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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

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• 0:44Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 0:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 0:52Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 0:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:01Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 1:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 1:17Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 1:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 1:30Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 1:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 1:34Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 1:48Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 1:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:00Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a T-shirt for real.

• 2:06Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 2:15Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 2:18Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 2:19Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 2:33Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 2:34Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 2:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Carrie, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shirt. We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my gagla giggle Gigglers? My gagla Gigglers.

• 3:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm out of breath.

• 3:56Hannah Berner?

  You're out of breath because you were gossiping with someone in your house. Wait, that's called a drive by gossip when you like, you're like, I don't have time, but I have to tell you something.

• 4:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally said, I don't have time for this, so I'm gonna make this ten hour story into thirty seconds. So you can ruminate on it and then I'll be back.

• 4:17Hannah Berner?

  And then give me follow up questions. Um, but we're having like a wholesome episode. Cause we spent time with our parents last weekend. What did you do?

• 4:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I went out to dinner last night with my mother, my father and my brother.

• 4:33Hannah Berner?

  The OGs. I love when it gets back to the OGs. You're like, we started this family.

• 4:40Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so funny because my dad said that at dinner. He goes, when is it ever just the four of us?

• 4:45Hannah Berner?

  Parents love saying that. They love doing that.

• 4:48Paige DeSorbo?

  They love being nostalgic for a simpler time.

• 4:52Hannah Berner?

  Was it an Italian restaurant?

• 4:54Paige DeSorbo?

  It was an Italian restaurant. There was a Blessed Mary there. Uh, so everyone was safe. It is so funny as, not that my brother has children either, but like my parents are in a spot where like they're ready for grandchildren. They're kind of like, you know, like cool, whatever you want to do, but also like, we're bored.

• 5:17Hannah Berner?

  Like I am ready to be a hot grandma, like now.

• 5:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And like they do kind of talk about Kitty as if she is my child. Sometimes I feel like I'm like playing pretend. I'm like, this is my daughter. My mom's like, tell me what she did. I'm like, mom, this is sick. This is an animal. Like this is not a human child.

• 5:36Hannah Berner?

  Well, I messaged Dez. I said, butter says happy Father's Day. And he was like, okay.

• 5:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because like your brother has real human children.

• 5:46Hannah Berner?

  Oh shit, I didn't tell him happy. My brother's not a dad. Like I know he has, he has two and a half children, but like, he's not, he's my little brother. He's not getting a happy Father's Day. That's insane.

• 5:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It is funny to think of like your siblings, even like your close friends. Like whenever I see like a TikTok or a meme or something that's like, wait, my friend is a teacher and that's just like hilarious to me. Like it is weird to think of the people closest to you.

• 6:14Hannah Berner?

  Brother's a father.

• 6:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, okay, you're child rearing? Sure. Sure you are, dude.

• 6:21Hannah Berner?

  I love looking at his daughter being like, your dad is my little brother. I beat him up. I beat him up. Um, speaking of family, I had a realization this weekend. I was in Shelter Island with my family. And this is like, I don't know how I didn't understand this, but it hit me. We are the 5K family.

• 6:46Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 6:47Hannah Berner?

  Paige? Paige, when I tell you, it was Friday, my mom's like, come over, like, we have a fun weekend, like, let's spend time together, it's been forever. I was like, I would love to spend quality time with my parents.

• 6:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, sweet.

• 6:58Hannah Berner?

  And she goes, you know what's crazy? I'm singing the National Anthem for the 5K on Shelter Island this weekend. Can you come support me? And I said, of course, National Anthem, hitting that note, are you kidding? You're an icon. She goes, and maybe, maybe if we feel like it, we can walk it. Maybe if we, and I'm just like, okay.

• 7:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Trickster. She is such a trickster.

• 7:23Hannah Berner?

  Bamboozled. I was led astray. I get there and this bit, she's stretching a little. I'm like, that's funny, why is she stretching? And she's like, do you want a water? I'm like, why would I need a water?

• 7:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, was your dad there?

• 7:34Hannah Berner?

  My dad was there, but his foot hurts. So he's just standing there. He's fucking good.

• 7:40Paige DeSorbo?

  He's so good.

• 7:41Hannah Berner?

  He's giggling, looking at me. And then she's like, let's, look at all these little kids. Let's walk it. Let's walk it. It's fun. Let's walk it.

• 7:47Paige DeSorbo?

  What is, how long is a 5K? Like, how?

• 7:50Hannah Berner?

  It's around three miles, which again, what's three miles?

• 7:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well.

• 7:55Hannah Berner?

  It's not short.

• 7:56Paige DeSorbo?

  It's definitely not short.

• 7:58Hannah Berner?

  And why are we still doing 5K? Like, we're in America. Let's do miles. Why are we suddenly European when it comes to races? But I digress.

• 8:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, why are we suddenly European?

• 8:07Hannah Berner?

  I have no idea. It's like, then let's start calling it soccer or football.

• 8:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. Like, let's change all of our measurements, like, hello?

• 8:15Hannah Berner?

  Any consistency. But you know what it is? It's to trick people to run these races. They're like, it's.

• 8:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just a 5K.

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  It's just 5K. So she looks at me and she's like, let's just, let's start with a jog. And then if you're tired, we can walk. Now, mind you, yes, I've been playing some tennis. Yes. No, yeah, that's all I've been doing.

• 8:37Hannah Berner?

  I was about to list like all the

• 8:39Paige DeSorbo?

  The workout you've done.

• 8:40Hannah Berner?

  Physical activity. Look, I played some tennis and that is fast twitch muscles. Do you know what fast twitch muscles are?

• 8:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't.

• 8:47Hannah Berner?

  I'm a fast twitch muscle girly. That means in a sprint, she's ready. For a step, fast. Slow twitch muscles are people that can like, they run slower, but they run for long periods of time. I'm all power. I can like, run away from a lion, but like, if they're like, run with the lion for a long time, I'll be like, the lion could eat me.

• 9:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And what if your knees are?

• 9:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm sitting here weighing my options and I'm like, um.

• 9:15Hannah Berner?

  You're like, do I have a twitch?

• 9:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I would rather not be labeled in this situation.

• 9:21Hannah Berner?

  Me saying I have fast twitch muscles is so annoying. I'm

• 9:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you don't have fast twitch muscles? That's embarrassing for you.

• 9:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I also feel like you made that up.

