We Have to Care About the Little Guy | A Stoic Reset for Right Now

Forget party, forget class, forget any perceived differences: We must speak loudly and with one voice against those who intimidate, those who violate, those who abuse and discriminate. If we’re not going to fight for the little guy, for the other, and do what we can for them, who will? 📚 Books Mentioned: Right Thing, Right Now by Ryan Holiday https://store.dailystoic.com/products/right-thing-right-nowTaylor Branch Trilogy https://www.thepaintedporch.com/Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/philosophy14?_pos=1&_sid=0dc8b2ea1&_ss=rMeditations by Marcus Aurelius (Gregory Hays Translation) https://store.dailystoic.com/pages/meditationsThoughts of a Philosophical Fighter Pilot by James Stockdale https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/thoughts-of-a-philosophical-fighter-pilot-volume-431-hoover-institution-press-publication?_pos=3&_sid=988d41b7f&_ss=rThe Daily Stoic Journal: 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on The Art of Living https://store.dailystoic.com/products/the-daily-stoic-journal-signed-edition 👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing toThe Daily Stoic Premium https://dailystoic.supercast.com/ - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content:https://dailystoic.supercast.com/ 🎥 Watch the video episodes onThe Daily Stoic YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos:https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos 🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast onInstagram https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast/?hl=en:https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast ✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email athttps://dailystoic.com/dailyemail 🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store:https://store.dailystoic.com/ 📱 Follow us: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dailystoic/,Twitter https://twitter.com/dailystoic,YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic,TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@daily_stoic?lang=en, andFacebook https://www.facebook.com/dailystoic See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues: courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

• 0:14Ryan Holiday?

  We have to care about the little guy. Cato was powerful. Cato was a traditionalist. Cato was conservative. In many ways, he was an elitist. But the most important thing about him is that from an early age, he hated bullies. As we talk about in Lives of the Stoics, at a birthday party for a friend, a group of boys were playing a Roman version of the game Cops and Robbers. One of the younger boys was caught and shut into a dark chamber by one of the older boys. Scared, the child called for Cato, who threw aside the boy blocking the door and took the scared child home to his parents. As a teenager, Cato was invited with his tutor to the house of Sulla,

• 0:57Ryan Holiday?

  who then ruled Rome as a cruel dictator. As the tutor explained to Cato, "Everyone feared Sulla." And he watched as Cato's entire countenance changed. "Why, then, don't you give me a sword?" Cato said outraged, "so that I could free my country from slavery." And as he got older, maybe that's why Cato hated the corruption in Rome's provinces, because it victimized the inhabitants who deserved better. Cato and many of the Stoics had a North Star that pointed them into opposition to anyone who tried to intimidate them or take away their rights. This is the Stoic virtue of justice. They hated those who abused power

• 1:41Ryan Holiday?

  and wielded it against the weak. In fact, the expression "sic semper tyrannis," thus "always to tyrants," traces all the way back to Scipio Emilianus, one of the great Stoic generals before the turn of the millennium. George Washington modeled himself on Cato his entire life. But his view on justice, on the goal of good government, on a just world, was captured in a line that he borrowed from the scriptures. "Everyone shall sit in safety of his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid." His vision of America gave bigotry no sanction, he said, and persecution no assistance.

• 2:25Ryan Holiday?

  Here, Washington is talking about tolerance. He's talking about freedom and love and hope. He was talking about sticking up for the little guy. Now, Washington and the founders, nor the Stoics, were perfect at this. Slavery being the foremost of the examples. They fell short, but they set down a powerful ideal for us to aspire to today. As Marcus Aurelius writes, "It was from the Stoics, Thrasse, Helvidius, Cato, and Brutus that he learned the importance of a society of equal laws governed by equality of status and speech, and of rulers who respect the liberty of their subjects above all else." Tyrants, bullies, and jerks are the enemies of justice.

• 3:11Ryan Holiday?

  They cannot be accepted. They cannot be accommodated. Whether it's an online mob or an economic system that exploits the impoverished, the belittling boss, or the masked government thugs, tyranny is tyranny, and it puts us all at risk. Put aside party, put aside everything. We must speak loudly and with one voice against those who intimidate, those who violate, those who abuse and discriminate. We must not turn away when the meek and the vulnerable are being mistreated or scapegoated. We must stand up to hate and violence, aggression and cruelty. Because if we are not willing to fight for the little guy, for the other,

• 3:54Ryan Holiday?

  and to do what we can for them, who will? And if we allow them to be hurt, or exploited, or left to suffer, what does that say about us?

