Spencer Pratt Loses Lead + Trump's 'Meet The Press' Walk Off

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down President Trump walking out of an NBC interview, Spencer Pratt losing momentum in the Los Angeles mayoral race, the latest Iran war developments, World Cup labor strikes, Lewis Hamilton’s comments on billionaires, YouTubers outperforming Hollywood at the box office, and Trump’s appearance at the NBA Finals. ------ 👨‍🍼 FATHER'S DAY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/43TmZmD 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: ⁠https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD⁠ https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: ⁠https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw⁠ https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 02

  My sun dried, yeah. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Folks, hope you had a great weekend. I know we went yesterday. This was the horror weekend for us. We watched Obsession last night, scary movie. I don't think I've laughed this hard.

• 0:38Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean laughed this hard?

• 0:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie will tell you, I was laughing so hard.

• 0:42Adam Sosnick?

  At a horror movie?

• 0:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It was so funny for me.

• 0:45Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 0:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we watched Backrooms on Saturday. We'll talk about that. There's a story talking about how YouTubers are taking over the world and they're taking over media. We'll talk about tonight. This guy who happens to be the 45th and the 47th president is going to Knicks game and the Knicks are up 2-0.

• 1:02Adam Sosnick?

  Crazy.

• 1:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Crazy.

• 1:03Adam Sosnick?

  2-0!

• 1:04Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, if they, so imagine he goes and the Spurs win and they come back and win. Do you know what happens to him in New York?

• 1:11Adam Sosnick?

  They're gonna blame it on him.

• 1:12Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna blame it on him. Yeah, if he goes and he wins, he may pick up 20,000 voters from New York.

• 1:18Adam Sosnick?

  Blame it on the rain, potentially.

• 1:19Patrick Bet-David?

  He may have some, but if the Knicks go and sweep the Spurs, that is a very interesting thing. On top of that, Spencer Pratt, yesterday, by the way, Rob, I sent you a video I want to show later on when we go through it. Remember the mayoral race when the night, which was June 2nd, Karen Bass came first place and then Spencer Pratt was number two. He had almost like an eight point lead on Nithya Raman and Raman cried as if she lost.

• 1:46Adam Sosnick?

  Concession speech.

• 1:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, not even the concession speech, but there's one now them celebrating that she is now advancing and she is gonna be ahead of Spencer Pratt and it's, it's just a mess. Guys, did you know, like this is the shocking part. If you remember last week on the podcast, I joked about being able to vote with your Bali Toyota Fitness membership. It was a joke.

• 2:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  It was literally a joke. Well, guess what? We're gonna show you on the California.gov website that you can actually go and vote with your gym membership. Tell me that the, I mean, you have to realize how ridiculous this is. And then this race car driver who is dating Kim Kardashian, who has won 105 Formula One races, who has won seven championships, he's sitting down with Jay Shetty and he tells Jay Shetty, I have a problem with people being billionaires. It's too much money. This is the same guy that moved to Monaco to not pay taxes.

• 2:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:40Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the same guy that moved to Monaco. This is the same guy that drives around four million dollar cars and wearing these purple outfits, which nobody cares. Nobody cares that you're doing any of this stuff.

• 2:49Adam Sosnick?

  Isn't he worth hundreds of millions of dollars?

• 2:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He's worth a half a billion dollars.

• 2:52Adam Sosnick?

  He's worth a half a billion?

• 2:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He is worth a half.

• 2:54Adam Sosnick?

  Lewis Hamilton?

• 2:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why he's worth a half a billion? Because he's very good at what he does and there's nothing wrong with that.

• 2:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, that's great.

• 2:58Patrick Bet-David?

  If he was worth 10 billion, if the market thinks that's what you're worth, go for it. But he's going out there saying, I don't think there should be billionaires. Half a billion, yes, but not billionaires because there's a big difference between a half a billion and a, I'm noble, but you know, these billionaires, all this is just too much. Cry me a flipping river and go win some races, you know, instead of talking about all this stuff. Anyways, couple of other stories. Iran strikes Israel, okay? Then Israel strikes Iran. And I think Iran, I don't know who attacked who first. I think Israel probably attacked Iran first, if I'm not mistaken. Rob, can you correct me? Who attacked who first? Israel attacked Lebanon.

• 3:34Adam Sosnick?

  Israel attacked Lebanon.

• 3:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Then Iran attacked Israel, then Israel attacked Tehran. Am I saying that part correctly? Okay, so, and then Trump comes out and says, what are you doing? Again, can you imagine this is like that kid? The mischievous kid that like every single time you have to say, sit down, sit down, I said to you, sit down. And they still don't sit down. Bibi's that guy. He doesn't want to sit down and Trump is telling him, get out the way, let me do the deal. And then there was this interview yesterday with, uh, Meet the Press. I watched the whole thing. Did you get a chance to watch the whole thing? I didn't watch the whole thing. I watched the whole thing. Did you watch the whole thing?

• 4:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course.

• 4:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched the whole thing.

• 4:04Adam Sosnick?

  It was ruined by the rain. It took forever.

• 4:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, you can blame it on the rain all you want. Milli Vanilli, shout out. The challenge is that it ended with him walking out. And by the way, if you're in the AV industry, okay, you're an AV guy, you're an audio visual guy and you've done events before. You know what people got upset over? In that entire interview, you know what the president did at the end? Jake just whispered to me, right? He's been furious, been asking for PTO all day today. He stepped on the mic.

• 4:32Adam Sosnick?

  On the audio.

• 4:33Patrick Bet-David?

  On the audio mic. How dare you do that? But if you watch this interview when he walks out, Kristen Welker's like, I came all the way from Wisconsin. And the president said, it's flipping raining. And I'm walking out because you're talking some gibberish and then they left. But I think they're gonna do another one.

• 4:50Adam Sosnick?

  Did you watch the whole thing?

• 4:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched the whole thing.

• 4:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it was beginning to get.

• 4:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty-seven minutes or something. And Pentagon comes out and makes claims that the race threat of Israel spying on US to the highest level. Can you imagine? Like, they would never do such a thing, right? Mossad would never spy on other people, neither would CIA. And so the people that are surprised with that, we'll talk about that as well. And then we got a couple of other stories, hopefully we'll get into, that I really want to get into. Iran told to leave the US within 24 hours. Imagine, you're done with the game, World Cup. Game is over with. Alright, hey, what are you guys doing? No, you can't have dinner. Get out of here. Go to a different place. That's literally what's happening with Iran. Isn't that a shame that that's taking place? I mean, look, the president can do that.

• 5:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's one of the ways to force the negotiation to be done. I have a feeling he's pushing that agenda. So then Iran can come in and do it even faster. He's trying to use every card that he has. I don't know how much power this card has, but they are definitely using this card.

• 5:49Tom Ellsworth?

  They have at least one player defective every one of these international things going back 10 years.

• 5:54Patrick Bet-David?

  One player?

• 5:55Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I mean, like, each, each two-year cycle, there's been at least one player tried to defect.

• 6:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but I mean, look, you know, I don't think that's why he's doing it. You know, whether it goes into that or not, who knows? But it is something that they are talking about. Now, having said that, guys, let me, let me kind of give you guys what's going on. This is probably gonna be one of the greatest campaigns we've ever done, and I'll tell you why. It's because if you love your father, or if you love your grandfather, Father's Day is around the corner. And there's one statistic, guys, you know this, fathers, ladies, if you're watching this. We spend a lot. More money on Mother's Day than we do on Father's Day. We would like to contribute and get our great fathers out there to feel special and to do so, we did something very special for fathers. Today's the day to do it.

• 6:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And this item you're about to see is going to be limited to only 500, the first 500 that place the order. You'll be able to make other Father's Days. So having said that, watch this video dedicated to Father's Day. Go ahead, Rob. Folks, I don't know if you know or not, but every year we spend $10 billion more on Mother's Day than Father's Day. We don't get things for fathers. We forget about it. It's just a father. This year we're doing something special. We got a box for all great fathers in the world that says the future looks bright. And here it says father protector provider in the box. When that father, that special father opens it up, he will get a mug that says future looks bright with father protective provider. He'll get a future looks bright hat. They will also get a future looks bright RFID wallet.

• 7:27Patrick Bet-David?

  On top of that, a pen that says father protective provider and you get to pick and choose four shirts. For that incredible father, one of them is the best at ever with future looks right on the back. The other one will say father protective provider. The third one is raising leaders, building legacy. I love every single one of them, but the last one's going to be so special. You ready for this? It says grandpa knows everything. So if you got a grandpa, send it to him, let him open. He's going to be excited. We only have 500 of these boxes. If you want to get one of these for a special father, go to VTmerch.com, place the order before it sells out. Having said that, happy Fathers, everybody. Okay, so check this out, folks. Rob, let's walk through it so people know how to do it. You gotta go to VTmerch.com. This is how it looks.

• 8:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So everybody knows. So when you go to VTmerch.com, you click on the first package. Rob, go back one page so they can see how to click on the first package. So you go back, you click on the first one, Father's Day box right there. Click on shop now. Beautiful. Then you click on the first one, Father's Day box. Then when you zoom in, you pick and choose which shirt you want. So let's just say you want to do grandpa knows everything. You click on a plus one right there. Uh, Rob, go up and so you pick the size. Let's just say we want to do extra large. Okay, so that's that one. Now go to the bottom. You pick one of the two hats. If you want the white or the navy blue, let's just say you do white. If you want the grandpa days kit card, you click the grandpa, click on that one, and then at the end of the day, just place add to the cart. All the items are added to it, and you place the order. So go to VTmerch.com, place one,

• 8:54Patrick Bet-David?

  place two, place three. And by the way, you can also order 20 of the shirts and give it away to people, 10 of the shirts, and not even order the box. If you just want to order a shirt, you can do that as well. Go to VTmerch.com to place the order now, and make sure you do it the next couple of days. And on the bottom, it says the best investment a father makes is in his family. So let's invest into our families. Having said that, let's get right into it. First story I want to get into, Rob, I think it's fair to start off with the Kristen Welker interview. So the president decides to do an interview with Meet the Press Kristen Welker. She flies out to Wisconsin. Conditions are horrible. It is raining. It is pouring. If

• 9:36Patrick Bet-David?

  you listen to the entire interview, it's tough to listen to at times. Multiple times they had to stop for five to 10 minutes, and the president is still sitting there. This was one of the most viral clips on X yesterday because at the end abruptly, the president gets up and walks out, and I want you to watch this and say, was this the right move? Was it not the right move? The president called Kristen Welker a couple of words. So Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Let's react to it. Go for it.

• 10:00Speaker 05

  It was a dirty election, and it's happening again right now in California.

• 10:03Speaker 06

  You've never presented evidence that the 2020 election was rigged.

• 10:08Speaker 05

  Right now, it's looking, look at what's happening in California.

• 10:10Speaker 06

  Where's the evidence to that?

• 10:11Speaker 05

  It's four days.

• 10:12Speaker 06

  The Republicans are doing well in California.

• 10:13Speaker 05

  In California, it's, no, they're not. They're dropping fast because it's a rigged election. Let me tell you, it's four days, and they aren't even close to coming up with it.

• 10:23Speaker 06

  That's how they count the votes in California.

• 10:24Speaker 05

  You know why they're doing that? Because they're cheating on the election.

• 10:26Speaker 06

  There's, what, do you have evidence to support that?

• 10:28Speaker 05

  All I have to do is look. All I have to do is look. And I listen. And I listen to people. And let's see what happens.

• 10:34Speaker 06

  But sir, that's not evidence.

• 10:35Speaker 05

  Do you think it's appropriate?

• 10:36Speaker 06

  That's how they count the votes in California.

• 10:38Speaker 05

  Do you think it's appropriate that they have an election, and five days later, they're nowhere close to picking a winner?

• 10:44Speaker 06

  State and local officials acknowledge they are slow. They're urging.

• 10:47Speaker 05

  No, they're crooked.

• 10:48Speaker 06

  They're urging the votes to be counted quickly. That's how they vote in California.

• 10:51Speaker 05

  They're crooked, just like you're crooked. Your press is crooked, and Meet the Press is crooked.

• 10:54Speaker 06

  To be fair, I'm not crooked, but let's continue.

• 10:57Speaker 05

  Really? Well, you play right into their hands then.

• 10:58Speaker 06

  Let's continue.

• 10:59Speaker 05

  You're either crooked or you're stupid. You play right into their hands with this crap. You know that these elections are rigged. Your network knows that they're rigged. You know that I won an election in a landslide, and I got 94% bad press.

• 11:15Speaker 06

  But, Mr. President, you've never presented evidence. But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged. Let's keep talking about, I want to talk about Todd.

• 11:22Speaker 05

  You have more evidence, there's more evidence than ever presented.

• 11:27Speaker 06

  Let's talk about.

• 11:28Speaker 05

  Your elections in this country, we're like a third world country.

• 11:31Speaker 06

  But, sir.

• 11:31Speaker 05

  Your elections are crooked, and you're crooked, and Meet the Press is crooked.

• 11:35Speaker 06

  But, Mr. President.

• 11:36Speaker 05

  And so is ABC, and CBS, and CNN.

• 11:40Speaker 06

  But, Mr. President.

• 11:40Speaker 05

  Your one-sided, crooked network. So, let's call it quits, because I've had enough. Thank you, darling. Have a good time.

• 11:46Speaker 06

  Mr. President, let's, please, I travel all the way to Wisconsin.

• 11:49Speaker 05

  I've sat in the rain with you.

• 11:51Speaker 06

  I know. I travel all the way to Wisconsin.

• 11:54Speaker 05

  On and off in the rain, and I've given you enough time. You ought to straighten out your press, because you know what?

• 11:59Speaker 06

  Mr. President.

• 11:59Speaker 05

  A country can never be great with a dishonest press.

• 12:03Speaker 06

  Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin for the interview.

• 12:08Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. And the interview's over, okay? So now, when he's doing this, Tom, first of all, your reaction to this? Because she says they're gonna do another interview again. It was a long interview. It's not like they only did a five-minute interview. It was a good 40 minutes that they did an interview together, 35 minutes that they did the interview together. Tom, appropriate, inappropriate? Was she not being honest? How do you process it?

• 12:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, she's, you know, words talk, numbers scream. She was made moderator. That's exactly the question I was asking myself this weekend, Pat. I went and I looked. She was named moderator of Meet the Press in 2023, and in the middle demographic, everybody wants 25 to 40, I mean, 25 to 40, or whatever it is, to 54. I think it's 25 to 54. She's taken that show, not as moderator, it's now number one. You know, it's ahead of ABC, it's ahead of CBS. And so because she's number, that Meet the Press is now number one on the Sunday news show.

• 13:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You've given her credit, she's done well.

• 13:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the show has done well and she's part of the show, I'll say that. It's Meet the Press, but the show has done well and she's the lead moderator. So she's gonna get the opportunity because they got the ratings. And whether you want to believe it or not, the people that are on the president's press team are gonna say, hey, you know, they're number one in the ratings, so they gave it to her. But the conditions were terrible. That must have been hell for the sound man that is working there because you saw they were in like, they were in a heavily, they were in a barn or something that had been decorated.

• 13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It wasn't for the sound that he walked out.

• 13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, but I'm saying that's a tough situation to put together a professional piece. But, you know, she took this, this angle that the media takes that I have issue with. You are not congressional, um, you know, you're not there for a congressional hearing. You're not there to make accusations go straight down, you're not there to do that. You're there to have an interview with the President of the United States and maybe ask some tough questions. But I think when you cross the line there and you triggered him. And you triggered him and he, he went off. And the backstory is, we're seeing stuff happen in LA, I'm sure we'll get to that in a minute. But my take on it was, you know what?

• 14:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't, I don't agree with the way she, she, Tom, she is, she knows exactly what she's doing and that's her job. She works for a freaking, a network that absolutely despises Trump. Do you think she likes Trump? Tom, do you think she likes Trump? She hates him.

• 14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he called her a Democrat in the interview, she says, I'm not a Democrat, I'm a journalist.

• 14:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you catch that part?

• 14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, give me a break, and the boy, the fact that the, he's even giving you the time. I would be done, he, he doesn't need to even talk to these people. Okay, and then you, she knows what she's doing and then at the end she's like, but we, we came to Wisconsin, then why the hell you do like, be fair, okay? And it's not like he's lying. If you believe, if you believe that Joe Biden got 81 million.

• 15:00Speaker 07

  votes, then there's something wrong with you. He's the most popular president in the history, more than Barack Obama and more than Donald Trump. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. And it's as if you're challenging him for evidence as if he's gonna have his lawyer there to bring up all this stuff in Georgia, all the stuff, all the things that are in the courts, Pat, that a lot of these judges are Biden appointed judges and they're Democrat judges. And then January 6th, you mean to tell me on January 6th, that wasn't a setup with all the FBI, all the confidential human sources with Ray Epps and all the stuff that was going on to make him look so bad, Pat, that he's the one that provoked January 6th? When he said, be peaceful, go down there and you can protest. It's blatantly obvious what they did and I love that you said that, Tom.

• 15:42Speaker 07

  They're doing it, Pat, in plain sight and we're gonna get to California in front of our faces and we can't do nothing about it, nothing. California can't do nothing and we're so lucky because, Pat, Gavin Newsom is, but notice how he's quiet? He's the frontrunner. If they get in power, what do you think they're gonna make it on a national scale, this mail-in ballots? Do you remember in Georgia, Pat, they had these, all the drop-offs, Tom, the Sharpie ballots in Arizona? Everything, they cheated, but it's not illegal because, you know what she said? That's how California voting is. And do you think it's right?

• 16:13Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correct, and she doesn't even wanna ask the tough question on it. And this is a president that gets over 90% negative coverage from them. And my point was, she's acting like she's at a congressional hearing and he owes an answer for her out of a briefing book. It's a game of gotcha and she, despite the ratings and everything, so the people that are watching have seen the ratings move, but she is part of the media.