• 9:32Hannah Berner?

  No, I turned to my mom and said, I have fast twitch muscles. I can't run a 5K. My muscles don't work that way. They're fast twitch. Ask my doctor.

• 9:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like if someone asks me to work out, I respond as if I am like your broke boyfriend that you like, haven't broken up with yet. I'm like, the way my body is actually like, set up is I can't access my legs right now because.

• 9:58Hannah Berner?

  But this is, let me just explain my mom. The bitch is fit.

• 10:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she is.

• 10:03Hannah Berner?

  I apologize for calling my mom a bitch on this podcast, but she knows.

• 10:06Paige DeSorbo?

  It's in an endearing way.

• 10:08Hannah Berner?

  But she deserved it this weekend because she was laughing. So she, and she looked at me and she's good at running. Like she's, she's light on her feet. She has slow twitch muscles. She's like, so we start jogging and I'm like, okay, like, this is, this is bad and I only have to do this for like, an hour longer. And there's like little kids passing me. There's like old people passing me. Like there's all types of people passing me.

• 10:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And they're running.

• 10:34Hannah Berner?

  And they're running. But you know what? I'm healed. Like I'm in my healed era where like, back in the day, if someone passed me, I'd be like, I can't let that 12 year old pass me. I'm gonna beat them. But now I say, you know what? That's not my journey today. But she's there and she's like, come on, let's speed it up. So we run one mile and I'm dying.

• 10:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, come on. What is this? 8th grade? Like, no.

• 10:56Hannah Berner?

  And also I'm like, this was supposed to be a beautiful weekend of bonding. By the way, no music, just silent, me and her running. Silent. And I, in my head, I go, what would Paige do right now? And I go, Paige wouldn't even put herself in this situation. So I can't.

• 11:09Paige DeSorbo?

  This is why I stay alert. I would have seen that line of questioning from Lenore and knew I was getting into a bad situation.

• 11:17Hannah Berner?

  Cause in my head, I was like, she wouldn't ask this of me.

• 11:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. You're like, this is my mom. This is.

• 11:23Hannah Berner?

  But she knows that I love her. And in that moment, she's like so excited to jog.

• 11:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:28Hannah Berner?

  And my fucking dad standing at the sidelines cheering.

• 11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say, that's my favorite part of this whole story is that your dad's like, oh, yeah, my foot hurts. Like, okay, sure it does.

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  That is literally me and you at any event when we get asked to do something and you always are the first one to get out of it. And then I'm stuck, holding the family together.

• 11:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, sorry, I just got a UTI.

• 11:52Hannah Berner?

  And just it. So I'm, I tell her, it's like embarrassing, but I'm like, and I was fit back in my day. Like my mom and I used to jog together. And I said, Mom, I'm a comedian now. I can't do this. So we stop, we're walking and she's like, okay, you ready to run again? And I'm like, okay. So we're on and off running the whole time and she's rolling her eyes at me. She's like, you're ruining my time. And I'm like, I didn't know we were doing a timed mile. That's like the number one rule that I told the gigglers I would never do. And then she was like, okay, well, don't make fun of me on Giggly Squad. And I said, well,

• 12:27Hannah Berner?

  don't do things that would cause me to tell on you on Giggly Squad.

• 12:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like a lot of people say that to us. And I'm like, okay, but I'm an entertainer. And what you've just given me is entertaining. And in my brain, I'm going to tell the story in a magnificent way. You're gonna love it.

• 12:46Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 12:47Paige DeSorbo?

  But this is my.

• 12:49Hannah Berner?

  This is my experience. And look, do we protect identities from people who?

• 12:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course.

• 12:55Hannah Berner?

  Of course, of course.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course.

• 12:57Hannah Berner?

  Of course. However, Mom, I'm throwing your name.

• 13:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:04Hannah Berner?

  All over the place because this was disrespectful. And then, well, at the very end, I sprinted and I won.

• 13:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, who were you against?

• 13:12Hannah Berner?

  My mom.

• 13:15Hannah Berner?

  No, but I beat my mom after telling her I needed to walk the whole time. And she was like, why did you sprint? And I was like, because everyone was watching. And I couldn't look like a loser.

• 13:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, I'm not going through the finish line with people thinking I walked it. Like, that's insane. Okay, it's so funny that we're like on walking TikTok right now, but like,

• 13:35Paige DeSorbo?

  God, we got here. I went on a walk with my parents this weekend, like a couple of times. And I think one of like my biggest revelations is that my dad is, he beats to his own drum. Like, he doesn't care. He's like the number one person that like doesn't care what other people are doing. He's like focused on his own, what he's doing, what his family's doing. Like, he doesn't know, he doesn't care. So like, he's never walking into a situation and feeling like embarrassed by anything because he's like, I don't know you and I don't care about you.

• 14:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And I learned that over the weekend when he went walking in jeans. And so

• 14:19Hannah Berner?

  That is so dad.

• 14:20Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so dad because I'm like, in my head, I'm like, well, what would he put on other than jeans? And then I'm thinking like, I've never seen my dad.

• 14:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Couple things. I've never seen my dad get in bed and I've never seen my dad get out of bed. He's just perpetually awake.

• 14:40Hannah Berner?

  You've never seen him not in jeans?

• 14:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And I've never seen him not in jeans. I've seen him in like a suit pant and a summer linen pant. But like in the winter, I'm thinking like, oh, wait, this man only knows jeans.

• 14:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep. And he's so comfortable in them.

• 14:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And he's so comfortable in them.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  They're perfectly broken in. He should be in a Levi's commercial. Did I pronounce it right? Levi's? Sorry.

• 15:07Hannah Berner?

  I panicked. Wait, that's so cute. Does your dad also like when he's hanging around the house sometimes if he is wearing shorts, like he pulls it up like too high? That's just my dad.

• 15:19Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I've never seen him in shorts. Wait, what? No, the only type of shorts I've seen him in are like khaki shorts.

• 15:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 15:26Paige DeSorbo?

  He might have like a white pair of linen shorts.

• 15:28Hannah Berner?

  I kinda wanna send him like a full Lululemon tracksuit, like windbreaker matching him or like in a velvet tracksuit, like so Italian?

• 15:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't get my brother started. He, he has zero athleisure. That's what it is. He has zero athleisure.

• 15:45Hannah Berner?

  So he doesn't work out. What does he do to work out?

