A THESPIAN Ft. Reece Feldman | Episode 178

Reece Feldman (aka @guywithamoviecamera) is here this week!! Drew and Reece unpack red carpet interviews, his Letterboxd Top 4, being a PA on Real Housewives, his new short film "Wait, Your Car?" and so much more! Reece IG: https://www.instagram.com/guywithamoviecamera/?hl=en Reece Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@guywithamoviecamera?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Good News for Great Hair: The Best Haircare is at Sephora. https://www.sephora.com/shop/hair-products Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:32Speaker 01

  Conservatives are obsessed with actors that play military men. I'm like, these are theater kids and they're wearing pants and makeup.

• 0:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you have no idea.

• 0:40Speaker 01

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• 0:41Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 0:48Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show. Sorry, me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the cinephile himself, guy with a movie camera, AKA Reece Feldman.

• 1:06Drew Afualo?

  Welcome to the show, Reese.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  Hey, how's it going?

• 1:09Drew Afualo?

  Good, how are you?

• 1:10Speaker 01

  I'm all right. I was really debating up until this point whether or not to keep staring in the camera.

• 1:16Drew Afualo?

  Right, we did talk about that.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, for like an hour straight.

• 1:20Drew Afualo?

  It's a real Kubrick kind of thing.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, straight down the barrel. Yeah, look at that, yeah.

• 1:24Drew Afualo?

  I know all about your tea.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's great. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we could end it here. That's all I wanted to talk about, was the Kubrick stare. Yeah, that's great. Overall, eh, okay.

• 1:35Drew Afualo?

  Not bad. Surviving.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  It can always be better.

• 1:39Drew Afualo?

  True, right, the world's burning around us.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, it feels weird when people ask, like, how are you? I'm like, eh.

• 1:45Drew Afualo?

  All things considered?

• 1:46Speaker 01

  All things, like, I'm okay, but like, that doesn't really, yeah.

• 1:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it feels like a very double-edged question to answer nowadays, especially.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's been like that now for like... A decade.

• 1:57Drew Afualo?

  Right, for real.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59Drew Afualo?

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• 2:38Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 2:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, how are you? Me and Reece, we see each other all the time at work stuff.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  I know, we're always passing ships in the night.

• 2:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  So it's, it's really nice to actually sit down and chat.

• 2:47Drew Afualo?

  That is nice.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48Drew Afualo?

  We have so, like, we've crossed paths many times, always on the biggest carpets in the world.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  Always, yeah, never, never without, like, many sets of eyes around.

• 2:59Drew Afualo?

  Literally.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:00Drew Afualo?

  And I, you know what's funny? I would love to know, like, how has your experience on carpets been? Has it gotten better over the years?

• 3:06Speaker 01

  I'm always think I'm fine. And then what will happen is, I'll, like, someone will, like, tag me in a video. And they're like, ha, ha, ha. And then it's at me. And then I, like, see myself, like, twitching or something, or like, talking to myself.

• 3:20Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  I'm like, no one was supposed to see that. So, like, overall, fine. Cause I'm like, that's usu-, like, that's what you get. But like, no, I'm like, I'm kind of okay with it.

• 3:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we're getting used to it.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's also, it's nice. Everyone's just there to, like, support and uplift whatever work of art you're there for. So I'm like, eh, it's also not about me.

• 3:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. So that kind of takes pressure off a little bit.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm, I'm okay.

• 3:48Drew Afualo?

  They're not checking for you, Reece?

• 3:49Speaker 01

  No, no one's really like, where is he? I'm like...

• 3:53Drew Afualo?

  I disagree, Reece. You know so many people now, especially on those carpets, I feel like a lot of times they're asking for you. Checking for you. They're like, where, well, where's Reece at?

• 4:00Speaker 01

  I do, I like to wander, so that...

• 4:02Drew Afualo?

  You do?

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that, that tends to, to be like an actual question.

• 4:06Drew Afualo?

  That must be nice. They would shoot me dead if I started wandering.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I just, I'm like, I need to go to the bathroom.

• 4:11Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  And then I'm gone.

• 4:12Drew Afualo?

  That's smart, that is smart. I've used that too. When I'm like, I need to use the restroom. And I just start wandering a little bit.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  No, exactly. There's, yeah, there's doors that say, do not open. I'm like, I need to see what's in there. That's probably fun.

• 4:23Drew Afualo?

  Obviously, got a peek in there. Well, obviously, I'm very familiar with your lore, but I know, obviously, how you started growing on TikTok. But like, what was your plan initially when you were going to school? I know, obviously, you're a huge film buff.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:35Drew Afualo?

  But what was your original plan?

• 4:36Speaker 01

  You're, are you twenty-eight or twenty-nine?

• 4:39Drew Afualo?

  Twenty-nine.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Twenty-nine, okay.

• 4:41Drew Afualo?

  What about you?

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Smart, smart. Um, I'm, I turned twenty-seven like, two weeks ago?

• 4:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:47Drew Afualo?

  Happy belated.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 4:48Drew Afualo?

  Are you a Gemini?

• 4:49Speaker 01

  I'm a Gemini, a May Gemini.

• 4:50Drew Afualo?

  T.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, which I hear is better than June Gemini.

• 4:54Drew Afualo?

  That is true, you're very right, that's very true.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  So I'm like, I'll take that, yeah. May Gemini is apparently not as bad.

• 4:59Drew Afualo?

  That's true, you're very right, that is true.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  But yeah, I graduated college in May of twenty twenty.

• 5:04Drew Afualo?

  Okay, oh damn.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Famously great time to graduate.

• 5:07Drew Afualo?

  Right, for real, yeah.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  So I started, after college, I started working in reality TV in the summer of twenty twenty.

• 5:14Drew Afualo?

  You in reality TV, that's hilarious.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was working on, yeah, do you watch reality TV?

• 5:20Drew Afualo?

  It depends on what it is. I'm not, I'm not like a Real Housewives kinda girl, but I-

• 5:24Speaker 01

  I worked on Real Housewives.

• 5:25Drew Afualo?

  You did?

• 5:27Drew Afualo?

  Not really a Housewives girl, but I do love-

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Me neither.

• 5:29Drew Afualo?

  Great British Baking Show.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  That's fun.

• 5:31Drew Afualo?

  Love that one. I love a good chopped.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the cooking ones, those are fun, yeah. But I, I worked in reality TV for a bit, and then I worked on The Marvelous Mrs Maisel.

• 5:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  And then, made a video there, which, in retrospect, should've got me fired, but didn't.

• 5:47Drew Afualo?

  Thankfully.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  For some, for me, yeah, thankfully, but, yeah, should've got me fired, didn't, and then, um, from there, yeah, just, uh, started working in film doing social in the film world, so that, and then, yeah, that's it.

• 6:01Drew Afualo?

  Was that like the strangest pivot ever for you, or were you, yeah, I bet, I bet, huh?

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, just, I mean, like, I don't know, social was not the goal, so, when it became my job in my life, then it was like, oh, I guess that's like a thing.

• 6:17Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  But like, I'm sure it's the same with you, where it's like-

• 6:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, hard left.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was just like a, a true ninety-degree pivot in-

• 6:26Drew Afualo?

  Literally.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:27Drew Afualo?

  And now, now look at you. Well, well, actually, I know a lot of the shit you've done, but I'd love to know what's been the coolest thing you've gotten to do? Cause you've done some pretty sick shit over the past, like, what, three years, three, four years?

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, you too. Uh, but like, personally, I think the coolest stuff I've done is the sets I get to work on. Like, I worked on the last Hunger Games set, that was really fun.

• 6:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's so cool.

• 6:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's been like a bunch of, like, I worked on the set of, uh, Scream Six, and I'm a big horror fan as the Exorcist, like.

• 6:57Drew Afualo?

  I wore this in honor of Reese, cause I knew he would dig it.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  The ugliest person ever.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  Truly.

• 7:03Drew Afualo?

  But first cinephile.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, but, um, it's such a good shirt. But yeah, I think like, working on sets like that have been really fun, just because I get to watch people that I grew up watching their movies work, which is kinda crazy, and like, getting to see filmmakers and actors that I admire work and like, see their process and like, not, and like, as, not as equals, but like, in the same plateau, yeah, it's just odd. But like, then there's other things that like, when people find out I worked on Housewives, they're like, are you serious? Or like, the Met gal, or they're like, what?

• 7:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the Met's crazy too.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  It was hot in that pen.

• 7:43Drew Afualo?

  And you were fitted down.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Fitted, yep.

• 7:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  I, I, that was a, that was a good outfit.

• 7:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Tom Brown, okay.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, it was good, but also like, I don't know, uh, that, no one expects men to dr- like.

• 7:58Drew Afualo?

  Dress nicely.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:59Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna talk about your fits, cause you are fitted all the time, which I love.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  As are you. You, you have good dress.

• 8:03Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like, I don't know, like, if I'm not wearing a black suit, people think I'm like, really doing something.

• 8:11Drew Afualo?

  You're changing lives with your fashion.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  No, I'm like, it is literally just whatever designer being like, no one's worn this, can you just wear it? I'm like, yeah, sure. Yeah, kilt, wonderful, like, I'm happy to wear whatever, why, why, yeah, why not?

• 8:25Drew Afualo?

  I think that's what's so cool about it though, is that you don't really, you're not sticking to any sort of gender norms when it comes to carpets, and I think that's fun.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  No, and also. Like I

• 8:35Drew Afualo?

  Their clothes, who cares?

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I truly don't understand it.

• 8:38Drew Afualo?

  Me neither.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  There's a lot of things I don't get, where I'm like, why does it matter? And I'm like, this fits better than this, and this

• 8:44Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Looks nicer, so yeah.

• 8:46Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, insane.

• 8:48Drew Afualo?

  Well, when it comes to working on the sets and everything,

• 8:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:51Drew Afualo?

  Like, what would you say is like your favorite genre to work in? If you could pick one? It has to be horror, right? Cause you're a short film.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 9:00Drew Afualo?

  Yes, which we will talk about too.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Oh, cool, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, horror, just because I like special effects. So it's really fun watching how they shoot death scenes and stuff like that.

• 9:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  Cause although it seems really cool in movies, it's just a very methodical process.

• 9:14Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Where it's like, if someone gets stabbed and blood comes out,

• 9:17Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  You have to reset, and the blood, like, pattern, the splatter on the shirt, then has to be matched for continuity in the next scene. So it's like, it is a very technical process and not very, like, scary or horrific. It is actually like a, you have to be very anal about every single thing.

• 9:36Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  And I really, and yeah, that's, I choose the most boring part of horror films.

• 9:40Drew Afualo?

  That's what's the most fascinating.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  The most fascinating thing is like how lame it is. Where I'm like, it truly, there's nothing is left, like, things are left to chance, but like, it is an exact science.

• 9:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  And it is like, the stunt performers are like doing it like dance choreography, and it has, they have to hit their marks.

• 9:57Drew Afualo?

  That's so cool.

• 9:58Speaker 01

  That's what I like.

• 9:59Drew Afualo?

  That's sick. What's your favorite horror film? Is it The Exorcist?

