ANDREW MUSCARELLA AUDITIONS FOR EVERYTHING (Ft. Andrew Muscarella) | Episode 237

Andrew Muscarella makes his solo debut on the show this week! Drew and Andrew walk about why America really does run on Dunkin, having a lookalike in Heated Rivalry, intimacy scenes, the art of being a spin instructor, Andrew’s time selling Europe trips to teachers as a teenager, and so much more. Andrew IG: https://www.instagram.com/andrewmuscarella/?hl=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:02Drew Afualo?

  You got big Hercules titties, girl. And I love that.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  I worked for these.

• 1:15Drew Afualo?

  It's another episode of the comment section show starring me, your fave. Everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today, we have an iconic all-star, a solo debut, if you will. The one and only Andrew Muscarella.

• 1:29Speaker 03

  What is up? Oh, my God, it feels so nice.

• 1:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, you're a K-pop idol.

• 1:33Speaker 03

  I literally am. It's like my soul.

• 1:34Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, you're literally Jenny.

• 1:36Speaker 03

  It's my breakout moment. Yeah, like Jenny, come on, like Andrew.

• 1:41Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, Andrew, you're just Andrew now.

• 1:44Speaker 03

  Just Andrew.

• 1:44Drew Afualo?

  Look at you.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  And I'm like, now I'm here, I'm like, so do you want the truth?

• 1:51Drew Afualo?

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• 2:33Drew Afualo?

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• 3:07Speaker 03

  Love Joe.

• 3:07Drew Afualo?

  But now, look at you, solo debut. How's it feel?

• 3:09Speaker 03

  It feels great. Like, it's nice to just chat with you.

• 3:12Drew Afualo?

  It is, and we are actual, real-life friends.

• 3:15Speaker 03

  Truly.

• 3:15Drew Afualo?

  So the real key, we're gonna have offline. But now we can have the, we can have the stream-friendly version of the key.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  Exactly. We talked our shit, now we're back on here, and we'll do a version of that.

• 3:26Drew Afualo?

  Yes. You are one of my favorite people to talk shit with.

• 3:29Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 3:29Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  It's an honor.

• 3:32Drew Afualo?

  You need that in this world.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  You do.

• 3:34Drew Afualo?

  In this entertainment industry.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Some people can't keep up.

• 3:36Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  But I feel like we can just bounce back and forth for hours.

• 3:39Drew Afualo?

  You ever like, talk to someone in the industry and you're kind of like, you're getting to know each other a little bit, and then you kind of sample a little like, let's talk shit.

• 3:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:48Drew Afualo?

  And then they're kind of like, oh, I don't really like to talk to people.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  Boo. No, I'm like, no. And when we did it, it was like a cosmic shift.

• 3:59Drew Afualo?

  When we did it, it was transcendent. It was amazing. It was wonderful.

• 4:03Speaker 03

  We don't just talk shit, we talk good. We talk at all.

• 4:07Drew Afualo?

  I was just having this conversation with my man yesterday where I was saying, like, the art of talking shit, right, has been a girls and the gays thing for eons.

• 4:17Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 4:18Drew Afualo?

  But I was saying, like, there is something very healthy and therapeutic about talking shit with someone who gets it.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  I completely agree.

• 4:25Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I feel like it's like you have to expel the venom. Like, that's what I have to do.

• 4:28Speaker 03

  Absolutely. And it's, it's not always talking shit. It's, sometimes it's just talking the truth.

• 4:33Drew Afualo?

  That, right?

• 4:33Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? You just gotta say it, you gotta put it out there and just call what it is.

• 4:36Drew Afualo?

  I can't help it if I'm right.

• 4:40Drew Afualo?

  It's shit to the people who have wronged me.

• 4:42Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 4:44Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm so happy to have you here. You're on a little, you're on a little summer vacay out here in LA.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  I am.

• 4:49Drew Afualo?

  We were just talking about it. How's it been going?

• 4:50Speaker 03

  My LA summer. I am really liking it. I think it's such an adjustment, though. Like, New York is so high-energy and high-strung.

• 4:57Drew Afualo?

  That's very true.

• 4:58Speaker 03

  And then being here, I'm like, forcing myself to be calm.

• 5:02Drew Afualo?

  To chill.

• 5:02Speaker 03

  Which is like, different. So it's different anxieties. I always have anxiety.

• 5:06Drew Afualo?

  And the people out here are a lot different.

• 5:08Speaker 03

  A lot different. I'm like, throwing my hands. I still have the New York in me, though, so I'm like, driving, and I'm like, throwing my hands up at people, like, it's like...

• 5:17Drew Afualo?

  You're hitting them with a, your mother.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  No, literally, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, and I, I've been saying bro a lot when I drive, but like, that's not my vernacular until that comes up. It's like, really crazy. I'm straighter in LA, it's weird.

• 5:30Drew Afualo?

  It's bringing out the mask in you.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  It is, but there's nothing better than an LA summer by a pool. Like, and that's not what I was getting in Bushwick. It's stinky, like, stinky, and the rats are coming right in the back.

• 5:41Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yuck. I was in New York earlier this year. I, I like, went for work stuff, but I was like, in a quick turnaround, but it was in the spring, like, late spring, early summer.

• 5:51Speaker 03

  Right.

• 5:52Drew Afualo?

  And when I was there, I was like, telling my friends, I was like, this is the kind of weather that would trick you into moving to New York. Because there is about a 10-day window where the weather is so wonderful that you're like, I could live here.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  I could do this.

• 6:06Drew Afualo?

  Looking around.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  It's fall and spring gets you every time.

• 6:09Drew Afualo?

  And it's like, oh, my God, I could, I could do this. And then you leave that 10-day window and you start smelling human shit on the street? Yeah, I'm not about it.

• 6:17Speaker 03

  It's disgusting. August in the city, girl.

• 6:20Drew Afualo?

  It's unbearable.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  It's unbearable. And then, like, listen, like, the garbage will stay out sometimes, like, the, and respect to the garbage workers, they're doing a good job, especially in New York. Like, I cannot imagine.

• 6:32Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah, dude, I can't even imagine.

• 6:33Speaker 03

  It just happens to stay there for, for a few days.

• 6:37Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 6:37Speaker 03

  And then I'm getting punished. So, and that's something I actually get.

• 6:41Drew Afualo?

  Unfortunately, I'm being forced to experience it.

• 6:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I'm smelling it every single day. So I'm like, oh, I'm like, welcoming people, I'm like, come in, hold your nose.

• 6:48Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, that, that kind of energy, like, in that 10-day window, I was like, that's where I'm like, this is the city to be. Because I do love New York.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 6:57Drew Afualo?

  But the weather is killing me sometimes. And I was like, it's, and even in the fall, like you said, that's another time when you're like, God, I could, I could live in the big city.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  I know, but I do wonder, like, being here, I'm like, what do you guys complain about? Because when I'm in New York, like, when it is weather and it's winter in January, like, I, like, I can't even think about the next day. You know what I mean? I'm like, actually, like, waking up is really hard, but that, that's my struggle. And then I think about being here and the weather is always nice. Like, what are you guys complaining about?

• 7:27Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, here, it's probably traffic.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  That's what it is.

• 7:30Drew Afualo?

  More than anything, because you gotta drive everywhere.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:33Drew Afualo?

  Like, to go anywhere, it takes, it's crazy when you look at, like, how long it will take to go somewhere in LA and how many miles it actually is. So it'll be like, oh, 45 minutes, and you're going eight miles.

• 7:43Speaker 03

  Right.

• 7:43Drew Afualo?

  You're like, okay, so why is that? Like, why is it taking me an hour?

• 7:46Speaker 03

  And what is it, like, so I hate to bring math into this, so like, eight miles at 60 miles per hour should be eight minutes, right? Am I dumb?

• 7:55Drew Afualo?

  I believe you.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  60 miles per, maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong.

• 7:57Drew Afualo?

  I won't math check you.

• 7:58Speaker 03

  60 miles per hour, one minute in each mile. I was a finance major, but now I'll be here. So, you know, take that with a grain of salt.

• 8:05Drew Afualo?

  And now I'm here being gay on the internet.

• 8:06Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 8:06Drew Afualo?

  So now what?

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Happens that way.

• 8:08Drew Afualo?

  I do, I just remembered, too, there is a video of yours that I think of very often. You guys, if you haven't already, you need to follow Andrew on TikTok. I think you're one of the funniest people on that app, and I mean that sincerely. But you made a video about Dunkin' Donuts that, like, really impacted me, probably like a year or two ago.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  It had to be. Oh, the one that I'm like...

• 8:28Drew Afualo?

  You were saying, like, we don't go, like, knowing it's gonna taste good. Like, it's just like, it's like, true Dunkinistas is like, are in it for the game. Like, you were saying, like, you were calling yourself a Dunkinette?

• 8:42Speaker 03

  I'm a Dunkinette. The thing is, like, you're gonna go to Dunkin' Donuts and you're gonna complain that your coffee never tastes the same.

• 8:47Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:48Speaker 03

  And they're not telling you that the coffee's gonna taste the same, because why are we bashing people for originality? Like, that is my Dunkinista. Like, I go in, like, sure, I go to the one in Burbank, that's amazing, I'm like, trying it there, I go to the one in Williamsburg, it's gonna taste different because I'm in different places. Because they're different people.

• 9:04Drew Afualo?

  And if I go to the same one every single day, it's gonna taste different.

• 9:06Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 9:07Drew Afualo?

  Every time, because it, you were saying it's in the power of the, of the Dunkinista's hands, the barista.

• 9:12Speaker 03

  And isn't, there's nothing better than when you take your first sip and you're like,

• 9:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, they did it today.

• 9:20Drew Afualo?

  And I, Jason has said this to me too about Dunkin', because she doesn't play about Dunkin either. And I've, and I've been real like, oh, okay. Like when she was telling me, she's like, no, it's the best. And it was, she even told me, she was like, no, sometimes it's awful. But the times that it's good, it's like the best coffee you've ever had. It's almost like that's what keeps you coming back.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. And again, people want to talk about their beans. They don't care about the, like, they're not saying they got the best beans. They're not going, they're not saying they're the best coffee ever. It literally is just like, America runs on Dunkin', they have the best syrups. If you're trying to get sugary shit, you're gonna get it on Dunkin' Donuts. Okay, if you want the straight up espresso, don't go to Dunkin' Donuts. All right, but if you want the 700 calorie Koolada, because you deserve it, go to Dunkin' Donuts.

• 10:06Drew Afualo?

  I saw a girl make a video about, I think they have a new drink. I forget which one it, I forget the flavor. But she was like, I tried it, I looked it up. She said there's like 90 grams of sugar in that shit. I said, yo, what the fuck?

• 10:20Speaker 03

  Another thing about Dunkin'.

• 10:21Drew Afualo?

  You don't ever need to look it up.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  A lot of Dunkin' PR kick right now. Another thing about, they have never reached out. Another thing about Dunkin' is that they are constantly innovating. There's another line of drinks every week.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  They got to collab with a different person every week.

