NOBODY WANTS TO DANCE Ft. Vanilla Mace | Episode 168

Our guest this week is Vanilla Mace!! Vanilla and Drew do a live blind unboxing and talk about Twitch streaming, Vanilla adopting a cat from her weed dealer, her job burning down right before she clocked in, the time Drew got flipped by a male stripper, and so much more! Shop Billie in-store and at ⁠⁠https://www.mybillie.com https://www.mybillie.com/ Vanilla IG: https://www.instagram.com/vanilllamace/?hl=en Vanilla Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@vanillamace?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:03Speaker 02

  There's this woman at my gym and she, every time she sees me, this is like the fourth time that she's done it, she's like, "I know you probably hate your hair. I know you probably hate it, but I love it." She's like, "No, I think it is so cute. It is so cute. I know you really probably hate it though." I know you hate that shit. I'm like, "Wait."

• 1:30Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show. Sorry, me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest. Today, we have the iconic, the hilarious, the unbelievably gorgeous Vanilla Mays.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Hello. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

• 1:49Drew Afualo?

  I'm so excited to have you.

• 1:50Speaker 02

  I'm so excited to be here.

• 1:51Drew Afualo?

  We were kind of kidding beforehand.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53Drew Afualo?

  But I was telling you, I am familiar with your content, but only recently when you went super viral for the blind boxes, did I realize you were following me. That's when I followed you back. But I used to watch your videos when you were pretending to be a DJ.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 2:08Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I love this.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  That'll do it. Yeah. Oh, my God. That is so funny. That was like, I feel like one of the kind of like little like shtick series things that I did that kind of people were like, still to this day, like people will be like, I love your DJ videos. I'm like, girl, it's been like three years since I did one of those, but thank you.

• 2:24Drew Afualo?

  That's the first time I remember seeing you.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. That's so funny. Thank you so much.

• 2:28Drew Afualo?

  I love. And I I saw recently that you got booked because of your DJ videos.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  I did. I did, actually.

• 2:33Drew Afualo?

  You said lying on the resume got me in there.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, actually, I'm still scared. I really have not been practicing, if I'm being honest. So we're gonna kind of just wing it and see how it goes. Don't if they're watching this, the people who booked me just no, it's going great. It's really going great. But, um, yeah, so I am excited about that. But I mean, nervous, but it's gonna be great.

• 2:52Drew Afualo?

  I think so. It's all about vibes.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:55Drew Afualo?

  When it comes to DJing, I've told everyone already that I have picked up DJing as a hobby, or I'm trying to anyway. I figure if white dudes especially can do it, I can do it.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 3:05Drew Afualo?

  I can master anything they touch.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  Like.

• 3:08Drew Afualo?

  And I can't sing for shit.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  And I'll do it better.

• 3:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. And I can't sing at all. So I'm like, they're gonna let me in that music industry one way or another. Figure that's my way in.

• 3:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. And you just kind of, I feel like, again, like you said, the vibe, like it's just as long as you look good up there.

• 3:21Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  It really doesn't matter. Like, are they gonna know? Like, if if my whole set's pre-recorded, like, who's really gonna know? You know what I mean? I look good. So.

• 3:29Drew Afualo?

  That's what they're gonna remember.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly, exactly.

• 3:32Drew Afualo?

  And I remember when I was saying that, I was like, I'm being serious. And I got like all the shit for it. Like, I got the the table, like, my man got me a table and like programming and all this stuff. I really have fun doing it. It is very hard. But I'm I'm having a good time. And I remember my friend was asking me, she's like, who are you DJing for? Like, who's the audience? And I was like, the whores.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  Like, literally, like, I need people to bust it open wide on this, like, now.

• 3:55Drew Afualo?

  Right. I want you to have the feeling that I had in the club.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:59Drew Afualo?

  When I was in the club back in, the clubs are gone.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Nobody wants to dance. Nobody wants to dance. Nobody wants to get down. Like, it's just, it's really, honestly, it's it's horrible. It's so tragic. And that's, no, seriously, though, that's the thing. I'm just like, if I am like. In the club, like, I wanna shake a little ass. Like, is that too much to ask for nowadays?

• 4:17Drew Afualo?

  I wanna dance and not be, like, threatened.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, actually. So I'm just like, yeah, and that's why, you know, again, the event that I'm gonna be doing, it's like around Pride, so I'm just like, okay, great. So it's just gonna be like all the girls gays days, like, and we're all just gonna have a good time, so.

• 4:31Drew Afualo?

  That's who I'm trying to DJ for, for real.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  Exactly. And they're gonna love it regardless.

• 4:35Drew Afualo?

  Right, cuz I, I went to Coachella this year. Did you go to Coachella?

• 4:37Speaker 02

  No.

• 4:38Drew Afualo?

  It was fun. It was a good time.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  That's my personal nightmare. It's Coachella, like, honestly.

• 4:44Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny? Mine too.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  Really?

• 4:46Drew Afualo?

  And I still went.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  But you know what? It's so brave. That's honestly very brave for you, yeah.

• 4:49Drew Afualo?

  I remember I was going, I was like, I'm prioritizing whore sets this year. Because a- all my friends are gay, which I love, but they are annoying. And so, like, they wanna go hold hands in the grass and watch the marias. I would love to do that. I'll do that too. But I was like, but also, I am gonna make a stop at Glorilla. I don't want anybody to get mad at me.

• 5:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:07Drew Afualo?

  But I went and saw DJ Mustard, and that was the best set I've ever watched in my life, and I'm being so serious.

• 5:13Speaker 02

  No, I bet it was, honestly.

• 5:15Drew Afualo?

  It was the best. He is my Mozart.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:17Drew Afualo?

  Honestly.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  The Mozart of our generation.

• 5:20Drew Afualo?

  He's my Mozart.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  For real. Like, no, so good. I, I, oh my god, I can't even. He has so many, like, bangers. So many. I couldn't even, like, I couldn't even fathom what that set was like.

• 5:30Drew Afualo?

  He opened with Rack City and brought out Tyga, which, but the song, banging.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 5:36Drew Afualo?

  And it was funny cuz he was on at the same time as Lady Gaga. And I love Lady Gaga. But see, I would buy tickets to go see Lady Gaga. I wouldn't buy tickets to go see Mustard. So I was weighing my bets. I was like, okay, maybe I'll, maybe I'll split the difference.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 5:51Drew Afualo?

  And then I heard those, like, first three bars of Rack City. I was like, I ain't making it to Lady Gaga.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  Just like, yeah, you're like, I'm sorry, Gaga, forgive me Gaga, like, forgive me.

• 6:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And then right after that, he played, like, I'm Different by 2 Chainz.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 6:04Drew Afualo?

  And Paranoid by Ty Dolla Sign. I was like, I'm sad, I'm parked.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, like, these are, like, these are bangers. I mean, yeah, I, sorry, Gaga. Sorry, like, what can you do?

• 6:12Drew Afualo?

  But now, I can't wait for that to be you. You being DJ Mustard.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:16Drew Afualo?

  And then I'm gonna go enjoy your set.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:18Drew Afualo?

  I'm looking forward to it.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  I know, I'm honestly, I'm just like, that's why I just wanna get up there and just like do stuff that like no one's ever done. Like, and I don't know, pop a titty, like, I don't know, like, it's just something, like, it just needs to be different, it needs to be like, it's like you said, it's just like the, the white guys, it's like, okay, we get it, like the fist bump, it's like, it's so tired, like, I need to do something different, something out of the box. Yeah, yeah.

• 6:38Drew Afualo?

  But I wanna, I wanna back up a little bit, talk about your lore, how you got into, I know you stream, you do YouTube, and now you're doing, obviously TikTok too. But I'd love to know how you got into content creation, how'd you get started?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Okay, so basically, um, I posted a TikTok one day. And, uh, it, I literally posted it and closed my phone, went to bed, and I woke up and it had like a million likes, I'm like, what the? Like, I just, it was like 2018, I'm like, I don't even know how this app works, so I'm being honest, like,

• 7:04Drew Afualo?

  Do you remember what it was?

• 7:05Speaker 02

  And it was, okay, it's this video of me, and, um, I have this light up pinata that I got from this arcade. And it's just plastic, and it has like a little stick that it comes with. And every time you hit the, hit it with a stick, it like changes a different color. And in the video, I'm just like, I'm gonna act out a scene, if I were on a date, and this is what I would do. And so I like have a fucking pinata, and I'm just like, let me set some mood lighting, and I just like beat the shit out of a pinata, and it turns like a million different colors, and it just went like stupid viral, whatever, and, uh, I was like, oh, cool, like, that's cool. And then I just like never, again, cause I was like, this was back when like, nobody took TikTok seriously, they all thought it was like, like musically, like a joke, kind of a thing.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  So I just was like, okay, that's cool, and then never really did anything with it. Um, and then, uh, I started streaming on Twitch in like 2021, and it was more just like for me, like for fun, and it would be like literally me and like four of my friends in the chat, and I'd be like, hey, guys.

• 8:04Drew Afualo?

  Talking to each other.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, literally.

• 8:06Drew Afualo?

  Two dumb bitches saying exactly.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  Like, literally, like my two brain cells in the thing, like, it was just like, yeah, and so it was more like for fun and for me, something I would do like on my free time. Um, and, cause I used to dance too, I used to dance at the ship club, and that was, yeah.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  My god, I'm so glad I'm out, girl.

