243. Kyle Forgeard: On Mental Resilience, 100-Mile Endurance and Health Transformation

How does completing a 100-mile ultramarathon reshape your approach to building multi-million dollar entertainment ventures and expanding distribution networks for a top-five hard seltzer brand? Kyle Forgeard shares the unexpected business lessons learned from running 101.7 miles, including why structured training plans mirror successful product launches and how eliminating people who don’t serve your goals creates space for exponential growth. Kyle and I discuss why surrounding yourself with the right team determines whether audacious goals succeed or fail, and how public accountability through social media creates pressure that forces follow-through on ambitious deadlines. CLICK HERE TO BECOME GARYS VIP!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Kyle Forgeard YouTube: https://bit.ly/4mvCvhe Instagram: https://bit.ly/4c8daX6 TikTok: https://bit.ly/4tMSutw Facebook: https://bit.ly/3Ol8xzS X.com: https://bit.ly/4tPfsAp LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4ek10M7 Thank you to our partners A-GAME: “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: http://bit.ly/4kek1ij AION: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD AIRES: "ULTIMATE20 " FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/4a3Duze BAJA GOLD: "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa BODYHEALTH: “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV CARAWAY: “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC COLD LIFE: THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp GENETIC METHYLATION TEST (UK ONLY): https://bit.ly/48QJJrk GENETIC TEST (USA ONLY): ⁠https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 GOPUFF: GET YOUR FAVORITE SNACK!: https://bit.ly/4obIFDC H2TABS: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg HEALF: 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S PEPTUAL: “TUH10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4mKxgcn RHO NUTRITION: “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 SNOOZE: LET’S GET TO SLEEP!: https://bit.ly/4pt1T6V WHOOP: JOIN & GET 1 FREE MONTH!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps 00:00 Intro of Show 01:26 Impact of Prioritizing Health 04:11 Kyle’s Health Transformation 07:38 100-Mile Race: Team-Building, Training, Experience 27:09 Reaching the Finish Line 28:35 Fund-Raising for Cancer Foundation 36:43 What’s Next for Kyle? 39:27 Training with Elite Athletes 47:31 Overcoming PTSD 49:05 Family and Business Goals 53:29 Kyle’s Non-Negotiable Fitness and Biohacking Modalities 56:52 Kyle’s Next Business Plans 1:01:54 What does it mean to you to be an Ultimate Human? Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not provide medical advice. It is not intended for diagnosing or treating any health condition. Always consult a licensed healthcare professional before making health or wellness decisions. Gary Brecka is the owner of Ultimate Human, LLC which operates The Ultimate Human podcast and promotes certain third-party products used by Gary Brecka in his personal health and wellness protocols and daily life and for which Ultimate Human LLC and / or Gary Brecka directly or indirectly holds an economic interest or receives compensation. Accordingly, statements made by Gary Brecka and others (including on The Ultimate Human podcast) may be considered promotional in nature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  After I do this 100 miles and I push my mind so far past its breaking point, what can I not do?

• 0:06Gary Brecka?

  I don't know that a lot of people ever really find that place in themselves. And it's so liberating to realize what you can actually do.

• 0:13Speaker 00

  And it's all mental, you know? If you train right, you're gonna finish, but you're just gonna be tested mentally in a way that you've never been tested before.

• 0:22Gary Brecka?

  I think 100 miles is such a big, bold, audacious goal. I mean, if you've never run a marathon and felt that post marathon pain, you might not know what it's like to be in the pain cave.

• 0:31Speaker 00

  Once you do push past that pain and I knew I made it and I saw all you guys, I heard the cheers, I never cried too, but I teared up and made everything worth it.

• 0:39Gary Brecka?

  How does your mind just not override your body and make you quit?

• 0:43Speaker 00

  I'll be honest, I never actually ever had a doubt I was gonna finish. But what I did realize very quickly was...

• 1:02Gary Brecka?

  Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brecka, where we go down the road of everything, anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today's guest is somebody that has been a friend for a very long time. His family are close to my family. He's a great friend of my son's and I think he is an inspiration to an entire generation of youth that they can actually do hard things, do epic hard things and create a community around doing that. So I really want to welcome to the podcast Kyle Forgeard.

• 1:37Speaker 00

  Thank you, Gary.

• 1:37Gary Brecka?

  Brother, this is so good to be back, dude. The last time we shot the podcast, Steiny was talking about how healthy cocaine was. I had a whole shelf full of seltzers in the back.

• 1:50Speaker 00

  He's probably still wondering that.

• 1:51Gary Brecka?

  He's probably still wondering.

• 1:52Speaker 00

  I think he's still in denial.

• 1:53Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, but life's a little different now, man.

• 1:56Speaker 00

  How long ago was that? That was a few years ago, maybe, right?

• 1:59Gary Brecka?

  Probably two years ago is kind of when I first moved into my place.

• 2:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03Gary Brecka?

  And, but, but the journey that I've been on with you and your team and your family and the journey that I've been on with, with my son, now to see all of this coming together in such an insane way. You know, you guys just completed a hundred mile race.

• 2:24Speaker 00

  I know. I mean, you started me off in my health and fitness journey, which I obviously can't thank you enough for. I know you got so many people in your celebrity network.

• 2:32Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 2:33Speaker 00

  The people, you know, the John Joneses, the Tom Brady's, whoever else. And just the fact that you took your time out to help me originally when you didn't have to too, it means a lot. And I've really come far on my fitness journey, which I feel has changed my life, made me happier, you know? More successful businessman, I think too. So I can't thank you enough for helping me back then.

• 2:53Gary Brecka?

  I think that's so true too. You know, I think back to when I was in my twenties, early thirties. The last thing I was thinking about was prioritizing my health, you know, it was just all about like the grind and that whole added to like sleep is for losers. I'll sleep when I die, you know, take the hill, work, work, work, just outwork your competition. But you don't realize what a superpower like sleep and health and just waking up and feeling clear and actually having the energy for the day does for every facet of your life.

• 3:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think for me too, I got really successful, obviously doing a lot of party content and stuff. That was our whole brand, right? Full send. It means, it means getting fucked up.

• 3:33Gary Brecka?

  You own one of the largest seltzer alcohol brands in the world.

• 3:35Speaker 00

  Exactly. We own, we own the number four Happy Dad Hard Seltzers officially, like the number three to four hard seltzer in convenience stores and grocery, depending on the state. And we're fully independent, which is huge too. So I think probably a lot of people deal with that too. It's like your business tugging on your personal life a little bit, right? And that's something that I've struggled with for like the last maybe five years is how do I find that balance between my business and, you know, being mentally happy, being mentally clear.

• 4:09Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 4:09Speaker 00

  And I think for me, I kind of just hit a wall where I'm just like, yeah, listen, I'm going to still be successful in business. I'm going to be successful at my work, but I'm not going to do that at the sacrifice of my mental health. Because I could be rich or successful.

• 4:26Speaker 00

  And if I don't have my mental health, if you don't have your mental health and you don't have your happiness, what do you have? So I started putting my mental health and my fitness and my health first. And I think that's only transcended my business.

• 4:42Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 4:42Speaker 00

  Success.

• 4:43Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, you know, but talk about that wall. When you say, I hit a wall, was it like, was it that moment that you realized, you know, I can't do this for the rest of my life? Because there's a theme that runs through people that sit in that chair on my podcast. And the most impactful, passionate, driven people that sit in that chair like yourself have solved some kind of problem in their life. And they're not necessarily the most qualified, like PhD, MD, you know, qualified researcher, but they're making a massive impact on humanity because they solved a big problem in their life. I've had soccer moms that, you know,

• 5:23Gary Brecka?

  had an autistic child and just, and just became this citizen scientist and really solved the problem for their kid. I've had people that had chronic Lyme disease and they, they, they just couldn't get help in the medical community and they became a citizen scientist. They, they turned that around and they're like, and so, and so for you, I feel like you're inspiring an entire generation because of that transition that you were able to make. And I wonder if you would talk about that. Like when you say hit a wall, was, what was kind of the tipping point?

• 5:52Speaker 00

  Um, I think for us, like I said, our brand was partying. So think of it being productive to party. That's, that's a slippery slope. Like for most people, it's like they go out and drink and it's like, shit, like I couldn't be doing that. For us, it's like a celebrity will invite us to come out and party and we're going to get a whole video out of it and it's going to get millions of views. So I don't want to sound like I'm complaining because I am grateful and it's a dream job. But, you know, when you're pushed to drink. Every day it was at some point, I think with age, it was mostly just with age. When you're 21, 22, you don't feel a hangover, but I'm 31 now.

• 6:30Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, you can actually be killed by a bullet.

• 6:32Speaker 00

  Yes, I feel like I got hit by a bus after drinking now. So when it came to 28, that's when I started to struggle with it. And yeah, I was just like, you know, those nights of drinking, staying up, staying up late to the no sleep. It's all the traveling, throw that all in. It was just, you know, it just wasn't making me happy anymore. And I think one day I kind of just woke up after a weekend of going a little too hard. And I was like, this is not sustainable.

