The Steroid Olympics w/ Nicole Byer & Sasheer Zamata

This week, Laci welcomes co-hosts of the podcast, Best Friends, Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata (Grand Crew, Agatha All Along ), to discuss the Enhanced Games, a proposed international sporting event set to take place in Las Vegas in 2026. The event is being organized by Aron D'Souza and backed by controversial billionaire Peter Thiel, with the goal of creating a 'science-forward' sporting event where humanity can reach its full potential. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Nicole Byer: @nicolebyer Sasheer Zamata: @thesheertruth Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.wired.com/story/enhanced-games-freestyle-record-las-vegas-steroids/ https://www.sportcal.com/analyst-comment/a-review-of-the-2026-enhanced-games/?cf-view https://www.sbnation.com/2025/5/29/24439297/enhanced-games-world-records-donald-trump-jr https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/sport/world-aquatics-enhanced-games-ban-spt-intl https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/23/style/enhanced-games.html https://swimswam.com/watch-kristian-gkolomeev-goes-under-50-free-world-record-in-20-89-at-enhanced-games-showcase/

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• 2:18Laci Mosley?

  Congregation. What's boppin'? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with a podcast all about fraud, robbery, and those who practice it. I will remind you again, it is a comedy podcast. For those of you who are new to church, stand up, say hello to your neighbor, give him a handshake, amen, amen. And buckle up today because I have a double shot of comedy all-stars in the building. Look, you've seen one of them on Grand Crew, nailed it, and Summer of 69, just to say a few, okay? I'm gonna throw Bob's Burgers in there because I love that episode. And another on Agatha All Alone. Well, I say all alone. I know what it is.

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Poor Agatha.

• 2:56Laci Mosley?

  And another, and another on Agatha All Along, Home Economics, and Saturday Night Live. Hello, together these two icons host the hilarious podcast Best Friends, which just returned from a hiatus. So y'all better go subscribe right now. If you've not already subscribed, why are you playing? You know which Best Friends I'm talking about. It's Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata. Hello, queen. Hello. We love a unison hello. Yes, we're getting claps in the booth. There were claps in the booth. It's giving best friends. We love that. Welcome back to the show. You are both two veterans. Thank you so much for passing around the collection plate. And please give that to me so I can put it in my purse. I mean, put it in the church safe. Sure. Yeah, you know. My purse is the church safe.

• 3:40Laci Mosley?

  But that's just so, it's mobile.

• 3:42Speaker 04

  Well, it's your church, so technically, the collection plate is yours.

• 3:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because I'm keeping it safe.

• 3:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, no, you don't even have to keep it safe. It's your church. So like, by logic, that's your money.

• 3:54Laci Mosley?

  No, that's not how that works.

• 3:55Speaker 04

  Yes, it is.

• 3:56Laci Mosley?

  No, if someone runs a church, the money's supposed to go to the church. Yeah, and the community. Like, back to the community. I'm community. Like, that's why people get arrested when it's like priests buying cars with the community's money. Oh, oh, Nicole, are you serious?

• 4:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm dead ass. But the church I grew up in, he had a new car every couple of years and I was like, that's probably on our dime.

• 4:18Laci Mosley?

  That's not okay, though.

• 4:19Speaker 04

  And then they had a house that I think we all paid for.

• 4:21Laci Mosley?

  That's not okay, though.

• 4:26Speaker 04

  Really?

• 4:26Laci Mosley?

  I hadn't even gotten to the question yet and Nicole's already telling us a little bit about it.

• 4:30Speaker 04

  This is how I've been scammed, actually.

• 4:31Laci Mosley?

  My whole, my whole family's been scammed. You were so sincere. I thought you were on the same wave as me. You're like, no, that's, you take it home.

• 4:37Speaker 04

  I, I'm really shook. Like, I thought churches took money and then like the people of the church spent that money and then some of it. Like, I thought, okay, so I thought, say you give a dollar to the church.

• 4:50Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 4:50Speaker 04

  The pastor and his family keeps 25 cents of it and then 25 cents goes to like the church's building and then 25 cents goes to savings and then 25 cents goes to helping the community in the church. No?

• 5:02Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. I actually don't know how that sounds. That actually, technically pastors should pay themselves a salary.

• 5:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so you're not wrong about that, but, but, but saying that all the church money is my money is, that's illegal-ish.

• 5:16Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 5:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 5:17Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 5:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, just a little on my board now. I see your relationship with scams here. It was like, you were like, yeah, no, the pastor came and did the, we did the offering. He get, he, we handed him the money. He put it in his pocket.

• 5:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, he put it right in his pocket. And when he would walk in for the sermon, he would jingle jangle because it was full of quarters.

• 5:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And that's fine.

• 5:34Speaker 04

  And that's, that's, you know, jingle jangle for the Lord.

• 5:36Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. Yeah. Technically, he is an employee of the Lord.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 5:40Laci Mosley?

  But the Lord does not pay his salary. We do.

• 5:43Speaker 04

  Yes, the Lord is not incorporated and thus cannot pay.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  These things make sense to me.

• 5:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, makes sense to me.

• 5:50Laci Mosley?

  But I mean, look, I've said it many times on this podcast, churches are tax exempt, so you know, I might have to get involved at some point. I think, I think I could really do a good job and really help the community.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  I think so.

• 6:00Laci Mosley?

  And I'm a part of the community, so I can help myself as well as a community member. Yes.

• 6:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:05Laci Mosley?

  Well, we always ask on this podcast, and Nicole, you kind of already had to jump the gun there sincerely, but what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you seen any recent scams? Have any been run on you? Have you run some that are past the statute of limitations? It could be anything. I get scammed. I...

• 6:24Laci Mosley?

  I'm too trusting. I recently got got because I was trying to book a hotel. Which that seems very simple. And I just had, I had to call them to like rearrange dates or something like that. And then they were like, okay, and now we're gonna transfer you. Like, everything was done. And I was like, transfer me? And they transferred me.

• 6:42Speaker 04

  Who else do you need to talk to?

• 6:43Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. I was like, who, who, who was on the line? Transfer me. And then this lady was like, hey, do you like vacations? And I was like, I mean, yeah, why are you talking to me? And I was like, I knew it was wrong. I was doubting myself the whole time and asking questions. And she was like, I mean, where do you like to go? And I was like, I don't know, Vegas? Why are you asking these questions? And she was like, darling, hold my hand. She was like, kept me on for a while.

• 7:08Laci Mosley?

  And then by the end, she was like, you know, we have locations in all these places. And, you know, if you sign up for this package and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I don't want to. How much is it?

• 7:19Laci Mosley?

  And it just kept going. And then by the end, I did sign up for it. And I told my girlfriend and she was like, I'll call them. And so she had, like my mom, she had to call and cancel and be like, she didn't know.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  So Sheer told me this story. And at the start of it, I was like, So Sheer? Because we went on vacation to Mexico. Do you remember they were trying to sell us timeshares? And you were like, this is actually a good deal. And I was like, no, no, it's not. You're never gonna go to this timeshare.

• 7:44Laci Mosley?

  I know. And I know in my heart, it's wrong, but I'm just like, I mean, that sounds like a deal. That sounds good.

• 7:49Speaker 04

  So Sheer was like, Nicole, they give you a free boombox. And I was like, girl, no, you can, you can afford a boombox.

• 7:55Laci Mosley?

  We can get a towel.

• 7:57Speaker 04

  You can afford a towel.

• 7:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but this is a free one. And they said, we had to sign up right now.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  It's so funny because it is easy to get you. But then it's not sometimes.

• 8:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 8:07Speaker 04

  We were in Africa and we got off a train and this man was like, we have a song for you. And I went, oh, okay. And I walked on over and I was like, So Sheer, wait, this man has a song for us. And she was like, girl, stop it. He wants your money. And I was like, oh, yes. I can get scammed very easily in person if you have a song on your heart. A dance in your soul. She supports the arts. Yes. I paid $500 for a pig painting in New Orleans that was, I would say, pretty poorly painted. And I said, how much? She said, $500. And I said, sold. And she went, what? And I went, yeah. She went, no. Okay. Like, even she was confused. She was like, you don't want to haggle? Yeah. You want to try? Take me down a little bit. But I still have it. It's my first piece of art. There's glitter on it. It's wild. It's one of the wildest things I own.

