The Necklace Caper That Sparked a Revolution w/ Vic Michaelis

Laci welcomes world-class improviser Vic Michaelis (Dropout: Very Important People) to explore history’s most glittering con job carried out by Jeanne de Valois-Saint-Rémy, the self-proclaimed "Comtesse de la Motte." She orchestrated the 1785 scandal at the court of Louis XVI that discredited the French monarchy and may have helped spark the French Revolution. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Vic Michaelis:@vicmmic Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.thecollector.com/what-was-the-diamond-necklace-affair/ https://www.britannica.com/event/Affair-of-the-Diamond-Necklace https://en.chateauversailles.fr/discover/history/key-dates/affair-diamond-necklace-1784-1785 https://www.history.com/articles/marie-antoinette-diamond-necklace-affair-french-revolution https://www.theparisianguide.com/the-affair-of-the-diamond-necklace/

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• 2:35Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who peractus it. Sometimes we love them. Sometimes we hate them. We will see along the way. And y'all already know I'm what? Yes, I am excited. I am thrilled. I'm elated. Today, we have an improviser and a comedian on the show that I've known for many years because we came up in the same beautiful coat together.

• 3:01Speaker 04

  That's it?

• 3:02Laci Mosley?

  I always call UCBA a coat. But it's a good place, guys. I love it. I love that place. If you know anything about me, you know I love that place. You may have seen them in college humor sketches. You may have also seen them on the dropout game show Make Some Noise, and later on, Game Changer. Or perhaps you've heard them on the podcast Comedy Bang Bang. Okay, but they're also the host of their own show, Very Important People, which has been nominated for awards. It's on Dropout TV. It's hilarious. They interview comedians playing improvised characters while wearing elaborate costumes. It is so good. If you have not watched it, which the internet puts it in your face, honey, because it's good. The algorithm gonna make you see it. Get into Very Important People.

• 3:46Laci Mosley?

  Congregation, please welcome a very important person, the wonderful Vic, oh my God, Michaelis?

• 3:52Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 3:53Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I thought I had it, but you know we can get insecure reading something?

• 3:56Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 3:57Laci Mosley?

  Congregation, please welcome the wonderful Vic Michaelis to the show.

• 4:01Speaker 04

  Thank you so much for having me.

• 4:03Laci Mosley?

  I cannot believe this is your first time on the show.

• 4:05Speaker 04

  I'm nothing if not a fan. I'm a little starstruck.

• 4:07Laci Mosley?

  You're a world-class improviser. So this is such a treat to have you. I'm so excited.

• 4:11Speaker 04

  It's also, I have such vivid memories of watching you at a show called Two Live Crew that I used to go watch all the time. Like, I just have been such a longtime fan.

• 4:22Laci Mosley?

  Thank you.

• 4:22Speaker 04

  As well as just sort of knowing you. And so now being here, a longtime listener.

• 4:26Laci Mosley?

  I'm a fan of your performing as well. You've always been amazing. Look at us, from Harold B to TV to everything.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  And here we are.

• 4:32Laci Mosley?

  I love it. And your nails are fire. Like, literally, but also like... I mean that in the compliment way as well.

• 4:37Speaker 04

  I have never had long nails in my life and for a show I was just on, I was in Hungary for six months. I had my nails long and we're going into a new season of VIP where I have just sort of like claws and I could not keep like the hot pink nail polish on. And so now they're painted kind of like a Hot Wheels car.

• 4:53Laci Mosley?

  I love it. So, so this was like you, you put some stuff on them yourself?

• 4:57Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 4:58Laci Mosley?

  I was like, you are very good at nails.

• 5:01Speaker 04

  Can you imagine if I was just like, yeah, I don't know. I was like tinkering around with it.

• 5:04Laci Mosley?

  Right. Listen, some people can do it. My nail artist can do it. And my nail artist has, like, I have to call her a nail artist because she is an artist.

• 5:10Speaker 04

  An artist.

• 5:11Laci Mosley?

  And she owns a nail salon. Her name is Hannah. And I didn't get my nails done for my birthday because luckily they still held up, but she would know if I cheated on her. And also I really don't want to go to anybody else. But her nails are like out to here. Like when I tell you they're like almost two inches, like, and she just does nails and everything with her nails like that. And I'm like, how?

• 5:30Speaker 04

  A gift.

• 5:30Laci Mosley?

  Like the Cardi B nails, like the real big, long ones. I'm like, how are y'all doing this? How do you wipe? But they're like, you gotta, you gotta just lift your hand up. You gotta take your palm and shove it up in the middle and then take the nails down like this, like so. I'll post a picture of my hand doing the wipes because this is how you gotta do it if you got the nails.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  It's 10,000 hours.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it is. You know what? But it's worth it for the beauty.

• 5:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's it. Hot Wheels nails. And yours are beautiful too.

• 5:55Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. You gotta look at them from afar. I haven't seen Hannah. But I'm gonna just be flashing my hands real quick so you can never really tell.

• 6:01Speaker 04

  I love that kind of loyalty though. She'll know that you're only going to her.

• 6:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And then next thing you know, I got a little cuticle cut and she talking about oops or something. I know it wasn't an accident. Okay? So we always ask on this podcast, what is your relationship with scams, Vic? Do you love them? Do you hate them?

• 6:18Speaker 04

  I.

• 6:19Laci Mosley?

  It could be anything. Have you run some?

• 6:20Speaker 04

  I love scams, genuinely. Like I truly do. And I think it comes from my fascination of sort of, you were talking about cults earlier. And I think like cults are sort of scam adjacent. And I am always half a step away from joining a cult, I feel like. Like I just, I want to believe really badly. Yeah.

• 6:37Laci Mosley?

  I feel like if I joined a cult, it would really get rid of a lot of my stress. You know what I mean? Because then like, all I'm focused on is work, you know, taking care of myself and going out with the cult and doing cult activities.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:51Laci Mosley?

  You know?

• 6:52Speaker 04

  It's like, well, it's to your point earlier, where is it? I think a cult is in the eye of the beholder, right? Because if you're kind of successful at the cult, it doesn't feel like a cult.

• 6:59Laci Mosley?

  It doesn't feel as much like a cult because you're like, I don't know, I made it.

• 7:02Speaker 04

  Well, that's it. It's like, well, I'm working. So it's that type of thing. And I feel, I feel that way about churches and stuff like that as well. I grew up in the church and it was like a very culty feeling type thing. But I just like, I got really good at it. And I was like in all of the, the groups that were like doing stuff within the community. And so I was like, oh no, this rocks. This is great.

• 7:22Laci Mosley?

  And I think churches are one of those things that they sit on the line because it's all about who's running the church. Because a church can be a wonderful source of community. For a lot of people, free therapy. And you get to have a place to go out and people know your name and like spirituality is good for the spirit and the soul. But then you also have the cult churches where it's like, why is my pastor driving a Rolls Royce?

• 7:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:45Laci Mosley?

  But asking me for money?

• 7:46Speaker 04

  Total. Well, it feels like a size thing too. Like I was a part of those big mega churches where it's just like, at what point is it a community? Like where does the community line versus the corporation start? You know what I mean? Do you want to hear kind of a fun scam?

• 7:59Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I do.

• 8:00Speaker 04

  Okay, so I, I'm worried I'm going to get sued.

• 8:04Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I worry about that every day.

• 8:06Speaker 04

  I think it'll be okay.

• 8:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 8:07Speaker 04

  Because it's true. It's just like facts that you can go find. It's not really slander because it's just like a thing. So it's like, the big scam that they were running at the mega church that I was a part of, name I will not say, was, it was like, the pastor and all of his kids were running sort of like the church and the youth group. And they were like franchising the church.

• 8:24Laci Mosley?

  Family affair?

• 8:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, so there was a bunch of them. He, so they were stealing a ton of money. They were all living in like four or five million dollar houses around town, naturally, of course.

• 8:33Laci Mosley?

  As you do.

• 8:34Speaker 04

  He put out, there was this big like Christianity Today article on it. He put out a hit. On his

• 8:40Laci Mosley?

  A hit?

• 8:41Speaker 04

  A hit on his son-in-law and one of the reporters from Christianity Today that was doing this big like report on him and his family trying to expose them saving money from the church.

• 8:49Laci Mosley?

  A hit is crazy. How you gonna be the man of God and you like, well, I'mma send you to meet him? Like, you gotta go meet God right now, cuz you getting in my way.

• 8:57Speaker 04

  He got ex- exited out and then he started a podcast. And that's what he does.

• 9:02Laci Mosley?

  And so he didn't even have to go to jail for the hit or nothing?

• 9:05Speaker 04

  No, cuz it's all kind of like, you know, I think with stuff like that, I don't know that money changed hands. It was just like conversations that were being had.

• 9:12Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so it's not, it wasn't quite attempted murder because they didn't like have a confirmation of services?

• 9:19Speaker 04

  And but it was enough that they were like, okay, you're outta here.

• 9:21Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 9:23Laci Mosley?

  A hit is wild.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:25Laci Mosley?

  It's like, I'm a man of God. I know him real well. And I need some people to meet him?

• 9:29Speaker 04

  Meet him.

• 9:30Laci Mosley?

  Do you think you could have that with that? Like, yeah, that's how the conversation goes. Legally, it's a gray area. I just said I wanted them to meet their maker, who is also a close personal friend of mine.

• 9:41Speaker 04

  Friend of mine.

• 9:41Laci Mosley?

  Jesus.