• 6:58Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 6:59Speaker 00

  You know, and I was being productive. We're still getting content, but like I said, I was like, I gotta put my mental health first because I don't care how much money I make. I don't care how successful I am. If I don't have my mental health and I'm not happy, nothing else matters.

• 7:13Gary Brecka?

  You know, it's funny.

• 7:14Speaker 00

  So I pivoted in that direction. I did my transformation, which you helped me with.

• 7:18Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 7:19Speaker 00

  Made a complete 120 day transformation and I posted it on my Instagram.

• 7:23Gary Brecka?

  I remember that.

• 7:24Speaker 00

  And it got like 500,000 likes. And I was like, you know, wow, this is crazy. I didn't really expect that, you know? I thought people wanted me to just be this degenerate and stuff, but I started to notice, wow, first of all, most important, this makes me feel amazing. It changed my life, but also wow, I think I inspired a lot of people and people really want to see me be the best version of myself. So that was about three years ago, 2023, I think. And then as of then, you know, I've done high rocks races with Cole, your son.

• 7:58Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 7:58Speaker 00

  And we've, you know, we've done some marathons and stuff. So just doing more healthy stuff. And then, yeah, that leads us now to, we just did our 100 miles, which was crazy.

• 8:11Gary Brecka?

  That was so crazy. I was in the, I was in the, one of the chase cars, you know, first of all, hats off to Gabe, Matt, your entire team. Because, you know,

• 8:23Gary Brecka?

  Please don't take this the wrong way, but you know, being a father and having my son, you know, going to run this 100 mile race, um, you know, in the desert through the night, through the mountains, you know, from basically the border of California into Las Vegas, um, with the Nelk boys. I was like, you know, my first concern was-

• 8:42Speaker 00

  Is this the right thing to do?

• 8:44Gary Brecka?

  It's the right thing to do. I mean, I know you might inspire some people. I know this might be, you know, a goal you set for yourself, but you know, my concern is always for safety. And, um, when I parachuted into Vegas and, and, and sat through that first meeting, I was at, it was mind numbing, the amount of time your team spent on the logistics, you know, exactly what it was going to take to move six guys, 100 miles through the night, through the day, on the side of the road, on a busy highway, you know, with a caravan of people that have mostly never done this before. I was very, very impressed and number one, you guys were like, safety first. There was no compromise for safety. And as I sat

• 9:25Gary Brecka?

  back in those vans, um, you know, each, each one of the runners had their own van. And as I sat back in those vans and I listened to the chatter on the walkie talkie, dude, it was always about the runners. It was always about you guys' safety. There was so much going on in the back, you know, microwaving noodles, like making sure you had vests on. I mean-

• 9:45Speaker 00

  I think that started with, we got very lucky with Coach Matt.

• 9:49Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 9:50Speaker 00

  For sure. And like Gabe is obviously, he's the best assistant in the world, executive assistant. We gotta promote him to chief of staff. I think we gotta throw him the chief of staff title. So he's, he's always going to kill it, no matter what. That's not a question.

• 10:02Gary Brecka?

  I was very impressed.

• 10:03Speaker 00

  But obviously he didn't have a lot of experience with the running stuff. So yeah, Coach Matt Johnson, who's obviously ran across Texas twice.

• 10:10Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 10:10Speaker 00

  Um, me and Cole were looking for a coach and we found him. And I think you probably are good at this now, too. You probably had to fire some people and I just feel like one skill I've gained over the years of being screwed and having to fire people and just dealing with idiots is I'm a pretty good judge of character at this point. So-

• 10:30Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 10:30Speaker 00

  The second I talked to Coach Matt, um, I had like a 30 minute phone call with him and I was like- This guy's the real deal.

• 10:37Gary Brecka?

  This is our guy.

• 10:38Speaker 00

  He was not only knowledgeable with the training and he gave us our whole training block, but he understood the content side. He understood the safe. He understood everything.

• 10:47Gary Brecka?

  Dude, I was-

• 10:48Speaker 00

  360. So him and Gabe teamed up. And you know, Gabe was able to ask him any questions about the running side of stuff. And vice versa, Matt was able to ask Gabe about the logistics. And then, that's the thing, I have such a good team now.

• 11:01Gary Brecka?

  You really do, man.

• 11:01Speaker 00

  And you know, we have fun too, but we also, I don't really-

• 11:03Gary Brecka?

  Very impressive.

• 11:04Speaker 00

  I don't really tolerate bullshit too. And Gabe, neither does Gabe too, you know? If someone's fucking around, he's coming to me too.

• 11:10Gary Brecka?

  Dude, someone showed up banged up to that race that morning, man.

• 11:12Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 11:12Gary Brecka?

  Oh, yeah. To drive one of those big vans. They fired his ass on the spot.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have to. So, the importance of having a good team. And a team that you can trust too. That's the thing now is, as a leader, I just kind of, you know, I'll tell Gabe, right, this is what we're doing. I'll tell this guy, this is what we're doing. And I can really sit back now and trust that they're all gonna do their jobs to a T. And that's why I think we're able to execute all this content so successfully. It's because of the team, not just me.

• 11:39Gary Brecka?

  You know, I did a, I did a great podcast with Matt and I was really impressed with that guy's journey. You know, basically from, and I'm not saying anything that he hasn't said on the podcast, but basically from a trailer park. Um, he grew up in a trailer, very abusive father. Um, wa-watched his mother get her teeth knocked out by her father one day in a drunken rage. And, um, went into the military, into the National Guard. Uh, sort of collectively got his shit together. And then he found running, just as you were talking about, as a mental health, you know, antidote. And, um, and he just locked into that. And when he said when he started, he didn't even really know what he was doing, how therapeutic it would be. And he locked into that and just longer and longer distances. I think he's the only human being to cross Texas in both directions. He went north, south, and then he went east, west.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  Insane.

• 12:24Gary Brecka?

  It's not, it's not a small thing by any-

• 12:26Speaker 00

  900 miles in 19 days is crazy.

• 12:29Gary Brecka?

  That is insane.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  It's insane. He's a beast.

• 12:31Gary Brecka?

  And, um, uh, but again, you know, parachuting into that, uh, event and seeing how there's probably 30 people in that support group. Food, nutrition, aid stations, first aid. You know, you had medics, you had, you had the whole thing figured out and, and that side of the race went off without a hitch. But there was a moment during that race, um, because I think a hundred miles is such a big, bold, audacious goal. I mean, if you've never run a marathon and felt that post marathon pain, or even a half marathon and felt that pain cave, you might not know what it's like to be in, we, we call it the pain cave, where like every aspect of your mind is telling you not to take another step. Your brain even starts to mess with you a little bit.

• 13:15Gary Brecka?

  It's like, hey, you could sit down on that rock right there. Nobody's, nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna judge you for just stopping right now. And I saw you have some of those moments during the race. I wondered if you'd talk a little bit about the mental fortitude, because there was a moment at 32 miles where I realized that none of the runners, including my son, had taken one step further than that. So every step was a PR from 32 to 100.

• 13:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:41Gary Brecka?

  And I don't know that a lot of people ever really find that place in themselves. And it's, it's so liberating to realize what you can actually do. Now, I wonder if you'd talk about that.

• 13:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think that's why, and yeah, just the backstory, I've told you this too, but yeah, Cole, your son was the one that got me into the hundred. I was, um, I know Cole's always up to some crazy ass shit. His great, his great world race inspired me.

• 14:07Gary Brecka?

  Athletic shit.

• 14:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. His great world race inspired me. I don't know how he did that with, with such limited training. So that inspired me too. And, um, yeah, I was kind of in a place in my life too, where I felt myself drifting back a little bit into stuff I didn't want to be doing. And I was like, yo, I gotta lock in on something else. I was on a run, literally, and I just called Cole and I was like, hey, bro, like, what do you got going on this year? He told me he was doing the Burj Khalifa. I was like, that sounds terrible. I'm gonna throw up. I don't wanna throw up.

• 14:36Gary Brecka?

  Vertical miles, like 179 flights straight up.

• 14:39Speaker 00

  I don't wanna do a whole Burj Khalifa and spin around. He's like, I'm doing a hundred miles. And when I heard that, I was like. Hmm, that's interesting because also I'm always thinking from the content side of it too. It was like 100 miles, everybody knows what that is. If you're into fitness, if you're not into fitness, everyone can relate. They know how hard running is and running 100 miles. That sounds insane. It's easy, it's easy for everyone to digest. So I was like, I'm in. I committed on the spot. I told them.

• 15:08Gary Brecka?

  I remember you sent me a text message. I want to say it was August 13th ish.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:13Gary Brecka?

  And you sent me a text message and you just said, hey, just, just locked in with your son Cole, committed to a 100 mile race.

• 15:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:19Gary Brecka?

  Okay.

