Favorite Moments of Season 7

We take it back for a moment to remember the wild ride that was Season 7! Bunnie's handpicked the juiciest moments for us to relive all the insanity, laughter, and group therapy sessions. From Bailee Ann spilling the tea to Bam Margera's crazy antics, near-death experiences on planes, online drama, Tyler Henry's insights and Dita Von Teese's sultry stories, it's been a rollercoaster of emotions and entertainment. Buckle up, babies.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 0:49Speaker 01

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• 1:01Bunnie XO?

  Hey guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know, why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I don't think you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. We have the Bunny XO Show, we have Meet the Deportes, we have Popaganda, we have more shows that we're adding, and not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Not only that, we have four tiers that caters to everybody's budget and everybody gets the podcast. There's no more excuses. Head over to www.patreon.com/dumblonpodcast and sign up. Stop missing out. We have built a huge community over there, guys. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of people over there.

• 1:43Bunnie XO?

  We even have live chats, live chats that I actually am talking in every single night. Last but not least, we give away gifts every frickin' month. I'm talking like signed stuff from Jay and I lives. You just never know what kind of surprise you're gonna get. It's like a Crackerjack box. I love the community that we've built over there at Patreon. If you are already a Patreon member, I freaking love you, dude. Thank you so much. You guys are my My babies for life, my writers, if I could, I would literally make out with each and every one of you. I love you guys so much, and that's a lot of kisses, actually. Gotta go bye. Is this thing on?

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 2:23Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit, and I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child, and here we are. One, two, three. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I literally just lost it. I started crying on the phone. I was so mad. There were so many fucking emotions. And, you know, of course, the first thing I want to do is be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

• 2:46Speaker 03

  I can continue being the shitty human I am, doing all the things I'm doing, and doing drugs, and lying, and hurting people, and hurting myself. I was sitting alone with the person who tried to kill me.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  And that's like a really, like, dark paradox to be stuck in, until you can finally, like, get out of it. So it's like, it was just, it was just me.

• 3:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  And I was like, what the fuck? Like, I don't know what to, I'm sitting in the room that I tried to kill myself in with just the person who tried to kill me.

• 3:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:17Speaker 03

  Like, I have to, like, I was just ready. Finally hit the fork in the road.

• 3:20Bunnie XO?

  So that night, I sent Bailey to her room, and she took a bunch of pills that I did not know she had. The next day, she came down, and she's like, Mom, I gotta tell you something. And I was like, what's up? And she's like, I tried to kill myself. Said, say that again? She said, I tried to kill myself. And I said, well, how did you do it? She took, you know, the pills, and I just looked at her, and I said, Bailey, we have to treat this as a cry for help. But it just crushed me because I was just like, she was just upstairs. Like, what if she had really gone through with it, you know?

• 3:46Speaker 03

  Like, what if I took that bottle of pills and didn't throw up?

• 3:48Bunnie XO?

  This is a 911 help, and we need to do something. And it was the hardest decision I think Jay and I have ever had to make together as a couple. My parents had put me in a mental hospital when I was a teenager, when I was 14. And I know what happened to me in that mental hospital, and I just know that Bailey's issues run deeper than a medication and being in a fucking straitjacket. This is trauma. This is hurt. This is pain. She needs somewhere to go that she know, nothing can get to her, nothing can bother her. This is not something that you throw a pill at. This is something that, this is, you need to rip the Band-Aid open, and you've got to really start healing.

• 4:26Speaker 03

  And I'm fourteen. This is my mother who I really trust and who I've built a really good relationship with at this point.

• 4:32Bunnie XO?

  Her mom actually provided her with the weed.

• 4:34Speaker 03

  A lot, yeah.

• 4:35Bunnie XO?

  Also had you doing what else?

• 4:37Speaker 03

  Had me drinking a lot at this point. So yeah, we started drinking together. Everything's. And I'm like, okay, like this isn't whatever. You're just cool, mom. You're letting me drink and let me smoke weed. Like this is cool. It was Fourth of July. We had left my Mimi's for her big Fourth of July thing that she does every year. She's like, hey, we're gonna make a stop. We can't stop, Felicia. What are we doing? And I was so drunk, the kind of drunk where I just don't even like, I can't even feel what's around me. So I'm just like, okay, whatever. Let's just stop somewhere. She's like, yeah, we're stopping by my dealer. And I was like, that's a bomb to drop. What? We're stopping by your dealer? What do you mean your fucking dealer? That's when she told me, she's like, yeah, I've been doing cocaine again, but it's recreational. What the fuck? And I remember freaking out. And then she like talked me down and she's like, it's okay. Like, and I'm like, okay, whatever, mom.

• 5:20Bunnie XO?

  It was getting really bad to like where your mom wasn't able to like take you to school.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  God, the house was horrendous.

• 5:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it was like.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Nightmares. Like I still to this day.

• 5:30Bunnie XO?

  It was bad. I remember the first time your daddy took me there that you had to have been like, what, seven years old?

• 5:34Speaker 03

  About seven.

• 5:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Your daddy took me there and my first memory of Bailey is her cooking dinner for her.

• 5:41Speaker 03

  Cousins that live with me?

• 5:42Bunnie XO?

  Little two cousins.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  Who I was literally raising, like literally raising these two children.

• 5:48Bunnie XO?

  So you gotta imagine Bailey is, you know, six, seven years old and she's moming these two younger cousins. And this house was completely trashed. Bailey had no bed. She was sleeping in a chair. The neglect in the house was just horrific. It was really bad.

• 6:02Speaker 03

  Honestly outrageous.

• 6:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like no kids deserve to to go with what through what they went through, having two addicts, you know, as parents. So.

• 6:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:11Bunnie XO?

  That's how bad their addiction was getting. And that's what I'm trying to paint the picture. It wasn't like they were just popping a pill here and there. Like it was like.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  It was, yeah. God, it was terrible.

• 6:20Bunnie XO?

  How are Phil and April doing? How's your relationship with them?

• 6:23Speaker 04

  I just realized that it right now, it's just a good time to just back off and and they were a part of the whole treatment thing. Like I got a guardian just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key, put him in. Put him in treatment and I knew that that was not the way.

• 6:39Bunnie XO?

  You feel like April and Phil had something to do with the, was it a conservatorship that you had?

• 6:44Speaker 04

  They all teamed up on me and said that he needs to go away for a long, long time.

• 6:49Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be so hurtful that the people that are supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you.

• 6:55Speaker 04

  You know, is what hurts the most is that my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it, hiding in a hotel. And then all of a sudden the police show up. I'm like, are you in all this? My mom's like, bam, I have no idea. I have no idea about it. Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away, she's talking to the cops like, like they fucking arranged this.

• 7:12Bunnie XO?

  That betrayal has got to be fucking traumatic.

• 7:15Speaker 04

  For a whole year, she's like, bam, I swear I had no idea about it. And then a year later, BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have to say about this? Well, Pam, we didn't know what to do. It's like, but, but you lied to me for a whole year.

• 7:26Bunnie XO?

  Were you using a lot then?

• 7:29Speaker 04

  No, because I was in treatment for two years, but as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that because I had no reason to stop.

• 7:36Speaker 05

  I'm going to say it because this is the honesty day today. Whatever issue you have, your family is supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Point in South Africa and they had a $15 million budget and he tried to do it without us and it was a fucking flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go. You're either gonna have to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a Jackass 5. Well, if Pam's not in it, then that's already $6 million, $5 million that we don't have to pay back. So we could already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on TMZ.

• 8:09Bunnie XO?

  So you're still really angry with Knoxville?

• 8:12Speaker 04

  Put me through hell, made me pay all this fucking treatment money and they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment. So they already set me up to fucking fail. And then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid a hundred grand to go to treatment, only for me to fuck up. And then now I'm not in the movie. They had it all planned out. Shereen and Knoxville, they would be in Los Angeles, making all these secret deals. Then they do a fucking documentary about how Jackass got created. And talking about Big Brother the whole time. And then at the very tail end, probably about 5%, oh yeah. And then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. Sold millions of copies. Fucking barely sold 20,000 copies of

• 8:49Speaker 05

  I feel like you made Jackass though, because you already had like a little mini empire with CKY before even getting on to Jack. I knew who you were before Jackass.

• 8:57Speaker 04

  I have learned how to forgive and be happy and I deleted anybody that's giving me a problem, but I just want to take my anger out on one person. Knoxville, get into a ring with me, take off your boxing gloves, one, two, three, you're fucking done for. Once you get Martzman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens in Florida. That means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity. So I'm like 88 days in and I'm like, I get two, in two more days, I get out hip, hip, hooray. Then he walks in, he's like, you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days now. I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to get any pussy around here. I don't care. They're like, it's bad hygiene. You're doing another 90 days at another place. Then I'll do 88 days at another place.

• 9:38Speaker 04

  Flick the cigarette out into a bush. They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke. It was not on fire. Like, you could lit the whole national forest on fire. You're doing another 90 days in another place. They just kept doing it and doing it, doing it.

• 9:49Speaker 05

  Body snatching, basically.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Straight up body snatching.

• 9:51Speaker 05

  Insurance. They just toss you through.

• 9:54Speaker 04

  And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out there. They will find, yeah.

• 9:58Speaker 05

  Oh yeah. Once you're in the system.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  So I did everything right in my bed. Now, you know, we're going to keep you here for another 90 days. For what? I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for two and a half years. Get me the fuck out. I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle. She's like, Bam, there's no such thing as a Florida shuffle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about. And I really went on. She like forced me to do it like, hey, guys, I know I was talking about the Florida shuffle, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about. And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever.

• 10:28Speaker 05

  Lies.

• 10:28Speaker 04

  Like, I was definitely in the fucking Florida shuffle. I was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days apiece and one of them was 220. It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there.

• 10:37Speaker 05

  The definition of the Florida shuffle, where Bam was, which his parents seemed to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say, you and I have one. It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get him fucked up.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Because if they let you out and you have a couple of days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purpose.

• 10:53Speaker 05

  Say, hey, you know, Haley's over on. 10th Street and Del Ray, go get her. And then you would keep her for 30 days and we would split a hundred thousand dollars. And that's how it goes. And that's what he was. It's just a constant shuffle.

• 11:05Speaker 04

  I saw this psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So

• 11:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's not, don't tell Bam that.

• 11:12Speaker 04

  I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station in Vista, California, because my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house. So I had to charge it in, in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up, these M13 gangsters with their tattoos, face and everything, they go, yo, you banned from Jackass? I'm like, yeah. They're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes. And they're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes. And then I park, I park at the gas station, knowing that my phone's still charging. And I'm, hang on, guys. And I leave the car running. I'm like, I gotta go get my phone. They're like, all right, cool. So I go in and I'm like, hey, ma'am, can I get my phone? They're like, she's like, I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, well, I gave it to somebody, but you gave my phone away? I was

• 11:55Speaker 04

  forced to call 911. So three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all larried up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car as the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone. It had nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs. And apparently he had guns and drugs on him. So he took my car. I walk out, there's three helicopters in the sky. And I hear from Officer Bentley, I'll never forget. Bentley's been crashed in the house. I'm like, awesome. And I didn't want to press charges because I don't need these guys after me though. Ate the cash on that as well.

• 12:28Bunnie XO?

  Why do you think this shit happens to you all the time, Bam?

• 12:32Speaker 04

  Because I listened to a lady say yes to everything that day.

• 12:36Bunnie XO?

  There has to be some level of discernment in your gut, though. You gotta be like, no, maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys.

• 12:42Speaker 04

  It was just like, she just said it. So the first thing that just say yes to everything. Yo, Bam, can we get a photo? Yes.