• 15:48Paige DeSorbo?

  He walks and drinks coffee. His metabolism is fast.

• 15:54Hannah Berner?

  But he is you. That's what you do.

• 15:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, that was the other thing over the weekend. Um, the segment what pissed me off this week is just talking about that segment as a whole. That's just like taken from my real personality in my real life, like of talking to my mom, because like if I'm talking to my mom, I'm telling her multiple things that have pissed me off in the past couple of days. And this weekend I was popping off about something like in the comfort of my own home with my parents. And I'm like, and that couldn't, and like there was a lot of like, and then she did this. And so it was a lot of hands. It was a lot of facial expressions. I swore a lot.

• 16:31Hannah Berner?

  I have FOMO.

• 16:32Paige DeSorbo?

  But not at anyone, just like telling a story. And my family was like, it's just really crazy how like you are your dad and you have the exact same personality. And my brother was like, I thought dad was like really psycho, but you, you're so angry. Like, what are you? And my dad goes, yeah, Paige, I didn't get angry till like my 40s.

• 16:55Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I love how he's self-aware.

• 16:58Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's making me fucking angry, guys? That you think I'm angry?

• 17:02Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed that your dad literally goes, "One day I woke up forty and I said, 'I'm fucking over this shit. I'm done with you, I'm done with you, I'm done.'" For the first forty years, Gary was just like smiley, happy, whimsical.

• 17:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, he's misunderstood, honestly, now that they're saying that I'm like him. He's misunderstood.

• 17:22Hannah Berner?

  But I feel like he's not scary. I feel like he's not scary at all.

• 17:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he's not scary.

• 17:27Hannah Berner?

  Like Kim could be scary, like Lenore could be scary. That's scary.

• 17:31Paige DeSorbo?

  He's more like, "You're being stupid and that's pissing me off."

• 17:36Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 17:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, "Do it right."

• 17:37Hannah Berner?

  But when he's always a little mad, it doesn't come across as mad, because that's his baseline, you know?

• 17:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's his baseline.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  Which is actually how I feel about you.

• 17:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, which-

• 17:47Hannah Berner?

  Like, if you're a little too happy, I'm like, "Did we take..." "Did we slip a pill?" Like, last time when you were getting your eggs frozen, I didn't like that at all.

• 17:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, or like the time that I said I was excited to see you in LA and you were like, "Your page's phone got hacked, this is a scam email, she's trying to scam-text me to click a link."

• 18:08Hannah Berner?

  But Paige, this is my family. After the 5K, we go get dinner, whatever, get home. Barely enough time to watch TV, and you know I like to like, have-

• 18:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Decompress.

• 18:19Hannah Berner?

  TV time. Decompress, thank you. Wake up in the morning, 9 AM, we have to go play nine holes of golf.

• 18:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she's, she's running a training camp.

• 18:28Hannah Berner?

  The 5K family that I try to protect people from, and I realize it's in my own home.

• 18:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And sometimes it's right under your own nose.

• 18:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And sometimes it's your own family.

• 18:42Hannah Berner?

  The call is coming from inside the house. And then I thought back at things and I said, "Oh my god." But this is the thing. That's why there was one ex-boyfriend in particular, who I dated, who was not athletic, but he was like, successful in other things, and my family was like, "We don't care."

• 19:00Hannah Berner?

  My dad was like, can you throw the football with a good spiral or not? And like he, and I literally had to like pull him aside and I was like, hey, like this isn't a joke. This isn't a bit like my dad needs to see how high your vertical leap is. It's just part of like.

• 19:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Our culture.

• 19:15Hannah Berner?

  He didn't make the cut and like that wasn't my fault. It wasn't my family's fault. It was his fault.

• 19:21Paige DeSorbo?

  And sometimes that happens and sometimes that's not where you're meant to be. If you're like me, then you save a bunch of workout things on TikTok and then you never go back to them. And if you do go back to them, you try and do the moves and you're just like, am I even doing this right? That's why you need Ladder. It gives you a real plan from an expert coach. So if you're looking to grow your glutes, grow your biceps, you want to find abs, or maybe you just want a plan for when you're going on vacation this summer or something easy you can do. Ladder is an expert strength training plan and it's not a content library. These aren't influencer workouts or challenges. It's real progressive programming designed by certified coaches. And they can do any strength training style you prefer.

• 20:02Paige DeSorbo?

  So Pilates, bodybuilding, at home, hybrid strength, glute focused. Maybe you have kettlebells, you want a whole kettlebell workout plan, they can do it for you. And the app remembers your weights, your reps and sets. So you can see yourself getting stronger over time. And your team has a group chat where your coach answers questions and members motivate each other. So Ladder really is providing a structured workout plan and not random exercises. And it's like having a personal trainer in your headphones at all times. And it's less than $1 a day. So it's extremely accessible and so much better than $100 per session with a personal trainer. I also always feel like I want a personal trainer, but then I realize I don't really want to have to interact with somebody else.

• 20:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 21:30Paige DeSorbo?

  That is why I'm currently obsessed with alleys from Sam Edelman. They're a ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute, and I'm already envisioning my next outfit. Straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer, and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not. And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season, it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two.

• 22:15Paige DeSorbo?

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• 23:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 23:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:27Hannah Berner?

  But I do think playing sports, it is good for your mental health when you're not like breaking a racket or like getting in a fight with your family or like throwing your club. But overall, I had a great time, but like my mom tricked me into running a 5K. You know that I'm like also fragile right now.

• 25:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. She used to be more like open when she was telling you she was doing something and now she's gone on full trickery.

• 25:49Hannah Berner?

  Now she's doing full witchcraft.

• 25:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember during COVID how fit you were though?

• 25:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God. She made me go on so many walks. Oh my God. She was feeding me like best nutritional food.

• 26:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, remember during, remember when you got your appendix out? I feel like we moved on from that like so quickly.

• 26:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I know it was like five years ago, but like.

• 26:14Hannah Berner?

  Just send some love my way.

• 26:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, speaking of love.

• 26:18Hannah Berner?

  Great segue.

• 26:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course, like of course. I was like so angry when they put Love Island USA on at the same time that Love Island UK was on. Cause I was like, I can't do two Love Islands at the same time. That's like, I have a family. Like I can't be watching 50 episodes. So I was like, let me start Love Island UK and I'll let Love Island USA rack up a couple, whatever. I started Love Island UK, but then I'm on TikTok and everyone's talking about Love Island USA. So I'm like, okay, let me just like give it a go. And here I am now watching two Love Islands.

