Season 9: Best of (Part 4)

In this “Best of Season 9” episode, Bunnie introduces her new pup, Moon Cake, and shares the wild story of rescuing her. The convo takes a spooky twist with the mysterious disappearance of the Annabelle doll. Dr. Leah Cordovez joins to talk women’s health, covering endometriosis and perimenopause. TJ Osborne from Brothers Osborne opens up about his mental health struggles, coming out, and finding peace. Roseanne Barr shares their spiritual journey, the challenges of being a truth teller, and how faith transformed their life. Wiz Khalifa swings by to talk music, MMA, psychedelics, and his vision for the ultimate strip club. The episode wraps with hilarious banter about aliens and strip club rules. Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com https://www.dumbblondeunrated.com/

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 0:42Bunnie XO?

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• 0:49Speaker 01

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• 1:01Speaker 02

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• 1:31Bunnie XO?

  Hey guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I don't think you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. We have the Bunny XO Show, we have Meet the DeForts, we have Popaganda, we have more shows that we're adding, and not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Head over to www.patreon.com/dumblon podcast and sign up. Bunny XO. She's a Vegas queen. Bunny XO. She changed my life. Dumb Blonde Podcast.

• 2:04Speaker 03

  And Bunny XO. Kelly Rose White.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  Bunny XO.

• 2:07Speaker 04

  Miss Bunny. Bunny XO.

• 2:09Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, it's the coven, baby. Hi. Hello. You guys get low energy today. I've been going through it, man, so I am... Not feeling great. How are you guys?

• 2:28Speaker 04

  I've been feeling weird too.

• 2:30Bunnie XO?

  I know, you poor baby. What is going on, man?

• 2:33Speaker 04

  I know what mine is from.

• 2:35Speaker 05

  I think it's in the air.

• 2:36Speaker 04

  We both had a breakdown the same night and didn't even know it until like two days after.

• 2:41Speaker 05

  And like three other people I know also couldn't sleep that day and had like weird vibes. And I was like, I was like, maybe it's something with the moon. And then Mimi sent me a video about like,

• 2:52Speaker 04

  Clouds and all kinds of different stuff. Yeah, very conspiracy theorist of me, but yeah, same exact night. I ended up on the couch in a ball and even Olivia was like, nobody talk, mom is sleeping. I could hear her because like I just had like the blanket up to my eyes on the couch.

• 3:07Bunnie XO?

  What happened?

• 3:08Speaker 04

  I just had a, and it was like a light switch.

• 3:11Speaker 05

  No, literally like, I told you, I got depressed out of nowhere. Like I'm talking like very depressed. Like, when I was on that live Saturday night, anytime someone asks a question, I just want to start crying.

• 3:22Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 3:24Speaker 04

  It's so weird. It's so weird. It would be the same day. It was the twenty sixth?

• 3:29Speaker 05

  Twenty fourth.

• 3:29Speaker 04

  Twenty fourth. It was the twenty fourth.

• 3:31Bunnie XO?

  I think it's time we all, well, I, I know what's causing mine, but I think you guys need to get your hormones checked.

• 3:36Speaker 04

  I do.

• 3:37Bunnie XO?

  You guys are at that age and plus you guys, you will, are you still on the GLP one? You're on the, on the, did she?

• 3:45Speaker 05

  You farted?

• 3:46Bunnie XO?

  You're on the GLP one. So that is gonna wreck your hormones too, or help that your hormones, you never know. So I think you need to, is it that bad?

• 3:55Speaker 04

  I'm gonna.

• 3:59Bunnie XO?

  You guys are the ones who wanted to bring the dog. So, and I haven't even talked about the dog or introduced her on line yet.

• 4:05Speaker 05

  Should I, oh, should I just hold her up?

• 4:08Bunnie XO?

  You guys, welcome to the family. Mooncake D Ford. I'm her Babs. This is Bailey's dog.

• 4:18Bunnie XO?

  That we saved. Should I tell the story?

• 4:20Speaker 05

  Bailey might not have a dog anymore.

• 4:22Bunnie XO?

  I know. I listened. I offered her to you first and you said no. She's having regret. Buyer's regret. She's like, I should have done it.

• 4:28Speaker 05

  No, it was gonna be this one.

• 4:29Bunnie XO?

  Alright, so let me tell you guys the story behind this really quick. I know I'm gonna get some hate for this and it's okay. Growing up in Vegas, puppy stores are a staple. I never knew anything other than puppy stores. I knew puppy stores. Literally. There's a puppy store, there was a puppy store on every corner. Growing up in Vegas, if you are from Vegas, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

• 4:56Bunnie XO?

  And, you know, anytime I was sad, anytime I just wanted to go and find a new dog, I didn't know anything about like breeders or like rescuing puppies or anything like that, we would go to pet stores. So, long story short,

• 5:14Bunnie XO?

  there, we were in Vegas this last time that we were out there and we had, I had been away from Chachi and the animals and I was just like, oh my God, I just need to go see the puppies and maybe if there's one that I want to bring home, then we'll get it. And to me, I'm sorry, in a way, I feel like that's rescuing puppies too. Out of a bad situation. Out of a bad situation, yeah. Now that I know what I know about rescues and stuff like that, I also do feel like I'm rescuing an animal out of that situation. That's how we got Bussy. I literally told my husband, I'm feeling sad, I'm gonna walk into a pet store and if they have a Basset Hound, I'm gonna buy the Basset Hound. Lo and behold, I walk into the frickin' pet store, Bussy's right there and they never have Basset Hounds, ever.

• 5:59Bunnie XO?

  He was so big, his ears were huge. Yeah. He was so little. And, and Bussy was the best addition to our family and we love him so much. So anyways, I was sad, we were all in Vegas and I was missing my animals and I'm like, let's just go, you know, look at some puppies. So we walk in and instantly it's all these frou-frou dogs. I hate frou-frou dogs. You guys know I love Bulldogs. I just love an aesthetically pleasing animal. Um, to me, a frou-frou dog is not aesthetically pleasing at all. But, I look across the, the room and I see the prettiest like bluish green eyes looking back at me and like the just happiest little demeanor.

• 6:40Bunnie XO?

  And I walk over to her and I'm like, what is this dog's name? And the lady goes, mooncake. And I was like, oh my God, that is a perfect name because we literally have crunch, smore, and then also I love the moon. I'm always talking about the moon and I used to have a bulldog named Bocephus moon, um, which my friend Shelby has right now. But anyways, um, we pull her out and I'm playing with her and I'm just like, oh my God, you're the cutest thing ever. I find out she's an Aquarius, right? So I called Jay and I'm like, babe, I think I'm gonna bring home another dog. And he's like, I need a new dog, airplane dog. We have bus dog. I need airplane dog now. And I'm like, no, you don't get an airplane dog. I was like, but I might bring this, this dog home. And he's like, get her, get her, get her. And I'm like, okay, cool.

• 7:25Bunnie XO?

  So I'm just looking at her and I'm just like, I don't know, man. You just don't fit the aesthetic. I just don't know if I like you like that. Like, I just really was just having an internal struggle with it. And I was just like, you know, we already have so many animals at home. We don't need to add another dog. We're trying to have a baby, you know, like, no, this is just not gonna work out. Jay's on the phone, get the fucking dog. I'm like, I'm not getting the dog. He's such a bad influence when it comes to animals. Literally, he's such a bad, he'll tell you to get the animal and then never talk to it again. Yeah. Literally. Um, so anyways, I leave the pet store, un, you know, just sad about the whole thing. I really just wanted to, you know, bring one of the puppies home.

• 8:08Bunnie XO?

  But I was just like, you know what? I'm making the right decision and I'm not contributing to a pet store and, you know. Comes home and talks about it and was like, you guys, this dog. Trying to break the habit, right? And so I come home and I talk to them and I'm just like, I went and saw this dog and she was the cutest thing. Like, I just was like, I felt torn about it, but I was just like, I'm putting my foot down. I'm not gonna support a pet store and whatever. So I come home and I still kinda thought about the dog a little bit. And I was just like, I wonder if she's okay, whatever. I opened my phone up on Instagram one day. And I'm not gonna say the name of the pet store, but.

• 8:45Bunnie XO?

  There's a, an, a, a story, a post about a pet store in Las Vegas that is literally putting the animals in, um, Storage containers. Storage containers. And it happened to be the fucking pet store that I saw Mooncake at. And I was like, oh my God, I left this fucking dog there to die. Like, I felt so bad. I was for sure thinking like, somebody had gotten her, whatever. I hit Mimi and Haley and I was like, are you guys, can you guys believe this? And I was just like, oh, my heart was breaking. And I was like, I made the wrong fucking decision. I made the wrong fucking decision. I felt so bad. And I'm like, if she's there, I'm gonna fucking get

• 9:29Bunnie XO?

  her. So I called the fucking pet store and I'm like, hi guys, I was in there a couple of weeks ago. Is Mooncake still available? And she's like, yes, she is. And I was like, oh my God, I want her. And I was like, but I'm in Nashville, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, trying to devise a plan. Jay's gonna fly one of, you know, our employees out there to pick her, to pick her up. And I'm just like, I can't just leave the dog there. I can't leave more dogs there. Like, I need to get more dogs. So I'm like, Tasha, do you want a puppy? And she's like, yeah, I want a puppy. So I found Tasha a puppy, um, this beautiful Merle cocker spaniel from the same pet store. And I called Jesse and I'm like, hello. And she's like, hi. And I'm like, so. And I told her the whole story about the dogs, whatever. And she's like, oh my God, I'm on my way right now. And I'm

• 10:12Bunnie XO?

  like, okay, and I'll fly you out here, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, and in the meantime, if you want a dog too, I'll get you one too, so that we can rescue these dogs. And she's like, oh my God, I've been wanting to get Sully a, a friend and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, cool. So she literally immediately stops everything, gets off her, her live, because we know, we know Jesse locked her live. And she fucking goes down to these pet stores, finds a wiener dog that she falls in love with. I'm like, cool, that's your dog. We, we get the cocker spaniel and we secure Mooncake. Jesse is literally two hours in on this fucking deal, hops on a plane with two fucking animals and comes straight to my door by midnight the same day and we rescued three of the doggies. Yeah, I don't, listen, I don't.

• 10:56Bunnie XO?

  Like talking shit about things that I don't know the whole story. I just know what I saw and I just sprung into action because I'm just like, fuck no. Like this is not gonna happen. You know karma will get, if that's really what's happening over there karma will definitely get them. You can't treat animals like that. Like what the fuck?

• 11:13Speaker 04

  And it's already being brought to the light because that's how you saw it. It's been across your feed. So if someone is out there doing their due diligence to find the truth in that situation.

• 11:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 11:23Speaker 05

  They saved the baby.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  Did you guys see that Annabelle's missing?

• 11:26Bunnie XO?

  Yes. Wait, what?

• 11:28Speaker 05

  You didn't know that?

• 11:29Bunnie XO?

  No, I knew that they moved her to New Orleans.

• 11:32Speaker 05

  And then that burnt down. And then um, that one.

• 11:35Speaker 04

  Sending it to you right now.

• 11:36Speaker 05

  Who's house burnt down?

• 11:38Bunnie XO?

  I, I know about those in New Orleans, right?

• 11:41Speaker 05

  Someone's like, did she visit that one too? And then apparently, yeah, she's missing.

• 11:45Bunnie XO?

  How is a doll just missing?

• 11:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, so this explains it. Or, oh, you want me to send it to your TikTok? Okay.

• 11:54Speaker 05

  Um. We need to go to New Orleans.

• 11:56Bunnie XO?

  Not right now, not while that bitch is on the loose?

• 12:02Bunnie XO?

  What are you talking about? We're in the rental and we just look in the backseat and there's. And she's hanging on like chucking her deer life, just fucking riding the waves of the wind with the wind in her hair. No, I'm good. Not while, let's get her contained and then maybe yes. Shit. I already got enough weird spooky shit going on in my life. You know what I'm saying?

• 12:23Speaker 06

  The animal doll is missing. She was on her way to Chicago to continue her world tour and somehow has been misplaced. Listen, Lorraine tried to warn you. She said this doll should never be moved because it's extremely dangerous and could unleash evil spirits. A day after she left New Orleans, also ten prisoners escaped around the same time she was there. Now, the last set date of her going anywhere was in Texas on the seventeenth, which was a couple of days ago. Now, it isn't fully official that she is missing, but according to a lot of people, they don't know where she is. Arguably, one of the most haunted dolls in reported history, said to have people who have looked at her long enough get into insane car accidents and almost lose their life because they ended up seeing her in their rearview mirror. This is not a doll that I would.

• 13:00Speaker 04

  You're in the rearview mirror like you just said?

• 13:03Bunnie XO?

  No, thank you.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  Can we talk about the fact that Annabelle's on a world tour?

• 13:07Bunnie XO?

  Is that a world tour or a girls tour? Like what is happening? What is fucking, who's, who's fucking mastermind?

• 13:15Speaker 05

  Who's her PR?

• 13:16Bunnie XO?

  Idea was behind, like, let's take this fucking crazy ass demonic doll on a tour to fucking terrorize every city she goes in.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  And like that building burns down.

• 13:28Speaker 05

  Someone probably burnt the doll.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  Like, what? That's scary, you guys.

• 13:32Speaker 05

  Did you see the videos? It literally looked like spirits leaving that plantation, though.

• 13:37Bunnie XO?

  No, I didn't see that. I saw, I knew that it was burned. I didn't see the video, though. But what, um, where was she before she went on her fucking world tour?

• 13:45Speaker 04

  Oh, I have no idea.

• 13:47Speaker 05

  Isn't she in that one museum?

• 13:49Bunnie XO?

  Let's find out, because was she, like, contained, or was she, like?

• 13:53Speaker 05

  She's always in this, like, glass box.

• 13:56Bunnie XO?

  So her being behind a glass box keeps her from blowing shit up, or?

• 14:01Speaker 06

  But how did she get out?

• 14:02Speaker 05

  Spirits.

• 14:03Speaker 04

  No, it's like, where did she live?

• 14:06Speaker 06

  Where does Annabelle live?

• 14:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, where did Annabelle live before her world tour?

• 14:11Speaker 06

  Where did?

• 14:13Speaker 04

  This schedule.

• 14:15Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  Can we book her?

• 14:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. No.

• 14:18Speaker 05

  Can't she come on the podcast?

• 14:19Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 14:21Speaker 04

  Oh, she lived in a museum in Connecticut. She was transported to New Orleans for a paranormal tour return.

• 14:29Speaker 05

  Before being returned to Connecticut. So she got lost in Texas?

• 14:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, in transit. She's now missing.

• 14:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, the Warrens Museum. The Warrens were the ones that were in Conjuring.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  Those are the, that couple that went to the Conjuring house.

• 14:45Speaker 04

  No, thank you. Don't want it.

• 14:47Speaker 05

  Which is real.

• 14:48Bunnie XO?

  What's the backstory, though? Like, why is she so possessed? Do we know? Because I've, I've always heard about how she's so crazy, and they have movies about her, right?

• 14:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:57Bunnie XO?

  But why is she so possessed? Like, what made her this fucking crazy doll?