• 10:39Drew Afualo?

  Every time, every time I think about Dunkin' at, like every time I see Dunkin', I'm a true Dunkin' at.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  I should sell my own merch.

• 10:48Speaker 03

  Little booty shorts, Dunkin' at.

• 10:51Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I'm gonna go back to, we'll circle back to you getting into entertainment at all.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  Right.

• 10:56Drew Afualo?

  I would love, I, I know this to be true already, because I've seen quite a few baby pictures and I've spent a lot of time with you. But I'm, I'm curious, did you always know you were gonna, you were a star? Have you had that feeling since you were a kid?

• 11:06Speaker 03

  I do believe so. I think I needed to like, it took time for me to accept that, but I always wanted to make people laugh. And I always was that kid that like, had people surrounding me and I was like tapping my toes. You know? And they all were like, oh, he's different.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  So I always loved making people laugh. I always loved singing or performing in any capacity. And then I think I like, lost sight of that. What was so beautiful is I had a best friend growing up who also wanted the same thing. So we were like, able to play with each other.

• 11:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:39Speaker 03

  Um, and then you get hit with reality and you're like, okay, like, I guess I should be a finance major.

• 11:46Drew Afualo?

  I guess I need a real job.

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Oh, like, well, I was gonna be a politician, which, mm, no.

• 11:50Drew Afualo?

  That would have been crazy.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  That would have been, that would have been crazy. Who said it's off the table though? Because at this point, you could do anything.

• 11:57Drew Afualo?

  You got the mustache, so.

• 11:58Speaker 03

  There you go. I got the wave.

• 12:02Drew Afualo?

  You would have been so great though. Just like, I think you would have been a wonderful politician, like, obviously policy wise.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 12:07Drew Afualo?

  But you would have been a dream, like to interview, to do pressers.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  I would have loved, I mean, the thing is, I think that politics, regardless, it's like, it is about how you can make people feel.

• 12:21Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:21Speaker 03

  What it should be.

• 12:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  And like, how you can command a room and like, being in somebody's presence. And I feel like with the industry that we're into, like when you're in certain rooms, it does feel very political in a way.

• 12:32Drew Afualo?

  No, it's super.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  It's like, but then I was like, I got a taste and that's not for me. I'll do this.

• 12:37Drew Afualo?

  I'll do this.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  I'll sit like, I could talk about.

• 12:39Drew Afualo?

  I'll be a Dunkin' at.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  I'd much rather be a Dunkin' at, all right? Than vote for president of the United States.

• 12:45Drew Afualo?

  No, I agree. I, I, and I know also too, that you've been venturing into stand up.

• 12:49Speaker 03

  I have.

• 12:50Drew Afualo?

  How has that been?

• 12:51Speaker 03

  I've been doing stand up, I've been doing improv, I'm doing improv too.

• 12:54Drew Afualo?

  Girl, let's talk about improv. I'd love to keep out improv.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  Please.

• 12:57Drew Afualo?

  How are you feeling about it?

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Okay, so how am I feeling about it? I love to improv with people I feel comfortable with. When I'm at class, um, sometimes I'm paired with the 45 year old man that, I just walk up and I'm like, hey babe.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  I'm immediately making it my boyfriend.

• 13:20Drew Afualo?

  You're obsessed with me.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop, you always want to kiss me, like it's weird.

• 13:25Drew Afualo?

  I told you already, I don't want to do that.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  Right, um, but I do love improv. It, I think it helps so much with having conversations with people and being able to pivot and like.

• 13:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Real life things. So I do, I think I'm gonna be in an improv troupe, I can't tell you that. But with conversations and like even skits online, things like that, it's helping.

• 13:44Drew Afualo?

  No, totally, I'm glad you're doing it.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  The class itself, like, I do have anxiety before I go. It's three hours and I'm like.

• 13:51Drew Afualo?

  That's literally, didn't you and my sister talk about improv?

• 13:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:54Drew Afualo?

  Because she was literally taking that improv class.

• 13:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:57Drew Afualo?

  She told me, she goes, I don't know, I can't do it anymore, dude. Like she, she went to a couple and she's like, I don't know if I can keep doing this. And she said, I feel like I would have a lot more fun with people I knew.

• 14:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 14:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, which is like the, kind of the shit part is like, you can't really determine who's in the class, obviously.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  In LA, like I'm going to a class at 3pm on a Monday. I'm like, who the hell is here? But then I'm like, why have I here? So everybody is trying to do the same.

• 14:19Drew Afualo?

  Don't you guys have jobs and you're there too?

• 14:22Speaker 03

  So I'm like, okay, I guess same. Let's do it. But they all have these like different voices. It's like, it is fun.

• 14:29Drew Afualo?

  What was your adjective that you used?

• 14:31Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 14:31Drew Afualo?

  The first day?

• 14:32Speaker 03

  What did I?

• 14:33Drew Afualo?

  Cause my stupid sister, I'll tell you what hers was. Uh, she goes, she was, huh? Oh, you showed it to him already? Yeah, I'll tell, I'll tell the audience then, what, what Jason used. You know, you're supposed to use an adjective, like, so like my name is Drew and I would be like, dancing Drew or something. It's supposed to be like, an adjective or a verb or something like that. No, my dumbass sister goes, um, dragon, Jason. I was like, Jason, I was like, Jason, it's supposed to be a adjective or like a verb.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Right.

• 15:04Drew Afualo?

  And then she goes, well, I didn't know that. And I was like, what about everybody else that went?

• 15:08Speaker 03

  Awesome.

• 15:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's great.

• 15:10Speaker 03

  And I was like, awesome, Andrew. And everyone's like, awesome, Andrew. I'm like, I can't.

• 15:17Drew Afualo?

  Cause you have to, and then she said, and I did this.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  I think it's, it's really good.

• 15:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, don't take the class.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  For, yeah, exactly. It's really good if you're like allowing yourself, what I love about improv, it's allowing you to be the kid that you once were.

• 15:32Drew Afualo?

  Totally, yeah.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Sometimes so hard for us to allow ourselves to like, be silly and weird, but like, sometimes I do strip the, like the.

• 15:40Drew Afualo?

  It's very true.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  Back and I'm like, ooh, like, we're all going like this. They're like, I am a 30 year old man and like, that daddy. Forty five and like, he's like crawling on the floor, but it's fun.

• 15:52Drew Afualo?

  When I was in high school, I took acting and I remember our end, like the first semester, like final was like a monologue. So that one was kind of easy, because everyone just picks their own thing. And then for the second semester final, it was a group scene, like it had to be a scene. And it had to be, it could be from a movie or a play, but like if it was in a movie, you had to like transcribe it, whatever the fuck. I tried to do She's the Man, because that movie had just come out at the time. And I told this dumbass kid, this, yet again, another straight man.

• 16:23Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 16:23Drew Afualo?

  Pissing me the fuck off. I told him to turn it in, because I had something to do and he didn't turn it in and I hate him for it to this day. So I got given a play, but the crazy thing is, is like, I got paired with him. He was like a basketball player, a cheerleader. And then this, I want to say 65 year old woman.

• 16:39Speaker 03

  Right.

• 16:39Drew Afualo?

  Who was the helper of another student who needed like an aide.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Right.

• 16:44Drew Afualo?

  The thing is, like, she's in the group because the student's in the group.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 16:47Drew Afualo?

  But for some reason, this older woman was a heavy hand in our scene. She was like, she really was like, I'm gonna be this character, I'm gonna, like, she was like steering it and I was like.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  All right, babe, you wanted a little.

• 16:59Drew Afualo?

  She's the helper who stepped up.

• 17:02Drew Afualo?

  And she was kind of driving it and that's what makes me think of improv, because I'm like, I, I remember being fucking 14, 15 years old. And I was like, why is this woman in our group?

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, she was slaying it down. She probably was.

• 17:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, there was this, um, do you know tableaus? When they do tableaus, so a tableau is like a frozen, like it's like a frozen frame of something. And in my drama class, I did this in college too. They were like, oh, we're gonna do a tableau. So like, everyone had to like freeze and like pause. And like, my teacher was like, pick a pose. Same 65 year old woman. She takes off her slippers, right? Lays in the front of all the students, there's probably like 30 kids, lays in the front on her side.

• 17:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 17:42Drew Afualo?

  And then opens up her legs and is like, her foot's to the, to the ceiling like this, toes pointed.

• 17:48Speaker 03

  Oh, that's my girl. Oh, that's my girl. I would do the same exact same. I was always the person that was in the front of the picture with my leg pointing in the air like I was Maddie Ziegler. Dance moms like could not keep up with me. It's so good.

• 18:04Drew Afualo?

  That's why I brought it up, because I feel like that's a very you trait, so maybe in another life.

• 18:08Speaker 03

  In another life.

• 18:09Drew Afualo?

  Maybe that was you.

• 18:10Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 18:11Drew Afualo?

  You were still finding a way to be the center of attention.

• 18:14Speaker 03

  65 year old movie in class. I will be that 65 year old. Like, I'd be in some community theater production.

• 18:22Drew Afualo?

  Right, in some ways I am currently.

• 18:24Speaker 03

  Always.

• 18:24Drew Afualo?

  Uh, okay, so stand up, how's stand up going?

• 18:26Speaker 03

  Stand up, I haven't flexed that muscle in a little bit. I was doing it when, when it was in New York and before I came to LA.

• 18:32Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 18:32Speaker 03

  I opened for Cat Cohen for a show, which was huge.

• 18:34Drew Afualo?

  We love Cat.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  I love Cat, I think she's one of the funniest people ever. And like, what's so beautiful about being in comedy now is like, people who believe in you and believe that you're funny will like, give you a stage, which is.

• 18:46Drew Afualo?

  And it's the biggest cosign.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Exactly, it's a huge cosign. Writing is a completely different muscle. I feel like podcasting, I love to just be funny and I never know what's gonna come out of my mouth. And like, that's the beauty of it, right?

• 18:59Drew Afualo?

  And like, we're all in for a treat.

• 19:00Speaker 03

  Exactly. I will say the last time I did stand up, um, it was like talking to a wall. And I've never felt so unfunny. I literally was like, are you guys serious?

• 19:13Drew Afualo?

  That's part of the game, honestly.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  No, it was. So there was one comedian that went on before me, who was a completely different vibe, very rage baiting. Very like, saying crazy things.

• 19:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  People were cracking up. And then I get on there and I'm like.

• 19:29Drew Afualo?

  That's the most ominous feeling in the world.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Exact, because I'm like trying to be sweet. I'm trying to be like sweet and funny and she's like.

• 19:36Drew Afualo?

  Like I said, I'm a Dunkin' at, so obviously I'm trying to be sweet.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Exactly, I was, I probably made a joke about Dunkin', everyone's like this.

• 19:42Drew Afualo?

  It's so painful.

• 19:44Speaker 03

  It was really painful.

