, have you kind of done some detailed lab work? Like, have you, have you done this stuff?

• 34:19Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 34:20Speaker 00

  Well, I've tried a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

• 34:22Gary Brecka?

  Is this what your active life program is about?

• 34:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:25Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. Talk a little bit about that. Is there, there, is there, so a woman watching this podcast that feels off, right? Feels out of balance, which is very likely hormonal.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:36Gary Brecka?

  Could be a host of other things. And then I want to talk about, you know, autoimmune conditions and women as well. But where do they start? You know, what kind of panel do they pull? Where do they start? What are some of the biggest things that move the needle the most?

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:50Gary Brecka?

  For women that are having hormonal imbalance, even like this, this woman that I was speaking of earlier, when I looked at her. Labs, I was like, well, look, you know, it looks to me like, first of all, you're completely out of phase.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 35:02Gary Brecka?

  So the level of your hormones doesn't matter as much as your ratios.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  Sure. Absolutely.

• 35:07Gary Brecka?

  And your ratios are way off, even though they're in the normal range.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. One's really high, one's really low, and you have estrogen dominance.

• 35:15Gary Brecka?

  Right, and you have estrogen dominance, and then they blow up like a balloon, and they think that they're fat, but they're not, they're just retaining water in that interstitial space. And estrogen is very good at doing that. There are gene mutations like COMT that don't allow estrogen to be eliminated as like the E2 pathway as well, and so then they start retaining a bunch of water.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:33Gary Brecka?

  And nothing is more frustrating to a woman than like doing everything right.

• 35:38Speaker 00

  Diet and exercising, and they're not gaining, or they're losing, they're not losing any weight, they may be gaining weight.

• 35:42Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 35:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, so we start with whatever labs they've had done, we kind of analyze where they currently are. Most panels are pretty basic, so we can kind of facilitate and recommend like what they think they should get, and we'll usually start with, you know, looking at micronutrients, making sure that they have sufficient B vitamins, you know, vitamin.

• 36:01Gary Brecka?

  Amazing.

• 36:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, we have to, you have to start with that. Omega 3, we do a fatty acid panel, just to make sure that they have that box checked.

• 36:07Gary Brecka?

  So can you see the omega 6s off the chart when you do that?

• 36:10Speaker 00

  I've only had one person that was not, like on the extreme side of the range, like they were actually like in the moderate area of the range with their omega 3 to omega 6 fatty acid ratio. Most people are like so off the charts with omega 6s, it's unbelievable.

• 36:25Gary Brecka?

  And what do you attribute that to? Seed oils?

• 36:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, seed oils or diet, I mean, a deficiency of omega 3s in our food that they're consuming, so they're not getting any balance.

• 36:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I think everybody needs to substitute with omega 3s.

• 36:36Speaker 00

  I heard you talking on a podcast, and my wife Carly, she showed it to me, and she's like, I wondered if he's like seeing what you talk about, because he asked, like, what are the top five things you recommend everybody should do?

• 36:46Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 36:46Speaker 00

  And like, you recommended the things, and I was like, he's like, that's exactly what you recommend. It's like, I agree, it's like, you gotta have vitamin D3 with K2, you gotta have magnesium, you gotta make sure you have sufficient omega 3 fatty acids, and you know, you can throw in a couple of different things, multivitamin, B complex, whatever, but like, those are so crucial to just basic foundational health.

• 37:04Gary Brecka?

  I agree.

• 37:04Speaker 00

  For the human being, and they're, they're not being, like, I talk about it all the time, and I know you talk about it all the time too, but it's still, people don't know about it. I'm just like, how is this next?

• 37:12Gary Brecka?

  You know, part of me thinks it's too simple, like, you know, people want something extra, more extra complicated, and I don't even sell those things.

• 37:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 37:19Gary Brecka?

  And so that freaks people out. But, and you know, I get accused of trying to Push things all the time. Like I said, it didn't, you can go to a thorn, you can go to peer encapsulation. You can go to

• 37:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's, there's a lot of options out there.

• 37:34Gary Brecka?

  Lot of great options out there, but these are the basics.

• 37:36Speaker 00

  Right. You can't skip the basics.

• 37:37Gary Brecka?

  And, and I think too, that, you know, my research, well, not my personal research, sorry, the research that I was reviewing when, when I was in that industry.

• 37:48Gary Brecka?

  There was clear pathways between nutrient deficiencies and the expression of, of disease. And I believe that the root of a lot of these consequences of aging, just based in missing raw materials. I mean, if you don't have enough DHEA, for example, you're never going to construct certain hormones. If your cortisol is off the charts, or you have adrenal fatigue, you're, you're not going to make certain hormones, especially at night, when your body's actually creating these.

• 38:18Speaker 00

  When it's necessary.

• 38:19Gary Brecka?

  And we're such circadian creatures. So let's talk about a basic panel. And then for listeners right now, especially my, my female audience, what, what's lifestyle changes make the greatest impact on self correcting hormonal imbalances?

• 38:37Speaker 00

  So we'll start with the first visit I do with my clients is we'll, we'll walk through their life, all the kind of things we're talking at the beginning of the podcast, just like, what is holding you back from being consistent? Like what, like what true obstacles do you really have? Cause some people have legitimate obstacles in a way. We can't change everything, but we meet them where they are. And I provide them a meal plan that I've, it's an elimination style process we go through. I call it diagnostic because it really is kind of helpful to diagnose like what, I, you know, I always say like, what healthy foods are not healthy for you? And what I mean by that.

• 39:09Gary Brecka?

  What healthy foods are not healthy for you?

• 39:11Speaker 00

  What I mean by that is that, eggs, for example, that's a big spectrum of what quality is, and also how your immune system responds to it. Eggs are a superfood. Like if you do well, they're fantastic. If you don't, they trash your immune system. And so

• 39:27Gary Brecka?

  If you do well, you mean if you aren't allergic to the egg proteins?

• 39:30Speaker 00

  Right. If you're not, or the egg proteins are just like what's being in, what's in the egg, corn and soy and all that stuff.

• 39:34Gary Brecka?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  Hyaluronic acid. Yeah. So there's that conversation of like, hey, we got to figure out if that's a problem for you. But the only way to figure that out, at least in my opinion, is to get them to where they feel better. So the first four to six weeks, like, I want to see that their, their weight has changed. Cause if they have, if they have this inflammatory weight, like that should start to fall off. I want to see.

• 39:53Gary Brecka?

  From an elimination diet?

