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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces and let's just say these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here.

• 0:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 0:55Hannah Berner?

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• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat, so once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising, and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer. There's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Carry a fix to wifi.

• 3:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my grizzly gigglers.

• 3:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I need to get my phone.

• 3:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my god.

• 3:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because I just, like, I have things.

• 3:56Hannah Berner?

  I have, oh, you do?

• 3:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I have notes and stuff.

• 3:58Hannah Berner?

  I was, I was in the car, um, on the way to the Teen Vogue party. Sorry, I just love saying that.

• 4:04Paige DeSorbo?

  What is that?

• 4:05Hannah Berner?

  Selena Gomez is like, "Oh, I got a little bloom of hair on the way to the Teen Vogue party."

• 4:11Hannah Berner?

  We messed up today.

• 4:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we messed up today. First of all...

• 4:13Hannah Berner?

  This is what we get.

• 4:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, first of all, I'm wearing a YSL windbreaker.

• 4:17Hannah Berner?

  First of all, everywhere you walk today, you got a compliment. Also, her hair is tucked in like Mary-Kate Ashley Olsen. She's obsessed with herself. But you also don't feel like talking. You just want people to look at you today.

• 4:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I wish, I like, I feel like my voice is different. I'm like, like, it's, it's smaller.

• 4:34Hannah Berner?

  It is crazy not to defend you and your obsession with outfits, but the right outfit really makes you feel like...

• 4:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's not good.

• 4:41Hannah Berner?

  That girl. No, in a good way.

• 4:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, okay, thanks.

• 4:43Hannah Berner?

  The right outfit makes you, like, believe in yourself.

• 4:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but the wrong outfit.

• 4:47Hannah Berner?

  Ruin, cancel everything.

• 4:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I've, like, broken up with boyfriends. And like I just can't, I'm overstimulated and my outfit sucks and everybody knows it.

• 4:57Hannah Berner?

  You walk in and I'm like, everyone's whispering about my outfit. That's actually happened to me though.

• 5:03Hannah Berner?

  That's in your head, that's my reality.

• 5:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Today, me and Hannah went shopping this morning.

• 5:10Hannah Berner?

  What can I say?

• 5:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:12Hannah Berner?

  Not to get deep, but I feel like me and you have like never been more in love with each other.

• 5:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:15Hannah Berner?

  We're like obsessed with each other. We're so close, like, like on a soul sister level right now. And we've been like making time for each other, which we've never done.

• 5:25Paige DeSorbo?

  The other day you said to me, if I wanted to stop being your friend, I could have years ago.

• 5:32Hannah Berner?

  No, I was just saying that we've chose. We've chose each other. Like no one forced us to be friends. Yes. I mean, people forced us to possibly not be friends at some point.

• 5:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 5:44Hannah Berner?

  And we, we fought against that.

• 5:45Paige DeSorbo?

  We, we rose above.

• 5:47Hannah Berner?

  We rectified. I don't know if that's the right word, but yesterday you're like, let's go to dinner.

• 5:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:54Hannah Berner?

  Now, let me just say, you ordered wine.

• 5:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I was feeling crazy.

• 6:00Hannah Berner?

  Crazy. And then I got scared. I didn't want to order wine, but I saw they had a coconut drink. One thing about me, I love a coconut drink. But it came in a full coconut. And let me just tell you, it's very hard to have serious adult conversations while you're holding a full coconut.

• 6:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we were the video of like the waiter coming over at the most horrible point.

• 6:20Hannah Berner?

  Cause he sees me with a coconut. He thinks it's an easy.

• 6:23Paige DeSorbo?

  He thinks it's fun. It's light. It's like, oh.

• 6:25Hannah Berner?

  And she's like, and then when the lawsuit got involved.

• 6:31Hannah Berner?

  She goes, and then she lost all her children.

• 6:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So anyway, I'm sending a cease and desist.

• 6:36Hannah Berner?

  And also this wasn't just like any coconut. It was like a pumpkin.

• 6:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was massive.

• 6:40Hannah Berner?

  At one point, everyone was talking at the dinner and I go, I'm holding the coconut. I'm speaking. Unless you have the coconut in your hands, you can't speak.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  That was the funniest joke of the whole night.

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  I know. Actually, I didn't even talk that much last night, which I'm proud of myself because sometimes in a group dinner, I don't know how much to talk. I feel like I talked the right amount. Like I left the dinner being like, I didn't overtalk.

• 7:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Great performance.

• 7:03Hannah Berner?

  And I had some of the like top hits of the night.

• 7:06Paige DeSorbo?

  You did. You, you had the.

• 7:08Hannah Berner?

  I got like two applause breaks.

• 7:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You had laugh breaks. Me and Dez monopolized the whole conversation.

• 7:14Hannah Berner?

  No, I was obsessed with you and Dez because you're very powerful separate. But when you're together, you're like too powerful and you were like scorpions it.

• 7:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, we were also sitting across from each other. So it was like, I could only look at him truly. And so I was just like.

• 7:28Hannah Berner?

  Paige is fully interrogating Dez. I'm drinking from my coconut and it was getting kind of, it was like, like Barbara Walters.

• 7:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Were deep.

• 7:36Hannah Berner?

  Well, because Dez has so many great stories, but then it made me laugh. You were, you waited till I was married to a man for four years. Before you changed his, you like put his name in your phone.

• 7:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:47Hannah Berner?

  And that's so fucking real.

• 7:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I like just recently saved it, like not that long ago.

• 7:52Hannah Berner?

  It's true, like.

• 7:53Paige DeSorbo?

  And it, and it went to like, I had it saved, but it was like Dez, Hannah's boyfriend, summer, like I have to write all these. And then it became Dez Bishop as of late. Cause I was like, yeah, he did, he's a person and I should recognize that.

• 8:09Hannah Berner?

  Once the marriage is like four years and it was a little bit of a COVID meeting, I understand.

• 8:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't believe you're married for four years. Like, I feel like my parents will go out and like, like my mom is me. Like, so I know like when she goes, my favorite time of year is like my mom's, my dad's high school reunion. It's like, oh my God, like I can't, not my mom's high school reunion, like different, my dad, like when he has one, I'm like, we're picking out our outfit. We're like, it's just like a whole thing. But I feel like when my parents talk about like going out and like, they've always had good social lives. Like even when I was younger, they would always go out to dinner, like with someone, Saturday nights.

• 8:50Hannah Berner?

  That's so funny.

• 8:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Then like for the longest, they didn't. I feel like that was like when I was like middle school, high school and now that like.

• 8:56Hannah Berner?

  They were stressed about you. Like God forbid they left, you'd get a tongue piercing.

• 8:59Paige DeSorbo?

  But now that they're like in their sixties, I feel like they like socialize more than ever.

• 9:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 9:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And like.

• 9:04Hannah Berner?

  My parents are partying.

• 9:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And like my mom will call me and like, we talk like girls, you know, and she'll be like, and I feel like she was like hitting on your dad. So obviously like I had to go over and be like, hello. And I'm like, stand up for yourself, right? And she was like, and you know, dad, he always plays dumb. I'm like, and I hate when he does that. So like. I feel like as like you will always have a crush. It's the people that take the crush to the next level.

• 9:29Hannah Berner?

  I remember the first time I realized my dad realized another man was hitting on my mom and I was like so proud of my mom. I was like, good, make dad jealous.

• 9:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I'll never forget. One time I went out with my parents and we were in Saratoga and we went to there's like, after you go to the racetrack, there's like a couple bars that you go to that are like honestly dirty. Like it's like you're in the dirt, but everyone's dressed up and like drinking from plastic cups, but it's just like the vibe. And so there's one that's like a little more adult called Ciro's. And then there's another one that's like a little bit more rambunctious.

• 10:04Hannah Berner?

  And this is your like home court.

• 10:06Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like my home court. Like if you go to the one, it's like full high school reunion. So like I avoid it sometimes because I'm like, who knows?

• 10:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with small town stuff like this.

• 10:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I feel like I did kind of have like a small town.

• 10:18Hannah Berner?

  But it's like you knew everyone there.

