272. Garry Lineham "Human Garage": Fascia, Stored Trauma, C-Sections & Leann Rimes Release

You're stretching wrong, and I didn't believe it either until Garry Lineham put his hands on me and corrected a decades-old flat arch, a torn bicep tendon limitation, and my hip rotation in 5 minutes! In this episode, the founder of Human Garage walks me through why every time you stretch a muscle your nervous system dumps adrenaline for four hours, how he reverse-engineered the answer in 17 months of solitary confinement after $2.5 million and 300 practitioners couldn't fix him, and why fascia, not your brain, is where your body actually stores trauma. BECOME GARY’S VIP!: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow along with Garry’s 15-minute full-body stress relief session here: https://bit.ly/3PKeWoY Listen to Garry Lineham: Spotify: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4tXDclH⁠⁠ Apple: ⁠⁠https://apple.co/4tIQeDp⁠⁠ YT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4vceEX9⁠⁠IG: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4uQ2FOD⁠⁠ FB: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4uhvi7z⁠⁠ Thank you to our partners A-GAME: “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: ⁠http://bit.ly/4kek1ij ⁠AION: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: ⁠https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD⁠ AIRES: "ULTIMATE20 " FOR 20% OFF: ⁠https://bit.ly/4a3Duze⁠ BAJA GOLD: "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: ⁠https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa⁠ BODYHEALTH: “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: ⁠http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV⁠ COLD LIFE: THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: ⁠https://bit.ly/4eULUKp ⁠CYMBIOTIKA: "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: ⁠https://bit.ly/4tjyluP⁠ GENETIC METHYLATION TEST (UK ONLY): ⁠https://bit.ly/48QJJrk⁠ GENETIC TEST (USA ONLY): ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9⁠ GOPUFF: ⁠https://bit.ly/4obIFDC ⁠H2TAB: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: ⁠https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg⁠ HEALF: 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: ⁠https://bit.ly/41HJg6S⁠ ⁠SNOOZE: ⁠https://bit.ly/4pt1T6V⁠ WHOOP: JOIN & GET 1 FREE MONTH!: ⁠https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW⁠ Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” Tuesdays & Thursdays: YT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 ⁠⁠Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3RQftU0⁠⁠ Connect with Gary Brecka IG: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs ⁠⁠FB: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/464VA1H ⁠⁠Web: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU⁠⁠ Merch: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1⁠⁠ Newsletter: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/47ejrws ⁠⁠Ask Gary: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG⁠⁠ Timestamps 01:21 - Introduction 03:03 - The pain crisis04:37 - Chiropractor cellmate 08:19 - Opening Human Garage in a Venice garage 13:46 - What fascia actually is and the interstitium 15:44 - The body's energy field and fascia communication 17:19 - Reorganizing the body 20:54 - Reducing friction instead of adding force 23:13 - How trauma stores in the body 26:54 - Why self-directed work outperforms practitioner work 30:46 - The shower epiphany and counter-rotation discovery 33:35 - The 15-minute stress reset explained 44:01 - Why stretching creates a stress spike 49:44 - C-sections, cranial compression, and ADHD 53:31 - Where to find the free protocols 55:28 ​- What does it mean to you to be an Ultimate Human? Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not provide medical advice. It is not intended for diagnosing or treating any health condition. Always consult a licensed healthcare professional before making health or wellness decisions. Gary Brecka is the owner of Ultimate Human, LLC which operates The Ultimate Human podcast and promotes certain third-party products used by Gary Brecka in his personal health and wellness protocols and daily life and for which Ultimate Human LLC and / or Gary Brecka directly or indirectly holds an economic interest or receives compensation. Accordingly, statements made by Gary Brecka and others (including on The Ultimate Human podcast) may be considered. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  You can cut every tendon, nerve, bone, eyeball. There's only one thing you can't remove from the human body. Fascia. If you can't remove it, that would indicate that we are it.

• 0:09Gary Brecka?

  I never have viewed the fascia the way that you view it. This connective tissue, you view as a superhighway for everything from minerals, vitamins, amino acids, nutrients, to the delivery of signals to a place where we actually lock up trauma.

• 0:26Speaker 00

  What we're doing with fascial maneuvers is reducing the friction. And when we reduce the friction, all those muscles, tendons, nerves, bones, everything organizes and works better. So that changed my belief system of how to get performance out of the body.

• 0:38Gary Brecka?

  It does inherently make a lot of sense that fascia that's connecting everything, which is also a communication system, when it gets stressed, that there's some kind of communication pathway that's interrupted there. And I think people can benefit so much.

• 0:51Speaker 00

  But if you just have minerals and you move your body fascially, things get better, no matter what it is. So in other words, it's within the reach of everybody.

• 0:58Gary Brecka?

  For somebody that's watching this, what are some basic things that they could do to address their fascia?

• 1:03Speaker 00

  Well, what we did for you is you don't start off with a problem. You start off with...

• 1:21Gary Brecka?

  Hey, guys. Welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brecka, where we go down the road of everything: anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today's one of those in-between podcasts. I don't know if I would put it in the biohacking, longevity, anti-aging category. I'm not sure which category to put it in, but it is massively impactful. I have both experienced it and benefited from it. So has my wife, Sage. And also, this is a first in Ultimate Human Podcast history to have someone named Gary on the podcast. So, welcome to the podcast, Gary Lineker.

• 1:55Speaker 00

  You're the original Gary, because you're 1R. I'm 2R Gary's.

• 1:58Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. Okay. So, but still, a first Gary that I've had on the podcast.

• 2:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's interesting.

• 2:05Gary Brecka?

  From the Human Garage. And I think a lot of folks have seen you online. I think the LeAnn Rimes adjustment that you did, the fascial release in her jaw, which also released locked trauma. Went unbelievably viral.

• 2:21Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 2:22Gary Brecka?

  Three quarters of a billion views in 10 days. Congratulations for that. And you know, what I love about this platform is that I get to think, I mean, I get to sit in front of guests that are trend setters, some that are way outside of the norm, like the thinkers, the doers, the, sometimes they're PhDs or MDs or researchers that have all of these qualifications. Sometimes they're just somebody that solved a problem in their life.

• 2:52Speaker 00

  That's me.

• 2:52Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And I know you solved a big problem, right?

• 2:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56Gary Brecka?

  Not many people want to ever solve that problem, but you were, you were in solitary confinement for.

• 3:01Speaker 00

  Seventeen months.

• 3:02Gary Brecka?

  Seventeen months.

• 3:03Speaker 00

  Twenty seven months. Cause I encrypted data, long story short, I encrypted data for the governments and, well, for everybody and a lot of government contacts and contacts who are using it. And I decided that I didn't like what was happening. So I, I basically said the government's spying on you, which everybody kind of knows at this point. And then I just.