• 12:48Bunnie XO?

  Was she a stripper psychic?

• 12:49Speaker 04

  She was a psychic. And then the stripper was next and then a buddy.

• 12:52Bunnie XO?

  Was the psychic in the strip club?

• 12:53Speaker 04

  He had a tiny, no, it was not.

• 12:55Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so they're totally unrelated.

• 12:58Speaker 05

  So you and Ryan Dunn's relationship, let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends.

• 13:03Speaker 04

  Yeah. He was just such a character. He would be The guy to do the gnarly thing that everybody would back out on to get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building into this pricker bush. Just give me a shot of Crown Royal and let's get it done and over with. So and we did everything together. Find out that he got in a car accident. It was very devastating because I never had anybody die that I was close to and I never knew what it felt like. I remember we were in outside of Phoenix, Arizona. I was doing an appearance the next day. All of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do that? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad and I don't know why. I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at twelve twenty eight in Pennsylvania and I smashed the window at fucking nine twenty eight in Phoenix.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  So it's like we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened and I didn't know what till I found out the next morning.

• 13:52Bunnie XO?

  It was like he was like a soulmate. Like he wanted you to know. Yeah. Soulmates, soulmates can be your friends too. Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling?

• 14:01Speaker 04

  Hell yeah, because I was so lost. Instead of like drinking as a celebration, it was just drinking to forget.

• 14:08Bunnie XO?

  How did you guys meet?

• 14:10Speaker 06

  Been the bottle.

• 14:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 14:11Speaker 07

  There's more to that.

• 14:12Bunnie XO?

  I gotta hear, now I gotta hear the spin the bottle story.

• 14:15Speaker 07

  We met, but we didn't know each other. Like we knew of each other, but it was because of a person. He was basically friends with the person that I dated.

• 14:23Speaker 06

  I took his bitch.

• 14:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh my god, yeah. Still your girl.

• 14:26Speaker 06

  I told him, let's fade. Like I'm down to fade for her, so.

• 14:29Speaker 07

  What the hell?

• 14:32Speaker 07

  My friend Susan, like I started going out with her, like going and sleeping over at her house more. And so she hung out with his group, like a friend. I had basically like started liking his pictures and he started for like, we just started like liking each other's pictures. We started commenting like on each other's things. Then my friend Susan, I was gonna go hang out at her house. And she was like, oh, Garg said he wants to hang out. I was like, I'm down. So then I went and I stayed with Susan.

• 14:55Speaker 06

  We got drunk and then got bored and like I didn't want to make a first move because like there was a bunch of people.

• 14:59Bunnie XO?

  We got bored.

• 15:01Speaker 06

  I didn't want to tell her like, let's just go to the room.

• 15:03Speaker 07

  Basically, I had told him, I was like, there's a game that me and Susan play. It's in the bottle. And I was like, all of us, like, let's play it, you know?

• 15:09Speaker 06

  It actually landed on me and her.

• 15:11Speaker 07

  I look over and he's on the bed, ready. I swear to God, he was like

• 15:18Speaker 07

  on the bed.

• 15:19Speaker 06

  And everyone is just staring.

• 15:21Speaker 07

  He slowly creeped up to the bed like he knew. And he was just like on the bed. This is his time to shine, baby. He was waiting for this moment. Like I looked over, I was like, where? And then I just look over and he's literally on the bed.

• 15:33Speaker 06

  You know what you wanted?

• 15:35Speaker 07

  So, did you guys end up kissing? Did you crawl on top of him and kiss him? Yeah, I was like the ballsy one. I like walked over there and I was like, oh, this is what you guys want to see? I was like, well, you're gonna get a show. So after that night that you guys hooked up, you guys just decided to be together from there? Um, no. It was kind of like a hookup that night. And then we kind of would just like.

• 15:51Speaker 06

  We're never gonna see each other again.

• 15:52Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, we, but we probably were. We were gonna be like fuck buddies, you know? Yeah.

• 15:56Speaker 06

  Like, I didn't, I didn't know.

• 15:57Speaker 07

  Did G put it down? Yeah.

• 15:59Speaker 06

  I gave him the works. I knew like I had to like.

• 16:02Speaker 07

  Attaboy.

• 16:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, and I was, I was in my football body.

• 16:05Speaker 07

  I actually, I actually could not, I, Susan even knows this too. I actually couldn't walk. Like, I couldn't sit. Goodness gracious. I couldn't sit. It hurt. It hurt so, yeah, it hurt so bad, yeah. We never talk about this, but literally I like. It's great. I literally, I remember me and my friend, like I literally, I went, I went to sit down on her, like, on her table. Yeah. And I was just sat down, I was like.

• 16:31Speaker 07

  Did you know you'd put it down like that?

• 16:33Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. I told the boys, I was like.

• 16:35Speaker 07

  Yes, of course, because he was knocked out after. Aww. So I put him to sleep.

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• 18:14Speaker 09

  Oh, but apparently like that's the only thing I really have to look out for. And then the spine disease, so I try to wear, try to, my dad's always telling, he's gonna yell at me, "Put your shoulders back." So like my boobs are so heavy, they pull my spine forward.

• 18:27Bunnie XO?

  When I had my boobs done, that was the same way. My, the implants were so heavy.

• 18:30Speaker 09

  You still have big boobs.

• 18:32Bunnie XO?

  These are my real ones. I had my implants.

• 18:34Speaker 09

  And you're like a D still.

• 18:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I had my implants taken out, but yeah, that's exactly, I would hunch over too. And I still do that now because I'm so used to having those, I had those fucking kazongas for like 13 years. So you got a nice rack though.

• 18:45Speaker 09

  I'm a fucking 34 triple D.

• 18:47Bunnie XO?

  They're nice.

• 18:48Speaker 09

  I'm gonna show you when we're done.

• 18:49Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait.

• 18:49Speaker 09

  They're crazy.

• 18:50Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait.

• 18:51Speaker 09

  They hurt. I've thought about a breast reduction, but my husband's like, "Don't you dare, you're gonna have that crazy scar and like they're so pretty."

• 18:57Bunnie XO?

  No, not if you go to a micro surgeon.

• 18:59Speaker 09

  Really?

• 19:00Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm, they'll be able to do it like super, super thin.

• 19:02Speaker 09

  Really? Like I had one girlfriend of mine who she, they took the nipple off and then they took, and then they put it back on and it looks crazy.

• 19:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:09Speaker 09

  Looks like someone chewed on the nipples and sewed them back on, like someone ate the pepperoni and then fucking put it back on. I'm like, what the fuck?

• 19:16Bunnie XO?

  It's like a kid's pizza.

• 19:17Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 19:17Bunnie XO?

  You are so open about your mental health journey. Right now, especially in the times that we live in, is so fucking important. People try to act like everything's fine, all the time. And I love the fact that you're like, "I am fucking about to get on a flight and I am scared to death." And like, you're just so real about it. When I was going through my suicidal ideation, I remember looking at Jay and I was like, "I don't know how I'm gonna live till 50. I don't want to be here till 50." Now, I'm kinda like, "Shit, I might wanna hang out till I'm 80."

• 19:42Speaker 09

  When I was younger, I just was really struggling and I remember I used to wanna die all the time. I'd pray to God, "I don't wanna wake up, I don't wanna wake up, I don't wanna be here anymore." I was a cutter, so I got caught at school cutting, they sent me to the hospital, I got put in inpatient, and then from there, they ended up putting me on an antidepressant.

• 20:01Bunnie XO?

  At sixteen.

• 20:01Speaker 09

  Yeah, I've tried to get off of it completely because you know, my life has changed and your life does change. And that's what I think people need to remember. Maybe in a season of your life where things are horrible. You don't want to be here, but that doesn't mean that spring isn't coming. People sit there and they think this is forever. It's not. Nothing's forever, good and bad. I'm very uncomfortable all the time almost. So like when you meet someone that you're like, okay, I can just chill. Like it's nice.

• 20:24Bunnie XO?

  I can let my tits hang out.

• 20:25Speaker 09

  I just take my top off.

• 20:26Bunnie XO?

  It's what I strive for.

• 20:27Speaker 09

  Yeah, exactly.

• 20:28Bunnie XO?

  It's to get you naked.

• 20:29Speaker 09

  You're a comfort person, I'm dead. You're gonna have to pay more on the Patreon for that. Yeah.

• 20:33Bunnie XO?

  For sure. It wouldn't be the first time we've had some titties flop out on the podcast, so yeah.

• 20:38Speaker 09

  Who took their titties out?

• 20:39Bunnie XO?

  Jessie Lalas off the top took her fuck, and she had some, she's a little full, full lesbian. Gorgeous tits. I feel like every fucking lesbian has the nicest tits. The Bunny XO Show's coming back, baby. Are you guys excited? Woo, woo, wow!

• 21:01Bunnie XO?

  How'd that sound on you guys' speakers?

• 21:06Bunnie XO?

  How was that for the speakers, guys? That hurt. We almost fucking died in a plane and I did not think it was gonna make headline news. International news. Literally, we're on this plane and I already had a bad feeling about it. I just, when Jay told us we were leaving at seven o'clock the next night, I immediately told Mimi, get us other flights, because I don't, for some reason, just something gave me anxiety. I just had like butterflies in my stomach. When we were driving there, we pulled up and Haley was like, oh, look, it's a rainbow. It's beautiful. And I was like, yeah, that's a good sign that nothing's gonna be wrong with this airplane. Never say shit like that because I am such a words are spells kind of person, but I just felt it.

• 21:46Bunnie XO?

  And sometimes when I have visions, if I don't talk about it, they happen. We get on this plane and the Feng Shui of the plane is already off. Jay said it the minute he stepped on that plane. Yeah, my husband walked in the plane and he was like, wait, what? My seat is, the seat that he normally always sits in was on the opposite side. Just felt weird. And then the staff was not that great. They were not. Terrible snacks.

• 22:11Bunnie XO?

  Besides the snacks, they just weren't warm and welcoming. And before you're about to have your life in two people's hands, you would like them to be fucking warm and welcoming. And when we take off, they keep like, if you've ever been on a jet, you can feel when they break. And we're like elevating, elevating, and then all of a sudden we just break. And then it's like, it was so weird because it got like eerily quiet. And then I have my headphones on and I see Boston, our security run up to the pilot. Comes back and he looks like he's seen a ghost almost, like he looked really flustered. Moved my headphone thing to the side to hear what he was saying. I said, what's going on? And all I hear Boston say is something's wrong with the plane. We have to emergency land.

• 22:53Speaker 10

  Jay just goes, well, tell them sooner than later. Texting my family goodbye and that I love them.

• 22:59Bunnie XO?

  I literally was texting Kayla and I was like, oh my God, they have to emergency land this plane. Come to find out, the computer malfunctioned. And when a computer malfunctions on a plane, the screen that they have to be able to see everything around them and fly, other planes, fucking UFOs, anything fucking is completely black. So he was blindly driving the plane. What's up with fucking Billy Bob Thornton though? King. Literally, right? Him and I literally turned and locked eyes. And it was like, for a moment, I forgot I was married and I was like sashayed my way over to him, like just a fucking little dork. And I was just like, such a pleasure to me. Oh my God, icon. Like I was like, this is amazing. Cause he's literally the only person I wanted to meet the entire time I was there.

• 23:43Speaker 10

  You went through all the chairs and then you're like Billy Bob Thornton.

• 23:45Bunnie XO?

  I was so excited. Like I love all the country music singers too, but I've met all of them. But to see like Jane Seymour and Billy Bob Thornton there, like they're fucking icons, dude. Meeting fucking Billy Bob was the highlight of my life.