• 15:03Speaker 05

  Isn't there a spirit of a little girl in her or something, but it takes on a, yeah, a demon?

• 15:07Bunnie XO?

  Was the little girl, like?

• 15:08Speaker 04

  A demon who's used to manipulate and terrorize humans.

• 15:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but how did she get possessed? Why and why did they choose this doll? You know, like there's a re- spirits don't just hop into shit.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  Vessel, the demon manipulates the doll to appear possessed by a young girl tricking its owners.

• 15:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:25Speaker 04

  The demon uses the doll to terrorize owners, creating a climate of fear. The demon tricks its owners. So why?

• 15:32Bunnie XO?

  It's using the doll.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  Why the rag doll, though?

• 15:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's what I'm not understanding.

• 15:36Speaker 05

  Well, it was from a long, long time ago, so that might have been the only thing like around, maybe? But that's why I hate dolls. I hate statues, dolls, gnomes, anything like that. porcelain dolls? Bye.

• 15:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I've never been a doll person either.

• 15:53Speaker 04

  It says that Annabelle doll is considered evil because of, according to the warrants, it was not possessed by a child spirit, but by a demon seeking to possess a human. It was not the doll itself that was evil, but the demonic entity that used it as a.

• 16:06Speaker 05

  The doll as a vessel.

• 16:07Speaker 04

  Wow. What does it say right underneath this, though? Because there is another part, keep going down. Where right here it says why they say that the doll behaved strangely and a psychic medium told the student. The doll was inhabited by the spirit of a deceased girl named, oh, so the girl was named Annabelle.

• 16:27Bunnie XO?

  Okay, and was she like abused? Like, why is she so fucking just ready to fuck everybody up?

• 16:33Speaker 04

  Behavior. What made the Annabelle doll evil? Click on that.

• 16:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I feel like we're learning a lot about Annabelle.

• 16:40Speaker 04

  Conjuring universe?

• 16:43Speaker 04

  All right.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  Um, according to the warrants, the original Annabelle doll was purchased as a gift and soon after strange and unsettling occurrences began. Leading them to believe that it was demonic.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  Um, we can totally keep our relationship private.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  No, do you want to or no?

• 17:03Speaker 03

  No, no, I'm fine.

• 17:04Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I don't want to like out you two.

• 17:06Speaker 04

  No, I wanted to brag to everybody. What are you kidding? You fucking put up with my shit all the time.

• 17:11Bunnie XO?

  Like

• 17:12Speaker 03

  What shit? No, there's no shit.

• 17:14Bunnie XO?

  I literally have a crisis every fucking week.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 17:17Bunnie XO?

  Every week I'm texting this woman. I'm like, what is happening? I have a new one. I have a new one I haven't even texted you about. I freaking have like this pain in my left side. That is gonna be graphic, I'm sorry.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  Wait, are you recording? Yep. Oh, are you? Okay. No, no, do it.

• 17:35Bunnie XO?

  Okay. We can do it on, no, we can do it on the podcast. Cause I have no shame. Alright, so I was just about to tell you guys my ailment, but let me welcome my favorite human in the world.

• 17:45Speaker 03

  Ah.

• 17:45Bunnie XO?

  Dr. Leah Cordovez, but I call her Dr. C. And this woman, I'm telling you, is just a gift from God. And I, once you guys hear her story and actually get to like, hear her speak today on the podcast, you guys are gonna fall in love with her just as much as I am. Dr. C, thank you for being here.

• 18:02Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me, it's so cool.

• 18:03Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I'm happy to have you here. You just have always had the best energy.

• 18:07Speaker 03

  Ah, thank you.

• 18:08Bunnie XO?

  It's, it's amazing. So, I was just going into, why I love you so much too, is because I literally call you every week with a crisis. You're, you're like my personal doctor. So, anytime I have an ailment, which is every day, I literally text this woman freaking out. I'm like, do I need a CAT scan? Do I need to do this? What's happened? Like last week, my eye, that was a crazy thing that was going on with my eye. And she healed it, it was fine. And she always is so calm. You're so calm. Like when I call you freaking out, you're just like, no, this is how you gotta do it. Let's do this, don't freak out, everything's fine. So, yeah.

• 18:46Speaker 03

  Well, calm, it doesn't come easy, but it comes with time. And all of the things that you send me are super easy. It's so much better to just call me, don't, don't even worry about freaking out. I've seen everything at least 10 times.

• 18:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:00Speaker 03

  So it makes it easy.

• 19:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so I was just telling you about my new ailment. So, while you're here, let's talk about it.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  What you got?

• 19:05Bunnie XO?

  I keep having this pain on my left hand side when I orgasm. When I poop and sometimes when I pee, it like, and I, I've Googled it and they said it's diverticulitis.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 19:19Bunnie XO?

  And I'm like freaking out now because you know how I am. I try to fix things.

• 19:24Speaker 03

  So just at rest, it doesn't hurt?

• 19:26Bunnie XO?

  No, at rest, it doesn't hurt. But if I'm pushing out or if my muscles are spasming, it hurts.

• 19:31Speaker 03

  So that means that something moving in there has to, has to move to, so something has to move in there to irritate it. Which means it's probably something that's inflamed, a ligament, a muscle. It might be a little bit of an ovarian cyst, but something is irritated in there.

• 19:47Bunnie XO?

  Up here this high?

• 19:49Speaker 03

  It could be.

• 19:49Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  Your hip flexor can be up that high. But if it's something that comes and goes, and I tell everybody this, the bad, bad things come and stay.

• 20:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're not gonna come, say, hi, I'll be back next week. If it's really bad, it's gonna come and stay. Diverticulitis doesn't let you go.

• 20:08Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Until you do something about it. So.

• 20:11Bunnie XO?

  See what I'm saying? She always calms me down.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  I would say, yeah. I would say it's something inflamed and if it persists a long, long time or it gets worse or it lasts longer, or it starts happening at rest, then that's when I'd, I'd want to see you and maybe think about an ultrasound or a scan.

• 20:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  But nothing is as good as somebody who knows you.

• 20:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  And I think that helps it be calm. I know you. I know how healthy you are and it's easy for me to, no, it's not that. And, but it's not diverticulitis. It ain't.

• 20:40Bunnie XO?

  I love it. She looks at my blood work too. This woman knows the roadmap to my soul. So.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  Well, it's easy to work with Dani, right?

• 20:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And you, so you, how do you and Dani know each other? Because all of you guys know Dani, who comes on the podcast. You guys absolutely love her. She is friends with Dani also. How do you guys know each other?

• 20:58Speaker 03

  Well, we're colleagues. So she's a, an integrative nurse practitioner and I am a, a doctor who did internal medicine. So I trained in the Western internal medicine system and I did a two-year fellowship in integrative medicine.

• 21:11Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  So what that means is I can, I can bring the science and the nature into whatever needs to be done to make you better. So Dani does a lot of integrative and I do a mixture of both.

• 21:25Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  So we're similar, but just a little different.

• 21:28Bunnie XO?

  What about like a, like a 45-year-old? Perimenopausal woman who can't lose the last five pounds.

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 21:36Bunnie XO?

  She's been trying to lose.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. First of all, the practicing obesity medicine in 2025, I said before, is unlike anything we have ever seen. So these injections, whatever your thoughts are about them, they are potent in the gut, in the brain, and in those areas that control hunger, cravings, and satiety. We have never had a medicine that shuts off those messages like these do. There's a lot of genetics and a lot of hormones involved in what you crave and how much you eat and how much calories you burn. It is not calories in, calories out.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  So a 45-year-old, and even from 40 to 50, that perimenopause, your brain starts getting messages that your ovaries, the hormones that your ovaries produce, your brain starts getting messages about storing adipose tissue in your midsection. So as our estrogen sputters, we tend to create a little bit more fat deposits in the midsection. Have you noticed? Yeah. So with that, with that type of person, we would probably track macros, keep

• 23:00Speaker 03

  the estrogen testosterone as stable as possible, not over exercise, because what we want to do is tell your body that it's safe to release those fat stores. So your body will protect you by hanging on to them, but it's safe to release. So kind, gentle exercise, and don't poke the insulin bear with carbs.

• 23:26Bunnie XO?

  How do you feel about weightlifting?

• 23:29Speaker 03

  I feel amazing.

• 23:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Because doesn't weightlifting spike insulin also, though, too?

• 23:35Speaker 03

  So, weightlifting, it can do different things to different people, but the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn just sleeping.

• 23:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  So, and the more muscle you have, the more muscle you will have as you get older. So.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  By the time you're 50, you start losing 2% of muscle mass a year unless you're doing something about it. So I feel amazing about weightlifting.

• 24:00Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  And if there's an excuse why you're not doing it, get over it.

• 24:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, do it. No, I love it. I weightlift. I weightlift five times a week now. Like, I'm on it. So I have a Patreon community that is obsessed with all things medical. Lay down, son. And we're gonna go over there and take some questions from them, if that's okay with you.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Let's do it. Let's go.

• 24:27Bunnie XO?

  Let's do it. Alright, so the first question that we have for you is from Shannon. And she said, "I struggle so much with my stage four endometriosis to where I'm worried I'll not be able to continue working. Do you have any advice at this point? Would be great, as many of us women struggle with endo and it seems no one is talking about it."

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is, this is, endometriosis is an inflammatory. What's causing pain is inflammation of these little tiny deposits. So every time a woman menstrua- has a period, the ovule should go into the fallopian tube and drop through the vagina as part of your period. In people that have endometriosis, the ovule has fallen outside so that there's little pieces of tissue that are hormone receptive. Just either stuck to your colon or to your bladder, somewhere. They've landed in your pelvis. Every single month, when they get the trigger from the estrogen and progesterone surges,

• 25:33Speaker 03

  they start swelling up and getting inflamed. So the pain from endometriosis comes from inflammation. Anything you can do, there's medicines, there's surgery, and I'm not a GYN, but anything you can do to decrease the inflammation will help with the pain. Calcium and magnesium before periods help with the inflammation of the endometriosis. And sugar is no good.

• 25:58Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Sugar is the devil. So it goes, "I love it. I love that devil." But it doesn't serve us well when it increases inflammation. So gluten is super inflammatory. Sugar is super inflammatory. Alcohol, because it's mostly, sugars are super inflammatory. So if you wanted to try to mitigate that pain, Just for shits and giggles. See what happens when you decrease your sugar, just maybe the two weeks before your period.

• 26:26Bunnie XO?

  I haven't had sugar in two and a half years and it's been a game changer for my body. Game changer for my body and for my mental health.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 26:35Bunnie XO?

  My anxiety used to be at a 22. My anxiety is at a two now. If I start having a panic attack, I can control it. Like it's, it's been a godsend. I don't think people realize how bad sugar just wreaks havoc on your body.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  For sure. Because when you don't have, when you, when you have it a lot and you don't have it, you go into withdrawals and it feels horrible.

• 26:56Bunnie XO?

  It's like a drug addiction.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  Horrible, awful. But once you get through those first three days and you become a, I really don't eat sugar. How long has it been since I've eaten? So I'm, I'm not at a year yet.

• 27:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:09Speaker 03

  But I decided, okay, sugar is, is just not my friend. And you're totally right. My mood is a lot more steady. Things don't hurt like they used to. I can sleep so much better. Yeah.

• 27:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  And sugar, everything has sugar.

• 27:24Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about sleep for a second.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:26Bunnie XO?

  So I know a lot of people like love to sleep. And I mean, as a teenager, you can sleep like the dead. As you get older, that sleep pattern changes. Why does that sleep pattern change? Why are some women waking up at four o'clock in the morning, not being able to go back to bed at, until 6:00 AM, 7:00 AM again, having that broken sleep? And how can we fix that?

• 27:51Speaker 07

  Attention all new and existing members of the W D N C. I'm Melanie Sanders and this is the We Do Not Care Club Podcast. We got to midlife and realized we just simply do not care much anymore. Now we gotta help each other make sense of hot flashes, dry coochie, chin hair, trifling families, brain fog, and bat wings. We are not alone and we will be heard. So come join the W D N C. Follow and listen to the We Do Not Care Club Podcast with Melanie Sanders wherever you get your podcasts.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  Well, we were designed to be, to sleep kind of in two stages. So, so as teenagers, we would wake up a little bit and then go right back to sleep. And then as we get older, we wake up and we start thinking that plant.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  Planet in the front, man, she's getting too much sun. And then you start going through the Rolodex of all the things to worry about. That's number one is get a hold of that train that wants to take you to worrying about stuff in the middle of the night that you can't do anything about.

• 28:53Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:55Speaker 03

  Number one. Number two, it's a lot, a lot of it's related to hormones. And then as we age, you just don't need as much sleep. And it's related to how many cycles of REM. But.

• 29:07Bunnie XO?

  So you don't need as much.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  You don't need as much sleep. Correct.

• 29:10Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 29:11Speaker 03

  That's why your grandma gets up at four.

• 29:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. But she's asleep by six.

• 29:16Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 29:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:18Bunnie XO?

  But is grandma still getting eight hours in though?

• 29:21Speaker 03

  No, no. Her body simply doesn't need eight hours.

• 29:24Bunnie XO?

  So as we get older, how much sleep do you think we need?

• 29:27Speaker 03

  About five. I like, I think the magic, and this, this is individual.

• 29:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  But the magic number is five because you can go into enough REM cycles to reset your brain and it's only during sleep that you can erase everything from the day before.

• 29:46Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Otherwise, if you're, if you're not sleeping and you're not resting, your brain remembers the car that almost hit you at the Kroger parking lot and things that have no, no business in today are still in there. So rest, especially, especially really good, deep sleep clears your brain, prepares you for learning, and that's when you heal wounds.

• 30:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's amazing way to look at it. I'm like absorbing it because that's so real.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:17Bunnie XO?

  Because I get probably about six hours of sleep a night and I've, there's some days that I wake up at five hours and I'm like ready to rock and roll.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  Great.

• 30:24Bunnie XO?

  But then I tell myself, I'm like, should I get three more hours, you know, because everybody says you need to get eight to 10 hours of sleep. And I'm like, who has, first of all, who has the time? Secondly, like, yeah, sometimes I don't want to sleep eight to 10 hours.

• 30:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. And if you could give yourself a gift, it's, if you, if you could give yourself the gift of sleep. Give it to yourself on the front end. So go to sleep early.

• 30:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  Uh, rather than staying asleep longer because the quality, quality stuff that heals you is at the beginning of the night.

• 30:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Wow. Okay. I didn't know that. And I have been trying to make myself go to sleep early and I I just can't do it. But, okay. So here's another question from Gina. She said, do you have any home remedies for H. pylori when antibiotics don't work?

• 31:06Speaker 03

  Hmm. What a great question. So I do not. I do not. That's, that's the short answer. But H. pylori is a bacteria. And then there's a little bit of, of controversy about this, whether it's a bacteria that's always in your gut, that doesn't cause any problems and it lives happily with the others. But the, the general consensus in medicine is H. pylori can cause ulcers and those ulcers can cause gastric cancer. So in general, we want to get rid of H. pylori. The gold standard for diagnosing H. pylori is either a stool antigen or a breath test. If you're diagnosing H. pylori in blood, then you're getting a false positive because once you've

• 31:50Speaker 03

  had it and you treat it, you will always have the antibodies. So if you took the medicine for H. pylori, you eradicated it, but you're checking your blood to see if it's still there, then you're always going to be positive, but the H. pylori is not actually there.