• 3:27Gary Brecka?

  We're well aware of that.

• 3:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. But back then, nobody was in 2005. And they came in full force. They gave me two indictments, one as a drug dealer.

• 3:37Gary Brecka?

  Drug dealer?

• 3:38Speaker 00

  Well, because they're using my encrypted BlackBerrys to, to peddle drugs, you know, what somebody was. And so they made me a part of that conspiracy. And, and so 17 months in solitary confinement, without going into all the details, that's where my life changed. I, I had been in the tech business. I had built software, amazing, incredible things that I had done in my earlier career, like the first early blockchains. We sold technology to Boeing to, to do identity and authority, like the first legally binding signature on the internet, voice over IP encrypted technologies on the cutting edge. But my body was getting worse as I was going from previous injuries. And I finally just crashed.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  And when I went to prison, it was, that was the end of it. I'd spent two and a half million dollars, 300 practitioners up to that point. And I was getting worse.

• 4:32Gary Brecka?

  And then you went into prison and your cellmate was a neurologist.

• 4:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:37Gary Brecka?

  Or neuroscientist.

• 4:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, and a chiropractor who became a neurologist.

• 4:40Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 4:40Speaker 00

  And.

• 4:41Gary Brecka?

  What did he do, by the way?

• 4:43Speaker 00

  Uh, at that time.

• 4:45Gary Brecka?

  Seems like a good dude.

• 4:46Speaker 00

  And sure, and at that time, it was called insurance fraud. You weren't allowed to pay for a marketing agency to get you a client per head. So you could pay a marketing agent, but you can't pay, you know, $500 for every.

• 5:01Gary Brecka?

  Oh, per lead. Okay.

• 5:02Speaker 00

  And, and everybody was, the government decided to make examples of everybody. And I was at this particularly low point. I was in the most pain I'd ever been in. I was in a 10 out of 10 pain. If I could have killed myself, I would have multiple times, but I had no tools.

• 5:15Gary Brecka?

  And what was the pain coming from? Is this musculoskeletal pain?

• 5:18Speaker 00

  Muscle skeletal, back pain. I was a bodybuilder, fell under a heavy squat, had a couple of car accidents, eight concussions. So I was, it was physical pain, it was emotional pain, it was PTSD. And, and I was managing it as I was moving along, but now I have no tools. And this is where the journey started because as long as I could manage it, I could kind of get through. But now I couldn't. I was laying in there in a 10 out of 10 pain. And I'm not a, I definitely wasn't a praying guy. But one day I was crying and I was, and I was, I was literally breaking down. I said, I prayed, I said, God, if you help me out of this, I'll spend the rest of my life helping people never, ever, ever have this pain.

• 6:01Speaker 00

  And an hour later, my cell door opened crack and then in comes, and I thought something, that's usually not a good sign, just so you know.

• 6:10Gary Brecka?

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're going to do something to you.

• 6:12Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 6:13Speaker 00

  And they stuffed this old guy in and he was a chiropractor who became a neurologist. And he, for the next 14 months, he, first of all, he adjusted me right away. And I had 24 hours a day. For 14 months of somebody teaching me and talking to me and talking to me about the body. And I'd learned a lot because I'd already been studying, trying to solve my own issue. But this is what put that that pin in it, allowed me to actually take all those things that I learned and put them into some sort of practice.

• 6:43Gary Brecka?

  Hmm. So you're in there for seven, well, not

• 6:46Speaker 00

  17 months, 27 months total.

• 6:48Gary Brecka?

  With him?

• 6:49Speaker 00

  Well, 14 months with him.

• 6:51Gary Brecka?

  Wow. 24 hours a day, basically seven days a week, you get to be

• 6:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, it's pretty good education.

• 6:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 6:57Speaker 00

  Because the guy's scared, his life's changing and he has nothing, he just wants to talk. And I'm just listening and listening, watching, understanding. It's a very compressed education.

• 7:08Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, you get, well, I mean, I think most education comes from the real world experience. I mean, very little, I think, of what we learn in textbook translates directly into real life. I think you prove that you can follow a set of rules and you can complete assignments on time and you're reliable and you can handle a certain workload. I think so that kind of sieve is excellent. And the education, I'm not knocking the education, but when you emerge, I mean, you get your real world experience in the real world.

• 7:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, for sure. If you you take a look at somebody who spent, you know, five years studying about medicine.

• 7:41Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 7:41Speaker 00

  And but he's never done a surgery.

• 7:43Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 7:44Speaker 00

  But he knows everything about it. Or you have somebody who's done 10,000 surgeries, like, but which one do you want to work with you?

• 7:52Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 7:52Speaker 00

  The the old surgeon or the the new one? And there's, there's a, you know, just like in your life and what you've done, it's trial and experience and of one science.

• 8:05Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 8:05Speaker 00

  When the need is great enough, we just step in and do it. And if it worked for me, maybe it would work for you. And that was the whole thought process around it.

• 8:14Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. So you get out and eventually this leads to you starting something called the Human Garage.

• 8:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:19Gary Brecka?

  Which is, I love that term, by the way. I think that's really cool. Like, you know, we park a lot of valuable things in our garage. We don't think about parking ourselves in there.

• 8:26Speaker 00

  Right.

• 8:27Gary Brecka?

  Um, so I think it's a great name. I don't know what gave the rise to it.

• 8:30Speaker 00

  Well, we were in Venice, California, and my wife, Vanelle, and myself, we actually started doing therapy in the garage.

• 8:39Speaker 00

  And we moved into an apartment and we, we at that time, we were, I was still part of a previous clinical practice that I was working with. I was in the garage trying to figure out the solution and we were working on people and we would work on, literally, we would work on people from 6:00 AM to 10:00 PM at night. We took all the furniture out of a two-bedroom apartment and we just started seeing people. And, and what was happening, which you could only do in Venice, California, we had like celebrities like Brendan Roth and Kitty Lottz and DC Comic Heroes. We had all these athletes and celebrities who had found us because we were experimenting and trying stuff and it worked. And LA is just that vibe. You couldn't do it here in Miami.

• 9:22Gary Brecka?

  I mean, only in LA can you open a practice in your garage, fresh out of prison and be successful. So I'm like looking at your marketing campaign, felon, fresh out of prison, opens practice in his garage.

• 9:33Speaker 00

  Right.

• 9:34Gary Brecka?

