Trump’s EU Power Move, Cory Booker’s Meltdown & AI That Can Read Your Mind | The Tom Bilyeu Show

Tom and co-host Drew tackle some of the most pressing issues shaping our world right now—from trade deals and tech breakthroughs to the complexities of American politics and evolving cultural narratives. The conversation kicks off with reactions to a major US-EU trade agreement and what it means for America’s place in the global economy. Tom and Drew dive into the ongoing gridlock in Congress, sparked by passionate remarks from Cory Booker, and discuss whether polarization is crippling the nation—or protecting it from “doing anything really crazy.” They draw surprising parallels between the American political landscape and other countries, especially China. Next, the team explores a viral ad campaign starring Sydney Sweeney, unpacking the culture war currently raging over beauty standards, identity, and the stories we tell ourselves as a society. Tom makes the case for the power of uplifting narratives—both for individuals and entire nations—while warning of the risks when those narratives turn toxic. SHOWNOTES 00:00 Political Gridlock and Lack of Compromise 05:44 Bipartisan Values Amidst Polarization 12:23 "Expectations vs. Reality" 16:28 The Dangers of Disempowering Narratives 21:19 Evolutionary Signals of Attractiveness 26:38 Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes Debate 33:50 "Value Added Tax Impact" 38:42 "Vision Beyond Today" 44:31 "Pursuit of Success: Go to America" 50:22 "Unreal Engine's Transformative Impact" 55:35 Children's Bonds with Characters 01:01:49 "AI Future: Utopia or Dystopia?" 01:05:37 Continuous Skill Improvement Strategy 01:11:44 "Understanding Leads to Wealth" 01:16:43 Violent Currents Cause Whale Beaching 01:23:43 Exclusion Fuels Social Media Backlash 01:25:41 Misuse of Men's Reputation Tool 01:30:22 "Finding Social Opportunities to Shine" 01:35:51 "Women as Evolution's Gatekeepers" 01:42:46 "Motherhood and Mate Selection Strategy" 01:47:59 Exploiting Global Dating Markets SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to ⁠https://www.vitalproteins.com⁠ https://www.vitalproteins.com and entering promo code IMPACT at check out SKIMS: Shop SKIMS Mens at ⁠https://www.skims.com/impact⁠ https://www.skims.com/impact #skimspartner Allio Capital: Macro investing for people who want to understand the big picture. Download their app in the App Store or at Google Play, or text my name “TOM” to 511511. SleepMe: Visit ⁠https://sleep.me/impact⁠ https://sleep.me/impact to get your Chilipad and save 20% with code IMPACT. Try it risk-free with their 30-night sleep trial and free shipping. Jerry: Stop needlessly overpaying for car insurance - download the Jerry app or head to ⁠https://jerry.ai/impact⁠ https://jerry.ai/impact Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠https://shopify.com/impact⁠ https://shopify.com/impact CashApp: Download Cash App Today: ⁠https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/v6nymgjl⁠ https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/v6nymgjl #CashAppPod iRestore: For a limited time only, our listeners are getting a HUGE discount on the iRestore Elite when you use code IMPACT at ⁠https://irestore.com/impact⁠ https://irestore.com/impact What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:⁠⁠⁠ join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER⁠⁠⁠ https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:⁠⁠⁠ see if you qualify here.⁠⁠⁠ https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:⁠⁠⁠ sign up here.⁠⁠⁠ https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,⁠⁠⁠ Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** LISTEN TO IMPACT THEORY AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS:⁠⁠⁠ apple.co/impacttheory⁠⁠⁠ http://apple.co/impacttheory ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/tombilyeu⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:27Tom Bilyeu?

  MIT student created a device that lets you telepathically search Google, and America is rapidly reemerging as a semiconductor tech hub which is going to be critical for the decade ahead. Drew, your thing on Cory Booker is interesting. I did not have this take watching Cory Booker, but you have an interesting question. Why don't we play the clip? And then let's talk about where we're headed here.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  I see law firms bending a knee to this president, not caring about the larger principles of those free speech rights. You can take on any client. Why are you bending the knee? I see universities that should be bastions of free speech bending at the knee to this president. I see businesses taking late night talk show hosts off the air because they dare to insult a president. I see people who want mergers suddenly think that they have to pay tribute to this president. And what are the very people here elected to defend the Constitution of the United States, saying, "Oh, well, today, let's look the other way and pass some resources that won't go to Connecticut,

• 2:38Speaker 01

  that won't go to Illinois, that won't go to New York, that will go to the states he likes."

• 2:45Speaker 01

  That is complicity with an authoritarian leader who is trashing our Constitution. It's time for Democrats to have a backbone. It's time for us to fight. It's time for us to draw lines. And when it comes to the safety of my state, being denied these grants, that's why I'm standing here. Don't question my integrity. Don't question my motives. I'm standing for Jersey.

• 3:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Is gridlock the answer? And I think gridlock has served America for a very long time. I've been very pro-grid lock. I've loved the fact that our democracy, the way that it works, is we basically get this tension between the two sides and we can sort of stop each other from doing anything really crazy. I think that it's breaking down now that we're in a tribal moment and there is no like, "Oh, here's the thing that we all agree on and those are the thing that gets moved forward." The very second it's being brought to you by the other side, it's the devil incarnate. "We could never do that." Like, "We can't be seen as being on their team." People have called me a Trump apologist. They're now calling you a Trump apologist, but you also get accused of being a communist. It's like, it's madness.

• 3:50Tom Bilyeu?

  When I look at the comments on my video, which we'll talk about later for the taxing, it's like everybody is trying to filter the world into friend, not friend. I forget who it was, forgive me, because it's someone who's in the feed all the time. And they were like, "Wake up, Tom. Destiny is not your friend." And I was like, "What does that have to do with anything?" So it doesn't matter if Destiny is for or against me. He is able to help me see the world from a radically different point of view. And the fact that I can sit down with him and have a civil conversation and enjoy my time with him, like, I don't... That use, that, that is how humans operate. That's how you get something done is it does not need to be somebody that you agree with top to bottom.

• 4:35Tom Bilyeu?