• 26:56Hannah Berner?

  You have so much on your plate right now. Are you okay?

• 27:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank God I'm going on vacation next week because I have so much TV. Being the anchors in which I am beholden to my bed right now because I have two Love Islands.

• 27:12Hannah Berner?

  Also, you can't just watch the shows. You have to get opinions. Like you have.

• 27:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I have to immerse myself in the culture.

• 27:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 27:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually would like to take back my stance that I was annoyed that they were on at the same time. I actually think it has been so interesting to watch Love Island UK around the same ages. Maybe some are a little younger, some a little older and Love Island USA at the same time. Again, same ages.

• 27:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I want to be gentle. I'm trying to be gentle. I'm trying. I'm finding it. I'm finding it.

• 27:48Hannah Berner?

  Gentle. That's what I tell Lois when she goes to pet a cat and I'm like gentle, gentle Lois, gentle.

• 27:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Gen Z, because here's the thing, Love Island, USA, this is now the first batch, really, of, they're all Gen Z. Every single one of them is Gen Z. I think the oldest one is 29 and that's like an older Gen Z. But like the girls that are early twenties, they're there. During COVID, these poor kids were in high school. So they're not having a traditional experience.

• 28:22Hannah Berner?

  Do they mention that on the show?

• 28:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, no, not really. I don't think. Well, people were posting things of them from high school and someone was like, this is COVID. Like during COVID.

• 28:35Hannah Berner?

  Cause my cousin who had COVID during high school.

• 28:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:39Hannah Berner?

  She fully is like self-aware and she's like, our being naughty was just like going outside, like.

• 28:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:45Hannah Berner?

  You guys were like experiencing things.

• 28:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I think there's multiple, multiple factors happening. I think there's like the self-aware of people that are like, we didn't experience sneaking out, getting caught drinking, going to a field. They had.

• 29:02Hannah Berner?

  Meeting new people.

• 29:03Paige DeSorbo?

  They had ring cameras, their parents were tracking them. It was a totally different experience. Also add in COVID. But the USA version, like the one girl used the term lustful the other night. And I, since this is a religious podcast, because we've talked about religion like the past too. I was like, what 22-year-old girl is being like, I'm not.

• 29:28Hannah Berner?

  Is she a Mormon wife?

• 29:30Paige DeSorbo?

  She goes, I'm not lustful. And it's like, babe, you're on Love Island. All we want you to do is lust over everyone. They, every single couple is the same from the day they got in there, which is unheard of in the Love Island world. They're about to go to Casa Amor and it's like, we're like, are you guys even gonna switch it up?

• 29:52Hannah Berner?

  Well, I know that one girl came in, she's so pretty.

• 29:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Soul.

• 29:56Hannah Berner?

  And then, soul. And then she just got kicked off and she was like, it's okay. I've been to 10 schools and like, I'm used to people not accepting me.

• 30:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the other part. Love Island is about watching them form connections and so you're interrupting me in the middle of my dissertation.

• 30:15Hannah Berner?

  No, I'm laughing that like you are the

• 30:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm passionate.

• 30:18Hannah Berner?

  Mouthpiece of Love Island.

• 30:20Paige DeSorbo?

  So passionate. I was like an OG 2015 watcher. I'm passionate. And UK is very like currently their season is sticking to the original model. Like it shows more conversations. It shows people falling like for each other. And here's the other thing. They're all very honest in the UK. Like they're saying to each other, these are my top three. Like this is who I'm going after. And the girl who's coupled with that person could be sitting right there, but they're all very open and honest. USA, the girls are all feel like they're faking it like with each other and their partners.

• 30:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh, interesting.

• 31:00Paige DeSorbo?

  The next thing I would like to say, there's two men, there's two men on Love Island.

• 31:04Hannah Berner?

  I knew you were about to speak about a man by your face.

• 31:07Paige DeSorbo?

  There's two men on Love Island, USA. And look, if they said this season is for the bisexuals, I'd be like, hell, yeah, let's see some, let's see some switch ups with the girls and the guys. But what's happening currently right now is there's two gay men on the show.

• 31:23Hannah Berner?

  Was that the ones checking out each other's wieners? Sorry, I've never said wiener before in my life.

• 31:28Paige DeSorbo?

  He said, and let me quote this, girth check, opens his pants, guy's guy looks in, does like a good facial expression. Cut to next scene, the guy says, would you think about what you saw? Other guy responds, long. Other guy goes, I wasn't even like fully erect. I was at a semi. I go, what? What's happening here? I go, are we like, are you guys trying to make us feel stupid? These guys be what you want, be together though, but like, don't come and trick us.

• 32:02Hannah Berner?

  Bisexual Love Island where you don't know who's That would be amazing.

• 32:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I would love it.

• 32:07Hannah Berner?

  That would, why is that not a thing? Wait, so are you saying you like the UK better? Show.

• 32:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but I've always liked UK better.

• 32:17Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes it's bad luck with a group.

• 32:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally. This year's casting was was interesting.

• 32:23Hannah Berner?

  Because sometimes like a group mentality forms where like someone is being a little like, this is how I feel and then everyone's like, oh, I guess we have to do that. Where if one person, that's like what they say with stand up comedy. If there's one like really good laugher, everyone else feels like they can laugh. So if you have someone in the group that's holding people back, that could be a bad, a bad thing. Um, but I love the honesty of the UK.

• 32:47Paige DeSorbo?

  The UK is so honest and they're having like conversa- like they just show you more of their conversation. So you can feel when people are like falling for someone else or whatever. USA is also, it's almost like they're very aware of how you win the show and who becomes an influencer, which of course they all want to be influencers.

• 33:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 33:07Paige DeSorbo?

  But I think that's why they're all sticking with their original partner. And it's like, okay, but that's not the point. Like.

• 33:13Hannah Berner?

  Oh, because they want people to like stand their relationship.

• 33:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but they all did it. So it's like, we, we know that you all don't like each other. There's just no way.

• 33:23Hannah Berner?

  Then you could be a villain if you say like, I'm not into this anymore and then people are mad at you.

• 33:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It's also like, that's what the game is.

• 33:30Hannah Berner?

  Are they having sex in the villa?