• 10:01Speaker 01

  No, The Thing.

• 10:03Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Which asks the question, what if there was a Thing? Which, I'm like, oh man, that's frickin' brilliant.

• 10:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  No, it's just about, it's about a bunch of guys that are paranoid. And I'm like, brilliant, that's, it's great, the, all these guys-

• 10:15Drew Afualo?

  Genius.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, all these guys are like, wait a minute, you could be the Thing. And he's like, I'm not the Thing, it's probably you. And I'm like, oh man, like, that's, that's just cinema.

• 10:24Drew Afualo?

  Now we're really cooking.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  But it's great, cause it literally, I genuinely think, and like- People are like, it is a movie that doesn't have any women in it.

• 10:33Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  And I'm like, it actually makes perfect sense that a movie with like fifteen guys, spoiler alert, ends with everyone dying.

• 10:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Where I'm like, yeah, that checks out.

• 10:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  There's not a single person there that is able to like calm everyone down or like just talk sensibly.

• 10:49Drew Afualo?

  Think logically.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  And it's like, it really is a great like, I like, yes, it was like, people hated it at the time it came out, but I'm like, it is a very smart text and I absolutely love it.

• 10:59Drew Afualo?

  It's like Witches, the movie Witches.

• 11:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, one that was like hated when it first came out.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, the classic. Most of my favorite movies tend to have not been liked when they were released. Yeah. What are some of your favorites? Cause I'm like, I'm a horror guy, but.

• 11:14Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, yeah, I know. I don't love, I actually, I think when I got older, I was like, I was more appreciative of horror.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:20Drew Afualo?

  Uh, because I was just, I'm just a huge scaredy cat, so I'm just afraid of everything.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  My girlfriend can't watch horror.

• 11:25Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. That's like, I'm.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  She, Wikipedia's the end.

• 11:27Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 11:29Drew Afualo?

  I swear to God.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  I thought it was. She was like, pause it and then like has to like pull up the Wikipedia and like, no, no.

• 11:35Drew Afualo?

  Please tell her she has Community in me.

• 11:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 11:38Drew Afualo?

  Because I, I do that and my fiance goes, why are you doing that? Cause he sees me go like this and he's like, don't look up the ending.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  I, I'm the same way. Yeah, and she's like, okay, well, this person dies. I'm like, I didn't know that, like.

• 11:50Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God, I'm feeling so seen by her right now. I'm feeling so seen.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  She, no, like we, I was like, we should start with like a fun one. Let's watch Scream.

• 11:57Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  And like, which is like a comedy more than is a horror film.

• 12:00Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  She starts like, it's funny when she gets scared, uh, she's gonna be so mad I'm sharing this, sorry. When she gets scared, she's not like cowering. She like almost starts to vomit.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  So like someone like pops out and she goes, uh.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  I find really funny.

• 12:16Drew Afualo?

  That's so real. She's so real for that. I watched Scream for the first time, I think, when I started doing this. I got invited to something with Captain Morgan in like the Hollywood Cemetery. And so we watched it on like a wall and everything there.

• 12:28Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 12:29Drew Afualo?

  So that, that experience itself was really fun.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  Seeing, yeah.

• 12:31Drew Afualo?

  And I had a lot of fun watching it.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Was the captain there?

• 12:34Drew Afualo?

  The captain was not present.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 12:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but I was, but I was. And I had, I had a blast watching it. I would say my favorite movie, one of my favorite movies of all time is Stand By Me.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  I love Stand By Me. I love Stephen King.

• 12:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  I'm currently reading It, which I've never read.

• 12:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh, you never read the, never read the book?

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Cause it's like twelve hundred pages or something. So I was like, I'll read this one summer and this is the summer I read it.

• 12:59Drew Afualo?

  I've watched, yeah.

• 13:00Speaker 01

  Rocks.

• 13:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's such a great film. That's probably one of my favorite movies of all time. In horror, even though it scared the fuck out of me for real, for real, I really loved Hereditary. It scared me to my core. I haven't felt like that in a movie, oh my god, ever.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  That's a movie that genuinely like upset me. Cause normally I have a lot of fun with horror, but like I, after watching that, I turned it off and I was like, man, I don't feel good.

• 13:22Drew Afualo?

  No, same.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  And it's also just such a credit to that movie that like is like, like triggers something in me where I'm like, that should not be scary.

• 13:32Drew Afualo?

  No, for real, like, or like make a chill go down my spine when I hear it.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Legitimately great. And also just Toni Collette, uh, yelling at her son. Fantastic.

• 13:41Drew Afualo?

  Unbelievable. Honestly, and I think we've kind of talked about this, cause I truly believe you'll be nominated for an Oscar one day. But I think, I think it would be wonderful for horror to make its way into the Academy too.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  That.

• 13:53Drew Afualo?

  And I think that would be great for you.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  That would be, that would be great for me. I don't know. I, I'm curious. Maybe, I would love, like, the goal in life is a posthumous lifetime achievement award. So that I don't have to go on stage or do anything.

• 14:08Drew Afualo?

  That's so real.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:09Drew Afualo?

  You just kind of sit there.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  My life goal is to die and then be honored. But, um, yeah.

• 14:14Drew Afualo?

  In memoriam.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, like a black and white photo of me and like people in the crowd are like, oh, that's, oh, yeah.

• 14:19Drew Afualo?

  Oh, they're like.

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Oh, that was a few months ago. I forgot he died.

• 14:22Drew Afualo?

  You had that gentle applause.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. They cut to like one person's single tear and like, I come off.

• 14:28Drew Afualo?

  From beyond, you're like, exactly.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Go. I'm looking up, I'm like, yeah.

• 14:34Drew Afualo?

  When I was in college, I took a film class, cause I had to for one of my communications like requirements. And I think my teacher had a like, a favorite in horror, because all we watched was horror. And I was like, I felt like I was like, almost practicing, like getting over my fear of scary movies.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Horror, horror is great. And like. It is, I think, the best genre to talk about what is going on in the world.

• 14:59Drew Afualo?

  That's true, yeah, that's so true.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  It's the best genre to comment on whatever.

• 15:03Drew Afualo?

  That's true, yeah.

• 15:04Speaker 01

  And it could be enjoyed through that lens, or it doesn't have to be. Like, you can watch whatever horror, like Hereditary. You could watch Hereditary and be like, this is scary. Or you could be like, oh, like familial trauma is real. And like, watch it through that.

• 15:17Drew Afualo?

  That's so true, yeah.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, and like, for the thing, my favorite, it's like paranoia. Like, that is a very real thing. And like, I view it in terms of like, watching the thing after COVID. Uh, and seeing like, people being like, where were you? I didn't have my eyes on you. What have you been doing? I'm like, yeah, that checks out. And like, but you could also just enjoy it as like, oh, these guys suck.

• 15:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, something campy and weird.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly, which I love, yeah.

• 15:43Drew Afualo?

  That's real. Well, and speaking of, we'll pivot back to your short film. Which I'm super excited and honored that you sent it to me.

• 15:50Speaker 01

  Did you watch it?

• 15:51Drew Afualo?

  Yes, well, yes, and my whole, my team, my friends, well, Amanda and Carrie and my sister also partook.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Did they watch it?

• 15:57Drew Afualo?

  Yes, yeah, we had a viewing party.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  No way!

• 16:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we had a big old viewing party.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Did you enjoy it?

• 16:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Okay, sweet.

• 16:07Drew Afualo?

  Also, we have to say collectively as a group, visually stunning.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 16:11Drew Afualo?

  Coloring, beautiful.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  Thank you, yeah, shout out to Caitlin Baselli. She is the colorist, and shout out to my DP, Shane Bagwell.

• 16:19Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Who shot it, but yeah. I, I'm glad you guys liked, that would have been so awkward if you're like, it was cool.

• 16:25Drew Afualo?

  It was alright.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  It was alright.

• 16:27Drew Afualo?

  It was a movie for sure.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  It was a...

• 16:30Drew Afualo?

  Definitely a short film.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that was... I've never seen anything like that.

• 16:36Drew Afualo?

  But, uh, tell me about the short film, tell me about Wait Your Car.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, it, it's a story about four girls, uh, and one of them thinks that her car is trying to kill her.

• 16:45Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  That's, that's it. Um, it goes from my, uh, love and hatred of cars. Uh, I like the way cars look, but I, I don't like them. I don't like that we have to rely on them.

• 16:57Drew Afualo?

  That's, I mean, that's true, yeah.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like, I, for me, it was just the thinking of like, what's the craziest thing someone could tell me that I probably wouldn't, like, believe? Which is like, if someone told me like their car is alive, I'd be like, no.

• 17:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Wrong.

• 17:10Drew Afualo?

  Right, you're all, okay, Sam Witwicky.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, or I'm like, yeah, yeah. Nice fucking pull, Sam Witwicky.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  What? Thank you. Where'd you pull that out of?

• 17:22Drew Afualo?

  I'm just a huge Transformers fan.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  No, no, I love that. Yeah, no. Shout out to the Sam Wit Wiki heads.

• 17:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's for all.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  But no, I, it was, it was that. I wanted to make a story about someone that has, has trouble believing her friend. So I just wanted it to be about that.

• 17:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 17:44Speaker 01

  Not so much about, I, cause to be honest, uh, I don't really care if the car is alive. I don't know, like, people are like, what is the motivation of this car? And I'm like, I don't know, it's a fucking living car. Like it's, why are we asking the perpetrator what, like, why? And it's like, no, it makes no difference why the car is a killer car or not.

• 18:04Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  But like, yeah, that was the goal. And also just to make something that's kind of fun.

• 18:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, that was-

• 18:09Speaker 01

  I just like stuff that's fun.

• 18:10Drew Afualo?

  We were also theorizing too on allegories, weren't we, Amanda? We were like, maybe it's an allegory on whether or not you believe victims.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Thank you. Okay, yeah.

• 18:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we picked up what you were putting down.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Perfect. Cause yeah, there are people who are like, is this a commentary on AI and like smart cars? I was like, no, it's a 2002 Honda Ford.

• 18:28Drew Afualo?

  It's not about the car.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  It's not about the car. But no, it is exactly that. Where it's just like, yeah, uh, sometimes like if your friend who is a pretty sane person comes to you with a story that maybe, maybe you should listen.

• 18:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:43Drew Afualo?

  Like you should empathize and listen, yeah.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  And that's the thing that I was talking about, like with horror. I don't think it's a scary short by any means, but like, no, it's, it's a genre.

• 18:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  Short. So I'm like, no, I just wanted it to be like, yeah, you could enjoy it as like, oh, this is silly, this is campy and it's fun. And the cast is like cool and stuff. Or you could enjoy it as like an allegory.

• 19:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Well, that's what we were all theorizing.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  Well, you guys are right.

• 19:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Okay, perfect. I'm so glad. I love being right. I'm a Virgo, so I love being right. But when we were-

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Are you into astrology?

• 19:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  Like very, okay.

• 19:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I, I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I do know quite a bit.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. What, what is your girlfriend's sign?