• 10:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm standing and this was like right when I turned 21 and like would go out with my brother. There were times where we'd be like, let's bring mom and dad. And we would go to like a dinner or something. But anyway, so we're at this bar and this guy is walking up to me and like my parents are behind me and I'm like, oh my God. Like this guy's walking up to me. He's gonna be like hitting on me in front of my parents. Like this is like so embarrassing, but like he was hot. So I was like, well, they're gonna have to deal with that. Like, look alive dad. And this guy comes up to me and he's chatting me up and we're like chatting and he goes, and the woman behind you, who is that? And I'm like looking around and I like see my mom and I'm like, who's behind me? And he's like, the woman like wearing black. I'm like, my mom?

• 11:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And he's like, well, sorry. I didn't know it was your mom. Like, is she single? And I was like, my dad is like right here. And it scarred me so I was like disgusted. I was so, I was like, this is the worst thing ever.

• 11:17Hannah Berner?

  See, every guy's obsessed with my mom. Welcome to my life.

• 11:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:22Hannah Berner?

  Every guy I've ever dated, after they meet my mom, they go, wait, so your mom's you? Except she like has her shit together.

• 11:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, mine's the opposite. Every guy I've ever dated hates my mom. I'm like, because she calls you out and you're bullshit. My mom literally one time said to a boyfriend, were you a fat child?

• 11:41Paige DeSorbo?

  And now like you're thinking, know how the conversation is gonna go after that? Like, because it's just so awkward.

• 11:47Hannah Berner?

  But Kim is a silent killer, like that'll be the only thing she says the whole night.

• 11:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know for a fact that man thought about it three weeks later and was like, what'd she mean by that?

• 11:54Hannah Berner?

  Were you a fat child?

• 11:55Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, she meant what she asked. And he was like, I actually was. And she goes, yeah, you act like it. And I was like, oh my god, because honestly, he was like so crazy about things I ate, and she didn't like that.

• 12:07Hannah Berner?

  No, my mom, oh, I had one of those guys.

• 12:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and so she called him out without calling him out, like,

• 12:13Hannah Berner?

  Don't project your ED on her.

• 12:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't project your shit onto my daughter. She can eat whatever she wants.

• 12:18Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my god, my, my mom and I have the same thing. And I said, he wants to help me be a fitness model. And she said, you're eating pasta.

• 12:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:24Hannah Berner?

  Guys would like go to my mom's house and be like, it's so clean. And I'm like, yeah, my mom's really clean.

• 12:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 12:29Hannah Berner?

  And then she'd like, you know, she just is fully domesticated while also being successful, while also being beautiful. And they were like, so you're missing a

• 12:39Paige DeSorbo?

  So do you think this will come with age, or?

• 12:42Hannah Berner?

  Also, by the way, when we go off about our moms and parents on this podcast, I always get a call, I got a call, actually yesterday, being like, hey, um, some of the stories you told, not true.

• 12:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Embellished.

• 12:53Hannah Berner?

  She goes, first of all, I didn't dress you before you went to school.

• 12:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, when you were telling that story, I thought, I don't know if Lenore would have done that.

• 13:02Hannah Berner?

  I didn't put you in jeans to bed. She goes, that was when you were an infant. And I was like, okay, why did I think I was 17 when you did that? And she was like, yeah, so.

• 13:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I thought that was before a tennis match in college.

• 13:13Hannah Berner?

  Also, apparently my dad dropped her off to a date to break up with the guy, but then like,

• 13:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It's okay.

• 13:19Hannah Berner?

  Hung, hung out another time. Anyway, like, I gotta see some of this for my mom again.

• 13:27Hannah Berner?

  My mom is like, I'm laughing so hard, listening to you, like, almost get it right. Like, it's so close, like, your heart is there.

• 13:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:33Hannah Berner?

  Um, no, I, every now and then, too, like, parents are crazy. Like, she's like, I got a Facebook message from like my middle school boyfriend, and I'm like, I'll kill him.

• 13:42Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's so insane.

• 13:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 13:44Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so insane to think like, well, because here's the other thing, at some point, your spouse passes away.

• 13:52Hannah Berner?

  I'm very aware.

• 13:53Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, who's checking in when I first get single and I'm like seventy-five and I still look good?

• 14:01Hannah Berner?

  Well, one of the most fun things about getting married is like, first of all, you're unavailable to everyone. So you feel like around men, you're just so calm.

• 14:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:10Hannah Berner?

  Even if they don't like you, they start liking you because they know you're unavailable.

• 14:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you take away the whole like.

• 14:15Hannah Berner?

  All the time I used to stress about my crushes, which was a lot. I'm not pretending I was fully boy crazy.

• 14:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:21Hannah Berner?

  Now I spend it stressing out about other things, which has as a result has helped my career.

• 14:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that is so beautiful.

• 14:27Hannah Berner?

  So like when you're, when I was single, I deal with so much bullshit with the dating, which we all do. And now my bullshit is in other things. I'm not saying like I'm happier. It's just relationships cause me no drama anymore.

• 14:39Paige DeSorbo?

  That's nice.

• 14:40Hannah Berner?

  It's like, it's just very calm. And I hate to say it, I used to call my mom for everything and now I have Dez.

• 14:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Lenore, if you're listening to this.

• 14:49Hannah Berner?

  No, but now Lenore can have her own life. Like Lenore has a sewing club. She's in.

• 14:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 14:53Hannah Berner?

  Historical society. She's actually, she's very busy.

• 14:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what is the historical society? Like, what is she doing? She giving tours?

• 15:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my God. There's a house on Shelter Island. Shout out Historical Society. And she loves history and actually, I don't know what that historical society is.

• 15:12Paige DeSorbo?

  So you're gonna call her to us, um, next topic.

• 15:14Hannah Berner?

  There's this old house from like, I don't even want to say a date because I'll get it wrong. But like, I don't know, seventeen hundreds. And they preserved outfits that they found.

• 15:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 15:24Hannah Berner?

  And they dress up people in there. You would have loved.

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I love stuff like that.

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  The outfits like that. But like, then I was like on Halloween, like that shit's haunted. That's scary.

• 15:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's like. No, I love like a mansion tour of like, I was just gonna say J.G. Wentworth.

• 15:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Why did that pop into my head?

• 15:40Hannah Berner?

  J.G. Wentworth.

• 15:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, like, like the Vanderbilts or something like my mom used to make us do that so much when we were little and I loved it.

• 15:49Hannah Berner?

  Historical things?

• 15:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like go to like different like tours of things.

• 15:53Hannah Berner?

  I was so annoying on tours because you know, when they were like, does anyone have any questions? I was like, it's my time to shine.

• 15:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is so crazy that we're best friends because I'm just like, I rather puke.

• 16:03Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I'm such a Leo sun that like when it wasn't about me, I was like, well, someone needs to hear from me.

• 16:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Even like when we're on Zooms and it's not like we're like.

• 16:13Hannah Berner?

  We're insane on Zooms.

• 16:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's like, I don't feel bad not asking a question because it's not like I'm like interviewing for a job or something. It's like people are explaining stuff and then like they're always like, do you have any questions after? And half the time I wasn't even listening because I'm like, someone is gonna call me after to talk about this anyway.

• 16:32Hannah Berner?

  And give me the spark notes.

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  But like I would die. Sometimes I have a question, but like.

• 16:37Hannah Berner?

  I feel like we've helped each other. Like you have a calmness to you. Like I'll start a call and I'm like.

• 16:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause I'm not listening.

• 16:44Hannah Berner?

  And you're just, you're spaced out. I don't know. You're actually texting.

• 16:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Disassociated.

• 16:49Hannah Berner?

  So then, then I like to ask questions, but I like to wait for you to ask the one question, which is normally like, who are you people?

• 16:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I always feel like you're gonna answer, you're gonna ask the question that I would have. So I'm like, I don't actually have to do it because she's gonna do it.

• 17:06Hannah Berner?

  And that's why we work well together.

• 17:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I had a giggler DM me because we were talking about my, what our big three were the other day. And I just found it interesting because a lot of girls were like, wait, I have your exact.

• 17:19Hannah Berner?

  Yours?

• 17:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:21Hannah Berner?

  What did they say?