• 39:55Speaker 00

  That plus kind of like whatever protocol we get them started on from a supplement perspective. It usually involves the foundational principles that I talked about. Every once in a while, there'll be a couple of variations here and there. We always meet where they are and say, hey, like if you own these supplements that are quality and they the dosages are seem to be sufficient, like let's keep those and start with those. You gotta, you gotta take them, but you gotta start with that. If they don't, I'll make some suggestions on different options and brands that I think are a better fit for them. But it's just, there is recommendations, right? So depending on where we need to go from there, we get that foundation set. We get their sleep circadian rhythm set. We get their hydration.

• 40:30Gary Brecka?

  And how do you, how do you set their sleep circadian rhythm? What, what, what do you tell them are the do's and don'ts for sleep?

• 40:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's all the typical, you know, limit blue light, you know, limit your intake of food a few hours before you go to bed. Make sure you're not over, over hydrating right before bed, cause you need to wake up, go to the bathroom. Make sure your electrolytes and minerals are all balanced beforehand. Make sure that, you know, you're not just zoning out, watching TV before you're trying to go to sleep and then fall asleep ten minutes later and you wake up an hour later and you're all disrupted. And I think the biggest thing that I try to tell people though, is there's this, I like to use this example of missing the bus to sleepy town, which is very childish, but it works for people. And it's just saying like, you know, there's, there's a bus that's going to take you right to sleep. It's the first bus is great. Like if you, it's going to take you right to your destination. You're going to get there feeling refreshed and all good to go the next day. If you miss that bus, like, you know, you're getting tired at eight 30, nine o'clock and like, oh, I'll just push through and

• 41:19Speaker 00

  I'll catch the next bus at 10 30, I'll go to bed then. You may not go to sleep right away. Like you might have a cortisol spike, you're going to have an issue with your melatonin dropping. The next thing you know, you're having a rough road all night long and you wake up feeling tired. And so understanding like.

• 41:33Gary Brecka?

  And the later bus is even worse.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  Oh, it's terrible.

• 41:35Gary Brecka?

  Sometimes catch a second wind. That happens to my wife all the time.

• 41:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, second wind phenomenon.

• 41:38Gary Brecka?

  Like you're like Captain Chatty at one in the morning.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  Right, you gotta, you gotta cut it off here. Yeah, but it, but it makes sense for monthly, right? And so, and again, for women to understand how cortisol will directly affect their progesterone and how it'll affect their sex hormones is critical because there, you're, you're, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Kind of situation with your hormones. Like there is a certain number of hormones you can make from your cholesterol and it's going to be diverted depending on what your body needs. Cortisol is a surviving hormone. Like if you're like, hey, I'm, I'm stressed out. I'm watching something that's stimulating, you know, I'm staying up past my bedtime and now we're getting into stressful conversation. And now all of a sudden I'm hyped up, like you're not going to fall asleep. Like that's not how your body's designed. Like it's making you more alert. So those basic things, just making sure people understand, and I never assume with anybody, like I always make sure like, this is what we have to do.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  They tell me all the time, I've done everything. I'm like, I, I, I take your word for it there, but more times than not, we're not actually doing it. It gets back to this whole idea of honoring your body and understanding like, what am I trying to do with this? And I can, we can get into that a little bit, but you have to do all those foundational sleep hygiene principles first. Like those are, those are absolute necessities. Now, in terms of supplements.

• 42:44Gary Brecka?

  You can't supplement your way around poor sleep.

• 42:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. But if you, so if you do those things and then you start supplementing with like magnesium glycinate, L-theanine, or you know, something in that ballpark, that's usually enough for most women to start initiating a good sleep cycle. And then from there, if they're having like true insomnia, you know, where they, they can't fall asleep or they can't stay asleep, that's where I have, I have a couple of different protocols I've used in the past where it's like, we'll do a short, short term of a low dose of melatonin, like point, 0.5 milligrams. And if they're not on any SSRIs or anything like that, we'll maybe recommend like 5-HTP for a short period of time, just to kind of help that process get going in condition, or in conjunction with magnesium glycinate or L3-8, depending on what kind of issues they're having.

• 43:27Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, 3-8, yeah.

• 43:28Speaker 00

  That's usually more of like a racing mind, in my opinion, if they're struggling with that.

• 43:31Gary Brecka?

  The 3-8 and the methylfolate, just in my opinion, from my experience with, with clients, seems to work really, really well, especially for women with MTHFR, which my, my wife has.

• 43:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:42Gary Brecka?

  And she'll take methylfolate before bed religiously every night, just a 5-methylfolate.

• 43:47Speaker 00

  Calm the brain down.

• 43:48Gary Brecka?

  And then, and magnesium 3-8, we take something on magnesium breakthrough, which is amazing.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  That's just like a combo, right?

• 43:55Gary Brecka?

  Yes. All seven forms of magnesium. And, and the other thing it does is it makes you very regular.

• 44:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, for sure.

• 44:01Gary Brecka?

  It's, and I always tell, you know, clients that, you know, if you're not having a bowel movement at a relatively consistent period of time, usually within 45 minutes of waking.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:12Gary Brecka?

  That's something that we need to address.

• 44:14Speaker 00

  Well, that's one of the primary ways we detox, right?

• 44:16Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  And so, so many women, they have thyroid issues and they have sluggish bowels, you know, they don't detox. And they're like, I go every once, every couple of days.

• 44:24Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 44:25Speaker 00

  Like, that's not normal. You know, you should be going multiple times a day.

• 44:27Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 44:27Speaker 00

  Ideally, so.

• 44:30Speaker 00

  You want to go more asleep, or do you want to talk about?

• 44:32Gary Brecka?

  Well, I want to continue with, you know, the women. So they get this panel done. You start with the basics. You fix asleep. You you start them on basic supplementation, which I would so far agree with everything that you're saying. And I think these are the simple building blocks. These are the easy building blocks that get really overlooked and they want to go right to hormone therapy. And I want to Which I'm a fan of, but you got

• 44:52Speaker 00

  And we can talk about that too. Yeah. And I think I want to get back to what you said. You said something really interesting of this idea, like it can't be that simple. It must be something more difficult.

• 45:00Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 45:00Speaker 00

  And and sometimes it is really tricky because we're dealing with human beings and you don't always know everything that's going on. But I think I think we want an excuse to to be able to kind of just, you know, do what we want. You know, it's it's hard being consistent.

• 45:14Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  Like, it's hard being disciplined. Like, it's one of those things that.

• 45:19Gary Brecka?

  I think it's one of those, like, choose your heart, you know?