• 19:19Speaker 01

  She's July 3rd. She's a Cancer.

• 19:22Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Are you serious? Do you know who else is July 3rd? Tom Cruise.

• 19:29Drew Afualo?

  Two film buffs.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  The triumphant.

• 19:32Drew Afualo?

  Only one will survive.

• 19:33Speaker 01

  And TC.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  But the annoying thing about the cancer sign is you can't, I got Aaliyah a patch which just said cancer on it. And I was like, I literally bought it. I was like, they were like, do you need a receipt? I was like, nah. I walked out of the store. I was like, I should have got a receipt.

• 19:53Drew Afualo?

  Actually, I should get a gift receipt probably.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  I shouldn't have bought a patch that said, yeah. That, but like, yeah, that was on me.

• 20:01Drew Afualo?

  Well, you're back to, back to our theories about your film. We were also, uh, another theory we were floating was that it, the car could have represented an abusive partner, right? Or something? Which I think is us maybe going in too far in the weeds, but.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  No, I, I have, I gave it like, when I was like talking to the cast about this, I was like, I, there's a full backstory to the car. And like, um, Minnie, who plays Lucy in the short, who is the quote unquote victim in it. We discussed more of that history and backstory of her, but like, I won't confirm nor deny, but I'm like, it, the car can represent.

• 20:38Drew Afualo?

  And many things. Yeah, that's true.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is some, this is a car that she knows and they all know.

• 20:46Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. That's what they were saying too. We were saying, Carrie and Amanda were both saying the same thing. Like this is a car she's known, she trusts, has used for years, like that kind of thing.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:55Drew Afualo?

  So.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  It's comfortable. It's, everyone knows it. It's comfortable. Like it's comfortable. Yeah, it's.

• 21:00Drew Afualo?

  We were, we were picking it up. We got it, Reese.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  I'm glad. Yeah. I need to talk to your sister about it.

• 21:05Drew Afualo?

  Yes, please do.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'll see what she logged in on Letterboxd. Be like, one and a half stars. Uninspired. I'll be like, why would you write that?

• 21:16Drew Afualo?

  Is your Letterboxd public?

• 21:17Speaker 01

  My Letterboxd is public.

• 21:18Drew Afualo?

  Okay, that's good. I don't have one at all, but.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  That's probably smart.

• 21:24Drew Afualo?

  I heard it's the new thing though.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  More and more that I'm like, I need to be careful.

• 21:29Drew Afualo?

  What I be doing on here?

• 21:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I also rarely give anything a bad, too much work goes into things for me to.

• 21:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're too empathetic for your own good.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  I'm just like, everyone's trying their best, like, who am I, like, even if it's not made for me, like.

• 21:43Drew Afualo?

  I think that too about a lot of things that are in the art genre, it's very like, I, I talk to my friends about it a lot, I'm like, art is made, the point of making art is to make art, it's not for it to be like, to give you anything, it's not supposed to give you accolades, it's not supposed to give you money, it's supposed to, the joy is in the making of it and putting art out in the world, so I totally get that vibe, where you're kind of like, well, people are trying their best, someone, something for everyone.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Like, imagine with like, your podcast, like, yes, it's probably great to win awards, but also like, if one person were to come up to you and be like, I love this, and it brings me a lot of joy when I'm done with work.

• 22:16Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 22:17Speaker 01

  What, like, what a, that's, that's all that matters.

• 22:19Drew Afualo?

  It's worth its weight in gold.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  Change the world, it could change one person's world.

• 22:22Drew Afualo?

  Exa- oh, that's so tea, I love that, I think that's so, how was it making the short film though?

• 22:26Speaker 01

  That's tea.

• 22:27Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:29Drew Afualo?

  And how was it making the short film, like, how was that for you?

• 22:31Speaker 01

  It was the first time I was in charge, which was wonderful.

• 22:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  What a, what a concept. Um, normally I have to answer to people.

• 22:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  So it was really cool to not. No, it was really nice, I, like, I've always wanted to write and direct. And I finally got to do it, so that's cool, and we had a screening in Cannes, which was fun, and now I'm submitting it.

• 22:57Drew Afualo?

  How fun, how exciting.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  It was great, and now I'm submitting it to like, the festival circuit, so that's the, that's the goal, like, cause my whole thing is like, I mean, I actually wanted to talk about this with you, cause I am like, I think social is, it's so interesting, cause it's so ever-changing, but like, I'm like, in a perfect world, like, if I won half a billion dollars, I would. Just start making movies and that would be it.

• 23:21Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  But I would never stop doing social because I enjoy it too much.

• 23:24Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 23:25Speaker 01

  It wouldn't, I wouldn't be reliant on it as income or business, but I would never want to stop.

• 23:30Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  I was curious with that with you or it's like.

• 23:34Drew Afualo?

  I, I feel the exact same way, to be honest with you. Yeah. And I think the, the longer we do this and the more we kind of move into other like facets of entertainment that aren't solely reliant on social.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:45Drew Afualo?

  And to be quite honest with you, that's kind of my goal. Is to not be a hundred percent reliant on social, like be able to do other things and then, but I've always said I'll never turn my back on the internet because it gave me everything I have today.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:58Drew Afualo?

  So I feel very grateful for it. That's what I mean. It's, it's fun to me in a way that's like, when it does become like full-time other things for me, I'll be able to do it even more just for fun.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  The perfect other things?

• 24:11Drew Afualo?

  I'm moving into acting this year.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  How's that?

• 24:15Drew Afualo?

  It's so far, it's pretty fun. It is kind of silly. I feel like the casting process is so different for so many different people. Like it's the way that they cast, like some people will cast purely off looks. Some people will cast based off skill. Some will do kind of split the difference. It's very like, it's hard to predict. It's almost like algorithms. Like you can't really predict. You can only survive.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  I, I feel like there's a thing where it's like, some people have a very set idea of

• 24:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  who they want and like, which can be a shortcoming if it's like, if it's not this exact type of person.

• 24:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  They're just not going to think of anyone else.

• 24:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no matter what you do, it's not going to shake the image they had, which I was i- i- in a way, maybe it's weird in a way, but it makes me feel better about it because I'm like, okay, so then it's all kind of made up. Yeah, it's all kind of made up then.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:02Drew Afualo?

  It's like, okay, well then I'll just catch someone on a good day.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:06Drew Afualo?

  And I'll just do it that way.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  Have you been auditioning?

• 25:08Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I have been.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  Has it been fun?

• 25:09Drew Afualo?

  It, it's been really cool. It's been such a new environment for me. I'm getting an acting coach and everything too, because I really want to like develop and hone skill and all of that.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  It's, yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like that's something that a lot of people don't like when there's like stories about like, oh, they had to hire an acting coach for the actor. It's like, no, a lot of actors use acting coaches because it's just like. It's just like having like a tutor.

• 25:31Drew Afualo?

  Exactly, yeah, exactly.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  Work over things with, which I'm like, that's really nice that people try to like, try.

• 25:38Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. If I was doing like SAT prep, like that's the kind of shit I'm doing. Like, it's I'm hiring someone to help me prepare better.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:46Drew Afualo?

  But it's also like, I'm not too arrogant to admit that maybe I don't know everything and maybe they can teach me things I don't know and maybe we can work on it together.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  And it's also like, once like you're casting something and get to set, there'll probably be hurdles that you haven't even

• 25:59Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  considered.

• 26:00Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, that will just pop up and you're like, how do I say a line that I don't believe I should be saying?

• 26:06Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  Which I imagines the like, probably gonna happen.

• 26:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I guarantee it. I'm curious to know too, since you wrote and directed your short film, like, is there any one, well first, which one do you like better?

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Writing or directing?

• 26:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes, between the two.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  I, that's tough. I think I'm, to my credit, I'm trying to get better about confidence. I'm like, I think I'm a pretty good writer.

• 26:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  I could say that like, I think I'm pretty good. I think as a director, it was nice because I was relying on people who are very good at their jobs.

• 26:36Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Which was like a very nice thing to have as a first time director, was to like have an A D. Uh, my A D was, her name's Natasha, she worked on Marvelous Mrs Maisel.

• 26:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh, beautiful.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  And like, I used to get her lunch and like she is, there is, there is no reason she needed to be doing a short film. But she ran that thing like the goddamn army.

• 26:56Drew Afualo?

  Period, I love that.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:58Drew Afualo?

  I think that's sick.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, and like the producers like did not need to become like, so it was really nice that I was able to like focus on the creative. But like, I think as a director, I have room to improve.

• 27:08Drew Afualo?

  Hmm.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  But like, I, I'd say I like both.

• 27:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay, cool.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:12Drew Afualo?

  What are the?

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Would you ever write or direct?

• 27:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I would love to. Writing, I would love to write. Directing, I'm not too sure, to be honest. Like, I, I, I think so, in theory, but um, writing, I would love to. I would love to write uh, scripts or-

• 27:24Speaker 01

  You can do your own Fleabag, write, direct, uh, act, produce.

• 27:27Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I call that my Lin-Manuel Miranda plan.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Sylvester Stallone did the same thing with Rocky.

• 27:32Drew Afualo?

  There you go.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  He was like, here's the screenplay, you have to cast me, or you don't get it.

• 27:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  Brilliant.

• 27:38Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Hold them hostage.

• 27:39Drew Afualo?

  That's, that's my goal.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's awesome.

• 27:42Drew Afualo?

  That's why I said Lin-Manuel is in all of his own projects and he is so real for that.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  I don't blame him.

• 27:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me either. I don't blame him one bit. I was like, can, can he sing? No. Can he rap? Kind of.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  I, I will say-

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Can I attest to his singing voice?

• 27:57Drew Afualo?

  Please.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  Does he have a very singular voice? Yes.

• 28:01Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  There is not a single human on this planet that sounds like him.

• 28:04Drew Afualo?

  That's so true.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  For better, for worse. I'm like-

• 28:06Drew Afualo?

  That is so true. It's a unique capability. I love that.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  It's genuinely, I respect it wholeheartedly. Is there a role, either past or present, that you think you would have been perfect?

• 28:22Speaker 00

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• 28:55Speaker 01

  For?

• 28:56Drew Afualo?

  I mean, perfect for.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Or like, that, like, you're like, this is who I would have, yeah.

• 29:01Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I, I made this, uh, like, I answered this question recently, but I said, "I would love to be in something like an Abbott Elementary." I would love to be in something, I think I would-

• 29:11Speaker 01

  A sitcom?

• 29:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, comedy, I think I would thrive in that. Or something like House of the Dragon. Just hard left to the other side, you know what I mean?

• 29:18Speaker 01

  That'd be cool.

• 29:18Drew Afualo?

  I would love to, but I would also love to do horror. I think horror's fun.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  Horror's fun?

• 29:22Drew Afualo?

  I think it's so fun, and I think it's so campy now, and, and people are just growing to really love horror.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it used to be like a-

• 29:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it used to be kinda like, "Oh, only weird people like horror movies," but now, everybody likes horror. And I think, I think that would be really fun. Honestly, I'm not picky. I'll go wherever anyone wants to cast me, I'm in. You wanna cast me?

