Fraud Friday: Welcome to Boo Boo City w/ Brittani Warrick

Laci welcomes Brittani Warrick (28 Days) to discuss how a 19th-century Scottish man convinced people to establish the new country of Poyais; however, it didn’t actually exist. Plus, one antique store goes viral after a TikToker exposes the real cost of antique swans. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 03/14/2022) CONgregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Brittani Warrick: @projectbrittani Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.distractify.com/p/tiktok-goodwill-thrift-shop https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofScotland/Gregor-MacGregor-Prince-Of-Poyais/ https://allthatsinteresting.com/gregor-macgregor https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-untold-truth-about-poyais-a-dead-land-sold-as-a-mystical-paradise-bf6719715229

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:06Speaker 02

  Even on my antidepressant, I still struggled with depression symptoms.

• 1:09Speaker 03

  You okay, honey?

• 1:11Speaker 02

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• 1:56Speaker 03

  Hey, how you doing, honey?

• 1:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:58Speaker 03

  Okay-ish.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  No, ish. I'm okay, really.

• 2:02Speaker 04

  Ask your doctor about adding Rexulti.

• 2:07Laci Mosley?

  West Pop In Congregation. It's your girl Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay Schemin.

• 2:49Laci Mosley?

  West Pop In Congregation, it's your girl Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and we're back for another installment of Scam Goddess. No, you don't have your, uh, I couldn't even keep the speed up. I was gonna say, no, you don't have your thing turned up to 1.5. I'm just talking this fast. But, uh, yeah, I don't know, I have a lot of energy today. We were recording a lot of these today. And by a lot, I mean two. That's a lot for me. Uh, guys, this is a podcast all about fraud, robberies, con. We love to praise those who practice it or condemn them, because sometimes they're bad people. I am very excited for this guest today. She herself says that she scammed her way onto the podcast, which I think is a lie. She is hilarious and very entertaining on every platform that I follow her on.

• 3:32Laci Mosley?

  She's a creative director and digital strategist, and if you don't know about her, she's the genius behind the legendary Dionne Warwick's social media profile and brand. Recently Forbes published an article about her. Come on, Forbes! And currently, she's a digital marketer at Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith's company, The Westbrook Media. Congregation, please welcome Brittany Warwick to the show. Hi, Brittany.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  Thank you. Hi, that was like, really, really professionally done. Like, like one of those like, Lunesta ads, where you just like, just go straight through it.

• 4:04Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no, not the Lunesta one, and I'm like, "In addition to sleeping, you might drive your car, kill people, do racism on the internet, kill yourself, a loved one, you may not be able to wa-" You know, like-

• 4:15Speaker 02

  Bucked, bucked.

• 4:16Laci Mosley?

  I would love to get that gig. I mean-

• 4:19Speaker 02

  Right? I saw someone on TikTok, um, I'm always on TikTok- Talk, by the way, I don't know if you follow me on Twitter, lol, just kidding, you do, we follow each other. But uh, there's this girl that like actively does it. And she doesn't speed her voice up, she just speaks that fast. I'm like, how on earth are you doing that?

• 4:37Laci Mosley?

  Is she doing this professionally? Like are the pharmacy girls calling her?

• 4:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, the pharmacy girls are calling her.

• 4:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wow.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  And the lawyer girls.

• 4:46Laci Mosley?

  The lawyer girl? Now what? Now what do lawyers call?

• 4:48Speaker 02

  You know those Saleno and Barnes, R I P, R I P, but.

• 4:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. And then they broke up, because which one is still alive? Is it Saleno or Barnes?

• 4:59Speaker 02

  I don't know, but I feel bad for bringing them up because like rip.

• 5:03Laci Mosley?

  They had, yeah, it was, I think I talked about that, because there was some tea over there about that.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Uh, oh, yeah, there was. I don't know what the tea was, but there was hot, there was some tea.

• 5:11Laci Mosley?

  Man, but I, I will say, like. One of the things, this is so random, but one of the things I think about sometimes, like if I went to jail and I had to do like a first phone call, right? And like I could call my mother, I know my mother's number, but she doesn't live in Los Angeles, so like that wouldn't be like a good number to call. So I'm like, who am I calling to bail me out? And I really don't know my friends' phone numbers like that, I'm so trifling, like everything is pretty saved in my phone, so I'm like, I think I would be in there like. One hundred eight eight eight, eight eight eight eight.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  They would help you though. They would probably help you.

• 5:43Laci Mosley?

  Right, I would have to call them and be like, hey, Saleno and them, yeah, y'all don't know me.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Bye, goodbye.

• 5:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't know me, then I'm gonna sound like Alicia Keys in that interlude, like, I look different outside my work clothes.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh, um, can we talk about how that whole entire song is just like so creepy? No shade, but like also like, why was he drinking hot chocolate with fish and what was it? Something else?

• 6:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what was his order? Because it was weird.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  It was like fish and like some green, I think it was greens, collard greens, fish, fried fish. Can't forget the fried.

• 6:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  Hot chocolate with cream, like, are you okay, sir?

• 6:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I feel like I don't want to date you, I feel like you be farting a lot.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  Also, like, why do you eat like that?

• 6:33Laci Mosley?

  What's going on?

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Like, what's going, are you okay? Yeah.

• 6:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're absolutely right about that, it does feel like, uh.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  And every Wednesday, like, are you, you have to go to jail, like. What are you doing? It's, are you from jail?

• 6:51Speaker 02

  It's giving penitentiary behavior for sure. I don't, I don't know.

• 6:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's, I mean, listen, if you've been incarcerated and you come out, look, that is no shade, okay? Prison is a scam. And if that scam got you, then, you know, hate to hear it, but we do, I do love prison TikTok, where they be cooking food and stuff. And I'm like, They make Laffy Taffy and like all types of stuff. And I'm glad that they have TikTok. I saw some losers on there talking about, how'd they get these phones?

• 7:21Laci Mosley?

  In jail, you losers. Like, let them have some fun. They're still human beings, weirdos.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  Their little Addison Rae stolen dances, like if that's what they wanna do.

• 7:31Laci Mosley?

  That Addison stole from the black people. Let them do those.

• 7:36Laci Mosley?

  I have to ask Brittany before we get started. Brittany, what is your relationship to scams? Have you ever been scammed? Do you like them? Do you hate them? Like, what's your, where you at?

• 7:44Speaker 02

  You know, I feel like life is a scam.

• 7:48Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  This thing, and I don't know if that takes us to an existential crisis mode, but like, um, credit scores, um, that's a scam, you know.

• 8:00Laci Mosley?

  In like the eighties?

• 8:01Speaker 02

  Right. Like, I have a point attached to my name. I have a social security number that we pay into, but like, done de esta, them funds, like, where's that at?

• 8:12Laci Mosley?

  Funds aren't coming. That reminds me of that one tweet that, I don't know who originated it, cause you know, when a tweet goes viral, everyone steals it. But that one tweet that was like, uh, credit karma, you're on a roll. And then Experian's like, no, the fuck you not.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  You know what's really funny is I have, so I pay for the Experian, um, red carpet, white glove experience, if you will. Like, I pay for the.

• 8:37Laci Mosley?

  What does that entail?