• 8:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, I'm happy for you.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, thank you, thank you. But, um, so that was the thing, too, was like, it became something where I was like, okay, I mean, I gotta, I gotta work. Mom's gotta make some money, so I couldn't really stream as often as I wanted to, so I kinda like, you know, put that to the side for a little bit.

• 8:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  And then, um, started posting more on TikTok, doing the DJ stuff, and like, just kinda random stuff, and like, gaining a little bit more of a following. And then found out that you could go live on TikTok, almost like a Twitch kind of a thing, where you could stream your, like, desktop and like, play games on there, too. So I was like, oh, let me try this out. And, um, that went really well, and people were like, come, come over to Twitch. I was like, girl, I, I was, where were y'all at? I was like, I was there.

• 9:01Drew Afualo?

  It was me and my three friends.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  I was like, where were you guys? So, um, I eventually went back over there, and then now it's kinda like what it is now, like.

• 9:09Drew Afualo?

  Period. And then recent, very recently, you went super viral for the blind boxes.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 9:15Drew Afualo?

  And how, I know, I also know you have an extensive collection. I know you love to collect.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  Love a trinket.

• 9:20Drew Afualo?

  What, you love a little tchotchke?

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, love.

• 9:22Drew Afualo?

  It's so funny, because I saw your videos of, where you're showing your shelf with all your, uh, collectibles. And it's funny, because my sister's house looks exactly like yours.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  Really?

• 9:33Drew Afualo?

  All the same thing. She collects them, puts them in where dishes should be, they're all inside there.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  China cabinet?

• 9:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she has an all glass cabinet in her kitchen. And she's like, well, that's where all my sunny angels are gonna go.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, yeah.

• 9:43Drew Afualo?

  And I go, where you're supposed to put crystal. She's like, yeah, yeah, right here, I have the little shelves and everything.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  It's perfect.

• 9:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, her house looks exactly like that.

• 9:50Speaker 02

  I feel her on that. Like, no, literally, I'm like, everything needs to be like, in its little place, untouched, like, and I love it. It's just, I just love looking at it. It's just one of those things. I'm like, I love tiny things, anything cute and tiny, I'm like, sign me up.

• 10:02Drew Afualo?

  Little collectibles.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, just, just sign me up. Literally, I'm like, oh my god, just give it to me, I need it.

• 10:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. When I see little ugly things, I'm like, my sister would love that.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  You're like, oh, she would die.

• 10:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I'll buy it for her, and she'll be like, oh, thank you.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  She's like, that's the best thing I've ever seen, you know, literally me, I'm like, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is about it, but I'm just like, I need that in my pocket now. Like, I just need it.

• 10:22Drew Afualo?

  Take that home.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:23Drew Afualo?

  One time, my, my fiance, he was buying coffee for us, and then he saw these little stickers, and there was one that was like cherries, but they had these ugly little faces on them. They were like hand drawn stickers. It looked really cool. And he got it, and he was like, oh, here's coffee for everyone, and then he gave it to my sister. And she goes, what's this? And he goes, I saw it, I just thought you'd like it, because don't you like stuff like this? And she was like, yeah. Whatever.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Whatever.

• 10:48Drew Afualo?

  I know when men get it, you're like, okay.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  Alright, like, he's, he's in too deep now. Yeah, that's so funny.

• 10:53Drew Afualo?

  Fuck ever. It was like last year, she's done him for years.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Oh my god, and then like, yeah, like a blind box, like if there is just like, uh, if there's options, it's just, it's girl gambling, that's really all it is, it's just, it's girl gambling, it's like, it's just, it's fun, it's a mystery, it's exciting, the adrenaline, every time, I'm like, yeah, this like, this, this fits, I like it.

• 11:12Drew Afualo?

  I think it's cute too that you were like, it doesn't matter how old you are, you can still buy things that bring you joy.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, why do we have to act like, yeah, like, we can't just like stuff anymore, like, I have to, okay, like, let me get my briefcase and here I go. Like, like, please, like, can I just like, like a little Sunny Angels, I'm gonna kill somebody?

• 11:28Drew Afualo?

  You crack, you crack your briefcase, it's all Sunny Angels.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, literally, I'm like, whoa.

• 11:33Drew Afualo?

  All Skull Pandas inside, yeah, let me go through my files.

• 11:38Drew Afualo?

  Uh, do you have any goals, any goals that you wanna do, like, any things you wanna pursue, now that you're kinda leaning in full-time to social? Like, do you want sort of, like a podcast, you wanna act?

• 11:49Speaker 02

  I mean, I think it would be cool to have like some, some sort of little like cameo on like a little show or something, that'd be cool to have a little like side, you know, role, where they're like, wait, I've seen her, like, something cute like that.

• 11:59Drew Afualo?

  You would be so great.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  I would live, I think that'd be, that would be cool, um, I've like dabbled in that, the idea of like doing some sort of like acting kind of a thing.

• 12:07Drew Afualo?

  I think you would thrive.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  And.

• 12:08Drew Afualo?

  And you have an unclockable face. And I'm being so deadass, you have a beautiful gorgeous face.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  Oh my god, thank you so much.

• 12:14Drew Afualo?

  And that's half the battle.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, honestly, I know, seriously, yeah, yeah, but oh my god, thank you so much.

• 12:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  I'm one of those people, I'm like, I hate my side profile, so I'm always just like, so bad, like, literally so bad, and it's like this like, meme in my community, like, whatever, they'll like screenshot, they're like, oh, here we go, like, here's her side profile, like, and they'll like send it, I'm like, enough, enough, like, they know how much I hate it, and they're like, oof, this is not a good angle.

• 12:40Drew Afualo?

  I will say, when I started like doing this for a living, I had never looked at myself more, ever in my life, I like, and also like, I'm sure you could tell about me, I've had it, I've had an unbridled confidence for a long ass time, like, it's, I joke that I was well, I was like balls deep in body neutrality until I started doing this, like, I remember, When I first started dating my man, I started gaining weight. Obviously, he's a happy weight.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Well done, yeah.

• 13:05Drew Afualo?

  Who gives a fuck. And I had a belly button piercing at the time. And my belly button rings like weren't fitting anymore. And I was like, that's so weird.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  What's happening?

• 13:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and then I literally told my man, I was like, they just make them in different sizes, you know, like some are small, some are short, blah blah. That's not true.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  Really?

• 13:21Drew Afualo?

  That's not true at all. They're all the same size.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Oh, that just news to me.

• 13:25Drew Afualo?

  I just had a bigger belly, so they just weren't fitting.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  You're like, oh, okay. I thought that there was like the extra small, extra large versions like.

• 13:32Drew Afualo?

  Like, I didn't even consider the fact.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Consider the fact that maybe a few pounds could have been added on. Like, no, they're, no, this one's like, it's shrunk in the wash or something. I don't know.

• 13:40Drew Afualo?

  Something's definitely wrong with this one. It's defective. But once I started doing this for a living, I started, I started being, not even looking at myself. It was almost like how people would perceive me.

• 13:50Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:50Drew Afualo?

  Because to this day, I was just telling Trixie Mattel this, to this day, I still get compl- like, there's supposed to be compliments in person where they go, you're so much prettier in person. And I go, oh, right. Okay, right.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  So what did you mean by that? So let's break that down, actually. So when you say that.

• 14:08Drew Afualo?

  And I like, and it's like hearing it for, I'm not kidding, years. I've heard that for years. So now I'm like, you guys are starting to make me think I'm boof-ass ugly.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  Am I literally like, do, like, what do I look like on this camera to you people? Like, I'm actually scared. No. That's, that, any, oh, any sort of like backhanded thing like that? Oh, my God, like literally grinds my gears so bad.

• 14:29Drew Afualo?

  Get used to it. You're getting big. You're getting big now.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  I know, I know. I, I posted a video, I posted a video not too long ago about, there's this woman at my gym and she, every time she sees me, this is like the fourth time that she's done it, she's like, I know you probably hate your hair. I know you probably hate it. But I love it. She's like, no, I think it is so cute. It is so cute. I know you really probably hate it though.

• 14:54Drew Afualo?

  I know you hate that shit.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  I'm like, wait, I'm actually, this is like, I want my hair to look like this. I'm like, wait. Uh, and I'm like, oh.

• 15:01Drew Afualo?

  You're, I've actually never felt more confident about my hair.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Actually, wait, I really like it right now. I'm like, wait, should I shave it off again? Like, I don't know. So I'm like, oh. This is like, I'm not, this is like the third or fourth time she's done this. Like, I, I see her at like multiple times. Like, the first time it was like, your hair is so cute, your little curls. And then it like progressively got like more and more like, like now I feel like she's gonna be like, oh, your hair, I know you cannot fucking stand it. Like, I feel like it's just gonna get worse every time I see this woman.

• 15:28Drew Afualo?

  So here she comes, ugly haircut girl.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  I'm like, what the, what did I do? But it's, it's like, and I don't even know how to respond in that moment because she's so, she's genuinely so nice. Like, I really don't think she realizes like.

• 15:42Drew Afualo?

  Meaning to be rude.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  I'm like, you know what, girl? Yeah, I love my fuck ass haircut, I guess. You know, whatever. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

• 15:48Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love your haircut. But I, even recently, I, I got that when I was hosting, I was at The Grove, right? And I was like, uh, I hosted something with my friend Dylan Mulvaney. And then after I finished, I was walking around. And this lady came up to me, she's like, I fucking love you. She's like an older white woman. Fucking love you. Love yourself, walks away. And then my fiance goes, that lady was at the talk thing. And I go, oh, was she? Was she was like in the audience? He goes, no, she walked by while you were talking on the mic. And she like, they like roped it off. So she was outside the rope, right behind my fiance. And she goes, oh, I know that girl. That girl's on TikTok. She like makes fun of men. I love her. And then while she's watching, she goes, man, she looks better in person. And then she walks away.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  Like, will it ever end?

