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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

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• 0:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say, these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set.

• 1:26Paige DeSorbo?

  New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here. Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Sup, gigglers? Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my gratifying gigglers. We have so much to talk about today. I'm like, I have like a notebook out.

• 3:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You're bursting.

• 3:58Hannah Berner?

  The docket is crazy.

• 4:00Paige DeSorbo?

  We were on FaceTime last night and we had to hang up.

• 4:03Hannah Berner?

  That was so sad.

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It was actually sad.

• 4:06Hannah Berner?

  Sad. We were like vibing and then I was like coming up with more shit and then at some point Paige was like, "Stop. We need to save this for the gigglers."

• 4:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We're gonna have no contact. We've just laughed about it all.

• 4:18Hannah Berner?

  Do you realize Giggly Squad is actual therapy for us? Because I actually stopped doing therapy a couple of months ago because I was busy. And, but you know in therapy, like, you're doing well and you just complained to your therapist about how you're so busy and how the therapy's stressing you out. And then you're like, "I think you're the problem."

• 4:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't think we were gonna get this deep this quickly and it's also like 10 a.m. on a Monday.

• 4:41Hannah Berner?

  We're under a minute in.

• 4:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have something witchy I want to say too.

• 4:45Hannah Berner?

  Okay, okay.

• 4:47Paige DeSorbo?

  One of the reasons I think that in my twenties, I would go on and off with therapy so much is, which is different than in my early thirties. My early thirties, it's like, I really am so busy. Like, I'm fucking up your schedule with your other clients because of me. Like, let's take a minute, let's take a beat for a couple of months. In my early twenties, I would fall off because I, which now I can recognize, I didn't think my problems were big enough to take up someone's time one hour during the week. Like, I felt guilty getting on a Zoom and being like, I really didn't have any childhood trauma. Like, I felt-

• 5:30Hannah Berner?

  No, you were like, my friend wore a halter top after she saw me wearing a halter top.

• 5:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I felt shame of like, you don't have any issues.

• 5:42Hannah Berner?

  But you're supporting a small business regardless.

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Correct. It didn't take me till my early thirties to be like, that's, you need to be in therapy for that thought alone.

• 5:53Hannah Berner?

  My problem was the opposite. I couldn't afford therapy in my twenties until I, until I couldn't afford not to. And then every session, I would, period. Every set, write that down. Every session, I would be like, is this worth $200? And then I would start needing therapy to be like, I'm stressed about if this is worth it, because I need to pay rent. And $600, what, $800 a therapy a month?

• 6:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot.

• 6:23Hannah Berner?

  A thing came out that it's now stylish to like, not brush your hair. And now I'm starting to feel like, people are just like-

• 6:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Coming for your brand.

• 6:31Hannah Berner?

  Coming for my brand.

• 6:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I grew my hair out.

• 6:34Hannah Berner?

  You grew, look, we have the same hair right now.

• 6:36Paige DeSorbo?

  We have the same hair.

• 6:38Hannah Berner?

  We have the same hair. We're merging into the same person.

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  We're becoming one.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  And the gigglers still have not gotten a firm answer from you on the socks and sandals outfit. I keep getting tagged.

• 6:51Paige DeSorbo?

  What socks and sandals outfit?

• 6:53Hannah Berner?

  I wore that like brown outfit.

• 6:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:56Hannah Berner?

  With socks and sandals to today's show, and I don't think you commented and the gigglers are kind of upset because they don't know which way to go.

• 7:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I apologize. I can't give a, I can't come up with something witty every time my friend posts.

• 7:10Hannah Berner?

  Also, I had a press tour. Like, it was a lot of stuff to keep up with.

• 7:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I love socks and like a heel like that. I think it's cunt. That's the only word I can describe. Like, it's just cunty. And there is something about it that feels British.

• 7:24Hannah Berner?

  Okay, yes, because it's like rainy, so you have to wear a sock when you go out. I do have to warn people, though, like a sock with a heel. You're slipping as well. Like, I almost tore my ACL three times.

• 7:36Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to have a real grip on your toes.

• 7:38Hannah Berner?

  And you can't. Wait, wait. We have to invent a pilates sock for a socks and sandals.

• 7:45Paige DeSorbo?

  If it just had like a couple little button things on the bottom, it'd be better. I'm surprised that more, the inside of more shoes don't have those. Like heels specifically, like in a lot of my like sandal heels, if I had those little grippy things at the bottom, right where my toes go, it'd be so much easier to walk.

• 8:05Hannah Berner?

  So I know this is so us. In four minutes, we've come up with a business idea. We've talked about our therapy and made fun of each other.

• 8:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to hear my witchy thing? You want to hear my witchy thing? Over the weekend, I went to a wedding. I had so much fun. Granted, there were, it was like loud events, like Friday night, welcome dinner. There was like loud music, Saturday night, wedding, obviously loud. But my ears were ringing all weekend, okay? And ever since I was little, like if I ever said like my ears are ringing, my mom would be like, someone's talking about you. Like that, like cliche.

• 8:36Hannah Berner?

  She's so Italian. She's like, someone's talking shit. Someone's talking shit on your grave.

• 8:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever. I like didn't think anything of it over the weekend. Monday morning, this morning, I wake up and I'm just like so motivated. I like wake up at like 8 a.m. I take a shower, I put workout clothes on, I go for a like 45 minute walk, I get a coffee, I do some emails. I start, I'm like, okay, when are we doing Giggly Squad? I woke up so motivated and rarely on a Monday morning am I motivated. Takes me till like Tuesday night, Wednesday morning.

• 9:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, the week has started.

• 9:13Hannah Berner?

  Thursday, half past noon.

• 9:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that my ears were ringing all weekend and someone was talking bad about me. And that's why Monday morning, my, because my energy is so connected to the universe. I feel like my body woke me up Monday morning motivated because that's what I do. I take negativity and I create.

• 9:34Hannah Berner?

  Positivity.

• 9:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Positivity.

• 9:36Hannah Berner?

  And success and money.

• 9:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And so I feel like that's what happened to me.

• 9:38Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what's weird? Normally I just send you comedy videos, but my TikTok was bringing me like really, um, like fuck the haters videos.

• 9:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:48Hannah Berner?

  I don't know why. And it was like, you know who believes in you more than anyone? The people talking bad about you. And for some reason I was like, I need to send this to Paige. So if you look at your TikTok, it's just me sending you motivational videos against people who don't believe in you. So.

• 10:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it.

• 10:01Hannah Berner?

  We're really on the same page with that.

• 10:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I really love it.

• 10:04Hannah Berner?

  But finally, what I just say, therapy is like, this is really therapy for us. And I also just have to do a thank you to the gigglers because my special came out. The gigglers watched it. If you loved me, put it on one more time today. But like, there's so many people, like, if I didn't have the gigglers, like who?

• 10:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Cares about us.

• 10:22Hannah Berner?

  I have the gigglers. I don't need other people's support. I don't need, you know, fake friends. I don't need.

• 10:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:29Hannah Berner?

  Industry. Like I just need.

• 10:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You're our Jalen Brunson, Hannah. Okay?

• 10:35Hannah Berner?

  No, someone posted a old.