  It doesn't need to be somebody that you consider a friend, but you're still looking at them going, is there something here? Is there something high utility? Can we be of benefit to each other? Reagan used to talk about this. He's like, we'll be on the Senate floor and I'll be arguing with, you know, whoever. I forget who it was that he had this relationship with, but we'll argue like cats and dogs when we're on the clock, but then we can go have a drink, we can go have a meal. And that sense of like, oh, this is a real person. He's got a family. There's people he loves, like he wants what he believes is best for the country. We just don't agree on how we're going to get there. When you have that, when people can break bread, when they can come together, when they can say, okay, we disagree on 80% of this stuff, but these 20% like bipartisan, no problem, because these are the values that we stand for, that we agree on. Let's move this forward.

• 5:19Tom Bilyeu?

  In a polarized populist moment, all of that ceases to exist and we are spiraling into madness. Now, the reason I say that this brings in a conversation about China is China does not have that problem. Xi will literally kill anybody that disagrees too much, or he'll disappear them, or he'll kidnap them, he'll re-educate them. And the question we're going to have to answer is, are we going to try to out China China, which would be a mistake? You will lose. Like that is a guarantee. I'm happy to do a full episode if people want to talk about how that is a guaranteed fail state. Or do you find your way, what I'll say is back to an American identity, but we do not have a shared American identity right now.

• 6:00Tom Bilyeu?

  And that is absolutely going to make it impossible for us to move forward. So I've been thinking a lot about, okay, what am I trying to do? Like what, what is the, why do I find myself so compelled to engage in politics, culture, world affairs? And the answer is much like.

• 6:26Tom Bilyeu?

  I was able to use social mobility to completely change my life, to change my family's life, all of that. And I'm like, oh, I want to make sure this is available for other people. So when you do it, it's like, I mean, I guess some people have the impulse to pull the ladder up. I do not have that impulse. I'm like, okay, like, let's make sure that everybody has a shot at this. And then when I was such a beneficiary psychologically of the view that people had of what America was back in the eighties, that it set me up to be aggressive, to be entrepreneurial, to realize I could have anything that I wanted. I was gonna have to pay a price. There was no doubt about that. But that, like, it just set me up in

• 7:10Tom Bilyeu?

  a way to be so optimistic about my future. And in being optimistic about my future, it just became this guiding light for my life. And I'm like, we have got to get people back to that. So I'm gonna be beating that drum. I'm gonna give people something that they can think about that is pure execution. It is go, learn, understand, build a worldview that is utility based, figure out how to deploy this. And right now, the Cory Booker thing is the exact, all of politics. This is not a Cory Booker problem. Trump talks in the exact same way. They all like, the other side is evil. But that, that is going to make us lose to China. So, boys and girls, understand. So I'm going up against Tim Sweeney. Okay, that's the CEO of Epic Games. He is a formidable opponent. Do I want to win against

• 7:55Tom Bilyeu?

  him? Yes. But do I trick myself into thinking that he's a moron, or that he's evil? No, I do not. I go, what can I learn? What is he doing that I should be looking at and emulating? Where are the missteps so that I can, like, make space for myself? Xi is that on steroids. People do not understand. There are consequences to losing as a nation. There are consequences. And we have no sense of that. We think that, oh, like, if China wins, what's the big deal? The big deal is motherfucker, that they will, all the things that you're angry at America for doing, now imagine that you literally, that stuff, you don't have to, like, hide it or do it behind the scenes. That's just your MO. Motherfuckers

• 8:37Tom Bilyeu?

  get locked in their apartment for two years or whatever, and you arrest them if they open the door. You board their door up. Like, you do whatever you have. They're staying in their apartment. So I don't think people understand. If China wins the AI race... That is how you get a totalitarian regime that you just can't get around because AI is just always there.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:59Tom Bilyeu?

  So this is a high stakes game, man, and people are playing like, uh, like the, the good times in America will last forever and they will not.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Every time we see Cory Booker pop a vein out in his neck, oh, he's just a lefty. He has TDS. This is the part that like, I don't, we have to stop dismissing people because see your point time, if there's a North Star, if I want to get to the Wizard of Oz, the Emerald City, right? I might not like the lion, but the lion's going to help me get from point A to point B. I might not like the Tin Man, the Tin Man is not my brother. I don't have to get married to the Tin Man. The Tin Man doesn't have to change their gender, but like I, I at least have to be with the Tin Man for the, you know what I mean? Like we lost this, let's just get in the car. I'll drive later, but at least you'll take me to the bus stop.

• 9:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Here's the thing, Drew, I am telling you right now, uh, the earliest realization I had in business, so imagine I know nothing about business and, but I really want to be a filmmaker and I become convinced I have to get rich to become a filmmaker. And so I'm just in there every day. How am I going to pull this off? How am I going to do this? And I'm looking around at everybody acting a fool. Like if the cat's away, the mice will play, people relaxing when the bosses were gone. And I was just like, some people need to be chased by a lion. Like they have no sense of like, my life may not go where I want it to go. And I had such a palpable, because it had already gone where I didn't want it to go. I was at like the film school of film schools. I was the Harvard of film schools. I really thought I was going to graduate into the studio system and now it's going

• 10:24Tom Bilyeu?

  to be that next Spielberg, it's, it's a rap. And I graduated to selling insurance door to door and not being able to pay my bills at the same time. And I was like, oh shit. No cell phones, no YouTube, like just different world. How the hell am I going to break in? And so I'm, it just became abundantly clear to me. These people are not afraid. And because they think everything is going to come easy, they, they are not going, I do this thing and it has this outcome that either is or isn't the outcome that I want and I need to adjust. But I didn't, I didn't really understand what I was on at that moment. Now, whatever, almost 30 years later.

• 11:06Tom Bilyeu?

  When you almost can't like really fail, like imagine you can get like a, I'm not saying it happens every day, but bro, you can get like a fleece blanket if you're homeless. Like it might be dirty, but you still got a fucking fleece blanket. You're in a city where you can just lay a tent out. You can get a tent as a homeless person. So when that's like your worst, worst, worst, all of a sudden it's people just, they do not have the clarity of thought to say, we have a very formidable opponent that is focused. They're driven, they're determined. And if we don't play to win and if we don't raise our kids to play to win,

• 11:48Tom Bilyeu?

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• 12:33Tom Bilyeu?

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• 14:17Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  This makes me want to jump into the Sydney Sweeney thing because I thought we were just talking about jeans. I thought it was going to be a bunch of titty jokes.

• 14:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  That's what I went down the rabbit hole with.

• 14:29Tom Bilyeu?

  I was gonna say, if you haven't gone down the rabbit hole, it is wild. The number of people, like legitimately, because I thought, okay, this is going to be obscure where it's like you hear people saying, oh, people are saying it's Nazi propaganda, but then you can't find it.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 14:42Tom Bilyeu?