• 8:51Speaker 04

  But, let's see. Yeah, I'll run a scam. The scam I'm trying to run with this year is... So have you been to the Delta One Lounge? Of course. Lovely. Delightful. Yeah. Full, you can get a meal. Yeah, you get a meal. Now that they're starting to be stingy with the black people coming in, but, uh, but I always seem to make it. Well, if you have a Delta One ticket, you get in. Well, yeah, but, but, you know, sometimes they want to... Really? Well, I guess not in Delta One. I'm thinking of Delta Lounge. But Delta One, no. Well, Delta One's something like... I bought a bed, bitch. You better let me a bed. They let you in. Yeah. But... But I do love Delta One. No lined. Why don't we hang out there one day? Just spend a full day at the Delta Lounge. Get a massage. We buy a ticket. Oh, the massages are so good, I fell asleep.

• 9:35Speaker 04

  Exactly. I want to do this because it's technically free. If we buy a refundable Delta plane ticket one way, go to the Delta Lounge, cancel the ticket

• 9:49Speaker 04

  before the flight takes off, we are now in the lounge to enjoy all the amenities. Mm-hmm. Oh. And I would like to do this because I've done it before, but just not at the Delta Lounge. I bought a Delta ticket for me and this dude I was seeing so we could eat at the Guy Fieri Restaurant in the Burbank Airport. Wow. So I bought us a refundable ticket. We went through security. We were dressed in flames. We had a burger. They said our names over the loudspeaker. I called up Delta and I was like, oh no, we missed our flight. Can I just have that refunded back to my account? Not only was it refunded, it wasn't refunded back to my account. They gave me my money back. So it wasn't even like a credit. They just gave me my money back. Wow. Scams. I'm doing it. I'm doing it and I can't wait. I love this scam.

• 10:34Laci Mosley?

  That it was for Guy Fieri because the last time I had one of his burgers with the don quiches, I was definitely on a Carnival cruise or like a or a what's the bougie version of Carnival Royal Caribbean? And then they got some other.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  I simply don't know.

• 10:47Laci Mosley?

  My family loves to cruise and it was something that I really had to like fight them about. Like I was um on set one day and I got upset. I think I was in Atlanta shooting something and I was hanging out um with Lil Rel. And he was like, oh, my God, you fucking kidding me? And he was like, what's wrong? And I was like, my parents are trying to book another fucking cruise and telling me I gotta go on it. And then he was like, your family's trying to take you on a free vacation and you're angry? And I was like, no, you don't understand. You're trapped in the ocean with a bunch of Trump supporters, eating the saltiest food until your ankles swell. It is torture.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, I feel like a cruise is like Titanic. It's like they're taking what is what is this? The quote from Rose is how I think of it. I'm being take it back on. I don't know, whatever. I can't even think of the quote, but she's mad about getting on that boat and rightfully so.

• 11:32Laci Mosley?

  Rightfully so, as she should have been.

• 11:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I do want to be able to leave. Yeah, and you have to wait till you get to port and then you can miss the boat, but then you're on your own.

• 11:41Laci Mosley?

  And they will leave you. I almost got left one time, like literally the we were at Señor Frog's right next to the boat. And they were like, oh, señorita, ta bien, like the boat is gonna be here, like all of this. And we were like, I don't know. They're like, no, we work with the cruise. We work with the cruise.

• 11:55Speaker 04

  No, they sure don't.

• 11:57Laci Mosley?

  They said, give me my money. Talk about a scam. I was sprinting and it used to be like a bit that me and my family would like watch over the deck whenever we were about to leave a port because people always get left. And then you just see them running towards the ship and you laugh and laugh.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  That's wild.

• 12:13Laci Mosley?

  They were laughing at me.

• 12:15Speaker 04

  Here's another scam I like, stealing.

• 12:20Speaker 04

  As a crime.

• 12:22Laci Mosley?

  I mean, scams could technically be crimes.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  It's a light, it's a light. A light crime. Oh, yes. Uh, at the self-checkout because I don't work there.

• 12:29Laci Mosley?

  No, that's your wages.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  Buy one, take one. That's that's my deal for myself. I proudly hold what I've stolen and I dare you to say something because I lost my res- I don't. I don't know where the receipt went.

• 12:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  And nobody's gonna go over to where I was to try to find it because I've stuffed it in a crevice.

• 12:46Laci Mosley?

  And no one cares about hourly employment enough to do that anyway. Like, every now and then you'll meet a hater who wants to be like Robocop of the pavilions of the Walmart. Like, they really like here to fight crime.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:58Laci Mosley?

  But most part, they're just be like, hey, or they're like hitting on you. They stop you to be like, you look so beautiful. I'm like holding up my receipt, they're like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you good.

• 13:05Speaker 04

  We live different lives.

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  Please, you're gorgeous. I'm sure they'd stop you too, but you're just walking away the confidence.

• 13:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe my head is just held high and I'm like, I dare you. I dare you to stop me with my Maybelline mascara.

• 13:18Laci Mosley?

  Those are called wages, in my opinion. Like, I don't work there, and now I'm an employee? No, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm leaving with something, as Denzel famously said.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  No, I follow the rules. That scares me. You do love rules. Yeah. And I steal all around you. I know, and I don't like it. It stresses me out. I try to distance myself. I'm like, I don't want to be associated with this. I'm not going down with you. You wouldn't.

• 13:41Laci Mosley?

  Going down, like you're gonna accomplice?

• 13:43Speaker 04

  Exactly. Like, you knew? And I'm like, I did.

• 13:47Laci Mosley?

  No. Nicole is a chapstick and you're like, I saw her do it.

• 13:51Speaker 04

  I'll tell you something, I made my sister an accomplice once. I made her take a chapstick and then we used it in the car. My mother was like, where did you get that? And I was like, the store.

• 14:03Laci Mosley?

  So badass.

• 14:04Speaker 04

  Then she made us go back and apologize. You think I'd learn my lesson? Yeah. But I said, I'll never apologize again.

• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  That's what you took from it?

• 14:11Speaker 04

  That's the last time I ever apologize. I will steal. Maybe that's where I learned fear. Because I, when I was a child, someone had opened, like, put a little hole in like a cookie box at the grocery store. And I was like, to take a cookie? And I was like, I want a cookie too. And so I took a cookie out of there. And my mom saw me eating it, and she's like, where did that come from? And I was like, right here. And then she was like, you can't do that. Now I had to buy the bag. And then, like, I feel like a clerk or like someone who worked there in the aisle, she was like, you have to apologize to him. And I'm just apologizing to some like 17-year-old who doesn't care. They're like, okay. I was like, I'm sorry.

• 14:48Laci Mosley?

  I didn't mean to take the cookie. And then he's like, fine, that's, it's okay.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  That's so funny how punishment affects people differently.

• 14:55Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  Some people go, I'll follow the rules. And others are like, no. No.

• 15:00Laci Mosley?

  I'll get better.

• 15:01Speaker 04

  I'll get better at this, so I never have to apologize.

• 15:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Same. Like, sometimes you just need reform. Like, a lot of people go to prison, they become better criminals. You know what I mean? They get in there, they study, they meet other criminals. Like, they do hair notes.

• 15:13Speaker 04

  That's like that man who's still on the loose from New Orleans. Out of 10, one is still out there. And I'm rooting for him.

• 15:19Laci Mosley?

  I mean.

• 15:21Speaker 04

  Stay out there, King.

• 15:22Laci Mosley?

  I couldn't believe it was him that made it there. Because wasn't he the one with the face tats? Or was he the other one? Did they catch face tat? Because it was two that were still on the large. And one was light skinned, he had face tats. And then the other one was kind of like skinnier and like, no, it's not, it's not face tat. It's the other, the skinnier one. Yeah, because he had good sense. The rest of them was posted up on the block, over here getting fresh.

• 15:40Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 15:41Laci Mosley?

  Like, why are you over here getting hair braided?

• 15:43Speaker 04

  On Bourbon Street, taking a nap when he was found.

• 15:45Laci Mosley?

  That's really funny.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 15:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Listen, they saw a hole in the wall. They did not have any plans. They were just like, we have to leave.

• 15:53Speaker 04

  It's like, uh, Rumspringa for prison.

• 15:57Laci Mosley?

  That's how they should phrase this to the judge. I just want to try it.

• 16:00Speaker 04

  Just want to try it and see if we liked outside. We don't like outside.