• 17:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, her name's Taylor underscore astrology. She said, giggler here, random astrology thought after you mentioned not identifying with Aquarius rising on the pod. Sometimes the rising sign is more how other people experience us than how we feel inside. I actually see Aquarius in you in a really cool way. You're always ahead of trends, very innovative, Daphne pajamas. That double as an outfit is very Aquarius. You're quick with observational humor and you're great at stepping back and reading group dynamics. Aquarius has the ability to detach and see things from a bird's eye view, which can be as helpful balance for Scorpio sun and Pisces moon. Like a mental zoom out button.

• 18:04Paige DeSorbo?

  When the water gets intense. Also, Aquarius tends to enjoy others who beat to their own drum, AKA, might be a little quirky. And I just thought that was sweet.

• 18:12Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you're talking about me?

• 18:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with that, cuz I just went on TikTok.

• 18:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You do beat to your own drum.

• 18:19Hannah Berner?

  Well, I just got, this is what comes with my algorithm. Me, because I'm too weird for the popular girls and too popular for the weird girls. And I go, that's weird. So I go into the comments and everyone goes, someone goes Scorpio rising core, and then someone goes Leo sun Scorpio rising. And that's me. And I was like,

• 18:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god.

• 18:36Hannah Berner?

  So astrologically, things are going well.

• 18:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank god. And it's all that is.

• 18:42Hannah Berner?

  I don't give a fuck. I care so much about astrology. I don't give a fuck.

• 18:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it. Me too.

• 18:45Hannah Berner?

  I don't give a fuck.

• 18:46Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just because it's branded as women, and that's why people are like,

• 18:51Paige DeSorbo?

  grow up. Did you see Doja Cat?

• 18:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see it? Or you're just laughing at the segue?

• 18:58Hannah Berner?

  Well, I love that Doja Cat, you won't hear from her for months. And then she'll come out with like the craziest quote, and then get herself into a drama that she never had to be involved in. Like, she was at peace, but she's like, I wanna know what her chart is.

• 19:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I would love to know what her chart is.

• 19:13Hannah Berner?

  What did she do?

• 19:13Paige DeSorbo?

  She basically did like a full, when she said the whole thing about Timothee Chalamet and was like, about the ballet and the, what was it?

• 19:22Hannah Berner?

  Opera.

• 19:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I guess Kylie Jenner had commented her Insta or her TikTok, wherever she had posted it. And Kylie said, calm down, lol. And so then, I don't know if this is why Doja Cat didn't end an apology, but then like seemingly a couple hours later, she did like an apology. And the apology was, I have to admit, I've never been to the ballet and I've never been to the opera. And wait, I actually screenshotted it because I thought it was so interesting what she actually said. And she basically said that she did it for clicks.

• 19:55Hannah Berner?

  And then I think she felt guilty cuz she realized, in a second ago, it could have been her saying something that everyone was jumping on, and she felt bad. So I think she was trying to like fix her karma.

• 20:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never been to the ballet, I've never seen an opera, and took it upon myself yesterday to kind of give it to the man because there is a culture, there is culture based around outrage. What I was doing yesterday was virtue signaling because I wanted to connect. And I knew that Timothy, Timothy's goof up was something that I could leverage in order for people to connect with me.

• 20:24Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 20:25Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a modern way to garner clicks, likes, approval, and kinds of things like that.

• 20:29Hannah Berner?

  I'm actually obsessed with her.

• 20:31Paige DeSorbo?

  She kind of did a- Not intentionally, but unintentionally did a social experiment and just proved that like, I mean, I feel like because we're from reality TV, we can see it so clearly that like one person can mess up and it could be like, maybe not that bad. And then, but people just feel part of a group when they like pile on top of that person.

• 20:54Hannah Berner?

  Also, when someone does something wrong, your algorithm will be full of people.

• 20:59Paige DeSorbo?

  That agree with you.

• 20:59Hannah Berner?

  That agree with you. And also you get the most clicks when you're speaking on an issue that's like hating on someone.

• 21:07Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why like, I don't understand how anyone's taking anyone seriously. That's like, I ask chat GPT all my questions. It's like, okay, but it's programmed to like eventually start agreeing with you.

• 21:22Hannah Berner?

  It's very strange.

• 21:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It's very strange. I'm like, I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. I'm like, what are you talking about?

• 21:27Hannah Berner?

  For everyone online who's like, their job is like calling people out and critiquing.

• 21:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Whose job is that?

• 21:33Hannah Berner?

  Well, like some, like some people's social media is just like.

• 21:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's just like tea.

• 21:38Hannah Berner?

  That's because they want their own fame.

• 21:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:41Hannah Berner?

  Like no one actually cares.

• 21:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna be honest, I didn't like, I had to reread virtue signal.

• 21:45Hannah Berner?

  I mean, it was.

• 21:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, what does that mean?

• 21:47Hannah Berner?

  I think she's saying like she was pretending that she like really cared about the art of it, but then she knows deep down, she feels, she doesn't feel a type of way about it. She just wanted attention. And then I think she felt guilty.

• 21:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Some people are like, wait, what? Other comments are like, she's playing 4D chess.

• 22:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 22:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Like people should be as self-aware as her. Just interesting.

• 22:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. It's funny because if you think of whenever anyone posts something, there's always a reason. They want to make someone jealous. They want to make someone laugh. Sometimes they want views. And I know as a content creator, sometimes I'm like, okay, what do people want to see? If I wanted views, whatever drama is going on, I could just give my take on it. That's how I actually would get views, but I don't want to be a part of that anger economy.

• 22:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I post to look at myself.

• 22:32Hannah Berner?

  I know, I watch it. I look at you, look at yourself.

• 22:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm posting today because I want to see this outfit on a big screen.

• 22:37Hannah Berner?

  So next time you post something online, figure out like why you're doing it and make sure there's good karma behind it because that shit bites you in the ass.

• 22:43Paige DeSorbo?

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• 24:08Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:24Hannah Berner?

  Are you aware of the David protein drama?

• 27:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 27:26Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, you'd love this.

• 27:29Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 27:29Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I'm gonna like butcher this.

• 27:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not big into, I'm like, I'm not big in the protein community.

• 27:34Hannah Berner?

  I get so many memes that are like, the world's falling apart, but at least we have protein popcorn.

• 27:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's just like, everything has protein in it, and I'm like, how much was I lacking?

• 27:42Hannah Berner?

  It's a

• 27:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I like, oh my god, you guys are really serious.

• 27:46Hannah Berner?

  It's a trend, I think because a lot of people are on GLP-1s, and when you're not eating a lot, you're not getting enough protein.

• 27:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Got it. I just saw a thing that said that they were like, doing studies, and like Ozempic is like, making your bones.

• 28:00Hannah Berner?

  Brittle?

• 28:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:01Hannah Berner?

  Well, I think if you overdo anything, it's bad. But I haven't done the science on it all, however.

• 28:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank god.

• 28:10Hannah Berner?

  But everyone wait, I'll do the science eventually, and I'll let you know my report as a woman in STEM. So I'm very into protein bars.

• 28:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You are?

• 28:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's my thing.

• 28:19Paige DeSorbo?

  My god.

• 28:20Hannah Berner?

  I've been, well, as a tennis player.

• 28:22Paige DeSorbo?

  So you've been hiding this

• 28:24Hannah Berner?

  I have a protein bar in my bag right now. Like, I always have a protein bar just in case I get hungry.

• 28:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you doing protein powders at home?

• 28:29Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 28:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 28:30Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no, it's strictly, strictly.

• 28:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Just a bar?

• 28:33Hannah Berner?

  Protein bar.

• 28:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, and what's your bar of choice?

• 28:36Hannah Berner?

  Right now, I really like those Bearbell proteins. It's always normally like a peanut butter chocolate type thing.

• 28:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember when you totally, um, what are the bars from? Calteen bars? Remember you totally Calteen barred me on tour?

• 28:50Hannah Berner?

  So I, um, there's this thing called Perfect Bars.

• 28:55Paige DeSorbo?

  And they're perfect?

• 28:56Hannah Berner?

  They're perfect, and they just taste like you're eating peanut butter. They're like 400 calories, it's like a meal replacement, and I told you once, like, in the airport, I was like

• 29:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Hey, those are really good, you should get them.

• 29:05Hannah Berner?

  Because sometimes in the morning, I don't want a full breakfast, I'll have one of these.

