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0:00 Lewis Howes? This is episode number 472 with the F2 Freestylers.
0:07 Lewis Howes? Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.
0:33 Lewis Howes? Welcome everyone to the School of Greatness. We've got a couple of athletes in the studio today. And I'm excited about this because I always love to connect with athletes because it brings me back to my roots, back to the primal days of competing. Now Billy Wingrove and Jeremy Lynch make up the F2 Freestylers. Now, these guys are the world's largest soccer YouTube channel with over 5.5 million subscribers, larger than any other celebrity soccer player out there. And they're based in London, UK. They began as individual freestyle soccer performers, just working on the streets or little company gigs, things like that, doing trick performances as individuals.
1:16 Lewis Howes? And after successful individual freestyle careers, they decided to team up and form a double act, thus the birth of the F2. Now, the rapid growth of their social channels fueled by insane skill compilations led us to today where F2 are global ambassadors for Adidas Football, the brand's first ever official influencer partnership. Now, here's what I love about these guys. These guys weren't really making that much money doing things on their own. But together, they were able to build such a powerful, massive brand that's making them more money than most of the pro soccer players out there.
1:56 Lewis Howes? And it's so cool to see how quickly they did it. So in this interview, we're going to talk about how Billy and Jeremy went from freelance freestylers to the biggest soccer YouTube channel in the world. Why failure can be the perfect springboard to success. How to create true fans, the keys to a successful professional partnership because I've been in partnerships that have done incredible. I've been in partnerships that have not done that well. And we talk about how to make it work extremely well. So all parties win and you guys don't kill each other. Also, how to create media content that appeals to a worldwide audience. I am pumped for this one. And before we dive in, I want to give a shout out to our iTunes review of the week.
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4:08 Lewis Howes? All right, gang, without further ado, let me introduce to you the dynamic freestyle football duo, Billy and Jeremy from the F2 Freestylers.
4:22 Lewis Howes? Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness Podcast. Excited about our guest today. We usually don't have two people on, but we do today. We've got the F2 freestylers in the house. Good to see you guys.
4:32 Speaker 02 Good to see you too.
4:32 Lewis Howes? How are you guys doing?
4:34 Speaker 02 Really good, man. Really good. This is such a cool room.
4:37 Speaker 03 It's so cool.
4:37 Lewis Howes? Yeah, it's not bad, right? We just redesigned this, so we're trying to make the studio of greatness inspirational for people who come here.
4:45 Speaker 02 You've done it. Well, look at the Hall of Fame. I mean, look at the images there.
4:48 Lewis Howes? We'll get you on there soon. We'll get some good photos. Get you up there. I'm excited you guys are here and I, you know, I'm an American football player, the real football, right?
4:59 Speaker 02 We don't want to start on that. We don't want to start on that, no.
5:05 Lewis Howes? You guys are doing the, in America, it's called soccer, it's called football. In the UK and everywhere else in the world. And you guys do essentially a lot of combination trick shots. You do different skill training, things like that in videos to inspire, educate and entertain. Is that right?
5:23 Speaker 02 He's pretty much summed that up.
5:24 Lewis Howes? That's pretty much it, right?
5:25 Speaker 03 That's literally bang on of what we do.
5:27 Lewis Howes? That's it. You guys have millions, you have like 5 million on YouTube subscribers. You've got millions on Instagram and people know you all over the world except for in the US, but it's starting to grow, right? It's starting to grow.
5:37 Speaker 02 It's starting to grow, yeah.
5:38 Speaker 03 15% of our audience is based in the US, which is quite a big number. We've got collectively across social media, we've got 12 million fans.
5:46 Lewis Howes? Amazing.
5:46 Speaker 03 Which is really good going for two football guys.
5:49 Speaker 02 12.8 now.
5:51 Lewis Howes? Oh snap.
5:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, mate.
5:52 Speaker 03 You know what? I checked it two days ago. I'm on the day off.
6:00 Lewis Howes? That's gotta be bigger than some of the big stars. I mean, what's like, what's a Messi have on his social reach?
6:05 Speaker 02 Oh, his is, his is. Depends. Different stars are bigger on different platforms, right? Messi's big on Facebook.
6:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:13 Speaker 02 He's big on everything.
6:14 Lewis Howes? But you guys probably have a bigger reach than a lot of the big stars in the Premier League, I would assume.
6:18 Speaker 03 Well, if you look, take YouTube for example. Real Madrid have a YouTube channel, Barcelona. We have the biggest soccer YouTube channel in the world.
6:27 Lewis Howes? Shut up.
6:27 Speaker 03 In the whole world. So nobody's bigger than us. And on Instagram, out of the whole, anyone in the UK, we get more views on Instagram than anyone in the UK, any celebrity.
6:39 Lewis Howes? You have more views on Instagram than anyone in the UK.
6:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, anyone.
6:42 Lewis Howes? Than any video?
6:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:44 Lewis Howes? That's crazy.
6:44 Speaker 03 Uh, sport.
6:45 Lewis Howes? Sports.
6:47 Speaker 02 I don't know the exact stat. Don't comment, but it's it's it's.
6:50 Lewis Howes? In average, probably.
6:51 Speaker 02 It's silly number, we do silly numbers. I remember one month, we did more views in that month than Kylie Jenner and Cristiano Ronaldo and Ariana Grande. It was something, that that was a one-off month.
7:03 Lewis Howes? Right, right.
7:04 Speaker 02 But they they they beat us all.
7:05 Speaker 03 Well, I think it is views. I think that's right. Any video on YouTube, Instagram, we do outperform.
7:11 Speaker 02 I think.
7:11 Speaker 03 But it's it's a bit of a tricky one, really, because with Instagram, mainly mainly people post images, right? We we we've got we've got content as well, so.
7:19 Lewis Howes? Yeah, of course.
7:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:20 Lewis Howes? Amazing. When did you guys start this?
7:22 Speaker 02 We started the F2 about four years ago.
7:25 Lewis Howes? Wow, it's grown that fast?
7:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's been a.
7:28 Lewis Howes? That's crazy.
7:29 Speaker 02 Really fast journey. Um, but we knew each other from before then, but we were individual professional football freestylers for quite a few years.
7:39 Lewis Howes? Now, what does that mean?
7:41 Speaker 02 That's just football tricks, like, um.
7:43 Speaker 03 Entertainers.
7:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:44 Lewis Howes? Getting paid.
7:45 Speaker 03 Stage shows.
7:46 Speaker 02 Stage shows, live performances with just you and a football, um.
7:50 Lewis Howes? Or busking on the streets type of thing, kind of.
7:52 Speaker 02 We've done a bit, well, I I did.
7:54 Speaker 03 That's how it starts, right?
7:55 Lewis Howes? Right, you're performing in the streets, earning a hundred bucks, right?
7:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's how it starts.
7:59 Speaker 03 That's how it starts. And then you start getting, um, bigger performances.
8:02 Lewis Howes? Mm-hmm. Someone will see you there and be like, hey, come do this thing, this company show, this whatever, right? Yeah.
8:08 Speaker 02 That's how it started.
8:09 Lewis Howes? And you start building your own personal brand, and then how did you guys meet each other then?
8:13 Speaker 02 How did we meet each other?
8:14 Speaker 03 Well, we we've known each other for for years and and it's basically been from the circuit. So when we were younger, and I'm talking about in in our early teens, um, I knew about Jeremy. He lived in East London. I lived in North London.
8:25 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
8:25 Speaker 02 I was I was like, who's this guy? Keeps trying to call me. I don't know who he is.
8:31 Speaker 02 Now, we knew each other, we knew each other from back then.
8:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, and we actually met at a football tournament where Jeremy was performing and so was I, at separate stands. And we kept in touch since then and I got Jeremy to sign with my agency at the time. Because he he came off the back of Britain's Got Talent and he didn't have no management representing you and I felt that.
8:54 Speaker 02 How far did you go on the show? I got to the semi-finals, the live semi-finals. Wow. And then drop the ball twice, which was car crash television, but it's memorable. Car crash television is memorable and if I ask, it was funny, at the time I was devastated. Right. In tears. It's like the worst feeling ever, my career's over. Yeah, the most, you know that gutty feeling you have in your stomach when something terrible happens? You just, you feel totally humiliated. I had all of that for ages. But then, when I look back now, it was one of the best, best things that happened to me. Really, why? Because it was so memorable and I was, I was really confident, overconfident.
9:36 Speaker 02 And that's why I made those mistakes back then. I was a young kid, borderline cocky. So, the British public, if they see someone who's really confident and successful. They don't like it. They kind of want to see it go wrong. Really? And I gave them that without meaning to. Wow. And then from then on, it endeared me to the British public so much more than if I had done a perfect flawless routine. I can see that now and look back and it's so memorable and people still to this day remember that performance. And say, oh, you still thought it was amazing, the drop the ball twice, didn't matter, loved it, still voted for you. But at the time, obviously. That was embarrassing, ego hurts. Oh, everything, yeah. Oh, man.
10:16 Speaker 03 But the, the funny thing about that is, I remember saying to Jez, I remember when he was on the show and he could have won, he was the most popular person on that show.
10:23 Speaker 02 Oh, really?
10:23 Speaker 03 And if he didn't drop the ball, he would have won it. And what Jeremy's downfall was, I, I feel. Is that when you went on to the show, he tried to create a whole new routine just for that show. There's 12 million people watching this show.
10:36 Speaker 02 Ninety nine percent of them have never seen him do a trick before, so he could have kept it simple. And gone through to the final and won the show. But he wanted to create something brand new just for that performance, um. Which is added pressure, right, doing something for the first time live.
10:50 Lewis Howes? Isn't it hard though, like as a speaker myself, I get bored of saying the same thing over and over to all these different audiences. But they've never heard me say the same thing. But I think, I gotta tell a different story, this isn't gonna be interesting, this is gonna be boring or whatever.
11:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:03 Lewis Howes? Or you just wanna do it for yourself even.
11:05 Speaker 02 I'm with you.
11:06 Lewis Howes? What do you do? Um, do the same trick over and over like.
11:08 Speaker 02 What do you do? Do you keep it the same or do you mix it up?
11:11 Lewis Howes? Uh, it depends on the audience and what they're wanting, but I pretty much say a lot of the similar stuff and.
11:15 Speaker 02 Cause it's good information, right?
11:17 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
11:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:17 Lewis Howes? And a lot of them haven't heard it, so.
11:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:19 Lewis Howes? Again, it's like you gotta do what you, what got you there.
11:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:22 Lewis Howes? You know?
11:23 Speaker 02 I agree.
11:23 Lewis Howes? But if you only had a coach then.
11:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's what I was thinking, if I had a mentor back then, um, someone who'd give me that wise little bit of advice.
11:33 Speaker 03 The F two wouldn't have been born.
11:34 Speaker 02 That's true.
11:36 Lewis Howes? If you had won, what would have happened?
11:39 Speaker 02 Uh, I probably would have been.
11:42 Lewis Howes? How much?
11:42 Speaker 02 Do you know what? I don't know, I don't know. I'd like to think that we would have still come together as the F two because even with me. Um, messing up and not winning.
11:55 Speaker 02 We were still the two most successful, um, freestylers in the world.
12:00 Lewis Howes? Really?
12:00 Speaker 02 On our individual paths.
12:01 Lewis Howes? You were.
12:01 Speaker 02 And it just so happened that we lived twenty eight miles from each other. We got along really, really well, we stayed in touch. And they, and we, we were on a lot of sim, the same jobs together as individuals. And then we started to do little bits in synchrony in, um, together. When we weren't really, we didn't have to, we were on the jobs as individuals, right, but we were like. Let's step this up and let's do this at the same time. And the response to it was incredible.
12:30 Lewis Howes? Choreographed.
12:31 Speaker 02 Choreographed, yeah.
12:32 Speaker 03 Yeah, basically, there was loads of people at that time. When we first started freestyle, there wasn't many people about at all doing what we do.
12:42 Lewis Howes? Choreographed.
12:42 Speaker 03 Uh, you, you're not even choreographed before that, just performing and then.
12:47 Speaker 02 Years went by and more and more people got into it. They saw what we were doing and copied and copied that kind of format and practised all day long. So the demand, how can I put this? Basically, personally, I felt the freestyle had been seen as individually. Uh, it's still going on now. Um, it's a bit controversial when we're saying that, but I thought it'd been seen and done as for individuals. Um, a bit like The Hills when it came out. It was like, wow, what is this new thing? We had it eating me. And then now everyone's doing it and it's a bit.
13:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, and it's oversaturated and people expect to be amazed, so.