• 19:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  But you got it. When you get knocked down, you gotta get right back up.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  And that's, that is how, and I took some time to be down, but now it's time to get right back up.

• 19:54Drew Afualo?

  Well, you know, and that's also not like any indicator of whether or not you're funny. It is the rooms. Like in a lot of ways, it's the rooms. I was supposed to do, when I thought for half a second, I was like, maybe I'll try stand up. When I was gonna do a show for a really big comedian and she asked me like really early on in the year. And then that's when I called Caleb and I was like, hey, I'd love some tips because like, and he was like, he listened to me like, he was like validating me. And then after I said everything, he goes, well, if we're gonna do fucking five for her, you have to do five for me first. I asked you first. And I started laughing. I was like, but I told you I'm not doing it. I'm trying to learn. And he was like, okay, come learn with me. Do mine first. And so I was like, okay, but I can't, ended up canceling with the bigger comedian, which I, like that huge comedian, which I was glad I did at the time.

• 20:38Drew Afualo?

  I, I just couldn't make it work scheduling wise, but I was honestly really glad because the rooms that like the cards she put me on or like the, the lineup she put me on. There were comics I, I weren't, wasn't familiar with, but when I looked up one of them, it was the same kind of vibe where it was like, this is like a rage baity thing. If this is the room, I'm gonna flop, girl. They're not gonna like me. Like they're, they're almost like on purpose, gonna like not laugh on purpose.

• 21:02Speaker 03

  I know. I think that's what it is too. It's like, people are saying like, go, and when you're doing stand up, go to open mics, which has been really helpful. Because you get in front of so many different groups of people.

• 21:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:13Speaker 03

  But if you were to put out a show for your stand up, you know, your girls are showing up for you.

• 21:16Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 21:16Speaker 03

  And they're gonna laugh regardless. And that's what I felt too, when we do live shows for the podcast, like they are showing up for me. So even if I'm scared before I step on stage, I'm like, they don't wanna see me fail. So stand up, like I definitely wanna keep leaning into it. But then I'm like, I, all I want is a mic and a stage. That like, that is actually, and I don't want you to classify me as anything. It's like almost.

• 21:36Drew Afualo?

  You're so real.

• 21:37Speaker 03

  Andrew Muscarella auditions for everything. Like I actually just wanna get on the stage and like, I wanna do stand up. I wanna sing like it's American Idol. I'm gonna do a floor routine like I'm Maddie Ziegler. I'm gonna do some sort of crazy acting bit. Like I wanna audition.

• 21:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh baby, I'm a jack of all trades.

• 21:51Speaker 03

  That's it. That's a variety show. You came to my circus.

• 21:53Drew Afualo?

  And if you think about it, that is kinda like Kat. That is what Kat does.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  And that's why her audience was, I've never felt funnier. I was like, they, everyone there was so supportive and like, cause she is so amazing.

• 22:07Drew Afualo?

  She cracks me the fuck up. When someone's being funny, I'm gonna laugh.

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Always.

• 22:11Drew Afualo?

  And I think that was like, I think sometimes you guys think if, you have to be super nonchalant when you're being funny, otherwise you're not taken seriously as a comic.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 22:19Drew Afualo?

  I disagree.

• 22:20Speaker 03

  I completely disagree.

• 22:21Drew Afualo?

  I love to entertain and I love to be entertained. So I love when people are cracking jokes and I'm laughing my ass. That's why I love comedy. I love get, going to shows, but you're so real though about like wanting just the stage and the mic.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 22:34Drew Afualo?

  Just, that's it. And room to run.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Even if it was five people, sure. But I'm not, I'm not writing this, um, cause it is the structure. I don't do well with structure. Let me, with the ADHD in me.

• 22:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's where you're your funniest, cause that's why I think improv is a wonderful thing for you. Because you are so quick on your feet, which is comedy essentially. But I feel the same way. I'm like, I, it's just not my favorite. Like I'm good and I like to make people laugh. I love to hear the laughs live, but that's also why I like to perform live. Cause I feel like when I do the pod with Dace on the road, like that's, that's always fun.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  There's nothing better.

• 23:08Drew Afualo?

  And like you said, like your fans come and they're, you're having fun and having a blast. It's like, it's, I think it scratches that itch for me.

• 23:16Speaker 03

  It does. Laughing with the girls. Like there really is nothing better.

• 23:19Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny is like sometimes, and this is like kind of on par with the same thing. I'll like, uh, get ready. And if I'm like doing my makeup and I'm like, God, I wanna do this.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:28Drew Afualo?

  I'll sometimes pretend I'm giving like the Vanity Fair, my makeup tutorial. I'm like, and then I'll, I'll. And I'll literally crack jokes to myself. I'll laugh and I'll go, man, if I ever do that, ugh, I'm gonna kill.

• 23:41Speaker 03

  I'm gonna kill it. I'm gonna kill it. Me accepting my Oscar speech. Like, it's like, I will do any, but that's manifesting.

• 23:48Drew Afualo?

  And I'd listen.

• 23:49Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 23:50Drew Afualo?

  Uh, it's all part of it.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 23:51Drew Afualo?

  I know you're on your audition grind.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:53Drew Afualo?

  How's that going? Me too. I'm, I'm, I'm throwing my pussy in the wind, seeing who catches the scent.

• 23:58Speaker 03

  A hundred, I'm doing the same thing. Just on the backside, you know?

• 24:02Drew Afualo?

  You're a bussy in the wind.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  My bussy's in the wind, man. I'm catching some, but no. I, yeah, it's been, you know, we're, we're out here. We're trying to grind. And I, I do believe the more you do it, the more things will come.

• 24:15Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  I do, like, it's also like, it's so interesting once you like meet people and meet other people that you believe to be funny. Because I wanna be writing, my friends are writing, like, I know people who want shows to be developed. And there's nothing better than working with people that you believe are funny. Because when that show happens.

• 24:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  The, the cosmic energy on screen, people are gonna be like, this is the best show to ever exist.

• 24:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  So like, yeah, you wanna cast me as waiter number two? Like, I'll do that. Like, could just, just get my face on the screen? But the day that I can be in a show with my friends is going to be everything.

• 24:51Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  And I look at like a Fire Island, the movie, right? Like those, those guys being friends and then creating something that I still watch. And I'm like, that actually, as cliche as it sounds, was a huge catalyst for me being comfortable with going to Fire Island.

• 25:07Drew Afualo?

  No way. That's so sweet.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  For so long, I thought it was like, I was only gonna be surrounded by people that looked exactly the same or the same exact type of body or whatever.

• 25:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Seeing a group that resembled my group of friends was like, oh, I can do this. And then I went and I had the best time of my life.

• 25:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God, period.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  My pussy was in the wind.

• 25:27Drew Afualo?

  And yeah, let me tell you something. My pussy was in that wind.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  It was in that wind. Um, but yeah, we're, we're gonna keep, listen, any casting directors listening.

• 25:35Drew Afualo?

  Yes, if you're listening. Yes, both of us.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  Both of us.

• 25:37Drew Afualo?

  We should do like rom com lead, you and I.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  Oh, easy.

• 25:42Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God. You know what's so.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  I can also, I think I can play straight.

• 25:46Drew Afualo?

  I think you could too.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  What's up?

• 25:47Drew Afualo?

  You look straight.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 25:49Drew Afualo?

  If you don't, if you don't open your mouth or walk.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  Or walk or like.

• 25:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. If you sit completely fucking still and don't talk, I'd get it. And it's the rockin bod. Honestly, that's what it is. It's the big, it's, you got big Hercules titties, girl. And I love that.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  I worked for these.

• 26:10Drew Afualo?

  And they need that.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  Right.

• 26:11Drew Afualo?

  They need more.

• 26:15Drew Afualo?

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• 26:57Drew Afualo?

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• 27:42Drew Afualo?

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• 28:24Drew Afualo?

  Ever heard of it? Why does being around your family make you regress into your worst self? Ugh, hate when that happens. And how do you tell your roommates that you have other friends? FX's Adults, all episodes now streaming on Hulu. How has your journeys at Barry's been?

• 28:41Speaker 03

  It's been, it's honestly been great. Like I am somebody who I don't like running. And unless someone was telling me to get on the treadmill and pick it up to a level ten, I'm not doing it.

• 28:50Drew Afualo?

  That's so true.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  So I, I wake up, I get in that class and the journey happens in fifty minutes and I leave and I don't even know what happened. You know what I mean? Like I like blackout in that room. Um, there are, again, I'm somebody who I don't personally understand when people take their shirts off in a workout class. Cause I'm like, who the hell do you think?

• 29:13Speaker 03

  Okay, the point of a shirt is to wick sweat, right? That's what you think.

• 29:17Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Now, when your shirt is off and you're in the class with me, where's your sweat going?

• 29:22Drew Afualo?

  On me.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  On my bench? Oh, are you taking the wipe? No. Now I'm sliding on your sweat, but you wanna look good in the mirror. That's amazing. That's cool.

• 29:31Drew Afualo?

  For you and you alone. No one else is here.

• 29:33Speaker 03

  No, I'm just pissed that I'm sloshing around on your bench.

• 29:37Drew Afualo?

  Slipping and sliding.

• 29:38Speaker 03

  I I do love it. I mean, again, fitness has been something that like I turned to during covid and has.

• 29:44Drew Afualo?

  Yes, because I do want to say Andrew is fit as hell, but also has an extensive background in fitness.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  Cause I studied.

• 29:49Drew Afualo?

  See, look at you, trainer at Equinox.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 29:52Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 29:53Speaker 03

  Period. Because I, because that was another thing for me that like I grew up really big and I never felt comfortable in spaces. I never felt like especially gym spaces, never felt like I belonged, always felt like people were looking at me all the time. Even though like that is genuinely not the case. I think that people do get in the gym and they think that they're being perceived. But like, you gotta just let go of that.

• 30:12Drew Afualo?

  But everybody's thinking that.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  Right. And then I was like losing weight in a pretty unhealthy way. Cause I was like, I just want to be perceived as thin. And I was like, let me study this because I got time. It was covid. Let me figure out how to actually like fuel my body and like look the way I want to look and help people feel comfortable when they walk through the door and be like, girl, I have a bigger body and fitness. I want you to feel comfortable in this space of I'm here. And that was like the past seven years of my life. So I'm like.

• 30:41Drew Afualo?

  I really genuinely think that's so beautiful and amazing. I think the fitness world especially needs people like you. Like my, you know, my man's a trainer too. So like my man is also a kind of trainer, like him studying like physical fitness in that way and nutrition and all that. Really, I say this all the time and I'm like, I am not being hyperbolic. It has really shifted my perspective on fitness and in a wonderful way. It's like taking all of it off anti-fat and put it more on to, this is going to help me live longer.

• 31:11Speaker 03

  Right.

• 31:11Drew Afualo?

  Be able to walk longer, be able to like hold myself up, get up from a chair longer.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:15Drew Afualo?