• 33:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Some of them are, yeah.

• 33:33Hannah Berner?

  What's also funny about people dating in their early twenties, like Love Island would be so different with people in their thirties. Because first of all, like you know exactly what you want. Like you talk to a guy for three seconds and be like, I'm so sorry. I don't want to waste your time here. I can't do this. I've done this actually already and it wasted three years of my life. I can't do this with you. And you're not going to change and you're already thirty four. So like, we already see what we have to see. And then it's like, with the, with your twenties, no one knows who they are. So how do you know what you want when you don't even know? Like, well, they don't know what they want.

• 34:04Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why I would love if this season was just like fully bisexual. Because I'm like, they're, they're pointing it right in our face. There's no way the editors don't know that we're thinking that they're picking these like clips to show on the show. And it's like, wait, they should just be a couple. I love that for them though. Like if there's anyone that loves a guy that loves another guy, it's me, honey. You can tell me.

• 34:29Hannah Berner?

  It's Pride Month.

• 34:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Hello?

• 34:32Hannah Berner?

  Literally the best month of the month.

• 34:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, so I've been deep in like two different versions of Love Island. It's so intense. And then my brother made me start this show with him, so I watched four episodes this weekend.

• 34:44Hannah Berner?

  Can I guess?

• 34:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:46Hannah Berner?

  Widows Bay?

• 34:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but on Apple TV.

• 34:50Hannah Berner?

  No idea.

• 34:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Cape.

• 34:52Hannah Berner?

  Cape Town.

• 34:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Cape Fear.

• 34:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I do have to say, Apple TV doesn't put out a lot.

• 34:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Their quality, not quantity, honey.

• 35:01Hannah Berner?

  Top notch.

• 35:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm watching this show and it is one of those shows where you're like, oh yeah, these are good actors. Like, the acting in it is so, and I'm not one that like loves a thriller. It's not really my vibe. But, um, Martin Scorsese is like the director. And the main guy is, I always forget his name, but he's married to Penelope Cruz. What the heck is his name?

• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Javier Bardem?

• 35:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 35:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's my friend.

• 35:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Is it?

• 35:36Hannah Berner?

  I interviewed him once.

• 35:41Hannah Berner?

  Me and Javier are going back.

• 35:43Paige DeSorbo?

  People don't talk about them enough as a couple. Like, when you know when people are like, oh my god, my celebrity couple, if they break up, I'll die. Like, no one mentions them. It should be them.

• 35:52Hannah Berner?

  Well, they're like so good looking, but it's an example of if you wanna stay out of the spotlight, you can.

• 35:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I don't think they live in America.

• 36:00Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 36:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, think about this, the odds of both of them becoming as famous as they are and like getting together and they both like speak the same language. It's just like very, I think their story is very beautiful and no one ever talks about it. And they have kids. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen their kids.

• 36:19Hannah Berner?

  I love them.

• 36:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I think they have a boy and a girl. I love them. So anyway, I'm watching that show and it's really scary and weird, but I like it.

• 36:28Hannah Berner?

  I watched The Gilded Age, the first couple of episodes with my mom. Well, my mom was making me do all these things that I don't normally do. Um, the outfits are so chic.

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

  They were just filming in Albany, New York, honey.

• 36:45Hannah Berner?

  Oh, people don't talk about back then, like if you were rich, you had a ballroom. How country is that?

• 36:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You had a ballroom and you were like, had to throw a party at least once a year.

• 36:55Hannah Berner?

  And they were obsessed with charities. Like, having charity parties. And basically how all the New Yorkers who were like old money New Yorkers didn't like in eighteen ninety when the new money New Yorkers came in, they were like, you're a new money bitch.

• 37:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Or how about the, how they talk about like downtown, they're like, no. No, come downtown, that'd be insane. And it's just like the, it's the best show ever. That's another show where the acting is phenomenal.

• 37:26Hannah Berner?

  Carrie Coon, is that her name? I fucking love her. And the older lady whose sister's Cynthia Nixon cracks me up. She hasn't smiled once.

• 37:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love Carrie Coon as a brunette.

• 37:37Hannah Berner?

  Obsessed with her as a brunette. Also, name drop. I went to high school with Louisa Jacobson. And Louisa and I were in a play together and her mom is Meryl Streep and Meryl Streep watched me in a play. Did, did anything come of it? No. Was it possibly the worst day of her life? It could have been. But Meryl Streep was watching me act back in the day.

• 37:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine Meryl Streep having to sit down and watch your performance of anything. Like, I would be... I'm like, no, I can't do it in front of Meryl. Imagine Meryl Streep was like, let me come to Giggly Squad Live. I'd cancel the whole tour.

• 38:12Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I'd be like, Meryl Streep, can you just turn your head right now? I can't take this. I can't focus right now.

• 38:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You actually can't come to Giggly Squad.

• 38:18Hannah Berner?

  No, Louisa was on the tennis team with me. And, yeah, just so funny, like, how you never forget a face. Like, she actually looks the same as she did in high school. And, um, that's my claim to fame. That was my claim to fame and that when I was, when I went to Poly Prep for two years and that was where there were a lot of like richer families that were there. And I was on my little tennis scholarship and that's when a girl lost her Chanel. And I asked the teacher who Chanel was.

• 38:47Hannah Berner?

  I said Chanel's lost. Can someone find Chanel?

• 38:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god. They were like, who's this alien that just transferred?

• 38:53Hannah Berner?

  Who's sending their fucking thirteen year old with Chanel earrings to school?

• 38:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, they could be vintage. Like, they could be...

• 39:02Hannah Berner?

  But that's so New York.

• 39:04Paige DeSorbo?

  That's very New York City. Yeah.

• 39:06Hannah Berner?

  Also, I don't understand time periods. Like, I'm like, anything before 2000, I'm like, that was the 1800s.

• 39:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I love a period piece, though. You know I love a period piece.

• 39:16Hannah Berner?

  But like, 1890, I didn't realize the colors these women would wear. Cause I guess all the photos, did they have photos, were like, black and white? So like, I didn't realize they were wearing like vibrant colors all the time.

• 39:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah. I guess I've never thought of that.

• 39:31Hannah Berner?

  She's in like some purple ass dress. I'm like, I didn't know they had purple in 1890?

• 39:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, you thought they were all just wearing black?

• 39:37Hannah Berner?

  I thought everything was black and white. I'm just kidding.