• 45:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. Like, what do you want down the road?

• 45:22Gary Brecka?

  But like, hard work sucks too.

• 45:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, it does.

• 45:24Gary Brecka?

  Being broke is really sucks.

• 45:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:26Gary Brecka?

  I mean, they're both hard.

• 45:26Speaker 00

  But like, the short term satisfaction, short term, you know, instantaneous gratification idea is like, that's what Instagram is all about. Like, it's just hitting that all the time. And so we're getting that programmed into our cells like constantly. So putting our effort towards something that we won't see results on for like two to three weeks, which is, to me, it's like, I mean, I've had people that had fibromyalgia, that had like debilitating hormonal issues, you know, diabetes, autoimmune conditions that were just debilitated. And like, three weeks, they don't, like, their symptoms start going away. And they're just like, I didn't even know this was possible. Like, they lose weight, they start feeling energized, like, what am I supposed to do with this energy? I'm just like, God created our bodies to heal. Like, you cannot miss that.

• 46:07Gary Brecka?

  Amen to that.

• 46:07Speaker 00

  Like, that, like, your body is craving healing.

• 46:10Gary Brecka?

  But you also need the raw materials, right?

• 46:12Speaker 00

  You gotta have the raw materials.

• 46:13Gary Brecka?

  DHEA, elevated SHBG, you know, vitamin D3, which is, I think, the most overlooked

• 46:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:18Gary Brecka?

  supplement in of all.

• 46:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:20Gary Brecka?

  Right? And D3 with some K2. Um, I think that is, that gets overlooked. And so either either in an oil that already has the fat, so it's soluble, or Or with food.

• 46:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, with food.

• 46:32Gary Brecka?

  And you look at the levels of chronic deficiency in vitamin D3, you know, they say it's 50% of the population. I think it's more like 85%.

• 46:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think so too. I would agree.

• 46:40Gary Brecka?

  Especially dark.

• 46:40Speaker 00

  Suboptimal, suboptimal deficiency for sure.

• 46:42Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah, suboptimal.

• 46:44Speaker 00

  That clinical deficiency is like, that's.

• 46:46Gary Brecka?

  Below what? 30, yeah, 30 nanograms.

• 46:48Speaker 00

  And that's crazy too, but like below 55, below.

• 46:51Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 46:51Speaker 00

  Like, that's most people.

• 46:52Gary Brecka?

  And there's some really interesting research around breast cancer risk and other things in women with functional ranges being between 60 and 80, having, you know, preventative.

• 47:01Speaker 00

  Protective, yeah.

• 47:02Gary Brecka?

  And, and I knew from the mortality space that, you know, the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID was a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:11Gary Brecka?

  No one wanted it to be that simple, but it was.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  There was a stat, I'm trying to remember what the percentage was. It was like 70 or 90% of people that died from COVID were like deficient.

• 47:20Gary Brecka?

  Clinical deficiency of vitamin D3, very accurate.

• 47:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:23Gary Brecka?

  Which is wild.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. And also, and also like they're calling it a racist virus because, you know, blacks were having higher death rate, mortality rate because like, well, yeah, they, if they're up in the north, northwest and like you don't get much sun and you have more melanin in your skin, like you're not going to absorb as much UV radiation.

• 47:38Gary Brecka?

  All darker, complected, like Latinos and.

• 47:40Speaker 00

  And there's probably a metabolic issue there too, potentially, but I think the vitamin D component is, uh, yeah, it's so, so critical.

• 47:46Gary Brecka?

  Huge. I mean, it's a huge component. And I think that's where there was this, where it seemed like COVID was a little selective.

• 47:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:51Gary Brecka?

  But it was, I think it was selective to the, the, the biomes that were most likely for it to flourish, which are going to be people that are immunocompromised.

• 47:59Speaker 00

  Have you been hearing about the amount of smokers that didn't die from COVID?

• 48:03Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, because of the nicotine bound to the same receptor.

• 48:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:06Gary Brecka?

  We, nobody wants to talk about that.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  I know. I was hoping to talk about.

• 48:08Gary Brecka?

  I'm not.

• 48:09Speaker 00

  I'm not trying to bring it up on purpose, but like, I thought it was a good opportunity.

• 48:11Gary Brecka?

  I'm like this close to going down the nicotine bandwagon and, you know, the, just, just.

• 48:15Speaker 00

  Well, there's some components to it. Yeah. I think, I think, and we can.

• 48:19Gary Brecka?

  Like non tobacco nicotine, obviously not vaping, not smoking.

• 48:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:22Gary Brecka?

  But some, some folks that I really hold in high regard, um, have sent me some really compelling research.

• 48:28Speaker 00

  Same here.

• 48:28Gary Brecka?

  Nicotine and cancer, nicotine and, uh, viruses, nicotine and cognitive function.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  Testosterone too.

• 48:35Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, testosterone. And we have nicotine receptors and you're right, in, in initial.

• 48:41Gary Brecka?

  You know, in, in early COVID, because it bound to that, those same receptor sites, a lot of smokers were not getting COVID.

• 48:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:47Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 48:47Speaker 00

  Cause they put the nicotine patch.

• 48:48Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Speaker 00

  Right.

• 48:49Gary Brecka?

  They'd be the most unhealthy. There's even some sort of a groundswell now around nicotine and cancer.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:57Gary Brecka?

  Um, you know, before I get anywhere near that, uh, uh, uh, you know, I'll be, I would bring somebody qualified onto the podcast, but, um, I, I've seen the, the positive benefits of the non tobacco nicotine. I think a lot of times it's also the delivery mechanism.

• 49:15Speaker 00

  Right. That's hugely important.

• 49:16Gary Brecka?

  You know, it's.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  Well, cause even, even if you're using like a pouch or something, there's a bunch of aspartame in there, bio, you know, bio engineered food ingredients and stuff like that. So it's like, a lot of gums have, by the way, people will never talk about gum. Like gum's one of the worst things that we're chewing on all day long to have all these chemicals in it, but.

• 49:30Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's just a fun conversation, but I'm the same as you. I'm like, I'm very interested in it.

• 49:34Gary Brecka?

  I'm more open to it than I would have been.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  Oh, a hundred percent.

• 49:37Gary Brecka?

  But the same, I'm, I'm getting the same way with cannabinoids, because we have an endocannabinoid system. We create cannabinoids in the body. Um, people think cannabinoids are THC. They're not.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:46Gary Brecka?

  You know, um, and, you know, and CBD, even, even microdosing of, of mushrooms, you know, they.