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Uh, right, exactly. I, it's probably a scam now that I'm talking about it. Um, but anyway, you, you pay to get like the full features on the app, so you can like really see what's going on. Then you can pay for like to see about if you're on the dark web, which is scary.

• 8:51Laci Mosley?

  Oh, now what are these full features? So are you on the dark web? What else will they tell you?

• 8:56Speaker 02

  Is your social security number compromised? Who's using it? Is your, like, which email addresses are compromised? You get all three of your scores. Um, I want to reiterate that that, those scores are a scam, but you get them. Um, and you, you get to refresh them like once a month or something like that. Whereas Credit Karma's like, you're doing great, girlfriend. Like, no problem. Don't even check the app. Like, you're fine. And then the Experian app is just like, no.

• 9:21Laci Mosley?

  See, I think it's a little messed up that in order to know if someone is using my social security number, I gotta run Experian some duckets. Like, I just feel like that's something that is, I should, should be aware of. If that's a crime, that's a crime, I'm pretty sure. That's like if a crime happened to you and the police was like, okay, babe, we know who broke into your car. We do. But, uh, you know, they defunded us, so we just.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  Twelve ninety-nine.

• 9:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we gonna need twelve ninety-nine and then we will definitely tell you who robbed you. Who broke into your house.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  The IRS is like, we know how much you owe and you owe it. And this is the date that we want you to pay it. And you're like, okay, cool, cool. Like, how much is it?

• 10:01Laci Mosley?

  Guess.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  You gotta guess it. And if you don't guess it correctly, then we're gonna send you to federal prison. And that's just what, there's no in-between, like.

• 10:09Laci Mosley?

  Wesley Snipes, okay? Lauryn Hill, you going to jail. But, uh, going back to the credit thing, cause I think that's also interesting. It's like, uh, and I will do more research on this because I want to actually talk about this. But it's funny to me that somebody was like, yeah, we just gonna become the credit bureau. Because whenever we think about gor-, like, government organizations or anything, I think that they, we remove the humanity from laws, from lawmakers, from the Declaration of Independence, all this bullshit, right? From the Constitution. We remove the fact that this is just a bunch of people in the room, usually all white dudes, who was like, let's make some institutions up, y'all. Like, what?

• 10:48Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 10:49Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean? So, can I add to the credit bureau? I would like to make another, like, we got three scores. I want a fourth one that's just vibes. Like, if your vibes are bad, then you can't rent places.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  Then you can't, like, I, I, I get that then. Like, oh, you have bad vibes, I'm not gonna let you rent my home. That makes sense to me. Also, like, can we get, like, some people of color in the bureau? So that we'd be like, oh, this is, like, this black man just wants a car. Like, that's fine. Get a car. I don't know. I just feel like it's a scam. It's all scam.

• 11:16Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it is, and it's a scam to keep people poor, cuz like your interest rates are gonna be much higher if you're already broke, which makes no sense. It's like, don't they not have the money? Yeah, but we have to worry about them not paying at all. It's like, okay, girl.

• 11:30Laci Mosley?

  I could spend my life doing that, just vibes assessment. People come, sit down. It only takes like five to ten seconds and I'll be like, yeah, give them a home.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  No home for them.

• 11:41Laci Mosley?

  No home for them.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  No home for them, but them, this is fine. Yeah.

• 11:46Laci Mosley?

  Home, but not an apartment. They should not live near people.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  A farmhouse.

• 11:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Like you could just, yeah, I feel you. We're on the same page.

• 11:54Laci Mosley?

  Wait, I sign where you live. I'm like, they live in the woods, okay? He's like, but I work at, I work at Lockheed Martin. I'm like, well, you're gonna have to commute.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  You gotta commute.

• 12:05Laci Mosley?

  Cuz you need to work in the woods.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  In your car that I assessed on your vibes that you could have.

• 12:11Laci Mosley?

  It's giving Ford F-150. That's what you can have.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  It's giving Hyundai behavior, but you can have one and that's fine.

• 12:19Laci Mosley?

  Right. Oh, my first car was a Hyundai. Traggy. I got that one in a wreck so fast.

• 12:27Laci Mosley?

  And this, everyone on this podcast knows I'm a terrible driver. It's just fact.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  Oh, yikes, man.

• 12:31Laci Mosley?

  I know. It's cool, though. You're not be out here on vibes. I've really let Jesus take the wheel. Like, he's fully in control.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  For LA, like, I, everyone, or maybe you contribute to the LA vibes of like, the driving, cuz.

• 12:47Laci Mosley?

  I do. I, I, I'm like, Jesus, take the wheel, take the brakes and the gear shift.

• 12:54Laci Mosley?

  In the car, you know? I'm just there. I'm a body in the car.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  You just showed up.

• 13:00Laci Mosley?

  But I will say it makes me very forgiving. Like, when people do dumb shit on the road, like, I do get annoyed, but I'm not gonna honk at you. I'm not gonna yell. Like, I think that's such a waste of energy. I was going, uh, to get a facial yesterday and I, I was using, um, GPS to get where I was going and sometimes my GPS be playing, it'd be like, eh, two hundred feet. And I'm like, how much is two hundred feet and how much is, is, is point three of a mile? Because they seem to be the same. Like, I'll, I'll be like, oh, take a right and point three a mile. And it's like, right now, right now. I'm like, wait a minute. But guys, we're gonna move into our first segment here. Wow, it's gonna be a lot of tangents. Can you tell? Um, and that's fine. Uh, we're gonna move to our first segment here. What's hot in fraud? As always, snitch on your friends and family at [email protected].

• 13:45Laci Mosley?

  Just make sure the scam is retired, because we don't want a what? Yes, fuck up your bag. And I'm gonna preface this before we start this letter today, guys. I love y'all congregation, love you so much, but when it comes to testimony, brevity, girls, brevity, brevity, because these emails are getting really, really long. Y'all giving me y'all whole life story. I'm trying to edit them down. And I would love to share the things that you share with me, but if they're too long, I have to move on. Um, also, that email inbox is not, it's not a complaints box, okay? Don't send me, don't send me your complaints about this podcast. It is free, okay? I'm a black woman giving you free things.

• 14:28Laci Mosley?

  And you got the gall, the unmitigated gall to send me emails talking about, well, you know, I'm a white woman and I'm not racist. Don't you email a single person, a black person that you know with no shenanigans and tomfoolery and malarkey like that, okay? I told y'all, if y'all want to talk about race, talk about it with other white people, together, when we're not there. Period. That way, that way, no one's looking at us like, could you please explain racism to me? That's not, and if you're not racist, it don't apply, let it fly. Like, don't take it personally, okay? Good lord. If the shoe don't fit, like, just move on. Then you must have quit, no, but, okay, love you.

• 15:12Laci Mosley?

  Period. Clog up the inbox. Scams!

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• 17:15Laci Mosley?

  So I need a fake name for this person. We don't care about gender, Britney, just make up any name you see fit.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. I don't know. How about Paul Revere?

• 17:27Laci Mosley?

  Paul Revere, huh. The most famous gossip. Nobody was out here spilling tea like Paul. When Paul heard the British were coming, he said, oh, I gotta let the girls know.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  Let the girls know.

• 17:41Laci Mosley?