13:25 Lewis Howes? So if you're doing the same thing as someone else is doing, it's like you gotta one up it, right?
13:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, and that's exactly it. And then we thought, yeah. But then we thought about, um, how do we evolve what we basically started? And the double act choreograph in sync music was the way to do that. Um, nobody's done that before. It's never been seen before.
13:43 Lewis Howes? Now you're gonna need what you got at Universal with the water and the.
13:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, you got it up here. Yeah, but that's what you constantly have to do, don't you?
13:52 Speaker 02 Because. It's true, it's true. So we had a clear vision of what we wanted to do as the next step. We'd already got to the top as individuals. We were the most successful individual freestylers, earning the most money.
14:06 Lewis Howes? How much can an individual freestyler make today or even four years ago?
14:10 Speaker 02 Back then, um, you were earning more than me. I remember that. You were doing really, really well.
14:16 Lewis Howes? Um. You make like a six figures, like.
14:18 Speaker 02 No, no, no.
14:19 Lewis Howes? Fifty grand.
14:20 Speaker 02 No, it's more like.
14:22 Lewis Howes? For the year?
14:22 Speaker 02 You'd do a commercial and you'd get a buyout and you'd get like twenty grand maybe from. And that's a bit like modeling.
14:30 Lewis Howes? Yeah, I got you. So it might pass good months and bad months.
14:32 Speaker 02 And then you might do, you do regular PAs and you might get a grand for a PA. And if you're doing a few of them a week, that type of money.
14:40 Speaker 03 I think my best year, um, as an individual freestyler, looking back on it, was about eighty K. Um, which is, which is not, which is not bad, like, and I thought that was like an incredible year. I was super busy as a World Cup year. Um, that's as an individual freestyler with just, um.
14:58 Speaker 02 Stage show performing as your income. So you have to kind of be in that place to earn to earn the money performing.
15:05 Lewis Howes? Right.
15:05 Speaker 02 Um.
15:06 Lewis Howes? But now as a tandem, the financial potential is unlimited.
15:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, it's not really performing anymore. See, we the the.
15:14 Lewis Howes? It's content now, right?
15:15 Speaker 02 It's content. So with YouTube, um, i- is our main source of income. It's what we do for for for a job now. So it's changed from doing stage shows to now creating content for what is like the whole world, really.
15:29 Lewis Howes? Amazing. You have the largest soccer channel on YouTube, right? Yeah. How often do you post content there?
15:35 Speaker 02 On YouTube, three times a week.
15:37 Lewis Howes? Three times a week.
15:38 Speaker 02 On or across all social, every single day.
15:41 Lewis Howes? Of course.
15:41 Speaker 02 Every single day.
15:42 Lewis Howes? And how do you come up with new content for for YouTube? Is it always, you know?
15:46 Speaker 02 Great question.
15:47 Speaker 03 And that's the key, really.
15:48 Speaker 02 That is the key.
15:49 Speaker 03 Being successful.
15:50 Speaker 02 So you've got millions of people. I know soccer's not the biggest sport in the U S, but in the world.
15:56 Lewis Howes? Worldwide, it's it's one of the it's the biggest next to cricket, I think, right? Or what is?
15:59 Speaker 02 It's the top in the world.
16:01 Lewis Howes? Is it the number one sport in the world?
16:02 Speaker 02 Yeah. So what that means is you've got more people playing football than any other sport in the world. And this new social media boom means that so many millions of kids now, they want to be YouTubers. So they're all trying to think of soccer ideas for videos that haven't been done before. So the job that we have is thinking of things that the rest of the millions of people around the world haven't thought of yet. We're pretty good at it.
16:33 Lewis Howes? There's always some kids like trying something crazy, right?
16:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, um, and we've got a long list. It's just in iPhone notes, a really long list of video ideas that we've both come up with. Sometimes he might um text me, might WhatsApp me at two in the morning, Jess, I've got this amazing video idea. It'll go totally viral. And I know when he says that, he's right.
16:55 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
16:56 Speaker 02 So I get the phone, write in the list and then go back to sleep. And the list is is growing quicker than we're ticking them off. So that's that's good. Hopefully, we won't stop coming up with fresh ideas. I don't think we will. He's got a really creative mind. I've got a creative mind and together.
17:11 Lewis Howes? And your talent is.
17:11 Speaker 02 It's a devastating combination.
17:14 Lewis Howes? That's great, man.
17:15 Speaker 03 Devastating. You give yourself devastating.
17:18 Speaker 02 I'm all right. He's involved. I give it.
17:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:22 Lewis Howes? Now, do you think you play professionally?
17:24 Speaker 02 Not professionally, no, only semi-professional.
17:26 Lewis Howes? Semi-professional, what does that mean, did you get paid or no?
17:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, we got paid, well, it's my job, um, Jeremy was actually at Arsenal, um, youth.
17:35 Lewis Howes? What happened?
17:37 Speaker 02 They didn't think I was good enough, they were probably right at the time, to be fair to them.
17:41 Lewis Howes? Like, he's too cocky.
17:42 Speaker 02 Uh, maybe, no, they, they said, on the ball, you are amazing.
17:50 Speaker 02 Off the ball, your understanding of the game's not quite good enough, and that was true, to be honest, and I think that comes back down to the humble beginnings where we came from, you know, uh, like, my dad wasn't a football coach or in the game with any sort of influence or power, um, I didn't join a team until I was twelve years old. So I didn't really have that co- coaching from a young age, so I was raw, I was a bit of a street player. Just raw talent, but not the understanding of the sweet science of football. If there's any boxers that watch, they'll be like, why is he taking our phrase and using it for the soccer?
18:28 Speaker 02 But yeah, I mean, the kids at the pro club academies, they're getting coached from, how young would you say, Bill?
18:35 Speaker 03 Five and six, they're getting, um, coached from a ridiculous age, I mean, in the UK now, you can start up children's soccer camps at three years old.
18:43 Lewis Howes? What?
18:44 Speaker 03 I mean, yeah.
18:44 Lewis Howes? They have a walk then?
18:45 Speaker 03 No, yes, mini tots they call it, and it's just.
18:48 Lewis Howes? Crazy, what do you do with them?
18:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, they basically just, uh, get a pitch, give them the ball, introduce them to a soccer ball.
18:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:55 Speaker 03 But it's incre- it's, it's, um, to be honest, I, I think that, I've got a son that's two years old, I would take him to the soccer camp.
19:02 Lewis Howes? You would?
19:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:03 Lewis Howes? Wow.
19:03 Speaker 03 Um, I would do that, I would be one of the keen parents that does that.
19:06 Lewis Howes? Sure, sure.
19:08 Speaker 02 Do you know what the funny thing is, YouTube didn't really exist back then so much, it was really new, I think it'd just come out.
19:14 Lewis Howes? Right.
19:15 Speaker 02 It wasn't like it is now. So if YouTube was around back then, maybe I would have typed in the search coaching points like movement off the ball and tried to get coaching where I didn't have a real life coach, tried to learn that way. So maybe those kids who don't have so much opportunity in this generation, they've got more access to information through social media that didn't exist before.
19:40 Speaker 03 I definitely would agree with that. I think that's, things have advanced so fu- uh quickly since YouTube came about, like if you take football freestyle for instance, um kids are seeing what you do, um cause it's it's ac- it's accessible to them and they're learning them skills at half your age.
19:56 Speaker 02 Right.
19:56 Speaker 03 Because they can see they're physically possible, there's tutorials on them. Um so things have evolved so much more vastly since YouTube came about and uh it's a good point.
20:07 Lewis Howes? What's the vision for you guys moving forward? You've been doing this for four years. You've got the largest channel on soccer in the world on YouTube. And you know, what do you want for the next four years?
20:16 Speaker 02 Great question. Do you wanna take this one or should I take it all together?
20:20 Speaker 03 I think that we we wanna continue to to grow um the F2 brand. We call it a brand because it's, we we wanna um the reason why we came together in the first place was we had individual profiles and then we thought to ourselves we want F2 to be a standalone brand, not to be known as individual people and performers. So we created the F2. And after we can't go on doing tricks anymore, be on the pitch, we want that brand to live on. So I think that we will go and find the next F2 and bring younger guys through and show them, give them a chance. We've already started doing it now where we we certify young up and coming YouTube channels um that are really good to give them
21:01 Speaker 03 basically it's so hard to break through now for for YouTube channels because there's so many out there.
21:06 Lewis Howes? So much.
21:06 Speaker 03 People realise that you can earn money from it, therefore they, and it's it's it's a fun, easy, enjoyable life. So there's so many people doing it now, it's hard for the good ones to break through. Um.
21:17 Lewis Howes? So you're kind of punishing and.
21:18 Speaker 03 Yeah. But without help, yeah, so we've got such a big reach that if we show these people to the world.
21:25 Lewis Howes? Mm hmm.
21:25 Speaker 03 Um, it's so much easier for them to grow.
21:27 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
21:28 Speaker 03 So after the F two, as in Billy and Jeremy had done, I think definitely a part of bringing up young talent and managing and nurturing them and showing them to the world is what we do.
21:39 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
21:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, I fully agree with that.
21:41 Lewis Howes? Why do you guys think soccer still hasn't gotten the popularity in the US like it is the rest of the world?
21:46 Speaker 03 What a great question.
21:47 Lewis Howes? After, you know, all the, every World Cup, I feel like when the US is like rallying and getting better and better, the country comes together, but then it kind of like dies off, you know what I mean?
21:58 Speaker 02 It's a great question. I'm not sure. Just thinking aloud, we went to our first NFL game.
22:07 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
22:08 Speaker 02 Since we've been over here.
22:09 Speaker 03 Super Bowl.
22:10 Speaker 02 Super Bowl.
22:11 Lewis Howes? I was there for the weekend, yeah.
22:12 Speaker 03 Wow.
22:13 Speaker 02 Happened to be the greatest NFL game in the history of the NFL.
22:15 Speaker 03 It was that first game we ever went to.
22:17 Lewis Howes? Wow.
22:17 Speaker 02 That was our first. So can we ever go to another game? Has it really?
22:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
22:22 Speaker 02 Is it all downhill from here? Probably.
22:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:25 Speaker 02 But the point I'm making, we went to the, our first NFL game, we went to our first NBA game as well, loved it. Watched the Clippers play, the whole experience is like an event, it's, you know, they don't, they're considering the audience at all times, if the players go off the pitch, something comes on to.
22:40 Speaker 03 Spectacle, yeah.
22:40 Lewis Howes? Entertainment.
22:41 Speaker 02 Entertainment, and it's brilliant. And I feel like the state has got certain sports in place, baseball, NFL, hockey, NBA, which are kind of like already solidified as part of the American people's tradition. So for soccer to come and push them to the side and overtake, it's gonna be tough. I don't know, I don't know if it will happen. I, I know soccer's growing, but to outgrow the already established sports, which are, which are all amazing in their own right.
23:14 Speaker 03 I don't know, I'm not sure.
23:15 Lewis Howes? Yeah, I think it's tough to, like you said, there's so much, it's much more fast paced like basketball and the entertainment in between stuff where soccer is like. Ninety minutes, right? And it's just kind of like, same thing happening the whole time, couple of moments of excitement, but it's like.
23:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's what I noticed. So going to the um, the Super Bowl and watching the NBA game. Um, there was something happening every couple of minutes, whether it be a tackle and uh, and you make a tackle in in in NFL. People are celebrating like a goal's gone in, whereas you watch a, you watch a soccer match ninety minutes, you might see one, two, three moments where it's exciting. As in goals going in.
23:50 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
23:50 Speaker 03 So.
23:53 Lewis Howes? But you gotta have appreciation for the game, right?
23:55 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, yeah. If if you love soccer, you can appreciate like touches and movements, but. It's hard to convert someone that's used to seeing like goal, goal, goal or entertainment really quickly to. To understanding the beauty of football, soccer.
24:09 Lewis Howes? You know, I was on, I used to play soccer, football before uh, I started playing American football when I was fifteen. And I played soccer my whole life growing up when I was five until fifteen. And I was on, you know, the youth select teams in Ohio and stuff like that and did the traveling teams. For some reason, it was just like, man, the middle of the summer, the heat, like, just constantly running.
24:33 Lewis Howes? It's like seven miles a day, it seems like you're just running, running, running. And so I played, I played like every position, but I liked being in goal. Cause I just kind of like chill there and make plays.
24:43 Speaker 03 Plus, you're a giant.
