Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging

While everyone seems obsessed with protein intake, could the true secret to better health be something most Americans are ignoring? In this Fitness Friday episode, I talk with Kris Gethin about the importance of fiber and why we all need it. We also dive into longevity hacks like how Gethin reduced his biological age to 26 years old, why a 10-day silent meditation retreat was his most challenging but effective longevity practice, and the benefits of peptides like epitalon for telomere health. Kris Gethin, a renowned transformation expert and entrepreneur, has revolutionized the fitness industry with his no-nonsense, results-driven approach to bodybuilding and coaching. As the founder of Unmatched Supps and former CEO of Kaged Muscle, he has established himself as a pioneering force in the supplement industry while developing the innovative DTP (Dramatic Transformation Principle) training method. What we discuss: The importance of fiber in diet (95% of Americans don't get enough) Why fiber should be prioritized over protein for better nutrient absorption Biohacks for reversing biological age Kris's 10-day Vipassana silent meditation retreat experience How Kris reduced his biological age to 26 years old EMF mitigation practices EBO2 blood filtration therapy for removing toxins Perspective on NAD supplementation (preferring trickle dosing over IV Thank you to our sponsor: Therasage: Head over to therasage.com http://therasage.com/ and use code Be Bold for 15% off TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com http://truniagen.com/ and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www http://www/.magicmind.com http://magicmind.com//jen and use code Jen at checkout. Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com http://airdoctorpro.com/ and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Bio.me: Link to daily prebiotic fiber here https://bio.me/?utm_source=Jennifer, code Jennifer20 for 20% off. Momentous: Shop this link https://www.livemomentous.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorDUIZz3psr1Qsq_n1yE8_6JTq_QUFabOO9lH65HDEXCIoJOPLj and use code Jen for 20% off To learn more about Kris Gethin: Website: https://www.krisgethin.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/krisgethin/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/krisgethin Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Hi guys, this is Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.

• 0:08Jen Cohen?

  Today on Fitness Friday, we have fitness expert Chris Gethin. And he reveals why fiber, not protein, is the nutrient 95% of Americans are missing. He also shares how he hacked his biological age down to 26 using peptides, hyperbaric oxygen, and a 10-day silent meditation. He is the founder of Unmatched Supplements and the Dramatic Transformation Principle. Chris delivers powerful longevity hacks that go way beyond supplements. So let's dive in.

• 0:50Jen Cohen?

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• 1:35Jen Cohen?

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• 2:14Jen Cohen?

  I just did a podcast yesterday about this because one of the girls who was on my podcast, besides doing a lot of other things, she founded this company called BioMe, which is this like fiber supplement, right? Which, you know, she sent me a bunch of it because I didn't realize that, she said that 95% of Americans are not getting enough fiber in their diet.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, correct.

• 2:38Jen Cohen?

  And it's such an important macronutrient. I find it interesting because right now it's super trendy to talk about protein and people are not talking about fiber. But fiber is so important to your diet, to your diet plan.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, 100%. Americans in particular focus, like you said, so much on protein. Now, that's not always clean protein. It could be like, you know, hot dogs, for instance. You know, it's gonna be some sort of processed protein or burgers. But the thing is, when you're having protein, now that ferments in your gut, in your colon, and that can cause issues. That's why it is essential to have fiber to ensure that you're cleaning this out constantly. So fiber should always come first. That's why I have clients eat that first from their plate. You know, ensure that you're, you know, getting a rainbow, for instance. But not everybody wants to eat vegetables. Okay, then you supplement with

• 3:34Speaker 02

  fiber. That's gonna be the next best thing. Much like a lot of people are deficient in, let's say, magnesium. Nearly everybody is deficient in fiber. You know, that should always be a priority. Not first, not your protein. Because if you're taking in, if, let's say you're cleaning out your colon, then of course, your body is going to absorb so much more of that protein anyway. So you don't have to have such a huge amount of protein just to be satisfied for, let's say, muscle gaining purposes. It's what you absorb that matters, not what you take in. And you'll absorb so much more when you have more fiber in your diet.

• 4:13Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, um, that's why I'm glad that you mentioned that because we don't hear that every day. We hear a lot about protein. We kind of it's like this is the this is the world we live in. Right. It's all about social media and people, you know, glom onto something and that becomes the Bible. And people and then forget about everything else. Right. Um, okay. I wanted to ask you about, uh, basically reversing your biological age because you said you talk a lot about that at these these conferences. So I I know what you're gonna say already. I mean, sleep incredibly important, right? Eating enough fiber, obviously, exercising. What are some ways we can reverse? What's like the best ways we can, besides what I just said, we can reverse our biological age?

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, so there's a there's a few things. If we're gonna be talking about, you know, what we can do in everyday life. I like to try to look at things in equanimity. So I'm not trying to be so judgmental or reactionary. That's one thing. Number two, put down the phone more, bookend your day. Don't use it for a good hour in the morning and don't use it for an hour before bed. Because you're constantly releasing dopamine all the time. And with that dopamine, a lot of the time comes cortisol. And that cortisol is a a hormone that can lead to heart disease, stress, and then that will shorten our lifespan. And of course, there's other things that we can talk about as well.