  You can't see it being flooded with people, but no, it's, your, your trajectory's been amazing. We run in a lot of the same circles and one of the reasons why I was intent about having you on the podcast is because, first of all, I had never experienced anything directly until today, which was phenomenal. And I'll post the, I'm gonna put these videos into the, into the podcast notes and I really encourage you to watch those because I have had a lot of very intelligent, very impactful people sit in that seat right there, but none have been able to make the kind of change that he was able to make anatomically on me in five minutes. I mean, literally fixed a, I mean, decades old, um, uh, flat arch that I

• 10:19Gary Brecka?

  had in my foot, um, five-year-old, uh, shoulder rotation issue that I have done acupuncture, dry needling, um, physical therapy, uh, shockwave, um, PEMF, high-intensity PEMF, red light, hyperbarics, I mean, you name it. Um, I have access to all of those tools and all of those practitioners and you realigning the fascia.

• 10:42Speaker 00

  Well, actually, I wanna, I wanna step in there for a second.

• 10:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 00

  You actually did it.

• 10:48Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, you taught me how to do it.

• 10:49Speaker 00

  That's the point.

• 10:50Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  The point was is that when I was in pain, I no longer wanted to feel helpless. Even in my own clinic, if I would work all day, I would get adjusted three to five times a week by some sort of therapy in my clinic.

• 11:01Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 11:02Speaker 00

  But there's some days I'd go home at night and I'd be in pain.

• 11:04Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 11:05Speaker 00

  And I, I have to wait till the next morning. I would literally be thinking about the next morning, waiting for a chiropractor or therapist to come in. I'd have it all planned, slip in the schedule before anybody else and get it. And my mind was obsessed with trying to feel okay.

• 11:23Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 11:24Speaker 00

  And I, but I felt guilty and I felt helpless because I had to depend on somebody else.

• 11:29Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 11:29Speaker 00

  And all that time that you spent with really good people.

• 11:32Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 11:33Speaker 00

  And it's not diminishing their work. It's something that you can do yourself. And if you do that yourself, they can go on to help at higher level issues.

• 11:40Gary Brecka?

  Right. Well, uh, and so I want to take this conversation back to the fascia because I, I went to chiropractic college. I graduated from National College of Chiropractic. That's where I got my, uh, uh, second degree in biology. I got a four-year degree in human biology. I never practiced as a chiropractor.

• 11:58Speaker 00

  By the way, I didn't know that.

• 11:59Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah. National College of Chiropractic in Lombard, Illinois.

• 12:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:02Gary Brecka?

  And, uh, it was great.

• 12:03Speaker 00

  I went to the school of prison chiropractic.

• 12:05Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah. I prefer mine, but yeah. But you know what? What they did, an extraordinary good job, and National is known for this, um, was anatomy, you know?

• 12:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:18Gary Brecka?

  Physical anatomy, gross anatomy. We had nine hours of cadaver anatomy a week, uh, for almost two years. I mean, it was, it was highly, highly, highly focused around the details and, and anatomy. So I have a fundamental understanding of fascia, um, and connective tissue and, um, ligaments, tendons, bones, joints, what, what have you, you know? Very strong understanding of, you know, spinal anatomy. I never have viewed the fascia the way that you view it. This connective tissue you view as a superhighway for everything from minerals, vitamins, amino acids,

• 13:00Gary Brecka?

  nutrients, to the delivery of signals to a place where we actually lock up trauma.

• 13:06Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 13:07Gary Brecka?

  I think, myself included, and probably the vast majority of people watching this podcast, think trauma is in your head.

• 13:14Speaker 00

  Right.

• 13:15Gary Brecka?

  I'm not saying trauma doesn't exist because that term gets used loosely to say, oh, it's all in your head and that's considered derogatory. I don't mean it that way, but it is somewhere in your brain.

• 13:25Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 13:25Gary Brecka?

  And therapy or drugs or what have you, ayahuasca trip is there to unlock that. But philosophically, you believe that the body also stores trauma in the fascia.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:41Gary Brecka?

  And I'd love for you to, maybe even just give us a basic understanding of what fascia is.

• 13:45Speaker 00

  So fascia, it's interesting because from a biological standpoint, it's a connective tissue. It connects everything. We used to think it was around everything and connecting it, but it actually goes through it. So I'm a problem solver, a systems solver. So technology is one of my things. When you want to find a bug in a system, you go to the origin, the creation, the kernel, and then you see how it's used. So if we go to the creation of a human, we start to look at the body a different way. When a baby's born, there's a ball of plasma and there's two nerve clusters. And those two nerve clusters are connected by a string. And no doctor or scientist, anybody can tell you which one, until the seventh week,

• 14:28Speaker 00

  which one's going to be the small intestine and which one's going to be the brain. So it's interesting. And then the heart forms. The heart and the small intestine in Chinese medicine are connected. So then the whole muscle skeletal system grows around it. So what is that stuff, that plasma? I consider that to be your fascia. So we're grown in fascia. And then, since you've done a lot of dissections, think about it this way. You can cut every tendon, nerve, bone, eyeball, everything out. You can cut everything out of the human body. There's only one thing you can't remove from the human body. Fascia.

• 15:01Gary Brecka?

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• 15:38Speaker 00

  So if you, if you can't remove it, that would indicate that we are it. And then take a flip side. So that's the mechanical side of it, the, the, the medical side, the scientific side. But there's a field of energy that, that, that exists around us. We can see it with thermography. We can see it with corollary and photography. We can measure it from space with satellites. So that field of energy is around six feet. And heart math talks about it. There's, there is a, a field that radiates.

• 16:13Gary Brecka?

  We just found a pilot in, uh, Iran. Based on a technology that could read his heart signature.

• 16:19Speaker 00

  That's right. Through the field.

• 16:21Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And the Pentagon was very disappointed that that actually made it out into the public, but.

• 16:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a good example. So what is the mechanism?

• 16:28Gary Brecka?

  How powerful it is.

• 16:28Speaker 00

  When somebody walks in a room and you feel they're angry. You're like, even they walk in, it's like, whoa, and you turn around. What gets your biology to turn around? Something is informing you. It's not an odor or a pheromone or a chemical reaction in your body. Something informed you to take an action or you duck all of a sudden when something's thrown at you. And you're not even aware it's there. You see baseball players go like that sometimes and catch something.

• 16:58Gary Brecka?

  Yes.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  So there's something that extends past the body that informs the body, usually in moments of safety. And, and that, I consider that to be the, the field of the fascia that's informing your nervous system how to act. And, and I also wanna give you another thought of in reorganizing. So for me to think about it this way, I had to reorganize the body. I had to take it apart, put it back together another way. So I looked at it and said, well, look at your bones, which are supposed to be our structure. None of the bones in the body touch, except for the teeth, the rib cage, and in the ears. Any other bone touches, you're in pain.

