Pod Insights The Ed Mylett Show Mike O'Hearn - Fitness Legend and Real-Life Superhero About this episode Mike “Titan” O’Hearn came from humble beginnings. He grew up on a farm in Kirkland, WA and is the youngest of 9 brothers and sisters. He began competing in bodybuilding, power lifting, and martial arts at the age of 13. By the age of 15, he won the Teenage Washington State competitions in all three sports. When not training, he is busy writing, producing, and directing his own projects.
Mike is a real-life superhero and a renaissance man in the flesh. Like the bodybuilding greats before him, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Lou Ferrigno, Mike holds 4 Mr. Universe titles and was voted one of the 12 greatest physiques of all time by the fitness industry. Mike is a true champion, well-rounded athlete who has graced over 500 fitness covers (second to Arnold Schwarzenegger), actor and community ambassador.
Some of Mike’s accolades include:
Appeared on Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Days of Our Lives, and more
4x California Power Lifting Champion 4x Mr. Natural Universe Mr. America Mr. International Mr. World
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1:53 Ed Mylett? Welcome back to Max Out with Ed Mylett. I'm so fired up today. I have one of the great fitness icons of all time right here. Yeah, you, big boy. Yeah, you. You can tell from looking at us which one of us is the fitness icon.
2:05 Mike O'Hearn? I'm photoshopped.
2:06 Ed Mylett? Yeah. I've been telling everybody today, please photoshop me into this picture so I look at least half his size. But you can tell who's sitting next to me. He doesn't really need an introduction. Four-time Mr. Universe, Titan from American Gladiator. One of the dominant people in the history of bodybuilding. Right there, that is Mike O'Hearn. So, Mike.
2:21 Mike O'Hearn? Thanks, brother.
2:22 Ed Mylett? Thanks for being here, man.
2:23 Mike O'Hearn? Thank you, man.
2:23 Ed Mylett? So good to have you, man.
2:24 Mike O'Hearn? This is beautiful. Let me just say this. For everybody, my fans and everybody, this house is amazing. And so I hope we do show this through the day.
2:33 Ed Mylett? We will.
2:34 Mike O'Hearn? And I just don't bore you.
2:35 Ed Mylett? No, you're not gonna bore anybody. You're more important than the house, but thank you, man, for being here. So, everybody knows, well, most people know all of the achievements you've had. When I was reading through Mike's bio to introduce him, I was thinking for a minute, like, how would I even read all of these things? We probably can't cover all of them, but I want to go back before everybody knew you, just for a little bit, okay?
2:50 Mike O'Hearn? Okay.
2:51 Ed Mylett? Because you come from a place where it's probably not the most predictable place for someone to become an actor, one of the top bodybuilders of all time. It's not, you know, I doubt it was predictive when you were a kid, right? So, tell them where you grew up and how you grew up, because I think this will be interesting for all of you to know this.
3:05 Mike O'Hearn? It's interesting you say that because at the time, when I was growing up, I had mentors that were the best in the world.
3:13 Ed Mylett? You did?
3:14 Mike O'Hearn? I did.
3:14 Ed Mylett? Okay. How old are you talking?
3:17 Mike O'Hearn? Nine, 10, 11 years old.
3:19 Ed Mylett? Okay.
3:19 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, yeah. So, it's, I guess you would say I was bred to do this lifestyle. But I grew up in Kirkland, Washington. I loved it. It's a beautiful place.
3:30 Ed Mylett? It is beautiful.
3:32 Mike O'Hearn? Costco, probably because of our family, who's there. I come from a family of nine.
3:38 Ed Mylett? Really?
3:38 Mike O'Hearn? So, yeah.
3:39 Ed Mylett? Where are you in the nine?
3:39 Mike O'Hearn? I'm the little one.
3:40 Ed Mylett? You're the baby of nine?
3:41 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
3:42 Ed Mylett? Really? You should be, okay, go ahead.
3:43 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I'm the baby, and that's another thing that... Helped create something bigger because of the fact that, you know, if you've got older brothers, you're getting your ass kicked.
3:54 Ed Mylett? That's for sure.
3:55 Mike O'Hearn? I had older sisters kicking my ass. And so I'm like, wait a minute, I, I, I need to start becoming something. And so our family is very athletic.
4:04 Ed Mylett? Okay.
4:05 Mike O'Hearn? Mom, dad, uh, mom was a martial artist, dad was a football player, bodybuilder.
4:09 Ed Mylett? Dad, bodybuilder.
4:10 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, yeah. So he's into the weightlifting. The whole family in front of me, uh, was weightlifting and I'm talking about my sisters.
4:17 Ed Mylett? No way.
4:17 Mike O'Hearn? Um, doing martial arts, doing all that.
4:20 Ed Mylett? Where'd these mentors come in? Who are they? Like, when that happened?
4:23 Mike O'Hearn? It was, uh, shortly, I started lifting at eight years old.
4:28 Ed Mylett? Oh my god.
4:28 Mike O'Hearn? And I started competing in, uh, martial art tournaments by 11 and my first powerlifting meet, or Olympic lifting meet was actually at 13 and then powerlifted at 14 and I was already on stage competing in bodybuilding at 14 years old. And before that, I was already, when I was really little, um, by nine, 10 and 11, I was already running half marathons and so I was thrown into this pretty darn young.
4:53 Ed Mylett? Pretty early, so you were bred.
4:54 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
4:55 Ed Mylett? Do you, do you believe in, I'm curious about this, I always hear this, this guy's like genetically gifted. Is there such a thing or is that just like something people who don't train hard say?
5:04 Mike O'Hearn? Uh, it's, there are guys that are genetically gifted.
5:07 Ed Mylett? Are you one of them?
5:09 Mike O'Hearn? I would say my family has good genetics. I wouldn't say we're, we're the most freaky genetics, but I would say this.
5:15 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
5:15 Mike O'Hearn? Um, it's the consistency and the work ethic of knowing the little chip on the shoulder or whatever that was, um, and, and growing up with the idea that I wasn't genetic.
5:29 Ed Mylett? Okay.
5:29 Mike O'Hearn? Um, making who I am.
5:31 Ed Mylett? I mean, I've seen you pictures when you're 18. You were a big guy already at 18 years old, right?
5:36 Mike O'Hearn? Those were probably me at 14.
5:37 Ed Mylett? Seriously?
5:38 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
5:39 Ed Mylett? You were already that, because you've been lifting since you were that young, you were already that big at 14?
5:42 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, and one of those things is, uh, don't lift when you're young. Well, it actually builds bone density and connective tissue.
5:48 Ed Mylett? So that's a complete wise.
5:49 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, it's, it's, we've learned so much in 40 years, it's amazing.
5:53 Ed Mylett? This is important because so many of my followers have kids that are athletes that are young and they don't lift weights for that reason. I hear this all the time, that's not true.
5:59 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, it's, it's not true. Um, I recommend and, and.
6:02 Ed Mylett? Obviously, look at you, what, how tall are you?
6:03 Mike O'Hearn? I'm 6'3".
6:04 Ed Mylett? Yes, it didn't hurt your growth.
6:05 Mike O'Hearn? No. And my whole family lifted and they're all tall people. So, one thing that I, I think I learned when I was really young is, is the continuous building day in and day out because my brothers and sisters were all ahead of me.