• 16:02Laci Mosley?

  I'll come back. We love the jail, actually. We realize we love penance, yeah. So, no harm, no foul? Yeah? No, I love that.

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• 17:43Speaker 05

  Hello, hello. I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of Smart Talks with IBM. I spoke with IBM's Ana Paula Acees about what digital sovereignty actually means in the age of AI.

• 17:54Speaker 02

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• 18:18Laci Mosley?

  Well, let's get into our main event here, historic hoodwinkings. This is where I will regale Sachir and Nicole with the famous con caper group of criminals. We don't know. Unserious people, serious people have no idea. So at next year's Enhanced Games, which if you haven't heard of what Enhanced Games are, Nicole's nodding yes. It's very funny to me. It's an all-steroids, all-the-time version of the Olympics. Not only are the athletes using performance-enhancing drugs to cheat, the game themselves, they are also the scam to sell supplements. It's like it's just a scam to sell these supplements. So it's like the athletes are coming, they're cheating, it's a requirement. They test you for it.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  You've got to be juiced up.

• 19:03Laci Mosley?

  They test you for it and they're like, not enough. Yeah. We didn't get any steroids in your system. You need to leave.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  That's really funny. Like it. Yeah. That's fun. Also, I'm like intrigued, like, what can you do?

• 19:18Laci Mosley?

  Exactly.

• 19:19Speaker 04

  What can all these... Juiced up athletes do. Will we see a superhero be born? Yeah. Can you jump way higher than all the other Olympians? I would love to see this. How fast are they running? Can someone out-bile Simone? Mm-hmm.

• 19:32Laci Mosley?

  Ooh.

• 19:34Speaker 04

  I'm intrigued. So this has happened multiple times? No. Oh, this is the first time?

• 19:38Laci Mosley?

  That's why they're saying it's anticipatory, next year's enhanced games.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 19:42Laci Mosley?

  I also would love to see like the Olympics just have like, like in track, like there's two outer fields. And one is just like a regular guy running and the other one is like someone on roids. Just so we can see like the non-roided people in the middle. Like, how good are they?

• 19:55Speaker 04

  That's a fun scale. Like, this person tried so hard and they're on steroids. This person trained and then this is Bridget from accounting. We're just gonna see if she can run.

• 20:05Laci Mosley?

  And then they will really know how impressive they are.

• 20:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, definitely.

• 20:09Laci Mosley?

  I think we need that litmus test for more sports, because people get on the internet and start talking trash to athletes. And I'm like, you could not do anything that they do. Why are you commenting on their stats? Like, let's get you out there.

• 20:19Speaker 04

  My favorite is men who are like, oh, I could beat Serena Venus Williams. And I'm like, how on earth do you look at like these two women who are so muscular, who are so decorated? And go, I can do that? It's so dumb. That's nuts. I actually just saw a video, I guess it was an old video, of these like dudes playing against Serena Williams. It was five of them against just Serena Williams. And she was kicking their ass and it was, and she was just like laughing. She's like,

• 20:46Speaker 04

  and they were like falling, rolling over each other. I think I saw that, like, one ball hit a racket and his wrist like went back and he was like, oh! One ball hit a guy in the ass and he was like, oh my god!

• 20:55Laci Mosley?

  Now they're getting injured. They're like playing against one of those ball shooters, but it's Serena Williams.

• 21:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's Serena Williams. Yeah.

• 21:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness. Well, so the Olympics on steroids. Two years ago, Australian lawyer Aaron De Souza, and I wish I could say Aaron De Souza. I can't do an Australian accent other than LaserDisc. Aaron De Souza, yeah, something, nothing. Either of you?

• 21:20Speaker 04

  That sounds great. So Sher, do you think you could do an Australian? No, I don't. Alright, I won't press it. Fair enough. I also can't. R and R.

• 21:29Laci Mosley?

  It's very hard. It's one of the hardest. I don't know why, on my ear, it's just so hard. But so Aaron came out and said he was creating a new sporting event called the Enhanced Games, which he said would be like the Olympics, but performance-enhancing drugs and steroids were allowed and encouraged. Seems like demanded, but okay. Also, like, steroids are bad for your heart and your body.

• 21:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's bad for everything. Is there like, regulation on just like, how much can a human have? Like, is there anyone being like, you are having too much?

• 22:00Laci Mosley?

  I don't know.

• 22:02Speaker 04

  This is actually not, you can't compete? Like, we're actually worried you might, your heart might explode. Yeah, you might die. Yeah.

• 22:07Laci Mosley?

  I don't think they kicked you out for being over-served. It's not like a bar, I don't think. And this is the guy.

• 22:11Speaker 04

  But it should be.

• 22:11Laci Mosley?

  It should be. He doesn't even look like he's on roids.

• 22:14Speaker 04

  Well, we don't know. Let's see that body, yada, yada. Is that the lawyer?

• 22:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And then he's saying here, this is how you know he's a lawyer, he said, "This is not a doping."

• 22:23Speaker 04

  A doping. It's many dopings. It's multiple dopings. It is the dopinging.

• 22:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Not the doping. Listen, he's using specific language, because he's a lawyer, and so I'm not against that. He wants humanity to reach our full potential. And that's not gonna happen if organizations like the World Anti-Doping Agency doesn't allow the world's greatest athletes to get roided out on dangerous drugs.

• 22:47Speaker 04

  That does sound like Thanos, or like some supervillain. "I just want humanity to reach its full potential."

• 22:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And right now, we're not reaching it because we're not taking the roids.

• 22:57Speaker 04

  We're not on roids.

• 22:59Laci Mosley?

  Okay, look, I have asthma, so technically, I've taken some roids.

• 23:03Speaker 04

  You're enhanced.

• 23:04Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, you're enhanced. I'm enhanced, okay? I'm glad they weren't checking for that when I was running track, and I'd be like, "Huh, huh, huh." It was for the asthma, though.

• 23:12Speaker 04

  I think it's such a small amount that it wouldn't act. I think it's just-

• 23:15Laci Mosley?

  Not the way I do it.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  For your lungs. It powers you up. You're like, "Ah, ah, I'm juiced to run."

• 23:20Laci Mosley?

  I'm just hitting it like a vape can. They're like, "I don't think you need that." Much like no, no, no.

• 23:25Speaker 04

  No, I do.

• 23:25Laci Mosley?

  I'm having a flare. So the enhanced games are supposed to happen in 2026 and feature the 100 meter sprint, 100 meter hurdles, swimming events and weightlifting competitions where you really need the roid. In May, Aaron's company held an Apple-style launch event to announce the date and venue of their first ever enhanced games, and it's gonna be in Vegas, and it's gonna be at the least sketchy hotel in Vegas.

• 23:51Speaker 04

  The Golden Nugget?

• 23:52Laci Mosley?

  Resorts World.

• 23:55Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 23:56Laci Mosley?

  And if you don't remember, Mr. Beast had a experience.

• 24:00Speaker 04

  Who is Mr. Beast?

• 24:01Laci Mosley?

  He is a man.

• 24:02Speaker 04

  I've heard so much about this person, and I've seen his picture, but what does he do?

• 24:07Laci Mosley?

  Everything and nothing.

• 24:08Speaker 04

  Cause he like has a lot of money?

• 24:10Laci Mosley?

  So yeah, he has the most followers on YouTube. The last time I saw, he was at 414 million. I'm thinking he used to do stuff with animals.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  You fuck? Because, because of the beast?

• 24:22Laci Mosley?

  No, no, like.

• 24:23Speaker 04

  You said do stuff with animals?

• 24:24Laci Mosley?

  Oh my god, no, no.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  Heard it here first on Scam God.

• 24:27Laci Mosley?

  No, no, oh my god.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  Mr. Beast be fucking the animals.

• 24:30Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 24:33Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 24:33Speaker 04

  They call me Mr. Beast.

• 24:35Laci Mosley?

  Y'all are not gonna have me on TMZ again. I refute this. I refute this. No, no, but, but he like, he raises money and then he, he builds stuff in Africa, in the villages.

• 24:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I seen him do good stuff. He like does like good pranks?

• 24:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he does pranks.

• 24:53Speaker 04

  He gives people money?

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, sometimes he's like, for a million dollars or whatever, can you live in this grocery store for a month with no technology and alone?

• 25:02Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 25:03Laci Mosley?