• 16:35Speaker 07

  Yes, she is, Tom.

• 16:37Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. Well, I watched the entire interview and at first, I think we sent a clip on our group chat. Yep. My first reaction was, wow, Trump really looks like a jerk here. And I said, let me actually do my due diligence here. And then I realized, this was the last two minutes of almost like a 90-minute rain marathon in what looked like a barn in Wisconsin. And the... The conversation turned, at least initially for the first hour, was very cordial. I mean, he was being fine. And then it kept stopping and starting because of the rain. So what we're seeing is the tail end of him being frustrated, annoyed, and just done with the situation. And that's what getting the headlines.

• 17:18Adam Sosnick?

  But what I was focused on was sort of the substantive arguments that he was making. And I'll go real quick. I have three little things here. So number one, he said, listen, we're close to a deal. And let me tell you something. Part of, if this deal doesn't come through, you know what I might do? She goes, what's that? He goes, I might blow the hell out of them. He goes, that's much easier to do, but I don't want to do that. But he goes, and then he kept saying, listen, this is 100 days. And he kept giving examples. He goes, Vietnam, we were in 19 years. And then she kept trying to correct him. Then, you know, he goes, excuse me, excuse me, 19 years. Like, what don't you understand? We're talking about three months versus 19 years in Vietnam. And he talked about Korea, and he talked about Iraq, talked about Afghanistan.

• 18:02Adam Sosnick?

  He goes, guys, it's been 100 days. Are you really playing this game that we don't have enough time? And that's why I think maybe he's not that concerned with the midterms as much as maybe we would suspect. Number two, it was so funny. It's almost like you would say this in the playground. He goes, you know, they did their blockade, and then we blockaded their blockade. And he goes, it's costing them how much? Almost a half a billion dollars a day? So I think he's just basically saying, we're going to squeeze them dry. He talked about him and Bibi's being on the same page. They do have some differences in how surgical they want to be in Lebanon. But we're very much on the same page. We get along very well. And then she kept pressing him on, you said no new wars, you said no new wars. He goes, excuse me, I never said that.

• 18:46Adam Sosnick?

  He goes, and in fact, why the hell would I put so much money into the military and try to build up our military so much if you thought I was never going to use them? Then he kept basically saying-

• 18:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's play this clip. Play the clip on no wars, Rob.

• 18:59Speaker 06

  What changed? Because you insisted no new wars.

• 19:04Speaker 05

  First of all, I didn't guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world? I built our military. I inherited a terrible military. We had no equipment. We had nothing. I built a tremendous military. Biden gave a lot of it away, but it's still a relatively small portion compared to what I built. But you said it over and over again, Mr. President. Why would I build a military? Now, I didn't want to use this, but I'm doing you and everybody else a big favor. In the midst of the greatest stock market in history, in the midst of the most successful country, because as you know, in the last time, we were dead country, Kristin. I know you, you're a big liberal. This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense.

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• 21:11Speaker 06

  I'm just a journalist.

• 21:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just a journalist.

• 21:13Adam Sosnick?

  Well, by the way, they cut it off right there. Here's what I think Trump believes more than anything. And he said this a few times, he goes, I'm doing the world a favor. Whether you like it or not, and then he said something very specific. He goes, I won the election. Why? Because the American people trusted my judgment more than anyone else. He goes, if they have a nuclear weapon, and then he made it personal. He goes, they'll blow you up. Kristen Welker, they'll blow you up. They'll blow up Meet the Press. They'll blow up everything. These are crazy people, but I like them. I get along with them well, but they're crazy. And he said, I'm the first president in 47 years who had the guts to do this. And that's kind of think where he is.

• 21:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And by the way, in the middle of the interview, they talk about jobs report.

• 21:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 21:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And, you know, she says, did you see the jobs report? Why don't you say the numbers? Go ahead and say the numbers. 172,000. What was that expectation? It was three times what you guys thought. So if it's so bad, why are we creating so many jobs? This is it, Rob. If you want to play this, go for it.

• 22:12Speaker 06

  You got a strong jobs report today that beat expectations.

• 22:18Speaker 05

  Not strong, really strong.

• 22:20Speaker 06

  Beat expectations.

• 22:22Speaker 05

  By how much? Triple.

• 22:24Speaker 06

  172,000 jobs created. You got a strong job.

• 22:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. But by the way, what's unfortunate is, and by the way, the media knows what they're doing. They put the worst clip. It's actually a good conversation and it's worth watching. Seriously, it's actually a good conversation. It's worth watching. But when Trump walked out, this kind of leads me into the next story with Spencer Pratt. So you guys know, we talked about it like a week ago and everybody was expecting him to advance with Karen Bass. And he was going out there, celebrating the picture with him and his wife. He had an eight point lead and everyone's looking at the chart. If you look at this, Rob, if you want to zoom in a little bit.

• 23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So the blue is Karen Bass, the orange is Spencer Pratt, and the green is Ramen. Now, watch what's going on here. June 2nd is election. Look at the difference in lead on where Spencer Pratt is. Look at the third and fourth, and then look at the spike. Look at the spike. So you mean to tell me, out of all those thousands of votes, now all of a sudden, they only want to do Ramen? That's insane. That's what they want to do? That's what you mean to, you want me to believe that? And it goes from 71,000 to 153,000. Look how Bass only goes up 30,000, but she goes up 83,000 votes, 82,500 votes. And during that time, only Pratt goes up 44,000 votes. And then they're catching up.

• 23:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And Rob, if you go to the new chart that shows Ramen ahead, you will see this. So this is what it's looking like now. Malin's arriving before election, Bass 38, Pratt 28, Ramen 20. Pratt's got a 28-point lead. Malin's arriving after election, Ramen 37%, plus 17. Bass goes down 3, Pratt goes down 9. You want people to believe this. Then there's another one, the, the, the, the, the voter, 83% counter translates. Not this one, Rob. The other one where the judge is talking about how they allow people to vote in, in LA. And I even send it to you guys. I think you have it, Rob. If you go through the notes, you definitely have, this is the one. Watch this.

• 24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So first go to the bottom for him to show the picture, because I think this is reacting to a picture. If you want to make this a little bit bigger. So he sends this in, talking about what's really going on. Sends it to Honorable Shirley Ann Weber, Legal Office of Secretary of State, State of California. And he goes back and go to the tweet, Rob. Let's go back to the tweet if you can, please. Okay, go all the way to the top. California is blocking. I spoke to Spencer Pratt last night. I said, why are they not investigating this? Well, California is blocking a federal audit of its voter polls. California allows first-time voters. Folks, you ready for this? This is not a joke. To register using forms of ID that most Americans would find surprising, including gym membership card. I joked about this on Friday and I said, I'm just joking.

• 25:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, guess what? I was fact-checked and I wasn't joking. Apparently that was true. In California, you can actually vote with your Bali Total Fitness Card. Can you imagine? You can go with your LA Fitness Card and vote. Employer ID, credit card or debit card, prescription drug label, insurance card. And if you think this is BS, Rob, go on the link, because I thought he's just BSing. Go on the link. So this is what website, Rob? Can we verify what website this is? SOS.California.gov. Okay? So go on that first point that says current invalid photo ID toward the party. Look at right there. Go a little bit lower, Rob. Look at A, driver's license, B, passport, identification card, credit card, military

• 25:55Patrick Bet-David?

  identification card, health club identification card, H. This is on their website, by the way. And I'm sitting there yesterday, I'm like, there's no way this has to be real. So if you go, if you go, Rob, right now and ask chat or ask chat GPT, what are the top five slowest states when it comes on to elections? And go to the top five fastest states when it comes on to counting ballots? Basic question, okay? And I'm asked this question on Grok, on chat, on pretty much everything I can, because I want to know, you know, chat can lean a little bit on the other side. Of course. So watch this, okay? Fastest states, Florida. How the hell does Florida do it fast? The gold standard.

• 26:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Texas. By the way, watch this. This is the other question I asked. Florida, red state. Texas, red. Georgia, red. Virginia consistently reports a large percentage of votes on election day. Carolina, red. Now go to the slowest states. Look at the slowest. Why do you think it's slow? California, known as the slowest, frequently the slowest major state accepts ballots arriving after election day. If postmark on time, extensive signature verification and provisional ballot review. Arizona, Nevada, Alaska, Pennsylvania. Yeah, I think four out of five of these states are all left, on the left. Why do you want it to be slower? So when you see the president getting upset with Walker, you're sitting there saying, maybe the guy's got an argument.

• 27:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Matter of fact, let me ask you guys a question. If, if, if, let's just say, Vinny. Tom, Adam, if let's just say, a party, forget whatever party it is, Tom. Take the Libertarian Party, take the Green Party, Vinny. Take the Democratic Party, take the Republican Party, Adam. You go hire the mob, the Italian mafia, and I'm talking old school. You hire them as consultants, and you tell them, hey, what can we do to increase the chances of winning every election we want? And not allow the other side to win? What would you advise us to do? What do you think they would say? Okay, imagine, you went to the mob, the mafia.

• 28:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you're asking criminals who do this for a living. What can we do to never lose elections again in our state? What do you think advice they would give you?

• 28:15Speaker 07

  The mob?

• 28:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What would they say is the first thing you gotta change? You know what's the first thing I would say? Do whatever you can to not require photo IDs. Check, we did it in California. Number two, make it as slow as possible, so we can count ballots afterwards. Check, allow mail-in ballots, and as long as possible, check. As long as you do this, don't worry about it, you'll have it under control. You're serious? Oh, yeah, you're gonna have it under control. And convince Americans that getting photo IDs is racist.

• 28:45Speaker 07

  Racist, brilliant.

• 28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Convince them it's racist.

• 28:48Speaker 07

  Got it.

• 28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And convince them it takes very slowly, it's just hard. Why, you're racist against blacks, you're racist against... And blacks are like, what are you talking about? I can get an ID. No, no, but it's racist, because these people don't like you. I'm telling you, they don't like you. That's why they're trying to do this. So then you look at charts, 69% of Democrats, you know what they want? 69% of Democrats want photo IDs for election. You know what the numbers for Republicans? 95, 96%. 83% of Americans want a flipping ID to vote. And then you want the American people to sit there and believe? That if you accept a gym membership, no, no one's cheating. No wonder the president got upset at Welker.

• 29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, should he have called her stupid or whatever? That's Trump's style, he's always been like that. That's a conversation that you can have. But no wonder he can sit there and watch in a state... By the way, as much as I take shots at people in California, you know I do. My Armenian and Syrian Persian friends, they message me, hey, you're not being fair, you're not doing this. You know what, if you haven't worked with me long-term, face-to-face, like in a company, you don't know my style. You only know me from the podcast and the relationships that we have. You don't know how I challenge, you don't know how I drive, you haven't been with me behind closed doors. Some people have witnessed how I do and what I do there. You don't think I want to see California flip? You don't think I want to see a mayor flip? You know how bad I feel for my friends in LA right now? You know how bad I feel for my friends in California right now?

• 30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how annoyed these people are? These are good people that have said, "I'm not leaving." And then you do something like this. And you want something to change with this? By the way, do you remember that one interview where Newsom's like, "Oh, we're not worried about the elections." And he had that smile? This was like three weeks ago?

• 30:30Speaker 07

  I've sent Rob the clip. You want to see how... And by the way, that's why he's been so quiet.

• 30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Breaking the glass.

• 30:35Speaker 07

  Oh, this is, Pat, this is the attitude of...

• 30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 30:40Speaker 00

  We all have agencies, we can shape the future. There's still a lot... Look, I've said this before, so I'll repeat it. I don't anticipate this need to be the case, but there is a break-the-glass scenario. And there's many people that have a deep understanding of what it would look like if Democrats were locked out, and we're gonna do everything to make sure that doesn't happen.

• 31:00Adam Sosnick?

  He's just saying the quiet part out loud. We're gonna do everything possible to make sure...

• 31:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Do something about it.

• 31:09Speaker 07

  Agencies could shape the future. And I'm tired of hearing, Pat, "Democracy." We're not a democracy, but we have lost the republic. If this is how it happens in front of our face, we can't do nothing about it, the government can't do nothing about it, and that's the frontrunner. That's the frontrunner of the Democratic Party, and if they win, Pat, and they come back in... I'm not stupid. I know the pendulum swings. You let them in power, the SAVE Act didn't go through because they have four Rhino... I'm not gonna say the word, Republicans that don't... They want to have power. And if I keep hearing this word "democracy," it's our republic. And at what point are Americans, the citizens, the 99.999% are gonna finally say, "Pat, enough is enough"? And I'm

• 31:53Speaker 07

  not saying we're complaining. No, we're trying to point out the obvious. They're cheating. You are cheating. In India, they have how many? 1.7 billion people? They know in one day. What the hell? We're America, and it takes weeks, and we're just... We're cool with it, and nobody on...

• 32:08Tom Ellsworth?

  The other side is saying that because their side is gonna win. They're quiet. They're quiet. And that's why Gavin Newsom's quiet because they know that they're freaking cheaters. Tom. All you have to do is go, absolutely. And you know, there's, there's two lines of thinking that are being driven on here. Voter eligibility and voter confirmation? Racism, right? Yeah, you're racist. And then what you have is controls, to have adequate controls over the election. And investigations and just confirmations. That's federal interference. You see? Racism and federal interference are destroying democracy. Maxine Waters said it. Just like that. So, guess what? This is what it is. You have to remember something here, guys. It's low tech.

• 32:53Tom Ellsworth?

  When you, when you increase technology, you increase the confirmations and you can increase the confidence. Now, technology isn't a voter tabulation machine that can be hacked and flip votes. We've seen examples of the voting machines you've seen as many over the years where they've said, this is an example of how this particular machine was flipped. No. The deeper you go in technology. Congress heard a presentation. This is a select committee heard a presentation on the blockchain, Pat. Hey, did you know you could just take every person who's a valid citizen? Put them on the blockchain, you'd know instantly did they vote or not? Not who they voted for, but did they vote or not? Everybody flipped out at that. Why?

• 33:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Because that's high technology, high confidence, high control. That's not what they want. You look at these blue states. Just keep counting until you get the answer you want. And it's destroying public confidence. And you're gonna see, I think you're gonna accelerate the people that are leaving. I talked to people last night in LA too. I asked them, what are you thinking about this? And they said, I'm shocked. Everybody has said the same thing. They said, you know, I'm really shocked. In plain sight, doing the, what you just said. Doing the quiet part out loud. It was terrible, Pat. Terrible. But remember, low tech enables it. When you go to ultimate high tech and blockchain, you control it. Nobody wants control. Everybody wants.

• 34:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Buckets of ballots that came here, coming into what appears to be orderly rooms to be counted, that were, we are ensuring democracy. No, they're not. They are controlling the outcome of what they call democracy.

• 34:33Speaker 07

  And Pat, now that, you know, we know what we're waiting for, Tom. The Supreme Court's ruling in Watson versus the Republican National Committee, it's a major case that could determine whether the states can continue counting mail-in ballots that arrive after Election Day if they were postmarked on time. And the ruling is expected at the end of this month, Pat.

• 34:48Tom Ellsworth?

  But it's gonna have major. That will only control the, the, the date and time that they bring in white buckets.

• 34:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 34:53Tom Ellsworth?

  So the Supreme Court will help. We need control, and it starts with voter validation, and then technology that validates that those voters that were validated actually voted once.

• 35:06Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, I don't know if you saw this article, what Gavin Newsom has done in response to the allegations. Basically Gavin Newsom has basically signed a law, uh, that, quote unquote, here we go, uh, here we go, Newsom signs law to shield California elections from federal interference.

• 35:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, there's that phrase again.

• 35:29Adam Sosnick?

  Basically saying, uh, we prohibit any person, including federal agents, from accessing voter rolls or election technology without a court order. But then in response, here's this article, uh, this is from The Hill, federal prosecutors opened fraud probes into California voting. So, uh, alleged voter fraud, multiple election fraud investigations underway, essentially what you said, there's serious structural vulnerabilities, specifically coming from two major components, mail-in voting and not requiring voter ID at the polls.

• 36:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way.

• 36:03Adam Sosnick?

  Verify that only eligible US citizens are registered.

• 36:05Tom Ellsworth?

  On the Newsom thing, he signed that on May 29th, four days. Before the election.

• 36:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Before the election.

• 36:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Four days before. Here's a video where he explains why he wants to go ahead and pass it so that the federal government cannot interfere is what he calls in California's.

• 36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, go ahead. Plus, watch the play.

• 36:22Speaker 00

  Trump all the time. He's an invasive species. We've never been against up against something like this. And he's just not, he's just winding up. I mean, he doesn't believe in fair and free elections. He believes in competitive authoritarianism. He wants an outcome along the lines of Putin. You know, 87.3% to 4.3%. It's a fair and free election from Trump's perspective. And he's, it's become so delusional that I think he's almost starting to believe in his own BS.

• 36:54Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I think the people of California have somehow believed his BS for the last decade. And, you know, he used, like, let's just be clear here. He used a very specific number. He said 87% Trump wants that. 4.3. Listen, Trump's best day is in the high 40s. Best day from a national electorate. And worst day is somewhere in the mid 30s. Gavin Newsom, who basically somehow passed a recall, I think, four or five years ago. This is all. Larry Elder. Exactly, Larry Elder. You know who I feel bad for? Can I be honest with you? Tommy. Because I'm very much pro Florida, pro Miami. I genuinely feel bad for the average Californian, and I'll tell you why. Because the top of the food chain, they can move someplace. If they're evading the wealth tax,

• 37:38Adam Sosnick?

  they'll go find another place to live. But the bottom of the food chain, the 50% of Californians are basically who are living on the social welfare state, don't have a choice here, are going to vote for the socialist communist. They're going to be fine because they're basically living off, living high off the hog. It's the average Californian who's looked like, I can't move because I'm damned if I do, if I damned if I don't. And they basically are, at some point.