• 23:56Speaker 10

  Yeah, for sure.

• 23:57Bunnie XO?

  I thought about him for days afterwards.

• 23:59Speaker 10

  Such an icon through my life.

• 24:01Bunnie XO?

  Dude, he was with Angelina fucking Jolie. They were the ones who originally wore the blood.

• 24:05Speaker 10

  Smell her on him?

• 24:07Bunnie XO?

  I tried. I tried. It was a deep whiff. I whipped his soul whenever we hugged.

• 24:15Speaker 10

  I love him.

• 24:16Bunnie XO?

  I love him. He's a fucking badass.

• 24:17Speaker 10

  He was so sweet.

• 24:18Bunnie XO?

  He was so sweet.

• 24:19Speaker 10

  The fact that he like takes time to like, he speaks to you, you know, like you meet so many people and you feel like as if they're just speaking. But like, he really spoke to you.

• 24:30Bunnie XO?

  He's a sweetie pie.

• 24:33Bunnie XO?

  But yeah, good old fucking Billy Bob. I love him.

• 24:36Speaker 10

  Have you ever had sleep paralysis?

• 24:38Bunnie XO?

  I had an orgasm one time during sleep paralysis and I could have swore I was getting like banged by a demon.

• 24:44Speaker 10

  You liked that.

• 24:45Bunnie XO?

  What? Yeah, I'm sure. I didn't mind the orgasm, but it was.

• 24:47Speaker 10

  Was that in the cemetery?

• 24:48Bunnie XO?

  No, it was in my bed in the middle of the day. It was fucking scary. And you can like hear like a growling sound. It's crazy.

• 24:55Speaker 10

  I've heard, I've heard scratching next to my bed.

• 24:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I've heard growling.

• 24:59Speaker 10

  Mine, I just can't breathe. Like I wake up.

• 25:02Bunnie XO?

  That too.

• 25:02Speaker 10

  I can breathe, but I can't talk. But then it just puts me right back to sleep. Like I, I physically cannot get myself out of the sleep.

• 25:09Bunnie XO?

  I haven't had a sleep paralysis dream in probably two years and actually maybe longer.

• 25:14Speaker 10

  We're all gonna go home tonight.

• 25:15Bunnie XO?

  It's been a few months.

• 25:16Speaker 10

  I know, I hope not.

• 25:18Bunnie XO?

  I'm wondering what I'm doing different that I, why I don't have them anymore.

• 25:21Speaker 10

  You're not taking vitamins like you used to.

• 25:23Bunnie XO?

  I don't want them. So you think vitamins cause sleep paralysis?

• 25:26Speaker 10

  Well, you were overdosing on vitamins.

• 25:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 10

  And before that was drugs. You had a chemical imbalance every single time. You've been clear these past two years of everything.

• 25:35Bunnie XO?

  It's because I love Jesus. I think that's how it happens too, is when you don't plan something, it just organically grows. It's almost like the universe grabs it and just rolls with it.

• 25:46Speaker 11

  Don't get me started on manifesting things because I, I really believe that. I really think like a lot of people will ask me like, what does it take to get where you are? And I'm like, well, first of all, stop thinking of where you want to go and start enjoying where you are. Because if you can't appreciate the, the, the now and what's happening right now, forget it. Like, and when people ask me like what my goal is right now, I'm like, I don't have a goal. I never had a goal. I just was like quietly delighted at all the little milestones and enjoying that moment and working with integrity and, and gratitude.

• 26:23Speaker 11

  And like, that's the key. Like, I don't think if you, if you're always looking for the next best thing or like the thing that's going to make you. I don't think it works like that.

• 26:34Bunnie XO?

  That's so real. And I think a lot of people, including myself, need to hear something like that because I'm always like on to the next goal. And sometimes I forget that this is a journey, not a destination. So that was very beautifully said. What does it take to make Deidre Von Teese happy in a relationship?

• 26:49Speaker 11

  Well, I'm a bit of a size queen.

• 26:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 26:53Speaker 11

  Admittedly. Joking aside, I guess I just, I love doing what I do. I love working. I love, you know, I always have so many projects. I think what I, I love being independent. I don't like being like, I'm somebody's woman. I don't want to date any more famous men.

• 27:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:09Speaker 11

  I don't know. I just love my work. To me, it's all like spread across the board. Like when I was younger, it was like I put so much importance on romance.

• 27:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 27:18Speaker 11

  And I just am like, okay.

• 27:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. As you get older, you're just like, no, it's like, I always tell my husband, I'm like, we've been together almost a decade. I'm like, if, if this does not work out, which it will, I, I could never just get into another relationship again, especially with a public person. And also just having to get to know somebody on that level again of intimacy and just being, you know, joined at the hip with somebody is just, it's a lot. It's a lot to have to try to work through again.

• 27:47Speaker 11

  I've always wanted to ask, what is it like, I don't know if this is too graphic, but what is it like the first time you cut into a body?

• 27:53Speaker 12

  You know, the good thing is that you're not the first one to do it. And so you're assisting. I think it's the first time it's your patient is when it's really scary.

• 28:01Speaker 11

  Right. That's what, yeah.

• 28:02Speaker 12

  You know, because being a resident, there was always backup, you know, like when we did surgery and in residency, you had the older surgeon basically saying like, cut here. I remember the first time they actually, um, I was operating with the surgeon. I was, I was, I think maybe an intern and I was doing essentially, it was a hernia. And that's like one of the basic operations. And I'd never started an operation before. And we're standing there over the patient and he goes, Tony, get started. And I had never started an operation before. So I'm like, uh, and I grabbed the clamp off of the, the, um, the mayo stand, which is the stand that the, the scrub techs have. And he looks at me like, you idiot, are you going to make a cut with a clamp? I'm like, oh, no. Like, oh, can I have a scalpel, please?

• 28:43Bunnie XO?

  I could never do it. I would probably pass out.

• 28:45Speaker 12

  No, because it's it's baby steps, you know, I mean, our training, you know, for me, my training started when I was a medical student. You you start from literally doing the tiniest little procedures. I remember the first time I did spinal tap on a little baby. Here's this little kid, this little baby, you know, and I was so nervous as a medical student, but the but the attending pediatrician was just so gentle and reassuring. All the way up to now where it's like, yeah, I've had people say, thank you for saving my life. And, you know, and I've cut people's skin open and pull out. It's like, when you think about it, like, how arrogant do you have to be to think that you can cut somebody open, especially in plastic surgery, where they're completely healthy and you make them unhealthy for a period of time, expecting that they're going to be healthy again?

• 29:25Bunnie XO?

  Plastic surgery is beautiful, but it's so barbaric at the same time.

• 29:28Speaker 12

  It can be. Oh, yeah.

• 29:29Bunnie XO?

  Fascinating to know that you can cut somebody open, take stuff out, sew them up again, and then the outcome is absolutely gorgeous.

• 29:38Speaker 12

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 29:39Bunnie XO?

  What is the wildest request you've ever had for a surgery?

• 29:44Speaker 12

  Oh, you know, I can tell you a wild story.

• 29:47Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I'm ready.

• 29:48Speaker 12

  Okay, I mean, I get wild requests, but this was like a wild story. I had a patient who came in to see me. This was, I literally was in practice for four months. So I'm this new plastic surgeon in Michigan. I I thought I was kind of like, I in in my head, I was trying to present myself like as a Beverly Hills big shot because I trained out in Beverly Hills. And now I'm in like Rochester Hills, Michigan, this small town. And I'm and I and, you know, I, at the same time, inside, I knew like I'm I'm brand new. I'm green. Like, I've not treated people by myself before and I was nervous. But on the surface, it's like, oh, yeah, sure. You know, I'm a real plastic surgeon. I trained in Beverly Hills.

• 30:19Bunnie XO?

  I got this.

• 30:20Speaker 12

  So this woman comes in and she had had a facelift and a brow lift done by a different plastic surgeon. A guy who was really not thought of well in my community is kind of a chop shop type guy.

• 30:30Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 30:30Speaker 12

  And so she had some areas where a little bit of loose skin here, her brows had dropped again and stuff. And she's like, can you fix me or can you make things better? So I'm like, and she goes, I used to be a model. And she was now in her late 50s. She goes, I used to be a model and now I'm just feeling like I've lost it. And can you please help me? And I felt bad for her.

• 30:50Speaker 12

  So I said, you know what, let me give you a discount and let's do this operation. And it was a brow lift and a facelift. And I brought her to surgery and the surgery went perfectly. So she comes back to see me at one week and she was happy at one week. And then at three weeks she was happy. And then all of a sudden I get a call from her a couple of weeks later saying that, that I botched her and that she is going to go see some other surgeons to see what can be done to fix it. So now like I'm literally four months in practice. I'd never had an unhappy patient before. I didn't know what to do with it. And so I, I call her up and I say, hey, what's going on? And she goes, you botched me. Uh, I'm trying to find somebody to fix this. And I, so I said, well, please just come back to the office. Let's take a peek at it. Cause last time I saw her, she looked great, like healing was fine.

• 31:33Speaker 12

  So I said, just come back to the office and let's just take a peek and see what's going on. You know, let's see what I can do to help you. So she comes into the office, she comes barging into, I, I scheduled at the end of the day. Cause I'm thinking like, I think she's mad and I don't want her to scare other patients away. So you always schedule them at the end of the day so that they don't like, you know, ruin the rest of your day and scare everybody away. So she comes in, she barges in the door and she is pissed off. Her face is bright red and she starts screaming at me. And she's like, you botched me, you botched me, you made me look Oriental. And I'm like Oriental, she goes, you made me look like you. And I'm like, what? And like, she's Caucasian, you know, like, no, it doesn't look Asian. Um, and so I go, well, I go, let's settle down.

• 32:16Speaker 12

  She goes, I saw this other doctor and he told me I, that, that I'm a train wreck now, that I, that you completely botched me. And I'm like, I'm actually really good friends with this doctor. There's no way he would ever say that. And I don't tell her this, but I go, well, I go, what can I do to try to make it up for you? Like let's, you know, let's, let's see what we can do together. And she goes, you better pay me a half a million dollars or I'm going to run you out of town. And I go half, I don't have like, I was literally $200,000 in debt.

• 32:40Bunnie XO?

  Right. Did she look Asian?

• 32:42Speaker 12

  No, she looked fine and she was healing fine. Looking at her incisions, everything was healing fine. She had body dysmorphia. What she looked at and saw in the mirror was different than what everybody else saw. So I'm like, I go, look, I don't have a half a million dollars. Like, I'm like, I'm literally 200 grand in debt myself. And that's my debt. My wife had another 200 grand. So we're like almost half a million the whole as it is.

• 33:02Speaker 13

  Gosh.

• 33:03Speaker 12

  And so, so I go, I don't have that money. And she goes 400, or she goes $150,000. You pay me $150,000 and I will forget that you destroyed my face. And I go, look, you actually look fine. Like, let's talk this over. And then she goes carte blanche. Carte blanche. I get whatever I want by whatever surgeon I want for the next three years and you pay for it. And I'm like, I mean, what, this isn't like a

• 33:24Speaker 13

  She's literally negotiating with you.