  Kind of in the dark, you know, he's like, put all these people in a room and see what happens. So like social experiments and stuff too. And he recently had the Beast Games, which performed really well on Amazon, where he got like thousands of people together and made them like compete for money, but they would like lose and like, it was almost like kinda Squid Game-esque. Like there was no violence, but it was like, they played one game where they had to build something with blocks, like a kid's game, and then if you lost, the floor dropped out from you.

• 25:27Speaker 04

  We are really headed towards a real life Hunger Games, and I think that's really depressing.

• 25:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:34Laci Mosley?

  We might already be there. Y'all gotta get to hell.

• 25:37Speaker 04

  No, I'm not volunteering as trivia.

• 25:39Laci Mosley?

  No, absolutely not. I would be way in the back. They're gonna need comedians during the Hunger Games, so we like, so y'all still hungry out there? Or what? The one thing that I hate about somebody from the Capitol.

• 25:56Laci Mosley?

  You know when you be from the Capitol?

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  Capitol people are like. Everybody in District like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all know what I'm saying? Hamburger, but not for y'all, 'cause you're starving.

• 26:10Speaker 04

  Not in District 12, okay? Okay?

• 26:13Laci Mosley?

  We know y'all ain't eating. In District 7, we got a crack or something, but y'all down bad.

• 26:19Speaker 04

  Not hamburger.

• 26:24Laci Mosley?

  Okay, look, shout out, look, y'all remember that when they come for us, okay? We'll be in the back doing USO.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  Entertaining, valuable.

• 26:31Laci Mosley?

  Okay, joy is important when we're in the wars, okay? Just remember that.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  Oh, boy.

• 26:37Laci Mosley?

  So, the Las Vegas Hotel and Casino Complex Resorts World, previously the site of several scams, including the Mr. Beast Experience, where people, like, people love Mr. Beast. That's why I'm like, the Beastie girlies don't come for me, okay? Y'all, I don't got nothing bad to say about that man, I don't know him. But the Mr. Beast Experience, basically, they had people come, they paid a more inflated rate for hotel tickets at Resorts World, and they were supposed to get immersive experiences like ones that Mr. Beast creates, and there was supposed to be a Mr. Beast pool party. I think that some people were told that he was gonna come and beast, that he was gonna beast there.

• 27:14Laci Mosley?

  He's supposed to have, like, exclusive merch for everybody in their hotel rooms. And all they ended up getting was, like, some chocolate, 'cause he has a chocolate out now. And I actually did pick it up once by accident, 'cause it's got a very, like, light blue teal label, and I was like, this looks new and fun? And then I was like, what, and I was like, nah! It was like a jump scare when I read the package when I got home. But, you know, I ate on it a little bit.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  Okay, you nibbled.

• 27:35Laci Mosley?

  It was a crunch bar.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  It's so wild when things happen and I just miss them, like. I have not even, yeah.

• 27:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they're called Feastables. Feastables. Yeah, he also had a Lunchable that was healthy, but then the Lunchable started to get rotten. But anyways, so, like, Resorts World hosts a lot of, like, kinda sketchy events. And so we keep finding Resorts Worlds at the center of scams in Las Vegas, which is curious. Maybe it has nothing to do with Resorts World. Maybe. So this is where the steroid games are gonna be taking place in May of 2026. Sports and health experts alike say, this is a bad idea.

• 28:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, you don't say.

• 28:17Laci Mosley?

  I was shocked when they said that, cuz I thought it was a good idea.

• 28:20Speaker 04

  It was a perfect idea.

• 28:22Laci Mosley?

  Immediately, I was like, great idea? Get people on drugs and make them do physical activities?

• 28:29Speaker 04

  But it is a drug for physical activities.

• 28:31Laci Mosley?

  This is true.

• 28:32Speaker 04

  It's not like the crackhead games, although I would like to see that.

• 28:36Laci Mosley?

  Okay, cuz the strength of crackheads and the lifelongevity? I really feel like you gotta have like a window washing competition, like all types of scaling a building.

• 28:44Speaker 04

  How quickly you can hook up this flat screen?

• 28:46Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  Or take it down?

• 28:49Laci Mosley?

  How many VCRs can you take? Can you carry? You know, yes, these are things that could be done. Um, so his villain origin story, now we're going back to the Australian lawyer, Aaron. In 2009, Aaron was a first-year lawyer, like law student, at Oxford, with nothing particularly exciting going on. He was just at Oxford, which is a great school. Then he met billionaire Peter Thiel, the co-founder of PayPal and business partner of the one Lotte Musk.

• 29:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Peter Thiel, notoriously good guy that everyone loves and everyone thinks he's great for the country. Um, obviously, I'm not being sincere. So Aaron and Thiel became best friends quickly, partly because Aaron gave Peter a plan to take revenge on Gawker Media. So Peter hated Gawker because they outed him as gay in 2007. I'm on Peter's side with that one. The title says Peter Thiel.

• 29:50Speaker 04

  It's totally gay people. Honestly, iconic.

• 29:56Laci Mosley?

  Honic.

• 29:57Speaker 04

  Is that like from Mean Girls? It feels very.

• 29:59Laci Mosley?

  It's from Mean Girls. They used like a high school photo of this man. Why is the Gawker like headline all in like in the rainbow? Why would they do this?

• 30:09Speaker 04

  That's a drive it home.

• 30:10Laci Mosley?

  Wild.

• 30:10Speaker 04

  Ay ay ay.

• 30:12Laci Mosley?

  They are very unserious for this and and also like, come on now Gawker. This is, this is wild, but at the same time also hilarious. If we're gonna be outed, like at least it was.

• 30:21Speaker 04

  It's in the funniest way. I don't support outing people, but this is the funniest way to be. If I was outed that way, I would be like, well, I mean, that's funny.

• 30:30Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  Totally gay people.

• 30:33Laci Mosley?

  Like, dude, I don't even know how mad I can be about that. Okay, but so obviously Peter does not fuck with Gawker. Then there was the Hulk Hogan sex tape.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  I do remember that.

• 30:45Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So Aaron outlined a plan to secretly fund wrestler Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker, which had published a sex tape without Hogan's consent.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  Gawker was in everybody's business. God damn.

• 30:58Laci Mosley?

  We were.

• 30:58Speaker 04

  That's wild.

• 30:59Laci Mosley?

  And I just know Hulk Hogan is looking up right now.

• 31:02Speaker 04

  For a minute, watching Hulk Hogan have sex in a cannibal bed is not safe for work, but watch it anyway. They were sassy over there at Gawker. That's funny.

• 31:10Laci Mosley?

  They were wild. And look, they said gawk at it. They were giving us things to gawk at. So far I've been gawking.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  That room looks dirty. Oh, no, that's Hulk Hogan. I thought that was cluttered.

• 31:19Laci Mosley?

  No, no.

• 31:20Speaker 04

  That's really funny.

• 31:21Laci Mosley?

  That's a person. A person debatable. Um, but yeah, that is him. Yeah, I don't, I would never even want to see Hulk Hogan do sex to someone. That feels like a punishment, Gawker.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  Disgusting. Also, I know he's dead and.

• 31:34Laci Mosley?

  But he was a terrible man.

• 31:35Speaker 04

  I don't really give a shit, but I just, there's no amount of money that you could pay me to fuck that.

• 31:43Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 31:43Speaker 04

  That man is very ugly to me.

• 31:46Laci Mosley?

  He's ugly inside and out, and he probably called you all types of river cones and stuff, because he was very racist.

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Very creative. Is that an honor? Isn't that, was that the tape or was it a different tape where he like got, they found out he was saying like all these slurs and stuff?

• 32:00Laci Mosley?

  It was a different tape where he was talking about his daughter Brooke Hogan, who at this time was trying to make a pop career. And, um, and he was talking about, well, if she's gonna fuck a N word, like then he need to be rich and an eight foot tall basketball player. You know, I hate the nigga. Everybody's a little bit racist. Like, it was very, yeah.

• 32:17Speaker 04

  That's tough.

• 32:18Laci Mosley?

  I mean, he lived in Clearwater, Florida till he died. And shout out to Clearwater, Florida. We know what you are.

• 32:26Speaker 04

  But that's the lady in the sex tape?