6:19 Ed Mylett? Okay.
6:20 Mike O'Hearn? And so, when I started training, my goal was to beat them, obviously.
6:23 Ed Mylett? Yep, first, yeah.
6:25 Mike O'Hearn? It didn't matter if it was martial arts, I didn't want to lose it, powerlifting or bodybuilding, didn't matter what it was, is I wanted to compete, you know, and be better than the next person.
6:33 Ed Mylett? So that was bred into you, competing big time.
6:34 Mike O'Hearn? Right from the start.
6:35 Ed Mylett? Do you, uh, did you want to be a professional bodybuilder or was there an age where you went, "I want to be a bodybuilder" or "I want to be a martial artist"? Was there an age that you picked one? Because you're an athlete, you're not, you don't, you're unique because you're not just this kind of, we were talking about before, you're not just a bodybuilder.
6:48 Mike O'Hearn? Right.
6:48 Ed Mylett? Like, we're going to talk about this a little bit later, but like, you're an athlete who is a bodybuilder, right? And I know bodybuilders are athletes, but you're an overall, like even the American Gladiator stuff when you're Titan, that, no normal bodybuilder could do that show. You had to be a great athlete to be on that show, right? So, did you pick bodybuilding or was it just, you just wanted to compete and you were good at that?
7:07 Mike O'Hearn? It was always athletics first.
7:09 Ed Mylett? Okay.
7:09 Mike O'Hearn? And then, everything stemmed off of that. So, can I power lift and then do it well enough to where it didn't interfere with my athletics? Could I body build and could I do it well enough to where it didn't interfere with my athletics? Because the ultimate goal, I mean, obviously, I grew up with Arnold and Bruce Lee and I wanted to be a combination of both.
7:28 Ed Mylett? Wow.
7:28 Mike O'Hearn? I didn't want to be just Arnold and I didn't want to be just Bruce Lee, I wanted to be both. I basically wanted to be a superhero, a comic book superhero.
7:35 Ed Mylett? And that's probably kind of what you're known as now. Like, that's literally how people refer to you. That's sort of ironic, like, that you became these things. So there was an age where you were like, "I'm going to be somebody."
7:43 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, I was nine years old.
7:44 Ed Mylett? Wow.
7:45 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
7:45 Ed Mylett? Were your parents that way with you? Did they raise you?
7:47 Mike O'Hearn? No. No. And, and I came from a great family, um, in a sense of, they both worked.
7:55 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
7:55 Mike O'Hearn? And then they both said, "Listen, we got nine kids, uh, you're going to help out, you know, you're going to get paper routes when you're 10, 11, you know, start working, um, and you're going to be held responsible for your actions." And, and I look back, and mostly in today's day and age, and how people are raised and how you have to be a certain way politically correct and stuff. It's amazing that we're gonna lose all that grit.
8:19 Ed Mylett? You're so right.
8:20 Mike O'Hearn? Oh, it's, it's, it's, and I know, I'm going off for a second, but just the way people respond to a post tells me how their mind is. And, and, and when somebody sees something and go, "Ooh, aren't you gonna hurt yourself?" And I'm like, "Yeah, you're right."
8:37 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
8:37 Mike O'Hearn? They don't even realize I've been doing front squats for 40 years, heavy, every single day. And it's like, you guys, their minds are so, I hate to say it, just, um...
8:46 Ed Mylett? Weak?
8:47 Mike O'Hearn? Weak.
8:47 Ed Mylett? No, you're right. And they get weaker and weaker. And the same with me when I make posts. I notice the same thing. The way you respond to things is so reflective of your, your mindset, man. I totally buy that. I totally agree with that. So, was there a point, like, this guy's done 539 fitness covers. I mean, just imagine that for a second. He's the most covered person in the history of fitness, of bodybuilding, by far, right? By like a mile.
9:06 Mike O'Hearn? Right behind Arnold. It's just me and Arnold.
9:08 Ed Mylett? Okay, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, and his hero, right? So, let me ask you this. So, was there a turning point? Was there like a point? So, you're, you're in Washington.
9:16 Mike O'Hearn? Yep.
9:16 Ed Mylett? Okay, what, what was the point? Where'd this thing flip for you? When did you start to become you? Was there a first cover? Was there a bodybuilding competition? Was there something that happened?
9:27 Mike O'Hearn? Uh, well, I was discovered by Joe Weider.
9:29 Ed Mylett? Didn't know that.
9:30 Mike O'Hearn? Uh-huh. Um, I was already competing. Uh, by 14, I was winning shows. So, it wasn't just I was competing, but I was winning. And so, I had that mindset of, okay, I'm different than everybody else. Um, I'm doing something here that nobody else can do. And I'm doing it year, light years in front of people. And so, it's funny, you'll understand this. It's weird. People go, "How the heck did you get that big when you were that young?"
9:56 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
9:57 Mike O'Hearn? Well, at 14, before puberty, I was 176 pounds on stage.
10:01 Ed Mylett? Good.
10:02 Mike O'Hearn? A year later, I was 272 pounds. And people are like, "Wait a minute, that's not feasible." It's called puberty, guys.
10:08 Ed Mylett? Oh, my gosh.
10:09 Mike O'Hearn? Everybody had it.
10:10 Ed Mylett? Oh, my gosh.
10:11 Mike O'Hearn? But I took advantage of it.
10:12 Ed Mylett? Oh, my gosh.
10:13 Mike O'Hearn? So...
10:13 Ed Mylett? You took advantage of all that growth.
10:14 Mike O'Hearn? All of it. All of it. People don't understand that, uh... When they see a picture, they go, "Oh, you've been training for a year."
10:21 Ed Mylett? Mm-hmm.
10:21 Mike O'Hearn? "I've been training since I was eight."
10:23 Ed Mylett? That's amazing, man.
10:24 Mike O'Hearn? So during my puberty years, during that year and year and a half, I did gain 100 pounds. And my strength, obviously, it was already strong, but it went through the roof. I was competing, by the time I was 17, I was already in the magazines.
10:38 Ed Mylett? Were you really?
10:38 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, so I was already competing against men by 17, because my dad says, "Enough of the kid stuff."
10:44 Ed Mylett? Wow.
10:45 Mike O'Hearn? He says, "Compete against the men." And so by 17 years old, I started doing the open shows and open powerlifting meets.
10:51 Ed Mylett? You're on stage with a 30-year-old guy?
10:52 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
10:53 Ed Mylett? At 17 years old?
10:54 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, at 17 years old, and I was competing in martial arts against the men instead of kids. And it was just one of those things that it's, uh... He suggested, but I'm the one that made the choices. And by watching my older brothers and sisters do right things and then wrong things, I kept going baby step. I can take everybody. When they make a mistake, that's another day that I get ahead. Every day that we would go and skip school and go play football.
11:21 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
11:22 Mike O'Hearn? But then they would be drinking beer during playing football, and I'd be like, "I'm playing football."
11:26 Ed Mylett? Wow, yes.
11:27 Mike O'Hearn? "I want to do this, and then I want to go home and train."
11:29 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
11:29 Mike O'Hearn? And it just kept that kind of...
11:30 Ed Mylett? You've always been this sort of beast-monster training freak.