• 38:03Tom Ellsworth?

  They're gonna have to say, all right, we've hit rock bottom. We're gonna have to pivot. Until then, get used to Democratic monopolies.

• 38:11Speaker 07

  But Adam, I know you want to move on.

• 38:13Tom Ellsworth?

  They almost had a candidate to be on the ballot. And the candidate, I believe, my opinion, we are watching it get taken away from them. They, there was, don't you see? I think there was a lot of Angelinos that were out there that got behind this campaign, that got behind these things. And by the way, for Rahm, you know, Pat, I got a question for you. What did Rahm do in the last week of the election? She backed off.

• 38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  She did a concession speech. She was crying on stage. Rob, can you play that?

• 38:42Tom Ellsworth?

  But she backed off.

• 38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's asking a very good question here.

• 38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  How does she surge?

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 38:46Tom Ellsworth?

  When she's backing off?

• 38:47Patrick Bet-David?

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• 39:21Tom Ellsworth?

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• 40:10Patrick Bet-David?

  This is like, you know she lost, okay?

• 40:13Speaker 06

  Los Angeles is the most magical city in the entire world.

• 40:17Adam Sosnick?

  This is like a concessions?

• 40:18Speaker 06

  Win or lose.

• 40:19Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the night she lost.

• 40:20Speaker 06

  I am so proud to be an Angelino and I'm so grateful to call this extraordinary city my home.

• 40:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, so she allegedly, let me just verify this.

• 40:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think that's an act. I think she really believed that and I think the machine wants Bass back and used her to get rid of Pratt.

• 40:39Adam Sosnick?

  That's election night. What are you actually saying about Pratt's?

• 40:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we'll go to Calci, no, Pratt's chances on Calci is...

• 40:47Adam Sosnick?

  Have they plummeted?

• 40:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you'll see right now. 1.2% of advancing.

• 40:53Adam Sosnick?

  Look at that. I thought it was still a 3.

• 40:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, Rob, do me a favor, go back.

• 40:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at them.

• 40:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back, how far back can you go on this, dates wise? Can you go back to one month? 78 million. Go to one month, just watch this.

• 41:05Adam Sosnick?

  Look.

• 41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at Pratt advancing, okay? Look at Pratt advancing.

• 41:09Adam Sosnick?

  And then look.

• 41:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, right after June 2nd, which was the day to vote, he's still ahead. And then he drops.

• 41:15Adam Sosnick?

  And look at that.

• 41:16Patrick Bet-David?

  All the way down and Rahmyn comes up.

• 41:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And, well, even Bass went a little bit lower, so you're saying that everyone who voted in that last 48 hour window, everyone voted for the contest?

• 41:27Speaker 07

  Are you ready for this, Pat? So not the B posted?

• 41:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Unbelievable.

• 41:30Speaker 07

  One of the best statements I saw.

• 41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  78 million dollars was placed.

• 41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Only Rahmyn's mail-in ballots were late, Adam? Only Rahmyn's mail-in ballots were late.

• 41:38Speaker 07

  So, when statistically impossible things happen, we should not be expected as a society to accept them. Evidence of fraud isn't limited to video surveillance. Statistical impossibilities are hard evidence of fraud. That was not the B posted it and Elon posted it, Pat. And this is, when we talk about the left, right, or whatever, they're willing to lie and cheat to come into power, that's why I'm saying, Pat, this is a spiritual thing. We're at spiritual warfare, because once they come in, Pat, what do they do? They open the border, they bring in illegals, our women and children get freaking taken advantage, murdered, or raped, and then they make policies for trans this and that. It's freaking evil. And what's a fine time, you're talking about these Angelinos, what could they do? What can you do? What? Go in the streets?

• 42:21Tom Ellsworth?

  So, we believe this is an election. They believe this is a revolution. And during a revolution, anything is permissible. And that's what you're seeing it here. You know, we believe that they're wrong and that we need to sit down and find a way to reason with the ones that are close to the middle and to bring them over. That's the spirit of this podcast. That's why you saw Pat on Jubilee. That's why all this stuff. They believe we're evil and any tactic is permissible to stop.

• 42:48Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, you're a California guy. What are you hearing from your people? Because at the end of the day, there's gonna be a socialist versus a communist, it seems, in this runoff. What are people in California saying?

• 42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so there are guys that are planning on moving to Florida and they've been waiting and waiting and waiting. Like, for instance, I'll give you an idea. My own family.

• 43:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of Iranians, Armenians, Assyrians left Iran a long time ago. When did your parents leave Iran?

• 43:15Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my God.

• 43:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What year? Because you were born in New York.

• 43:17Adam Sosnick?

  I was born in New York.

• 43:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So, how much previous to that? When did your parents leave?

• 43:21Adam Sosnick?

  In the 70s.

• 43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you text you? Well, it's too early.

• 43:24Adam Sosnick?

  No, she'll be up.

• 43:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what, what year you think you're? I think your parents left probably in the 70s.

• 43:28Adam Sosnick?

  Pre-revolution. 70, oh, early 70s.

• 43:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, you have to realize, there's different tiers of people that left Iran.

• 43:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  There are those like his parents who left early. Okay? Then there are those that left in 77, 78. The moment revolution started happening, they're like, "We're out of here." Okay?

• 43:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That was your dad.

• 43:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not, that's, no, no, no, not at all. No, they didn't. My mom was like, "It's gonna get better." So, my mom encouraged them to stay. My dad is saying, "Let's get the hell out of here." My mom said, "No, let's stay. It's gonna get better." Anyways, they stay. And then by 89, when Khomeini died and things got chaotic, we left. By the way, we are known as leaving the latest. We left late. Because they thought something good was gonna happen, right? And then we left. And we went to Germany and then we ended up coming here. Okay, you've heard this story a million times, so I'm not repeating that story. What does that have to do with California? There are people in California that don't want to leave. I had a call the other day, one of our clients. He sold one of his companies a few years ago for $300 million and he's about to sell a second

• 44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  company in Australia for $250 to $500 million. He's about to go public, money guy, good guy, sharp guy, family guy. And Australia just announced the capital gains tax, which I don't know if you're familiar with it. Our capital gains here is what, 23.9, something like that? 20%, I believe. But it's including the Obamacare, I think it's like 23.9 is what you're looking at. That's correct. And in Canada, they announced something that your capital gains could go all the way up to 47%. Rob, can you type in 47%? Higher than ordinary income? Oh, 47%. I want to say, there was something that came out that was 47. Australia, if you look up what their capital gains, potential rate of 47%. Okay.

• 45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, he's bringing this up to me that this is taking place. I said, what do you want to do? Do you want to fix it? Or do you want to go to, you know, Singapore? Do you want to go to Dubai where you don't have to pay taxes? He says, no, I want to fix it. I said, so you don't want to leave Australia? No. So you want to contribute? Yes. So what's the plan? I said, so how famous are you? Not that famous. I'm famous amongst business people because I've made money, but I'm not that famous. I said, well, number one, without the fame, you ain't, you know, it's not something you're going to be able to do. Without fame, it ain't the same. He says, well, what about if I first start off with Victoria, the state, which Victoria's kind of like California, and then from there go for national level, which is prime minister? I put him in, working on putting him in contact with the previous deputy prime minister for them to have a conversation together.

• 46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But what's the point? There are a lot of people in California and Angelenos that have been waiting and waiting and waiting. You know what tiers it's going to be? Those who move to a Republican county. So, I don't know, pick a Republican, they're going to go hide in Manhattan Beach. They're going to go hide in Newport Beach. They're going to go hide in, you know, Kern County, like Bakersfield. They're going to go to weird places like this, right? You know, shout out to... Move out of LA. Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. Then there are those that are going to do the easy thing, second easy thing, which is what? Go to Nevada. And they're going to do the 185, 175, which is live 185 days in Nevada to avoid having to pay the tax of California. Wealthy people can do that, right? The wealthy people can do that. The average person cannot do that. Then it's the people that are just going to be like, I'm moving out.

• 46:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm gonna go to Texas, or I'm going to Florida.

• 46:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Or I'm going to Tennessee, or I'm gonna go stay in Henderson, Nevada.

• 46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are the three tiers. So if this could, by the way, where's Hilton at right now, Rob? Can you look up Hilton's? Go to Hilton's Calshi.

• 47:02Adam Sosnick?

  I think he just got passed by Xavier Becerra.

• 47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Steyer passed him up?

• 47:07Adam Sosnick?

  No, no.

• 47:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't know. Becerra's got confirmed. He's in. Like, he for sure is first place. But Hilton is still 9.6%, which is fine, because as long as he's second place, that's all you care about.

• 47:19Adam Sosnick?

  And we should have a moment of silence for this guy, Tom Steyer. He just keeps pumping hundreds of millions of dollars.

• 47:23Patrick Bet-David?

  A hundred million dollars.

• 47:24Adam Sosnick?

  To get elected and the world is like, this is the guy, buddy.

• 47:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who else did that? Meg Whitman also did that many years ago. She ran as a Republican. I think former CEO of eBay, and she went through a different thing. So.

• 47:34Adam Sosnick?

  Correct.

• 47:34Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen here. At the same time, in the interim, while everything is going on, LA's got a massive strike. LA stadium workers vote to strike days before World Cup. This is a Wall Street Journal story. 2,000 hospitality workers at SoFi Stadium overwhelmingly voted to authorize a strike. Their union said Friday, the stoppage authorized by 96% of voting members occur at any time, though union officials made it clear that US national teams opening World Cup match against Paraguay on June 12 would be an opportune moment. If workers walk off the job, soccer fans who paid thousands of dollars to attend the match might have a hard time getting refreshments. Can you imagine you go into the game and you may not get drinks, Vinny?

• 48:16Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 48:17Patrick Bet-David?

  FIFA Soccer's governing body has recommended fans arrive three hours early for matches at stadium located just outside of LA, which suffers from parking, difficult parking and chaotic road access. Uh, there's a story here about, I guess soccer can be played if workers go on strikes, said Kurt Peterson, co-president of the local union in an interview, but someone paying $100,000 for a suite, and they're ending up getting bottled water and Doritos, I'm not sure that's what they're expecting.

• 48:43Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 48:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Local Global, the company operated concessions at the stadium, said it has presented progressive wage proposal. So they're kind of, so by the way, while this is happening, what was the story about Penn Station that five individuals got stabbed?

• 48:55Adam Sosnick?

  Five people were stabbed like right outside where the, uh...

• 48:58Speaker 07

  Where the World Cup is gonna be played. Actually, it just jumped up to six people.

• 49:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Six people stabbed?

• 49:05Speaker 07

  At Penn Station.

• 49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Six people stabbed that attack at Penn Station in New York. Suspect in custody as bus busy rail hub adjacent to Madison Square Garden. One day before the game three of NBA Finals. Obviously, these are two different things. We'll go into the NBA Finals. California's got to figure it out with this whole thing that's going on here. Tom, how ugly could this thing be if the strike goes through and it impacts some of the games?

• 49:26Tom Ellsworth?

  This is horribly ugly, but this is exactly what... And by the way, do you think Karen Bass cares about the World Cup? No, she cares about Karen Bass. And she cares about winning the election. And she's gonna come out there and say, "President Trump and the World Cup..." You're gonna mark my words. You're gonna see her associating it that way. And she's gonna say, "These workers got what they had long deserved." You know, you're gonna hear that. That's her Marxist side of it. I think, Pat, the World Cup organizers have done a horrible job. You need to go to city by city by city and clear all the things that need to be cleared. Otherwise, you just run into it like this. Did you know in Mexico, yesterday, what happened?

• 50:09Tom Ellsworth?

  They are so worried about fighting at the World Cup. They said it's possible that they will not allow beer to be served, you know, at the World Cup stadium that's in Mexico. Did you see that? And then A.B. Inbev and Modelo, they're like, "Wait, what? I thought we paid for some advertising here. You're telling me we can't do it?" And I think what this is showing is gonna be ugly in L.A., but the World Cup organizers have done a hellaciously bad job of putting it together. Look at the PR they've gotten hit with. They allowed tickets on a lottery system to actually go out in bundles of 10. Immediately, they went to the stalker markets at tens and thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Number one.

• 50:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Number two, they point out that the security protocols are even worse than the American Super Bowl. Wait a minute, how's that possible? The American Super Bowl is a huge target. And they managed to get people in and out. Why wouldn't they say, "Hey, Roger Goodell, NFL, who are your security people? You hold the Super Bowl in a different city every year, and you managed to get people in and out safe, and you avoid problems, and you haven't had a terrorist attack." That hasn't happened. And then now they go to LA that, you know, hey, you've cleared your union, right? Your union's good to go here. You talked to the union leaders? We don't, we don't need any trouble. Nope. They come out and the union leaders strike. The people aren't striking. They're greenlit by the union leaders. And then Mexico loses

• 51:31Tom Ellsworth?

  control of the, the populace, which isn't surprising. And suddenly now they're like, well, we can't serve beer, can't do anything. And you have major sponsors and patrons saying, wait, I can't go get a beer and go a World Cup game? It's just, they've lost control of the whole thing. This isn't, so far, Pat, tragically, unfortunately, this is like a D minus for the organizers.

• 51:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 51:52Adam Sosnick?

  I blame PBD. I'll tell you why. Cause wherever PBD leaves, the state gets better. Have you noticed that?

• 51:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The state gets better?

• 52:00Adam Sosnick?

  Better? You leave and the state that you go to gets better and the state that you left were...

• 52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 52:05Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry about that, Pat.

• 52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I was about to take that one too.

• 52:09Speaker 07

  Got my good mom.

• 52:10Patrick Bet-David?

  My pal.

• 52:10Adam Sosnick?

  I know you've been wearing those shoes for the last 100 days. Adam, Adam, it's too early for one of your backwards arguments.

• 52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 52:15Adam Sosnick?

  What I'm saying is this, I remember when you did a, uh, this would have been in 2020. It was my Tito's. You did a, um, a board episode about, I think it was Disney.

• 52:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 52:23Adam Sosnick?

  California versus Florida.

• 52:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 52:25Adam Sosnick?

  And the way that the governors of California and the governors of Florida basically managed it.

• 52:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 52:32Adam Sosnick?

  Ultimately, what I think is this, we're seeing the rise of the Sun Belt great states of Florida and Texas, and we're seeing the demise of California and New York. These, these, these amazing states and these amazing cities, New York City, California, LA, San Francisco even, the greatest cities that, that the world has ever known. And sadly, they're no longer being that case. So we're going to see this. You can revisit this in a few years. Between New York and LA, when you have the Maldonys, the Hokels, the Basses, the Newsoms, and then in Florida and Texas, you have the Abits, the Cruises, the Santas, and we're going to see what happens with Byron Donalds and Jay Collins here in Florida.

• 53:15Adam Sosnick?

  Florida is the future, Texas is the future. Unfortunately, LA and New York are the past and relics of what was once great in America.

• 53:23Speaker 07

  Well, let me ask you a question, Adam.

• 53:24Tom Ellsworth?

  But the future of LA and New York is social Marxism, and I think that's terrible and it's happening.

• 53:28Adam Sosnick?

  Well, let me, let me just say one thing, just before we finish off. You remember the story, I don't, I don't know if we covered it last week. California loses its Fortune 500 crown to Texas. Samsung left, I think, New Jersey for Texas. In a symbolic blow to the California, Golden State's longstanding economic dominance, Texas, Texas officially dethroned California as the state with the most Fortune 500 companies. So it's already happening. California's beauty is no longer the reason to stay in California.

• 53:57Speaker 07

  But at one point, okay, ready for this? California failed, New York failing, failed. Okay, all the, we're gonna, people are gonna keep moving to Florida or Texas. But at what point are the people gonna go, you know what? No, why the hell should we leave? We like it here, we live here, we grew up here, my family's from here. Whatever happened to we the people? To hell with them, like what? What was, people are just gonna keep giving up. Everybody's gonna leave California, who's gonna be stuck there? People just, rich people that don't wanna leave because they have the money to fricking deal with the nonsense, but they love the weather. You gotta fight for it, or this is America. To hell with them.

• 54:29Adam Sosnick?

  I appreciate everything you're saying.

• 54:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 54:31Adam Sosnick?

  And there's just one word that, that encompasses everything. Choice. You have a choice to stay, you have a choice to leave.

• 54:37Speaker 07

  But apparently they don't, Adam, with the voting, they don't have a choice.

• 54:40Adam Sosnick?

  Hear me out. Yes, I understand there's a lot of frustration. You have a choice to stay and fight it, like they, the guy in Australia.

• 54:46Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 54:47Adam Sosnick?

  Or you have a choice to say, you know what? I'm done with this thing. And that's the beauty of the federalism system, system in America. Is that if you don't like it, leave. Or if you don't like it, you can, you can stay. What do they say? Flight, fight, flight or freeze? What do you always talk about with that, Pat?

• 55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep. Fight, flight, freeze. But we, look, numbers never lie, man. California is losing Fortune 500 companies. We're gonna see what's gonna happen. By the way, staying on the World Cup story. Iran demands, just so you know, the story comes out, Iran told to leave the US within 24 hours of World Cup matches as coaching staff visas are denied. It's kind of a weird story there, but I understand why this is happening. So let me read this to you. Rob, I think you got a clip on this one here. Okay, Iran has been told they must enter and leave US soil on the same day of matches while integral members of their coaching staff have been denied visas. The countries, is this it, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it.