• 15:19Speaker 00

  But part of that was like, when I started looking into it too, I committed before I really looked into it. Then I start watching all the documentaries and I'm like, oh God, we are, we are in for the hardest thing by far we've ever done in our lives. But what I learned about it going into it was, yeah, this is going to be mentally, and it's all mental. You know, if you train right, you're going to finish. But you're just going to be tested mentally in a way that you've never been tested before. And I was even tested during the training, you know, I mean, the longest I'd ever run was just a marathon, 26 miles at like, you know, it took me four and a half hours. So that's not a good marathon really by any sense.

• 16:04Speaker 00

  But even from the training, you know, we started with 50 mile weeks, and then 60 mile weeks, and then 70 mile weeks, and then 80 mile weeks. And Coach Matt gave us such a structured plan that, yeah, even from the training, I learned so much about how important structure is and how important, you know, if you have a goal, you got your deadline and we had our deadline. And then, once you have a structured plan, I feel like you can really achieve anything in life. And that's what I learned from the training of this race one. And then, yeah, I was also like, after I do this 100 miles, and I push my mind so far past its breaking point, what can I not do? Like, it's almost like I'm proving to myself and to my mind that.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  It's, everything's in your mind. Like if you know how to control your mind and push past that pain and things you don't want to do.

• 16:56Gary Brecka?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  Everything in my life is easy now. If I have a new business project I want to do. I feel like I know how to organize it better with the structure I learned from Ray. Same thing. Goal, deadline, plan, get it on paper. Same thing as my training. And then, yeah, just, I think there was just so many benefits to it. Like I just learned so much about myself.

• 17:16Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  It was the best thing we ever decided to do.

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• 18:44Gary Brecka?

  weights three times a week, I'm gonna do co plunging sauna, and you know, it's easy to sort of fall back. But I mean, you're like, like you say, goal, deadline, plan.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:53Gary Brecka?

  There's not a lot of room to fuck around. Like I noticed like when Cole was in high school. Um, you know, he was playing high school football and high school football. If you got kids or you played high school football, you know what that's like. It's like they're at school at six o'clock in the morning before the bell rings every, every day. You got games every Friday, you got practices, you get practice through the summer. He was so busy and so exhausted. He did not have time to fuck around and I saw where like as he left eighth grade and you know, there were just this gap between some of his friends like, you know, he went one way. You know, they kind of went a different way. And, um, but it was the, it was the amount of time that he had to commit to just staying on that team.

• 19:34Gary Brecka?

  And I think, I think for you, you know, setting this big, bold, audacious goal, it's like your schedule is full now. And so you have time to be productive and you have time to exercise for this goal. There's not a lot of empty space in between.

• 19:49Speaker 00

  I think that's key too, cause I'm always into fitness. I feel like, like you say too, it's my drug of choice now as well. If I don't work out for three days, I'm feeling mentally slow. I'm feeling a little depressed. I need to get my body moving. I need to sweat, I need to get my heart rate up. I just, I'm addicted to it, which is a, which is a blessing, right? We're lucky, but I think with fitness too, if people are trying to get into it, I really think you can get lost when you just don't have a specific goal. And for me, yeah, what I like to do is I like to set a goal and I like to set a deadline. That could be anything. That could be running a 5K. It could be running a half marathon, a marathon. It could be, I want to get my bench to this by this date. But I think you set a goal and you set a deadline.

• 20:33Speaker 00

  And then what I like to do even is, and I have a bigger following, but even if you don't, post it on social media, even if you have 200 people that follow you. It puts that little sense of pressure on yourself and accountability. And I think that's the extra little piece that you know, if you put it out there, all your friends or your circle are going to be judging you. Yeah. If you don't, and put the date out there, put some pressure on yourself. That's what personally works for me. Cause I know I'm like, Shoot, I put it out there. If I don't do this, people are gonna think I'm not a person of my word.

• 21:05Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  So I like that little secret.

• 21:08Gary Brecka?

  That little extra pressure.

• 21:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:09Gary Brecka?

  You know, I do the same thing. You know, I think that when you, when you set a goal like that, if you just start talking about it, telling people about it, your mind also starts to believe that, right? Because, you know, you're, you, you've boxed yourself into a corner and now you have, now you have no choice.

• 21:26Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Cause you're always gonna be tempted to stray away from it, even during my training, right? Like, you know, you get invited to this, or I'm tired, or blah, blah, blah. But it's like, shoot, I set this goal. Like, you, I think having pressure on yourself is very important too.

• 21:42Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  I think it's a little cheat code.

• 21:44Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. And I think it helps you kind of reset your priorities every day. Like, is this serving my goal?

• 21:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's one thing I realized too, is you're not missing much. You know, the things that you, cause you got, I had to sacrifice a lot of stuff to do this training, because when you're running 100 miles a week, you look at your training block and you got 20 miles this day, 15 the next day, 15 the next day, 15 and then 30.

• 22:10Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  You gotta complete that run. And then the second after that run, you gotta start recovering. I had to go stretch for an hour. I had to sauna, I had to ice bath, I had to norm attack, and then I had to sleep.

• 22:21Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:22Speaker 00

  I had to fuel.

• 22:23Gary Brecka?

  And by the way, you're running a platform too, so.

• 22:24Speaker 00

  Exactly, too. And I had to work too. So there wasn't much time for other stuff. People would hit me up and be like, wanna do this, wanna do this? And now that I look back, I'm like, this was actually my first New Year's too, that I, I think I didn't drink since I was probably 16. And I was just, I had a sober New Year's. I literally didn't even stay up for the ball drop.

• 22:48Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  Because I had no choice. I had to run 20 miles on New Year's Day.

• 22:52Gary Brecka?

  Oh, wow.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause I guess we set January 21st as our day. So

• 22:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 22:56Speaker 00

  Christmas and New Year's was our busiest time of running.

• 22:59Gary Brecka?

  You mean like the most mile?

• 23:00Speaker 00

  Most miles.

• 23:01Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 23:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. So

• 23:02Gary Brecka?

  And, and

• 23:03Speaker 00

  Just dedicated it to a tea.

• 23:06Gary Brecka?

  And when you, when you cross that, um, that 32 miles and, and you were in that uncharted territory and realized there was so much more ahead, like what's going through your mind? Like, how, how does your mind just not override your body and make you quit?

• 23:23Speaker 00

  So my going into it, oh yeah, our longest run was 31 miles and I really trusted coach, I really trusted coach Matt and he told me, yo, you're gonna finish. He said like going into it, he's like, you're ready. He told all of us, you're ready, you're gonna finish. If you did my training, you're ready. Um, but obviously, you know, you taper off before the run. So the last two weeks, the most we were running a day was probably five miles. And then we didn't run five days before at all.

• 23:52Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 23:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I thought since our legs were so well rested, I was like, oh, we've already ran 31. I did that with Cole. I was like, so easy. We felt good. We were laughing at the end of the run.

• 24:03Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 24:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, we were. We ran a marathon here.

• 24:06Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  And we're just like, that was so easy. So we're like, yo, we're ready. I was like, we're not gonna feel, feel this till like mile 50.

• 24:13Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:13Speaker 00

  But weirdly, it hit a lot faster than I thought. It hit at mile 20. It hit at mile 20.

• 24:20Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:20Speaker 00

  And that's when I realized, I'll be honest, I never actually ever had a doubt I was gonna finish.

• 24:26Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 24:26Speaker 00

  Not one single doubt. I never had a doubt is because, I think it was because of the accountability. Like having my parents there, having our crew there, having you there.

• 24:36Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:36Speaker 00

  Having Drake jump in the live stream and then also having 50,000 people watching us live.

• 24:43Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  I'll be honest, I never had a doubt. But what I did realize very quickly was I underestimated this a little bit and this is going to be fucking tough as hell.

• 24:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I still, and it was tough as hell. And yeah, we kind of, the way we broke it down was. We started feeling it at mile 20 and then what we all did was we didn't think of the 100 anymore. We just thought of aid station by aid station by aid station. So there was an aid station and if you guys don't know what that is, it's where you stop and you eat. Cause we had to be eating, we ate over, I think 12,000 calories in that 25 hours. So you stop, you sit for five to 15 minutes and you, you fuel up.

• 25:25Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  So we just took aid station by aid station and we knew every 10 to 12 miles, there was going to be an aid station. And that's how we all kind of mentally battled it. We were like, all right, aid station, we're here. And it was nice to sit down.

• 25:42Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 25:42Speaker 00

  But getting up was.

• 25:43Gary Brecka?

  Oh, I know.

• 25:44Speaker 00

  It was horrible.

• 25:45Gary Brecka?

  Matt hustled you through those things. They were three to five minutes.

• 25:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:48Gary Brecka?

  I mean, I remember he was like, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Everybody up, everybody up, back to the front. And three o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning and, and you know, we were, we were laying cold down on the side of the road, wrapping him in a blanket, pulling his feet up.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  We were cold, we were shivering, yeah.

• 26:03Gary Brecka?