• 29:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, this is This is a miniscule little bar, this is amazing, I'm gonna eat these all day long. And I'm eating them, and Hannah's like, how many have you had? And I'm like I don't know. And she's like, those are 400 calories each. I'm like, are you trying to move me up a weight class? Are you kidding?

• 29:25Hannah Berner?

  I go on this tour, we gotta be sturdy. You gotta pick up your luggage.

• 29:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I'm literally disassociating from the world on this tour.

• 29:33Hannah Berner?

  Well, you're gonna die. And I'm gonna get this wrong, but there's this thing called David protein bars.

• 29:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 29:38Hannah Berner?

  You might have seen him around. They're the guys who did RX bars. RX bars were the ones that are like,

• 29:45Hannah Berner?

  I didn't realize that I know so much about protein bars.

• 29:48Paige DeSorbo?

  What is this documentary?

• 29:52Hannah Berner?

  You ever see the bars that say no BS on them?

• 29:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 29:55Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my God.

• 29:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, yes, yes. And it's like dates.

• 29:57Hannah Berner?

  Egg.

• 29:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Fuck you.

• 30:01Hannah Berner?

  And a nickel. That's like all that's in it. It's like cardboard, an egg. At least we tell you what's in it. So I think they sold that for a lot of money.

• 30:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 30:10Hannah Berner?

  And then something kind of sketchy happened.

• 30:13Paige DeSorbo?

  We're not done in the protein space?

• 30:15Hannah Berner?

  Something sketchy happened where they somehow claimed that a certain way they make their protein, they like own it and that other protein bars can't do it. So they basically were trying to take over the protein space by saying like, we've, um.

• 30:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Clothing lines have that too. Like we've, we've made this whipped fabric that no one can use. Yeah.

• 30:37Hannah Berner?

  No one can use it. So that was weird, but it's still is being dealt with. But then it comes out that they've been saying that it's like only 150 calories. And a report comes out saying that their bars are actually 250 calories and people are losing their fucking mind.

• 30:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Who's doing these like independent studies? Someone was just like, I've got a hunch.

• 30:57Hannah Berner?

  I have no idea what my sources are, but all I know is someone was like, hey, we tested it and the calories aren't. Also, how does anyone test calories? Like, how do, so people are freaking out. They're like, this is calten bar status.

• 31:11Paige DeSorbo?

  It seems illegal.

• 31:12Hannah Berner?

  Well, but then David just came back. I don't think his name's David. I don't.

• 31:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Is he the actual?

• 31:18Hannah Berner?

  Mr. David has come back and he's, they're like, actually you tested it wrong, but it's gotten all blurry and people are aghast. People are.

• 31:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my God. I would be livid.

• 31:29Hannah Berner?

  And the protein community is like, the macros didn't make sense. This is weird. So at the end of the day, one thing my mom, who's a dietitian. Told me is just eat real food.

• 31:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:40Hannah Berner?

  When in doubt, just eat real food. If you're like, should I have this fiber bar? Should I have this protein bar? Eat a fruit, eat a vegetable and let's move on.

• 31:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:49Hannah Berner?

  So we watch out for that.

• 31:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow. I didn't expect I was, I didn't expect coming in today yet to get like the workout protein. Lore.

• 31:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 32:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of food, um, did you see the McDonald's CEO like taking a bite of like advertising the like new burger and everyone's like, he couldn't bite it.

• 32:12Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I saw it. I couldn't get, there's so much content. I can't get myself to actually watch.

• 32:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's what I found interesting about it and not even that like, not even that like he didn't do it like a normal bite. He like bit it as if he didn't want to eat it and that's like the whole thing.

• 32:25Hannah Berner?

  Don't know how to act as humans.

• 32:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, here's my thing. Why do we give a fuck about the McDonald's CEO? Like biting the burger. I don't care what's in it. I truly don't. I'm gonna buy it. I don't need, I actually don't, if there's one thing on the planet, I don't need you to sell me. It's McDonald's. I'm gonna get it.

• 32:47Hannah Berner?

  If there's one person who's not the McDonald's demo, it's the billionaire CEO.

• 32:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, it's just like, I don't even know.

• 32:53Hannah Berner?

  I don't know what that meant, but I also, do you remember there was a Kim K ad where she got in trouble where they were like, she didn't actually bite down on that? Like it was some vegan burger she was promoting.

• 33:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 33:03Hannah Berner?

  And they were coming for her with that.

• 33:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It was like Beyond Burger or something.

• 33:07Hannah Berner?

  Also, when you shoot these commercials, you have to do it like eight hundred times. So she probably was like, I'm not.

• 33:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't eat it anymore.

• 33:12Hannah Berner?

  This.

• 33:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Trying to think if I've ever had to eat something like on a shoot.

• 33:17Hannah Berner?

  My biggest pet peeve is when there's a commercial where someone's like drinking water and you could tell there's nothing in the water bottle and they're fake swallowing. That really pisses me off. I'm like, got you.

• 33:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Or like sometimes when they're watching TV shows, I'm like, what do they have in place of the alcohol?

• 33:32Hannah Berner?

  Oh, apple juice.

• 33:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Like what's in place of certain things?

• 33:36Hannah Berner?

  Champagne is apple juice, the little sparkling.

• 33:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Water.

• 33:39Hannah Berner?

  Water, I think. I believe.

• 33:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You are right.

• 33:42Hannah Berner?

  Movie magic.

• 33:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I will, yeah, like set design and not set design, but um, yeah, I guess set design. I am so fascinated by stuff like that. Like I love watching people come in and like do.

• 33:56Hannah Berner?

  Well, there's food artists.

• 33:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, food art, food artistry. I think it's crazy.

• 34:00Hannah Berner?

  I love a food artist. Like, how did we get here?

• 34:02Paige DeSorbo?

  One time I was on a shoot, I forget what it was for, but it, something was like sitting in ice cubes, but the ice cubes were fake, but they didn't look fake. And I was fascinated. I was like, oh my god. And I went up to the like, food director and I touched it and she looked at me and she was like, don't ever touch that.

• 34:21Hannah Berner?

  Like, I know your fingers are tiny, but-

• 34:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I'm so sorry. I was just coming over to give a compliment. Now I have to go.

• 34:26Hannah Berner?

  No, tha- that's like matters the most at a food shoot. Like, the model's the last thing.

• 34:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they were like, do not ever look at her and touch her stuff.

• 34:34Hannah Berner?

  We had empanadas yesterday.

• 34:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we didn't. We had-

• 34:37Hannah Berner?

  Quite nice.

• 34:38Paige DeSorbo?

  We had a flight.

• 34:41Hannah Berner?

  A flight of empanadas.

• 34:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think we've ever shared a flight of alcohol together, but we have shared a flight of empanadas and that's like way more important to me.

• 34:49Hannah Berner?

  Also, our drinking days, we don't remember. I used to drink.

• 34:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you did. That's why I was so, I was, I couldn't believe you got a mocktail last night. Cause I was like, let me set the scene. I'm gonna get a cocktail. And I drank that whole glass of wine.

• 35:03Hannah Berner?

  Do you know why, oh, you know why I didn't? Cause we had a big day today.

• 35:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, cause we had to go shopping.

• 35:08Hannah Berner?

  So this is where we fucked up. We had so much fun yesterday together and then-

• 35:12Paige DeSorbo?

  We said, let's keep it going.

• 35:13Hannah Berner?

  We're like, let's keep this high.

• 35:15Paige DeSorbo?

  We would've had a sleepover if like Dez wasn't there. I would've been like-

• 35:18Hannah Berner?

  Even with Dez there, we were about to have a sleepover. But I, yeah, I was like, we're gonna go shopping, it's gonna be so much fun. You got there at noon, I got there at noon. Thank god it started to rain, everybody kept going.

• 35:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we would've kept going.

• 35:30Hannah Berner?

  But then I got home and I was like, and I'm done for the day.

• 35:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm exhausted. No, why is it that like I could do a million things from like 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.? And like be fine? And then it's like when you have a leisure day, you're like, I'm exhausted.

• 35:49Hannah Berner?

  When I have to do two errands.

• 35:50Paige DeSorbo?

  How do I have time for anything else?

• 35:51Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, I love answering emails and editing videos is my, like, relaxing.