• 39:42Hannah Berner?

  But I didn't, I didn't, I thought it would be like light colors, like a light pink or like a light, light blue. These bitches were wearing orange.

• 39:48Paige DeSorbo?

  They were also wearing like, like they were getting dressed in the morning. Like, they had to corset up, they had to like, do a skirt, do a dress over. Yeah, then you had to get your hair done, like...

• 40:02Hannah Berner?

  I would have hated it.

• 40:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you kidding? The, my dream-

• 40:04Hannah Berner?

  I would have been like, I'm out.

• 40:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, my dream is to have a ladies maid. Like, someone who-

• 40:11Hannah Berner?

  What's a ladies maid?

• 40:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you fucking kidding me? You know I love a period piece, though. Like, I've done so, I know so many ladies maids, like, characters.

• 40:21Hannah Berner?

  Are this, is that like, she just goes around with you to make sure everything's okay?

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she's like, literally vibes with you. And she, it's basically like your assistant, and it's just like your friend, and she comes in, she helps you get dressed, and she helps you get undressed, and you gossip with her. She helps you do your hair, she like, helps you find the latest fashion. And if you're not married, she like, chaperones you. So she, cause like, get into mischief with you. And I just feel like, in a past life, I either was a ladies maid, or I had a ladies maid.

• 40:48Hannah Berner?

  Had a ladies maid.

• 40:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause I feel very connected to the ladies maid situation.

• 40:53Hannah Berner?

  I feel very connected to a, a DL jester.

• 40:59Hannah Berner?

  No, but corsets were like unsafe.

• 41:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, you know what's also crazy about like watching Gilded Age is that's Anderson Cooper's family. Like people don't, people don't, people don't enough. Talk about it. Like that's literally, he is the descendant of the Vanderbilts and I'm pretty sure that's.

• 41:18Hannah Berner?

  Crazy.

• 41:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Could you imagine, could you imagine being able to like, remember when you were obsessed with that Mormon website for a minute?

• 41:30Paige DeSorbo?

  What was that Mormon website you like literally went on and on about?

• 41:33Hannah Berner?

  Family, familysearch.org and everyone got like a virus from it.

• 41:38Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's social security numbers have been stolen, but we learned a lot.

• 41:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine being able to just like Google your family's history like so easily like him, like.

• 41:49Hannah Berner?

  Well, the Gilded Age is cool because it's all actual people, right? Like the Astors.

• 41:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, the Astors were real people. The Russells are based on, I think, the Vanderbilts. They, the Russells aren't a real family, I don't think, but the Astors are real.

• 42:04Hannah Berner?

  It's also so funny, like she gets this like corner mansion and they're all like, who'd you get to as your architect? And she's like, some guy from France. And I'm like, rich people are always the same. Like that's the same conversations with rich people. They're like, oh, who did your home decor?

• 42:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:18Hannah Berner?

  Who did your, who did your gardening? Also, they had, they had horses.

• 42:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:25Hannah Berner?

  And they sent cunty little letters to each other, like it seems like roommates, like.

• 42:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, they would have a footman. A footman would like bring your letters to different, my ears are ringing.

• 42:37Hannah Berner?

  And the doctor gigglers would say, get that checked.

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. And some bitch better shut up about me.

• 42:45Hannah Berner?

  See, I always assume it's an ex-boyfriend, not a girl.

• 42:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know. None of my ex-boyfriends like can form sentences, so.

• 42:50Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what's so annoying about my ex-boyfriends? A crazy high percentage of them, and I'm not trying to brag, it's more like cuz they're, I don't know what type of guys they are, do not have social media or like any online presence. Like, the last thing they have is like their high school sport they played. And every now and then I try to check up on some of them and I'm like, like ghosts, like literal ghosts. But it means they're straight, I think.

• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  We're so same, same, but different cuz like I also haven't seen any of my ex-boyfriend's social media in years, but that's because I'm fully blocked. So like, I don't know if they have social media or not. I have not taken a gander. I have not even looked. Also, I feel like you get to a point where like, it's even past the point of icked out by that person. You literally forget that they exist. So like, if you see something, you're like, oh my god, good for you that you're still kicking.

• 43:50Hannah Berner?

  Completely different man than I knew.

• 43:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually don't even know who that person is and like.

• 43:56Hannah Berner?

  The one thing if you really wanna find something though on an ex, find his mom's Facebook and you'll find a really bad photo of him at Thanksgiving. Like, that's, that's, that's the tea.

• 44:07Paige DeSorbo?

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• 45:31Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:16Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:40Hannah Berner?

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• 47:34Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:13Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:46Hannah Berner?

  Not to be annoying, but I have to bring up my grandpa.

• 48:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, how did I know you were just about to do that? You get a certain look in your eye?

• 48:54Hannah Berner?

  I go, and now it's the segment of the week, things I want to say about my grandpa. No.

• 49:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like your grandpa's in heaven right now being like, shut up. Let me rest in peace.

• 49:08Hannah Berner?

  Get over it. I said I loved you like a couple of times.

• 49:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Stop summoning me.

• 49:14Hannah Berner?

  No, so my mom and I are on Shelter Island. Shelter Island's triggering for me because my grandpa's house is like across the street from my parents' house. So I have to walk past his house.

• 49:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that is sad.

• 49:26Hannah Berner?

  So I was talking to my mom, basically like, we were walking, doing our mental health walk.

• 49:30Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys are doing a Ouija board.

• 49:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm picturing Lenore doing a Ouija board. She'd be so teacher about it. She'd actually be great to...

• 49:46Hannah Berner?

  No, she'd be like, "A, B, C, D."

• 49:54Hannah Berner?

  So we're walking and we're talking about Grandpa Jerry and a car speeds by us. Now, Grandpa Jerry famously drove a little too long in his life.

• 50:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Hated speeding?

• 50:11Hannah Berner?

  He had a car too. He was 92 and he was, he was driving crazy on these roads. So like you'd see a crazy, you'd be like, "There's Grandpa Jerry." And he had a blue Mazda. That was like a very unique car that no one had. As we're talking about Grandpa Jerry, a car starts speeding by and it's a blue Mazda. And it was to the point that I wasn't like, "Oh, that looks like his car." It felt like I was in that moment watching my grandpa drive past me.

• 50:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god!

• 50:39Hannah Berner?