• 49:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:53Gary Brecka?

  The, not the psychedelics, but.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:56Gary Brecka?

  You know, reishi, cordyceps, you know, these, uh, you know.

• 49:59Speaker 00

  For cognition and.

• 50:00Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, for cognition, replacing caffeine with those. Um, I, I, I think there's a, a role for all of these things.

• 50:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:08Gary Brecka?

  It's just that they get so abused that as soon as you bring those up, people think of the abusive roles and not possibly.

• 50:15Speaker 00

  Well, it's just, it always gets back to this concept too, of like the things that are coming from our earth that are healing, you know, like there's, um, I think it's an alkaloid, um, from like this Madagascar periwinkle plant. It has.

• 50:28Gary Brecka?

  This is, this is a good.

• 50:29Speaker 00

  I feel like you just made that up.

• 50:30Gary Brecka?

  No, you get, you get.

• 50:31Speaker 00

  Oh, the Madagascar periwinkle plant.

• 50:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  I grow those on my balcony. I, I, I practiced saying that like 20 times.

• 50:37Gary Brecka?

  The Madagascarian periwinkle.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  You don't have periwinkle in your fridge?

• 50:40Gary Brecka?

  Not the Madagascarian.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, not that form.

• 50:42Gary Brecka?

  South Polynesian.

• 50:43Speaker 00

  No, but there's this, there's this alkaloid compound that's, uh, I think it's called vinchristine.

• 50:47Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 50:48Speaker 00

  It's what they use for chemotherapy. It's, it's like $28,000 a gram.

• 50:54Speaker 00

  You know, 10 times what it is for gold. And it's like, so what it does is there's, this is something else that sounds weird, but the shikimate pathway within plants is like what allows this to be produced. And there's other plants that have the same pathway that is producing these alkaloids that are very helpful for the human body, right? When we consume them. Well, glyphosate blocks that pathway. And so there's all these other foods that we're consuming that are not getting, we're not getting this access to these alkaloids that would normally be there. And so you're eating this food that's like cardboard that doesn't have any nutritional, real nutritional value and anti-cancer properties to it. And that to me is just like, they know it's worth that much. They know it's beneficial in that way. And they're harvesting it. But yeah, I didn't hear about this until like a few weeks ago.

• 51:35Gary Brecka?

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• 52:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:14Gary Brecka?

  So the, the, I mean, I know glyphosate is terrible for us. It's one of those forever chemicals.

• 52:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, right.

• 52:19Gary Brecka?

  Interestingly, I accidentally got heavy metal poisoning recently. Yeah, I'm actually in the metal detox now. I'm doing with my VIP community. I'm actually walking in.

• 52:31Speaker 00

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 52:32Gary Brecka?

  Whole protocol.

• 52:32Speaker 00

  What a good opportunity. Yeah.

• 52:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, it was, it was amazing.

• 52:35Speaker 00

  Not so great for you, but you know.

• 52:36Gary Brecka?

  Well, not so great for me, but, but it's an amazing opportunity because a lot of people that, well, you know, have metal toxicity. Number one, they don't know it. And number two, they have no idea what to do. So I've just been very transparent and very, you know, vulnerable and authentic about it and said, here's, here's my blood work and or the collation test that I did. But here's the, the protocol that I'm going to follow to get out of it. Forty-five days are down almost half, which normally would take. Eight months to a year.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 53:03Gary Brecka?

  And so I've been just documenting everything and I got it because I believed a, it wasn't even a friend of mine. It was a doctor that I was referred to that had this machine to reach that he said was restructuring the water and scientifically, the explanation made perfect sense to me and he had, he had a PhD in this arena. It's just that the piece of equipment that he was using was, um, was actually made to be a welder. Not to restructure water. Long story short, um, uh, you know, I ended up getting lead, which is really bad. Um, and also, you know, very high levels of mercury and, and also iron. So I'm key landing those out of my body. I'm doing EBO2, you know, sauna.

• 53:47Speaker 00

  That's great.

• 53:49Gary Brecka?

  I'm using, uh, non-chemical binders like activated charcoal, zeolite.

• 53:52Speaker 00

  Spirulina or anything like that?

• 53:54Gary Brecka?

  What's that?

• 53:54Speaker 00

  Spirulina?

• 53:55Gary Brecka?

  Spirulina.

• 53:56Speaker 00

  Clara.

• 53:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 53:57Speaker 00

  Chloro.

• 53:57Gary Brecka?

  Cholera.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  Cholera.

• 54:00Gary Brecka?

  But my, but my whole point in, in saying that is that, you know, a lot of folks just don't, they don't know what to do when they encounter these, um, you know, toxic or they, or even to test for these things, mold, mycotoxins, viruses, um, heavy metals.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Big point. Yeah.

• 54:16Gary Brecka?

  And a lot of those are flying under the radar of modern medicine because they also don't just pop up on your labs.

• 54:22Speaker 00

  Right.

• 54:23Gary Brecka?

  Right. They don't, they don't usually throw lab values into a tailspin. So they just sort of slip by.

• 54:28Speaker 00

  They're very, very hidden. Um, I had a client recently, she, we, she had mold. Um, so we tested her. She was having terrible issues with thyroid. Estrogen was just all out of control. So I was like, I, do you have any, like, where do you, actually lives in Florida. And so I was like, you have mold issues?

• 54:41Gary Brecka?

  Capital of the world right here. We own a mold lottery in Miami.

• 54:44Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm sure. I can't imagine. And so I was like, have you checked for mold and all that? And we did it. We had her do mold tests and sure enough, uh, zero loan or I can't remember how to say it. Um, it's a type of mold, but it's, it's, it helped or it, it affects estrogen activity, activity, right? And so she was very estrogen dominant, dominant and her, also her thyroid was just completely out of whack. And sure enough, like she's starting to see huge improvement by getting that. But that was something that I didn't even realize.

• 55:07Gary Brecka?

  Well, the amount of metals in, in thyroid issues is, is mind numbing because the thyroid has a special affinity for heavy metals and the amount of mold and mycotoxin that flies under the radar too. But, but, but what I've noticed is when I test the. You know what, what some of these filters are pulling out of my blood. Thankfully, I'm seeing the metals coming out. And my, and my serum levels are dropping and my urine levels are dropping. But, and I feel fine now. I didn't initially. But this, you know, I saw the glyphosate and the aflatoxins. And I was like, wow, somebody like me is getting glyphosate. Now I travel, so you know, occasionally it's, you know, a 16 hour flight. Sure.