• 32:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and like, why, at least they gave her a better photo when they posted. But, but also, you shouldn't be posting people's sex tapes. And you really shouldn't be posting Hulk Hogan's, like, because why would you do that to the community? Why would you do that to all of us? We're hurt. I'm more hurt than him. I also would like some 10 million. But for all my writer friends who write for Gawker, like, I'm so sorry to see y'all have to go down like this. It took multiple years and $10 million of secretly funding the lawsuit, but Peter Thiel and won, and Gawker folded in 2016, so they did get rid of Gawker. They sued him under the ground. They sued him.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, not to, like, victim blame, but if you're going after someone with that, who created PayPal, who has that much money?

• 33:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 33:12Speaker 04

  I mean, that's kind of wild.

• 33:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I feel like they would've got away with Totally Gay, but Aaron was the one who was like, oh, if we get Hulk Hogan involved with this, like, legal case of the explicit sex tape, which is illegal, then we really have a case. I feel like Totally Gay wasn't enough, though. The judge was like, get out of here.

• 33:30Speaker 04

  Like, well, you are, so.

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  I'm looking at you, so.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  What's the argument?

• 33:34Laci Mosley?

  But did they lie, though?

• 33:37Laci Mosley?

  The judge is Judge Judy, he's like, did they lie, though? Did they lie? And, so, yeah, no, they needed the strength of Hulk's creepy tape that haunts the internet, I'm sure, somewhere. So, in the sex tape, Hulk Hogan is doing it with his friend and radio personality, Bubba the Love Sponge's wife, Heather Cole. But Bubba, I'm sorry.

• 33:59Speaker 04

  What?

• 33:59Laci Mosley?

  That was like, Bubba the Love Sponge.

• 34:04Speaker 04

  Bubba the Love Sponge's wife?

• 34:08Laci Mosley?

  And Heather Cole, that was that lady.

• 34:10Speaker 04

  Bubba the Love Sponge? You know, I'm not surprised that's Bubba the Love Sponge.

• 34:16Laci Mosley?

  And, look, it says Playboy TV in the back, so he's at a love event, or a sex event.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's no love there. A love sponge?

• 34:24Laci Mosley?

  He's there to sponge it up.

• 34:26Speaker 04

  He's sopping up the cum?

• 34:26Laci Mosley?

  No!

• 34:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, he's sopping up the love, the love.

• 34:31Speaker 04

  He's just sopping it up.

• 34:33Laci Mosley?

  He's not a giver. He's not gonna eat nobody out. No, he's just sopping. It was Bubba the Love Sponge's wife, Heather Cole, who was featured in the Hulk tape. But Bubba was the one who actually directed the video of his wife with the, with that man. Like, oh, brother. The whole time, he's just like, oh, brother. Brother, brother. No, that's terrible.

• 34:58Speaker 04

  Interesting. This is awful. Yeah. I came here for a nice time. Yeah, I'm like. I was told we were gonna talk about. I feel dirty.

• 35:06Laci Mosley?

  We're gonna get out of it. We're getting back to it.

• 35:09Speaker 04

  And you said, let's talk about this nasty, shriveled, now dead, raisin looking man.

• 35:15Laci Mosley?

  We're moving on.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  Fucking bubba the love sponge's wife going, oh, brother. That's nasty.

• 35:20Laci Mosley?

  It's just a part of the lore.

• 35:21Speaker 04

  I started today really nice. I had some eggs. I had, I had a lavender frappuccino from Starbucks. Ooh. Crazy. It's purple. That's the only reason why I ordered it. Started my day nice with egg soubed bites, a lavender frappuccino. Didn't drink it all. Wanted to save some for later, but it's not in the refrigerator, so I can't drink it.

• 35:41Laci Mosley?

  I'm sorry about that.

• 35:42Speaker 04

  I'm sorry about that. This is horse shit.

• 35:43Laci Mosley?

  I'm so, I'm so sorry.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  My god.

• 35:46Laci Mosley?

  So sorry. Look, we're gonna get it back on track, guys, okay? Robbery.

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• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  So Aaron also happens to be gay. That's just a coincidence. I don't know. We're just throwing it in there. Wait, who? The lawyer. The lawyer. Oh, OK. But he didn't help Peter deal out of queer camaraderie. He wasn't like, come here, like, you know, sis, we're gonna take him down. It was just a way for him to make his mark, according to one quote. So he was just helping Peter because Peter obviously had PayPal and he was like trying to get paid by Pal or with Pal, near Pal. So the enhanced games. We're back on track, OK? We just had to take a little detour. We're back to Nicole, I'm sorry.

• 39:18Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 39:19Laci Mosley?

  So Aaron was obviously an ideas man and had lots of ideas after the Hulk Hogan sex tape lawsuit. He worked as a diplomat, venture capitalist, philanthropist, and etc. Until 2022, when he got the idea for the enhanced game. So you know how you go from like being a diplomat to being a VC, to being a philanthropist, to then making steroids games in Vegas. Cause it's our natural segue.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  Natural progression.

• 39:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes. He devils. He devils, okay? He's a serial entrepreneur. That's what I call some scammers. So he didn't get the idea out of nowhere. He actually stole it.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  Oh. That's wild that more than one person had this thought.

• 40:01Speaker 04

  It would never cross my mind to be like, let's juice everybody and make them run.

• 40:05Laci Mosley?

  Wild. I feel like watching the Olympics, I would be like, hmm, what if they were all on it?

• 40:10Speaker 04

  No, my thing is I want to see normal people try to do the same thing.

• 40:14Laci Mosley?

  Same, same. I want to see normal people try to get their butt over the pole. You know what I mean? And just see it fail categorically. That's what I need to see. So he actually stole it from a 2004 issue of Wired magazine called "Steroids for Everyone", that outlined the case for enhanced Olympics using almost exactly the same argument. Is this like, people are gonna use steroids anyway, let's just give steroids out for everyone. You get a roid, you get a roid. So the article said, "Public attitudes towards steroids were starting to shift after years of stigma", okay? So following their muses by athletes and state sponsorship regimes in the 80s and 90s, people might now be open to doping. They were like, you know what? Give them the dope and let's see what's gonna happen. Like you said earlier, Nicole, like, I know that you're not a proponent of the steroids,

• 40:59Laci Mosley?

  but it would be interesting to see what happens.

• 41:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's see what happens.

• 41:03Laci Mosley?

  So Aaron was spending every New Year's Eve with Peter Thiel in friend group. I'm calling Thiel, that's how it reads. I know it's Thiel, but I don't care about that man. So on New Year's, he mentioned this new idea and Peter liked it. I mean, Peter has PayPal money. What else is he gonna do? Yeah, truly, have a nice time.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  I'll throw this, throw my money at this thing.

• 41:21Laci Mosley?

  Right, why not? I feel like once you're that rich, it's like you're at the casino when it comes to like startups. She's like, pull it here, pull it there, put a little something on you. So Aaron tried pitching it to investors, including notable sports cheater and testicular cancer survivor Lance Armstrong. Oh, but, but don't bring him in this.

• 41:40Speaker 04

  Why not? He was on steroids, winning with his Livestrong bracelet.

• 41:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, we all had a Livestrong bracelet.

• 41:47Speaker 04

  That was fun.

• 41:49Laci Mosley?

  He had a piece of plastic on everybody's wrist, bro.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  While he was secretly doping. But how did he like, keep it hidden for so long? That's the wildest part.

• 41:59Laci Mosley?

  I think maybe the cancer a little bit, because he was a cancer survivor. I feel like of testicular cancer, maybe he was getting tested and they were like, oh, we're seeing some roids. And we're like, uh-uh, no, that was, that was residual chemo.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, interesting.

• 42:12Laci Mosley?

  Or it might have been that he was like in remission. He's Lance Armstrong, so maybe he could find a way to get the pee in. And, and it's not his. I'm sure when you're that famous and rich, they can put something warm on your leg and you just like push it or something. Maybe.

• 42:27Speaker 04

  Maybe, probably.

• 42:28Laci Mosley?

  And then some clean pee comes out.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  There are things that you can use to pee clean.

• 42:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he gets like, he puts in a catheter real quick or something. I don't know.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  Lord.

• 42:37Laci Mosley?

  I mean, for that amount of money, you know.

• 42:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, do you.

• 42:40Laci Mosley?

  So, but I hate that his now name is like notable sports cheater.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  I know. You do one wrong thing.

• 42:47Laci Mosley?

