Pod Insights The Big Picture The New York City Movie Draft, With Griffin Newman and David Sims! About this episode Live from New York, it’s 'Saturday Night'! Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan, plus Griffin Newman and David Sims of the Blank Check podcast, to draft their favorite New York City movies of all time.
Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins
Guests: Chris Ryan, Griffin Newman, and David Sims
Producers: Jack Sanders, Elizabeth Fierman, Helen Eichner, Charlie Finan, and Mike Wargon
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0:09 Sean Fennessey? I'm Sean Finacy.
0:10 Amanda Dobbins? I'm Amanda Dobbins.
0:11 Sean Fennessey? And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about New York City.
0:25 Sean Fennessey? OK, enough.
0:26 Amanda Dobbins? All right, OK, OK. Thank you.
0:30 Sean Fennessey? As you may have surmised based on the boards behind us, we will be drafting tonight.
0:38 Sean Fennessey? What are we drafting?
0:40 Amanda Dobbins? New York City.
0:43 Sean Fennessey? So New York City movies. We do have some special guests. Before we bring them out, one, I would like to say thank you to LinkedIn Ads for sponsoring this event, which is really appreciative of. Thank you for being here tonight. Thank you to the 92nd Street Y. This is very special.
0:57 Amanda Dobbins? Thank you to all of you for coming.
0:59 Sean Fennessey? When I moved to New York in 2004, I lived on 93rd and 3rd, and I came here all the time. So this is weird.
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1:48 Sean Fennessey? Before we begin, we're gonna do some trivia. The trivia is sponsored by our friends at the Criterion Collection. If you get a trivia question correct, you will get a special bag full of some Criterion-sponsored stuff. If you're here, I'm assuming you love physical media.
2:15 Sean Fennessey? What do you want to say about the trivia?
2:17 Amanda Dobbins? We wrote it ourselves, and it is quite hard. This is going to be an honor system situation. That when we were in Chicago, Sean was very clear, you know, no goofy stuff. Okay, if you raise your hand and you don't, it's okay if you don't know the answer. And it's okay if you have a really good joke, but it should be like excellent. Otherwise, you know, we're all going to work together. I have great news for the balcony. You guys are in game this time, okay? I do, I want to let everyone at the balcony know, and in the very back, kind of under the balcony, that it is hard to see you right now. So you're gonna need to wave, you're gonna, you know, if you know it, be confident.
3:00 Sean Fennessey? Don't yell.
3:01 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, don't, and don't yell out the answer. The microphone is going to come to you. It is your moment.
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4:37 Sean Fennessey? Let's start.
4:38 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
4:39 Sean Fennessey? So, we're gonna, we're gonna read the question, and you're gonna raise your hand, and you're gonna act like a civilized person. Amanda, I think, I think you wrote the first question, did you not?
4:47 Amanda Dobbins? I did. Hold on, I'm just loading it. I'm not on my phone right now. Okay. This is a fairly easy one. Oh, good, they changed lights. But still, you know, be aggressive. Be, believe in yourself if you know it. Name five best picture winners set in New York City. Okay, well, you, you know, it's sort of a Jeopardy thing for you, where you do have to wait till it's done, but he was very early. Okay, everybody else.
5:12 Sean Fennessey? There's a, there's a, there's a man on the far right side who waved both hands, which means he definitely can do this. Don't screw this up, sir.
5:20 Amanda Dobbins? Stand up, come on!
5:21 Sean Fennessey? Stand up, please.
5:23 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
5:24 Sean Fennessey? Don't applaud him. Save your applause for after he's answered the question, please.
5:32 Amanda Dobbins? One.
5:33 Speaker 06 Kramer vs. Kramer.
5:35 Amanda Dobbins? Two.
5:35 Speaker 06 Birdman.
5:37 Amanda Dobbins? Three.
5:38 Speaker 06 Godfather.
5:39 Amanda Dobbins? Four.
5:45 Speaker 06 Annie Hall.
5:46 Amanda Dobbins? Five!
5:46 Sean Fennessey? Five!
5:53 Amanda Dobbins? The question is, would you have accepted Godfather 2?
5:57 Sean Fennessey? Godfather 2?
5:58 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
5:59 Sean Fennessey? Abs, I would argue Godfather 2 is the superior New York movie.
6:02 Amanda Dobbins? I agree, you know, but it is, you know, more spread out.
6:06 Sean Fennessey? Sure, but, I mean, we're literally coming off of Ellis Island into New York City.
6:10 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I get it, okay.
6:12 Sean Fennessey? Uh, second question. New York filmmaking icon Spike Lee has never won Best Director at the Oscars. Boo. But this classmate and friend of his from NYU Film School has won twice. Who is the director? Right here in the front, this... That is the first hand I saw.
6:36 Amanda Dobbins? Is it Ang Lee?
6:37 Sean Fennessey? That's correct.
6:38 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
6:46 Amanda Dobbins? All right. You ask the next one, and then I'll do number four.
6:49 Sean Fennessey? OK, one more Oscars question, and we're done with that. This recent Academy Award winner's second and third features, films are featured in the Criterion Collection. Who is the director in question, and what are the films? Right here. These are hard, guys.
7:09 Speaker 07 Oh, now I'm scared. Is it Sean Baker with The Prince of Broadway and Enora?
7:15 Sean Fennessey? You've got two of three.
7:17 Speaker 07 Takeout, can I say takeout? Can I do it?
7:19 Amanda Dobbins? Come on, yes. Hi, counsel, it's you. Congratulations.
7:22 Speaker 07 I forgot the question.
7:23 Amanda Dobbins? There we go.
7:25 Sean Fennessey? Was that the only person who raised their hand for that answer? Did anybody else even raise their hand?
7:31 Amanda Dobbins? All right. We're changing lanes here a little. Where in New York City does the devil wears Prada's Andy Sachs pick up an early galley of the last Harry Potter book? OK, right there, front and center. You can do it.
7:50 Speaker 08 Doesn't she meet his character at the St. Regis Hotel to pick it up from Christian Thompson?
7:55 Amanda Dobbins? Can you name the room?
7:58 Speaker 08 The Magnolia Room?
7:59 Amanda Dobbins? So close, and it's not. And I'm really, but I-
8:02 Sean Fennessey? That is incorrect.
8:06 Amanda Dobbins? OK, all right, you're waving. We have one back here who's waving. I'm really, listen, you're very close. Yeah, back there, double hands. There, that's right, there you go. That's some real Amanda I know the answer energy. I do know the answer. It is the King Cole bar. Bingo.
8:23 Sean Fennessey? That's correct.
8:25 Amanda Dobbins? It's, you should go. It is very fun.
8:29 Sean Fennessey? Well done. OK, this is a long one. 13 feature films directed by Martin Scorsese are primarily set in New York. Name 10.
8:42 Sean Fennessey? Green hat on the end here.
8:43 Amanda Dobbins? Ringer hat, alright.
8:44 Sean Fennessey? Thank you for wearing a ringer hat. I wish I had one of those.
8:49 Sean Fennessey? I am nervous. Okay, so we got Goodfellas. Yes. Taxi Driver. Yes. Wolf of Wall Street. Yes. Gangs of New York. Yes. This is four. Six more. This is not hard.
9:04 Sean Fennessey? Mean Streets. Yes.
9:08 Sean Fennessey? No hints, please.
9:11 Amanda Dobbins? Listen, but don't turn away free knowledge that's given to you also.
9:16 Sean Fennessey? That is very fair. If you cannot get it, someone will be able to pick up right where you left off. Okay, uh. Tap in.
9:24 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, that's nice. I have love for all of you right now.
9:28 Sean Fennessey? Want to choose someone?
9:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're waving.
9:35 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, good.
9:36 Speaker 09 Do I get his four?
9:38 Sean Fennessey? You get his five, yes, he got five.
9:40 Amanda Dobbins? But can you remember which five they are? And can we?
9:44 Sean Fennessey? Did he say Mean? If you repeat one of his five, you have to leave the show.
9:49 Sean Fennessey? I got it, I got it. Did he say Mean Streets? He did. Alright, okay, so let's work chronologically. Did he say Taxi? Folks, if you don't know the answers, don't raise your hand. I know the answer. Taxi Driver, did he say Taxi? New York, New York, let's just, let's get on the board. New York, New York is six. New York, New York.
10:08 Sean Fennessey? Keep going. Sir, this is being recorded. Gangs of New York, Age of Innocence.
10:16 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, that was one.
10:17 Sean Fennessey? Age of Innocence, yes, that's seven. I'm gonna say Safely Not Kundun.
10:23 Sean Fennessey? Gangs of New York.
10:27 Sean Fennessey? King of Comedy, definitely in 83, technically 83.
10:32 Amanda Dobbins? Wait, does that count?
10:33 Sean Fennessey? What did he say?
10:34 Amanda Dobbins? He said King of Comedy, but.
10:35 Sean Fennessey? King of Comedy, yes, that counts. How many am I at? That's three, you need two more. Okay, two more. We are gonna turn a clock on. Not Silence. We have to leave here by a certain time. Hugo is in France.
10:46 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
10:49 Sean Fennessey? Raging Bull? Raging Bull, yes, that's nine.
10:51 Amanda Dobbins? That's what this was, by the way, in case anyone was.
10:53 Sean Fennessey? Boxcar Bertha? Pardon me? Boxcar Bertha, no. Boxcar Bertha is not a New York film.
10:59 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. But listen, a valiant effort.
11:02 Sean Fennessey? Okay, so we need one more.
11:06 Sean Fennessey? You pick, I'm not picking.
11:08 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, alright.
11:09 Sean Fennessey? I said After Hours.
11:10 Amanda Dobbins? Striped shirt waving double hands, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:14 Speaker 10 Number 10 is The Irishman.
11:16 Amanda Dobbins? There we go.
11:17 Sean Fennessey? That's correct.
11:21 Amanda Dobbins? That was sort of a team effort, so if you want to share your Blu-rays, you know, it's really up to you.
11:27 Sean Fennessey? You probably should share your Blu-rays, that's something I would recommend. Questions, answers we did not hear from that category. Who's That Knocking at My Door, his first feature film? After Hours? Shame, shame on you guys. And Bringing Out the Dead.
11:45 Sean Fennessey? Okay, next one.
11:47 Amanda Dobbins? One of the New York City movie discs in the gift bag is The Day Trippers, a Long Island to New York City family dramedy that Sean adores. 11 years transpired between The Day Trippers and director Greg Mottola's next film. What was it? I mean, you were in my sightline, but yeah. Superbad. Correct.
12:06 Sean Fennessey? Superbad is correct.
12:07 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, Superbad.
12:12 Sean Fennessey? Okay, we have four more questions. Four more gift bags. Alfred Hitchcock rarely featured New York City in his work, but the conclusion of one of his movies is set at the top of the Statue of Liberty. What is the film? This guy right here is the first hand I saw.
12:32 Sean Fennessey? Saboteur. That's right. Saboteur.
12:39 Sean Fennessey? You want to do, do you want to do?
12:41 Amanda Dobbins? This one?
12:41 Sean Fennessey? The nine and then I'll do eight? What's your preference?
12:45 Amanda Dobbins? I mean...
12:45 Sean Fennessey? Why don't you do the next two?
12:46 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. I mean, I wrote the last three, but that's okay.
12:52 Amanda Dobbins? In When Harry Met Sally, of course, typecasting, the iconic "I'll have what she's having" scene takes place at Kat's deli.
13:04 Amanda Dobbins? I like the enthusiasm.
13:08 Amanda Dobbins? After Sally concludes her fake orgasm, she calmly takes a bite of food. What does she eat? All right, I saw you over there. Yes, in the, yes, yeah?
13:18 Speaker 11 A turkey sandwich?
13:19 Amanda Dobbins? No. Okay, all right, yes. Enthusiasm.
13:23 Sean Fennessey? Wait, wait for a microphone.
13:24 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, yeah, wait for a mic.
13:27 Sean Fennessey? By the way, I wrote this question. You didn't write this question.
13:29 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, that's right, you did write this one. Yeah, sorry. Sorry.
13:33 Speaker 06 It is, what is a pastrami sandwich?
13:35 Sean Fennessey? No.
13:35 Amanda Dobbins? No. Okay, all right, right here? Yeah, okay. The Yankees hat is an interesting choice for the show, but we'll give it to you anyway. I heard it wasn't going well.
13:44 Sean Fennessey? A Reuben.
13:45 Amanda Dobbins? No. Oh, now it's getting tricky. Back there, on the aisle, in the whites, in the white sweater.
13:51 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, you don't listen to women. That's the problem.
13:56 Amanda Dobbins? It's a white sweater, v-neck, it's great. Kohl's law? Yes, Kohl's law.
14:01 Sean Fennessey? Kohl's law is correct. Because of course you have to get Kohl's law at Katz's Deli. Okay, next one.
14:08 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, sorry. My phone locked. What is the address of the Tenenbaum family home in Wes Anderson's The Royal Tenenbaums? Ooh. Oh, we've got it, in the back, two of you. Okay.
14:21 Speaker 06 111 Archer Avenue.
14:22 Amanda Dobbins? There we go.
14:23 Sean Fennessey? Very good. Very good. I wouldn't have been able to get that.
14:30 Sean Fennessey? Okay. Our final trivia question. This is the last one.
14:37 Sean Fennessey? What time is it?
14:42 Speaker 12 This is, this is a key tenet. It's a key tenet of the rebellion. I'm surprised you can't name it.
14:56 Speaker 12 What's up? New York.
15:00 Speaker 12 What's going on?
15:02 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
15:03 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, there you go. All right, there's a, in the center, up top, in the, yeah.
15:09 Sean Fennessey? Center in the balcony, up top, with the beard, yes.
15:12 Amanda Dobbins? Wait for the mic, wait for the mic, wait for the mic.
15:13 Sean Fennessey? Yes, wait for the mic. Don't clap, sir. Please be patient. This is the rebellion. We're not trying to rush our meal at McDonald's.
15:21 Speaker 10 Time doesn't exist, yet it controls us anyway.
15:23 Sean Fennessey? That's correct.
15:31 Speaker 12 That is my favorite line from Tron Aries, man.
15:35 Amanda Dobbins? If there are any long-suffering significant others in attendance, number one, welcome. Thank you. And number two, that is a reference to Paul Thomas Anderson's latest film, One Battle After Another.
15:49 Sean Fennessey? Chris Ryan is here.
15:50 Speaker 12 What's up?
15:54 Sean Fennessey? We would never draft without Chris Ryan, but we were talking about what would be the best way to have a New York City movie draft. And we have two very close friends who live in New York City. We're gonna bring them right out right now. From Blank Check, David Sims and Griffin Newman.
16:20 Speaker 07 Hello.
16:22 Speaker 12 Hey, guys.
16:27 Sean Fennessey? It's the Mets.
16:29 Speaker 12 Hey, guys.
16:30 Speaker 07 They're gonna, they're gonna put your, your three names up there at the end of the night, right? Emerson, Einstein.
16:36 Amanda Dobbins? Sure, yeah.
16:37 Speaker 07 Bach, Beethoven, Fantasy, Dobbins, Ryan.
16:39 Sean Fennessey? It's quite embarrassing. James Baldwin was once in this room.
16:42 Speaker 12 What are we doing here?
16:42 Sean Fennessey? Susan Sontag. You know, I got a whole history of the 92nd Street Y.
16:46 Speaker 12 Top five Y's. Where's this one ranked for you?
16:50 Sean Fennessey? Technically 92 for me.
16:51 Speaker 12 Okay, yeah.
16:52 Sean Fennessey? So, five movie podcasters on one stage.
16:57 Sean Fennessey? Before we draft, we usually talk about the subject of the draft and what it means to us. Now, all five of us have, have lived inside of this city. We've spent some time here. The three of us no longer do.
17:07 Speaker 12 Yeah.
17:08 Sean Fennessey? On any regular basis.
17:09 Speaker 12 Cowards.
17:13 Amanda Dobbins? I accept.
17:14 Speaker 12 Yeah, you know.
17:16 Speaker 07 That's, I mean, David's joking. It's very generous of you three to invite us onto the show tonight. I think what he meant to say is you're quitters.