  Let me get on my horse, okay? Nobody has ever sprayed gossip faster than Paul Revere. He said, what?

• 17:47Speaker 02

  So what, the, excuse me?

• 17:49Laci Mosley?

  Yo, go, go tell, uh, uh, slave, slave five to bring me my long johns.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  He's like, but don't tell anyone. Okay, I won't tell anyone. Let me just get my horse real quick, though.

• 18:01Laci Mosley?

  Right. No, I'm just gonna take a, you know, I like a little night ride sometimes. Clear my head.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Just the breeze.

• 18:07Laci Mosley?

  And I imagine if he's on a horse, like, did he get off the horse? Or was he just yelling like, ay?

• 18:11Speaker 02

  He was just, I think he might have just been yelling.

• 18:14Laci Mosley?

  Which makes it better a little bit, right? Right. Honestly, if I had to do worse, that's the job that I would want, you know? Right. You get clout, everybody knows your name, but you don't ever have to stop and actually do the battles. Horse, like, your hair's flowing, like, it all works out. So, uh, Paul Revere says, I left a comment on Instagram about clients who've, oh, okay, okay. So you left a comment on the Scam Guys Pod Instagram. Yes. And then I was like, please email. Alrighty. So, thank you for the context, Paul Revere. Paul Revere says, I love my job and I have all the tea. Clients tell hairstylists everything. I know things that would make Jesus blush. I know that's right. I do tell my hairstylists everything.

• 18:58Laci Mosley?

  Me too. Me too. Tomorrow. It's something about when they touch your head, they just let all your secrets go. That's where they're hiding in your hair. She literally knows everything. I, like, I need to her to sign an NDA now that I'm thinking about it. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Right. Yeah. No, you might have to.

• 19:14Laci Mosley?

  Might have to get all scandal and be six thirteen on your hairstylist. Hell, we all need to. That's what should really be doing the extortion out here. Hey, Melissa, what you doing here? I'm, I'm, I'm not due for another, another week, for two weeks. Yeah, that's not why I'm here.

• 19:31Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. We need to put them under an NDA. Anyways. We do. High, high surveillance for the hairstylist. So anyway, throughout the years, I've had several people try some slick shit to get free hair. Free hair. Okay. I do have to give my scammer slash criminal ex-boyfriend some credit for putting me on game, which is one of the reasons none of these clients have ever been able to pull a fast one on me. Okay, so I like that your ex-boyfriend did something right. Yeah, obviously he's gone and. There's a reason for that, but that's good. Right. Yeah. So some honorable mentions. A client whose husband is definitely like a computer hacker. Like, I think the type that steals credit card numbers and then she would always pay in full upfront for different PayPal accounts.

• 20:12Laci Mosley?

  She always would make new accounts. Yeah, I feel like you should just really have one PayPal account. Like, I feel like. No, for sure. No, for sure. Like, if you have several. Then that's. Like, if I'm like. Right. Jail, but yeah. Yeah, if I have to Venmo you and you're like, yeah, I got a new Venmo. How many, you shouldn't have new Venmos. No, I should have, just won't. And that's where we stand. If you just ha- keep having a new one, I really can't do it. I think any new thing when it comes to your finances, like maybe you switch banks once or twice, but like if you just got a new bank. Every new bank who this, like that's. The authorities will be called. I'm like, why, why are you doing this? Why are you moving around so much? It's not like shoes. You know, you shouldn't be changing your bank like you change your shoes. Your PayPal, you know?

• 20:56Laci Mosley?

  Um, so she's, so basically she's paying with different PayPals all the time and very sketchy. Okay. Uh, another woman texted me for three days straight telling me how much she loved her hair after I did a huge color correction and new extensions. Then on the fourth day, it all changed. She told me she was off her meds before I did her hair. Uh. She said it was all wrong and wanted her money back and that her uncle is a lawyer and that. She, that I didn't have the license to do extensions. I told her I'm a licensed cosmetologist and I will no longer be speaking to her since she threatened legal action. Especially when I did nothing wrong. Long story short, she tried to dispute the charges with her credit card company. When she couldn't scare me into giving her the money back. I sent the screenshots in my reply to the credit card company and got a real nasty text.

• 21:40Laci Mosley?

  When she found out that they denied her claim. I hope that, okay, um, I'm not gonna blame this on mental illness. She says I hope she's back in her meds, but I'm not gonna. Yeah, I don't agree with that, Paul Revere. Um, outside of that, like I've never thought to try to return a hairstyle. No, I didn't think that that was a returnable item. Think that that's something you. Shout out, Tarina. Um, well, ask me, is this what you want? Is this matching what you're asking for? And I'll either say yes or no. And I feel like it's non-refundable, right? Yeah, I just don't think, how do you get a? How do you return it? One of those things, it's like if you go to the dentist and you get a cleaning, you're like, I don't want that. I don't like this. Yeah. Yeah.

• 22:25Laci Mosley?

  Take it back. Yeah, I guess you could be dissatisfied with your service and then perhaps ask for a discount or a refund. But even then, it's like.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Do you, do people do that? That's wild. That's crazy.

• 22:38Laci Mosley?

  I have never heard of that. I just didn't think you could do that. Now, I have returned some extensions that were not the quality that they normally are or whatever. I've definitely done that.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Human hair?

• 22:47Laci Mosley?

  Everything's, yeah. Once something's in your head, though, once it's sewn into your head and colored and stuff, I just feel like you have to go with that.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, go with God.

• 22:57Laci Mosley?

  Very funny that she jumped to legal action immediately. She was like, my uncle's a lawyer and he'll sue you. Like, how much was this hair, girl? Cause I feel like it's not giving, like, let's go to court.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  Like, small claims, like Judge Mathis. Like, he's not gonna look at that. He's not looking at that. Also, like, he said off, she said that she was off of her medication, um, which I won't really touch on, although as a fellow mental health girl, for the girlies, um, with the SADS, is what I like to call them, um, that's, that's some information that's important, I think.

• 23:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but at the same time, I don't know if her mentioning that was her trying to season up her story because she was the one who mentioned it to Paul Revere. So, it just seems like she's trying to give a lot of factors as to why she loved the hair. And then now she's like, no, now that I'm in my right mind again, I hate the hair.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 23:53Laci Mosley?

  So, obviously, the, the woman who tried to threaten legal action did not get a refund on her hair weave. Um, but she tried, you know?

• 24:02Speaker 02

  She has tried.

• 24:03Laci Mosley?

  Of course, I have the IG OnlyFan model, uh, girls who get their hair paid for before they go on a trip to Dubai, but I don't consider these a scam. Get your money, girl. Yeah, I don't know why you wrote that in there. That's not a scam. That's a part of the, the list of requirements.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Right, right, right, right.

• 24:19Laci Mosley?

  So, since I've seen my fair share of people doing something strange for a piece of change for hair extensions, okay. But this one client from November will probably forever claim the top spot. The particular client had come to me a few times over the past year. She already had extensions from someone else and they were messed up. I fixed them a few times for her. She never wanted to pay what I charged for a full appointment with new hair install. So, a few times, I would just charge her for the maintenance appointments. I eventually told her she would need to pay for new hair in an installment, since I'm running a business and this is my income. She said she could not afford it and, okay, I mean, it just sounds like she couldn't. I don't know, girl. Some of these scams that you wrote in here aren't really sounding like scams. It just sounds like people who were broke.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  If you can't afford it. Also, like, why are you booking? A service if you can't pay for it.