  You do one, you do one roid. One little roid. For his whole career. Now I'm notable sports cheater.

• 42:54Speaker 04

  From all his like medals and titles and stuff?

• 42:57Laci Mosley?

  Well, he won the Tour de France seven consecutive times and he was stripped of all the titles after an investigation.

• 43:05Laci Mosley?

  Found that he had been using illegal performance enhancing drugs that increased red blood cell production. He is currently banned for life from all bicycling. He can't ride any bicycles.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  He can't go to Santa Monica and ride a bike.

• 43:16Laci Mosley?

  The city bike declining. He swiped the car, they're like, Lance, is that you?

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Sorry Lance, wait a minute.

• 43:22Laci Mosley?

  You can never be on two wheels again Lance.

• 43:26Speaker 04

  But that is so depressing for the people who were second those seven times. Because they never got like a ceremony. They should have had a ceremony and been like, gather round. He stripped, you're number one, you're number two, and now guy that no one...

• 43:40Laci Mosley?

  And talked about you're number three.

• 43:42Speaker 04

  Yeah. They should have done that.

• 43:44Laci Mosley?

  I mean, they still lost technically in my eyes. What, he had some extra red blood like?

• 43:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was cheating. So you love the enhanced games. Yes. You're pro enhanced games.

• 43:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm just pro Lance Armstrong, winning seven Tour de France's back to back and us just believing the lore. Okay, what good does it do for us to know that Bobby what's-his-face actually was third? We don't give a fuck about Bobby.

• 44:09Speaker 04

  But Bobby's at home saying, if only people knew.

• 44:13Laci Mosley?

  And we know now and we still don't give a fuck about Bobby. Nobody called Bobby.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  I want to know what Bobby's up to. Yeah.

• 44:22Laci Mosley?

  So even Lance said no to Aaron's ideas, even though he did steroids, but he was like, no. But it was an opportunity for him to rebrand. He could have owned it.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  But like, that's not a good rebrand.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  I'm a bad guy. I feel like anytime that happens, it's like, ew.

• 44:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but that's because they go to 4chan. He would just be rebranded to like, I did steroids, they were delicious.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Yum, yum, yum. Mine were cherry flavored.

• 44:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so maybe not so bad.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  I like that he didn't. I like that he was like, you know, I'm gonna sit this one out.

• 44:54Laci Mosley?

  He took his lumps. And I kind of appreciate, yeah, he stood in his business. I hope they didn't take his money away. I'm sure they didn't.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  Do you think he like rides around like a bike on his estate? Do you think he still rides a bike or he like opens a door to a room with just one bike in it? Cries.

• 45:10Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes it's just next to it with a bottle of bourbon, just spinning the wheels.

• 45:14Speaker 04

  How do we get to Lance Armstrong? I'd like to know.

• 45:16Laci Mosley?

  So because Lance was gonna be an investor in the steroid games, but Lance said absolutely not. So that's how we got to him. So we're back on track. So Lance said no to Aaron's idea. That's the lawyer. So Aaron launched a website for the enhanced games by himself, posting a 34 second stock footage clip of a sprinter in the blocks. With a voiceover declaring that he was the fastest man in the world and a proud enhanced athlete. Now they got a brand. They're enhanced.

• 45:45Laci Mosley?

  He's a proud enhanced athlete. That got investors interested. Investors love the video, including Christian Ong, I cannot say this name, Christian Ongemeyer. Christian Ongermeier. There we go. A German Ongermeier. There we go. A German biotech billionaire who came on board as a co-founder. We know Germany's gonna get involved. Y'all said steroids, they should wear.

• 46:11Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Taunton? Yes, Taylor Taunton. Yeah, so neither Peter Thiel, Aaron, nor Christian are huge sports fans. They were like, "We're three gay guys," Aaron says. But they're all focused on being rich, so they have that in common.

• 46:25Speaker 04

  Wait, that was said by one of them on the record?

• 46:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 46:27Speaker 04

  "We three gays are interested in making the money."

• 46:30Laci Mosley?

  "We're three gay guys and we're interested in making money."

• 46:32Speaker 04

  Well, you know what? That's honesty for you.

• 46:34Laci Mosley?

  Right?

• 46:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Enhance Games at Pride?

• 46:39Laci Mosley?

  I hope not.

• 46:39Speaker 04

  I mean, cringe, cringe, cringe. Why not? A Pride Enhance Games?

• 46:44Laci Mosley?

  Sure. I think that's what we already have in WeHo. So Enhance Games also got millions of dollars in investment from Donald Trump Jr.'s

• 46:54Laci Mosley?

  Donald Trump Jr.'s 1789 Capital, that's what his company's called. And they got praise from thought leader Joe Rogan.

• 47:02Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 47:03Laci Mosley?

  I can see that. So these endorsements sound really good. We got the Trumps involved, we got Joe Rogan, famously told people to take ivermectin. So he definitely knows what to put in your body. Yes, this is all seeming legit. So the pros of the Enhance Games are pretty limited. But they will pay athletes, which is a problem in the regular Olympics. That's true. They don't get paid.

• 47:28Speaker 04

  But they do, don't they? Don't they get stipends or something?

• 47:30Laci Mosley?

  59% of US Olympians make less than $25,000 in an Olympic year.

• 47:35Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 47:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 47:37Speaker 04

  Dang.

• 47:38Laci Mosley?

  And the Enhance Games offer athletes an appearance fee and rank-based prize money. Athletes who break the official world records are also in line to claim $250,000 or higher if it's a worthwhile publicity stunt. You make it exciting.

• 47:53Speaker 04

  If you don't die jumping off this building, you can stand to make a big old chunk of change.

• 47:59Laci Mosley?

  If your thighs don't explode in front of our eyes.

• 48:01Speaker 04

  If your thighs don't explode.

• 48:03Laci Mosley?

  In front of our eyes.

• 48:03Speaker 04

  If your bones stay in your body, you can make money.

• 48:08Laci Mosley?

  And obviously, like, these are not good ideas, right? Like, doctors, definitely not for it. The worry about premature aging that might happen to people when they come off drugs. And others think that the event might cause steroid use to spread, first throughout the sport, then through society at large. Because you know, like, the kids are on the internet and they don't got no media literacy. So they might start, you know.

• 48:31Speaker 04

  And that's exactly what we need. Illiterate people with anger management problems who think they're entitled to everything on steroids.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  I think this is the pipeline to a utopia.

• 48:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, no, the site is gonna be great.

• 48:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:46Laci Mosley?

  Not scarier at all.

• 48:48Speaker 04

  I feel safe. Yeah.

• 48:49Laci Mosley?

  You feel safe?

• 48:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 48:52Laci Mosley?

  Okay, but Nicole, what if they come up to you and they say like, we wanna do a little lift for you? We have a lift for you.

• 48:57Speaker 04

  A lift?

• 48:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like they had a song for you in Africa, like these people have like a lift they wanna do for you.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  They're gonna show you a lift?

• 49:03Laci Mosley?

  They're gonna show you a lift.

• 49:03Speaker 04

  Oh, I was like, a lift? A ski lift? Am I being taken? I was like, well, it depends on where I'm going. Sure, I mean, it depends. It depends on where I am. If I'm on the streets of Las Vegas and someone's like, do you wanna see me lift a bunch of weight? I'd probably be like, okay, yes.

• 49:22Laci Mosley?

  Sure.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  But then if I was like, I'm on steroids, I'd be like, ah, maybe I'm not into this, I don't know. I don't know.

• 49:28Laci Mosley?

  They may not tell you, though. They may not be like, I'm on steroids, hello.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  They might not know.

• 49:33Laci Mosley?

  That's not opening to the bitch. Yeah, so this was all kind of, you know, up in the air because obviously this is not like a good thing to do. The enhanced games have no official sponsors, no. Shocking.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  Wow, Gatorade doesn't wanna get in on that?

• 49:48Laci Mosley?

  No, right now they don't. They're going like Gatorade now with a little bit of Royd. Gator Royd.

• 49:54Speaker 04

  This would be a perfect opportunity for Powerade.

• 49:56Laci Mosley?

  Power.

• 49:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:59Laci Mosley?

  We're Royd. Sounds like more of a prime thing to me.

• 50:01Speaker 04

  What's prime? What's prime?

• 50:03Laci Mosley?

  That's Logan Paul's.

• 50:06Laci Mosley?