• 55:38Speaker 07

  Opening game of this World Cup is here in Los Angeles against New Zealand in just nine days' time, but it says key members of its managerial, executive and technical staff have been denied visas. The US State Department says all of Iran's players and necessary members of its support squad will be allowed entry, but it also says it is not going to allow Iran to quote "abuse this system to sneak terrorists into the United States under false pretenses." Now Iran is-

• 56:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so when you're seeing that, by the way, their matches are LA, Seattle, they were due to stay in Tucson, Arizona, but now will fly in. They can either enter the morning, but they must leave the same day, said their Iran envoy, Abol Fazi, Passan De Dehe. They added that Iran would not be allowed to abuse the system. However, Iran's embassy in Turkey said visas have been denied to a large portion of the managerial and executive staff and accused the Americans of politically biased interference in sport. They claim visas have been denied to a large portion of the managerial and executive staff. Iranian state media claimed that the head of football federation and his deputy were among those denied entry. Iran's opened their World Cup, like he said in there with New Zealand and

• 56:48Patrick Bet-David?

  California on June 16, before facing Belgium and Egypt in California and in Seattle. So this kind of a publicity stunt, or it could be a part that, you know, the US is just trying to protect of anybody coming in town. How do you process the story?

• 57:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, a couple sides to it. First of all, the US State Department is trying to prevent them from sneaking people in here. Oh, technical assistant and everything. It's pretty clear that's what they're saying they're trying to do.

• 57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 57:14Tom Ellsworth?

  That they're calling it that. Oh, I'm not going to give you a visa because we're calling it that. The other side of it is, I think they don't want the players to have a amount of free time to maybe to connect with other players from other teams, other countries, or, you know, decide that maybe they want to defect, because defections have happened from the Iranian team. You go back years and everything. There's always one person or somebody wants to get out. We had the women's team, they were worried that they were, remember, they were worried about that, hey- Oh yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 07

  Some of them stayed here.

• 57:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they're like, yeah, if I miss a penalty shot on the field, later I get a penalty shot from an AK-47. So it's not what I want. And so you've got guys like Mehdi Turemi, who, by the way, could play on any team, anywhere in the world if they, if they had him on rental, you know what I mean? Just like they do UEFA and Champions League. And nobody wants them to it. So that's what I think, Pat. I think there's two things going on here. Good from the State Department, but I think the other side is it's obvious, and given the chance, some of those players would want freedom.

• 58:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, makes sense. I want to get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Lewis Hamilton. And then we'll get to the Iran story as well here in a minute because we got a bunch of different things to go through. Lewis Hamilton is sitting there doing a podcast with Jay Shetty. And he makes comments about billionaires. Now, keep in mind, before you watch this, this is a guy worth a half a billion dollars, dating Kim Kardashian, who drives fancy cars, who allegedly moved to Monaco to save taxes. To save on taxes. He moves to Monaco. Here's what he had to say to Jay Shetty about billionaires. Go ahead, Rob.

• 58:52Adam Sosnick?

  One of the things that I'm like, I struggle with every day is, and it's just how life is, and it's been the way for thousands of years, that there is such a disparity between wealthy and the poor. And, you know, you still, when you drive around LA, there's still so many people living on the streets. You shouldn't be able to have billions, right? I think there should be a limit to how much you can have because there's enough to go around to everyone. So somehow creating a law that creates more equality. Yeah, and equal access for everyone, you know? I don't know how that you would implement that law.

• 59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  That's all good.

• 59:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, by the way, Jay Shetty just got a hundred million dollar podcast deal from Netflix. And by the way, well deserved.

• 59:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Good for you.

• 59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Every penny. I hope he gets a billion dollar deal.

• 59:36Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 59:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Hamilton dates a girl who's worth a couple billion dollars.

• 59:40Tom Ellsworth?

  1.9.

• 59:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's the other part to be thinking about, Rob. If you want to go to my tweet at Hamilton, I just, I was hoping to get a, you know, get him to think about this a little bit, go a little bit lower right there. I said, hey, aren't you worth a half a billion dollars? Who's stopping you from giving away your wealth? And on top of that, here's a guy that's won 105 Formula One races. You know who's won more races than him? Rob, can you pull up who has won more Formula One races than Lewis Hamilton? Can you just pull up most Formula One races ever won? Tom is just like, salivating to answer because he's just going a goose egg. Because you know what the answer is? Nobody has won more Formula One races than him. No one, not Schumacher, not Verstappen, Verstappen eventually may, not Vettel, not Prost,

• 1:00:24Patrick Bet-David?

  not Senna, not Alonso, not Mansell, not Jackie Stewart, not Jim Clark, nobody. Why are you so greedy? Why don't you let the other guy go ahead of you? Like at the end, you're such a greedy racer. Like, I mean, the guy's like, let me, this guy's never won a race, let him go win one for his family. Haven't you won seven championships? Isn't that too much? Just win one. Why win another one? After one, you should just relax and enjoy yourself. You know, why are you so competitive? Why are you so greedy, Lewis Hamilton? Why? Why did you move to Monaco to avoid taxes if you're so noble? Why, why you do this? Now, here's the thing. I don't know this guy. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm sure he's a good guy. I'm sure he's somebody that probably takes care of his family.

• 1:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sure he gives away money to charity. I'm sure he started a charity and gave $22 million of his own money to it. It was a write-off as well, but I'm sure he's doing charitable work. I'm sure he does a lot of stuff like that. But the part of it that makes it annoying is here's a guy getting off his $10 million yacht. Look at this, Rob, if you want to zoom in a little bit, if you can, with his purple outfit, which I love. He's a fashion, you know, he's like Gandalf, that's his yacht. He gets off, which by the way, I love it. That's his car. That's a $4 million car, if I'm not mistaken, maybe even a little bit more than that. Okay, FYI, he has deserved all of this. Do you know how hard it is to be a great race car driver?

• 1:01:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 1:01:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know how hard it is, even though this new guy just won five consecutive races at 19 years old? Tom, if you want to tell us who just won five races in a row, what's his name?

• 1:01:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Kimi Antonelli, who, Toto Wolff, the lead at Mercedes, hired Kimi to take over for Lewis, because the last race Lewis won was in July of 2024, in the middle of the season. And he really, as he was getting older, he was losing his skills. It happens, it happens. He's still Lewis Hamilton, but then Kimi was put in his seat.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  In a row at 19 years old. By the way, the record for the most is 10 in a row. Max Verstappen did it at 25 years old. Let's see if this kid's going to do it or not. But there is nothing wrong with all this messaging. Vinny, when you hear a Lewis Hamilton type Say what he says, how do you process it?

• 1:02:28Speaker 07

  Well, Pat, these people always want to save the world with everybody else's money and not theirs. And on top of all that stuff, Pat, he has a one point, stop buying the watches. He has a 1.5 million dollar watch, you just saw him get off this boat, that's his. He's from, he lives in the UK, but he's going there to save freaking money. And I think, Pat, and I wanted to pitch you this idea afterwards, I think we should start a program for these champagne socialists. And Tom, you'll help us, because you know, BDC Consulting, you guys might help me put it together, Pat. We'll call it Wealth Relocation Services. You call us, well, you know, we helped rich liberals finally live the lifestyle that they preach online. We'll take all the yachts, all your money, all the bank accounts, we'll give you $80,000 a year. You know, put you in a one-bedroom apartment with roommates, a 2008 Prius.

• 1:03:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And then we'll relocate all your wealth.

• 1:03:14Speaker 07

  All your wealth, well, come to us at ValueTainment at BDC Consulting, no assistance.

• 1:03:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't worry about it, you don't have to tip the movers, we'll take care of it.

• 1:03:21Speaker 07

  We'll do everything for you, give us your money, take off your Gandalf, you know, your robe. No private security, no private jets, which he owns, just equality. But you know, the funniest part is, none of them would do it. He's sitting there, yap yap yap yap yap, you're a hypocrite. Just say, you know what, I feel bad, but you know what I'm going to do? I'm gonna take $100 million of my money and I'm gonna give it to them, to organizations. It's all, it's the same as Assam Piker and all these guys, socialism, communism, you're rich. Start with you, you start it, start the cause, lead the charge.

• 1:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:03:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I, I agree with that. Here is a guy that Kim and I traveled because we thought he was gonna win his first race, 2007 at Indianapolis. And I almost said, I said, you know what? Canada's a fast track and this, this guy is really developing. So maybe we should go up to Montreal and then go a week before and then go here. He wins his first race of all time in Montreal and he wins his second race of all time. So of all those races, we saw number two. And he was a different guy, his brother has disabilities. But as he's become more wealthy, guess what the circle, you can always find out, what do they say? Show me your five friends and I'll show you your future, it's something you say a lot, Adam.

• 1:04:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, guess what, he got around fashion. He got around music, the tat, he started getting more tats. And you just saw the change in him and even some of his fellow drivers made the comment that as he went up the arc and he was Lewis freaking Hamilton. One of the greatest of all times, if not the greatest in the mind of some statistically.

• 1:04:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Statistically.

• 1:04:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Great car.

• 1:04:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Is statistically, you know, by raw capabilities, a lot of other people would like to see Senna and him going head to head. But, um, and gone head to head with, uh, Schumacher. Put all three of them identical cars and just see how that shakes out. And it's just, it's disappointing. It's disappointing. And then to be so much in that bubble of your friends around you and yet as you like to say, Pat, who's in your ear? Who's in your ear? All those people in the bubble are in his ear. So it doesn't surprise me, he comes out on Jay Shetty and then he says something like that. It's like, wait a minute, dude, you've talked to a PR person. That reflection's not going to be good.

• 1:05:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Especially wearing a $9,000, you know, faux fur hat and things that you're, no, you're...

• 1:05:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Again, to me, I don't care. Honestly, I don't care what you do with your own money. You earned it.

• 1:05:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 1:05:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't care what you do with it. I don't care if you buy a house. I don't care if you buy a $50 million watch. I don't care if you buy a $10 million Pokemon card. I don't care what you do with it, but just don't go around bashing people that got a little bit more money than you do and saying I have a problem with, you know, billionaires. Stop it. Stop it. It is very hard to become a billionaire. It is very hard to become rich. It is very hard. Nobody just all of a sudden wakes up one morning, gets lucky and this happens. It's a lot of, you know, late nights, training by yourself, nobody's seen you. That's the most unattractive thing about this. Be the guy that other young men can look up and say, man, I want to be like him when I grow up. That's what I get? I get to, you know, have the cars, travel, the accolades, the victories? Go, let, let the young men and women fantasize about what it could be if I paid a price for

• 1:06:28Patrick Bet-David?

  something.

• 1:06:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, and his girlfriend, bro, your girlfriend's worth $1.9 billion. How do you think she feels about that? Yes, her claim for, her claim for frame was, you know, sleeping with a guy on camera, the mother allegedly brokering the deal and you became famous and she worked hard and now she has a clothing line and skims and all that stuff. She worked. I'm, I'm very curious what Kim Kardashian is sitting there thinking about her boyfriend sitting there complaining about her. He's complaining about her. Okay? Go tell your girlfriend to give up half of her money.

• 1:06:56Adam Sosnick?

  Well, look, I think the thing with Lewis Hamilton, it's just a symptom of a bigger problem. And this is something maybe the value attainment and Bet David consulting can help with is that all these rich people feel bad and apologize for being rich. Guys, you earned it. You earned what you received. Like until the day, come a day that they give compensation, not in money, then what else did he want them to compensate you with? Remember the movie The Wedding Singer? When he's taking classes? She's like, I don't have any money, so I'm paying you with meatballs. He's like, thanks. Yeah, unless meatballs become a way of a currency, you're gonna have to take money. And what happens is when you're really good at something, you're gonna, you're gonna win and they're gonna give you money.

• 1:07:39Adam Sosnick?

  Like the Olympics, the World Cup, they give you medals. You can't pay your rent in medals, unfortunately. You can't pay your bills with rings. You're gonna need money. And the richest athletes, the MJ's of the world, the Tigers of the world, the Messis of the world, the Ronaldos of the world, the Federals. These guys are all multi, multi, multi, hundreds of millions, billionaires even. Cause they're the best at what they do in the world. So stop apologizing for having success. Stop apologizing for excellence and having victory. Own it. You don't need to be a, I mean, dare I say like a douchebag. You don't need to be like a Meriwether and like walk around with money everywhere. But be humble, but be confident, but appreciate, I'm great at what I do and you can do. They have a messaging problem and they need to get better at that.

• 1:08:23Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to cover is Iran. So Rob, walk me through the sequence, okay? So the first step is Israel attacks Hezbollah in Lebanon. Then Iran attacks Israel. Then Israel attacks Tehran. Then Trump calls Bibi and says, knock it off. Is that the right sequencing on what I just said?

• 1:08:44Adam Sosnick?

  Correct.

• 1:08:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So that even takes place over the weekend. Trump suggests meeting with the Supreme Leader. Pending expectations and diplomacy, I think even in the Kristen Walker interview, he said to her that, you know, I wouldn't mind speaking with them. He said he is a young man. He is younger than his father, probably a little bit more diplomatic.

• 1:09:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it, Rob, about the exchange? Yeah, go for it.

• 1:09:08Speaker 06

  Are you talking about the son of the supreme leader?

• 1:09:11Speaker 05

  Well, he's a part of it, yes.

• 1:09:12Speaker 06

  He has not been seen in public. What is his status? Have you talked to him directly?

• 1:09:17Speaker 05

  I do believe they have great respect for him. I have, I see it. I mean, they want to get his concurrence. They've said to me, they've said to others that they're looking for approval, and he is part of the approval process, absolutely.

• 1:09:32Speaker 06

  Have you spoken to him directly? You said you want to meet with him.

• 1:09:34Speaker 05

  I have not. No, I have not. I would if he'd like to, but I have not spoken to him directly.

• 1:09:39Speaker 06

  Do you know where he is?

• 1:09:40Speaker 05

  I will tell you, they do.

• 1:09:41Speaker 06

  How he is?

• 1:09:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. They do pay homage to him. I would tell you if they didn't. They seem to, based on what I see, they seem to respect him a great deal.

• 1:09:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he's saying he's open to the idea. Tom, as you're seeing this back and forth with negotiations trying to take place, but is this it, Rob, with Israel and Tehran?

• 1:10:02Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, this is Iran actually striking an Israeli military base.

• 1:10:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And this the first time since April, if I'm not mistaken, right? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:10:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And did it get through?

• 1:10:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The timing of this on the plane right here is kind of a...

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• 1:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Israel. And then do you have the one Israel to Tehran?

• 1:11:41Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the first one.

• 1:11:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And then the one with Israel and Lebanon? Cause it's like three attacks that happened.

• 1:11:46Adam Sosnick?

  So I have Israel striking Iran, but I don't have the actual impact, just the aftermath.

• 1:11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. Oh, they recorded it after. And that's in Tehran.

• 1:11:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, sir.

• 1:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you recognize that street prompt that wrote? I've definitely driven past. You've definitely been there. I honestly would be curious to know what part of, so, so this is still going on back and forth. Adam, your thoughts on this back and forth with Lebanon, Israel and Iran and the president?

• 1:12:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, look, Israel has, everyone has different interests in what they're doing in the region. At the end of the day, this comes down to the United States and Trump and the Ayatollah. But there's a different situation going on with Hezbollah. I'm not, I'm no longer going to call Lebanon, Lebanon. I'm going to call them Little Iran. Because anything they do, their government has zero sway. Sway is what it seems. And everything has to go through Hezbollah. If Hezbollah doesn't want something to occur, they'll just object. Israel and Hezbollah are fighting a war right now. They don't want to call it a war. They want to say it's a ceasefire, but it's a ceasefire that stops and starts. But there's something deeper going on here. What is the religion of Iran and Hezbollah?

• 1:12:57Adam Sosnick?

  They're not just Muslim, they're Shia Muslim. Now, if you look at what's going on here, I'd be very upset if I was a Shia Muslim because Israel and the United States have taken out your top two leaders of all time. The Ayatollah. And Nasrallah in Lebanon. These aren't just leaders, they are the supreme leaders of all time. Imagine that your enemy eliminated both your top two guys and now you want to have peace with these guys? One of two things is going to happen. Either a deal is going to happen or there's going to be war. There's no in-between. Trump wants to get in and out of this thing. Israel's basically saying, hey, look, I hear you, but can you please tell these terrorists, these Shia militants, these Iranian proxies, to stop shooting missiles?

• 1:13:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, let me see what I could do. Turns out they're not going to listen. Turns out that they actually swore an oath to Allah to eliminate Israel. Do you think that any negotiation is going to stop Hezbollah from starting war in Israel? What I know about Bibi is he wants peace, but until there's peace that's done, he's going to blow your stuff up. So, remains to be seen what happens in here, but Iran does not necessarily want peace. They want to cut a deal. Who knows what's going on here? At the end of the day-

• 1:14:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran doesn't necessarily want peace-

• 1:14:15Adam Sosnick?

  No, because-

• 1:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They want to cut a deal.

• 1:14:17Adam Sosnick?

  Iran-

• 1:14:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Wants to cut a deal with US.

• 1:14:19Adam Sosnick?

  Well, there's-

• 1:14:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Israel wants a deal?

• 1:14:22Adam Sosnick?

  Israel does not want a deal unless nuclear is done. And then they stop funding terrorism.

• 1:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's even more than that. I don't think it's just nuclear. I think it's more than that.

• 1:14:30Adam Sosnick?

  They want them to stop funding terrorism.

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. They want the IRGC gone.

• 1:14:35Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 1:14:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Is what Israel wants.

• 1:14:37Adam Sosnick?

  But by the way, so do the people of Iran. Israel and the people of Iran have the exact same interests. They want the IRGC out of here.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:44Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you think the people of Iran are shouting Bibi June, Bibi June? At the end of the day, Hezbollah is an Iranian military wing that has basically taken over and terrorized Lebanon.

• 1:14:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, play this clip.