17:27 Sean Fennessey? Be that as it may. Chris Ryan, why don't I start with you?
17:29 Speaker 12 Okay.
17:30 Sean Fennessey? New York City.
17:30 Speaker 12 Yeah.
17:31 Sean Fennessey? What does it mean to you? And what does it mean to the movies?
17:34 Speaker 12 Well, this is gonna be a really fun draft and a very easy draft to prepare for, because these are just the best movies.
17:41 Sean Fennessey? That's true.
17:42 Speaker 12 Sometimes we set ourselves very difficult challenges when it comes to like draft topics, but this isn't one of them. You go through the list of New York movies, it's pretty routine, like, oh, this is like my third favorite movie. I'll just put it right here. So I'm excited to do this. New York City, what does it mean to me? I mean, I spent 11 years here. It has always like occupied a huge part of my imagination, doing no small part to the movies that we're gonna talk about tonight.
18:07 Sean Fennessey? Amanda, what about you?
18:08 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, same. I moved here in 2006, right after college, because of all the things that I saw in the movies. So it's, I miss it very much. I'm really, really glad to be back right now. And, you know, I grew up here. I think like not, you know, I was a child somewhere else, but I learned everything that I think is worth knowing.
18:28 Speaker 12 Right.
18:28 Amanda Dobbins? And met most everyone that I think is worth knowing, including everyone on this stage in New York City. So I'm very glad to be back.
18:36 Speaker 12 Amanda, did you move here before or after Devil Wears Prada?
18:40 Amanda Dobbins? It was-
18:41 Speaker 12 Same year.
18:41 Amanda Dobbins? So, same year. And I saw it, it was the summer after I graduated college, and I saw it at, I think, the 80, where, on the Upper West Side?
18:50 Speaker 12 84th Street Lowe's.
18:51 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
18:52 Sean Fennessey? I'll help you.
18:52 Amanda Dobbins? That's where it was.
18:53 Speaker 12 It was a Lowe's back in the day.
18:55 Amanda Dobbins? And I remember being like, yeah, this is it. This is exactly what I was born to do. And then, you know, other things happened.
19:00 Sean Fennessey? Griffin, I think you're the only one of us that was born and fully raised here. Is that right?
19:05 Speaker 12 David, right? You grew up in New York and lived here your entire life?
19:08 Sean Fennessey? Get the fuck out of here! Set that up for you. That shit is illegal. Put that on the T for Blank Check fans.
19:13 Speaker 12 Yeah, no, I'm born and bred and broken. I tried to go to college in California and ran back screaming.
19:20 Sean Fennessey? It spat him back out.
19:21 Speaker 12 It spat me back out. I spat back at them, but they had one. It was more a-
19:26 Sean Fennessey? Well, let me ask you about that, since-
19:27 Speaker 12 ...opposite thing, yeah.
19:27 Sean Fennessey? You lived here, so the movies maybe held a little bit of the less like magical appeal, having been inside of it while seeing the movies.
19:36 Speaker 07 Yes, but I do, I do feel like even the most gritty, neorealistic New York movies do kind of present a more ecstatic version of New York, you know? There are obviously a great many like stylized fantastical movies that are here, a New York that could never quite exist, but even when you see like the down and dirty New York movies, you're like, yeah. It's never quite the reflection of what's out your window.
20:01 Speaker 11 Yeah.
20:02 Sean Fennessey? David, what about your circuitous route back here?
20:05 Speaker 11 I did, I left at the age of nine and came back at the age of 22 and I spent the intervening years falling in love with movies.
20:12 Sean Fennessey? But where, where were?
20:13 Speaker 11 All right. London, England, baby. Woo! Um, North London, go, go Gunners.
20:22 Sean Fennessey? I figured that, I figured that'd land. All right. You know what? You know what? Not on my podcast.
20:30 Speaker 11 Thank you.
20:32 Speaker 12 I don't know what's happening right now.
20:34 Speaker 11 And I think I spent, I spent all my adolescence being like, I'm a New Yorker and then watching all these movies and like it becoming very religious for me, but like, yes, again, somewhat romantic vision of the city, even at its dirtiest, like me being like, I gotta get back there. And I got back here and here I am. Let's go Mets.
20:51 Sean Fennessey? Let's go Mets. I couldn't agree with that more. So many sad Yankee fans out there tonight. Sorry, guys. Um, I grew up on Long Island.
21:00 Speaker 12 Yeah, I was gonna say, how are they doing?
21:03 Speaker 11 Phillies are winning?
21:04 Speaker 12 Yeah.
21:05 Sean Fennessey? Phillies are what?
21:06 Speaker 11 They're winning.
21:07 Sean Fennessey? We do like every 20 minutes, get a Phillies score update?
21:08 Speaker 12 Yeah. If the Phillies continue to win, feel free to shout out.
21:11 Speaker 11 Did they pull Shohei? Is he off already? Yeah.
21:14 Sean Fennessey? Um, yeah, I'm from Long Island, so I felt
21:19 Speaker 11 No, he's still pitching.
21:20 Sean Fennessey? Very close to, but not a part of New York City, which is an unusual way to grow up. Most of my family is from New York City. And I, I probably
21:30 Sean Fennessey? I revered it more because I felt that close to it. And then by the time I was a teenager, it started coming all the time. But I too also felt formed by watching it on the big screen and hearing about people who lived there and the things that they were doing, which always seemed much more interesting than the things that I was doing. And then I moved here and it was cold and mean. And I was like, I gotta get out of here. And I did, but I'm happy to be back. So we are going to draft. We have six categories to draft from here. So if you're here in the audience, you can see them on the big board. The categories are drama, comedy, action, horror, thriller, Oscar winner, box office, and subway.
22:12 Speaker 07 Those are sandwich movies?
22:14 Sean Fennessey? No.
22:14 Speaker 07 The last category?
22:15 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
22:15 Speaker 07 It is funny you ended up with basically the exact-
22:17 Speaker 12 Favorite five dollar foot long.
22:18 Speaker 07 Subway logo and the color scheme.
22:20 Speaker 12 It's true.
22:23 Sean Fennessey? No free ads?
22:25 Speaker 07 Uh huh.
22:27 Speaker 12 You're just the guy to revive Subway's fortunes. You're just like the straight shooters, just like, I'm gonna bring sandwiches back in this country.
22:42 Sean Fennessey? No comment. Subway, of course, is any movie that features an iconic subway scene. So think hard in the recesses of your mind about movies that you like that-
22:52 Amanda Dobbins? You just introduced iconic into the conversation.
22:55 Speaker 12 That was just him being lazy. It can just be a subway scene. It doesn't have to be iconic.
22:59 Sean Fennessey? Any subway scene?
23:00 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
23:01 Sean Fennessey? Like man gets on subway in a movie?
23:03 Amanda Dobbins? Well, yeah.
23:04 Sean Fennessey? That sounds terrible. Why would you draft that?
23:06 Speaker 07 We're deeming it iconic. That's the meaning.
23:08 Speaker 12 If you drafted it-
23:09 Amanda Dobbins? If you remember that it happened.
23:11 Sean Fennessey? Guys, I made this rule. What are you talking about?
23:14 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but you're not, you did not add that information until this-
23:18 Speaker 12 You said pivotal. Pivotal scene.
23:20 Sean Fennessey? I said pivotal.
23:21 Speaker 12 Explaced on a subway.
23:22 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
23:23 Sean Fennessey? Pivotal?
23:23 Speaker 12 Yeah.
23:23 Amanda Dobbins? I accept.
23:24 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
23:24 Speaker 07 I have, I have a genuine question on this topic. Must one board the train for it to count as a subway scene?
23:33 Sean Fennessey? I don't think so.
23:34 Speaker 07 It can be within the station?
23:35 Sean Fennessey? Interesting.
23:35 Speaker 07 Yeah.
23:35 Sean Fennessey? I don't, I don't, what do you guys think?
23:37 Amanda Dobbins? No, no, no.
23:38 Sean Fennessey? If you're in a station, you are in the subway, I would say. Yeah. Like if you, you know, if you've gone down to the platform or whatever, you're at the subway. You're in the subway. I rode the subway five times yesterday and it's still annoying. Give me your lines. Hey, fuck you!
23:54 Speaker 11 We love the subway.
23:54 Sean Fennessey? What lines was I on? R?
23:56 Speaker 11 Great.
23:57 Sean Fennessey? You got?
23:57 Speaker 11 It's a bad train.
23:58 Sean Fennessey? You guys paid for this.
24:00 Speaker 11 Keep going.
24:01 Sean Fennessey? I was on the 2. I was on the F.
24:03 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
24:04 Speaker 12 Did you get asked for a subway take?
24:07 Sean Fennessey? Did I get asked?
24:08 Speaker 12 You know, like?
24:08 Sean Fennessey? Oh, no.
24:08 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, why are we on it so much?
24:09 Sean Fennessey? If only.
24:09 Speaker 12 No.
24:10 Sean Fennessey? No.
24:11 Speaker 12 Do you want to give it now?
24:12 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, what's yours?
24:12 Speaker 12 No, not one that I can share.
24:14 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
24:17 Speaker 12 They're largely about the sandwich company subway and...
24:23 Sean Fennessey? Any stray subway thoughts before we figure out our draft order?
24:26 Speaker 11 Well, I asked if Gotham was eligible for this draft and you said, no, Gotham City.
24:31 Sean Fennessey? Gotham is not a real city.
24:32 Speaker 11 Right, it's not a real city.
24:34 Sean Fennessey? In the world of Batman, who is not a real person.
24:38 Speaker 11 You don't know that.
24:40 Sean Fennessey? Is anyone here Batman tonight? Is Batman here?
24:45 Speaker 11 So Joker's not eligible for subway, for anything.
24:50 Sean Fennessey? I mean, I don't think so. What do you? You want Gotham to be a part of the draft for tonight?
24:54 Amanda Dobbins? No, I don't.
24:55 Speaker 11 I was just stirring things up.
24:56 Amanda Dobbins? Hold on, though, hold on, because we have precedent.
25:00 Amanda Dobbins? Dark Knight.
25:01 Speaker 12 It's a Chicago movie.
25:02 Amanda Dobbins? Was it eligible in the Chicago draft?
25:04 Sean Fennessey? I don't even, did it get drafted? You guys know better than we do.
25:07 Speaker 12 Yeah.
25:07 Amanda Dobbins? It did.
25:08 Sean Fennessey? Who drafted it?
25:08 Speaker 12 I think I did.
25:09 Sean Fennessey? Tracy Letts?
25:09 Speaker 12 No, I did.
25:11 Sean Fennessey? Tracy Letts has not seen it.
25:12 Speaker 12 I don't think he's seen Dark Knight.
25:13 Amanda Dobbins? But he owns the Blu-ray.
25:14 Speaker 11 Tracy, the trench run sucks, Letts.
25:21 Speaker 11 He just tossed that take out.
25:23 Amanda Dobbins? It's great.
25:23 Speaker 11 He was just like, oh, by the way, trench run, ass.
25:26 Speaker 12 We all agree that Star Wars has a shitty ending. Waiting for you guys to jump in and high five.
25:32 Amanda Dobbins? That was a good Tracy impression, even with the hand. Yeah.
25:34 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
25:35 Amanda Dobbins? He loved Tracy.
25:36 Sean Fennessey? He has won Pulitzer's and Tony Awards and the first line of his obituary will be, guy who said the trench run sucks, has died. We love you, Tracy.
25:45 Speaker 12 He's doomed to appear in a Disney Plus show about the trench run from a guy working on the Death Star's perspective? No!
25:53 Sean Fennessey? Fuck! Why do we even have a trench? How did he make this shot?
26:02 Sean Fennessey? Jack, you might have to delete all this. Speaking of Jack, we have to set our draft order. So, let's do that.
26:10 Amanda Dobbins? Jack, can you tell us what kind of hat is being used tonight?
26:13 Speaker 09 Unfortunately, a New York Metropolitan's hat.
26:18 Speaker 09 Bring Pete back.
26:19 Amanda Dobbins? You don't want to come out? You don't want a shining moment? I can see Jack.
26:22 Speaker 09 Bring Pete back, any cost.
26:23 Sean Fennessey? I'm with you. I want to bring Pete back.
26:25 Speaker 09 People like the voice of God.
26:25 Amanda Dobbins? All right. We love you.
26:27 Speaker 09 All right, here we go. No Top Gun hat. Shout out Bobby Wagner in the building.
26:32 Sean Fennessey? Bobby!
26:35 Amanda Dobbins? Where are you? Wave, Bob.
26:40 Amanda Dobbins? I can't see Bob. Oh, there he is. Hi, Bob.
26:42 Sean Fennessey? I'm seeing Wagner.
26:42 Speaker 09 Where is he?
26:43 Sean Fennessey? I'm not worried about this.
26:47 Sean Fennessey? Can see the mustache in the shadow.
26:49 Speaker 09 Yeah. I had dinner with Bobby last night. He told me specifically to rig this draft for CR. And in fact, he has the first pick.
26:56 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, wow. All right. Everyone, welcome Elizabeth.
27:03 Speaker 09 This is so official. Selecting second, Amanda Dobbins.
27:14 Speaker 09 Third will be Griffin Newman.
27:18 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
27:20 Speaker 09 Fourth, Sean. Fifth...
27:23 Amanda Dobbins? But you get the term.
27:24 Speaker 09 I'm right where I want to be, baby.
27:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I was gonna say.
27:27 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
27:30 Sean Fennessey? So, we're gonna draft. Do you know, do you, in your heart of hearts, did you think there was always a first pick? There was always a place I was going to go?
27:36 Speaker 12 Well, so do you want to mention that Blockbuster is a $50 million threshold? So, it makes it a slightly tighter category, but the film I'm gonna pick, while I'm picking it in Blockbuster, is also just the one that I think reflects my experience in New York the most.
27:52 Sean Fennessey? Raging Bull.
27:54 Speaker 12 And it is Die Hard with a Vengeance.
27:57 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
28:02 Speaker 12 A great pick. I worked tirelessly as a mime in Central Park. And you have no idea what taxicabs would do to get across the park. No, this is, we just did this on rewatchables recently. I saw it on a big screen recently. It is such an incredible beat for beat, action movie set, fully within the rules of New York City, to the extent that, you know, the Sawmill River Parkway works that way. And features so much of the city. So I thought it was just like a great big canvas. And also I get a blockbuster.
28:36 Sean Fennessey? I think they're looking furiously for Die Hard with a Vengeance.
28:39 Speaker 12 Are you serious?
28:40 Sean Fennessey? No one saw that coming as the first overall pick.
28:45 Sean Fennessey? Did you know Martin Scorsese was born here?
28:47 Speaker 12 Yeah. I'll get Scorsese's down the line. I'll get all sorts of stuff.
28:52 Amanda Dobbins? There are 13 of them.
28:53 Speaker 12 There are more dirty cops than there are picks to pick from here. I can only get John McClane following an ambulance down an avenue once.
29:03 Sean Fennessey? Are you, are you like, how do you feel?
29:05 Amanda Dobbins? I'm, I'm torn here because I definitely thought he was gonna pick another movie first pick. And I want it. And, and I do also, there's a strategic thing here, right? Where I, I am gonna have to wait for a while and there's some films I want that I know you two in particular will also want.
29:26 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
29:27 Amanda Dobbins? So.
29:28 Sean Fennessey? Elizabeth is asking how to spell vengeance. She's like, what movie is this for the first overall pick?
29:33 Speaker 12 I really.
29:33 Sean Fennessey? I love this movie. What are you talking about? I love this movie. I would never take it for the overall.
29:37 Amanda Dobbins? They had like 3,000 cards printed and then we went off with the first one.
29:40 Speaker 12 You can still have Home Alone 2. It's okay.
29:46 Speaker 12 I know you love the supporting cast in that film.
29:48 Sean Fennessey? Do you remember?
29:50 Sean Fennessey? Do you remember we did, I want to say it was the 2013 movie draft? And see our ad in nowhere took Iron Man 3 first overall.
29:58 Speaker 12 Great movie.
29:59 Speaker 07 Best Marvel movie.