  Rub it, you know, rub his calves and his, and his thighs out just to kind of get the blood moving. But it seemed like I just started and then boom, you guys were back up and running. And I think he, he, he had a method to his madness. He's like, you, you gotta keep moving, man. You can't, if you stop for too long, even though your body wants to.

• 26:20Speaker 00

  Cause it was, yeah, getting up was so hard and then just walking it off felt horrible. And then you just gotta like push yourself to start moving and then your legs would kind of go numb a little bit. And then we'd kind of get a high.

• 26:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 26:34Speaker 00

  And we'd be like, yo, this feels good. And then it would drop off again. It was just like a roller coaster the whole time. It kind of started with like, feel bad after the aid station, feel really good, feel bad again, aid station. It was literally this. It was a cycle and we just had to mentally battle that the entire time. And then. We were feeling really good. I think mile 85, we're laughing, we're chuckling, we're even considering like skipping the last aid station. And then we got to mile 93 aid station. And from 93 to 98, it was five straight miles of complete incline, winding hills. I think we ended up

• 27:18Gary Brecka?

  It was

• 27:19Speaker 00

  parallel.

• 27:19Gary Brecka?

  Crazy.

• 27:20Speaker 00

  I was looking at a mountaintop and it was only like right here.

• 27:23Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  And it felt like there was no end to that. Like, imagine running 93 miles. 93, this makes me sick thinking about it.

• 27:31Gary Brecka?

  It makes me sick too, I was there.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  93 miles and then they're looking at us and there's like, there's five miles of hills. And it felt like it never ended. And I guess in ultra marathoning, you never run up a hill. So we're just walking. So we're taking 25 to 30 minute miles. So it ended up being just two hours of walking up a huge mountain after running 93 miles.

• 27:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Speaker 00

  And that was, that was a breaking point like I've never experienced. I kind of treated it like

• 28:01Gary Brecka?

  Some of the guys had tears. I mean, they broke down.

• 28:04Speaker 00

  I kind of treated it like I was, I was like, I hate to compare, but like, I'm sure people are tortured in the world, like army people. I was kind of treating it like that. I was like, yo, there's people that get tortured worse than this. I kind of got to just think of it like that where like, I'm literally getting tortured right now and I'm gonna survive. I gotta beat the pain. And yeah, it was, it was just shutting the brain off and being like, this is temporary. This is gonna be over. There's no option to quit.

• 28:31Gary Brecka?

  I know, I noticed your narrative changed a little bit. You were like, this fucking sucks.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  Sucks.

• 28:37Gary Brecka?

  Absolutely sucks. I'm in so much pain.

• 28:39Speaker 00

  So much pain. Cause I also knew

• 28:41Gary Brecka?

  You were so, you were so bit like bright before that.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  I know. Well, I took some ibuprofen.

• 28:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:46Speaker 00

  Motrin's ibuprofen.

• 28:47Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah. When you guys took the Motrin and the caffeine.

• 28:50Speaker 00

  We saved it.

• 28:51Gary Brecka?

  It looked like you guys were on a shroom drip or something. You were so happy and animated.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  So happy. But yeah, and then Getting to that finish line and seeing all you guys there. And I didn't have any visual of what the finish line looked like. I didn't even ask them what it was gonna look like because I trusted them. But for some reason, I didn't expect that many people to be there.

• 29:10Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 29:10Speaker 00

  So turning that, and of course, the final route was 101.7.

• 29:15Gary Brecka?

  I know.

• 29:16Speaker 00

  So they had this screw us with a 1.7 extra. So we're already dead. And then, yeah, when we turn that corner into like, once you do push past that pain, and I knew I made it, and I saw all you guys, I heard the cheers. I never cried too, but I teared up.

• 29:31Gary Brecka?

  Dude, you broke down.

• 29:32Speaker 00

  I teared up.

• 29:32Gary Brecka?

  All six of you did.

• 29:33Speaker 00

  I think it was because you knew the pain was over. And then just, I literally felt the energy of like, all you guys. Turning the corner, I felt it. And I was, I just cried. I was like, I don't know, it was such an amazing moment. I'll never, I'll never forget that moment. And it made me so happy. It made everything worth it. And seeing all the familiar faces, being around people that you like genuinely love too, at the, at the finish line was, it was such a great achievement. And I think it, yeah, I just learned so much from the entire, I learned a lot from the training.

• 30:07Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 30:07Speaker 00

  The training was, was a game changer. And take some time to heal. You just put me in the hydrogen bath and take some time to reset. But I think, like I said, having a goal, always having a goal that you're working towards is the way to really stay focused.

• 30:22Speaker 02

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• 31:05Gary Brecka?

  Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I totally agree with that. And you guys reviewed a bunch of charities and then finally selected a charity, ended up raising what?

• 31:16Speaker 00

  I think 330,000, something like that.

• 31:19Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, cuz Drake came to the table with 150,000.

• 31:22Speaker 00

  I donated 100,000.

• 31:23Gary Brecka?

  You donated 100,000. I think Dana White came to the table.

• 31:26Speaker 00

  I don't know if he did.

• 31:26Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, he did.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  We've got him next time.

• 31:28Gary Brecka?

  All right, get him next time. He said he did, but Dana, if you're watching.

• 31:32Speaker 00

  Dana's done a lot for us already.

• 31:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, Dana's done more for anyone in this world for my career too.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, me too.

• 31:37Gary Brecka?

  It's been amazing. But how did you select that charity? And like, what was the meaning behind that?

• 31:44Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, so I mean, I've lost my grandma on my dad's side to cancer. I lost my grandpa on my mom's side to cancer. And then I just lost my grandfather on my dad's side to cancer, who was like, it's hard to explain, but I don't know, I just had my two grandparents on my dad's side. They were just so close to me my entire life. Like, my parents couldn't afford, babysitting was expensive, obviously. My parents were middle class, but babysitting was expensive. And, you know, they came and moved in with us for a year when I was young and they took care of me. And then I played hockey growing up my whole life. And my gramps would come to every single one of my hockey games. It was his favorite thing to do, come to my hockey games. He'd give me $2 for every goal.

• 32:28Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 32:29Speaker 00

  And $1 for every assist. In Canada, it's called a toony and a loony. Like, is it a $2 coin, a $1 coin?

• 32:34Gary Brecka?

  Oh, really? Okay.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  I was pretty nasty at hockey, so I kind of emptied his bank account a little bit.

• 32:38Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, emptied the bank accounts on the toonies and loonies?

• 32:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, I made him go broke. But yeah, so we were just close my whole life. And my gramps was just a huge, and my nanny, but my gramps being, you know, a male, he was a huge role model for me. I just felt like he did everything perfect, you know? He worked hard. He saved up money. He married a lady he loved. He had my uncle, my dad, who my uncle's amazing, two great guys. And they were such good grandparents. So I always looked up to him my whole life. We had a special relationship I can't describe, so. He started, he entered into a hospice right during my peak week, actually. So the, the week that I've had to run a hundred miles, I was gonna be running with Cole here in Miami

• 33:21Speaker 00

  and all the guys and Matt was flying out and we had this whole peak week planned and my dad called me and said, hey, Gramps is kind of like, you know, he's in a hospice now. He, he doesn't have much time. So I had to fly up there, emergency. And I just ended up doing my whole peak week up, up in Canada where he lived, just to, you know, be around him and spend time with him and I, I think it made, I was really happy that I did that. And I told him I was doing, he was always into fitness too. He was super into like bodybuilding. Really? And like, he has all the gym magazines and stuff like that. He was always into lifting. So when I started getting, getting into it, that was another thing we bonded over. That's cool. So when I told him I was doing the hundred miles, he thought it was cool. He thought it was crazy. So he really wanted me to do it.

• 34:06Speaker 00

  So I kind of decided that was gonna be an extra why for me as to why I was doing this. And then, I mean, everyone knows it too. It just obviously got me thinking. And I was just like, cancer treatment and current cancer treatment is just pretty much bullshit, right? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I said it too, but like, I feel like scientists have admitted they've cloned a sheep. Yeah. I mean, that means they can clone a human. I'm, I can't even imagine what the top level of science has access to. And the fact that there's no common cure for cancer. Everyone knows it's a scam. It's, it's just a complete scam. They're profiting off people dying.

• 34:47Speaker 00

  So I wanted to do something for cancer, but I also knew there's so many cancer foundations and people raising money. And it's like, what is it really done? Where does it go? I posted on my story and I said, send me some, some foundations that are actually making a difference, you know? And a lot of people sent me Hunter Seven. So I had a call with Chelsea, one of the ladies at the foundation. She just explained to me how they're Uh, you know, my grandpa started with prostate cancer and she told me like, no one should ever die of prostate cancer. She said, it's so easy to test for, and when you do test for it, it's easy to nip in stage one and two, you know? She's like, that's part of the whole problem. So after talking to her for 30 minutes, I, I asked Cole and I told him to ask you what you think of it.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  And I think you guys said that you, you liked a lot of the stuff that they were doing.