• 10:37Paige DeSorbo?

  You're our comedian, Jalen Brunson.

• 10:41Hannah Berner?

  Someone posted an old article of like someone making fun of me when I, you know, left reality TV being like, now she's gonna make fart jokes in comedy clubs. And it was.

• 10:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like that's a quote taken exactly from you though.

• 10:52Hannah Berner?

  I did say that.

• 10:56Hannah Berner?

  No words were changed.

• 10:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Or were they just reporting what they heard?

• 11:00Hannah Berner?

  The news. No, but whatever was making fun of me for like, this is gonna suck. I was like, you all created a monster now.

• 11:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:09Hannah Berner?

  But it's just the, what would we do without the love and support of this community? Like.

• 11:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I met a lot of gigglers this weekend, like at airports.

• 11:18Hannah Berner?

  I mean, the gigglers are traveling.

• 11:20Paige DeSorbo?

  They're traveling. They're summering.

• 11:22Hannah Berner?

  Just to get over with. I haven't taken my Knicks shirt off since the last podcast. Just kidding. But, um, the Knicks won and the funniest thing about it was Jalen Brunson looked at the cameras like, guys, just be safe.

• 11:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:38Hannah Berner?

  There were 63 people injured and seven stabbings. And someone commented and said, double, double, double, almost a double, double, which is a hilarious basketball joke. But then someone goes, no one died. A win is a win. And the bar is so low for men. They're like, yeah, a bunch of people got stabbed in Times Square, but no one died?

• 11:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see the video of the taxi driver that was just like, this is my livelihood? Like, I understand that the city is erupting. Like you could feel like it's moving.

• 12:15Hannah Berner?

  It's actually shit.

• 12:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, guys, we're gonna sink into the Hudson.

• 12:19Hannah Berner?

  Well, there were some gay guys that were like, I thought it was nine 11 again. I didn't know there was a game going on. I just heard people yelling in the streets.

• 12:29Paige DeSorbo?

  There were two guys up on a, um, like light pole and they started making out.

• 12:35Hannah Berner?

  It's Pride Month, too.

• 12:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and the comments were like, if these were identifying straight men, that like, and they're like, it's not gay if it's because the Knicks won.

• 12:46Hannah Berner?

  That is so funny.

• 12:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, here's another thing. Also, like, don't like the school buses on flat fire. Like, it's really scary.

• 12:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so proud of the Knicks. I'm so

• 12:59Paige DeSorbo?

  proud of the individual players because if there's one thing I'm gonna do while I'm watching a sports game is like, I'm gonna just end up looking up like, what's their girlfriend like? And like, what's their vibe, you know? And so like you, once you said that the one guy's parents passed away, I was like,

• 13:16Hannah Berner?

  Now I need to look up everyone's lore.

• 13:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I need to look up everyone's lore. Such, Ben Stiller is making a documentary, right?

• 13:24Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's why he's walking around horizontal, videoing everything.

• 13:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Such good stories for each of like the starting players. But I would be remiss if I did not bring up the number one thing that I thought the entire time at the end of the game. The entire New York Knicks organization was wearing matching t-shirts and we love that.

• 13:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I will have to point out that they were bedazzled.

• 13:50Hannah Berner?

  The second I saw it, I texted you. You texted me. We were like, no one's gonna say anything about this?

• 13:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, be you. Wear whatever style you want. What makes you happy? You like it, I love it.

• 14:05Hannah Berner?

  Someone at the corner office was like, what? Had to make an actual call to be like, can we add bedazzles?

• 14:15Paige DeSorbo?

  A girl made a TikTok and she said, ladies, I hate to inform you, but we have in fact lost the war.

• 14:23Hannah Berner?

  Men running around in bedazzled shirts, hugging and kissing each other.

• 14:29Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love, I'm not coming on here being a hater of it. I love it. I'm like, yes, this is what the men are missing. They need to be able to express their feelings. This is why.

• 14:39Hannah Berner?

  Our girls, girls.

• 14:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's all I'm saying. Like, okay, like totally, guys, like do what you want.

• 14:44Hannah Berner?

  Let's also talk about who actually won the championship. First of all, we have Jordan Woods, who like with her magical bag. And everyone was joking about it. And then by the end, no one was joking. People were like, where the fuck's the bag?

• 14:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love that it was her own brand.

• 15:01Hannah Berner?

  Own brand.

• 15:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it. It was her own brand. And I hope that Tristan Thompson is somewhere.

• 15:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Having a miserable time.

• 15:12Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's karmic, babe.

• 15:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love that Jordan was like, I never needed anyone.

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 15:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I was always that girl. And I like that.

• 15:23Hannah Berner?

  That's entrepreneurship at its finest. And then, not to name drop, but Jalen Brunson's wife, Ally, who they've been dating since high school.

• 15:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I didn't know they had been dating since high school. I did watch a video of their wedding, though.

• 15:38Hannah Berner?

  So I missed that. You're like, I did watch a full recap of their wedding. Um, she is-

• 15:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I did get to their wedding website.

• 15:44Hannah Berner?

  She's a giggler.

• 15:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, and we've met her.

• 15:47Hannah Berner?

  We've met her. It's fucking insane. My favorite part was he gave her the trophy at one point. And I don't know if you guys know the shape of the trophy, but like, she started holding it like a baby. And it was so cute. And I'm like, and that's the mother of the team.

• 16:00Paige DeSorbo?

  For Daphne, we can like, we gift to like, a lot of people. And we can see when they've been like, yes, I'll accept this gifting. And she accepted it like last week. And I was just like.

• 16:14Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my god.

• 16:15Paige DeSorbo?

  A girl's girl.

• 16:17Hannah Berner?

  Ally, you're welcome to come on the pod, chat the Knicks. We're a huge, huge sports podcast.

• 16:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Big sports pod.

• 16:23Hannah Berner?

  I have to do, women's stuff of the week is Sandra's braids. She's been braiding a lot of the Knicks hair. And Josh Hart in particular, she braided it to have like a New York sign on top. And the guys like swear by it and they need Sandra to do their hair before every game.

• 16:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I do love the superstition that is involved in sports because it's like, oh, you guys don't believe in astrology. But if you don't wear the same underwear every day. Okay, guys, why don't you keep bedazzling your shirts?

• 16:54Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 16:55Paige DeSorbo?

  We'll be over here.

• 16:56Hannah Berner?

  Also, shout out New York Liberty. They're playing. The girls are still playing. But um, I do think it was a beautiful moment for New York in general, just to show like- The city coming together, people from all different places and stories and us all just sinking with the happiness.

• 17:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, also, I think New York City has so much influence over the rest of the country. And so I feel like when we're up.

• 17:22Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 17:22Paige DeSorbo?

  We set a tone, we set a certain tone.

• 17:25Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 17:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And I really feel like New York City is, it is feeling very 2016.

• 17:31Hannah Berner?

  It literally was giving 2016.

• 17:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I do kind of feel like I just got like out of college and I'm like, let's day drink somewhere with a breeze. Um, yeah.

• 17:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 17:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Are we still talking about the next or can we?

• 17:45Hannah Berner?

  No, we can move on.

• 17:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 17:48Hannah Berner?