• 17:39Speaker 00

  Bone on bone. So if the bones aren't touching, then what is the structure? Cause structure has to touch. So take the knee, for example. Here's your knee joint. You got one muscle crosses it about that big. What holds up the knee? It's not the muscle. It's two, the bones don't, they're not touching. Can't be the muscle. The meniscus will tear. So the only two things you're left with is connective tissue and skin. So what if connective tissue was the structure? And if that's the structure, then bones, tendons, nerves, organs exist in that structure.

• 18:15Gary Brecka?

  Yes.

• 18:16Speaker 00

  And then we found out in two seven, 2017, in the middle of the clinical practice, cause we had this belief system, but we didn't know how to talk about it. We found out that, that the fascia has a brain called an interstichum. That interstichum is millions of times more receptive than our human brain.

• 18:37Speaker 00

  Tens of millions, hundreds of millions. So, so this is where it starts to get messy because it's, it.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  Crushes on the current belief system of how our bodies are organized. So I reorganized the body and said, well, what if fascia was the key component? And what if it did everything? And could I prove that? And antidote only like, I'll tell you right now, there's not a lot of science behind what we're doing. It's happening right now because we have somewhere between 50 and 80 million people doing this every day.

• 19:05Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 19:06Speaker 00

  Around the world and we have, we have millions of doctors that prescribe it every day. Practitioners, doctors, chiropractors, massage therapists, even down to emotional therapists.

• 19:17Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 19:18Speaker 00

  So there has to be something there and it's working, but we're still learning the language of why it's working. And, but what we do know is we know that if we compress the fascia and we counter rotate it, which we were doing with you earlier.

• 19:34Gary Brecka?

  Which was incredible, by the way, immediately, I, again, I'm going to put the videos in the podcast. And I'm not making this up. You know, I wouldn't pay you this compliment if it didn't actually work for me in real time. It corrected my, my posture, I have a torn bicep tendon. I've talked about a lot on the podcast and struggled with for a long time. It corrected an arch in, in my foot and corrected my hip. And just walking around afterward, it felt immediately better. My wife said the same thing, Sage.

• 20:03Speaker 00

  And also extremely energetic.

• 20:06Gary Brecka?

  Yes. Oh yeah. Like, I don't want to say euphoric, but clear and wide awake. And, and just alert, like my brain turned on all of a sudden. No question.

• 20:17Speaker 00

  So this is where, this is where we were going because originally this, this thought process we used in our clinic with all these super high elite, like Olympic level athletes, like Tyson Gay and Andre Ethier. And now you've got guys like Novak Djokovic and stuff like that, using these, this thought process. And still, again, it's still new. We know it works, we're learning why it works. But, but what if the, you know, the current thought of how to make the body perform better is to pour more on, more power, more performance, more, more hormones. What if instead of pouring more on, we just reduce the friction?

• 20:53Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 20:54Speaker 00

  And so what we're doing with fascial maneuvers is reducing the friction. And when we reduce the friction, all those muscles, tendon nerves, bones, everything organizes and works better. And So it changed my belief system of how to get performance out of the body.

• 21:10Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, and the way that you get performance out of the body and see some of these results is by realigning it. And like, you know, I've done Rolfing, I've done myofascial release, I've done all of these different, you know, modalities to align or release the fascia. And very often, they've been successful. I know that when it folds over on itself, it can restrict mobility. And if you lengthen it, you can restore that mobility. I think chiropractors generally do that.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, they definitely do.

• 21:46Gary Brecka?

  But what I find really fascinating about your work is that you believe that it is much more than connective tissue, that neural communication is happening through this connective tissue, that hormone regulation, that emotional regulation, and that you can unlock things like stored trauma from the fascia. And I've seen it so many times in your videos, and I know so many people that I hold in high regard that have experienced it with you, that I tend to believe it, even though I don't understand the mechanism.

• 22:17Speaker 00

  I don't understand it either.

• 22:19Gary Brecka?

  That drives me crazy, too, because, you know, as like a human biologist, I have like, I have to know the why, you know, before I got in a red light bed, I mean, I've read about the cytochromoxy oxidase dissociation or mitochondrial nitric oxide. I went down the rabbit hole of mitochondrial respiration.

• 22:35Gary Brecka?

  But it inherently makes sense to me, because I'm familiar with, you know, how my collapsed arch led to a medial knee pain, led to lateral hip pain, led to anterior shoulder pain.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 22:49Gary Brecka?

  Right? And I understand this biometric chain, and some people might not accept that if my foot collapses, my shoulder hurts. But that's how it works. And this works in the spine, too. But to go a layer deeper and say, there's more than just structure and stability here. There's communication. There's hormones, there's emotional trauma, there's all kinds of things in this fascia. I wonder if you might just touch on that for a bit.

• 23:13Speaker 00

  Sure. Let's go to the trauma angle for a bit. So. What is trauma? When I started in clinical practice, people would say there's trauma and they go, I didn't go to war. I wasn't abused.

• 23:24Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, a lot of people say that too. I wasn't abused as a child. I don't remember anything. I grew up in a, you know, I didn't have an alcoholic parent or abusive parent. You know, that's what I think what we think trauma is.

• 23:33Speaker 00

  Right. And in today's world, well, except for our kids, our kids are like, I got trauma from you saying that.

• 23:39Gary Brecka?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, triggered now. Gen Z, you're screwed. You guys are soft.

• 23:45Gary Brecka?

  I'm just kidding, just kidding. I got four of them, so I better be careful.

• 23:48Speaker 00

  So the idea of trauma from my point of view, and I'll just share what I found to be true for myself, is that you have an incident, something that happens, physical, emotional, perceptual. We know it doesn't really matter at this point. That can create a trauma stored in our system. So we got an incident. We got an emotion that's about it. Anger, fear, shame, guilt, sadness, something. And then we have a story that we talk about it. We tell ourselves. So think about it as a triangle. And currently in removing trauma, we go to a therapist to tell a story. Try to tell a new story. And I do. But then all of a sudden I get, somebody triggers my emotions and boof, I'm back to the old story.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  Or I go do emotional reset, yell and scream and punch things and I feel really good. But then also my body's in pain and my hormones go up. My brain starts to then start to tell a story again. So what we found is that we had to remove the memory of that in the body. So think about words that we use phonetically, like to remember. So we, memory, think of the body as a computer and the brain not as a computer. The brain is a processor, it runs programs. And if it can't figure out the program, it just keeps running. That's the circular thoughts. That's not an intelligent action. That's an unintelligent action.

• 25:15Speaker 00

  It keeps trying to figure it out, even if it can't, forever and ever and ever. So then if the body is a computer, think about the word remember. If you're from a biological standpoint, you dismember something, you'd be cutting the body in pieces. If you're to remember, you're pulling the pieces back together and then perceiving them or looking at them. So I believe the memory is actually in the body. It's a feeling and it's associated with a feeling. And then we tell ourselves a story about that feeling. Because somewhere along the line, that can change. And this is what happens when somebody has trauma, like they were abused. I was sexually abused by parents.