• 35:36Gary Brecka?

  Did.

• 35:36Speaker 00

  So when I found that out, I was like, all right, let's do it. So we kind of put that purpose behind the run. And I knew, I knew a lot of people would donate money if we were doing the hundred miles. So I was like, let's do this also for a good cause. And do this in the name of my gramps too, who inspired me and I want to continue to do. Yeah, we ended up raising over 330,000. Drake jumped in, donated 150,000, which was amazing.

• 36:03Gary Brecka?

  I was on the live when that happened.

• 36:04Speaker 00

  Amazing.

• 36:05Gary Brecka?

  It's like a shot in the arm for all you guys.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  It was insane. So I think she even told me now, I think they're going to use that money and they're like partly opening up like a treatment center.

• 36:15Gary Brecka?

  That's awesome.

• 36:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. So we should go visit that too. And I would love to continue to do anything we're doing to help. You know, with that cancer. Cause I mean, what do you think? What like, what?

• 36:26Gary Brecka?

  I totally agree. I mean, I think.

• 36:27Speaker 00

  Why is, why are people still resorting to like chemotherapy and stuff? Is it just?

• 36:33Gary Brecka?

  Well, we know that all cancer, regardless of its form or its origin, was at one time a healthy cell. So regardless of what type or form or origin of the cancer, that, that cell was at one time a healthy cell. And it shifts, shifted its metabolism to being a sick cell. What's astounding to me is that we believe that healthy cells can become sick, but we don't believe that sick cells can become healthy. And, you know, I'm, I'm not a fan of current cancer treatment. I've been on the journey with several people that have put cancer in remission, including Dana White's mother in law. I, I didn't have anything to do with it. I'm not licensed to practice medicine. I just directed them to the right place to get care. But you know, what's amazing is, you know, we know now that we can turn the immune system on cancer.

• 37:15Gary Brecka?

  You know, there are dendritic cell vaccines where you can introduce cancer to your immune system and get your immune system to attack the cancer and eat it like a termite. It doesn't work in all cases. There are immunotherapies that boost the immune system to kill cancer. You know, we've never really addressed, you know, diet and lifestyle, not only as precursors for cancer, but also what to do once you get cancer. You know, I used to read discharge papers for cancer patients and I would be astounded as, you know, when it would say dietary guidelines or dietary recommendations. None. None. Benjamins?

• 37:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, makes no sense.

• 37:49Gary Brecka?

  You know, like, you can have, you know, whatever you want. And so I think that, I think the Maham movement, I think what folks like you are doing, I think with some of these naturopathic cancer foundations that are really starting to shift the needle to people's understanding that the best way is prevention, you know, keep people out of the system. But once you have it, that there's a lot that you have in your own possession to get to the other side of cancer treatment. And instead of just being, you know, preyed upon or treated upon, you can also take a lot of those decisions into your, into your own hands.

• 38:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd love to continue to, to spread awareness about it. Cause I think, like you said too, no dietary restriction. Like, let's at least-

• 38:29Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, would say discharge papers that would say dietary recommendations. None, in all caps. Like, none at all. Alcohol?

• 38:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cause I mean, when someone, especially-

• 38:38Gary Brecka?

  Smoking, vaping?

• 38:39Speaker 00

  I feel like the medical, medical industry in Canada than the US is like even more different a little bit. Like, Canada's like very like-

• 38:47Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 38:48Speaker 00

  -one dimensional.

• 38:49Gary Brecka?

  And very narrow.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  And it's hard to get access to those different types of things. Even the stuff we do here, biohacking and stuff, it's like, not as big there. I'm sure in other countries it's the same. But yeah, right now it's just like, you have cancer, chemo. Like, let's start the conversation at least. Let's talk about dietary restrictions. Let's talk about things you can do to prevent it, testing. Like, I'd love to help spread more awareness about that stuff.

• 39:15Gary Brecka?

  I'll definitely help you do that. I'd love to be a part of that journey with you. So when you talk about like goal setting and, and, and structure and having a plan, now that you sort of crested the mountain, no pun intended, on a, on a 100 mile race. Literally, you actually crested two mountains.

• 39:30Speaker 00

  I will remember that mountain forever. I fucking hate that mountain.

• 39:33Gary Brecka?

  I will, and I didn't even run it. But what's, what's next for you? Have you decided? Are you thinking about it?

• 39:43Speaker 00

  I definitely want to keep up with the crazy fitness stuff.

• 39:47Gary Brecka?

  I've heard you talk about Antarctica, maybe, or?

• 39:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think, I think we've come too far in our running to not do something else crazy. But there's also two elements to it, right? There's the physical element.

• 40:00Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 40:00Speaker 00

  And then there's, people are entertained by this now. We had 60,000 people in the stream. So I feel like we had a lot of doubters at the beginning too, right? In the chat, everyone was like, they're not going to finish.

• 40:12Gary Brecka?

  Hundred percent of the people thought that all six of you wouldn't finish. They didn't think that none of you would finish.

• 40:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:18Gary Brecka?

  But I would say a hundred percent of the people in the chat gave a zero percent chance to the six of you guys crossing the fish line together.

• 40:24Speaker 00

  Which is crazy. So the reason there was 60,000 people at the end is because we shocked people. So I feel like if we just, let's say I announce a 200 mile race. I feel like people would probably be like, oh, he's gonna do it now. I mean, it's only 100 more. Like, he's clearly mentally strong a little bit. So what is that next goal, fitness wise, that's going to test us? But also entertainment wise, that's going to make people buy in? And we gotta, it's like part two of the movie, right?

• 40:53Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 40:53Speaker 00

  What's next? What's going to be that goal? That people are going to doubt us and we're going to prove again. I know Cole's doing the Ironmans, that's insane.

• 41:05Gary Brecka?

  That's insane.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  But I think there'll be something. But right now, I just want to focus on putting on some muscle a little bit. Stay and try to get a little jacked and keep up with my running. I might, I'm going to try to hit some marathon PRs too. Cause Coach Matt is saying like, yo, you're in prime shape. He's like, in 10 weeks, you could do a sub three marathon.

• 41:24Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 41:25Speaker 00

  Which, which is insane.

• 41:27Gary Brecka?

  That is insane.

• 41:27Speaker 00

  I just did a 345 marathon in December.

• 41:30Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 41:31Speaker 00

  And like, the thought of going sub three marathon for me.

• 41:35Gary Brecka?

  Forty-five minutes off.

• 41:37Speaker 00

  Like I said, I'm technically a professional alcoholic. So if I'm going sub,

• 41:42Gary Brecka?

  technically.

• 41:43Speaker 00

  I mean, technically, I'm, I'm one of the largest shareholders of a top five alcohol brand.

• 41:48Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 41:48Speaker 00

  So if I can go sub three in a marathon, I think that'd be pretty fucking cool.

• 41:53Gary Brecka?

  I think.

• 41:53Speaker 00

  And I always shock and a happy dad at the end.

• 41:55Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 41:55Speaker 00

  That's a tradition. No matter what. We did a hundred miles. We shock and a happy dad.

• 41:59Gary Brecka?

  So yeah. Oh, no, you earned that happy.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  That's part of the tradition.

• 42:02Gary Brecka?

  Burn that thing off, man.

• 42:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:04Gary Brecka?

  But, um, you know, Jesse Itzler talks about, and, and, and Jesse's actually one of those folks. I just had him on my podcast, amazing podcast, one of those folks who's just crushed in sort of every area of life. I feel like he's got a really good, solid family foundation. He's got a great circle of friends. He's very inspiring and he's also exited, you know, companies for in excess of $5 billion. So he's succeeding on multiple, multiple fronts. I actually use his big ass calendar for the first time my wife and I spent, we went between Christmas and New Year's and did, did the, his big ass calendar. But he talks about this thing called a Masogi, um, which is a big, bold, audacious goal. You set it every year and you should only really have a 50 50 shot at completing it. Like even you.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 42:47Gary Brecka?

  Should, like when you set the hundred mile goal, somewhere in your mind was, I actually might not be able to do this. Right?

• 42:54Speaker 00

  See, I don't think like that.

• 42:55Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 42:56Speaker 00

  No, because when I set a goal.

• 42:57Gary Brecka?

  So the Masogi.

• 42:58Speaker 00

  When I set a goal, I knew, once we found Coach Matt and I knew he was the real deal, it, it was kind of like when you go to class and you actually did your homework. If I would compare it to that, like this time, you know, when you went to class and you're like, shoot, I didn't do my homework.

• 43:14Gary Brecka?

  Oh, she doesn't call.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  What am I going to tell the teacher? Like, I gotta think of an excuse. But sometimes you did get your Bristol board, you did your presentation, you had it ready and you walked into class like the man.

• 43:24Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 43:24Speaker 00

  And you knew like, I'm ready to hand this right into the teacher. So that's how I felt about this hundred miles was that we had such a good coach. We followed the training to a T. We recovered like beasts. We slept. We dedicated everything. So that's why for this specifically, I'm a guy where it's like, I only get anxiety if I know I didn't prepare properly.