• 1:14:55Adam Sosnick?

  And Lebanon's held hostage.

• 1:14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what the president had to say about Hezbollah and Bibi. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:15:00Speaker 06

  You have openly said you've been frustrated by Israel's continued bombing of Lebanon. Are you and Prime Minister Netanyahu on the same page?

• 1:15:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, we are. We get along very well. We've been great comrades. We did a very, very big number on a certain country that was nothing but trouble for 47 years. I disagree with him on a couple of things.

• 1:15:24Speaker 06

  On Lebanon?

• 1:15:25Speaker 05

  I'd like to see Lebanon have a better life.

• 1:15:30Speaker 05

  I'd like to see a more surgical attack on Hezbollah. I think it should be more surgical. And we can help them with that, or we can recommend Syria. Syria is doing a very good job of cleaning up Iraq. They have a very good leader. They have a leader that's really done a good job in a short period of time, and he would love to help.

• 1:15:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so that's his position. Tom, what do you stand with this?

• 1:15:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I like the comment about Syria about trying to get other people that are interested in the outcome.

• 1:16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Interested parties, yeah.

• 1:16:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Interested parties to participate. But I think there's two things that are really clear. Adam said both of them with regard to IRGC. Israel wants IRGC gone, and they are going to continue to frustrate our attempts to get a ceasefire and a deal that doesn't include the just absolute crippling of IRGC in some way. That's Israel's objective. So Israel's got two objectives. Get rid of IRGC, and don't let the US stop things too quickly or negotiate for a deal that you don't necessarily want. That's it. And then try to get Syria to come in and help. And then Trump is trying to talk nice to Bibi to kind of smooth things over from last

• 1:16:47Tom Ellsworth?

  week, which I think we all believe happened. You know, you're effing nuts. He says, "You can't be doing it this way. You gotta, you gotta stay with us. You know, you're crazy." And, and he's not crazy. He's just frustrating you. He's frustrating Trump. But Trump, Trump is still the dealmaker, and he is still the alpha dog here, and he's trying to not navigate a way through it. That's...

• 1:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this one recognizing the crazy call, Rob?

• 1:17:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:17:14Speaker 02

  Now, Axios reported that you had a phone call with Bibi Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, in which you were angry with him. You said, "Are you effing crazy? What are you effing doing? I helped you stay out of jail." Is that true? Did you speak to him in those times?

• 1:17:29Speaker 05

  I did. I wouldn't say angry. I was a little bit perturbed at his...

• 1:17:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Perturbed.

• 1:17:37Speaker 05

  Constantly fighting with Lebanon. You know? At some point, I said, "Bibi, we gotta stop this. We gotta stop it." But I have a very good relationship. We've done well, done well together.

• 1:17:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He always says.

• 1:17:49Adam Sosnick?

  You can pause it right there.

• 1:17:50Speaker 07

  I didn't want there his relationship that he's talking about with BB is like watching a rich, powerful father deal with the spoiled son like the father gets mad, yells publicly, tells him to stop doing certain things, but the son knows deep down, he's never actually getting any real trouble, Pat, and he's never gonna get cut off. So he keeps testing the boundaries, keeps going because he knows the father at the end of the day, isn't going to do anything. I think that's what frustrates a lot of freaking Americans and I love when people are like, you guys all keep talking about Israel. No, it's because every time we turn, Israel's in the freaking news, fighting Trump. No, don't do this, do this, we're gonna bomb, we're gonna do it. It's it's this constant back and forth where the warnings don't seem like they have any real consequences, Pat. And one thing that bothers people, a lot of people are worried,

• 1:18:33Speaker 07

  Israel has nuclear weapons, okay? As much as everybody tries to tippy toe, it's funny how every other country who has nukes, Pat, has to be the non-proliferation treaty. You have to admit it, because we have to have sanctions, it has to be inspections. Why does Israel get a pass? Does that bother anybody? What's their red line? If God forbid they use one in this war because Iran does something crazy, then what? Then what happens? Oh, my God, a nuke went off in Israel. I'm I'm sorry, a nuke went off in Iran. Who did it? Israel, Israel doesn't have nukes. They're not, then what what game are we playing? And Adam, for you to say Lebanon is little Iran, forty percent of Lebanon are Christians, that have nothing to do with.

• 1:19:10Adam Sosnick?

  They used to be, buddy.

• 1:19:11Speaker 07

  No, no, yeah, why? Because they're all dead? Because they're getting bombed? No, it's, there's a lot of.

• 1:19:15Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean by that?

• 1:19:16Speaker 07

  You're saying that there used to be what? No, is right now Lebanon, it's thirty to forty percent Christian. There's a lot of Christians.

• 1:19:22Adam Sosnick?

  What did they used to be?

• 1:19:23Speaker 07

  Adam, I'm saying right now, you said it's little Iran. There's a lot of Christians there that aren't Muslim, that aren't even involved with any of this Shia or whatever, that are affected. And again, it's always going to be the people. And Tom, you talked about the IRGC.

• 1:19:35Adam Sosnick?

  But I don't, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

• 1:19:37Speaker 07

  There's a lot of Christian, you called it little Iran, there's a lot of Christians.

• 1:19:40Adam Sosnick?

  And then where, why are all the Christians gone?

• 1:19:42Speaker 07

  What do you mean? They're still there, they live there.

• 1:19:44Adam Sosnick?

  But but it used to be seventy percent Christian. Why is it all, why is it down to thirty percent?

• 1:19:49Speaker 07

  You tell me.

• 1:19:50Adam Sosnick?

  No, you're the one that made the claim. I'm I'm asking you. I know the answer.

• 1:19:53Speaker 07

  Why? Good talk. So tell me.

• 1:19:55Adam Sosnick?

  Before I give you the answer, I'd like to hear your opinion.

• 1:19:57Speaker 07

  Why are they moving, Adam?

• 1:19:59Adam Sosnick?

  Why would they want to move?

• 1:20:00Speaker 07

  But what my question is to you though. Yeah, because maybe there's bombs coming in, Adam.

• 1:20:03Adam Sosnick?

  From who?

• 1:20:04Speaker 07

  Maybe there's bombs coming in. What do you mean? Israel's on a freaking campaign bombing Lebanon. They're seizing land. It's not like, Adam, they're not strategically-

• 1:20:11Adam Sosnick?

  You think the Christians are leaving Lebanon because Israel's bombing them?

• 1:20:13Speaker 07

  I would, I would. Who's bombing, Adam? Who's bombing Lebanon?

• 1:20:16Adam Sosnick?

  How familiar are you with the history of Lebanon? And it's okay to say not much.

• 1:20:19Speaker 07

  I don't know that much. I'm just seeing what's happening in the news right now.

• 1:20:22Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Well, it's not, the Jews are not the reason, or Israel's not the reason that Christians are being persecuted in Lebanon. I'll give you one guess of who it is.

• 1:20:32Speaker 07

  Go ahead.

• 1:20:33Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you think it is? It's the same reason that Egypt used to be Christian, that Syria used to be Christian, that Iraq used to be Christian, your family is Christian, Assyrian. Who's running the country that you grew up in? Your family grew up in-

• 1:20:45Speaker 07

  It's always been Muslim.

• 1:20:46Adam Sosnick?

  Well-

• 1:20:47Speaker 07

  Iran?

• 1:20:47Adam Sosnick?

  Not always.

• 1:20:48Speaker 07

  What do you mean Iran?

• 1:20:49Adam Sosnick?

  It used to be Zoroastrian. You're not realizing one simple thing. The Christians are being persecuted by the Muslims. The, uh, the cop to Christians were basically taken over by the Muslims. Iraq, your people Assyrians, I'm shocked you don't know this, were taken over by the Muslims. It's the same thing that happened in Lebanon. Lebanon is the one country in the Middle East where they actually were like, look, guys, let's try to do this experiment. Let's have Christians and Sunnis and Shias all get together. And then the Shia was like, nah. Nah. We're gonna have a Hezbollah come in here and we're gonna ruin everybody's life, including the Christians, including the Sunnis, and these people in Israel, them too. So my correction for you is, learn your history and realize that the problem going on in Lebanon

• 1:21:34Adam Sosnick?

  is not Israel. There's problems there. Don't get me wrong.

• 1:21:37Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:21:37Adam Sosnick?

  But the reason the Christians are being persecuted is because of the, the intolerant, basically radical clerics and the Shiite terrorists that have taken over and hijacked their country, just like they've done in Iran. That's what's going on.

• 1:21:50Speaker 07

  Well, my question is, so the Christians that are there right now-

• 1:21:52Adam Sosnick?

  You understand what I just said?

• 1:21:53Speaker 07

  Yes. But so my question to you is, you still go to my point. The 30 to 40%, let's say almost 38%, that are Christian there right now, that their lives were just okay? They were just chilling? They're not getting murdered in Lebanon? Pat, I know people, by the way, the show that I'm doing today is with Jack, my friend Jack Jr.'s dad, they're- All from Lebanon. They're not under attack and everything. Right now, his family's worried because there's bombings coming from Israel and they're taking over.

• 1:22:16Adam Sosnick?

  Vin, I love you. I'm just gonna say this.

• 1:22:18Speaker 07

  Well, can I, can I finish?

• 1:22:20Adam Sosnick?

  What I want you to do, take a second, don't be emotional.

• 1:22:24Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:22:24Adam Sosnick?

  Do your research on what actually happened in Lebanon. Do you remember when the podcast, we had Brigitte Gabriel on?

• 1:22:29Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:22:30Adam Sosnick?

  Who is she?

• 1:22:31Speaker 07

  She's the Middle Eastern.

• 1:22:32Adam Sosnick?

  Middle Eastern, but what's her story?

• 1:22:34Speaker 07

  Adam, I don't, I don't know her whole story.

• 1:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  Well, come on, then don't comment on this if you don't know.

• 1:22:37Speaker 07

  Adam, I'm talking about what's happening right now, right now. Cause you said Little Iran. You think Christians that are sitting in Lebanon right now consider themselves Little Iran? Like, why would you call them Little Iran?

• 1:22:49Adam Sosnick?

  Because Hezbollah has taken over their country. I encourage you to watch what Brigitte Gabriel always says. She's a Christian, one of your people. Shout out to the Christians that was basically born in Lebanon and had to flee. She didn't, and where did she flee to? She fled to Israel because basically she was being persecuted for being Christian in her own country. So I encourage you, do some research.

• 1:23:11Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:23:11Adam Sosnick?

  Find out really the history of Lebanon.

• 1:23:13Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:23:13Adam Sosnick?

  Of why they've basically were a, the Paris of the Middle East. And now they're in this situation here during, with the Hezbollah takeover. I encourage you to do your research before you start just blaming it on the Jews.

• 1:23:24Speaker 07

  So who said, see, and that's how the argument turns.

• 1:23:27Adam Sosnick?

  That's literally what you said.

• 1:23:29Speaker 07

  No, no, no, no, no. You said Little Iran.

• 1:23:31Adam Sosnick?

  That's literally what you said.

• 1:23:31Speaker 07

  I blamed it, see.

• 1:23:32Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, watch this clip again.

• 1:23:33Speaker 07

  Do you see that argument that you just did? You see, you see what you just did? Blaming it on the Jews. That's where you take the, where did I say Jews or anything? No, no, I'm saying.

• 1:23:42Adam Sosnick?

  Blamed it on Israel.

• 1:23:43Speaker 07

  No, what did I blame on Israel? Israel.

• 1:23:45Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, I love you. I literally don't think you know what you're talking about here.

• 1:23:48Speaker 07

  Can I finish?

• 1:23:49Adam Sosnick?

  I think you're very clueless on this.

• 1:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are you at with this, Tom? Do you have anything to add here? Because.

• 1:23:54Tom Ellsworth?

  No, let's just, for people listening and they're listening to the debate.

• 1:23:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, forget about the people listening. I actually want you to think about what was said here. How do you, do you have any feedback to give them?

• 1:24:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, I do. I don't think there's, there's been a sweeping change of influence in Lebanon. But Lebanon, we've been looking into this. Lebanon was 60, 40 Muslim, Christian in the year 2000 with about 4 million people.

• 1:24:19Tom Ellsworth?

  It's now 70 30 with about six

• 1:24:21Adam Sosnick?

  Where was it before 2000?

• 1:24:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know, but

• 1:24:24Adam Sosnick?

  Very Christian country.

• 1:24:25Tom Ellsworth?

  But in 25 years since, they are now 70 30 Muslim with the 70% evenly split Shiite Sunni. I looked this up over a week ago and looking at it and saying, what's at play here? What's happening? But to your point, there is overwhelming influence over what's going there and dramatically increased persecution of the Christians who are there because Hezbollah.

• 1:24:51Adam Sosnick?

  By who?

• 1:24:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And

• 1:24:52Adam Sosnick?

  Hezbollah, exactly.

• 1:24:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I give you that.

• 1:24:54Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you.

• 1:24:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Who are they getting armed and influenced by?

• 1:24:56Adam Sosnick?

  Iran.

• 1:24:57Tom Ellsworth?

  It is by Iran.

• 1:24:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  But I don't think it's fair to call them little, little Iran. I think it's Lebanon being influenced by Hezbollah and I think that's where

• 1:25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran.

• 1:25:08Tom Ellsworth?

  And Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran, but the influence is there, but there's a bunch of, it's, it hasn't become like, you know, Minneapolis that became little Mogadishu.

• 1:25:18Adam Sosnick?

  I would argue it's actually worse than Minneapolis because they're not using bullets in Somalia yet.

• 1:25:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Minneapolis is worse than Lebanon with Hezbollah?

• 1:25:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm saying when people call Minneapolis little Mogadishu, they're making the same kind of

• 1:25:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, it's a, it's a play on words here.

• 1:25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Who funds Hezbollah?

• 1:25:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran.

• 1:25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Who funds Houthis?

• 1:25:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran.

• 1:25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Who funds Hamas?

• 1:25:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran.

• 1:25:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What, who funds ISIS?

• 1:25:42Tom Ellsworth?

  It then begin with H, but I'm still going to go with Iran.

• 1:25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So what, what chaos have those organizations created in the Middle East?

• 1:25:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's, it's dramatic.

• 1:25:53Tom Ellsworth?

  In the Middle East and beyond.

• 1:25:55Patrick Bet-David?

  The Middle East.

• 1:25:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And beyond.

• 1:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Specific to Middle East.

• 1:25:58Tom Ellsworth?

  It's, it's been, Iran has been the bank and the instigator of the chaos, pushing the Shiite side of all of the rebels to kind of to get together under the HHHI.

• 1:26:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know what conclusion I've come up with? With this or Israel and, you know, all the arguments? This is what the argument, the, the conclusion I've come up with. Those who can't stand Israel, you can't change their minds. Those who think everything is Israel's fault, like, you know, Vinnie said earlier, you know, why is it decreasing? Who's doing the bombing? And then he said Israel. Vinnie said that about 10 minutes ago, right? So if you think everything's Israel's fault, that's probably not going to change. Okay? If you think everything is Iran's fault, IRGC's fault, the extremists' fault, that's not going to change.

• 1:26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  My main concern is the people in the middle who are watching this, thinking to themselves, what the hell is going on? The reality of it is, you know, and I'm going to take a completely different angle, of those who don't trust Israel and Mossad and what they're doing, they also have a valid argument. Okay? To me, here's a story. Pentagon raised threat of Israel spying on US to the highest level, sources say. Okay? What do you mean they're raising, you know, Pentagon is raising threat of Israel spying at the highest level? And who is running Pentagon today, by the way? Is it Democrats? Is it Republicans? Who's running Pentagon today? Okay. Pentagon is increasingly concerned about Israel ramping up spying.

• 1:27:37Patrick Bet-David?

  US recently raising the counterintelligence threat level from America's top ally in the Middle East to the highest level. The Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency in recent weeks issued the new counterintelligence threat assessment amid raising, rising tensions between Israel and US over the way forward in the war with Iran, the officials say. They said the DIA posted an internal message viewed by one of the current officials that raised the level of Israel to critical. The designation stems from concerns that within the Pentagon that Israel is making particular effort to surveil top US officials to get information on the Trump administration's internal deliberations and decision-making on the conflicts in the Middle East. The DIA assessment includes, by the way, this is an NBC News story, a seven-page document

• 1:28:19Patrick Bet-David?

  and features a chart according to one, the current US officials, the document says assessment of Israel is that the ability to conduct human espionage and technical collection is at critical level, including the official. It also identifies a series of specific incidents that heighten US concerns. A spokesperson for the Israeli Embassy in DC said in the statement. that it is completely false that Israel spies on US Israel does not gather intelligence on American entities letter one US government officials the spokesperson said Israel intelligence collection efforts are aimed at enemies not its allies any claims to the contrary are either misinformed or politically motivated Adam do you think any of this is happening with Mossad spying on US uh officials

• 1:29:01Adam Sosnick?

  well if it is they should be held accountable and you should go to jail because it is fully illegal for any

• 1:29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  think it's happening

• 1:29:07Adam Sosnick?