• 25:55Speaker 00

  And somewhere around 53, I had an emotion come up while I was doing fascial work. And then I literally was able to tell myself a new story. And a pattern that was in my system, I didn't even know was there, just changed. It was like my life changed. And we found that that we have to have all three of those involved in removing a trauma. And what is a trauma? Again, it's really just an incident that's stressful that I can't resolve. The circle doesn't complete. And when the circle completes, the body seems to be the last one. That's why everybody's moving towards embodiment programs, right?

• 26:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, very true. And where did you gain this fundamental understanding on how to train people to release that themselves? Because again, what I'll give you credit for is you didn't put me in these positions. You had me put myself in these positions and I released it myself.

• 26:54Speaker 00

  There's a couple of things about that. So a practitioner who's worked on tens and tens of thousands of people. What I know that if your body gets the relief from a movement, that's a chemical release in your body, like relief.

• 27:09Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  You're gonna get serotonin, oxytocin, dopamine.

• 27:13Gary Brecka?

  I got it, yeah.

• 27:14Speaker 00

  Now, if you did it at my hand, you're always gonna believe your nervous system that I did it.

• 27:20Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  You're always gonna seek and crave my hand to do it, which is very, very addictive. And it also creates a dependency between a practitioner and a patient. But if you are the one participating in it, and I'm just assisting you, it changes the relationship in our nervous system, it seems to, that we have some hand in doing it, we're a part of it. It's like teaching somebody, I don't do it for them, I help them, I get them to do it or help them. So it's like teaching your body or your nervous system how to move through that, and then the belief is there, and if that belief is there, then you can go do it all by yourself. You don't need me.

• 28:00Gary Brecka?

  And what I will say is, I've had plenty of adjustments too, and this was not like having a cervical spin maneuver, or a low back, you know, spin maneuver, or even like a traction kind of adjustment. There was no cracking, there was no, there was zero pain.

• 28:19Gary Brecka?

  It actually felt kind of good. You know that kind of stretching pain that actually has a little bit of pain, but it's got like the good kind of pain, like you know, when you're stretched out, and then when you stop, you feel better.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 28:30Gary Brecka?

  That's what I would liken it to. Pain never went above a two, you know? But the relief was a 10.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:37Gary Brecka?

  Which I found, you know, fairly gentle intervention for a pretty demonstrative outcome. Listen, there's what I share on this podcast, and then there's what I share with my inner circle. If you've been following me for a while, you know how I hold nothing back here. But my VIP community, that's where the real magic happens. Picture this, you're struggling with energy crashes, brain fog, or just feeling like you're not operating at your peak, and you don't know where to get real answers. But here's what really sets this apart. You're not just getting my insights. When I have incredible guests on the podcast, VIP members get to submit questions for our private podcast segment. So that world-renowned expert we just interviewed, you get exclusive access to their knowledge tailored to your specific situation.

• 29:22Gary Brecka?

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• 30:00Speaker 00

  So in mechanics and performance, the least amount of input for the greatest result. And that's like, I look at things from system point of view. I'm very practical driven like an engineering mind. I didn't, I'm not an engineer by trade, but it doesn't mean I don't have the mind that works like that. The least amount of input for the highest gain is what the body wants because the body wants to participate. And if I do too much, the body just goes, okay, you got it. I'm gonna go over and do something else.

• 30:29Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. So along this, this journey, you, I mean, I know that this has been a, a learning curve for you because you didn't step out and gain this knowledge. What was the thing that surprised you the most? What was that like Perry Mason moment? Well, to that moment?

• 30:45Speaker 00

  They, it came out when we were in clinic, we were, we were trying to, I was trying to figure out how to help myself. I was like literally in the shower one night in pain after working on people all day long, you know, 15 people a day. I'm not feeling good. I'm in the power and I'm, I'm heads down, have my hands behind me. It's our movement called anti-gravity today. And I was trying to stretch out an area of my back. And at that moment, I had, I was down in the shower and the water's trickling down on me. And I had like a psychedelic, cathartic. Memory that wasn't really a memory. It was more like a witnessing of something.

• 31:25Speaker 00

  And, and I can't really explain it other than that moment is where I knew that the answer to my issue was not through the hands of somebody else, it was through the hands, my own hands. And that was the, the wake up. And then it turned into a couple of movements that we would give to people or pro athletes to help them. We found that if we could counter rotate, because you know us for doing this, counter rotation, counter rotation seemed to do this. And again, we didn't know why. And I have a belief about it. And I'll tell you, everything I'm telling you right now, I have a belief about and I have a story about it. But I'm completely okay if everything I say to you today is bullshit.

• 32:05Gary Brecka?

  I hope not.

• 32:06Speaker 00

  Because in five, you know, every year, I'm learning more every day. So in five years, we're going to look back at that and go, man, that was stupid. But it allows us to have a conversation about it. And, and so what it feels like is happening is a, is that counter rotated hugging yourself is actually a fetal position. And it looks like a fetal position. And it seems that cells have memory. We have a lot of science to say that. And it seems like when we're in that position, they, they know how to reorganize themselves. That's what it seems like.

• 32:37Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. So you have these different positions. For somebody that's watching this,

• 32:44Gary Brecka?

  maybe they think this is sounds hokey, but for somebody that's watching this, what are some basic things that they could do to address their fascia or even address tight spots on their body? Because everybody watching has something, knee, hip, shoulder, rotator cuff, low back, cervical, something.

• 33:02Speaker 00

  Well, what we did for you is you don't start off with a problem. You start off with a globe, something global to decompress the pressure that's in the fascia. So what we've noticed is that pressure impedes performance, whether it's a muscle performance or nerve performance, any kind of performance, if you have dysregulated pressure in an area, it impedes that performance. Like your elbow swells up, all of a sudden you can't move it.

• 33:27Speaker 00

  So facial maneuvers in the global sense decompress the body. They seem to move pressure around the body in a way that the body can recalibrate. We have a 15 minute stress reset. And, and you can go do that in 15 minutes, the first seven to 10 minutes of that 15 minutes, it drops, no matter how you measure it, it drops 75 to 90% of the stress on the human body.

• 33:51Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 33:52Speaker 00

  And you feel it because you felt it out there.

• 33:53Gary Brecka?

  I felt it immediately. And it, but I'm not a high stress person, but.

• 33:56Speaker 00

  But the other version of not having the stress is the euphoria.

• 34:00Gary Brecka?

  Mm hmm. That would, that I definitely felt.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. So more alertness. When I'm, when I'm not stressed, I have more, I have more alertness, more command of my environment around me. And so what we found is that if we could get somebody, instead of doing a whole practice and learning this and learning all the, the different possible ways.