• 43:43Gary Brecka?

  Hmm.

• 43:43Speaker 00

  So maybe we do need a goal that is more 50 50.

• 43:48Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, yeah. Where you like, even though you're prepared, you're like, there's a

• 43:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:51Gary Brecka?

  50 50. So you had a, you had a conversation with David Goggins at the last UFC fight.

• 43:56Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 43:57Gary Brecka?

  I'd love for you to talk a little bit about how that went, because that might be a Masogi right there.

• 44:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're right. Um, I mean, Goggins is obviously, he's a.

• 44:05Gary Brecka?

  Goggins broken. Some legends.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  Goggins is a legend. Obviously, we're good friends with Dana White and we've become, I've become pretty good friends with Hunter Campbell, too.

• 44:15Gary Brecka?

  He's a great human, too.

• 44:16Speaker 00

  Great, great guy, Hunter. Fucking genius.

• 44:19Gary Brecka?

  He is a genius.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  And I was asking him if we could do Goggins on the pod for like the last year or more. And he's like, yeah, like, let me work on it. You know, Goggins doesn't do a lot of stuff. He's not collabing with influencers and stuff.

• 44:34Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 44:35Speaker 00

  So I hit, Hunter hit me up about our 100 miles and like congratulated us. And he told me Goggins was gonna be at the fight on Saturday that we just went to.

• 44:44Gary Brecka?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  He said, I'll introduce you. So Goggins came by, shook his hand, and I told him, like, hey, bro, I just did my first 100. We also raised over 300,000 for Hunter 7. And he told me, he's like, dude, I don't give a fuck about the 100. He's like, you should've just told me you raised 300 for Hunter 7. He's like, that's fucking badass. So, and you know, it's, they do a lot for veterans, too, so I'm sure Goggins, you know, like that foundation. And he told me, he said, I'll tell you what, if you can survive a workout with me, I'll do some content with you.

• 45:16Gary Brecka?

  Oh.

• 45:17Speaker 00

  But I was like, fuck, that is the content, surviving the workout. But I don't know what that meant. But, but yeah, so basically, I guess he agreed at some point. I mean, we shook hands. We shook hands. So, we shook hands. And he said, yeah, I guess at some point, we're gonna be trying to survive.

• 45:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  A David Goggins workout. But I've heard he like, makes people do like 1,000 pull-ups. And like, our cardio is really good in shape.

• 45:43Gary Brecka?

  Who's the UFC fighter I saw?

• 45:44Speaker 00

  He did, he broke Adesanya.

• 45:46Gary Brecka?

  Adesanya, and then?

• 45:47Speaker 00

  Adesanya was like yakking in a bucket. And like, dude.

• 45:50Gary Brecka?

  He's like, get that weakness out.

• 45:51Speaker 00

  MMA athletes are the most, I think they're the most in shape athletes in terms of conditioning.

• 45:59Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  So like, for Adesanya to like, be yakking in a bucket, like, dude, I've trained with UFC fighters, and it's, we trained with Islam Makashev in Dagestan.

• 46:09Gary Brecka?

  What?

• 46:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, we went, you didn't know we went there?

• 46:11Gary Brecka?

  No.

• 46:12Speaker 00

  We went to Dagestan and we did a, we did a day.

• 46:14Gary Brecka?

  They let you in?

• 46:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:16Gary Brecka?

  That was cool.

• 46:16Speaker 00

  It wasn't easy.

• 46:17Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  We almost got, we almost got, they pulled us aside for two hours when we went into Dagestan.

• 46:22Gary Brecka?

  Why? Say, what are you doing?

• 46:23Speaker 00

  Because they said they hadn't seen someone from, it's not like we went to Moscow.

• 46:27Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 46:28Speaker 00

  We went to Dagestan. So they literally told us, no one from North America has been here in the last six months. They're like, what are you doing here?

• 46:36Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 46:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, so they thought we were spies.

• 46:38Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 46:39Speaker 00

  They literally thought we were spies, yeah. They're like, what are you doing here? Like, we haven't seen a American passport, Canadian passport, in six months. It's not a common thing to fly into that area.

• 46:49Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 46:49Speaker 00

  So, they pulled us aside for two hours and then we had to call Islam Makachev's manager, and he came to the airport.

• 46:57Gary Brecka?

  I got you.

• 46:58Speaker 00

  And like said, yo, like, they're with us. And then they let us go right away.

• 47:00Gary Brecka?

  Oh, wow.

• 47:01Speaker 00

  And then we had a great time after that. We went through some military checkpoints still. But we were with locals at that point, but if we, if we weren't, we would have been screwed. We went through military checkpoints.

• 47:11Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 47:11Speaker 00

  In Chechnya.

• 47:12Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 47:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:14Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 47:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. The game had to be quiet in Chechnya, too. Like, it was, they're not, you know, they're not too, uh...

• 47:20Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 47:20Speaker 00

  But, um, it was crazy, yeah. So, but we did, I mean, training with them, like, I was more out of shape then, too, but the way those UFC fighters train, I mean, you know, it's insane. Their conditioning, Islam did like, yeah, they were doing hill sprints.

• 47:33Gary Brecka?

  Mm-hmm.

• 47:33Speaker 00

  And just like, so for Adesanya to get broken like that from Goggins is like, I mean, SEAL training is next level. I've done it once.

• 47:42Gary Brecka?

  You have?

• 47:43Speaker 00

  I've done a SEAL one day, but dude, they do a whole fucking hell week of that shit. And they don't sleep?

• 47:49Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 47:49Speaker 00

  We did one day where we went to a beach workout. I worked out with some SEALs and we did the whole hit the surf, like, go into the water, like, that, and then push-ups till failure, sandbag lunges, bear crawls. That was like two hours, and then they took us to the pool. We had to do laps and we had to do underwater, um...

• 48:09Gary Brecka?

  Kettlebells?

• 48:09Speaker 00

  Kettlebell walks, the bobbing. That was harder than the 100 miles.

• 48:15Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 48:16Speaker 00

  The SEAL training.

• 48:17Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 48:17Speaker 00

  I, I think so, yeah. I just saw the SEAL actually yesterday, and he congratulated me on my 100. And I was like, dude, I think the SEAL training was harder. I don't, because they're, he literally told us, they are eliminating weakness from your mind. That training is designed to eliminate weakness from your mind. It's like, they're kind of brainwashing you in a way where it's like, those guys are mentally fucking tough.

• 48:44Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 48:44Speaker 00

  The SEALs?

• 48:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Speaker 00

  Holy shit, like, I don't... It's kind of scary to think about doing that again. It because they're breaking you.

• 48:52Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 48:52Speaker 00

  It's designed to break you.

• 48:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 48:54Speaker 00

  It's designed to weed out the weak people.

• 48:56Gary Brecka?

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• 49:35Gary Brecka?

  That's A I O N gear.com and you can use code ULTIMATE for 10% off and start training smarter today. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. You know, I um, I had DJ Shipley on my podcast and, and I actually, I take a little bit of something away, I think from.

• 49:52Speaker 00

  Was he one of the guys that went to the?

• 49:56Speaker 00

  In that new documentary?

• 49:57Gary Brecka?

  I think so. I think so. It's really close to Sean Ryan.

• 50:00Speaker 00

  He went to do the treatment.

• 50:01Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, you went to do the um.

• 50:03Speaker 00

  That documentary was amazing.

• 50:04Gary Brecka?

  What do you call it? Not ayahuasca, the um.

• 50:07Gary Brecka?

  What's the name of it? The treatment they do and a foundation for it for veterans.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  I wanted to donate, I wanted to raise money for that foundation originally.

• 50:14Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, that would be a great foundation.

• 50:15Speaker 00

  That's a good one too. That documentary was amazing.

• 50:17Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, because those, those guys not only really need it, it's from everything that I've seen, heard, spoken to people that I really respect about it. It's life-changing immediately.

• 50:28Speaker 00

  I bet.

• 50:28Gary Brecka?

  Like it's, it's, I mean, Dr. Mark Hyman just did it. And it's medically supervised and it's down in Mexico, but DJ talked about it with, with me a lot. And the shift that it made in him, and these, these are not like soft men, you know, um.

• 50:47Speaker 00

  No, they're the most beast ever. They served in Afghanistan and Iraq.

• 50:52Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I mean, they saw real combat, real trauma. And um, just to hear him talk about how it shifted everything, how he acts as a father, how he acts as a, as a husband, how, uh, how it's changed his perspective on what his purpose is here on earth. I mean, and I, and I've talked to so many people that have had the exact same experience. And I've never done it. So I don't know. I've never done like ayahuasca. I've never done one of those. I've never done ketamine. But I know that people that have had severe trauma like PTSD and severe trauma, or even have like overcoming emotional challenges, they'll say that it's like finding the Messiah, you know?

• 51:33Speaker 00

  I know.

• 51:34Gary Brecka?