24:46 Speaker 03 That's an interesting point, though, about like the growth of soccer in the US. Um, in the UK, it's the perfect weather conditions to play, you know? So that could have a factory.
24:55 Lewis Howes? True, cause it's cooler, right?
24:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's cooler. It's raining, it's perfect weather. Also, it's great for us that soccer's not so.
25:04 Speaker 03 We are, basically, we are the best soccer trick shot guys in the world. That's one of the ways we've built ourselves up. So.
25:14 Speaker 02 You do a trick shot with a foot, a soccer ball or football in the UK and people think, wow, that's incredible. You do it in the States and people are like, oh my god, did you see what they just did? They didn't throw it, they kicked it and it went in the target.
25:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:31 Lewis Howes? Cause you guys do a lot of trick shots too, right?
25:33 Speaker 02 We do.
25:33 Lewis Howes? Have you done stuff with, uh, who are they, legendary shots? Have you done stuff with them?
25:37 Speaker 02 We haven't collaborated with them yet.
25:39 Lewis Howes? You know who they are though?
25:40 Speaker 03 We meant that they'd do perfect. That was meant to be last week.
25:42 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:43 Lewis Howes? Oh, yeah.
25:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
25:44 Lewis Howes? And all those accounts, like, uh, Bodhi, what is his name? Bodhi Smith? Is that his name? Oh, he's a, Brody Smith, right?
25:50 Speaker 03 Yeah, we've done him.
25:51 Lewis Howes? You have done him?
25:52 Speaker 02 Brody's glass.
25:53 Lewis Howes? See, I wanna, I wanna do all, I'm a big ultimate frisbee guy.
25:56 Speaker 03 Oh, really?
25:57 Speaker 02 Really?
25:57 Speaker 03 He's incredible, by the way.
25:58 Lewis Howes? I love ultimate frisbee.
26:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:00 Lewis Howes? I love disc golf. I don't know if you've heard of disc golf?
26:03 Speaker 03 No.
26:04 Lewis Howes? It's like golf with frisbees.
26:06 Speaker 02 Okay.
26:06 Lewis Howes? With those buckets and you like throw it into the.
26:08 Speaker 02 Nice.
26:08 Lewis Howes? It goes like hundreds of yards and you try to make it in. So I love any of this stuff. It's so, my god, I would love to do some of this stuff someday, just like trick shots. This is the most fun, like basketball.
26:19 Speaker 02 He's your man. He sets up the collab.
26:21 Lewis Howes? It's part of the sports, right?
26:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
26:22 Lewis Howes? Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna do a collab with those guys.
26:25 Speaker 02 Mate, let's do one, all three of us. Let's do round two with Brody. We did a battle with Brody before. It went down so well. Yeah, he was doing frisbee shots. We had to match it with a football.
26:34 Lewis Howes? I'll throw a football. Hit the frisbee. You'll kick a ball and hit the frisbee and score or something.
26:40 Speaker 03 That's a viral right there.
26:41 Speaker 02 You're in.
26:41 Lewis Howes? Let's do it.
26:42 Speaker 02 You're in.
26:43 Lewis Howes? Let's do it. Um, what's the craziest trick shot you guys have done where you're like, I can't believe we pulled that off?
26:48 Speaker 02 Wow, what a question.
26:50 Lewis Howes? Cause you do stuff, you do stuff where there's like bottles on top of the crossbars? Did I see one of the videos like that?
26:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
26:55 Lewis Howes? Hit something else.
26:57 Speaker 02 We've done a lot.
26:57 Speaker 03 I would say the TV show we done in the UK, um, where we hit the ball off a rooftop in London into a basketball hoop.
27:05 Lewis Howes? No way.
27:06 Speaker 03 That was like.
27:07 Lewis Howes? You kick it off a rooftop into a basketball hoop?
27:09 Speaker 03 On the volley. It's, it's really hard to do.
27:11 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
27:11 Lewis Howes? In the air, you mean?
27:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, like throw it up volley, straight into the basketball hoop.
27:15 Lewis Howes? How many tries did that take?
27:17 Speaker 02 Oh, how many tries did that one take? There's a bit of wind on the day, so you kinda had to account for it to go.
27:22 Speaker 03 Was it one or two? But no, the harder trick shots, you know, it's numbers game. You put it in that area and you hope that one drops. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
27:34 Lewis Howes? Was there ever a trick shot video that you were gonna attempt? And you were like, God, we've just been here for four hours, the sun's going down.
27:40 Speaker 02 Occasionally, occasionally you try. It's like that, that, that girl at high school that you used to like. And you thought, if I'm persistent, I'm gonna get someone with this. And then something, you just think, nah, you know.
27:50 Lewis Howes? It's like that time at Britain's Got Talent where I got second place.
27:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, but it's, it's rare. Normally, we know our, our abilities and we know our limits. So if we're trying a shot, we fully believe, kind of know that we can do it.
28:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, it always brings you back to the girl in high school. I don't think you can let it go.
28:15 Lewis Howes? Yeah, right?
28:15 Speaker 03 You can't let it go.
28:17 Lewis Howes? Mate. Is she married with two kids?
28:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
28:19 Speaker 02 Let me text her now.
28:22 Speaker 02 Let me dip back in.
28:24 Lewis Howes? What's, um, what's been the greatest moment for you guys with, um, people you've met? Who you've inspired? What is the thing that they've, someone said to you that's shaped their life because of what you're doing? Or is there a moment you can remember about this?
28:37 Speaker 03 Oh, there's many examples. Um, it's just overwhelming. Um. One thing that stands out for me was we, we were working in Brighton.
28:47 Lewis Howes? I've been to Brighton, yeah, the Rock Beach.
28:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:50 Lewis Howes? The big Indian temple or whatever. It seems nice.
28:53 Speaker 03 It'd be fine, but it's nice, yeah.
28:56 Lewis Howes? I'm loving the grass there.
28:57 Speaker 02 Did you?
28:57 Lewis Howes? Yeah, of course.
28:58 Speaker 02 A bit of grounding.
29:00 Lewis Howes? Get away from the city.
29:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:02 Lewis Howes? Sunset, yeah, anyways.