• 55:48Gary Brecka?

  I eat, you know, I am eating, you know, restaurants, even though I'm trying to be as intentional as possible.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  You're not perfect.

• 55:54Gary Brecka?

  Then I've got to think, man, the population has got to have so much of these hormone disrupting chemicals. So, yeah, anyway, let's get, I'm going to get back to the female journey. So now they, they get a hormone panel. We put them on basic talking supplements. You fix, you fix their sleep. I want to move towards the, you know, the women that are perimenopausal, pre-menopausal. Cause this is a really interesting time for them because some of them go through it asymptomatic.

• 56:24Speaker 00

  Right.

• 56:25Gary Brecka?

  And I know several of those, but some of them have, you know, crippling symptomology. And tell me where you fall on the hormone scale. Are you pro hormones or are you anti hormones?

• 56:36Speaker 00

  I mean, yeah, I mean, considering hormones ruled the world. I'm very pro hormones, but you're talking about like.

• 56:43Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 56:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Obviously bio identical is what I prefer.

• 56:48Speaker 00

  I've had a lot of clients that have come to me after they've been on bio identical hormones for a while. And they're like, hey, it was great the first few years. Doesn't seem to be working anymore.

• 56:55Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  And that's where we start to intervene. I always tell my clients, if you're on them currently, you may not need to be at the same dosage that you were on to start. And so as you start fixing some of these issues, we always recommend they go back to their, whoever their doctor is and have them reevaluate it and adjust it and change them down because we don't want to start creating more problems. If you give them testosterone and she doesn't convert it well, and she starts converting more androgens and she's not going to have, she's going to have more problems than she started off with long-term. And so.

• 57:28Speaker 00

  I think it has to be a very complimentary kind of approach with it. And that's where, again, where we fit in, where we're not prescribing them. We're not telling them to get off them. We're just saying like, hey, this is where you are with your lifestyle. This is how we're going to help support you in that and help you implement these changes. And then let's let your body tell you via testing like what you need to do next. And they love that because there's no shortage of hormone prescription out there. Like everyone wants to do that.

• 57:50Gary Brecka?

  But what about, what about a woman who knows that she's estrogen dominant? Is it as simple as taking something like DIMM? Or do you, in your practice, do you guys rebalance the hormone? Do you actually put them on hormone therapy and fix progesterone levels and estrogen levels? And, or do you try to take somebody that's estrogen dominant and, and, and deal with that in a different way?

• 58:18Speaker 00

  So again, it's going to depend on what's kind of driving it. If it is a deficiency or if it is something like their gut health because of how involved your gut is in detoxing estrogen and metabolizing it. And so a lot of women have, and I shouldn't say a lot, but women that have high estrogen, they have also high beta glucuronidase. And so that, that is, affects the enzyme that will help to detox estrogen out of your system in phase two detox. And so if the body doesn't do that, because they have a processed diet and all these deficiencies, then like, that's, that's the first place I assume is like your microbiome is probably disrupted. And that's a very, again, that's why they see a huge effect with the diet we put them on because it's very focused on their microbiome and getting beneficial bacteria and eliminating processed foods and high inflammatory foods.

• 59:03Speaker 00

  And also getting their macros corrected to where they're getting sufficient fat and protein, along with all these other things we've talked about. Their body starts to rebuild their microbiome. And then when it does that, beta glucuronidase comes down to a normal level and their detox levels go, or their detox ability goes up. And next thing they know, they've lost 15 pounds in four weeks. None of it is usually, you're not losing muscle, like they're losing water weight and some fat, you know? But mostly water, it's inflammatory. And so when they see that happening, then it gets, we get their estrogen to where it's more appropriate. And at that point in time, like you were saying, we look at the ratios. Is the ratio between progesterone and estrogen, is that, is that more in balance? And I think as women are transitioning from.

• 59:44Speaker 00

  You know, forty five to fifty five, their, their primary ability to produce progesterone is limited because they no longer produce in their ovaries, they produce it in their adrenal glands.

• 59:54Gary Brecka?

  Mm hmm.

• 59:54Speaker 00

  So if your adrenal glands are taxed, taxed all the time, you're not going to be able to produce as much progesterone as quickly as you need to when you need it.

• 1:00:01Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  And that's why I think, again, women have to.

• 1:00:02Gary Brecka?

  That's a game changer for sleep for women, too.

• 1:00:04Speaker 00

  So huge.

• 1:00:05Gary Brecka?

  Actually, for men, too.

• 1:00:06Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, for all of us. But so the hard part, though, is like, okay, where are they from, from here to getting to here? And like, sometimes it does require them or, you know, chase to berry or whatever it is to kind of help get those balances right. But that's not the first place we start. Like, that, to me, is, so we have four phases. The, the third and fourth phase are really focused on metabolic and sex hormone health. But I don't, I always tell them, like, we can't get here until we get this, this, your, your inflammation, your detoxification under control.

• 1:00:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:35Speaker 00

  If we do that, like, it'll pave the way for rapid success in these other phases with your thyroid and your sex hormones.

• 1:00:41Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  That's where I think, that's where I think people need to start.

• 1:00:44Gary Brecka?

  That's amazing.

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:45Gary Brecka?

  You know, you've talked about the dangers of certain supplements and additives. And so what are some things that people should look for in, in, in a supplement to maybe avoid?

• 1:00:55Speaker 00

  Oh, supplement?

• 1:00:57Gary Brecka?

  Uh, I mean, especially, you know, women, since.

• 1:00:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, besides all the, like, additive, and like, I have a whole, like, I have a book on all this stuff, but like, one of the, I have a whole list of like.

• 1:01:05Gary Brecka?

  You have a book on it?

• 1:01:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, it's not officially out, it'll probably be out by the time this is out, but, um.

• 1:01:10Gary Brecka?

  Okay, great.

• 1:01:10Speaker 00

  Probably going to just be an ebook. Um, it's called Holy Health.

• 1:01:14Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Um, it's gonna, it's like W H, or yeah, W H O O or O L L Y. And it's like a play on just like being whole, right? But also, it's kind of funny. So I talk about like a whole list of ingredients like caragin and titanium dioxide and magnesium strate, like all these like basic ones that shouldn't be in there. But then you have to look at the quality of whatever supplement you're taking. So if you're taking something like, you know, a B six supplement, it's like there's P five P, you know, paradox.

• 1:01:42Gary Brecka?

  P five phosphate, yeah.

• 1:01:44Speaker 00

  And there's also pyridoxine, HCl or whatever it is. And so that's synthetic, not, not a natural form of that. And that's going to be a, a, not a danger, but more, less easily absorbed for the body.