30:00 Sean Fennessey? And it was a Marvel movie. We were in, it was in COVID and, and Amanda and I were just like, dog, what?
30:07 Speaker 12 And then what happened to this podcast? Went to the moon, man.
30:12 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
30:13 Sean Fennessey? Okay, Die Hard with Vengeance. So Amanda, you have a choice. And that's going in blockbuster. Yes. Okay.
30:18 Amanda Dobbins? I am, there's one, these are both from my heart, but there's one that would be more strategically advantageous. And then there's one that I just have to have. And I have learned doing this with these psychos for so many years, that you gotta take what you want. So in Subway, I will be taking a movie with a pivotal Subway scene. In many ways, it is the inciting drama of the film. And that is Noah Baumbach's Frances Ha.
30:50 Speaker 11 Wow, wow. This is a crazy story.
30:54 Speaker 07 What is going on?
30:55 Speaker 11 This is crazy.
30:55 Speaker 07 This is not where I thought you were going in that ramp up.
30:58 Speaker 11 I love that movie.
31:00 Amanda Dobbins? It is, it is one of my favorite movies of the last 10 years of my lifetime. I was, okay, good, we got that one. Yeah, thank you so much.
31:08 Sean Fennessey? Frances Ha was lickety-split. That was right there. Elizabeth knew what was coming.
31:13 Speaker 11 She's nimble.
31:14 Amanda Dobbins? I am a Baumbach devotee, as are you. And I remember watching Kicking and Screaming in college and being like, I wish I could be that smart. And then Frances Ha was released in 2013, I guess, here. But I was, I was one year older than Frances Ha when it was, it was released. And I was also living in Brooklyn. And I have, I have not had a professional dance career or even a semi-professional dance career. But yeah, that's true.
31:47 Speaker 11 It's a long life.
31:47 Amanda Dobbins? And the choreography is quite promising. But I was also flailing. And so the magic of that movie is that it is both been like the most magical New York of the movies and of my mind that I imagined before I lived here and also the New York that I experienced. And It's, I mean, it's beautiful. It's my favorite. So if you haven't seen it, I recommend it. And Francis
32:15 Speaker 07 What's the subway scene? I was gonna say the same thing.
32:16 Amanda Dobbins? It is when Mickey Sumner
32:18 Speaker 07 I love that movie.
32:18 Amanda Dobbins? It is when Sophie tells Francis that she's moving in with Patch.
32:22 Speaker 07 Yeah.
32:23 Amanda Dobbins? Which, and there, there lies all the problems, you know?
32:26 Speaker 07 Yeah, it's just, I love that movie.
32:28 Amanda Dobbins? And then Francis takes the subway alone.
32:30 Sean Fennessey? Did we like teleport to the fifth round of this draft? Like, what is going on?
32:34 Amanda Dobbins? You love Francis
32:35 Sean Fennessey? It's a great I do love it. I think it's a
32:37 Speaker 07 It's a great New York movie.
32:38 Sean Fennessey? Absolute masterpiece, but
32:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
32:39 Sean Fennessey? I'm just, this is two picks in a row that I just did not see come.
32:42 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. Well, fine. Take Goodfellas. Go ahead.
32:44 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna take Goodfellas for God's
32:46 Speaker 07 Yeah, alright, alright.
32:48 Sean Fennessey? And Oscar winner, I'll take Goodfellas. Uh...
32:52 Speaker 07 It's not your pick, Sean.
32:53 Sean Fennessey? God damn it.
32:54 Amanda Dobbins? Do it.
32:58 Sean Fennessey? Griffin?
33:01 Speaker 07 Dude, you're the funniest thing ever right now.
33:03 Amanda Dobbins? Be a legend.
33:07 Speaker 07 But you have something loaded that wasn't that. Maybe not. I had, I had a big three and none of them have been taken yet. Right. I'm a little surprised.
33:16 Speaker 12 DH with a V is not in your big three?
33:19 Speaker 07 It was four. I, I do wanna say It was four. It was on the board. It was on the board. DH with a V has a great subway scene. I had that on my subway I would've drafted, I would've drafted in Blockbuster was my strategy there. Um, I
33:33 Sean Fennessey? Just tell us what they are. Just list all of them.
33:34 Speaker 07 No. Uh, I, I am going to, um, in
33:42 Speaker 07 in Oscar winner draft Dog Day Afternoon.
33:44 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
33:45 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, good one.
33:48 Speaker 07 It is, it is less of a strategic play and more, uh, if, if I look deep into my soul, that is my knee jerk greatest New York movie of all time answer.
33:58 Speaker 12 Good pick.
33:59 Speaker 07 Uh... Lumet, your favorite guy? Lumet, one of my absolute favorites, one of the great New York directors, and I think a little undersung in the canon of the great New York directors and made so many great New York masterpieces.
34:10 Sean Fennessey? Not only
34:11 Speaker 07 But it's, it's, I'm gonna say it. It is, it is like kinda the ultimate New York City as a character movie. The three ring circus of that film, the way it is all about this city reacting to the central drama. It's the best, it's the fucking best. It rules.
34:28 Speaker 11 It's about New York rooting for an underdog, too. It's got, you know, that spirit. It's one of the great outer borough movies. Which I thought of as like pitching that as a category. Outer borough. We thought of all five boroughs. That would have been crazy. We talked about that.
34:41 Sean Fennessey? That would have been hard. King of Staten Island, number one overall for Chris.
34:43 Amanda Dobbins? Right, yeah.
34:46 Sean Fennessey? Still on the board for you, potentially.
34:48 Speaker 07 Are you including, do you think of Long Island as part of this larger project here?
34:52 Sean Fennessey? I don't.
34:53 Speaker 07 That's the Burge and Tunnel draft. That's a different draft.
34:55 Sean Fennessey? I think there are-
34:55 Speaker 07 Different draft.
34:56 Sean Fennessey? Tri-city. How dare you.
34:58 Speaker 07 Tri-state area draft.
34:59 Sean Fennessey? How dare you, New York snob.
35:01 Speaker 07 I left Goodfellas for you.
35:03 Sean Fennessey? You did. Thank you so much. I will be taking Goodfellas. Thank you. Long Island is not New York City. It's just not. It's a different, it's a different part. And we're kind of okay with that, but not really. Goodfellas, though, wow. There is plenty of Long Island in Goodfellas, actually.
35:22 Speaker 07 There really is. In fact, you could say it's more of a Long Island film than a New York.
35:26 Sean Fennessey? Well, I would argue it's more of a, it is more of an outer boroughs film as well. In fact, most of what we see is in Brooklyn and Queens. In fact, a lot of those scenes in bars and in diners where we constantly see Jimmy and Henry talking, that is actually in New York that I'm very familiar with, that I visited as a kid, that I felt exposed to. It was not the Empire State Building. It was not the Statue of Liberty. It was where regular people lived and-
35:50 Speaker 11 And everyone in Goodfellas is regular, right?
35:55 Sean Fennessey? I think that they're perfectly nice people.
35:57 Speaker 11 Yeah.
35:57 Sean Fennessey? And I think everything that they did was fine.
36:00 Speaker 07 Lufthansa was just asking to get heisted.
36:02 Amanda Dobbins? We should clarify that Oscar winner is for a winner in any category.
36:08 Sean Fennessey? Any category.
36:08 Amanda Dobbins? Because Goodfellas famously did not-
36:10 Sean Fennessey? Not win Best Picture. It lost to Dances with Wolves, which we all agree was a- But Joe Pesci did win for Supporting Actor.
36:17 Speaker 11 Yeah.
36:17 Sean Fennessey? Amazing performance in that movie. And Oscar winner is a pretty robust category, but it feels like a nice place to put Goodfellas. So that's what I'm doing.
36:24 Amanda Dobbins? Very original. Good job.
36:28 Sean Fennessey? Just win, baby. That's the goal.
36:30 Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm gonna be pretty regular, I think, to start off. Do the right thing in drama, please.
36:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
36:38 Speaker 11 Come on.
36:42 Speaker 11 Which is, Viv Dog Day Afternoon is the number one, like, New York City as a character movie, right? And like, is, it's interesting, it's like, it's sort of about a city that's not here anymore, but it's also not like that, it's got that magic to it still. Um, yeah, the best, the best movie, it's one of the best movies ever made. It's an easy pick, it's in blue. Look, there's colors.
37:06 Speaker 07 We each have our own color.
37:08 Speaker 11 Oh, fuck.
37:09 Speaker 07 Yeah, I guess.
37:10 Sean Fennessey? No, that's not how it works.
37:11 Amanda Dobbins? No, that's not possible, yeah.
37:12 Speaker 11 Really?
37:13 Amanda Dobbins? Because they don't know, yeah, it's just, you know.
37:15 Speaker 11 It's just fun. Okay.
37:17 Sean Fennessey? Got different colors.
37:18 Speaker 11 Yeah, do the right thing. Sad story of an innocent pizza guy who has his day ruined. I'm joking.
37:24 Sean Fennessey? I'm joking.
37:30 Speaker 11 I'm so sorry.
37:31 Sean Fennessey? Business owners.
37:32 Amanda Dobbins? It's good.
37:33 Sean Fennessey? Just making some pies.
37:34 Speaker 07 That's a description in the Christmas Adventurers movie guide.
37:39 Speaker 07 Know the crowd.
37:40 Speaker 11 And then some contrash shows up.
37:42 Speaker 07 Yeah.
37:42 Speaker 11 That's also a reference to the film One Battle After Another, guys. I do not think that, um, yeah, maybe the most iconic New York movie, right? In the conversation?
37:51 Sean Fennessey? Up there, it's definitely up there.
37:52 Speaker 11 And then in Brooklyn movie?
37:54 Sean Fennessey? Best Brooklyn movie?
37:55 Speaker 11 Best Brooklyn movie.
37:56 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, sure. I mean, Dog Day Afternoon is Brooklyn as well.
37:59 Speaker 07 Is it? Never seen it. Not your kind of thing, you wouldn't like it.
38:04 Speaker 11 Yeah. And then in Blockbuster, I want Men in Black.
38:07 Amanda Dobbins? Wow.
38:09 Speaker 11 Which is the best New York blockbuster ever made.
38:14 Speaker 11 And is the number one.
38:16 Sean Fennessey? I bet she doesn't have this one down.
38:17 Amanda Dobbins? I bet she doesn't either.
38:19 Speaker 11 Uh, she's gonna get it. Cause I drafted it.
38:22 Sean Fennessey? She does.
38:22 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yes, Elizabeth.
38:24 Speaker 11 Men in Black.
38:25 Amanda Dobbins? You guys, Elizabeth comes prepared.
38:26 Sean Fennessey? The long list for this draft was 467 movies.
38:31 Speaker 11 Yeah.
38:32 Sean Fennessey? And we have cards for every single one.
38:34 Speaker 07 Except Die Hard with Avengers.
38:35 Sean Fennessey? Except for one. The first pick.
38:40 Speaker 11 We have cards for like The Crowd by King Vitor.
38:43 Sean Fennessey? We had to fly a separate plane in to get all the cards.
38:47 Speaker 11 But we did not see DH with a V coming. This movie came out in 1997. I lived in England, but I was still like pretty close. Shut the fuck up.
38:54 Speaker 12 I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything.
38:56 Speaker 11 It was a true for my whole family, like crying in the aisles experience of like New York City, you know, and like just the way everyone in that movie, it's about aliens and shit, but it's just about having a job in New York and dealing with life in the city every single day.
39:12 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
39:13 Speaker 11 It's so beautiful. It's a perfect movie.
39:16 Speaker 12 90 minutes long.
39:17 Speaker 11 It's very short.
39:19 Amanda Dobbins? Have you seen Men in Black?
39:21 Speaker 12 Yeah, why?
39:21 Amanda Dobbins? I don't know. Sometimes you really, the mid 90s things that children could see is sometimes.
39:26 Speaker 12 I was allowed to see anything I wanted. Yeah.
39:29 Sean Fennessey? Anything you wanted?
39:31 Speaker 12 Anything that was of interest to me, I was allowed to see. There was no rules about that kind of thing.
39:36 Sean Fennessey? Was that one of your three?
39:37 Speaker 12 Uh, no.
39:38 Sean Fennessey? But you wanted it.
39:39 Speaker 12 Yeah.
39:39 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
39:40 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
39:40 Speaker 12 I told you like the first sex scene I ever saw was in Excalibur. Remember?
39:44 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yeah. We know. Yes.
39:45 Sean Fennessey? Chris, my father is.
39:49 Sean Fennessey? Please.
39:49 Speaker 12 Mr. Fantasy, it's about King Arthur. Uh, and, um.
39:54 Sean Fennessey? Helen.
39:54 Speaker 12 I'll tell you later.
39:58 Speaker 12 It's very erotic.
40:03 Sean Fennessey? I have a pick.
40:04 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, it's your pick.
40:05 Sean Fennessey? I'm taking in blockbuster Ghostbusters.
40:12 Sean Fennessey? In part because I know who is picking next and I know how Griffin's mind works.
40:16 Speaker 12 Can I ask you a question just right off the top here?
40:18 Sean Fennessey? Just slow down. You're just getting a little aggressive.
40:21 Speaker 12 Do you think?
40:22 Sean Fennessey? I've just selected and haven't spoken yet about my pick.
40:24 Speaker 12 Ghostbusters. Go ahead and talk about Ghostbusters.
40:26 Sean Fennessey? What's your question?
40:27 Speaker 12 Do you think Ghostbusters True is actually more New York?
40:30 Sean Fennessey? Vigo the Carpathian?
40:32 Speaker 12 Yeah.
40:32 Sean Fennessey? He wasn't born in New York.
40:33 Speaker 12 No, I know. But he's like kind of feeding off of the psychic energy of the city.
40:37 Sean Fennessey? Well, you could make that case because the great monster at the end is the Statue of Liberty at the end of Ghostbusters 2. But I would argue Stay Puft Marstrel Man, really one of the first, you know, true.
40:50 Speaker 12 New Yorkers?
40:50 Sean Fennessey? New Yorkers?
40:51 Speaker 12 Yeah.
40:53 Sean Fennessey? He's kind of got the energy of a New Yorker. You know, he's like, get out of my way.
40:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, it's true.
40:58 Sean Fennessey? I want what I want.
40:59 Speaker 12 Yeah.
41:00 Sean Fennessey? I'm walking here.
41:02 Speaker 12 Right.
41:03 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, wow. Ghostbusters, that's not a card.
41:08 Speaker 07 Elizabeth. Everyone's trying their best. My take is that Ghostbusters, I'm jumping in here because you stole my pick, is that Ghostbusters is, one, is more a New York film, and Ghostbusters 2 is like a New York movie in quotes. I think Ghostbusters 1 is really smart comedically about understanding the tenor of this city and how it would react to things like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. And the response to that was so great from the world that Ghostbusters 2 is like, hot dog guys tripping over themselves, doing hand gestures, Statue of Liberty, all that, right? They go too hard. So it's like, it's more of a New York film texturally, or on a surface level.
41:51 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
41:51 Speaker 07 Like the River of Slime.
41:52 Amanda Dobbins? Griffin, you can't have it, though. So what's your pick?
41:54 Speaker 07 Well, two still out there.
41:55 Sean Fennessey? Are you a Ghostbusters 2 guy? Is that why you're asking?
41:57 Speaker 12 I always thought Vigo was pretty interesting.
41:59 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. You kind of have like a Vigo thing.
42:02 Speaker 12 Yeah, exactly.
42:02 Sean Fennessey? You kind of emit the same natural male energy.
42:06 Speaker 07 He's got good ideas, good politics.
42:08 Speaker 12 Yeah.
42:10 Sean Fennessey? You could be Chris the Philadelphian.
42:11 Speaker 12 Call me that from now on.
42:14 Sean Fennessey? Okay, Griffin, you're up.
42:16 Speaker 07 Uh, well, that was the move I was gonna make, so I'm...
42:19 Amanda Dobbins? So two of three are gone?
42:21 Speaker 07 Uh, yes.
42:22 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
42:22 Speaker 07 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I think this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to, in subway movie, draft Spider-Man 2.