• 9:41Speaker 04

  A relationship.

• 9:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 9:43Speaker 04

  So there you go.

• 9:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I was just sending them home.

• 9:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:46Laci Mosley?

  To their house in the sky.

• 9:47Speaker 04

  Have a conversation with their father. Let their father deal with it. That's what my mom was talking about. She said, go talk to your father.

• 9:53Laci Mosley?

  Go talk to your father. And by that, I mean the one upstairs. Is that? I don't know.

• 9:56Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 9:57Laci Mosley?

  That's a hit, right? The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I was just throwing them a small party. Like, you know, they go up there, they kick it with them.

• 10:03Speaker 04

  That's really it?

• 10:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  You're welcome, actually.

• 10:06Laci Mosley?

  Right. I was doing a good thing.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:09Laci Mosley?

  Oh, man, but starting a podcast after that is just wild as hell.

• 10:14Speaker 04

  And also right on track.

• 10:15Laci Mosley?

  Perfect, actually. And what are the Christian girlies, are they into like God podcasts yet? The God Cast? Is that a thing?

• 10:23Speaker 04

  Can't be, right?

• 10:25Laci Mosley?

  Maybe. Now I wanna search God Cast cuz if that's not a thing, TM, that's mine, okay? I'mma get on here and

• 10:31Speaker 04

  I'm seeing ty- I'm seeing typing, frantic typing happening.

• 10:34Laci Mosley?

  Justin's gonna go and see if there's a God Cast.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Godcaster, that's different.

• 10:38Laci Mosley?

  That's Godcaster. Take that R off. Uh-uh, why is it like a podcast?

• 10:43Speaker 04

  Godcast, podcast. Hosts?

• 10:46Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  No, give it a second. Yeah, Godcast. Well, how many followers are they still making episodes?

• 10:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. Oh, they got 374 reviews.

• 10:54Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 10:55Laci Mosley?

  And they got 4.4 stars. Now, how you gonna give a podcast about God a one star review?

• 11:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's really tough.

• 11:03Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna give God one star? You ain't right. See, it's a hater for everybody. Like, come on now.

• 11:08Speaker 04

  Well, it's Bible style, you know? It's somebody's written it, so you don't know, like, is it? Was it through the Holy Spirit? Was it a translation issue? You know, that type of thing? And maybe the same for the spoken word.

• 11:17Laci Mosley?

  They got a couple of bad reviews. Damn.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's tough.

• 11:21Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's just somebody like, I'm an atheist, so I just came over here to say I didn't like Godcast. Now, so your scam here was...

• 11:30Speaker 04

  Some wasn't my scam so much just as like a scam that was happening. My scams largely would have been like, I was really bad in school. I was like very dyslexic and I had a really hard time writing stuff. And so I went to, for a little while, like a very conservative Christian school from like 8th grade to 10th grade.

• 11:49Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wow.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  And so you could kind of get away with stuff if you knew like the right language to be saying. And so I used to like, if I had an essay that I couldn't write, I would just type out nonsense, like absolute gibberish, save it in a file type that was like, like an FTX file or whatever. And then I'd send it in and basically say that like, oh, they couldn't open it. Or like it had scrambled the words because I like...

• 12:15Laci Mosley?

  That is beautiful. You said this is a technological issue. I got a little scared that you were gonna say, and then I would put it into ChatGPT. And I was like, no!

• 12:24Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 12:25Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, we hate AI.

• 12:26Speaker 04

  We hate AI. We hate it. Those large, what do they call large word models? It literally is a scam. My brother works in robotics and was telling me how ChatGPT works because it is not doing anything. It's the large language models are literally like, oh, well, you're talking about this, so we're predicting it. That this is what it is. It's literally a scam.

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And it costs, I think it's like a lot of energy. It takes up a lot of energy when people are using it.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  Chugging water.

• 12:51Speaker 00

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• 15:47Laci Mosley?

  I've got some printed word in front of me. Historic hoodwink.

• 15:51Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 15:52Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So we are going to regale Vic with a famous con caper group of criminals. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. We'll give Vic's opinions all throughout. And let's see. So I love this for us because it kind of feels characterish. It kind of feels like it's like a VIP adjacent.

• 16:12Speaker 04

  I love this.

• 16:13Laci Mosley?

  Story because we're going back to 1785.

• 16:16Speaker 04

  Here we go.

• 16:17Laci Mosley?

  In France, there was a Marie Antoinette impersonator.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 16:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And yeah, okay, this is like just a Halloween costume of Marie Antoinette. I think we're looking at just, but you know what? It's giving, it's giving us the, it's putting us in a headspace of the historical period. Okay, we're in our 1785 bag now, okay? A cellphone, what is this magic? Witchcraft.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, literally drown.

• 16:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this was back in the day where if women knew things, they'd be like, her. Did she read?

• 16:47Speaker 04

  You're out of here.

• 16:47Laci Mosley?

  All right, let's stone her to death. She's a witch.

• 16:49Speaker 04

  She's a landowner, so she's out of here. Wasn't that a whole thing with that?

• 16:53Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 16:53Speaker 04

  They kept calling people that had any kind of, because it was so hard to own land. And so they were like, they're a witch. And now actually that land gets to go to the family of the accused.

• 17:00Laci Mosley?

  And if they're not a witch, then when we throw them in the river, then they won't. Okay, if they're a witch, they'll float. And if they're not a witch, they'll sink. Which made no sense.

• 17:10Speaker 04

  Win win, depending on who you're talking to, I guess.

• 17:12Laci Mosley?

  Right, that would have been a win win for the pastor. He was like, I was just trying to make sure they weren't witches. Like if they drowned, then they weren't a witch.

• 17:19Speaker 04

  Community service.

• 17:20Laci Mosley?

  Now we know, if they float, they are a witch and we gotta stone them.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:24Laci Mosley?

  Makes sense to me. So there's a Marie Antoinette impersonator that caused a scandal at the court of Louis XVI that discredited the French monarchy and may have led to the start of the French Revolution. So an impersonator might actually have all of this on their hands.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Be the one that started the French Revolution?

• 17:42Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 17:44Laci Mosley?

  Which is kind of like metal to me. I love it. And it makes me remember like the last Olympic ceremony when they were in France and they had that really cool like performance where they had Marie Antoinette's head.

• 17:57Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, on the building?

• 17:59Laci Mosley?

  On the building.

• 17:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 18:01Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and they also made people swim in the dirty ass scene like.

• 18:04Speaker 04

  Is that how that's pronounced?

• 18:07Laci Mosley?

  Like how y'all got us racing in boo boo water? Um, I believe so.

• 18:09Speaker 04

  I've been calling it sine. Oh no.

• 18:11Laci Mosley?

  How y'all gonna make me do the Olympics and poop water? This is ridiculous. This is supposed to be a world-class event.

• 18:18Speaker 04

  Really hard.

• 18:19Laci Mosley?

  But so, the necklace is where we're starting. The necklace? And we're gonna see the necklace. Look at this. This is Marie Antoinette's necklace. It's gorgeous. It's so gaudy. And if you think about 1785, I can't even imagine how much work it took to make this.

• 18:35Speaker 04

  Oh yeah. The mixed material too. Look at that with the ribbons on the side.

• 18:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 18:39Speaker 04

  That really is sensational.

• 18:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the ribbons are really kind of giving me a little something. If you especially think about the time period and the flowy kind of ruffly clothing, like, I don't know, I'm into it.

• 18:49Speaker 04

  You're gonna post this and Claire's is gonna be all over it.

• 18:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh yeah.

• 18:52Speaker 04

  There's gonna be nine dupes of this.

• 18:54Laci Mosley?

  For sure. But, but also kind of the ribbon is getting on my nerves a little bit though, because it's such an intricate, like, beautiful diamond piece. I really hope that you don't have to tie it around your neck with a ribbon, because that's crazy.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, that also feels like heavy. Like it would, the ribbon would pill.

• 19:07Laci Mosley?

  It would really, it would really into the ribbon. So the necklace was property of the Parisian firm of jewelers, Beumer and Bassinge, Chamille and Bassange.

• 19:18Speaker 04

  Gorgeous.

• 19:19Laci Mosley?

  They had personally financed making it on like a spec, which took years as they meticulously gathered 674 diamonds of exceptional purity totaling 284 carats. The result was a masterpiece, a cascading work of diamonds and pearls in an elaborate like esclavage style? Esclavage?

• 19:41Speaker 04

  Sounds right to me.

• 19:42Laci Mosley?

  Esclavage? This is where y'all find out that I can't read. Um, I've been lying to you guys the whole time.

• 19:48Speaker 04

  I'm so worried that I can't read. We've been seeing all those news articles where they're like 70% of people are not reading at a proper reading level. And I'm like, oh, my God, I think that's me.

• 19:57Laci Mosley?

  Or if I read something or I read a book and I'm reading and I think I'm reading too slow, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I should be reading faster. Yeah.

• 20:04Speaker 04

  All the time.

• 20:05Laci Mosley?

  Like, but I did finish a book in a day not too long ago, so maybe I can't read.

• 20:09Speaker 04

  I think you're A plus, great.

• 20:11Laci Mosley?

  I think I'm literate. Y'all find out that it's just like just saying the words and then I repeat them back like, like how Johnny Depp used to do his lines with the earpiece.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  Is that true?

• 20:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, in the Pirates of the Caribbean, like some of those, he was like, he had an earwig in and they would give him the lines.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  That's tough because that's not period accurate.

• 20:27Laci Mosley?