• 29:40Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, you look straight at the camera. Send that out.

• 29:42Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, "I'll do anything." But I've also done, like, auditions for, uh, cartoons and stuff, like, voice actors.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Voice acting's cool.

• 29:49Drew Afualo?

  Voice acting is, is very cool, and I think I have a very distinct voice, so that's why they're like, "I think you'd be great for voice acting." I'm like, "Sure."

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably.

• 29:58Drew Afualo?

  I'm Lin-Manuel Miranda 2. By that measure.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm like, holding back, I'm like, "I really wanna try a Lin impression." This is, I've never done one-

• 30:08Drew Afualo?

  You said I should quit while I'm ahead.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm like, I've gone through as you were responding. I was listening, but I was like, "What would I do for my Lin?"

• 30:16Drew Afualo?

  Should I?

• 30:18Speaker 01

  No.

• 30:19Drew Afualo?

  Well, say, I'll turn the same question back on you. Is there anyone you would love to work with?

• 30:23Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 30:24Drew Afualo?

  When it comes to actors, anyone or a dream person?

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Not really.

• 30:28Drew Afualo?

  No?

• 30:29Speaker 01

  Cause I'm like, I, I don't, it depends on the project.

• 30:33Drew Afualo?

  I guess that's true.

• 30:33Speaker 01

  There's so many talented people that like.

• 30:35Drew Afualo?

  You're so analytical Reese.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  Like it's like, I, cause I genuinely, I think people get stuck in their heads and are like, I need to work with this person. I need to, I need to make this. I need to have this award. And I'm like, I, I genuinely just want to make fun stuff.

• 30:50Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  That people watch and it like, it'd be like, oh, that was a good time. I had a good time. I, that's it. So there's not like. I, do you know what I, I, I will say, I would love to work with an actor who is extremely seasoned. And I would also love to work with a first time actor.

• 31:08Drew Afualo?

  Oh, cool. That's a good answer. I think that's wonderful answer.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, cause for the short that I did, like, all the actresses in it had been in stuff and it was like really nice. Then like all to like varying, like some had been in feature films, some have been in episodic TV. And so it was like, it was really nice to have that, but I think it'd be cool for like someone who is like. Try, like someone who has been on like 80 sets.

• 31:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, like.

• 31:33Drew Afualo?

  They don't even audition anymore.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 31:34Drew Afualo?

  They just accept roles.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  Offered.

• 31:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they just get scripts and they're like, sure, why not?

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then someone who's just like, maybe like a singer who is like, yeah, I'll try acting. And like, that'd be fun.

• 31:45Drew Afualo?

  That'd be really cool. I think you would lock in with someone like that. I think you guys would make something great. If it was someone brand new to the world.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:52Drew Afualo?

  And they were interested in it. That's so, that's so T, cause I saw a clip of Denzel Washington when he was doing presser gladiator, I think. And he was like, oh, how do you prepare for auditions? He goes, auditions? I don't audition anymore. I haven't in over 20 years.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  I'm like, that man probably hasn't auditioned since like 89.

• 32:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And he was laughing. I said, I'm trying to be like you, big guy.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, like legitimately.

• 32:14Drew Afualo?

  Right, for real.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  That's so cool.

• 32:16Drew Afualo?

  That's such a flex.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. You know, I spoke to him. I called him, uh, Jesus, what did I call him? I called him a thespian. He's like, a thespian? And I was like, God, fucking.

• 32:28Drew Afualo?

  You're like, oh, God, that's a watching thing, because I'm so weird.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Oh, man, this guy thinks I'm so weird.

• 32:35Drew Afualo?

  What's been like a really like surprising, like fun encounter with a celebrity? You've worked with so many.

• 32:41Speaker 01

  Trying to think. Oh, every now and then it's fun when someone who I'm like, they are not online, they should not know who I am, knows.

• 32:49Drew Afualo?

  I love that too.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  It's always cool where it's like, where I'm like, why does like?

• 32:55Drew Afualo?

  You should not be watching me.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Like, you shouldn't know me. I'm like, that's weird. I'm like, Killian Murphy.

• 33:02Drew Afualo?

  No way.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, like his kids are like of the TikTok age.

• 33:05Drew Afualo?

  That's right.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, they they showed me a video with, uh, with the, I can't do his accent, with, uh, Chris Nolan. And I was like, yeah.

• 33:15Drew Afualo?

  And I'm being super normal and not weird about it.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  No, but I rarely, I don't get starstruck.

• 33:20Drew Afualo?

  Me either.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  Do you, yeah.

• 33:22Drew Afualo?

  Never.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  It happens very randomly.

• 33:25Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  With like, people that I, not that I shouldn't be starstruck over, but like, people that it's like, like.

• 33:32Drew Afualo?

  It's like surprising to others.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Like I, I saw Hoyt Van Hoytma, uh, the cinematographer, and.

• 33:38Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, me.

• 33:40Drew Afualo?

  That is such a Reese answer.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  I was like, uh, Mr.

• 33:44Drew Afualo?

  You're like, oh, my God, oh, my God.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  He was like, why?

• 33:50Speaker 01

  I'm a plague on him. God damn it.

• 33:53Drew Afualo?

  That's such a Reese answer. Oh, my God. You're so real for that, though, not being, um, starstruck at all. Neither am I.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 33:59Drew Afualo?

  And I don't think you can be, honestly, to do what we do.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:02Drew Afualo?

  You can't be.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  No, but it's also like, it's, it'll usually be people like that who also aren't used to, it's, it's not actors because I don't want to act.

• 34:10Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  So I'm like.

• 34:11Drew Afualo?

  Whatevs.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Their approval is not the same.

• 34:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I get what you mean. I get what you mean.

• 34:15Speaker 01

  But like, I, I respect their craft and what they do.

• 34:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  But I'm like, at the end of the day, if they don't like me, it's, that's okay.

• 34:21Drew Afualo?

  It's all right. Yeah. We're all normal people.

• 34:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're all human.

• 34:24Drew Afualo?

  I've said that to so many, because people ask me all the time, especially about carpets. They're like, are you, yeah, are they, are you so nervous? No, they, honestly, they're so normal.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:33Drew Afualo?

  When you're around them, and honestly, kind of weird. A lot of them are weird.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  It's the one thing where I'm like, oh, like, it's like. Like conservatives are obsessed with like actors that play military men. I'm like, these are theater kids and they're wearing

• 34:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you have no idea.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  They're not Marines.

• 34:51Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  I'm like, gee, like you, so, so dumb.

• 34:56Drew Afualo?

  They're all theater kids.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  No, and they're like all sweet. And also, it's a job, like.

• 35:00Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. They don't see it the same way.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  No, and it's like, I, I, yeah, I, I need to finish this sentence, sorry.

• 35:08Drew Afualo?

  No, you're fine.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  No, it just doesn't make sense to me, because I'm like, when you talk, like when people in office settings like talk to their coworkers, it's the same thing. Like, you cannot just like pick fights with people.

• 35:20Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is, it's, it's on different, like, different settings, but like, no, it's their job. They like, they're gonna be like courteous and and for the most part, everyone's nice. Everyone's just trying to like, do their job.

• 35:33Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  Like, take pride in their work and everyone just wants to like uplift one another.

• 35:38Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And there's, I, I've told people before too, like, especially when you talk about interactions with fans and like celebrities, because they would consider them real celebrities, which I do too, like actors and all of that. I'm always like, 99% of the time, if you're normal, they'll be normal. If you're not weird, they won't be weird if you ever cross paths with a famous person.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:57Drew Afualo?

  And when you're in these work settings, like, we're all being normal. So, nothing weird's happening. Like, no one's being weird, no one's, it's not uncomfortable to me.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:06Drew Afualo?

  And I feel like most often times too, like, they really wanna like have a good time. Like, they, when you're normal and cool with them, they're like, alright, yay!

• 36:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. And it's like, I feel like with actors, they don't wanna talk about acting or anything.

• 36:20Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Other things. But then filmmakers, it's always fun to talk to.

• 36:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Because I'm asking them like stupid nerdy shit. I'm like, how you laying down tracks? And they're like, that's what you wanna know. I met, um, uh, director James Cameron.

• 36:35Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Like, you know, Oscar winning director.

• 36:37Drew Afualo?

  Heavy hitter.

• 36:38Speaker 01

  Heavy hitter. Uh, called Jim by some, not me.

• 36:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, you could quote me on that.

• 36:45Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Um, and the first thing I said, I was like, oh, nice to meet you. And I was like, what was it like working on as like a matte painter on Escape from New York? 1981, John Carpenter. And he's like,

• 36:57Speaker 01

  The fuck are you talking about? He was like, I was working like as like an, like a mat, like that's what you want to talk about? And I was like, yeah.

• 37:06Drew Afualo?

  I would love to know the answer to that question.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  And then he like went in for like a five minute response was like, well, it was actually fantastic.

• 37:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like they're all just like film-loving nerds.

• 37:15Drew Afualo?

  They are, yeah.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  It's so, it's so lovely.

• 37:17Drew Afualo?

  That is very true and they're all, and everyone, like you said, for the most part is very nice. And even like when I went to the SAG Awards too, I remember I did, I did a lot of carpet interviews at SAG, but, and everyone was so lovely and I was, I was telling everyone, I think the vibe here is awesome because they get to decide who wins these. Like they vote for each other. It's almost like homecoming queen. And then they're all like relaxed when they're here.

• 37:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:41Drew Afualo?

  Every other award show I was at, like there's a little bit of tension in the air because everyone's a little nervous.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:46Drew Afualo?

  And they're all competing against each other to some extent, even though they don't really care, see it that way, I don't think. But everyone's vibe was so chill.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  I can never tell if, if it feels like a competition or not.

• 37:55Drew Afualo?

  I'm same. That's why I'm saying like, I can't tell, but the tension that I felt at the Oscars, at the Globes, like,

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:01Drew Afualo?

  was completely lacking at SAG. I was like, oh, everyone's here to vibe. Everyone's here to have a good time. And you know, you see on carpets, like when like huge A-list talent walk, a lot of times if they do stop for interviews, they'll do like maybe two, and then they rush them inside. Like they're like, no, no, no, I'm not stopping for anyone.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:18Drew Afualo?

  There, there were just hanging out on the carpet. People were just standing there chatting, hanging with each other. And I was like, okay, the vibe here is chill. Everyone is chill, which was nice. I thought that was fun because I was like, everybody's letting their hair down at SAG.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  That's cool. I need to go to SAG so I could ask them really, I, I genuinely use, uh, like, the opportunities I get.

• 38:40Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:41Speaker 01

  To ask what I wanted to know as a kid.

• 38:43Drew Afualo?

  I think that's a beautiful thing, right?

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Like at a SAG, I'd be like, so when you made like this movie, which no one likes and flopped, like I wouldn't say that to them. I'd be like, but it is a very like important text to me. I was like, do they apply the hair before you had a, like? I need to know the, the hyper specifics that they're like, I don't know.

• 39:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh, and I bet directors eat that up.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  They really do.

• 39:07Drew Afualo?