• 32:07Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  So before you do any, any home remedies, make sure that what you're, what you're seeing is not just the antibodies, because just like anybody who's ever had mono, you're going to see mono antibodies and not necessarily the mono infection.

• 32:22Bunnie XO?

  So they would need to take a stool sample?

• 32:24Speaker 03

  Yes, a stool sample or a breath test.

• 32:26Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  And advocate for yourself.

• 32:28Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 32:28Speaker 03

  Tell your doctor, hey, I really want to know whether it's just the antibody or whether I have a reinfection.

• 32:36Bunnie XO?

  I'm telling you, there's nothing more humbling than pooping in a lunch cart.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 32:41Bunnie XO?

  In the hot dog. The hot dog container. You never just feel so humbled to just stand in a bathroom holding a log.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  There's few things.

• 32:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, few things. I don't, and everybody always wants to do those. And I'm like, can we not? I just don't, but you know what? They're necessary. So you guys, please do it.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:01Bunnie XO?

  Brandy wants to know, how do you stop perimenopause itching?

• 33:06Bunnie XO?

  I've heard this so much from women that say that

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:11Bunnie XO?

  they get like the worst itching.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  You mean vaginal itching?

• 33:14Bunnie XO?

  I'm not sure. I've heard people say that it's on their skin and their ears. Like, but it doesn't happen in the vagina too?

• 33:21Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's where I mostly, that's where, that's where most of the itching occurs.

• 33:27Bunnie XO?

  New fear unlocked.

• 33:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:30Bunnie XO?

  Holy fucking shitballs.

• 33:31Speaker 03

  But I'm here for you.

• 33:32Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, no.

• 33:33Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna be dragging my hootenanny on the fucking carpet like a dog.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. So.

• 33:38Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be wrong.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  During perimenopause, there's so many estrogen and progesterone surges. It can, there's receptors for estrogen everywhere. Your skin, your brain, your, your organs and your vagina. So when your levels are sputtering, things change. So in that case, I would, and there's not a real easy way to diagnose perimenopause, except to look at the constellation of symptoms. And they're super, super quiet. So you don't really know you're perimenopausal until you've felt crazy for two years.

• 34:20Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Or one of your kids says, "Mom."

• 34:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  Or a Keith Sweat song doesn't hit like it used to.

• 34:28Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  You lose, you lose, uh, you lose patience, you lose libido, you lose, um, motivation. And you don't really know that this is happening. So if you're itching and, and anything else is happening, then be on the lookout for menopause symptoms that you can control. And go talk to somebody about it. You could do things like black cohosh, you could do, um, you could try, um, plant, uh, sterols that could, that could mimic, um, or you could just get on a hormone.

• 35:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Which we know are safe.

• 35:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Do you suggest HRT for women who are perimenopausal and menopausal?

• 35:13Speaker 03

  If that's right for you.

• 35:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  If that's right for the patient, then I don't, I don't have a single solitary problem. And when I go.

• 35:25Bunnie XO?

  I want a little bit of Jill.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  Yeah. Make sure I have some on.

• 35:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  It just, there's just so many receptors that estrogen is so important for.

• 35:34Bunnie XO?

  I love estrogen.

• 35:35Speaker 03

  I love estrogen.

• 35:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:36Bunnie XO?

  When I was going through my IVF stems, my body was loving the estrogen. Hated the progesterone.

• 35:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:41Bunnie XO?

  Loved the estrogen though.

• 35:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:43Bunnie XO?

  Like, my estrogen levels were like over like 1500, I think. And I was, I felt great.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:49Bunnie XO?

  I was fucking thriving.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. No itching?

• 35:52Bunnie XO?

  No itching.

• 35:52Speaker 03

  No itching.

• 35:53Bunnie XO?

  No itching. I don't ever have any itching. I haven't had itching yet, thank God. Uh, but you know, listen, I've heard, I sympathize with these women who have to go through all of that. Today I have the boys on the couch, Brothers Osborne, the brothers who have rocked country music, redefined brotherhood and proved that being different might just be your greatest hit. Welcome, boys.

• 36:14Speaker 08

  Thank you.

• 36:15Bunnie XO?

  Thank you. I worked hard on that.

• 36:16Speaker 08

  That made me feel good.

• 36:17Bunnie XO?

  Good. I love you guys. My husband loves you guys.

• 36:22Speaker 08

  Well, we love, we love you guys. Honestly, I feel like, I mean, you know, his career is just like taking off to the stratosphere, but in such a short period of time, but I, I love that I've gotten to know you guys. Just a little bit before that happened, you guys have changed at all.

• 36:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, we, we appreciate you guys. And I have always been obsessed with you because of how you dress. It's so cowboy couture. And I'm just like, it's so like tailored and just perfect. Every time I see you, I'm like, this outfit is fucking amazing.

• 36:47Speaker 08

  Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.

• 36:48Bunnie XO?

  Well, I mean, where, where does the style, the sense of style come from? Like, is it something that you obsess about?

• 36:53Speaker 08

  I think it's a multiple, multiple things. One, it's probably the fact that I'm a gay man, a gay man. And they're in there somewhere. It certainly doesn't hurt.

• 37:00Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 37:01Speaker 08

  Um, and then, uh, you know, we, we have stylists that help with this stuff.

• 37:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:05Speaker 08

  And of course, Abby is very stylish. So, you know, that's always at the last, you know, every time I like, even I got dressed for the awards, I'm like, this jacket, this jacket?

• 37:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, it's always, it's, it's amazing. Top tier always.

• 37:18Speaker 08

  Even when I was a kid, I kind of love like wearing oddly, I mean, before I even had any clue what my sexuality was. When I look back now, I'm like, oh, my God, you were so gay. Like, I would wear like striped shirt, like a TGI Fridays red and white striped shirt with like a bow tie when I was like eight.

• 37:34Bunnie XO?

  That's hot, though.

• 37:35Speaker 09

  His choice.

• 37:35Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 37:37Speaker 08

  Like, had my hair up, super neat.

• 37:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 37:39Speaker 08

  It's kind of like, have you seen Right to Gemstones?

• 37:42Bunnie XO?

  Of course, I just watched the finale last night.

• 37:44Speaker 08

  Okay, so the latest season, when there's the, what's his character? He's the little boy.

• 37:49Bunnie XO?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 37:50Speaker 08

  I was, that was basically me as a kid.

• 37:51Bunnie XO?

  No, I think that's phenomenal because fashion, I have, I love fashion. So even as a kid, like I wore a plads, a red plaid skirt and an I rode the bullet Gillies t-shirt all the time and you couldn't tell me any different, but I, but even when I think back to it now, like I wear like band tees and like plaid skirts still and it's like, it's sometimes it's something you're, you're just born with too.

• 38:10Speaker 08

  I know, isn't that weird? Like John's kids, you know, he's got twins.

• 38:14Bunnie XO?

  The twins, yeah.

• 38:15Speaker 08

  And to watch just one just be a boy and the girl, you know, she just naturally like, she couldn't even speak yet and she showed up. I don't know if it was to Christmas or something or Thanksgiving and she has this, she's a year and a half and she's like, check out, check this out.

• 38:30Speaker 09

  She's trying to see and she does like a turn and she's looking at it.

• 38:33Speaker 08

  She's like, ah, like, check this badass thing out.

• 38:35Bunnie XO?

  She's got Uncle TJ's fashion sense. I love that.

• 38:39Speaker 09

  My son's just covered in dirt and his own gunk. He's got my fashion sense.

• 38:42Bunnie XO?

  All boy.

• 38:43Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 38:44Bunnie XO?

  I love that. So you said you had a story to tell me that I was.

• 38:47Speaker 09

  Yeah, so this is probably a year and a half ago.

• 38:49Speaker 08

  This is on the record.

• 38:50Speaker 09

  This is on the record.

• 38:51Bunnie XO?

  It's on the record, baby.

• 38:53Speaker 09

  A year ago, year and a half ago. It was not long after we had kids and my wife gets hit up from her management. She's an artist as well, amazing singer songwriter and then, yeah, you got asked to do your podcast.

• 39:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 39:07Speaker 09

  And she was like, okay, yeah, I don't, I'm not sure why. I don't really have any music out, but you know, we, we've talked about like fertility stuff and kids and she was like, maybe she wants to, maybe go into that or whatever. Turned out it was a scam.

• 39:18Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 39:19Speaker 09

  Yes, and it was basically someone said, well, you have to sign on, but you have to give us like login to your computer so we can. Accessed it from afar and Lucy signed on and then got kind of freaked out and was like, this doesn't seem right and then closed the tab. Fortunately, they didn't like go in and get all of our information.

• 39:38Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 39:38Speaker 09

  They were seconds away from it and she thought she was doing your podcast. Isn't that sad? I told you it was a little bit tragic.

• 39:46Bunnie XO?

  I hate that. People, the scam shit is just getting so out of control.

• 39:50Speaker 09

  It's so specific. Not only like, I get if you're like, if you're sending like, you know, I'm a prince from Africa and you know, right.

• 39:57Bunnie XO?

  Remember the Nigerian scams?

• 40:01Speaker 09

  But this is so, this is so specific, targeted at people where they would go, I, they probably know that we know you guys.

• 40:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:10Speaker 09

  Yeah. And I was kind of, I know, I was a little pissed, but also kind of impressed about the, the move, the scam.

• 40:16Bunnie XO?

  No, it, the way that they can even access people is just kind of, it's really scary.

• 40:20Speaker 08

  I know. Someone was actually texting her mom pretending to be me, but the thing, I was in the room with my mom. She's like, is that you? And I'm like, what me? He's like, are you texting me? I'm like, why, why text you?

• 40:32Bunnie XO?

  Why is it old people always fall for it?

• 40:34Speaker 08

  I know. Well, that's like, that's the sad part. They're often victims of that stuff, which honestly, I feel like I'm pretty savvy and they're still all the time. I'm like, is this UPS?

• 40:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:43Speaker 09

  Well, Lucy was really upset. She was like, I feel like such an idiot, but I'm like, look, but it came through your management. It wasn't like she got an email somewhere for this sketchy ass website.

• 40:53Speaker 08

  But I get emails from John all the time. It's like, check out these pictures. And I'm like, my brother would never send me a picture.

• 40:58Speaker 09

  He doesn't open any of my dick pics.

• 40:59Speaker 08

  The hell, look at these pictures. I'm like.

• 41:01Bunnie XO?

  Somebody, somebody would be trying to get ahold of those.

• 41:07Speaker 08

  It really was him the whole time.

• 41:09Bunnie XO?

  She just wanted to see if you responded or not.

• 41:13Bunnie XO?

  Well, tell Lucy that I'm so sorry and that we will have to revisit that for sure. Now that I know that she's even willing to do that.

• 41:19Speaker 09

  Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I'll tell her that'll make her, it'll make her whole world.

• 41:22Bunnie XO?

  And I actually wanted to talk about you guys' IVF journey too, on the podcast, which we'll get into it later.

• 41:27Speaker 09

  Sure.

• 41:27Bunnie XO?

  I want to kind of paint a picture for my viewers at home who don't know you guys, kind of like, you know, your rise to fame. So if we could start, you know, where you guys grew up and go from there. Tell me a little bit about your childhood and what inspired you guys?

• 41:41Speaker 08

  Interesting thing because you know, for those who don't know, we're, we're east coast boys. We grew up in a little tiny water community called Deal, Maryland. And to a lot of people that do know that, that they're always so surprised to hear that. They're like, how do you get into country music being from there? And we shot our music video for a song, one of our first singles called Rum in our hometown to kind of give people a bit of a look see into where we grew up because it makes total sense when you see it. And on the new music that we're working on, we've kind of are going back to visiting that again where we're having a lot of, we'll go back and shoot videos and stuff back there in the hometown. But yeah, I mean, it's, it's a very blue collar town. It's paradise. I mean, we grew up on the Chesapeake Bay.

• 42:26Bunnie XO?

  How beautiful was that?

• 42:27Speaker 08

  It was so beautiful and amazing place to grow up. But you know, a lot of places like that tend to be, you know, like really fancy. It was not. I mean, it's really blue collar.

• 42:36Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 42:36Speaker 08

  And, um, and so growing up around there, it was usually like, you know, people were mostly listening to rock or they're listening to country, which is pretty, I think for us to kind of have the blend of both, I think makes total sense.

• 42:48Bunnie XO?

  And you have been so vocal about your mental health. I feel like the year 2020 and 2021 were big years for you guys.

• 42:56Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 42:56Bunnie XO?

  Both. Like it was almost like, I don't know, like Saturn was in you guys' charts at that time.

• 43:01Speaker 08

  Is Saturn like a thing you want?

• 43:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's daddy Saturn. You learn all the lessons.

• 43:05Speaker 08

  Really?

• 43:06Bunnie XO?

  And it's like, if you don't learn that lesson, it comes back around and it repeats itself. So.

• 43:09Speaker 08

  So it's like the opposite of Mercury in retrograde because I feel like Mercury is always in retrograde.

• 43:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, literally. It's always doing something.

• 43:17Speaker 08

  Can Mercury chill out?

• 43:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 08

  So Saturn's what you want?

• 43:19Bunnie XO?

  Mercury just fuck off, please. Like all together. I get so frustrated with it.

• 43:23Speaker 08

  So Saturn's will be, okay, I'm gonna get Saturn tattoo.

• 43:25Bunnie XO?

  Daddy Saturn.

• 43:26Speaker 08

  Daddy Saturn.

• 43:27Bunnie XO?

  So I feel like you guys both had really hard years and you know, the 20, in 2020 to 2021, you went through something with your, um, mental health. Can we dive into that?

• 43:38Speaker 09

  Yeah, absolutely. Um, at the end of 2019, I've always struggled with anxiety and like I've teetered into depression here and there, but it's mostly anxiety and I don't know, it went unchecked for a long time. I've never struggled with addiction, fortunately. Um, you know, I drink and do some other things recreationally for fun, but I've never been addicted to it, but I am addicted to work. I'm a workaholic. I just work and work and work. And when things are getting harder for me, instead of me stopping, I'm like, no, I can work harder and then I can work my way through it. Well, apparently you can only do that for so long. And at the end of 2019, we were, um, On the road, we were on tour with Willie Nelson, Alison Krauss, and Bonnie Raitt.

• 44:20Speaker 09

  Who were like, I don't know, like of our Mount Rushmore growing up, that's probably three of the four. And I, um, I felt nothing. I was just depressed, confused, tired. I wasn't sleeping. And then I ended up getting something called tinnitus or tinnitus. Some people call it ringing in my ears. And I still have it. Long story short, that's, I'm in a good place with that now, but at the time, it was a perfect circle of a lot of things. And I was being tormented, not only from my ears driving me crazy, but my mind also driving me crazy and I wasn't sleeping. And, um, I ended up pulling out of that tour, which is nuts to me. Like, to think that I did that now, it's like, again, I would still just jump for joy if I was on that tour.

• 45:03Bunnie XO?

  Peace is priceless, though.

• 45:04Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 45:05Speaker 08

  It is. And that is such an underrated thing. We think of all the things we want, but peace is, man.