  This was like reel after reel after reel after reel of people saying, this is Nazi propaganda, like actual Nazi propaganda. What? You gotta play the commercial.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  My jeans are blue.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  Sidney Sweeney has very keen.

• 15:06Tom Bilyeu?

  There is a phenomenal Shakespeare quote. There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

• 15:15Tom Bilyeu?

  You only see 0.0035% of the electromagnetic spectrum. You think you see everything. You don't. Your brain is shorthanding everything. And we live inside of this simulation. The simulation made by your brain. The simulation requires narrative. You have to explain the thing to yourself. And so you're constantly telling yourself a story about yourself. Now I am here to tell you right now as a PSA, your life, the quality of your life will be entirely dictated by the narrative you tell yourself about yourself. That's it. It's going to control everything. Everything is downstream of what you believe is possible. This is why I call the only belief that matters, the only belief that matters. The only belief that matters is if I put time and energy into getting better at something, I will actually get better. From that one belief, everything else changes.

• 15:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Because if you don't believe that, then you're, you're always on the back foot. Life is about playing the hand of cards that you were dealt. If you can get better, then it's like, I could make a new game. I could get a new hand of cards. I can do whatever I want. And the, the way that your behaviors will cascade down from that decision, and it is a decision, that decision that you make about which of those two things is true, is wild. There is a Einstein quote where he says, the most important decision any man will ever make is whether he lives in a friendly or a hostile universe. And what I love is, as he said, it is a decision. Now, what they're all trying to get at is it's a narrative. You're going to tell yourself a story.

• 16:40Tom Bilyeu?

  We have started telling ourselves a story about Europeans, about white people, about America. That is all bad, all the time, from top to bottom. And good luck pointing to any culture where you are not going to find horrors.

• 16:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Horrors upon horrors. What you will find, though, are people that tell them an empowering story about their culture and people who tell themselves a disempowering narrative about their culture. And America is destroying itself because we have allowed to take hold a disempowering narrative. There's just no way around that. But as Douglas Murray pointed out, do you really want to back white people into group identity? Does that really, like, history doesn't show you enough that that game doesn't play out well? It is so dumb to back groups into race-based identities. Any group can do it, and it's just as stupid when they do it. I'm telling you, read about Xi Jinping. You just see how this is like, behind the scenes, he's like, okay, we have to, first

• 17:41Tom Bilyeu?

  of all, propaganda is a must. Second, we have to tell a cultural narrative. He doesn't say regardless of truth, but that's his punchline. Regardless of truth, that makes people feel good about China, that makes them understand that we are basically heaven-mandated to be the center of the world. And when you raise kids believing the Chinese are mandated by God to be the center of the universe, that's a lot more uplifting than raising kids telling them, you're evil. You've done bad things throughout history. And like, it's sort of an original sin thing. It can't be washed away. Sorry. Like, which of those two people is gonna grow up to do awesome shit?

• 18:25Tom Bilyeu?

  If you overcome the you're-a-bad-person narrative, it's because you finally just go, I'm gonna lean into it. I'm gonna go all the way. I'm gonna be more like evil than the most evil, so that I can feel good about it. I'm, uh, I am the one who knocks, to make a reference to Breaking Bad. You get that person, okay? That's no fun. Or you get the person that's like, damn, like, I don't feel good. It's somebody else's turn. And now you lose entire crops of people who are not pushing, trying to be better, who are not trying to do the very thing that evolution has set us up to do, which is to see how far can we take our own abilities? And man, if people don't think that that is going to have catastrophic consequences,

• 19:10Tom Bilyeu?

  they are out of their minds.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  Then it gets frustrating because then you see the Calvin Klein ad from the 80s, and Brooke Shields did the same thing. So you can tell that this was a reboot of an ad, and people don't even realize they're getting mad at a redone ad like.

• 19:26Speaker 05

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• 19:56Tom Bilyeu?

  And PS, here's, okay, this ad admittedly has issues in my mind, because she's 15 when she filmed this, but they're talking about beauty. They're not talking about race. You could put Beyonce in that ad. Hey, she is beautiful. What does it matter that she's not white? This is about being attractive. This is about, yeah, some people are more beautiful than others. I hate to break it to all of us, myself included, but that's just the way it goes. That is the way it goes. But if we're going to tell ourselves the narrative that we are bad people for being white, this is not going to play out well. This is really stupid. Next topic, Drew.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  Trump got another investment. Let's go to Fox News and get the announcement.

• 20:41Speaker 06

  So those things are 750 billion, 600 billion, opening up the country. We are agreeing that the tariff straight across for automobiles and everything else will be a straight across tariff of 15%.

• 21:04Speaker 06

  So we have a tariff of 15%. We have the opening up of all of the European countries, which I think I could say were essentially closed. I mean, you weren't exactly taking our orders, you weren't exactly taking our agriculture, and then you would have smaller things, but for the most part, it was closed. And now it's open. It's open for our companies to go in and do a good job with it. I think you'll like them.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  I think you'll like it. 15% across the board. So that's UK, EU down. We talked about a deal with Japan. We had some other deal for smaller Asian countries. So we're getting through the bingo board, but the big one, China, is still kind of missing. We still haven't heard anything.

• 21:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, I'll tell you a lot in China, but EU's bid. So he's certainly, I think begrudgingly getting a lot of credit for this one. He has basically opened the entire EU market to us and gotten them to, with virtually no tariffs whatsoever, and gotten them to agree to paying tariffs on sending stuff to us. So it, I mean, this one is very one-sided. It's a pretty big win. So you can't knock that. Now, again, the whole game is China. So we shall see. And some people in the chat are so curious as to why I'm obsessed with China, man. I have, I have tried to express myself over and over and over. Sorry, Mike, if you feel like he's a troll. People are saying I'm feeding the trolls.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I see a lot of people are talking about the increase in cost that this will eventually lead to.

• 22:36Tom Bilyeu?

  It could.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Kevin O'Leary kind of grounded it when we talked about the VAT tax example, and I think that that is something that...

• 22:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, okay, so let's look at the good and the bad. So the way that a VAT tax works is the government is saying that like if you're making a leather jacket, that you get the raw goods, the raw goods is bought by the person that tans the hide or whatever. And so they did a thing to add value to the leather that you got from the cow. So they're going to pay a tax, the value-added tax. You were taxed on the value that you add. Because let's say that you bought the raw hide for $50, but you double its value by tanning it. So now it's worth $100. So you're going to get taxed on the $50 increase. So every step, somebody adds a button. How much did the button add? They get taxed. So it's a way for the government to make sure that they get their piece.