• 33:26Speaker 12

  So I go, look, I can't do that. Then she goes, if you don't do that, then I'm gonna send you back to LA where the only people who allow you to operate in them are the whores. And she starts running my, through my office, literally screaming, the whores, the whores, the whores. She goes up to my big window and like a horror movie, she's like, I'm a monster, looking at the window screaming at the top of her lungs. And so I'm like, oh my, and now I knew that she was gonna be unhappy. So I actually wrote her a check for what I had, what she paid me and what her hospital fees were. Like, I would have, it's like more than what I made, like, what she paid me and a lot more. Because before, you know, when, before she came in, I had this feeling like this is gonna go bad. And I had a release for her where if she were to sign the release, then

• 34:11Speaker 12

  like it releases me of indemnity of, of any responsibility. So I say, look, I go, I've got a check for the cost of your operation. I go, this is money that you paid the hospital too. I go, I will give you this check if you sign this release. And she goes, she looks at, she goes, this is all you're offering me? And she goes, I will destroy you. I've got good friends in town and we're gonna send you back to where you came from. And she leaves and slams the door and leaves. My employees are like hiding under their desks and they're like, oh my gosh. So I call up my old mentor in LA who he has seen freaking everything. I remember he told me back in the day, he said, I had a patient of mine, he goes, yeah, I had a patient of mine who was stalking me, would actually be in bushes in front of my house and looking through my windows.

• 34:54Speaker 12

  And so I'm like, well, he had this person like that person was nuts. So maybe he knows what to do. So I call him up and I say, hey, doc, I'm like this woman. She's like going crazy. I think she's gonna like she's trying. She actually threatened to hit me with her car at one point and she's gonna like, I think she's gonna attack me. And I go, what did you do to get rid of that patient? And he goes, oh, simple. I hired some guys to beat her up. Oh. And I'm like, I don't, I can't, I'm not gonna hire people that I don't even know who to hire to call anyway. Like, not that I'd hire somebody to beat up a patient of mine. So I, so I'm like, okay, thanks for nothing. And he's like, tell me what happens. This is exciting. And I hang up on him. This is exciting. So I'm standing there. I'm like, what do I do? And like my employees, like their eyes are huge, like all of a sudden bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

• 35:39Speaker 12

  And she's at the door and my employees are like, she probably has a gun. And I'm like, oh my gosh. And they're like, don't open the door. And I like, I kind of like a ninja. I like creep up to where the window is and like I look around the corner and like I'm looking like there's no gun or anything. Yeah. So I go up to the door, I open it up. She, she barges in, takes a check that I had put on the front desk, puts it in her pocket, signs the release, walks up to me and she goes, this is not over. And she walks out the door. And so now the next day I had an operation. It was actually a breast reconstruction on a woman who had these huge breasts. And she'd had cancer and this and that. It was gonna be one of the most difficult, probably the most difficult operation I was supposed, I was gonna do up to that point in my career. Poor thing.

• 36:24Speaker 12

  I could not sleep overnight and I call her up. It was like five in the morning. And I go, I'm really sorry. I said, I can't operate on you today. She goes, well, that's okay. And she's just so nice. She goes, we'll, we'll do this later. And I go, no, I go, I don't think I can operate on you. And for months I had like lost all sense of like confidence in myself because like here I, what did I do to this woman? So a couple of weeks go by and I'm at the hospital treating a patient and I get a call from my office and they're like, you need to come back. That patient's mom has left you a message. So I go, what is the message? And then the message is you need to call me. My daughter is suicidal. So now I'm like, I'm like, fuck.

• 37:08Speaker 12

  This now my what happened like my patient's gonna freaking kill herself because of this freaking facelift that I did on her and like what do I do I called one of my best friends a psychiatrist and I say Brian like this is what's going on like what do I do and he goes you need to tell her mom to call the police and send her to the hospital immediately because you know if she's suicidal you've got to do that so I'm like okay so I call her mom up and I'm like hey this is Dr. Yu and I'm calling you know you left me a message about your daughter and and you said she is suicidal is that true and she goes what suicidal what are you talking about and I go well this is what message was left and she goes no no that's a figure of speech she needs more money to pay for what you did to her

• 37:46Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh.

• 37:47Speaker 12

  Oh my gosh like this is an 80 year old woman 85 year old woman trying to like trying to like blackmail me for more money.

• 37:54Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh.

• 37:55Speaker 12

  So I'm like look I'm sorry this conversation's over and and like that was the end of it but.

• 38:00Bunnie XO?

  And you never heard from them again?

• 38:02Speaker 12

  You know I so I referred her in I referred her initially when she called before I saw her and and that whole crazy episode happened and I gave her some names of some local surgeons who are much older than me who've been very established.

• 38:14Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 38:14Speaker 12

  And so I ran into one of them at a meeting a couple of years later and he's like hey Tony I'm like oh hey how's it going and and he's like you know that one patient and I'm like oh I know who you're talking about and he goes she's effing crazy.

• 38:26Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh, so it was just she was just looking for a paycheck.

• 38:30Speaker 12

  I think that she saw this young naive like nice surgeon and was like and got a nice result I think part of it maybe BDD like by dysmorphia and part of it's like I'm gonna take this guy for everything he has.

• 38:43Bunnie XO?

  I had a client one time and he was an OR an emergency room doctor we were doing like eight balls of cocaine one night and just I mean it was like a party and I looked at him and I remember looking at him and I was just like this guy's energy is so weird and I was like why did you become a doctor you know like I was really curious because his energy was just so weird he's like you want to know why and I was like yeah he said because I love playing god.

• 39:08Bunnie XO?

  And I was like, never going to the hospital again.

• 39:11Speaker 14

  So bad.

• 39:12Bunnie XO?

  Lord.

• 39:13Speaker 14

  I can't even wrap my head around that mentality.

• 39:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:17Speaker 14

  Like it doesn't make any sense to me that like, like, and there's so many out there that are like that. I mean, look, we're all people, you know, I am no better than anyone else. And, and I don't know if he meant that he likes being able to control people's lives, whether they live or die. Like, that's scary.

• 39:33Bunnie XO?

  I think that's what he meant.

• 39:34Speaker 14

  Like, that's pretty scary. What is it, Dr. Death? It's insane, dude. He's a neurosurgeon and he was like paralyzing people and causing all these problems intentionally. And was like bouncing hospital to hospital. Like one hospital didn't want to say anything because they didn't want to kind of, oh crap, people died on our watch and didn't want to say anything. It was bad.

• 39:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh, come on. I see, I just, I could never like that. I have too much of a conscience to ever like have somebody else's blood on my hands like that. I'm actually a huge advocate of natural bodies because once you start cutting on yourself, you're, you're, and getting lipo and stuff like that. Your weight distribution is completely different in your body. Now I collect, I get like saddlebags if I don't work out right or like.

• 40:15Speaker 14

  People ask that a lot.

• 40:16Bunnie XO?

  And it's.

• 40:17Speaker 14

  About lipo. Like one of the most common questions is, I heard if I have lipo, that I'm going to like gain weight somewhere else. So this is what happens. We're all born with a finite amount of fat cells, which means they're determined, right? So if we suction a bunch of fat, a bunch of fat off of your tummy, theoretically that fat is never coming back. But the way that you can regain weight in your stomach is if you gain more weight, the fat cells that are left behind can swell back into the space and you can gain weight.

• 40:41Bunnie XO?

  It's harder to lose.

• 40:42Speaker 14

  Can be harder to lose. The question that women are asking is if I get my tummy lipoed, am I all of a sudden going to gain weight in my hips? It's not that you all of a sudden gain weight in your hips. It's just that you have more fat cells there and they're going to take on volume, maybe before your tummy starts to show. So you may eventually show in your stomach as well, but it might show first in another area. And everyone's kind of different with where they carry their fat. So that's, that's the phenomenon that's happening. It's like, because you have lipo, it doesn't cause fat to go somewhere else. It's just that you have more fat cells in an area where you didn't have lipo. And if you're prone to. gaining weight there, you might show there first and faster than you would in the place where you already had lipo.

• 41:23Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely, but also eat after you have body surgery done, you have to eat correctly. You cannot just get out of surgery and start eating fucking hot cheetos and In-N-Out and all that stuff because one, you're gonna lose all the results you just went and spent money on. The fact that I had the surgery in 2015 and still have maintained these results is because I have the strictest diet ever. That's why women get multiple surgeries and have multiple batches of lipo because they didn't adhere to diets or eating healthy and they just figured that they could just eat whatever they want and you can't. Like you really have to work at keeping weight off no matter what. Today's episode is brought to you by Vinted. Y'all know how it goes. You open your closet and have a million things hanging up, but somehow still feel like you have nothing to wear. That's

• 42:08Bunnie XO?

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• 42:52Bunnie XO?

  a way to clear out some space, make a little extra money and maybe even find something new to love. Give your clothes a second life with Vinted. Download the Vinted app for free to start selling with no seller fees so you keep everything you earn. Can you talk about the sexual assault? What happened? Is this the situation that happened with the mayor?

• 43:10Speaker 15

  Oh, so I was sexually assaulted recently. We are dealing with someone who is habitually a rapist and like rapey vibes, right? Opposite of consent.

• 43:20Bunnie XO?

  Were you raped?

• 43:21Speaker 15

  Yeah.

• 43:22Bunnie XO?

  Sexual assault could be being groped, could be

• 43:25Speaker 15

  Oh, this was like-

• 43:26Bunnie XO?

  when you don't want to be, or like, this, like, you, that's why I asked if you were raped.

• 43:30Speaker 15

  So, yeah, I was drugged and woke up like thinking, like, did someone set me up? Like, are we both in this together? Who would do this? And then I realized it was him who did that, and I was stark naked, did not know where any of my clothes were. Necklace was broken, all that stuff. And it was just like flight, like, I just like ran. I just really didn't know how to behave.

• 43:51Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be tough to hold all that in and not talk about it. I do think talking about it, like you said, is probably the best thing, one, for you, therapy, and two, that's your testimony, you know, something that you've survived and that you've gone through. So maybe people are able to connect with you.

• 44:06Speaker 15

  Doing the best you can, and I think for a lot of other sexual assault victims, you do the best you can when you are the crime scene, straight up. Being sexually assaulted and being like, the crime scene was surreal. It just felt like my brain and my body was not connected. And so I had to do a lot of therapeutic work, somatic experiencing work on that. And I just feel, you know, like, my heart goes out to so many other rape victims who are like going through this stuff for years. It's just, it's really tedious.

• 44:34Bunnie XO?

  Circling back to the traumatic experience of losing her father, do you feel like your mom was not there for you emotionally whenever? Because it plays out on the show, you and your mom have a very tumultuous relationship, where it's like very on again, off again. And I feel as a viewer that your mom almost wasn't emotionally there for you. And do you feel like that has been like a huge thing in you and your mom's relationship even to this day?

• 45:02Speaker 15

  Yes. You see, like, on this show that maybe my mom and I disagree about a lot of things. I would say in all, because I had to like really, you know, like 12-step inventory trauma center, you actually write down, it's called the fifth step, anyone you have relationships with. So I'm writing down my mom, I'm writing down my dad. And what came up, maybe I didn't feel like my mom was supportive. It's actually way more than just not having support, was I seeing. She never saw how much I love someone. She, like, she came up after hearing that he had passed away, that she was happy that he was gone. And I think we might have, we might have our own feelings like I would with Sophia and her boyfriends in those situations.

• 45:43Speaker 15

  Do you know that like I have reasoning and capability of understanding like someone has feelings here and I need to put my stuff to the side. But a lot of what came up at the 12 step trauma center, when you're writing down your relationship is abandonment, abandonment, abandonment. Most people will say, well, I didn't abandon you. Like you were living at my house. I was giving you shelter. I was doing this, but abandonment might come from not being seen, not being feeling safe. I didn't feel safe in that environment.

• 46:12Bunnie XO?

  Tell me about your relationship with Nicole. How did you guys become best friends and are you guys really best friends in real life?

• 46:17Speaker 16

  Yes. She needed an older sister because she's an only child and I needed a younger sister because I'm an only child. Our personalities are so different that it just worked. She's just so sweet and innocent and pure and tiny.