• 45:09Speaker 09

  I know. But when you're, when you're in pursuit of this dream, it's a, it's hard. It's a hard one to catch. You know, it's very fleeting. It's like trying to catch your shadow. It's always right there, but you never quite get it. And you unfortunately neglect a lot of things that need attention in your life. And for me, it was mental health. And for other people, it's maybe physical health, family and a lot, a lot of other things.

• 45:31Bunnie XO?

  Is that something you struggled with as a child too? Or did it happen just to?

• 45:35Speaker 09

  Yeah, I did. I was quite, you know, very shy as a kid. Um, when I played guitar, it was like, oh my God, this is how I know how to speak. I know how to be myself. And I had like an oasis, you know? Um, and I found like friends that were also like geeky musician nerds. I'm like, oh, these are my people. But I've always struggled with it. Um, and I still do, but I'm in a lot better place. So I ended up going, there's a place in town called Onsite. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's very big in the music.

• 46:02Bunnie XO?

  We love Miles Adcox.

• 46:04Speaker 09

  Miles is amazing. Miles is one of the people I talked to before I went there. I ended up going to something called Milestones, where they send the real crazy people. That's where I went. And, um, you know, it was really hard. It was probably the hardest. I was there for three weeks. The first week I was like, get me the fuck out of here. And one day they were like, look, you're not institutionalized. Like you can leave. And once they put the ball in my court, I was like, I knew deep down I shouldn't. And I stayed and I told myself, okay, if I'm gonna stay. I'm going to just be at everything and raise my hand at every question. I'm going to immerse myself in this and I did. And a lot of things changed. I became, I took the curiosity part of my brain that was curious about music and guitar and all of these things. I became curious about

• 46:44Speaker 09

  mental health and the brain and the evolution of the brain and, you know, the prefrontal cortex versus the, you know, the, the lower part of your brain, like the limbic system and the amygdala, all these things. Like I had to go super nerd mode because that's what my brain likes. And it allowed me to really understand this thing that we carry around in our heads that we have so little, that's so mysterious to us. And after that, I just decided to change a lot of things in my life. And since then I've had kids, which helps you have to prioritize things once they pop up because, you know, they were not going to give you a choice. You have to prioritize them. And everything in my life is, it's better now than it's ever been. I still struggle, but I know what

• 47:29Speaker 09

  to do with it now.

• 47:30Bunnie XO?

  It's amazing that you had the foresight to know like, hey, I can't leave here because I'm not okay. And like to really, a lot of people don't want to do the work. You have to get through the darkness to see the light. I preach about mental health on my podcast all the time because I suffer from severe anxiety and depression also and OCD.

• 47:47Speaker 09

  Well, not that good, but.

• 47:48Bunnie XO?

  No, no, I get it. Yeah, fuck yeah. No, I know what you said.

• 47:53Speaker 09

  I will say, one of the things that they talked about there a lot, you said the word when you go through it. It's, it's, it's something that we take as like some sort of colloquialism as if like, oh, I'm just going through something. But if you really think about the words, think about, I'm going through it. That's the only way to go through it. You can't go above it. Can't go under it. You can't go around it. You gotta go through it. And, but you will come out the other side. It's gonna suck, but you will come out the other side. So you have to be willing just to go through it. What do they say? If you want to get to it, you gotta go through it. You gotta go through it.

• 48:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's like to get to it, go through it.

• 48:26Speaker 09

  And also, you know, the more you do it, the almost kind of the better you become at it, the less avoidant you are of it. The more you lean into it, the more inquisitive you are about yourself and your experiences. The more you're inquisitive you are about your own mental health.

• 48:41Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 48:41Speaker 09

  It just gets easier with time. It never goes away. It just gets easier.

• 48:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree with that a hundred percent. And I. Preach on this podcast also that you have to do the work. It's not gonna just happen overnight. Like you have to rip that Band-Aid off and bleed again and let it scar.

• 48:58Speaker 08

  It's tough because you can't see it. You know, it's like, okay, if you go to cavity or something that's like, you know, anything if you were to cut yourself, it's like things you obviously need to go work on and take care of that anyone would do and wouldn't think twice about it or apologize for it.

• 49:11Speaker 09

  Well, the fact that it's more part of the conversation now, like you talking about it's massive. Anyone that has like a good outreach, talking about it is going to help put it in the conversation and then de-stigmatize it.

• 49:23Speaker 08

  And it's also part of the healing is talking about it. I mean, it's the same thing with like, I mean, getting nervous. I remember when I would go on stage and I would get nervous, I would be, I would always try to be like, I'm not nervous. But I was like, ah, like, uh, and it's weird how just talking about it will help. I mean, like not trying to fight it. Like I'm going on stage, I'm like, damn, I'm nervous as hell right now. Like it makes me feel bad. I don't know why that does help, but it does.

• 49:45Bunnie XO?

  Because you're recognizing it. Yeah. You're, you're, you're, what the mind thinks the body will follow. And like, when you speak words out, it like registers with your mind. And I don't know, it's just, it's crazy. The whole psychological aspect of it.

• 49:58Speaker 09

  Processing, like if you're nervous, you know, and sitting down and clenching your hands, your body doesn't want to do that. Your body wants to kind of get up and move. That's what nerves are. It's a sympathetic nervous response. If you're nervous and talking about it and kind of moving, that's really good for you. It's what your body wants.

• 50:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. I'm so happy you got the help that you needed and that you're doing so much better now.

• 50:19Speaker 09

  Thank you.

• 50:19Bunnie XO?

  I want to talk about your IVF journey, but next let's talk about TJ. 2021 was a big year for you. When did you know that you were gay?

• 50:29Speaker 08

  Um, when I started liking boys.

• 50:32Bunnie XO?

  So like, so like as a child. No, it wasn't. I thought it was funny.

• 50:40Bunnie XO?

  I thought it was funny.

• 50:40Speaker 08

  Damn, he's cute. All right. I guess. No.

• 50:44Bunnie XO?

  Me too. No, I'm just kidding.

• 50:47Speaker 08

  I was young. I mean, really, really young. I didn't really understand it, but I mean, it was I would say pretty much my whole life, I mean, it's one person comes into realizing, oh, like you're you're cute, or I have a crush, and not really knowing what that is. I mean, pretty young age and but for a long time, I, you know, of course, I denied it and fought it. And I was like, no way.

• 51:05Bunnie XO?

  Did you deny it because you felt like you didn't have a safe space to be able to come out?

• 51:09Speaker 08

  No, it just didn't feel like me. I mean, I guess I like, you know, at the time, there was like, you know, a lot of the cliches of what being gay was, and not that there's anything wrong with any of that stuff. It just wasn't what I necessarily identified as. And mostly, I just, I mean, I was just like a I felt like a regular guy who likes doing redneck shit. And I was like, this isn't, this isn't how this works and

• 51:33Speaker 08

  and it just didn't fit into my life, you know, and I was like, this isn't, you know, what I want for myself. And I just felt like the image of what I wanted myself, or what I wanted for myself, like to have children and, you know, have a family and, you know, those types of things, which, you know, later in life, you come to realize you certainly can have those.

• 51:50Bunnie XO?

  But we're also programmed that as a child, too.

• 51:53Speaker 08

  A hundred percent. You know, and that's kind of the, an interesting thing is because, you know, like, you know, I was like talking about like Shelley Wright, amazing artist in the 90s, had a bunch of hits. And she came out, you know, as lesbian. But she, you know, brought this interesting point of just like, you know, being groomed, like, you know, she's like, I was groomed my whole life to be to be straight, you know, like, no one wanted this for me. And I felt very similarly. I never really thought about it that way. And I actually, you know, I'm, I'm very fortunate because you know, and this is why I don't really love to harp on it too much or be like, oh, like my life was that. I mean, I certainly had a lot of heartbreak, but I grew up in a really good family. I mean, our parents could not have been more supportive of their children, regardless of what they

• 52:33Speaker 08

  did or who they were, as long as they were good people. And so I was really, really fortunate to grow up around that. So that was like really encouraging. And then as, you know, I came up, it was like, you kind of get, then get stuck in the narrative. And it's weird to break out of it. Like, I always kind of like liken it to someone calling you the wrong name or something. And I'm like, I don't really want to tell you my name isn't John. That's my brother.

• 52:57Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 52:57Speaker 08

  But I don't want to brush your bubble because I don't make you feel bad. And then you get kind of stuck in this thing where you're like, everyone's thinking this one thing about me. And it's not even hardly about me. It's more of, I'm worried about them feeling bad. And there's just so many things that are going on, but I did eventually reach a point in my life to where I was like, you know,

• 53:16Speaker 08

  things were good. I wasn't putting a lot of premium on my happiness. I didn't even really know what that felt like, you know? I didn't know what I was missing. And then eventually I just got to a point to where, you know, I was in a relationship that I was really happy with. I was really happy with where my life was. Through all the shitty stuff of the pandemic, it did kind of give us a minute to stop and smell the roses, you know? Like our lives are good. And I was like, this is, this is time, you know, to do this for, for, for me. And so a lot of people will come up and be like, oh, thank you for doing this for us and what you've done for the community. And that's amazing. I hope, certainly hope it's not for nothing.

• 53:54Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 53:54Speaker 08

  But it was for me. It really was because I needed it. I couldn't do it anymore.

• 53:59Bunnie XO?

  Well, that has to be like a weight on your shoulder to not be.

• 54:01Speaker 08

  It was. I didn't really realize it though. It wasn't like, I was just unhappy. I didn't. It was a huge weight on my shoulders. I didn't realize until it was gone. I was like, holy shit. Like, I didn't even want to talk about it. Like that when I was telling, I was like, when I come out, I just want to come out and I want to move on.

• 54:16Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 54:16Speaker 08

  And then instantly I just felt way different. I'm like, I do want to talk about it. It's a huge part of me. Now, like the Sam Lansky, he wrote the article that I came out with. He was one of the writers for Time Magazine and an amazing person, also a gay man himself. And I was like, you know, it's like, it's not a, it's not a big deal, you know? It's just not the biggest part of me, you know? It's like, there's so many other things that define me. And very simply, he, he said, what if it is though? What if it's actually like the, the biggest part of you? And I was like, I could almost cry thinking about that. It was like, it was so, I was, yeah. And this is a huge part of me and I've marginalized it in myself to make myself feel better about it. But it actually is wildly huge in how I think and how I feel.

• 55:00Speaker 08

  Empathy that I have for other people and. That have things in their lives that I don't understand, but I do understand what it was like to have to feel like you had to be someone else. Like, this is really terrible.

• 55:12Bunnie XO?

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• 56:22Speaker 10

  Oh, I'm happy to be here.

• 56:23Bunnie XO?

  Our white trash mother is in the house, baby.

• 56:29Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited. You have no idea.

• 56:31Speaker 10

  That's cool. I'm excited to be with you.

• 56:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, this has been a long time coming. We've literally been talking for, I feel, it feels like years now, right?

• 56:39Speaker 10

  It is years.

• 56:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:41Speaker 10

  Cause I haven't been to Hawaii in years and I wanted to have you on over there.

• 56:45Bunnie XO?

  Yep. And then I think we were like on opposite islands or something when that happened. Yeah. I never realized how big Hawaii was until you had asked me to come on the pod and I was like, okay, yeah, we could do it. And then we looked and it was like, you were on like a whole nother island. I was like, holy shit.

• 56:59Speaker 10

  Everybody always thinks it's a, you know, well, they usually think it's just Maui.

• 57:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 57:05Speaker 10

  And then they think it's a bunch of other floating places.

• 57:07Bunnie XO?

  Or Honolulu.

• 57:08Speaker 10

  Yeah, Honolulu, right.

• 57:10Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 57:11Speaker 10

  Yeah, that's a, what island is that? I can't even remember.

• 57:14Bunnie XO?

  Oahu? Is that a?

• 57:15Speaker 10

  Oahu, yeah. I'm not well versed in Hawaii, but I Yeah. Is that, is that what it is? If I'm wrong, sorry, guys. Yeah, it's Oahu. That's where Honolulu is. Yeah. And that's where my granddaughter was born, because we had to go over to Oahu, because they had a good, uh, mother-child hospital there. Oh. The island I live on is the Big Island, which everybody who lives there just calls Hawaii. Mm-hmm. That's the island named Hawaii. So is the Big Island Kona? No, the Big Island is Hawaii. Is Hawaii, okay. Yeah, but everybody forgets that and they say Kona, or they say the Big Island now. But it actually is the one that's named Hawaii. Gotcha. And it's the biggest island with the least amount of people,

• 58:00Speaker 10

  which I love, because you can, uh, drive drunk over there and you won't get no accidents. Are you driving drunk over there? Well, I was at the time, but I, I had to put an end to that because I don't see well, you know? And so, there's no business to be driving drunk with just one eye. Right. Uh, you know, at all. There's just no business for me to be doing that. Yeah. And I hit a few people, but luckily I was not hurt. Right. So I A few speed bumps along. A few, few speed bumps along the way, right? Well, I jerked the car when I saw they was having the McRib back there. At, uh, McDonald's, they never give you any warning for when the McRib's coming back. Yeah.

• 58:43Speaker 10

  And with my one eye there, drunk. You're like a pirate. You're like a, a, a friggin', uh, drunk pirate. Yeah. And I never knew, but then when I seen the McRib was back, I went, oh! You know, to get over there and lie and hit a couple of folk, but, you know, I did get the McRib. And then I said, God, if you get me home with no Hawaiian police, of course, they're nowhere, because, boy, they're all, always, uh, you know, out eating and drinking. But, uh, I said, if you get me home, this is the last time I'm gonna Do that if you'll get me home without these people being able to identify me.

• 59:21Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it

• 59:22Speaker 10

  And I made it.

• 59:23Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it crazy how we barter with God?

• 59:25Speaker 10

  Isn't it?

• 59:25Bunnie XO?

  I live, you know how many times I have gotten down on my knees and said, Lord, if you get me out of this, I promise you I'll never do this again.

• 59:32Speaker 10

  You know, what's funny is I'm writing a new sitcom for myself and that's what it's about. It's about all that.

• 59:39Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 59:40Speaker 10

  Yeah, cuz I think that's the funniest stuff in the world, how, how silly we are.

• 59:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, how like

• 59:46Speaker 10

  About God.

• 59:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. What are your beliefs? I would love to know because I hear you talk a lot about like, you know, like, like spiritual awakenings and how you feel like an alien and, you know, like, you know, you have some psychickness that runs through your veins. And I totally relate to that. And I just wanted to know, like, what is your spirituality?

• 1:00:05Speaker 10

  I'm trying, well, I do feel like an alien because, and I've always felt like an alien cuz I knew I was on a different frequency than the rest of my family. Cuz I didn't even get them. I didn't know what they were up to.

• 1:00:17Bunnie XO?

  Same, sister. Same, same.

• 1:00:20Speaker 10

  I tried to figure it out always, but it was like foreign. It wasn't nothing I would ever do. And it didn't make any sense to me. How come they would say one thing and then do the exact opposite thing right after?

• 1:00:32Bunnie XO?

  And then it pisses you off cuz you wanna call them out cuz they're being hypocrites?

