PSYCHIC BUT STUPID Ft. Trixie Mattel | Episode 151

HAPPY NEW YEAR! Trixie Mattel is here for another All-Stars episode and we really couldn’t think of a better way to enter 2025. Trixie and Drew talk about New Years Resolutions, their psychic visions, getting so high you think you’re in the play you’re watching, dismantling productivity, breaking down Little Women, the Tiktok ban and taking breaks, and so much more. Trixie IG: instagram.com/trixiemattel/?hl=en Trixie Tiktok: tiktok.com/@trixie?lang=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:01Speaker 02

  And there's always gay people in the plays. And so I'm in the front row, paper white with a bald head, and I know these fags are doing their thing, and they're like, is that Trixie Mattel? Like, you know what I mean? I don't know why this is the choreography, but I know that they're like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah. Good news! What the fuck? And they're like turning to the other girls on stage being like, she's the...

• 1:29Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show starring me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. First, before we get on to the amazing guest, Happy New Year, y'all. Happy 2025. Woo, woo, woo! And to kick off the new year, we have an all-star returning. The one, the only, the iconic, the legendary, Trixie Mattel!

• 1:51Drew Afualo?

  Welcome back.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  I can't believe, you know, when we first did this, well, first of all, when you get asked back, it means you really were either great the first time, or I'm gonna give you another shot.

• 2:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  Because last time you fucked up.

• 2:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, let's not, let's, let's make this one count.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  This is my, this is my do over. That was my rehearsal.

• 2:08Drew Afualo?

  Right. Or, or a secret third option, I got bullied into asking you.

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Well, the fans. Bring back the so and so. Oh, my fans are like, so Brittany hasn't been on your channel for two hours. We're mad.

• 2:21Drew Afualo?

  That's me, Caleb and Brittany.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:23Drew Afualo?

  They're like, aren't you guys gonna like, get together and fucking make something?

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:26Drew Afualo?

  Well.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Don't you wish? What would you do if it was me, you, Brittany and Caleb in a room? What would happen?

• 2:32Drew Afualo?

  I'd put a gun in my mouth.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  Did you see?

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Did you see Caleb on Ziway?

• 2:37Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course I did. I hate him.

• 2:42Speaker 02

  I think Ziway was even like,

• 2:45Speaker 02

  what do I do now? Yeah, she was like, what do I do?

• 2:47Drew Afualo?

  I love her.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  Someone's talking back to me. You know what I mean? That's not George Santos. You know what I mean? And you know, and he's kind of the George Santos of drag.

• 2:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's true. That's fair.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Even George Santos isn't the George Santos of drag.

• 2:58Drew Afualo?

  No, it's Caleb. Yeah, Caleb as George Santos.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Yes. I need Caleb to go on Drag Race and read the girls. Could you imagine?

• 3:04Drew Afualo?

  I would love that.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  He'd be like, you should leave.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna critique that.

• 3:08Drew Afualo?

  They'd really be like, you're too mean.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  Too mean.

• 3:10Drew Afualo?

  You need to leave.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  He is mean, but in a funny way. Oh, I was watching that. I just did his pod and there was one part, I was like, did you know I'm psychic? And he goes, what? It's like mad. I'm like, okay, I won't come on your pod and talk about my secret talent.

• 3:23Drew Afualo?

  My bad. I'm sorry. I thought you wanted to see stars.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I thought you wanted psychic friends. Call now.

• 3:28Drew Afualo?

  And you know what's funny? You're a Virgo and I'm a Virgo and I also think I'm psychic.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 3:32Drew Afualo?

  So let's gang up on him.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Well, let's talk about, do you have a psychic occurrence? Like one time where you were like, damn, I knew something.

• 3:37Drew Afualo?

  Yes. I have them all the time. But I, I feel like I mostly have them in like dreams or like I have dreams that of things that happen. And you know, people say, oh, deja vu, I saw this. That happens to me all the time, but with huge things. Like, I'll see something so incredibly clear and I'm like, well, that's gonna happen to me. I just don't know when. And then when it does, I'm like, I knew it.

• 3:57Speaker 02

  I knew it.

• 3:58Drew Afualo?