• 23:26Tom Bilyeu?

  Whether or not you end up selling it in the retail store or not. So now you can, everybody gets to reclaim the step before them. But anyway, they end up getting their roughly, call it 10% of the value that was added to the object at the time of sale. They've been getting it all along the way. And the reason that people get weird about a value added tax, the reason that we have avoided doing it is it's a consumption tax. Consumption taxes are going to hurt the middle class and the poor the most because they have the biggest, everything that they buy is a bigger portion of the amount of money that they have. So it's like, we've always shied away from that. But we've gotten to the point now where people understand if you keep taxing the rich, you're actually going to take in less tax. That's wildly unpopular, but it's just mathematically true.

• 24:11Tom Bilyeu?

  So people can squawk and squeal all they want. But what will happen is just, A, it's on repeat. It happens in history over and over and over and over. And the only way to stop it is to put capital controls. And when you put capital controls, you kill your desirability. So if you want to look at the countries that have done it, people stop investing. So that's even dumber. But hopefully, we don't go down that path. Okay, so we have wanted to avoid a value added tax because it's a consumption tax. But the good news about a tariff based consumption tax is it is almost always shared between the exporter and the importer. So people always think, well, the price is just going to be passed on to the customer directly, and it's usually not true.

• 24:55Tom Bilyeu?

  First of all, both sides will absorb as much as they can because they set their price for a reason. So they'll absorb as much as they can. So you really are getting it from the business. So people that have beef, I don't understand because you want businesses to be taxed more, well, here it is. And then the consumer

• 25:12Tom Bilyeu?

  will possibly take a slight increase, but they only pay that increase if they want to buy the good. So there are certain goods where you'd be up in arms if you're being charged a tax on, so essentials. That's why you want to make essentials in your own country so that you can avoid that. And then if somebody prefers the thing from the country, well, then you accept. I'm willing to pay this premium on this thing. And if you're not, you've got your option there in country. Uh, and this is why globalism, it, it hurts to go from globalism to protectionist. Going from protectionist to globalist, which will happen again in whatever 30 or 40 years. So, uh, hang tight. But, um, going this way sucks, but you do need to reshore some of your manufacturing so that you can stop having the tariffs.

• 25:56Tom Bilyeu?

  But, um, this is the game. So it won't be just entirely passed on to people. That's the punchline.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. And we have had reports now that that tariff number is at 160 billion, money that we have been coming in through this. So for money that wasn't there at the beginning of the year, and that has been generated through these actions, although aggressive and without our biggest trade partners, so we can only see that number going up.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  That is looking promising if that could be a sustainable amount. And just like you said in the tax video, like the amount that people are actually paying in income tax isn't nearly as much as we think.

• 26:33Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, it is wild. The bottom 50% only pay 3% of tax.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 26:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Say that one more time. The bottom 50% only pay 3% of the total taxes taken in by the US government. Three, I was shocked by that. That, that is wild.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, that also speaks to the horrifying inequality. So I do not want anybody to think that I've somehow changed my tune. Inequality is not only terrible for people, terrible for the country. It's dangerous. Uh, it kills social mobility. Like it is literally bad from top to bottom. There, there, uh, when inequality gets this bad, there's no benefit to point to.

• 27:15Tom Bilyeu?

  So you have to find your way out of this. We all know my stance. No more money printing, no more debt.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  Uh, okay. We were talking about this off camera. And this kind of shifts to like tariffs and social mobility. But I'm thinking now of almost global mobility and how, you know, you're from a worldly family, people in Britain, they come to the US. People from Greece came to Britain.

• 27:35Tom Bilyeu?

  As a side note, that was one of the most glorious things about going to this wedding. Traveling multicultural, it's dope, man. This is why I love being in America. But we got to find that unifying narrative. Anyway. Marriage brings people together in a beautiful way.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, but seeing like that the world is bigger, that there are other industries, other cultures, other societies and things like that. Just in general, is there a way that we can increase global mobility? And I'm trying very hard not to sound like-

• 28:02Tom Bilyeu?

  In this moment?

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Yes, like it's just because we have to get through this moment. That won't, that's not a release valve we can let go like-

• 28:08Tom Bilyeu?

  I, I, uh, the only way for me to stay sane and to step in front of a camera is to understand that the things that I say now will take a generation to play out. If I keep my eyes set on that, which is the very thing I'm trying to get America to do. You are up against a formidable foe worthy of your respect. That thinks in 20, 30 year increments. And they're constantly dialoguing behind the scenes because it's just the political party. They talk to each other and I guess I mean it's thousands of people. But they communicate, okay, look, this is what the next 10 years is. And then after that, we're going to do this for the next 10 years. And so they've got these really long reaching visions that they just plan for and then they execute. And so what I want people to start doing is contribute in a way where you will plant a tree

• 28:53Tom Bilyeu?

  under whose shade you will never sit. Um, while I would love to live an extraordinarily long life and sit under all these trees that I'm planting. I'm okay if I don't.

• 29:03Tom Bilyeu?

  I want to help, I want to help every country find their mojo. But obviously, because I live in America, I want to see America get its mojo back. And- We have to understand that when you're raising a kid, they're gonna be a three-year-old. There's nothing to do about that. You gotta go through the terrible twos, you gotta let them throw tantrums in their threes, right, to get to the seven and eight where it's like really kind of beautiful for just a second. And then they get to 13, they are going to reject you. It is, it is known before it happens. They're going to reject you. Uh, and then they're 25 and they're gonna come back and they're gonna realize if you raised them well and you weren't abusive, blah, blah, blah, they're gonna realize, whoa, you were right about a lot of things. Thank you for giving me this platform. So this is all predictable. Uh, populism is predictable.

• 29:48Tom Bilyeu?

  Inequality is predictable. Like, this is a math equation. Uh, the debt makes, um, it impossible. It, it creates the wild inequality, which people can see. So that makes them feel bad. We're wired to hate that. Uh, it also makes social mobility very difficult. Um, and so when you have moments of tremendous debt, tremendous inequality, you are go, you are going to end up in a populist moment. When you're in a populist moment, everybody is on a tribe. Everybody thinks they're fighting for their lives. And the only way to unwind that is by, um, austerity and a whole beautiful deleveraging. But the part that everybody can't swallow is the austerity part. So you have to go into austerity, which means you just give people less money.