• 1:01:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, it's like folic acid and.

• 1:01:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, perfect example.

• 1:01:57Gary Brecka?

  Huge fan of that.

• 1:01:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, right, yeah. And, and so, um, getting those things right is where I just, I try to educate them, I try to show them. That's why I think for the, for them coming to me, they're like, what, what do you think I should be taking? Like, even the supplement conversation, like, I'm taking this one. Is this okay?

• 1:02:12Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  And I'm usually like, well, not so much.

• 1:02:14Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:02:14Speaker 00

  It's very synthetic. And it's like, this is an alternative option you can look at. It's natural and it's going to be absorbed and this is how you can absorb it. And so this is when to take it. This is how much to consider taking. So that's where we start with a lot of these people. But I think if you, I don't even know where to start with that because there's so many supplements that we could talk about, depending on which supplement you want to know. But I think it just depends on the supplement you're asking.

• 1:02:34Gary Brecka?

  Well, I'm excited for this ebook to come out.

• 1:02:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:02:37Gary Brecka?

  Because I, you know, I do the same thing. I have a guide online too. And I, there are certain contents that are in really inexpensive supplements that not just fillers, but you know, folic acid, sialin, cobalamin, which is.

• 1:02:52Speaker 00

  B12.

• 1:02:53Gary Brecka?

  Does occur naturally in nature, but it's also cyanide based.

• 1:02:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:02:55Gary Brecka?

  You know, B12, your body's going to have to convert it anyway.

• 1:02:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:02:59Gary Brecka?

  So.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  Not very efficient.

• 1:03:00Gary Brecka?

  I'm just saying, if you're, if you're actually going to go out and intentionally purchase a supplement, usually it's a marginal increase in price to get one that doesn't have the binders, the fillers, the additives.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:03:10Gary Brecka?

  And has already been methylated and it can be a game changer, especially for women, younger women, menstruating women and pregnant females to take, you know, methylated nutrients versus the other one.

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  And that kind of just, you know, sparked something in my mind, but a lot of, you know, we're talking about food, like we always want to start with food, right? Like I think supplements, I'm a huge fan of supplements. I use them all the time, endorse them a lot, but some people are like, why can't I get it through food? Like, well, there's a lot of reasons for that. But if you're eating even quality food, I switch my clients over to, you know, grass fed, grass finished beef if we can.

• 1:03:45Gary Brecka?

  And of course.

• 1:03:46Speaker 00

  Get them all those staples going.

• 1:03:48Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. But some people are like, I'm doing that. I've been doing that and I'm still not seeing, my B12 is still low.

• 1:03:54Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:03:55Speaker 00

  Okay, well, how's your stomach acid? What do you mean? Like, well, I don't have any acid reflux or maybe I do have acid reflux. I'm on a PPI, a proton pump inhibitor.

• 1:04:03Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:04Speaker 00

  And my B12 is low, my iron is low, my vitamin D is low. It's like, well, like your stomach acid is not acidic enough to actually absorb these things and break them down. And the way you can figure that out is that intrinsic factor is what helps, you know, B12, for example, actually get into your cell. And so that's a, I always forget to mention this, but like, that's one of the starting points with this whole conversation with our clients is like, how is your stomach acid? Like that is a starting point of health. Like if you don't chew well and you don't break it down well, like, and you're expecting your microbiome to be good.

• 1:04:32Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:33Speaker 00

  It's impossible. Like you're going to, you can take a bunch of these supplements, but you could get it through eating grass fed beef and some of these other nutrients, these other amino acids. And you would probably be better off than where you currently are.

• 1:04:43Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:04:44Speaker 00

  And then we can start to fill your, your, your, your needs with supplements and things like that. So it has to start with that whole holistic perspective.

• 1:04:49Gary Brecka?

  First of all, I'm happy you're mentioning grass fed beef. I mean, where do you fall in like the vegan vegetarianism versus meat eater category?

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  I'll just say I've converted a lot of vegans into a, you know, regular eaters, omnivores.

• 1:05:01Gary Brecka?

  Regular eaters?

• 1:05:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, I'm not, I haven't seen enough to support that that's a good idea, you know? And I've had a lot of clients that were really struggling, very, very clean in their life, you know, very low chemical toxins coming through their diet and things like that. But they were, uh, they weren't getting enough of the foundations through, through animal products.

• 1:05:20Gary Brecka?

  So, so what are the most common, um, I guess misconceptions for, for women of all ages that they make about hormone therapy or about hormones in general? Do you think that women are put on hormones too early? Do you think that hormone therapy is not used often enough? Like, what are some of the big misconceptions that you see coming through your practice that you're clearing up?

• 1:05:43Speaker 00

  So, and at least in my experience, a lot of them have tried hormone replacement therapy. So I think I'm kind of speaking to that crowd.

• 1:05:53Speaker 00

  And I think,

• 1:05:56Speaker 00

  I, again, I, I have a hard time getting a blanket statement on that because I think it can be very helpful and effective for women, uh, depending on where they are in their journey. I would just encourage women to like, again, get back to this disbelief that they, they have no role in this whole conversation.

• 1:06:13Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:06:14Speaker 00

  I, I try to explain things in very like, um, kind of like analogies. So like, if you think about like a king in a castle who has his people in front of him, peasants in front of him, he has his knights and protecting him and all that. Like if there's a threat, he's going to be the first one to leave. He won't return until everything's all safe and sound. And that's kind of what your hormones do. Like they're very much responding to an environment, at least your sex hormones. Like they're not going to be there when you're surviving. And so if your environment is constantly, Sending a signal to your hormones that they need to respond to this dangerous environment. You just can't expect your sex hormones to be well supplied.

• 1:06:47Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I hear Mark Hyman talk about all the time. If you have a sick fish, the first thing they do is clean the tank.

• 1:06:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:52Gary Brecka?

  Right?

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:06:53Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. They filter the stuff out of the water. You have to start with it. They clean up the environment.

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:06:57Gary Brecka?

  And then the fish heals. But um, and it's, I completely agree with you.

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  If you, you have to like, believe that first, right? Like, start with that. Like, don't let that, don't let the, the misconception, or maybe even deception of our society tell you like, it's not in your, not in your hands. Cause I think a lot of it can be in your hands. From there, you can make an informed decision about what hormone replacement therapy will look like. Like, how much? You know, what kind? Like, am I doing testosterone, progesterone, estrogen? Or am I just doing testosterone? Or am I just doing some progesterone? Cause getting a, a multitude of different hormones coming into your system and not converting well, because you're still lacking B5 and B6, and you still have issues with methylation. And you still have this issue with your gut. Like, it's not gonna go well for you long term, at least in what I've seen. So you have to kind of build, yeah, get the fish tank clean. And then start to figure out what you need to do from there.