• 25:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. I I mean, you'd be surprised. People will do this. Um, so she says this goes on for a while, about six months passes and I get a frantic call from her that she absolutely has to have extensions done for the holidays and she has the money. Mind you, I'm booked out three months ahead, but there's always room for money. The appointment would be between three thousand and four thousand dollars. Wait.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  For what?

• 25:26Laci Mosley?

  Holidays.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  For what?

• 25:28Laci Mosley?

  Three to four thousand dollars for one appointment?

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Who? Who scamming? Are they? What is it? What? I can't even find them. What are you doing?

• 25:39Laci Mosley?

  Are you doing like hair plugs? Like are they getting weave plugs? Like they?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Golden hair plugs.

• 25:45Laci Mosley?

  Are you putting the hair extension in the scalp?

• 25:47Speaker 02

  I think Paul, is this still Paul?

• 25:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this is Paul talking.

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Paul needs jail, cuz that that's that's not. Why are you doing that?

• 25:56Laci Mosley?

  For who? Three to four thousand dollars. What are you getting done to your hair?

• 26:01Speaker 02

  Paul, come on, man.

• 26:05Laci Mosley?

  Now I understand. You, Paul, you was over here calling the girlies poor, but you you charging? This is a down payment on the car.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  They're not poor. You're just insane. Like, what do you mean? Maybe they're they wanna pay the the right amount. And he's like, no, no, no. That's like, I need six thousand dollars.

• 26:22Laci Mosley?

  I mean, look, there are some celebrity hairstylists who will charge for like, you know, expensive highlights and stuff like that, but three to four thousand dollars, like, bro, that's a down payment on a Honda Civic.

• 26:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's insane.

• 26:33Laci Mosley?

  Or one hairstyle? One?

• 26:35Speaker 02

  What is it? Now I need to know what the style is. Does Paul elaborate on that?

• 26:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I just so.

• 26:44Laci Mosley?

  You know, this letter, it's all over the place and it's very long. But what I'm surmising at this point is Paul, you might be the one running game because three to four.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  You might be the problem.

• 26:55Laci Mosley?

  Hairstylists, y'all reach out to me. I've I've been getting my hairs did, you know, for a long time as an African American woman. And, you know, my mom went to cosmetology school cuz for fun.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  Mine too. Is that a black? Mom thing?

• 27:09Laci Mosley?

  Uh, maybe, because when I was in Florida, my mom was like, I don't wanna work. I'm gonna go to cosmetology school. Okay, sis. Not her profession at all. She just went and hasn't.

• 27:20Speaker 02

  Had done it, okay.

• 27:22Laci Mosley?

  Maybe it's a black mom thing. Damn, I might need to go to cosmetology school.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Same, like, that's a rite of passage.

• 27:30Laci Mosley?

  Right, I gotta make sure the kids look good. So, so I tell her the total, is what Paul says. Um, so I tell her the total must be paid upfront in cash and she has to come in the next day for a consultation. She says, I have a credit card and a debit card. Um, do you have money though?

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Like, does it, we, I have these, these items, but like.

• 27:53Laci Mosley?

  I got a credit card and a debit card.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  And a Venmo, like, what else?

• 27:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm pretty sure that a debit card, you know, you can take that to a, uh, automatic telling machine. Uh, telling machine, and then they, you can extract cash.

• 28:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's how they work. And even with a.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  Brand out.

• 28:10Laci Mosley?

  Fee on a credit card, you can get cash out, um, which is wild.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  You can also do Zelle.

• 28:17Laci Mosley?

  Right, which is as good as cash. So, um, but she says, so Paul Revere said, three to four K, I'm gonna need it upfront in cash. Bricks, run it up. And homegirl said, I, I have a credit card and a debit card. And Paul said, no, no, no, lol. I told her, cash only. I already knew those cards were not hers. The day of the consultation, see, Paul. Now that's how I know you are part of this scam, cuz you're like, look, I know that she stole them credit cards.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  I know what that looks like. I know the vibes, like, cuz I do it. Cuz I do it. And so I know what it looks like, yeah. Paul, uh, honestly, Paul, like, this. You're the, I think you're the problem here. And also, like, I need to see what the hairstyles are because, um.

• 29:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Paul, I'm gonna need you to send us some photos, cuz three to four thousand for a hairstyle, Paul. I need to know what you're doing over there.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  What are you doing?

• 29:07Laci Mosley?

  Clearly miracles. Paul, are you a witch?

• 29:11Laci Mosley?

  The day of the consultation, she calls me about ten minutes before the appointment and says her grandma, who is paying for her hair apparently, cannot give her a ride. She's having back spasms. This woman is in her late forties, the woman who's getting her hair done. She asked me, how am I going to get there? Girl, I don't know. So I say Uber or Lyft. She says her Uber is broken. And can I send her an Uber? Now, normally, the second I sense any malarkey or foot, I just stop responding to people. That's the advantage of owning your own business. But for some reason on that day, I was open to some almost free entertainment. So I sent her an Uber to get to my salon. It only cost me twenty dollars. I reiterated that she must have the full amount in cash to pay for the appointment. And when she arrives for the consultation, she replies, I have more than you need. Okay, that sounds like a threat.

• 29:55Laci Mosley?

  Right. She arrives to the salon, clearly, um, hi. I do the consultation, colored and matcha extension swatches. Um, okay, and she explains the hair and I don't need to know that. So I look at her like, okay, where's the money? Honestly, I knew she was never gonna go through with it, but I just really wanted to see what her audacity inspired her to attempt. She asked if we can talk outside and tells me she has a gift for me. At this point, I think she's gonna try to pay me in drugs. Oh, no, it was even worse. We walk outside, she pulls out a bag of jewelry from her purse. She explains that her grandma was not able to pull the money out because of back spasms. So she went in her safe at her grandma's house and pulled out jewelry. The client is claiming the jewelry belongs to her,

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  but just told me she took it from the safe at her grandma's house. She also has some printed out forms that were supposedly proof that the jewelry is real. Some of the jewelry may have been real, but some of it looked fake and like it was from a mall kiosk. Not Paul, now why are you inspecting the jewels? Cause he's a thief. Paul is a thief. It takes one to know one, sir, madam. I tell her, no, the fool about has me paying cash. She becomes irate, asks if I can just trust her and uh, use my own money to order the hair and she'll pay when she comes back from her appointment next week, girl, bye. I tell her, if she can come back by the end of the day, I'll keep her appointment. If not, I'll cancel it. Obviously, I don't hear from her going about my week, da da da da da. Anyway, okay. Um, Lord, and then there's a text exchange, it's too long, we have to move on. But, uh, Paul Revere, I think you might be a scammer.

• 31:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I think you might. Have you been to jail? That's a question that I need to know the answer to. And also, if you

• 31:29Speaker 02

  The company you keep, you every, we are all mirrors, not to get philosophical, but we see ourselves in other people. So are you attracting other criminals? Because you clearly are one, is what I think.

• 31:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's giving criminal because

• 31:46Speaker 02

  It's giving criminal.