42:31 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
42:31 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
42:32 Speaker 07 Yeah.
42:33 Amanda Dobbins? That's the...
42:34 Speaker 07 It's...
42:35 Amanda Dobbins? That's upside down kiss.
42:36 Speaker 07 It's a fantasy subway. It's a fantasy subway.
42:38 Amanda Dobbins? Which one is upside down?
42:39 Sean Fennessey? This is when he saves the train.
42:40 Speaker 07 It transforms into the, uh...
42:43 Amanda Dobbins? The same movie.
42:43 Speaker 07 The Chicago L. Yeah, it's an elevated subway in Manhattan. Yeah.
42:46 Amanda Dobbins? I know that the upside down kiss is not on the train. I was just extrapolating.
42:50 Sean Fennessey? Well, isn't the upside down kiss in the first Spider-Man?
42:52 Speaker 07 Correct, yes.
42:52 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, it is? Oh, okay.
42:53 Speaker 07 And Spider-Man 1, he also saves the, um, the ferry, right?
42:57 Sean Fennessey? This man is leaving because you've drafted Spider-Man 2.
43:00 Speaker 07 I apologize.
43:02 Sean Fennessey? He's like, I've had enough of this.
43:03 Speaker 07 Um, it's like...
43:04 Sean Fennessey? He's fools.
43:05 Speaker 07 It's one of the great extended subway set pieces. It takes liberties with the actual function of the MTA itself, but I think it overcomes that.
43:14 Speaker 12 Fun, it's fun.
43:15 Speaker 07 In characterizing the experience of the subway so well.
43:21 Speaker 11 I love how this crowd is incense anytime a handwritten sign comes out. Incense.
43:27 Amanda Dobbins? For the record, you made the list.
43:29 Sean Fennessey? I'm almost certain that Ghostbusters is on the list, so I'm super confused. But you know what? That's good. We're just, we're flowing. This is a live podcast. It's all happening live.
43:38 Speaker 07 The moment where all the New Yorkers step in front of Spider-Man's body to block him from Doc Ock. You want to get to Spidey, you gotta go through me. And then also them carrying his passed out body after he's... He's just a kid. And they put the mask on him. We'll keep your secret safe.
43:56 Sean Fennessey? And that's what you were doing with Cuomo this morning, right? You were like, if you want to get to him, you're gonna have to get through me. Please, Sean, Andrew Cuomo does not take the subway. Come on.
44:09 Speaker 07 When we did Raimi on Blank Check, I found this quote from him where he said, "To me, the big... The key to the Spider-Man movies is no one else in the films knows that Peter Parker's the main character. That everyone treats him like he's a background actor in his own movie." And I think that's very New York. It is a thing I love about the kind of like beautiful pain of New York City. Is that everyone's constantly fucking knocking you down and cutting you down to size. And yet you have these moments of like collective power of a bunch of fucking like salami eating New Yorkers being like, "We love Spider-Man! We gotta help him!" He's okay! You know, it swings both ways. Much like Spider-Man.
44:50 Sean Fennessey? Yes. And he means in the bedroom.
44:53 Speaker 07 Yeah, right. Flip in the menu.
44:55 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. You must be devastated to have Spider-Man on the board.
44:59 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, you know.
45:00 Speaker 12 You've got a lot of your key texts taken from here.
45:04 Speaker 11 Yeah, these are some boy movies now that I'm looking at it. Princess Ha fighting the fight.
45:09 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, I do think that Sean is gonna mock me again for... Well, I don't know, actually. Because I know he likes this movie too. And this is the one, I'm gonna look you right in the eye.
45:16 Speaker 07 Okay.
45:17 Amanda Dobbins? I don't know if you, if you want this.
45:18 Speaker 07 Oh, fuck, are you gonna take... Yeah.
45:19 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I think, I think I'm really sorry. But in drama, I'm, I'm gonna take 25th Hour.
45:25 Speaker 12 That's fucked up.
45:27 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
45:29 Sean Fennessey? Both dramas are spikes.
45:30 Amanda Dobbins? I do sort of feel if you are drafting in this that you have to have a Spike Lee movie. This is Spike Lee's movie adapted by David Benioff from his novel about, you know, Monty, a drug dealer. It's his last day before going to jail. It is also famously Spike Lee's 9/11 movie. It is a movie that is a love letter to New York. It has the greatest ending of all time, which I watched before I came here today. And
45:58 Sean Fennessey? You do that every day.
45:58 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I was like, well, I was like, now I'm wrecked. Now I just have to like, sit here for 20 minutes.
46:03 Sean Fennessey? Chris does the speech in the mirror. Every day. Yeah.
46:08 Amanda Dobbins? An absolutely like, like a beautiful, angry, heartbroken, like amazing tribute to New York. So not like, I mean, it's not as fun as Ghostbusters or Men in Black, but a masterpiece, so.
46:22 Sean Fennessey? Not eligible in Blockbuster.
46:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
46:23 Sean Fennessey? Great movie.
46:25 Amanda Dobbins? I'm gonna have fun later.
46:27 Speaker 12 That's a great pick.
46:28 Amanda Dobbins? Thank you. Also one of Chris Ryan's favorite.
46:30 Speaker 12 I love that movie more than, more than Die Hard with a Vengeance.
46:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
46:35 Speaker 12 That's my fault.
46:38 Speaker 12 Okay, so for Subway movie, I'm gonna go with The French Connection.
46:43 Sean Fennessey? Nice.
46:43 Amanda Dobbins? There we go.
46:46 Sean Fennessey? Good pick.
46:47 Speaker 12 One of the most harrowing displays of chasing a Marseille heroin dealer into a subway station and just missing him and just be like, god damn it.
46:56 Sean Fennessey? Well, he outsmarts him.
46:57 Speaker 12 I know. Right, well, that's, I mean, the movie would have ended right there if it had not. We would have gotten the car chase. Best known for this incredible car chase directed by William Friedkin. This is a multi-time Oscar winner, so somewhat strategically, I take that off of the board. But one of the great cop movies, one of the great New York movies, and changed the way car chases were shot on film. Reflected even in One Battle After Another, just recently released. So that leaves me with another pick.
47:27 Sean Fennessey? Life of a Showgirl is not eligible.
47:31 Speaker 12 How many times have you gone to the theater?
47:32 Amanda Dobbins? Best album since Lover, just throwing that out there.
47:36 Amanda Dobbins? Free yourselves from the Jack Andonoff prison.
47:41 Sean Fennessey? I asked you this yesterday because you were the first person I ever heard say that they like this new album. I was shocked.
47:46 Amanda Dobbins? It's true, but I was like 12 hours late to it because I was sleeping. So everyone had gotten mad. And then I listened and I was like, I'm bopping, you know?
47:53 Speaker 07 I can't believe the world we live in now is being 12 hours late to an album.
47:59 Sean Fennessey? Because you dared sleep.
48:03 Speaker 12 In action, horror, thriller, I'm gonna take Rear Window.
48:06 Amanda Dobbins? Good. This is, alright.
48:10 Speaker 12 Which, I'm not even sure, did they shoot this on like a soundstage somewhere? But is very, very reflective of the like weird like, oh, that guy's watching that again. Alright, you know, like.
48:22 Sean Fennessey? Were you like a, were you looking out the window?
48:26 Speaker 12 No, I mean, like, but you were just, when you move here, and if you're like, I was living in Brooklyn and like, all of a sudden I like opened the shade and there was just like a guy right there. And I was like, I guess we're neighbors.
48:37 Sean Fennessey? Was it Batman?
48:39 Speaker 12 It was Jimmy Stewart.
48:41 Speaker 11 When you move here, you go get your telephoto lens.
48:44 Speaker 12 Yeah.
48:44 Speaker 11 You set it up.
48:45 Speaker 12 Grace Kelly's making me breakfast. It's good stuff. One of the great Hitchcock movies, one of the greatest movies ever made.
48:52 Speaker 11 Yeah, the best.
48:53 Amanda Dobbins? And also isolates a very New York condition.
48:55 Speaker 12 Yes.
48:56 Speaker 11 The best theater experience you can get from a movie, I think.
48:59 Sean Fennessey? Rear Window, you think?
49:00 Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, a movie that is wonderful at home, but like is 100 billion times better in a movie theater. Yeah.
49:06 Sean Fennessey? Great take.
49:07 Speaker 11 Yeah.
49:07 Sean Fennessey? What's the outdoor movie theater in Brooklyn overlooking the bridge? The skyline?
49:11 Speaker 11 I think it's The Skyline. I went there a lot in COVID. I haven't been there since.
49:15 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I saw Rear Window there with my wife.
49:16 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah. I saw Armageddon there, one of the great New York movies.
49:18 Speaker 11 We saw Armageddon there, one of the great New York movies, Eddie Griffin, The Little Chihuahua, remember all that?
49:24 Sean Fennessey? It's Eddie Griffin, right?
49:25 Speaker 11 Yeah.
49:28 Sean Fennessey? You got another pick?
49:29 Amanda Dobbins? That was it?
49:29 Sean Fennessey? He did two.
49:30 Amanda Dobbins? What did you just take? Rear Window and?
49:32 Speaker 12 Fringe Connection.
49:32 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yeah. Pretty good. Okay. It's me again. And if I had your name and address, I would send you a bouquet of freshly sharpened pencils.
49:40 Speaker 11 Okay, okay. I was like, what are we doing here?
49:42 Amanda Dobbins? You're waiting. But yes, in blockbuster, my first Nora Ephron pick, we'll see whether there's another, is in fact You've Got Mail. I, yeah.
49:52 Speaker 11 Whoa, yeah.
49:53 Amanda Dobbins? I do know that this is controversial. I think that When Harry Met Sally is the best and the most influential. You've Got Mail is my personal favorite. It came out when I was in high school and I watched it 1,000 times. And I can quote every bit of it. And it is also very of the Upper West Side and makes reference to the Upper West Side. So in some ways, that was my introduction to that part of New York. You know, and a sort of indefensible movie from a moral perspective.
50:30 Speaker 11 Like most of her movies.
50:32 Amanda Dobbins? Sure, but yeah, it's true. No, most of them, but that one's like especially bad of like, you know, he was just catfishing her the whole time, but he's Tom Hanks, so it's very.
50:41 Speaker 12 It's early email, though. Like, who knew?
50:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
50:43 Speaker 12 You know what I mean? We're just trying it out. We're just trying to figure it out.
50:46 Amanda Dobbins? You know, in that scene when they're like instant messaging, which is, are you guys old enough to know what that is? Anyway, and she like hides from the computer because she's like, can he see me? You know, I still do that. It's really ingrained into my life. And I was gonna ask whether they could like music cue The Cranberries for when I picked this, but I don't know. Then it got too complicated. Anyway.
51:13 Speaker 11 That would cost $180,000.
51:18 Amanda Dobbins? And I would have had to have a pumpkin, you know, a whole thing. So You've Got Mail.
51:22 Speaker 11 Interesting. Not on my board. It's about the Barnes and Noble in 80th and Broadway. I grew up in 89th and Amsterdam, which displaced West Side Books, which, you know, it's about that. And now I look at that Barnes and Noble, I'm like, this is an institution of the Upper West. It's a beautiful Barnes and Noble. It's crazy. It's true.
51:40 Speaker 12 I like how you did Spider-Man 2 voice about that. They sell books in here. Get out of here.
51:45 Speaker 11 Paper.
51:46 Speaker 07 It's like, it's, to me, like, one of the better movies about like the battle for the soul of New York.
51:53 Amanda Dobbins? Which is a direct quote from Kathleen Kelly.
51:55 Speaker 07 Yeah. And I respect that pick. And because of that, I'm going to draft When Harry Met Sally in Blockbuster.
52:01 Speaker 11 Yep.
52:01 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
52:02 Speaker 07 You boxed me in.
52:03 Amanda Dobbins? I knew what I was doing.
52:04 Speaker 07 I had to do it.
52:05 Amanda Dobbins? I respect it.
52:06 Speaker 07 Needed a Nora on my board.
52:11 Speaker 07 Not a Nora.
52:12 Sean Fennessey? Not a Nora.
52:13 Speaker 11 Yeah.
52:13 Sean Fennessey? A Nora.
52:14 Speaker 07 A Nora Ephron picture. One of the most beautifully shot New York movies, in my opinion. Barry Sonnenfeld, just fucking going to the mat.
52:24 Speaker 11 Blacking out, just being insane.
52:26 Speaker 07 Yeah, and like one of the great.
52:27 Speaker 11 Just like creating autumn.
52:28 Sean Fennessey? This is why you come here.
52:30 Speaker 11 So good.
52:30 Sean Fennessey? Is to hear about Barry Sonnenfeld blacking out during the making of When Harry Met Sally. This is movie podcasting, guys.
52:38 Speaker 07 Leaves had only ever been green until When Harry Met Sally.
52:41 Speaker 11 He was like, they could be brown.
52:43 Speaker 07 Yeah, he was like, let's toast these motherfuckers. No, it's like going to the great walking and talking movies. I mean, I feel like it's less texturally explicitly New York-y than You Got Mail, which is like about the city, but it is so much a movie about New York.
52:57 Amanda Dobbins? But it's on location there at the, like the Temple of Dender in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. There, where do they have lunch? Like, cats' is at the boat basin when Carrie Fisher is going through the rolodex, you know? Yeah, they're everywhere.
53:09 Speaker 07 How well shot it is.
53:10 Amanda Dobbins? Sharper image, you know?
53:11 Speaker 07 It is a movie that is just like full of New York locations in a way that no one would have access to today.
53:16 Sean Fennessey? A pillar of New York iconography, sharper image.
53:21 Speaker 07 Gone but never forgotten.
53:23 Amanda Dobbins? Singing "Frendo" on top in front of Ira!
53:28 Speaker 11 Fucking Ira.
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55:11 Sean Fennessey? I have a pick, right?
55:11 Speaker 12 Yeah.
55:12 Sean Fennessey? Do you feel like you've got too many choices? You seem vexed.
55:17 Sean Fennessey? Well.
55:19 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, great.
55:21 Sean Fennessey? There's a world where I just draft five boy movies, right? Yeah. And it's just like. Don't do that. What a sad, desolate loser. Yeah. And. You know, thinking about The Underground Man and what he contributed to society. I'm referring to Travis Bickle. Yeah. So in drama, I will be taking Taxi Driver.
55:45 Sean Fennessey? Had to be done. Which I think is also an incredible New York movie in terms of the conversation of what New York looks, sounds, and feels like. Yeah. Not just being in the back of cabs, but being in those porn theaters, wandering into the, which, you know, I learned about from Chris and. Only when they show Excalibur. Yeah.
56:06 Sean Fennessey? Which is that I love that, you know, the sequence, obviously, where he goes, where Bickle goes into the campaign office, which is just right on a street corner and kind of prominently displayed. And that is the kind of essence of New York that I find is different from other cities, where everything is just kind of right in front of you all of the time and feels very accessible and approachable and you're kind of constantly surrounded by people. It really struck me this week, just hanging out the last couple of days. How isolated I am in Los Angeles. And so the idea of the major isolation of Travis Pickle.
56:36 Speaker 11 You do also live in a castle, right?
56:39 Sean Fennessey? I live in Downton Abbey, which I had flown to Los Angeles. Nevertheless, no, I, obviously, New York is, or LA is a lonely city. New York is not a lonely city.
56:47 Amanda Dobbins? People are around all the time.
56:48 Sean Fennessey? Constantly surrounded, but Travis Pickle is alone. He is one of the most alone people in the history of movies. And this movie is very good at showing that. It's not a very fun pick. Not a lot of people here are like, god damn it, yes! Pickle, you did it, man! But it's an amazing film.
57:03 Speaker 12 That guy has no ripple effects in current society! Awesome!
57:09 Sean Fennessey? So you're blaming Scorsese for State of Affairs?
57:12 Speaker 12 Never. He just had, he had his finger on the pulse. And that pulse still goes beep, beep, beep.
57:20 Sean Fennessey? Okay, David.
57:21 Speaker 11 I'm gonna take The Royal Tenenbaums in comedy.