• 35:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:59Hannah Berner?

  It's the best.

• 36:00Paige DeSorbo?

  If I'm on my-

• 36:01Hannah Berner?

  Curled up.

• 36:02Paige DeSorbo?

  But if I'm on my computer and Kitty's on the ground like licking herself, I'm like, this is true happiness.

• 36:07Hannah Berner?

  Someone was saying how like kids nowadays don't understand what it was like to like be on your laptop in the bed. But I feel like millennials, we still do it. Well, you have your little iPads sometimes, but like-

• 36:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Are kids not using laptops?

• 36:19Hannah Berner?

  I don't think they're like bringing it in the bed like when we're making a big purchase. We're bringing out the laptop.

• 36:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I've switched to making like flight purchases on my phone.

• 36:30Hannah Berner?

  True. Yeah. But well, the app is sometimes better.

• 36:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm like, I have to make the switch.

• 36:34Hannah Berner?

  But do you ever like, you're like, I'm on my phone too much. I just need to watch TV.

• 36:39Hannah Berner?

  You're like, I need to get off the little screen and just watch.

• 36:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because my mom will text me all the time about my attention span.

• 36:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 36:48Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like TikToks rotting your brain. You're not gonna have an.

• 36:50Hannah Berner?

  I just need to watch a movie.

• 36:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, Mom, that's for Gen Z, not me. I could lay in bed for eight hours. What are we talking about? You've been around.

• 36:57Hannah Berner?

  But like, I literally med it and like get off my phone to meditate while watching like a nice movie.

• 37:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of TV, you rarely watch Love is Blind, right? Have you ever?

• 37:07Hannah Berner?

  I feel like after the first season, I was like.

• 37:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Got it and good.

• 37:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 37:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I watch, I've watched a lot of seasons, not every season, because sometimes the casting is like so bizarre. But this year was, or this place that they did it, they did it in Ohio. Oddly, Ohio has a lot of famous people that come out of there, which I just find interesting. Anyway, I digress. So they're doing their reunion was last night and I don't know what it is, but Netflix just really has not figured out the reunion. I don't, I honestly, I don't think anyone has figured out the reunion, but Bravo, like Andy truly is. As someone who's been at multiple reunions and then watched multiple reunions, he truly is the best. Uh, out of everyone.

• 37:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Netflix no longer did it, is doing it live, which thank God, because that was like, I'm like, guys, no one can get a word in. Last year, they had like some man come and like play basketball in the middle of it. That was like so bizarre. This year, now I'm gonna be honest. I skipped through some parts because I was like, don't care about you, don't care about you, like, don't care about this, like, okay.

• 38:16Hannah Berner?

  How do you really feel?

• 38:18Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like. Well, they had so many like. Random interludes. And I was like, I don't care. Like so happy for the people that used to be on and they're like still married and thriving, but like, I don't care. I want to get to the couples. Now, this is a very interesting show because it's hosted by Vanessa and Nick Lachey. Who are a married couple. Who should not be hosting reunions. Like, I love them as the hosts. I love when they come in.

• 38:46Hannah Berner?

  Are they getting along with each other?

• 38:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, but okay, here's why.

• 38:50Hannah Berner?

  Cause they've, they've, people love commenting on their relationship.

• 38:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, sometimes they're quirky. And look, and you know, I love a quirky person. So like, I've been into it for this many years.

• 38:58Hannah Berner?

  Also, we were raised on him and Jessica Simpson. So we're like, we know the lore here.

• 39:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love Vanessa. Like, I've watched, watched her on MTV.

• 39:04Hannah Berner?

  A professional.

• 39:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's why I think it's weird when they do host the reunion is because he's a straight man.

• 39:12Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 39:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And she's a married, straight woman. So.

• 39:16Hannah Berner?

  They need a gay man, is what you're saying.

• 39:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they need, well, here's the thing. They need a gay man because a gay man can get away with way more than a woman ever could. Like, I could make a TikTok.

• 39:30Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 39:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And verbatim, say something about like someone's outfit. And girls would be in my, in my messages being like, that's the meanest thing. And it totally, it could have totally been, but if a gay man did it. It's like maybe a little funnier. He didn't really mean it. Like, he can just get away with more things.

• 39:47Hannah Berner?

  As someone who's watching RuPaul's Drag Race every day. These men are so mean to each other. But they're so good at like making up and it being funny. If it was girls fighting, people would be murdered. People would be sad. But instead, it's like funny. So you're so right. The gay man is the perfect way. Like, Andy's able to say the, like, read people. Be so shady.

• 40:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And people will be like, clocked it. You're smart. Where if it was a straight woman, they'd be like.

• 40:17Hannah Berner?

  What's her problem with her?

• 40:18Paige DeSorbo?

  So you're jealous of her. So you're jealous.

• 40:21Hannah Berner?

  No, that is so.

• 40:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't even.

• 40:23Hannah Berner?

  Right. That's so right.

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  And with it being Nick Lachey being a straight man. Sometimes he wants to go hard at the other straight men. Which we want someone to go hard at them, but it almost feels like a little too much when it's like straight man on straight man.

• 40:38Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, I don't want to see a war. I don't want a battlefield.

• 40:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Did we, yeah, did they walk through like a security check before they got here? Like, we can never be too sure. Hannah, the other day I was in the park and I walked past three 14 year old boys and in my head, I was like, they have a bomb. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. They walked over to the trash can, put something in it. I literally go, we gotta go.

• 41:01Hannah Berner?

  And he goes, I'm recycling, ma'am.

• 41:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I can't trust your kind. They both had.

• 41:08Hannah Berner?

  I just picked up litter and threw it away that you dropped.

• 41:10Paige DeSorbo?

  All three of them had blonde curly hair. Something was up.

• 41:13Hannah Berner?

  Well, they're getting perms nowadays. They're getting perms. The boys are, I'm not getting into, it'll upset me.

• 41:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm not getting into that.

• 41:20Hannah Berner?

  We did so much work that the Gen Z's have undone.

• 41:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not even getting into that.

• 41:24Hannah Berner?

  I'm not getting into it. Hot take about men. This is a really hot take.

• 41:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You love them.

• 41:31Hannah Berner?

  You know, like a man's in jail.

• 41:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 41:35Hannah Berner?

  I watch a lot of like serial killer documentaries.

• 41:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:37Hannah Berner?

  There's men in jail, they do all these horrible things.

• 41:39Paige DeSorbo?

  The other day Grace texted us and was like, what are you guys watching? And I literally said back like, rainbows on the shore of like Canada or something. I don't even know. And you were like deaf in the room over. Jesus, to fall asleep.

• 41:55Hannah Berner?

  Tuesday. So all these women will be like writing letters to men in jail. And I always thought like, okay, these girls are crazy. Then I realized, maybe they're geniuses. Think about it, if your man's in jail, he's up to nothing. He's not showing up at your apartment. He also is dealing with, he's learned that there's repercussions for your actions. He is forced to go to therapy. He has some form of a job.

• 42:25Paige DeSorbo?

  He's got structure.

• 42:26Hannah Berner?

  He's got structure.

• 42:26Paige DeSorbo?

  He's up early.

• 42:27Hannah Berner?

  He's writing you novels.

• 42:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 42:29Hannah Berner?

  And like, he doesn't bother you. Like Loki, I'm like.

• 42:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you could go and do whatever, he's not like tracking your phone.

• 42:35Hannah Berner?

  He's not tracking your phone, he doesn't have a phone. He doesn't have a phone.

• 42:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Some of them do.

• 42:39Hannah Berner?

  Oh, because they stick it in their butts?

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I'm not exact, I don't think, no.

• 42:46Hannah Berner?

  Or also,

• 42:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I think they can just get them.

• 42:47Hannah Berner?

  You're not gonna fight during that one minute phone call?

• 42:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you're not.

• 42:50Hannah Berner?

  You're like, you don't even know him well enough. You're still in the like flirty phase. Like you can't even get past the like cute phase because you only have a minute with him.

• 42:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I am such a girl's girl. I'm like so for the girls. Like I really like, I believe them first and like I root for them. Not all of them, because some of them are psychotic and crazy.

• 43:09Hannah Berner?

  Are you going for my girls who are calling?