• 31:47Laci Mosley?

  Like she literally just told you that she stole these jewels and you're like, and you know they're stolen. You know that you're getting stolen credit cards. You know that all this stuff is fraudulent. You're like, well, as long as it can't be traced back to me. Now, if you want this three thousand to four thousand dollar hairstyle.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  It's shady.

• 32:03Laci Mosley?

  You need to go pawn your greatest jewels real quick and then come back.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  And also like entertaining, like saying you're entertaining the whole experience, like you, you had wanted to do a crime today. And you should just say that.

• 32:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you could just say that. If you wanted to do crime, just say that. Girl, I don't know if you be getting scammed, Paul. I don't know if you're getting scammed. I feel like you might be doing the scams and you're dealing with scammers. So that's your clientele. If your clientele is all criminals, then you know what you get. There's no honor among them.

• 32:32Speaker 02

  And also, hey, coming from someone who's doing marketing, market it. Maybe make like, you know, make it a

• 32:39Laci Mosley?

  You're a criminal's hairstylist. You know what I mean?

• 32:42Speaker 02

  You could coin it. I mean, you might go to jail easier, but.

• 32:45Laci Mosley?

  I don't know if you would. I mean, you could really sell it as like you, you, you give the great court looks, like coming here and get, you know, your hair, get silk pressed before your indictment.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  Market that. That's some free, some free advice, Polly. Why don't you go ahead and market that you're criminal because you are.

• 33:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Paul. Paul, you scammed me out of half my damn show with that long ass sweater where you turned out to be the scammer. Love you, Paul. Um, please keep listening, Paul. Um, I also feel like I'm afraid of you, Paul. So like, just know, these are all jokes. I love you, Paul.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  For legal reasons.

• 33:20Laci Mosley?

  Can't wait to get my four thousand dollar hair done. Okay, it's gonna be everything.

• 33:27Laci Mosley?

  Everything. It's gonna be everything I have.

• 33:33Laci Mosley?

  Robbery.

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• 35:32Laci Mosley?

  And fraud. It's time for my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwings, which uh we might have to blaze through this one today, otherwise this is gonna be long. Good lord, Paul, you really, you robbed me, Paul. Oh. No, it's not Paul no more. I was just addressing Paul one more time. This whole show is about Paul now.

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  Paul scared me out of a whole episode. Episode. So Historic Hoodwings. So this is where we regale Brittany with a famous con, caper, group of criminals. We don't know yet. Maybe we love them. Maybe we hate them. We'll get our opinions all throughout. Let's see what we're dealing with today. So in Historic Hoodwings today, we're talking about a, a young Scottish man. So Sir Gregor McGregor, to some, told the people of his hometown about a paradise he had found in South America. All anyone would have to do to see it was invest with him. However, little do they know, the country of poyers didn't actually exist. Um, and I'm having immediate flashbacks because um, if you listen to Behind the Bastards,

• 36:32Laci Mosley?

  I have talked about poyers, um, but on that show. So here we are. It's made its way over here. Um, a little bit about Gregor McGregor. Gregor was born on the 24th of December, 1786, to the clan McGregor, a clan notable for strong family tradition of fighting. Okay, sir. That's what your family legacy was giving. Like some people like, oh, we bake the best bread. Oh, we throw hands. We throw hands. Yeah. We violent. My family does violence to people. That's what we do.

• 37:08Laci Mosley?

  No, let me know if y'all need some violence done. Cause I know a person. I know a guy. Yeah, it's a, it's the family business. Like everybody gets in the family business when they grow up. You're the one kid who wants to like make art. McGregor. Right. It makes me think of that boxer, but you're the one. Yeah. Right. He throws hands. He does throw hands. He must, this must be his family, um, which makes sense. Keep that tradition going. I would love to be like the one McGregor who like wants to make art or something and like, now you know that's not what we do here. We're Macgregors. We make kite.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  Like they want to make a kite dad.

• 37:40Laci Mosley?

  Get them fists up.

• 37:44Laci Mosley?

  You trying to paint, they like nah, you gotta throw hands. We don't use the hands to make art, okay?

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Closed fist.

• 37:50Laci Mosley?

  Hands and legs in this family, okay?

• 37:55Laci Mosley?

  His father was Daniel McGregor, an East India Company sea captain, and his grandfather had served with the distinction in the Scottish Royal Army. So he served with distinction, excuse me, y'all know I know war stuff. So obviously, the girls are like, they they're getting, if you throw hands, what do you do? You go to wars. You know?

• 38:15Speaker 02

  That makes sense.

• 38:17Laci Mosley?

  You get distinction titles and you go to wars, you know, love that. So he was also distantly related to the infamous Scottish outlaw, Rob Roy McGregor. At the age of sixteen, Gregor joined the British Army just as the Napoleonic Wars were about to begin. After only a year of serving in the fifty-seven foot regiment, Gregor was promoted to lieutenant. So he's only been working in the Army with the Army Girls for a year and they were like, you are now Army Manager.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  Manager, Army.

• 38:46Laci Mosley?

  You are Soldier of the Month.

• 38:50Laci Mosley?

  Rose amongst the ranks. At the age of nineteen, he married Maria Bowwater, a well-connected wealthy woman whose father also happened to be a Royal Navy Admiral. Now comfortably wealthy Gregory, or Gregor, excuse me, set up a home with Maria, Maria. Family's rich and my family can fight and then they got married. So he set up a home with Maria and subsequently rejoined his regiment at Gibraltar. Uh, Gregor used his newfound wealth to buy a rank of captain, so now he done bought himself a captain rank. So he, I guess at this time, like you could get higher up in the military. If you had money.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 39:37Laci Mosley?

  So he bought himself a captain position, which obviously like he hasn't been doing wars that long. Girl, I'm ready to lead the wars. And this is him.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, he looks like, oh, the close up makes it worse.

• 39:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's like.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  It's giving, it's giving Pinocchio pre wood and boy.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  It's giving, it's giving saw, right?

• 40:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it is kind of giving saw. His face is very soft. I'd imagine it would feel like a

• 40:10Speaker 02

  I don't like it.

• 40:12Laci Mosley?

  His face is so soft.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  I don't like it. And also, where's the hairline? I know that's, it's not about his hairline, but like, where is it?

• 40:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  Maybe he needs to see Paul because.

• 40:21Laci Mosley?

  His, yeah, his hairline is, this is a lot of rough terrain. He looks like he might need like a $4,000 hairstyle.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  Oh, the close up again is really getting me.

• 40:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, we gotta zoom back out, y'all. This is, that's good. Oh, thank you. Oh, Lord. He does have the kind of face that you want to punch. So I understand now why the family is fighting a lot. So Gregor used his newfound wealth to buy the rank of captain. He, you know, he's moving up roughly. He's spent around 90 pounds or nearly 110,000 US dollars today. Instead of taking the seven years for normal promotions. So he was like, I want a promotion. I think it's very weird that we're giving promotions in the army not based merit based. Cause I think that's just like one of those jobs where like, I do really need you to know what you're doing. Like, I wouldn't want a nepotistic pilot. Like, I don't want, my dad was a pilot. Now fasten y'all seatbelts.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Give it a go. Like, let's do it. No, no, thanks.