57:25 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
57:25 Speaker 12 Nice job.
57:27 Amanda Dobbins? In comedy?
57:28 Speaker 11 Yes, I'm taking it in comedy.
57:30 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
57:30 Speaker 11 Which is where I want it.
57:32 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
57:33 Speaker 11 I'm, that sounded weird. Where I want it! It's another, I'm picking, another sort of like wonderful, shabby New York movie. Like a specific neighborhood, a specific vibe, a specific sort of era. It's sort of set a little timeless, like a little before.
57:47 Sean Fennessey? What era is it, would you say?
57:49 Speaker 11 It feels like, kind of like, early 80s, right? Like sort of Wes Anderson's childhood, even though he didn't grow up in...
57:54 Sean Fennessey? Like 1990, 79.
57:56 Speaker 11 Hamilton Heights, yeah, exactly. And it's like very romantic about the city in a way, even though it's not really about the city. But like the scene of where they go down to the go-kart place and all that. Like, it's just like showing you parts of the city you don't get to see much and...
58:12 Speaker 07 I think it's also, it's like, his, a child who has not yet visited New York's imagination of what New York is like.
58:19 Speaker 11 The music is so evocative of the city and like, I just, it's also just about like the kinds of freaks that end up succeeding here, in a way. Right?
58:29 Sean Fennessey? Eli Cash?
58:30 Speaker 11 Yeah. Yeah, well, he's got some good ideas. Um, has he made a New York movie in a while? Not really. He did such a good job, Wes.
58:40 Speaker 07 Yeah, there's not one since Tenenbaums, I believe.
58:43 Speaker 11 Get off your ass, Anderson!
58:47 Speaker 07 He's an expat now.
58:48 Speaker 11 Yeah.
58:48 Sean Fennessey? He moved to Europe.
58:49 Speaker 11 He's a Parisian boy now.
58:50 Speaker 07 Yeah.
58:51 Speaker 11 Um, but great movie. Another, I'm picking a lot of movies that were big for me when I was like 14 years old, but that seems appropriate.
58:58 Speaker 07 Because you were living in?
59:00 Sean Fennessey? Northern England.
59:02 Speaker 11 Uh, what?
59:03 Sean Fennessey? You say northern England?
59:04 Speaker 11 I mean, I went to college in northern England. He lived in North London. I lived in North London.
59:10 Speaker 07 Camden, Kenish Town, if anyone cares.
59:13 Speaker 11 All right.
59:15 Speaker 11 You have another pick? Hmm? Oh, yes, right. I have another pick. In Subway, I want the Taking of Pelham 123.
59:22 Speaker 11 This is my favorite New York movie. Original or remake? Hmm? Original or remake? Original. I love the remake. Yeah. I have a lot of fondness for the remake. The remake has an incredibly involved scene where Denzel explains subway switching that is technically accurate, and I really appreciate it. Whereas this has a scene where the IRT Pelham line goes to Coney Island, which is not possible. The train would not fit on those tracks. Vital for action and all that, I get it.
59:51 Sean Fennessey? And yet still, you're taking it.
59:52 Speaker 11 I love this. This is my favorite movie of all time, I think.
59:55 Speaker 07 I, I was confident you were gonna take this first. Did you just think the rest of us wouldn't fight you for it?
1:00:00 Speaker 11 I took a calculated bet that you guys would pick weird shit like Francis Ah.
1:00:05 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:00:08 Speaker 11 Don't be an asshole. Look, it's a celebrated movie, and I think it's got like such a fan base now. Um, but like, I do feel like it was sort of more of like a forgotten-ish, like, I mean, it's a Joseph Sargent movie. Like, it's not like a great auteur. And it's sort of, for a while, was this trivia fact of like, that's where Tarantino got the Mr. Blue, Mr. Green from Reservoir Dogs, because they've all, you know, all the bank rob, the subway heist guys do that in Taking of Pelham 123. Do you guys like this movie?
1:00:36 Sean Fennessey? I love it.
1:00:36 Speaker 11 I'm talking a lot.
1:00:36 Sean Fennessey? Yes. No, I think it's an amazing pick.
1:00:38 Speaker 11 It's a great New York movie because it's about a fucking thing that happens, and then everyone in New York's whose job it is to deal with it, a hostage situation on a subway platform, is like, ah, Jesus Christ. Like, the mayor, Walter Matthau, the cop, Jerry Stiller, the, you know, train, the sub, MTA, I was just like, what, what now? This shit? I fucking could barely be alive here, and now I gotta deal with this?
1:01:03 Sean Fennessey? The criminals also have that energy. Robert Shaw, Martin Ballson, Hector Elizondo. Yes.
1:01:08 Speaker 11 Yes.
1:01:09 Sean Fennessey? They're all like, I guess we'll rob this train.
1:01:11 Speaker 11 They're like, can we have like 10 grand in the mirrors? Like, we don't have any fucking money. It's 1974. It's the best movie ever made. If you've never seen it, it's the, I mean, it's not, it's not the best movie, but it's my favorite movie. I watch it all the time.
1:01:27 Amanda Dobbins? It's a great pick.
1:01:31 Speaker 11 Go rogue.
1:01:32 Amanda Dobbins? Do something fun. Yeah.
1:01:34 Speaker 12 Express yourself.
1:01:35 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, let's go.
1:01:35 Speaker 11 Go rogue?
1:01:36 Speaker 12 Yeah.
1:01:36 Speaker 11 You have two Marty movies and Ghostbusters. It's a little obvious.
1:01:41 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I'm freaking crushing it right now.
1:01:42 Speaker 11 Yeah, you are.
1:01:45 Sean Fennessey? In action horror thriller, I'll be taking Uncut Gems.
1:01:47 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
1:01:52 Amanda Dobbins? That's good.
1:01:54 Sean Fennessey? That's, that's me.
1:01:55 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, you know, it's not really diverging from the path very much, but it's good.
1:01:58 Sean Fennessey? I can only be myself. And I'll tell, I'll tell you a couple of things. One, I saw Uncut Gems for the first time at the Telluride Film Festival, which was a huge mistake for the Telluride Film Festival. Because they put that movie on for me and 772-year-old men and women. And when the movie started, I was like, this is probably the best movie I've ever seen. And 640 people walked out halfway through. They were like, I cannot believe you dare show us this. Because this is really a genuine artifact of modern New York and a modern kind of anxiety and a modern crime thriller. And a lot of the movies that we're drafting tonight, obviously were huge inspirations for Uncut Gems and what the Safdie brothers were doing with that movie,
1:02:41 Sean Fennessey? which is about a jeweler who's deep in debt and is looking for a way out. And spoiler alert, finds a way out, in a manner of speaking. But this is one of the more thrilling movies in recent memory and a very, very, very clear example of great on-location New York filmmaking, especially the scene outside of the auction hall when
1:03:05 Speaker 12 It gets thrown in the
1:03:05 Sean Fennessey? when he, yes, when he's thrown, and he's, he's encountering all of these men in the street who all want something from him. And the Safdie's are so good at casting real people in their movies. And all of those people are from New York City. And if you've seen the movie, you know exactly what I'm talking about. So was that fun enough for you?
1:03:20 Amanda Dobbins? It was good. Yeah. Good job.
1:03:22 Sean Fennessey? Thanks.
1:03:25 Sean Fennessey? I live to serve.
1:03:27 Speaker 07 When I was doing draft strategizing, I realized you could make the case for Uncut Gems in drama, comedy, or thriller, and also could have drafted it in blockbuster.
1:03:38 Sean Fennessey? That's right. So actually, let's talk about that, because Chris asked me, are the classic kind of crime dramas, are they only eligible in drama? And I think that maybe the hallowed ones are dramas, but the more recent ones-
1:03:51 Speaker 12 I was saying to Amanda backstage that if it had, if it's like French Connection, I think would have been available in thriller or drama, but it's a thriller action because it's got incredible set pieces. I can think of several other New York City crime dramas that have no set piece.
1:04:05 Speaker 11 Like Serpico probably doesn't-
1:04:07 Speaker 12 Yeah.
1:04:08 Speaker 07 Drama. But I think it's what you just identified. It's whether or not it's tapping into New York anxiety. If the anxiety is there, it becomes a thriller.
1:04:16 Speaker 11 Taxi Driver, like, horror? Not really.
1:04:20 Sean Fennessey? I don't think so.
1:04:20 Speaker 11 Like, yeah.
1:04:20 Sean Fennessey? I think it's a drama.
1:04:21 Speaker 11 Yeah, it's a drama.
1:04:22 Sean Fennessey? Like a character study.
1:04:23 Speaker 11 Right.
1:04:24 Sean Fennessey? Griffin, you're up.
1:04:25 Speaker 07 Yes.
1:04:26 Sean Fennessey? You have to manifest.
1:04:26 Amanda Dobbins? What do you have left?
1:04:28 Speaker 07 What do I have left?
1:04:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:04:29 Speaker 07 Many, many things. Too many things. But I think-
1:04:32 Sean Fennessey? Die Hard with a Vengeance is off the board.
1:04:33 Speaker 07 I know.
1:04:35 Speaker 12 But you guys are sweating it now, right? You're like, damn it. I wish all my lives-
1:04:40 Speaker 11 Now you've got two bottles, you're filling them up, you're trying to-
1:04:43 Sean Fennessey? I genuinely thought about making that a trivia question, was I would bring the jugs out from DH with a V and see if anyone onstage could solve it, but that just seemed like, kind of risky with all the electronics around.
1:04:55 Speaker 07 I'm a little surprised I'm in a position to draft this, that you have not already taken off the board, CR, unless I've misidentified-
1:05:02 Amanda Dobbins? I was really stressed, and then you said that CR hasn't drafted it, and now I'm relieved.
1:05:05 Speaker 07 In action horror thriller, I'm gonna take The Warriors.
1:05:08 Speaker 12 Okay.
1:05:09 Speaker 07 Which is like-
1:05:10 Speaker 11 Right.
1:05:11 Speaker 07 -one of the best funhouse mirror depictions of New York City ever, but also, if you watch Fox News, a sobering, realistic take of what is happening outside our window every day.
1:05:22 Speaker 11 That's it, yeah. It's a great subway movie, too, but you have it, so.
1:05:25 Speaker 07 I thought about putting it in subway. But yeah, I mean, it is often cited. Die Hard with a Vengeance is another one that I think gets the brownie points for this, of being like, a movie without geographic cheats. It actually uses the grid and the layout of the city and the boroughs and the public transit and the walking paths.
1:05:45 Sean Fennessey? Makes a point to force the characters to wait on the train, the way you have to wait on the train on a long ride to Coney Island.
1:05:54 Speaker 07 Yes.
1:05:54 Sean Fennessey? Why did you go to Columbia?
1:05:56 Speaker 07 You know, I've never...
1:05:58 Sean Fennessey? You have to go back to...
1:05:59 Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, that's right.
1:05:59 Speaker 07 Yeah. I've never had a night of quite that level of intensity, but it does somehow get at the feeling of being like, "Oh, my God, now I have to get home," you know?
1:06:08 Sean Fennessey? Did you consider full Baseball Furies attire tonight?
1:06:10 Speaker 07 Yeah. I brought a baseball jersey backstage. I chose not to wear...
1:06:14 Speaker 11 I thought about wearing my Edwin Diaz jersey, and I thought it didn't look good enough in it.
1:06:17 Speaker 07 And I was gonna wear my minor league Brooklyn Cyclones Toy Story jersey.
1:06:21 Speaker 11 Yeah, right.
1:06:23 Speaker 07 That I bought from their recent Toy Story night. That's how you get me to go to a sporting event.
1:06:30 Speaker 07 But yeah, no, I'm picking the Warriors.
1:06:33 Sean Fennessey? Okay, good pick.
1:06:34 Amanda Dobbins? All right.
1:06:34 Sean Fennessey? And takes it off the board for Subway as well.
1:06:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yes. Okay. I already have a Subway. And I could draft this in outer boroughs if this were a thing that we're doing, but instead I will do it in comedy. And another music cue that I couldn't get cleared, it's Working Girl, obviously.
1:06:53 Amanda Dobbins? Which is one of my favorite movies. And, you know, it starts after circling the Statue of Liberty with a, you know, a young woman going to Manhattan trying to make things happen. And, you know, there were a lot of movies in the late 80s of just, you know, yuppie women trying to make it happen. This is my favorite, also directed by Mike Nichols, sort of the consummate New Yorker.
1:07:17 Sean Fennessey? What do you relate to about this movie?
1:07:19 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:07:22 Amanda Dobbins? Being in love with Harrison Ford. I do feel that this is the hottest that Harrison Ford has ever been on screen. And that does include Witness. But we can litigate that another time.
1:07:35 Sean Fennessey? Where would you litigate it?
1:07:38 Amanda Dobbins? With some people on the stage at a time...
1:07:41 Sean Fennessey? PR?
1:07:43 Amanda Dobbins? He did recently get a Blu-ray of it, right? You got one of those?
1:07:45 Speaker 07 I did, yes. Blu-ray 4K. It was gifted to me from Tracy Litz.
1:07:49 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, at like minute 300 of the physical media draft.
1:07:53 Speaker 07 Most beautiful 300 minutes of my life. He rolled out a second suitcase, and now came Witness.
1:07:58 Amanda Dobbins? Anyway, Working Girl and All-Timer.
1:08:02 Sean Fennessey? Great pick.
1:08:05 Sean Fennessey? Okay, Chris.
1:08:06 Speaker 12 Okay.
1:08:07 Sean Fennessey? Good day to Die Hard?
1:08:10 Speaker 12 Comedy.
1:08:12 Amanda Dobbins? But this is because there was a typo that changes that is disrespectful to so. Yeah.
1:08:19 Amanda Dobbins? So it was prepared, but that's better.
1:08:21 Sean Fennessey? Thank you, Elizabeth.
1:08:22 Speaker 12 So when we were backstage, our producer, Jack Sander, was telling a story about how last night at 12:30, someone reached out to him and had like a magical offer of socializing for him. And he was like, just sit by the phone. I'm gonna come get you or you're gonna come meet me. 12:30, 2 AM. Here's back from this person. Sorry, it's not gonna happen. And that thing is like the central conceit of After Hours. And so I'm gonna put this in comedy, but the magic slash nightmare of, wait, where am I? How did I get down here? I don't have any money. Doesn't seem to matter. Yes, it does. Shit. Like that kind of rolling,
1:09:02 Speaker 12 snowballing into hell or heaven or into a plaster encasement. Who knows? Is really like After Hours captures that about the city. So while it starts with a phone call, you end, you know, being wrapped in plaster.
1:09:18 Speaker 11 Plaster Paris, technically.
1:09:20 Sean Fennessey? I, um, I was thinking about this for Subway because this features one of the greatest Subway scenes of all time.
1:09:25 Speaker 11 He doesn't get on.
1:09:26 Speaker 12 It's why I asked.
1:09:27 Sean Fennessey? Griffin Dunn, he goes to the window and he tries to get a Subway token and he doesn't realize that at midnight, the fare has changed and gone up. And he's got, he's 25 cents short on the fare. And he says to the guy in the window, can you just give it to me? Like, no one's gonna know. Just give it to me. And the guy behind the window, who's the greatest New York actor of all time, says, I don't know, I could go to a party, get drunk, tell someone.
1:09:53 Speaker 11 It's the best movie ever made.
1:09:55 Sean Fennessey? And then Dunn goes to jump the turnstile and he jumps right into a cop. And if you haven't seen After Hours, you should see it.
1:10:03 Speaker 12 The great New York Griffin movie. I will say definitive.
1:10:06 Speaker 11 Griffin Dunn, yeah, right. It's Soho Canon. I've been trying to put together a list quietly of the Soho.
1:10:11 Sean Fennessey? Soho Canon.
1:10:12 Speaker 11 Yes.
1:10:12 Speaker 12 Oh, wow.
1:10:13 Speaker 11 It is the number one Soho movie, like, just cobblestones, weird warehouses, you know, the empty vibe of that neighborhood.
1:10:19 Speaker 12 Does Wall Street count or no?
1:10:21 Sean Fennessey? Where does Caught Stealing land in that?