11:34 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
11:34 Ed Mylett? So here's what I want you to get about it. The reason I started in the beginning is because this is the most impressive thing about Mike to me, is that he's even more dominant now. Are you 48 or 49?
11:43 Mike O'Hearn? 49.
11:43 Ed Mylett? 49 years old. So I want you to think about this. He's on stage, he's starting lifting when he's eight or nine, but he's on stage with men when he's 17. And this man has been able to continue to compete, but not just compete. He's at his peak and dominating into his late 40s. I want you to think about that for, just for a second. In any endeavor, I don't care if you're in business, if you're an athlete, if you're in entertainment, to be dominant that late for that long to get better. So I want you to talk to people about, what are some of the keys for you in doing that? Because it's incredible, right? Like, you're bigger, faster, damn stronger now, it seems, right? So how is that the case? Is it just choices over time? How does someone dominate long-term? Because everyone watching this, you've probably had a win or two. You wanted something in business, you won a contest, you were at the top of a board somewhere, you did pretty well in your sport.
12:29 Ed Mylett? You're talking about multiple decades of domination, right? So how do you do that? I want to know how you do that.
12:35 Mike O'Hearn? It was the idea that I was different and I wanted to prove something and I wanted to be alone.
12:41 Ed Mylett? Alone.
12:42 Mike O'Hearn? I
12:42 Ed Mylett? I want to be alone because by the way, most people are afraid to be alone. They're afraid to, absolutely. I just want to tell you this because I work with a lot of athletes, as you know too, right? The thing they're the most afraid of is being alone, is standing out, of being alone, of being unique. That's a, that's not something that you usually take for granted in yourself. I don't want to interrupt you, but just that phrase, brother. And by the way, just think about it, all the guys you didn't even train with, how many of, because you're the alpha of the alphas. Right? Even the dudes you train with, and they won't like this when I say it, but you're the alpha of the alphas.
13:10 Mike O'Hearn? No, my guys won't like that.
13:11 Ed Mylett? But most, because you're one of the guys, but you're not. You're not one of the guys. You don't want to be one of the guys. Tiger Woods doesn't want to be one of the guys. That's why not everyone on tour like Tiger. Everybody likes Phil, everybody likes Tiger. Because Tiger doesn't want to be one of the guys. I don't want to be one of the guys in that sense. So you're willing to be alone and you wanted to be alone. I think that's interesting.
13:28 Mike O'Hearn? It's growing up with dyslexia and put into special classes.
13:32 Ed Mylett? Were you?
13:33 Mike O'Hearn? Set me in a different way.
13:37 Mike O'Hearn? Because in my family, a lot of us in the family grew up with dyslexia, but they handled it well. I didn't. That was my chip. Thought it was a bad thing, didn't realize later in life, it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. And I wouldn't even be.
13:50 Ed Mylett? Why? Why was it good?
13:51 Mike O'Hearn? Oh my gosh, it goes, because you grow up with something like that, it already starts building you. You're already in a competition with, with the world or yourself. And growing up in special ed and instantly going, I want the 1%, these people here that are special. And I'm going to protect them against all these bullies. Because it was young. I was young and fighting every day because, you know, kids.
14:16 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
14:17 Mike O'Hearn? And, and it's like yesterday, it feels like yesterday. But you got kids teasing the special kids. Special ed kids.
14:24 Ed Mylett? All the time.
14:24 Mike O'Hearn? And not special in the sense of like, oh, God's chosen ones.
14:27 Ed Mylett? No, no, no, no. And now they can use social media to do it to each other, which is even worse.
14:30 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah. But I felt, I felt honored to be able to fight for them and stick up for them. And if you're teasing the kid in the wheelchair, I'm hitting you.
14:40 Ed Mylett? You're getting you. But has this chip stuck with you for 20 years?
14:44 Mike O'Hearn? I'm still the 14-year-old that walks in the gym. You know when people go, "How do you get the motivation to go train every day?"
14:51 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
14:51 Mike O'Hearn? I don't have motivation. I got passion.
14:53 Ed Mylett? You have passion?
14:54 Mike O'Hearn? I got passion. I believe this. I need to wake up in the morning and people go, "Why do you train so early?"
14:59 Ed Mylett? Tell them what time you train.
15:00 Mike O'Hearn? I train at 4 a.m. I get up at 3 a.m. and I'm in the gym. And this is not something I've done in a year. This is what I've done my whole life.
15:07 Ed Mylett? Your whole life.
15:07 Mike O'Hearn? My whole life. We started early because of paper routes.
15:10 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
15:10 Mike O'Hearn? You get up early, you do the paper routes, I'd train, then I'd go to the gym, uh, school. But it was one of those, one of those things where it set me up and it's still that passion today that I love the fight.
15:23 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
15:23 Mike O'Hearn? I love to fight every day and I love the gym and I love going in there with the banter and all that stuff and training with the guys and outlifting them or doing whatever I do, but it's... You've been in a fight. And anybody that's been in a fight, a street fight,
15:38 Mike O'Hearn? you hear nothing else. All you're hearing is the hits in the head or you hitting the guy. And there's, no matter how much they're yelling at you, you hear nothing.
15:47 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
15:48 Mike O'Hearn? And I can get to that place every time I work out and there's something there and I'm, I'm like in a fight with myself in that moment and I love that and I live off that.
15:56 Ed Mylett? That's crazy, because I gotta tell you, whether I've interviewed, it's such a running theme, man. Like, athletes I've interviewed, business women I've interviewed, but one of the running themes they all have is they have a way to get themselves, I think I do it myself, but they have a way to get themselves in a state of competing still long-term. Like, they still find a way to compete. There's something to compete for. I don't care who they are, what their industry is. That's sort of, like, there's like, like, four times already you've referenced either fighting or competing. Like, that's a, that's in your just genetic makeup, right? Like, that's who you are.
16:25 Mike O'Hearn? That's cool to hear that others do that.
16:26 Ed Mylett? Bro, it's, it's the, it's the common line.
16:28 Mike O'Hearn? It's wild when you meet somebody else that's successful in what they do.
16:32 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
16:32 Mike O'Hearn? And there's that, the bonds of what...
16:34 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
16:35 Mike O'Hearn? That's cool. I love that.
16:36 Ed Mylett? The other thing you have, though, and I want to talk about this next, is the other thing they have that you have in, like, abundance. Like, I train and I'm fit and we're basically the same age, right? So, more than most people, I have a deep appreciation for what it would require to be you, right? Because I don't have that in that realm. I'm fit, but there's a level of... Dominance that you you've sought and found, right? And so it's little decisions that you make in disciplines, right? So talk to them a little bit like you mentioned your brothers and sisters drinking. You've ever had a drink?
17:07 Mike O'Hearn? Never had a drink.
17:08 Ed Mylett? Never poured alcohol in his body and his life. I mean, just think about this. How about your eating habits, right? Like, just talk to them a little bit about.
17:15 Mike O'Hearn? This is annoying, though. This is annoying to people because it's one of those things. You can't beat the guy that never gives up.
17:21 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
17:21 Mike O'Hearn? I'm that guy. I'm the guy that's never missed a meal in 40 years.
17:24 Ed Mylett? What do you mean by that?