  Thank you for asking for consent.

• 17:50Paige DeSorbo?

  This girl, this girl made a TikTok and she was like, I have best friend, best friended with my best friend so hard that I know all of her fears, all of her hopes and dreams, like I know everything about her. And she was like, but I don't know basic things about her. So they spent the night asking each other.

• 18:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And I sat there and I go, oh my God, gun to my head. Someone said, what's Hannah's favorite color? I have no fucking idea.

• 18:20Hannah Berner?

  We could like guess, but we've not, we don't know.

• 18:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I have no idea.

• 18:24Hannah Berner?

  Our next thing I'm gonna get into is Mormon wives, which like might take the whole pod. However, they're, you know, Macy and Michaela don't hug. Like they hug everyone else. They look at each other like, we don't hug. And I was like, wait, that's so best friend. Why can't best friends hug?

• 18:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 18:39Hannah Berner?

  Is it because we're like?

• 18:40Paige DeSorbo?

  It's because I know too much.

• 18:45Hannah Berner?

  It's like, we're so mentally connected that we're like, I don't need to touch you.

• 18:50Paige DeSorbo?

  It almost feels performative.

• 18:51Hannah Berner?

  It feels performative. That's why best friends like don't have photos together.

• 18:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because I'm like this bit. Yeah, I'm gonna go like.

• 18:57Hannah Berner?

  Like, let's take a photo.

• 18:59Paige DeSorbo?

  It feels like we're making fun of our friendship.

• 19:01Hannah Berner?

  No, even on the road, when they were like, can you guys make a TikTok together? We're like, ooh. With her?

• 19:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Anytime we're taking pictures and they say, look at each other and laugh.

• 19:11Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God.

• 19:12Paige DeSorbo?

  We physically can't do it.

• 19:15Hannah Berner?

  It's actually so uncomfy. Like, we don't make eye contact. We just talk at each other.

• 19:20Paige DeSorbo?

  We only make eye contact when it's like. It's like, hey, look at me, I have to tell you something and like, it's like when we're in a

• 19:28Hannah Berner?

  Well, really making eye contact where we're not speaking, exactly. But also, I was looking at TikTok, there's like two types of girls growing up, the girls who liked pink and then the girls who like, didn't like pink because it was like a statement.

• 19:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 19:42Hannah Berner?

  But like, that's me and you, like, I know, your favorite color was pink.

• 19:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Of course, Hannah, I remember, I remember the day the girls turned on me. They were like, you still like pink? And I was like, first of all, purple is for haters, like you, it's like you want to be pink, but you won't commit to it. I'll never forget, I was in second grade when all of a sudden the girls were like, no, my favorite color is not pink. And I was like,

• 20:06Hannah Berner?

  And they said purple?

• 20:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, cuz they, you know what it is? It's a little pick me to be like, I don't like pink.

• 20:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, then there'd be like one rogue girl that would be like, orange.

• 20:18Hannah Berner?

  Okay, call the police.

• 20:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd be like, okay, freak, like.

• 20:22Hannah Berner?

  Well, I was like fighting the patriarchy, so I probably said blue, but I didn't feel attached to blue. I just knew I didn't want pink. And when you start liking pink again, it shows like you're healing. I personally, pink brings out like bad tones in my skin. So I personally don't, I think I, I really like green.

• 20:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It's funny that Mystic Michaela said that my aura is pink because from a very young age, I've actually felt an inanimate object vibe toward the color pink. Like if I didn't, if there was an option to get something and they were all different colors, I would feel guilty if I didn't get the pink one.

• 21:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because it's speaking to you.

• 21:02Paige DeSorbo?

  That's part of me, like that is, that's for me. Even now, as an adult, if there's like color options, everyone always knows Paige is gonna want the pink one.

• 21:11Hannah Berner?

  Well, you have a pink microphone right now.

• 21:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Cuz it's cute.

• 21:15Hannah Berner?

  I really like the ugly green color that Dakota Johnson's kitchen was. Like, that's my vibe.

• 21:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 21:22Hannah Berner?

  But that's also, anyway, you guys, I've been in a K-hole.

• 21:25Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a top podcast.

• 21:31Hannah Berner?

  Wait, literally the other day, I was opening my fridge and I was like, we have a lot of responsibility. We, so many people are listening to the pod. I'm like, what do I want to say on the pod tomorrow? That will like change humanity. And then I was like, I want to talk about Dakota Johnson's color of her.

• 21:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I have not stopped quoting Grace's date since I found out about it. And all I keep saying is like,

• 21:50Hannah Berner?

  We're gonna make history.

• 21:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been leaving the kitchen and saying it.

• 21:57Hannah Berner?

  Do you remember that show, Kids Say the Darnedest Things?

• 22:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:01Hannah Berner?

  Men Say the Darnedest Things needs to be like the next show. Like, please send us all the things that men have said to you and we'll start a segment with it. Also, it's Grace's birthday. Happy birthday, Grace.

• 22:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, happy birthday, Grace.

• 22:13Hannah Berner?

  Our Lord and Savior.

• 22:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, autumn in New York is the season where we can finally start dressing again. Every single thing is an excuse to put on a look. Going to work? Outfit. Leading a meeting? Outfit. Getting drinks with your friends? Obviously outfit. And as we all know, every great outfit starts from the feet up. That is why I'm currently obsessed with alleys from Sam Edelman. They're ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute and I'm already envisioning my next outfit. Straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not.

• 22:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season, it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two, like the new Teigan and Tallulah pumps, plus ready to wear handbags, fragrances, and even a new men's collection. So basically, you can make sure both you and your man are looking good for date night. Because we're not doing all that getting dressed just to let him show up in a t-shirt. Head to samedelman.com and get 15% off with code giggly15.

• 23:36Paige DeSorbo?

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• 25:03Paige DeSorbo?

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• 26:29Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I've been in a true K-hole with Mormon wives and look, I know I'm annoying. God forbid I watch something when everyone else is watching it. I have to wait like six years later and then I text page, I'm like, wait. This show is really good.

• 26:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like Kim Kardashian.

• 26:43Hannah Berner?

  How did she do that? Oh yeah, she's like, have you guys listened to NSYNC?

• 26:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Game of Thrones was like the biggest phenomenon of the whole country. It was like the last time we were actually united as a country was when the season finale was on and people like hated it.

• 26:58Hannah Berner?

  I didn't watch the season finale.

• 26:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Three weeks later, Kim Kardashian like comes on Instagram stories and is like, have you guys heard of Game of Thrones?

• 27:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's like, yeah.

• 27:07Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with her. So Mormon wives is one of the best, like it's, it might be better than Vanderpump Rules.

• 27:16Paige DeSorbo?

  A hundred percent.

• 27:17Hannah Berner?

  Because for so many reasons, but one positive thing I want to say about it is I've never seen women on TV, pregnant, going about their life in such a normal way. I feel like whenever someone's pregnant, they're either hiding it or they're like,

• 27:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's making a big deal of it.

• 27:37Hannah Berner?

  These girls are just fully pregnant, having fights, talking shit, taking care of their kids, talking about their sex life. It is no, like I'm learning more about being pregnant than ever before.