• 43:11Paige DeSorbo?

  If you're writing to a person in jail to have a relationship with, you're insane.

• 43:17Hannah Berner?

  Look, some people, let them, let them, let them have her crush.

• 43:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Crazy.

• 43:22Hannah Berner?

  Let him have a crush.

• 43:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, okay, actually, this reminds me of it because I feel like I heard this and I never forgot it and it's stuck in my brain. Remember Lacey Peterson who got murdered by her husband?

• 43:33Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 43:34Paige DeSorbo?

  When he went into jail, the amount of women that wrote to him was like insane.

• 43:39Hannah Berner?

  No, I know. You randomly, not like you saw a guy on TV who killed his wife who like looks like a bad boy.

• 43:46Paige DeSorbo?

  How am I randomly happening upon in May 302 in Poughkeepsie? Like, are you kidding?

• 43:52Hannah Berner?

  Look, it was a bit. It was a bit I thought was cute that you made dark.

• 43:56Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what I do like though? When you see a mugshot and you're like, okay, New York Fashion Week, actually, we could change your whole, we could change your whole situation.

• 44:05Hannah Berner?

  Men and women that have gone viral.

• 44:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, remember that guy?

• 44:08Hannah Berner?

  People used to get discovered in malls. Now they get discovered with a viral headshot.

• 44:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you remember the viral felon who married the heiress to top?

• 44:16Hannah Berner?

  He had gorgeous blue eyes. I remember.

• 44:18Paige DeSorbo?

  What was that? What was that store? Why do I want to say?

• 44:21Hannah Berner?

  Topshop?

• 44:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Topshop. I was gonna say top shelf.

• 44:23Hannah Berner?

  You can find out that he like knows how to write. Like I've dated a couple of guys where like I'm finally like hanging out with him and I realize that he, he doesn't know what punctuation is. I also think when you're writing to a guy in jail. As one does.

• 44:37Paige DeSorbo?

  You've thought about this for a while.

• 44:39Hannah Berner?

  It's like when you over sex, like you say all these things and then suddenly he's like, "Hey, I'm out. You wanna hang out?" And you're like,

• 44:45Paige DeSorbo?

  "No."

• 44:46Hannah Berner?

  "Well, this is me having fun. I was just flirting."

• 44:48Paige DeSorbo?

  What do you think of conjugal visit?

• 44:51Hannah Berner?

  I think that's hot, cuz it's like, "You can't touch me."

• 44:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that means you can.

• 44:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you could touch? What does conjugal mean?

• 44:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I think like having sex.

• 44:58Hannah Berner?

  Is conjugal?

• 44:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Like touching.

• 44:59Hannah Berner?

  Is that the thing like in the back of your throat?

• 45:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Conjugal.

• 45:01Hannah Berner?

  My conjugal?

• 45:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Fornication.

• 45:03Hannah Berner?

  You can't have sex with them.

• 45:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you can in some jails. You have to be married.

• 45:07Hannah Berner?

  How do you know? You have to be married? That seems fucked up.

• 45:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Does it?

• 45:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you should be able to have sex when you wanna have sex.

• 45:13Paige DeSorbo?

  But it's like, where do you go? They put you in a room? Haven't you ever watched?

• 45:17Hannah Berner?

  It's a smash room like Jersey Shore.

• 45:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Haven't you ever watched 50 Cent's music video, 21 Questions? I'm pretty sure it's like depicting a conjugal visit. Yeah, I'm actually a hundred percent positive.

• 45:28Hannah Berner?

  Sense conjugal visit in his music video is accurate.

• 45:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, he went in a trailer for it, so... And that's where I do my research. Wait, didn't the other day, I feel like I said to you like, "Yeah, I really dislike that person," but like in a 50 cent way?

• 45:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 45:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm proud of that.

• 45:45Hannah Berner?

  And what do you mean by that? Like, you wanna make a documentary about them?

• 45:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I could make a documentary and it would just like, and I'd be like, "Gotcha."

• 45:53Hannah Berner?

  I feel like that's everyone.

• 45:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait. I don't wanna bring up Kanye West on this podcast, but I saw a quote from him the other day.

• 46:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 46:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And somebody asked him if he wishes Kim the best, and he said, "No, because that would mean she'd end up with me."

• 46:08Hannah Berner?

  So he's still flirting.

• 46:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, he's just an insane human. But that line absolutely ate, you know? It's like, how could I wish her the best when I'm not available?

• 46:17Hannah Berner?

  This is your problem. You love a one-liner.

• 46:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I do.

• 46:19Hannah Berner?

  And sometimes you'll separate the artist from the art.

• 46:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And sometimes it's too much.

• 46:24Hannah Berner?

  Gotcha.

• 46:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, sometimes it's too much.

• 46:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 51:13Hannah Berner?

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• 51:26Hannah Berner?

  Coco Moco is this creator online who...

• 51:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought we were going back into the protein bars situation.

• 51:32Hannah Berner?

  You know how sometimes a threads pops up?

• 51:35Paige DeSorbo?

  My worst nightmare.

• 51:36Hannah Berner?

  Which, by the way, I don't look at threads, but then Instagram recommends threads to me and they don't have the same muting that I've done on my Instagram, so I have to re-mute my threads. Because I have my social media very organized for my mental health.

• 51:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:50Hannah Berner?

  But this was actually a funny one that came up from Coco Moco. And she said, "If men text in all lowercase, they're gay." Because that means they have to un-capitalize the first letter and purposely... Like, my husband, who's straight, not to brag, so a couple left.

• 52:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No, in this day and age, it's like, oh, wow.

• 52:11Hannah Berner?

  At first I made fun of him because he's writing like, he's putting punctuation, he's putting, he puts commas. He's 50. Even on Instagram, he responds to someone's comment with like, full punctuation.

• 52:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:20Hannah Berner?

  And at first I was like, babe, you're coming off like intense, this is too strong. And then I realized, no, he's a straight man in his 50s.

• 52:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, yeah.

• 52:28Hannah Berner?

  When a guy is like, "I'm gonna answer with an aesthetic."

• 52:31Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the other...

• 52:36Hannah Berner?

  Get evil up.

• 52:38Paige DeSorbo?

  The other day I was like watching a video or something and one of the guys was like, I don't know if he was gay or not. I don't think he was.

• 52:44Hannah Berner?

  If you have to ask.

• 52:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's so true. But he was shortening every word, like abbreviating it. And there was like a straight man listening to the video as I was watching it. And it was just like so, they were like, he was like, what are they saying? It was just like.

• 53:00Hannah Berner?

  I have an answer to that. Only gay men shorten words because gay men are busy. They have things to do. Especially like they have like, they're creative directors. They have like multiple things happening. It's just like a lot.

• 53:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They're doing reunions.

• 53:11Hannah Berner?

  That's why they walk so fast. Like they're going places. Also, they have to deal with like possibly getting chased by like angry straight men, straight men. Like, you know, things happen. Um, that's why they're good at reunions.

• 53:22Paige DeSorbo?

  They're busy. They're doing reunions.

• 53:25Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so we figured that out. Um, recently I was walking behind someone who was walking fast. Is that what's happening recently? Sorry, sorry. I've been in Canada.

• 53:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry. We've done this podcast for six years now, so this will be the topics moving forward. Sorry, let me get this straight. Recently you were walking behind someone and that person in front of you was walking super fast. So were you walking behind them? Because it actually doesn't sound like you were.

• 53:52Hannah Berner?

  People have to talk about this. I'm, I hate a crowd. The second there's a crowd, drama. Also, I don't care if you're walking with me. I'll lose you. I have to get out of this crowd. If you want to hold my hand, come with. Otherwise I'll leave you for dead, but I'm getting through the crowd. Like, you know, someone's slow. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm not.

• 54:07Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm getting through a crowd.

• 54:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm getting through. Either come with me or don't. Oh my God, so I saw.

• 54:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's really one for all and all for one when you're in a crowd. It's like if you're coming or you're not, make the decision now.

• 54:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Like if I make a move to go around someone, you gotta go when there's an opening or like you're getting blocked.

• 54:24Paige DeSorbo?

  You're fucked.

• 54:26Hannah Berner?