• 16:31Drew Afualo?

  Well, no. And I, when he tells me, I go, I wasn't even there and I got hit. Like, she, she fucking hit me and I wasn't even there.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  Literally, like, like behind the, like taking me out in the back of the barn behind the head. Like, like, oh my God, like, are you kidding me? I can't catch a break.

• 16:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I said, girl, let me get up.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Like, like, literally. Oh, my God, that's so funny. There was actually, this is so humbling, but genuinely one of the funniest comments like that I've ever seen. I did a Jubilee video a while back. And it was one of those like dating by like, it was like by body type kind of a thing.

• 17:01Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  And so we're, it's, we're literally like. Damn near in our underwear and it's like one of the ones where they pull the curtain up and stuff and um.

• 17:08Drew Afualo?

  Oh, like they look at your shoes first?

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 17:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I've seen those.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  So, um, at one point in the video, I say, this is still before my faces, like you, you, before you could see my face. And I say like in the video that like, oh, I dance, like I, you know, I dance at the club because they ask like what we do for a living.

• 17:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  And so I'm like scrolling through the video, it got like so many views. I'm like looking through the comments one day. I'm like, let me see what people are talking about. You know what I mean? And for the most part, everyone's being so nice. They're like, oh my God, all the girls are so sweet and amazing.

• 17:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Love this, this cast, such a cute group. There's one comment, it goes, where'd she dance at? The gas station?

• 17:43Drew Afualo?

  He said, oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  Right, and honestly.

• 17:45Drew Afualo?

  That got a kick to it, that has a little kick to it.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Literally, still to this day, I'm like, no, no, he like, that was so fucking funny.

• 17:51Drew Afualo?

  I had to lock my phone, that's enough of that.

• 17:52Speaker 02

  I was like, oh, so Jubilee, can we delete that fucking video? Like get it, the whole, like the whole thing, delete it now. Oh my God, but so funny, like.

• 18:00Drew Afualo?

  You know, it's a year, years ago, like when I was working nine to five.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:04Drew Afualo?

  I got called in to do a Jubilee video, like I, I, they asked for whatever. I sent something in, they asked me to come and my sister went with me. I skipped work that day ago. Went into the studio and I really felt, I was like, damn, this is crazy. I'd never been on a set like that or anything like that. And I was like, whoa, this is crazy. And then I do it and I forget, it was like, we were looking at people's Instagrams and then like, just basically coming up with what kind of person we thought they were.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 18:32Drew Afualo?

  Like describing what kind of person they would be in their head. And so they showed me like a few profiles and then eventually like you meet the person, like they bring up, and then we all meet and then we all talk about who we really are and see if we were right. On our assumptions. And I thought it was supposed to be funny. I did not think that it was like, this person looks kind, like I wasn't.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Oh, you were like kind of reading them a little bit.

• 18:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, but like in a funny way, I wasn't making fun of them.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, no, but like, yeah, like just like funny little like.

• 18:59Drew Afualo?

  I was like, well, I figured like that's why we're here, like it's personality driven, right? And I was cracking them bitches up, like they were all laughing at all the shit I was saying. And I, I remember one of the things I said was someone I was looking at, I was like, they look like they love, okay, clearly they love designer because they were like wearing designer in every picture. And I was like. But this kind of designer, it feels, it feels very consignment. It feels very, it feels

• 19:21Speaker 02

  Little secondhand.

• 19:22Drew Afualo?

  The ones in Palm Springs.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:24Drew Afualo?

  And they laughed really hard. And I remember that guy actually was, really did not like me because he didn't like that joke, because I guess he really did shop there all the time.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  I like actually took it personally, like, hey, I didn't know you were at the outlets like that. I mean, hey, I have not a clue.

• 19:38Drew Afualo?

  Not want to talk bad on your hobby.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:41Drew Afualo?

  But I, I thought the goal was to make people laugh. So I was like, kind of reading them all. I was cracking up. They never used the footage, like, not once. I hope it's gone forever because I'm sure I'm boof ugly.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  Deleted. And then everyone, my god, she looks so much better in person.

• 19:55Drew Afualo?

  That one I would get. That one I'd be like, you're right. I do, I don't photograph well.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 20:00Drew Afualo?

  But I did do a lost archives of Jubilee.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 20:03Drew Afualo?

  Look at us, we're two Jubilee girls.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  I know. I love, kind of love that.

• 20:06Drew Afualo?

  And I'm also reading here that you're a Virgo.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  I am a Virgo, yeah.

• 20:09Drew Afualo?

  So am I.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Are you really?

• 20:10Drew Afualo?

  Yes. When's your birthday?

• 20:11Speaker 02

  I'm August 25th.

• 20:12Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I'm, that's actually my anniversary.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 20:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, our baby.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Wee.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Oh, my god. Wait, that's so cute. I love that for you guys. Okay, fine. Okay, wait, that's my cousin's birthday. I'm like, okay, wait.

• 20:30Drew Afualo?

  Me.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're my cousin.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Oh, my god. Fun.

• 20:37Drew Afualo?

  That is so, look at us, two Virgos. That's why you're so fucking funny. But I do have some fun facts about you.

• 20:42Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 20:43Drew Afualo?

  Let's talk about it. On here, it says you have a tabby cat named Chai and another cat named Miso.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 20:48Drew Afualo?

  Which I did, I did actually knew you had two cats. When'd you get them?

• 20:51Speaker 02

  Okay, so Chai, I got her, she's seven now. So, um, before I lived out here, I lived in Boston, and literally like three days before I moved like out of my like parents' house to Boston, I was like, I need a cat. I don't know, that's like probably the worst timing. Like, why would I decide anyway? So I'm like, all right, I need a, I need a companion. You know what I mean?

• 21:12Drew Afualo?

  An animal.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. So I was, you know, on Snapchat one day and a friend of mine posted a little kitten. And I was like, oh, my god, who's cat? And he was like, mine. I'm like, well, where did you get this cat? He was like, my weed dealer. I said, oh, like, are there more? Can I, can I go like pick one up?

• 21:30Drew Afualo?

  A plug of multiple things.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. So I was like. Well, I need one like he was like, yeah, hit him up. So literally it was like, yeah, like a transaction of sorts where I would just was like, hey, I'm here for the cat. He was like, all right, yeah, yeah. And he like took me inside. He took me inside, um, like literal trap house, by the way. And so he's like, yeah, we just need to like, find them. I'm like,

• 21:52Speaker 02

  They're like, they're like seven or eight weeks old. They're like babies. He's like, they should be in here. He's like, they're probably here somewhere. So I'm like, okay, you think they would like be in a contained space with a mother or something? I don't know. So I'm like, hey, you know, I'm not going to tell you how to like raise your cats, whatever. So I'm like, okay. So he like goes in like a completely different room. I'm just, I'm in the kitchen at this point. I'm standing in the kitchen and I see a cat. Walk out, but it was very, it was the mom. It was not one of the babies. I was like, okay, well, there's the mom, I think. And then like two seconds later, a little baby like starts meowing and walks out from behind the fridge. And I was like, oh, wait, there's one in here. I was like, wait, here's one. And then they like came back and they were like, oh, you have that one.

• 22:33Speaker 02

  I was like, oh, okay. I was like, I really wanted a girl cat too, because I grew up with boy cats and I was like, I want a girl cat, like, you know? I wanted, I need a daughter. So I was just like, oh, is it a boy or a girl? And then they picked her up and they were like, I think it's a girl. I was just like, okay, sure. Easy. Works for me. And um, so I took her home and she's been like literally the best. She's like literally the best cat ever. And um, she's such an angel. Yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, I can't really say, no, I'm kidding. Love him, but he is, He is a character. He's just, he's, it's like, you get one and they're like the best, like they don't do anything bad. And then you're like, I need another one. And the second one is always just like the literal spawn of Satan. I'm just like, okay. Um, he's so funny though. He's just like so bizarre. Like all my friends are just like, he's just, he's so fucking weird. Like, he's just like in the corner, like, Like he's just so strange and I can't even like his mannerisms and just the stuff that he does. He's just a weird little guy. And when he was younger, he's kind of growing out of it now because he's probably like two or three ish now. He was so bad. He would get into everything, like things that were like unfathomable, like that Chi would never even think about like

• 23:44Speaker 02

  he trying to bite or like ruining. I'm like, what? Like it was honestly like, respect the creativity, bro. Like I really, I'm like, okay. What happens when you let men in the house? Yeah, yes, I know. I'm like, everything. Yeah, so it's like the cats aren't even safe. And like you're gonna come in here with this masculine energy and I don't know, like, bro, I don't know if you could stay here much longer. But I love him. He's hilarious. He is, but he's just like, yeah, weird little guy. How'd you get him? Just adopt him from another friend? That's my house's weed dealer. I, um, I was just like looking around at, um, adoption centers like around here. Cause at this point, this was when I was in LA and, uh, I was just like looking, I went to like two or three different adoption centers and I was like, okay, you know?