  Cause they love that shit.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I can't wait to one day. I, I mean, like, that's the goal is to...

• 39:13Drew Afualo?

  Is there a director you haven't gotten to key with that you would like to?

• 39:16Speaker 01

  Uh, Steven Spielberg.

• 39:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's obvious.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  He's, he's who I want to grow up to be.

• 39:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Oh, that's so sick.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:22Drew Afualo?

  That's so fucking awesome.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  He's cool. He wears a hat on set. That's awesome. Like, what?

• 39:28Drew Afualo?

  This guy's so laid back.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  Guy's so laid, so approachable. Guy's wearing a hat. Yeah. Oh, man. What a, what a cool dude. No, he would be, he'd be one. Um, hey, a lot of the ones that like I would want to meet are dead.

• 39:41Drew Afualo?

  Oh, unfortunately.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  Unfortunately. Yeah.

• 39:44Drew Afualo?

  Damn. You gotta go in the in memoriam and then you'll meet him.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, yeah.

• 39:48Drew Afualo?

  Once you get there.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  They play me in the in memoriam. I'm like bothering the person before.

• 39:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're haunting them.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like, I'm not even on the screen. Like, Harry Potter, I've gone to someone else's painting. I'm bothering them there.

• 40:01Drew Afualo?

  Asking them, so when you put on the mask?

• 40:03Speaker 01

  So when you... When does it start?

• 40:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 40:07Drew Afualo?

  I think that's so funny. I, and I think your point about how like actors don't want to really talk about acting. A lot of times they want to talk about other stuff. Or other things they're into or whatever.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:17Drew Afualo?

  I think that's so real. And I think, I think that's why they like us, to be honest, because I think the two of us talking to them.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Speak for yourself.

• 40:23Drew Afualo?

  I know they love you, Reece. Reece, I know they love you. I fucking see them all the time. They're like, oh my God, Reece! Every time they see you on carpet. They're like, I love that guy!

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Uh, because they know that I'm not gonna ask anything gossipy.

• 40:36Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  Someone could go through a divorce, there's not a, I'm like, what? No, I don't, no.

• 40:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no, no.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  I need to know about the 2003 flop that you were in. Like, I need to know.

• 40:47Drew Afualo?

  I need to know about something else, actually.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  I actually do not care.

• 40:51Drew Afualo?

  When I did the materialist carpet this weekend, I talked to Chris Evans for a bit. And when I asked him, I don't even remember the question I asked him. I just said like, oh, I think I said something like, what do you hope people take away from this movie?

• 41:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:04Drew Afualo?

  And he gave me this really long, like poignant, eloquent answer. It was like such a great answer. And I was listening to him and I was like, I think you fucking nailed that. And then he was like, right?

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:16Drew Afualo?

  And then he's like, up top. And he high fived me.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  Also like, yeah, leave it to an actor to have like a perfect response.

• 41:23Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  So eloquent.

• 41:25Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's almost like they get paid to do that.

• 41:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. I was like, that PR is working overtime. Hell, yeah.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Oh, man, that'd be so, oh, I can't wait for you to be in something and then for you to give your very eloquent.

• 41:38Drew Afualo?

  And then some dickhead online is gonna do that to me. And that's karma.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  Precisely, yeah.

• 41:45Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so I do have some fun facts about you.

• 41:49Speaker 01

  Oh, there's not gonna be, we were discussing.

• 41:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh, wait, I do have some though.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  There's not gonna be anything fun.

• 41:56Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, let Amanda cook, hold on.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  Is my middle name on there? I don't know if that's publicly available.

• 42:02Drew Afualo?

  Uh, well, this one says you were a summer camp counselor at Camp Pointel in Pennsylvania.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, I taught fishing, uh, like as like a thing. I, um, I ran the talent show. That was fun. Never lost a talent show.

• 42:19Drew Afualo?

  Personally, or?

• 42:20Speaker 01

  No, no, no. We would, I would, I would like choreograph like the campers and like make them do dances.

• 42:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, you competing against the kids?

• 42:27Speaker 01

  No, no, no, I was like Bob Fosse. I was like, that'd be wild. And I was like, fuck.

• 42:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, right. Damn, all right.

• 42:33Speaker 01

  No, I, I needed to direct even on the camp stage. Everyone's like playing baseball and I'm like, no, like hit your mark.

• 42:41Drew Afualo?

  No, you need to go over your moves. You need to go over your eight count.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  I, I worked as a camp counselor. Wonderful, great time.

• 42:48Drew Afualo?

  I feel like in another life, you would just absolutely run a, a summer camp like no other.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  I mean, so I, I'm, I'm writing something and hoping to pitch it, which is a show that takes place at a summer camp.

• 42:58Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Then I could like work at a summer camp, but then make some, yeah, so it's like.

• 43:03Drew Afualo?

  You're blending the worlds.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  My excuse, or it's like, ah, we haven't shot a damn thing. He's just fishing. I don't even like to fish. I just like to sit by the lake. I would never catch anything.

• 43:13Drew Afualo?

  But you taught people how to fish?

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, it's.

• 43:16Drew Afualo?

  Children?

• 43:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, put, put a hook in the water.

• 43:19Drew Afualo?

  What is teaching?

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, what is teaching? No, it eventually evolved into rock skipping. Cause I was like, this is just a better excuse to sit at the lake.

• 43:29Drew Afualo?

  Were you a big hit with the kids? I feel like they loved you.

• 43:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I still, I was gonna say, the, I feel like the, the groups of, I guess they're not people. The groups of organisms that I appeal to most, I think are animals and babies. Well, I guess babies are people, um, but.

• 43:46Drew Afualo?

  They are almost people.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Almost, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I feel like, there's something that just.

• 43:53Drew Afualo?

  Something about your spirit that speaks.

• 43:55Speaker 01

  Surprises, they're like, like babies will see me and they're like, like, like perplexed, um, which I think is partially like the hair or like the blood, it's just a lot.

• 44:04Drew Afualo?

  Just the, just the vibe.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's good though. What's your, do you love animals? Do you like animals?

• 44:09Speaker 01

  I love animals.

• 44:10Drew Afualo?

  What's your favorite animal?

• 44:11Speaker 01

  My cat, Cooper.

• 44:12Drew Afualo?

  Oh, what a great answer. What kind of cat?

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Uh, he's just a little guy. He's.

• 44:17Drew Afualo?

  He's a fucking guy, I don't know.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  Siberian, so he's a big fluffy guy. But yeah, it's like, yeah, I, I'm getting better with people, but like babies and, babies and animals, I'm like.

• 44:29Drew Afualo?

  That's what you're vibing with.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  I'm in the pocket.

• 44:32Drew Afualo?

  They love me.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:34Drew Afualo?

  Okay, this next fun fact says that you originally started college at Tulane pre-med.

• 44:41Drew Afualo?

  Is that wrong? Wrong? JK, don't kidding.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  No, we're keeping that in there.

• 44:45Drew Afualo?

  Communications major.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  That's wrong. Research on this show needs to be fired.

• 44:50Drew Afualo?

  Right, needs to be fact-checked.

• 44:52Speaker 01

  Fact-checked.

• 44:53Drew Afualo?

  Communications major.

• 44:54Speaker 01

  I was a communications major.

• 44:55Drew Afualo?

  Yes, okay, there we go. Sorry, she corrected herself. That's on me.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  It's alright. No, I, I could not have done pre-med. I have, like, my hands are constantly, I don't, I mean, like, oh, jeez. I'll try to keep them as steady as possible.

• 45:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, you're just naturally, uh, jittery a little bit?

• 45:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I drink, I consume a lot of coffee, which I'm sure doesn't help.

• 45:15Drew Afualo?

  That is true. Every time I see Reece, he has a coffee cup in his hand.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  I.

• 45:18Drew Afualo?

  Every single time.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Eleven thirty at nine.

• 45:20Drew Afualo?

  That's true, every single time. When I saw you at the Wicked premiere, you had a coffee cup in your hands and it was like seven PM.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Makes note. Those things go so late.

• 45:30Drew Afualo?

  They do go so late.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  They're like, oh, you're gonna come to the after party. Are you insane?

• 45:35Drew Afualo?

  I say the same thing.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  It's 11 o'clock in a school night.

• 45:38Drew Afualo?

  You say, girl, you're lucky I'm at the movie.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  27 years old, I have class in the morning. I'm like, no, I'm not, no. And it's the same thing where it's like a lot of times like, I, I, I feel so privileged to get to go to premieres. Like what, I, I grew up wanting to just like, see something like, and just be there in a suit and like.

• 45:58Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  And I, I get to do that, which is not lost on me and while never complain about it.

• 46:03Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Where I'm like, what, like, there's so many people that would love to be here, so I will not be upset.

• 46:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  That being said, I'm not going to a party. I'm not going after anywhere.

• 46:14Drew Afualo?

  That's true. One thing about Reese, he will not be at the after party.

• 46:17Speaker 01

  No. People are, they're like, oh, come on. I'm like, no.

• 46:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, sometimes you're like, oh no, I'm leaving after the movie.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  No, no, yeah, totally. I start saying goodbye the second the evening starts.

• 46:26Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  I'm like, I'm not staying. And like, they're like, oh, free drinks. I'm like, that's great.

• 46:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, congrats.

• 46:32Speaker 01

  Like, is there coffee? No.

• 46:34Drew Afualo?

  I, I agree with you on that because it's not complaining because it's hard. It's just, I don't think people realize just how like, uh, long those can be. Like the premieres sometimes. I went to the Barbie premiere. I felt like I was there for 72 days.

• 46:48Speaker 01

  It was probably a great time.

• 46:49Drew Afualo?

  It was so fun, but I was there for 12 hours and it was insane.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's like, see the movie. Fantastic.

• 46:55Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  Like, go see the movie and then, yeah, get some food after. The best part about a movie is talking about it afterwards.

• 47:01Drew Afualo?

  And you can't do that at the party.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  Cause someone's playing loud music. Um, yeah. Hot take of mine, I don't want music to be loud.

• 47:09Drew Afualo?

  Hey, music, turn it down.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, in Prague, they have decibel readers on the streets.

• 47:14Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 47:15Speaker 01

  After certain hours, it can't get that loud.

• 47:17Drew Afualo?

  You're such an old man.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  No, I know.

• 47:21Drew Afualo?

  Me too, though, Loki.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, like my neighbor is like, if they're just like playing music and it's like 6pm on a Wednesday, I'm like, Jesus.

• 47:28Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, wow, okay, winding down time is now.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  So I'm living next to a bunch of party animals.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  They're listening to like smooth jazz.

• 47:36Drew Afualo?

  That's not even disturbing you.

• 47:38Speaker 01

  Both me and my cat are just like side eyeing.

• 47:42Drew Afualo?

  I know, speaking of old man shit, I was like telling you I'm drinking like electrolytes. The other, I think it was a couple of weeks ago, I was filming with someone and they were like, what's in there? And I was like, oh, it's like Pedialyte. And they were like, are you hungover? And I go, no, old.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  No, yeah.

• 47:56Drew Afualo?