• 41:14Laci Mosley?

  We at 35,000 feet or whatever? No.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  No, thank you.

• 41:19Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, I'm gonna need you to know how to do that. I'd like war. I don't want to do wars when people are inexperienced.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  If you can't do a war, then don't do it. I think that should be, that should be the law, the logline, the tagline.

• 41:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  If you can't do it, don't do it.

• 41:36Laci Mosley?

  Right. I think you just need to have qualifications. Like, these are the jobs where you need to have qualifications, not just vibes. So he eventually discharged after a disagreement with a senior officer and returned from the army to settle in Edinburgh after a nine-year military career. So nine years? So you got married to Maria, then you left for like many years?

• 41:56Speaker 02

  And where's he getting the blush from? I know it's not about his looks, but where's the blush coming?

• 42:01Laci Mosley?

  From on his face because he put too much on. I know it's not about that. Yeah, it's it's it's too much.

• 42:12Laci Mosley?

  I I I mean, I guess back in the day, you know, there's some cherries, some strawberries. I don't know.

• 42:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So when he returned, Gregor attempted to pass himself off as an important man from an important family and subsequently began calling himself Sir Gregor McGregor. He was like, how can I make this name fancier? More McGregor's. Yeah, more of it. Just like a like half an inch more. And a sir. He I'm like, I don't think any queen has ever laid her katana on your shoulders, but I guess you knighted, huh? You just knighted yourself? They don't know. Who go check me boo? Right. So however, his grand plans of wealth and notoriety were gone after the death of his wife shortly after his return. Left a poor widower, Greg Gregor came up with another plan to aid his ventures.

• 42:58Laci Mosley?

  Travel to South America and become the general of a division in the army of Venezuela and New Granada at the age of just thirty. Uh, so. Oh. Oh, that's thirty? In the seventeen hundreds, thirty is rough. Rough. Oh, we be living hard, huh? Oh. Wow. I don't. It's where's the blush now? Right, just like a banana in the sun. That's the kind of aging we doing. This is tragic. So in the ensuing months, he went on to marry another wealthy heiress. Donna, Josepia, Antonia, Andrea, Aristegueta, Illovera.

• 43:37Laci Mosley?

  Uh, that is a name. Now Gregor McGregor McGregor, I don't I'm not even mad at you for adding a McGregor. Okay, she's a baddie though. She's cute. She was giving. She didn't want him. No, she did not. Oh, sweetie. Also, like, why are you giving your wealth to this man? So is she fourteen? Yeah, you know, this, these are the bad times. I mean, we still live in the bad times, but she don't look that old for sure.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  Look at him.

• 44:04Laci Mosley?

  Daya, Daya, they did you dirty. Whoever your daddy, whoever did this, this is whack, cuz you was a daddy. Like, I, I really feel so sorry for you, Daya. So, he continued to distinguish himself as a talented and courageous general of wars and independence fought by Spanish colonies in Latin America. His many feats of bravery included successfully capturing a small island off the coast of Florida with only a hundred men. And I feel like whenever they tell these types of stories, like, the only people who were at the war were the people who were at the war. So they can say whatever they want happened.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 44:35Laci Mosley?

  Like, who gonna check them?

• 44:36Speaker 01

  No one.

• 44:37Laci Mosley?

  They didn't have cell phones, like, you know what I mean? They could say they did anything.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  No one's gonna Google it. No one's gonna say that, well, let me check it out. Nope. It is what it is.

• 44:46Laci Mosley?

  That's what I realized when I used, I'm from Texas, so we always had to, uh, read the stories about the Alamo and shit. And then I remember we went to the Alamo. And it was so small. It was so underwhelming. I'm like, so y'all was in here just fighting in like a, like, not even a IHOP? Like, this is the size of like...

• 45:04Speaker 01

  A Waffle House.

• 45:05Laci Mosley?

  Right, a Waffle House. It was giving Waffle House. It feels like this was just a Saturday night fight at the Waffle House. And then, for some reason, it became this folklore where we gotta remember it. Also, we lost. What do we remember in the Alamo?

• 45:17Speaker 01

  I grew up in Georgia, and they talk about, you know, Stone Mountain, which is like Civil War stuff. Uh, I get it. Cuz like, what are we talking about? What are we really discussing?

• 45:28Laci Mosley?

  Y'all inflated this.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 45:30Laci Mosley?

  A lot.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  And lost. So, like...

• 45:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, so, hold the L? Like, I feel like that's what remember the Alamo means. Hold the L.

• 45:39Speaker 01

  I like it. That's a good, that's a good tagline, too.

• 45:41Laci Mosley?

  In eighteen twenty, McGregor came across a swampy inhospitable part of the Nicaraguan coast known as the Mosquito Coast. He convinced the leader of the indigenous people to give him the land to create a colony and thus began to build his empire. So, I'm sure he thought he really outsmarted some indigenous people and was like, I got him to give me the land. And they were like, oh, you want, you mean, uh, Boo Boo City? That's what we call it. Yeah, you can have that.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Whatever, yeah. That's fine.

• 46:07Laci Mosley?

  Hey, y'all, he want Boo Boo City.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  He probably thought he's that he had got something.

• 46:14Laci Mosley?

  Right, he thought he had really colonized.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Colonized something.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  Face. I know it's not about his looks and I keep going back to it. I just can't.

• 46:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he he has, it's just his face is very, it's aggressive to look at.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  It hits the eye wrong.

• 46:32Laci Mosley?

  Very wrong, truly.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  Very, okay.

• 46:35Laci Mosley?

  Uh, poor Daya, but at least he went to war a lot, Daya, so it's not like you had to see him a lot. He was out at the wars.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  He was a war boy, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:42Laci Mosley?

  He was out doing the wars, okay?

• 46:44Speaker 02

  She could have had a side, a side.

• 46:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I hope she found her little neighborhood baddie, you know? Like a roofer or somebody who came. Yeah, to pluck the grass, cuz they didn't cut the grass back then, did they pluck it? How they, how they get it short?

• 46:58Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 46:59Laci Mosley?

  They ripped it?

• 47:01Laci Mosley?

  She had somebody coming over to rip the grass and also those walls, okay?

• 47:08Laci Mosley?

  So the beginning of Gregor's scheme, having been gifted the land, Gregor returned home with the tale of how he was the prince of Poyez. Uh, so he's telling everybody, I'm the prince of Boo Boo City. He got this land. He's the prince of it.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  Poop Palace.

• 47:24Laci Mosley?

  And he's trying to get the girls to pull up. So Poyez was an idyllic country, a little larger than Wales, located at the Bay of Honduras. It had miraculously fertile fields, clear water, and even gold in the riverbanks. And this is what he's telling people, we know it's Boo Boo City. But he was like, it's huge.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  It's giving.

• 47:42Laci Mosley?

  It's, it's, it's so much gold that I was like, oh, I can't even pick it all up.

• 47:47Speaker 02

  I can't have all this gold. I'm just gonna leave it. I left a lot of it there and like, it was just way too much.

• 47:53Laci Mosley?

  Crazy. The crop, the land is so fertile, like the land was busting, um, always wet.

• 48:03Laci Mosley?

  The crops were cropping, like I'm telling you, I need to come.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Props for crop. This man. Needs therapy.