  Nah.

• 20:28Speaker 04

  To the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

• 20:30Laci Mosley?

  He could really do anything. We wasn't going to know. We wasn't pirates. But so it's like elaborate in an esclavage style. We're gonna say that's right. Featuring 17 large diamonds at its center, surrounded by intricate garlands and pendants. They had been trying for several years to sell it, but they couldn't find a buyer. Yeah, because it's expensive as hell. Like, who needs this?

• 20:49Speaker 04

  It's like, do you see those house shows where they're like, this $35 million house has been on the market for a year and we can't find a single buyer?

• 20:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because nobody needs $35 million worth of house.

• 21:00Speaker 04

  And also who? There's four people. You know what I mean?

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  Your market is very small. It's like.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  And if they've got a place already in LA, like, that's just tough.

• 21:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's gonna stay on the market. You're gonna have to lower the price or cut it up into some apartment shit. We need housing. But also, like, it's such an expensive piece, but it's also gaudy. And I'm just thinking, like, you have to be someone who's so deeply insulated by security that you would never see anybody who could just snatch it from you.

• 21:27Speaker 04

  And I'm gonna say it, confident. You gotta be confident to wear that.

• 21:31Laci Mosley?

  You really do. And you gotta have a strong neck.

• 21:33Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. You gotta be jacked.

• 21:35Laci Mosley?

  Like, yeah, you need like a John Cena type neck.

• 21:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:40Laci Mosley?

  Like, you need, like, The Rock would look great in this. Like, his neck is so strong. He would be, yeah, he could rock it.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  I actually think with necklaces coming back specifically for, like, strong men, I think The Rock, absolutely. I think we will be seeing this on him at some sort of a premiere.

• 21:56Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. I want to see him in his black turtleneck and his jeans and that necklace on.

• 22:00Speaker 04

  Wait, I love that. A turtleneck with the necklace on top of it?

• 22:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Because it's just a casual, you know, just throw it on.

• 22:07Speaker 04

  I think that's it. It up scales it a little bit.

• 22:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, just a high-low, high-low, you know, 284 karat diamond necklace and also a Uniqlo turtleneck.

• 22:16Speaker 04

  I was shocked, but you talked me into it.

• 22:18Laci Mosley?

  Like, I mean, it could give, it could give.

• 22:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I agree.

• 22:22Laci Mosley?

  So, so first they tried to get Louis the Fifteenth to buy it as a present for his mistress, Madame du Ballet.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  Genius.

• 22:30Laci Mosley?

  But he died before they finished it.

• 22:34Laci Mosley?

  So, yeah, that's probably something that, so this is her, her neck looks like it's strong. Like, it looks like she could really hold that necklace.

• 22:40Speaker 04

  It does, but unfortunately with a, with something that specific to give it to the mistress and then be like, huh, where'd you get that?

• 22:46Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 22:47Speaker 04

  Oh, can you imagine Love Actually? The, the wife sees that in the little ring box and then sees it on her during Christmas?

• 22:53Laci Mosley?

  Right, she's like, what the fuck?

• 22:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's tough.

• 22:56Laci Mosley?

  She also has a, like, a lot of chest. Like, I don't know if I have enough chest area, and I don't even mean breast, I mean just like the, the, like the chest plate, the, what's the word for this? Like, I watched the pit.

• 23:08Speaker 04

  Bone, sternum.

• 23:10Laci Mosley?

  Sternum.

• 23:11Speaker 04

  Lot of sternum.

• 23:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, a lot of sternum, she got a lot of sternum going on, so she could really...

• 23:14Speaker 04

  Both really putting our pit knowledge to, to work here. You're right, do you think that's an artist rendering issue, or do you think that that's being generous, sort of with what the artist is given here?

• 23:24Laci Mosley?

  I mean, they had to sit for these portraits forever, and the artist, like, if I sat for like that many hours and they didn't give me some airbrush and some, some sepia and some, you know, um, and made me look like a baddie, I would be pissed off.

• 23:38Speaker 04

  Heads are rolling.

• 23:39Laci Mosley?

  So I'm sure the artist did do a little je ne sais quoi.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's tough, then.

• 23:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but I mean, her dress is giving. Unless she probably smelled bad, because nobody was bathing back then, and I think about that every time I see a period piece and they start making out, and I'm like, I know y'all breath is hot as hell, like, why y'all just making out all willy nilly?

• 23:58Speaker 04

  Four teeth, yeah, it's hard.

• 24:00Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, and I know y'all ain't taking no baths.

• 24:04Laci Mosley?

  So, in seventeen eighty-two, they offered it to Louis the Sixteenth for Marie Antoinette.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 24:11Laci Mosley?

  Marie said no, even when they reduced the price to a steal at one point six million livres, or like around seventeen point five million USD in twenty twenty-four, or in twenty twenty-five. She said the funds would be better spent on building a warship, since France had just allied itself with the American insurgents in the Revolutionary War. Also, she didn't like the style, which was in the style of the previous monarchy, and looked like a horse's harness.

• 24:46Speaker 04

  How crazy to be like, this money could really be put to better use. And also, it's so ugly.

• 24:50Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Also, this money could really be put to better use, like a warship.

• 24:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:56Laci Mosley?

  That's good.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  Feeding people past warship?

• 25:00Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no. They gotta eat cake.

• 25:01Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 25:02Laci Mosley?

  Warship, though. Now we're talking. And then they're aligning with us, our whack asses. Like, literally, we should have paid the taxes. Like, Great Britain paid for us to come over here. And then, I say us, I was a stolen, I was a slave. But, um, my ancestors. But, um, you know, let's pretend that I was, um, one of the thieves who came over here on a boat willingly. And...

• 25:24Speaker 04

  A William, a William McDonald.

• 25:26Laci Mosley?

  I was a William McDougall Donald, whatever.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 25:29Laci Mosley?

  And like, they were supposed to pay their taxes and they were like, you know what? We are so far away from y'all. We want freedom.

• 25:37Laci Mosley?

  But I get it. If I was that far away, which I guess we are still.

• 25:39Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 25:40Laci Mosley?

  An ocean between us, and you want me to send you money?

• 25:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:44Laci Mosley?

  Come, swim over here and get it.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, which they did.

• 25:46Laci Mosley?

  They did.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  Which is sort of, sort of what happened.

• 25:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that was the war, huh? That was the war.

• 25:57Laci Mosley?

  Now that I think about it, they did swim over.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, okay, well, well. They not teaching y'all history in school no more, so this might be the best you got. So, share this with your baby, okay? We just explained the American Revolution.

• 26:11Speaker 04

  Revolution.

• 26:12Laci Mosley?

  Okay, now your baby knows.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  Right here, play this clip.

• 26:14Laci Mosley?

  Especially if you're in Florida, because I know they ain't teaching them babies nothing. So, you know, just put this on. So, the jewelers attempted to sell the necklace abroad, offering it to Spain, England, the two Sicilies, Tuscany, and Russia, but found no buyers. In desperation, Ballmer even threatened suicide before the Queen, begging her to reconsider, but she said no again.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 26:38Laci Mosley?

  He said, "Buy this necklace, I'm gonna kill myself." That's, that's wild.

• 26:42Speaker 04

  That honestly is kind of brilliant. Just to be like, how much is this necklace worth? A life?

• 26:47Laci Mosley?

  A life, mine?

• 26:48Speaker 04

  Decide right now.

• 26:50Laci Mosley?

  Decide right now. My life.

• 26:53Speaker 04

  Or kill me. You have to do it. Cause you're doing it either way.

• 26:58Laci Mosley?

  Buy the necklace or you're right. You're killing me.

• 27:01Speaker 04

  Or I'm giving you a gun and you have to shoot me right now.

• 27:03Laci Mosley?

  Nah, gun's too easy. You gotta throw little rocks at me until I die.

• 27:07Speaker 04

  No, slow.

• 27:08Laci Mosley?

  Not stoned. I wanna be pebbled. Pebbled to death.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  Put me in a box and glass by glass, you have to pour water in there until I drown.

• 27:20Speaker 04

  Tough, that's hard.

• 27:21Laci Mosley?

  Yo, that's a, that's a crazy marketing strategy.

• 27:24Speaker 04

  I kinda love it.

• 27:27Laci Mosley?

  I wanna see, what's the modern version of this? Burger King's like, have it your way or we'll have.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  You know what it is?

• 27:35Laci Mosley?

  Leave the planet.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  My cousin was a part of MLMs and I do legitimately think what it is is like, she would sell stuff on live, like on Facebook and she would be like, we can't get started until I have four more people in, in my chat or whatever. And that feels like the equivalent of that. Is her just like desperately begging people to join her live.

• 27:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  And she can see people's names that are popping up and is calling them out as they're leaving the chat.

• 27:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she's like, hi John. Oh, Steve, you leaving Steve? Why you leaving?

• 27:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:59Laci Mosley?

  You must not love me. You must not want me to live.

• 28:02Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 28:04Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. It's, it's a strategy. So the swindler. Jeanne de Varois-San Remé.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  Oh, gorgeous.

• 28:11Laci Mosley?

  AKA the Countess of Del Amour was the daughter of Henry the second of France through an illegitimate son. She had grown up poor and often begged for food, but took her illegitimate claim to nobility seriously. Contemporary accounts describe her as being thin with small breasts, brown hair and blue eyes. Now, why do we need to know about her titties?

• 28:36Speaker 04

  That's gotta be so tough if like.