  I have no clue I assume that there's Chinese people here I assume that there's Russian people here I assume that there's Israeli people here I would assume that there's MI6 here what spies do with spy

• 1:29:16Patrick Bet-David?

  do you think there's any spying going on from Mossad to take intel back so they know what's happening in the Situation Room negotiations

• 1:29:24Adam Sosnick?

  you're asking me do I think that spy agencies are spying yeah

• 1:29:27Speaker 07

  your ally is spying is what he's saying do you think the ally Israel is spying on the United States of America

• 1:29:32Adam Sosnick?

  are you trying to get me here like I'm saying like what are you trying to do guys trying to do here

• 1:29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  no no

• 1:29:36Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying that I think spy agency spy I'll just say this it is quote unquote ally this is chat GPT if you want to trust them uh under US law without US authorization it is illegal under US law and can lead to arrests expulsions of diplomats sanctions and criminal prosecutions so if you're doing something illegal in the United States spying whatever country you are you should be held accountable

• 1:30:01Speaker 07

  and do you think Israel will be held

• 1:30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  so then Vinny this is this is the this is so both of you guys have a blind spot we all have blind spots

• 1:30:07Adam Sosnick?

  tell me what my blind spot Vinny was completely wrong and I just read and I just read the law

• 1:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm with you on that

• 1:30:14Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny was not right at all

• 1:30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny's not wrong Vinny has an opinion that nobody can change his mind Vinny has been convinced Vinny's part of the community that believes everything's behind Israel

• 1:30:24Speaker 07

  I didn't say I don't I don't agree at all

• 1:30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny you just said a few minutes ago you and by the way it's it's okay

• 1:30:32Speaker 07

  but I don't think everything is Israel I don't think

• 1:30:33Patrick Bet-David?

  maybe not everything but if

• 1:30:35Speaker 07

  I don't agree with that at all

• 1:30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  if you had to say who's a bigger threat you would say IRGC or Israel

• 1:30:40Adam Sosnick?

  IRGC

• 1:30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  then why did you say people Christians are leaving Israel people Christians are leaving Lebanon because of Israel

• 1:30:47Speaker 07

  that live in Lebanon that

• 1:30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  no but do you realize that

• 1:30:49Speaker 07

  there's a Christian president

• 1:30:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Christians are leaving Lebanon because of Israel I mean

• 1:30:54Speaker 07

  like right now

• 1:30:55Patrick Bet-David?

  even the most uh organized Muslims who study the history who are reasonable would say that's not true

• 1:31:03Speaker 07

  but the president of Lebanon is a Christian so what is Hezbollah murdering Christians every day in Lebanon?

• 1:31:08Patrick Bet-David?

  but why

• 1:31:08Speaker 07

  I'm curious because they're bombing Beirut

• 1:31:10Patrick Bet-David?

  do you know why? what do you think Hezbollah does for a living?

• 1:31:13Speaker 07

  no that what I'm saying is actively right now are they murdering Christians? I'm asking

• 1:31:17Patrick Bet-David?

  what do you think Hezbollah Hamas Houthis and ISIS does? what do you think their vision?

• 1:31:21Speaker 07

  they're terrorists

• 1:31:22Patrick Bet-David?

  have you read their mission statement?

• 1:31:24Speaker 07

  no

• 1:31:24Patrick Bet-David?

  do you know their mission statement or what they stand for?

• 1:31:26Speaker 07

  no

• 1:31:27Patrick Bet-David?

  okay so if you go look up Rob pull up the original mission statement of Hezbollah Houthis ISIS and what was the last one? uh uh um what was the last one we said?

• 1:31:38Speaker 07

  Hamas

• 1:31:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Hamas what is their mission statement? what is their mission statement where they're at okay? 1985 open letter manifesto the group's fundamental goal was the expulsion of American and Israeli forces from Lebanon? this is Hezbollah expulsion of American Israel forces from Lebanon the complete destruction of the state of Israel and the establishment Islamic state in Lebanon operating on the strict law that's the quote that's the manifesto of Hezbollah I know you you don't support that

• 1:32:07Speaker 07

  at all

• 1:32:07Patrick Bet-David?

  okay let me go to the next one Houthis originating in the 90s as a revivalist movement of Yemen Zaidi's Shia minority their stated goals on opposing US and Israeli hegemony fighting perceived political marginalization in Yemen and establishing a government aligned with their interception of Islamic principles okay? ISIS growing out of Al Qaeda and Iraq ISIS's primary transition was the violent overthrow of existing Middle Eastern governments to establish a borderless global Islamic caliphate governed by fundamentalist interpretation of Sharia law this is their original mission statement okay not whatever anybody says today on YouTube

• 1:32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Hamas outlined in 1988 foundational charter Hamas and offshoot of the past Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood stated that all historic Palestine is an Islamic

• 1:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Endowment and called the destruction of the state of Israel through jihad to establish Islamic State while a 2017 revised document softened it, but that's the original. So if that's your vision and mission statement, I know you, you're not for that. This is not something that you're for. But in your, in the Malak, I read this story about Pentagon with Israel spying. What do you think my position is with Israel spying? What do you think I'm at with it?

• 1:33:21Speaker 07

  You're not a fan of it at all?

• 1:33:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think I think they're spying?

• 1:33:25Speaker 07

  Hundred percent.

• 1:33:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I one hundred percent believe they're spying. Do you think I think Bibi wants the deal to get done with Iran?

• 1:33:31Speaker 07

  Absolutely not.

• 1:33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely not, he doesn't want. Do you think I think that Bibi is a guy that will listen to anything anybody else says? Or do you think he's gonna be Israel first and doing what he thinks is right for his state?

• 1:33:44Speaker 07

  Israel first and what Israel wants.

• 1:33:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gonna be, okay, but do you think I think that Trump is controlled by Israel?

• 1:33:47Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:33:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the part where I differ with others.

• 1:33:50Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:33:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And I don't know where you are with that.

• 1:33:51Speaker 07

  I don't, okay, ready for this? Number one, for anybody that knows me, I don't, I'm not one of these losers, streamers, from all of them, that everything is Israel. Absolutely not. I just want accountability when it comes to stuff like the spying. And Adam, you wanna talk about history, know your history. John Kerryakko was here talking about it live, talking about everything that Israel does and bugs everybody.

• 1:34:13Adam Sosnick?

  Because John Kerryakko has the most credibility out there.

• 1:34:15Speaker 07

  Adam, you're still in denial, which is fine, because I just want accountability.

• 1:34:18Adam Sosnick?

  What am I, endowed, denial of?

• 1:34:19Speaker 07

  When they're spying on us, hold on, here's my thing. When they're spying, Pat, when the Pentagon is admitting it, when they have nukes but nobody could say it, when they're doing all this stuff, can we just be, hold them accountable like you said, Adam, put people in jail? It's not about blaming them, but it's, for instance, we just, the first story, this story started, that the president keeps arguing back and forth with Bibi. I'm tired of it, because we have to pretend like, oh, here we go, no, don't bomb this, don't want this, because at the end of the day, Pat, what, what's the goal? This whole thing started with Iran to save the people, but all the, the New York Times reported it in the Situation Room, Israel kept pushing for this thing and said, oh, regime change, here's my question, because we're all about solutions, how do you get rid of the IRGC? That's the goal. How do you do it?

• 1:35:04Speaker 07

  Give me, give me that goal, give me that. That that prescription, I'm very curious because they're evil. They suck and I hope that they're all wiped out. How do we do it? Because the people are the ones that I care about. I can give a damn. I know.

• 1:35:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, Vinny, you're not gonna like the answer on how you do it.

• 1:35:20Speaker 07

  That's bad.

• 1:35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but but let me ask you, how do you do it?

• 1:35:23Speaker 07

  I'm that's why I'm asking the question.

• 1:35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you do it? Go ahead and do it.

• 1:35:26Speaker 07

  The real deal?

• 1:35:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, how do you get rid of I R G C?

• 1:35:29Speaker 07

  You have to bomb Pat and go in there.

• 1:35:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do it alone without Israel's help?

• 1:35:33Speaker 07

  I mean, us, America, of course we could.

• 1:35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You think you can do without Israel's intel that you need from them?

• 1:35:37Speaker 07

  America?

• 1:35:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:38Speaker 07

  I mean, we probably use.

• 1:35:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't be naive here.

• 1:35:40Speaker 07

  No, I'm not. We need their intel, of course.

• 1:35:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So then then give me what other allies you have in the if if you're saying we got to get that. I'm not telling you that's what it is. Your position is we have to get rid of I R G C. What allies do you need in the Middle East for us to be able to do that?

• 1:35:53Speaker 07

  It would probably be some of the Gulf states and Israel, obviously.

• 1:35:57Patrick Bet-David?

  OK, so you need their help.

• 1:35:58Speaker 07

  Of course.

• 1:35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So in this situation, you're gonna want to team up with them, knowing you need an alliance with them.

• 1:36:02Speaker 07

  Yes, even though that they're even though they're the ones that came into the into the situation and said, hey, all these objectives, we're gonna do it.

• 1:36:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so so to me, to me, Vinny, the biggest thing is the following. Like when I go to insurance conferences and I would see guys who are my enemies, whom I know they're stealing agents from me.

• 1:36:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:36:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I know they are, OK? And I know what they're saying behind my back. I know it. But these are people that if I'm trying to take out a bigger enemy that I have to have an ally with them to do business, you have to either be so black and white or understand that to get to the highest level of business, there's some gray area you have to deal with, not illegal, but there's a gray area where you may need to negotiate with your peers and team up with them. In a situation like this, I mean, if you if you want to go after I R G C, Vinny, even if you were the world leader, you would need to talk to Bibi.

• 1:36:54Speaker 07

  Hundred thousand percent.

• 1:36:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You would need to befriend him.

• 1:36:55Speaker 07

  Yeah, I agree.

• 1:36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  To be able to.

• 1:36:56Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 1:36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Do deals with. And that's what this guy's doing. So to me, I I think I think there is spying going on and it's not because of what John Kiriyaku said, but I'll speak to five different C I officers and they'll tell me the same thing and say they spy, we spy, we all are spying on each other.

• 1:37:11Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:37:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Literally, it's like one of those things where you sit in a room. You ever seen Mr. And Mrs. Smith?

• 1:37:16Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:37:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember with? Angelina Jolie and they both kind of know, hey, she's trying to kill me, I'm trying to kill you. But I love you.

• 1:37:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I'm saying? It's one of those weird situations. I think this is a very weird place where at my only hopes is still, my only hopes is that this thing gets done by June 14th and that cutoff day is coming. What? Where are we at? Six more days. I would love to see one day we wake up and it says the deal has been done. Now, will that happen or not? I don't know. I don't know if deals are going to get done by then or not. I'm still optimistic that that day takes place. And, uh, you know, we move on from it. Adam, I'll give you the last thoughts on this.

• 1:37:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, look, I totally appreciate that. There's a lot of people in America that are not fans of Bibi. By the way, there's a lot of people in America that are not fans of Trump. But we live in a society that has what is called elections. When's the last time they had an election, a real election in Iran? When's the last time they had a real election in Russia or China or North Korea?

• 1:38:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:12Adam Sosnick?

  We have elections and the reality is Trump got elected and what's his approval ratings at this point? Forty something. By the way, do you know who also hates Bibi? Half of Israel. So understand that it's a democracy. So there's a lot of people, unfortunately, that have TDS in America. And then have IDS, Israel Derangement Syndrome all over the world and they can't just basically think clearly. Here's what I believe. I think Trump with in conjunction with Bibi and a few other people are literally saving the Western world. From Islamists, Marxists, the woke agenda.

• 1:38:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe that?

• 1:38:47Adam Sosnick?

  What was it?

• 1:38:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. Do you believe that Trump and Bibi are saving the Western world?

• 1:38:53Adam Sosnick?

  Trump and Bibi and by defining it by saving.

• 1:38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  By, by, by fighting to either eliminate IRGC or get them to not have the powers that they have.

• 1:39:01Adam Sosnick?

  100%. If, if the mission was clear, meaning it was an achievable goal, Pat, because I agree with we're going to go there and we're going to liberate the people. What happened? What happened to the people? Because I haven't heard one peep from anybody about the people. Cause every, no, no, everything turned into Carg Island and oil and, and, and, okay. What happened to the, the objective was what? Save these freaking 40.

• 1:39:27Speaker 07

  30,000 people who died, did they die in vain? Have you heard one protest, one, it was just, I haven't heard one thing. We're the only ones talking about these people and God rest all their souls and now what? Now, the IRGC is still in charge, imagine what their lives are right now. Oh, the IRGC right now is going, okay, we're, we're, we're still fighting and now they're turning around at them and going, oh, you guys were fighting against us, were you?

• 1:39:51Adam Sosnick?

  And I appreciate what you're saying, who killed those people?

• 1:39:54Speaker 07

  The IRGC.

• 1:39:55Adam Sosnick?

  And then who's fighting against the IRGC?

• 1:39:56Speaker 07

  We are, but, but we told them to step up, America.

• 1:39:59Adam Sosnick?

  And who else?

• 1:40:00Speaker 07

  Israel.

• 1:40:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:40:01Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:40:02Adam Sosnick?

  So, in de facto, who's defending the fallen dead people that you're complaining about?

• 1:40:06Speaker 07

  Who told them to go in the streets and fight? We told them, hey, guys, we got your back and then you don't got their back? It's not, no, Adam, you can't say, all right.

• 1:40:13Adam Sosnick?

  I feel like we're just going around in circles.

• 1:40:15Speaker 07

  No, what I'm, okay, guys.

• 1:40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Vinnie, let me, let me, I wish I could find this one, and I've, I've heard you saying that many, many times, but let me go to it.

• 1:40:22Speaker 07

  But is it, is it a fact, what I'm saying?

• 1:40:24Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's, it's, it's not about whether it's a fact or not, let me tell you where, where this goes. I wish I could find a chapter to read this to you. So, I'm reading a book right now, which it's a decent book, I don't know if I recommend it to everybody, but it's a decent book. The book is called CEO Excellence by two senior partners, written by McKinsey. Little bit too much DEI stuff and climate change stuff for my cup of tea, but it's a decent book. One of the things it talks about is the relationship with boards. And there's about three or four chapters in these boards that the CEO has access to every information that even as executives don't have access to all the information that he has. And he has to go to the board and make a decision, right?

• 1:41:05Patrick Bet-David?

  There's going to be many times CEOs going to make a decision in a company that nobody needs to know everything that's going on. You're not at that pay, pay grade level to know about it. So, we don't know why Trump made the adjustment, we don't know why he went through, what he went through. You don't know what he knows that you and I don't know, nobody knows this. He got elected and he made the pivot of where he went to. It could have been because he didn't feel there was a replacement in Iran that was strong enough. He thought somebody else was going to come out of it. The reality of it is, imagine you go out there and you say, here's what we're going to be doing. There's one guy that says, I got military that's going to defect and it's going to come, another guy that says this, and then nothing happens. So, now you have to take responsibility for doing a lot, all of that work yourself, now it's on him? You think that's on Trump's job?

• 1:41:46Speaker 07

  Well, I'm sorry? That him, him getting all the information?

• 1:41:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, so he goes there and says, "I'm gonna save, we're gonna do this."

• 1:41:52Speaker 07

  In the Situation Room, yeah.

• 1:41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but, but he says that.

• 1:41:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:41:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And then things change on the back end with information that you were hoping that's out of your control. What would you do?

• 1:42:01Speaker 07

  If I was in, if I as the President of the United States, I was sitting in a room.

• 1:42:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You say that, and you're gonna do that. "We're coming, we're gonna come save you." And then, events that you have information on, things change. Would you pivot? Or would you still go on and do what you said you were gonna do?

• 1:42:15Speaker 07

  You have to still, you have to stay the course, because that's what America does. But let me, let me ask you a question. If you're the President and you're in a Situation Room and all your trusted advisors are going, "Hey, don't listen to this, that."

• 1:42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't go that position.

• 1:42:27Speaker 07

  What do you mean?

• 1:42:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, you can't, because then you isolate. Don't get, we can go there if you want to, isolate. You're the President.

• 1:42:33Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:42:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You say Iranian people were coming. If he says that, in his mind, what do you think he knows, or he's thinking?

• 1:42:40Speaker 07

  There, there's an achievable goal to help them.

• 1:42:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Because, you think he thinks he can do that by himself?

• 1:42:44Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Because he thinks there's other people involved that are gonna help that become a reality, right? Okay, great. So now you realize those other people that you initially assumed are strong. Maybe your people said they're strong, maybe half of them said they're not. You took the risk, I'm going with it. All of a sudden, situation changes, you realize, no military is defecting. Nothing's flipping on Iran. Then do you adjust?

• 1:43:07Speaker 07

  You have to.

• 1:43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  As a leader?

• 1:43:07Speaker 07

  You have to.

• 1:43:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So then what do you do? Do you go out there and tell the world exactly why you're adjusting? Do you do that?

• 1:43:14Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:43:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't.

• 1:43:15Speaker 07

  You can't show your, you can't show your hand.

• 1:43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Because then the other guys that are talking to you are no longer gonna talk to you and tell you everything.

• 1:43:19Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 1:43:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This, we oversimplify this whole thing in, in so many ways. Here's, what, what do we know? What's, what do we know, what cards do we know that's out there? Is IRGC a net positive to the world?

• 1:43:32Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:43:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Is Houthis a net positive to the world? Is Hamas a net positive to the world? Is Hezbollah a net positive to the world? Is Israel a net positive to the world?

• 1:43:41Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:43:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think?

• 1:43:43Speaker 07

  Is it a net positive to the world?

• 1:43:47Speaker 07

  I don't even know how to answer that.

• 1:43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You just answer the other ones easily.

• 1:43:50Speaker 07

  And what's that?

• 1:43:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Very easy, is it, say Israel doesn't exist. Say we actually, like, would you like Israel to be gone?

• 1:43:58Speaker 07

  I would never say that.

• 1:44:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So then you would rather have them exist and not exist?

• 1:44:03Speaker 07

  Of course.

• 1:44:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So when they got their state, you think that was a bad idea that they got their state?

• 1:44:08Speaker 07

  I don't think it was a bad idea. I think the, the, they fought for it in England. Uh, the Rothschilds and everybody gave them the land in Palestine.

• 1:44:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so what I'm saying to you is, today, today, is the, is the Middle East a better place if Israel didn't exist?

• 1:44:24Speaker 07

  Is the Middle East a better place if Israel? I don't think so because they'd be all ran by the same.

