
The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos
Hosted by Laurie Santos
Breaking bad habits often feels like a test of willpower. We tell ourselves we’ll stop scrolling, eat better, or exercise more — and then fall right back into the same routines. So why is lasting change so hard? As part of our spring cleaning series, we’re revisiting a powerful episode from The Happiness Lab archives that reveals a surprising truth about behavior change: it’s not about willpower at all. Dr. Laurie Santos sits down with psychologist Wendy Wood https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ljLqYGEAAAAJ&hl=en to explore what the science of habits really says about why we get stuck — and how we can finally change. Along the way, we hear the remarkable story of American soldiers in Vietnam who abruptly overcame heroin addiction after returning home, offering a powerful clue about how habits really work. If you’re looking to break a bad habit or build a better one, this episode shows how small changes to your environment can make lasting change feel almost automatic. Experts Mentioned: Wendy Wood https://dornsife.usc.edu/wendy-wood/, Provost Professor of Psychology and Business, University of Southern California. Dr. Richard Ratner https://faculty.smhs.gwu.edu/richard-albert-ratner, Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Health, George Washington School of Medicine and Health Sciences Resources Mentioned: Good Habits, Bad Habits: The Science of Making Positive Changes That Stick https://books.apple.com/us/book/good-habits-bad-habits/id1455846455, by Wendy Wood (2019) “How Do People Adhere to Goals When Willpower Is Low? The Profits (and Pitfalls) of Strong Habits https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-18890-001,” by David T. Neal, Wendy Wood, and Aimee Drolet (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2013) “The Pull of the Past: When Do Habits Persist Despite Conflict with Motives? https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0146167211419863,” by David T. Neal, Wendy Wood, Mengju Wu, and David Kurlander (Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 2011) “Ironic Processes of Mental Control https://dtg.sites.fas.harvard.edu/DANWEGNER/pub/Wegner%20Ironic%20Processes%201994.pdf,” by Daniel M. Wegner (Psychological Review, 1994) “How Permanent Was Vietnam Drug Addiction? https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.64.12_Suppl.38,” by Lee N. Robins, Darlene H. Davis, and David N. Nurco (American Journal of Public Health, 1974) CBS News Lottery Draft 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p5X1FjyD_g (Archival Footage) "G. I. Heroin Addiction Epidemic in Vietnam" https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1971/05/16/issue.html (The New York Times, 1971) G. I. Junkie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5860066/ (Documentary, 1971) Related Episodes: "A New Hope https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-new-hope/id1474245040?i=1000461663335" "You Can Change https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-can-change/id1474245040?i=1000449594792" "Happiness Lessons of the Ancients: Sikhism and Daily Habits https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happiness-lessons-of-the-ancients-sikhism-and-daily-habits/id1474245040?i=1000605762631" See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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