  Also, do you want to hear something so stupid that I feel like I predicted?

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Would I ever say no to that? I want to hear the stupidest thing you've ever said.

• 4:06Drew Afualo?

  You know the movie Dear John?

• 4:09Drew Afualo?

  You know it's a Nicholas Sparks book.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Oh, isn't it, isn't it an illness thing?

• 4:12Drew Afualo?

  No, no, no, no.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 4:13Drew Afualo?

  That one, well, I mean, there is illness in it, but that one is like a, a girl who's like, she likes to build houses or whatever. The less fortunate, me making fun of her, I'm not trying to.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  What a fucking bitch, she builds houses.

• 4:25Drew Afualo?

  What a loser.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Bye.

• 4:26Drew Afualo?

  She cares about people who don't have homes.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  You get a tiny home, tiny home at Amazon. You're not need to build a house bitch. Get off your high horse, you tool about hoe. Nobody cares. HGTV couldn't be me.

• 4:40Drew Afualo?

  She's like, it's like he's a marine or something and he like.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  He sounded vested in the movie.

• 4:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, something, something like that.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Building a house, he's a marine.

• 4:48Drew Afualo?

  Some shit, me not knowing the plot at all. I read the book when I was in middle school. I remember this so clearly. When I read it, I was like, I like to like, when I read, I like to picture people in the roles. Cause it helps me read faster. And so I, not kidding, this is years before this movie came out. I would picture Channing Tatum specifically as the soldier.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 5:08Drew Afualo?

  Cause I was like, based off build and based off what Nicholas Sparks has written, I would assume he looks like Channing Tatum. Fast forward years later, he gets cast in the movie. I really was like, I predicted that. I literally knew that.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  I think we take a break. I thought you were gonna say you dreamt about a natural disaster. I thought you were gonna say, you know.

• 5:30Drew Afualo?

  You wanna hear another one?

• 5:31Speaker 02

  You dreamt about Channing Tatum, news flash bitch, everyone dreams about Channing Tatum.

• 5:35Drew Afualo?

  I didn't dream about him. I dreamed him into that role and he's welcome. You're welcome. Channing Tatum, if you've ever watched this, you're welcome.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  I think by reading Nicholas Sparks novels at that age, we could tell you were gonna become who you are. Is that when, that's when the hate for men began.

• 5:49Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  The Nicholas Sparks novels.

• 5:50Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely. And I'd hate them in those books too. I'd be like, nah.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  Can I say, I have a worse psychic thing. Okay, this is like two weeks ago. I was at home, right? I was at home and I was, I was sitting and I was with someone and I go, all right, I just had like a clear as day vision of Daryl Hannah. And she has no makeup or no hair on and she looked really surprised. I was like, did something bad happen to her? She dying, she can't, like, what's happening, you know?

• 6:14Drew Afualo?

  You're just convinced, you're like, oh, I have bad news for Daryl Hannah.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna go pee, can you Google that? I come back from peeing and my friend is holding the phone like, and I go, why is it? It's like 12:03, he's like, it's her birthday as of midnight. This just happened. Now, nobody's been amazed by this, but how often do we all sit and think about Daryl Hannah?

• 6:37Drew Afualo?

  With no wig, no makeup.

• 6:38Speaker 02

  And no wig and makeup. And my vision of her being surprised at midnight on her birthday.

• 6:44Drew Afualo?

  You think she was surprised it was her birthday?

• 6:46Speaker 02

  I mean, I think it's more impressive than predicting Channing Tatum's in Dear John.

• 6:49Drew Afualo?

  Is it? That sounds like those are the same. I'm like, oh, Channing Tatum in Dear John, Daryl Hannah's birthday.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  I know. And also, both of those are not psychic enough to get any response. Both of those are like, okay.

• 7:02Drew Afualo?

  I like how we're talking shit on each other's visions or psychic abilities, but everyone else is like, neither of those things are psychic. You're fucking stupid. If those things mean you're a clairvoyant person. But I do believe I am. I really do.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  I think intuition exists, right?