  If I sacrifice myself. Anyway. So I saw, I went, where is this? Oh, I was at Indian Wells. There was a crowd and I said, and it's Indian Wells, a lot of retired people. It's calm. It's California. Everyone's chill.

• 54:36Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a weekend. You're doing a social event.

• 54:38Hannah Berner?

  But I see this crowd. I said, I can't do this. And then there's a woman in front of me with a backpack and she's not having it either. And she starts like Moses.

• 54:50Hannah Berner?

  Random woman. I go, I'm following this woman. So she paves the way for me and me and this woman, we got through a whole tennis tournament together. And I just want to say shout out to that woman with the backpack at Indian Wells. Thank you for, for being there for other women.

• 55:05Paige DeSorbo?

  The only quick one I could say that I could relate to that is you ever been in an Uber?

• 55:10Hannah Berner?

  You ever been?

• 55:11Paige DeSorbo?

  You ever been in an Uber that gets right behind an ambulance?

• 55:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me tell you, that Uber driver is never been happier in his goddamn life. He's riding that Uber. He's riding that ambulance all the way down fifth Ave. Like, I mean, he's go, he's moving.

• 55:32Hannah Berner?

  I was in an Uber recently where the guy fully just went in the like empty lane that you're not supposed to go to. And at first I was appalled and then I said, this guy's a genius.

• 55:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:41Hannah Berner?

  Cause when it's you, when other people do it, they're assholes.

• 55:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I feel like when I'm in an Uber, like unless I feel like you're gonna sex traffic me, I'm on your side.

• 55:50Hannah Berner?

  When an Uber guy, when he honks.

• 55:52Paige DeSorbo?

  We're a team.

• 55:52Hannah Berner?

  When he honks.

• 55:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Stick up for us.

• 55:55Hannah Berner?

  When he honks, I'm like, it's us versus the world right now.

• 55:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm like, no, that guy was crazy. You were in the right.

• 56:01Hannah Berner?

  And, cause I've been in Ubers that are a little lackadaisical. They don't care to like, when it's yellow, they just like stop. Like they're not in a rush. I'm like, so you don't care about like my wellbeing?

• 56:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I've lowkey been in Ubers and gotten in car accidents, like fender benders. I've been in like two, maybe three.

• 56:17Hannah Berner?

  That's a lot. You are in a lot of it.

• 56:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm in a lot of Ubers.

• 56:22Hannah Berner?

  I have a question. What's your Uber setting? Like, do you say, don't talk to me?

• 56:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm not a monster. They get the vibes when I get in there.

• 56:29Hannah Berner?

  I'm the opposite. I have to say, no talking.

• 56:32Paige DeSorbo?

  That's insane.

• 56:33Hannah Berner?

  They still talk to me because I have such a nice aura.

• 56:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:37Hannah Berner?

  So when I walk in, they're always like, hi. And I say, hi, like polite. But then I'm like, I don't want to be in a conversation. When a little kid makes eye contact with me.

• 56:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:44Hannah Berner?

  I'm making that motherfucker laugh cuz my comedy it.

• 56:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's childlike.

• 56:49Hannah Berner?

  It's.

• 56:51Hannah Berner?

  I really kill it in the.

• 56:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It's kid friendly.

• 56:52Hannah Berner?

  The one to two year old demo like they get me like they isn't it funny at such a young age they know I'm trying to make them laugh.

• 56:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually would say even though you don't have children, I would leave my children with you without even thinking of it. Because I know you're such a people pleaser that you're gonna be like, and what do you guys wanna do?

• 57:11Hannah Berner?

  But that's the problem.

• 57:12Paige DeSorbo?

  What's the.

• 57:13Hannah Berner?

  Like sooner you come back and it's craziness.

• 57:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, yeah.

• 57:16Hannah Berner?

  I'm an I'll be an enabler, but they will have fun.

• 57:19Paige DeSorbo?

  They will have fun.

• 57:20Hannah Berner?

  But I have to learn to put my foot down with my future unborn childs.

• 57:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, your kids, but like other people's kids, you don't have to put your foot down. So it's like a free for all.

• 57:27Hannah Berner?

  I jack them up. I get them so excited and then I leave before it's you have to put them to bed.

• 57:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:33Hannah Berner?

  Did you babysit? You oh wait, you were the.

• 57:35Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 57:37Hannah Berner?

  I thought you ran like a babysitting like.

• 57:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Right?

• 57:39Hannah Berner?

  Business.

• 57:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:41Hannah Berner?

  There was always like one cool girl that like ran a full like.

• 57:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Not me. Not me, honey.

• 57:47Hannah Berner?

  Never babysit.

• 57:47Paige DeSorbo?

  One time I actually remember a mom like asking, I was like a senior in high school, maybe. And a mom asking me like, oh, my God, do you babysit? And I remember being so offended. I was like, no. Like, and I remember calling my mom being like, she asked me if I could babysit her kids like, no, no, I don't know your kids.

• 58:04Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if I met your kid. Can I see a photo first?

• 58:10Hannah Berner?

  What's their sign?

• 58:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 58:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Asking for a photo and being like, no.

• 58:18Hannah Berner?

  I'm a pick me when it comes to being a babysitter. I'm like, who's your favorite babysitter? And I.

• 58:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I've like watched like my younger cousins.

• 58:26Hannah Berner?

  Like I've seen a kid.

• 58:27Paige DeSorbo?

  But I'm like, I can't get fired from this job.

• 58:30Hannah Berner?

  They're the purest form of a soul.

• 58:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:33Hannah Berner?

  That's how kids are. You're just like.

• 58:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 58:35Hannah Berner?

  Like, you know, like you're in the airport and you're waiting line. You want to fucking kill everyone. And then some kid looks at you and is like, hi.

• 58:41Paige DeSorbo?

  No. I actually get more mad. I'm like, and there's goddamn kids.

• 58:47Hannah Berner?

  I don't have a follow up to that. Kids, they do make stuff about them, which I think that's what you don't like. They're like, it's about me.

• 58:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I just find them annoying. I'm like, be an adult.

• 58:59Hannah Berner?

  What if they have a good outfit on?

• 59:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Adorable. Well, that's a testament to the mother. So.

• 59:04Hannah Berner?

  Which, at the end of the day.

• 59:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's all about the moms.

• 59:06Hannah Berner?

  It's all about the moms. Um, have you heard of this nona maxing thing?

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 59:12Hannah Berner?

  Really? That hasn't come across to your.

• 59:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Like as in, and like grandmas?

• 59:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, nona maxing. It's.

• 59:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I'm quite interested.

• 59:19Hannah Berner?

  Eating generational recipes.

• 59:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 59:22Hannah Berner?

  Cotton nightgowns.

• 59:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Check, check.

• 59:26Hannah Berner?

  Walking everywhere.

• 59:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Check, check, check.

• 59:28Hannah Berner?

  Um, Italian penicillin soup. Air out the home.

• 59:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You must air out your home. Was airing out your house a big thing when you were growing up?

• 59:38Hannah Berner?

  No, because we lived in New York City.

• 59:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Every single window in the house, it would be like the first nice day. And she'd be like, we have to spring clean. It was as if like the Pope was coming over.

• 59:48Hannah Berner?

  I feel like that's like, um, a rural thing to do. Like you have to have nice air to do that.

• 59:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 59:53Hannah Berner?

  Like you guys had nice air.

• 59:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we had nice air.

• 59:55Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, we didn't. We were like, oh, but the.

• 59:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's, that's true.

• 59:58Hannah Berner?

  Some guy's smoking a cigarette outside. I'm like.

• 1:00:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Now that I think about it, like, I feel like she was right. Like, because you're cooped up all summer.

• 1:00:06Hannah Berner?

  Just breathing each other's air.

• 1:00:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Breathing in the same air.

• 1:00:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I also feel like the most Italian thing about you is if you ever go to Italy, or just in general, even in Brooklyn, old Italian women love to just sit out by their window.

• 1:00:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:21Hannah Berner?

  Observing. They're protecting, they're cutting in the gossip. They just sit there all day. And like, isn't she bored? No, she is people watching, collecting information, spying.

• 1:00:33Paige DeSorbo?