• 34:18Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And the anatomy and everything else.

• 34:20Speaker 00

  Start off with 15 minutes, do a stress reset. It resets your shoulders, your hips, your back, your spine, your neck, your whole nervous system gets reset in that first for 15 minutes. If that works for you, do it again.

• 34:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. The next day.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  And if it works for you, do it again. And again, and what we found is that when we add just that into everybody's routine, things change very fast. And then if you want to go down a rabbit hole, there's all kinds of resets for every body part you can imagine, every condition you can imagine. Um, like with Leanne, uh, we were having her open up her vocal cords so she could sing easier.

• 34:56Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 34:57Speaker 00

  You know, all the way down to, um, all the way down to like, uh, like back when I worked with Tommy Armour, that one that you did earlier, it's called swinger.

• 35:06Gary Brecka?

  It looked like I was about to swing a golf club. Yeah.

• 35:09Speaker 00

  It was invented for me trying to help Tommy Armour.

• 35:11Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  The golfer.

• 35:13Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 35:14Speaker 00

  And so these are all things where, where you can go specific if you want, but we recommend that you start off globally, start off something very simple, something that you can repeat the action.

• 35:24Gary Brecka?

  So these are, um, by the way, can I put a link to this in the show notes?

• 35:28Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 35:29Gary Brecka?

  Okay. So everybody will get this for free and they'll be able to go through this 15 minute.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Actually, that's a, that's something that we don't talk about all that often, but 95% of everything we have is free.

• 35:38Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 35:39Speaker 00

  I, I don't take a salary.

• 35:41Gary Brecka?

  I read, I read that about your philosophy.

• 35:42Speaker 00

  I don't take a salary. I, I don't own a home. I don't have credit cards. I don't have driver's license.

• 35:48Gary Brecka?

  How do you get on an airplane?

• 35:50Speaker 00

  Oh, I use a passport. I have a passport and a birth certificate. And for me, I wanted to step outside. And the point about it was, is I found a solution. And we are currently growing by about a million and a half people a month right now that are practicing. And it's growing like wildfire because what we ask in return for doing it free is to share it with other people. And that's why it's this worldwide phenomenon, the growth of it.

• 36:17Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 36:17Speaker 00

  It's because people are helping people. And I think that comes back to, you know, naturally, people do want to help people.

• 36:23Gary Brecka?

  Yes.

• 36:23Speaker 00

  They just need a way to do it. And so, yes, almost everything, and what we do is we sell some supplements. We have some guided programs that you can donate. And our programs, most of the guided ones are pay where you feel right. Pass a dollar, pass $250, pass $1,000. And the idea is we believe in the principle that the community will support the community. And because of that, I believe that's why we also have gotten a lot of good press. Because we're doing things that will truly help people.

• 36:53Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And when you decided that I'm just going to give this all away through this ripple effect, which I love. Because I started a media platform. It's very hard. I started my media platform with the sole intention of giving without the expectation of receipt.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  Right.

• 37:09Gary Brecka?

  And as soon as you package information or go to give something, you immediately have an expectation of receipt.

• 37:15Speaker 00

  That's been.

• 37:16Gary Brecka?

  There's always an ask.

• 37:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. So today, free costs us $500,000 a month. So we have, we have like 70 people. We've got thousands of volunteers all around the world. We've been on a world tour. We did in the last two years, since I even saw you, I haven't been home. And we've done 13 countries, 36 cities, 85 events between 500 and 10,000 people. And we were out there on this, on this mission just to get it out there. And the reason why it was free is because I spent millions and millions and millions of dollars trying to solve my own issue. And when I could solve it myself, I was just angry at the system that was teaching me that I needed somebody else. So at the time, I'm like, no, I'm going to make it free to everybody.

• 38:01Speaker 00

  But we had to learn along the way how to, how to balance that, how to receive as well. And so that's been part of the journey is.

• 38:07Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I'm gonna try this 15 minute reset because what you did for me in five or 10 minutes had such a profound impact in a short period of time. What would be astounding is if this was a mechanism to de-stress the body, to help people go from that sympathetic fight or flight state into that parasympathetic rest and digest state. Because there is clear evidence, very clear evidence, that when you are stuck in that sympathetic state, that fight or flight state, which the vast majority of us spend way too much time, our autonomic nervous system spends too much time in that state. When you're stuck there, chronic stress, poor sleep, poor diet,

• 38:47Gary Brecka?

  you know, overworked, just too much on your plate, too, too type A, if you want to say that. This has direct impact on our immune system. It has a direct impact on our emotion and our emotional intelligence, meaning how well we're able to regulate how we react to things, other people's actions, and our mood, amongst a whole host of other things. And, you know, I use breath work, morning, morning light, grounding, you know, and some of the biohacking modalities, but breath work, sunlight, grounding, those are daily staples for me.

• 39:24Speaker 00

  For me, hydrogen, red light or sunlight.

• 39:28Gary Brecka?

  Hydrogen, I love that.

• 39:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, hydrogen, hydrogen bathing.

• 39:31Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I have a hydrogen bath in my.

• 39:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, I carry a machine around me to travel.

• 39:35Gary Brecka?

  You do?

• 39:37Speaker 00

  And red light.

• 39:38Gary Brecka?

  I carry the hydrogen tablets.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Nanovia I use every day.

• 39:41Gary Brecka?

  And that's the inhalation machine then, right?

• 39:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, it stops protein folding issues in the body.

• 39:46Gary Brecka?

  And it's a structured water kind of mist.

• 39:49Speaker 00

  It is, but it literally reorganizes the proteins inside the cell. So it's way more powerful than, than it looks what they say.

• 39:57Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 39:57Speaker 00

  So I believe in, I believe in things that impact us like you do, environment, water, light, sound. And, and I incorporate those with, with our team daily. Those are just things that are just a part of how we live our life today.

• 40:12Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I mean, I, those are what I call passive biohacks, right? If you upgrade your lighting. Your water, your mattress, your air filtration, those are things that you do once and then they kind of serve you without taking more time from your day.

• 40:25Speaker 00

  Yes, absolutely.

• 40:26Gary Brecka?

  Everything else that I do, hyperbarics, red light, sauna, those all, you've got to find time in your day to fit those in.

• 40:32Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 40:32Gary Brecka?

  But what is amazing, and I talk about this all the time, is nothing makes me feel better than putting on a weighted vest with my wife and going for like a three and a half mile loop in the mountains in my, through this woods and over these rocks that my wife and I do in Colorado at about 10,000 feet. Every time I get back, I just feel like, I don't know, I've had this spiritual awakening or took a limitless pill, you know, or the lights are just on and I'm in a good mood and I don't feel this impetus to immediately do something. As soon as I land back in Miami, it's like that fire lights again and, you know, it's like the productivity, you know, demand kicks back in.