• 1:00:35Speaker 10

  Well, I didn't think they were being hypocrites. I was just like, why would anyone do that?

• 1:00:39Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:00:40Speaker 10

  Especially why would somebody say, they'd say like, you know, God sees everything you do. So you wanna be real careful what you do cuz God sees it. Then the next minute they're stealing something.

• 1:00:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:00:53Speaker 10

  I'd be like, well, you must not believe what you say.

• 1:00:56Bunnie XO?

  Right. Right.

• 1:00:58Speaker 10

  Or some of you doesn't.

• 1:00:59Bunnie XO?

  Or practice what you preach, right?

• 1:01:00Speaker 10

  Maybe some of you doesn't know what the other one does. So then I think, well, you know, they tell you, don't let your right hand know what your left hand's doing. So that's what they're up to, I guess. I don't know what they're doing.

• 1:01:14Bunnie XO?

  I, I, I.

• 1:01:15Speaker 10

  I always wanted to have things make sense.

• 1:01:19Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:01:20Speaker 10

  Right?

• 1:01:20Bunnie XO?

  Well, it's, I think you and I are kind of the same person and what's black is black, what's white is white, and we don't like the gray in between. Say what you mean and mean what you say, or don't say it at all, come real or don't come at all. And I don't think that's a bad trait to have in a person.

• 1:01:35Speaker 10

  Well, I just remember I got hit by a car when I was 16 and the hood ornament went in my head and I got a brain concussion and a head concussion. And I was in a coma and all that stuff. And when I woke up, I had some kind of malfunction in the brain, the healing process. But one thing that happened is I, I couldn't lie because see, I mean, not that I'm a good person. I wanted to be a liar like everybody else, but I couldn't remember the lie. You know, the next day, it was just, I had to tell the truth.

• 1:02:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:13Speaker 10

  Cause I couldn't remember my lies.

• 1:02:15Bunnie XO?

  Right. Yeah, you didn't want to get caught up.

• 1:02:18Speaker 10

  Yeah.

• 1:02:19Bunnie XO?

  Can we?

• 1:02:19Speaker 10

  The next day, I'd make up a whole new lie.

• 1:02:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:22Speaker 10

  And then they'd go, well, yesterday you said, so I go, oh, man, I told two lies. Then I just have to tell the truth because it's simpler.

• 1:02:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:31Speaker 10

  And I want to hear the truth so I don't have to wade through the other person's lies and bullshit to figure out what lying bullshit they're telling me. That's wasting my whole life.

• 1:02:42Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:42Speaker 10

  Just tell me the truth, I can deal with the truth. I'd rather have the truth than I'd rather tell the truth. Saves a lot of time, then I have more time for shopping on Amazon.

• 1:02:51Bunnie XO?

  Amen, sister. We were just talking about our love for Amazon. We're like both obsessed with Amazon. I told her that I have such a problem with shopping in the middle of the night and she said she does too. And we're like absolutely obsessed with Amazon. It's just too, it's too easy.

• 1:03:06Speaker 10

  Like I'm up there last night at 3 a.m. getting, I go, I gotta get a scrub brush for the porch because me and my granddaughter, we shoot bugs, you know, we got that bug killer with the salt.

• 1:03:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:19Speaker 10

  And it's so fun. And so we shoot all these June bugs. And then, you know, their blood squishes right out of them.

• 1:03:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:03:26Speaker 10

  And it leaves a mark on the cement. So I gotta get a scrubber. I'm thinking at 3 a.m. waking up, you've got to get a scrubber. So I get on Amazon and I peruse through like 39 pages of different kinds of scrubbers.

• 1:03:40Bunnie XO?

  And then end up with like five. Yep. You get like, I always get like two or three of the same thing. Even when I order clothes, I order two of the same thing, different, different sizes.

• 1:03:50Speaker 10

  Cause I never know. You don't know if it's gonna fit.

• 1:03:52Bunnie XO?

  You never know. Yeah.

• 1:03:52Speaker 10

  Cause it never does fit, right? Nothing ever fits.

• 1:03:55Bunnie XO?

  Yes. And I like to have a collection, you know?

• 1:03:58Speaker 10

  Cause you know which one to send back?

• 1:04:00Bunnie XO?

  No, I just give it to my friends. So I have like girlfriends who live around me. So if I have any extra clothes, I just pile them all together and I just give it to them.

• 1:04:07Speaker 10

  Yeah, I try to do that too. But my daughter-in-law says I should send things back instead of doing that.

• 1:04:13Bunnie XO?

  I feel like it's so much more of a hassle to do that, you know?

• 1:04:16Speaker 10

  I ask her to do it.

• 1:04:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:18Speaker 10

  She's good at returns. She's really, uh, thrifty.

• 1:04:23Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:04:23Speaker 10

  That's a good word for it. She's thrifty.

• 1:04:25Bunnie XO?

  I admire that because I just can't do it. I don't have the patience to send stuff back. I'm just like, I'd rather give it to somebody else.

• 1:04:32Speaker 10

  Oh, you asked me about my spirituality. See, that's an alien word to me. Spirituality. When people say that, I have to say, what do you mean exactly by that? Cause everybody says spirituality. I don't know what they mean.

• 1:04:47Bunnie XO?

  So I think there's a difference. I think there's a difference between being religious and being spiritual. And I feel like being religious puts so many people into a box. So I feel like when you ask somebody, are you spiritual or what is your spirituality? That it's a little bit more fluid. So it's like, you know, there's some people like, what do you believe happens when we die? Like, where do you think we go? Do you think that there's a higher power? Do you think, do you believe in the devil? Like, there's so many different things and aspects of spirituality.

• 1:05:16Speaker 10

  That's a lot of questions. Well, I believe in God.

• 1:05:20Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:05:20Speaker 10

  Yeah. And, you know, I'm a Jew. I'm a scary Jew. I control everything in the world. And that's a hard job. I do try to control everything in the world because I'm so afraid everything's falling apart. And that I'm the only person alive who knows how to fix it. Because that's part of my mental makeup. And I just stay in that all day, talking to God. How do you think I can get shoved my way into this situation or that situation? To give these people my two cents of how they can fix things. Because every time when people listen to me, things go better for them.

• 1:06:04Speaker 10

  And I just feel like God put me here to tell people how to fix up their lives. And that's my spirituality. I just feel like God tells me what to do and I do it. So however you're gonna interpret, interpretate that. You know, every day he calls me, I'm like, what? I don't want him to bother me, but he does all the time. And he says, you know, you have to do it. And I'm like, can't you get somebody else? Can't you get somebody they want to hear it from? Can't you get a guy, a real good looking guy? Or a rapper or somebody like that they want to hear? He goes, no, it has to be you, Roseanne. Like, you know, I'll do it. But it never goes right for me when I do it.

• 1:06:48Speaker 10

  I say, how come it never goes right for me? I always do it wrong, you know?

• 1:06:54Bunnie XO?

  I feel like people want to hear from you, though. I feel like people, like, yes, you do take the fall and people do, you're an easy target for people to come after. But that doesn't mean that they're not listening to what you're saying. They listen to everything you say, whether they apply it to their lives or not. That's a different story. But I do think people want, would rather hear messages from God from you than, you know, somebody who you just named, like a rapper or, you know, somebody else.

• 1:07:20Speaker 10

  Well, here's what he told me. I'm like, you know, I'll do it. But, you know, everyone's gonna hate me like they usually do when I say anything about the truth that you want me to tell. And he's like, well, you know, Roseanne.

• 1:07:34Speaker 10

  Nobody likes a truth teller. They only like him after they've been dead about 2,000 or so years. And only if they died in horrible, torturous deaths. Then they like him about 2,000 years later. But if the guy came again, they'd do it all over to him for the second time. Because they don't like to hear the truth. Well, why? Because, you know, it's too scary. It's too naked. And it makes you have to change. And most people can't change, nor do they want to. They don't give a damn. They'd rather tell everybody else how to change, and so would I. But the only difference is, I did change. I changed, not just once, but many, many times.

• 1:08:19Speaker 10

  And every time I changed, I wanted to tell people about it. Because I thought it was so great to be able to change. To be able to change from when your first reaction, you know, when the doctor hits you there. You go, whatever, response or reflex. When your first reflex, like mine was at a time where I was so filled, so filled with negativity, to hate, to judge, to look outside myself for answers. And I changed that. Because I, I was able to crash to the bottom.

• 1:08:59Speaker 10

  And I didn't let, I stopped letting all this artificial crap prop me up. It just was all kicked out from under me and I crashed to the bottom. And that was just the best thing because it made me change. And it made me value different things. And the thing I valued most was my connection to God. And always did, but this time even, even more.

• 1:09:26Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:09:26Speaker 10

  And I knew that it was transformative. And I knew that it was going to change me even more than the other thousand times God saved my life. And about changing my negative.

• 1:09:40Speaker 10

  Reactions and I was able to change in that now and I cry over this because it is a miracle because I'm a Scorpio. No. And I'm old and bitter and a Jew. But um, because so I'm so paranoid too with mental health issues because of the horrible world, but as a child, but my first response now is love. Yeah. I never understood it. I never knew. And what a different everything. Mm hmm. I mean, you know what I'm talking about. Absolutely. I know you do. Mm hmm.

• 1:10:23Speaker 10

  Because I've watched and your story and you're you're radiating love for this man whose whole Well. being is changing. I'm like, what is that guy on? I gotta get on that because I've got to lose weight, you know, I really do have to. You look phenomenal. I know, but I want to look. I know, but I want to look even better. I really do because a lot of these shops on Amazon on their the luxury shops, they don't go above size eight. Really? I don't know. I think you're looking in the wrong places because I've. On those luxury shops on Amazon, on the Amazon, the new ones. I haven't made it over there yet on that that side of it. I'm on the. Well, they're way too expensive.

• 1:11:06Speaker 10

  I'll tell you that Amazon's trying to rip us off with that because I'll go on there. They have some ugly dresses on there for $3,000 and I'm like, are you kidding? Are you kidding? Tell Jeff right now. I am. I'm pretty gonna listen to Jeff. You gotta up. Jeff needs to calm it down. You gotta up your product on the luxury thing and down your prices, honey. I think it's that girl he's gonna marry. You know, I'm still negative. When I'm in my comedy mode, because you've gotta slap people a little at times when you're my age. But that girl he's marrying, she must have something to do with that luxury page. And I don't like the way she dressed. She might be a nice girl. I don't know. I don't like the

• 1:11:46Speaker 10

  way she's carrying herself and the way she's dressing. So she should have nothing to do with that luxury page. That's my opinion.

• 1:11:56Bunnie XO?

  How do you feel about the fact that she was just a part of the group that went to space?

• 1:12:01Speaker 10

  I think about those people, those poor people that went to space and then something went wrong and they never returned. Why couldn't that happen?

• 1:12:10Bunnie XO?

  Well, they said, well, they said, they said that those people did come back. Didn't they come back in like March? The people that went up and they got stuck? Yeah, they did. They did say they came back. But yeah, the

• 1:12:25Speaker 10

  But then they said those guys didn't really go anywhere, Katy Perry and them.

• 1:12:29Bunnie XO?

  Right. I was gonna, do you believe that they went?

• 1:12:30Speaker 10

  They never would have went in space, those girls.

• 1:12:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:34Speaker 10

  They'd have to be away from their handlers. They couldn't do that for two days. I know that, you know?

• 1:12:40Bunnie XO?

  Do you think Bezos is handling her? Or do you think she's handling Bezos?

• 1:12:44Speaker 10

  Who, the girlfriend? She's his handler.

• 1:12:46Bunnie XO?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:12:47Speaker 10

  You know, people say, you know, I think she's a dominatrix. I can, you know, you know, that business. You have information, as I do too, from the old days. You know, back when I was alive and had a sex drive and everything. But you know, she's a dominatrix. You can see that, right? She makes him put on a frilly pink apron and clean the house. I can see it. Can you?

• 1:13:09Bunnie XO?

  I don't, I don't really know too much about their relationship to analyze it. I think she's beautiful and I think Jeff, you know, it's, it's the tale is old.

• 1:13:17Speaker 10

  But their sex life, can't you just fantasize about that she makes him?

• 1:13:21Bunnie XO?

  Nothing about Jeff Bezos makes me want to fantasize anything. Okay? No, I do not have a thing for Jeff Bezos. Can't do it.

• 1:13:29Speaker 10

  You win that one.

• 1:13:30Bunnie XO?

  In the eighties, you were one of the most powerful women in Hollywood. And to have a top rated show like Roseanne, that

• 1:13:40Bunnie XO?

  Pretty much showed a, you know, like, and I always call it in a world of feel-good family television, because there was like Family Matters, Full House, and then there's Roseanne, who, you know, you guys painted a picture of what real families were about. Like, everything else was kind of like cookie cutter and like sugary, whereas yours was real and raw. And I think that you showed people how to love. You good, Mama?

• 1:14:05Speaker 10

  Thank you.

• 1:14:08Bunnie XO?

  I think you showed people how to love just by being yourself. So to hear you say that you were so negative and stuff like that, was that after the Roseanne stuff?

• 1:14:21Speaker 10

  No, the show was my therapy.

• 1:14:23Bunnie XO?

  Was it? Okay.

• 1:14:24Speaker 10

  It was my soul and my God thing. It's like, I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna make something good from this. But, you know, like all comics and all pro writers and people like that, creatives, I mean, it does come from a, ooh, I'm a troll and a slug, but I produce a great song. I mean, we're all kind of that way, you know?

• 1:14:49Bunnie XO?

  Our worst enemies.

• 1:14:51Speaker 10

  Well, we're in pain, and that's what makes us creative so much, especially when you're young. That's why people take drugs and, you know, everybody's doing all that. But, but when you're older and you get that big change, where it's like, oh, man, I don't, I don't have to do that anymore. It's from another place now. I guess it's wisdom of age. Because now, I'm writing, like I said, I'm writing another short show, and I think it's so funny, the people I have in it are funny, and it's a, we're just busting a gut.

• 1:15:30Speaker 10

  It's a different experience of people who love me and are creative and fun. I just want to have fun this time.

• 1:15:39Bunnie XO?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:15:40Speaker 10

  Just fun, fun, fun, and laughs off, no fighting, nothing. I'm doing it as an experiment, because I, of course, made a bargain with God, you know? I think I have one more thing in me, and I-

• 1:15:58Speaker 10

  Just promise joy, because you know, I'm a Jew, like I say, and I do study Torah. And Torah tells us that God loves our joy so much more than he. I'm not saying it right, but of course, he has mercy on us for us when we're in sorrow. But he has great, great joy when we have joy. So I'm doing that to give joy to God rather than when he had to give me so much mercy. You don't want to create out of joy. Because I feel like, hell, I'm 72. I gotta go out big, happy, big.

• 1:16:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:41Speaker 10

  And, you know, buying all kind of Amazon things.

• 1:16:47Bunnie XO?

  What is it like aging, you know, in Hollywood and just seeing yourself from the beginning till now? Would you ever expect to be in the mind frame that you're in now back then?

• 1:17:02Speaker 10

  Well, I left Hollywood, you know, I left Hollywood after Roseanne show, which ended in 90, 97. And, you know, I don't want my kids raised there. And I don't want to be there when I wasn't working. So, you know, then I went to Hawaii and I was a farmer.