• 7:17Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  I read Stephen King's The Shining, and they talked about The Shining in the book. They talk about it almost as being like, not necessarily clairvoyant, but it's like a spectrum of like, some people have a little shine. They'll do things like, bring home flowers. Uh, one of the examples is like, oh, bring home flowers to their wife, not knowing she had a bad day. Or they don't study for a test and they get good grades.

• 7:37Drew Afualo?

  Gotcha.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Everybody has a little bit of sensitivity.

• 7:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  And obviously, the extreme of that is, oh, I can help the FBI identify a dead body.

• 7:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  I don't have that.

• 7:44Drew Afualo?

  That being said, like, have you ever seen The Conjuring?

• 7:48Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 7:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, okay. Did you watch the newest one? Like, the remake of it? They did like a remake a couple of years ago or something.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  Of the Conjuring film?

• 7:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  The Conjuring's not that old.

• 7:57Drew Afualo?

  Wait, was it The Conjuring? Yeah, it was. I'm pretty sure.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  With Patrick Wilson and, and, um, Vera Farmiglia.

• 8:03Drew Afualo?

  Wait, yeah, okay. So you're talking about the recent one, then? The one that you watched?

• 8:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:06Drew Afualo?

  Okay, yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. Hello? Psychic but stupid?

• 8:13Speaker 02

  It's, that's the other thing too. So now I think I'm psychic and I'm like, oh my God, I knew that password to Verizon.com. I'm psychic.

• 8:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  It's like, bitch, you made that password. That's not psychic, that's memory, ho. You know what I mean? You remember something you did?

• 8:29Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:30Speaker 02

  Psychic?

• 8:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's not, yeah, no. You could guess your own password, okay.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  Big deal.

• 8:34Drew Afualo?

  When I was really high once and I was watching Interstellar.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 8:37Drew Afualo?

  And you know, I told this story on my other pod, but like, you know how Matt Damon is in Interstellar, but he's also in The Martian?

• 8:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 8:44Drew Afualo?

  So, so when I saw Matt Damon in Interstellar, mind you, I've watched, I've watched Interstellar, but like years ago, so I was watching it recently. And I was so balls deep in a high. And I'm watching Interstellar and I see Matt Damon and I'm like, oh my God, Matt Damon's in this movie? And I'm thinking all of this in my head. And then I start imagining that I've made up The Martian. Like I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I thought he was in a movie called The Martian. That'd be crazy if he was in a movie called The Martian. Like I'm having this internal dialogue. I'm not telling anybody. But I'm just like, wow, I imagined the movie poster.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  You're like, I be knowing shit.

• 9:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I remember, I was like, someone should get in the studio and make that and cast Matt Damon and call it The Martian. Don't know what the plot is. I've never seen that movie. Never seen that movie. But I was convinced that I made up The Martian. Like just the name and the movie poster and casting Matt Damon, nothing past that.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  The weed is a problem. I kind of got off the weed because I don't, I don't, I don't do all that. And like, I don't want to do all that. Did I tell you what happened to me at Wicked?

• 9:40Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  Okay, so I went to-

• 9:41Drew Afualo?

  I know you didn't get invited to the premiere, oh.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  I know, bummer. But that's okay. That's okay.

• 9:46Drew Afualo?

  We had a lot of fun, though.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  I'm at peace with it, okay? I'm at peace with it. I mean, you brought it up. You know, but I, I was, did they have a green carpet?

• 9:55Drew Afualo?

  Uh, yeah, yeah, it was green. Well, it was like a really, really deep green, so it almost looked black, but yeah.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Okay. Well, I went to see Wicked on Broadway like four months ago because I was there alone, no, six, eight months ago now. But I was there alone. And if you're alone and you have nothing to do in New York, you can get a good ticket for cheap because everybody has a middle seat in the front and no one wants to sit in. Because most people go to theater with friends, I have no friends. So, I'm there by myself and I have one of those weed pen, vape pen things.

• 10:20Drew Afualo?

  Gotcha.

• 10:20Speaker 02

  And I go and I'm like, I'm gonna see the play. And I've seen Wicked like three times in my life, but I was like, I know I'm gonna like it and I want to see it before the movie comes out, whatever. So I go, I sit at intermission, I go outside, I do the vape pen of the marijuana, and then-

• 10:31Drew Afualo?