• 27:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's, they make it feel very like your life doesn't stop. You're just adding like bonus fun to it. Like what are you talking about? You could do anything with a baby.

• 28:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, there's like nine girls, someone's always pregnant and they don't even acknowledge it. They're like, oh, it's you today.

• 28:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's that I don't think people talk about that enough because like what other? Reality show is really about like the early lives of people, like the early relationships of people?

• 28:21Hannah Berner?

  Or like when someone is pregnant, they're like, she's pregnant, she can't come, she's pregnant. These girls are literally like yelling at people's husbands, fully pregnant. And then all Michaela and Macy do is eat. And I'm obsessed. They had like a road trip and they stopped to pee like eight times and eat. And I'm like, that's incredible journalism of what it's like being pregnant in like a funny way. And it makes me feel like, like I was always so scared of pregnancy in terms of like, what do you do? You're just like sad and pregnant in a corner.

• 28:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:51Hannah Berner?

  These girls are like, you can do anything pregnant.

• 28:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And I feel like I already have, and you too, we've already gone to so many functions where people will be like drinking, where we're not drinking. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like I can survive it. I think of it as like, sorry, I'm Irish exiting, I'm pregnant.

• 29:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm growing a human. God forbid I have to leave and use the bathroom.

• 29:15Hannah Berner?

  I'm getting a cheese fry.

• 29:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, okay, what about it?

• 29:19Hannah Berner?

  Also, now I realize, like, first of all, I'm kind of a Mormon wife because they all wear their hair down the middle with waves, which you know that's what I ask for.

• 29:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Love.

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  Then low key, everywhere they go, like the one problem with me with reality TV is I actually didn't like drinking and I wasn't good at drinking. And, but I was in my mid twenties, so like you could have convinced me to do anything.

• 29:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 29:41Hannah Berner?

  Even though no one asked me to do cocaine, which is a whole, you can listen to that episode another time. But all these girls go everywhere and they're like, we got these mocktails. And I'm like, fun, cute. Instead, I'm the loser that's like whispering the mocktail I want to order. And everyone's like, what's that? What's that? What's that? And I'm like, it's the hibiscus tea, like mint. And it's really expensive.

• 30:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, it's always the hibiscus.

• 30:05Hannah Berner?

  It's always the hibiscus with some ginger and lime.

• 30:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Sober people love hibiscus.

• 30:10Hannah Berner?

  Love hibiscus. And then they're making them like shots. And I'm like, I want to hang out with these girls because all they're doing is drinking cute fun drinks. All this, everywhere they go, they're like, here's your fun drink. And don't tell me that like they need alcohol to fight because these girls do not. And they're pregnant, like, how do they have the fucking energy? I'm just, like, so impressed. I have so many thoughts.

• 30:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, they're young.

• 30:31Hannah Berner?

  And I'm learning more about Mormonism, which you guys know, like, we have a, we're obsessed with. Um, do you know what a BYU Super Weekend is?

• 30:38Paige DeSorbo?

  A BYU Super Weekend? Okay, so Brigham, Brigham, Brigham Young.

• 30:43Hannah Berner?

  Mr. Young.

• 30:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Is the college?

• 30:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, so all of them are Mormons in college.

• 30:48Paige DeSorbo?

  And a Super Weekend, ooh.

• 30:50Hannah Berner?

  You're gonna love this.

• 30:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Is a Super Weekend when you have, like, mixers and you meet, like, potentially your husband?

• 31:00Hannah Berner?

  It has to do with Vegas.

• 31:03Hannah Berner?

  Paige? When they wanna have sex, they go to Vegas, get married, have sex, and then annul it, and then go back home. And I said, "These people are fucking geniuses."

• 31:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm upset.

• 31:18Hannah Berner?

  You would have loved a BYU Super Weekend.

• 31:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That is, like, rebellion at a 14-year-old reading level. Because what do you mean, you're a grown adult? Just for?

• 31:31Hannah Berner?

  Well, they wanna go to heaven.

• 31:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 31:33Hannah Berner?

  They wanna go to heaven.

• 31:35Paige DeSorbo?

  God created sex. Like, I never, I'll never get that. Like, if he didn't want you to do it, it wouldn't, like, eh, what?

• 31:44Hannah Berner?

  I also, I don't think that God cares about the details that much.

• 31:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 31:48Hannah Berner?

  God's dealing with, like, serious things. He's not gonna get into semantics.

• 31:52Paige DeSorbo?

  The nitty-gritty of if the penis fully went in, he's not gonna leave me out of it.

• 31:57Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so then they have this thing called docking.

• 32:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 32:00Hannah Berner?

  It's like, a little gross, but it's basically when, this is how they describe it. They put the hot dog in the bun and just move it, but it doesn't go in anything.

• 32:10Paige DeSorbo?

  What bun?

• 32:11Hannah Berner?

  The vagina labia. So they just, like, put the dick.

• 32:16Paige DeSorbo?

  On top of it.

• 32:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and they call it docking.

• 32:19Paige DeSorbo?

  And they just stare at each other? And do what? Like, what do you mean, and do what?

• 32:24Hannah Berner?

  By the way, all this stuff is freakier than sex, by the way. Like, so much freakier.

• 32:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It's actually 10 times more intimate.

• 32:32Hannah Berner?

  Imagine going to Vegas, going through a whole ceremony, and then he comes in 13 seconds, because you know these men will, because they're, like, not watching porn or anything. And then you're like, "We did a whole, we did paperwork for you to come in 13 seconds?" And you know these girls aren't orgasming.

• 32:47Paige DeSorbo?

  If I have to match a shoe to an outfit.

• 32:53Paige DeSorbo?

  My libido's down. I've, I've, you've ruined the moment. How horned up are they?

• 32:58Hannah Berner?

  And they're all doing anal.

• 33:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And for an extent.

• 33:01Hannah Berner?

  They're all doing anal. They're all doing anal. Not all of them, but they're all doing anal.

• 33:07Paige DeSorbo?

  They're the freakiest. Look, I fully, this is why I love Mormonism. I believe that you should be able to believe any religion you want at any, as long as you're not murdering people. Like, I think you should believe whatever the fuck you want.

• 33:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I forgot what I was gonna say.

• 33:28Hannah Berner?

  No, I agree. And as long as your religion isn't hurting other people.

• 33:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you could argue that any religion is a little bit culty. Like, you could hear something and be like, hmm, and that's a little culty.

• 33:39Hannah Berner?

  No, I would argue all of them.

• 33:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, all of them.

• 33:43Hannah Berner?

  I think what's happening to these women is, it started to be like a couple of things and they're like, that's weird. But then by the end, they're like, literally all these rules are like to suppress us. And we love God and we love morals, but at this point.

• 33:56Paige DeSorbo?

  We were talking about this last night, that like, obviously we think that reality TV is such the best study of anthropology, but Mormon house, Mormon wives is even 10 times better than that because when they do certain things, you can exactly pinpoint why. So it's like, these things have been done to your mom and then she did them to you and now that's how you think and you might do it to your daughter. Where like the Mormon housewives are kind of being like, but I am not gonna do, like, I don't think any of those women are going to put the sexual shame on their daughters that was put on them.