• 1:17:21Bunnie XO?

  Immediately? So in the 90s is when you went to Hawaii?

• 1:17:25Speaker 10

  Uh, I can't remember. I have to look it up.

• 1:17:29Bunnie XO?

  No worries.

• 1:17:29Speaker 10

  I can't remember. But anyway, yeah, when my son was going in ninth grade, I don't know what year it was. But anyways, I went over there and bought a farm and immediately started farming. And my son went to high school there. And all my grandkids were there and we just were farming. I never went back to Hawaii, I mean to Hollywood.

• 1:17:53Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:17:53Speaker 10

  Till they called me and begged me. And, you know, I came back and had another number one show after 20 years. I did it twice. And so that was pretty spectacular.

• 1:18:06Bunnie XO?

  You guys, we're heading into the season finale. It's coming to an end. It's coming to an end. Second to the last episode right now. You guys are listening to. How long are we taking off? We take off like a month, right? We always take off one month between seasons. We take off one month between seasons. So what are you guys gonna do without us?

• 1:18:24Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't know.

• 1:18:25Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 1:18:26Speaker 04

  Maybe we give them another season of Meet the D Fords.

• 1:18:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, you guys know, once the podcast goes on a hiatus for a month, then Meet the D Fords comes out. So we are rolling that out.

• 1:18:38Speaker 04

  That's gonna be fun, cuz that's like a lot of content we've been harboring.

• 1:18:41Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 1:18:42Speaker 04

  No one has seen.

• 1:18:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:43Speaker 04

  It's so good. Your birthday, what we did for your birthday is in there. Yeah, everyone gets to see the never before seen video that we made for you.

• 1:18:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:51Speaker 04

  It's gonna be so good.

• 1:18:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I forgot about that.

• 1:18:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, God, that seems so long ago.

• 1:18:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, we've done so much between that span of time. It's kinda crazy, but we've got

• 1:19:00Bunnie XO?

  Crazy.

• 1:19:01Speaker 04

  So many cool things in this new season of Meet the D Fords.

• 1:19:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be fun, and I'm looking forward to a frickin' break.

• 1:19:08Speaker 04

  Oh, I know.

• 1:19:09Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I love filming the podcast, but I like a break too.

• 1:19:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, we go twenty-two weeks straight.

• 1:19:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:17Speaker 04

  Before we take breaks.

• 1:19:18Bunnie XO?

  Dropping.

• 1:19:19Speaker 05

  Crazy.

• 1:19:20Bunnie XO?

  Some podcasts don't even do seasons. I don't know how they do that. I like to like, I don't know, have some sort of like.

• 1:19:26Speaker 04

  It's like a fresh start.

• 1:19:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and like we do a different cover and it's like, I don't know, we just, we try to keep it fresh, crisp, you know?

• 1:19:35Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 1:19:35Bunnie XO?

  So, yeah. Well, it's hot as fucking balls in Tennessee, dude. Like, first of all, it's a frickin' monsoon. It won't stop raining. I can't get anything done on my fucking farm.

• 1:19:46Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:19:47Bunnie XO?

  It's a fucking mud hill, but.

• 1:19:50Speaker 04

  He was a farmer now.

• 1:19:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, Haley, Haley showed up and showed out.

• 1:19:55Speaker 04

  We got a farmer over here. We really, we should use that content for her farmer's only profile.

• 1:20:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:01Speaker 05

  I took a great photo with.

• 1:20:03Speaker 04

  In the overalls?

• 1:20:03Speaker 05

  Pony boy's penis.

• 1:20:05Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:20:05Speaker 05

  Not, that sounded weird.

• 1:20:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was kinda like, you know, those like, uh.

• 1:20:10Speaker 04

  Where you hold a small person.

• 1:20:11Speaker 05

  Tower of pizza.

• 1:20:12Speaker 04

  Far away.

• 1:20:13Bunnie XO?

  His fucking wiener is always hanging.

• 1:20:15Speaker 04

  It, he put it away the other day. I was like, where did it go? Oh, yeah, hours. It was gone. I was like, wow, he actually put it away. Maybe he's calm. I don't know.

• 1:20:23Bunnie XO?

  No, when they're calm is when it hangs.

• 1:20:25Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:20:26Bunnie XO?

  So he might be kind of just getting used to his, yeah. So I don't know if you guys saw my TikTok that I made, but Ponyboy has gone to live with memes because I brought him, originally Mimi wanted Ponyboy anyways.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 1:20:39Bunnie XO?

  But I was like, no, no, no, let me try. You know, we'll get him here, whatever. And for the first like couple of days, he was a great fit. And then after that, he just started bullying the fuck out of everybody. It's like, once he got comfortable.

• 1:20:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:51Speaker 05

  He kept kicking Nova too.

• 1:20:52Bunnie XO?

  But he especially was bullying Nova and I just didn't like that. He like created a divide in between Nova and Donkey. And like, Donkey would not even fuck with her.

• 1:21:01Speaker 04

  Cause Nova kind of attached to him a little bit and kind of excluded her, her old boyfriend.

• 1:21:08Speaker 05

  I know you guys don't watch Love Island, but I feel like you have a Love Island going on.

• 1:21:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:12Speaker 05

  And I feel like Ponyboy was like the brand new bombshell that walked in and like split up.

• 1:21:17Bunnie XO?

  No, I heard fucking, they featured Jay's song, Save Me on Love Island.

• 1:21:21Speaker 05

  I haven't gotten to that yet, but I'm, I'm getting to it.

• 1:21:25Bunnie XO?

  Who needs to be saved?

• 1:21:26Speaker 05

  It's save, it's save me. It's the right at like when Hud is about to like crash out again.

• 1:21:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 1:21:33Speaker 05

  Like, she's like, what'd you guys do? And they're like, we went on the, we went to the beach. She goes, my dream date. And then it plays, save me.

• 1:21:41Bunnie XO?

  I gotta see this. Can we pull it up somehow? Or is there any way to see it?

• 1:21:44Speaker 04

  Can you watch it like right now?

• 1:21:46Speaker 05

  What do you mean?

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  Like, yeah, out to watch. Okay.

• 1:21:48Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, it's out to watch.

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  Cast it onto the TV.

• 1:21:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:51Speaker 05

  I'll find it on TikTok.

• 1:21:52Speaker 04

  Find that place.

• 1:21:53Bunnie XO?

  That is fucking hilarious.

• 1:21:54Speaker 04

  I would never expect that.

• 1:21:56Bunnie XO?

  That's so funny. Yeah. Somebody told me that today. I think my trainer Lisa told me and I was like, what?

• 1:22:01Speaker 04

  It's so funny. I, I used the song, Save Me quite often in my life when I'm like.

• 1:22:06Speaker 05

  I'm not okay.

• 1:22:07Speaker 04

  Dying, yeah, I'm not okay. If I'm dying of heat, I'm like, I'm not okay.

• 1:22:11Speaker 05

  Me too.

• 1:22:12Bunnie XO?

  I don't. My husband blames me for his algorithm on Pandora being messed up because anytime a Jelly Roll song comes on, I skip it. Yeah. I can't listen to, I love my husband to death, but I do not listen to his music. I'll listen to his old stuff.

• 1:22:27Speaker 04

  We're good. She'll be able to, once she finds it.

• 1:22:33Bunnie XO?

  Okay, about it. Do I stream there? You did.

• 1:22:38Bunnie XO?

  So funny. I'm sorry, but whoever Huda is, she has completely made Love Island. Yeah. She's the only person I hear about. She crashes out almost every episode. That's the reason I watched it. What is she crashing out about?

• 1:22:52Bunnie XO?

  She's the one who says, I'm a mommy, right? Mamacita. Mamacita, yeah. Yeah, I just got to that episode. Oh, it's great. It's great. I mean, Love Island should thank her. Let's get her on the podcast. I would love to get her on the podcast. For sure. I don't even watch. I think they're still filming. I don't even watch Love Island, but I'll fucking start watching it tonight. I'm only gonna watch it because of Huda. You, that, you will binge it. I seen her shaking her ass and I was like, hey. She was a, she's a stripper. I, even more reason to love her. I love her. Mamacita. Mamacita. And then I heard people are like trying to shame her because she had like work done on her face or something. I think her lips look great. Everyone's like, her lips and lashes. I'm like, I love them. I think she looks beautiful. Ready? Yep.

• 1:23:36Speaker 11

  No, he didn't really say anything about you on the date. He was just saying that it was a really stressful situation. What was the date? It was just like sitting down, like on the beach. My dream date. Cute. And he knows that.

• 1:23:54Bunnie XO?

  That is hilarious. Oh my god. Sitting down on the beach. You know what? Jay and I should fucking do that sound together. That would be so funny. Send me that. Send me that so I have it. You should. That would be so funny. That would be hilarious. Yeah, so I guess I'm gonna dive into Love Island tonight. I was browsing through TikTok the other day and my FYP's, my FYP has been on fire lately. It's been like crazy. This girl is on TikTok.

• 1:24:24Bunnie XO?

  Talking about how I can't even believe I'm about to say this. She had like a blood disorder in high school. So she had to get a rib removed. And after the surgery, she asked the surgeon like, hey, can I keep my rib? And the surgeon's like, yeah, sure. So he gives it to her in like a bottle of formaldehyde. Well, she got it home and after like a few weeks, she was looking at it and she said that there was like meat still on it and like drove her crazy. And she was like, I don't understand why there's meat on it, right? So she boils it, boils all the meat off the bone and then proceeds to take a nibble of her own flesh.

• 1:25:10Bunnie XO?

  She tells the story on TikTok.

• 1:25:14Speaker 05

  Not where I thought the story was going.

• 1:25:16Bunnie XO?

  Do you guys want to hear her tell the story?

• 1:25:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, low key.

• 1:25:19Bunnie XO?

  It's crazy.

• 1:25:21Speaker 05

  Was it good?

• 1:25:22Speaker 12

  When I was in high school, I had to get my rib removed for this rare like blood syndrome thing. And so when I got it removed, I asked for it back after the surgery. And for some reason, they just agreed to give it back to me and they gave it back in this little vial filled with liquid. And there was still like meat on it, like muscle. And so when I got home, I had to get all the muscle off so it would stay like preserved and wouldn't like rot. And so I boiled it in this pot. And then at the end I had a rib with cooked meat on it and I tried some of it. I ate some of it. So I have eaten some of my own human flesh and I think that's pretty cool. And I don't think it's that weird, honestly.

• 1:26:03Speaker 05

  Fucking excuse me?

• 1:26:05Speaker 12

  Yeah, I think it's pretty exciting. It didn't taste good, by the way, it tasted very bad, probably because it was soaking in some like formaldehyde for a while. I don't know.

• 1:26:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so that's how my FYP has been for the past couple of fucking weeks.

• 1:26:18Speaker 05

  Aren't you supposed to ingest formaldehyde?

• 1:26:20Bunnie XO?

  I don't think so.

• 1:26:21Speaker 05

  They're gonna bomb you in.

• 1:26:22Bunnie XO?

  I don't think so.

• 1:26:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, no.

• 1:26:25Bunnie XO?

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• 1:27:08Bunnie XO?

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• 1:27:31Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:27:34Speaker 05

  You haven't heard that?

• 1:27:35Bunnie XO?

  The fuck?

• 1:27:36Speaker 05

  Oh, I heard it. Over a billion served.

• 1:27:38Bunnie XO?

  We literally, yes.

• 1:27:42Speaker 05

  Didn't you?

• 1:27:44Bunnie XO?

  You know when you chew on the sides of your fingernails?

• 1:27:47Speaker 05

  That's different.

• 1:27:48Bunnie XO?

  How is that different? You're eating a piece of yourself. That's cannibalism. You're telling me right now, if you don't, if you take the little skin on the side of your nails-

• 1:27:55Speaker 05

  Isn't that like dead skin though? So technically?

• 1:27:57Bunnie XO?

  No, that's cannibalism.

• 1:27:58Speaker 05

  That's not like flesh and meat though. I eat the fucking skin on the side of my fingernails.

• 1:28:01Bunnie XO?

  Then you're cannibal.

• 1:28:02Speaker 05

  What about chewing on your lip?

• 1:28:04Bunnie XO?

  Cannibal. I've chewed on my lip all the time, but I'm not eating shit that's inside of me.

• 1:28:09Speaker 05

  I'm not boiling my own flesh.

• 1:28:10Bunnie XO?

  There's something different about that.

• 1:28:12Speaker 05

  Rib.

• 1:28:12Bunnie XO?

  Just fucking moist meat, fucking hanging off the bone.

• 1:28:15Speaker 05

  Don't do that. Don't ever say that again.

• 1:28:16Bunnie XO?

  Moist meat hanging off the bone.

• 1:28:19Speaker 05

  Take that back.

• 1:28:19Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm moist. Okay?

• 1:28:23Speaker 05

  You just looked into my soul.

• 1:28:25Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm, yeah. Eating flesh off of a bone is completely different than eating the sides of your fucking fingernail. Yeah, you can't convince me otherwise. There's no fucking argument. Hell, no, we won't go. I'd rather eat my fucking toenails than eat something that came off the inside of me. Whoa, Sasha did. Yeah, she did. And it's the strong one. It was the big, strong one. That one didn't even, it was like a dagger. I don't know how she did it. She put some jelly on it. Put jam on it. Grandma's jam. The Amish jam, right?

• 1:28:57Bunnie XO?

  Grandma's jam.

• 1:28:59Speaker 04

  I gotta confess something. I clipped my toenail the other day and the whole thing came off.

• 1:29:09Bunnie XO?

  Was that necessary?

• 1:29:11Speaker 04

  I felt it was share and tell, right?

• 1:29:14Bunnie XO?

  I mean, what are we, we're sharing somebody else's story, not our own. God, that is so, I can't, I realized that I have a different tism than Bailey does. Like, I, we all have our own tisms, like certain things gross us out. Bailey walks outside in socks and they get sopping wet. Okay, thank you. I'm the same way. It drives me crazy. And like she'll walk around and fucking like in the farm with wet socks.

• 1:29:50Speaker 04

  I'm gonna throw up.

• 1:29:51Bunnie XO?

  Okay, I'm glad I'm not crazy because every time she does it, I'm like Bailey. What kind of psychopath likes wet socks? And she wears jeans to farm in. I'm like, how do you wear tight ass jeans to farm in? She's like, how do you wear leggings? I'm like, I'm wearing cotton breathable fucking shit, you know?

• 1:30:08Speaker 04

  We were trying to catch the horse. Mind you guys, it took us six hours to catch this horse because it had just monsooned through this steep hill that he was on. It's her with a rope and she's just, she goes, I'm just pissed now. She's walking with this lasso. She's like, I'm gonna just lasso him.

• 1:30:26Bunnie XO?

  Like, I'm not even fucking, that fucking horse had some.

• 1:30:30Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:30:30Bunnie XO?

  That horse had some gallop, alright?

• 1:30:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:33Bunnie XO?

  He was, and he was getting mad. He's like

• 1:30:36Speaker 04

  What was Bailey wearing doing this?

• 1:30:38Bunnie XO?

  Huh?

• 1:30:38Speaker 04

  What was Bailey wearing to do this?