• 24:28Speaker 02

  And then I went to this one last one. I was like, let me just try this one before I go home. And I wasn't like set on going home with a cat that day, but I was like, I mean, I just want to like see what they got, you know, it wouldn't hurt. And it was called like heaven on earth, something like that. And, uh, they had, they had a lot of cats. And they were like, oh, we usually do buy appointment only, only, but it was like kind of dead that day. Yeah. So they're like, it just come in, like, you know, come look around. And they were like, we just got these three guys in and they were, they were babies. Not as small as Chi was when I got her, but still tiny. And it was the three of them. They were brothers. She was like, yes, somebody just found them like on the street and brought them here and you know, we got them fixed and they're all good. They're like ready to go. And, um, immediately out of the three of them, I was like, oh, he's really cute. Like I just was like drawn to him. I was like, oh, he's adorable. Yeah.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  And so I was like holding him for a little bit and they were like, oh, you want to like look around, look at the other cats? I'm like, yeah. So I do a little lap and then I was like, let me go, I want to go back and look at that one again. As I go back into that room, there are, there's a couple of these two guys and they are like literally, this is only like within 10 minutes, by the way. Like they're like signing the paperwork for, I'm like.

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• 27:07Speaker 02

  Like, who are they taking? Who are they taking? Not him, please. And then they were taking the other two, but not the one that... Aww. Not my son. I was like, wait, no. I was like, wait, no. I can't leave him here by himself now. I was like, no, I have to take him. So honestly, it all worked out so perfectly. They're like, that one's fucking weird. They were like, yeah. Like, wait, he's... Look at him. He's fucking weird. Leave that one in there. And then literally, I'm like, I guess I was the only one that I didn't see that. Like, everyone else, like, could tell that he was a fucking weirdo, but me. But I was like, aww. So, yeah, so I took him and, yeah. Love that guy.

• 27:38Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny? I have two Frenchies. And the first one, his name is Squid, and my other one's name is Tuna.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  Oh, love.

• 27:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so, and Squid was my first baby that we got. My man got him for me for... Like our anniversary, cause I, when we moved into a new home, I really wanted an animal. Especially working from home all the time and he was working still as a trainer at the time. So I was always by myself at home and I was like, this sucks. It's so sad in this fucking house.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Like nothing to do.

• 28:04Drew Afualo?

  Not my man. I need something else. I need, I need an animal. So he adopted um our Frenchy squid, but he got him from a friend. And that, that, well, I use the term friend loosely.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:17Drew Afualo?

  He knew him.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:18Drew Afualo?

  Um but he was that guy's also on, on drugs. So.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:22Drew Afualo?

  Look at that. Some of the best animals.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  Come from just like maybe not so great. Yeah, like maybe just like just some not so great circumstances.

• 28:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I adopted when we got him, um after he got older, we were like, he actually got super, super energetic. Cause like Frenchies have so much energy.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, they do.

• 28:40Drew Afualo?

  And so I always say Frenchies, if you have a lot of time and money, they're great dogs.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  Oh, awesome. Yeah, no, literally.

• 28:46Drew Afualo?

  If you don't have time or money, don't get them.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  Please do not. Yeah. My best friend has one too, and that's like agreed.

• 28:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and, and they work better in du- in duos because they have so much energy. So I was like, I need to get him a friend. Because the window is closing to where I become that person with that dog. That's like too much. Because he was always the best boy. Like he's so sweet. He never barks. He never attacks. He just has too much.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Energy. He just like can't even contain it. And they can't even help it too. It's so funny. Or like, like, oh my god, literally when I go to my friend's house, I'm like, her Frenchy, like, you would think that I am like Jesus Christ standing right in front of her. That's how excited she gets just to see somebody that's like not her mom. I'm like, oh my god.

• 29:26Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I know.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Just for no reason. Like every single time.

• 29:29Drew Afualo?

  No reason.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  And I love it though, but yeah, they do have a lot of energy.

• 29:32Drew Afualo?

  They have so, he has so much. And I, we even got him trained. Like we trained him, we trained him up to a certain point and then he stopped listening to me. He's like getting parent deaf.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  He's like, wait, I actually don't have to do any of this shit. Like he just realized.

• 29:43Drew Afualo?

  I'm actually realizing I never have to listen.

• 29:45Speaker 02

  He like became self-aware in that moment. He's like, fuck.

• 29:48Drew Afualo?

  And it's funny because at one point, my mom was dog sitting for me and my mom goes, I think he's deaf. And I go, really? And she goes, yeah, cuz and I go, oh, no, girl, he just doesn't listen. No, he just don't give a fuck. Like, he literally, that's him ignoring you. Yeah, he really just doesn't care. Which is ironic because when we got a new one, my, my, like, when we fostered the other one, it's because he was being rehomed because his owner got a new job and he was like, I'm too busy, I can't watch him. Um, and he's completely deaf. Oh, really? Yeah, which we wasn't on the application. Didn't know that. He did not tell me that till I was in person. Oh. But I remember when I looked at the pictures, I was like, some, something about this dog is speaking to me. Mm-hmm. Even though the pictures were awful because they were taken by a single man. Yeah. You know, men don't know how to take pictures of shit, but especially not a dog.

• 30:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Like, the, the pictures were like a hundred yards away. Horrible angles, blurry. Really, I was like, and I would, I was showing those profile pictures, like, I was like, look, and I'm gonna go see this dog today. And my whole family was like, oh. Oh. Even my man was like, are you sure? And I was like, let's just go see him in person. He's way cuter in person. That's when we could say, he looked way better. You're like, oh, no, he looked way, oh, my god, he looks way better in person. I'm gonna write a hate comment on him. You look so much better in person. Yeah, you're like, oh. Well, then it turns out he is my son, right? Because we're both fuggos on the internet, but really good looking in person, apparently. Oh, my god. But then when we talked to him about it, he was like, also, I think he might be deaf. I go, think? Think.

• 31:15Drew Afualo?

  And he was like, well, yeah, I just haven't gotten, gotten him tested because I guess the hearing test is like four hundred dollars. And the answer is, it's just yes or no. It's just like, yeah, no, he can't hear shit. Yeah. Okay, thanks. And he's like, I kinda didn't want to pay for it. And I was like, I don't blame you, that is crazy. That's real, yeah. And I was, because it's not affecting his quality of life at all, like, he can still run and walk and everything normally. So when I fostered him, I took him to my vet to like, have him like, checked out and stuff. And I said the same thing, I'm like, they said he, they think he might be deaf. And then his doctor was like, Alright, and then he was like, can you hold this? And he gave me this big giant tin. Of like treats and I was like, yeah. And then he goes, he turned my dog around and he goes, just drop it on the ground.

• 31:57Drew Afualo?

  And so I did and he didn't flinch, not even a little. And my other dog was in the room and was immediately like, and then we heard barking back there and he goes, Yeah, he's deaf. And I go, imagine that was the test. It was four hundred dollars.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Literally, no, that's genuinely, like they're like, alright, we'll be right back with him. They take him back. Yeah, they do. They're like, alright, drop it. Yeah. Like literally, that's exact, alright, yeah. It's just four hundred dollars.

• 32:17Drew Afualo?

  They take him back and they just scream in his ear. He's deaf alright.

• 32:23Speaker 02

  No, that's honestly like the easiest way to do it, I mean.

• 32:25Drew Afualo?

  So, I mean, and now I know for sure, which is funny because recently I took him to the hospital because he was not feeling well and I was panicking. And when I took him, I was like, I just have to tell you guys, he is deaf. So like, and they were like, oh, good to know. And when they brought him back out to me, he's fine. He ate, he ate a fucking berry from the backyard and spit it out of his butt the other day.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  Oh no.

• 32:47Drew Afualo?

  He's healed now.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  Okay, he's good.

• 32:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, charged me a fuck ton of money, but yeah, he's good now. Hey, thank God. Dropped a couple racks, thank God.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  Thanks, yeah. No more berries for you.

• 32:57Drew Afualo?

  And when he came out, you would have thought, my dogs love the vet, because they go and they get a lot of attention and treats. So when she walked him out, it was like he was on a victory tour, like he was just stopping at every nurse.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, literally like, hey.

• 33:11Drew Afualo?

  Stops at every nurse, they're all, bye tuna, bye.

• 33:17Drew Afualo?

  Like, okay. But so I get it, having two, one bad, one good.

• 33:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:21Drew Afualo?

  I feel that, honestly. Uh, it says on here that you rose to fame for Twitch streams and YouTube videos, playing tons of video games from Roblox to Dress to Impress to horror games.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:31Drew Afualo?

  You are a gamer girl.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, very much gamer girl. Um, like, okay, Roblox as far as just like literal mindless, like just so stupid, but like so much fun. Like when you, you don't even have to like use your brain to play, like it's so much fun.

• 33:46Drew Afualo?

  I've never played Roblox.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  Oh my God, you've gotta get on there, girl. Dress, you, Dress to Impress is a good place to start.

• 33:51Drew Afualo?

  I do love Dress to Impress.

• 33:52Speaker 02

  So fun, yeah. I'm like so fun, lovely good Dress to Impress, but um, yeah, other than. There's just like all these little like lobbies, people are like talking to each other and stuff and there's, there's like a, there's one called Cake Off. It's like the cake version of Dress to Impress. We have to like make a cake in like five minutes and it's like there's themes. I'm like, can put in the icing on. And like, I love that. But um, I also really like storyline games because I'm not really like a movie person and I, I hate that I'm not because I, I feel left out all the time. Like everyone's like, oh my god, did you see, I'm like, no.

• 34:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too. I never watch anything new.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I really haven't seen like, even like old stuff that everyone's seen. I'm like, had, never found the time to do that one. So I don't know, like, um.

• 34:34Drew Afualo?

  And I don't care to.

• 34:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, and that's really it.