  Oh wait, this is the Broadway?

• 10:33Speaker 02

  The Broadway play. This is not the film.

• 10:34Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Right?

• 10:35Drew Afualo?

  I thought you were talking about the film.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  No, this is the, this is the Broadway play.

• 10:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  And I go and I'm seeing Alexandra Socha play Glinda, who I've seen in other plays before, and I'm seeing Mary Kate Morrissey, the new, the new Elphaba.

• 10:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I love her.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  And I'm horny for it. I'm like, yes.

• 10:46Drew Afualo?

  I love her, yeah.

• 10:47Speaker 02

  And it's the part, No Good Deed, where she's like singing and there's a green light and there's, she's got this book on the ground and her hair is blowing and I'm like, I'm like in it. I'm like, yeah, girl. Yeah.

• 10:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  And then I go, the song ends and I go, oh, that's my line.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  I swear to God, I grabbed the arms of the seat and I started to stand up and I went, I'm not in the play.

• 11:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God.

• 11:11Speaker 02

  So you don't need to do like so much weed that you think you're in the play? That you think you're in the movie?

• 11:16Drew Afualo?

  Wouldn't that be crazy, though, if you did? You stood up and started singing too?

• 11:19Speaker 02

  I almost turned around and was like, like,

• 11:24Speaker 02

  thank you for coming to tonight. I was gonna do, sing, dance, I don't know.

• 11:29Drew Afualo?

  And that's act two. Thank you.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  And the other problem is too, I'm so bald and there's always gay people in the plays. And so I'm in the front row, paper white with a bald head and I know these fags are doing their thing and they're like, is that Trixie Mattel? Like, you know what I mean? I don't know why this is the choreography, but I know that they're like, what the fuck is going on here? Goodness, what the fuck? And they're like turning to the other girls on stage being like, she's dead.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  Like, I can feel it. Madame Morrible comes out and it's like, you know, she's like,

• 12:00Speaker 02

  not that I'm famous, but like musical theater gays, I know that they're like,

• 12:03Drew Afualo?

  You're, we're, we're famous in very specific rooms. Like, very specific rooms and some rooms, they couldn't care if I live or die. In other rooms, I'm like Angela Jolie. Like, I'm literally like an untouchable celebrity.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:16Drew Afualo?

  In other rooms, I'm invisible.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I mean, at the venues, like when I tour Solving Disco, it'll be like, uh, the people there are like shitting and then the people who work at the venue are like, who the fuck are you?

• 12:27Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  And I'm like, the person who sold out the theater.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 12:31Drew Afualo?

  That's me on, yeah.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  I don't know. They're like, what do you do? Somebody said this to me recently. It was so crazy. Somebody said to me recently, you know, I'm on my anti workaholism tour now.

• 12:39Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 12:39Speaker 02

  After my break.

• 12:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, as all good Virgos should be.

• 12:42Speaker 02

  I'm dismantling the like, the productivity obsession. It's over, right? Give it all up.

• 12:46Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  It's, it's over.

• 12:47Drew Afualo?

  I need that.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  And I'm here to coach you.

• 12:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, for real.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  Don't end up like me. And I was with someone recently and they were like, we're talking about what you do if you win the lottery. And this, this person goes like, I found this one. I'd kind of be like you. I would just kind of float. I was like, is that what you think I've been doing, bitch?

• 13:01Drew Afualo?

  I'd be like.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Floating?

• 13:02Drew Afualo?

  Your, your life looks awesome.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Floating? Okay, ho. I was like, you know.

• 13:07Drew Afualo?

  I wish I'd been floating.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Baby, launch me to space.

• 13:11Drew Afualo?

  I would love to float.

• 13:12Speaker 02

  The Martian.

• 13:13Drew Afualo?

  The Martian.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Make me the Martian.

• 13:14Drew Afualo?

  We should make the Martian. But it's the two of us as Matt Damon.

• 13:17Speaker 02

  But we've ne- we should have never seen it.

• 13:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  And we should make up the Martian and just do like our own spin on it.

• 13:22Drew Afualo?