• 1:44:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So why don't you take that position? So the position is what? Your position is what? That it's a better place?

• 1:44:35Speaker 07

  It's a better place with Israel there, obviously, because if not, we'd have, everybody would hate us.

• 1:44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so that, that's a position now. So, so let me recap.

• 1:44:42Speaker 07

  Hate America. If everybody, if everybody was Hezbollah, Houthi, Iran, and everybody, they would hate us.

• 1:44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think the world today hates Israel more or America more?

• 1:44:51Adam Sosnick?

  Israel.

• 1:44:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Who do you think?

• 1:44:53Speaker 07

  The world?

• 1:44:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so if, if I go and poll, if I go and poll people in the world, and they said, who do they hate more, Israel or US? What do you think they would say?

• 1:45:03Speaker 07

  In the world?

• 1:45:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Honestly, Tom, I'm not talking Americans, outside.

• 1:45:07Speaker 07

  But America, or Israel as a, as a nation?

• 1:45:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Israel as a nation, led by Bibi, or US? Who do you think they hate more?

• 1:45:16Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 1:45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember, the, you, the world population of religions, just go basic math.

• 1:45:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Almost 2 billion people that are Muslims in the world. Do you think they hate Israel more or America more?

• 1:45:28Speaker 07

  I mean, we've done a lot of damage to Muslims.

• 1:45:30Patrick Bet-David?

  This is actually a very simple thing, Vinny. Who do you think they hate more? Tom, what do you think?

• 1:45:34Tom Ellsworth?

  They hate us, because to them, so we say, oh, look at Iran with the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas. They look at the US and they make their own list, oh, the great Satan and all of its daughters.

• 1:45:47Speaker 07

  Yeah, we started the wars.

• 1:45:48Tom Ellsworth?

  They hate us because we represent the good and the power to drive it.

• 1:45:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is the most hated man in the world?

• 1:45:55Speaker 07

  Donald Trump.

• 1:45:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's not. No, it's Bibi's number one.

• 1:45:59Speaker 07

  Really?

• 1:46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh yeah, this report came out six months ago. It was a report, I even think we talked about it, Vinny. I even think we talked about it.

• 1:46:08Speaker 07

  Well, so we were right though, America because of all the wars and everything that we saw, people hate America.

• 1:46:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But I think, but I think US is, uh, there was a, there was a thing that came out where he was number one. I think Musk was two. Or Musk was one, uh, uh, we talked about this, Rob, you're gonna find this. I guarantee you Rob's gonna find this. On who were the most hated, it was, it was a major Gallup poll tracking, uh, public favorability as the most disliked public figures. Uh, uh, Israel Prime Minister is widely viewed as the most unpopular world leaders globally. Okay, number one. And then Musk was number one, by the way, Bibi is more hated than Trump. Think about that.

• 1:46:50Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Bibi is more hated than Trump. And then which one was the country that had the most negative, Rob, this is it, good work, Rob, zoom in a little bit. Who was it? Uh, very unfavorable, go a little bit lower, little bit lower, Pakistan 95, where's Israel? That's all I'm looking for.

• 1:47:08Speaker 02

  This is actually, uh, majority of countries have negative views of Israel.

• 1:47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, of Israel, okay, so.

• 1:47:15Speaker 07

  But where's the one that hate, which country is the most hated?

• 1:47:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but there is, Vinny, there is, and it was, Bibi was number one. And Musk was number one on the business side. If you're looking at rankings, yeah, but do you know where I'm going with this? This is kinda where I'm going with this. Um, what, what's the hate towards us, what's the hate towards Israel? Right, right there, what does it say at the top?

• 1:47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Netanyahu ranked as what? World's most likely. And that's two months ago, three months ago, four months ago, three and a half months ago. Okay, so there is a reason for this, on why this is happening. And a lot of this falls on him, a lot of it falls on what they've done, but a, a, a part of, maybe this is gonna sound very weird for me to say this. Part of this is like, the hate is going towards them, not as much to America. And, and Trump is trying to find a way, hey man, are you gonna, I love, I love that every time he makes a call and he still attacks, that the world sees it. That he's still choosing to do it himself. Hmm. So when you do something like that, what are you showing to the world?

• 1:48:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You're showing you're not as good of an ally as you claim you are. Hmm. If we're coming out of our way to help and you're doing this, you're not listening. Hey, that's not ally business. Ally businesses, listen. But to me, when you go through, look at this, the basic questions. Is Hezbollah a net positive to the world? No. Is IRGC net positive to the world? Is Hamas a net positive? Is Houthis a net positive? Is Israel a net positive? You said what? Yes. You said finally, yes. So, and by the way, if somebody says no, then great, that's your position. But if somebody says those four are net positives to the world. Who funds those four? One country, Vinny. Iran. One country funds them. So, I want to get to the next story. I want to get to the next story. We've been going back and forth on this. I want to get to the next story. Next one I want to get to is YouTube.

• 1:49:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Youtubers taking over Hollywood. Rob, what a weird, uh... Transition. We went from that to this, but we're gonna do that. Hezbollah, man. Hey, move it there. We'll have the conversations. You're damn right. And the audience can debate, argue, say whatever you want, but it is what it is. Let me go to the story. Rob, what page is this with the YouTuber?

• 1:49:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this weekend, I decided to go watch two movies. Page 30, YouTubers Take Over Hollywood. I found it. This weekend, I decided to go watch two movies. My son and Vinny, last weekend, went and watched Backrooms, okay? And they're like, you have to watch it, you have to do this, you have to do that. So I go watch it. I watch it on Saturdays, Saturday. And then on Sunday last night, we went and watched Obsession, okay? Which, by the way, both YouTubers, for Backrooms, the guy's name is Kane Parsons. Yes. Who is 20 years old. When the movie was done, the director of the movie, he posted a video, we talked about this last week. Got 79 million views.

• 1:50:17Patrick Bet-David?

  If you go on YouTube, Rob, type in Backrooms and search for Filter Popularity. You will see this video alone has 79 million views. When he first came up with it, it was at 7.9 million views. Now it's at, I'm sorry, 83 million views today. That clip that he made, Kane Pixels, okay? So, this leads to a movie that he does. $10 million they raised. I believe that $10 million made $150 million.

• 1:50:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you have Curry Barker, 26 years old, Vinny, at any time, correct me.

• 1:50:50Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:50:51Patrick Bet-David?

  26 years old, who decides to do this movie obsession.

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• 1:52:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep. Which is a girl that gets obsessed because this one thing that you crack and make a wish, and he says, "I wish she loved me."

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  More than anything in the world.

• 1:52:34Patrick Bet-David?

  More than anything in the world. And by the way, when it happens, within a second, it's the scene, he's in the car, he breaks it. What's the girl's name in the movie? What was her name? Anna? I don't know what the girl's name was in the movie.

• 1:52:45Speaker 07

  Her real name is Indy Navarrete.

• 1:52:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Indy Navarrete, which by the way, she made the flipping movie. You ready for this? $750,000 is how much it costs to do the movie. The movie's made $150 million. 200x rate of return. By the way, if anybody knows Indy Navarrete, Vinny kinda likes her, okay?

• 1:53:06Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, man?

• 1:53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  She was...

• 1:53:08Speaker 07

  She's ridiculous.

• 1:53:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, she is about to become a...

• 1:53:11Speaker 07

  Superstar.

• 1:53:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Superstar. If you haven't seen, she crushed it, right?

• 1:53:14Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:53:15Patrick Bet-David?

  750,000 dollars makes 150 million dollars and by the way Mandalorian came out a couple of weeks ago.

• 1:53:20Speaker 07

  Yup.

• 1:53:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Mandalorian, the budget, everything, marketing was 300 million dollars. It's made 240 million dollars, which means it's lost already 60 million dollars on the 300 million dollar investment. So, what's the story here? Youtubers, independent creators are making movies after making a name for themselves on YouTube and it's translating. Vinnie, a couple of things on the movies that we can get through, okay? A couple of things to say about the movies.

• 1:53:44Speaker 07

  And spoiler alert, not to, we're not gonna give away the movie, but you guys obviously know the makeup.

• 1:53:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's what happens at the end, both of them. Let me break it for you.

• 1:53:53Speaker 07

  Everybody's dead. No, I'm joking, but so man, just FYI, Indy Navarrete, she used to be a Call of Duty streamer. I know Alberto would love that. First movie in 40 years to make more money in its third weekend than its first two weekends. Um, that, it's amazing, Pat. It's just, it's just, I, I, I love the fact that Hollywood, like, I don't wanna call it Hollywood, but like the independent, the horror movies are back. You don't need to spend, like you said, 300 million dollars with advertising and CGI and this and that. If the writing is good and there's a following and you're actually getting scared, it's so freaking worth it. And it's like actual, like Pat, you like, and look at how great the movie is.

• 1:54:34Speaker 07

  You have a beautiful girl, beautiful girl that keeps that audience like, oh my God, look how gorgeous she is. They don't show anything crazy, but they're, they're revealing that.

• 1:54:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, they showed a few crazy things.

• 1:54:43Speaker 07

  They did show a couple.

• 1:54:44Adam Sosnick?

  Can I see a pic already of this beautiful girl that you keep talking about?

• 1:54:46Speaker 07

  That's her right there. No, that's not, that's not, yeah, Rob, go to Google and do it.

• 1:54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a couple of scenes that she acts.

• 1:54:52Speaker 07

  Oh, it's ridiculous.

• 1:54:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And let me tell you, you, she will, there's a couple of scenes right there.

• 1:54:58Adam Sosnick?

  She looks like a very nice person.

• 1:55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  No, she, by the way, the way she played, I think she's got a dark side. I'm convinced.

• 1:55:04Adam Sosnick?

  Even better.

• 1:55:05Speaker 07

  She definitely does. So bad thing about it, writing, good writing, good ending, uh, the acting, the, the, you know, obviously they put beautiful people in there and then he was laugh, bro, he's dying laughing toward the art section was laughing. So it's like you got everything.

• 1:55:20Adam Sosnick?

  Laughing about in a horror movie.

• 1:55:21Speaker 07

  No, uh, trust me, you, don't, don't give it away. But Pat, didn't it feel good because?

• 1:55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't give it away.

• 1:55:24Speaker 07

  We were in the theater. How packed was the theater?

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Jam-packed.

• 1:55:27Speaker 07

  Jam-packed.

• 1:55:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Movies 20 minutes and people are still walking in.

• 1:55:30Speaker 07

  Still walking in and didn't it feel good? I looked around a couple of times. I don't know if you noticed and I'm like, wow, going out and going to the movies are back for how many years?

• 1:55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Who called these guys out? Who said bad things about them? The guy that only made nine movies doesn't want to make his tent?

• 1:55:43Speaker 07

  Oh, um.

• 1:55:44Patrick Bet-David?

  The big director.

• 1:55:45Speaker 07

  Quentin Tarantino.

• 1:55:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Quentin Tarantino is like, yeah, whatever, all this stuff. But by the way, these movie theaters, this is the first time, what was the number that came about the movie theaters, Rob? That this is the first time they're making money like the way that.

• 1:55:57Speaker 07

  Yeah, Rob, if you Google like, May, May box office for movie theaters, AMC theaters.

• 1:56:02Patrick Bet-David?

  AMC Theaters, yes. So these.

• 1:56:05Speaker 07

  Record highs, Pat. Domestic and global.

• 1:56:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there you go. AMC Entertainment, record high, domestic and global, May attendance since 2019. So YouTubers are making AMC start, like AMC Entertainment, largest, welcome more than 4.2 million moviegoers to its US AMC Theater in a month of May, Thursday, Sunday night, and yet another strong weekend at the box office in May, both domestically and globally, AMC Entertainment received 200 25 and a half million guests at our theaters, recording the highest attendance month of May since 2019. Backrooms opening 81 million, and then it talks about the following, 75 million. So these guys making these movies are directly and indirectly impacting other businesses that have been dying for a few years.

• 1:56:52Speaker 07

  And you know what's a beautiful thing about it, Pat? With everything with AI coming out and this is such a good brand for human because they're all human. What AI, what? There was no crazy special graphics. There was no fake people in it. Everything was real. Every actor was real and it's, I think it's, I think it's a great sign for the future of cinema, Pat, and it's all because of YouTubers. 750,000 that's going to turn, he's saying that they're on track for $200 million and Backrooms was 10 million, yeah, Obsession. And Backrooms is gonna, it's gonna hit $300 million. It's insane.

• 1:57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Obsession was a better movie than Backrooms for me.

• 1:57:24Speaker 07

  By how, how much?

• 1:57:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I give, I give Obsession's a, and by the way, these are horror movies.

• 1:57:30Speaker 07

  And you don't really, you don't watch horror movies like me and Tico.

• 1:57:33Patrick Bet-David?

  My son loves horror movies. He's just obsessed with horror. He'll sit in the room by himself and watch Exorcist. He'll sit there and watch with the lights off and he'll watch it by himself and finish it up. I, I give, I give obsession a good eight and a half and I give backrooms a seven and a quarter.

• 1:57:47Speaker 07

  Okay, so still up there though.

• 1:57:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But I give the, I give the directors that are doing this a high praise of what they're doing because it only benefits creators. Creators are winning, which is a good thing for everybody. And the business model is changing, Vinny. And by the way, Scary Movie when it came out, how did it do this weekend?

• 1:58:06Speaker 07

  Scary Movie had over a hundred and, I think fifteen million. I think it was number one pack globally, everywhere.

• 1:58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifty-five million opening weekend with additional, fifteen and a half million from international markets.

• 1:58:18Speaker 07

  Let's go.

• 1:58:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred and five and a half million, Scary Movie. By the way, pushing the entire Scary Movie franchise by a billion dollars.

• 1:58:24Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 1:58:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The production budget was thirty million.

• 1:58:26Speaker 07

  Thirty million.

• 1:58:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So thirty million made a hundred and five million opening weekend.

• 1:58:30Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Horror movies are back.

• 1:58:32Speaker 07

  They're back. And even, even spoofing them. That's Marlon and all my friends with it. Pat, can I give you one wild theory that I?

• 1:58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me.

• 1:58:38Speaker 07

  I don't want to spoil it. It's not gonna give, I don't think it'll give it away, but you tell me to stop if I have to stop. Uh, are you ready for this? Nikki, the girl, isn't just obsessed with Bear. She is Bear's dead cat. You want me to tell you why? You want me to tell you why?

• 1:58:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me.

• 1:58:52Speaker 07

  Think about it. She hides in corners and watches him sleep. Uh, the way she moves almost feels cat-like. She waits by the door for him all day. Her glowing eyes, remember in that silhouette in that one shot in the mirror where her eyes looked like a cat? You remember that? She literally brings dead things to him, just like cats bring gifts to her dead owners. The theory is that Bear made a wish at the One Wish Willow. I wish, uh, he loved me more than anyone in the world. His dead cat spirit was nearby and entered Nikki. I don't want to go into the rest.

• 1:59:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, by the way, there is five scenes in this movie.

• 1:59:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  There's five scenes in this movie. By the way, there's one scene in back rooms where he brings the rope with his two employees. And the one guy goes downstairs, he comes back up, he sees something, and then they go all the way down.

• 1:59:33Speaker 07

  Scary as hell.

• 1:59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  With the bed, that's one in back rooms. And then in this one, where, you know, I mean, there's a handful of scenes. Her standing in the corner.

• 1:59:42Speaker 07

  Oh, my god.

• 1:59:43Patrick Bet-David?

  When he makes the, goes to eat the sandwich, takes a bite out of the sandwich, and then finds out what's in the sandwich, what it's made with. I mean, it's, it's.

• 1:59:50Speaker 07

  It was nasty.

• 1:59:51Adam Sosnick?

  I just have a suggestion.

• 1:59:52Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:59:53Adam Sosnick?

  You know, I'm not the movie guy, but you guys, your face lights up when you talk about movies. I'm clueless. Tom hasn't said anything. I'm just bewildered right now. I think there's a room in the marketplace for a new updated version of Siskel and Ebert. I think PBD and Vinnie a movie review, once a week.

• 2:00:10Speaker 07

  But that's a lot.

• 2:00:11Adam Sosnick?

  You guys watch the movies every weekend. I'm proposing this idea. I think you had like a $10 million, uh, $10 million view clip when you were talking about movies that you recommend for people, whatever those movies are.

• 2:00:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Look.

• 2:00:22Adam Sosnick?

  I want you guys to do something about this.

• 2:00:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's the reality.

• 2:00:24Adam Sosnick?

  Make it happen.

• 2:00:25Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna make a movie in the next couple of years. You'll hear about it. We're excited about it. I love the fact that the creatives are doing what they're doing, but I want to do one last story before we wrap up. Before I go.

• 2:00:35Speaker 07

  Wow, we're already done?

• 2:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, I want to do one last story. And before I do the story, can I read a story to you guys? Let me read a story.

• 2:00:41Speaker 07

  Yes, please.

• 2:00:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a story. Father's Day is around the corner. By the way, hundreds of you have already placed your orders, which I freaking love. It tells me where you are with fathers and grandfathers, and a bunch of you guys are just ordering the grandpa shirt. Grandpa knows everything, Rob, if you can go to it on the, on the side. But I want, I want to read this story to you, which I kind of, um, I think about this a lot. A father spends years teaching his son how to ride a bike. At first, he runs beside him. Then, he lets go for a second. Then, a little longer. Then, one day, the son rides away on his own. The son thinks, my dad finally stopped helping me.

• 2:01:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What he doesn't realize is that his father stood there watching until he disappeared around the corner praying he'd be okay. That's fatherhood. A father spends his life preparing his children for the day they no longer need him. Isn't that wild? This morning I woke up, Brooklyn came to our bed last night and the kids slept in our room, two of them slept in our room. And I wake up and I'm about to leave and she's still laying there. And I said, you know what? Let me just record this for myself for footage because I may never see this again, you know, as they age, your oldest son doesn't come in anymore. I take the video and I just record Brooklyn in our bed. Literally, I record Brooklyn in our bed. And I'm, look at this. Oh, that face, Benny. I record this

• 2:02:11Speaker 07

  What is she dreaming about?