• 48:09Laci Mosley?

  He truly does, but instead he has scams. And I love that for him. So he's telling them, you know, miraculous feels like you've never ever even seen, okay? Um, all the good people of Scotland had to do was invest a modest sum with Gregor in exchange for the promise of paradise. Gregor started publishing interviews in national newspapers and talking about the perks of investing in Boo Boo City.

• 48:34Laci Mosley?

  Poyet. So for those who had more questions, Gregor offered a guided book on Poyet. Written by Thomas Strangeways. Now, Thomas Strangeways is actually just McGregor. But he, uh, invented a pen alias, uh, that sounds like a very real name. Thomas Strangeways. So we're looking at a image and we'll post this on the Instagram of what the city of Poyet looks like according to McGregor. So he, he got some good drawings.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  Right. And also like, are you, are you gonna post his photo? Period.

• 49:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes, we are. He's very distressed by the photo.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  I'm gonna have nightmares.

• 49:17Laci Mosley?

  What he posted in this photo, we're zooming in here, is like, he says there's palm trees that are giving palm. There's even a mountain in the back. There's several boats. There's lots of birds. And you know, it looks very lush and paradise like. Yeah, I think in the background, he's even erected some houses.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a whole suburban neighborhood going on.

• 49:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like a whole city situation. So to add further legitimacy, he even printed his own money and offered people the opportunity to exchange their British sterling into Poyet dollars. Okay, come on, the first Bitcoin.

• 49:51Speaker 02

  He's committed. It's a commitment.

• 49:53Laci Mosley?

  He came up with a new coin. I love it.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  There it is.

• 49:56Laci Mosley?

  He got NFTs.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 49:59Laci Mosley?

  Get involved.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  He is, yeah. I mean, at this point, like.

• 50:03Laci Mosley?

  Even if I knew he was lying, I'd be like, sure. Right, he got money.

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  I mean, and you know, he's been in all the wars and he's been around the world. War boy. Yeah, he's a war boy. He has his imagination. He has penmanship. It's giving, it's giving. I think I'm going to Poitiers. He played off people's weariness of where they lived, their patriotism for Scotland, because Scotland had no colonies. So he's like, I'm also giving the girls a colony. Like, you know, we haven't done a lot of colonization. We've just been over here fighting.

• 50:39Laci Mosley?

  Throwing hands and we've been throwing it back. And and we need to get some colonization going on, okay? So he's taking advantage of that. And and they're they're all adventure goers. Apparently, like, that was a big part of Scottish pride was like, you know, them being hardy adventure goers. Additionally, a warm, lush paradise offered a very different life than that of the gray, dreary Scotland. As a result, Gregor raised two hundred thousand pounds, which is roughly like two hundred and seventy thousand USD. So, you know, they're just converting directly to the bond market and the value ran up to like one point three million pounds. Uh, or one point seven over his life.

• 51:21Laci Mosley?

  About three point six billion pounds. Wow, today. So if we were to convert that in today's money, it's like he raised a decent amount of capital. People got God. But his biggest success was in convincing seven ships worth of eager settlers to make their way across the Atlantic. In September eighteen twenty-two and January eighteen twenty-three, the first two ships, the Honduras Packet and the Canarsly Castle left for Poitiers, carrying some two hundred and fifty passengers. So it was like, y'all get on this Carnival cruise.

• 51:58Laci Mosley?

  With the palm trees. The subdivision that I made is a gated community come down. He over here talking about this place like it's a Frank Ocean song. Yeah, yeah, this man, I don't know, this the imagination on him. Right, so only a third of the settlers survived. And they were eventually picked up by a passing ship and taken to Belize. So when the girls got there.

• 52:25Laci Mosley?

  They were dying. I can't, he's a murderer too.

• 52:30Laci Mosley?

  My god. Well, he's an accidental murderer. He had known. He did wars, so maybe he did probably do some murders, but. He did some murder and he was like, I want to do some more and this is the elaborate scheme to do more murders. So around fifty people returned to London in eighteen twenty-three with a story for the press. Spelling the end of Gregor's reign as the prince of Poyet. Gregor hastily disappeared to France, but he didn't learn his lesson and Gregor repeated the scheme on the French. This time he managed to raise almost three hundred thousand pounds and even acquired a ship. But French authorities eventually learned news of the voyage and the plans were immediately halted. Gregor was briefly detained, tried for fraud and impossibly. Good.

• 53:15Laci Mosley?

  He was acquitted. Oh my. Eighteen twenty-six and one of his associates was found guilty instead, so he had pinned it all on somebody else. Is a menace. To society, truly. And in the coming decade, he carried on setting up schemes in London, although not such a grand scale. He would, until eventually in eighteen thirty-eight, he retired to Venezuela. To a rapturous hero welcome. Wow, okay, so I do remember when I did this on Behind the Bastards and Rob has like way more details than this. This is such a long story, actually, but this man was going from city to city. Getting the girl, like he was tricking the girls into all types of wars.

• 53:56Laci Mosley?

  He was marrying all the girls and using their money to go to parties and pretend that he was like a war hero. Oh my gosh, this reminds me of the tender swindler. No, no spoilers, but please. Okay, so Gregor McGregor passed away peacefully in Caracas at eighteen, in eighteen forty-five, not at eighteen forty-five. He lived to be a thousand. No. Time of death, eighteen forty-five. So he was fifty-eight years old when he passed away, which I mean, in the eighteen forty-five times. Yeah. Yeah, why did you say that, Brittany? I love, I love people in their fifties. My mom is in her fifties. I don't know why I said ew. I think it's because he did all the crimes. Yeah, no, he was a bad dude. He was a bad dude. He passed peacefully, like, for what?

• 54:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, he didn't pass unpeacefully, which would have been fun. He died screaming. No. Peacefully, which is, uh, not, not right. Uh, and then he was buried in military honors in Caracas. I do want to say, because I have a little, before we move on, uh, to the end of the show, I have a little bit more information about this scam than what's here, um, because I have talked about it. Find out behind the bastards episode. It's really funny. You'll get a lot of details about this guy. But, uh, one thing I do want to say about Boo Boo City, AKA Poyet's, is like, not only was like the land not fertile, but like the conditions that these people were living under there, like it was, they, there was no housing, there was no structures.

• 55:24Laci Mosley?

  They had to try to build their own houses. They were fighting with each other for resources. It was like, uh, like a horror film. Like stranded on an island and then a third of the people died. It was really, really bad. People were getting sick, like there was. How can you, that, like, how can you live with yourself? Like, what, like, well, I guess he didn't live with himself too long, much longer after that, but. I mean, he did, he died peacefully at fifty-nine, so he can't, remember, he did Poyet, he did Popozao, city, the city of Popozao, he did that at thirty. Popozao, oh my god. He did, he was thirty. So he lived for thirty more years after Popozao. Oh my gosh. If hell is real, he is there. And if you don't know what Popozao is, isn't that? Yeah, please Google it.

• 56:08Laci Mosley?