17:26 Mike O'Hearn? Honestly, honestly.
17:27 Ed Mylett? Tell him this.
17:28 Mike O'Hearn? It's annoying to them, but I don't believe I got the greatest genetics. I don't believe I was gifted anything physically better than the next guys.
17:36 Ed Mylett? I don't either.
17:36 Mike O'Hearn? What I believe is that I just don't miss meals. It's not something that I guess the only way that you can relate to it is it blows my mind that people go to work for somebody else from 8:00 in the morning till 6:00 at night, and that's how they live their lives. And the only reason I say that is because people say to me, how do you train at 4:00 in the morning? How do you go to work for somebody else and make them rich? Well, you're just staying average. I don't get it. And for me, I wake up at 3:00 in the morning, still today, and I'm excited and I'm like, let's do this.
18:10 Ed Mylett? I can feel it, you are. Like, the first time we talked to him, he was like, you need to get in the gym, man. I'm like, OK, I go early. I go at 5:00. He goes, well, man, we're in at 4:00. And he's like, just pumped about it, you know? Like, and I'm like, I know that I know what it's like to go to the gym every day. He's done this every day for friggin decades, and he loves it, right? That's the passion play.
18:27 Mike O'Hearn? That's the passion, and I, if I can stay true.
18:30 Ed Mylett? What do you mean by you don't miss meals? Like, do you mean?
18:31 Mike O'Hearn? I don't miss meals.
18:32 Ed Mylett? OK, do you do cheat meals? Do you like, do you eat? Like, I saw something on your birthday. It looked like you were like, almost paying to eat some bad food, like it was like a bite of cake or something you had. Like, you do, tell me at least you have some meals that are like, this one's not good for me. I get to eat this. Do you at least have some?
18:48 Mike O'Hearn? I do, if it makes sense.
18:51 Ed Mylett? He eats what?
18:51 Mike O'Hearn? Fruit.
18:52 Ed Mylett? Fruit?
18:52 Mike O'Hearn? Fruit, fruit's my chief.
18:54 Ed Mylett? Fruit.
18:55 Mike O'Hearn? I do cheat. I wouldn't say cheat because now today, everybody's like, oh, I got my high day on Sundays.
19:01 Ed Mylett? Yes.
19:02 Mike O'Hearn? Because it's Sunday?
19:03 Ed Mylett? Come on, that's what I'm trying to tell myself.
19:05 Mike O'Hearn? I'm always on a plan. I know, I'm glad this is you because all my boys are that way. And there's a little give on things. I don't give it unless it's going with what my plan is at the time.
19:17 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
19:18 Mike O'Hearn? I'm always getting ready. Always. And I've never not been getting ready. And well, they go, well, you don't compete anymore. And I haven't competed.
19:26 Ed Mylett? Right.
19:27 Mike O'Hearn? But I get paid to travel to shows. And this is one thing I grew up with. When I saw guest poses as a kid, they would show up and they'd be these big, fat guys on stage. And I'd be like, "Wait a minute, he doesn't look like the magazine. What's going on?" And then you do the sport and you understand there's an off-season, there's an on-season. And I got to a point where I started doing guest appearances and I'm like, "I'm gonna give him me. I wanna be me 24/7." And I was one of these guys, I'm old enough to be around before Photoshop was created. So the cover is the cover.
20:04 Ed Mylett? That's the cover.
20:05 Mike O'Hearn? The weights are the weights. There's no fake weights. You know, it's one of those things that I'm too old school to cheat.
20:11 Ed Mylett? Yeah, the process. And by the way, even though you don't compete anymore, you're still getting covers still.
20:14 Mike O'Hearn? Still getting covers, getting cover stories.
20:16 Ed Mylett? A couple of quick things.
20:17 Mike O'Hearn? But what I mean, I don't compete. I don't compete against other people, in a sense. I compete every day.
20:22 Ed Mylett? I know you do.
20:23 Mike O'Hearn? I do.
20:23 Ed Mylett? I know you do. I've seen your sessions, I've talked to you about training with you. I damn well know that you compete, dude, trust me. Do you get off?
20:29 Mike O'Hearn? Which is more fun?
20:30 Ed Mylett? I know it's more fun, by the way. I totally agree with you. And I think there's like, the reason I love fitness or I love bodybuilding is because I think, or UFC fighters I've had on here, it transcends whatever the business is. Like, if you're gonna win any business you're in, you're gonna win in your faith, you're gonna win anything, you're gonna have to compete that way. You have to compete to get there, right?
20:46 Mike O'Hearn? You gotta have that hunger and that desire to go, "I can do this. I know I can do this."
20:52 Ed Mylett? Do you get off on doing stuff, do you get off on doing stuff other guys won't do? Do you think that's why you eat cleaner, why you train? There are parties like, "I'm doing what they're not doing," so...
20:59 Mike O'Hearn? It's got worse.
21:00 Ed Mylett? What do you mean?
21:00 Mike O'Hearn? It's got worse, man. I wanna give a shout out to my boy. And it's one of these things where... When you're thinking you're giving it all.
21:09 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
21:10 Mike O'Hearn? And then somebody goes, "Ah, and I can do one more percent." And something triggers you and something fires you up even more. For my entire career, I won the universe and, and, and I hate the guys that go. Cause when I was too young, it was like, well, you can't compete against the men. Yeah, I can.
21:27 Ed Mylett? Yeah, I can.
21:28 Mike O'Hearn? And then I was at the middle ages and I was beating everybody and I was still doing the covers and I was still doing powerlifting and going to bodybuilding and doing the martial arts. And doing the gladiators and I was like, "You guys keep saying you can't do things. Who is this that says you can't? You can't model for 40 years. I'm still on the covers. So I don't, I don't, I don't get it. So now at this stage, it's like, I, I get too many people and I say, "Don't
21:53 Mike O'Hearn? change your mindset because when you come up to me and you go, "Pretty good for 35, right?" And I'm like, "For 35? Yeah, well, I got achy knees. Why do you have achy knees at 35? What's going on?"
22:07 Mike O'Hearn? So my mindset is it's not that I'm doing well for a 49, almost 50 year old guy. I'm still crushing 20 year old athletes. The elite athletes. And the point I'm trying to not yell.
22:21 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
22:21 Mike O'Hearn? And, and as you hear, I think both of us will go into, uh, the world is becoming an echo.
22:26 Ed Mylett? Yeah, you're right.
22:27 Mike O'Hearn? And, and so I'd rather be the guy.
22:29 Ed Mylett? I love this.
22:31 Mike O'Hearn? That shuts his mouth and does it.
22:32 Ed Mylett? Does it, yeah.
22:33 Mike O'Hearn? And, and, and I live my life with my dogs and my girl and I train at four in the morning and I, and I don't talk about it so much in the sense of, "Look at me."
22:43 Ed Mylett? Right, I know.
22:43 Mike O'Hearn? "I'm doing it."
22:44 Ed Mylett? Yeah, you are doing it.
22:44 Mike O'Hearn? And then if that motivates you. Awesome.
22:47 Ed Mylett? My favorite part about you is your example like screams. You don't have to say anything. It's just like so loud, like looking at you, watching you train, your example, like it just, it friggin screams, man. So you use words like crush, compete.