  Like it's really shifted my perspective on fitness and how it relates to the body.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:19Drew Afualo?

  So I, I do, I love that content that you post too about fitness because I think it's important that we have, we take up more space in the fitness space.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 31:27Drew Afualo?

  And it's not solely predicated on how thin you are, how like uh muscly you are, whatever it is. It's solely based off of, I feel good, I feel strong, I feel capable.

• 31:40Speaker 03

  And when you can realize like what I learned for so long, especially like growing up bigger and people telling me that I needed to lose weight. I think that was my biggest reason for not wanting to lose weight.

• 31:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's a good point.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  You're telling me that I need to lose weight. I'm not doing it for you. Like fuck off. And like you can just kind of like continue the spiral of whatever that was for you. But then when I was able to be like, actually, I deserve to feel good and this clears my mind and I'm away from my phone for an hour. And I'm listening to good music and I just feel like that bitch when I look at myself in the mirror and I'm doing my deadlifts and then I look at my ass and I'm like, exactly. Exactly.

• 32:17Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. I know. I, I love that you have a fitness background. I feel like that's, I, I feel like it's important in, in so many different ways, but I also think like you are so warm and magnetic. So it like, it creates this like very warm space for you, you to be able to like convince people. Cause you're right. It is like the fear more than anything. It's just like the fear surrounding it. And it's like, actually, no one's really ever thinking about you nearly that much.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  No.

• 32:42Drew Afualo?

  But it's hard to get past that.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:44Drew Afualo?

  Especially if you grow up bigger.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:46Drew Afualo?

  And especially if you grow up in an environment where you never really did anything fitness related. Even for me, like I, I've talked about this a lot about, especially because I've defended so many people like from fatphobia. And I've talked a lot about unpacking fatphobia and like wanting to perceive or pursue uh body neutrality.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  Right.

• 33:03Drew Afualo?

  And so I've talked a lot about how like for me, growing up, I don't know how it was for you, but for me, I was like, I grew up around fat people.

• 33:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:10Drew Afualo?

  My whole life. So like my idea of fatness is very different. And so my idea and perspective of fatness has never like through my eyes, fatness has never stopped anyone

• 33:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:19Drew Afualo?

  from getting married, from falling in love, from having children, from being successful at work. Like fatness has never deterred anyone that I've known personally. And also I'm like, sometimes I have to think, I'm like, we need to redefine what fat means because some of you guys, like when Meg Saltzer was on here and she was like, you know, they're saying that about Addison Rae. And I was like, I'm gonna. I, that she's a fatty.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  That's insane. Wait, did you know though that she leaned into it because she had, and I bought it. She had a plus size Barbie collection of dolls of her like back in the day.

• 33:53Drew Afualo?

  Addison Rae. They gave her a plus size Barbie. Hey, where's mine?

• 33:59Speaker 03

  I'll be right in the box right.

• 34:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you, you and I both need one. What the fuck is that?

• 34:02Speaker 03

  I'm the cat and you're the Barbie. Like, come on.

• 34:04Drew Afualo?

  I've been the plus size baddie on the fucking TikTok for fucking ever.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  There you go. But yeah, I don't know. I, we have a, we have a skewed perception of like all of this.

• 34:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 34:15Speaker 03

  I don't know. It's, it's such a.

• 34:16Drew Afualo?

  I thought your fitness, yeah, I think your fitness videos were so fun too. Cause, cause I'm sure you, you know this too, cause you're a trainer. You have been a trainer for a long time, but like it, it's movement is movement.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:26Drew Afualo?

  I've told people all the time, if it gets you up and it gets you sweating and you love it and you, you have fun doing it, that's important.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:33Drew Afualo?

  It doesn't, there is no one, one right way, but once you get past the fear and you're having fun, then you can start to grow it.

• 34:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:39Drew Afualo?

  And try other things.

• 34:40Speaker 03

  And you find your comfortable space. Like if it's like going with a friend or I think the easiest way is going to a fitness class because again, nobody is watching you, except the coach.

• 34:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  At least that's what it should be.

• 34:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  And if they're watching you, it's because like, maybe they want to talk to you after. That's been my dream for ever. But.

• 35:00Drew Afualo?

  I love that you, you and I have the exact same mentality in that. I'm like, if I gaslight myself, no one can touch me.

• 35:05Speaker 03

  No, exactly.

• 35:06Drew Afualo?

  I can tell myself anything.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  I walk in the gym and I'm like, I am the sexiest person in this space. And actually, everyone is so lucky to be in my aura.

• 35:15Drew Afualo?

  Everyone's gonna want to hit on me and then what?

• 35:16Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 35:17Drew Afualo?

  What am I gonna do? I'm gonna have to break the news?

• 35:19Speaker 03

  No. But then I'm like, oh, because they were so scared.

• 35:24Drew Afualo?

  They were so intimidated by me. So I just couldn't.

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Couldn't.

• 35:28Drew Afualo?

  Okay, we're gonna pivot back uh to acting. What's, this is the place to manifest.

• 35:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:33Drew Afualo?

  Let me tell you something.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 35:34Drew Afualo?

  This is the place to manifest. That is the chair to manifest in. So what would be a dream role for you to have? TV show, movie, or both?

• 35:41Speaker 03

  Okay, so dream role. I think I'm obviously best suited for a comedy.

• 35:47Drew Afualo?

  Yes, tea.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  I would assume. Obviously, Hacks is no longer on air, but I think I could have been, I would have loved to be in Hacks.

• 35:54Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  I also, and I know this is crazy because like I want to show off this face and this body, but I really want to get into voice acting. And I would love like a, I know Big Mouth doesn't exist either, but like something in the Nick Kroll universe where it's like.

• 36:09Drew Afualo?

  So tea.

• 36:10Speaker 03

  I can do like a, a little Lola, like a wee wee. You know, like I can, I can make my voice anything.

• 36:16Drew Afualo?

  Bob's Burgers?

• 36:16Speaker 03

  Bob's Burgers.

• 36:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that would be so tea.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  I think that's something that I really am fueled by.

• 36:21Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, I love that. I love that you love voice acting.

• 36:24Speaker 03

  I love voice acting. And I, I honestly don't even know how to get started in that because I think my, my resume is podcasting. So, so people listening to me.

• 36:34Drew Afualo?

  It's all about who you know and you know me.

• 36:35Speaker 03

  And I know you.

• 36:36Drew Afualo?

  So I'll help you.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  And do you know an animator? Because maybe you can get into another voice acting. Um, but yeah, no, I think that like some sort of, I, I grew up on the Broad Cities. I grew up on like Penn, like Penn fifteen is another huge one, like.

• 36:49Drew Afualo?

  We had Anna Conklin on, love her.

• 36:51Speaker 03

  Love her.

• 36:52Drew Afualo?

  She's amazing.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Two, like there are so many shows where I watch it and I'm like, I want to be in that.

• 36:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I could kill.

• 37:00Speaker 03

  I could kill. And with the improv of it all too, like I, I obviously can study the lines. I can, I can memorize. But like, give me the opportunity.

• 37:11Drew Afualo?

  Bringing it to life.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  To just make it my own.

• 37:14Drew Afualo?

  Girl, and what about heated rivalry?

• 37:16Speaker 03

  Oh, now I, see, I can get into heated rivalry.

• 37:18Drew Afualo?

  Listen to me. I think you have the bod for it.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  Because you know what?

• 37:23Drew Afualo?

  Smoothie guy? That could have been you, bitch.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  I am freaking out because I literally looked at him and I was like, hold on, that could be me.

• 37:31Drew Afualo?

  Reheated my nachos.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  People have told me I look like him before, which I'm like, okay, that's, that's amazing. Thank you. But I, I would love to be in heated rivalry. And I think that like, again, let's show a little bit. I'm a beefier man. Let's get the beefy bodies on this thing.

• 37:47Drew Afualo?

  Listen to me. I need your Hercules titties on a show oiled up.

• 37:52Speaker 03

  Oiled up.

• 37:52Drew Afualo?

  Oiled up bitch.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  Beyond belief.

• 37:54Drew Afualo?

  I need you to start getting these men to do chest more because I'm sick of it. I can't stand seeing a concave chest. I'm so over it. I want you to have tits.

• 38:02Speaker 03

  Like, and honestly, I don't want to see your six pack.

• 38:04Drew Afualo?

  I don't. I want to see your boobs.

• 38:06Speaker 03

  I want to see your boobs. I want to see your like kind of toned belly, but like you don't really give a fuck and you have big arms.

• 38:11Drew Afualo?

  You're so me because I think the same, I say I could give a fuck less about the belly. I want titties.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:17Drew Afualo?

  And I want big arms.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  It's gonna be like.

• 38:18Drew Afualo?

  And shoulders.

• 38:19Speaker 03

  It has to be like heated rivalry, but like for like javelin throwers. You know what I mean? Like it has to be like something that's like, I'm doing something like with your, with your body.

• 38:29Drew Afualo?

  Or you're a wrestler. You could be a wrestler.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  Me in a singlet.

• 38:33Drew Afualo?

  Listen, Boner City.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  No, people would.

• 38:36Drew Afualo?

  Population everyone.

• 38:37Speaker 03

  People would be freaking out. Wait, okay, let's, I'm gonna write that show.

• 38:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we, we have, okay, we have to manifest you getting on heated rivalry.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  I.

• 38:46Drew Afualo?

  Because I, I'm, I'm deadass Andrew. When I saw the smoothie guy, I was like, and that could have been Andrew.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 38:52Drew Afualo?

  When I first saw it, I was like, okay, so you do let these kinds of gays on here.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  Right. And I'm like.

• 38:59Speaker 03

  Strawberry banana smoothie today? Like, come on.

• 39:03Drew Afualo?

  Andrew, I'm literally imagining like a bigger, taller gay guy picking you up like that.

• 39:10Drew Afualo?

  I'm imagining.

• 39:14Drew Afualo?

  I'm getting like giddy thinking about it for you.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  No, like I would.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  I'll do it.

• 39:21Drew Afualo?

  And I would, and I would.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  And it's crazy because I'm really, I'm available for it.

• 39:25Drew Afualo?

  Listen.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:27Drew Afualo?

  This is where we're manifesting it for you because I, I saw, and I, you were the first person I thought of. I was like, I cannot believe. Cause I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of shorter gay guys with a rockin bod. Andrew Muscarella.

• 39:39Speaker 03

  Here I am.

• 39:40Drew Afualo?

  Obviously.

• 39:40Speaker 03

  I appreciate that. Genuinely so much. And even if I don't get into heated rivalry too, like I'm gonna spiritually feel like I'm in it.

• 39:49Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Or three, four, five. I feel like that's gonna.

• 39:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, or they're just reheating your nachos. Like what if they saw you and they were like, okay, we need you to model after this guy.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  I think they might've done that.

• 39:58Drew Afualo?

  They probably did.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  The way that those men cattle, like catapulted into fame.