  And both my mom and I are like, "That's grandpa's car." And this is a small island. There's like seven people on this island.

• 50:45Paige DeSorbo?

  What did you do with his car? Like, where is his car?

• 50:49Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I have no idea. But like, it wasn't like given to s- I actually have no idea. I should check that.

• 50:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, does someone on Shelter Island have his car?

• 50:57Hannah Berner?

  No, I don't think so. But like, it was crazy. And then-

• 51:02Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so interesting.

• 51:03Hannah Berner?

  And then we like, we're starting the race and someone on the mic is like saying people's names and they just say Grandpa Jerry.

• 51:12Hannah Berner?

  And like, really, it was like, "Stephanie Pierce, Leila Thompson, Grandpa Jerry." Like, it was really weird.

• 51:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did you just name real people?

• 51:22Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 51:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 51:23Hannah Berner?

  But I did come up with those names.

• 51:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I know a certain person.

• 51:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that's kind of crazy. And like, it is, it was Father's Day weekend?

• 51:35Hannah Berner?

  It was Father's Day. And then my dad said he went to go shopping and there was a guy who looked just like grandpa that needed his help. And I was like, I think like grandpa just partied with us this weekend.

• 51:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 51:46Hannah Berner?

  And grandpa loves when I play golf.

• 51:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow. I have an astrology reading on Thursday.

• 51:53Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, I'm so excited.

• 51:55Paige DeSorbo?

  So excited. I should have given him your birthday.

• 51:58Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna say I'm selfishly excited because I always like what they tell you about your best friend, your business partnerships.

• 52:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Obviously.

• 52:05Hannah Berner?

  Like, how is the vibe? I'll give you all my info. Oh, I think I like, I think I figured out Dez's...

• 52:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Phone password?

• 52:15Hannah Berner?

  Phone number?

• 52:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I figured out who Dez is.

• 52:20Hannah Berner?

  Wait, wait, wait. Do you know of a fucking husband named Dez? Name is Dez. His real name is Desmond?

• 52:26Paige DeSorbo?

  What is Dez's middle name? Desmond what?

• 52:28Hannah Berner?

  Ryan.

• 52:29Paige DeSorbo?

  So Irish.

• 52:30Hannah Berner?

  I got nervous. I got nervous that I was not gonna know. He's so, so Irish. But, um, oh yeah, I was always like, oh, Butter. Butter.

• 52:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, what an OG Giggly Squad crew neck. Wait.

• 52:43Hannah Berner?

  Should we make this again?

• 52:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Where is that crew neck?

• 52:47Hannah Berner?

  Butter, say hi to the Gigglers.

• 52:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we should remake that because I don't know where mine is.

• 52:51Hannah Berner?

  So I told Dez I wanna read his chart and he told me he doesn't know when he was born. And I'm like, I like can't go to the archives of like 1872, I'm not gonna find it.

• 53:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Where's his birth certificate?

• 53:03Hannah Berner?

  Who knows? But I can't ask his mom. Anyway, so I, I waited a long time and out of nowhere, I was like, do you know what time you were born? And he told me. So he was holding back on me because he didn't want me to read it as.

• 53:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, so he did know.

• 53:19Hannah Berner?

  So he did know. So I can't trust anyone around me. Now I'm forgetting. I think it was like 1:50 a.m.

• 53:25Paige DeSorbo?

  What time were you born?

• 53:26Hannah Berner?

  12:00 p.m.

• 53:28Paige DeSorbo?

  In the afternoon?

• 53:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 53:30Paige DeSorbo?

  He and I was running at like 1.

• 53:32Hannah Berner?

  We, I was born at the same time.

• 53:34Paige DeSorbo?

  We're like, we're actually gonna sleep in quick.

• 53:38Hannah Berner?

  We ride at, not dawn.

• 53:40Paige DeSorbo?

  We're like, um, why don't you have breakfast and then we'll rendezvous and see what's going on?

• 53:46Hannah Berner?

  Wait, when I was watching Mormon Housewives, they were like talking about being pregnant together and I literally got emotional thinking about us.

• 53:54Hannah Berner?

  Uh, one day we might be pregnant together.

• 53:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you know what I think about in terms of that, that stresses me out is because like at any given point ever, because you're married and you're an adult woman. You could call me at any time and be like, hey, I'm pregnant. And then, not to make it about me, I'll have to scramble. Like I'll have to go get my eggs. Yeah. I'm gonna have to see if they're okay.

• 54:22Hannah Berner?

  You, you call, you go, it's time, time to defrost.

• 54:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I'll literally just, I'll have to do it.

• 54:28Hannah Berner?

  You're basically saying like, you're not gonna let me do it alone if I do it. Like you'll speed up the process. Like if next week I was like, I think I may be pregnant, you'd be like, okay.

• 54:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd be like, okay, give me a month. Let me get my affairs in order because I can't, I can't just. I'm like, hold on, I'm on my period right now. Give me one week and I'm. Wait, how sick is that? Imagine if you called me and were like, I'm pregnant and I'm like, okay, coming. Like, okay, I will too. Okay, I'm coming.

• 54:57Hannah Berner?

  In friend groups, I think like someone gets pregnant and then makes someone else want to get pregnant and it kind of like can go through a friend group a little bit.

• 55:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Anywho, anywho, Hannah's not pregnant. Her grandpa is still dead.

• 55:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And Lenore's a personal trainer. So that's what happened this weekend.

• 55:18Hannah Berner?

  Um, okay. Now just to look forward, when are you going to Italy? Where are we at with the outfits? I'm stressed out. Like, do you need my help?

• 55:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so this week I'm like, I'm slowing work down. Okay. I'm just doing like meetings and Zooms. I'm not like getting ready and going anywhere. Yeah, I'm not performing anywhere. I'm just doing like my regular stuff and I'm also doing my maintenance stuff. So like I'm getting my nails and toes done this week. I had a little trim on my hair last week.

• 55:51Hannah Berner?

  Your pony looks really cute.

• 55:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you. My hair's so greasy. I haven't washed it. I'm getting my lymphatic drainage massage.

• 56:00Hannah Berner?

  Who are you trying to look hot for?

• 56:02Paige DeSorbo?

  This is just like my pre vacations. This is my pre vacation stuff. I wash all my spray tan off because I like to go no spray tan. So I can get a good base. And my outfits, I have been like ordering stuff, but I have not looked at everything as a whole. And so on Friday and Saturday will be like my Picasso days where I'm like, what about this with this? And let's take a picture in this and see if these shoes work.