• 28:38Laci Mosley?

  Historically, we gotta put this in the albanic. Uh, it was an A cup? Alrighty.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  If your personal is, personality is that bad that they're like scavenging for things to talk about you with? And so that's sort of what they came up with is just like, uh, breast small. That's just like, just searching for adjectives.

• 28:54Laci Mosley?

  Well, her, her breasts moved bubbly as she walks through the castle. Like, well, she had no personality. Cause the thing about Marie Antoinette is like, obviously like, we weren't even. Our lineages weren't even thought of when she was alive, but we still know some things about her. Some things people made up, things that people said she did. We got movies about her where we just guessing. But obviously she had a personality. Clearly Marie Antoinette was a bad bitch you could never kill. You know what I mean? Yeah. I loved the Marie Antoinette movie with Kristen Duns because they did some fun anachronisms where the word anachronism means like something that's out of a time period, but it's on purpose. So when they were scrolling through like all of her French fancy shoes, there was a pair of pink Converse.

• 29:36Speaker 04

  No.

• 29:37Laci Mosley?

  Like they just did little weird stuff like that. I thought that was kinda cool. And I also just love Kristen Duns. I've loved her since The Virgin Suicide.

• 29:43Speaker 04

  Oh, me too. That was my favorite movie.

• 29:46Laci Mosley?

  I loved it. Should that have been our favorite movie?

• 29:48Speaker 04

  No, I think that that probably did bad things to our developing brains, but...

• 29:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. We were like, put that on again. It was like, no, you shouldn't be...

• 29:56Speaker 04

  If somebody doesn't like you, kill yourself in front of them unless they wanna go on a date with you.

• 29:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Or they don't wanna buy your necklace.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think some of this is starting to, uh, starting to come together for me.

• 30:06Laci Mosley?

  So all we know about her is, um, her breasts, her hair, and her eyes.

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• 33:11Laci Mosley?

  So she married an officer of the French military and one month later gave birth to twins, both of whom only lived a few days. It was tragic, but they moved on pretty quickly, assuming.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  That's so sad.

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  It was tragic, but they moved on pretty quickly.

• 33:34Speaker 04

  Don't worry, they moved on so fast.

• 33:35Laci Mosley?

  So fast, okay? I mean, but this was back in the day where, like, this is the whole reason we have birthdays. We celebrate our birth, because the children would just be dying all willy-nilly. You had to pop one out and see if they was gonna make it. And if they made it a year, you'd be like, "Your birthday, yay, you're not dead."

• 33:49Speaker 04

  I never put that together, but of course.

• 33:51Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 33:52Speaker 04

  Wild.

• 33:53Laci Mosley?

  And so back then, the kids was dying like hotcakes, so I guess you can't get too attached. Oh, gosh, we'll put a trigger warning in here because I don't want to trigger anybody. Um, but we're talking about olden times. We have modern medicine now.

• 34:05Speaker 04

  Seventeen hundreds?

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  It's still dangerous. Mortality rate for black women, very high.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, very high.

• 34:10Laci Mosley?

  So, um, they moved on pretty quickly. Assuming the made-up titles of Count and Countess de la Montreux. I'm not saying all that, but you know, they were the Count and Countess of De la Montreux.

• 34:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Y'all know where it's at, right? Y'all been to De la Montreux? Yeah, I love it. All of my homies love De la Montreux.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  Yeah. Every weekend.

• 34:34Laci Mosley?

  Every weekend, we in De la Montreux.

• 34:35Speaker 04

  Going to De la Montreux.

• 34:36Laci Mosley?

  So pretending to have a claim to higher, this is what they did. They pretended they were the Count and the Countess of De la Montreux. Um, voulez-vous coucher avec moi? So they're the Count, the Countess.

• 34:46Speaker 04

  Se sois?

• 34:47Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 34:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, okay.

• 34:49Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So, um, and they pretended to have this, like, claim to higher status. They had some money and court privileges, but the Count wasn't able to provide the extravagant lifestyle that the Countess wanted. So she started taking lovers. First, a common gigolo who worked. Who worked in the military. So it was a gigolo who worked in the military with her husband. And later, she became one of many women sleeping with the Cardinal de Rong, a famous horn dog at the French court. So, I'm trying to read this back so I can understand. So she got with the gigolo.

• 35:29Speaker 04

  Right.

• 35:29Laci Mosley?

  Who worked in the military with her husband.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 35:32Laci Mosley?

  So this is her husband, homeboy, and she started getting with him.

• 35:35Speaker 04

  It's so tough that he is working in the military, but also has to have a second job.

• 35:39Laci Mosley?

  And then she began, she, then she becomes like the side hoe to the Cardinal de Rohn. Rohn, Rohn, Cardinal de Rohn.

• 35:46Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 35:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, um, so he's very popular in court. Now, what I think is interesting about this is like, you don't have to necessarily have like a bloodline to be at court. It's kind of like, there's a bloodline and then there's just people who are like, popular.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. You either have to be really hot or come from a family, which is kind of still like now, or rich, yeah.

• 36:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it is kind of still like now, huh? That's exactly like now.

• 36:11Speaker 04

  It's kind of like, exactly like now, like if Instagram was court.

• 36:15Laci Mosley?

  Wow, we got our nepo babies.

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:18Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 36:19Speaker 04

  Isn't that always so crazy, especially being in film and television where it's like, there are people that are genuinely so talented, but it is so nuts. Just like seeing people just pop up and you're like, who is that person? And it's like, oh.

• 36:28Laci Mosley?

  And they came out of nowhere.

• 36:30Speaker 04

  Out of nowhere.

• 36:30Laci Mosley?

  But it's like, that's how you get funding for your project. You'd be like, oh, that, we're also gonna write, we're gonna put this person in there and you know, they're Tom Hanks' son.

• 36:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:39Laci Mosley?

  And you know what, Chet? I already talked about that show, I love it. So, the scandal. The Cardinal de Rohn, Bishop of Strasbourg, why I gotta say his whole name? Like, this is like Game of Thrones, I'm like, first of his name. Lord of the Andals. So he was looking to do some reputation rehab for himself when he met the Countess. Because remember, he was the, the court hoe. Like, he was out here really just giving, you know, giving it to everybody. And he does not look good. This was y'all's hoe?

• 37:09Speaker 04

  No, that's really tough.

• 37:11Laci Mosley?

  This is the man.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  Bald up top.

• 37:14Laci Mosley?

  Right. Maybe he got some undercarriage things going on that were popular.

• 37:19Speaker 04

  Long on the sides.

• 37:21Laci Mosley?

  Bald up top and then he got like a flip up bob.

• 37:24Speaker 04

  Like Farrah Fawcett.

• 37:25Laci Mosley?

  Like, what?

• 37:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:26Laci Mosley?

  And this, this was y'all's king. This was y'all's man. Y'all was like, uh, vous le vou. Got really, y'all really, okay.

• 37:33Speaker 04

  That's really hard to see.

• 37:35Laci Mosley?

  Not me. No, no, no.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Maybe he was like, really kind.

• 37:41Laci Mosley?

  He had a great personality.

• 37:42Speaker 04

  A generous lover.

• 37:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, oh clearly, he was doing all the French stuff.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 37:48Speaker 04

  There had to be something going on there.

• 37:49Laci Mosley?

  He probably invented the kiss.

• 37:50Speaker 04

  Oh, whoa, the French one?

• 37:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 37:53Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 37:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 37:54Speaker 04

  Because that really is it, is there's gotta be something else going on there. Maybe it is just the confidence, you know, when he goes up and he's like, "I like you and I want to have sex with you."

• 38:00Laci Mosley?

  And you're like, "Well, I guess I should." We, we, we, okay?

• 38:05Speaker 04

  We, we, we.

• 38:06Laci Mosley?

  So, this is the Cardinal Horn Dog. Um, he's trying to rehabilitate his reputation. So, as French ambassador to Vienna from seventeen seventy-two to seventeen seventy-four, he had slept around a lot, which pissed off Marie Antoinette's mother, the Austrian Empress Maria Theresa.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  Why is she mad?

• 38:24Laci Mosley?

  So,

• 38:27Laci Mosley?

  Marie herself didn't like, uh, the Horn Dog either, and she cut him out of her inner circle. Rohan wanted to get back in. So, this is the Cardinal, I'm just gonna call him the Cardinal. Cardinal wanted to get back in, but like, everybody was like, "You're a hoe and we hate you." Um, this is Empress Maria Theresa. Now, why was she mad? Did she hook up with the, with, um, Cardinal? And then she didn't want him spreading his, uh, love?

• 38:51Speaker 04

  She looks stunned.

• 38:53Laci Mosley?

  She really does. You know what, they did have to sit for a long time, and so it does, it's giving, I'm holding in a fart, or like, I really do need to get to the bathroom, but get them last brushstrokes in, and then I'm gonna go to, to the royal loo.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  Chambers, yeah, absolutely.

• 39:08Laci Mosley?

  Oh, thinking about how rich people, like, you had to be the person to bring over the little pot for them to poop in and then take the poop pot away.

• 39:16Speaker 04

  That-

• 39:17Laci Mosley?

  That was a job.

• 39:17Speaker 04

  And a coveted job, right?

• 39:20Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 39:21Speaker 04

  To like, be, because otherwise, I guess you're just like, like a serf.

• 39:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. At least, I guess you get to live in the castle. I mean, you do have to see poop every day.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  That's true, but there's, I guess, like, fire and food in the castle.