• 4:17Ryan Holiday?

  We should always expect disruption and change and surprise. So, the question then, for us as Stoics, as citizens, as human beings, is not how do we avoid these challenges, but how do we prepare for them? Right? How do we set ourselves up not to be broken and destroyed and disrupted? And thinking about how to future-proof myself. What the Stoics can teach us about how to prepare, not with panic and paranoia or some sort of escape plan, but with some... Practical, timeless ideas that the Stoics,

• 4:58Ryan Holiday?

  by the way, tested in crises and circumstances, both very different and very much the same as ours. And how these strategies can help us with our turbulent times, just as they have helped people in turbulent times throughout history. For starters, you know what I'm doing? I'm focusing on what I can control. Epictetus, who was a slave in the Roman Empire, who experienced exile and torture and about every other form of difficulty you can imagine. He said that our chief task in life is to separate things into two categories. What's up to us and what isn't up to us? He said, we have to get clarity on what's up to us and what isn't up to us.

• 5:41Ryan Holiday?

  And so like a way to think about this, like what Putin does, inflation, tariffs, my mother's health, weather, like, none of that is up to me. But you know what is up to me? Like my attitude, my emotions, my wants, my desires, my, my focus, my response to all those things, what those other people do and say, the consequences of what they do and say, how I respond to that, that is up to me. Who I am is up to me. So that's what I'm focusing on. And that's what the Stoics want us to focus on. One of the things I'm doing is I'm, I'm reading old books and I'm reading old books instead of watching the news. As I was saying, like, if you want to understand

• 6:24Ryan Holiday?

  current events, often the best way to do that is not via breaking news. It's to find a, a book about a similar event in the past. Like read history, read psychology, read biographies, go for information that has a long half-life, that's not going to be contradicted in the next week by, by the next scientific breakthrough, by the next bit of investigative reporting. That's something I think the Stoics are really good at, right? The Stoics have endured for 2,000 years. So the chances that they're going to become irrelevant in 2026, suddenly disproven, is very unlikely.

• 7:03Ryan Holiday?

  The chances that the insights that Epictetus uncovered about the human condition in torture, or that Marcus Aurelius discovered about power and fame and success, it's very unlikely that by 2028, none of that is going to hold up. And what this means is there are lots of books, lots of ideas, lots of history that can help us with what lies ahead, because it'll rhyme with what lies behind. And this is something Churchill talked about as wars breaking out into Europe. He was working on this big epic history that he was doing. And he said, it's helpful sometimes to put a couple thousand years between you and the present moment. So it gives us perspective, it gives us clarity, and it also gives us wisdom

• 7:47Ryan Holiday?

  about this moment. So whether we're navigating personal trials, or upheavals, or moments of great success and abundance, like, books are one of the most reliable tools that we have to help us prepare for that, help us handle that. Again, I remember I interviewed Morgan Housel here when we were doing the Daily Stoic podcast, and he said something like, he thinks back 10 years ago, he can't really remember any articles, any news reports he heard from that time, but he can remember a lot of books that he read from that period. Those books had ideas that helped him over that 10-year period. And I think that's true for the books that you can read now. And

• 8:26Ryan Holiday?

  that's why I'm reading more books than I am consuming the news. Read Viktor Frankl, read Taylor Branch's series on Martin Luther King, read the Stoics, read fiction, read great epic novels, reread The Odyssey, read The Iliad, read Stockdale's Thoughts of a Philosophical Fighter Pilot. I've been reading that recently. One thing I'm trying to remind myself of is what my job is. Because things aren't going to go the way that I want them to go. There's going to be uncertainty and upheaval and unfairness, as we were saying. But when the dust settles, like, after a crisis, after a setback, in the middle of disappointment, as you're reacting to what's happening, as you're

• 9:08Ryan Holiday?

  speculating and wondering, you're going to be thinking like, what happens next? Or what if it gets worse? While these are important questions, I think for the most part, it doesn't change what's expected of you. One of the things Marx really says is, you know, how does this stop you? Says like, how does anything stop you from acting with courage and justice and discipline and wisdom? His point was that was your job. He said, your job is to be a good person. Like, no matter what happens, good or bad, or fair or unfair, whether there's order or disorder, our job is the same. It doesn't matter who's president. It doesn't matter if they're being a good president or a bad president. It doesn't matter if the economy is good or bad. It doesn't matter if unemployment is high or low. It doesn't