  That's it.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Drinking prune juice. But we're, I feel like we're at a weird age because I no longer relate to the, the youth in the same way.

• 48:07Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, not at all.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  Cause I.

• 48:09Drew Afualo?

  They might as well be speaking a different language to me.

• 48:11Speaker 01

  It's not even that. I'm just like, oh, I'm no, like, I don't think I was ever hip, but I'm like, I definitely am not now.

• 48:18Drew Afualo?

  Especially not now.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  But I'm also not in my 30s, so I don't have like the same sort of like, I'm not viewed as mature and like.

• 48:25Drew Afualo?

  I totally get what you mean.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  Weird liminal space where I, I'm, I feel like the fly, like half man, half. Neither side wants me.

• 48:36Drew Afualo?

  Not good enough for either.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Gen Z, they're like disgusting. They don't want me. They're like old.

• 48:43Drew Afualo?

  Us to Gen Z, we're like a hundred to Gen Z.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  And I, cause I, you're, so if you're 29, that means you were born in 96?

• 48:49Drew Afualo?

  95.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  95, okay. So, yeah, I'm, I was born in 98, so I don't really know which, which like side to, yeah.

• 48:59Drew Afualo?

  I know. That's why I'm excited to turn 30, cause I'm turning 30 this year. I'm so excited. Because now I'm like, I'm sprinting out of my twenties, thank God, but I also feel like, I wish I skipped from 28 to 30. Cause 29 felt like I was just hanging on to my twenties.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:13Drew Afualo?

  Like I was like 29 and they're like, yeah, exactly. Nobody talks about embarrassingness to be 29.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  No, we were talking about it before you walked in.

• 49:20Drew Afualo?

  Exactly, exactly. See, I knew it.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Don't bring it up.

• 49:24Drew Afualo?

  And I, now when I'm in my 30s, I can be like, oh my god, I'm only 30. Like, I'm young to 30 year olds.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  That's the thing.

• 49:29Drew Afualo?

  There you go.

• 49:30Speaker 01

  30 is a new plateau.

• 49:31Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  Exactly. 40 year olds are gonna be like, oh my god, you have so much time. It's like, yeah, to like, now when I go on sets, there are people, I used to be the baby on set.

• 49:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  And now I'm 27, people ask me for like, what should I do? I'm like,

• 49:46Drew Afualo?

  Don't ask me, ask someone older than me.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, I don't know, I'm excited. I think once I start growing facial hair, all, that's gonna be a big thing for me.

• 49:55Drew Afualo?

  A new, a new thing for you.

• 49:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:57Drew Afualo?

  I think that's awesome. I support you on that journey.

• 50:00Speaker 01

  It's, it's not looking great.

• 50:04Drew Afualo?

  No, but you got such strong hair.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:06Drew Afualo?

  You got a great head of hair.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 50:08Drew Afualo?

  And that's, that's your thing. That's, I love the hair.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 50:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's awesome.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  Truly came out of the, famously during 2020, there is a virus going around and most barber shops-

• 50:18Drew Afualo?

  Right, oh, right.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, most barber shops were closed. So I was like, I guess this is it.

• 50:23Drew Afualo?

  Looks like we're growing it out.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Five years, I was like, guess this is, uh, what?

• 50:28Drew Afualo?

  No, you got, you got a strong head of hair. Love that. That's cause you're a good person.

• 50:32Speaker 01

  Pattern beauty.

• 50:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the universe isn't punishing you.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Tracey Ellis Ross, if you're watching.

• 50:38Drew Afualo?

  Huge fan.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  I, pattern beauty rocks.

• 50:41Drew Afualo?

  I love that, cause you got curls.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 50:43Drew Afualo?

  Period. Uh, this next one fact says that you worked in casting on a show called Worst Cooks in America.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  Was I listed as casting on that? I worked on that show. I was a day player on that. Was not in casting. Uh, I have never, I'm telling you, there's, it's on my, I am-

• 51:03Drew Afualo?

  Tell them to check their facts.

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Also, I was telling you, there's not a, you will not find a fun fact about me. There's really, there's not many. What you see is what you get, which is not that exciting. That's one thing I always do love, where people are like, I think what I do is cool, but like, that's the extent of it.

• 51:21Drew Afualo?

  You're so annoying. You are a very cool person.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Thank you. I had, but, um, I, I worked on Worst Cooks. When you brought up cooking shows, I worked on that for, like, as a day player.

• 51:33Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  So that was like mostly just like taking out the trash, which was like-

• 51:36Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 51:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. I learned a lot, cause that was the first time I'd worked in a studio setting.

• 51:41Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, someone has to take out the trash. It's genuinely-

• 51:45Drew Afualo?

  And guess what? It was you.

• 51:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's an important job. It's the, I-

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Being a P A was, I don't want to ever do it again.

• 51:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  It is such a great experience and I think anyone that works in film should at some point just P A for a couple of days just to understand.

• 52:02Drew Afualo?

  Just to get the, the experience of a P A.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Legitimately, just to be like, this is what it feels like to, to like, have to deal with that.

• 52:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. What's the, what's the strangest thing you've had to do on a P A job?

• 52:19Drew Afualo?

  Where you're like, this is crazy.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  For Housewives, I would have to do, um, transcription.

• 52:27Speaker 00

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• 53:00Speaker 01

  So it's like when, like all the housewives are yelling, it's writing down what they're saying so that when we feed it to the editors, they can like look through dialogue and be like, oh, this line was said, but I was like writing words that like I haven't verbalized.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  I was like, I don't even know if I should be writing that.

• 53:16Drew Afualo?

  You're wincing like as you're.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. So like, that was crazy. Like, there is like a charcuterie board that was thrown. So I had to like, I like was the one that had purchased it and I was like, well, great. Shucks that charcuterie.

• 53:30Drew Afualo?

  Right, okay.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  That was crazy. I'm trying to think like, dry cleaning, like that's a thing. Like, getting people's dry cleaning, like, it's fun.

• 53:40Drew Afualo?

  Aaron running whore.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, where it's just like, I throw on like the Devil Wears Prada soundtrack. No, oh my gosh, like I'm so misunderstood.

• 53:48Drew Afualo?

  All the Hermes scarves.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. I get hit by a tab and like, yeah. Like, it should have been me. Yeah.

• 53:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, there, no, there is some crazy stuff that you have, but like, I imagine it must have been crazier in like the eighties.

• 54:01Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I can only imagine.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, with no laws.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  With no laws.

• 54:04Drew Afualo?

  No human rights laws.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  No human rights, yeah. Um, so like, uh, uh, at least it was fine for me.

• 54:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 54:11Speaker 01

  Like in the grand scheme of things, but like, I'm also like, when people are like, oh, I had it much worse. I'm like, I'm so sorry.

• 54:19Drew Afualo?

  That's a bummer.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  Don't put anyone else through that.

• 54:22Drew Afualo?

  For real.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't want PAs to suffer. That's insane.

• 54:25Drew Afualo?

  No, it is truly insane. And I can only imagine. I've, I've obviously never, I've never been a PA, but I did work like internships for like publicists and stuff when I was in college and I worked for a publicist that worked for athletes exclusively. Like she, she managed only, uh, professional NFL players. So I remember some of the weirdest shit I had to do. Like one time I had to watch a dog that was his girlfriend at the time's dog. But she wanted the dog, but never wanted to take care of it. So they dropped it off at the office and told me it was my job to watch it. So I just watched, I felt so bad for that little thing, but like, it was like a little terrier. And so it was just me and him just hanging out in the office, just the two of us.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Just like.

• 55:06Drew Afualo?

  Just looking at each other.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 55:07Drew Afualo?

  And then when I had to give him back, I was like, I'm so sorry. I gotta give you back to your mom that doesn't want you.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  That doesn't want you. Using you like an accessory. Insane.

• 55:15Drew Afualo?

  One time I had to make, uh, at that same job, I had to make a PowerPoint of this guy and his family. And it was like, it was basically something like he was trying to pitch his wife that he wanted to go on like this specific vacation or something like that.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  You had to make the PowerPoint for the vacation pitch?

• 55:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he wanted me, like she wanted me to make the pitch for him to give to his wife for reasons I don't understand.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  Where were they going?

• 55:41Drew Afualo?

  They were like going to like Bermuda or something. So I had to like look up places in Bermuda and be like, this place has.

• 55:48Speaker 01

  Did they end up going on the trip?

• 55:49Drew Afualo?

  I have no clue.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 55:50Drew Afualo?

  I just like spent six hours doing that. That was my only job that day. I was like, well.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:55Drew Afualo?

  Done by eleven thirty?

• 55:56Speaker 01

  There'd be days where I'd be tasked with like going to a different state to pick up a single thing and then like getting called like on my way there and like four hour drive down there like, we don't need anymore. I'm like, great, turning back.

• 56:07Drew Afualo?

  Oh, perfect, perfect, perfect.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, perfect.

• 56:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, perfect. I didn't want to get it anyways. Okay, I have another one for you. It says that.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Well, we'll see. We'll see if, yeah.

• 56:18Drew Afualo?

  If it's true or fun. It says, "Famous Yankee player Yogi Berra signed a baseball for you in 2010."

• 56:26Speaker 01

  How the fuck do you know?

• 56:28Speaker 01

  That's weird. Oh, that's definitely like, oh, that's definitely like on like my Facebook. Got him. Yeah. I was like. We have to get everyone at least once. Yeah. Yes, famous Yankee athlete Yogi Berra did sign a baseball that I have.

• 56:46Drew Afualo?

  Fact-checked, verified.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. R.I.P. Yogi Berra. You a big Yankees fan? No, I don't even.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  I actually, it's so funny. I used to be a Yankees fan and then I grew up and I was like, I was like, they have too much money. And I, I made a hard pivot. The establishment wants me to. No, no, legitimately. I was like, one day I was like, it's too much money for one corporate. And I made a hard pivot to the Mets. Okay. That's a working man's team.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  I was like, it's so stupid. Smart. That was legitimately my thinking where I was like, I was like, the Yankees, like, they haven't worked a day in their goddamn lives. Yeah, they don't know what it feels like. They know suffering. So, so stupid. And now, and now I'm a Mets fan. Okay. And I have not known happiness in years. So? So that's fucking great.

• 57:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was all, yeah. Right. There's a lot of things where I'm like, nope, no longer like this because too much money behind it. I'm like, can't do it.

• 57:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's your frontal lobe developing.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, right. No. They, their stadium was built too quickly. I'm like, I don't trust this. Something stinks, something stinks. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of things like that. I'm like, I don't know.

• 57:57Drew Afualo?

  Okay, uh, your last one says that two of your top four movies on Letterboxd are The Princess Bride and Indiana Jones.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  That's true. That is true. That's public information.

• 58:07Drew Afualo?

  That is public information.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:09Drew Afualo?

  What are the other two?

• 58:11Speaker 01

  So right now, yeah, I, I switched them out. It's The Thing. Which we discussed.

• 58:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  Raiders of the Lost Ark.

• 58:18Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  Cause. I, I just.

• 58:20Drew Afualo?