• 39:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, there is fire and food.

• 39:34Speaker 04

  That's really hard to hear, that that was a job that people were like, applying for.

• 39:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness.

• 39:39Speaker 04

  Again, kinda like today, I guess.

• 39:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like today, like today. So, the Countess de Lamont, this is the one with the little boobs. But that's how we know her now, so I'm bringing her back in. Remember- The count, like, this is the wife of-

• 39:54Speaker 04

  Huge eyes, tiny, tiny boobs.

• 39:58Laci Mosley?

  Big eyes, tiny boobs. She's back in this, y'all. Are y'all staying with me? Do we all know where the characters are at now? Because I'm starting to get confused myself. So we have the countess, who named herself the countess, and remember, she married the French officer, but then she started hooking up with other people because she was like, I need more in my life. And then she started hooking up with the court hoe, the court hoe Cardinal de Rohan. And then Marie Antoinette, Mama don't like the court hoe, and neither does Marie, but the court hoe was like, I want to get back in with the popular kids. Like, I won't have sex with y'all no more, I promise.

• 40:33Speaker 04

  Image rehab, hard image rehab.

• 40:35Laci Mosley?

  So the Countess de Le Mans suggested to the Cardinal that Marie Antoinette actually did want the super expensive necklace. She just wanted to get it in secret rather than publicly accepting it.

• 40:46Speaker 04

  No.

• 40:47Laci Mosley?

  So Marie was like, oh no, get that ugly thing out of here. We need to spend money on warships and the pores. And then she was like, hey, come back, come back around here. Okay, I don't want the necklace, but I just can't tell nobody.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  Is it her that's saying that?

• 41:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's a rumor started by the Countess's little boobs.

• 41:09Speaker 04

  So she, like, has stolen the credit card and is kind of like, hey, look what Marie gave me. She, look, look, she wants it, actually.

• 41:15Laci Mosley?

  She does want it. So she starts the whisper campaign that Marie-

• 41:18Speaker 04

  So she's doing sort of reverse Farrah Fawcett's bidding.

• 41:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  Whoa, okay.

• 41:25Laci Mosley?

  So this is obviously going to be like something that everybody wants to run with because everybody knows how expensive this necklace is.

• 41:30Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 41:31Laci Mosley?

  The Countess said Marie would be prepared for a formal reconciliation at court if Rohan would do the dirty work of negotiating with the jewelers. So she's making all this up. And she's like, if the Cardinal, Cardinal hoe, does the little backdoor deal for the necklace, then he can get back in good with the court that he slept with.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  Right.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  This is convoluted, but okay, Countess, I'm with you. So.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  She's got time on her hands.

• 41:59Laci Mosley?

  So Countess Littleboobs gave, I'm sorry, so we have, I guess, something to go with now. Gave the Cardinal forged letters supposedly from the Queen and set up a meeting between the two at night at the Garden of Versailles. The Cardinal was actually talking to a prostitute named Nicole Leguet de Olivia, who had very slight passing resemblance to Marie Antoinette, but he bought it. So she was like, so Countess, Countess Littleboobs was like, meet up with this Marie at night. And you know, this is back at night when they don't have like a streetlights or anything like that. They might have a little candle with them, but like.

• 42:41Speaker 04

  Flickering in the wind.

• 42:41Laci Mosley?

  Flickering in the wind. If it's windy, oh, y'all in the dark. So they meet and she had hired a sex worker named Nicole Leguet de Away, who kinda looked like Marie Antoinette and had her meet this man in the dark.

• 42:54Speaker 04

  Oh, my God. That's crazy.

• 42:58Laci Mosley?

  So Cardinal Hell bought it disguised in a muslin gown and veil. Cause you know how it'd be nice if you gotta wear a veil?

• 43:04Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 43:05Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. She had a little bit of Marie Antoinette's vibe and she handed him a rose and whispered, "You know what this means? You can count on the past being forgotten." That was a horrible French accent, but I need y'all to understand what I'm saying too. The past being forgotten.

• 43:23Speaker 04

  And you've really painted a picture of how like ghost stories get started. You know what I mean?

• 43:27Laci Mosley?

  Right. Flickering lights, wearing the muslin, wearing the veil, as one does. So before he could continue the conversation, the Countess's accomplices staged an interruption, cutting the meeting short. They said, oh, she gotta go, she gotta go. She can't say no more, no more, no, no, no, no, no, no. So the Cardinal signed a contract with the jeweler to pledge his credit to pay for the necklace in four installments over two years. He got the necklace, gave it to the Countess, and she took off.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  Oh, good for her.

• 43:58Laci Mosley?

  Yes, she said, y'all can keep talking about my little boobs. Now I got a big old necklace on them.

• 44:02Speaker 04

  Necklace to distract. Well, she's got so much, so much sternum.

• 44:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she does have so much sternum.

• 44:06Speaker 04

  She is the one that can fit that necklace, actually, pretty perfectly.

• 44:09Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So when the cardinal failed to raise the first installment in full, the jewellers asked Marie Antoinette directly for payment. She said she never heard of this whole deal and wasn't a part of it. She was like, I don't know what y'all talking about. Necklace? I said, no, remember warships? Remember? So meanwhile, Count de Lamont, who this is Countess Gossip Queen.

• 44:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:31Laci Mosley?

  With the little boobs, we're gonna call her Gossip Queen now. We won't call her little boobs anymore. All boobs matter.

• 44:37Speaker 04

  Upgrade.

• 44:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but so now she's just gonna be Countess Gossip, okay? So Countess Gossip's husband, Count de Lamont, had taken the necklace to London and sold it off in pieces. The diamonds ended up on the black markets of Paris, London, and Amsterdam.

• 44:53Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 44:53Laci Mosley?

  So he broke it apart like they were in Mean Girls, and he was like, a little piece for you.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  For you.

• 44:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you look so good in that dress, Gretchen.

• 45:02Speaker 04

  It's all just diamonds. And he's like tossing it out.

• 45:05Laci Mosley?

  He's tossing it out.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  That's crazy that that was an option the entire time, when nobody wanted to buy this necklace and this guy was getting desperate. Instead of going like, oh, I'll just like cut it up and sell it for parts.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  No, he was like, I'll kill myself. Like, that was the natural next step?

• 45:18Speaker 04

  That is wild.

• 45:20Laci Mosley?

  Break it up in pieces and sell it. That's really wild.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  He's an artist.

• 45:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he's an artist. That's true art.

• 45:27Speaker 04

  That's true art.

• 45:27Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, it's giving really emotional emo artists.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  And it's part of the performance now, too. So you're buying sort of the story. I love that.

• 45:33Laci Mosley?

  The consequences. Louis XVI, or Louis XVI, had the cardinal arrested and imprisoned in the Bastille. Now, remember, the cardinal was the one who was trying to rehabilitate his reputation. He thought that, you know, this was gonna be the way to do it. He got scammed, and he couldn't pay back the necklace. So he doesn't have the necklace, and he also didn't get to go back to court. And now he's in jail.

• 45:59Speaker 04

  Tough, but he got to have sex with so many people along the way.

• 46:02Laci Mosley?

  He did, you know what? And that's where, you know, you gotta just take your L's. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you're in the bestie.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  Have sex with everybody, yeah.

• 46:09Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes you have sex with everybody in court, other times, you know.

• 46:11Speaker 04

  And then you get locked up.

• 46:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, then you're in that, um, that one movie.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  You win some, you have sex with everybody some, so.

• 46:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what was it, La Miserable? Yeah, then sometimes you're in La Miserable.

• 46:21Speaker 04

  This is the exact plot of La Miserable.

• 46:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and I just say La Miserable, y'all gonna kill me. I am a theater kid. It's La Miserable. And what is she in, La Miserabilis? Miserabilis? Less miserable-ness?

• 46:34Speaker 04

  Did you like the movie?

• 46:35Laci Mosley?

  I, I did.

• 46:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I mean, I love me some Anne Hathaway.

• 46:39Speaker 04

  Me too.

• 46:39Laci Mosley?

  I don't know why there was a hate campaign. There was never a hate campaign against her in the black community, so we didn't really know. That was like white people's business. But I remember people being like, oh, my gosh, Anne Hathaway is finally back after people had, you know, so much disdain for her. And black people were like, our princess from Princess Diaries? We, we always loved her.

• 46:56Speaker 04

  No, that was exclusively, I feel like, white theater kids that were so mad about it in a way that makes no sense. People were jealous that she could be a movie star and be such a good singer.

• 47:05Laci Mosley?

  And beautiful.

• 47:06Speaker 04

  And beautiful.

• 47:07Laci Mosley?

  And nice. And they were like, oh, look at her getting all saccharine. She's not really that happy about that award. It's like, damn, the bitch can't smile? She didn't do nothing to you. She smiled and said, thank you. And they're like, oh, it's so saccharine, it's so fake. I'm like, listen, this is an Anne Hathaway podcast. Anne Hathaway, come on the show, okay?

• 47:23Speaker 04

  Please, come on the show.

• 47:25Laci Mosley?

  And be hilarious.

• 47:26Speaker 04

  I won't be here, but you should come and maybe I can watch.

• 47:28Laci Mosley?

  No, you can come back, you can, it'll be an ambush.

• 47:30Speaker 04

  I'll sit in the corner, I'll be so quiet.

• 47:34Laci Mosley?