1:10:23 Speaker 11 Caught Stealing lands in the garbage where it belongs. That movie is bad.
1:10:29 Speaker 12 Okay, so I have After Hours in comedy. And in Oscar winner, I will take All That Jazz.
1:10:37 Amanda Dobbins? There we go.
1:10:40 Speaker 12 Largely set in theaters and in Roy Scheider's mind, Roy Scheider or Bob Fosse's mind, but still captures the desperation of trying to make it in New York and also the anxiety and depression of what happens when you've made it in New York and are trying to keep your hands on it. Roy Scheider plays Joe, who's basically Bob Fosse, trying to mount this say everything, leave it all on the field production of a musical.
1:11:06 Sean Fennessey? Do you remember the name of the show that he's producing?
1:11:09 Speaker 12 I actually don't.
1:11:10 Sean Fennessey? It's New York slash LA.
1:11:12 Speaker 12 Oh, poignant. And Roy Scheider gives...
1:11:17 Speaker 11 Dodgers are winning, by the way.
1:11:19 Speaker 12 This is one of my favorite performances. It's definitely my favorite Roy Scheider performance, but it's one of my favorite acting performances. So, All That Jazz for Oscar winner. Won Best Editing and a bunch of other stuff.
1:11:31 Sean Fennessey? Polite applause.
1:11:32 Speaker 11 It's the best fucking movie.
1:11:35 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, so I have two categories left. I have action horror thriller and Oscar winner, I believe. Yes. Okay.
1:11:43 Amanda Dobbins? I'm gonna go with my heart. And this one is also from my friend Katie, who's in the audience and who texted me 15 minutes before the show, like, I didn't remember that the Thomas Crown Affair in 1999 is a thriller set in New York, an action thriller set in New York City.
1:12:01 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, they robbed the Met twice. Um, I have just like a very perverse obsessed relationship with, thank you, I have been on Blank Check to talk about the Thomas Crown Affair.
1:12:13 Sean Fennessey? That's right.
1:12:14 Amanda Dobbins? 1999.
1:12:15 Sean Fennessey? What a day for McTiernan.
1:12:16 Amanda Dobbins? I, well.
1:12:17 Sean Fennessey? When you think New York, you think John McTiernan. It's true. Was Predator available too tonight?
1:12:22 Amanda Dobbins? They stole a painting and then he put it right back, you know? And also then they danced really sexy at Chirriani's. So it's all, and had sex on a marble staircase that is very realistic in terms of New York City homes.
1:12:38 Sean Fennessey? My father is here.
1:12:39 Amanda Dobbins? So my in-laws are here. Hi, Rich and Jane. Um, I love this movie very deeply. It is silly and very funny and the best bond that Pierce Brosnan ever did. And there we go. Yeah. 1999, that's right, yeah. Wait, wait, well, yeah, well, it's okay. You guys know that it's the remake.
1:13:03 Sean Fennessey? Griffin, you're up again. What do you, what do you, what do you got? What are you thinking? How you feeling?
1:13:12 Speaker 07 Looking out, look, there's something.
1:13:13 Sean Fennessey? Wait, I need to interrupt you for a second. Griffin really wants to win.
1:13:16 Speaker 07 Very badly.
1:13:17 Sean Fennessey? The last time we did this, he won. Did you win both times?
1:13:20 Speaker 07 I can't, who won the president? We don't know if that was ever, much like our own elections, it's unclear.
1:13:25 Sean Fennessey? You mean 2020?
1:13:27 Speaker 07 Whether anyone was fairly.
1:13:29 Sean Fennessey? Don't worry, I know, don't worry.
1:13:30 Speaker 07 I won the lawyer one, which I went turbo mode, grinding on.
1:13:35 Sean Fennessey? Watched roughly 100 lawyer movies in four days before the draft.
1:13:38 Amanda Dobbins? That was really psychotic, yeah.
1:13:40 Speaker 07 I had zero fun during that draft. I felt great once I won, but it felt like running a marathon.
1:13:46 Sean Fennessey? How are you feeling right now?
1:13:47 Speaker 07 I'm feeling okay. I feel like I'm in a pretty good position and the question is, do I go sicko mode and draft from my heart or do I play to the crowd? And there's a movie that's still available and the three of you, I feel confident would never, ever take it. This fucking guy might.
1:14:03 Amanda Dobbins? Who me?
1:14:04 Speaker 07 And there's a part of me that just doesn't.
1:14:07 Amanda Dobbins? English Dave? God.
1:14:09 Sean Fennessey? Govna.
1:14:12 Speaker 07 I don't want to run the risk of letting him steal it from me, even though I don't know if he could work it in his categories, but I'm gonna fucking do it. In drama, I'm gonna draft Clint Eastwood's masterpiece, Sully.
1:14:22 Speaker 11 Woo! Yeah.
1:14:24 Amanda Dobbins? Wow.
1:14:25 Speaker 11 I thought about it.
1:14:28 Speaker 11 One of the great New York movies. Yeah. I don't... Did it win an Oscar for like, sound editing or something? No, so I was... I'm not sure I could fit it in.
1:14:37 Speaker 07 No, I don't think so.
1:14:38 Speaker 11 You're getting all your blank check in our big picture right now.
1:14:40 Speaker 07 A little bit. It's a Little Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. A blockbuster was a big ass hit. Made 120 million domestic and negative $15 worldwide.
1:14:54 Speaker 07 But I'm drafting it in drama.
1:14:59 Speaker 07 Disrespectful, disrespectful.
1:15:04 Speaker 12 The movies that have been handwritten would win the draft if they were put together.
1:15:09 Speaker 11 Yeah.
1:15:11 Speaker 07 You could like, make a subway map of only the handwritten movies and it would fulfill the spirit of the city. There's a lot in Sully that I think captures New York. It's obviously a hugely important New York moment in our history.
1:15:25 Speaker 11 It's about a guy refusing to go to New Jersey.
1:15:27 Speaker 07 Well, this is the other thing.
1:15:28 Speaker 11 He won't fucking land at Teterboro, thank you. You can go to Teterboro, he's like, the Hudson.
1:15:35 Speaker 07 He eyeballed it, he's not making it. He eyeballed it. He didn't crash, it was a forced water landing.
1:15:43 Speaker 11 We all have to admit that. You have no issue with the completely imagined FAA hearing that comprises the final 25 minutes of the movie?
1:15:50 Speaker 07 That is such an insane misread of the movie. The whole point is that Sully is a man who just does his job. He just does the work. Every day, he takes off and he lands fucking planes. That's all he cares about.
1:16:03 Speaker 11 Definitely.
1:16:03 Speaker 07 He's not a hero, he doesn't want attention. The people in the board are just doing their jobs just like him. It's due diligence. They're not actually accusing him of anything. They have to ask the questions. And by the end of the movie, they reveal that.
1:16:18 Speaker 11 Yes.
1:16:19 Speaker 07 In the final hearing, after he is found to be in the right, Anna Gunn says, "By the way, I want to tell you, listen to that tape, that was extraordinary." And they all have tears in their eyes. And it's not because they changed the parts. It's because they couldn't show that up until that point. That was unprofessional, they're like him. And it's the fucking... You could almost draft this in Thriller.
1:16:39 Speaker 11 This is so true.
1:16:42 Sean Fennessey? It's, it's going to be okay.
1:16:44 Speaker 07 Sully?
1:16:45 Sean Fennessey? You did get the movie, by the way.
1:16:47 Speaker 11 You do imagine Eastwood, he's just like lying still and they're like, you know, he landed the plane. He's like, I know. And they're like, I guess there was some hearing. And he's like, hearing?
1:16:55 Speaker 11 Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga.
1:16:57 Sean Fennessey? They railroaded the guy? There was administration and regulation, you say?
1:17:02 Speaker 11 I'll be there tomorrow.
1:17:04 Speaker 07 I mean, one of, one of the big things about Sully is that he can't fucking go back home. He can't get on that Metro North and go back to his wife. He's stuck in a hotel in New York. The movie spans the five days of him just being stuck in our city.
1:17:17 Sean Fennessey? We have, we have more picks to make.
1:17:18 Speaker 07 But the highlight of the film
1:17:22 Speaker 07 is the rescue sequence itself, where you cut to Turtle.
1:17:25 Sean Fennessey? All the boat.
1:17:26 Speaker 07 You cut to the dispatcher and you watch how quickly our city comes together and gets shit done.
1:17:32 Speaker 11 So true.
1:17:33 Speaker 07 Sully, Sully, Sully, Sully.
1:17:38 Sean Fennessey? USA.
1:17:43 Speaker 07 Great decision, great decision.
1:17:44 Sean Fennessey? That was a great decision. How many people over here have really seen Sully, honestly? Nine guys, you know?
1:17:50 Speaker 07 The Letterboxd logs tonight are going, boo.
1:17:57 Sean Fennessey? How do I follow that up?
1:17:58 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:17:59 Sean Fennessey? What am I supposed to do with that?
1:17:59 Speaker 07 Just take another Scorsese movie and keep it moving.
1:18:03 Sean Fennessey? Mean Streets. Honestly, I will. I'll take Wolf of Wall Street Comedy.
1:18:06 Speaker 07 Right, right.
1:18:09 Speaker 11 That's fine.
1:18:11 Speaker 11 That's your kind of New Yorker.
1:18:13 Sean Fennessey? You know, it's, uh, I don't know how to even follow what you just did there. Should I, should I just explain every scene of The Wolf of Wall Street from start to finish?
1:18:21 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:18:21 Speaker 11 So McConaughey's talking about jerking off, right?
1:18:26 Speaker 07 Explain the scenes, but make it clear that you approve of what's happening within them.
1:18:30 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, this is obviously a tacit knowledge with the only way to go through life is to be greedy, use drugs, cheat on your wife, and win America, right? That's the point of the movie.
1:18:38 Speaker 11 That's the point of the movie, yeah.
1:18:40 Sean Fennessey? We just did this on 25 for 25, and we talked about what an amazing masterpiece this is, especially made by a guy in his 70s. Jesus Christ.
1:18:47 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:18:47 Sean Fennessey? How did he do that? I can barely get out of bed at 10 a.m. in New York City. I'm like, the time change.
1:18:52 Amanda Dobbins? Clint Eastwood made Sully, you know, at the age of 95.
1:18:55 Sean Fennessey? That's true. And he was awake every day on set. He woke up, and he went to set. Wolf of Wall Street, hilarious. So funny, on purpose and by accident. And I think that's actually good when that happens. You know? You know what I'm saying?
1:19:08 Speaker 11 Yeah, of course.
1:19:09 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
1:19:09 Sean Fennessey? Like DH with a V. It was really funny that you picked that. On purpose.
1:19:14 Amanda Dobbins? This was eligible in Subway, too. A pivotal scene.
1:19:17 Sean Fennessey? It is.
1:19:17 Speaker 11 Oh, that's right.
1:19:18 Sean Fennessey? Well, it's a wordless scene.
1:19:20 Amanda Dobbins? But it's pivotal to our understanding.
1:19:22 Sean Fennessey? Explain it.
1:19:23 Amanda Dobbins? So Kyle Chandler, the FBI agent who investigates, and spoiler alert, for The Wolf of Wall Street, which was released over 10 years ago, eventually takes down Jordan Belfort, the protagonist. They have a conversation on a boat about living the high life versus going about doing your job and then taking the subway home. And at the very end, after he has arrested Jordan Belfort, he is shown just sitting on the subway.
1:19:51 Speaker 11 Yeah.
1:19:51 Amanda Dobbins? By himself, looking around, being like, well, I did it, but also, is this what I did?
1:19:56 Sean Fennessey? But the honest integrity of taking the subway.
1:20:00 Amanda Dobbins? That qualifies as pivotal? Yes? Oh, my God.
1:20:06 Sean Fennessey? All right. Respect.
1:20:12 Amanda Dobbins? Elizabeth, that was good.
1:20:16 Amanda Dobbins? Elizabeth, feel it, everyone.
1:20:17 Sean Fennessey? For those of you listening at home, there was not a placard for The Wolf of Wall Street. There is more handwritten placards on the board now than there are printed out ones. Okay.
1:20:26 Amanda Dobbins? It's a good pick.
1:20:27 Sean Fennessey? Hey, you don't have to be rude about it.
1:20:29 Amanda Dobbins? I like the film. We did a whole podcast about it. Who's next? Oh, I am already? Okay.
1:20:35 Sean Fennessey? Wait, no.
1:20:36 Amanda Dobbins? No.
1:20:36 Sean Fennessey? David's up.
1:20:37 Speaker 11 Yeah. My final two.
1:20:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:20:39 Speaker 11 This is the end for me.
1:20:43 Speaker 11 It'll be okay.
1:20:45 Sean Fennessey? Back to England?
1:20:46 Speaker 11 In action, thriller, horror, I want American Psycho.
1:20:55 Speaker 11 A few options there. This just feels like the New York-iest. And I guess since it can't be taken, it was between that and John Wick, which I love, but I'm taking American Psycho is more of like, you know, a movie about New York. Yes, please.
1:21:11 Sean Fennessey? So.
1:21:11 Speaker 11 Is John Wick sort of a fake New York? I mean, it took.
1:21:13 Sean Fennessey? But it is New York, right?
1:21:14 Speaker 07 It is. A ton of real locations.
1:21:16 Sean Fennessey? It is New York. And I don't feel like it has that reputation. And I wanted to talk with you guys about that because John Wick lives on Long Island. Right?
1:21:23 Speaker 11 Yes.
1:21:23 Sean Fennessey? He kills freaking dog.
1:21:24 Speaker 11 Yes.
1:21:25 Sean Fennessey? And then he's like, I'm John Wick. I have to Wick you.
1:21:27 Speaker 11 He does do that.
1:21:28 Sean Fennessey? And then he goes to New York City.
1:21:29 Speaker 11 Yes.
1:21:30 Sean Fennessey? He goes to the Continental, which of course does not exist, but is shot in New York.
1:21:32 Speaker 11 Yeah, it's just.
1:21:33 Sean Fennessey? The exterior.
1:21:34 Speaker 11 Wall Street and downtown.
1:21:35 Amanda Dobbins? But they're like, this is New York and not like weird John Wick world.
1:21:38 Speaker 11 It is New York. John Wick is set in all the cities it's set in always, but it's sort of a weird fake New York.
1:21:43 Amanda Dobbins? Where's that mountain town? The mountain town in John Wick four, it looked lovely.
1:21:47 Speaker 11 That was Ballerina, just.
1:21:49 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, Ballerina, sorry. Thank you.
1:21:50 Speaker 11 It was from the world of John Wick.
1:21:51 Amanda Dobbins? I think you mean John Wick's Ballerina.
1:21:53 Speaker 11 Yeah, right.
1:21:55 Speaker 07 And that John Wick two has the incredible subway.
1:21:57 Speaker 11 But that's not shot on the subway.
1:22:00 Speaker 07 Sure.
1:22:00 Speaker 11 Sorry.
1:22:01 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:22:01 Speaker 11 But it wasn't. It was shot in like either Toronto or on the path or something.
1:22:05 Speaker 07 The Oculus, but then the actual train itself is fake. I think John Wick shoots real New York locations in such a stylized way that even for me, a native New Yorker, I watch them and I go like, oh, that is that building.
1:22:15 Speaker 11 Right.
1:22:16 Speaker 07 Because it feels like it's Schumacher Gotham or something.
1:22:18 Sean Fennessey? Right.
1:22:19 Speaker 11 Yeah. But I picked American Psycho, which is pretty unimpeachable. It's a great pick by me and we're not talking about it. But it's a great New York frame of mind movie.
1:22:27 Sean Fennessey? What is it that you relate to with American Psycho?
1:22:29 Speaker 11 I realize I'm going.
1:22:30 Speaker 07 It's the grindset mindset of it, right?
1:22:33 Speaker 11 I've gone full vintage here, right? Like, you know, 90s, 70s with Tom, one, two, three. And this is like the great 80s New York movie, right? Or if, you know, there's the raging bull or the working class in New York.
1:22:46 Sean Fennessey? Forget about raging bull. We're talking about American Psycho.