  Prime, for those of you who know that, who that little man is.

• 50:09Speaker 04

  The little man.

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  So US Swimming even sent a letter to athletes warning them against competing. The worldwide aquatics and the athletes would still be banned for joining the enhanced games, even if they competed without taking drugs. So they said, don't you take your ass over there.

• 50:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, don't even. Yeah, don't even be tempted. Don't be associated.

• 50:26Laci Mosley?

  Don't think about it.

• 50:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:28Laci Mosley?

  So currently, let's see some notable athletes. Currently, only four swimmers have signed up publicly to compete in the enhanced games. Australian swimmer James Magnuson, who's retired from swimming in 2019, but on a sports podcast, he said, if they put up a million dollars for the free meter freestyle world record, I'd come on board as their first athlete. I'll juice to the grills and break the world record within six months.

• 50:53Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 50:54Laci Mosley?

  Yup, juice to the gills.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  Juice to the gills. I like to the grills. That's what I really liked. I was like, oh, okay.

• 51:01Laci Mosley?

  He say he gonna juice so hard at swimming, he gonna become a fish.

• 51:05Speaker 04

  It's really funny. All the pictures of the people you've shown, no one has surprised me. I believe that man said that.

• 51:11Laci Mosley?

  He looks like a guy who would say that his hair, like, how do you have, like, he must have got to be glued to that. Because how are you just swimming and your hair is still standing up straight? Like, what is happening?

• 51:21Speaker 04

  Like a Backstreet Boy. Yes, very that.

• 51:23Laci Mosley?

  What kind of pomade do you have in there, sir?

• 51:25Speaker 04

  It's got to be.

• 51:26Laci Mosley?

  It has to be got to be. It's got to be, got to be.

• 51:28Speaker 04

  Got to be, got to be.

• 51:30Laci Mosley?

  That was a free ad for you, got to be. So, Aaron agreed to the million dollar prize and James started the protocol of training slash injecting. So James is on the protocol. He's getting ready for 2026.

• 51:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:44Laci Mosley?

  Heck. So he's taking testosterone to boost muscle mass and bone density, peptides. I feel like I shouldn't be reading out what these things are so that y'all can go Google them and get on them. But I don't know. I heard some celebrities take a certain, like, um, like, GHB. Or no, that's, that's, they do take that, but that's not the thing I'm talking about.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  You're talking about human growth hormone.

• 52:04Laci Mosley?

  Human growth hormone. There we go. The, the other thing is not what I'm talking about. HGB.

• 52:09Speaker 04

  HG, human growth, HG.

• 52:13Laci Mosley?

  HGH.

• 52:16Speaker 04

  I just really shut down. HGH, HG, HGTV.

• 52:26Laci Mosley?

  No, we're all there. We're all struggling right there with you.

• 52:29Speaker 04

  I thought a little too hard and almost died.

• 52:33Laci Mosley?

  Well, yes, so they, they, you know, some people take, take a little enhancement. So the Australian man, who notoriously is gay and must let us know, Aaron, he moved to LA to do it because Australian pools banned him from training. So he moved James to LA. James put on 30 pounds of muscle, which was actually not helpful for a swimmer, as it turns out.

• 52:55Speaker 04

  He sank to the bottom. Funny.

• 52:57Laci Mosley?

  Here's him before and after. So we have before he started the, oh!

• 53:01Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 53:01Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God!

• 53:03Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 53:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh!

• 53:05Speaker 04

  He's a little lollipop.

• 53:06Laci Mosley?

  His muscles have muscles. This is like a reverse BBL. Like, you've got a BBL on, on your upper back.

• 53:12Speaker 04

  I am blown away.

• 53:14Laci Mosley?

  How can I?

• 53:15Speaker 04

  I see the back of your chest from the front, sir. It's like a stretch Armstrong. Yes, and he probably has a hard time moving his arms to fucking swim. Look at that neck. It's just straight, just straight down. He looks like a thumb. Mm hmm. Yes. Yeah. Looks like he has titties on his back. Yes. Like a lot of them. Yeah, he's got back breasts and, and, oh no. Wow. I'm blown away.

• 53:42Laci Mosley?

  I, I did not think I could be as shocked as I am. So we will put that on the Instagram because it is a jump scare. This man, he does not, he looks like the Hulk. He looks like he's gonna be like Hulk smash, not like water smash. Like, how is he gonna be swimming?

• 53:57Speaker 04

  He won't.

• 53:57Laci Mosley?

  By the time he gets to the end of the pool, all the water gonna be out.

• 54:00Speaker 04

  Truly.

• 54:01Laci Mosley?

  Just pounding it, just every, every, every stroke is a cannonball. What?

• 54:06Speaker 04

  He also looks dumber. Yeah, his mouth open. Yeah, he went from closed mouth, eye contact to. No. Like, is your mouth on the Roy's too? The can close lips. Is he married? I'm worried about his partner.

• 54:21Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. I hope not, I really hope not.

• 54:25Speaker 04

  I would also really like to see what the bottom of him looks like. It's the same, the swimmer legs. Yeah, the middle part looks normal.

• 54:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it really does look like his waist is still snatched like the original photo. It's just all up top.

• 54:38Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 54:38Laci Mosley?

  It was never leg day.

• 54:40Speaker 04

  And do we have a time for him? Has it improved?

• 54:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, we don't know if his time has improved. We just know that his body has drastically changed. And there's another former Olympic swimmer, thirty, thirty swimmer, thirty-one-year-old Greek Bougeron. Um, he finished fifth in the fifty-meter freestyle event in Paris Olympics in twenty twenty-four. Did break the record, um, but he was on a better cocktail of drugs. And his new world record won't be officially registered due to those drugs. So this is somebody who did beat the record, but now he's disgraced because of the drugs.

• 55:12Speaker 04

  Enhanced.

• 55:13Laci Mosley?

  So now he signed up for a man. I mean, why?

• 55:16Speaker 04

  He looks so sad, though. He's like, was it worth it?

• 55:19Laci Mosley?

  I don't think it was. So wrapping this up here.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 55:24Laci Mosley?

  At the end of twenty twenty-four, Aaron held a conference in Oxford on human enhancement. So he took it back to the UK. He's holding, he's holding conferences.

• 55:32Speaker 04

  Went to his alma mater.

• 55:33Laci Mosley?

  Apple events. So the speakers and supporters at the meeting signed the first declaration on human enhancement. So you heard of John Hancock.

• 55:47Laci Mosley?

  We're taking it further. And look, this is such a enhancement looking photo. That's technology.

• 55:53Speaker 04

  They've ascended.

• 55:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I guess so.

• 55:55Speaker 04

  To their peak performance.

• 55:57Laci Mosley?

  Doesn't that feel very technological to you?

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Sure. Yeah, or like enlightened. Yeah, he's like using his beautiful, human potential.

• 56:06Laci Mosley?

  It's kind of giving me like advert for a cult.

• 56:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 56:10Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 56:10Laci Mosley?

  I know what I'm walking into.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:12Laci Mosley?

  So the 39 people who signed this, they got 39 people at the conference.

• 56:17Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:18Laci Mosley?

  I feel like I can get more emails outside of Walmart. But the 39 people who signed it, including Brian Johnson, the tech millionaire, who is trying to never die.

• 56:28Speaker 04

  I love him. Oh, yes. He's fun.

• 56:30Laci Mosley?

  He looks like a stat.

• 56:31Speaker 04

  And sicker every time I see him.

• 56:34Laci Mosley?

  Like, I just don't understand how trying to never die made you look like a daywalker.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  I don't know. I don't know.

• 56:41Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you might be making yourself die, sir.

• 56:43Speaker 04

  Probably. Yeah. I was like, why do you want to live forever? It's not getting better.

• 56:47Laci Mosley?

  It's not. It's really not great.

• 56:49Speaker 04

  When I'm out, I'm out. Oh, my God, bring it on. Take me out.

• 56:54Laci Mosley?

  Somebody was talking about NASA seeing some unidentified, maybe like aggressive alien, like, uh, life forces in the universe. And everybody was like, well, tell them to hurry up.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  Yes, take me.

• 57:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, damn, yeah, beat me up. Where are we going?

• 57:07Speaker 04

  I feel like Erykah Badu sometimes, there's a, she like has a video where she's like, I've been so weird because I want them to take me. I don't know what more I need to do for them to come take me. And that's how I feel. I feel like I'm like kind of weird. Come take me. I'll make you laugh up there.