  And it's it's fast and it's relatively permanent, you know, so he was he was the one that actually the little tip that I took from him was just preparing my clothes. I know it sounds so simple, of preparing my workout clothes the next day before I go to bed at night. And so like each night now, I just lay out shoes, socks, shorts and shirt. And it sounds so simple, but I lay it in the same place in my closet every night. And it saves me like 20 minutes in the morning every day because I wake up and the room's dark and I don't want to wake up my wife and fucking muddling around in the closet. I can never find my shoes or can't find my freaking socks. Now it's like right there, boom, I put it on, I'm out the door. So I so and I and I work out with Cole most mornings. So

• 52:18Speaker 00

  Prepping the day before.

• 52:20Gary Brecka?

  He's an ass cracker dog kid. I mean, 5:30, 6:00 AM, we're getting after it and I'll never be late for my son. So.

• 52:28Speaker 00

  How good does it feel to have a son that is now pushing you like fitness wise and stuff?

• 52:34Gary Brecka?

  It's a

• 52:35Speaker 00

  Because Cole's a fucking dog. He was the one guy that he could have kept going a little bit more, a hundred miles.

• 52:42Gary Brecka?

  He was going, he's like, Dad, I'm gonna take a nap and go to the gym. I go, no, you're not. This is a hormetic stress, man. We don't need any more stress on your body. But yeah, I mean, that goes with all my kids. I mean, I get inspired so much by my kids. They all live really close to me. But my daughter's a nurse, you know, his older sister Madison, she's

• 53:00Speaker 00

  Madison's amazing.

• 53:01Gary Brecka?

  Like starting her own chemical free skincare line, which she's super passionate about. My youngest is starting like a chemical free activewear line, you know, Dylan is working his way through college right now. And, you know, he's taking jiu jitsu and

• 53:14Speaker 00

  You guys are just a great fucking family.

• 53:16Gary Brecka?

  Dude.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  Honestly, like you guys are fucking, you guys are great people. Every time I come over here, it's just like the energy, it's fucking awesome. I'm so glad that we that we met and we became friends with you guys.

• 53:28Gary Brecka?

  Thank you.

• 53:28Speaker 00

  And now I'm becoming even closer with Cole too. He's pushing me too, so it's been awesome.

• 53:33Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, thank you. I mean, I think as a father, any mother or father would say this, like when, when that transition happens in your life where you start getting inspired by your children, like you actually start looking up to your children.

• 53:44Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 53:45Gary Brecka?

  And like.

• 53:46Speaker 00

  That must be such a great feeling.

• 53:47Gary Brecka?

  He's a really good man and she's a really good, good woman and like it's, that's the greatest feeling in the world. You know, when, when they're growing up, there, there's no better thing in the world than watching your kids play sports. Whether they're good or they're great or they suck or they're amazing, just watching your kids play sports is like, it's just the greatest.

• 54:07Speaker 00

  That's probably a rush, right?

• 54:08Gary Brecka?

  Such a rush.

• 54:09Speaker 00

  Feels like betting without betting.

• 54:11Gary Brecka?

  I never missed one of their games. I'd rather miss the Super Bowl than miss a high school football game.

• 54:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:15Gary Brecka?

  But, um, but now that they're adults and I'm just like, gosh, I mean, sometimes like I'll hear Cole or Madison talk about their business and I'm like, where did you get all of this? Like, where did this come from? You know, you, you have such a good grasp of your business and your goals and, and what needs to get done to get there. And, and you want to think that you're responsible for that, but you know, really they, they made these decisions on their own.

• 54:41Speaker 00

  I think it's got to stem a lot from parenting though, too.

• 54:44Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, I mean, I was very close.

• 54:45Speaker 00

  I was very blessed with very good parents too.

• 54:47Gary Brecka?

  Same.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  And that's a blessing that I maybe took for granted when I was younger too. But as I left Canada and started like going around the US, I realized, oh wow, that's actually not something you should take for granted. A lot of people didn't grow up with that and it's very hard.

• 55:04Gary Brecka?

  And then when you have kids, you'll be a lot more intentional.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  I bet, yeah.

• 55:07Gary Brecka?

  I'm very, very intentional about my kids, with my kids.

• 55:10Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:11Gary Brecka?

  Nothing would interrupt the time that I get to spend with them. And then the fact that I get to do this career and my kids are on the same platform with me, we all work in the same company, um, for different, different areas. But we all work in the same enterprise. It's to travel with them, to see clients together, to be in the hunt together, do stage talks together. It's just, it's, it is the single greatest blessing. I thank God for it every single morning when I'm sitting in silence.

• 55:36Speaker 00

  Cole's been good because now it's like, he's already signing up for a fucking 10 hour man.

• 55:41Gary Brecka?

  I feel so.

• 55:42Speaker 00

  I'm still getting hydrogen bubbles on my legs, trying to recover.

• 55:45Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 55:46Speaker 00

  And now that's why it's good to have friends like that because it's like, it's subconscious too, even if I'm not noticing it. It's like, oh,

• 55:53Gary Brecka?

  It's already on the next thing.

• 55:54Speaker 00

  Like, what am I doing now, too?

• 55:56Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 55:56Speaker 00

  It rubs off on you so subconsciously, having that circle of friends that are positive.

• 56:02Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 56:02Speaker 00

  That's why, too, a lot of, I decided at the end of last year, too, I'm like, I'm really gonna cut out a lot of people that are just, you know, they might have been in my life and

• 56:13Speaker 00

  but if they're not, you know, helping me be a better person, or it's just like, it's just not beneficial, you know?

• 56:20Gary Brecka?

  My old partner, Grant, used to say, show me the five people you hang around the most, I'll tell you exactly where your life's gonna be in three years. And, you know, you wanna be around, you know, for me, I like hanging around with younger people because it just keeps me young, it keeps me, it keeps me young and energetic and I feel a lot younger than I am. I'm 55, but I just feel younger, I'm the energy of 10 men. But then, you know, you also wanna hang around people that inspire you, that are doing a lot greater things than you. So you're, you're, you're constantly being drawn in that direction. When, when you were, when you were prepping for this race, um, just wanna circle back for a second. What were some of the, like, non-negotiables for you? Like, what were some of your biohacking modalities or some of your routines that were non-negotiable?

• 57:02Speaker 00

  I'm, I'm, I'm like, I took recovery as serious as the training. I mean, I've learned from you guys, too. I mean, yeah, I'd wake up pretty much, I'd wake up every day, probably. I mean, if we were running early, we also lived in Miami, so we'd have, if we're running 20 miles, you can't be starting at 9 a.m.

• 57:22Gary Brecka?

  No, you're starting at like 5.

• 57:23Speaker 00

  Because you're gonna be running in heat.

• 57:24Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 57:25Speaker 00

  So we would try to start running latest by 5:36. If we had a long run, so sometimes we're waking up at 4:30 at the boardwalk by 5:30. Gotta eat before, too. So I'd do that and then we'd crank out our run. We're obviously, learned how to fuel during our runs. You gotta be having a lot of calories during those 20 mile runs, gels. We learned about the Coca-Cola trick.

• 57:51Gary Brecka?

  Yeah. What's the Coca-Cola trick?

• 57:52Speaker 00

  Well, you know, you saw us cranking Coca-Cola.

• 57:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 57:55Speaker 00

  I didn't know that people did that. I started watching the documentaries, I'm like, they're drinking Coca-Cola? And then Matt, Matt-

• 58:00Gary Brecka?

  The shit you guys ate on that run.

• 58:02Speaker 00

  Matt explained to me, too, he's like, during 100 miles, you just gotta be able to put whatever fuel in your body you can. And the more- The easier it is to get calories into your body, the better with like the smaller amount of food, right? So you're not eating rice and stuff on run. You're eating donuts because it's just how many calories in a little donut?

• 58:23Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 58:23Speaker 00

  Six, you have a Coke in a donut, it's 600 calories. So we started, Coach Matt wanted us to practice stomaching food on our runs. So me and Cole would do that. We'd run 10 miles and then we'd stop at a gas station, walk into the gas station, grab a nice cold Coca-Cola.

• 58:40Gary Brecka?

  And we're

• 58:41Speaker 00

  It's crazy. And if you've ever had a, I haven't had a Coca-Cola to actually quench my thirst.

• 58:46Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 58:46Speaker 00

  You probably haven't in a while too. Oh God, it's good.

• 58:49Gary Brecka?

  It's good.

• 58:50Speaker 00

  It's good. Like, because usually you have a Coke Zero at dinner or something, right? And it's like, you're not dying of thirst, but to have a Coca-Cola when you're actually like, oh my God, it's amazing. It's worth it. So we would do that. And then after the run, I would, I would get stretched out by my trainer because I was still lifting weights too, because I didn't want to lose all my muscle.

• 59:09Gary Brecka?

  Right.

• 59:10Speaker 00

  So

• 59:10Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, you didn't get that skinny.