  I was like, that's so funny. I was thinking about the, like, I was thinking, I was telling my family. I'm like, I really want to go see Gladiator two. Cause I haven't seen it yet, but the girls are loving it. So I was like, I kind of want to go see it. And my dad was like, have you seen the first Gladiator? And I go, oh, no, but I'm sure I could like figure it out, you know? And then he was, and then he goes, we've got to see it. And I'm like, well, I guess I could, but like, I don't have to by any means. Um, but I told them, sometimes when I tell people, if they ask me, I've, I've seen a movie that like, a lot of people have seen, like, let's use like Titanic, for example. Which I have seen Titanic, but let's say someone's like, oh, have you seen Titanic? And I go, yeah, I think so. If I say that, the answer is no. I've just watched a couple of scenes and I feel like I got the gist.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  Honestly, so many movies are that. So many movies are that. Like, bitch, you don't need to see Gladiator.

• 14:08Drew Afualo?

  I'm telling you.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  I'm not even, you don't need to see Wizard of Oz to get wicked.

• 14:12Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Maybe, I mean, that's really weird if you haven't seen that, but.

• 14:15Drew Afualo?

  That is true, yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  But what's a good example of it? Like.

• 14:17Drew Afualo?

  Like The Godfather? I've never seen The Godfather.

• 14:19Speaker 02

  Oh, can I tell you?

• 14:20Drew Afualo?

  Please do.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  I watched it on, on my break, just cause I was like, I've never seen this. It was amazing. And I hate to validate.

• 14:27Drew Afualo?

  I heard it's been ama- I heard it's amazing.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  I, and I, I guess because I'm gay, I'm always like, if a straight guy has had this poster in his dorm room, I'm going to hate it. So like that, Reservoir Dogs, like any of that shit, I'm like, this is gonna be. Godfather was amazing.

• 14:39Drew Afualo?

  Was it?

• 14:39Speaker 02

  It was amazing.

• 14:40Drew Afualo?

  I mean, I'm sure it was. I believe you.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  There's a part, one, I don't, can I like ruin one part of it?

• 14:45Drew Afualo?

  Go ahead.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  There's a part where his.

• 14:46Drew Afualo?

  It's been out for a thousand years.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  His wife, you know, he's getting like the mob and all that.

• 14:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  His wife drives away in a car and he realizes that the last second, there's a bomb in the car and he turns and her fucking car explodes and you don't see it coming. And I was watching it like, oh, it really got me. And again, I was like, it's my line. It was really gaggy.

• 15:05Drew Afualo?

  I know when I, even that movie, like, I've never seen it, but I feel like I got the gist.

• 15:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's like, or like, what's a good example of some of it?

• 15:11Drew Afualo?

  I say that, but then like one time I, I summarized Pride and Prejudice. Never seen that either. I summarized it. I was so wrong. It's not even funny. I was like talking very confidently too. So I was like, well, he gets, he gets, he, they stand in the rain. He confesses his love and then, um, he gets like pneumonia and dies. That's what I said, like confidently.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  Right.

• 15:31Drew Afualo?

  And my sister was trying to guess the movie. I was just giving it a loose description because I don't know anything. So I was like telling her and then everybody in the comments was like, that's literally not what happens at all. Like it's, it could not be further from what happens. It's also, wow.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Oh, it's, I mean, people love to call it out in the comments. If I, if I do like a best of, this year I did my best of 2024 makeup products on my YouTube channel, which y'all can watch.

• 15:51Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  And every year I round up the things that I thought were the best, the best lip liner brand, the best perfume, the best. And this year I had to go on the internet and look for the individual price because sometimes I'm like, the foundations, I don't know what, like 10 bucks? And people in the comments will be like, it's 15.99. Out of touch much?

• 16:09Speaker 02

  I'm like, oh my God.

• 16:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. One percenter.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I noticed when I walked in here, that book over there is Little Women.

• 16:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Would you like to summarize Little Women?

• 16:17Drew Afualo?

  I actually have seen Little Women.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Oh, did you want me to?

• 16:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, sure. Please.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  Okay. So there's women and it's a, so they don't start little. That's what everybody thinks. And that's like, I could see you're gonna say that.