• 46:31Bunnie XO?

  Snooki is sweet and innocent?

• 46:33Speaker 16

  And I look up to her, even though she's literally a foot shorter than me. She doesn't like confrontation where I'll take confrontation head on. She doesn't want to fight. She's, she just wants to have a good time. And her best friend since high school and me started crying over how much we love this girl, how much we love protecting her. So I look up to her for business advice, mother advice. She can take on any task and own it. And she's still Snooki, still wants to party and have a good time. I would be fucking exhausted in bed by 2 P M. We're so ride or die. I don't care who's wrong, who's right. Like I'm going to be in a nursing home with her. She's fucking incredible. We need to fight less. It breaks my heart when we fight.

• 47:16Bunnie XO?

  She has the same self-awareness that you did.

• 47:18Speaker 16

  And I'll tell her like, we need to keep this open dialogue and conversation going because I never want you to think you can't come to me open and honest. So if you need to check mom, you can check your mother. And I know if there's an older demo that watches you will disagree with that. That's the problem.

• 47:35Bunnie XO?

  I think so too. I feel like that generation stifled a lot of their children's voices.

• 47:40Speaker 16

  Yes.

• 47:40Bunnie XO?

  Where I let Bailey come on the podcast this week. I'm getting a lot of hate for letting a 16 year old talk about her trauma, but. My, that's what my platform is about.

• 47:49Speaker 16

  Yeah.

• 47:50Bunnie XO?

  So when my own child comes to me and says, Mom, I want to tell my story so that I can help other kids my age. What am I supposed to do? Tell her no? No, you have to wait till you're 18 to, to speak about things that have happened to you? It's, it's wild.

• 48:03Speaker 16

  Do as I say. You're not allowed to have a voice. It's a one-sided conversation. And I needed to educate myself on how do I break down her walls, make her feel safe and loved while disciplining her?

• 48:16Bunnie XO?

  That's what a mom's supposed to do. That's the definition of a mom to me.

• 48:19Speaker 17

  He pretty much started in the mob at a very young age. Brooklyn and Staten Island is kind of like the breeding ground for the mafia. My father grew up, you know, intrigued with that lifestyle. My grandfather came over from Sicily and, you know, they, he was on the opposite side of the street. My grandfather was a legitimate guy. The men on the other side of the street, you know, there was always respect. The way my grandfather respected them, you know, my father was always intrigued. And my father said, you know, how do you know this one particular guy that my grandfather knew back from Sicily? And he said, he's a bad guy, but he's one of our bad guys, you know, he's good to us. So that always stuck in my father's head because he's like, well, you know, what did he mean by that? But the mafia took care of their communities. They took care of their own. Cozinosha is this thing of ours. And what it is, is the mafia actually protected and policed their own communities.

• 49:02Speaker 17

  Like back in the day, if someone couldn't come in a community and hurt a little kid or rape a girl, you're going to get killed. The mafia protected their own. Yeah, they didn't go to the police. They went to the mafia. They, you know, kind of migrated to New York and Sicilians, they were immigrants, you know, they were trying to make money. So the mafia started rackets, like where they got into the garment industries, the, the construction industry. It really was about their own communities and benefiting themselves.

• 49:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:30Speaker 17

  And when you become part of that lifestyle, you understand if you betray that lifestyle, death is the, you know, that's the answer. That's what happens if you betray that lifestyle. So that's what Cozinosha is. It's a community of men that came together to be able to provide for their families through crimes or whatever. But you're supposed to always be loyal to that lifestyle. And if you're not, it's death is the, is the penalty.

• 49:52Bunnie XO?

  I actually have a new found respect for your father. You know, you hear about Sammy the Bull and you hear like, oh, he's a rat. He's this, he's that. When you have the world coming against you like that, I would have probably done the same thing your dad did.

• 50:06Speaker 17

  Originally, my father was in jail for a year. He was gonna fight the case, but it became the lawyers reached out to my father and said, John's controlling the defense. John doesn't want the lawyer to be able to have a lawyer-client meeting without John being present. He wants to know everything that goes on. I just believe that he set my father up.

• 50:24Bunnie XO?

  Do you think he was building the case with the feds?

• 50:26Speaker 17

  With John saying, well, I lost control of Sammy the Bull. He killed this guy and took over this business. He killed this guy and took over that business. But my father was very loyal to Cozenooshan. He didn't kill anyone unless it came orders from the boss.

• 50:37Bunnie XO?

  Gotti was pretty much turning on your dad. And your dad kept warning him and was like, hey, man, this is not how it happened. Trying to separate the trial.

• 50:46Speaker 17

  He faced murder trials before. My father, to do that, I couldn't understand because that's so not who he was.

• 50:52Bunnie XO?

  Would he still be in prison had he not?

• 50:55Speaker 17

  And it wasn't even about life. I think my father at that point was the betrayal. Because I'm indicted on murders because of you.

• 51:01Bunnie XO?

  He was hurt and he felt disrespected.

• 51:03Speaker 17

  John's like, oh, I was just blowing off steam. And my father's like, oh, blowing off steam, but now I'm facing a life sentence? And now you're telling me I can't defend myself? That was the the crumble of the Sammy the Bull, John Gotti relationship. I mean, why don't you just stay true to who you were? Like, that's, why don't you just kill him? Whoever sat down with him, he'll tell you the same thing. He struggles with it. Maybe he should have killed John in jail. Like, honestly, I just felt betrayed by a brother. I just, I started thinking of the life and he was like, I was just done. I just threw in the towel and that was my way out.

• 51:33Speaker 13

  Adam and I actually had one threesome with another dude in our personal life, like, very early before we were like officially boyfriend and girlfriend. We always thought it was hot. But I feel like Adam didn't want to admit to himself that he thought it was hot. Because at the time we did that, I was just some girl. And then when I became like his woman, it was like, well, is it wrong for me to actually want to do that?

• 51:54Speaker 17

  To get off on.

• 51:55Speaker 13

  With my like primary like lover and not just some girl.

• 51:58Bunnie XO?

  Does he like watching you with other men?

• 52:01Speaker 13

  I would say that he enjoys it, even though maybe he doesn't always want to actually like admit it like that. Like, I'm like, your dick got harder. Like, I know you enjoy it. Like, it's in my mouth. I feel it.

• 52:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, us women, us women know our men.

• 52:14Speaker 13

  Yes.

• 52:14Bunnie XO?

  I hate that everybody online is like calling him a cuck and stuff like that because it's like, you guys are just literally having fun living out people's fantasies. And I, I feel like everybody's always trying to put people in a box. It's like, everybody has to have a stereotype or some fucking sort of name. And it's just ridiculous. Adam's been fucking different girls for years now. And that's, you know, like, your guys' thing. You always wanted to sleep with other men, or you just didn't know how to ask him?

• 52:39Speaker 13

  Um, I wouldn't say always, no.

• 52:41Bunnie XO?

  Finally, time.

• 52:42Speaker 13

  I think it was like, maybe four or five years into it where I was kind of just like, like, I know that I'm leaving something on the table by not doing something with another man, like, because my fans have been asking for it for so long. They're like, hey, we love you and Adam together, but we really want to see you with someone else. And obviously, there was part of me that was like, curious about it sexually, but mostly from a business point of view. I was like, hey, like, I really want to do this for my OnlyFans. And it was pretty much always a no, like, that is not on the table, until eventually, it was, it was a yes. And I can't really say like, what exactly made Adam change his mind. But I think...

• 53:23Bunnie XO?

  He brought us all the monetary value in it.

• 53:25Speaker 13

  I think it, like, part of it is that he's always been a little open. It's more like that the world is not open, you know? Like, during that whole, we call the Jason Love saga, like, he, he was not painted in a, in a nice way. And even now, it's like, you know, that's not your wife, that's everyone's wife. Like, that's how everyone sees him.

• 53:44Bunnie XO?

  So take me to the last day of him being alive. He was found passed away on the 5th, but we had a maid in the house.

• 53:52Speaker 18

  So the maid was in the house.

• 53:54Bunnie XO?

  I think Aaron told her, hey, don't talk to Melanie, because that's what he did to all of his team. When he would be upset with me, he'd be like, don't talk to Melanie. How long was she working for him before she, before he passed away?

• 54:04Speaker 18

  I think we knew her for like, two years, maybe a year and a half. And she was getting him a couple of jobs, but a lot of jobs got canceled because of the trolls and things like that. They would call the events and say, no, we don't want Aaron doing the celebrity event. One after the other, everything just hurt him. He dealt with the hurt by taking pills, I think.

• 54:21Bunnie XO?

  Just going deeper into his addiction.

• 54:22Speaker 18

  And drinking or doing whatever.

• 54:24Bunnie XO?

  So that last day was he still huffing also?

• 54:27Speaker 18

  I don't really like to see like anything from that week. It's just too hard for me. Cause then I can't sleep for days when I see stuff.

• 54:34Bunnie XO?

  I don't know how you're holding it together as well as you are. That's a lot to go through and then to lose somebody so suddenly, you know? He's on live huffing paint allegedly.

• 54:45Speaker 18

  He had an appointment to go to an intake for rehab on Friday, November fifth.

• 54:50Bunnie XO?

  So in his mind, he probably thinks it's like one of those, his last hurrahs before he has to go to rehab.

• 54:57Speaker 18

  Cause you know, I like. Thought about it that way.

• 54:59Bunnie XO?

  Moving forward, Aaron always fought with you online and there was a, I, I watched a clip of the live that he did before he passed away. And you're blowing up his phone and finally, one of the last things you say to him is you are going to die.

• 55:15Speaker 18

  Yeah, I just, I hate thinking about a lot. Like, why did I, like, I wish I knew how to handle an addict better.

• 55:24Bunnie XO?

  But I, I mean, to me, I didn't take that as you trying to be hurtful. I took it as you saying like, you're going to die.

• 55:33Speaker 18

  It was kind of like, honestly, I would have to say, I didn't know how to handle it anymore. And I just wanted people to know that he was like, what was going on because I was scared.

• 55:44Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 55:44Speaker 18

  And I wanted people to possibly help, you know, but.

• 55:47Bunnie XO?

  Uh, that's what I took it as. I took it as you're like crying out for help.

• 55:51Speaker 18

  Anymore. I was like, I was, I think I was just so tired that week and so exhausted from all the craziness that was going on. I didn't know how to handle it.

• 56:00Bunnie XO?

  Can you take?

• 56:01Speaker 18

  I think my body just shut down because.

• 56:03Bunnie XO?

  And your brain.

• 56:04Speaker 18

  And my brain.

• 56:05Bunnie XO?

  When you're.

• 56:05Speaker 18

  I didn't know what to do anymore.

• 56:06Bunnie XO?

  When you're in those types of relationships, they, they consider the trauma that gets caused to your brain like brain damage. Because it, it's like years of brain damage, especially being, I'm not calling Aaron a narcissist, but being in a narcissistic relationship or toxic relationship. It causes brain damage to you because it's that hurtful and just the whole, you know. Toxicity of the relationship takes its toll on you emotionally and it's not good. So I have a real brothel menu in the bag and can I pull it, can I pull it out and look at it? All right, we got the Mustang Ranch menu here, guys. Has a little intro and then it gets to the pleasure menu. Special shows lingerie show, vibrator show, shower show, um, two or more girl show,

• 56:49Bunnie XO?

  drag party, sexy cinema. What's a sexy cinema?

• 56:53Speaker 19

  We watch a movie, but we're not really watching the movie.

• 56:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh, gotcha. Okay. Does that involve like everything or is it just like, and is everything timed?