• 30:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Which means, yes, some people that you don't want to have to see go to work, they're gonna have to go to work. Uh, some people are gonna struggle. Some people are gonna lose their house, they're gonna be homeless. Yep, that, that is what ends up happening when you get into this dire circumstance. Now, I wish that this were avoidable. History has proven it's just not. If money can be printed, you will find yourself here. The way back out is unfortunately just as predictable. Look at what's going on in Argentina. He's literally going, oh, you look back at 500 years of history, we know how to get out of this. People don't want to do it, but we know what to do. And then he, he is just Malay, is just running the playbook and it's working. It's wild. So, um, all of this is all physics of money stuff. So I don't think there is any way for us to be like, um, hey, let's try to be globalist again right now. Right now is not a globalist moment.

• 31:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Right now is protectionist. People are mad.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  Hook her down, yeah.

• 31:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep, people are mad. Uh, the world really is rigged against them and they're going to unrig it. No matter what they have to blow up, destroy, no matter who they have to kill. And so that like- Sense of, ooh, we have to go through this. Like, I don't think there's a magic sequence of words that I can utter to save adults. I'm back on my, this is all about the kids. So, one, I'm trying to reach the 2% of adults that are actually swayable, in my opinion. Uh, and then I want to do something for the next generation. And then the next generation, I hope, will just grow up being like, ah, this is an amazing place. Yeah. Uh, I can control my destiny, but I have to work very hard if I'm going to do it. That the human existence, the reason that we became the most dominant apex predator the world has ever seen,

• 32:03Tom Bilyeu?

  is because I can get better at something. And so, oh, I'm the ultimate adaptation machine. Got it. I have to put myself in a position where I'm going to adapt. And you're going up against Chinese kids that work around the clock. Literally, around the clock. And so, you either want it or you don't. Taking a short break, but there's more Impact Theory after. Stay tuned. You're probably paying two salespeople to do one salesperson's job. That's where today's sponsor, Pipe Drive, comes in. An intelligent, AI-powered sales CRM loved by growing sales teams. Pipe Drive just launched meeting intelligence built right into the CRM.

• 32:43Tom Bilyeu?

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• 33:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for staying tuned. Now, let's get back to it.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  Tom wanted a standing ovation earlier today for this video. Let's actually watch it now.

• 33:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, this is wild.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  We'll jump into it.

• 33:40Speaker 07

  What is forty-five thousand, six hundred, eighty-nine divided by sixty-seven?

• 33:47Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 33:48Speaker 07

  He silently asked the computer and then hears the answer through vibrations transmitted through his skull and into his inner ear.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Six, eight, one, point nine, two, five.

• 34:06Speaker 07

  Exactly right. One more. What's the largest city in Bulgaria and what is the population? The screen shows how long it takes the computer.

• 34:17Tom Bilyeu?

  He's literally just thinking this. I'm guessing it's picking up like the impulses that he's sending to his vocal cords or something? Because it's, it's not reading his brainwaves. I can tell that by where it's placed on him, but it is very interesting. He's able to both ask and receive the answer without anybody else hearing. This is crazy. The stuff that is available right now today is very impressive. So you can, it looks ugly and it looks awkward, but you can right now today, telepathically ask Google a question and telepathically receive the answer. Like he's hearing it, but nobody else is.

• 34:58Tom Bilyeu?

  That is, this is, yeah, femboy is scared. Understandably so. Understandably so.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Um, it's, it's cool, but I think that's where I kind of end up is like, what's, what's the factor outside of the coolness?

• 35:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Like In terms of what's it gonna do to society?

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Telepathically talk to Google. But I guess it's the implication of a telepathic device.

• 35:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, now you just have the answers. Like, once this is at the speed of thought, you just think, what is this thing? And it's as if your own brain hands you the answer. So, um,

• 35:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, what will be the consequences where you have augmented memories, you have augmented knowledge? I like to think it plays out like The Matrix, where you've got a thing that you want to do in real life, but you need that knowledge. But the knowledge is really just meant to facilitate a thing. It's not like I have the knowledge and I'm this passive zombie. Like, when I'm writing the deep dives, I'm learning the topic, but I'm engaging with AI. AI speeds up the learning process by, I mean, 5X? 10X, Drew? It's unbelievable. If you go back to when I was in high school and you had to drive to the local library, now I'm like trying to go through newspapers and books and stuff like, oh my god.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  Got everything laid on.

• 36:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, like, you're getting the, um, the microfiche and you're like scanning through, like, dude, compared to that, it's 100 times faster, 1,000 times faster. It's unbelievable. And so, it's upping the amount of things that I can do. And so, when I even, gaming just is always such a stark reminder for me, what we're able to do with Project Kaisen versus what somebody would have been able to do back in the 80s or 90s, is like, games were pixelated for a reason, the technology just didn't exist. And as the technology improves, it unlocks what people are able to do. So it's the same people, it's probably more people working on the game, but it's people of the same intellectual capacity, but now with all these tools at their disposal, they're able to push things and push things and push things.

• 37:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Even just the, um, updates that have been added to the Unreal Engine in the three and a half years that we've been developing, it's been like night and day different. We've been able to get so much more done. It's unbelievable. So, uh, yeah, this is yet another technology that if you're pointing it at something that matters, it's going to unlock human capabilities, the likes of which we can't even predict yet, what it's going to allow us to do. Is it going to give some people brain rot? Of course, there are people that abuse everything. But if you look back, somebody posted about this yesterday, and it was like, every major entertainment revolution was blamed for rotting kids' brains. So it was like, when novels came out, there was this headline that was like, uh, teen

• 37:44Tom Bilyeu?

  chops his own head off, novels to blame. So, it's like, look. For sure, people can get addicted to video games. People will, there will be some terrifying stories, exactly about all of it. But they are incredible tools and I don't see people like getting rid of it. I see people striving to have a way healthier relationship and I think that is very wise. Uh, but the things that they let you do are just incredible.

• 38:11Speaker 02

  I'm sure Dark says even Socrates was blamed for riding kids' brains.

• 38:14Tom Bilyeu?

  It's so true. He was killed. It's wild.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  Uh, I, I think the most I'm excited for is the overlap between a device like this and Neuralink. Where we're not actually able to talk, help, add mobility, add clarification, add societal cues to people who are quadriplegics, who can't move, who have some type of learning disability, like what would somebody who's on the spectrum? How would they use this device to articulate their thoughts more clearly or?