• 34:38Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent.

• 34:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I really don't see them ever.

• 34:41Hannah Berner?

  They're gonna talk to them, they're gonna ask, like, imagine putting your daughter in a room with a man and she doesn't know anything. You need to send her in equipped. I'm gonna tell her all the bad things to look out for, all the good things. Like, I'm sending her in with a fucking checklist.

• 34:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you sex talk with your mom?

• 34:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 34:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Like because Lenore is a principal, I like, did she, I wonder if she had like a strategic.

• 35:07Hannah Berner?

  Well, this is the thing. I was a huge prude because I was just cared about tennis and I was the oldest of the family. So I didn't have like older sisters or older brothers telling me things. Like, I remember being at a sleepover and someone's like, so and so's horny. And I was like, do they need to get that check? Like, are there bumps? Like, I thought they meant they had like horns coming out of their skin. And I was like.

• 35:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I remember the first time someone said sixty-nine. And I was like.

• 35:30Hannah Berner?

  No, like.

• 35:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  My mom literally like, it was, she'd laugh because I was the last to find out everything. And she's like, you're such a fucking loser.

• 35:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but that's very sweet.

• 35:41Hannah Berner?

  And yeah, she didn't have to, at one point she was like, do you want to talk to a boy?

• 35:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:47Hannah Berner?

  When I dated my super religious football player that I talk about in the special, we did have a moment. He literally was like, you have to come to Bible study with me or like, I don't feel like you're like a good enough person. And I was like, wait, but I'm, I'm trying to make good decisions and be kind to people just out of my heart. Not because someone's telling me to.

• 36:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Exactly.

• 36:07Hannah Berner?

  And he, like, his brain like exploded. I'm like, you don't actually need someone to tell you to be a good person. That's just how I was raised and what I'm trying to be.

• 36:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like people that are bad people, like really, really bad people, they know. Like, they know they're bad people because like if something happens in front of you and your immediate reaction isn't like to help that person or check on that person, you're, you're a bad person.

• 36:32Hannah Berner?

  But also I do think religion really helps people.

• 36:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, of course.

• 36:38Hannah Berner?

  A lot of ways, but I just don't like when people.

• 36:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Did anyone see Giggly Squad discussing religion?

• 36:44Hannah Berner?

  This is a crazy, this is a Fife Bice podcast.

• 36:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know what?

• 36:47Hannah Berner?

  This is a Fife Bice podcast.

• 36:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Would you consider yourself, what's your religion?

• 36:53Hannah Berner?

  Mormon?

• 36:55Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like honestly?

• 36:56Hannah Berner?

  So I say that I'm agnostic, which means I'm not saying I don't believe anything. I just like know that I don't know what's happening.

• 37:08Paige DeSorbo?

  But what were, did like, did you make your confirmation?

• 37:11Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 37:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you make your first holy communion?

• 37:14Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Yeah, I had a little dress. But my parents wanted us to be raised like knowing about a lot of different religions. But like, my class was so diverse, like.

• 37:24Paige DeSorbo?

  So you've never been like, oh, I'm Catholic or oh, I'm Jewish or you just say.

• 37:30Hannah Berner?

  I would joke that like I'm half and half, but like we weren't really celebrating much. It was mostly my Italian Nana being like, it's Christmas and I'm like, this is fucking awesome.

• 37:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:40Hannah Berner?

  Also, my Nana wanted me to text, let you guys know, when the Knicks won the other game, I said everyone was asleep. My Nana and Papa were awake and I called them.

• 37:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, Nana and Papa saw the one in the seventies.

• 37:52Hannah Berner?

  Nana and Papa been awake. Nana and Papa stay up, they party.

• 37:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Do they?

• 37:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah. Nana's up on her Instagram responding to people's DMs.

• 38:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, now I'm like, what is Nana's schedule? If you had to pinpoint a time that she's resting her head on a pillow, like 11:00 PM?

• 38:10Hannah Berner?

  Late. Like my parents are asleep by 10:00. Nana's 11:30 sending me DMs.

• 38:16Paige DeSorbo?

  No way. And what time do you think she's waking up?

• 38:19Hannah Berner?

  Good question. I know that she wakes up, she does her exercises, then she calls Rosemarie and they gossip.

• 38:27Paige DeSorbo?

  You think she's waking up at like 7:00 AM or like 9:30?

• 38:30Hannah Berner?

  I don't think 9:30, no. I think she's awake. I don't know. I guess, yeah, I feel like you need less hours of sleep.

• 38:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I need to know Nana's schedule.

• 38:37Hannah Berner?

  We need to know. We might have to get her on.

• 38:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:40Hannah Berner?

  Oh, my final thing that the Mormons say, I guess they don't say God, so they say, oh my hell, oh my hell.

• 38:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't pick up on that.

• 38:49Hannah Berner?

  They love saying, oh my hell. And I'm like, that doesn't come off the tongue easy.

• 38:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my hell.

• 38:55Hannah Berner?

  But like when you're raised where everyone's saying, oh, my hell, that's just what they say. Oh, my God hits a lot, a lot harder.

• 39:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I say, oh, my God, literally every other sentence.

• 39:04Hannah Berner?

  But like they don't say God's name in vain.

• 39:07Paige DeSorbo?

  The wedding I went to this weekend, the, I think she was the maid of honor, whatever, she spoke for the bride. She started, she would know, she was doing a prayer. She started it out, dear God, me again. Like said her name.

• 39:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And I just thought it was-

• 39:23Hannah Berner?

  Like she's leaving a voicemail? Hey!

• 39:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I just thought it was like so cute and like fun. Like she found a way to make the prayer. Like she had to get up in front of everyone. She found a way to like make it a little funny.

• 39:33Hannah Berner?

  She's like, some other people are, you're on speaker.

• 39:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I just thought it was so cute.

• 39:41Hannah Berner?

  No, I love that also, by the way. I pray.

• 39:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you? Okay, interesting.

• 39:47Hannah Berner?

  Like not fully committed, but every now and then I just have a moment where like, honestly, I pray when something good happens to me. When something good happens, I just go, thank you, whoever.

• 39:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you say, okay, so I was gonna say, do you say, dear God? Or like?

• 40:00Hannah Berner?

  I feel like I say that, I'm like, God, Jesus, whoever you are. You're my girl, thank you. Like when something really good happens, I feel like euphoric. I always feel like there's like-

• 40:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:11Hannah Berner?

  Something going on that's bigger than me. And I like to acknowledge like-

• 40:15Paige DeSorbo?

  That this was not just me.

• 40:17Hannah Berner?

  Or it's just like thanking life, you know? Like, thank you, life, for this moment. And then like in two seconds, I'm annoyed with something.

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 40:24Hannah Berner?

  It's very, very short.

• 40:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I do feel I, I would classify myself as like pretty religious.

• 40:31Hannah Berner?

  No, I know.

• 40:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:32Hannah Berner?

  My blonde best friend. Haley Nicola. Haley's like super religious.

• 40:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Haley's very religious.

• 40:40Hannah Berner?

  But I love having friends who have different like perspectives than I do, because it's boring.

• 40:44Paige DeSorbo?