• 57:00Speaker 19

  That's something you work out with each client and we don't try to sell time. Obviously, everything does have to be timed though.

• 57:06Bunnie XO?

  And then it moves on to foreplay and it says nude massage, breast massage, French teas, fire and ice, wild horse chair party. What is that?

• 57:16Speaker 20

  That intertwined with, it looks like a tantric chair. So you can do like a hundred and twenty sexual positions on this chair.

• 57:21Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 57:23Speaker 20

  What's the most requested?

• 57:24Speaker 19

  The standard half and half.

• 57:25Speaker 20

  A little sucky sucky.

• 57:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it says full pleasure right here. So they got a straight lay. They got a wild horse roundup, a half and half, and then they have a menage a trois. Oh, and then we got specialties on the back. Hold on one second. In ranch or off ranch dates? So you guys are allowed to go off the ranch with the dates?

• 57:42Speaker 19

  Yes.

• 57:43Bunnie XO?

  And what does that entail? Like what's something like that?

• 57:45Speaker 19

  I just went on one recently before I left work and came here to do this. But we just went up to North Lake Tahoe because that's still on the Nevada side. So we have an escorting license for anywhere inside Nevada. We just went up to Tahoe for the day and had lunch and did a little shopping and came back.

• 57:59Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 58:00Speaker 19

  Hung out privately and yeah.

• 58:02Speaker 20

  We only have a broth license in Story County. So she can go on the date, but then they have to come back to the ranch and have sex.

• 58:08Bunnie XO?

  Working at the ranch, what is like one of the funniest stories you could tell me that has happened there?

• 58:13Speaker 19

  Girl, this one time this man hit us all up on the email and he was like, I want eight girls.

• 58:18Bunnie XO?

  So he hit you up and he was like, I want eight girls to ram me in my ass.

• 58:22Speaker 19

  Yes. I'm on a two month trip. At the end of this trip, this is the cherry on top. And we're like, you're bullshitting.

• 58:28Bunnie XO?

  He shows up.

• 58:29Speaker 19

  He shows up.

• 58:30Bunnie XO?

  Picks eight of you and you guys all go in this room and take turns just plowing him.

• 58:36Speaker 19

  Yeah, in the Mustang. Dungeon.

• 58:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh shit.

• 58:39Speaker 19

  And I didn't have my strap on because I wasn't expecting him to come to the appointment. My girl, she had an extra, but it was the BBC. Fine, I'll just go last. So I'm waiting, waiting, puffing my little vape pen in the corner.

• 58:48Bunnie XO?

  You're just watching this dude getting railed?

• 58:50Speaker 19

  Yes.

• 58:50Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Puffing my vape in the corner, watching Tom get railed.

• 58:54Speaker 19

  My move my big black fake cock. The God and everybody's been in his ass and I think now is my moment. Go and I just, and I don't normally do things like, I'm like the girl next door. I do vanilla parties and I just go full for it. And this poor man screams bloody murder and he's like, let me up, let me up. And he runs to the bathroom and I'm like, oh shit. And all the girls are looking at me like, what the fuck did you do that for?

• 59:14Bunnie XO?

  What happened?

• 59:15Speaker 19

  You didn't use any lube, you didn't slide it in slow? I was like, I thought it was lubed up.

• 59:20Bunnie XO?

  Damn, you just went in dry.

• 59:22Speaker 19

  I went in dry, full force.

• 59:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh, holy shit. Was he alright? Did he ever come back?

• 59:27Speaker 19

  He has been emailing Madame Tarte to come back.

• 59:29Bunnie XO?

  Son of a bitch, he loved it.

• 59:32Speaker 21

  But I got a call from him one night. We always have this deal. He was like, if I die, you get my bird. He had an African gray parrot his whole fucking life. This was his best friend. He had a love relationship with this bird for real. He was, this was his, his soulmate was his bird. And he was like, when I die, she's yours, right? And so I got a voicemail on my phone one night that's like, hey man, I could hear it in his way. Hey man, you know, something's came up, uh, Ruby's yours. I'm like, what the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck's going on? So I get in my car and I started driving down to Long Beach and I'm calling him over and over and over and over and over and over and over. And he finally answers, like, it's already done, man. Don't even, just turn around. Just turn around. It's already done. The deal's already done. Just turn around. I'm like, dude, I'm 20 minutes away. Just hold on. Just hold on. Just fucking hold on.

• 1:00:12Speaker 21

  Dude, I get to fucking Long Beach. I kick open the door and he's like sitting there with this like fucking wrist in the air, like in a pool of blood and shit. And I walk in, flip on the pool of blood, fall into it and I fart, fucking just start slapping him. Slapping him, just like, what's your favorite Allman Brothers song? What's your favorite Allman Brothers song? He like, his eyes come open. He's like whipping post. If anyone who knows the song whipping post, like, it's like, I feel like dying. It was like the craziest I'd just say in that say.

• 1:00:37Speaker 19

  That is so traumatic for you to have to.

• 1:00:39Speaker 21

  Very traumatic.

• 1:00:39Speaker 19

  Like I'm trying not to cry.

• 1:00:40Speaker 21

  Very, very traumatic, you know? But that was when I went, started going really off the rails. Cause this was still drug addict taste, you know? I went really off the rails.

• 1:00:48Bunnie XO?

  That's a lot of trauma.

• 1:00:50Speaker 21

  Scaring my family, won't pick up the phone. You know, the crazy thing is like when, when I got into my car, after the ambulance came, picked him up, I was like, you son of a bitch. I was like, you, you were giving me a story, weren't you? You were giving me some kind of crazy story from my life, like, weren't you? Like, you son of a bitch. Do I like just die alone? Like, for real? Like, is that my journey? And like, like, look, like, like, obviously it sounds whatever, but it's also like so romanticized to me. Cause I'm like, tortured, locked up artist in the middle of the woods, painting and smoking cigarettes.

• 1:01:21Bunnie XO?

  You're not gonna die alone.

• 1:01:23Speaker 21

  You know what? I, I know when I say that, it sounds like one of those things, but I am like, I'm such a lover boy in those things where I'm just like, yeah, I know it sounds like, like sad, but to me, it's so romanticized and so just like, you know what, like, I've, I've had it, I've felt it. And like, we'll, we'll see what happens, but I'm.

• 1:01:42Bunnie XO?

  You have manifested, not that a woman will make you any more than you already are your whole by yourself, but you have manifested everything in your fucking life.

• 1:01:51Speaker 21

  Yeah.

• 1:01:51Bunnie XO?

  You are gonna manifest the perfect woman for you.

• 1:01:54Speaker 21

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Bunnie XO?

  You just have to believe that.

• 1:01:55Speaker 21

  True.

• 1:01:56Bunnie XO?

  Like you have believed in yourself and everything else that you have done in this life. You have to start believing it. Stop romanticizing being alone and start romanticizing falling in love. Start visualizing your perfect girl.

• 1:02:06Speaker 21

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:07Bunnie XO?

  I would tell you a trick to do, but I don't know if I'll get in trouble on the podcast, but it's, it's, it's like a, um.

• 1:02:13Speaker 21

  Well, then cut it if it is, but tell me.

• 1:02:14Bunnie XO?

  So when you're masturbating.

• 1:02:16Speaker 21

  Yeah.

• 1:02:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Me, me gets like, oh, here we go.

• 1:02:19Speaker 21

  Hard. This is great.

• 1:02:21Bunnie XO?

  No, when you're masturbating, envision the perfect woman that you want.

• 1:02:24Speaker 21

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Bunnie XO?

  And masturbate to her and to you, you know, fruition.

• 1:02:27Speaker 21

  That's great because I don't watch porn.

• 1:02:29Bunnie XO?

  They say that if you do that, you're literally manifesting the person that you want. And these people will start coming into your life. It's real. Try it. Let me know how it goes.

• 1:02:37Speaker 21

  Uh-oh.

• 1:02:38Bunnie XO?

  Call me afterwards.

• 1:02:39Speaker 21

  I'm like, I gotta get past some of this previous manifesting that I've been doing.

• 1:02:45Speaker 22

  I like

• 1:02:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, clear the slate.

• 1:02:46Speaker 22

  Should have told me that like twenty years ago, maybe?

• 1:02:49Bunnie XO?

  Clear the slate. So if you're jerking off to celebrities, you're manifesting celebrities.

• 1:02:53Speaker 22

  Yeah.

• 1:02:54Bunnie XO?

  You see that? You know, so.

• 1:02:56Speaker 22

  Word, word. I'm thinking, I'm thinking maybe the therapist was wrong about the whole like start of the trauma. I think we just actually found the reason.

• 1:03:06Bunnie XO?

  Let's kind of paint a picture about, you know, what happened with your grandfather. So there was an undercover agent named Joe.

• 1:03:13Speaker 23

  Joe Pistone, you got it again.

• 1:03:14Bunnie XO?

  Infiltrated the mob as Donnie Brasco.

• 1:03:17Speaker 23

  Well, everybody thinks that my grandfather was the one who introduced him to everyone. He wasn't. My grandfather got introduced to Pistone from another man. So the guy introduced Pistone, then my grandfather and him became extremely close.

• 1:03:29Bunnie XO?

  Kind of had a gambling problem. Enter Joe Pistone, AKA Donnie Brasco, presents himself as this jewel thief, hustler, whatever. And he starts working with your grandfather to initially start paying back his debts, right?

• 1:03:42Speaker 23

  They were making money. Whatever he did with that money, yes, it was definitely to pay debt, probably to go pay some more, probably to go buy us gifts, whatever it was. It was for his lifestyle and to pay off debt, but also to keep gambling. This man was so engulfed in this lifestyle that I think he never would have quit. Like they pulled him off because supposedly there was going to be a hit on my grandfather.

• 1:04:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:03Speaker 23

  So they, they closed down the whole operation. My grandfather's body language changed differently so much that day. It was, it was always about me and fussing and fussing, but he became like talking in the corner, like not himself, like I could read his body language. He was like, you know, he took whatever happened to him like a man. He never ratted, he never cooperated, but he was still nervous because a lot of stuff was happening. He knew something was going down.

• 1:04:23Speaker 24

  I OD'd over this. I just lost my whole life. Couldn't come up for air. Jennifer wasn't talking to me for a year and a half. Everything in my life was falling apart. My son didn't want to talk to me. Nobody wanted to talk to me.

• 1:04:34Bunnie XO?

  You lost your father too during.

• 1:04:36Speaker 24

  Everything just started piling up and piling up and piling up and piling up. I gave up.

• 1:04:41Bunnie XO?

  When did you overdose?

• 1:04:42Speaker 24

  May. I just like, like lost my shit, man. September 18th, someone gave me a bag of fentanyl when it was supposed to be cocaine.

• 1:04:52Bunnie XO?

  Was it somebody you trusted or you just got it from a dealer?

• 1:04:54Speaker 24

  I said, make a phone call, do me a favor, da, da, da. And she's like, okay. I, I vouched for him. I said, okay. I died in a restaurant in Florida. I was dead, intubated for three days. No one in my family came to the hospital and I spent nine days there. Learning how to walk again. That was it for me. I said, okay.

• 1:05:13Bunnie XO?

  You did a line of this stuff and how long?

• 1:05:15Speaker 24

  I don't remember anything.

• 1:05:17Bunnie XO?

  You don't? Okay.

• 1:05:17Speaker 24

  Three days are wiped from my brain.

• 1:05:19Bunnie XO?

  Literally, you just, that was it. You didn't feel anything?

• 1:05:22Speaker 24

  I don't know. I don't know what happened at all. I don't remember anything.

• 1:05:26Bunnie XO?

  And why did nobody from your family come see you? They were just all mad?