• 34:36Drew Afualo?

  Like some super famous movies like Godfather, I'm like.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  I'm like, yeah, no, literally same. I'm like, uh, I, yeah, I mean, I kinda like.

• 34:45Drew Afualo?

  I believe you.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I believe, I, yeah, I believe you. I bet it's good. I bet it's, there's a lot of guys in it, some people shooting guns. I don't know. Sounds good. Yeah, cool. So that's kinda, yeah, I'm like the same thing. So I would rather just, yeah, I'd rather play it because I'm like, okay, it's like, gives me something to do. Um, also probably like some sort of undiagnosed ADHD going on or something where I'm just like, I feel like I need to be like doing something constantly, but I love a good storyline game because um, yeah, you're like, you're like, feel like you're in it. I'm like, this is fun. I love that. And like horror games too. That's like, only more recently did I start to get into horror games. Cause fun fact, when I was younger, I was like petrified of anything like horror, horror movies like.

• 35:24Drew Afualo?

  You're so me. Me too.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  I was like, it was also just, I grew up in a Catholic household and it was more of like the, like the fear of God like instilled in you. And I'm like, oh my god, he's watching me. Like all the ti- I just was like super scared of just like anything like surrounding like just. Anything that would be typically like evil or scary. I was like, oh, no, no, no. Oh, fuck no. Like my friends actually, when I was in middle school or whenever the movie came out, I'm pretty sure it was like m- middle school or early high school, whenever um, Insidious came out.

• 35:53Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, yeah.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Um, I had literally never seen a scary movie like in my life and my friends convinced me we were at the, cause like the movie theater like inside of the mall, like kind of a thing.

• 36:02Drew Afualo?

  When you're all hanging out.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, they were like, let's go see a movie. I'm like, okay, yeah. So we're like looking at like the post. Whatever. They're like, let's go see this one. And it's insidious. I'm like, what is that? Like, what are they? What's it about? They're like, oh, it's just, it's like about a boy and his family.

• 36:16Speaker 02

  It's like, literally, it was like a house and like a creepy boy like, and I'm like, he looks kind of fucking weird. I don't know. I was like, okay, yeah, let's go, whatever. So we like, go see the movie. And, um, literally within the first like 10 minutes, I'm like, there's like, so like a warning where it's just like, this movie is like, causing like paranormal or just something like where they could try to freak you out in the beginning with like the, the text or whatever. I was like, wait, guys, wait. I was like, wait, no, no, I didn't sign up for this. And I was like, literally crying the entire time. And they weren't, they thought it was hilarious. I'm like, that's, still to this day, traumatic for me. But, um, yeah, now I'm like, I, I love, I don't know what happened, but I'm like, I love horror games now. I think they're so much fun.

• 36:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I don't, maybe it's a Virgo thing. I was the same way. I was very afraid of everything scary. And I didn't really like anything. Like, I didn't want to pursue it at the same time. I think like, as I got older, I sometimes would get tricked into it, or my friends would be like, I, we're just gonna put it on. And then, and then everyone would fall asleep and I'd be the only one watching.

• 37:18Drew Afualo?

  I remember when I saw Hereditary, when that came out in theaters, I saw it in theaters, but that's my stupid sister's fault. Cause she was like, we should go watch this movie together. It's supposed to be really good. And I was like, well, is it scary scary? Or is it just like, whatever scary? She's like, no, it's like a thriller.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. She, she's like, it's eight twenty-four.

• 37:36Drew Afualo?

  No, it's like a thriller. I was so fucked up over that movie.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Okay, no.

• 37:41Drew Afualo?

  It's like stayed with me.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I actually was just talking about that movie recently with some of my friends, because they were like, doing like a rerun of it. At some theater and they went to go see it. And they were like, that movie is like fucked up. I was like, yeah, it really is. You seen, uh, Midsommar? Have you seen that?

• 37:56Drew Afualo?

  I've never seen that.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  Okay, that will fuck you up a little bit.

• 37:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, because after I watched Hereditary, I know Midsommar came out right after that. And when that came out, my sister was like, oh, I think I'm gonna go see. I was like, I'm not listening to, fuck you. I'm not listening to.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  That's how I, yeah, I'm like, because I, the thing with like the eight twenty-four, I'm like, there's some of them that are like quirky Q. And then when they like, then they go down the road where I'm like, okay, it's like the point of no return. No, no, no. This is like, this is dark sided. This is dark sided.

• 38:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that was one of those that I had to watch like a bunch of happy stuff when I got home to like cleanse my brain.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  Baby fucking fruit sensory video. Like, you're just like, I can't.

• 38:28Drew Afualo?

  Miss Rachel. I'm gonna ask her to help me. Okay, it says right here. That last year you'd been thinking of quitting your job as a dancer and then got a video that the club you worked out was burning down? You're all, the universe works in mysterious ways.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Rest in peace. Actually, that was like genuinely probably one of the craziest things ever because that's like literally not, like that's not made up. Like the club burnt down, like burnt to the ground. So basically, yeah, so I was like, kinda like, oh yeah, no, you're fine.

• 38:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I know, huh? Two o'clock on the money.

• 39:03Drew Afualo?

  For real? Crime, crime time.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I was kinda like one foot in, one foot out with like the streaming because I was like, you know, it was cute and I was making a little bit of money, but not enough for me to be like, done dancing, hanging up the boots. But um, I was, you know, trying to get to that point, but I wasn't like, I was just kinda scared to like fully commit. So I was working, but I was not working as much as I was at one point. And I was just like, oh man, I don't know. Like I've been dancing for like six years at this point, so I was kinda like eh, you know, kinda like ready to be done with it.

• 39:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  And I literally call my, my best friend at the club. I'm like, yeah, are you gonna go to work tonight? I think I'm gonna go tonight. It's probably like noon. Like I like just woke up not that long ago. I'm like, are you gonna work tonight? She's like, no, you haven't heard. I was like, heard what? She's like, the club burned down. I'm like, wait, what do you mean? And we would always, the funniest thing, we would always joke. We would literally be like, oh, we're gonna fuck it. Like fuck this place. Let's just set it on fire. Like as a joke? Like we would, that was like a little like running shit that we had, like, oh my god, we're gonna burn this fucking place down. I'm like, wait, which one of you bitches did it for real? Like, so um, yeah, so she's sending me videos on Instagram of people like recording, like there's like, it's on like news, like out, you know, like little outlet videos of the club legitimately on fire. And I'm like, oh, and it was in this like um,

• 40:22Speaker 02

  almost like a strip mall kind of a thing, which is also like funny for a strip club to just, it's like, you know, the subway, fucking taco spot, strip club. Like it's, I kinda love that though. But the whole, like all of the businesses like burnt down to the ground. So it wasn't like just the club, which was like unfortunate for like others, other people's businesses and stuff. But um, yeah, so I was joking and like, oh my god, I bet you somebody, some like crazy ex-boyfriend or something. And that actually genuinely ended up being what happened. So apparently some, this girl that worked there, her- Ex or her man or something, he went there at like five in the mornings, closed. Um, and threw a Molotov in there. Yeah.

• 40:58Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Burnt the whole thing down. Yeah. Burnt like gone. And so I was like, oh, well, definitely not gonna go to work tonight.

• 41:05Drew Afualo?

  Oh, so no work tonight?

• 41:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, so I'm just like, literally just like ashes around me. I'm just like the pole, still with the pole, like survive. Literally, I'm just like, come on, guys, like.

• 41:14Drew Afualo?

  Imagine if the pole still was up, I bet they'd still be like, you guys can still dance.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  It's actually like, the strip club doesn't close for anything. When I first started working and I was, I was dancing in Boston. Oh my God, they only closed on, weirdly enough, Fourth of July. Okay.

• 41:32Drew Afualo?

  Cause the guys who frequent the strip club love that fucking holiday.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  No, literally. And the owners, it's just like every white guy ever. So I'm like, okay, I guess. Didn't close for Christmas, like any other big holiday. They closed for Fourth of July and then they, they would do, um, there was a party once a year, like a holiday party. And they would close that night for the holiday party. That was it, right? Nothing else. So, and there was like really bad snowstorms in Boston too. And the way that that club worked is you were on like a schedule. You would, you would pick the days that you'd wanna go like two weeks before. And you would have to like commit to that schedule. And if you couldn't get somebody to cover your shift, you would have to like have another girl cover your shift. And what we would do, this is actually so bizarre, cause this, like, that was my first club that I ever worked at. So I didn't know that other clubs like weren't run this way. Most clubs like could give two fucks if you show up or not.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Like regardless, there's gonna be girls that'll come work and like, it's fine.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  But the, like, if you didn't get someone to cover your shift, that you would get like in trouble. So we would like offer mon- like a hundred dollars, take my shift. So I'm like, why am I paying somebody to like, to not work? Like, yeah, so like, you know, people would like have to take other girls' shifts and, you know, and then if somebody wouldn't do it, they'd be like, all right, two hundred dollars, somebody take my shift. The bids would go up.

• 42:43Drew Afualo?

  That's how bad I don't wanna work is.

• 42:45Speaker 02

  The bids would go up. It was just very bizarre. So I remember the New Year's Day, um, the club was open. And this is when I was kind of like a newbie. So they were like, you have to work New Year's Day, cause nobody else wants to. I was like, okay, fine. So it was me and like six other girls. And it was such a bad snowstorm. It was freezing. The heat goes out at the club, okay? I'm not even joking. The top of the pole was like frosted. That's how cold it was in there. And we're literally in fucking lingerie, just like freezing our asses off. To the point where there was like three customers, but our boss was like, you guys could like wear your coats if you want. I'm like.