1:22:49 Speaker 11 Sorry. And it's just, it's a great portrayal of what the city sort of turned into, right? And through the eyes of a really normal guy who has a normal job and a normal way of doing business, normal fridge.
1:23:04 Speaker 11 With normal heads in it.
1:23:07 Speaker 11 It's a great movie. I just got my Blu-ray. I just rewatched it.
1:23:11 Speaker 07 In the Luca remake, is fucking Patrick Bateman gonna have a podcast network? That's who that guy is now, right?
1:23:18 Speaker 11 Right.
1:23:19 Speaker 07 Selling like fucking brain powder?
1:23:20 Speaker 12 You're staring right at Sean, as you say.
1:23:23 Speaker 07 Sean?
1:23:25 Speaker 11 American Psycho. You guys like that movie?
1:23:27 Sean Fennessey? I do.
1:23:28 Speaker 11 Yeah, pretty good. Great videotapes movie.
1:23:30 Speaker 07 I have never heard you talk about that film. I think it's a movie I assumed you didn't like as in over 10 years. It's like never come up in conversation.
1:23:38 Speaker 11 Okay, well.
1:23:39 Speaker 07 I know, I'm just saying.
1:23:40 Speaker 11 You got another pick?
1:23:43 Speaker 11 Oscar winner is my final category. I'm taking.
1:23:47 Sean Fennessey? A lot on the board here.
1:23:48 Speaker 11 I know. And it's like, do I go boring? Or do I like go personal? I'm not sure. But I do think the answer is Godfather Part Two. Because I do think that's like
1:24:00 Speaker 11 the most beautiful. You were saying it during the trivia round, like just the shot of the boy sitting in Ellis Island. Like, it is like the most important part of the New York picture. And it's crazy. There's other movies about that experience like that are that are great, but like that Coppola for Part Two is like, this is what this is about.
1:24:18 Speaker 12 You think that the polite applause is because everybody here knows this is a Lake Tahoe movie?
1:24:24 Speaker 11 It does have a lot of great Tahoe, but it's also got fucking De Niro wasting olive oil guys on Mulberry Street, okay? It's got a lot of great New Yorks that the rooftop scene, you know, after he, yeah, that's, that's, that's beautiful.
1:24:36 Sean Fennessey? It's a great pick for your last pick.
1:24:39 Speaker 11 Thank you.
1:24:41 Speaker 11 Now I'm just gonna rag on whatever you guys pick.
1:24:45 Speaker 11 I wanna say also, no white cards for me.
1:24:50 Speaker 11 Look at that.
1:24:52 Sean Fennessey? Elizabeth, did you rig this for David? Okay, I have one more pick. I haven't picked Subway movie. I'm gonna pick Dress to Kill.
1:25:01 Sean Fennessey? So, very famous scene in Brian Palm's "Dressed to Kill", where the killer approaches Nancy Allen and is trying to take care of her. And while she's riding the subway, that is just absolutely harrowing. And I feel like people maybe don't think of this as much of a New York movie. But also, a lot of my picks got taken already. So I'm gonna take it here at this exact moment.
1:25:20 Speaker 11 It's a good pick. Great pick.
1:25:22 Amanda Dobbins? Great job.
1:25:22 Speaker 11 Can I shout out?
1:25:23 Speaker 07 I was watching this last night. It's great.
1:25:25 Speaker 11 Can I shout out a couple of good subway movies? I was trying to think. Or should we wait till the end?
1:25:30 Sean Fennessey? Assuming you're not gonna take one of them.
1:25:31 Speaker 11 Well, Subway's done. You filled it up.
1:25:33 Amanda Dobbins? No, I have Oscar winner, so...
1:25:35 Sean Fennessey? I know, but he might say a Subway movie.
1:25:37 Speaker 11 Oh, okay, so I'll be quiet. I'll be quiet.
1:25:39 Sean Fennessey? I can think of one off the top of my head.
1:25:40 Speaker 11 It's just an important category to me.
1:25:41 Speaker 07 Yeah. So you have Oscar left?
1:25:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but it's Griffin's pick.
1:25:44 Speaker 07 Oh, it's Griffin's pick. Sorry. Uh, I mean, there are a lot of great historic New York comedies I could pick. Little Nicky.
1:25:54 Speaker 07 Ants.
1:25:57 Speaker 07 These are those kind of chalk picks, as if I wanted to convince this audience of my erudite taste.
1:26:02 Speaker 11 Right.
1:26:04 Speaker 07 And CR, you picked "All That Jazz". I'm wearing an "All That Jazz" t-shirt.
1:26:07 Amanda Dobbins? I feel bad.
1:26:08 Speaker 07 It is a great movie about how hard it is to make it. And especially make it and show business and the idea of the great white way and all that sort of stuff. With that off the board, there's only one pick I feel like I can make, which is the only movie that captures that subject in a bleaker and more psychologically intense way. And that, of course, is The Muppets' "Take Manhattan".
1:26:31 Amanda Dobbins? Good one.
1:26:37 Speaker 07 A movie in which a bunch of small-town, you know, Big Fish Little Pond Muppets come to New York and get their fucking asses kicked up and down Main Street. They tap out. They go. They leave. They disperse. And then Kermit finds financing. And the Muppets have to come back together and put on a show.
1:27:03 Speaker 11 They never did that before on The Muppets, anything like that.
1:27:06 Speaker 07 It's an origin story!
1:27:07 Speaker 11 Oh, okay, okay.
1:27:09 Speaker 07 So they technically hadn't done it before, if you're looking at the timeline. It's a slippery cannon.
1:27:16 Speaker 11 It's kind of the Andor of... Oh, surprise, surprise. That one had to get written down.
1:27:23 Speaker 07 Got Manhattan in the title. Big inspiration for me in my life. Has definitely affected my daily decision-making process. Who is your one-to-one Muppet comp? Who do you think? Well, now I want to know who you think. Fozzie. Fozzie is my one, but I do feel like there's an id ego, super ego of Fozzie Gonzo Scooter. Yeah. But gun to my head, Fozzie's the pick. Yeah, yeah.
1:27:53 Speaker 12 I got stressed out when you said that.
1:27:56 Speaker 07 You have a Muppet comp, CR? Uh. Are you familiar with the Muppets?
1:28:00 Amanda Dobbins? Animals.
1:28:00 Speaker 07 Animals.
1:28:01 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:28:01 Speaker 07 That's your animal. Yeah. You could also.
1:28:03 Amanda Dobbins? That's correct.
1:28:04 Speaker 07 Yeah, you could be Crazy Harry, I think, as well. Bomb thrower. Yeah, you're Sam Eagle. Yeah.
1:28:13 Speaker 07 There have to be rules. Important function, important function, the dynamic. I'm also an icon of this country. A true patriot.
1:28:22 Speaker 12 I always liked the Swedish chef, right? Yeah.
1:28:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:28:25 Speaker 07 Because you're always cooking.
1:28:28 Amanda Dobbins? Just naming Muppets. Okay, I have Oscar winner left.
1:28:32 Speaker 07 We know who you are.
1:28:32 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:28:42 Speaker 07 Get on that.
1:28:44 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, so I have Oscar winner, and I'm torn between being cute and trying. Trying to win is not really, like, I love all of the picks, but.
1:28:58 Speaker 07 The eternal struggle.
1:28:59 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:28:59 Speaker 07 Cute or winning?
1:29:00 Amanda Dobbins? Cute or winning. I think that I'm going to do a middle ground, and in, I can't believe that this is the sixth round, I will be taking Michael Clayton, an Oscar winner.
1:29:16 Speaker 11 Tilda. Tilda's the lone Oscar for that movie, right?
1:29:19 Amanda Dobbins? Tilda, yes. Tilda's win.
1:29:22 Sean Fennessey? One of the great Milwaukee movies.
1:29:25 Speaker 12 One of the great movies about agricultural crime.
1:29:28 Amanda Dobbins? Some unfortunate things do happen in a parking lot, though off-screen. Yeah, this is a movie about someone as handsome as George Clooney just being beaten down by this city and...
1:29:42 Sean Fennessey? By Brian Koppelman at the poker table.
1:29:43 Amanda Dobbins? And Brian Koppelman and Sidney Pollack just telling you what's what. And also that the suburbs are a scary place full of rich people who yell at you. Yeah.
1:30:00 Amanda Dobbins? It's one of the great movies. It's also on our 25 for 25 list. It's on many a yard sign. Do they have that in New York? Do you guys have the "in this house, we believe that Michael Clayton is underrepresented"? You know, whatever. That's a thing that we have in Los Angeles. We'll bring it to you.
1:30:17 Amanda Dobbins? Look it up on the internet.
1:30:18 Speaker 12 Yeah, those will swing the tide.
1:30:22 Speaker 12 We're gonna get this country back on track.
1:30:26 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, Michael Clayton.
1:30:28 Sean Fennessey? Well...
1:30:29 Speaker 12 I'm so excited I get to do this with the last pick. It's Saturday night. I hope you guys all have an amazing night out in New York City. Meet me in the Meatpacking District. We're going cruising!
1:30:43 Speaker 12 Let me guess.
1:30:47 Speaker 12 This is a great movie about losing yourself to your work, which I think is a common experience in New York City.
1:30:56 Sean Fennessey? Tell us about your research when you did the rewatchables for this film. What did you do?
1:31:01 Speaker 12 I danced. I danced a lot. No, this is William Friedkin's movie with Al Pacino about an undercover cop who goes into the gay underground dance club scene in the Meatpacking District in the 70s to find a serial killer. And he does. Spoiler. It's a great film. It's been recently-ish, not in the last couple of years, right? Redone on DVD. I highly recommend that.
1:31:26 Speaker 12 I adore this movie.
1:31:28 Speaker 07 When you started your pick by saying it's Saturday night, I thought you were drafting Jason Reitman's Saturday Night.
1:31:34 Sean Fennessey? Jason Reitman's New York masterpiece.
1:31:37 Speaker 07 It's about getting lost in your work.
1:31:40 Sean Fennessey? The movie was shot in Vancouver, right?
1:31:42 Speaker 12 Saturday night?
1:31:43 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:31:43 Speaker 11 Yeah.
1:31:44 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:31:44 Speaker 12 I was actually gonna say it would be fun to have clearly not shot in New York, New York movies.
1:31:49 Speaker 11 Yeah.
1:31:50 Speaker 12 Because Escape from New York is shot in St. Louis.
1:31:52 Sean Fennessey? I mean, that's a good, that's an entree to our honorable mentions conversation, which could be quite long, but we'll try to keep it brief. But I, is Eyes Wide Shut a New York movie?
1:31:59 Speaker 11 100%.
1:31:59 Speaker 12 I thought about it very soon.
1:32:00 Speaker 11 And I thought about picking it, and I'm almost surprised it didn't go.
1:32:04 Sean Fennessey? Because it is an amazing New York movie that is also shot in London.
1:32:08 Speaker 11 But the snow globe haunted bizarro New York is what's fun about it. I don't know.
1:32:14 Amanda Dobbins? I think it counts. Though I, I mean, you know, we were talking about this beforehand. A lot of, so far, our rules have been that it must be specified as New York, which in this case it is for it to count. But there are many like screwball comedies from the 30s and 40s that are basically New York, but they never say New York. And so, you know, Bringing Up Baby, it's like, obviously he works at the Natural History Museum, but it's, it's whatever. So I think Eyes Wide Shut, yes. Bringing Up Baby and all the Batman movies, no.
1:32:48 Speaker 12 Escape from New York, though?
1:32:49 Sean Fennessey? I think Escape from New York, for sure.
1:32:51 Speaker 11 And the title.
1:32:52 Speaker 07 Also, Ghostbusters shot, I think, three days in New York. The first one, it's one of those incredible movies where they just got the right shots and recreated everything else in a way where you buy it, even though Ghostbusters 2 was actually filmed in the streets of New York more and feels a little more artificial.
1:33:10 Sean Fennessey? Okay, honorable mentions.
1:33:11 Speaker 07 What did I just do, like, three or four?
1:33:13 Sean Fennessey? Please.
1:33:15 Speaker 12 Um, Cloverfield.
1:33:19 Sean Fennessey? Add it on my list.
1:33:20 Speaker 07 Add it on my list.
1:33:20 Speaker 12 I just like, love as a New York movie. I'll also throw out-
1:33:23 Sean Fennessey? It's a really good movie about going to parties at 26.
1:33:27 Speaker 12 Yes.
1:33:28 Speaker 11 Good subway, good subway stuff, too.
1:33:30 Sean Fennessey? Good subway.
1:33:30 Speaker 07 It also cheats more than Warriors, but those were the two I was debating for that slot, because it's a similar how do you make your way across New York movie, that it is a city you can conquer in one crazy night.
1:33:40 Speaker 12 My subway backup pick was Inside Blue and Davis.
1:33:44 Speaker 11 Yep.
1:33:45 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, good one.
1:33:46 Speaker 11 Also a good subway scene.
1:33:48 Speaker 12 And, uh, nobody picked Enora?
1:33:51 Sean Fennessey? Yes, my niece who is here texted me during the show, which I received whilst looking at my phone, "You have to take Enora."
1:33:59 Sean Fennessey? To her, I would just like to say I'm sorry.
1:34:02 Speaker 12 And just as a sentimental pick, even though you outlawed Long Island, any of Hal Hartley's Long Island trilogy would have been, I think, a good pick for comedy.
1:34:12 Speaker 12 Wow, silence to that.
1:34:14 Sean Fennessey? Good, good call. Nobody took West Side Story.
1:34:17 Amanda Dobbins? I, I almost did, and then I did Michael Clayton at the end, but I was gonna, I was gonna snap and everything. 1961, not The Spielberg, though The Spielberg's good, too.
1:34:26 Speaker 11 I thought about it for Oscar winner at the end there. I thought about Rosemary's Baby, iconic New York movie.
1:34:33 Sean Fennessey? Absolutely.
1:34:34 Speaker 11 I thought about, I cannot believe The Devil Wears Prada was not picked.
1:34:39 Amanda Dobbins? I know, and thank you all for giving me that space, but I feel like I've, I've done it in other drafts. You know, we had a trivia question. It was my backup for Blockbuster. But listen, like, here are other things I didn't draft. West Side Story, Moonstruck?
1:34:54 Speaker 11 That was, that was an obvious one.
1:34:56 Amanda Dobbins? Fatal Attraction, which I almost did in Thriller, and also Unfaithful, speaking of Adrian Lyne movies, about going to the suburbs and then needing to come back to get it on. Let's see.
1:35:07 Sean Fennessey? Relate to that film?
1:35:09 Amanda Dobbins? Cruel Intentions?
1:35:10 Sean Fennessey? Sure.
1:35:11 Amanda Dobbins? I don't live in the suburbs.
1:35:12 Sean Fennessey? Is Cruel Intentions New York?
1:35:14 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:35:15 Speaker 11 Upper East Side, you know, private school.
1:35:18 Amanda Dobbins? No one, no one took Malcolm X. I mean, we have Spike Lee represented, but that's pretty intense. The Apartment, like the most winningest, Best Picture. We talked about Age of Innocence in Trivia, but not in this draft, which is sort of disrespectful. And...
1:35:36 Speaker 11 Great Chelsea movie.
1:35:37 Amanda Dobbins? And Inside Man.
1:35:38 Speaker 11 Yeah.
1:35:39 Amanda Dobbins? Which was on the backup for, for Thriller, for sure.
1:35:42 Sean Fennessey? What about Ghost?
1:35:43 Amanda Dobbins? I had it on my subway, yeah.
1:35:45 Speaker 12 I thought that's where you were going in your subway pick, when you say the inciting scene happened.
1:35:50 Sean Fennessey? Get off my train. That guy's name Vincent Chevelli?
1:35:54 Speaker 11 Yeah, Vincent Chevelli.
1:35:55 Sean Fennessey? That guy is so New York.
1:35:56 Speaker 07 Uh, I feel like it maybe would have won me the draft, but my other option in comedy that was seriously considered was Coming to America, which I'm surprised no one talked about.
1:36:04 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:36:04 Amanda Dobbins? That would have been a good one.