• 2:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, and she's just laying there with the way she putting, she got all these tattoos, fake tattoos yesterday on her. But to those of you that want to give that experience to your fathers or grandfathers, go to vtmerch.com, place the order before these things sell out, and put a smile on their face. These guys are behind closed doors doing everything they can to make your future a better life. But again, go to vtmerch.com, whether it's the box that goes to them, or it's the shirt individually that goes to them. Get something. And some of you guys, if you got, you know, a bunch of dads you're working with, get 20 of them, give it away to the people at work, sales guys, use it as a recognition thing to give it to everybody. Rob, can you go to the best dad ever shirt as well? There's one that says best dad ever. If you don't do the bundle,

• 2:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  just order 20, 30 of these and go give it away to people. On the back of these shirts, if you go to the back, it says future looks bright on the back. So VT will go on it. All right. So with that being said, let's go to the last story. Last story. Knicks are playing tonight against the Spurs. President Trump is planning on attending the game.

• 2:03:16Speaker 07

  Is it guaranteed?

• 2:03:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Not guaranteed, but he's planning on attending the game. Now, at first, some people said Bibi may go with him. That's not gonna be happening.

• 2:03:25Speaker 07

  That would be freaking Mamdani, BB and Trump.

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And they asked Mamdani, where will you be sitting? I will not be sitting with the president if the president come. Mamdani commented on that. But they were asking about, you know, Knicks and all this stuff. And I found a clip. Is this the one him saying that he?

• 2:03:41Speaker 07

  The prices?

• 2:03:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is, yeah, because a lot of people are saying, well, the prices are high. It's not fair. It's not this, it's not that. And the president says something very simple about prices being high, but go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's now, by the way, 11,000.

• 2:03:57Speaker 05

  Well, I know, but they can watch it on television. It's sort of semi-free to watch it on television, but that's the way life goes. You have some and now if the game wasn't a big, if the team wasn't a big success, you could go very easily. So, you know, you can, you can do that too, but that's the way life is, you know? They had, they've had great success. And don't forget they've suffered also losses and they've suffered during the bad time. Now they have a good time. They have a team that's amazing. I don't think they've lost a playoff game, right?

• 2:04:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, so a lot of people are like, well, why would he go? Why would he do this? Why would he do that? There's a clip that was circulating, Rob, I think I sent it to you of him. This is Ewing after his interview. Watch what he does right after. And by the way, a lot of people say Ewing is possibly the greatest Nick, if not a top three greatest Nick of all time, because you got, you got a few different names.

• 2:04:49Speaker 07

  Willis.

• 2:04:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this one here. Go ahead.

• 2:04:51Speaker 07

  Are you glad your teammates didn't come off the bench this time? I'm glad we got the win.

• 2:04:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 2:05:00Speaker 07

  Wait, what the?

• 2:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You haven't seen this?

• 2:05:02Speaker 07

  No.

• 2:05:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this.

• 2:05:05Speaker 07

  Trump's been around for 50 years.

• 2:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's been around for a long time.

• 2:05:07Speaker 07

  Wait, he's a racist and he hates black people. Why would he do that?

• 2:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So what do you think? By the way, one, do you think he's going to show up? Two, do you think they're going to boo? They're gonna, you know, they're gonna, because, you know, Stephen A. has some things to say about it. You think they're going to boo? You think they're going to react negatively, positively? What do you think is going to happen?

• 2:05:23Speaker 07

  I think New York, Pat, they're obviously going to boo. It'll be a mixed, mixed, uh, mixed emotion, more boos. But guess what? He's going to sit there and he's going to smile and he's going to be like, guess what? I didn't pay for this ticket. I'm here.

• 2:05:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I think the, the whole premise of the question from the reporter, as if it's Trump's fault that the ticket prices are high, we're asking him a gotcha question, dude. And he gives a very, very balanced answer. So that's, once again, the media at work. And then Mandami and all the circus that are going to be there on his side, as if the Knicks haven't suffered enough over the years, you know, they don't, they certainly don't need that. But um, I, I think it's, if he wants to be there, be there. And then if, if fans are gonna boo, fans are gonna boo. I think he'll get more cheers than he thinks, but it's not gonna be like UFC. It's not gonna be UFC a year ago.

• 2:06:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 2:06:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you run a poll, Rob? I want to know what people will say. Run a poll to see, is he gonna get more boos or more cheers? Go ahead, Adam.

• 2:06:18Adam Sosnick?

  I'm a little torn right now. I hate the Knicks. I've never liked the Knicks. I'm a Heat fan. One of the greatest joys of my life is watching the Heat win their multiple championships, whether it was Shaq and Wade, whether it was LeBron and Wade and Bosch and, you know, you know, with Jimmy Butler going to the finals twice with the Heat. I hate the Knicks. But at the same time, I like a good story. I think Jalen Brunson is the most underrated player in the NBA, and people realize that this guy is an absolute stud at this point. But at the end of the day, I don't want M'Donnie having any victories at all. Zero.

• 2:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this will be a big one.

• 2:06:54Adam Sosnick?

  I think that guy is just a, I think that guy is just a-

• 2:06:56Speaker 07

  You know what he's gonna say?

• 2:06:57Adam Sosnick?

  Smiling lion. Yeah, of course. This communist shows up and all of a sudden the Knicks are good? I think, uh, Wemby is gonna show up tonight. This alien freak of nature is gonna actually win a game. You think the Knicks are gonna sweep the Spurs? If they do, they got more than Trump, more than Bibby. They got Hashem looking down on them. I don't know what to tell you, but Jalen Brunson's awesome, but I am not rooting for the Knicks at all.

• 2:07:20Speaker 07

  Can you imagine though, they do sweep and they're all in the court like, yay! And M'Donnie's with them and they're all saying, he's like, I'm gonna tax your guys a second home, 55%.

• 2:07:26Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, Stephen A. Smith, I love you, bro. You're the man. I want you weeping and crying tonight, brother.

• 2:07:31Patrick Bet-David?

  What does Stephen A. say about it?

• 2:07:32Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, he says, he says-

• 2:07:33Speaker 07

  What about Trump?

• 2:07:34Adam Sosnick?

  He says, I don't want Trump showing up. I don't want Obama showing up. I don't want nobody showing up.

• 2:07:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see it.

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• 2:08:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He's coming to game three of the finals. And I don't want him there.

• 2:08:59Adam Sosnick?

  Of course he doesn't.

• 2:09:00Patrick Bet-David?

  He's coming to game four of the NBA Finals, and I don't want him there.

• 2:09:04Adam Sosnick?

  Doesn't matter what you want, Stephen A.

• 2:09:06Patrick Bet-David?

  It has nothing to do with politics, policy, or anything like that. It has everything to do with him disrupting and contributing to the chaos that's going to be existing in Madison Square Garden. If there was ever a time, if it were Barack Obama coming to the Garden, I would say, stay home. Stare at the White House. If it was George W. Clinton or somebody, stare at the White House. Don't come. You don't understand.

• 2:09:40Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna come.

• 2:09:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What Monday is going to be like in New York City.

• 2:09:46Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with him there. Chaos.

• 2:09:48Patrick Bet-David?

  The subways will never be more packed.

• 2:09:51Adam Sosnick?

  God forbid.

• 2:09:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't drive your cars in Midtown. I'm trying to tell you, it'll be a parking lot.

• 2:10:00Speaker 00

  There is nothing short of madness that is coming the way.

• 2:10:05Adam Sosnick?

  Great take.

• 2:10:05Speaker 07

  So, do you think, okay, do you, because if it's a sweep, I mean, when's the last time a championship?

• 2:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you why I think there's no winning here for the president, and I'll explain to you why.

• 2:10:16Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 2:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll give you my position. I think there's winning if the Knicks were down 2-0, and he goes and they win.

• 2:10:22Speaker 07

  Yeah. Okay.

• 2:10:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But because the Knicks are up 2-0, if he goes and they get their first loss, the loss, everything on every cover of New York Times, Post, every sports, everything's gonna say,

• 2:10:35Speaker 07

  Trump.

• 2:10:36Patrick Bet-David?

  The bad luck charm. By the way, if he goes and they win, it's gonna be like, okay, they've been on a 12, 13 game win streak, so it's not like you're the reason. They haven't won for a month and a half. They haven't lost for a month and a half. It's not like you did it. But if he goes and they end up sweeping, okay, cool, maybe it's fine. But if he goes, and I'm telling you right now, Vinny, no, no, no, let me tell you. If he go, I'm telling you right, if he goes,

• 2:11:01Speaker 07

  Oh, God.

• 2:11:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And the Spurs come back and win 4-2 or 4-3,

• 2:11:05Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 2:11:06Patrick Bet-David?

  This may, but,

• 2:11:07Speaker 07

  Knicks and Knicks.

• 2:11:08Patrick Bet-David?

  They will forgive the Iranian deal. They will not forgive this deal.

• 2:11:12Speaker 07

  That's fine.

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  They're gonna be like, you know what?

• 2:11:13Speaker 07

  Oh, my God.

• 2:11:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Forget about all the Israel, Bibi, Iran, everything, economy, gas prices. You ruined it. You're the reason for it. So, I don't know. I don't know. If I'm, if I'm an advisor, I'm really like, look, you can, you can do whatever you're gonna do.

• 2:11:25Speaker 07

  Has anybody ever been swept in the championship?

• 2:11:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, of course.

• 2:11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Swept? Shaq, first time he went to the finals, Magic.

• 2:11:32Speaker 07

  Oh, wow.

• 2:11:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Shaq was, Shaq lost 4-0, you know, first time he went to the finals.

• 2:11:36Adam Sosnick?

  The Heat got swept by the Nuggets.

• 2:11:37Speaker 07

  Like, how many times, Robbie? Is it a lot? Oh, nine, nine.

• 2:11:41Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe the Heat won one.

• 2:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It's happened quite a few times.

• 2:11:43Speaker 07

  Warriors, Cavs.

• 2:11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Matt, by the way, there was a good, good back and forth with Shaq and, uh, Charles Barkley. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. It was actually very, very good. Did you see it? Did you, because you don't do basketball, you're not good at basketball.

• 2:11:55Speaker 07

  I watch all the time. What was this one?

• 2:11:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So Shaq and Barkley were going back and forth.

• 2:11:58Speaker 07

  Was that a little jab at me?

• 2:11:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It was. Shaq and Barkley were going back and forth, and you know what the discussion was about?

• 2:12:02Speaker 07

  Winning championships?

• 2:12:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The cat is better than Wimby. Yeah, so the argument was, no, this is not it. No, they literally are screaming at each other. I think this is, yeah, Rob, you have to find it. Just put Shaq and Barkley argue over Wimby. Just argue, yeah. So when you see this, and then Barkley finally says, Shaq, stop acting like everybody has to show up. You got swept. Okay, just type in swept. Okay, type in swept right after that.

• 2:12:32Adam Sosnick?

  Swept.

• 2:12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Swept, um, yeah, anyways, there was a big back and forth between two, you're not gonna find, I'll find it.

• 2:12:38Adam Sosnick?

  I wanna see it.

• 2:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, it was, it was such a great clip between the two of them, uh, where he's like, hey, what are you talking about?

• 2:12:45Adam Sosnick?

  He got swept by a team.

• 2:12:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Wemby's not playing. Wemby's not playing the way he should. And, uh, Barkley's like, dude, you got swept 4-0 against the freaking Rockets.

• 2:12:53Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, he does that?

• 2:12:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And then it was like, it was, it got very, very, but it was good for TV. It was good for TV between two of them.

• 2:13:00Adam Sosnick?

  Barkley is made for TV. Shaq is not.

• 2:13:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Shaq says, dude, he says Shaq says, you played 16 seasons, you never won a championship.

• 2:13:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, unfortunately Barkley's never gonna live that down.

• 2:13:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh?

• 2:13:10Adam Sosnick?

  Barkley's never gonna live that down.

• 2:13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He accepts it though, he accepts it. So anyways.

• 2:13:13Adam Sosnick?

  Anyway, what's your prediction tonight?

• 2:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Tonight?

• 2:13:15Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, what's your prediction? What's your prediction for the series?

• 2:13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, I, I, I'm, uh, I'm leaning toward, I want Wemby to win the whole thing because I always look at things as who's a better number one. I don't think, uh, I think you have city, then you have face of the NBA. Jalen's not the face of the NBA.

• 2:13:32Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 2:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He's just not. He's not even top three face of the NBA. He's great for little guys that make it into the NBA, like Steph Curry was very good for everybody feeling like they can get into the NBA. So Jalen is good for the little guy to feel that they can get in the NBA and fight. Some of the old clips you see with Jalen and his dad, they're the best. You ever seen these old clips?

• 2:13:51Adam Sosnick?

  You know who his dad is, right?

• 2:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  His dad played 10 seconds in the finals.

• 2:13:54Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 2:13:54Patrick Bet-David?

  His dad played 10 seconds in the NBA finals.

• 2:13:57Adam Sosnick?

  I had no idea.

• 2:13:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You know that? Yeah, his dad played 10 seconds.

• 2:13:59Adam Sosnick?

  Damn.

• 2:14:00Patrick Bet-David?

  In the NBA finals, his dad did. So it's actually a very good story of what's going on here. Yeah, his dad played, Rob, can you, can you fact check me if his dad played 10 seconds in the finals? Rick Brunson? Yeah.

• 2:14:13Adam Sosnick?

  He was a player. I mean, but this, this is an instance where the son is immensely better than the father.

• 2:14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Brunson got nine seconds. Look at this video. Nine seconds in the Knicks' last NBA finals. Jalen finally gets a chance to finish the story. So I don't know.

• 2:14:26Adam Sosnick?

  He's two years old.

• 2:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think if I'm a betting man, Knicks are winning it all. If I'm, if I'm talking about voting, like if I want who to win, I want Wemby to make a comeback. And we'll see.

• 2:14:35Adam Sosnick?

  I guarantee you this, the Knicks are not sweeping the Spurs. They may win tonight. We'll see, but there's no chance the Knicks are sweeping. The Spurs are a better team. They're just being outclassed by a. Knicks are playing.

• 2:14:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at Kelsey, how big is the money?

• 2:14:50Adam Sosnick?

  There's gonna be a lot of New Yorkers who spend $10,000, if not more, at this game tonight. They're gonna go home very upset.

• 2:14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  On the sweep.

• 2:14:56Speaker 07

  What's the sweep money, Tom?

• 2:14:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I wanna know what, how much money is right now on, on the NBA Finals?

• 2:15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this, Rob? 200 and, are you kidding me?

• 2:15:08Adam Sosnick?

  That's my point.

• 2:15:09Speaker 07

  Holy, how much money?

• 2:15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Just on Kelsey, 280 million.

• 2:15:13Speaker 07

  Yowza.

• 2:15:14Patrick Bet-David?

  280 million. So if you, but Rob, go a little bit lower. If you put a buck on Spurs, what do you win?

• 2:15:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, 78 cents.

• 2:15:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but, no, no, no, no, no. You, you win a, no, you put a buck on Spurs, you win more than 78 cents, Tom.

• 2:15:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:29Patrick Bet-David?

  That, that's saying, go, go on Spurs, Rob, click on it? And then just maybe, uh, go there and put a dollar, put dollar amount one? How much you win? Five. Yeah, you win five.

• 2:15:44Adam Sosnick?

  Five to one. That's to win the series, though. So if you're advising, if you're advising Trump.

• 2:15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:50Adam Sosnick?

  Your, your inner circle.

• 2:15:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:52Adam Sosnick?

  He says, Patrick, I'm gonna go to the game tonight. Do you wanna go? What do you tell him?

• 2:15:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gonna go.

• 2:15:56Adam Sosnick?

  But what would you tell him? Would you say, don't go, sir? It's not worth it.

• 2:16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I would wait to go, go game four after the Knicks lose tonight. Good point. If the Knicks lose tonight, go to the next game.

• 2:16:08Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:16:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't go on a 12 game win. There is nothing, you know, you know what it is? Never, ever follow a king who's been winning nonstop. There is no winning to it.

• 2:16:17Adam Sosnick?

  Hmm.

• 2:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Never follow, cause they're, they're on a how many game win streak? 13. And you wanna show up after they lose a game? Show up after they lose a game, or show up to game one. There's no upside to it.

• 2:16:26Adam Sosnick?

  They're not gonna be like, you're the reason we won.

• 2:16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:28Adam Sosnick?

  Anyway, go Spurs tonight, guys.

• 2:16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  With that being said, Hot Cakes, Hot Takes. You ready? Vinny, who's your guest on Hot Cakes, Hot Takes?

• 2:16:35Speaker 07

  Byron Donalds, we're premiering it at 11:30. So all you guys, Rob was gonna put the link in. Can I also, Pat? Tomorrow night at 7:30, me and the great Rob Garjulow. My boy Jack Asadurian are performing at the Improv, Fort Lauderdale Improv at 7:30.

• 2:16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's Jack.

• 2:16:49Speaker 07

  That's funny. Oh, he's Armenian Lebanese Armenian, that's him. Yeah.

• 2:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He is so funny. So tomorrow night?

• 2:16:56Speaker 07

  Tomorrow night, 7:30.

• 2:16:57Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, all right, sounds good.

• 2:16:58Speaker 07

  And so, yeah.

• 2:16:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, guys, take care. We'll do it again. Rob, anything tomorrow or is it just Wednesday?

• 2:17:02Speaker 07

  Wednesday.

• 2:17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, we'll see you guys. God bless. Take care. Bye bye.

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