29:03 Speaker 03 So we were, we were filming there and we went back to our hotel afterwards and we just got out of the taxi. And, um, there was a family walking up the street. They must have been on holiday there. And the young boy saw us and like, I looked at him and gave him a nod and then. He started walking towards us with his family and by the time he got to us, he was literally in floods of tears. Where he couldn't believe that he had met us. Um, so we like signed a football for him and I I got a rascal tracksuit sent through to him. And just to see the fact of what we meant to that that child um was like. It was truly incredible that we could mean that much to somebody for them to physically cry of of emotion. And that is that for me, just put it into perspective of how.
29:47 Speaker 03 How much we've achieved and how far we've gone. It's just incredible. Hopefully he was crying happiness, not.
29:55 Lewis Howes? Isn't it fun though when we when we pursue our dreams with such passion and play and joy? What we can inspire in other people?
30:02 Speaker 02 A hundred percent.
30:03 Lewis Howes? Think, you know, some people may think like, oh, these are just a couple like YouTube guys who just like kick a football around, but really. You do it with such passion and fun and you show people what's possible for their lives. And for me, that's what gets me excited. That's why I do what I do with passion because. I want other people to see, we were talking about this beforehand, like what is possible for themselves? Maybe they're going through some adversity and you give them some comedic relief or inspiration or something. And then when they meet you, they're like, thank you so much for giving me those moments of courage, inspiration, hope, whatever.
30:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, I totally agree with you. Um, for me, my answer to that question would be. We did a book signing, um.
30:41 Lewis Howes? What's your book called again?
30:43 Speaker 02 Uh, it's called F two World of Football, Play Like a Pro. And it's just like, it's got. Juicy stories of when we've met pro players and things that people wouldn't expect. It's got. Um, tutorial section and it's got our story, our journey of where we started from and how we got to where we are. Cause people are curious.
31:02 Speaker 03 And it's important, really. It's really important.
31:04 Speaker 02 Yeah. Um, and the underlying theme of the book is exactly what you just said, the positive, the positivity of. If you are going through adversity, to stick with it, it's encour- it's like encouragement that. You can make a success of yourself. Don't give up. Work hard. Believe in yourself. That's like the ethos of the book. Um. And we had a book signing in the biggest shopping centre in the UK. And it, we smashed the record. It was the biggest book signing of two thousand and sixteen.
31:38 Lewis Howes? No way.
31:38 Speaker 02 The queue was like five hours long.
31:41 Lewis Howes? Shut up.
31:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was incredible.
31:43 Speaker 02 We felt a bit bad for the fans that had to wait for that long, but the reason why they had to wait that long is because each kid that came through, we spent like a minute with them to make it a personal experience for them. But when we were doing the book signing, one parent came to us and he watched us with his kids. We took a minute with his kids, asked him his name, what team he plays for, what position, made him feel like on top of the world. And then the parent came over and said, you guys, I just wanna say, you are force for good.
32:12 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
32:13 Speaker 02 And for us, like, that really stands out because we do try as hard as we can to be positive, good role models. We don't feel like there's enough soccer players that take on that responsibility. And the kids do look up to us, don't they, as, the same as they look up to the top footballers and we feel the responsibility and obligation to be a positive role model to the kids. And when that parent said that to us.
32:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:40 Speaker 02 It was like affirmation, you guys are doing alright.
32:43 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
32:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
32:44 Lewis Howes? That's awesome, guys. That's awesome. Well, I wanna finish with a few final questions. Where can people connect with you online? Where's the best place? Do you like them to go to Instagram, YouTube? Is it all the same handle?
32:55 Speaker 03 I would say YouTube would probably be the best, um, because you can see all our content there and we're the F2 Freestylers on YouTube. Um, we have different handles for different social medias, it can be complicated, but YouTube's the best one.
33:08 Speaker 02 YouTube's the best one and it's F2 Freestylers.
33:11 Lewis Howes? And it's the same on Instagram or no? F2 Freestylers?
33:13 Speaker 03 The F2.
33:13 Lewis Howes? The F2.
33:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:16 Speaker 03 We should have thought about that when we started out.
33:18 Lewis Howes? It's all good.
33:19 Speaker 02 That's true.
33:20 Lewis Howes? And you guys have personal accounts too that you hang out on or mostly?
33:23 Speaker 02 No, not really. Just sort of like friends and family.
33:26 Lewis Howes? Yeah, yeah.
33:26 Speaker 02 That's, that's another interesting thing. When we were both successful individually, we had to almost die to ourselves to bring everything into the brand.
33:34 Lewis Howes? You had to die, is that what you said?
33:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, kind of. Like, stop posting on our personal social media.
33:39 Lewis Howes? All in now.
33:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:41 Lewis Howes? Go all in.
33:42 Speaker 03 Because me and Jeremy were both like performers. We didn't want people to think, oh, I favor this person, I favor that. They had to realize the F two was one. We're not like, we don't battle against each other. We both have strengths that come together and create the F two. So, um, yeah. We did have to let let go of our own um egos.
34:04 Lewis Howes? But well, look what you created by letting go.
34:06 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, for sure.
34:07 Lewis Howes? And coming together, you create something bigger than either of you could have ever done alone.
34:10 Speaker 03 Uh, it's, yeah, for sure.
34:12 Lewis Howes? A thousand times bigger, probably, right?
34:14 Speaker 02 That's true, that's true. And then from the F two brand, we created another brand, which started as the baby brand, but has now outgrown even the F two.
34:23 Lewis Howes? What's that?
34:24 Speaker 02 And that is Rascal Clothing. That's our clothing range.
34:27 Lewis Howes? Your clothing line is.
34:28 Speaker 02 It's bigger.
34:29 Lewis Howes? Bigger than F two.
34:31 Speaker 02 It not in terms of social media, but in terms of a business.
34:35 Lewis Howes? In terms of revenue and sales, you're making more the clothing line than on the YouTube stuff.
34:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
34:40 Speaker 03 Which is crazy.
34:41 Lewis Howes? And what did you guys launch that?
34:43 Speaker 03 So we launched it three years ago. Um, basically, when Jeremy was performing, when we first started the F two. Jeremy would wear, he got these pants tapered at the bottom like dancers do. So you have the looseness above the knee in the in the quad area. And then you don't have anything competing you around the ankle area. So you've got the movement still. And um, we love them and we like, we we need to make tracks like this for when we're performing. So we did. Yeah, we love, where'd you get them from? Where'd you get them from? And then um, we we we said, we've got to make a brand out of this. Do we call it the F two? If we call it the F two and the F two starts to go downhill or our brand dies, does the clothing brand die?