  The best one.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  It's good.

• 58:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  I enjoy that movie. He, I made my dad get me a fedora as a kid, cause I saw Indiana Jones had one.

• 58:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he really rebranded fedoras for a while.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, now it's been.

• 58:32Drew Afualo?

  They fell back, yeah.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  Now it's been tarnished.

• 58:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they fell back to the wayside, but for a minute, yeah, now they're a real princess.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, now, yeah, I need to bring that back.

• 58:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you should. Start working it into some content.

• 58:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:46Drew Afualo?

  Get some A-list celebrities to say, "Princess."

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Oh, princess.

• 58:50Drew Afualo?

  That's actually a great idea. You should bring a fedora with you.

• 58:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll be like, "Do you wanna try it on?"

• 58:56Speaker 01

  They're like, "We used to never invite it back."

• 58:59Drew Afualo?

  This is actually your last day working here, so.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  Why did you approach Brad Pitt with a fedora? I'll be like, "I'm so sorry." Um, yeah, Indiana Jones, love that movie.

• 59:08Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  I've really, I just, I, I have never related to someone more. Uh, just like, he's like, "It belongs in a museum," and I'm like.

• 59:18Drew Afualo?

  He's so right.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  He's so right. I'm like, "It does, why are you..." Yeah. So that, The Thing, cause I like simple movies.

• 59:26Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  That is just like, what if there was a thing?

• 59:28Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Princess Bride, cause that movie is really sweet.

• 59:31Drew Afualo?

  It's a great movie.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  It's so sweet.

• 59:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  It's a really sweet movie.

• 59:34Drew Afualo?

  It is.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  And it just makes me laugh. And then the last one is Eyes Wide Shut.

• 59:39Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 59:39Speaker 01

  I, have you seen it?

• 59:40Drew Afualo?

  No, I haven't. I do know it, but I've never seen it.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  It's so good, cause it's another, it's, I, my favorite type of movie is Guy Has Bad Day, which is quite simply a guy having a bad day.

• 59:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  And Eyes Wide Shut is about a guy who like, you know, has a great life, and then one day his wife is like, "You know, I had a thought about another guy once," and he's like, it throws him.

• 1:00:05Drew Afualo?

  Hold it off, hold it.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  And like, then like, he just spirals and a lot of bad things ensue because he's just like, "Wha- what do you mean?" Like that his wife has interiority, that he was like, not privy to.

• 1:00:20Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  It's a really, it's a really interesting movie.

• 1:00:23Drew Afualo?

  Okay, tea. I'll have to check it out.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  I highly recommend it.

• 1:00:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  And to watch it during, it's one of my favorite Christmas movies. It, it just takes place around Christmas. Um, there's like a few Christmas movies in the background.

• 1:00:34Drew Afualo?

  I'm pretty sure that's not a Christmas movie.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Santa does not make an appearance.

• 1:00:38Drew Afualo?

  It's kinda like the movie, you know the movie Just Friends with Ryan Reynolds?

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:00:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's not a Christmas-

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  That's, that's Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock, or is that?

• 1:00:47Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  No, that's the proposal.

• 1:00:48Drew Afualo?

  That's the proposal. This is Ryan Reynolds and I forget her name.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  Cause there's a few of those movies that like, get jumbled in my head.

• 1:00:56Drew Afualo?

  Right, cause they're all kinda the same movie.

• 1:00:59Drew Afualo?

  Anna Faris is in the movie, yes.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  But she's not the other, she's not the main girl.

• 1:01:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she's not the main, Amy Smart, is that her name?

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  Is Amy Smart the romantic lead in that?

• 1:01:07Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I think so.

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  Okay, cause there's like, there was a lot of those where it's like, white poster.

• 1:01:14Speaker 01

  Guy and girl going like-

• 1:01:15Drew Afualo?

  Guy being choked by girl.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, where they're like, back to back and they're like-

• 1:01:20Drew Afualo?

  They're like-

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  This guy.

• 1:01:24Drew Afualo?

  Get a load of this guy.

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  This one, this summer, yeah.

• 1:01:28Drew Afualo?

  Uh, that movie is not a Christmas movie by any means, uh, it just takes place around Christmas time.

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  That counts as a Christmas movie.

• 1:01:34Drew Afualo?

  But in my head, I'm like, Christmas movie, obviously.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Chris, if there is, if there is Christmas lights, if it is kinda chilly.

• 1:01:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, even if it's snowing, I'm like, Christmas.

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  The thing is snowing it.

• 1:01:44Drew Afualo?

  Okay, look at that. I watched the movie Everest, Christmas.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  That's a Christmas movie. I don't care how many people freeze to death, it's a Christmas movie.

• 1:01:52Drew Afualo?

  It's still Christmas, sorry.

• 1:01:53Speaker 01

  Do you think any of your listeners believe in Santa?

• 1:01:56Drew Afualo?

  I mean, probably.

• 1:02:00Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I don't know. If they are, you're too young, don't listen to me. If they, if they do believe in Santa still, I think they're too young to be listening to me.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Who's the youngest person you think that, like, has anyone like, who's like 12 been like?

• 1:02:12Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying to think. I have had really young children with like, their parents like, come up and be like-

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:02:18Drew Afualo?

  Like, I went to VidCon two years in a row, which is like, the max age is like, maybe 19.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:02:24Drew Afualo?

  And so, that was kinda interesting. I've had kids, I, I think girls like, as young as like 13. But that's just cause they're on TikTok and they just think I'm funny.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:33Drew Afualo?

  So, they, to, I'm Santa to them, to be honest. They're like, oh my god!

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  That's power, to be Santa.

• 1:02:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Aw, man.

• 1:02:41Drew Afualo?

  And then I start talking about sucking my wiener and then all of a sudden, nobody wants to hang out with me anymore. Nobody comes to my meet and greets anymore. All of a sudden-

• 1:02:48Speaker 01

  Where'd they go?

• 1:02:50Drew Afualo?

  I guess I'm not kid friendly, whatever that means.

• 1:02:55Speaker 01

  You show there's authorities, they're like, ah.

• 1:02:57Drew Afualo?

  Oh geez, here we go.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  Take the fucking shot.

• 1:03:02Drew Afualo?

  Well, you know what, Reece, thank you so much for coming and hanging out with me today.

• 1:03:05Speaker 01

  What do you think this episode's gonna be called? That's what I was trying to figure out before.

• 1:03:08Drew Afualo?

  They honestly, honestly, I don't know.

• 1:03:10Speaker 01

  Who decides?

• 1:03:11Drew Afualo?

  Maybe it'll be Yogi Berra.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Oh, God. You could watch the clip in real time, you see, you see in my eyes, I panic. And then he repeats it a few times jokingly, and I'm like, ah.

• 1:03:25Drew Afualo?

  And you're like, my eyes are dilating.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:27Drew Afualo?

  Every time he says something, I'm like...

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  It's like, he's not gonna remember the interaction, like, well, I'll, like, if I meet him again, I'll reintroduce myself, he'll be like, oh, nice to meet you.

• 1:03:35Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  I'll know, that's all that matters.

• 1:03:37Drew Afualo?

  That's all that matters.

• 1:03:38Speaker 01

  A thespian's good, my fun facts, I need to do more stuff.

• 1:03:43Drew Afualo?

  That's the best part, though, it's like, you're...

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  I'm at a dead Yankee, and I went to camp, I'm like, what a life I've led.

• 1:03:52Drew Afualo?

  That's the best part about you, Reece, like you said, what you see is what you get.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  What you see is what you get, there's really, yeah, there's like, what is, like, the inside out, what is going on inside the head, and it's like, it's just vacuous.

• 1:04:03Drew Afualo?

  It's just Yogi Berra out there.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  IMDb pro trivia, uh, dead Yankees.

• 1:04:08Drew Afualo?

  That's all that's floating around up there.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  Is genuinely, photos of my cat, Cooper.

• 1:04:13Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly, that's all that needs to be up there, I envy it, honestly. Well, thank you so much for coming and hanging with me today.

• 1:04:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, no prob, now I'm like, really, I, yeah. I hope this was good, I listened to, like, other episodes, I had, like, listened in the past, and like, I feel like,

• 1:04:26Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  I'll usually listen based on who's, like, on.

• 1:04:30Drew Afualo?

  The guest, yeah.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, or like, it depends, like,

• 1:04:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I was like, I just, I didn't want this to be one of the worst episodes.

• 1:04:37Drew Afualo?

  Oh, trust me when I say it's nowhere near. I ha, I do have episodes that, in my head, where I'm like, that's the worst thing I've ever done, but it wasn't me. It was the guest.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  But like,

• 1:04:47Drew Afualo?

  I'll tell you what, it wasn't me.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  So, if I'm, would you say I'm on like... I'm like.

• 1:04:54Drew Afualo?

  I'll validate you, Race.

• 1:04:55Speaker 01

  Top fifty?

• 1:04:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:04:57Speaker 01

  Top, okay.

• 1:04:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  Turns out this is episode forty-eight.

• 1:05:03Drew Afualo?

  Fifty, yeah, at fifty, yeah.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Top fifty and you're fifty.

• 1:05:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. No, I think this was really fun and sweet, and I think you're awesome.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:05:13Drew Afualo?

  And we haven't had, we haven't really had anyone that's like filmmaker. Yeah, like, we haven't had anyone like that.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what tends to happen. Whenever I show up somewhere, it's just an excuse for people to talk about movies. Which is like, what a, what a lovely thing, where it's like.

• 1:05:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Don't have to get into anything super dark.

• 1:05:30Drew Afualo?

  Right. I just love talking, I like picking your brain, because you have a different brain from mine. It's very artist brain. I love that.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:05:38Drew Afualo?

  That's a beautiful thing.

• 1:05:39Speaker 01

  What would you say your brain is?

• 1:05:40Drew Afualo?

  Something horrifying.

• 1:05:43Drew Afualo?

  I, I would say I-

• 1:05:44Speaker 01

  I think you have artist brain.

• 1:05:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think to an extent, yeah. I think you just have a completely different artist brain from me, which I love. That's why I love talking to singers too, like, people who are, like, sing for a living. Like, even when I talked to Cynthia Revo for a while, like, I love picking apart that little brain. I just wanted to, like, hear what-

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  She's a talent.

• 1:06:01Drew Afualo?

  Dude, she's crazy.

• 1:06:02Speaker 01

  And she's short.

• 1:06:03Drew Afualo?

  She's the tiniest woman who's ever lived.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 1:06:07Drew Afualo?

  And short.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  No, it, it, it caught me off guard. I-

• 1:06:10Drew Afualo?

  How small she is.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, her and Ariana, exactly the same size.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  Exactly the same height.

• 1:06:14Drew Afualo?

  Just two little Barbie dolls.

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  Caught me off guard.

• 1:06:17Drew Afualo?

  I could pick them both up by their ankles and be like.

• 1:06:21Speaker 01

  Don't do that. Wait a minute. Don't do that. It's crazy of you.

• 1:06:27Drew Afualo?

  I won't, I won't. But thank you for coming and hanging with me.