• 40:03Drew Afualo?

  Listen.

• 40:04Speaker 03

  Beyond, like that's my big break. Just put me on the screen. I'm good.

• 40:09Drew Afualo?

  And let me take, and let me take my tits out.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  Let me take my tits out. I will show ass. And you know what? I'll do full frontal. You know what? I don't care. I have, I have released a lot of shame in my life.

• 40:21Drew Afualo?

  Listen.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  And I'll do whatever it takes.

• 40:24Drew Afualo?

  I am in it to win it.

• 40:25Speaker 03

  I am really in it to win it.

• 40:26Drew Afualo?

  I'm so excited for you. What about, what about like a movie? If you could pick a movie, like we obviously said comedy.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  Okay. I, so I think for a movie for me, I, I would wanna be, I only, not that I only ever see myself with like a duo, but I kinda wanna be in like the heat, like Melissa McCarthy type.

• 40:45Drew Afualo?

  You, Andrew, you have no idea how much that movie means to me. You have no idea. I talk about that movie all the time on here. That movie and Hobbs and Shaw. For some reason, those are the two movies I talk about constantly.

• 40:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:55Drew Afualo?

  That is one of my favorite movies ever. It's so funny.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  So good. There's like a little bit of like action, but then it's also like funny.

• 41:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like slapstick. Yeah, comedy.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  They're like throwing themselves over the car, you know? I've always, cause that was another thing, like growing up, I always like watched the, like the Seth Rogen's. Like when I was in high school, I really was trying to be like Seth Rogen. And I don't know why, like I was like looking like him. But like, that was like the type of humor that I was watching and it was always those duos.

• 41:25Drew Afualo?

  Same. And that makes sense because.

• 41:27Speaker 03

  Twenty One Jump Street.

• 41:28Drew Afualo?

  That makes sense because we're the same age, like, cause I'm thirty two. So same. I was just saying the other day, I feel like we need to make more comedies like that again. Like Couples Retreat. You remember that movie? I literally was thinking about Couples Retreat the other day and I was like, that is such a funny movie. I wish we would bring those back.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 41:43Drew Afualo?

  Like those kinds of comedies.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  They've been gone. And listen, maybe we just gotta write it.

• 41:47Drew Afualo?

  You and I have to resurrect it.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  With the Heat starring us.

• 41:51Drew Afualo?

  It's just the Heat, but it's just the two of us. It's a shot for shot remake, but it's just the two of us.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  Like the Heat two.

• 41:59Drew Afualo?

  The Heat part two?

• 42:00Speaker 03

  Which is heated rivalry.

• 42:01Drew Afualo?

  Even like all of Melissa McCarthy's like discography is so funny to me.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  So funny.

• 42:05Drew Afualo?

  Like no one gave a fuck about Tammy, but I loved that movie.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  I thought it was really good.

• 42:10Drew Afualo?

  Did you like it? I loved it.

• 42:12Speaker 03

  Liked it. I do believe that anything that she's in, like I, I do laugh.

• 42:17Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 42:17Speaker 03

  It's just the way that she delivers lines and just, she's so charismatic.

• 42:22Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  That, yeah, I really have always loved her humor. So I think that I am very heavily influenced by her.

• 42:27Drew Afualo?

  Likewise. I agree.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Right?

• 42:29Drew Afualo?

  We're gonna resurrect it, you and I.

• 42:30Speaker 03

  Let's resurrect it.

• 42:31Drew Afualo?

  We're gonna bring it back. I'm so glad we're talking about this so we can manifest.

• 42:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:35Drew Afualo?

  I put two dolls on Broadway from that chair. So I will get you to heated rivalry. So help me God.

• 42:40Speaker 03

  So help us all, God, please, please. Okay. Oh, listen, I will, I will get hockey lessons. Okay. I am athletic. I can be goalie. I can do whatever they need.

• 42:53Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God. And I'm now I'm like picturing me just putting you in the place of that guy, but I'm like picturing the scene where he's like in the crowd and he like tells him to come down. And you're running onto the ice to get your big kiss.

• 43:07Speaker 03

  Or like I can also play like, cause there's hockey, but then like, what if I was just like, maybe I was a figure skater? You know what I mean? Like.

• 43:16Drew Afualo?

  Forbidden love.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  But I would need a stunt double because I can't hit the triple axel yet. The triple axel into like my big man hugging me. I don't know which one would be my type though.

• 43:25Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 43:25Speaker 03

  They would have to, we would have to write in a new character.

• 43:28Drew Afualo?

  We'd have to workshop.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  Because they're all very pretty.

• 43:32Drew Afualo?

  And taken.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  And that's amazing. And taken, but I need like, man.

• 43:36Drew Afualo?

  I need a man.

• 43:36Speaker 03

  I need a man.

• 43:39Speaker 03

  Okay, so that's.

• 43:41Drew Afualo?

  And you know what? Since I'm moving into acting too, or trying to, I feel the same way because I'm a big girl too.

• 43:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 43:48Drew Afualo?

  So I'm like, I need them to be at least a little bit bigger than me. Like I can't be the big man.

• 43:53Speaker 03

  No.

• 43:53Drew Afualo?

  On set. It's gotta be someone else.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 43:55Drew Afualo?

  That being said though, if I can be honest with you for a sec, I am getting, I am a little nervous about doing intimacy scenes. Intimacy. I am a little nervous, only because men infuriate me. So I'm worried that will translate on the camera.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:10Drew Afualo?

  Gonna have to really method act.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  I can't imagine being in your, but like to even like be in the same room as a straight man, like sometimes I'm like, ooh. But like to be in an intimacy scene with them. No.

• 44:22Drew Afualo?

  I'm so deeply horrified and worried about it. That being said, I am a liar and I will do it.

• 44:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:28Drew Afualo?

  But I, I'm very, like even sometimes, like one time I was telling my cousin Adam, it was like super early in the morning. He was blaming me. And I was like, I had just done like maybe my very first self tape ever.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Right.

• 44:39Drew Afualo?

  For something that had no romance. I was a real side character, didn't even get it. So it's not a big deal. But when I sent it in, I was like telling Adam, I was like, I don't know. Just sometimes I think about doing intimacy, intimacy scenes and I get nervous. Cause I'm like, what if like, oh, what if it has to be like so intimate and whatever? I was like really stressing about it as if something was happening.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  Like you got cast in the role.

• 45:01Drew Afualo?

  And it's literally four in the morning when he is blaming me. He goes, okay, first of all, you haven't been cast. So why don't you calm down? First of all, calm down. And I was laughing and he goes, second of all, just like, I think it'll be fine.

• 45:11Speaker 03

  I think you're gonna be so good.

• 45:12Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, here I am creating problems I haven't even had yet. But that's what we do.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  That's what we do.

• 45:17Drew Afualo?

  We have to be prepared.

• 45:18Speaker 03

  Because we see it. And I think that is the thing. It's like, we see it happening for ourselves. So we already feel the feelings before it even exists.

• 45:26Drew Afualo?

  And I'm like, how am I gonna do this?

• 45:27Speaker 03

  Yep, just going crazy, but. In a way that you can see, it's like, that's just us being artistic.

• 45:33Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:34Drew Afualo?

  And again, manifesting.

• 45:35Speaker 03

  Manifesting.

• 45:36Drew Afualo?

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• 46:51Speaker 03

  I've been really watching reality lately and I have been watching Married at First Sight. Have you seen?

• 46:57Drew Afualo?

  I've never watched it, but I do know it.

• 46:59Speaker 03

  Girl.

• 47:00Drew Afualo?

  That is crazy though.

• 47:01Speaker 03

  Season was wild. No one is talking about it. It really is like.

• 47:07Drew Afualo?

  It's just you watching it.

• 47:08Speaker 03

  I'm not kidding. Me on Google looking up applications. I will do it all. I'll do it all. I was trying to get a Married at First Sight. I was like, all I need is someone who is, I mean, yes, I need to be physically attracted to them. I need you to be like committed to wanting to be in this relationship and wanting to choose me, nice to me. Like I will give the matchmakers my physical attributes or whatever and just show up at that damn altar. Put the ring on my finger and we figure it out from there. Okay? Cause it's really.

• 47:37Drew Afualo?

  Just show up.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  That's it. Married at First Sight. I think it would be really great, but that show is really so, so, so good. I'm also watching The Ultimatum.

• 47:45Drew Afualo?

  OT.

• 47:45Speaker 03

  That, but those shows for me are like mindless. So I can be working. I can be doing other things as I'm watching them and that's.

• 47:53Drew Afualo?

  That's how Dace watches Housewives.

• 47:55Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 47:55Drew Afualo?

  She's like, it's good for me.

• 47:56Speaker 03

  It's very that. I do want to be watching more scripted television. I've been re-watching, um, Search Party.

• 48:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I've never heard of that.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Oh, you need to.

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• 48:39Speaker 04

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• 48:45Speaker 05

  Love the crown molding.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 48:50Speaker 05

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, one hundred percent fiber internet.

• 48:54Speaker 04

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 48:58Speaker 05

  No FiOS? Yeah. No, thank you.

• 49:01Speaker 04

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• 49:04Speaker 06

  Get Verizon FiOS because when you're moving, it's one hundred percent or nothing.

• 49:10Speaker 03

  Watch Search Party.

• 49:11Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 49:12Speaker 03

  It is phenomenal. Um, it's a comedy thriller.

• 49:16Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, tea.

• 49:16Speaker 03

  There's five seasons. It takes place in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. And I'm forgetting the main actress's name, but John Early is in it.

• 49:25Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 49:26Speaker 03

  Hilarious and it's, it's so, so good.

• 49:29Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, tea.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  That's another show that I feel like I would love to be in because I mean, it doesn't, it's not happening anymore. But like, uh, again, I love action and comedy.

• 49:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 49:39Speaker 03

  There's so many ways to bridge it together.

• 49:40Drew Afualo?

  That's true. And then there's a lot of like space for improv if it's funny.

• 49:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:44Drew Afualo?

  When it's like funny, you can kind of like, you know, have fun with the lines or play a little bit.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  What should I watch though?

• 49:50Drew Afualo?

  So tea.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Do you have any like good, good shows for me?

• 49:52Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God, girl. I've been talking about this show forever and like, for no reason other than I was just such a huge fan. The show Paradise.

• 50:00Speaker 03

  Never heard of it.

• 50:01Drew Afualo?

  Bitch, on Hulu.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 50:03Drew Afualo?

  You gotta watch it. It's crazy. It's only two right now.

• 50:07Speaker 03

  Oh, easy.

• 50:08Drew Afualo?

  Cause it's new and it's starring Sterling K. Brown and James Marsden's another person in it. I'm forgetting everybody else's name, but I just know Sterling K. Brown's the main character. And he plays, um, essentially the head of Secret Service of the current president of the United States. But it opens, it takes place in the now, but a little bit in the future.

• 50:31Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 50:31Drew Afualo?