35:25 Speaker 03 We want it to be a standalone brand in its own right. So we come up with a name, Rascal, on the plane back from a job from Dubai.
35:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:33 Speaker 03 Um.
35:34 Speaker 02 That's a hard part of a business, by the way, coming up with a name.
35:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:37 Speaker 02 Took us a few days and we were just having a call. What about just saying words, random words? And then Bill said, Rascal, and then I was like. That's it.
35:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:45 Speaker 02 You got it.
35:45 Speaker 03 So the moment.
35:46 Speaker 02 You just kept saying rascal.
35:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, it works, it works.
35:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:49 Speaker 03 So the moment we got off the plane, um, I remember I filled this, the che- the checks for rascal and there was a rascalclothing.co.uk.
35:56 Speaker 02 Hmm.
35:56 Speaker 03 There wasn't a rascalclothing.com, there wasn't a registered trademark for rascal clothing, there wasn't, um.
36:03 Speaker 02 Wow.
36:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, so basically I'd unregistered everything.
36:06 Speaker 02 Amazing.
36:06 Speaker 03 Um, I waited for rascalclothing.co.uk, it was a dying brand and eventually they let the website run out.
36:12 Speaker 02 Sure.
36:13 Speaker 03 It wasn't selling anything and, um, yeah, we, we flew, I flew over to Turkey, um, you know, nothing about clothing companies, I researched, that's the best cotton manufacturer. Uh, flew over there with the tracksuits, went to five different factories and I said, I'm not leaving until you supply me samples.
36:28 Speaker 02 Wow.
36:28 Speaker 03 And I'm ready to invest by the time I leave here in the best sample.
36:32 Speaker 02 Wow.
36:33 Speaker 03 And literally placed our first order, which was forty thousand pound. And, um, the first day of launching, we made that back within hours.
36:39 Speaker 02 Unbelievable.
36:40 Speaker 03 Like that on the very first day, in fact, we sold out within the first week of our first order. Then we had to wait six weeks for the next batch to come in. It's the worst because we could have trebled that investment. Uh, but this is a learning curve and, um.
36:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:53 Speaker 03 It's incredible. Now we're in forty stores in the UK, um, the first year we sold thirty eight thousand items of clothing. It's like really good go- really good going.
37:03 Speaker 02 Thank you. Congrats.
37:04 Speaker 03 For just us two starting it up on our own to be able to grow like that. Now we have three members of, four members of staff now, full time.
37:10 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:10 Speaker 03 It's an incredible achievement.
37:11 Speaker 02 And from a business point of view, we believe one of the main reasons why rascal has been so successful, so successful is that we've built up a massive following on social media, which nearly every business wants to because it only helps business. But we could have just brought out T-shirts with F2 logo on it or pictures of our face with no USP and they would have still sold.
37:37 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:37 Speaker 02 But we thought, no, we're going to come up with a USP, which is the unique fit and design of every item in our range. Add that USP to the, the, um, humongous following and that comes back to the devastating combination.
37:58 Speaker 03 The funny thing is with um with Rascal is I really see that as our baby. I mean with the F2, obviously that's our baby and that's our main love, but the thing is that's our talent. So you can kind of see that if you put your mind to it, what I can see and you can see that if we put our mind to it, we can achieve that because you can do it with your own talent. But with a clothing company that you have no idea about, it's kind of like you have to research it. So to make a success out of something that you haven't got a talent in is like it really means a lot to us.
38:30 Lewis Howes? Yeah, it's amazing.
38:32 Speaker 02 And with both F2 and Rascal, we saw a niche, we saw something that there was demand for, that no one had thought of yet, and we just went for it. And that can go across the board, any business idea, try and look for a demand, a niche, a gap in the market that needs to be filled, and think of it before anyone else does because ideas and execution of ideas makes millions. So that's that's it really. That's our advice on on the business side.
39:01 Lewis Howes? Love it, love it. And where can we get the uh check out the brand? Rascalclothing.com is that where it's at?
39:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's right, yeah.
39:07 Lewis Howes? Awesome. Yeah.
39:09 Speaker 03 Excellent.
39:09 Speaker 02 Thank you.
39:10 Speaker 03 We're there.
39:13 Lewis Howes? Okay, last couple of questions. Um this is you'll both answer this one. This is called the three truths and everyone answers this at the end. So this is the last day for you on earth many years from now and you get to share three final thoughts to the world.
39:28 Speaker 03 Wow.
39:28 Lewis Howes? You've done so many pieces of content, videos, you've spoken everywhere you want to speak, you've written books, but you only get to say three final things, three lessons or the truths that you would share with the world. Um and this is all they can remember you by. What would those three truths be? And we'll start with you, Billy.
39:48 Speaker 03 Wow.
39:49 Speaker 02 That might just be the best question I've ever had.
39:51 Speaker 03 Can you start with yours?
39:54 Lewis Howes? Either one.
39:54 Speaker 02 All right, three truths.
39:56 Lewis Howes? He's got to redeem himself from driving the ball, so.
39:58 Speaker 02 Okay. The first one I'd say is live your life in a way that when you're eighty years old and you look back, you won't regret.
40:13 Speaker 02 You won't have regrets because they did a survey. And there was a hundred elderly people on their deathbeds and they asked them, what's your biggest regret in life? And every single one of them gave different answers, but they were also the same answer. And it wasn't something that they did in their life, it was something that they didn't do. So that would be my first one.
40:36 Speaker 02 Second one would be.
40:38 Speaker 03 I'll do the second one.
40:39 Speaker 02 Okay.
40:40 Speaker 03 So we'll balance it so you can think about the second one.
40:42 Speaker 02 Okay.
40:42 Speaker 03 This is good. So this is the first one for you? Yeah, this is the first one for me. I would say, um, I don't know, nobody knows how life works, right? But what I've discovered and what I feel is that if you are a good person and you do good things, you create your own luck. Um, so what I would say is, um, be the best person you can be. The nicer you can be and the more you can offer the world, the more the world will offer you. Um, that's my first one. And that's true, that's really what I feel. That's great. Okay, number two.
41:15 Speaker 02 Number two, I would say.
41:19 Speaker 02 Be aware of the power of helping others. And what I mean by that is, even if you help others for selfish purposes, it's only good outcomes. So if you help someone in need, you've helped them. That's like you've helped someone and that's amazing for them. But the feeling that you get from helping someone personally, that's amazing for you too. So everyone benefits. So why wouldn't you constantly be helping everyone in every situation that you can? That's my, that would be my second one.