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  Thanks for having me.

• 1:06:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course. Anytime. You're welcome. Anytime, Race.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  I can come back weekly as the co-host.

• 1:06:38Drew Afualo?

  I was like, you'll stand in for me.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'll just give you the shirt. They won't know the difference.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  No, I'll work on my impressions.

• 1:06:44Drew Afualo?

  There you go. You just do the Lin-Manuel one. That sounds exactly like me.

• 1:06:47Speaker 01

  If I could prove.

• 1:06:49Drew Afualo?

  There you go.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's pretty good.

• 1:06:51Drew Afualo?

  Saved it for the end.

• 1:06:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, saved it for the end.

• 1:06:53Drew Afualo?

  Really quick, before we go, do you have any advice for any aspiring, like, filmmakers or people who want to dive into film?

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:01Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:02Speaker 01

  Um, there's, like, this is not like something I came up with, but there are three movies that you make. It's the one that you write, the one that you shoot, and the one that you edit.

• 1:07:12Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:13Speaker 01

  Um, they're all gonna be very different, so when you make something, um, it's important to understand that what you set out to make might not be what ends up being made.

• 1:07:23Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  And I would also say, if you're going to make something, actually take the time to plan it. Uh, cuz it's one thing to gather a large group of people to make something.

• 1:07:35Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  But it's on you as like the filmmaker to be the one to make sure that you have the answers.

• 1:07:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  So if, like, my shoot was two and a half days and we planned for a month, because you need to do that, and you really can't leave anything up to chance.

• 1:07:52Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:07:53Speaker 01

  Cuz Murphy's Law exists, anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

• 1:07:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  It doesn't matter, like, I've worked on sets that are like two hundred million dollar budgets.

• 1:08:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  It makes no difference.

• 1:08:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Shit happens, and you have to be...

• 1:08:05Drew Afualo?

  I mean, like, be able to pivot.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  You have to be able to pivot.

• 1:08:07Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  And I would say that for people that wanna get into filmmaking, the visual look is important, but sound is super important, so don't cut corners on things that you might just think are like, oh, it's okay.

• 1:08:21Drew Afualo?

  Like, feel less important.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Where I think, like, it's the same, it's very, like, people could watch this, but if we didn't have mics and it was just in-room audio, no one would wanna...

• 1:08:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it'd be horrifying, yeah.

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it would be terrible, and it's like, lighting is important, like, all the things that are not actually shown on camera are the, usually the most important things. Like, yes, actors are the ones that, like, you see, but like, you'd rather have someone that is a good actor that hasn't been in anything, and be able to have a crew that is capable,

• 1:08:54Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  than have one person that you think is like amazing and then chints out on every other aspect,

• 1:08:59Drew Afualo?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  because then it's not even worth telling that story.

• 1:09:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the whole thing just suffers.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  I like that, I got really serious.

• 1:09:04Drew Afualo?

  No, I love that, though, it's important.

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  I, I think, yeah, if you're gonna make something and people are going to commit time to whatever your vision is... Make it worth it. It doesn't have to, it doesn't have to change the world, but like you should take your work seriously and it's cool to care and it's nice to be sincere. And it's not cool to waste people's time.

• 1:09:21Drew Afualo?

  I think that's kick ass advice, to be honest. I think it's very useful, especially now. I feel like with access to things like social media where they get to see people like you. A lot of people are like, oh my god, I want to make movies too, or I want to get into filmmaking too. And then it can be really uh, easy to fall prey to like, well, I'll just do it this way because that seems, that's what I like to watch in movies, but instead of studying the whole, like how important the entire thing is.

• 1:09:45Speaker 01

  It's like, and it's also, it's important to trust people and to delegate and also like you don't have to shoot on an eighty thousand dollar camera to make something. The iPhone camera is brilliant. Like it's genuinely like, I know people are like, oh, it's an iPhone. If you get ambiance in the room, like fog in the room, um haze, you have a good lighting setup and you use your iPhone in a smart way and then are able to edit color and everything in post, you could have something that looks incredible.

• 1:10:13Drew Afualo?

  That's very true.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  Like there, there has never been a time where it used to be, I, I, I'm almost done, sorry.

• 1:10:19Drew Afualo?

  No, no, no, don't worry.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  Used to be that there were only so many people who were capable of shooting film.

• 1:10:26Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:10:27Speaker 01

  Where there was only so many cameras, there was only so many people that could process film and genuinely knew how to use cameras. Now cameras are so accessible and digital cameras are so accessible that like, anyone can.

• 1:10:40Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  Um, and just because anyone can doesn't mean that you should just rush into things. And it's like, it's smart to plan. And it is cool to make things, but if you want to make something that you're proud of and that matters. Do the forethought to plan and not to waste people's time. Because if people are showing up to help you and want to see you succeed.

• 1:11:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  Don't disappoint them.

• 1:11:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I thought what you said about like, it's really, it's cool to care.

• 1:11:07Speaker 01

  It's very cool to care.

• 1:11:08Drew Afualo?

  I think that's such a great way of putting it too.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  I don't, yeah, I don't think it's cool to show up late or to like, it's, it's really nice to take things.

• 1:11:17Drew Afualo?

  Seriously.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  Seriously, like not serious as in like you have to be like you can't joke around but like. No, it's it's important to like take care of others and to like actually try with the things that you care about and.

• 1:11:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  Show up for others and it's sincerity is is wonderful and like irony has a place in film and like it's. It's fun to be ironic, but like when it comes to like work, life balance and people's time, that's not something to cut corners or to be. Uh frivolous with.

• 1:11:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally, especially when you say like it costs a lot of time and money like to make things to create art like it it costs a lot of people's time, it costs money sometimes like. So it's okay to care a lot about the end product.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it doesn't have to win Oscars, like you could be working on a talking baby film and like. That'll bring someone joy, but that's not an excuse to be like, ah, fuck this, it doesn't matter like, no, everything should have thought put into it and.

• 1:12:11Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:12:12Speaker 01

  Just because it's not, even if you're just working on it, like it doesn't have to be your passion project, but I I think it's nice to be proud of your work and.

• 1:12:19Drew Afualo?

  Of the work you put out.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:21Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was me getting serious. I, yeah, as much as like to joke around, I do like. Film is very important to me.

• 1:12:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  It's important to everyone and like even like Real Housewives, like there are people I've met who are like. Doctors who watch that and I'm like, just because Real Housewives doesn't win Emmys doesn't mean it doesn't have value to people who actually need an escape.

• 1:12:45Drew Afualo?

  I think that's beautiful, to be honest. I think it's a beautiful way of looking at TV and film. It's like, it's it's. An art form in many different in in very literal ways, but it's also so subjective, like what art speaks to some people may not speak to others, but it doesn't. Lessen its value at all.

• 1:13:01Speaker 01

  It doesn't have to change world, it just has to change one person's, that that is it.

• 1:13:05Drew Afualo?

  I think that's a great way.

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  And it could be yours and it, no one has to even see it, as long as. You've made something you're proud of. I think that's, that's important.

• 1:13:11Drew Afualo?

  Beautiful. And you made something you're very proud of.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  I am. I am actually proud of it.

• 1:13:15Drew Afualo?

  Which is a beautiful thing.

• 1:13:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel good. The crew, I was paid, which is not, you know what I mean?

• 1:13:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Which is rare for short films.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  What a blessing to be able to say that.

• 1:13:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  What a, yeah, I, I, it, it's, it's really nice, because I've seen sets where I'm like, I don't want to run a set like this.

• 1:13:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:33Speaker 01

  And I was able to run a set that I'm proud of. And the story, I'm like, is this gonna win an Oscar? Maybe not, but will, I, people watch it and hopefully take something away and be like, wait, that was actually kind of fun. Maybe I can make something like this? Maybe I can make something better?

• 1:13:46Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  Try to make something better. I'd love to, like, watch that, so, yeah.

• 1:13:50Drew Afualo?

  I can't wait to watch you win an Oscar, then.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  That'd be amazing, yeah.

• 1:13:54Drew Afualo?

  I'm manifesting it for you.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  Just wait till I die.

• 1:13:58Drew Afualo?

  Then you're gonna kill in that in memoriam.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 1:14:00Drew Afualo?

  You're gonna kill, no pun intended.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  But if they share my in memoriam slide with another person, I'm gonna be pissed.

• 1:14:06Drew Afualo?

  I want a singular one.

• 1:14:07Speaker 01

  I want a singular.

• 1:14:08Drew Afualo?

  Just my big head.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, just mine. If I'm sharing with someone else, I don't want to share applause.

• 1:14:12Drew Afualo?

  That's why you gotta keep growing the hair out.

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:14:14Drew Afualo?

  Then they have no choice.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  Where they literally can't fit it.

• 1:14:16Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. Perfect. Well, thank you so much for coming and hanging with us.

• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  Thanks for having me. Yeah, I messed up the ending.

• 1:14:22Drew Afualo?

  No, it was a wonderful, no, it was a wonderful ending. That's perfect.

• 1:14:25Speaker 01

  This is now the end.

• 1:14:27Drew Afualo?

  No, it was wonderful. For the, maybe two people that don't know you, uh, where can they find you?

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  My username is at GuyWithTheMovieCamera.

• 1:14:35Drew Afualo?

  Right, period.

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  Which is a, a play on Man With A Movie Camera. It's a 1920's silent film. You don't need to watch it. It's not that great, but it's...

• 1:14:45Drew Afualo?

  Film nerd.

• 1:14:46Speaker 01

  Film nerd, yeah. Legitimately. Yeah, after this, you swirly me in the toilet.

• 1:14:51Drew Afualo?

  I give you a wedgie.

• 1:14:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:56Drew Afualo?

  Well, and also, where can they watch your short film?

• 1:14:58Speaker 01

  Nowhere yet.

• 1:14:59Drew Afualo?

  Nowhere yet. But you can go look at it.

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was gonna say, it's making a festival run, so we're, fingers crossed. I've been to some festivals. Um, but then, whenever, uh, it...

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  Like finishes that run, which will be sometime early next year, so in a few months.

• 1:15:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  I'll just post it on YouTube.

• 1:15:17Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:15:18Speaker 01

  I don't know, or what am I gonna, I'm not gonna sell it to like, no, it'll go on YouTube. Watch it, have fun.

• 1:15:23Drew Afualo?

  Love. And you can also, obviously, if you go follow Reece, you'll know where to find it.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:27Drew Afualo?

  Once it's there.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Maybe I'll, nah, I'm not gonna post it there. I'm like, no, I have to submit to festivals, so. But you'll know when I post it.

• 1:15:35Drew Afualo?

  And you can see art for it.

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  You could see art for it.

• 1:15:38Drew Afualo?

  Yes, you can.

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  Pretty cool poster.

• 1:15:39Drew Afualo?

  Yes, it is a very cool poster.

• 1:15:41Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 1:15:42Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much to my amazing guest Reece for joining us today. Thank you so much for watching. Don't forget the comment section comes out every Wednesday. You can stream audio on all streaming platforms, but the video is for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much for watching. Thank you so much to my amazing guest Reece Feldman, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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