• 1:30:40Bunnie XO?

  Tight ass jeans.

• 1:30:41Speaker 04

  No, no, no. The catching it, she was in

• 1:30:43Bunnie XO?

  Oh, hey dudes.

• 1:30:44Speaker 04

  Hey dudes, no socks.

• 1:30:46Bunnie XO?

  Bikini or something.

• 1:30:47Speaker 04

  And a bathing suit.

• 1:30:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:49Speaker 04

  I said, what are you doing?

• 1:30:50Bunnie XO?

  I said, go shower.

• 1:30:51Speaker 04

  Hey dudes on the farm.

• 1:30:52Bunnie XO?

  Bro, it was so gross. I don't know how she does it. I'm like, we have a different tism. There's no way in hell I could do that.

• 1:31:00Speaker 04

  Absolutely not.

• 1:31:01Bunnie XO?

  We established that we have different tisms. Hers is like texture and like,

• 1:31:07Bunnie XO?

  it's like textures of like foods and stuff like that. Where mine is like textures of clothes.

• 1:31:14Speaker 05

  See, mine's more food than fabrics.

• 1:31:17Speaker 04

  Oh, like the wood spoon she tried to touch me with the other day. I wanted to beat her with it.

• 1:31:22Bunnie XO?

  You added in your house.

• 1:31:23Speaker 04

  I know, but it wasn't like that when I bought it. I test the spoons before I buy them, but then they like dry out after you wash them a couple of times. And then they get this like gritty texture to it and it makes my teeth hurt.

• 1:31:35Bunnie XO?

  I used to, when I was younger, my, you know, like car door handles, I used to, I had like the, this is how I know I was fucking had tism since I was a kid. It used to gross me out so bad, but I made myself do it and it's making me get fucking goosebumps right now, but I would slide my nail in it. In that, oh, excuse me, what? In that little crease. Oh, it was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah. I don't know why I did it, but it was like.

• 1:31:59Speaker 05

  Nail real it. I grabbed something today in a bag and this whole nail came back this way.

• 1:32:05Bunnie XO?

  Nope. Can't do it. No, can't do it, Kevin.

• 1:32:09Speaker 05

  Came back this way.

• 1:32:10Bunnie XO?

  Today we have on the couch, Wiz Khalifa.

• 1:32:14Speaker 13

  Hey, what's up?

• 1:32:15Bunnie XO?

  How you doing?

• 1:32:16Speaker 13

  I'm chilling.

• 1:32:17Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I'm so happy you're here.

• 1:32:19Speaker 13

  Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

• 1:32:20Bunnie XO?

  You are just like the smoothest cat, always and forever. Every time I see you, you have a smile on your face. You're just a chill vibe. You remind me so much of my dad, cause I used to always say my dad was like the coolest cat. And then I found out that you were born September 8th. My dad was September 4th.

• 1:32:36Speaker 13

  Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.

• 1:32:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So you guys have just that like super chill, super cool vibe.

• 1:32:42Speaker 13

  Yeah, thank you.

• 1:32:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, of course. If I could compare you to anybody, I'm sure you get this a lot. It's, I swear you and Snoop Dogg are like the same human, just different font.

• 1:32:50Speaker 13

  Exactly.

• 1:32:51Bunnie XO?

  Literally. Was he an inspiration for you growing up?

• 1:32:53Speaker 13

  Huge inspiration for me growing up, especially in my teen years, like just being like a taller and skinny dude. It was like, you know, I've had to find my swag and then just looking at Snoop, that was like the tallest, coolest, skinniest dude ever. So it was like, you know what I mean? I definitely modeled myself, just my whole. You know, approach after, you know, Snoop's rules.

• 1:33:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:17Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:33:18Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. I've missed pimp Snoop.

• 1:33:20Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:33:21Bunnie XO?

  Can we bring him back?

• 1:33:22Speaker 13

  There's a lot of people who don't even know he was a pimp.

• 1:33:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I do. I listen. I grew up in that lifestyle in Vegas, so I loved pimp Snoop. I'm like, bring him back. Remember when he used to hang out with Bishop Don Juan all the time and like that whole era that he went through?

• 1:33:35Speaker 13

  Exactly. Yeah, he raised us. He raised us right.

• 1:33:38Bunnie XO?

  He did raise us right. Um, if, so you know how him and Martha Stewart have that TV show? If they were to replace Snoop with you, who would you bring on as your Martha?

• 1:33:49Speaker 13

  Who would be my Martha?

• 1:33:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:50Speaker 13

  I think like, uh, Chelsea Handler.

• 1:33:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:33:54Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:33:54Bunnie XO?

  She's fucking hilarious, dude.

• 1:33:56Speaker 13

  Funny as hell, yo.

• 1:33:57Bunnie XO?

  We love Chelsea in this house. She actually gave, is one of the first people who gave us like our first break.

• 1:34:04Speaker 13

  Uh huh.

• 1:34:04Bunnie XO?

  As far as like reality TV.

• 1:34:06Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:34:06Bunnie XO?

  She believed in our family and like shot, I know, she's a fucking, she's so dope.

• 1:34:10Speaker 13

  I didn't even know that. She just a G to me as well.

• 1:34:13Bunnie XO?

  She is.

• 1:34:13Speaker 13

  Yeah, so I, that would be like my Martha for sure.

• 1:34:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, dude, I think we need to, we need to do that.

• 1:34:18Speaker 13

  We could.

• 1:34:19Bunnie XO?

  We need to get Wiz and Chelsea Handler in a fucking TV show together. That would be so fire.

• 1:34:24Speaker 13

  That would be awesome.

• 1:34:25Bunnie XO?

  I know that you're stoned all the time and you're not smoking today on my podcast. Do you feel out of your element a little bit?

• 1:34:30Speaker 13

  No, I'm good. I got high before I came in.

• 1:34:32Bunnie XO?

  All right, good.

• 1:34:32Speaker 13

  It's all good. I'm not tripping.

• 1:34:34Bunnie XO?

  What are some of your favorite stoner foods?

• 1:34:37Speaker 13

  Favorite stoner foods, I would have to go with Funyuns as far as chips.

• 1:34:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:43Speaker 13

  Um, I like to eat a lot of fruit.

• 1:34:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:46Speaker 13

  I like to eat like pineapple and grapes and I just like get a big ass bowl of fruit, just mix it all together.

• 1:34:52Bunnie XO?

  I love, it reminds me of that TikTok. I like a lot of fresh fruit.

• 1:34:55Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:34:56Bunnie XO?

  From the Step Brothers? Is that from Step Brothers? I like a lot of fresh fruit.

• 1:35:01Speaker 13

  Cereal anytime of the day.

• 1:35:03Bunnie XO?

  What's your favorite cereal?

• 1:35:04Speaker 13

  Uh, Apple Jacks.

• 1:35:06Bunnie XO?

  Really? That's different. I, I normally hear like Lucky Charms or Captain Crunch.

• 1:35:10Speaker 13

  Okay, for real? I, I usually hear Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

• 1:35:13Bunnie XO?

  I do love a good Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Honey Gramps.

• 1:35:15Speaker 13

  Yeah, Honey Gramps is good.

• 1:35:17Bunnie XO?

  Don't fuck around.

• 1:35:18Speaker 13

  Honey Nut Cheerios.

• 1:35:19Bunnie XO?

  Delish.

• 1:35:19Speaker 13

  Yeah, don't sleep, sleep on them either.

• 1:35:21Bunnie XO?

  Dude, I love me some fucking Cheerios, dude.

• 1:35:23Speaker 13

  Apple Jacks are good because they're like flavored and they're sweet and the consistency, they don't get all soggy very fast. I like Apple Jacks.

• 1:35:32Bunnie XO?

  Have you ever thought about doing like reality TV? I think you are literally made for it.

• 1:35:36Speaker 13

  I did. Thank you so much. I used to watch so much reality TV when I was a kid, like Real World and like all of that stuff.

• 1:35:44Bunnie XO?

  I miss the OG Real World.

• 1:35:45Speaker 13

  Yo, me too. And I used to like, that was my thing. I wanted to be like a personality.

• 1:35:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:50Speaker 13

  And yeah, so as I got older, I started to make my own little series on YouTube. They're called Day to Days. But they're like, you know, they're not TV ready because there's a lot of weed on there.

• 1:36:02Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:36:03Speaker 13

  But yeah, if I ever got the opportunity to do something like that, where I could show like my family or my life or just my personality, I would love that. I think that would be hella fun.

• 1:36:13Bunnie XO?

  I think you have enough star power now to make that happen.

• 1:36:15Speaker 13

  Yeah, I'm a super fun dude too. Like I try anything. It don't matter what it is.

• 1:36:20Bunnie XO?

  I think people would just want to see you like raise your kids. Like I probably like the dynamic between you and your son.

• 1:36:26Speaker 13

  Even even if I got to do like, stuff with other people's kids as well too. Like, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:36:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:34Speaker 13

  I want to do like a Wes summer camp type thing.

• 1:36:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that would be so sweet.

• 1:36:38Speaker 13

  Yeah, where we like play games and we boxing and we working out and we having fun and we being creative. Yeah, I'll be tight.

• 1:36:47Bunnie XO?

  I love that. If anybody's listening that can make that happen, you guys need to reach out to his team and make that happen.

• 1:36:52Speaker 13

  Yeah, Wes's Wes's summer camp.

• 1:36:53Bunnie XO?

  Have you ever seen that TV show, um, Drunk History?

• 1:36:57Speaker 13

  I have.

• 1:36:57Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so say Netflix came to you and they gave you a show called High History.

• 1:37:02Speaker 13

  Uh huh.

• 1:37:03Bunnie XO?

  What would your first historical moment be um that you would relive, that you'd get stoned and just relive?

• 1:37:10Speaker 13

  Um, I would want to get stoned and relive. Hmm. This all good. I mean, history is like pretty dark.

• 1:37:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it is. It is, actually.

• 1:37:24Speaker 13

  So I don't want to, I don't want to go through that.

• 1:37:27Bunnie XO?

  He's like, no dark shit.

• 1:37:29Speaker 13

  Yeah, no dark shit. I probably wanna get stoned and go to like a Muhammad Ali fight.

• 1:37:34Bunnie XO?

  That'd be dope. That would be iconic. Dude, that would be so cool.

• 1:37:39Speaker 13

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:37:40Bunnie XO?

  What a moment in time.

• 1:37:42Speaker 13

  Uh huh, for sure.

• 1:37:43Bunnie XO?

  I wish boxing was like it was back in the day. Like Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard. I was a hu- my dad was a huge boxing fan growing up. So like I got to watch all that growing up. And I just feel like boxing's cool now, but it's not like it was back in the day.

• 1:37:59Speaker 13

  Absolutely. Yeah, the sport of it has changed and just like how people enjoy it has changed. But back in the day, yeah, it was awesome. It was exciting.

• 1:38:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:10Speaker 13

  You had like really, really good fighters and multiple really good fighters too.

• 1:38:15Bunnie XO?

  So many.

• 1:38:16Speaker 13

  Yeah, a lot of them.

• 1:38:18Bunnie XO?

  Mike Tyson used to hang out in the strip club that I worked at all the time.

• 1:38:21Speaker 13

  Uh huh.

• 1:38:21Bunnie XO?

  And he was the coolest dude. He used to give me money because I never bothered him.

• 1:38:26Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:38:27Bunnie XO?

  He'd be like, I'd walk by and he would just hand me like a thousand dollars and just like, thank you for leaving me alone.

• 1:38:32Speaker 13

  Yeah, he just respected that.

• 1:38:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. No, he was just so, because everybody was always on him and always wanted his attention. And he noticed that I never like just, you know, he was already getting bombarded, but he was just the sweetest dude.

• 1:38:42Speaker 13

  That's nice. That's what's.

• 1:38:43Bunnie XO?

  That's why it's crazy that.

• 1:38:44Speaker 13

  I love Mike now too. He's so cool, like.

• 1:38:46Bunnie XO?

  He's amazing.

• 1:38:47Speaker 13

  He's just super chill. He'd be smoking weed and he just in his own world. He's a good dude, man.

• 1:38:52Bunnie XO?

  Anybody that can raise pigeons the way he does and love them.

• 1:38:55Speaker 13

  Right.

• 1:38:55Bunnie XO?

  Because honestly, like pigeons are like a forgotful, like a forgotten like bird. Because they used to do so much, like they used to fucking send messages during the war. And like, you know, like they were very useful. And then now they're like known as like, you know.

• 1:39:10Speaker 13

  Dirty birds.

• 1:39:10Bunnie XO?

  Dirty birds. And then, you know, there's Mike over there just raising pigeons.

• 1:39:14Speaker 13

  Loving that dirty bird.

• 1:39:16Bunnie XO?

  Loving the shit out of a dirty bird. So I also read that you started writing lyrics and recording music at age nine or 10. Like, were you just musical from the gate? Like, have you always had that sense of like just rhythm and soul?

• 1:39:31Speaker 13

  Hmm. I think, yeah. Also, uh, actually, like, my parents played a lot of music in the house. Just like getting ready or cleaning up or driving. So it was always around me and it was something that made me feel good. But I got some of my best memories from music or where I was at or what I was doing. So that kind of translated into my love for music. And then my cousins, they were, they were rapping and doing shit just because they were older than me.

• 1:40:03Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:40:03Speaker 13

  So that's when I figured out that I could actually make it. And I was like, oh, okay, this isn't that difficult. It's like when you get an instrument and you start playing.

• 1:40:11Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:40:11Speaker 13

  It was the same thing for me. I was just kind of fucking around, like writing raps here and there. And then people just started telling me how good I was. So I just practiced and kept going and going and going. And my mind is like, I got a really big imagination. So I would see stuff that people didn't necessarily see as like doable. I would see it as like, okay, we, we could make an album. We could, you know, make merch. We could.

• 1:40:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:39Speaker 13

  Put on a show. We could, you know what I mean? So I just started like developing into this over time. But it was all based off of enjoying music and loving how it made me feel. Like, I remember watching music videos and just being blown away or like saving up all my money to go buy, you know, Bone Thugs or Harmony tape or something.

• 1:41:00Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:41:00Speaker 13

  You know what I mean?

• 1:41:01Bunnie XO?

  We love them.

• 1:41:01Speaker 13

  It's so, it was so valuable to me. It wasn't like just music.

• 1:41:06Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:41:06Speaker 13

  So like, that's, that's what started me, uh, creating and, and doing what I'm doing.

• 1:41:10Bunnie XO?

  Music was the soundtrack to your life.

• 1:41:12Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:41:13Bunnie XO?

  I feel like it, our parents, actually, that was one of the really cool things that they did for us. Is I grew up in a very musical household too. And like, you know, I had so many influences. What were some of your influences growing up that inspired you to rap? But also just even that weren't in the rap genre?

• 1:41:28Speaker 13

  Yeah, uh, my dad listened to everything. He listened to Journey. He listened to Bob Marley. He would listen to, uh, Whitney Houston.

• 1:41:37Bunnie XO?

  I love Whitney, yep.

• 1:41:38Speaker 13

  My dad had like a huge record collection. So we would just sit down and listen to funk records, everything. And my mom was more like the hip hop, like she was, she's current.