• 9:53Ryan Holiday?

  matter if you are employed or unemployed. Your most important job is still your job. Like, your obligation is still your obligation. And Marx really said that that job, he says, what anyone says or does, I'm bound to the good. He said, I'm like an emerald, right? My job is to show my true colors, to be an emerald. And he was saying that that's what our job is. But at the most basic level, though, right? Like, we do have certain obligations in our professions. Maybe we swore an oath. Maybe there's a code of conduct. Maybe there's a set of standards, like if you're a journalist, or a doctor, or a lawyer. And we have to

• 10:34Ryan Holiday?

  understand that, again, what anyone says or does, whether this behavior is celebrated or punished, criticized or appreciated, our job is to do our job. There's a Stoic named Helvidius, and the Emperor Vespasian sort of warns him to stop speaking out. And that if he didn't, he said he'd be removed from the Senate. And Helvidius looks at him and he says, look, it might be in your power to allow me to be a member of the Senate or not. But he says, as long as I am in the Senate, I have to be a senator. I have to do my job. And Vespasian says, I don't think you understand. If you do that, I will put you to death. And Helvidius looks at him and he says, look, you do your part and I'll do mine.

• 11:20Ryan Holiday?

  Our job is to do our job, which is to be good. And then also to do the thing we were trained to do, to do the thing that we know is important, as meaningful that we promised to do when we took up this responsibility. And so like the consequences, the recognition, the pay, all that can change, but the duty remains, right? The duty remains. That's what a Stoic would say. And obviously, we have multiple jobs, right? And one of the jobs I'm trying to do well is raise my kids well. I might be disgusted with how other people are behaving. I might be disappointed in the world. And I might despair at my ability to sort of impact, shape the future.

• 12:05Ryan Holiday?

  But I have the opportunity to have multi-generational impact in my own home. Like, I think about the way that my life is shaped by choices that my father made, things that he taught me and then things that he should have done and didn't do. And I think about how his father shaped him. I think about how on a daily basis, my life is shaped by things that my grandfather did and on and on, right? This is our chance for multi-generational impact. And one of my favorite things to do is I write the Daily Dad email. I do the Daily Stoic, and we also do Daily Dad. I do videos and I write this sort of bit of parenting wisdom every day, drawn from history and science and literature and ordinary people to sort of pass along a parenting lesson every day. It goes out to almost 100,000 people all over the world.

• 12:50Ryan Holiday?

  But mostly, I'm doing the Daily Dad for myself because I'm always researching and writing and collecting ideas on how I can be better at what is really my most important job, because I want to be more patient. I want to set a good example. I want to help my kids become what they're meant to become. And that's something I, I don't control it completely, but it's somewhere where I have a lot of influence, right? And raising our kids is one of the most important things we'll ever do. And yet, how many people just sort of trust their gut? They just kind of go along. They're so caught up in the day-to-day-ness of it, they're not consciously trying to do what they can do. And so- I try to study it the way that I study philosophy or history or business because I want to do it well.

• 13:35Ryan Holiday?

  And so if you are frustrated with the direction of your country, of the world, of your neighborhood, of so many things, right? And you could feel that for a variety of reasons. Well, one place you can direct that is in your own home, right? It starts at home. So raise your kids right. Raise your kids to make a difference. I'm keeping a journal as I always have because in keeping a journal, it keeps me. You know, the Stoics, they lived in turbulent, chaotic, dysfunctional time. There was Nero and Domitian and Claudius. There was Commodus who came after Marcus Aurelius, right? I think it's an interesting question. How did they stay clear headed and principled? How did they not lose their minds?

• 14:19Ryan Holiday?

  And the answer to that is hard work. And the place they did that work, which one writer would say the Stoics, where they waged their spiritual combat was on the pages of their journal. That's where they got perspective. That's where they shook off misinformation and noise. It's where they sort of boiled things down into truth. It's where they fought for control of the greatest empire themselves. Marcus Aurelius is fighting to be the person that philosophy tried to make him. And where is he doing that? In Meditations. Meditations is the byproduct of Marcus Aurelius writing a journal in a chaotic period, a period as chaotic as the one we're in now, one that made as little sense to him as this one might make to you.