  So unfortunately, Louis XVI had the cardinal arrested, right? And imprisoned in the bestie. He was tried before the Parliament of Paris and eventually acquitted of the charges of having fraudulently acquired the necklace. But he was deprived of all his offices and exiled to the Abbey of La Chardou in Auvergnay.

• 47:56Speaker 04

  Gorgeous.

• 47:56Laci Mosley?

  So that's a, this is where you're banished?

• 47:59Speaker 04

  That's exile.

• 48:00Laci Mosley?

  This is exile? Exile looks good. I wish this was exile because I know like America's finna close up shop. So I'm trying to see where I'm gonna go.

• 48:09Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 48:10Laci Mosley?

  Me and my cousins were talking about that in the car. They were like, does Donald Trump have a list of where he's deporting people? Do we have a choice?

• 48:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, sort of be like, yeah, I'll go back to Ireland or whatever.

• 48:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I might have to stay in Ireland. But the ICE situation is actually extremely serious and so fucked up. Like ICE is literally the Gestapo and it is just so awful to see. But it's also really wonderful to see how many fights I've seen online where like Americans are out in the streets just like fist fighting.

• 48:35Speaker 04

  And it's like, it's a circle. It's coming, it literally feels like history we're watching in real time.

• 48:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, repeat itself.

• 48:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:41Laci Mosley?

  And since we're not teaching history anymore, people are like, new, this is so new.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  Brand new.

• 48:46Laci Mosley?

  Brand new.

• 48:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:47Laci Mosley?

  And it's like, no, babes, this is real old.

• 48:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:49Laci Mosley?

  But I do like the people whose first time at protests and now they're like, well, why don't the protests have any activities for the children? I saw somebody complaining about that. Yeah, complaining about not having any activities for the children and complaining that there was no like daycare. Like, it's like, no. What do y'all think we were doing in the 60s? Or like, I don't know, last week, we have not stopped protesting black people. We haven't. But in the 60s, we were walking around in church suits and painful shoes, getting hosed and attacked by dogs. They didn't have no childcare.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:21Laci Mosley?

  Like, what?

• 49:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. And it's why community is so important is that you've got somebody that is, you know, sick or older and they can help look after kids or like talk to your neighbors. You know what I mean? Like, it's so important. It's like the biggest act of resistance I think we can do right now is like getting to know the people around us.

• 49:37Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and building that community back up because we all need it. And that's why there is such a huge, like, I'm not gonna contribute that to the loneliness epidemic. Some of y'all just don't have personalities. And so you made your personality hate and women and that's why you can't get you one.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Sure, sure.

• 49:50Laci Mosley?

  I can't feel sorry for you on that one, bro. You should, I mean, work, read a book, you know, make, make books your thing, you know? There's plenty of people who don't have a personality, but they are like, they have like a really intense hobby where they like go to the conventions for it and they have all of it and they know everything about it. I'm like, that's a personality? That's somebody who didn't have a natural charisma. But they were like, you know, my charisma is gonna be poggs.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh, love it.

• 50:13Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And nobody is more pog than me.

• 50:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, we both said our thing. I was like, oh, I love Legos, that's my thing.

• 50:22Laci Mosley?

  I mean, we have personalities. I don't, I don't have a specific hobby. I don't know what my, I guess it's scams. Oh, no.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 50:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no.

• 50:31Speaker 04

  That's hard.

• 50:31Laci Mosley?

  Did I not have a personality?

• 50:33Speaker 04

  No, no, no. I feel like scams, you have to have an unbelievable amount of personality to, just a baseline to get into.

• 50:39Laci Mosley?

  But I'm like the person who's like really into them. So that means I'm making scams my personality. And then I started calling myself scam goddess. And then I wrote a book called Scam Goddess. And I have a television show called Scam Goddess. And this podcast is called Scam Goddess. And I, now I do fraud conventions. Oh, no, scamming is my personality.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  Do you do fraud conventions?

• 50:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I just got back from the global fraud convention. I was speaking there. It was very cool.

• 51:01Speaker 04

  Is it a trap? I feel like it's a trap to be like, hey.

• 51:05Laci Mosley?

  Honestly.

• 51:05Speaker 04

  Come to the fraud convention.

• 51:07Laci Mosley?

  It's the worst place you want to be if you're a criminal, because everyone is a sleuth. Everyone is like in the FBI, or everybody's a forensic accountant, or they work for the IRS. So like, I learned what a lot of these people do. And I was like, this is the worst place to be a criminal. Because you, you got all the nerds together, and they're all like, very specifically focused on catching like certain types of fraud.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  Do they have events where they're like, we're gonna do one little crime, and then everyone's gonna have to try and figure it out? And whoever figures it out fastest.

• 51:33Laci Mosley?

  Fun.

• 51:33Speaker 04

  That's for free. That's for free for everybody.

• 51:35Laci Mosley?

  For y'all.

• 51:36Speaker 04

  So you can go ahead and take that.

• 51:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you gotta guess who's the criminal. It's like, that's so fun.

• 51:41Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 51:41Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Well, he was exiled to this big, beautiful place.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, gorgeous.

• 51:46Laci Mosley?

  To me, that's not quite a punishment. It sounds like you got to have lots of sex, and then just like a brief stay in the clink. And now you're living your days out in a mansion, so.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  Literally, just like a garden, a beautiful garden, probably like 2,000 bucks a month or something like that. For like a beautiful, like, big bedroom.

• 52:02Laci Mosley?

  It was like inherited, so.

• 52:04Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:05Laci Mosley?

  No money.

• 52:05Speaker 04

  No money. Free, someone else's money.

• 52:08Laci Mosley?

  So, the Countess de Lamont was sentenced to be flogged, branded, and imprisoned for life.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 52:15Laci Mosley?

  At the Salpatrière prison in Paris.

• 52:19Laci Mosley?

  She was branded with a hot iron with the V for voleos, which means thief.

• 52:27Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 52:28Laci Mosley?

  Voleos. I speak Spanish, guys. Voleos.

• 52:31Speaker 04

  No, you're nailing it. It sounds so beautiful.

• 52:33Laci Mosley?

  So, which means thief. So she got branded, like, so everybody would know from there on that she was a criminal.

• 52:41Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 52:42Laci Mosley?

  And when you think about like today's timing, like unless you get like, unless your crime is so famous that they do a documentary, like that's kind of our branding now is like Hulu puts out a doc about you.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, two weeks after it happened.

• 52:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my gosh, while it's happening.

• 52:56Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 52:57Laci Mosley?

  Did you see the advertisement on Hulu for the Diddy documentary? I'm not going to talk about Diddy or anything he did.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 53:03Laci Mosley?

  Because that's gross and he's, we know he's a bad, horrible, horrible person. But what was shocking to me was that it would be like every day that they were having court, then the doc would be up like today in court. I'm like, what? How are you making a documentary? He's literally.

• 53:19Speaker 04

  It's literally happening in real time.

• 53:21Laci Mosley?

  Happening. Like, they, they're so thirsty to be first now that I feel like they're like running out of the courtroom and just like uploading. Like, it's like how I post to Instagram, Hulu posts like.

• 53:30Speaker 04

  It's all vertical. Stitched together with cap cut.

• 53:35Laci Mosley?

  A documentary with cap cut is crazy. And you know, you know, you know, we love Hulu here, okay?

• 53:40Speaker 04

  We love Hulu.

• 53:41Laci Mosley?

  Watch Scam Goddess on Hulu. And Go In Dutch. We love Hulu. Hulu, my best friend. Hulu, Hulu's really lifted me up in my times of need, so.

• 53:50Speaker 04

  And I think you're the most talented person on the planet, so we love Hulu. We love them. We love them.

• 53:56Laci Mosley?

  Right there next to me. So also the flogging here is getting me. So flogging is like when they like whip you with like a, with a, with a whip.

• 54:07Speaker 04

  Oh, is that what it is?

• 54:08Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 54:08Speaker 04

  I think maybe because flog rhymes with log, I am just picturing like a plank. You know what I mean? That can't be right, though.

• 54:16Laci Mosley?

  Like she had to just hold a plank? That was like her punishment?

• 54:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's getting jacked.

• 54:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no, like getting hit with a plank goes wild.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  That's what I saw. It was like. But I think it is just because flog rhymes with log.

• 54:27Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that is so much more intense. It's yeah, it's when you get hit with a whip. But getting hit with a plank is wild as hell.

• 54:34Speaker 04

  Did you see Da Vinci Code? Is this what happens in Da Vinci Code with the Paul Bettany?

• 54:38Laci Mosley?

  I didn't see it, but I'm guessing that it probably is because it was like a big Christian act to like self-flagellation. Yeah, where you like whip yourself.

• 54:47Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 54:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 04

  There we go.

• 54:49Laci Mosley?

  And so not only did they put a V on her chest so people could tell that she was coming, they also whipped her ass. Like, that's crazy. And they threw her in jail. Like, she got all the punishments.

• 55:02Speaker 04

  Hers seems worse than the guy that was the one that like actually had his fingerprints over everything.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  Well, he technically thought he was paying for it and it was stolen from him. So that's why he was let out and he got to go to the mansion. But she straight up did set up the whole scam and scheme.

• 55:20Speaker 04

  So she got caught.

• 55:21Laci Mosley?

  She started rumors in court, remember? And she set up the scheme. And so they were like, well, we're gonna have to beat your ass and brand you. They were throwing you in jail. Like, that's a lot of prison. I mean, a lot of punishment.