• 38:41Tom Bilyeu?

  That's really interesting. So, I mean, look, that will come out in the wash, whether it works in the way that I'm about to describe or not. But I could certainly see it being something like where the AI is picking up on the facial cues. And so the AI, which can read very subtle cues, is telling you, uh, they're happy, they're sad, they're frightened, they're withdrawing, whatever. And so you get some sort of vibration pattern that you know, oh, that's the happy one. So it's like, oh, I'm making them happy. Uh, ooh, they're like withdrawing. Whoa, like we would all get that from queuing off of somebody's face. But if they're blind to that and they don't understand, but the thing, they can learn to recognize the 17 vibration patterns. And all of a sudden they're like, really? So, uh, it's possible. Again, I don't know that's how it would play out. But that is certainly one way where I could see, because I know they're already using that.

• 39:26Tom Bilyeu?

  There's a guy named David Eagleman, uh, former guest of the show, credible guy. Who's created this device that does that, allows deaf people to hear or blind people to see through vibration patterns. And the vibrations can be so specific that they can be like, oh, that's, um, Tom, whatever that just walked in the room. That's Drew that just walked in the room. Based on the vibration pattern, uh, they know what you quote unquote look like. So, uh, and they say that over time that they experience it as sight, which is crazy.

• 39:55Tom Bilyeu?

  So it.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  The vibration is being experienced.

• 39:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, that they it's not occupying the part of the brain for feeling. It's occupying the part of the brain for vision. So they feel like they're seeing the person, which is really interesting.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Keep going in AI news. A new study found that thirty three percent of teenagers you use AI chatbots for companionships, conversation, practice and romance. They found talking to AI easier than talking to real people and use it for emotional support. It's funny because you know, remember back when we were younger, they used to be like the sleepovers. It's like super taboo now, but like girls will all have a sleepover and they'll teach each other how to make out. And they'll start kissing on each other and things like that.

• 40:35Tom Bilyeu?

  I always had it was pillows, but.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  You know, whatever you're kissing on things. You you you get a group of friends and you say, we don't know how to do these things. So let's all have our bad ideas and see what's the best way to do it.

• 40:45Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Dudes got together, oh yeah, this is how you have sex. All that advice was terrible, but we it was just the best advice out of the five of us. That's what happens. It's interesting now with the like introduction of AI into those conversation circles where are we going to still get that kind of a coming of age renaissance? Or is now everybody going to be kind of reclusive and go into the closet and Google what they want to know? Sort of have that. So I just think that the AI chatbot thing for teenagers doesn't surprise me. But I just hope that it's not the sole purpose and it's just one of the sources.

• 41:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Listen, I don't love that parents are going to have to go out of their way to create moments for kids. But if I were raising a kid right now, I'd be thinking, okay, I've got to get a group of parents together that have kids at roughly the same age. And we're going to get them to have phone free time and they're going to spend whatever on Saturday. They're going to spend four or five hours in a space, you know, playground, whatever. But it's like you guys are here, make up your own games, have fun. You're not going to be on your phones under any circumstance. I mean, this is like the default stuff. Me and my cousins went to swim lessons together and it was just like you were riding in the back of the car. I mean, back then it was wild, no seat belts in the back of an El Camino. And all we did was pull a blanket over our heads. People would have a stroke today. But that kind of stuff where you're forced into groups.

• 42:00Tom Bilyeu?

  I was picked on relentlessly because I was the youngest and had gigantic ears. And you just have to learn to deal with it. And it's like, well, it's either going to break me or I'm going to figure this one out. And you need to put kids in that space. So I don't mind them. In fact, I think it's awesome that kids can have relationships with these characters. There's IP that is profoundly important to me that helped me build my values and all that stuff. So we are a storytelling species, but I don't want that to be the only method that people have to interact. Partly because, man, some of it is just the things that you do as a kid. They are going to be so meaningful to you as an adult, like there's just no way to recapture that. I think about this with parents where kids had parents that were abusive.

• 42:44Tom Bilyeu?

  It's like that sense of being unmoored that you don't have a positive memory about somebody going to the wedding that we went to over the past weekend and seeing like my wife around her parents and the people she grew up with and her siblings. Like there just really is something special about like the brain development that you're going through is so profoundly different when you're a child. And it locks things in in a way that can never be replicated as you get older. There's a great line in the Stephen King novella, The Body, which was turned into Stand By Me, the movie. And he says, you'll never have friends like the friends you had when you were 12.

• 43:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, whether he knew it or not, he's referring to a brain development cycle known as the age of imprint. And so you push away from your parents for the first time and you like really bond with your friends. And you start learning about culture from your friends. Your parents are never going to teach you about like the specific culture of the here and now. And so that kind of thing is exceedingly important. And so I wouldn't want all of that to come from even games, as much as I believe in games and how amazing they are. Like you wouldn't want all of that to come just from that.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  Elon Musk tweeted Samsung's giant new Texas fab will be dedicated to making Tesla's next generation AI six chip. The strategic importance of this is hard to overstate. Samsung currently makes A1 fours. TSMC will make A1 fives, which just finished design initially in Taiwan and then in Arizona. Excuse me, then in Arizona. Samsung also agreed to follow Tesla to to allow Tesla to assist in maximizing manufacturing efficiency.

• 44:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Do you know how gangster that is?

• 44:25Speaker 02

  I feel like that is Elon Musk saying, yeah, I'mma, I'mma, I'mma put it together.

• 44:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Bro, read the next sentence.

• 44:29Speaker 02

  This is a critical point, cool point, as I will walk in the, I will walk the line personally to accelerate the pace of progress and the fab is conveniently located not too far from my house.

• 44:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, listen, that. I am obviously an Elon fanboy because I don't know of a human in history that has been able to be more efficient than him. It's crazy. It is possible that there isn't another human that knows as much about manufacturing, high-tech manufacturing as he does. Cause he's done it across so many different industries. When Samsung is like, yeah, bro.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  Here you go.

• 45:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Come on in. Like, yes, please. It's, it, that is very impressive. You want to talk about up leveling your skills. Uh, it's very impressive. By the way, if we have any budding entrepreneurs in the house, let me give you one piece of advice that changed my life. It is one of the core things that I think made me wealthy. Anytime there was something in business that I absolutely hated, like contracts, uh, there was always somebody else that I could give the contract to, but I didn't. I would either do it with them, so I would co-read it with them and be like, what about this? What about that? Why'd you want to make that change? Because I knew one day I might need to do this myself. It will only advantage me to understand this. Do that. Lean into this stuff. Find out the cause and effect of like every important thing. Don't chase nonsense, but figure out what the important things are and chase it.