• 59:11Speaker 00

  No, so I was, I was lifting five to six times a week still, like lifting heavy. And then I would get stretched out probably four times a week.

• 59:21Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 59:22Speaker 00

  That was key, stretching after those runs. And then I would cold tub and sauna at like, you know, I'd miss a day or two sometimes if I was really busy, but cold tub, sauna every day. And then Normatec boots on my legs. And then I had to sleep. So I was going to bed sometimes, sometimes I was in bed by 7:30, 8.

• 59:47Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  And I would try to prioritize sleep as much as I can. You know, people would hit me up, want to go to dinner? And they wouldn't even say, want a drink? They'd just be like, want to go to dinner? And I'm like, I can't be, I can't stay up till 10:30.

• 59:57Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 59:58Speaker 00

  I gotta be asleep by nine because I gotta wake up at 4:30.

• 1:00:01Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  And this is not something that you have to prioritize your sleep.

• 1:00:05Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:05Speaker 00

  So I just cut out everything and it was full blown train. When training's done, recover, sleep, repeat.

• 1:00:13Gary Brecka?

  Well, what's next then on the, on the business side of things? I mean, what are, what are some of your big, bold, audacious goals on the business?

• 1:00:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, I feel like this has made me more. Hungry business wise too. And it's taught me if I have a goal, I just set that deadline and get that plan and you can really just achieve everything.

• 1:00:31Gary Brecka?

  Goal, deadline, plan.

• 1:00:33Speaker 00

  It's so simple. It's like, even if he wants to get in shape, it's like, yo, set a deadline or anyone like Gabe, anyone.

• 1:00:40Gary Brecka?

  Throwing it out to the world.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Or just anyone. If you want to, if you don't set a deadline, you're not going to get it done.

• 1:00:46Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:46Speaker 00

  Like, you're just like, oh, when are you going to get it done by? Set a deadline and then fill that in with a plan. So, um, yeah, no, two things we're, we're working on this year that one is pretty close to happening is, um, and we've been trying to do this for a few years, but I think it's finally the right timing is, um, I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be called yet, but, um, call it like Nelk. It's basically going to be Nelk pranks on steroids. And on a streaming service this year. So picture the pranks that we've always done, but now we have, we've always had a dream list of pranks.

• 1:01:23Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  That we were never quite able to pull out because they're so elaborate and expensive.

• 1:01:29Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:30Speaker 00

  And also we want to do that dream list of pranks now with, um, our celebrity network of friends.

• 1:01:36Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:36Speaker 00

  On celebrities and with celebrities in our ear. So you might see that on a streaming service this year. Which would be crazy. And we got a lot of celebrity friends, right?

• 1:01:46Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:48Speaker 00

  Dana White, Mike Tyson, Snoop Dogg.

• 1:01:51Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:52Speaker 00

  There's a lot of people that you might see. So that's one thing. And then I've also been writing the last, I've came up with the idea three years ago, but we've been working on a, an animated series as well. I've been working on. Picture like Nelk Fullson's version of a, a Family Guy or South Park.

• 1:02:12Gary Brecka?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:02:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. So just like, I'm not a character in it. I may or may not play a voice. But, um, just the Nelk Fullson tone.

• 1:02:21Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:21Speaker 00

  Of an animated comedy series. We are, uh, we're pretty close to some stuff on that as well. So those are two big entertainment goals.

• 1:02:29Gary Brecka?

  That's really cool.

• 1:02:30Speaker 00

  For me this year. I kind of started out when I was younger, wanting to do more conventional entertainment like that. So I'm kind of treating this decade as like, the second chapter of a decade, which it is, it's 2026. It's the second half of a decade. And, um, a lot of dreams that I had. As when I started out in entertainment. The prank stuff kind of just worked out for us, but now that I have my platform, I have my connections. I really want to get back to, I want to write movies.

• 1:02:58Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 1:02:59Speaker 00

  Comedy, eventually maybe even just like serious movies and stuff like that too. I'm a lot more creative, I think, than what I've done so far. So just doing a lot of that in the second half of this decade too. And then Happy Dad is obviously, it's crushing it.

• 1:03:15Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, you got a good team there too. John Chihidi.

• 1:03:18Speaker 00

  That's our main business. Yeah, John and Sammy are amazing.

• 1:03:20Gary Brecka?

  Incredible, man. I mean, the amount of business acumen between those two guys is unbelievable. The words of wisdom that come out of their mouths.

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, John's, yeah, I talk to John a lot. Everything business wise I do, I run it by John. And then they just complement each other so well. It's funny to see them argue sometimes too.

• 1:03:38Gary Brecka?

  He's such a muse of, of business. It's unbelievable for his age too.

• 1:03:43Speaker 00

  John's incredible. He's, he's become, they both become brothers to me too, and that doesn't happen by accident. But um, yeah, Happy Dad, where our distribution is going through the roof this year. Sammy just signed 200, I think, in 90, 290 different distribution deals. He negotiated last year in three months.

• 1:04:05Gary Brecka?

  Wow.

• 1:04:05Speaker 00

  Which can take like years to do. Cause we had only one distributor in each state. That's how it worked, but we switched to now a beer distributor network, which is going to increase our distribution like crazy. So we went from around 50 distributors to 300. And each one of those takes an individual, you know, negotiating a contract. He had to negotiate terms for each of those distributors. So now that we're with beer distributors.

• 1:04:34Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:34Speaker 00

  We're in, we're going to be in so many more stores in 2026 and 2027.

• 1:04:40Gary Brecka?

  That's awesome, man. Congratulations for that. Well, I think you're inspiring an entire. Generation, I really do. And it's, this has been an amazing journey that I've been on with you personally.

• 1:04:49Speaker 00

  I think it's still just the beginning too.

• 1:04:50Gary Brecka?

  I think so too.

• 1:04:51Speaker 00

  For all of us, right?

• 1:04:52Gary Brecka?

  I really do.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  A million subs on Ultimate Human too?

• 1:04:54Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:55Speaker 00

  That's huge. That's huge for your podcast. You're gonna get the, where you're gonna put the plaque?

• 1:05:00Gary Brecka?

  I got the 100,000 one in my, in my office.

• 1:05:03Speaker 00

  But a million's the real deal.

• 1:05:05Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, millions is a real deal.

• 1:05:07Speaker 00

  That's gonna go where? In the crib?

• 1:05:08Gary Brecka?

  Yeah, it's gonna go in the, in the office in the back.

• 1:05:11Speaker 00

  Hell yeah.

• 1:05:12Gary Brecka?

  On the wall of fame. But, um, you know, I, I wind down all my podcasts by asking my guests the same question. And there's no real right or wrong answer to this question, but what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 1:05:25Speaker 00

  I think I answered this last time, but now.

• 1:05:28Gary Brecka?

  Well, now that you've done the 100 miles, maybe it's different.

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  Now I would say.

• 1:05:34Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:05:36Speaker 00

  I think. Trying to think of the answer to this. I think after just doing my

• 1:05:44Speaker 00

  100 miles, I think like, you know, you would think being an ultimate human is just like physical stuff. But yeah, I would say just applying that ultimate human mentality that I did for my physical training. And now applying it to every avenue of my life. Basically, yeah, being disciplined, I think, and structured in every aspect of your life, not just health and wellness. But taking that same discipline that I did for my 100 miles and now applying it to my personal life. Like being disciplined, you know, being structured, not letting people that aren't serving me enter my personal life.

• 1:06:26Speaker 00

  And then in business as well, if I have a, you know, if I want to do this animated series. Be structured, be disciplined, set my deadlines, what's my plan? I'm a leader, be organized, organize my team. So I think it's just. Treating the same way that you treat your discipline in your gym and your health and wellness to all aspects of your life. That's what I've really learned from this 100 miles. It feels good, too.

• 1:06:52Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  I feel really happy and I just feel like it just, it unlocked something for me.

• 1:06:57Gary Brecka?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's really good.

• 1:06:59Gary Brecka?

  I love that, man. You've inspired a lot of people, Kyle. Thanks for coming on the Ultimate Human Podcast. I hope you'll be back again.

• 1:07:05Speaker 00

  Hundred percent.

• 1:07:05Gary Brecka?

  And before we go, you gotta tell me about those shoes.

• 1:07:07Speaker 00

  Well, these are Justin Bieber's.

• 1:07:09Gary Brecka?

  These are Justin Bieber's.

• 1:07:10Speaker 00

  Skylar. It's his brand. These are the comfiest flops.

• 1:07:12Gary Brecka?

  My production manager goes, "Those are fire."

• 1:07:14Speaker 00

  No, shout out to JV. These are the comfiest flops.

• 1:07:17Gary Brecka?

  Really?

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  Ever.

• 1:07:19Gary Brecka?

  All right. I might have to fire up a pair of those then. Those are Gabe's.

• 1:07:24Speaker 00

  Oh, I stole them from you.

• 1:07:25Gary Brecka?

  Gabe's like, "Oh, those are, those are mine, brother." Hey, guys, until next time, that's just science.