• 16:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  They start. Huge.

• 16:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, big.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  But it's kind of Benjamin Button.

• 16:34Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Where their avatar, and then as they get older, they're shrinking. So like the oldest sister, that bitch is fly pocket. Dash is a tic tac.

• 16:42Drew Afualo?

  So little.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Other sisters, the youngest are like, is this gonna happen to me? And the little, the little ones are like, can't hear you. Your vocal cords are so big and so loud. Uh, like, I'm shut up. Like, they can't hear you, right? And the little one's like a mouse voice. And it's this kind of, it's kind of a comedy. Of people who just can't, it's like, what? And they kind of pass it off.

• 17:01Drew Afualo?

  Russian doll. At the very end, they all jump into each other. Russian doll.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  Yes. And then at the end, they realize it's not about who's big or small. It's about the friends they made along the way.

• 17:12Drew Afualo?

  And they found love along the way, I bet.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  I sometimes think, it's fun to have seen something and talk about it, but it's way more fun to have never seen it and talk about it.

• 17:20Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying. I feel like, I feel like I got the gist.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:23Drew Afualo?

  I'll tell you a movie that I think men love, straight men love, that I think objectively is horrible, and I was forced to watch in college. Citizen Kane.

• 17:30Speaker 02

  Oh, I've not seen it.

• 17:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, don't. It's stupid.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  Citizen Kane. But is it like, it's, can I just say like, the men who like Joker like that, right?

• 17:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. Or like Wolf of Wall Street. Like, if they love those movies, they love Citizen Kane. They're like, if you're really a cinephile, you'll watch Citizen Kane. I'm like, shit was boring. I'll be honest. I'm like, Hobbs and Shaw? That movie, this is a furious spinoff starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson and Jason Statham. That movie's better than Citizen Kane.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  I believe that. I believe that.

• 18:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  I'm very horny to watch Red One.

• 18:02Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God. My family's seen it. They said it was awesome.

• 18:04Speaker 02

  I'm so excited. I, you know, when you go home for your family, you have to start making your list of things to keep you busy, because after you do the hugs, you're like, oh, right. You know? And so I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I was like, I'm gonna fucking watch Red One, and I'm gonna love it. I know I'm gonna love it.

• 18:17Drew Afualo?

  Right. That's gonna be me with Gladiator two with no information whatsoever. I do not plan on watching the first Gladiator at all. I'm just gonna go in blind.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  I'm sh- that movie was not made yesterday. Like, they're not gonna make it a direct sequel thirty years later.

• 18:30Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I'll find my way through it. I'm sure I'll be fine. If I have any questions, I'll keep them till the end. And I'll ask, hey, I don't understand this.

• 18:37Speaker 02

  Is, oh, I was thinking of Three Hundred. Those are different movies. I've not seen any of those.

• 18:41Drew Afualo?

  Me either.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  I've noticed two.

• 18:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Three Hundred, same thing. I like, I've watched Scenes, feel like I got the gist. Braveheart, same thing. Scenes, feel like I got the gist.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  You know that scene in The Hunger Games where they're riding the chariots? Like, that, I've seen that, and so got it. Got it to all of those.

• 18:58Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I'm good.

• 18:59Speaker 02

  You got it.

• 19:00Drew Afualo?

  I'm good now.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  I got it.

• 19:02Drew Afualo?

  Before your break, you said you were gonna try to watch Game of Thrones. Did you watch it?

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Okay, this is the thing.

• 19:06Drew Afualo?

  Did you get into it?

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Yes, because Katya for years is like, you gotta watch it. And I'm just like, I don't want to out her. All Katya does is watch television and movies. All she does is lay on the couch and take smoke breaks and watch films. Like this.

• 19:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I envy her.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  And then she has the nerve to show up, you know, I, I was at peak workaholism, no, not a day to breathe. And she was like, did you watch Game of Thrones? Do you think I have, that's a college course. Like, that's, that's me taking a, a night class of the women's learning enix. Like, I'll have that kind of time. So I watched two seasons of it and I was like, you can't look at the phone. You have to watch Game of Thrones like this.

• 19:42Drew Afualo?