  100%.

• 40:45Hannah Berner?

  No, no, you're super religious. Also, Kim prays for the success of Geekly Squad every day, and that's why we're here.

• 40:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Kim prays all the time. You got any prayers from Nikita? I told you the story when I like went through her prayer journal one time.

• 40:58Hannah Berner?

  She's a prayer journal.

• 41:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my God, yeah, we were like, where were, we were somewhere together. Oh no, I think she was just like at my apartment for like the week.

• 41:05Hannah Berner?

  Of course she does, because she's Kim Shakespeare de Sorbo with her feather pen.

• 41:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm just like, no, her handwriting's so good. And I'm just like going through her prayer journal and all I see is like, Gary, Gary.

• 41:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, oh.

• 41:19Hannah Berner?

  Wait, you can't go through a prayer journal. It's like going through her literal.

• 41:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you kidding? Hannah, I've been crazy from a young age. I used to, I used to go through my own dad's phone. Like when he got a cellphone, I'd be like, yeah, let me see. And I would go through his own text messages. And when I'll never forget one day asking my mom, like, do you ever go through dad's phone? And she was like, no, why would I? You do it for me.

• 41:44Hannah Berner?

  Wait, so she's on your email, you're on Gary's phone plan?

• 41:49Paige DeSorbo?

  We know no peace at that house. We know, everyone knows everything about everyone.

• 41:54Hannah Berner?

  She is Russia.

• 41:55Paige DeSorbo?

  The second my brother leaves her house, she's on the phone. She goes, you'll never guess what he said.

• 42:02Paige DeSorbo?

  We, all we do is talk about the four of, four of us with each other.

• 42:06Hannah Berner?

  See, my dad like still can't figure out how to post an Instagram story. So my mom and I literally are like, how does he even use his phone?

• 42:14Paige DeSorbo?

  The one day my dad like deleted a text and I go, why'd you delete that? That was like a new conversation. And he got like confused and he was like, well, it said I had no storage left anymore. And I was like, okay, you're lucky. Cause I was like, oh, you learned how to delete a text message. Like what was in the conversation?

• 42:31Hannah Berner?

  Who taught you that? Someone cooked here.

• 42:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And he was like, what?

• 42:35Hannah Berner?

  Also, I saw a TikTok from Trixie Mattel, who's randomly like David Attenborough, talking about birds. How scientists did a study where they let birds FaceTime each other. So like a bunch of birds, the birds are FaceTiming each other and using their little tongues. And they're calling, like the ones that are calling more birds are getting more calls back. So like they have like a full social system. They're recognizing like.

• 43:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Different birds?

• 43:06Hannah Berner?

  Yes, these birds, birds are literally like key keying on FaceTime. They're like, they have best friends.

• 43:12Paige DeSorbo?

  What kind of birds?

• 43:14Hannah Berner?

  It was, it looks like a like, it wasn't a parrot, but it was like a parakeet type thing. I don't know. Like.

• 43:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 43:20Hannah Berner?

  They literally like, they're bonding with each other. They're like picking the birds they like more. They're bullying each other. But like, they're recognizing the bird's owners. Like it's, birds are really out here being smart as fuck. And that's why I'm like, are the pigeons okay? Like these pigeons are not give, getting what they need to be the best versions of themselves.

• 43:43Paige DeSorbo?

  My Aunt Pam used to have a pet parakeet and her name was Lovey. And she, she was like, this is my favorite pet like I've literally ever had. Like, it was like the sweetest bird ever. And this is like really morbid, but one day I asked her like how, I mean, the bird was alive for like maybe like seven years, maybe 10, I don't know. This was years ago. This, we're going back like 20 years ago. And one day I really wanted to know how she knew it died. And she said that it was literally standing on its perch and it just.

• 44:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because it's not funny.

• 44:22Hannah Berner?

  And it's not funny.

• 44:23Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's not funny. I'm not making fun of the death of animals.

• 44:27Hannah Berner?

  Why is it giving Shrek when she starts singing really high and the bird pops? No, wait, now I want a bird.

• 44:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Butter would be like, are you fucking kidding me? Like Butter would have to murder the bird. That's like in their nature.

• 44:40Hannah Berner?

  This is how deep in our friendship I am. I woke up, I had a dream that me, you, Daphne and Butter were hanging out. And then I looked and Butter, and Daphne was bleeding. And I was like, oh my God. And I'm petting, I'm like, Daphne's bleeding. And you were like, are you sure? And I'm like, Butter, Butter scratched her. And I'm like, had to talk to Butter. I said, Butter, she has an agent, she has a manager, she has a team. You're gonna get sued. You can't act this way. I know she probably said something that pissed you off, but like, you're gonna get in trouble now.

• 45:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Her hind legs are actually insured.

• 45:13Hannah Berner?

  Like J Lo's butt.

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• 49:54Hannah Berner?

  I'm also on a crazy algorithm. Have you seen the Jojo Siwa cruise?

• 49:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 50:01Hannah Berner?

  Paige, I watched one video and now I'm getting, everyone's TikToking from the Jojo Siwa cruise.

• 50:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Where is it? Like where, what's the route?

• 50:10Hannah Berner?

  I don't know the route, but I do have to say the reviews are incredible. Like 10 out of 10. Everyone's like, this is the greatest cruise of my life.

• 50:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, that makes me so happy for her.

• 50:21Hannah Berner?

  I think it's because it's not like that many people. So Jojo Siwa is literally like talking to everyone. Like they're giving each other gifts. Like it's like this community and these are not like, these are like 30 year old girls going on this cruise. And they just love Jojo Siwa. They're getting the best gift bags.

• 50:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, they grew up with her.

• 50:39Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 50:39Paige DeSorbo?

  They watched Dance Moms, yeah.

• 50:41Hannah Berner?

  And they, they talk about how like Jojo gets so much online hate. So to see her doing what she loves is so beautiful. And you know what?

• 50:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Hell yeah.

• 50:48Hannah Berner?

  Hell yeah.

• 50:49Paige DeSorbo?

  That makes me really happy for her.

• 50:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 50:52Paige DeSorbo?

  My algorithm is I keep getting two nuns.

• 50:55Hannah Berner?

  Oh, with the podcast?

• 50:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:57Hannah Berner?

  Sister, what's your favorite hobby?

• 51:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Sister, I don't have a hobby.

• 51:02Hannah Berner?

  Sister, I've seen you playing ultimate frisbee and sister, you are good.

• 51:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally stopped and was like, this is me and Hannah on a different timeline.

• 51:14Hannah Berner?

  Wait, imagine if we were nuns.

• 51:17Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a difference between sisters and nuns. I didn't know that.

• 51:21Hannah Berner?

  What's the difference?

• 51:22Paige DeSorbo?

  One legitimately devotes their entire life to praying for you. Like there are, and I think that's a nun. I'm going to make sure though. Like there are nuns somewhere right now in a church praying for like you. Like they pray for everyone. Like that is their job.

• 51:42Hannah Berner?

  There's factories of prayer where they're mass producing prayer. It's like the sheen of prayer.

• 51:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like a clickbait farm, but it's like a click for prayer.

• 51:54Hannah Berner?