1:36:05 Sean Fennessey? I kind of blinked with Wolf of Wall Street. I was gonna go Coming to America and then I just got beaten down.
1:36:09 Speaker 11 You got Marty Blindness.
1:36:11 Speaker 07 I thought Shaft, an Oscar winner, would be a particularly cool move to take it there, uh, cause it is one of the coolest Oscar wins ever. Um, also, I ruled against it because it was too cute. I adore The Wiz, which for me is one of the movies that best captures the feeling of New York, even though it technically takes place in Oz.
1:36:30 Speaker 11 It's a 10 percenter. I thought, yeah, I've pitched a category that was people who are walking here movie. And Shaft is a good one for that. Obviously Midnight Cowboy is a good one for that. That's an Oscar winner right there. Uh, I had some other obvious ones. I feel like Black Swan?
1:36:45 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:36:45 Speaker 11 People don't talk about it anymore, but that's a great New York movie.
1:36:48 Speaker 07 You gotta bring Black Swan back.
1:36:49 Speaker 11 This city's gonna kill me.
1:36:50 Amanda Dobbins? Do we?
1:36:50 Speaker 07 Yeah.
1:36:51 Sean Fennessey? Let's do it like a-
1:36:51 Speaker 07 Let's do it like a minute by minute pot of swan pot.
1:36:55 Speaker 11 Absolutely.
1:36:55 Sean Fennessey? Let's start it right now. Let's run it.
1:36:57 Speaker 07 Uh, here's one I was really thinking over. Citizen Kane is a New York movie, right?
1:37:02 Speaker 11 It's got a lot of New York.
1:37:03 Sean Fennessey? It's set in New York, but you don't see really any of New York.
1:37:06 Speaker 07 But it's like 60%, you know, he woos a showgirl. He runs a New York paper. Like, he makes his fortune here. Yeah.
1:37:13 Speaker 11 Um, Catch Me If You Can, a New York movie? I mean, it's got a lot of New York, but not, not all over. Home Alone 2, he is, and you guys may not know this, Lost in New York?
1:37:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:37:25 Speaker 11 Even though it's easy to get around.
1:37:27 Sean Fennessey? Precedent's in that movie.
1:37:28 Speaker 07 One of his top five films. One of his top five best film performances.
1:37:32 Speaker 11 Uh, Breakfast at Tiffany's is a fairly iconic New York movie.
1:37:35 Speaker 07 With great politics. Great politics in that movie, yeah.
1:37:40 Speaker 11 This is on here that I feel.
1:37:41 Sean Fennessey? What about The Devil's Advocate?
1:37:43 Amanda Dobbins? I can't believe you didn't do it.
1:37:46 Sean Fennessey? Upon reflection.
1:37:47 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:37:48 Sean Fennessey? I've made a mistake.
1:37:49 Speaker 11 Well, like Devil's Advocate, I love Devil's Advocate, but that's kind of bad Rosemary's Baby, right? Cause that's also about like kind of going insane in your apartment building.
1:37:56 Sean Fennessey? I wouldn't use the word bad when I talked about The Devil's Advocate.
1:37:59 Speaker 11 Because you're afraid that he's gonna come after you, John Milton?
1:38:02 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Look, but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste.
1:38:10 Sean Fennessey? Taste!
1:38:12 Speaker 11 But don't swallow. Wait, one Efron thing, I know you wanted to say. Sleepless in Seattle is barely set in New York, and yet it is very much a New York movie, right? Because it has iconic New York stuff.
1:38:24 Amanda Dobbins? Because they are going to New York.
1:38:26 Speaker 11 And the whole last act is New York.
1:38:27 Amanda Dobbins? There are two scenes, both like they are at dinner with the Empire, like with Bill Pullman, the Empire State Building behind it. And then, so I do think it's eligible.
1:38:34 Speaker 07 Doesn't she work in Baltimore in the movie?
1:38:36 Speaker 11 Baltimore.
1:38:36 Amanda Dobbins? She does. And this was a, this was a point of discussion in the Chicago draft, where everyone tried to tell me that she actually worked in Chicago in the newspaper. But no, it was Baltimore.
1:38:46 Speaker 11 He's in Chicago at the start of the movie. He goes to Seattle. She's in Baltimore.
1:38:50 Amanda Dobbins? He's in Chicago?
1:38:51 Speaker 11 At the start of the movie. He has to leave. He's got, his wife died. He's gonna buy a houseboat!
1:38:57 Amanda Dobbins? I, I.
1:38:58 Speaker 11 I did the, I did the commentary on the 4K release of that movie.
1:39:02 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, all right. Okay, you would know. Okay.
1:39:04 Speaker 11 Confirmed.
1:39:05 Amanda Dobbins? So I feel, it's, but I would say Seattle number one, New York number two, Baltimore three, Chicago four, as far as that movie's allegiances go.
1:39:15 Speaker 07 It's a joint custody situation.
1:39:17 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:39:17 Speaker 07 Yeah. In terms of which city claims it. Yeah.
1:39:19 Speaker 11 But just, just to bring up North.
1:39:20 Amanda Dobbins? I was, like, it happened one night as another one where they're trying to get to New York.
1:39:24 Speaker 11 Yeah. Right.
1:39:24 Amanda Dobbins? But they, like, they do eventually, so that counts, even though a lot of it's on the road.
1:39:29 Sean Fennessey? I wanted to shout out two amazing Abel Ferrara movies. One is King of New York, which is one of the best crime thrillers ever. And the other is Bad Lieutenant, which is about Harvey Keitel losing his mind because the Mets suck.
1:39:45 Sean Fennessey? It's so relatable.
1:39:47 Speaker 11 That was you watching David Peterson the other weekend?
1:39:50 Speaker 07 There was, there was a wildcard category that you, I think wisely chose to cut this morning, but I was gonna get funky there and maybe either draft Life Lessons, the Scorsese segment from New York Stories that fucking rules.
1:40:03 Sean Fennessey? Great movie.
1:40:03 Speaker 07 Or The Cruise, the Bennett Miller documentary.
1:40:06 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:40:06 Speaker 07 Which is one of the most New York-y movies.
1:40:08 Speaker 11 Mm-hmm.
1:40:09 Speaker 07 At the grade path.
1:40:10 Speaker 11 Um.
1:40:11 Speaker 07 We have to fight it.
1:40:12 Speaker 11 Carlito's Way. That's got some great train stuff.
1:40:14 Sean Fennessey? Great, great, great subway station scene in Carlito's Way. I thought you would've gone for that.
1:40:18 Speaker 07 I was thinking about it. Uh, we didn't talk about Last Days of Disco. Juliet Littman texted me while we were on stage.
1:40:24 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, we didn't say Metropolitan.
1:40:25 Speaker 07 I didn't say Metropolitan. I guess Kids is in there. It's not, not a real feel-good movie, but.
1:40:31 Sean Fennessey? Why did you not take it?
1:40:33 Speaker 12 I'm just, I couldn't figure out the right category for it, you know?
1:40:36 Sean Fennessey? Wags just texted me Sweet Smell of Success.
1:40:38 Speaker 12 Sweet Smell of Success is on my list.
1:40:39 Sean Fennessey? Don't like, let's not make the live texting during a live pod thing. I realize we're revealing that people are texting us, but that sounds like it could cost us.
1:40:46 Speaker 12 What if I just have like an earpiece and Wags is just like, now say Cruising? I know you haven't seen it, but pretend, keep pretending.
1:40:53 Sean Fennessey? That was the first five years of the big picture.
1:40:56 Speaker 11 The Avengers, not to be boring.
1:40:58 Speaker 12 Oh yeah, that's right.
1:40:59 Sean Fennessey? I was a guy who really likes The Avengers here. I was gonna start crying.
1:41:04 Speaker 11 They have the Battle of New York in that movie. I don't know if you remember.
1:41:08 Speaker 12 That's right.
1:41:08 Amanda Dobbins? Oh yeah.
1:41:09 Speaker 12 What happened?
1:41:09 Amanda Dobbins? They got like the swarm.
1:41:11 Sean Fennessey? What's up with the Chitauri?
1:41:13 Speaker 11 What's up with the Chitauri?
1:41:14 Speaker 12 I don't know. We treated them very poorly.
1:41:19 Speaker 11 Um, Aronofsky, you know, I don't like Hot Ceiling, but Requiem for a Dream is a great Coney Island movie. Pie is also a great New York movie, has great Subway stuff.
1:41:27 Speaker 12 Also about the Mets, yeah.
1:41:29 Speaker 11 Yep, yep.
1:41:30 Speaker 12 Noah.
1:41:31 Speaker 11 Noah, that was all shot in New York.
1:41:33 Speaker 12 Early New York.
1:41:34 Speaker 11 He shot the whole thing in the East River. It's crazy.
1:41:37 Speaker 12 That's the original force water landing.
1:41:41 Sean Fennessey? We've officially entered just naming movies territory.
1:41:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:41:44 Sean Fennessey? Just how I know we are at the end.
1:41:45 Speaker 12 You know, season two of Rescue Me. I could go on. Season one of Rescue Me.
1:41:50 Sean Fennessey? Everybody meet David outside. He'll be just saying the names of films for roughly four hours. You can do this all night, just like Captain America. Um, hey.
1:42:00 Amanda Dobbins? QR code.
1:42:01 Sean Fennessey? QR code. We're gonna vote now.
1:42:02 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. So you guys, you get to vote. Yeah.
1:42:05 Sean Fennessey? Pop on the screen, you'll see.
1:42:08 Amanda Dobbins? You all know what to do.
1:42:10 Sean Fennessey? While you're voting, we're gonna run through our picks. So Chris, why don't you read your picks from this draft?
1:42:15 Speaker 12 In drama, I took Cruising. In comedy, After Hours. In action horror thriller, Alfred Hitchcock's Rear Window. Oscar winner was All That Jazz. Blockbuster was DH with a V. And Subway was The French Connection.
1:42:32 Amanda Dobbins? Really funny that that was the first pick overall, given the rest of the thing.
1:42:35 Speaker 11 I fucking nailed it.
1:42:36 Amanda Dobbins? Um, in drama, I took 25th Hour. In comedy, Working Girl. In action horror thriller, The Thomas Crown Affair, 1999. In Oscar winner, Michael Clayton. In blockbuster, You've Got Mail. And in Subway, Frances Ha.
1:42:50 Sean Fennessey? Griffin.
1:42:51 Speaker 12 Uh, in drama, I paid my respects to an American hero named Captain Chesley Sullenberger.
1:43:00 Speaker 07 In comedy, I kinda snuck a psychological thriller in there called The Muppet Steak Manhattan. Action horror thriller, The Warriors, Dog Day Afternoon, an Oscar winner for Screenplay. When Harry Met Sully for Blockbuster, and in Subway, I took Spider-Man 2.
1:43:17 Sean Fennessey? In drama, I took Taxi Driver. In comedy, I took The Wolf of Wall Street. In action horror thriller, I took Uncut Gems. An Oscar winner, I took Goodfellas, perhaps you've heard of it. In Blockbuster, I took Ghostbusters. And in Subway, I took Dress to Kill.
1:43:32 Speaker 11 For me in drama, I took Do the Right Thing. Comedy, I took Royal Tenenbaums. Action horror thriller, I took American Psycho. Oscar winner, Godfather Part II, Blockbuster Men in Black. And my Subway movie was The Taking Impale on 123. I think David's gonna win.
1:43:46 Amanda Dobbins? You do?
1:43:47 Speaker 07 I think David's gonna win.
1:43:48 Sean Fennessey? David's gonna win.
1:43:48 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:43:50 Sean Fennessey? Sean, you, I don't know.
1:43:51 Amanda Dobbins? Tenenbaums do the right thing, and Men in Black is powerful.
1:43:53 Speaker 07 Dudes who weren't here will vote for Sean.
1:43:56 Sean Fennessey? Dudes who weren't here, all my underground men.
1:44:00 Speaker 11 But like, if the 155 souls that Sully saved are here, Griffin's got a big shot.
1:44:08 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. And thank God, he saved them.
1:44:10 Speaker 11 He did.
1:44:11 Sean Fennessey? Where would this draft be without that moment?
1:44:14 Amanda Dobbins? Are we, how much longer?
1:44:15 Sean Fennessey? How long do we take? We gotta wait roughly 80 minutes. Are you guys okay with that? To tabulate the scores?
1:44:19 Amanda Dobbins? Jack is saying 30 more seconds, and he's doing...
1:44:21 Sean Fennessey? 30 more? He's giving us...
1:44:22 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, he's doing baseball.
1:44:24 Sean Fennessey? So can you vamp?
1:44:24 Amanda Dobbins? How the Philly's doing? What's going on?
1:44:26 Speaker 07 They're losing.
1:44:26 Amanda Dobbins? Oh no, what happened?
1:44:28 Speaker 11 It's the top of the ninth, it's 5-3 Dodgers.
1:44:31 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:44:32 Sean Fennessey? Oh my word.
1:44:34 Amanda Dobbins? It's bad?
1:44:35 Speaker 07 5-3 in the top of the ninth.
1:44:36 Speaker 11 Oh, Honey went 0 for 4. Oh, Tony, sir.
1:44:39 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:44:39 Speaker 09 All right, I feel comfortable calling this race.
1:44:41 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, it's time?
1:44:43 Speaker 09 It's time.
1:44:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:44:45 Speaker 09 In fifth place, Christopher Ryan.
1:44:48 Speaker 07 Oh. That's fucking crazy!
1:44:52 Speaker 09 For the record, Die Hard with a Vengeance, amazing pick.
1:44:56 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:44:57 Speaker 09 Fourth place, Griffin Newman.
1:44:59 Amanda Dobbins? Oh.
1:45:00 Speaker 07 Spoke too many truths here tonight.
1:45:02 Sean Fennessey? Did. You did. You kept it too real.
1:45:04 Speaker 07 Yep.
1:45:05 Speaker 09 In third place, Sean Fennessy.
1:45:08 Amanda Dobbins? Oh wow. All right, David, you wanna hold hands with me?
1:45:10 Speaker 11 Absolutely.
1:45:11 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, here we go. Here we go.
1:45:13 Speaker 11 Here we go.
1:45:13 Amanda Dobbins? Ready? Just like Miss America.
1:45:15 Speaker 11 Wow.
1:45:16 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:45:17 Speaker 11 Oh, look at all these guys.
1:45:19 Speaker 09 In second place, Amanda Dobbins.
1:45:22 Amanda Dobbins? Oh!
1:45:23 Speaker 11 Wow!
1:45:23 Speaker 09 Which means David has won the New York City Movie Draft.
1:45:29 Sean Fennessey? High five, come on. Well done.
1:45:34 Sean Fennessey? All right. David Sims is your winner tonight. He's your winner, but go to your ballot box. Stuff it.
1:45:43 Sean Fennessey? If you're in line, stay in line. I have a great many people to thank. So first of all, thank you so much to Griffin and David. If you're not listening to Blank Check, please start doing so. One of the very best podcasts in the world.
1:45:57 Sean Fennessey? Thank you to Jack Sanders, whose voice you've heard all night. He's the producer of our show.
1:46:03 Sean Fennessey? Thank you so much to Elizabeth, Helen and Charlie from our events team who killed it.
1:46:10 Sean Fennessey? Thank you to LinkedIn Ads for supporting this episode. Thank you to Criterion for putting Borkays in your hands.
1:46:18 Sean Fennessey? Thank you to CR,
1:46:25 Sean Fennessey? who is my brother and drafted DH with a V first overall at the New York City Movie Draft.
1:46:32 Sean Fennessey? Thank you to New York City.
1:46:34 Amanda Dobbins? Thank you to all of you.
1:46:36 Sean Fennessey? Which is the best city in the world.
1:46:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. Thanks to all of you. Thanks for having us. Thanks for caring about this and listening. Thank you to my in-laws for driving from Philadelphia. And thank you, Sean, I guess.
1:46:51 Sean Fennessey? Yes, I guess. Amanda, good job. We're not making eye contact.
1:46:57 Sean Fennessey? I just want to point out later this week on the podcast, we'll be talking about the greatest actor of his generation and we'll see you then.
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