• 1:05:28Speaker 24

  They said I wasn't gonna make it and my family didn't wanna.

• 1:05:31Bunnie XO?

  They just couldn't do it enough.

• 1:05:33Speaker 24

  I mean, and I don't blame them. I don't. Uh, I've put them through hell. Hell I put them through.

• 1:05:41Speaker 25

  I was so wrapped up in wrestling or whatever that I just, I didn't enjoy myself as a child. And when I was in school, I got bullied. You know, I would talk about earlier. It was good having that family, but in school it was rough. My mom actually went missing for six months when I was a kid too. And when I was in school, people would bully me for that. And I remember I got kicked out because I beat the shit out of this girl. Because she said something about my mom. And so when she was on the toilet, she was, she was taking a shit. But I kicked in the door and I was swinging on her with the fucking trousers down to her ankles and stuff like that.

• 1:06:07Bunnie XO?

  I love how violent you are.

• 1:06:08Speaker 25

  Spitting on her. I was like, you fucker piece of shit. And then.

• 1:06:11Bunnie XO?

  Why did mom disappear for six months? She just?

• 1:06:13Speaker 25

  She had a mental breakdown. So my mom, when she was younger, she was also abused by her stepdad and she was also gang. And so she went through a really tough time and her family ditched her. They didn't believe her. And my dad did though. He was just like, come here, you know? And he took care of her and um, but she had a really, really tough time getting over that and.

• 1:06:35Bunnie XO?

  I don't think that's something you'll ever get over. I think it kinda takes a piece of you and you just, it just learns to feel different.

• 1:06:41Speaker 25

  Yeah. And she had like an eating disorder along with it. So whenever she, you know, she's feeling bad, all the weight just drops off. She stops eating completely and she gets so sick that she can barely walk around.

• 1:06:51Bunnie XO?

  What was the light at the end of the tunnel up for you? What was the final straw that, you know, those tapes came out? You said you tried to commit suicide on FaceTime with your mom and uh, and thank God it didn't work. But in that moment that you're thinking about taking your life, was that the moment that you were like, something's gotta give. I have to change?

• 1:07:08Speaker 25

  Actually, no, it wasn't that moment. I was still really low. It took a while still to get over that. But I remember going into a grocery store and my hair was matted. I was trying to cover it with a cap, you know, and again, really skinny. I was in the. Like an aisle and this little girl came past and she just thought I was this fucking wonder woman superhero like she was just she hadn't read the internet she's too young you know she just looks at me as Paige at the time you know and she thought I was just the coolest thing since sliced bread. I realized at that moment because I always thought that role models were perfect right but they're not. Role model is not perfect. The thing that makes you a role model is the fact that you fuck up but you end up getting out of it and going on the other side and like you know taking ownership of that and kind of helping people get through those kind of things you know.

• 1:07:46Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. That gave me goosebumps.

• 1:07:47Speaker 25

  If I look at this little girl and she's looking at me not knowing like anything that's going on in the world but she just thinks I'm the coolest thing ever. You know and it kind of like makes me think about that and I'm like what the fuck am I doing? Head with waking up one day with the person you don't want to be with and the switch kind of flip on there being like what the fuck am I doing? And everything just starts like falling into place. It was so weird. It all happened like very suddenly like everything was just like flip, flip, flip.

• 1:08:11Bunnie XO?

  It was like an epiphany.

• 1:08:12Speaker 25

  Yeah, I'm like what the fuck is happening? I woke up one day like that and then I called WWE and they bought my flight and took me back to Florida and took care of me and I got back into training, training again and then I start wrestling again and it was like this big moment and then bam, my neck gets kicked. And I have to retire, much stronger mentally that everyone was really worried like oh my god, she's gonna fucking freak out again. I was at such a good stage in my life at that point coming out of it. I was like I'm never gonna hit that rock bottom again.

• 1:08:38Bunnie XO?

  You learned your lesson.

• 1:08:39Speaker 25

  Yeah.

• 1:08:39Bunnie XO?

  That's the most important part I think of fucking up. It's okay to fuck up but learn your fucking lesson and don't fucking let yourself become that person again.

• 1:08:47Speaker 26

  I knew things were going on. I, you know, they were like.

• 1:08:50Bunnie XO?

  You always know when they're cheating.

• 1:08:51Speaker 26

  Yeah, you always know.

• 1:08:52Bunnie XO?

  It's not, it's never fucking not noticeable.

• 1:08:54Speaker 26

  But I remember I met him at the Hilton at Universal and I just like was like, do you want this anymore? He's like, I'm gonna go to New York, I'm gonna go do Letterman and when I come back, we're gonna start fresh. He's like, I want you and the baby, you're my girls, we're gonna start the, you know, he's like, go, he's like, go buy some art for the house, go get some, you know, new things for the house and when I come back, we're gonna start fresh. And I was like, okay. That was like on a Friday.

• 1:09:13Bunnie XO?

  Do you think he really genuinely in that moment meant that? Or do you think he was pacifying the situation because he wanted to avoid confrontation?

• 1:09:21Speaker 26

  I'll never know.

• 1:09:21Bunnie XO?

  You'll never know.

• 1:09:22Speaker 26

  I'll never know. I was in our home, our mansion in Bel Air. My mother was there, my girlfriend. And we were watching the Latin Grammy Awards. They were like, Oscar De La Hoya is about to hit the red carpet. Meanwhile, I'm calling him like, hey, honey, did you get home alright? We all looked at each other like, Oscar De La Hoya is on the red carpet. Like, what the, the fuck is he doing there? This is, and it's in LA, you know, so we're like, wait, what? And they go to a commercial break. What is he doing there? Why the fuck am I not there? Like, what's happened? Comes back and there he is, holding hands with his now ex-wife, Millie. And I just was like, huh. The next day, they had a lawyer come to the house and say, you and the baby need to, you know, need to move out. You know, this is so crazy. This, he wanted to meet me. And so I went and I met him like the next day and I, and he, and it was the first time I'd seen him since.

• 1:10:01Bunnie XO?

  How long, uh, after this?

• 1:10:03Speaker 26

  It was about a month since the Latin Grammy Awards.

• 1:10:05Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:10:05Speaker 26

  Like, I don't want to legally go after you. Like, can we, like, can you help me? Like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Like, where am I gonna live? Like, and he goes, you know, you already took me to court for child support and I'm not happy about that. And he goes, and if you sue me for palimony, he goes, I'm not gonna see you or the baby till she's sixteen years old. Was like, no fucking way. No way would you do that. And he goes, I have, I have more money than God. Don't be too hard on me. And he left.

• 1:10:28Bunnie XO?

  That gave me goosebumps, dude.

• 1:10:30Speaker 26

  And he fucking left and I sat in that car. I'm only like crying. I sat in the car and I cried for like, fuck, man. And I, and I just was like, there's no way. But he didn't see the baby and I till she was about sixteen years old.

• 1:10:41Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:10:43Speaker 26

  Yeah, he didn't.

• 1:10:44Bunnie XO?

  My heart just dropped. My mom told me that I was born into just a bunch of Kentucky white trash witches. There was like seven of them and they were just like, all had gifts. They all were like spiritual.

• 1:10:54Speaker 27

  Yeah, she, you got from her. There's something hidden about it. There's a tie to your family. And it's, I forgive me for saying this, it's connected to war back in the time. So when you say warrior, but it's connected to like American war. And I almost want to say in the Appalachians, your family was connected to that. So there's, there's hierarchy in the family unit. And then your mother's side cast out over here. I'm getting that. And it makes her nervous that you're gonna find this out because it's gonna undermine who you thought you were. Not the witch part. That's probably why you were pushed over here. It's not what you think. She was hidden. Your mom was hidden, so they didn't tell her the full truth. Even if they told her truth, it was bits and pieces and not fully true.

• 1:11:34Bunnie XO?

  Can I stop finding out shit about my weird ass fucking family? This life, I'm so tired of it.

• 1:11:39Speaker 27

  You have guides around you. You have a lot of people. You have like wild lifetimes with very indigenous people. So, meaning you have that in your background as well. So there's like lineage all the way. You have a lot of people around you. Like from many, many, obviously it's many lifetimes because it wouldn't be in the most recent three that you've been that. He manifested, I think it was Elvis's birthday. Somebody emailed me the other night. I was talking about this. So I have like your sets, like a couch that was behind me and it had a blue throw on it. It was in my other studio.

• 1:12:07Bunnie XO?

  They're all crying over here. It made me cry too.

• 1:12:10Speaker 27

  I am, I'm sorry.

• 1:12:12Bunnie XO?

  No, don't apologize. You're being vulnerable.

• 1:12:14Speaker 27

  It's, yeah, it's the, the one way to get at me is to say something about my kids. Keithy came through. So I, I was sitting and the, the two chairs were behind me and people started going, look, look what's happening behind you. So I turn, I can't see anything because the light's in my face and I don't see anything. They're like, there's the face, there's the face. And I'm like, I'm live streaming. So I can hear them, I mean, see the thing. And I'm like, oh, it's gotta be Jim Morrison. I'm screwing around. I have a picture. It's Keith's profile from his picture. Someone took a picture of me with it behind it and attached Keith's face beside it to show that, like he manifests, he manifests all the time. So I get comfort in that.

• 1:12:52Speaker 27

  Although I'll tell you, as a medium who's lived through this, I still want my son here. There is nothing you can tell a mother or a person who's lost somebody that makes them feel better. So I don't even think I make people feel better. When I tell them, if I tell them, I, because I miss my son. So you can tell me stuff? Doesn't matter. I want my Keith here.

• 1:13:12Bunnie XO?

  I think your soul is always gonna ache for him.

• 1:13:15Speaker 27

  But it has brought me so many lovely people who, so many people reached out. Oh my God, I was dying, like.

• 1:13:22Bunnie XO?

  So you were doing fighting, you were doing Playboy and you were also dealing with an abusive relationship.

• 1:13:27Speaker 27

  Yes.

• 1:13:27Bunnie XO?

  An extremely abusive relationship.

• 1:13:29Speaker 27

  You told me one day we're gonna laugh about him and it was so hard to even think about that because I thought the pain would never go away. I thought I would never get away from him. Came into my life.

• 1:13:38Bunnie XO?

  Good looking dude.

• 1:13:39Speaker 27

  Good looking.

• 1:13:41Bunnie XO?

  Little rich boy.

• 1:13:42Speaker 27

  He slowly started verbally abusing me and then he started putting his hands on me. The worst beating.

• 1:13:47Speaker 28

  I've ever had my whole life have not been in a ring. It was from that man. He chipped my teeth, grabbed me one time, even on my chest and squeezed so hard that it looked like my implant had popped. I had to go to the doctor. It was completely black. Left a handprint on me.

• 1:13:59Bunnie XO?

  I remember that.

• 1:14:00Speaker 28

  He threw me out of a car, did degrading stuff to me, got me on the ground, was beating me up. Elijah had to jump on him when he was like five years old. My son had to see this man abuse me because I thought that that was normal because the way I grew up and it wasn't and that is not normal.

• 1:14:16Bunnie XO?

  And it was crazy because from the outside looking in, you would think that you guys had the perfect relationship of what was going on because everything was like, you know, you guys had a beautiful house, drove nice cars, fucking you were in Playboy, you're fucking, you know, fighting in the ring. And then behind closed doors, this is what's really going on. You were living an absolute nightmare. I don't know how many times I had to go over there because he was doing something fucking weird, man. This dude was so sick mentally that he would try to manipulate our friendship. He said that I fucking sucked him off one time.

• 1:14:44Speaker 28

  He wanted to make me think that nobody was there for me and I had nobody on my side because that's what abusers do.