  I love how you're like religionist my whole life. No idea between a nun and a sister.

• 51:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I had no idea there was a difference. A nun lives cloistered, which is like focused on just prayer. And then a sister lives an active life. So like if you had a teacher, they're a sister, which I did not know that.

• 52:16Hannah Berner?

  So, but it sounds like it's a little rectangle square.

• 52:19Paige DeSorbo?

  A nun takes solemn vows, a sister takes simple vows. So like a solemn vow.

• 52:25Hannah Berner?

  Can a sister have a boyfriend?

• 52:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, neither of them can.

• 52:28Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 52:30Paige DeSorbo?

  So like if you're a sister, you have a, you live a regular life, you go have a job. But if you're a nun, you're all about prayer.

• 52:37Hannah Berner?

  I would love some stats of like how many people their entire life are part of the sisterhood. Is that what they call it?

• 52:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Sisterhood of the traveling pants. And they also have a traveling skirt that they send back and forth to each other. No, I wonder like if you become a sister or a nun, I wonder how many of them do it for a certain amount of years and then are like, see ya.

• 53:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like I wonder like, what if I wanted to like be a sister for a year, like Paige and I try new things?

• 53:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I actually, I want to say that I graduated high school. I'm gonna have to ask Stephanie. But I want to say that I graduated high school and a girl went.

• 53:18Hannah Berner?

  To the nunhood?

• 53:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, to the nunnery, like went to become a sister. I think my mom actually might have like even thought about it.

• 53:25Hannah Berner?

  Tried to get you to be a nun?

• 53:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, thought about it like for herself. I feel like I have to ask her.

• 53:30Hannah Berner?

  I feel like every, there was an age for Italian women where it's like you become a nun or you get married. Which one do you want? There's no in between.

• 53:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:38Hannah Berner?

  They were like, choose Jesus or a guy named Joe.

• 53:43Paige DeSorbo?

  My second grade teacher was, her name was Sister Sheila, and she hated me.

• 53:52Paige DeSorbo?

  She hated me so much. She was so mean. I'm not kidding. She was so mean to me. I was like stupid, so I didn't know when people were being mean to me, I'd have to go home and tell my mom about it.

• 54:04Hannah Berner?

  That's kind of like me and you, though. I feel like I get home from something and I tell you how someone talked to me and you were like, you didn't say anything bad.

• 54:11Paige DeSorbo?

  What? Hold on.

• 54:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Say verbatim what they said to you. No, so many times. It's funny with our friendship because like, obviously we're from reality TV, so like I've seen whole dissertations about you like on the internet before and like, like there are so many things that I've wanted to comment where I was like, I will come to your home and kill you.

• 54:34Hannah Berner?

  I do say one thing, I'm not a fighter. Like my family never fought. I'm not fighting with my brother. I don't fight with people. I don't fight with my friends. I'm, I'm more of like, I, I run away from any conflict. The only fights I've had is like on the tennis court, which is like, that's just sports.

• 54:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You're not confrontational.

• 54:53Hannah Berner?

  No. So like on TV, those were like the only fights I've ever had in my life, which is why I think when like a man would yell at me, I'd be like, does anyone else see this?

• 55:03Hannah Berner?

  I was like, I've never been spoken to. Like this is my, this is insane. This is crazy.

• 55:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Where I feel like people have been mean to me my whole life.

• 55:11Hannah Berner?

  Like when someone yelled at me, I was like, I'm calling the police. I'm calling the police.

• 55:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. Like if there's a woman now, we're women, that's mean to me. I'm like, you're not my first mean girl. Like the, think of something new. Like you are not my first situation where like you're being a bitch to me. Where I feel like for you, when we were on reality TV, there were a lot of things where you're like, that's my first.

• 55:39Hannah Berner?

  That was my first time. And I'm, and I'm fighting with seasoned veterans. Okay? Like I remember the first time I had approached someone about something, I was shaking. And then, but also I've also been like bullied a lot growing up. Like we're similar in different ways where like, people talk shit on me for sure, but my dad was always like, speak with your racket. Like speak with your, it was very like, do not address the haters. Like I've never had to sit in a room and like talk to someone who I knew like wanted to destroy me.

• 56:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, where like I, when I see, if I see like a rumor about myself or like something that's just like categorically false or whatever, I'm like, yeah, the like, people have been making up rumors about me since I was in sixth grade, like.

• 56:21Hannah Berner?

  And you've like confronted people.

• 56:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and I'm just like.

• 56:24Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I've never confronted.

• 56:25Paige DeSorbo?

  But also I haven't too. I'm like.

• 56:29Hannah Berner?

  It depends.

• 56:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's some times where I'm like, well, I don't even know you. So why would I confront?

• 56:34Hannah Berner?

  But that's why I feel so performative because there's like cameras everywhere and you're like, let's see how this goes. And then you're like, oh, and even like boyfriends, I never fought with boyfriends. It was more like, no, I never fought.

• 56:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I've made a whole sport of it.

• 56:48Hannah Berner?

  Paige, when I tell you like, yeah, I've had, I've definitely had my fights, but it was, it was like someone would get up and leave. There was never like name calling. It never would escalate. And it would be like, it would happen once or twice. And then I'm like, and I'm done here.

• 57:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:04Hannah Berner?

  Or like someone would get mad and the other one wouldn't.

• 57:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:09Hannah Berner?

  It's like our friendship. Like, how many times have me and you off camera?

• 57:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Never, never.

• 57:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the thing, I do think that you get to a certain amount of years with a friend that like.

• 57:29Hannah Berner?

  You just can't do it anymore. Like.

• 57:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you both have to bow out. No, we're like, we're at a point where like, for us to not be friends again, we would have to do something to the other one.

• 57:43Hannah Berner?

  Diabolical.

• 57:44Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so fucking crazy that it was.

• 57:50Hannah Berner?

  Someone would be like trying to self sabotage something.

• 57:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, yeah.

• 57:54Hannah Berner?

  But I would argue because we're so close that it would be us, there would be a sit down and we'd be like.

• 58:00Paige DeSorbo?

  We'd catch it first.

• 58:01Hannah Berner?

  Are you okay?

• 58:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:02Hannah Berner?

  What's going on?

• 58:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:03Hannah Berner?

  Also, we can just, it is really a relationship where it's two people. It's like, if we didn't want to make this work, we could have ended it immediately.

• 58:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 58:13Hannah Berner?

  Like.

• 58:13Paige DeSorbo?

  We choose each other. Wait, I was at a wedding?

• 58:16Hannah Berner?

  You heard the vows and you thought of me?

• 58:18Paige DeSorbo?

  There was a moment where she was like, someone was saying something and I was like, and in my head, I thought, that's true of friendship also.

• 58:26Hannah Berner?

  You raise your hand, you're like, sorry, real quick.

• 58:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, because it actually is very true of friendship. You have to actively choose that person every day and be like, that is my friend and I'm going to treat her like my friend.

• 58:39Hannah Berner?

  Period. And it's almost like Mormon wives where I like to watch to see like who starts hating people, like who's the villain? And I realized like the villain is who just everyone decides they're over. Because if you look at what actually was done, like so many things were done by so many people, but it's the thing that everyone decides being like, that's a thing that we're not forgiving you for. Cause no one wanted to like that person.