• 5:35Jen Cohen?

  Talk about all that. You don't have to talk about like, I want you to talk about like, things that you've seen scientifically or through your your the lens of your world that actually do reverse the biological. Like you can, you can, it doesn't, it could be any biohack. It could be whatever. I want things that like, in your opinion, actually reverse your biological age.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Okay, all right. So we were talking about injectables earlier. So Epitalon, the peptide Epitalon. Some of your listeners may have heard of that. Taking that a couple of times a year will help with the prevention of the shorten shortening of your telomeres. That has been shown. So Epitalon twice a year. And then, of course, as people out there do Metformin, Metformin could be a good alternative, unless they can get that. Unless they're taking like a dihydroberbin, for instance, metformin is gonna be a little stronger. Rapamycin.

• 6:29Jen Cohen?

  By the way, oh, I was gonna ask you about that. Okay, continue.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, so rapamycin, taking five grams of that per week. Um, so you basically take five tablets, five tablets once a week of rapamycin. That's, that's another thing.

• 6:46Jen Cohen?

  How does that work? I saw that on some, wasn't it Brian Johnson was saying that? And it was like, isn't it kind of, there's not enough, there's not enough like data on that. Is, can it be dangerous or?

• 6:57Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't think it can be dangerous, but yeah, it is fringe. There's, there's no doubt about it. You know, I know he does gene therapy as well. I wouldn't say it's as dangerous as the potential of gene therapy. You know, that's a lot more invasive.

• 7:09Jen Cohen?

  True.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  You know, hyperbaric oxygen, we've shown, you know, that really helps with the recuperation and the healing of all of our organs. So I'd say hyperbaric oxygen, if you can throw that in there. You know, the one thing that I'd say, I've been able to reduce my biological age every year since two thousand fourteen, it was exceeding my chronological age. And I've reduced it now to twenty six years old. And I honestly believe the biggest thing out of all these things that I've just given a shotgun approach to has been sleep, because I wasn't sleeping before. I was sleeping a few hours a night. I had mold toxicity that I didn't know about, but got that cured. And the other thing was just being a lot more.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  Like I said, looking at things in equanimity. So I did a ten day vipassana, silent retreat, where you are, you know, you can't make eye contact. You know, you, you don't take anything in to read. You certainly don't have your phone. It's just you, and you don't make eye contact with anybody else. You're meditating from six o'clock in the morning till eight o'clock in the evening. You have two breaks, you know? On the fifth day, most people leave because it is so difficult, because your thoughts are coming into your head, you know, all the stresses from the past, all the worries about the future. But if you really stick it out, that was probably the hardest thing that I've ever had to do. But then after a while, all these emotions just come above and you look at everything in perfect equanimity,

• 8:39Speaker 02

  where you're not judging yourself or anybody else and you're able to really lower your stress levels. And obviously, you know, you're looking at everything in a much calmer state and you're in a parasympathetic state. I really think that has been the biggest impact, that and sleep, for reducing my biological age. You know, and of course, you can measure your biological age with telomeres, methylation, the Horvath clot, glycans, whatever. What I would suggest is that you measure it and then measure it every year to ensure that you're able to bring it down.

• 9:10Jen Cohen?

  That's amazing. So you basically went on this 10 day silent retreat and that was, that's the biggest hack really for your age.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  I believe, I believe, you know, like I'll gra, I'll earth every day, you know, I have EMF mitigating devices. I had Brian Hoyer come to my house from Shielded Healing to ensure that there wasn't any dirty electricity in the house. You know, I have one of those Defender Shield fanny packs or phone cases on me at all times. So there are certain hacks that I do as well as that, but I think those were the two biggest. You know, you can't buy that.

• 9:42Jen Cohen?

  Right, you can't, that was what I was gonna say, like you had to do the actual hard work of doing it. That wasn't for sale, because that's hard to do.

• 9:52Speaker 02

  Very, very difficult. Like I said, the majority of people don't stick it out.

• 9:56Jen Cohen?

  So how many, how long were the breaks? Like in this, if every day, how long did you get for a break?

• 10:01Speaker 02

  So you had thirty minutes in the morning at around, I think it was like, uh, ten o'clock, ten thirty. Then there was another one about one o'clock for an hour and then you'd have another one in the evening about six o'clock. For about thirty minutes, for thirty minutes.

• 10:16Jen Cohen?

  So what time did they make you start the?

• 10:19Speaker 02

  Six o'clock in the morning and you finish at eight o'clock in the evening.

• 10:22Jen Cohen?

  So what are you doing? When you're doing these, basically when you're doing these fourteen hour meditations a day with only a couple breaks, where are you doing it? Are you on a mountaintop? Are you in a room by yourself? Like, where are you?