• 1:14:49Bunnie XO?

  It was sick, like there was no links that this man wouldn't go to, to try to control you, isolate you from everybody around you. I've got to get her out of this situation, but really, nobody could get you out of that situation until you were ready to get out of that situation because it is so hard to leave an abusive relationship. Well, we were also using a lot of drugs back then.

• 1:15:08Speaker 28

  Well, cocaine is a hell of a drug, right?

• 1:15:11Bunnie XO?

  We partook and a lot. Do you remember that one time I overdosed on glass at fucking Ben's house? Ben, the fucking hot paint, Huffer?

• 1:15:18Speaker 28

  Oh, we were just talking about, me and my dad were just talking about him.

• 1:15:20Bunnie XO?

  We had started partying at such a young age that as we got older, the problem with Vegas is, and I mean, I love Vegas, I always have a love for it because that's what, that was our hometown, but going to the bar and having 10 drinks and doing a fucking eight ball of cocaine as normal behavior every night. It's like if I, that's how in Vegas, that's, it's normalized.

• 1:15:39Speaker 28

  Yeah.

• 1:15:39Bunnie XO?

  So we thought this was just a lifestyle. We didn't think that it was a habit, you know? Whereas I found out down the road later on that I had a fucking habit, you know? I don't know about you.

• 1:15:50Speaker 28

  Well, yeah, I mean, people were drinking and partying in my family and they were popping pills. And it's like somebody was handing me a joint from a young age. And because of that, it caused me to have a problem. So I thought it was normal. And then by the time I realized it wasn't, it was too late. I'm lucky to be alive. We are lucky to be alive.

• 1:16:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:16:07Speaker 28

  Because that was, that was rough. You know, I couldn't imagine my kids doing that.

• 1:16:11Bunnie XO?

  We were just talking about that before the mics were going on. And I was like, I think that, I think of how Bailey is 16 and how I had already been gone away from home for two years.

• 1:16:19Speaker 28

  Yeah.

• 1:16:20Bunnie XO?

  At her age, and it's fucking wild. And you know, it's like, I would never want her to have to go through what I went through. But it's just like a different generation.

• 1:16:29Speaker 28

  Yeah.

• 1:16:29Bunnie XO?

  Type thing that we just really experienced so much so early on. But I'm glad that we are where we are now because at least we found our way out of it. Some people don't find their way out of it. Can we circle back to your son that you just lost in 2023? Can we talk about that and what happened?

• 1:16:44Speaker 29

  I don't get emotional. He, he wanted to go home. He said he wanted to be with God, that we could happen. I was in Detroit, he was in LA and he called me, said, I need to see you. And I said, well, I'll be there tomorrow. And I flew to LA. We spent the most beautiful time together, just him and I. Talked and we ate and we laughed and we had a great time. So I left on a Friday and said, make a promise that we would never go a day without speaking. And I said, okay, you know, not thinking like us. Okay, I got home, I called him, I said, I made it. He said, okay, talk to you tomorrow. She already came, didn't talk to him, right? Hmm, you know, still didn't think nothing of it. Sunday came, I was calling him, didn't talk to him. I panicked automatically. I said, God, this not supposed to happen. We're supposed to talk every day.

• 1:17:28Speaker 29

  Something is wrong, something is wrong. Calling his wife, which I never do. Where's Jason, I haven't heard from him. And she said, well, he's okay. He's at home, he's, he's just going through a lot. And I said, well, what is he going through? You know, we were talking, we were chatting. I said, I'm about to run in Starbucks, I'll call you back. So by the time I got my Starbucks, got back in the car, called her back and she was like, he's gone. I said, who's gone? She said, Jay's gone. I'm like, oh, where? She said, he's gone.

• 1:17:55Speaker 29

  Just that fast.

• 1:17:57Bunnie XO?

  So he took his own life? Oh my gosh, I am so sorry.

• 1:18:01Speaker 29

  Just that fast.

• 1:18:03Bunnie XO?

  So let's circle back to when you guys did get indicted. How much time did you get? How much time did your son get? And how much time did Terry get?

• 1:18:10Speaker 29

  I got fifty seven months. My son got eleven years. One of my nephews got eight years. One got nine years. One got eleven and one got thirteen. Terry got thirty years. He came home on the CARES Act, so. But Demetrius is not home.

• 1:18:24Bunnie XO?

  You spoke a lot about being in prison, what you had to do, how you had a change of heart. And in prison is pretty much like your lowest.

• 1:18:32Speaker 29

  That's your lowest. Like I said, stripped of everything. This is my time to reflect on how did I get here? I walked on that yard. I was in the middle of a sandstorm and I looked up at the sky and I told God, please help me. Why am I here? Please change me. Let me figure out why I'm here. I knew God, we called on God all the time. You know, when you're in the streets, you pray, God, let me get through this. Okay, God, I'm, I'm out, you know.

• 1:18:55Bunnie XO?

  One more time.

• 1:18:56Speaker 29

  One more time. You know, you got all this drugs. You driving or you doing something? Come on, God, thank you, God. Blessing him for the wrong things, you know? And when I end up in prison, I realized that I had to call on him much more than I ever had to call on him in my life. Once I was in prison, I was alone. No matter how many women were around me, I felt alone. And I had to call on this man and get on my knees and call on him like I'd never called on him before.

• 1:19:25Speaker 30

  Remember that I'm saying this? There's some acknowledgement around a frank that comes through. Just remember that I'm saying that. There's some significance, usually who they are, who they're with, or somebody. But there is an acknowledgement there. You have some people who are not family who pop through.

• 1:19:36Bunnie XO?

  What up, homies? It's probably some of the homies that have passed over.

• 1:19:39Speaker 30

  I think so. As I see some symbology around like marriage, union, joy, happy for you. The way I would word this, if there's anybody who you fell has passed, who loved you a hell of a lot, and maybe could have seen a romantic future, but it wasn't the right time by the right place. Just remember that.

• 1:19:56Bunnie XO?

  Probably my ex Tony.

• 1:19:58Speaker 30

  I think that guy wants you to know how proud of you he is. And that he, when he comes across, acknowledges an awareness and existence in your relationship. And that you deserved more than he was able to give at that time.

• 1:20:12Bunnie XO?

  Anybody got a Frank?

• 1:20:13Speaker 30

  If anybody's got a Frank in the building.

• 1:20:14Bunnie XO?

  Who's got a Frank? Frank is one of my ex-boyfriends, but he's still alive. Tony is my ex. I was actually pregnant with his child. I lost his baby, but we were young, young, young, young. But when I ran away from home, he was my boyfriend and like my protector. He actually always loved me and we just, oh my gosh, okay, so I know how it came into play. Oh my God, it just hit me right now. When Tony was dying, my, I was with Frankie and we went to his bedside and I could see Tony. I knew he was already dead. My ex had smoked fake weed and it sent him into cardiac arrest and he died.

• 1:20:49Speaker 30

  Oh my God, that can happen.

• 1:20:50Bunnie XO?

  He didn't die automatically, but he went into a coma. He had a heart attack, went into a coma and I went to go see him. And I remember I held his hand and when I was holding his hand, I could see him standing, looking at me in the corner of the room. And I even looked at my, at my ex Frankie at the time and I was like, he's dead. I was like, he's not coming back. He's in the corner of the room right now, looking at us. I need you to tell the bully story because this is like something out of a fucking movie. Kind of took my breath away because I could visualize it. I'm such a visual person.

• 1:21:16Speaker 30

  So when I was in middle school, I was bullied relentlessly. There was an instance where there was this kid who used to beat me up pretty regularly. He and a number of his friends had watched me go into the school bathroom alone. And I didn't realize at the time, but I was washing my hands and my hands were wet and I heard the door open from behind me. And when I looked, I realized he and about three other people came in and as they rushed in, they blocked the door.

• 1:21:36Bunnie XO?

  They were gonna beat up our little Tyler.

• 1:21:37Speaker 30

  I know this little homo, what, you're really gonna take me out? Like, come on, that's low hanging fruit, baby. The boys, they blocked the door.

• 1:21:45Bunnie XO?

  I'm over here, I'm excited.

• 1:21:46Speaker 30

  And this weird instinctual thing came over me. I don't know if it was a defense mechanism or what, but I made eye contact with him. And as I did, I just said, your aunt knows that you were crying with your dad last night and you need to leave me alone. And I just said it point blank. And as I said this, his friends looked at him, he looked at them. And I always say faster than you can say gay. They were like out of that bathroom. It took off running because his friends didn't know what was going on. But his aunt had passed and what was crazy is the night before he'd been crying in his dad's arms about that loss. And it was actually a very humbling moment. It scared the crap out of him, but it for me really helped both protect me. And years later, he reached out and actually thanked me.

• 1:22:19Bunnie XO?

  Oh, because you taught him probably a lesson there that he was taking his anger and his hurt out on somebody else.

• 1:22:25Speaker 30

  That's very true.

• 1:22:26Bunnie XO?

  That's amazing.

• 1:22:26Speaker 30

  It was really fascinating and kind of an interesting moment of growth for both of us.

• 1:22:29Bunnie XO?

  Do you guys really think Drake has had a BBL?

• 1:22:31Speaker 31

  Yes, definitely.

• 1:22:33Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:22:34Speaker 31

  Them abs came out of nowhere. I didn't see them posted.

• 1:22:35Bunnie XO?

  I've never seen him with his shirt off. I've never looked though either, so.

• 1:22:38Speaker 31

  Yeah, he posted something with his shirt off. I feel like it was like right off the table.

• 1:22:41Bunnie XO?

  So you think he's had abs sketching?

• 1:22:43Speaker 31

  I think so. I would get abs sketching. I'm not judging him at all. I would do it too.

• 1:22:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, I've had it done.

• 1:22:47Speaker 31

  Really?

• 1:22:47Speaker 32

  Really? I know a lot of girls who've had it. My doctor does abs sketching hella good, but I didn't get abs sketching.

• 1:22:53Bunnie XO?

  Love it. I'm, I'll, I'll show you guys my stomach whenever I stand up.

• 1:22:57Speaker 32

  Oh my God, I remember this. I knew this one girl who went and got abs sketching in freaking Mexico and she came back looking like Superman. That she was terrible.

• 1:23:03Bunnie XO?

  That's, that's a bit much.

• 1:23:04Speaker 32

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 1:23:05Speaker 31

  I feel bad when the girls. Like a six pack is too much, a four pack is cool.

• 1:23:07Speaker 32

  Just like a little ch- ch- ch-.

• 1:23:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, just, that's what I did. I just did a little chiseling and that's it, yeah.

• 1:23:12Speaker 32

  Yeah, that's cute, like a little ch-.

• 1:23:13Bunnie XO?

  I did this in 2015 though, before everybody and their mom was doing it. So I didn't even know what the fuck my doctor was doing.

• 1:23:18Speaker 32

  You're like, yeah, just go ahead.

• 1:23:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm just like, just make me look good, please.

• 1:23:25Bunnie XO?

  We use Shopify for our storefront at bunnyxo.com and one thing I've learned from running an online store is that you definitely don't have to be an ecommerce expert to get started. I think a lot of people get intimidated by the website side of starting a business, but Shopify makes that part so much easier. One of my favorite things is having everything in one place when you're running a business. You already have a million things going on, so the last thing you want is for managing your storefront to be one more thing to stress about. Shopify makes it easy to get your store launched, manage it, and actually focus on selling. They also have pre-built themes and an AI site builder that can help you create a professional looking storefront without having to build a website from scratch. And if a friend asks me about starting a store before the holidays, I tell them, don't wait until Black Friday.

• 1:24:10Bunnie XO?

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