• 59:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, everyone's done bad things before and everyone's been mean to someone. Everyone's made someone feel hurt. Like you're alive. That's like what it is supposed to be experiencing life. It's how you change. Or if someone says you hurt my feelings, it's how you apologize and don't do it again. Like that is a whole part of life. You're supposed to make mistakes so that you become a better fucking person.

• 59:25Hannah Berner?

  In these shows, like people will straight up apologize and people like, I don't believe you, but then someone else will apologize and they're like, we know we love you. And that's why also in like a reunion, when the girls are all yelling at each other, I'm like, but you did that to her too. And you're yelling at her about it.

• 59:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right. Well, reality TV has to be hypocritical because then they wouldn't have a show. Like everyone can't have the same stance and storyline every year. You have to switch it up or else it would be boring. So a lot of the things people get in trouble for, they've done. The accuser has done. It just rotates.

• 1:00:02Hannah Berner?

  It literally rotates. Um, there is a crazy documentary out on HBO right now called Paradise. P E A R. And it's this guy who during COVID.

• 1:00:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, anytime someone brings up pears, I think of Rick Ross and I just Sorry. There's just a video of Rick Ross. I'm not kidding. This is like 15 years old and he just says shout out to all the pears. Like, like an actual pear. Like, he's like, I love pears.

• 1:00:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And anytime someone talks about pears, I just think like

• 1:00:41Hannah Berner?

  Also, pears are so underrated. Like, I love a green pear.

• 1:00:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I'm not someone to grab a pear from a fruit basket and bite.

• 1:00:50Hannah Berner?

  Arguably, the best bite is the fat part of a pear.

• 1:00:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I probably haven't bit into a pear in 15 years.

• 1:00:58Hannah Berner?

  This is an old pear.

• 1:01:02Hannah Berner?

  That I left on my podcast desk from two days ago.

• 1:01:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow. Do you, how, are you eating a lot of fruit during the day?

• 1:01:08Hannah Berner?

  No, I went, I'm like at home for like a week, so I tried to go grocery shopping and I bought like tons of fruit and I got home and I ate a pear and that was about it. And I don't

• 1:01:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I never buy pears. Interesting. Okay, keep going with what you were saying.

• 1:01:21Hannah Berner?

  So, this guy during COVID, he's like this nerd from Berlin. And he goes to America and he decided he want to get rich. So he invents this thing, you know, this is so bougie, but you know, I guess convertibles, you can't put your convertible up while you're moving. So he invented something to help, whatever.

• 1:01:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause got the bitch.

• 1:01:45Hannah Berner?

  The rich people can't, can't stop it. So, he buys this mansion in Vegas and he starts telling people, I love plus-size women. And I created this thing called Paradise, P E A R. He thought he was like so slick for it. And he's like, I want to create a community where women can be themselves. And I want to be your friend. Come live with me. And he's, he's has this obsession with women who are like over six feet and over 500 pounds. Like, that's his like type. So, these girls who have felt

• 1:02:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Over 500 pounds? Are there that many people that he's finding that are over 500 pounds?

• 1:02:27Hannah Berner?

  Well, with the TikTok algorithm, it's like these girls who have felt like outsiders and low self-esteem are like this guy is creating a community where I'm the norm. So you walk in and all the girls have the same body type. And, I mean, they're all, it's so funny, they're all gorgeous. I'm like, funny, you found like those beautiful women. And Over time, people are like, he's a creep. Um, and then there's this concept called feederism. Are you aware of feederism?

• 1:02:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:02:58Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 1:03:00Hannah Berner?

  I actually wasn't that familiar, but it's actually like really dangerous. It's like a kink where men like to watch, I don't know if it's just men and women, but people like to watch people eat and have their body change. So like they get turned on by women eating and their stomach getting bigger to the point they want the person to eat so much that they like can't walk.

• 1:03:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, this, wait, this feels really illegal. This feels like a weird type of abuse.

• 1:03:28Hannah Berner?

  But these girls can go on these sites and make money where men will watch them eat and like get bigger. But then girls can die from feederism because they're like need money, but then they're eating so much that their body shuts down.

• 1:03:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 1:03:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. So anyway, that's on HBO.

• 1:03:51Hannah Berner?

  It's crazy. It's crazy.

• 1:03:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Funny way if you're trying to take the edge off tonight. Maybe throw that on. Um, okay.

• 1:04:05Paige DeSorbo?

  We really, today was weird.

• 1:04:07Hannah Berner?

  Today was weird. I feel weird. You feel weird, but that's a good way to.

• 1:04:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Today was really weird. Wait, the last thing and then we'll leave it on that.

• 1:04:16Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:04:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Tyra Banks suing Netflix. Did you see that?

• 1:04:21Hannah Berner?

  I feel like she should do her own documentary.

• 1:04:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:04:26Hannah Berner?

  Instead of fighting with Netflix because that has to be expensive.

• 1:04:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm just interested to follow the story.

• 1:04:32Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:04:33Paige DeSorbo?

  She's suing them for defamation.

• 1:04:35Hannah Berner?

  It's annoying because she was in it. So that's why she probably feels like she can't just do it her own. But I would argue like, yeah, do your own. We'll watch. Let's, let's hear your side.

• 1:04:45Paige DeSorbo?

  All I do is watch she be. So yeah, send it to me.

• 1:04:48Hannah Berner?

  Her argument was like, Jay Manuel was saying like, I didn't visit him in the hospital. And she was like, I lived in Australia.

• 1:04:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, Kelly Cutrone was on a podcast recently and I saw a bunch of clips on TikTok and she was like, are you kidding? You're gonna make a documentary about how Tyra was awful? She gave you relevance, jobs, full careers, and you're gonna sit and make a documentary about how she didn't like? I mean, she was really Team Tyra and really against...

• 1:05:20Hannah Berner?

  J. Emmanuel. I do think too, it's easy to be like, Tyra's the worst and everyone else were like innocent angels that were just like along for the ride and it's like, that's not, that's never the case. Lastly, I just want to let you guys know, apparently you could reorder your grid on Instagram. Have you seen this?

• 1:05:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No. Is that true, though?

• 1:05:38Hannah Berner?

  I have it on mine that like, but I don't love it because it's like too many options. Like, I feel like you are gonna be like obsessed with it and like changing your grid every five minutes.

• 1:05:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Can we hang up and can you like FaceTime me how you're doing that? Because I need to know that immediately.

• 1:05:53Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 1:05:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You've created a monster.

• 1:05:56Hannah Berner?

  So you're gonna like, no, like you're never gonna be available again.

• 1:06:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I have to go.

• 1:06:02Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I'm reorganizing my grid.

• 1:06:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I'm working on my grid right now. Someone DM'd me and was like, your grid's really good right now. And I was like, period.

• 1:06:10Hannah Berner?

  Period. We love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling and have an amazing week. Bye.

• 1:06:20Hannah Berner?

  Hey, it's Hannah and Paige. Thank you so much for tuning into Giggly Squad every week.

• 1:06:25Paige DeSorbo?

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