• 43:19Drew Afualo?

  Hey, what's the point?

• 43:20Speaker 02

  I'm like, hey, so I'm in a North Face and stripper heels right now. Like, what the fuck? This looks insane. And he, like, literally, we were, like, walking around in, like, full-blown winter coats and heels. And I'm like-

• 43:29Drew Afualo?

  You're wearing a pea coat?

• 43:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. I look like a, like a flasher, literally. I'm just like, ugh, like, it was so, I'm like, this is just, hey, let's close. They, like, sent somebody to, like, Walmart to go get space heaters. I'm like, how about we just wrap it up for the night?

• 43:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  Like, there's three people here.

• 43:45Drew Afualo?

  What if we didn't do this?

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, crazy idea. But let's just go the fuck home. But it's so bizarre. I'm like, what the hell? Like, and you're not even missing out on money, because there's, like, there's nobody here.

• 43:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's so dead, regardless.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it was so, so weird.

• 43:59Drew Afualo?

  That's so funny. I-

• 44:00Speaker 02

  They don't close for anything.

• 44:01Drew Afualo?

  My first and last time going to a strip club, well, I will say, that wasn't my first, first time, but it was my first time, like, really having a strip club experience. It was in Vegas, and it was like a-

• 44:12Speaker 02

  God bless you. Clubs out there are crazy.

• 44:14Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl. And it was like a two-story one, so it was like, girls were on the bottom, men around the top. And like, the energy with the girls on the bottom was so weird and creepy. Like, it was a bunch of men, obviously. It was like a Friday night, so it was pretty packed. But it's just so quiet. Like, the way they were watching was just so, like-

• 44:34Speaker 02

  It's very menacing.

• 44:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. It feels very like, uh, Batman villain energy.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:40Drew Afualo?

  And they all looked like the Penguin, so there's that too. Like, all the men in there.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  They literally looked like crawled out of their mom's basement. So sorry about that. It's very true.

• 44:50Drew Afualo?

  The dancers were stunning and gorgeous and so talented, but it's just the men watching.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  They're just, like, literally, like, shriveled up.

• 44:56Drew Afualo?

  And they just watched, like-

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:58Drew Afualo?

  And there's just, like, nothing weirder to me than going and getting bricked up with your homies and then separating. Like, what's the point?

• 45:04Speaker 02

  But you want to know what's even worse? Is when they go, this, this is also a phenomenon, too. They go get bricked up together, and then they're like, but, oh, you know, I can't leave him, though. I can't. Like, they, they're like, they don't want to, like, go, like, leave him to go do a private dance. They're like, well, is, are you gonna be, like, are you gonna be good if I go?

• 45:19Speaker 02

  It's fi- like it's five minutes tops.

• 45:21Drew Afualo?

  You guys are fine.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  You'll be totally fine. He could like, he'll be able to navigate without himself, like without you. He's okay. Like so bizarre. That's also like another phenomenon. Usually it's when guys come in like groups of like three or more.

• 45:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 02

  It's like, yeah, that's kind of how it is. But also too, when it's just two guys coming together, I'm like, oh, so you guys want to kiss each other? Like, oh, I'm like, oh, okay. So you guys want to get horny and kiss? Yeah, I'm like, okay, that's cute. Like, let's do it. Like, fuck it, who cares?

• 45:47Drew Afualo?

  There's something so weird about it.

• 45:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:49Drew Afualo?

  And I went upstairs to the, where the male dancers are. And when I was up there, like, the energy's way more fun.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:56Drew Afualo?

  Women are fun and women are having fun. But like, male strip, like, I described my experience in a male strip club as like a haunted house. Just around every corner.

• 46:07Drew Afualo?

  And just like nothing but fear and dread following me the whole time. I feel like I'm being chased.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  God, literally. That, I've actually never been to a, a male strip club.

• 46:14Drew Afualo?

  It's awful. I don't recommend it. In fact, well, I do recommend it if you take a really good group of friends and you're just trying to have a good ass night. Like, but I remember my, my mom was there and she, of course she was, and she got, she like paid for like a dance for me because it was my 21st birthday weekend. And like, I, it was like on the stage, like, so like.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  They like bring you up there?

• 46:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and it's just all the worst things. Like, I do love attention, not that kind.

• 46:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I know. Okay. So what do they make you do?

• 46:44Drew Afualo?

  Uh, well, they just had me sit on the chair at first and they brought me up on stage and it was like this big ass white dude, which I will say, every other male stripper in there was really short, like, because I'm tall. I'm a tall, thick girl, so I'm, I'm six feet tall. Every stripper in there was probably like five eight.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, you were like, come on, bring me some, some meat.

• 47:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 47:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I need like, I need a little something.

• 47:03Drew Afualo?

  I like a little something on my man.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  Right, like, come on.

• 47:06Drew Afualo?

  And everyone was so small. And I remember a lot of their chests were shaved too. And the only reason I knew that is because they kept rubbing on me and it was giving me like rug burn.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, like the, oh, God, yeah.

• 47:15Drew Afualo?

  Hey, hey, hey, queen. I was like, you're giving me like razor burn.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:20Drew Afualo?

  And I remember when I went on the stage, I was like, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Cause I went up, but the dude was like six, five, like, which I thought was unheard of for a stripper. I was like, a tall, beefy white dude, like, good looking dude too. He came up and he was dancing to, you guessed it, Work From Home by Fifth Harmony.

• 47:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 47:39Drew Afualo?

  Now that's awful for another reason. Now every time I hear it, that's what I, I think of this night.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  PTSD in that moment.

• 47:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I just go back to this night. Like, I'm like, And like, he's dressed as a construction worker, given the theme. And he's kind of just dancing around me at first. And it's all gyrating and grinding on me, whatever.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:56Drew Afualo?

  At one point, though, he like, obviously, like, if I'm sitting like this, he's like, over my shit.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:00Drew Afualo?

  And because he's so tall, his dick's in my face.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  In your mouth.

• 48:03Drew Afualo?

  Which I'm like, it's rubbing my nose like this.

• 48:08Drew Afualo?

  I'm being nudged by it.

• 48:13Drew Afualo?

  Like, my lashes are so big at the time, they're brushing it. That's the type of shit I was on at the time. And then I remember at one point, he was like, first of all, while he's doing this, everyone's cheering, he's like, making normal conversation with me. And he's like, where are you from? That's interesting.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  Come here often? Yeah, yeah. How do you like Vegas?

• 48:36Drew Afualo?

  But he's like, actually trying to get to know me, like, he was like, what are you studying? What do you hope to do with that? Hey, buddy, now's not the time.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, like.

• 48:42Drew Afualo?

  And then at one point, he goes, this is the worst part of the whole night, but he goes, he's like, stand up, and he like, grabs my hands, makes me stand up, and I'm in like, a slutty little dress and heels, right?

• 48:53Speaker 02

  As you should.

• 48:54Drew Afualo?

  And then he's like, dancing, turns around, he like, bends over, he's like, dancing, whatever. I was like, oh, I'm doing the bending, okay.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 48:59Drew Afualo?

  Right? Oh!

• 49:01Speaker 02

  This is new? Yeah, you're like, oh!

• 49:03Drew Afualo?

  First time for everything. I might be into this.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Like, awaken something, and you're like, wait a second, actually.

• 49:09Drew Afualo?

  And when he like, he's like, doing all that, then he turns around and he looks at me, and then he said, he said, are you afraid of heights or something like that? I think it was supposed to be a joke. And I go, no, not particularly. And then he bends down, grabs me around both legs, stands back up, twists me like the arms of a clock, bitch. I, when I tell you I'm upside down, upside down, my legs like this.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Like, face down, like, like.

• 49:36Drew Afualo?

  And as, and listen, as a big girl, the fear I feel being picked up, like, as a big girl.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, where?

• 49:42Drew Afualo?

  The last thing I need is for you to try and be like, you know what I mean? If I hear that, I'm getting mad.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  If I even hear one grunt, oh my god, if you even struggle a little bit.

• 49:50Drew Afualo?

  You better not strain yourself.

• 49:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, put me the fuck down. You're not gonna embarrass me today on my birthday.

• 49:55Drew Afualo?

  On my birthday?

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Of all days?

• 49:59Drew Afualo?

  He flips me around, and then he's like, holding, like, at this point, we're like, sixty-nining, yeah? He's holding me, and he's like, and the worst part is, he's holding me like this, and he starts going like this.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  Like, why?

• 50:11Drew Afualo?

  Why would you do that?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  To me of all people.

• 50:16Drew Afualo?

  To me?

• 50:17Speaker 02

  You would really, like.

• 50:19Drew Afualo?

  I'm literally sweating, like, think, reliving it. I'm sweating, reliving it, because I'm so panicked.

• 50:24Speaker 02

  The shaky, and then just imagining your head dangling like this. Going, like, everything you see is upside down, like, everyone in the crowd's upside down.

• 50:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I'm looking between his legs at everyone else going, and I, at one point when he, he spun around, while he's still holding me in the sixty-nine position, he spun around, and then at that point, he was facing the other way, and then through his legs, I could see my sister and my mom, and both of them laughing.

• 50:53Drew Afualo?

  And then my sister said, "That's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life." Like, she was like, that's like a core memory for her now.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 51:01Drew Afualo?

  See, the core memory, the little ball in Inside Out, it's like yellow for her, and for me, it's, it's fucking red. It's red, it's blue sadness.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. My god, that is, wow. Okay, well, now, if, if I was, like, not convinced enough to never go to a male strip club, now I definitely am.