• 55:31Speaker 04

  I feel like if, I mean, like, I don't know sort of like what the, what sort of the business world was like at that time, but I do feel like that could end up being like a calling card. Be like, look what I did. I was able to, I didn't get away with it, but like, look at all those.

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  I scam Marie Antoinette.

• 55:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she's definitely like famous in jail. Like, she's like a Jintzha in jail, for sure.

• 55:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, 1,000%.

• 55:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she's definitely famous. So in June 1787, oh, our goddess Countess Gossip, AKA formerly known as Countess Little Boobs.

• 56:06Speaker 04

  I love that you changed her name, so you didn't have to say Little Boobs anymore. But it is just kind of fun to say, unfortunately.

• 56:12Laci Mosley?

  And also just need to remind people.

• 56:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:15Laci Mosley?

  So in June 1787, she escaped from prison dressed as a boy. Okay, see, those little boobs came in handy.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  Saved her life.

• 56:24Laci Mosley?

  Saved her life. So she left dressed as a boy. She fled to England and published scandalous memoirs, Shit Talking the Queen. I love this person so much.

• 56:39Speaker 04

  Incredible. Burning towels?

• 56:41Laci Mosley?

  Like you left jail and instead of quietly like living as someone who has fled prison, you were like, I'm gonna start Lady Whistleboobs. Countess Littleboobs let it whistle down. Like in England and just talk shit about the queen.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  Incredible.

• 56:59Laci Mosley?

  My goodness. So the full title is Memoirs of the Contessa de Lamont, containing a complete justification of her conduct and an explanation of the intrigues and artifices used against her by her enemies relative to the diamond necklace. That is the whole title.

• 57:18Speaker 04

  Snappy.

• 57:20Laci Mosley?

  Very snappy.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Right off the tongue.

• 57:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh my, that is a long ass title.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:29Laci Mosley?

  And I love that in here, she's like, it's a, it's an explanation of her content. Or I'm sorry, her, um, her conduct and how people, her enemies were hating on her. And how really we can justify what she did. She's like, first of all, it was justified. Second of all, they was all hating on me. Um.

• 57:49Speaker 04

  I love this too, because she's, I guess theoretically been in jail for years at this point, right?

• 57:53Laci Mosley?

  I mean, she got out in seventeen eighty seven and let me see when she was flogged. Um.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  Check the flog date.

• 58:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we gotta look at the flog date to see if she was in jail very long, because I wanna say that she wasn't.

• 58:06Speaker 04

  Okay, cuz I'm like, then I guess it is topical, but even if like two years had gone past, surely other things have happened at this point.

• 58:12Laci Mosley?

  It's at least after seventeen seventy four. So I think seventeen eighty five is when the scam happened. So seventeen eighty seven, she couldn't have been there long.

• 58:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, like three years.

• 58:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 58:23Speaker 04

  So I guess long enough that people would remember, but they would have been like, oh, right, that thing that happened. Or maybe news just didn't move as fast at that point in time, but it is funny.

• 58:31Laci Mosley?

  Of course not, like.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  But then she wrote an entire book and got it published and got distribution. People would have been clamoring for that distribution, let's be honest.

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  Well, I think that it's not a book. It's, it does say memoirs, but.

• 58:46Speaker 04

  Pamphlet?

• 58:46Laci Mosley?

  I think it would have been Lady Whistle Down.

• 58:49Speaker 04

  She's Mean Girl style, Back to the Crown, just like ripping out pages and like throwing it down the hallway for people to read.

• 58:54Laci Mosley?

  Yes, that was definitely what was happening. And I guess they have some of them. So she did this in seventeen eighty nine. A bad bitch you could never kill.

• 59:02Speaker 04

  Yeah. Really incredible.

• 59:05Laci Mosley?

  So, yeah, it's like a little gossip rag.

• 59:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:07Laci Mosley?

  That she's just throwing out to the people and talking her shit. So though Marie Antoinette didn't actually do anything wrong here, the scandal confirmed the belief of French people at the time that she was morally loose and frivolous. Oh. Man, why she gotta be morally loose? Well, she is just... So people were looking for reasons to hate on her, right?

• 59:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  This Marie Antoinette. I kind of lowkey don't believe a lot of the stuff that they say about Marie Antoinette because isn't it historically inaccurate? Like, didn't she never say, "Let them eat cake"?

• 59:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, wasn't it somebody else where she said something?

• 59:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they said that was made up. And I'm like, she was just a bad bitch and y'all was just hating on a bad bitch. And that's what it's giving.

• 59:43Speaker 04

  It really is so tricky because it's like, I totally understand people being frustrated and being like, "You're so rich and like, nobody is doing anything." But also too, I would imagine being a woman during that time, she didn't really have any power in the situation, did she?

• 59:57Laci Mosley?

  Maybe.

• 59:58Speaker 04

  I don't know, maybe.

• 59:59Laci Mosley?

  She did talk about those warships.

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, a bunch. Well, she didn't get them. She just talked about them, she didn't get them.

• 1:00:04Laci Mosley?

  Right, she was like, looking at them. She was like, she was shopping for a warship.

• 1:00:08Speaker 04

  She was shopping for a warship. Couldn't find the one in the right color that she liked.

• 1:00:11Laci Mosley?

  So, they already didn't like that she was originally from Austria rather than France. She was relatively uneducated. She spent a lot of money.

• 1:00:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:20Laci Mosley?

  And France itself was being, like, they were in a recession. So this was putting everybody in a really bad mood. Yeah, recession is putting it lightly. These people were starving on the streets. Like, is that what we're calling a recession now?

• 1:00:35Speaker 04

  It seems like it.

• 1:00:35Laci Mosley?

  We're just in a little recession, people starving on the streets, you know, giving away their babies.

• 1:00:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, no home, no clothes.

• 1:00:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Scraping his ground.

• 1:00:43Speaker 04

  Tough, tough, tough look.

• 1:00:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but you know, the markets will be back up soon. Like, now we're back into present day.

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, it is really tough because it's like, on the one hand, like, did Marie Antoinette say, "Let them eat cake"? Maybe not. But she is like, I don't know, I was really hoping for a red warship and they only have it in silver.

• 1:00:59Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  And that's really tough.

• 1:01:00Laci Mosley?

  It's like, she didn't say it, but she kind of said it with her actions.

• 1:01:05Speaker 04

  We're making it snappy or somebody punched it up for her, actually. They're doing her a favor.

• 1:01:08Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. So, the arbitrary arrest of the Cardinal, and that's Cardinal Horny Man, remember?

• 1:01:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:17Laci Mosley?

  The pressure put on his judges and the final disgrace made the king look weak and his government look tyrannical. This whole like necklace situation happened and it was, remember Countess Gossip? Countess Littleboobs?

• 1:01:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:31Laci Mosley?

  Remember, remember she was going around court talking shit about Marie Antoinette and saying that she was trying to buy this necklace. So all of this makes the king look weak, right? It looks like the women are running the court and how dare women run things?

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Laci Mosley?

  You know, because of that pesky, you know, womanhood.

• 1:01:50Speaker 04

  Of course. Classic.

• 1:01:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So the king now looks really weak and his government also looks like assholes because y'all are over here talking about a seventeen million dollar necklace while people are starving.

• 1:02:00Speaker 04

  That is so funny that they're like, the people are really unhappy. It must be because the women are running the court. That's gotta be it. That's why they're unhappy.

• 1:02:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. We can't have women running things.

• 1:02:10Speaker 04

  It's not because people are starving and dying in the street.

• 1:02:12Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:02:13Speaker 04

  It's because of these ladies.

• 1:02:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's because of these ladies. And back to present day, we could have had Kamala Harris, but y'all were like, no, not a woman.

• 1:02:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:23Laci Mosley?

  With a woman this. No, no, no, no, no. We will take the criminal who is literally robbing us blind and deporting citizens.

• 1:02:30Speaker 04

  Not even blind, in front of our faces.

• 1:02:31Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, it's not even blind. He didn't even bother. He was like, no, I'm stealing from y'all. When did my jet get here? He's definitely gonna try to take that jet when he leaves office.

• 1:02:39Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. One thousand percent. He's like putting his name on it. He's like, it's got my name on it. What are you gonna do with it? It's got my name on it.

• 1:02:46Laci Mosley?

  Trump air. No, it's for me. I guess I could take one thing. Reagan did it. Somebody had a plane.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, that classic rule. When you leave the presidency, you get to take one thing with you.

• 1:02:56Laci Mosley?

  But like, I think he's trying to play it like, I think what he's gonna do is pretend like he's putting it in his presidential library because presidents in the past have done that, but then it's gonna disappear.

• 1:03:06Speaker 04

  The plane is going in the library. The plane is gonna teach kids how to read. There's no drag queen story time, there's gonna be plane story time.

• 1:03:13Laci Mosley?

  The kids are gonna learn how to read. They're gonna get in the plane and they're gonna learn to read so good. We got the best people from the military.

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whose wives will be teaching. The wives have the bachelor degree. It's fine.

• 1:03:24Laci Mosley?

  It's fine.

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  You're doing an excellent impression, I can't even try.

• 1:03:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it haunts my dreams. Well, I guess those will be called nightmares.

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  Sure, sure, sure, sure.

• 1:03:35Laci Mosley?

  So, a dream with Trump and it is not a dream. So, um, they already hated on Marie, right? And now, like, the king looks weak because all this stuff is going on. You know, everybody's gasping. So, the diamond necklace incident was one of many factors leading to the end of the political and social systems in France. And therefore, to the French Revolution, including Marie Antoinette's death by guillotine.