23:00 Mike O'Hearn? Thanks for that because it's, it's.
23:02 Ed Mylett? It's true.
23:03 Mike O'Hearn? We're around a lot of the guys that are screaming.
23:05 Ed Mylett? Oh yeah, both of us are all the time, man. And that's what makes you stand out there because you're not, you're not one of these echoes. I'll just tell you. Help someone out here for a minute, like, cause like you have dominated, but there's people who are like, let's start backwards for a second. They want to get fit. Like, they're like, "Hey, I'm not training that hard. I am 34 years old. I'm a woman. I'm a man. I need to get back. I need to get fit." There's no human on... If I put you in my interview and I didn't ask you this for them, there'll be like malpractice on my part, right? So, you have the ultimate fitness, health expert probably on the planet sitting next to me. What's like some stuff you just say, like, "Hey, man, this is what you gotta decide you're gonna do if you're gonna go get fit." Like, some basic thing you would say. Basic things.
23:46 Mike O'Hearn? Here's, uh... I think they want the pill, or the one trick. What's the trick?
23:52 Ed Mylett? Right.
23:53 Mike O'Hearn? Unfortunately, there's not a trick. There is a difference between getting ahead of time and going along with time. And now, I'm sorry for this, because they're not gonna be happy about some of this. But I'm gonna get to the point where we can all do this. If you go to the gym and you do the cardio and you eat right the day, and there's no extra plan or push, you're basically just going along with time.
24:18 Ed Mylett? Okay.
24:19 Mike O'Hearn? And now, what we're doing, and the studies we're gonna be showing the world, is what I have done is focused on something different. The bone density, which women need to weightlift more than men do.
24:31 Ed Mylett? Women need to weightlift more than men do because of bone density.
24:33 Mike O'Hearn? More, because of the bone density. And that is health.
24:35 Ed Mylett? Okay.
24:36 Mike O'Hearn? Connective tissue, because connective tissue is, as people say, the farm boy. You know, you can just grab that bale of hay and throw it up there.
24:43 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
24:44 Mike O'Hearn? Or, people are gonna say, "Well, you gotta do extra stuff to keep the testosterone high." I've never been high testosterone. Reason why I look healthy or youthful, in a sense, because the testosterone was never overblown.
24:59 Ed Mylett? Wow, okay.
25:00 Mike O'Hearn? If you walk into a gym and think the most muscular guy is the guy on the biggest steroids and the most muscular, it's not. He's not the strongest guy. I'll take a 180-pound wrestler, and he will toss a sheesh out of a 280-pound buff bodybuilder.
25:15 Ed Mylett? Right, yep, absolutely.
25:16 Mike O'Hearn? And that's connective tissue.
25:18 Ed Mylett? Okay.
25:18 Mike O'Hearn? That's man strength.
25:19 Ed Mylett? Okay.
25:20 Mike O'Hearn? Now, that's what keeps you healthy.
25:21 Ed Mylett? Okay.
25:22 Mike O'Hearn? Now, if you can focus on this and train properly to that, that is gonna allow you to get ahead.
25:29 Ed Mylett? Okay.
25:30 Mike O'Hearn? And that is gonna get you... The side effects is strength and getting in shape.
25:32 Ed Mylett? That's pretty good side effect.
25:33 Mike O'Hearn? Side effects.
25:34 Ed Mylett? Right.
25:34 Mike O'Hearn? But you're not focused on this...
25:38 Mike O'Hearn? I guess visual or instant gratification where you're just gonna lose it and you can't maintain it.
25:43 Ed Mylett? Yes, that's what everybody does.
25:44 Mike O'Hearn? That's all they do. And so what I recommend is this. First off is all food is good. If it's controlled.
25:52 Ed Mylett? Okay.
25:53 Mike O'Hearn? Okay. You're not gonna eat pizza every day and be healthy.
25:55 Ed Mylett? Right.
25:56 Mike O'Hearn? But carbs aren't bad. In today's society, carbs are so bad for you.
26:00 Ed Mylett? Yeah, right.
26:00 Mike O'Hearn? And it's like, oh, I wish you guys understood what carbs would actually do for you.
26:04 Ed Mylett? This is good to hear.
26:04 Mike O'Hearn? In a science.
26:05 Ed Mylett? Okay.
26:07 Mike O'Hearn? I want you to eat your fats. I want you to eat your carbs. I want you to have your high days or enjoy days because that's mentally something that you gotta do, or it's a reward.
26:15 Ed Mylett? Okay.
26:15 Mike O'Hearn? Because I believe in rewards. I believe in having your fun days.
26:19 Ed Mylett? Okay.
26:20 Mike O'Hearn? If that helps you get to the next level.
26:22 Ed Mylett? Okay. This is really good for you all to hear right here.
26:26 Mike O'Hearn? They're still going, wait a minute, what's the trick? The trick is that you need to pick a goal.
26:31 Ed Mylett? Okay.
26:31 Mike O'Hearn? And you need to step it up a little harder.
26:33 Ed Mylett? Okay.
26:34 Mike O'Hearn? And you need to stay consistent.
26:35 Ed Mylett? Yeah, that's the biggest one.
26:36 Mike O'Hearn? Sorry.
26:37 Ed Mylett? No, no, it's not, nothing to be sorry about because the...
26:39 Mike O'Hearn? But it's the one step forward, two steps back. I did great. You don't get high days until you get to your goal.
26:47 Ed Mylett? This is huge.
26:48 Mike O'Hearn? And I got boys in my crew that every weekend is their high day. You get a high...
26:54 Ed Mylett? You've taken all the steps back, your progress is completely erased, right?
26:57 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, unless you're getting to the goal.
26:58 Ed Mylett? Okay, this is huge.
26:59 Mike O'Hearn? Unless your metabolism slows down. So in the day when I was doing this, back in black and white days, before TV. So it was one of these things is if your metabolism slows down, that's when you bump up your calories to feed it again. As you're dieting down. And then somewhere in society that translated to every Sunday.
27:19 Ed Mylett? Yeah, I did it with every Sunday. And then it's like now she was one meal a day type thing. No, you're totally right about that.
27:25 Mike O'Hearn? So that's the only thing that I think people don't... They don't want to hear that it's consistency and it's really on yourself and it's really just doing it. You don't need to be what I'm doing. I'm trying to now prove something to myself that you can do this and you cannot just do it at a... Hey, I'm pretty good.
27:43 Ed Mylett? Right.
27:43 Mike O'Hearn? I hate the, "I'm pretty good for this age."
27:45 Ed Mylett? Right, right.
27:45 Mike O'Hearn? I hate that.
27:46 Ed Mylett? Me too.
27:47 Mike O'Hearn? Go crush them, man.
27:48 Ed Mylett? Crush them.
27:48 Mike O'Hearn? I don't care. I purposely put myself in battles with, especially right now with the football season off. I got all the guys coming in for combines or going back to play.
27:59 Ed Mylett? Yep.
28:00 Mike O'Hearn? And the whole purpose isn't really to work out. It's to out-rep, out-beat, out-speed all of them.
28:05 Ed Mylett? All of them. Those guys now that are 22 years old.
28:07 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, in their prime.