  My grandma had two rocking chairs. Outside on the porch, she was like, come on, we're gonna sit outside, we're gonna talk about the neighborhood. Like, I was four years old and I was like, she did what next door? I'm like, Grandma, are you fucking kidding me? Like, my grandma was everything I want to be today. Like, she smoked cigarettes, just chain smoked them. And like, I think-

• 1:00:58Hannah Berner?

  Well, we don't do that.

• 1:00:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I think about, right, because we don't do that on this pod. But I think about, like, if we were, like, girls at the same time, like, oh, we would just go- I would gossip, and if I lived in the 50s, all I would do is smoke cigarettes.

• 1:01:12Hannah Berner?

  In my family ancestry org-

• 1:01:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:15Hannah Berner?

  Which someone messaged me, it is run by Mormons, but they're just kind of obsessed with lineage.

• 1:01:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I don't feel like the Mormons are, like, taking your info.

• 1:01:26Hannah Berner?

  So, when I got all the way back to, like, the 1600s-

• 1:01:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:30Hannah Berner?

  With my Italian ancestry, I clicked it. One of them lived till 93.

• 1:01:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 1:01:36Hannah Berner?

  So I called my mom and I'm like, 93 in the 1700s, is that insane?

• 1:01:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Super insane.

• 1:01:40Hannah Berner?

  And she said, Hannah, there's these things called, I'm laughing because now she's gonna call me and be like, you said the story wrong.

• 1:01:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Blue Zones?

• 1:01:45Hannah Berner?

  Blue Zones.

• 1:01:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 1:01:48Hannah Berner?

  She goes, we lived in Sicily in a blue zone. You know what a blue zone is?

• 1:01:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:51Hannah Berner?

  How the fuck do you know what a blue zone is?

• 1:01:52Paige DeSorbo?

  There was like a documentary a couple of years ago, and your mom being a dietitian, she definitely saw it. And it was about all these different places in the world that people live to, like, an insane age.

• 1:02:02Hannah Berner?

  So in Sicily, there's blue zones where you have to walk up a cliff to get to your house. And I guess it's so good for your lungs, and like-

• 1:02:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And they pretty much have, like, a Mediterranean diet.

• 1:02:13Hannah Berner?

  They're just these healthy Mediterranean Italians-

• 1:02:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:16Hannah Berner?

  Walking all around.

• 1:02:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine if I had 90 years of gossip.

• 1:02:20Hannah Berner?

  93. But also, back then, I thought, I thought you croaked at 36, 93.

• 1:02:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:02:25Hannah Berner?

  He must, who was he talking to? Did he have friends?

• 1:02:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:02:29Hannah Berner?

  Were they all just old? But it's like, I think then everyone moved to New York, and everyone was, like, getting hit by trains, and like, it was just craziness. But when you just live in a small Italian island-

• 1:02:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:41Hannah Berner?

  Maybe that's the way you do it, if you want to live a long life.

• 1:02:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It sounds like we're going back.

• 1:02:44Hannah Berner?

  I think we're going back to the homeland.

• 1:02:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, a blue zone does sound relaxing.

• 1:02:50Hannah Berner?

  Do you have blue zone in your family?

• 1:02:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 1:02:53Hannah Berner?

  Well, you have people with family search org.

• 1:02:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I have to figure out where in Sicily.

• 1:02:56Hannah Berner?

  This pod is not sponsored by Mormonism or FamilySearch.org. Just want to say that, in case anyone was wondering. But I did have a giggler message me who's like, I work for like the Celsius of something really important as the gigglers do. And she's like, it's very legit.

• 1:03:10Paige DeSorbo?

  The census?

• 1:03:12Hannah Berner?

  Maybe.

• 1:03:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Celsius? That's a drink.

• 1:03:15Hannah Berner?

  Bless you. Celsius is a drink. It's also a temperature.

• 1:03:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yours, oh, right.

• 1:03:22Hannah Berner?

  I want to correct each other double wrong. You dumb bitch. Celsius, that's a drink.

• 1:03:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 1:03:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, Celsius is a drink I drank once and bashed my head through a wall.

• 1:03:32Paige DeSorbo?

  It's temperature for like, not for Europeans. When are we ever using Celsius?

• 1:03:38Hannah Berner?

  Dez uses Celsius sometimes.

• 1:03:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And he's European. You just proved my point.

• 1:03:42Hannah Berner?

  He uses military time sometimes. There's things going on in my relationship that I'm working on.

• 1:03:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but again, that is European too. They do that in Europe.

• 1:03:50Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's Europe. Well, we found out that Dez read Wuthering Heights in one week. That shook everyone.

• 1:03:54Paige DeSorbo?

  We found out that he reread it. He was like, well, obviously I read it years ago. And we were like, oh my. Pardon us. I was like, okay, well, I read my first book in 20 years last month. Okay?

• 1:04:08Hannah Berner?

  What are you currently reading? The gigglers want to know.

• 1:04:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Seven husb- The seven husb- Evelyn, what is it called?

• 1:04:16Hannah Berner?

  Evelyn, do you go?

• 1:04:17Paige DeSorbo?

  The Seven Husbands, whatever, that one.

• 1:04:19Hannah Berner?

  Is it good?

• 1:04:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's good. I'm only on like, I really am not doing well. I'm only on like page 50. I'm not doing well.

• 1:04:26Hannah Berner?

  Wait, stop with the negative self-talk.

• 1:04:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and it's not the book. I like the book. It's just, I'm not as into it as I was my last one. I don't know why. But I need to like buckle down.

• 1:04:37Hannah Berner?

  Are you gonna read on flights?

• 1:04:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think I can bring myself to do it.

• 1:04:42Hannah Berner?

  You know why you like a book? I know why you like a book.

• 1:04:44Paige DeSorbo?

  The aesthetic?

• 1:04:46Hannah Berner?

  It's an accessory.

• 1:04:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 1:04:49Hannah Berner?

  When you posted that photo of you at the beach, I go, oh, and now you saw something in your lay flat and you were like, something's missing. Something's missing.

• 1:04:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, should I do my sunglasses? No, we're over that. Like, we've seen those. And then they were like, how about just a corner of my book? No, I literally texted Kazzy and I was like, I'm going to the beach. I'm going to take the best photo of your book.

• 1:05:07Hannah Berner?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:05:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause that's what friends do.

• 1:05:09Hannah Berner?

  That's what friends do.

• 1:05:10Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what friends do. They support their other friends and they like want the best for them.

• 1:05:15Hannah Berner?

  Women supporting women, gigglers supporting gigglers. We also are going to the iHeart Awards.

• 1:05:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:05:20Hannah Berner?

  Podcast Awards. We did forget to tell anyone to vote and they closed the voting.

• 1:05:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Did they?

• 1:05:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you want to know what? We're not pick me. We're like, if you happened upon it in your own time, great.

• 1:05:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm not forcing the gigglers to get us an award. Also, we don't need awards for happiness. We have each other.

• 1:05:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and we do have the best podcast.

• 1:05:41Hannah Berner?

  And we're also saying this because if we lose, we're like, well, we didn't care.

• 1:05:43Paige DeSorbo?

  We didn't care.

• 1:05:44Hannah Berner?

  And then if we win, we're like, oh my God, surprise.

• 1:05:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And if we win, we're like, we didn't even have anyone vote for us.

• 1:05:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Definitely amazing.

• 1:05:52Hannah Berner?

  I'm wearing a pretty crazy dress.

• 1:05:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I still haven't picked out my outfit. I'm just like not loving anything these days.

• 1:05:58Hannah Berner?

  Are you gonna try to match me?

• 1:06:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:06:00Hannah Berner?

  Okay. Do you think the gigglers are gonna be for or against the dress? Which is basically, did you think they're gonna think you liked the dress or not? It depends how photographs.

• 1:06:10Paige DeSorbo?

  It depends how photographs. I like the dress because it's so true to you and like your personal style and being quirky and like trying something and being like, you've seen that before and you're like, I love that, the way that looks. And I think that's cool.

• 1:06:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. And you go, and I love when things get you excited.

• 1:06:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that.

• 1:06:31Hannah Berner?

  For you. So keep an eye out for those photos. Hopefully they come out well. If they don't, just, just say a little like, post a little like, little, I support you. I support women in the arts. Um, we love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling and we'll talk to you on Monday.

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