• 51:19Drew Afualo?

  I know, because now when I see the Magic Mike experience and stuff, I'm curious to know if it's similar horror to that.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:25Drew Afualo?

  I'm not trying to find out.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  You're like, hmm, it's so, it's so funny, too, how different, like, the male versus, like, women.

• 51:32Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  It's just two completely different, like, industries and worlds, and like you said, it's literally just like the hermit guys, like, just like, hunched over and like, you know what I mean?

• 51:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, being weird.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  I mean, not all the time, like, that's also another thing, too, a lot of times when guys will come in and they're like, decently, like, they look okay, you know what I mean? It's like, you're just like a normal fucking looking guy.

• 51:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  They're like, "You probably don't get to dance with guys that look like me all the time, do ya? Probably, like, makes your day a little bit better." I'm like, "Oh, shut the fuck up." I'm just like, "Bro, I don't give a fuck, literally, who is in this chair right now behind me."

• 52:01Drew Afualo?

  No, for real.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Please, don't read your pain, bro.

• 52:03Drew Afualo?

  Believe it or not, I'm not really looking at faces most times.

• 52:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, "Actually, I'm not here, I'm not looking for love, like, I'm not really, I mean, like, this, yeah, bro, I'm at work right now, like, it's really not that serious."

• 52:11Drew Afualo?

  I know, one of my friends, or I have a few friends who have danced before, and they've told me, like, one of the most annoying ones they would get would be like, "I could take you away from all this."

• 52:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, yeah.

• 52:20Drew Afualo?

  "Let me take you away, let me save you."

• 52:22Speaker 02

  Literally, like, "Oh, girl, like, yeah, come with me, you don't have to do this anymore." Like, yeah, one that kills me, too, it's also just like, "You're too pretty to do this." Bitch, that's why I'm here. What the hell are you talking about?

• 52:33Drew Afualo?

  That's the whole job.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  That's the whole job. That's literally, I'm like, so you're telling me you paid the cover fee because you wanted to come in here and see ugly bitches? Like, what do you mean by that? Like, like, bro, you stop acting like, oh my god.

• 52:43Drew Afualo?

  Relax, knock it off.

• 52:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's like, honestly, I feel like I'm kind of like having a full circle moment now. Where now that I'm like, okay, doing my little content and shit and like making a little coin. I'm like, okay, I want to go to the club and be that guy. Be like, baby, I could take you out of here. For real.

• 52:58Drew Afualo?

  Girl, actually, they may have been on to some.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  I could take you away from all that. I just want to cosplay that. Like, just, I just need to feel what that's like to be on the other end, you know what I mean?

• 53:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, to play a big baller.

• 53:09Drew Afualo?

  Uh, it says that you had a podcast called Vacancy at Vanilla's. You have one currently, and you said you want to revisit it?

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I like took a little bit of a break. I've been on a break for, for, from the podcast. Sorry, I've been on a break from the podcast for a few months because, uh, I wanted to kind of, huh?

• 53:26Drew Afualo?

  Oh, the fucking sirens. It's always two, two. Like, not two o'clock, but I mean, two rounds of driving.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  There and back.

• 53:39Speaker 00

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• 54:11Speaker 05

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market. Love the crown molding. Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile. Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet? No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen. No FiOS? Yeah, no, thank you. Don't you want to see the rest? Okay, bye-bye.

• 54:36Speaker 06

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• 54:43Speaker 07

  It says it's crime time.

• 54:45Drew Afualo?

  It's crime time.

• 54:49Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, so I I'm taking a little bit break from it for uh right now, but uh I wanna possibly revisit it. I think it's fun. Like, don't get me wrong. I love the podcast cuz it's just like a little yap session like by myself.

• 55:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 55:03Speaker 02

  Um, but I've been trying to do like, yeah, more vlogs and stuff lately, but the podcast is is really fun because, yeah, I literally just feel like I'm just like on FaceTime with somebody. Like, I'm just sitting there kinda just like, I've had my friend Rachel on like a few episodes, but other than that, it's usually just me, just like in my room, just fucking yapping for an hour and love it. It's so much fun.

• 55:20Drew Afualo?

  That's a skill in and of itself. I tell people all the time, I think you've got it in spades, like being able to, especially twitching cuz like that's live. But uh talking, like, being able to talk to yourself and no one else for that long is like a skill I think a lot of people don't realize is very difficult.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:37Drew Afualo?

  People like you and I have it naturally where we're just annoying. I was like, I'm like, I'm literally, I'm just that annoying. Like, I can talk that much.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Could go on forever. Honestly, if you don't stop me, it won't end. Like, you're really, yeah, yeah.

• 55:49Drew Afualo?

  I joke with my uh cuz my fiance like is the complete opposite of that. Like, so I I just talk at him a lot. Like, I'll just tell him all kinds of things and he just listens to me. And like sometimes I'll be talking for like forty minutes straight and I'll start like, I wanted to tell him something I saw on Instagram and I'll end talking about like the Chinese Imperial Army. And I'm like, how did I get here?

• 56:10Speaker 02

  He's just sitting, he's just listening the whole time.

• 56:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:12Speaker 02

  Like, love that. Yeah, he's like, okay.

• 56:14Drew Afualo?

  And then as soon as I get to the end, I'm like, anyways, what was I saying? And he goes, you told me you saw something on Instagram. And I go, oh, right.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:20Drew Afualo?

  Those two broke up. Can you believe it? I was like, that was it.

• 56:23Speaker 02

  That's what that was the whole story. That was all you had to say, really, though. Like, no, yeah, I I feel that. I kinda get like a little carried away. Even on Twitch, sometimes they'll like ask me a question and I'll start answering the question and then like completely like, and they're like, well, you never answered the first question. Always, like constantly. And that's the thing, too, like with the podcast, I um, everyone's always just like, so as far as like the editing, like, you know, you have to like edit it. I'm like, oh, no, I purposely like try to talk for the hour straight so that there's very minimal editing. Like, I don't really, there's not a lot of cuts. I'm like, I just try to keep it fucking going. I'm like, I don't like to edit more than I have to. I'm like, I'm like, let's just keep it rolling. Yeah, I know. So I'm like, so it's usually just the uninterrupted full hour.

• 57:04Drew Afualo?

  Just stream of consciousness.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 57:06Drew Afualo?

  But that's a skill. It's fucking hard. Sometimes when people ask me like, oh, I want to start a podcast or I want to start this, like, what do I need to buy?

• 57:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's some advice? So, yeah.

• 57:15Drew Afualo?

  And I always tell them, I'm like, don't buy anything. Don't, don't even think about, don't think about names. Don't think about any of that. Just set up your phone and record yourself talking for forty minutes. Like, pick one thing to start about and then just see if you can do it.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  And just go, no, literally, before you even like buy this, you know, the Sony, the freaking mic.

• 57:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. And that's the thing too, at the end of the day too, it's like, even with like Twitch and stuff, like people will ask me like, oh, like, what kind of like, you know, what's, what stuff do I need? Like, as far as like the computers and the lights and the, and I'm like, my bill, my like little setup is so bare bones. It's so like low budget. I'm just like, it's just, it's whatever, like barely just works. But it's more about like the content that you as a person can like produce. Like, it's at the end of the day, they're like, they're there to watch you, you know what I mean? Like, some people's favorite streamers literally stream off of like a thirty dollar fucking webcam that like sucks. But they love the, the person behind the camera.

• 58:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 58:08Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? So like, yeah, so it doesn't always have to be like this, you know? Yeah, like people are like, oh, wow, I don't have like all this hype. I'm like, girl, just see if you could fucking do it first. You know what I mean? Like, just try it at least before you go buy all this stuff.

• 58:20Drew Afualo?

  I'm a huge proponent of using whatever it is you have. Like, it's funny you say that too, because like, I film all of my videos, I would say ninety-nine percent of my TikToks in TikTok.

• 58:29Speaker 02

  Really?

• 58:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I film them in-app.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:32Drew Afualo?

  I've been doing that since I started making videos. I'll even edit in TikTok. I don't give a fuck.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  No, literally so easy though.

• 58:38Drew Afualo?

  It's like so much easier too, because.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  They got the sound effects, they got everything. I'm like, wait, I really don't need much else.

• 58:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I'll, I'll do anything on my phone. If I could buy a home on my phone, I would. Like, I'll do it all on my phone. I have like a million and one tabs open because I'm just constantly doing shit on my phone. But I tell people all the time, I was like, I record shit on my iPhone all the time.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  No, you're so me, because I, this is actually really funny. I had never, like, growing up, like, we just had like the family computer. I never really like had a laptop or anything. So, and I, I didn't go to college, so I'm like, I never fucking needed one. Honestly, I'm like, high school was down where I'm like, cool, okay.

• 59:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Into the strip club I go. But like I genuinely, I never really needed like a laptop or anything, so I never had one.

• 59:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  And I had got one for the first time in like, probably like 2021. And I was just like, okay, like laptop time. Like, like, I just want to be like grown and sexy. I don't know. I bought it, never fucking touched it, never touched it. Sold it. Cause I'm like, I don't even use this thing. And then like when I started, when I actually started the podcast, I'm like, okay.

• 59:37Speaker 02

  But yeah, but like I still to this day, I'm like, I do everything on my phone. I'm like, I still, I'm like, do like, I use the laptop sometimes, but I'm like, I love, I just love my little phone.

• 59:44Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  Easy. It's so easy.