• 1:07:44Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah, they rarely isolate the fish and then start injecting the fish or

• 1:07:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:49Gary Brecka?

  putting chemicals or synthetics or, you know, pharmaceuticals into the fish. They really clean up the environment.

• 1:07:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. And again, that's, that's not like, gonna solve every single problem.

• 1:07:59Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:07:59Speaker 00

  But I think in some-

• 1:08:00Gary Brecka?

  But I think you have to start there, right?

• 1:08:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, and, and I think, um, a lot of people get so discouraged and hopeless with their effort. And I always tell people, it's like, if you can get that set up first, um, it's like a good financial investment. Like, you can make money while you're sleeping. You can be building better health while you're sleeping. If you get these things in alignment, your body can move away from just being like, I think people focus on doing a lot of healthy things, but they don't focus on healing.

• 1:08:25Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:26Speaker 00

  And there's a big difference. Like, healing is very active and very intentional and very specific. And it's figuring out what your problem is with a qualified practitioner to then identify like, what your healing protocol looks like. If you broke your wrist, you wear a cast, like, you don't just take it off in the weekends. Like, you keep it on, you heal it for eight weeks, and then you get back to rehabbing. And like, that's the process. But with our hormones and with our health, we don't, we don't view it that way. We kind of it's like, well, I'm eating pretty healthy.

• 1:08:47Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:08:47Speaker 00

  I'm doing some things, I wear my blue light blocking glasses and I try to keep my stress low. And it's like, okay, those are all very good things. But like, what is, what is missing in your specific system requires specific information? And then you have to follow that, that pathway.

• 1:09:00Gary Brecka?

  I, I love too that you're very open about being a, uh, you call it a biblical rooted health practitioner.

• 1:09:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:08Gary Brecka?

  Talk a little bit about what the role of faith, at least for you. Sure. Right, plays in this, in this scheme, grand scheme of things. And you know, I, I, I feel like Bobby Kennedy is the same way. You know, he talks about his, his journey and how, I might be bastardizing his story a little bit, but he stumbled upon a book on, it wasn't really a faith-based book, but it was a book that had him begin to consider, you know, faith and belief. Interesting. I don't know the story. It's, it's a really interesting story. And he tells this story about how he wasn't a believer and God didn't believe in Jesus. Dad really had, didn't have faith in his life.

• 1:09:51Gary Brecka?

  He was an addict and, but he knew he would do anything that would help him overcome his addiction. And I forget the name of the book. I'd have to find it. And if I do, I'll put it into the show notes because it was such a compelling story. Cut it in real quick. Yeah, I'll cut it in. Or I'll just drop it in the show notes for, for the podcast listeners. But essentially he stumbled upon this book and, and, and basically it wasn't a pro or anti-faith book in and of itself. It wasn't like he found the Bible and he started to read it and was like, oh man, I'm going to start following Jesus. What he found was this book that said, it was basically, what do you have to lose? Because if you believe in a higher power, you have faith in, in a higher power,

• 1:10:32Gary Brecka?

  and you have something to fear, and you believe that there is something that is observing you when no one else is looking, then you can begin to live a life that is, one that's the same whether or not you're in the presence of other people or not. So in other words, you know, he was like, it really spoke to his heart because the addiction is something that you hid. Sure. You know, it's not like you would shoot up in a room with a bunch of other people. You know, you would, you know, you'd go blindly around the corner into the bathroom or something. Nobody's watching. Right. And, but this, this whole idea of a belief in a higher power said that there's never a time that you're not, you know, being watched. You might not be being judged, but you're being, being watched. And it, it started this road to faith.

• 1:11:17Gary Brecka?

  And while he was considering it, he talks about this volleyball game that he was playing. And, and while he's playing volleyball, somebody hit the ball and it bounced off of a pole. As soon as it bounced off the pole, he goes, that's going to get hit by a truck. And the ball, you gotta look this.

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:31Gary Brecka?

  You have to watch us. And, and it literally, the ball bounced out into a street and got run over by an 18 wheeler. And everybody on the volleyball court was like, what? And, and he said, it was right after he found this book and he was like, he thought that this was a sign from God.

• 1:11:47Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:11:48Gary Brecka?

  And so he took a right turn.

• 1:11:50Speaker 00

  That's what it took for him.

• 1:11:51Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. So I think everybody has a, you know, a different story about.

• 1:11:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:55Gary Brecka?

  Maybe you grew up and faith was always, you know, rooted in your family. It was easy for you. You know, for me, I was saved by a promise keepers convention years ago. But, um, so tell me about, you know, a little bit about what that means for you.

• 1:12:08Speaker 00

  So the biblically, biblically rooted thing is probably the most important aspect of this whole thing from, from my practices perspective in my life. But I think there's two, there's two, again, two simple ways to think about it. There's a conversation that we are ignorant to things we don't know. God says in Hosea, chapter four, verse six, I think that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. That's a problem, you know, we don't want to be destroyed by things we don't know. The second thing is iniquities. Those are things that we do know, but we do anyway. And like, don't really care. It's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna harm my body. And this was like a more recent revelation that I had, um, about the verse, uh, I think it's first Corinthians 13. Like, you know, your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. Um, in that it says though, like, you know, your bodies are not your own.

• 1:12:52Speaker 00

  They're bought with a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies. And the thing that stuck out to me was like, oh, that this isn't mine. Like if I borrow somebody's car, like I fill it up.

• 1:13:01Gary Brecka?

  I always call it the temple.

• 1:13:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. But like, if I borrow somebody's car, like I fill it up full of gas, like I'll maybe clean it out a little bit. If it's my car, I'm like, yeah, I don't know. It's, it's fine. I'll just maybe not wash it this week or fill it up. But I think having that perspective, like this is not mine. Like this is a vessel that God gave me to be a steward over.

• 1:13:19Speaker 00

  That, that belief is, is so impactful when it comes to this health stuff, because you can have all the information. Like people have so much information these days about what they could potentially do with their health. Yet most people don't take any action on it. And I think we were talking about this today on the way over here. It's just like in Ecclesiastes, you know, King Solomon had everything.

• 1:13:36Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:13:37Speaker 00

  Richest person probably ever.