  And it's basically, he's the head of Secret Service and the right-hand guy, like the most trusted advisor to the president when the world ends. And so the world ends, like that's, I won't spoil anything else because it's like a crazy spoiler, even at the end of the first, very first episode.

• 50:45Speaker 03

  The world ended though?

• 50:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but the world, they, he was in office when the world ended. So like, it's kind of like, you have to go back in time first and then you go back to the present.

• 50:53Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm into that.

• 50:54Drew Afualo?

  It's fucking nuts.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  Another season coming?

• 50:58Drew Afualo?

  The newest season came out this year. So like, I watched it right before I moved and I remember me, me and my man, like there was like the season finale. And we watched it in our old house with just like, we just had two chairs and nothing else in the house. When I was like, I need to fucking watch this. I need to watch this. Uh, cause our TV hadn't been taken yet. And so it's fucking crazy.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  Love.

• 51:19Drew Afualo?

  It's so dramatic. It's like a thriller. It's like kind of funny, but it's mostly a thriller, a serious, and it's really sad, but it's crazy.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm into it.

• 51:28Drew Afualo?

  Like it gets, the plot just gets nuts and like, and, and it's so fun to watch. It's like, it's one of those where I haven't, uh, it was so random that I just like, was like, ah, let's try this. Let's watch this. I never do that either. I'm like, I'm so, I've been diagnosed for this, so don't, um, like by the internet before, where I just watch the same things, like over and over again.

• 51:47Speaker 03

  I mean, me with Search Party. I'm like, there's so many new things that are coming out, but like, I always find myself re-watching something. Because that's the beauty of television or movies or anything. Like I've seen The Odyssey now like three times, even though it's like a three hour movie, like I'm really crazy. But every single time I see it, like I pick up on something different.

• 52:06Drew Afualo?

  Love that.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  And then you know what happens at the end. So you, at the beginning can make the connectors.

• 52:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  That's why I re-watch television because I'm like, now I actually understand why that character did that, you know? It just takes maybe a little bit slower. It just takes me a little bit longer.

• 52:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too. Me too. I feel like, uh, when Chris Fleming was on, he said that he's a culture scavenger.

• 52:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:27Drew Afualo?

  So he just goes and digs through all the rubbish after everyone's done with it. So that, that's me with heated rivalry.

• 52:33Speaker 03

  Have you seen Interview with a Vampire?

• 52:35Drew Afualo?

  No, but it's on my list.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Because I'm gonna credit Joe for this one because he's been telling me to watch it for a really, really long time. And I watched the first season. I haven't seen the second season yet, but that one is really phenomenally done. And it's also like gay plotlines and it's like.

• 52:51Drew Afualo?

  And sexy.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  Sexy and it's vampires. It's like, and it's like French and it's like, ooh.

• 52:57Drew Afualo?

  I actually wrote that one down to watch because I'm writing my fiction book.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  Right.

• 53:02Drew Afualo?

  So that's actually why I watched Paradise. Cause I was like, I'm gonna try to watch different things and maybe things in different languages and cultures to try and like, see how people depict love, romance, friendship, like brotherhood, sisterhood, that kind of thing. So Paradise was like wonderful because the way they write characters is so beautiful in that show. And their like connection to each other. But Interview with a Vampire, I had written down too, because that's fantasy element.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:25Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, okay, maybe I need to get into this. I just recently watched my first Korean drama.

• 53:31Speaker 03

  Oh, how was it?

• 53:32Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, a gag.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:34Drew Afualo?

  It was so camp. Like I was, I was like, oh, this is camp and fucking crazy. And every, like the plots are just fucking insane.

• 53:43Speaker 03

  Now, when you're watching TVs or a TV or a movie in a different language, are you watching it in the language with subtitles in English or are you watching with dubbed?

• 53:52Drew Afualo?

  I'm watching it in the native language.

• 53:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's the way to do it.

• 53:54Drew Afualo?

  With, with English subtitles. Yeah. So I was, I watched.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  You're like, watch.

• 53:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I, so you have to watch.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  You have to.

• 53:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that was another thing. Yeah. I was like, I called like, I watched this dumbass show on Netflix called, uh, Finding Her Edge. Also love, if you're into ice skaters.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  I'm obsessed with ice skaters.

• 54:08Drew Afualo?

  Girl, I watched the 10 second preview thing that they show and it was like, you can't pair me with the bad boy of ice dancing. Clicked.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  Done.

• 54:18Drew Afualo?

  Hey, sold me.

• 54:19Speaker 03

  And it's, it's like act it. It's an actual.

• 54:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, scripted. Yeah. So it's like, it is, it's like, uh, the summer I turned pretty-esque. Like it's like, it's corny. It's a love triangle. It's one of those.

• 54:31Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 54:32Drew Afualo?

  Loved it.

• 54:32Speaker 03

  It sometimes takes me a second to get into something and I don't give shows enough time. If you're not getting me in the first five minutes, I'm like, all right, um, next one.

• 54:44Drew Afualo?

  Wrap it up. I'm done.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  I'm like, I don't even know. Like I think I'm the best actor in the world. I've never gotten on stage. That's how they're gonna read that line. Come on, girl. Next.

• 54:53Drew Afualo?

  Well, I made this joke to Leo Gonzalez two months where I was like, do you ever watch some things and you're like, I could do that.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  Right. But like that's.

• 55:01Drew Afualo?

  My arrogance, but not.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  That's delusional brain.

• 55:04Drew Afualo?

  Well, and also like.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  Any gay man with Drag Race. I'm like, you try to do makeup babe, but you sew that dress. They're like, I could do that. I'm like, no, you can't.

• 55:12Drew Afualo?

  No, you can't. But when I watch Sydney Sweeney act, yes, I can.

• 55:15Speaker 03

  Yes. We, we all could do that.

• 55:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I can.

• 55:20Speaker 03

  But I, if, yeah, for sure.

• 55:22Drew Afualo?

  I recommend Paradise. If you're gonna, and I'll watch your Search Party.

• 55:26Speaker 03

  Done.

• 55:26Drew Afualo?

  Look at that. Look at us. We're exchanging.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  I genuinely will watch Paradise within the next two weeks. How, how long are the episodes?

• 55:32Drew Afualo?

  Uh, I think they're like 30, 40 minutes.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Easy.

• 55:35Drew Afualo?

  Nothing crazy.

• 55:35Speaker 03

  Give me a day.

• 55:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 55:38Drew Afualo?

  And you're just like me too, because with reality, because the only reality show I ever keep up with, but I do always watch when it comes out is, uh, The Great British Baking Show.

• 55:47Speaker 03

  Easy.

• 55:48Drew Afualo?

  The only one that I'm like, every year I'm like, yes. Every time it comes back, I'm like, yes, oh my God.

• 55:53Speaker 03

  Like so sweet.

• 55:54Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 55:55Speaker 03

  Like, and the, the music in the background is just like, oh, you're just happy watching it, you know?

• 56:00Drew Afualo?

  No, it's the best. I literally tell everyone, it's like, they're competing for a fucking cake stand.

• 56:05Speaker 03

  You're like, it's cake week.

• 56:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, oh my God, it's bread week. I love that show. Oh my God. Every time, every time I get approached about reality, I'm like, no, no, no. Every time they try to put me on reality, anything, I'm like, no, unless you're talking about The Great British Baking Show.

• 56:18Speaker 03

  Well, that's like that.

• 56:19Drew Afualo?

  Get me on that show.

• 56:21Speaker 03

  Dream is, I mean, I have so many dreams. I think that that is also the problem with like trying to find your path. Cause I wanna act, of course, like reality, I'll do it. I'll either host or I'll be on Love is Blind. I'll do whatever you need. But when it comes to food and me, I'm obsessed with food in a crazy way. I want to be the next generation's, um, Guy Fieri. Get me a show like Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives.

• 56:45Drew Afualo?

  Andrew, when I tell you that's my man's favorite show ever, he showed me Triple D.

• 56:51Speaker 03

  It's so good.

• 56:52Drew Afualo?

  It's so fucking good.

• 56:54Speaker 03

  With these Triple D's? We're rolling out. Let's go.

• 56:57Drew Afualo?

  I'll show you some Triple D's.

• 56:58Speaker 03

  Exactly. But to get paid to eat and be filmed and talk to the chef.

• 57:02Drew Afualo?

  You would kill at something like that.

• 57:05Speaker 03

  Let's get it. Like, you know, like so.

• 57:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  That's a dream manifesting that as well.

• 57:09Drew Afualo?

  Me thinking about people, if I can plug you into that, I'm like, who do I know? Let me think, who do I know that's connected to Guy Fieri?

• 57:16Speaker 03

  And the way that he says his last name, it's either Fieri or he likes to say Fieri.

• 57:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Fieri.

• 57:21Speaker 03

  Italian, but I'm like, you are not Italian. Nothing about that hair is Italian. Okay?

• 57:27Drew Afualo?

  Listen.

• 57:30Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God, Andrew, imagine he like passed the torch to you.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  I would, yeah, I would, I would love that. Give me the torch.

• 57:38Drew Afualo?

  Or like man versus.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  Give me that corvette.

• 57:39Drew Afualo?

  Man versus food.

• 57:40Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 57:40Drew Afualo?

  You ever seen that one?

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 57:42Drew Afualo?

  That one's scary.

• 57:43Speaker 03

  Food, yeah, that one's a little bit like.

• 57:45Drew Afualo?

  That one's a little much. Yeah.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  That one for me, I don't think I can throw myself into that one quite yet. Um, but yeah, any like, any like, even traveling and eating the cuisines.

• 57:54Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl.

• 57:55Speaker 03

  Just talking to the camera. I'll, I'll do it.

• 57:57Drew Afualo?

  That is truly a job made for you. Honestly, you would kill at something like that.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  And I can do that on my own as well. I understand that. Like, I could do all of this, but I'm just like.

• 58:06Drew Afualo?

  That's not the point.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  I want the network to come call it. Like, sorry, I'm.

• 58:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, is that so wrong?

• 58:12Speaker 03

  Oh, sorry. I've been waiting for the Food Network to reach out, but they haven't. So.

• 58:17Drew Afualo?

  I'll tell you, like I got an ask to go on, um, God, what's the one? With

• 58:23Speaker 03

  Bobby Flay?

• 58:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:25Speaker 03

  Beat Bobby Flay?

• 58:26Drew Afualo?

  Is it, uh, Iron Chef or? No, Gordon Ramsay. It's with Gordon Ramsay.

• 58:30Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 58:31Drew Afualo?

  I forget the one where he has them compete and then they like serve it to guest judges or whatever.

• 58:35Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 58:36Drew Afualo?

  I thought it was Beat Bobby Flay too, but it wasn't. I think it was Gordon Ramsay. It was Master Chef.

• 58:41Speaker 03

  Master Chef.

• 58:41Drew Afualo?