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:02Laci Mosley?

  So, all of this basically got ramped up because of Countess Littlebun and her scam.

• 1:04:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like-

• 1:04:10Laci Mosley?

  And her gossiping.

• 1:04:11Speaker 04

  And it kinda seems like the winner in all of this is the guy that she used, what's his name again?

• 1:04:16Laci Mosley?

  Oh, uh-

• 1:04:17Speaker 04

  Lord Farquhar?

• 1:04:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:18Speaker 04

  What is it?

• 1:04:19Laci Mosley?

  Let's go with that, no, Della, her ex-husband, or maybe they stayed together.

• 1:04:23Speaker 04

  The affair partner, this guy, right? Cause he's sort of-

• 1:04:25Laci Mosley?

  He was the mark, though.

• 1:04:27Speaker 04

  But didn't he end up just like getting-

• 1:04:30Laci Mosley?

  This is Cardinal horny.

• 1:04:30Speaker 04

  This is Cardinal horny.

• 1:04:31Laci Mosley?

  He was the mark.

• 1:04:32Speaker 04

  Right, of course. So, it seems like the husband is the one that sort of walked off and was like, kinda won.

• 1:04:36Laci Mosley?

  Really kinda won. But I think the husband did end up having to go to somebody's jail.

• 1:04:40Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:04:40Laci Mosley?

  But the husband kinda won, so-

• 1:04:42Speaker 04

  So, okay, there you go.

• 1:04:44Laci Mosley?

  So, the affair probably should have bankrupted the jewelers, Balmer and Basseange. But their company is still around today.

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 1:04:53Laci Mosley?

  And I mean, there's, do we like these earrings?

• 1:04:58Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:05:01Speaker 04

  That one?

• 1:05:04Speaker 04

  Do I like that?

• 1:05:05Laci Mosley?

  The only earring we can see, big?

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  Right. Oh, whoa. So it's so, listen, art comes in all forms and sometimes people, it's good. Do you like it?

• 1:05:17Laci Mosley?

  Um. Can we zoom in a little bit more?

• 1:05:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe zoom in a little bit more. That's gonna be the problem is we're just not seeing it.

• 1:05:24Laci Mosley?

  It's.

• 1:05:25Speaker 04

  Maybe zoom out a lot more, actually.

• 1:05:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, maybe further away.

• 1:05:28Speaker 04

  Way further away.

• 1:05:29Laci Mosley?

  So, so far away.

• 1:05:30Speaker 04

  That's much better.

• 1:05:30Laci Mosley?

  And then let me just. Okay, when I look at it from back here, now, oh, yeah, that's, that's good. That's a good thing.

• 1:05:39Speaker 04

  Huh. I almost like a jellyfish, if I'm being honest.

• 1:05:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:42Speaker 04

  Like a sexy jellyfish.

• 1:05:44Laci Mosley?

  It looks like something you would find at Claire's in that, like a half off, like a 70% off bin.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  Okay, here's what I'll say about it that's good, is that from far away, you can tell that she's wearing earrings. So if you want people from afar to be able to tell that you're wearing an earring, that is absolutely accomplishing it.

• 1:06:00Laci Mosley?

  They're gonna be, they're gonna know.

• 1:06:02Speaker 04

  How much is that? Is this one of those things where they don't put the prices on the website?

• 1:06:05Laci Mosley?

  Is it so expensive that they don't put the price on the website?

• 1:06:07Speaker 04

  Like Inquire Within, and then they see that you have a Gmail account and they're like, we're not even gonna send this back to you.

• 1:06:12Laci Mosley?

  You're poor. You can't afford this. If you need to know the price, that means you can't afford it.

• 1:06:16Speaker 04

  You can't afford it.

• 1:06:18Laci Mosley?

  For home, we, we, okay, this, that's.

• 1:06:21Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:06:22Laci Mosley?

  No. Okay, we have to post that photo on the. No. What kind of jewelry are y'all making?

• 1:06:30Speaker 04

  If you like this, I will support you 1,000%. I'll go bad for you in the comments.

• 1:06:34Laci Mosley?

  I want you to have it if it's what you want.

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  Cause that's all jewelry, right? If like, it's like, my mom used to like those Pandora bracelets and I'm like, I love that for you. I'm so happy that you like that.

• 1:06:44Laci Mosley?

  Pandora because it is like a multi-level marketing like scheme where it's like you buy the bracelet, but then every year you gotta get her a new little charm to commemorate the bracelet. So you buying the bracelet forever.

• 1:06:56Speaker 04

  Forever. It's a multi-level marketing scheme for ants.

• 1:06:58Laci Mosley?

  You never stop buying the bracelet.

• 1:07:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:00Laci Mosley?

  Okay, those are, now we found something that's.

• 1:07:05Speaker 04

  It's a lot of diamonds.

• 1:07:06Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:07:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay. We keep trying to like it and then we really see it and we're like, oh.

• 1:07:12Speaker 04

  It's like, you know what? Okay, here's what they should do. This slideshow is happening every like three seconds. They're flipping through slides. If they were flipping through these slides, uh, like at like point five seconds, so we were literally just getting flashes.

• 1:07:22Laci Mosley?

  Oh yeah, then we'd be like bling bling.

• 1:07:24Speaker 04

  Like if we were having a war flashback or something like that.

• 1:07:26Laci Mosley?

  Bad Girls Club, like the old like logo, like why do I, this old top tenic ass jewelry.

• 1:07:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:07:32Laci Mosley?

  It's very, my heart will go on, every piece.

• 1:07:35Speaker 04

  One thousand percent.

• 1:07:36Laci Mosley?

  Every piece needs to be worn until old age and then thrown into the ocean.

• 1:07:39Speaker 04

  Ocean.

• 1:07:40Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:43Laci Mosley?

  And on that note, that brings us to the end of a fantastic episode. Vic, you are amazing.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Lacey, I literally, I truly cannot tell you what a fan I am of this podcast. I've been traveling and I've been listening to it over and over again. So I've been listening to your voice for so long and now like being in person and watching your voice come out of your mouth in real time is very surreal. So it like truly, I'm such a fan first and foremost.

• 1:08:03Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much. I want to come do your show, VIP.

• 1:08:06Speaker 04

  You have to, we're going to beg you.

• 1:08:09Laci Mosley?

  And on that, is there anything else you want to plug where people can see you, all those things?

• 1:08:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, um, Transgender Law Center, uh, obviously with a lot of horrible, terrible, no good, very bad things, uh, going on is a really wonderful resource. Uh, go follow them or find truly any local organization that you feel strongly about. Um, I've got a lot of LGBTQ ones, uh, that I feel really strongly about, but truly anything that is doing good in your community at a local level, please go follow, go support, even if you can't monetarily, uh, with the, uh, your follow and your signal boost would be great. Uh, that's what I would like to plug.

• 1:08:39Laci Mosley?

  I love that.

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:40Laci Mosley?

  And then, um, for us, I guess I'm just going to be the capitalist here.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  No, please.

• 1:08:45Laci Mosley?

  D I B A L A C I D, Lacey on all platforms. If you want to see the photos of all this beautiful jewelries, beautiful jewelry.

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  It's so, it's big. It's big and it's there and you can see it.

• 1:09:01Laci Mosley?

  Big jewelry. There we go. That's not a lie. I was like, I can say real fast, jewelry.

• 1:09:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:09:07Laci Mosley?

  Then you can go on Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram or Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter if you'd like to chat with me. All episodes of Scam Goddess are streaming now on Hulu. All of the first season of Going Dutch is also streaming now on Hulu. And who knows, by this time I might already be back in Ireland.

• 1:09:24Laci Mosley?

  So remember me different. Uh, and then my book, Scam Goddess, you can purchase where books are sold or audio books. And, and charity, definitely, um,

• 1:09:34Laci Mosley?

  Do that.

• 1:09:34Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:09:36Laci Mosley?

  And it. I had to bring it back. I feel like I just sold way too many things.

• 1:09:39Speaker 04

  No, no. Listen, here's the thing is like, I think that honestly, taking you create so much joy and all of your things create so much joy. And I think like preserving some peace and like having joy to go like donate to charity and do work and stuff like that is also really important.

• 1:09:50Laci Mosley?

  And like Vic, I know you're really involved in these causes, but like, I feel like because your plug was so, I feel like people are gonna listen to this and be like, okay, they just like gave us some good resources to help the community. And then I'm like, and buy my stuff and buy this stuff and buy that stuff and buy this stuff. Am I ready to answer that?

• 1:10:10Speaker 04

  I'll do one too. I'll do a, I'll do a, uh, one that I, that's like fun too. Um, I like slinkies. I've gotten back into slinkies recently. So go find one online, buy it from a big box store. Um, and so that's my other plug.

• 1:10:22Laci Mosley?

  And that's like not even yours, slinky. You're not gonna receive any proceeds?

• 1:10:26Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:10:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:10:27Speaker 04

  And I don't have stairs in my place.

• 1:10:28Laci Mosley?

  I'm just sitting here with an angel and me and just a little devil.

• 1:10:31Speaker 04

  That's what I keep telling everyone.

• 1:10:33Laci Mosley?

  But congregation, I want y'all to get out there and, um, mm, mm, mm.

• 1:10:45Laci Mosley?

  I want y'all to get out there. Okay. You know what congregation? I want you to get out there and stay contesting. Okay. Con- contest things and also be a Contessa or, or a count.

• 1:10:57Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Sisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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