28:09 Ed Mylett? You're gonna thunder them. Let's talk about that for a second. Let's say that. So that was for the basic athlete, but there's a lot of people who follow me who are elite athletes, who are in the training business. And I was telling you before we went on, just from me even watching Mike train a little bit, and I've been training for 25 years. There's little things that you teach that I've noticed that I do wrong, that I didn't know I did wrong. Little tiny things, right? That where my elbows are placed and I'm doing an incline, just small things like that. The speed in which I do my repetitions, right? Or don't do them. And so you teach this sort of concept called like power bodybuilding. Is that sort of right?
28:40 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
28:40 Ed Mylett? Because there's a bunch of guys that don't look great that are super strong, right? There's a bunch of guys, people and ladies, who look great, who aren't strong.
28:48 Mike O'Hearn? Aren't strong.
28:49 Ed Mylett? Right? And so for the elite athlete, for the person who is a bodybuilder or is a golfer or is a fitness type person, what would you say to them? Like if you're gonna compete and crush people at your level and beyond, here's one thing. Here's a mindset. Here's a tool.
29:03 Mike O'Hearn? There, if you're going into a gym and you're moving the bench press and you're just going back and forth, or the curls, you can actually do this and do this year after year and still not develop anything.
29:13 Ed Mylett? I see these guys all the time.
29:15 Mike O'Hearn? You go to a gym, anybody goes to a gym and you go back a year later, everybody pretty much looks the same.
29:21 Ed Mylett? That's exactly right.
29:21 Mike O'Hearn? So what's going on that they're not changing?
29:24 Ed Mylett? Yes, yes.
29:25 Mike O'Hearn? It's the way you do something.
29:26 Ed Mylett? Okay.
29:27 Mike O'Hearn? And understand the purpose. If you are a pro athlete and you're getting ready for the combines, there's a portion of time where you need to slow things down. Move through it slowly. When you're starting to test, you speed up the motions. But that's for a certain sport.
29:44 Ed Mylett? Okay.
29:45 Mike O'Hearn? For me, if I bring in a power lifter to train with me, and I slow him down to where it pauses and holds, it completely destroys him.
29:54 Ed Mylett? He gets weaker.
29:55 Mike O'Hearn? Or you take a bodybuilder and you pull him in, now it's just too heavy a weight and you can't do that. Something I do is I go as heavy as I possibly can for the rep range I'm doing. So people go, "Well, you always lift heavy." Yes. So is that five reps? No, dude, we get in a battle. We'll go one rep or we'll go 100 reps. I train with some Irish guys that just don't know the word quit. So it's one of these things, it's as heavy as you're doing for the range of reps you're doing. But it's speed, it's all that, and it's range of motions. People are so... Proper squat. There's a proper squat. And there is, and I agree with that. But if you're doing that for 10 years,
30:36 Mike O'Hearn? and you never do anything where you're leaning forward, you're pulling your feet in, you're pushing your feet out a little further, you're changing the form, what are you actually doing?
30:43 Ed Mylett? I wondered that myself. Yeah.
30:45 Mike O'Hearn? So you'll see us, and we will change forms. We'll change... Here's a tricep extension. We'll go here, we'll pull it out here, we'll bring it back here, and change it all the way around. Squats are proper here. But we'll pull it inside, we'll put the pressure over the knee. Now, understand the weight is different for everything you're doing. I'm not gonna do a 700-pound squat with my knees bending over. But I will do a 300-400 for me.
31:07 Ed Mylett? Right. Yeah, don't everybody do 300-400 that way?
31:10 Mike O'Hearn? So it's the point of putting yourself in a weak position and still developing it. Because everybody's like, "Ah, my shoulders are strong and they're great, I'm gonna train those twice a week."
31:19 Ed Mylett? Yep, yep.
31:21 Mike O'Hearn? "I don't like training legs." Ah, but you're skipping something so much more important. Now, you're trying to develop a body, but you're forgetting the whole skeleton.
31:30 Ed Mylett? Okay.
31:31 Mike O'Hearn? So these are the concepts of power bodybuilding.
31:33 Ed Mylett? This is huge. I love this. You just gave me permission to change things. Because what I do, I do it the same way all the time for that reason. I don't vary my spacing or anything like that. That's really a big deal.
31:41 Mike O'Hearn? Which is tougher to do now, because if you post something that's incorrect...
31:44 Ed Mylett? That's what I get.
31:44 Mike O'Hearn? On social media.
31:45 Ed Mylett? You're right.
31:46 Mike O'Hearn? Suddenly, you're doing that wrong, you're gonna hurt yourself.
31:50 Ed Mylett? Okay, good. I feel much better about that.
31:51 Mike O'Hearn? Do you, man? We're good over here.
31:53 Ed Mylett? So good. Alright, let's go a couple more things here. Like, this is so valuable for people because they're in the mindset of a champion because I think one of the words I'd use for you is obsessed. And I think your obsessions become your possessions. I think you were obsessed with becoming this version of you. I just believe that. I think at some age there, whether it was eight, nine, seventeen, or whatever, you became obsessed with being this person that you've become, right? And so now you possess him. And now you're in this hunt to improve him even more, right?
32:17 Mike O'Hearn? I like that. Just cut that clip for me.
32:19 Ed Mylett? Right. It's the effect, though, man. It's like, it's very, very true. So, you've also transcended multiple industries, though. So it's not like you just did one thing, right? So, you did American Gladiator, right? He's only got to do both programs of American Gladiator. He's been in the fitness business. He's also done well in business. He owns different real estate. He's done well in the business world, too. But you also are an actor, right? And so, he's pursuing some things right now. Maybe you'll share with us a little bit, but like, they're gonna redo Conan, aren't they?
32:44 Mike O'Hearn? They are redoing Conan. Amazon is doing it.
32:47 Ed Mylett? And so, how are you involved with that, hopefully? I mean, like, this is an outcome of yours, right? This is a goal of yours, fair to say?
32:54 Mike O'Hearn? This is. Oh, acting's always been. And like, my first movie was Death Becomes Her with Bruce Willis. And Goldie Hawn and Meryl Streep. I actually got felt up by Meryl Streep.
33:03 Ed Mylett? That's hot.
33:04 Mike O'Hearn? So it was like, "Look at those things!" Um, she grabbed me. So, just politically correct, she grabbed me.
33:08 Ed Mylett? There's no, there's no, yeah.
33:10 Mike O'Hearn? But, yeah, I've been acting since nineteen ninety and it's something I love. And yes, Gladiator's the original, but I was still athletic enough when I got the second Gladiator. Now, here's the funny thing.
33:21 Ed Mylett? This is interesting right here.
33:22 Mike O'Hearn? No one will know this.
33:23 Ed Mylett? Got it.
33:23 Mike O'Hearn? Uh, or some, a small percentage will know this. They called me up for the new Gladiators and said, "Hey, you're on the show." And I go, "No, I'm not. Let me try out like everybody else tries out. If I deserve it, I deserve it." Um, then I went out, and you can see it online, and I destroyed all the tests. And there was over twenty thousand people tried back out for it.
33:45 Ed Mylett? And you did? How old were you when the second time?
33:47 Mike O'Hearn? I think, uh, it was two thousand and eight came out, so it was ten years ago.
33:51 Ed Mylett? Forty years.