  Was it? No, no. Iron Chef. That's what it is. I, I got an ass to do Iron Chef, like be like a guy, but I thought they were having me cook. And I was like, oh no, I can't cook for shit. I literally told my team, I was like, I can't cook for shit. You're not getting me, girl.

• 58:54Speaker 03

  They want you on Iron Chef?

• 58:57Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I can't be doing that shit. And then they were like, no, no, no. Like the, it's to be a judge. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I would love to do that. I literally was like, oh, I get served and I get to tell jokes and be annoying. Yeah.

• 59:10Speaker 03

  And like eat the food and be like, good.

• 59:13Drew Afualo?

  I mean, like, mm, I hate sour cream, so.

• 59:15Speaker 03

  Sorry. Sour cream on the side. It's like a Michelin chef.

• 59:20Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God. I, I think that is so T. You would, you would rock at Triple D.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  I would love.

• 59:25Drew Afualo?

  Oh, oh my God. Okay. I'm going to think about that.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  Or it's just called Double D's.

• 59:28Drew Afualo?

  Double D's.

• 59:30Speaker 03

  Son. Triple D, Double D?

• 59:32Drew Afualo?

  I am, my wheels are turning.

• 59:33Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 59:34Drew Afualo?

  I'm thinking.

• 59:34Speaker 03

  Full talk.

• 59:35Drew Afualo?

  I'm, all the cogs are turning. Okay. I do have some fun facts about you.

• 59:38Speaker 03

  Please.

• 59:39Drew Afualo?

  Um, but you can let me know if they're fun.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:42Drew Afualo?

  Uh, and it says, last time Andrew was on the show, we unpacked some of your past jobs, including F45 trainer.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 59:50Drew Afualo?

  And congressional finance intern.

• 59:51Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 59:52Drew Afualo?

  So we dug up other past jobs of yours that we could find and you can just kind of comment as you please.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  Scared.

• 59:59Drew Afualo?

  Okay. Well, the first one's not that bad. And I did know this about you. You were a spin instructor for two years.

• 1:00:03Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:00:04Drew Afualo?

  How was spin?

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  It was amazing.

• 1:00:06Drew Afualo?

  Like instructing it?

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  Instructing it was amazing because it also, it just feels, one, you get to make the playlist. So I'm a DJ. Two, I'm a choreographer. Three, like I'm on mic. So, and you're just kind of like, and tap it back. And tap it back. You know, it's just like, and it's fun. And like, when you can get like, cause also you can take the opportunity to get off the bike and no one's like, oh, he doesn't want to ride. Like, I don't want to ride, but you're just like walking around and you're telling people things.

• 1:00:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  And I liked it. I liked to take other spin classes to hear what coaches were saying. And I recently went to, I think I, I don't know if I told, maybe I told Jason this, but I was, I was in a SoulCycle class in LA.

• 1:00:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God.

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  And there was this coach and he gets off bike and he's just like walking around and speak, saying things that didn't make sense, but then I'd be like, no, he's so T for that. He's, he was like, you know what the traffic looks like on the high road? There is none. Pick it up. I'm like, oh shit. I was like, I will take the high road. You are so right. You are so right. Like I will not keep perseverating on that, that thing.

• 1:01:13Drew Afualo?

  You're so real. You're so real.

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  So like, it's just like, that's what I was able to like throw out there when I was a spin instructor.

• 1:01:21Drew Afualo?

  Say a bunch of things.

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  The crazy things that people are like, just getting someone to woo was everything. They were like, woo.

• 1:01:30Speaker 03

  It did my job. I did it.

• 1:01:32Drew Afualo?

  You said I live for it.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I did that two years.

• 1:01:34Drew Afualo?

  That's honestly so real because I did, um, my first group class. I haven't done a group fitness class in fucking years.

• 1:01:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:40Drew Afualo?

  And my girlfriend was like, oh, do you want to take a bar class with me? And I was like, oh my God, yeah, sure. Like I go to this bar class. I was like, never done bar. I like, I'm familiar with it, with the trappings of it, but I've never done one. Bitch, I sweat through my sweat, my sports bra, first of all.

• 1:01:54Speaker 03

  Wild. I did it once.

• 1:01:56Drew Afualo?

  Through that though. There was probably like nine of us in there, older women, and then me and my girlfriend, like every, everyone was like in their late forties and then it's the two of us. And at first, when I walked in, I like grabbed, like, I was like a couple of minutes late because I had to park like somewhere crazy. And so they had just started and so everyone already had their like weights, like their little weights. And there was a giant pile of them. So I just went and grabbed two and I like ran over to the side, one pound dumbbells. Have you ever seen a one pound dumbbell?

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  I

• 1:02:25Drew Afualo?

  I had never seen one in my life.

• 1:02:26Speaker 03

  I have seen a one pound dumbbell, actually.

• 1:02:28Drew Afualo?

  Never in my life. Yeah, they're so itty bitty. I was like.

• 1:02:32Speaker 03

  Deceiving.

• 1:02:33Drew Afualo?

  No, right. And I was like, one pound dumbbell. I was like, I've never seen this in my life. I was like, I could put this up my ass, girl. This thing is so small.

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  I probably have.

• 1:02:42Drew Afualo?

  And so like my, the instructor was like already on mic. So she was already talking. And she comes over and she brings me like eight pound dumbbells. Like she was like, nice try bitch. Take these. Like she was like, oh, she was like, okay, here you go. And gave me, took my little ass weights. I was like, damn. So difficult, but so fun.

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:59Drew Afualo?

  Had a blast. At the end, I loved the instructor too. She was wonderful. She like turns the lights off. Like we, again, I'm, I sweat through my fucking bra, which doesn't even happen to me when I go to the gym. So like even if I'm doing cardio at the gym, that doesn't happen. So I was like, I was like, like real. I was like soaked.

• 1:03:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:16Drew Afualo?

  We're sitting down, we're like cooling down, doing the cooldown thing. And she was doing the playlists and everything too, which was killer. And then when she's like, okay, let's like sit up and fold our legs, like sit up straight. Let's take deep breaths, like reach up. Bring into this pose, right? Like into the namaste pose. And she goes, and thank yourself for showing up today. Bitch, I was almost moved to tears.

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  No, you always are.

• 1:03:42Drew Afualo?

  I literally felt like I woke, I felt like I was like, I fucking love you ladies. You hear me? I just met these girls.

• 1:03:48Speaker 03

  I need that sort of like affirmation and like that gets you going.

• 1:03:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're so real. I was like, cause when I heard that, I was like, God, you're so right. I did show up today.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  And like, especially with spin, like we're tapping it back to kiss you by one direction. Like, yeah, I'm doing body rolls. Like you're doing whatever I want you to do and you're having a good time.

• 1:04:10Drew Afualo?

  We gotta go to a group class together.

• 1:04:11Speaker 03

  I would genuinely.

• 1:04:12Drew Afualo?

  I've never done spin.

• 1:04:13Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:04:14Drew Afualo?

  I'm so scared, but I would love to try.

• 1:04:16Speaker 03

  Let's go to a spin class. I will say sometimes when my spin classes were not like the way that these girls are running at, they're sprinting out of the saddle in a way I've never seen legs move like that.

• 1:04:27Drew Afualo?

  Well, bitch, like what are you training for?

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  What are you? No, literally what are you training for? Cause they're like, this is, this is, this is. Okay. Like I want to be hitting the beat to like

• 1:04:37Drew Afualo?

  Hello?

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  Literally to like a Tyler song and like throwing my ass. That's the class.

• 1:04:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I want to be bouncing to three, six, five by Charli XCX. What's going on here?

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  Crunch and a press.

• 1:04:50Drew Afualo?

  Okay. So we did spin.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:52Drew Afualo?

  Uh, it says, you worked for the travel company EF to recruit new host families.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  Oh, so, okay. So I did two things at EF. Uh, one, I was recruiting host families for, for foreign students to come.

• 1:05:07Drew Afualo?

  Stay with their families?

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  They were, they were foreign students staying with host families in Canada.

• 1:05:13Drew Afualo?

  Whoa.

• 1:05:14Speaker 03

  And the fact that I was even facilitating that at 23 years old didn't feel correct. But I was talking to these people in Canada and like trying to place students at their homes. Very interesting. That was on the off hours of work actually, because I was a hustler and I was doing a lot. But the actual job at EF Tours was I was selling international trips to high school teachers to take their students abroad. So if there was a French teacher and I specifically to get even easier, was working with Cincinnati, Ohio. So I'd call, I'd talk to this woman. I'd be like, Donna, she's a French teacher. Like Donna, your kids are going to be obsessed with Paris.

• 1:05:57Speaker 03

  She's like, I know they want to go to Paris. I'm like, no, you don't understand. And you need to go to the French Riviera as well. She's freaking out. I'm like, yes, yes, yes. And then I would just sell, sell, sell, sell.

• 1:06:07Drew Afualo?

  Crazy bitch. But you are a salesperson bitch. That is what you are.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  I was talking about the Swiss Alps like I've been there.

• 1:06:16Speaker 03

  You are good. It's breathtaking. You will just lose your mind.

• 1:06:22Drew Afualo?

  You're looking at a picture. Oh God, Donna, you can't even believe.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  You, they would be like, they'd be like, I'm thinking about bringing my kids to Australia and I know in my head, I can't present that price. It's too expensive.

• 1:06:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:33Speaker 03

  So I'd say, you ever think about Belize?

• 1:06:38Speaker 03

  She'd be like, no, I'm like, so I know you want to go to Australia for the Great Barrier Reef, but they have amazing coral reefs in Belize. But I quote her, half the price, done. Like I loved that job.

• 1:06:51Drew Afualo?

  Hey, I loved that job.

• 1:06:52Speaker 03

  I was really.

• 1:06:53Drew Afualo?

  But I think that's what's so magical about you is that you will bloom where you're planted, girl. Like wherever you are, you are making the most of it.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  That was the one job. That was right before we started the podcast and I'll never forget. I sent an email on the last day. Like a wild person and I sent the email and I was like, it's time for me to chase my dreams. And, um, it's time for, like I'm starting this podcast, whatever. A year later, we performed to 700 people in Boston and they all were there. And I was like, I manifested that shit.

• 1:07:26Speaker 03

  Cause I felt it at that job. They always made me like team morale. They were like, Andrew, can you say something? Can you like do a little swung and dance? Like I was like a freaking puppet. I was like, yeah, I'll do a little swung and dance for everybody today. And it was like always the entertainment. And I was like, why am I doing this at this company? I could do it somewhere else. I can do it for myself.

• 1:07:45Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:07:46Speaker 03

  And that's when I decided, I said, we're doing this podcast.

• 1:07:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. You're so fucking T. I, even when I was in, um, when I was in college, I wrote for my college newspaper for a while. And I was like a sports editor of my college newspaper for a while. And I remember like everyone, I, obviously I've always been who I am. So I'm, I'm, I love to tell stories. I love to entertain. I love to make people laugh. And so one time I went into the office that we had and one of my buddies who worked at the paper, he was older than me and he had taught me a lot of stuff, but he was like, I'm having the worst day. And I was like, damn, really? And he goes, yeah. Can you tell me a story to like make me laugh? And that was, I remember one of those times where I thought to myself, I am hilarious and a delight.