• 59:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we were, uh, when I, I think, I forget where we were. Oh, we were, when my sister, we threw something for her when she turned 30. And, uh, me and my friends were at the house and it was funny cause like, a lot of our friends were all in the same industry. So like, we all do the same shit. And so like the first day we were there, a lot of us had like brand deals and shit to do and like work. So we were all working, everyone was working on their laptops. I was working on my phone. And so I, I have the cord headphones still too. I always carry them with me. And I was editing a brand deal on my phone in TikTok. And I was like, I, cause my vision is so bad. I was literally like, I had it this close and I was going like this and I was doing it. And my friend took a picture of me. She goes, what the fuck are you doing? Cause I was just like this close to it.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  With the headphones.

• 1:00:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And I was a smile, in the picture, I'm smiling because I'm watching myself.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  You're watching, no.

• 1:00:31Drew Afualo?

  I'm laughing at myself.

• 1:00:33Speaker 02

  Oh my God. And people will always be like, I, I think it's so funny how you find yourself so funny. Like they'll, they'll clip me and I'll watch it back and I laugh as if it wasn't me that just did that 10 fucking minutes ago. I'm like, that was hilarious. They're like, bro, it's you. I'm like, so what? It's still funny. Like.

• 1:00:52Drew Afualo?

  If it was anyone else, you'd be laughing too.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. I'm like, I don't care. I watch my own shit back. I'm like, still got it.

• 1:00:59Drew Afualo?

  My man, my man told me this the other day. He was like, I hate when I'm watching your videos where I'm like making fun of someone or I'm just making jokes. And I can tell when you make yourself laugh really hard. Like there are points where he can tell, like my eyes light up.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  You genuinely like.

• 1:01:14Drew Afualo?

  I surprised myself.

• 1:01:17Drew Afualo?

  That was good. Yes. Oh my God. You're like proud of that one.

• 1:01:23Drew Afualo?

  Okay. I have, uh, one last one. It says that obviously recently you went viral for blind unboxing. And you famously had some bad luck, opening the ones you specifically didn't want. So we brought some here today, so we can open them together. Miss Carrie.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:01:38Drew Afualo?

  Can I have the blind box, please? I got you some so we can open them on camera together.

• 1:01:43Speaker 02

  Oh, stop, I'm so excited.

• 1:01:46Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  It's Christmas.

• 1:01:47Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  This is so fun.

• 1:01:49Drew Afualo?

  I know you like the skull candy ones.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:01:51Drew Afualo?

  So Carrie went and got them for me, but I, I don't know what kind they are, but like, these are different kinds.

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  Oh, this is the new series.

• 1:01:58Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, new series alert. Shout out Popmart.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  Wait, yeah.

• 1:02:02Drew Afualo?

  So I, I specifically was like, I gotta open one with her on camera.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 1:02:06Drew Afualo?

  Obviously, we have to open together.

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  Okay, well, you have to famously say which ones you really want and which ones you don't fucking want.

• 1:02:11Drew Afualo?

  Which ones you don't want in the box.

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  Which one you really don't want, yeah.

• 1:02:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, okay, let's see. You go first, I'll look.

• 1:02:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:02:16Drew Afualo?

  Cause you're more experienced than me.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  Honestly, okay, unlike the Christmas tree, these ones are actually all really fucking cute.

• 1:02:23Drew Afualo?

  Okay, true.

• 1:02:23Speaker 02

  I am really gonna be happy with this one, the Ganta, this pink one, or this one in the middle, the skeleton.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  Okay, one I don't want, really not fucking with the puppetry, really not rocking with her.

• 1:02:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:40Speaker 02

  And then the carousel lantern is also kinda fucking lame, so.

• 1:02:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree. I was gonna, okay, I really would love, I would love the Ganta too.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Drew Afualo?

  I like this, uh, Hill Sensor one, that's pretty sick.

• 1:02:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Ooh, that's pretty. Yeah.

• 1:02:56Drew Afualo?

  But I was thinking the same thing, of the, first of all, pan flute, lame.

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, lame.

• 1:03:01Drew Afualo?

  And then the pricket, what even is that?

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, pan flute's like upside down, like, girl, what are you doing?

• 1:03:05Drew Afualo?

  Girl, what are you doing? Get it right. Okay, so now we know, let's open them up. I, I think they have a little tab.

• 1:03:12Speaker 02

  Also, what kills me too, in my most recent one, where I bought like the giant, like, three hundred dollar, like.

• 1:03:17Drew Afualo?

  The Sanrio one?

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And at the end, I'm like, thank you, Popmart. And they're like, you're thanking them? Like, you didn't just pay for that shit?

• 1:03:23Drew Afualo?

  Thank you for taking my money, Popmart, I appreciate you.

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, literally, I'm like, okay, you didn't have to go there, but.

• 1:03:29Drew Afualo?

  Hey, guys, it's my fantasy.

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, right.

• 1:03:31Drew Afualo?

  Let me live it. Can you hear? I bet sound is loving this.

• 1:03:37Drew Afualo?

  Sounds perfect, sounds perfect. Oh, wait, I don't wanna see what it is. Don't spoil her for me. I wouldn't even tell, even if I could. How do you get this thing out? Oh, here she is. Oh, they're like little spheres.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  Let me see. Cause they are, they ruining, they show you the card on top. Who'd you get?

• 1:04:04Drew Afualo?

  Ugly little girl, hold on, let me see. Just kidding, just kidding, you're, you're a beautiful queen. What does it say? I literally got the puppetry one.

• 1:04:18Drew Afualo?

  Really not fucking with her.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  So did I.

• 1:04:23Drew Afualo?

  What the fucking odds?

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  You're right, you are cursed. That was the one I said I did, like, and it cursed you as well, like, are you kidding me?

• 1:04:30Drew Afualo?

  Man, your curse is so strong, it hit me at the same time.

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  Well, now that I look at her face card is crazy.

• 1:04:34Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, her, her-

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  The face card is really good.

• 1:04:36Drew Afualo?

  Her face is beat down, she's got, she's mugged down.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:39Drew Afualo?

  Easily.

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  But like, it's, it's concerning at this point, like genuinely, I'm like, I don't want the puppetry.

• 1:04:44Drew Afualo?

  The comments on your videos always being like, do not buy a lottery ticket.

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  Or the, the edits where it's like, they put the sad music behind it and everyone's like, okay, that didn't sit right with me.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  Y'all are so annoying.

• 1:05:00Drew Afualo?

  Still on the run.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  Oh my god, no, literally, but these are, I love that they're in like a little, like, their own thing. Wait, this is so much fun.

• 1:05:06Drew Afualo?

  They have their own enclosures.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  No, this is really cute, I do like, yeah. I love that for her.

• 1:05:10Drew Afualo?

  Look at, I'm so glad I could give you another unlucky one on camera.

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Thank you, no, but I'm, I'm, I'm learning to love her already, just like the Christmas tree, just like the Christmas tree.

• 1:05:17Drew Afualo?

  Cause she was born here, on the comment section.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, and I, yes, exactly, I'm gonna cherish her, but no, genuinely, thank you, she's so cute and thank you so much. Oh my god.

• 1:05:24Drew Afualo?

  Look at us, now we're matching something or other.

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  Little twins.

• 1:05:27Drew Afualo?

  I'm happy for us.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, just like the Christmas trees, they were twins, so, it worked.

• 1:05:32Drew Afualo?

  Twins, perfect.

• 1:05:35Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  My god, thank you for having me, I love you, my god, it's been amazing.

• 1:05:42Drew Afualo?

  You're so hilarious, I would love to know if you have any advice for anyone who maybe is like streaming or making content up and coming and like, uh, maybe they're feeling a little discouraged or disheartened. Obviously now, obviously you've been making content for a minute, but now recently, I, I'm so glad people are now seeing how fucking funny you are.

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:06:00Drew Afualo?

  And giving, and rewarding you for it, you're hilarious, but do you have any advice for anyone who's making content?

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Okay, I would say, again, like, you don't need like all the bells and whistles, like, literally just, just go for it, you know what I mean? And like- People will find you, like your little, your little crowd, like your, your niche, like they will find you. If you post enough and like get yourself out there, like the people that fuck with you will come and be like, "Girl, I fuck with you." So yeah, just like, just, and be yourself, like just trying to like be yourself, be authentic. Um, and I know it's hard when like your first time getting in front of the camera, it's always a little awkward, but the more you do it, the more like, it becomes easier every time, so.

• 1:06:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I, I agree with you about being yourself too, because you are, that I think is what people love the most about you. But it's also, I feel like obvious if you're trying to like act like somebody else or rip off their bit, it's obvious. And then you won't build a following. But yeah, period. I think that's fantastic advice.

• 1:06:50Speaker 02

  My god.

• 1:06:51Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love you. I think you're so funny. I can't wait to see what else you keep doing.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:06:55Drew Afualo?

  You're amazing. And thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section show. Thank you so much to my amazing guest Vanilla Mace. Where can everybody find you?

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  Um, Instagram Vanilla Mace with three L's, Twitch and TikTok is just Vanilla Mace.

• 1:07:08Drew Afualo?

  Period. Look at that. Make sure you follow Vanilla on literally everything. She's so fucking funny. And literally my twin.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:07:14Drew Afualo?

  We're so much alike.

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  No, literally, and look, like, come on, I mean.

• 1:07:17Drew Afualo?

  Certified.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:07:20Drew Afualo?

  Thank you all so much for watching. Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video is for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much for watching. Thank you to my amazing guest Vanilla Mace, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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