33:51 Mike O'Hearn? And so I came out and I did thirty-five pull-ups and I ran a four-seven forty. And so, it was one of those things, I, it's not-
33:58 Ed Mylett? What did you weigh when you ran a four-seven?
33:59 Mike O'Hearn? Two-seventy-five.
34:00 Ed Mylett? Come on, man!
34:02 Mike O'Hearn? So I didn't want to just get something handed, I wanted to fight for this.
34:05 Ed Mylett? There it is again.
34:06 Mike O'Hearn? I love the fight.
34:07 Ed Mylett? Two more. Yeah. There's a running theme here though. This is good. Okay.
34:11 Mike O'Hearn? So those are great, but I've been doing some fun shows like Workaholics and Sunny in Philadelphia and Guest Spots and daytime TV and soap operas. And so now we're up for He-Man and the remaking Conan. So the crazy hair is fitting right now.
34:27 Ed Mylett? That's so huge. I'm excited for you.
34:29 Mike O'Hearn? I'm hoping. But it's fun. It's a fun battle and regardless of what when I tell people, they go, "What keeps you motivated?" And I try to say, "I know what keeps me motivated. It won't make them motivated, but if you're passionate about something, and I don't care how small it is, to you, it might be something big. And I'll give you something so minute to most people, but it was so big to me. That you will continue to work out, you will continue to eat right, you will continue to go and make right choices about things. And push you beyond any limit that you possibly think is possible. You'll get up every morning going, "I don't want to work out today." You'll be up going,
35:09 Mike O'Hearn? "No, I got that." That thing is right in your frontal lobe and you're passionate about it. And that's what's going to keep you training and dieting right. So I got a puppy, 18 years old. And there's, it's a huge part of me because of the fact that not only is she my dog, my first adult dog, and she's 18.
35:35 Ed Mylett? Your whole face just changed.
35:36 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, I know, man. I'm gonna cry now. Instant.
35:39 Ed Mylett? Your whole face just changed.
35:42 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, I know, I know. It's my heart. And I trained harder and I've trained harder in the last six months to a point where I was better than I ever was when I won the universe. Now, this is 20 years later, I decided to get in the best shape of my life. So what triggered it? What was different? Maybe mature muscle in my consistency, but there had to be something that drove me to a different level. I'm pretty obsessed, as is. I was beyond obsessed. Was it Christmas that I fasted?
36:22 Mike O'Hearn? So, as everybody else is going through Christmas and New Years, my goal was New Years. I want to look better than I've ever looked in my life. And the only passion I had is that I'm losing my puppy. And that I wanted to spend time with her and I want to be able to hold her and kind of show her, to me, that made sense. And it's something minute to somebody else. Mostly if you have a kid, it should be tenfold.
36:47 Ed Mylett? Yep, yep.
36:48 Mike O'Hearn? So, I got in the best shape of my life to the point of where, I don't care if it was Jay Cutler or Kai Green going, "What the heck?"
36:58 Ed Mylett? Right, yeah.
36:59 Mike O'Hearn? "This shouldn't be done."
37:00 Ed Mylett? Yeah, right.
37:01 Mike O'Hearn? "What are you doing? How do you look like..."
37:03 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
37:04 Mike O'Hearn? And so, again, it's a puppy, it's me, it's motivation, it's passion, and I got to a place that I've never got in my life. But it's, I can attach things to me on goals-
37:16 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
37:17 Mike O'Hearn? -that are so much more meaningful and deep. And it's not a trophy!
37:19 Ed Mylett? No, it's what you just did. Here's what it is, man. It's the, um, the goal's huge, the passion's huge, and, you know, you're a freak. Like, you're, there's freaks running around the world. I'd like to think that I'm one of them, right? Like, your discipline level's freakish, your competition level. But when you give someone who's already a freak a massive reason attached to their goal, it goes ballistic. It just, to attach a massive, compelling, emotional reason, right? Is this the puppy you're telling me about from the first shoot? Is that the puppy?
37:43 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, yeah.
37:44 Ed Mylett? Just so you know, because all these people say, all these alpha males, me and him were talking about this beforehand, right? You either get us talking about either our kids or our dogs and we just melt. Any man, right? So, just tell them why, because that reason's huge, but also how big this dude's heart is? Like, how did you end up with her in the first place?
38:00 Mike O'Hearn? Photo shoot, uh, Millennium cover, uh, so I go to the photo shoot and it's Muscle and Fitness. Nothing out of the, you know, different, except I was honored to be on the Millennium cover, the 2000. That was great. Joe Weider calls me, goes, "Out of everybody in the world, you're the guy."
38:16 Ed Mylett? How cool.
38:17 Mike O'Hearn? And I'm like, "Dude, this is awesome." Show up, I'm excited, uh, they pull out little two puppies, and, uh, I shoot with the two puppies all day long, and then at the end of the photo shoot, they're like, "All right, we're gonna take these pups back to the pound." And I'm like, "Ah, that ain't gonna happen." I thought they were actually somebody's- Puppies that they brought to the photo shoot.
38:38 Ed Mylett? And in the pound, everybody, tell them what pound is.
38:39 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, I don't know. You guys didn't even know what a pound is. It's an old term that they would keep the dogs for maybe 21 days and then put the dogs down. And so, uh, when they said that, I was like, no, here, here's uh, some money and, and I took the puppies home.
38:53 Ed Mylett? Yeah, and that's the puppy that he's referring to that's his reason to this day.
38:57 Mike O'Hearn? So for everybody that's 18 years old, that dog's been alive as long as that and still with me and.
39:02 Ed Mylett? Because I think that's an elite thing. Like first off, it shows your heart. Like one of the things that like struck me about you is like, this is a big study dude. Like you're really just this humble, super sweet, good dude. Like you kind of talk a lot of smack, but he's like this really gentle, really kind dude who could just break you in half, right? But, but what's what you, if you're an elite person out there and you're, you're already doing very well. Like he was already one of the most fit men on the planet. How do you go to that next level, like that crazy freak level? It's a bigger reason. It's gonna be, because your disciplines are there, your habits are there, your rituals are there, your obsession's already there if you're at that level. The only separator is to have a bigger reason, whether that's another competition, something you're trying to surpass. Usually, big reasons are your dreams or other people or a pet. Those are your bigger reasons. That's what you did. You put that formula together. So.
39:46 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah.
39:47 Ed Mylett? We're running, I feel like we flew by here, man.
39:49 Mike O'Hearn? That was way too fast. We didn't cover anything.
39:50 Ed Mylett? We know. We're gonna do, we're gonna do like three of these. We talked about this before, but let me ask you a question. So two things to finish. Someone said to you, because I think like, it's rare that you put someone who's the best on the planet at something in front of you, like on the earth spinning right now. And we said, who in the last 25 years, let's say, take that window of time, just that basic window of time, which is a fair window. Who's probably the healthiest, fittest person, the icon that sustained it, grown it and got more fit and also helped more people get there too that he trains with? It would be this human, right? Sitting next to me. So what does that, I know we've talked a lot about it, but like it's, it's hard to describe yourself. I have a hard time doing it. It's like, I'm not even sure how I am. You know, I'm just that way, right?