41:55 Speaker 03 Hmm. It's a good one. Okay. Nice. Um, my second one, um, would be.
42:02 Speaker 03 To take people's advice, but don't let them steer your careers, um even if they're um. They mean so much to you, these people are in your life, whether it's your parents or your siblings or. Um, family or close friends, um ultimately, if you know you can achieve something, go out there and do that.
42:22 Speaker 02 Um.
42:22 Speaker 03 Um, it's it's it's up to your mind and yourself to do it. Don't let other people steer your careers, um. It's happened to me before with my family when I wanted to go into the freestyling and um. They sometimes, people sometimes think they've got your best interests at heart, but really they're just trying to protect you. But if you want to go out there and succeed, you have to do something that no one else does, right? Not the norm. You have to go that extra mile. Some people can't see that. So, um, don't let other people um steer your careers just because they think it's right. If you think you can go out there and get something.
42:57 Speaker 02 Um.
42:57 Speaker 03 You can go out there and get something.
42:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, I like it. Okay, and number three. Number three, I would say, um. Ask yourself questions like this all the time. For example, so many people go through life and they they never stop to ask themselves big, big, deep and meaningful questions like what you're. Probably the best on the planet at. For example, what is my biggest passion in life? What gives me the most uh satisfaction? And from that, you can work from that. Like, once you realize your biggest passion in life, you can see if you can put together. A strategy and an action plan of how you can even make a career of that, or if it's not gonna be lucrative and it might have to be a hobby.
43:42 Speaker 02 And you fund your greatest passion by doing something that isn't your greatest passion, but it facilitates you doing. Your greatest passion. What I'm trying to say is, whatever your greatest passion is, do not go through your life without doing it either as a career or a hobby. That's it. Um, that was good.
44:04 Speaker 02 My last one would be, um.
44:07 Speaker 03 And this is really hard to do and I don't think anyone uh it's it's so hard to do but um. Try and remember how lucky you already are.
44:16 Lewis Howes? Hmm.
44:16 Speaker 03 Okay, people would think, people always want that next step up in life, that society, right, the next. The next, whether it's bigger income or a nicer shirt or a the new iPhone. Strip that back, you don't realize how lucky you already are and and uh an example that I can give for that is um. My father passed away in November. Um, I was always striving for the the next thing in in my life and I realized, hang on a minute, strip that back, give what I've got. You have to work backwards and appreciate what you've got. First and foremost, that's the most important thing.
44:50 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
44:51 Speaker 03 Um, and whoever you are, if you look. Pe- people sometimes think they've got it hard, um, everyone thinks they can they can have better, but. Really, we're we're all lucky in some way, shape or form, and you have to kind of remember that and take that with you.
45:05 Lewis Howes? Yeah, we made it.
45:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:07 Lewis Howes? We're here.
45:08 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah, exactly, and and and it's so true, people say, no matter what's going on in your life is always worse, it's happening. But that is so true and and you can always think of something that you're you're blessed with. If you if you want to, if you have that mindset.
45:24 Lewis Howes? Right.
45:24 Speaker 03 And I realize that more now than ever about family and and what life means um through experiencing. Something bad in my life, I realize that now more than ever.
45:33 Lewis Howes? Yeah. Well, Jeremy and Billy, I appreciate you guys coming on and I want to acknowledge you both for. Being a couple of kids from the UK who's who's followed your dreams and stuck to it and done things that most people aren't willing to do. Cause it's scary to do, to go out and do something no one's really ever gonna do. You guys have led the way, you've inspired so many other kids to chase their dream in soccer and in other areas of their life. And you're making a business out of it. So I want to acknowledge you both for being incredible human beings and hopefully next time I'm in London, we'll we'll connect and do some trick shots or something together and you'll. Teach me something new.
46:09 Speaker 03 For sure. Thank you for having us, it's been a pleasure, man.
46:11 Lewis Howes? One final question for both of you.
46:13 Speaker 03 Okay, here we go. Number one of his questions.
46:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
46:17 Speaker 03 He has good questions.
46:18 Lewis Howes? Is what's the definition of greatness for both of you?
46:21 Speaker 03 Oh, wow. You are definitely the best question asker in the world. What is the definition of greatness? For for us.
46:31 Lewis Howes? For you.
46:33 Speaker 02 The definition of greatness.
46:34 Lewis Howes? Shall we have Billy go first since you went first last time?
46:36 Speaker 02 Probably, yeah.
46:36 Speaker 03 Mine is just one word, happiness.
46:39 Lewis Howes? Okay.
46:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, I like that answer. Happiness for yourself or others, just, yeah. Uh, yeah. I think so. And it's good that what we do does make people happy. It's, it's, it's in the entertainment realm, but why do we have, whether it's soccer, NBA, NFL, hockey, baseball? Why has humankind created these sports? It's because entertainment makes us happy.
47:07 Lewis Howes? Yeah.
47:08 Speaker 02 So that's, that's what we're in the business of. As well as other things, but yeah. Good answer. I can't, that's the right answer.
47:18 Lewis Howes? Awesome guys, I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much.
47:20 Speaker 02 Thank you.
47:20 Speaker 03 Thank you so much.
47:21 Speaker 02 Thank you.
47:23 Lewis Howes? There you have it, greats. I hope you enjoyed this one. I hope you gained some valuable information. I always love connecting again with powerful athletes who turn into entrepreneurs and who figure things out. Again, both these guys never made it professionally, but they were able to make an amazing business and build a massive audience, even though they weren't professionals. They used their craft and their, their talent to create another value add in the world and they built a massive audience in the process. So by being creative, they've created some amazing results in their life. If you enjoyed this one, make sure to share it out. LewisHowes.com/472. Make sure to follow the F2 Freestylers over on Instagram and on social media.
48:08 Lewis Howes? Check out their YouTube videos. They're addictive. I watch them over and over because it's amazing what they can do. And leave us a review. iTunes.com/greatness for your chance to be the review of the week. I love you guys very much. You've got one life. You've got many dreams, but it's your responsibility to make these dreams come true. Don't let another day slip away from taking action, from sharing love in the world and from being great. It's all about the journey. Enjoy today, make the most of it, and you know it's Time it is. It's time to go out there and do something great.
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