• 57:22Laci Mosley?

  Yes. We will take the Hunger Games routine.

• 57:26Speaker 04

  Right up to them.

• 57:27Laci Mosley?

  Up to them.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  Will they understand it? No.

• 57:29Laci Mosley?

  Okay. But like aliens from Sector 7 be like, boo boo, blah blah, please, Lord. Okay. No, but so. There were longevity doctors who signed it, enhanced staff members. Now, if I worked there, why I gotta sign it? That don't count.

• 57:43Speaker 04

  No. It's like a birthday card. They're like, everyone in the break room. That's so funny. Yeah, just sign it and you can have a piece of cake.

• 57:51Laci Mosley?

  Don't worry about it what it's for. Yeah. You only get the cake when you sign it. And the cake has steroids.

• 57:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh goodness, so he also got bodybuilding influencer, Mr. Virago Steve. Um, I think we have a photo of Virago Steve. That's him and he signed it because he definitely is not on any enhancements. Those grapefruits that he's smuggling in his legs are definitely his calves and nothing else. Um, but yeah, so these people who look very smart and sane and with it, they all signed, the 39 people, we're gonna, in the future, we'll call them the 39.

• 58:28Speaker 04

  The 39.

• 58:29Laci Mosley?

  Who started it all.

• 58:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:31Laci Mosley?

  And so Aaron is also announcing the launch of Enhanced Performance Products, which sounds to me like penis pills. But, um, in this case, it's TRT. It's a new line of supplements inspired by the ones athletes will be taking to prepare for the games.

• 58:45Speaker 04

  Inspired?

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Not if I want a drug.

• 58:48Speaker 04

  Inspired? So what, it's a pill that you take that's not a steroid, but you, it's like, it feels like a steroid. It's like a placebo.

• 58:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I never got some, some drug, but was inspired by Botox.

• 59:01Laci Mosley?

  It gives you the feeling.

• 59:02Speaker 04

  But what if it's like inspirational, where it's like, it's, it's actually like, it is a placebo. They're like full of sugar or something, but not actually steroids. And then when you do improve, it's like, see? See? It was the power of you. It was the power of you. Yeah, when you, at the bottom of the bottle, it says, it was the power of you all along.

• 59:22Laci Mosley?

  And look, they be going to the gym more regularly because they're taking their little pills.

• 59:25Speaker 04

  It's working, it's working. It's like, see, you didn't actually need it. All you needed was yourself.

• 59:29Laci Mosley?

  All you needed was yourself. This whole thing is inspired. Now we're, have we done a 180 and we're back on the spin side?

• 59:34Speaker 04

  Now we love it. We love it now.

• 59:36Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I don't, I don't know about these, the performance enhancing products. I don't know about any of this. I don't know. How do you guys feel about this guy? Before we leave, um, Aaron and, and his, and what he's done for the community.

• 59:50Speaker 04

  Community.

• 59:51Laci Mosley?

  I don't mean, I don't. Me and the queer community.

• 59:55Speaker 04

  I was wondering.

• 59:56Laci Mosley?

  You can also respond to that.

• 59:57Speaker 04

  It is interesting that they're like, we're three gay men who aren't doing this for our gay, our community, but just the money. But it feels like maybe they were all bullied by these kind of people when they were younger.

• 1:00:09Laci Mosley?

  So they're trying to kill them?

• 1:00:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe. They're like, yeah, roid up. Go for it. Go the distance. I'll give you all the drugs.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Go for it. See what happens. And they're like, that's plotting and planning. I mean, it's wild what rich people will do. Like, feed people, build homes. Yeah. Do philanthropy, like. Yeah. And then do entertainment later. But also, this is not entertainment. This is so wild. You're fucking with people's lives. Yeah. I think that's just the most wildest part. But like, I guess I'll go. That being said. That being said. I will be there. If it happens. May 2026. I will probably go.

• 1:00:52Laci Mosley?

  I did hear you were the headliner for the set that's happening there.

• 1:00:56Speaker 04

  I will be doing standup in between people having roid rages and breaking bones.

• 1:01:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they said that was gonna like help keep the vibes up.

• 1:01:04Speaker 04

  You're standing in a puddle of blood. Actually, I'm not even doing standup. I pivoted. I'm gonna launch my musical career. I will be singing at the enhancement games. That's the place to do it. May as well. No rules.

• 1:01:14Laci Mosley?

  No rules.

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  No, no shame either. What is happening?

• 1:01:18Laci Mosley?

  Right. Everything. That question is what is happening to everything. So that is the perfect way.

• 1:01:22Speaker 04

  Mariah Carey will also be there. She'll be shooting glitter too. Like, we're just gonna like, turn it, turn the world on its head.

• 1:01:28Laci Mosley?

  We're gonna do anything. And I love that. Okay? Thank you both so much for being here.

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  Thank you for having us. This is very informative.

• 1:01:38Laci Mosley?

  I do feel like we learned a lot today.

• 1:01:39Speaker 04

  Learned a lot. I really did learn a lot. I didn't want to know any of it, but now I know it.

• 1:01:44Laci Mosley?

  Now you know it. We always ask on this podcast, where would you like to be found? So anything you want to plug, social media, obviously.

• 1:01:50Speaker 04

  Dead? In a ditch?

• 1:01:52Laci Mosley?

  Why?

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  In my house? Honestly, in a bed, surrounded by loved ones.

• 1:01:57Laci Mosley?

  There's always a certain person who comes in here like Nathan Cress was like the La Brea Tar Pits, but like there was no, there was no break. I was like, where would you like to be found? He was like, the La Brea Tar Pits. That was too fast.

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  That is wild. I don't want to be found outside because that means there was no care with my death. Yeah, that's true.

• 1:02:13Laci Mosley?

  I want you to care enough to like hide me.

• 1:02:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, either natural causes surrounded by friends and family, or after a nationwide search off the coast of a very opulent, beautiful location. Yes. That sounds nice.

• 1:02:27Laci Mosley?

  That sounds really nice. And in that case, like if I was like missing and I went missing for too long, I don't know if I would come back because I would kind of be a bummer. You know?

• 1:02:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, if Amelia Earhart came back. Everyone's moved on. Yeah, that's true. They stopped looking for her. Did she get, oh, okay. All right. Yeah.

• 1:02:43Laci Mosley?

  She's like, I've been, I've been living a quaint life on an island. We're like, that's not as inspiring. Would you mind going back?

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, go back, go back over there. Where do you want to be found? Next to you. Oh, my God. I do hope we die at similar times. That'd be nice. Yeah, I don't want to live without you.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  I want you to burst into tears.

• 1:03:04Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. That's really beautiful. I would be so sad. We didn't have to choose.

• 1:03:12Laci Mosley?

  That's really beautiful.

• 1:03:13Speaker 04

  Oh, my God. Who would I text at 1 a.m. about an idea that's already been done?

• 1:03:22Laci Mosley?

  This is beautiful. Oh, this friendship is not a scam, y'all. We know it. We see it. We love it.

• 1:03:29Speaker 04

  But yes, you can listen to our podcast, Best Friends, comes out every Wednesday. Starting on July 30th. 31st.

• 1:03:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, fuck. Yeah, so it is out now. So get into it. And they're

• 1:03:41Speaker 04

  I mean, it's the 30th. Yeah, it's 30th.

• 1:03:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. Yes.

• 1:03:47Laci Mosley?

  I want y'all to have that win regardless. It's out now.

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  It's out now.

• 1:03:51Laci Mosley?

  It's out now, Best Friends. And as always, y'all, you can look at Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram to see all of these wonderful photos that will definitely give you, um, sleep paralysis. I'm so sorry about that. Um, and then you can follow me at D I V A L A C I D Velaci on all platforms. All of first season of Scam Goddess is streaming now on Hulu. You can watch the first season of Going Dutch on Hulu now. I'm going back to Ireland, guys. I might be in Ireland by the time this drops. So yes, um, let's get it. My book is available everywhere, audio and physical copy. And congregation, I really want you guys to get out there.

• 1:04:22Laci Mosley?

  I want you to get out there. And do what? And do what? And stay enhanced. Keep enhancing your life. Whatever that means. You just gave him a slogan. You really did. Stay enhanced, stay us. No. Erin's gonna take it too.

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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