• 15:04Ryan Holiday?

  But he used the pages of the journal to help it make sense. Orwell said that, you know, to see what's in front of your nose needs a constant struggle. He was talking about totalitarianism and authoritarianism and state control in the 20th century. But he actually said that, that a journal was something that helps towards that. Said to keep a record of what you're thinking, of what's happening. It's something you can hold fast to that can help you make sense. It can even help you hold yourself accountable to your own opinions. I guess what I'm saying is that if you're not examining your mind. Who is? If you're not dumping your frustrations out on the pages, like, who are you dumping them on?

• 15:48Ryan Holiday?

  If you're not using a journal to gain self-awareness, to cut through all that noise, how are you gonna see what's in front of you? And you have to do this. You can use the Daily Stoic Journal, for instance. Like, this is mine. It has a little leather cover in it. It's a reminder. Make time. I want to make time every day. I want to sit down with some questions. I want to sit down and create some distance between me and the present moment, root myself in deeper principles, bigger ideas, go to clarity, and a journal is something you've got to be doing in this day and age. And here's something that I think stands the test of time that I'm working on. I want to treat people well. I don't control the cruelty in the world.

• 16:32Ryan Holiday?

  I don't control how others act. I don't care how unfair, or thoughtless, or selfish most people are or are being in this moment. But I control how I run my team. I control whether I show up for my family. I control how I treat strangers. The world is always going to have its share of rude people and dishonest people and indifferent people. I mean, look, Marcus really, he opens Book Two of Meditations by saying to himself, "The people I will deal with today are going to be meddling and ungrateful and arrogant and dishonest and jealous and surly." This is what people are gonna be. This is the way they always have been. We don't control that, but we control whether we're like them. He says, "We control whether we let them implicate us in their ugliness," right? We don't have to contribute to it.

• 17:16Ryan Holiday?

  We can be kind and patient and fair. This is something that's always in my control. That's one of the wonderful things about being an entrepreneur, but also about being a consumer. You decide what you're gonna do with your wallet. You decide how you're gonna run your business. You decide your policies. I decide what vendors I use for the things we make for Daily Stoic. I control what companies I do business with. I control the benefits that I offer. I control, you know, my tone of voice. I control my stuff, right? We should focus on treating people well. This is where we can have a positive impact. As I said, it's a noisy, difficult, crazy world. So I'm prioritizing stillness. We need to be able to think clearly.

• 18:00Ryan Holiday?

  We need to not be reactive. We can't be emotional all the time. We have to have perspective and intention. And the only way to cultivate that is with stillness, right? The time we spend with a journal, the hobbies we cultivate, the way we set up our lives and our information diet, like what inputs we allow in. Because it is from stillness that insight and perspective and contentment and happiness and clarity, all this stuff comes from. A friend of mine, Randall Stutman, who's coached some of the biggest CEOs in the history of Wall Street. He talked to me once about how he noticed that all these high performers tended to have a hobby that didn't involve a lot of voices, right? They would listen to classical music. They went fly fishing.

• 18:45Ryan Holiday?

  They did long distance bike races. Or they ran, or they did archery. These people who are perpetually busy, there was endless demands on their time. They were talking to people constantly. They had to cultivate stillness in their routine, in their life, that allowed them to reflect, that allowed them to sift through things, that allowed them to connect with themselves. So then they could go back out in the world and connect with other people. And ultimately, that's what stillness is the key is about. But if we're not cultivating what the Stoics call aderaxia, and I opened the book with a scene from Seneca in the midst of his life falling apart, in the midst of Nero losing his mind. You know, Seneca is trying to do some writing and he's having to tune out all the sounds around him,

• 19:30Ryan Holiday?

  the chaos of the city. He's trying to lock in. And if we can't cultivate that stillness, we're not going to be what we need to be and we're not going to be able to do what we need to do. And look, you don't control the chaos of the world, but you do control whether you get sucked into it. You do control whether you have a retreat or an escape from it. You do control whether you bring stillness to it, but you do control whether you contribute to the craziness, whether you are disturbed amidst all the disturbances.

• 20:03Ryan Holiday?

  Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic Podcast. I just wanted to say we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple of years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please, spread the word. Tell people about it. And this isn't to sell anything. I just wanted to say thank you.