40:31 Ed Mylett? But let me ask you something, seriously. What's that mindset like? Like, don't sugarcoat it. No BS. Don't be humble. Is it just like you want to crush everybody? Is it you're trying to chase the best you? Is it just like this stacking of disciplines that's built you into this thing? Like what is it? That's like this world-class mindset you hold? Do you know?
40:52 Mike O'Hearn? Um, I would say it's, it's, I want to be the very, the number one guy. I want people to be able to say, hey, I want to do a Mike O'Hearn. I want to be like Mike O'Hearn when I'm that. And, and.
41:02 Ed Mylett? In whatever it is.
41:04 Mike O'Hearn? It's just that long period of time.
41:06 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
41:06 Mike O'Hearn? And it's not just, I don't want you guys to sit there and I, I guess I want people to live what I've lived. And stop giving the excuses and stop saying, ah, I'm 30 now, it's downhill from here.
41:17 Ed Mylett? I'm doing pretty good.
41:18 Mike O'Hearn? College, I peaked and then it's that, it's like, there's a, there's a thing called science. And there's a, science will show you what's possible, what's not possible. There is something that's called heart that can break that and something that can set it apart. And I'm just saying that the one thing that we're doing now, and, and I'm lucky enough to be around, is to be around doctors and science and actually doing tests now going, why is, why is it that I got to be able to do this? For such a long period of time and not just as a average Joe. Cause everybody's like, as long as I can be healthy, fuck healthy, I'm sorry.
41:55 Ed Mylett? It's alright.
41:55 Mike O'Hearn? Bleep that out, but be a freaking superhero for your whole life.
41:59 Ed Mylett? Yes.
42:00 Mike O'Hearn? And then, so I guess for me, it's consistency is me describing myself. Um, but the hunger to be the very number one.
42:08 Ed Mylett? Yes, yes. What's the next five or 10 years look like for you, do you think? We know what the past looked like, we know what the present looks like, what, but we're, we're gonna do more of these, but I'm gonna have you back here in five years.
42:17 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, I think.
42:18 Ed Mylett? What do you think?
42:19 Mike O'Hearn? I love the, um, purchasing properties and commercial real estate. I love this and it's something that, again, I think you agree with this. You can be around, uh, your friends, but you need some elite people that are raising you up and, and I've got that. And I've had that, um, in the last 10 years, my life has completely changed to the point of where, uh, I'm doing all charity. And, and I'm around guys that are better than me.
42:44 Ed Mylett? Yeah.
42:44 Mike O'Hearn? In other facets. And, and they make you stand up and go, listen, this, this is great, what you're doing, but I need you here.
42:51 Ed Mylett? Yes.
42:51 Mike O'Hearn? This is what you need to do. Now you need to man up.
42:53 Ed Mylett? You all need these people in your life.
42:54 Mike O'Hearn? Yeah. And so I, I.
42:56 Ed Mylett? You gonna buy more property? You think, we think we see in movies?
42:59 Mike O'Hearn? More properties, uh, leads in movies, um, and continue to travel the world and talk.
43:03 Ed Mylett? Yeah. Um, do you think you'd be even more fit?
43:05 Mike O'Hearn? I do. I, I, listen, I'm, I'm, as much as I got crazy this year, I already told my girl. And I said, I want to even be better than I was for New Years.
43:14 Ed Mylett? I love this, brother. I love, you inspire me.
43:16 Mike O'Hearn? Thanks, man.
43:17 Ed Mylett? No, you inspire me. You do. Like, you're inspiring to me. This is, I can tell you straight up.
43:21 Mike O'Hearn? That's a fun, that's a fun love, oh, is this your ride?
43:24 Ed Mylett? Yeah, this is how you're getting home.
43:25 Mike O'Hearn? Helicopter's coming in, guys.
43:27 Ed Mylett? Right over the ocean.
43:28 Mike O'Hearn? Um, yeah, we're gonna do more of this. This one too fast, but I just something that. When you can push somebody that's already at a pinnacle level, that's badass.
43:37 Ed Mylett? It is badass. And that's why I try to surround myself with guys like you. And like you just said, that's such a, that's part of the formula, everybody, is that you surround yourself with people who do make you better. Whatever the industry is, it doesn't even matter. They just make you want to be better by their example, not their yelling and screaming, right?
43:51 Mike O'Hearn? Thank you for saying that, though.
43:53 Ed Mylett? It's a fact. The other thing I want to tell everybody that when you're listening to Mike, there's a uniqueness to him that I want to point out, is that not only can he do these things, but he can articulate them. That's rare for an athlete. It's rare for a business person to be able to articulate it. The reason I point that out to you is, you can get Mike to come speak to your organization. You can have him come talk to your group. He can come do, he can do inspirational talks, fitness talks. This is someone that you ought to bring into your company to have speak to you. And he's also somebody that just by following him on social media will alter your life. You will have no excuses. You will be inspired, right? You will see one of the great lives being lived, but there's also all this fitness stuff, all this information out there. How would they find you online in order to stay in contact with you? What's the best place?
44:33 Mike O'Hearn? Really easy. You search Mike O'Hearn and you find everything.
44:36 Ed Mylett? Okay.
44:36 Mike O'Hearn? I got it governed.
44:38 Ed Mylett? He's got it governed. But I like, major league YouTube stuff's crazy. Instagram's ballistic, and your website, right?
44:44 Mike O'Hearn? It's going crazy, yeah. But you can get ahold of me any of those ways.
44:49 Mike O'Hearn? Something I love, and I love today, but we got to do it again.
44:53 Ed Mylett? Okay.
44:53 Mike O'Hearn? You got to promise me and them, you're going to come train with me?
44:56 Ed Mylett? Oh, I'm training with you. Absolutely. No, we're down, baby.
44:59 Mike O'Hearn? All right. And we're going to go skinny dip right now.
45:01 Ed Mylett? He has been begging for this for like two hours, so I'm following him.
45:04 Mike O'Hearn? Family guys, so what?
45:05 Ed Mylett? All right. Well, I hope you enjoyed. Thank you, brother.
45:07 Mike O'Hearn? Thank you, brother.
45:08 Ed Mylett? It was so good today. I enjoyed it so much. And I know there's so much great content for all of you. So listen, everybody, I hope you enjoyed the program today. Want to ask you to do me one favor. I bring you the best people in the world.
45:19 Mike O'Hearn? You keep talking.
45:19 Ed Mylett? Tell them who this is, though. Because she's been watching the whole interview, so tell them who this is.
45:23 Mike O'Hearn? This is Stryker.
45:24 Ed Mylett? Look at Stryker. This is the most beautiful. Oh, look at her eyes.
45:27 Mike O'Hearn? If you do follow me, you'll see that I travel the world with her. And this little superstar does more for the world than I do.
45:35 Ed Mylett? Look at those eyes. My goodness. Those are ocean eyes, by the way. Just like the ocean. Anyway, I'm glad she was here today. Mona's also been here watching us. And so, everybody, do me one favor. Rank and review this podcast when you see it. If you see it, make a comment. And if you're listening to it, give it a review. It'll move up. More people around the world will get access to this information. I hope you enjoyed today. Max out your life, everybody.
46:00 Speaker 03 Ed Milat is the premier inspirational speaker, life coach, and peak performance expert in the United States today.
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