• 45:52Tom Bilyeu?

  And so that is exactly Elon. Getting to the engineering of things, sleeping on the floor of the production facility, learning how these things connect so that you can get to the point where you can walk into your partner, one of the biggest companies on planet earth and say, don't worry, we can help you be even more efficient. It's incredible, by the way, and that's also how you make American manufacturing. More the place that people will come to get things manufactured because you're passing that knowledge around. Now guaranteed, he was doing that in China with the Tesla factories. But now doing it in America, this is a good thing. It's a very good thing.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  I'm looking forward to it. I think domestic manufacturing has been huge. ASMC is officially opened up in Arizona. There is a bunch of jobs open and stuff like that. So we are, this can be a chip back. This is also TSMC's commitment with Trump earlier this year of investing in the US. So it seems like we're gonna have two bona fide chip manufacturers, at least for the major players.

• 46:49Tom Bilyeu?

  That's huge, man. That is huge. Reading the book about Xi Jinping, I'm like, yeah, probably good that we start getting these chips here sooner rather than later. I really want to get the author on. I think it'll be very interesting. He's a ambassador to, is it the Australian ambassador to America right now? I think he is. He was a prime minister to the president, president, prime minister of Australia. And then lived in China at one point, I think was the ambassador to, the Australian ambassador in China. And so he lived in Beijing for a while. So the book is very much an insider's look at. It's very interesting.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  All right. Shifting gears, the West Coast was under a tsunami alert after the large 8.8 magnitude earthquake that happened in Russia. This is footage from Japan where whales were actually washed on shore because of some of the high waves. There were some that crashed in San Francisco this morning that was reported, but the highest one was like three feet. So it seems like things, while they're juicy, they're not nothing crazy.

• 47:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, thankfully, there was a little bit of damage in Hawaii, but nothing insane. There are no deaths reported, not even in Russia. So yeah, this one could have been bad. Thankfully, it was not. The earthquake, though, was huge, 8.8. That is wildly destructive. But I did some research this morning on what ends up causing the whales to get beached is because the ocean currents become so violent, it sucks the water first out to sea. And then slams it back. So as it's getting sucked out to sea, they will often get trapped under debris. And remember they're mammals, so they have to breathe.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, so they can get trapped underwater and drown. They can get drug across the bottom and just like literally lacerated. Or it can push them so far forward that they end up getting trapped in the shallows. And so which of those things happened to these guys? I don't know, but uh, and often because they travel in pods. Once it gets one of them, it's going to get the whole pod. And so they're toast. Yeah, it's rough. It's rough. Being in the ocean is not a risk free, even when there's a tsunami. Cause at first I was like, wait, how do they like, cause it's the energy is passing through the water, but the water itself. Uh, isn't really moving, but it moves enough that it uh, can create that problem.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. It was the deadliest earthquake, or not deadly, it's the largest magnitude earthquake. In like the last like 30 years or something like that, from like a nine point oh that happened. I want to say it was in Chile. But so it was just nice that there was no deaths and the tsunami watch was crazy. Um, to land in LA and that's the first thing you see in the news is like, oh yeah, by the way, there might be a tsunami. Um, but luckily it hasn't been as bad. Uh, and we'll be with those whales. Hopefully they get back in the water.

• 49:36Tom Bilyeu?

  No, I think those guys are tapped out.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  It's a wrap.

• 49:39Tom Bilyeu?

  They, they did not look like they were making an effort to get back in the water.

• 49:42Speaker 02

  This was the video that some guy was partying on the beach that you said was happening over there. And he got yelled at by his wife on vacation. And because you just came from vacation, I wanted to get your take on.

• 49:52Tom Bilyeu?

  Wasn't quite the kind of vacation I was on. This is your vacation, but okay, let's see this.

• 50:04Speaker 08

  I don't think so.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 50:12Tom Bilyeu?

  What just happened? Was there something that happened off camera or she's literally got beef with him resting up against her?

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Her husband talking to a stranger in the pool. Say good, hey birthday and then.

• 50:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, that is a level of insecurity that is so unappealing.

• 50:33Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't get this. I'm not wired for that. Like if I saw Lisa with a jacked guy with $250,000 with a jewelry around his neck that flew in on a private jet, like richer than me, bigger muscles. Dude, if my wife is having a good time, I am not about to freak out. Now, if she's groping him,

• 50:57Speaker 02

  I was like, no way. You are way too cool for this. They gotta be alive. Okay.

• 51:01Tom Bilyeu?

  Of course, there's a lot. But it's like, to be playful or flirtatious, like that? That is so, that's insecurity. It is not a good look. Like if you want to take your husband to the side and be like, hey, I just want to express, I love that. Here's the thing. Remember, my wife and I speak in insecurities. So I'd be like, listen, I'm getting older. I see you with somebody who's younger, more attractive. It just triggers a thing in me. It's not, I get it. You were just having fun. You were being playful. I don't want to make a big deal out of this, but it does make me a little uncomfortable. So next time, if you could, just like a little spe- okay, you may say, listen, I don't like that. That boundary doesn't make me feel good. But obviously, I'm not making you feel beautiful. I'm not making you feel desired. I'm gonna

• 51:46Tom Bilyeu?

  address that because I find you beautiful. Ah, right? It's, you can have that moment, but like, ah, yeah, I don't get it. I don't get how people can't see how that comes across. Yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Is, okay, you said it'll have to hit like a certain threshold. Is there a,

• 52:06Speaker 02

  I guess, unwritten rule, like a conversation that's kind of like, all right, when we're in public spaces, just don't do this thing.

• 52:12Tom Bilyeu?

  100%. Lisa and I have talked about this, like up, down, like every way you can talk about it.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  Got you.

• 52:17Tom Bilyeu?

  And I have, we've looked at videos like that together and I'll be like, I would not care if you are having fun and you're singing and goofing around, or I'm like on a business call and I come back and you're dancing with somebody, but you're not like doing the lambada. Like, you're dancing like normal people dancing on a dance floor, like you're doing your thing and you're, if he's grinding on you, I'm gonna have a beef. Basically, if you know whether he's circumcised or not, I have beef. If you don't, then like, dude, I, there's nothing to trip out about. So I don't know. I'm not, I don't have the jealousy gene like that, so.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  Uh, so Marisha Dart was like, she got good genes, the woman in the video, so yes.