• 1:08:28Speaker 03

  And I can tell stories. It's amazing.

• 1:08:30Drew Afualo?

  Wonderful and amazing.

• 1:08:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:32Drew Afualo?

  And I remember my college newspaper too, that was around the time when I was in college that it was like Buzzfeed was huge at the time and like the YouTube of it all was huge. And my college newspaper was trying to do like YouTube videos.

• 1:08:43Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:08:44Drew Afualo?

  And they were like, well, no one wants to be in them. Cause a lot of people who write like, don't want to be on camera. Like a lot of people, journalists, they don't really care for that. So like, they were like, who should we ask? Let's ask Drew. Cause they knew I loved attention. Then they asked me. And I remember the first one I ever did was with one of my buddies. He was really sweet and so smart, but he was the complete opposite of me. Like, he was so like, he, he was like nerdy by his own admission. He was like, he was nerdy, he loved Dungeons and Dragons, like that kind of thing. But he and I really got along and he, like, they paired us together to do the Bean Boozled, like Jelly Bean Challenge. That was the most insane video ever. I remember being so disgusted at one point. I like literally couldn't even go for it. I was like, I'm not trying another one, sorry. But I was like cracking jokes with him the whole time.

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  How many jelly beans were you eating?

• 1:09:29Drew Afualo?

  We had to do like four or five. I was like, hey, hey, hey, I'm over it. I'm sick of it. And like, and I remember like it, we were riffing with each other and laughing and like having so much fun that they just kept bringing me back to do shit. Like they were like, okay, could you come back and do another one? Show me how to do another one. And that was around the time I felt the same way where I was like, you know what?

• 1:09:47Speaker 03

  Let me do it for myself.

• 1:09:48Drew Afualo?

  You guys are so right.

• 1:09:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Drew Afualo?

  I'm hilarious.

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  I did this push.

• 1:09:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Thank you. Now it's time for me to spread my wings.

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  Exactly. I'm flying myself email.

• 1:09:56Drew Afualo?

  Okay, last one. It says, you were in the Loyola student group, the Evergreens, who welcome new students and lead summer orientation.

• 1:10:05Speaker 03

  You look at me and you say, he was an orientation leader. Come on. And you get to campus, I'm like, woo, let's go.

• 1:10:11Drew Afualo?

  You're walking backwards.

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, we were, so we, I was not only a, a orientation leader, but Evergreens, I went to Loyola, Maryland, in Baltimore, and we had this program called Messina, I think. And I was with like fifteen students for the entire year and I was.

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• 1:11:01Speaker 03

  Like their mentor, basically.

• 1:11:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 1:11:03Speaker 03

  Which was actually really nice because I had like students coming out to me. I was like the first resource for them to like feel comfortable, which was really, really nice. Um, and yeah, it was such a, such a beautiful experience and I loved, loved being an orientation leader. I was so classic at that. And that's why also, another show we can manifest here in this chair.

• 1:11:23Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  Overcompensating.

• 1:11:25Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:11:26Speaker 03

  Easy done next. Because like, I would genuinely just want to be an orientation leader. Like, that's it. And I know that there's other people, like Bowman was on it, like, obviously loved Benny.

• 1:11:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:39Speaker 03

  But yeah, seeing that too, that was the closest I've ever felt to my actual gay journey as well, which was wild.

• 1:11:46Drew Afualo?

  That's what Jason said. She said the same exact thing because we were all in college at the time.

• 1:11:49Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:11:49Drew Afualo?

  That he films that in that time.

• 1:11:51Speaker 03

  It was not only like the, the time, like hearing Gucci Gucci on a show. I was like, what do you mean I'm hearing that? Like that was, and I was that good. Like unfortunately, like there are certain eras of my life, like I was rapping Gray Sean, like, like every single one.

• 1:12:07Drew Afualo?

  Of course I was.

• 1:12:07Speaker 03

  Of course, look, look at me.

• 1:12:08Drew Afualo?

  Of course I was. I was a gay man in the 2010s.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  Right. And like also his like, his, I don't know, like the falling in love with the guy that you think is gay, but is actually not gay plotline is so gut wrenching, but so integral to college, especially for me, for like my gay journey.

• 1:12:24Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  But yeah, that, that was orientation into overcompensating. I'm ready. Give me a, season three, because they just filmed season two.

• 1:12:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you, you let me know.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  You let me know.

• 1:12:34Drew Afualo?

  Oh, and I, I think that's, again, a so indicative of who you are is like being someone's first resource and being a delight and a joy. I once sent Caleb a meme I saw on Instagram that was like, you ever look at someone and you could just tell they were really involved on campus?

• 1:12:50Speaker 03

  Very.

• 1:12:50Drew Afualo?

  I was like, and that is you.

• 1:12:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:53Drew Afualo?

  I'm getting the same energy from you.

• 1:12:54Speaker 03

  It was like orientation leader to a cappella to student government to like Spanish club to ukulele. I did everything.

• 1:13:01Drew Afualo?

  You did, that's so, I love that about you. You were so involved on campus.

• 1:13:06Speaker 03

  Yep. Yep.

• 1:13:07Drew Afualo?

  I think that's a beautiful thing.

• 1:13:09Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:13:10Drew Afualo?

  I love that. And I would love to know if you have any advice for any aspiring entertainers. Like, like I said, like I do have, I am going to suck your dick a little bit after you answer this question because I do have something I want to say, but about you and how much I love you. But I, I do think that you have, obviously Good Children has been wonderful and amazing and you have such a strong presence online and in comedy, but you are someone who is like pursuing so many different forms of entertainment and you are someone who keeps going, like no matter what, no matter through every season, every change. Like, do you have any advice for any aspiring entertainer?

• 1:13:44Speaker 03

  I would say to your point, it is, one, about being authentically yourself and just allowing yourself to not, to like, I don't know, rid yourself of shame in certain ways because I have the ability to do so many different things because I want to do that for myself. And that might not be the same trajectory as like, oh, you're just doing acting, stay in acting. I'm doing food, I'm doing fitness, I do whatever makes me happy because that is who I am. So I would say staying authentically, authentic to yourself. And also I think in this game or like entertainment or the creator space, it's like you have to allow yourself the space to fail and it's, and you cannot allow yourself to feel like

• 1:14:28Speaker 03

  a flop in that because I have also like with the podcast and then even trying to make my own content, like I was a finance major. I never saw this for myself and now I'm still learning as I go.

• 1:14:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:39Speaker 03

  And there are so many times where I'm like, God, like, I wish, as, as minute as it sounds, I'm like, I wish I had more followers. I wish like my video hit more, like, I feel like a flop, but there's, that is the one reason why you would stop.

• 1:14:54Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:14:55Speaker 03

  But I don't let myself stop because I'm like, the one day something happens or the right person sees me or whatever, that's my day. So that's my advice is like, keep going, be yourself and hopefully it will all fall into place.

• 1:15:09Drew Afualo?

  And it will, especially for you. I know that to be true. And I, and this is where I suck your dick just a little bit.

• 1:15:14Speaker 03

  Please.

• 1:15:15Drew Afualo?

  But I do think you are a delight and I think you're a joy. And like I said, I think you bloom where you're planted and that is so rare. Like it's rare to see someone who sees the beauty and the love in every phase of life and in, at every new beginning, at every new journey. And I'm so happy for you and I'm so proud of you and I can't wait, I am going to plug you into wherever the fuck you go. If you're, you, you know what? You, you sucked up to the right person is me, bitch.

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  There you go. There you go. Like, actually I have a guy for that. That's the thing, put me, put me in any situation, I'll make it work.

• 1:15:47Drew Afualo?

  No, and you are like genuinely such a talent. Like I really do think you are so fucking funny and you have such a unique perspective and that is what this world needs. Like the, the world of comedy, the world of entertainment, it needs uniqueness and it needs authenticity, like you were saying. And I think you have all of that in spades, girl. And on top of that, you have the, the best, brightest attitude. I love that about you.

• 1:16:08Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:16:09Drew Afualo?

  That is, it's really hard to find people who are genuinely just so happy like you. And I think that's wonderful.

• 1:16:16Speaker 03

  I appreciate that.

• 1:16:16Drew Afualo?

  And I think you're wonderful. And you and I are going to make out in heated rivalry together.

• 1:16:20Speaker 03

  Literally.

• 1:16:20Drew Afualo?

  They're going to put me in drag for heated rivalry.

• 1:16:22Speaker 03

  We're going to be in the heat too.

• 1:16:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you and I, buddy comedy.

• 1:16:26Speaker 03

  Please.

• 1:16:27Drew Afualo?

  Buddy cop comedy. I love that for us. Honestly, I saw this, I'll end the show with this. I saw this funny, or a Deadline article that Chris Fleming posted, that he, him and Arena Shake got cast in a rom com.

• 1:16:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:16:39Drew Afualo?

  And I was thinking to myself, the two of you?

• 1:16:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, like what?

• 1:16:42Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, I was like, I have to go see it. And then I saw they were both cast as the best friends and I was like, oh, I got edged when I read it, but then I was thinking, me and Andrew.

• 1:16:49Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 1:16:50Drew Afualo?

  We're going to be the best friends.

• 1:16:51Speaker 03

  People wouldn't expect it, but it also could be like a, I end up coming out as gay.

• 1:16:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and you're Arena Shake and I'm Chris Fleming.

• 1:16:57Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. I love that. I love it.

• 1:17:01Drew Afualo?

  Well, thank you so much for coming back.

• 1:17:02Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:17:03Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love you.

• 1:17:03Speaker 03

  Love you too.

• 1:17:04Drew Afualo?

  You're now a three P, just like Eric, so make you tell him to eat it.

• 1:17:06Speaker 03

  All right, I'll tell him to eat it. I'll also call him right now.

• 1:17:09Drew Afualo?

  Thank you all so much for watching. Thank you so much, my amazing guest, Andrew. Where can everybody find you?

• 1:17:15Speaker 03

  You can find me on Instagram at Andrew Muscarella. Um, and then you can find me on TikTok at Andrew underscore Musky. Um, if you want to listen to Good Children, we're taking a little break right now and I am in the works of potentially launching my own podcast as well, but so you have to follow me to find out all this information.

• 1:17:35Drew Afualo?

  Once you follow him on everything, you're going to fall in love with the Dunkin' Net himself.

• 1:17:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:38Drew Afualo?

  And then you're going to follow him wherever he goes, like me.

• 1:17:40Speaker 03

  Done.

• 1:17:40Drew Afualo?

  Thank you all so much for tuning into this week's episode. Don't forget, new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, YouTube. Thank you so much, my amazing guest, Andrew Muscarella. Thank you all so much for tuning in and I'll see you next week. Bye.