• 1:41:48Bunnie XO?

  Mom's the G.

• 1:41:49Speaker 13

  Oh, yeah, my mom's a G. She listened to Too Short.

• 1:41:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I love it. I love it. Okay, so mom's with the shit.

• 1:41:56Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:41:57Bunnie XO?

  All right, cool.

• 1:41:57Speaker 13

  My mom smoked weed and everything.

• 1:41:59Bunnie XO?

  I love mom.

• 1:42:00Speaker 13

  That's who I got smoking weed from, for sure.

• 1:42:02Bunnie XO?

  Oh. Can you take me on the journey of you doing, um, MMA and fitness.

• 1:42:07Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:42:08Bunnie XO?

  When, how did you get into this? Cause I think that's amazing.

• 1:42:12Speaker 13

  Thank you.

• 1:42:12Bunnie XO?

  It's, it's very taxing on the body to be doing stuff like that, so.

• 1:42:16Speaker 13

  Yeah, yeah, I trained pretty hard too. I, I got into it, um, my big homies, they were doing jujitsu at the time and they were like, hey, you need to come to the gym and we're gonna rough you up and all of this stuff. So as soon as I got to the gym, they instantly were like, you need to lift weights. Like you're way too small. You gotta eat and you gotta lift weights. You could, you could actually do something if you, you know what I mean? Took it seriously.

• 1:42:43Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:42:43Speaker 13

  So I got on like a regimen where I was, you know, doing a certain amount of calories and making sure I started sleeping. And then I just liked how my body felt and like what it did to me mentally as well. And the martial arts part of it just kind of turned into its own little thing. Cause I was naturally a little bit gifted at it, but just being the type of person where I wanna do something over and over and over and try to perfect it. That's the perfect sport for that. Cause you just get better every day. So each and every day you learning new techniques or just fine tuning or practicing or drilling or there's always something to do. So it's like that forever project for me. Like that's how I feel like martial arts is.

• 1:43:28Speaker 13

  It's just something that I could practice for the rest of my life and it is good for my body and it's good for me mentally. It's a skill that I, that I could use if I needed to.

• 1:43:39Bunnie XO?

  Hopefully not though.

• 1:43:41Speaker 13

  Nah, I don't, I don't see. But being a dad though, you gotta be ready for that shit too. Cause it's like, look, I'm not calling security. I'm, I'ma beat your dad up.

• 1:43:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely, right? Would you ever fight in the ring professionally? Would you ever, if they offered it to you? Cause I think I had read also that you said you wanted to be a wrestler for a day.

• 1:44:00Speaker 13

  I did.

• 1:44:00Bunnie XO?

  Would you still do that?

• 1:44:02Speaker 13

  I would more do some wrestling shit than, than fighting. Cause wrestling is like entertainment, it's acting. Actually getting in the ring and doing, that's not what I trained for.

• 1:44:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:44:12Speaker 13

  But I'm trained good enough to do some shit. I'm always ready.

• 1:44:18Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:44:18Speaker 13

  And anybody who's ever seen me, um, Do what I do, they they know what level I perform on. So the whole getting in the ring. It's more for entertainment, like it makes everybody money and it's like, I'm not really into all that.

• 1:44:33Bunnie XO?

  What if they came to you with like a bag, though?

• 1:44:35Speaker 13

  What's the bag, though?

• 1:44:36Bunnie XO?

  I mean, name your price.

• 1:44:38Speaker 13

  It would have to be like fifty million.

• 1:44:41Bunnie XO?

  And then you would get in the ring?

• 1:44:42Speaker 13

  Yeah, it would be like Floyd Mayweather prices.

• 1:44:44Bunnie XO?

  I mean, you know, they might do it.

• 1:44:46Speaker 13

  I need fifty M's for my first fight, guaranteed. Cause it's gonna like, it's gonna pull a big crowd.

• 1:44:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:53Speaker 13

  And I'm gonna knock somebody out.

• 1:44:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:55Speaker 13

  Cold.

• 1:44:58Bunnie XO?

  What's your move? What is your move? Like, if you had a move in the ring?

• 1:45:01Speaker 13

  Well, if I did boxing.

• 1:45:04Speaker 13

  It would probably be like an overhand right.

• 1:45:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:07Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:45:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:45:08Speaker 13

  That's, that's, that's, that's pretty much night night. Or my, or my, or my lead left hook.

• 1:45:12Bunnie XO?

  Ooh, southpaw.

• 1:45:14Speaker 13

  Yeah, no, well, the lead left is, is orthodox, but it's just coming from the left. So I'm either hit you in the face or a nice little lead left body shot.

• 1:45:22Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 1:45:23Speaker 13

  But if we doing Muay Thai.

• 1:45:25Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:45:26Speaker 13

  There's nobody seeing me in Muay Thai. Like boxing is different because you only got hands.

• 1:45:31Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:45:31Speaker 13

  But if I get to use my feet and my, and my, and my elbows and my knees. Yeah, it's, oh, there's nobody seeing me in that shit.

• 1:45:37Bunnie XO?

  You're knocking somebody out.

• 1:45:39Speaker 13

  Yeah, and I'm tall as hell, too, so you're not even getting close to me. Yeah, just one, one round kick.

• 1:45:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:46Speaker 13

  The hardest kick is probably like the, the spinning back kick.

• 1:45:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:49Speaker 13

  So like.

• 1:45:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:51Speaker 13

  If we really.

• 1:45:52Bunnie XO?

  You'd knock somebody's head off.

• 1:45:53Speaker 13

  Yeah, or like break some ribs or like puncture some lungs or something like that. Yeah, nice spinning back kick.

• 1:46:00Bunnie XO?

  I like it. Now we're talking.

• 1:46:01Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:46:02Bunnie XO?

  We gotta make this happen, too.

• 1:46:03Speaker 13

  Yeah, I like elbows, too, because it's like.

• 1:46:05Bunnie XO?

  Let me just manage you. I'm just kidding.

• 1:46:07Speaker 13

  Yeah, cause what elbow, like when you boxing, you got like the, the gloves are protecting them.

• 1:46:13Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:46:13Speaker 13

  But if we do MMA and I elbow you in your forehead and I split your forehead open and you're bleeding, it's gonna be hard for you to fight me for the rest of the fight.

• 1:46:21Bunnie XO?

  Or break a nose.

• 1:46:22Speaker 13

  Or if I knee you and break your rib in the first round, you're not really gonna wanna keep.

• 1:46:27Bunnie XO?

  Was, I feel like you're ready for this. I feel like you're.

• 1:46:30Speaker 13

  I don't wanna hurt anybody. I don't like hurting people. I like to have.

• 1:46:33Bunnie XO?

  You would rock the shit out of somebody, though.

• 1:46:36Speaker 13

  But they gotta pay me fifty M's if you wanna see some blood.

• 1:46:39Bunnie XO?

  All right, well, whoever's listening, let's make that fucking happen, cause I'm, I'm tuning in. I wanna see somebody get their ass whooped. What is something embarrassing you do alone that no one knows about until now?

• 1:46:50Speaker 13

  Something embarrassing that I do alone that no one knows about. I cry a lot.

• 1:46:57Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 1:46:58Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:46:59Bunnie XO?

  You're emotional. That's sweet, though.

• 1:47:01Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:47:02Bunnie XO?

  I don't think that's embarrassing.

• 1:47:04Speaker 13

  It is to me, because I'll be wa- I was watching like, what's that, Encanto? What's that Disney movie?

• 1:47:11Bunnie XO?

  I'm not sure.

• 1:47:12Speaker 13

  It's the one with the Spanish girl and her family. What's that movie called? Man, I was crying at that shit the other day.

• 1:47:19Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:47:19Speaker 13

  You cried too? I'm crying just thinking about it. It was so sweet. It was the sweetest freaking movie ever. It's so sweet.

• 1:47:28Bunnie XO?

  It's sweet, it's not sad?

• 1:47:29Speaker 13

  No, it's just sweet. It's like the sweetest thing. I mean, of course, it's like sad, it hits you, but it's like...

• 1:47:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:36Speaker 13

  It's so sweet. It was like, I was like, aw, man, here, here we go.

• 1:47:39Bunnie XO?

  I don't think that's a weakness, though. I think that a man that can, you know, show emotion, that's awesome. That just means that you're in tune with it.

• 1:47:46Speaker 13

  Yeah, for sure. I, I think I'm very in tune with it.

• 1:47:49Bunnie XO?

  He said, "I'm very in tune with it." So, let's say some aliens came down to Earth and you're the spokesman for Earth.

• 1:47:56Speaker 13

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:47:56Bunnie XO?

  What would you, what's the first thing that you would show aliens and prove to them like that we're actually like cool people down here?

• 1:48:02Speaker 13

  I would definitely smoke weed with them.

• 1:48:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. You don't think they're not already smoking weed?

• 1:48:08Speaker 13

  I think they're like past smoking weed. We might, this might be like really prehistoric to them. They're like, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta bring them back to their origin, right? So, I would, because they're, they're aliens, like, everything is fast to them. It's just like, let's slow it down a little bit.

• 1:48:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:24Speaker 13

  I would smoke some weed with them and I would probably play them like a Parliament Funkadelic record.

• 1:48:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, there we go.

• 1:48:32Speaker 13

  Yeah, I would put on some, some Earth music.

• 1:48:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:35Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 1:48:36Bunnie XO?

  Would you only smoke weed with them or would you drop acid with them?

• 1:48:40Speaker 13

  I don't really do too much acid.

• 1:48:42Bunnie XO?

  I can't either. I could never.

• 1:48:43Speaker 13

  Yeah, yeah. So, I would rather just smoke the weed.

• 1:48:45Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:48:45Speaker 13

  Yeah. Smoke weed, listen to records, watch a movie, go for a ride, get burgers.

• 1:48:52Bunnie XO?

  Aww. Any particular burger?

• 1:48:55Speaker 13

  Um...

• 1:48:57Speaker 13

  Where, where are the aliens landing? Are they landing here?

• 1:49:00Bunnie XO?

  They'll, not here. Nashville sucks. Let's take them to LA.

• 1:49:03Speaker 13

  To LA?

• 1:49:04Bunnie XO?

  At least there's probably more to do.

• 1:49:05Speaker 13

  So we go to like Astro Burger or something like that in Hollywood? Cause we get to, we get to cruise through Hollywood in the low rider, smoke weed and then go get burgers.

• 1:49:14Bunnie XO?

  Have you ever dropped acid before? Have you ever done psychedelics?

• 1:49:17Speaker 13

  Yeah, I did.

• 1:49:17Bunnie XO?

  You don't like them?

• 1:49:18Speaker 13

  I think I did too much.

• 1:49:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:20Speaker 13

  I did, I did acid with Diplo.

• 1:49:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I would never do acid with Diplo.

• 1:49:25Speaker 13

  It sounds like a good idea, right?

• 1:49:26Bunnie XO?

  I, no. Nope. Doesn't sound good to me.

• 1:49:30Speaker 13

  I'm like, it's Diplo. Like, this is gonna be awesome.

• 1:49:33Bunnie XO?

  I feel like he's on a permanent acid trip.

• 1:49:35Speaker 13

  He is.

• 1:49:39Speaker 13

  He's walking acid.

• 1:49:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So how did that go?

• 1:49:43Speaker 13

  It was, it was, it was interesting. It was, um, it was, it was intense. That's what it was. It was super duper intense and it wasn't like a bad trip or anything.

• 1:49:57Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:49:59Speaker 13

  But I could definitely feel it. And I would like go places and be like, hold on, I need a little second to myself. And then I would just be randomly somewhere else. It's like, it's like, it was like a movie. It was like, I would blink and then I would wake up in another room.

• 1:50:14Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 1:50:15Speaker 13

  And I would blink and I would wake up in another room.

• 1:50:17Bunnie XO?

  I would have anxiety.

• 1:50:18Speaker 13

  It was crazy. And I thought I was Aladdin on a magic carpet for a minute.

• 1:50:22Bunnie XO?

  I thought I was Michael Jackson when I did mushrooms.

• 1:50:24Speaker 13

  Okay, cool. Yeah.

• 1:50:25Bunnie XO?

  I get it. I feel that.

• 1:50:26Speaker 13

  Yeah, I definitely for sure thought I was like sailing over the city on a magic carpet. Yeah.

• 1:50:32Bunnie XO?

  Uh, so that was your first and only time doing?

• 1:50:35Speaker 13

  Only time.

• 1:50:36Bunnie XO?

  Okay. He's like, yeah, I've never, yeah.

• 1:50:38Speaker 13

  I turned into Aladdin. I'm cool.

• 1:50:42Bunnie XO?

  All right. Final question. Build your dreams strip club. Name, theme, signature drink and house rules.

• 1:50:48Speaker 13

  Name? Nipolopolis.

• 1:50:57Bunnie XO?

  The other one was, hold on, I'm still hung up on Nipopolis and how fast you thought of that. You've thought of this before, Wiz. The late, um, oops, hold on, sorry. It was, build your dream strip club, name, what's the theme? What's your signature drink? And what's the house rules?

• 1:51:17Speaker 13

  Okay, um, the, the theme is eighties baddies.

• 1:51:24Bunnie XO?

  Yes, video vixen.

• 1:51:26Speaker 13

  Yeah, those are my favorite chicks.

• 1:51:28Bunnie XO?

  Oh, me too.

• 1:51:28Speaker 13

  They're so good, like, nice bodies, like, perfect boobs, cute little butt.

• 1:51:35Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 1:51:35Speaker 13

  Little bush, you know?

• 1:51:37Bunnie XO?

  Are you into bush?

• 1:51:38Speaker 13

  I like the little eighties bush.

• 1:51:39Bunnie XO?

  We like the bush.

• 1:51:40Speaker 13

  Well, wouldn't I have a bush floor? Yeah, it'd be a floor for bush.

• 1:51:46Bunnie XO?

  Not the bush floor, shit's hairy upstairs.

• 1:51:48Speaker 13

  It's hairy, it's hairy. And then downstairs, Nipopolis is regular. The signature drink will be the Napoleon dynamite.

• 1:52:01Bunnie XO?

  I'm crying.

• 1:52:03Speaker 13

  What's the last one?

• 1:52:03Bunnie XO?

  The, I'm sorry, I'm still just hung up on what you're saying here. I'm sorry, I can't get over the bush floor. Signature drink and what are the house rules?

• 1:52:13Speaker 13

  House rules. We gotta respect the ladies. That's the number one rule.

• 1:52:21Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:52:22Speaker 13

  Tip well.

• 1:52:25Bunnie XO?

  Leave room for the Holy Spirit.

• 1:52:26Speaker 13

  Leave room for the Holy Spirit.

• 1:52:28Bunnie XO?

  I like that.

• 1:52:29Speaker 13

  All right, cool.

• 1:52:29Bunnie XO?

  I like it.

• 1:52:30Speaker 13

  I love that. Welcome to Nipopolis.

• 1:52:35Bunnie XO?

  Wiz, thank you so much for coming on the podcast, babe.

• 1:52:38Speaker 13

  I'm happy to be here, thank you.

• 1:52:40Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate you so much. Come back anytime.

• 1:52:43Speaker 13

  I will.

• 1:52:43Bunnie XO?

  All right, and thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week, bye.

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