• 52:55Tom Bilyeu?

  She does.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 52:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Let's go.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  I would also like that commercial.

• 52:58Tom Bilyeu?

  You can't be mad.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  I would like that one. The number one app on the App Store was the T app.

• 53:02Tom Bilyeu?

  This is wild, dude.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  So the T is a woman-only app where users anonymously share info and warnings about men to spot red flags and get feedback.

• 53:10Tom Bilyeu?

  This post has forty-two point three million.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  And I want to say, I've seen this, I've seen this original post since then, people were getting hacked, doxxed, the profile pitches were leaked, like, the company.

• 53:24Tom Bilyeu?

  The women?

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Of the women, yeah. Uh, some anonymous screenshots were released, so people have been coming at this app, trying to see what's on the other side of it. Uh, so definitely not for doxxing or exposing personal info, so if there's anything like really shitty that it got to that point.

• 53:38Tom Bilyeu?

  I mean, that's basically all it's for.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:41Tom Bilyeu?

  So what do you mean it's not for that?

• 53:42Speaker 02

  No, like, people are now taking.

• 53:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Profiles on men insane.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  So then people are now going and taking the profiles of the women and saying, okay, these are where they are, and.

• 53:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, you're saying, I don't condone it, I don't want them to do it.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  I do, I was talking about it.

• 53:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Cheering for it.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  It's not a condone, yeah.

• 53:58Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yes, very true.

• 54:01Speaker 02

  It is interesting, though, how this app was received. I'll put it there.

• 54:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Uh, say more. What do you mean? Do you think this should have been received well and wasn't? Or should have been received poorly and was received well?

• 54:15Speaker 02

  I feel like, to me, I didn't understand the big, the fuss of it, because to me, this is digital gossip and women gossip. So I think it's the men, the women-only thing that kind of triggered some people, that they wanted to be a part of it, even though it was about them, like. There's, there's this thing sometimes when, when men aren't included at the table, they get like, well, how come? I should be there, I should be allowed to be there, it should be my, like, people are fighting to be a part of it, even though a lot of people that I think were upset probably weren't even being featured. So it was like this, like, outside looking in and then not understanding what's actually in there.

• 54:52Tom Bilyeu?

  It's interesting. I have a very different take on this. So I think this is a symptom of men and women are adversaries now. In the same way that we are in a populist moment from a political standpoint, we are in a similar tribal standpoint with men versus women. And it's not everybody, but certainly there's a large contingent of people that actually see the opposite sex as the enemy. And it is so toxic and so anti-evolution. This is going to continue to go wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. This is like the reddest of red flags for me, that this is happening.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  That the app was even created.

• 55:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, that the app was created, that men and women view each other like this. As they say, anybody who trades freedom for safety will have very little of either. So I get that women want, women understand that men are predators, some men, and that just is true. And women understand that they need protection from men, some men, again, that is true. But women seem blind to the fact that their form of violence is reputation savaging. And they have created an app that I think is far more designed to get back at men, or certainly that's how it will be used, designed to get back at men in a punitive

• 56:18Tom Bilyeu?

  fashion, than to actually be like, hey, watch out for this guy, this guy's lovely, whatever. Remember, people break up because something went wrong. And so this is all going to just be an endless stream of all the bad things about that guy. And so also, women would be in a terrible position if they were like big upping a guy who's legitimately at the top of the sexual market value, because he's already got his pick of women. So that's already going to piss people off. So he's going to have access, literally, a 10 guy has access to all 1 through 10 women. Uh, but a seven woman does not have access to like the full range of guys. She's only looking up, over and up, right?

• 57:02Tom Bilyeu?

  Because of something called hypergamy. So it's like this creates this really weird imbalance where a huge portion of guys have access to very few men, uh, women, excuse me. And then women are all fighting to get the top guys to commit, but they won't because they have access to all 10, you know, just on a scale of one to 10. So women would be in a better position to try to isolate a guy so they can get him for themselves. And once you understand this is how women have learned to move on evolutionary time scales in a society by playing these games. So there've been studies done, women who find other women to be a threat to them sexually will try to convince that woman to cut her hair short. Sit with that for a minute.

• 57:44Tom Bilyeu?

  So she is doing things that she knows lowers your sexual market value, all the while being like, yeah, yes, queen. You look awesome. So.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  But just so that way I can have a better chance at getting the partner I want.

• 57:57Tom Bilyeu?

  So look, dude, whenever, if you look at men and say, all men are evil, that's, that's very stupid. Life will be very confusing. If you look at women and go, women are all good, that's stupid. Life will be very confusing. You have to understand the ways in which men are violent and horrible. And you have to understand the ways in which women are violent and horrible. And then go, okay, cool. I get it. We're evolutionary creatures. So the instant somebody does red flaggy thing, I'm not going to freak out. I'm going to be like, I, okay, we all have red flags. There are going to be hard lines. Like if you get a sense of you lack safety, get out immediately. Thousand percent. Do whatever you need to, to get safe immediately.

• 58:41Tom Bilyeu?

  However, they're gonna, guys aren't, uh, women. They process the world differently than you. They act differently than you. They think differently than you. And if you want a man, you have to understand, oh, they're going to be like that. If you want to be, if you're a guy and you want to be with a woman, you have to understand they're going to parse the world differently than you. The most frustrating period of my marriage was when I expected my wife to act like me. And I didn't realize, oh, wait, she actually sees the world differently. That's why she's making different choices. She doesn't see the world the way that I see the world and is making a different choice. She sees the world differently and makes a choice that's in alignment with that. Then all of a sudden I was like, oh, I need to learn about how women think. And obviously they're not all going to be the same. I understand that, but like women have a nature.

• 59:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Once you understand their nature, then it's like, oh, my wife will deviate from this, but only so far. And now I have a much better understanding of how she's processing the world. So I'm not making just dumb rookie mistakes. So anyway, seeing my wife as an adversary would be a huge mistake. I see her as a partner who should not, who is more valuable to the partnership because she thinks differently. Then she would be if we thought the same. We need to have the same core values. That's very important and we spend a lot of time making sure that first of all, that we started with roughly very similar core values and over time we've shaped each other to make sure that we share core values moving into the future. But yeah, seeing each other as the enemy is wacky. All right, everybody, it is that time.

• 1:00:10Tom Bilyeu?

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