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, so they have them all around the world, but I did it in Idaho, which was about a five hour drive from here. And yeah, you're in the middle of nowhere, but you're actually in a hall. You have a place where obviously you stay and then you walk about five minutes to the actual hall where everybody is within this hall in meditation. You'll have a guided meditation to begin with. So S N Guenka is the person who who started the Vipassana retreats. He's based out of India. He's passed away now, but that's carried on. It's just grown and grown and grown. So you start off with the guided meditation, but then you go into your own silence. And you know, that's the most difficult thing because you have

• 11:19Speaker 02

  no distraction. We're so used to some type of distraction, whether it be noise, whether it be light or, you know, interaction or reading, answering, etc. So it's very difficult to be alone with your own thoughts. But I think it's absolutely essential, particularly in the environment that we live in today. Like, I remember when I came out, when I drove back, I noticed everything that I didn't notice on the way there. I'm looking at the clouds, the mountain tops. When I was walking to and from the hall the last few days, now I'm hearing the wind. I'm noticing the grass, just different things like that that you just never notice and you take for granted. But I remember having to stop in a gas station

• 12:02Speaker 02

  and just hearing the music and people in there. It took a long time to kind of get back to civilization because, you know, we're just so used to the artificial lights. We're so used to the noise and the distraction, especially with our phones today, that I think it's just releasing too much cortisol and too much dopamine.

• 12:22Jen Cohen?

  Totally agree. Are you on this replemycin? Do you take it?

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Yes, once a week.

• 12:27Jen Cohen?

  Once a week. And do you take this epitalin peptide to shorten your telomeres?

• 12:32Speaker 02

  Twice a year.

• 12:33Jen Cohen?

  Twice a year. So you do all of these things, hyperbaric. Have you tried gene therapy?

• 12:38Speaker 02

  No, I haven't tried gene therapy. I'm not willing to do that just yet.

• 12:42Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  You know, I'll do, I've done EBO2. I don't know if you know what EBO2 is. I think Darshan may do it at his clinic. I've done it in London a couple of times. It completely cleans your blood. It'll separate your plasma from the blood. So it'll get rid of like mycotoxins, microplastics, any toxicity that you'll have in your blood. So you've actually got an IV in your left arm, IV in your right arm. It takes about 90 minutes, I believe, to completely filter your entire body. And you actually can see in a vat what comes out. If, for instance, that you, you know, you've got obviously a lot of toxicity buildup, you see it there. Luckily, when I did it, it wasn't that bad as my friend, Tim Gray, who puts on the Health Optimization Summit.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  When he did it, I was like, okay, that's pretty bad. But luckily, mine wasn't as bad. But he lives in London. I live in Boise. You know, maybe that's something to do with it.

• 13:34Jen Cohen?

  Wow. So did you feel after you got that done? Did you feel different? Did you feel more, I don't know, did you feel healthier? Did you feel cleaner? Did you feel like less brain fog or alert?

• 13:48Speaker 02

  That's what I was gonna say, less brain fog and I was able to sleep better. The quality of my sleep increased. You know, obviously, a lot of us measure our sleep. And I noticed that my, my, my sleep got better and like I had better brain cloudy. Kind of like, not like a nootropic, but somebody had just kind of brushed out all the cobwebs in my brain.

• 14:07Jen Cohen?

  And so is that dangerous?

• 14:08Speaker 02

  No, I don't believe so because you're still, you know, you've still got your healthy, you know, your blood cells, your plasma put back in, you know? So I don't believe it is. It's just cleaning out all the toxicity.

• 14:18Jen Cohen?

  Does it hurt?

• 14:19Speaker 02

  No, it's absolutely fine. It's like giving blood, you know? I try to give blood every three months as well.

• 14:24Jen Cohen?

  Wow. Okay, how expensive is it?

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Um, I believe it cost about fifteen hundred pounds. So I'd say probably be about eighteen hundred dollars.

• 14:32Jen Cohen?

  Wow. How often should people get that done? Like, how long does it last?

• 14:37Speaker 02

  I guess it all depends on your lifestyle and where you live. Like, if you live a real clean lifestyle, I can't imagine you'd need to do it any more than, you know, uh, you know, once every three or four years. But if you leave, live more of an unhealthy lifestyle, or if you're in an environment that is potentially toxic, then probably every year.

• 14:57Jen Cohen?

  Wow. What's your take on NAD IVs?

• 15:01Speaker 02

  So I'm not into NAD IVs and I'll tell you why. I prefer like a trickle dose. So I will take an oral of a product called NAD Regen. Doesn't all, doesn't just have NAD3 in it, but it has like resveratrol. It has spermidine, it has vitamin C, it's got a lot of different things in there that helps niacinamide. But if you take a high dose, I believe. It's like saying at the end of the week, okay, I want you to eat your week's worth of protein. Well, your body's only going to assimilate so much. Not only that, we know that NAD can feed cancer, can, not, not will, it can. Like if you've got a genetic disposition for cancer, or maybe it runs in your family.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  You shouldn't do high dose NAD. So I always suggest like a trickle dose. For instance, you know, you could take it orally, you could inject it subcutaneously. Like two days on, one day on, one day on, one day off, whatever it may be. If you're travelling and you're under a lot more stress, maybe you're going to take it every day. I believe that's the more efficacious way of doing it. I get the majority of my clients to just take the oral format of convenience.