• 56:34Hannah Berner?

  Kim is so tired already. I could tell. Kim is like, she's exhausted.

• 56:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, Kim also like Kim packs for Kim and then Kim packs for my dad. And then sometimes my 38 year old brother will say, hey,

• 56:52Paige DeSorbo?

  what should I bring? And she'll say, oh, don't worry about it. I'll do it. And so that's like, kind of what I'm trying to avoid as a wife and mother. I like, that is like one of my top things that like, I'm not packing for anyone.

• 57:08Hannah Berner?

  Your brother's smart. I've done that before with the, can you just help me start?

• 57:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, no.

• 57:12Hannah Berner?

  And next thing you know, you're like, thanks.

• 57:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever packed for Dez? Yeah.

• 57:18Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, why did I ask you that?

• 57:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that was like offensive. It's like, do I know you?

• 57:23Hannah Berner?

  I remember like Dez's stuff was on the floor and I was like,

• 57:26Paige DeSorbo?

  ew, pick that up.

• 57:27Hannah Berner?

  I'll pick it up and put it away, but like, I'm telling him that's what I did.

• 57:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm trying to weaponize my incompetence.

• 57:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like if he thinks he could leave stuff on the floor and I'm just gonna pick it up after him, that's, that's not how we play this game. But then again, I do occasionally, I'm like, your stuff is on the floor and he's like, so is yours. And I'm like, okay, touche. Who can play at that game? I'm excited to see, cause this is a, a whole new summer for you. What the little themes are gonna be like, is there gonna be chrome? Is there gonna be butter yellows? Is there gonna be, what kind of sunglasses? I'm just itching to know.

• 58:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I don't know. Because last, like every year before, I always have one outfit in my head that I'm like, I'm so excited to wear that on vacation and I don't have one of those yet.

• 58:15Hannah Berner?

  Do you feel pressure like you have to be last year?

• 58:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I always feel pressure every day.

• 58:20Hannah Berner?

  Hey, hey, listen.

• 58:23Hannah Berner?

  Don't put it on yourself.

• 58:24Paige DeSorbo?

  There might be a whole.

• 58:25Hannah Berner?

  Don't put it on yourself.

• 58:26Paige DeSorbo?

  This is the longest we're going, we've ever gone for. We're going for two full weeks. So there might be a whole week that I don't even appear online.

• 58:37Hannah Berner?

  Which I think would be really nice.

• 58:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Is really good, but I'm not even gonna post it real time. I'm gonna re- I really am gonna try and take one whole week.

• 58:47Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 58:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Of nothing on my phone.

• 58:49Hannah Berner?

  Gorgeous.

• 58:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And me and my mom looked at each other this weekend and we were like, we really, we need to connect on this trip. And she's looked at me and she goes, we're gonna hold hands a lot and talk.

• 59:00Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 59:01Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like.

• 59:01Hannah Berner?

  I, I wish my mom would do that. Instead, she tricks me.

• 59:07Hannah Berner?

  My mom was like, you know, it'd be fun giving you a fucking hernia. She was so, at one point she was like, are you okay? And I'm like, no. She's like, what's hurting? I'm like, literally everything. And she's like, are you out of breath? I'm like, yeah, plus my legs, plus my arm, plus my lower back. Oh, Lenore. But no, holding hands with your mom is so cute.

• 59:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, it's so sweet. She's the best.

• 59:30Hannah Berner?

  So just so the gigglers know, the next two weeks, the episodes are gonna be a little chaotic because Paige is gonna be in a different time zone in Italy. And it's gonna be fun. Like, it's gonna be crazy. We're gonna feel like we're a Euro summer together.

• 59:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Was it last year that we were on a Zoom and I was in Italy and I fell asleep? Was that a whole, that was a whole year ago. Wait, we've never even told the story. I'm, we're on a Zoom with Amy Poehler and I'm in Italy. And we were like doing something and you texted me and you go, you're literally falling asleep. And I'm like, it's, I'm so jet lagged. I don't, I can't even keep my one eye open.

• 1:00:06Hannah Berner?

  It was like two or three AM though, at your time or something. Like, it was like, we had a really important meeting.

• 1:00:13Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, of course I can do it. I'm just like.

• 1:00:15Hannah Berner?

  And you know, you had too, a little too much pasta that day and your body was like, let me.

• 1:00:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, no, I'm awake. I'm listening, actually. That was the scariest moment of my, I'm like, I'm falling asleep and Amy Poehler? I'm like.

• 1:00:29Hannah Berner?

  I was like, could you do this to me right now? Question mark.

• 1:00:34Hannah Berner?

  No, all I do is screenshot your face during Zooms. It's my favorite thing to do. Cause I'm like, you can see yourself, like you can see the face you're making and you're still doing it. That's cra- and I know you're staring at yourself. That's the funniest part of it. That's the funniest part.

• 1:00:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Who's to judge me?

• 1:00:51Hannah Berner?

  Me. Me.

• 1:00:55Hannah Berner?

  The whole time I'm staring at you like, oh, oh, and she's, yep, she's bringing out her micro current device.

• 1:01:02Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, oh, big yawn, big yawn.

• 1:01:09Hannah Berner?

  Like when your pet yawns, I'm like, are you big yawn?

• 1:01:13Paige DeSorbo?

  She just woke up from a nap, but look how pretty she is. Literally me getting on a Zoom is you talking to Butter. That's like how you speak to me. Like no, no sudden movements. She just woke up.

• 1:01:26Hannah Berner?

  Also last Zoom, I fully got out of the shower and went on the Zoom. Like I was a wet, full wet wrap. And everyone looks at you weird and I'm like, sorry for being hygienic.

• 1:01:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I looked at you jealous. I was so jealous. Well, if it's after five o'clock, I could be anywhere.

• 1:01:39Hannah Berner?

  It was, it was seven.

• 1:01:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I could be anywhere doing anything.

• 1:01:43Hannah Berner?

  Oh God. Um, Gigglers, we love you so, so, so much. Let's talk to you soon and have an amazing week.

• 1:01:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Bye.

• 1:01:58Hannah Berner?

  Hey, it's Hannah and Paige. Thank you so much for tuning into Giggly Squad every week.

• 1:02:02Paige DeSorbo?

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