• 41:15Gary Brecka?

  And I think people can benefit so much by just drawing their attention and making a part of their daily routine, things that can alleviate that stress and maybe shift them out of that parasympathetic state.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you do breathwork. So the difference is, think about this as intention, breathwork, movement, all in one simple, quick movement. And in order to get people to adopt it, it had to be quick and simple. And you don't have to even do the whole 15 minutes. You do one of the movements, like you did the very first one, and all of a sudden, whoa, I feel it.

• 41:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 41:55Speaker 00

  So if you only had three minutes and you did that in between your appointments.

• 42:01Gary Brecka?

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  You would infinitely be better than the day because stress, as you know, is accumulative.

• 42:05Gary Brecka?

  Yes.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  And our body accumulates the stress and then over a period of time, that 28 day cycle, what we found is the stress habit cycle is 28 days. And we have a 28 day reset where we take people through online and we get them to do a little bit each day. And on the 28th day, everybody has a cathartic drop because they disrupt that habit cycle. Because we get stressed throughout the day, then we go to sleep to remove it. And the body constantly saves the energy for that stress. Like, we didn't give you any, any energy tablets or anything, but you had more energy after that.

• 42:40Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 42:40Speaker 00

  That means that you're, what I believe is that we took away restriction in your fascia. Your body says, oh, I need less energy to move, think, walk, talk, breathe. So I'm going to give you that energy back in the form of, of an enhancement. That's what it, it appears to be doing.

• 42:55Gary Brecka?

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• 43:37Gary Brecka?

  And you can use code ULTIMATE for 10% off and start training smarter today. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Yeah. And, and I think that low level chronic stress is one of the most debilitating things to our cellular biology.

• 43:51Speaker 00

  Absolutely. Like, so we have all of the people doing everything right. This is a very common thing. I'm, I'm taking all the supplements, eating all the food, doing all the things right.

• 44:00Gary Brecka?

  Me, I'm one of those.

• 44:01Speaker 00

  And, but you're going, but you are accelerating your health. And some people are coming up against a wall and say, I'm doing everything right, but I still don't feel good in my body. You know, I measure okay, but I don't feel good. I don't feel emotionally good. Cause one of the things you felt is euphoric, felt emotionally different. That, I believe, comes through this, this method of taking stress out. Because a normal stretch creates a stress spike in the body.

• 44:28Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 44:28Speaker 00

  And when adrenaline hits, when adrenaline, norepinephrine hit your blood, it takes four hours for that to abate or to go.

• 44:34Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 44:34Speaker 00

  When you do a fascial maneuver, there's no stretching. And the reason why is stretching of a muscle threatens a joint. So your body goes, whoa, wait a second here. Am I okay? And a maneuver doesn't actually stretch or create a threat to the body. So it relaxes rather than stress spikes and relaxes. And that's why I believe, I mean, we've done lots of our own anecdotal science on this and at some point we'll publish. But, but that's why I believe it works.

• 45:01Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. Well, it does inherently make a lot of sense. You know, that, you know, fascia that's connecting everything,

• 45:10Gary Brecka?

  which is also a communication system, when it gets folded incorrectly or it gets stressed, or it gets too tight, that there's some kind of communication pathway that's interrupted there. It's like when I first started looking, learning about the oral cavity and, and I had a biologic dentist map all these routes from the brain into the body. It made perfect sense why

• 45:31Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 45:32Gary Brecka?

  different anomalies in the teeth could affect things in the body.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  And there's an emotional consequence with each one of those.

• 45:37Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. So in your journey, what would have been like some of the most profound stories? Leanne Rimes was the big one.

• 45:46Speaker 00

  I mean, we, we have a lot of them documented, but I, I love to focus on the children. The way I had, I had one, a doctor brought a child to us for our reality TV series called Behind the Real that's coming out soon. And we, she had been her, had, the child had, had this extreme sugar regulation issue. And extreme and there was

• 46:13Gary Brecka?

  Couldn't regulate their blood sugar.

• 46:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. And they were giving medication that made the kid hairy. And, and he looked like a werewolf almost. And, and what happened, he had, there's trauma in the birth. So we had that, as we were talking about the C-section, we removed the pressure in the frontal cranial bone through the practitioner version of these fascial maneuvers. And his blood sugar stabilized and has never come back. So things like that, we have a lot of people that have Parkinson's that were shaking and all of a sudden walking better and not shaking anymore. And those are all like on videos, but the ones that really turned me. Are the ones that are the children because you think about it, they're going into a system where they're told that there's no answers.

• 46:59Speaker 00

  And you know, a kid with scoliosis and you can look on our YouTube, you could see me reversing a scoliosis up to 22 degrees in one hour.

• 47:10Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  And so we do, we do that live in stream because no one would believe you if I told you.

• 47:15Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 47:16Speaker 00

  So we, so there's things like that that seem unreal, but it's unreal because of the way that we look at the human body. I look at the body differently. I have a different belief system and these things are all compartments of that.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  And I, but it's the children. You impact a child's life and I, I think every time, if I had that when I was 13, when I went into physical trauma, then what would my life be like today?

• 47:40Gary Brecka?

  This is almost like a way that you can micro release trauma on a daily basis. So it doesn't become cumulative.

• 47:45Speaker 00

  That's what happens. That's what we're, that's why, that's why our 28 day reset.

• 47:49Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  It's so powerful because people within the 28 days, they'll come out of that and they go, it's like I went on a, like a psychedelic experience. I went to a shaman, but they did it by themselves at home. And we, you know, we, we also want people to hear this is that if you can't, there are a lot of times we can't get supplements, like the ones that I gave you earlier, but if you just have minerals, you have silica, what we found to be deficient, everybody through thousands of hair follicle tests and, and, and 102 minerals and you move your body like fascially, things get better, no matter what it is. So in other words, it's, it's within the reach of everybody. And if you have the ability to buy more, do more, you can, like the supplement I gave you earlier.

• 48:30Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, that felt great.

• 48:31Speaker 00

  It's, it's, it's unbelievable. And what it does is this takes out inflammation of the, of the fascial tissue specifically.

• 48:39Gary Brecka?

  And what's in it?

• 48:41Speaker 00

  It's the third curcuminoid called bizdemoxycurcumin. It's which appears in nature like an ORAC rating on curcumin is 9,500.

• 48:50Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  On this product clinically patented and clinically trialed, it's 500,000. And so what we do is take the active ingredient bizdemoxycurcumin. We push it back into the supplement, so chemically copy it, put it back into the natural source of it, which is curcumin. So there's no side effect because the body doesn't see it as something different. And it's at 30%. And then we put a little BDNF in there and it instantaneously pops up your brain and your body's ability to perceive. Like the athletes, like Novak, when he gave to me, he said, I could feel my edges, so my field.