• 1:13:38Gary Brecka?

  Thousand chariots, thousand wives.

• 1:13:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, everything. Yeah.

• 1:13:41Gary Brecka?

  Thousand wives, a lot of wives.

• 1:13:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Maybe that's, maybe that's where he went wrong.

• 1:13:44Gary Brecka?

  That's tough.

• 1:13:46Gary Brecka?

  That was his downfall.

• 1:13:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was one right there. But like, you know, he's talking about and that he always says meaningless, it's all vanity under the sun and all this stuff. And I think from a believer's perspective, or even just like an average or person that isn't a believer, it's like, well, it's all meaningless. What does it even matter? But that's not the point of Ecclesiastes. Like, the point of Ecclesiastes is that it's not like the actual real word is like, Hebrew word is like heval. It's like what meaningless means. So we associate with like it, nothing. Heval is like, it's like you can't grasp it. It's like seeing fog go across. Like you, you see it, you don't understand it, you can't like put your hand on it, right? So that's kind of what life is, is like, life is heval. Like, it's not something that we can fully grasp and put our hands on. But it's not, it's not like pointless. Like, there's so much value in our life, but we can't go one side of making it all about, might as well not do anything. Cause what's, what's the point?

• 1:14:32Speaker 00

  And we also can't make it about making it an idol to where like, this is all it's about. And like, my health is everything and my biomarkers are everything. And like, my fitness is everything. Cause like, that's, that's not healthy either. So I think for me as a Christian, it's like, I have to kind of constantly be in this, this mindset of like, it's not this, it's not meaningless, but it's not everything at the same time. And like, this is, for me, it's like, God has a plan for my life that is bigger than I even understand. And he has an impact and I can tell, I can tell you a bunch of stories about this, but before I even blew up online, I prayed that God would open the floodgates and bring people to me. Like two years ago. And each time, like sitting here with you right now, it's just like so, so surreal because like, I never would imagine this would ever happen. But like, when it happens, I'm like, oh, like I prayed for this to happen.

• 1:15:17Speaker 00

  And as a child of God, he likes giving good gifts and he likes like showing off a little bit, you know, and saying like, hey, like I, I, I am in control here. Like, don't forget, like I am control and that this, this life is not meaningless. It's not pointless. Like you are here for a reason. And I think as parents, as people who are trying to better their health, you have to figure out what is that reason for you? Like, what is that why? To where all this effort that you're putting in, all this toil, like King Solomon talks about Ecclesiastes, like the toil is our reward. Like the toil is worth it. Like hard work is good.

• 1:15:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:46Speaker 00

  But understanding why you're doing it is, is better. And I think if people can get that correlation dialed in to where they know that if I do these things, it's going to yield a result and that it's worth it. People are going to, they're going to invest in their health and that they don't have nearly the issues they, they're having now because they see that what they do matters and that there is.

• 1:16:07Speaker 00

  That there's, there's some level of like purpose in all that. And it's not about all the money we make and all that stuff like that's all gonna fall away at some point. It's like if you build a sandcastle, like you start at 7am in the morning. You build this magnificent sandcastle and it's beautiful. You're like really, you, you're like toiling with it, you're laboring with it, doing with your child or something like that. And then next thing you know, the tide comes in and washes it all away.

• 1:16:30Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 1:16:31Speaker 00

  Like that's what our life is.

• 1:16:32Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:33Speaker 00

  But like all that, that whole process of building a sandcastle wasn't for nothing. It all had value.

• 1:16:37Gary Brecka?

  That's amazing, man. Well, um, first of all, this, this has been amazing. I'm definitely going to have you back. I want to follow your journey.

• 1:16:44Speaker 00

  Cool.

• 1:16:46Gary Brecka?

  Tell my audience where they can find you.

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  Yes, so, uh, online at my Instagram, you guys can link that. I usually have a link at the top of my page.

• 1:16:55Gary Brecka?

  That just Dr. Austin Lake?

• 1:16:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, dr.austin.lake.

• 1:16:58Gary Brecka?

  Dr.austin.lake.

• 1:17:00Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 1:17:01Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 1:17:01Speaker 00

  I also, I, I currently have a website that's transitioning and so it's going to be under holy.health.

• 1:17:08Gary Brecka?

  Transitioning to what, a male or a female?

• 1:17:10Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:17:12Speaker 00

  Transitioning from a, so we're, we're building, we're building a, we're going to start training coaches.

• 1:17:17Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 1:17:17Speaker 00

  To operate in this because we've had such a high demand for what we're doing, like just like yourself. And so we're, we're building a training program for coaches to help them to go out and to service these people that need help to help implement this stuff. And it's like, and it's not that it's like secretive information, but it's just people need help with implementation. So it's going to be this new thing that we're doing. That's why it's transitioning to a different website, but I'll be talking more about that on my social media and stuff. So you can find, you can also just Google my name and you'll find stuff on me.

• 1:17:42Gary Brecka?

  Okay, great. Well, I, I wind down all of my podcasts by asking all my guests the same question.

• 1:17:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:49Gary Brecka?

  So there's no right or wrong answer to this question, but what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 1:17:55Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 1:17:57Speaker 00

  Russell Brand stole the answer. I, I watched that episode.

• 1:18:00Gary Brecka?

  I asked Russell Brand, he sat right in that chair, I asked him the same question.

• 1:18:02Speaker 00

  That dude is amazing.

• 1:18:03Gary Brecka?

  He is.

• 1:18:04Speaker 00

  He is so smart, but um, yeah, he said Jesus Christ, which that's like such a perfect answer. Like I don't know how you're going to beat that.

• 1:18:12Speaker 00

  I think it's, I think it's along those lines of imaging who Christ is and you know, it's loving the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul. And then loving other people as yourself. Those are really hard things to do. Like those are the two greatest commandments that God has put on our life. Very simple, but to be able to do that, to have the mental clarity, to be able to have the energy, to be able to be the hands and feet of our Creator. Like it's very difficult. And so being an ultimate human for me is really getting my body in a position, getting my mind in a position to where I can be obedient to God's calling. Like that to me would be an ultimate human.

• 1:18:47Gary Brecka?

  That's amazing. Well, guys, what an amazing podcast. You know, Dr. Austin and I are going to move into the VIP Ultimate Human group now. If you're interested in becoming a VIP Ultimate Human, it's $97 a month. You can sign up at my website. Just go to theultimatehuman.com. We do private podcasts. We do all kinds of challenges. We do live group Q and As in there. So go over to my website and check it out. And otherwise, as always, it's just science.