  Kevin Fed, K Fed, yep. Popozao. First of all, why, sir? It wasn't, he was trying to make fetch happen and it didn't happen. It did not happen. It did not happen. Oh, it was terrible. I can't even believe he fixed his mouth to say that. In his, in his Janko gene. Is that how you say it? The, the, um? I don't know. I don't know how to say Janko. I feel like Janko is right. Janko, a Nietzsche, like. He was, he was really a sight to behold. A whole scam. Kevin is just a whole walk-in robbery and has been since Shaw Jackson, when he had the baby with Shaw Jackson and then left her for Britney Spears. Yes.

• 56:50Laci Mosley?

  Shout out to Moisha. Shout out to Shaw Jackson and Popo Zal. But yeah, Popo Zal was a big scam and you know, I, McGregor. Another thing I'll say about McGregor before we move on is he knew how to dress. Like I told you, he would have on all of his medals from all the fake wars that he said that he was a general in. He would go to parties and talk ass shit and be at the salon. Everybody always loved his stories. Like definitely listen to the Behind the Bastards episode on, uh, him. Cause it's a, it's a fun one. But guys, it's time for Scammer of the Week. This is where we highlight a charlatan who's worthy of our praise, or maybe not. We'll see. Uh, this week, we're talking about one antique store that's gone viral for exposing the whole antique industry. A TikToker, of course, is TikTok. Right. It's always TikTok.

• 57:33Laci Mosley?

  The girls on TikTok, they love violence. They're like, every day. And me too. Messy TikTok, that's where I am right now. Yes, I am too. I love it. Love messy TikTok. Also love like rich, uh, stay-at-home mom TikTok. Find it very fascinating. Oh, and also that lady who cleans her house with all the gadgets who gives me anxiety. Love her TikTok. Yes. I thought that was like one big ad. We can talk about that at a later date. And I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't. Like, that's too much stuff to just have sitting around. Why do you have it? Also, it's not cute to have a bathroom that's just, and how much? And where do you buy it? Yeah, where do you get that? Cause it's not a good, if it isn't, like, it's not a good one. Cause like, I don't know where to purchase.

• 58:15Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. I do wanna know where to purchase, but also I would hate to go in my bathroom and then see all the cleanest supply doohickey magisms all around. Giving Wally, like, I can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's too much. Also, every time she cleans things, I get tired. So I, I watch those to go to sleep. I'm like, woo, girl, we cleaned it. We did it, both of us. And before you go, before you go on, Tarot TikTok, ultimate.

• 58:38Speaker 02

  Scam. I can't with them. I can't with Tarot TikTok.

• 58:41Laci Mosley?

  What they they doing like readings?

• 58:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Tarot. Are you not on Tarot TikTok?

• 58:46Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm not on Tarot.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  They they tell you that your person's coming back after they cheated on you.

• 58:53Laci Mosley?

  Wow, okay. Maybe they are coming back.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  I hope not. Right? Like, leave me alone at this point.

• 59:03Laci Mosley?

  Monogamy isn't everything to everybody. Maybe maybe.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  But also just like then don't be in a relationship. That's a whole other conversation, I think.

• 59:12Laci Mosley?

  Truly. So a TikToker named Angel Munoz was antiquing one weekend when he found a brass swan set of three with a price tag of two hundred twenty dollars. Thinking the swans had an interesting story to garner the larger price tag, he flipped one over. But on the bottom, found a Goodwill sticker still stuck stating eight ninety-nine. Wow. So they were gonna charge two hundred and twenty dollars for these gold swans.

• 59:40Speaker 02

  Are those from Pier One?

• 59:42Laci Mosley?

  They're they are giving old, except for they're not, because on the bottom, there's that line that looks like they were made in a factory.

• 59:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's giving like Pier One manufactured to look old.

• 59:53Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Yeah, it's given like we rubbed some tea on this or we burnt it with a lighter.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it was originally twelve ninety-nine.

• 1:00:02Laci Mosley?

  Right, and then we put it on sale. Yes. So the overpriced or vastly underpriced swans call into question whether the antique store made a simple mistake or took advantage of the general public often being unable to discern what's junk or a priceless heirloom. Even Goodwill is taking it to heart. Uh, wow. I mean, look. Antiquing old things, y'all know how I feel about people collecting old things from old times. Um. It it makes me concerned. Like, why do you want these Civil War spoons? What are you trying to remember? Slavery?

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  Are you trying to have a haunted house? Do you wanna like, I feel like everything's haunted. Like, that's like, if you know me. Really well, then you'll know that I'm always saying things are haunted. So I feel like if you go to an antique place, like you just are asking for a haunted house.

• 1:00:50Laci Mosley?

  See, but that would be very ghetto to me if I died and I was a ghost and then I just haunted spoons. Like I feel like that's like the worst station. Like what did I do in life? I want to haunt like a old boat or museum. I don't want to haunt spoons. Every time you'll be on kitchen counter, I'm like, ooh, you having a yogurt?

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that there's some, I mean, those particular swans do not look haunted. Are they swans or ducks?

• 1:01:23Laci Mosley?

  Uh, I think they were swans.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  They don't look like they have spirits in them, but they do look like they're from pure one or home goods.

• 1:01:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's definitely giving home goods. You know, um, it's, it's not quite giving CB two, but it is giving home goods.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  Home goods. Maybe urban home.

• 1:01:40Laci Mosley?

  Could be Marshall's.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe.

• 1:01:44Laci Mosley?

  In a good neighborhood.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, in the suburbs. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

• 1:01:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but guys, I mean, when it comes to that kind of stuff, the value that you put on something is the value that it has. So if you want to believe that these swans are worth thousands and thousands of dollars, just believe that in your heart. Cause

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think if you think it's expensive, then that's expensive to you and that's fine.

• 1:02:10Laci Mosley?

  Right. And you could lie to everybody. You know, you all you gotta do is peel off that eight ninety nine sticker and get to lying girl and then tell everybody that it's.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  You gotta keep up the lie.

• 1:02:21Laci Mosley?

  Right. Tell everybody it came from Harriet Tubman House.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  They won't question, they won't Google it. And if they do, they won't find it like.

• 1:02:29Speaker 02

  If they go so far as to Google it, then they can go to hell, right? Like, why are they Googling that?

• 1:02:34Laci Mosley?

  Hater.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  Right, exactly.

• 1:02:36Laci Mosley?

  Well, guys, that brings us to the end of another episode. Shout out to Paul for really derailing this one. Uh, that's my fault.

• 1:02:44Laci Mosley?

  We always ask on the show, Brittany, where would you like to be found?

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  Oh, um, Twitter, my Twitter account. It's just my first and last.

• 1:02:51Laci Mosley?

  Last name, um, and then just buckle up, I guess. Yes, buckle up. Oh, it's a fun ride. It's a good time over there on Brittany's Twitter. I love it there. Lots of nonsense. I, I absolutely love it there. Uh, as always, guys, cinch on your friends and family. [email protected]. Just make sure your scams are retired because we don't want to fuck up your bag. And if you want to see the photos of this very unsavory looking man, then scamgoddesspod on all platforms, scamgoddesspod Instagram will have the photos up every week like we always do. And if you want to follow me and my shenanigans, D I B A L A C I D, Lacy on all platforms. Congregation, stay Schemin. Scamgoddess. Scamgoddess stars and is hosted by me, Laci Mosley, AKA Scamgoddess.

• 1:03:35Laci Mosley?

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