• 49:24Gary Brecka?

  Right. I want to go back to the C-section discussion for a second because we had a really interesting discussion at lunch today before we came on the podcast. And you were talking about some of the reversible detriment of C-section. You know, that 38% of children are born to C-section, but only 8% of those are actually medically required.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  Some countries, it's like 50 to 60%.

• 49:48Gary Brecka?

  Wow. And I don't want to, you know, boo boo any OB-GYNs. I mean, a lot, a lot of C-sections may be medically necessary, but doing them for scheduling purposes.

• 50:01Speaker 00

  8%.

• 50:02Gary Brecka?

  8% are medically necessary.

• 50:03Speaker 00

  Medically necessary, 38% in the United States, up to 50 and 60% in some countries. So it doesn't really matter why, there's a lot, there's a rabbit hole of why we do them. Placenta and the value of the placenta. It changes its value and how it's, how it, like there's less, less bacterial overload. It's cleaner when it comes from a C-section surgically removed. So the placenta is worth more.

• 50:30Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 50:30Speaker 00

  That's, that's one thing.

• 50:32Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 50:32Speaker 00

  But without going down the rabbit holes of that, there's, there's a, there, we know about things like the microbiome and all these things have been talked about. But the mechanics of it is when the head goes through the birth canal that cones. And it naturally, the baby head cones and then settles. That allows the nine cranial bones, the sutures in between it allows them to sit properly. So that they move, our bones are all supposed to move like our cranial bones to respirate. But what we've noticed in a C-section is the frontal bone. When you take a look at it from a side, there's a slight slope to it. And when we do a C-section release, like on a kid, that slope automatically changes its architecture.

• 51:14Speaker 00

  And they have this euphoric experience, usually a lot of crying at first. But especially with kids, there's a, there's a trauma release and an increase of blood flow to the frontal lobe, which is measurable. And anybody wants to do it, they can. And there's lots of people that are already doing this, there are doctors. So this is what's really important is that if that body, if that baby doesn't go through the birth canal, the mechanics of it is that, that adhesion in that cranial suture. And then the lack of blood flow, which creates, or leads to, or shows things that we've, we've observed. That people that have C-sections have higher incidence of ADHD.

• 51:54Speaker 00

  They have anxiety, depression, eating disorders, digestive disorders, hormone regulation.

• 52:00Gary Brecka?

  And you don't really correlate those back to lack of oxygen in the prefrontal cortex. You correlate them to all sorts of other things. So we end up going down a rabbit hole that doesn't have a solution.

• 52:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. And if your, if your cranium's compressed, oxygen has to flow through tissue. And it's like anything, if I squeeze your arm, eventually less oxygen goes there. You can see it'll start turning colors.

• 52:21Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 52:21Speaker 00

  Well, if our cranial bones can't move properly, less oxygen's going to move through the head.

• 52:27Gary Brecka?

  Even after those sutures in the skull are fused and you can still manipulate them and open space in the prefrontal cortex area?

• 52:34Speaker 00

  So what we found, I mean, if you go onto our social media and you see the The hundreds of thousands of before and after photos, you'll see a change in the height of everybody.

• 52:45Gary Brecka?

  My wife changed, got a half inch taller today.

• 52:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, and you could see the change in her face.

• 52:50Gary Brecka?

  I saw it just by correcting her lordotic and kyphotic curves, I imagine, but.

• 52:54Speaker 00

  And it corrected her structural alignment, T symmetry, her face, her, the shape of her forehead changed, all of that. So what the experience of that, what we've noticed experience is increased perception, increased lack of stress going down, emotions seem to be calmer, more regulated right away. And she noticed that immediately.

• 53:16Gary Brecka?

  She did, yeah. And I saw the side by side pictures. We'll put Sage up there. I always throw poor Sage under the bus. Every podcast, I'm like throwing my wife under the bus.

• 53:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, because it's significant and that happened in 30 minutes.

• 53:31Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. I'm going to throw this before and afters on there because I think, I think it's important to talk about. So for my audience that wants to find out more about you, where do they find you?

• 53:46Speaker 00

  I think the best place to start today is if you want to do something, go to our website, human garage.net, or just type in human garage anywhere. We're on most social platforms. We have almost every social platform. We got kicked off TikTok.

• 54:01Gary Brecka?

  How did you get TikTok? You pissed off the Chinese?

• 54:05Speaker 00

  I don't know. You know, we were, we were talking about a certain set of minerals that we found to be deficient that were impacting everybody from chemicals in the sky and.

• 54:14Gary Brecka?

  Ah, there you go.

• 54:15Speaker 00

  And we, so it's silica.

• 54:17Gary Brecka?

  Oh, yeah.

• 54:18Speaker 00

  And.

• 54:19Gary Brecka?

  Aluminum, yeah, there's plenty of them out there.

• 54:22Speaker 00

  So we, we were sharing the, the solution for it and they took away 1.7 million people like that. No warning. So, but yeah, any other special platform?

• 54:32Gary Brecka?

  I've had that happen for peptides. I've had it happen for quite a number of things.

• 54:36Speaker 00

  So they can go there. That's a good place to start. And if they're, if they, they want to try it out, of course, most of it's free. Go to our YouTube and try a 15 minute stress reset. Really just go try that out. And if it works, good for you. Do it for three days. And if that three days it works, do it for seven days. The three day mark and the seven day mark are cathartic in the way that people experience it because when you take stress out of your body for a three day perception cycle, or a seven day cycle, it resets the nervous system. It seems to do something that like, like permanently gives you a new belief in your own body is the best way to describe it.

• 55:13Gary Brecka?

  That's great. All right. Well, we're about to go into my VIP room because my VIPs are waiting for you. They got a lot of questions for you. Before you came on the podcast, I let them know you were coming on. So they've got some really introspective questions for you. But I wind down all my podcasts by asking all my guests the same question. And there's no right or wrong answer to this question. But what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 55:35Speaker 00

  Ultimate human. It's to be balanced between my, my thoughts, my emotions and my actions. Because when I'm balanced to my thoughts, my emotion, my actions, I show up in my best form, whether it's physically, emotionally, or perceptionally. I show up better as a father, I show up better as a husband. I show up better as a, as a, as a practitioner, or helper, or teacher. And so that's really what being an ultimate human is to me.

• 56:02Gary Brecka?

  I love that. The ultimate human is in, I mean, the human garage is in the ultimate human today. I love it. Guys, I hope you enjoyed the podcast. VIPs, we're coming for you. And until next time, that's just science.