  You have to stay like locked in.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  And they're all different families, all different parts of the world. Many of them, two seasons in, have never met.

• 19:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  And I'm like, but she's her, and that's she's fucking her brother. And he, like, it was just.

• 19:54Drew Afualo?

  It's a lot.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Sometimes you have to say like, good for you, girl. You got this, girl. But I'm gonna go sit over here. And I don't need to tell Game of Thrones they're good. They know.

• 20:03Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  So they don't need me to wa, like, they don't need my validation.

• 20:07Drew Afualo?

  That is tea. And it is a lot. Like, it's funny, because I put my family on Game of Thrones when I was in college. My friend told me to watch it, and so I started, which is like, tells you how long that fucking show's been going on. But I showed it to my family, and then my parents kept falling asleep. Like, we would try to watch together and they kept falling asleep. So then I was like, okay, new rule. If you fall asleep, catch up on your own time. We're moving along. So then like, we kept watching and sometimes my mom would be like, I don't understand, I missed that part. Gotta go back.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  Sorry, ho.

• 20:34Drew Afualo?

  Go back on your own time.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  That's not about me.

• 20:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, sorry. That's your problem to handle.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's too much. You know, something that makes me zero to a hundred is when you're in like a group setting or family setting, and you all go, let's watch, okay, we're gonna watch Four Christmases, whatever. Which was a great movie. I'd never seen it.

• 20:50Drew Afualo?

  I love that movie.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  It was great.

• 20:51Drew Afualo?

  It's so funny.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  The older I get, and now that I like am PTSD, I can't handle any amount of stress, I, I have to watch like, you know, um, the Lindsay Lohan Christmas movie. Like, that's the only level of stress I can handle on a film now.

• 21:03Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Anything sad, I cry like I know the people. I'm like, ah, like, I can't do it. I can't do it.

• 21:08Drew Afualo?

  Oh, me too.

• 21:08Speaker 02

  I cry like Sarah Paulson.

• 21:09Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Watching, you know, a documentary about people I don't know. You know, like, huh, like, it's too much.

• 21:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  But I hate when we're in a group, and, and when I start, when I'm like, ah, and I go to react to something, and the person I'm with is asleep, I'm like.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  I'm like, you remember Misery when she's like, Paul, you've been out of your bed again? And she has a sledgehammer? I'm like, you're gonna learn today.

• 21:33Drew Afualo?

  Especially if they haven't seen it, but I have and I want them to watch it. I get pissed off.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  It feels disrespectful.

• 21:38Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, I should just turn it off and turn something else on since you're so fucking bored. Sorry.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, this grateful I love that you're like, or when they're scrolling, I'm like, you better watch. I'm gonna lock your fucking phone.

• 21:49Drew Afualo?

  I know, on your phone, I know, I'm pissed.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Well, that was my problem with Game of Thrones is like, I, what do you mean I can't? Um, like, look at the TikTok shop. I have to do this to the movie?

• 21:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  What is this, the 90s? Like, what are we, what are we talking about? We used to sit like this for hours and watch TV.

• 22:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, what is this, the Friends finale? I don't need, no TiVo.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  You know, in movies like Girl Interrupted, where there's like a, somebody who maybe is very mentally unwell? And they show them at their worst? What are they doing? They're in front of a TV watching it like this.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  And you're telling me that's what I'm supposed to want to do?

• 22:21Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  I'm not a TV or movie watcher.

• 22:24Drew Afualo?

  Me either, honestly.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  I hate to be a hater. I'll watch a documentary.

• 22:27Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  But that gets me too whipped up. They affect me too much. I watched that anti, um, I watched that like anti consumerism documentary about like, you know, all the things we're doing to the ocean and fast fashion and everything. And I was like, so, we're Amish now?

• 22:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we have to be.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  We have to be.

• 22:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you get too, too into it.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  You know, Kati-

• 22:45Drew Afualo?

  I love watching ones on cults. I've been watching ones on cults a lot lately. Have you watched Twin Flames University?

• 22:50Speaker 02

  Baby. Oh, I watched the two of the Twin Flames. There's two different ones, I watched both. Is that a new thing?

• 22:54Drew Afualo?

  I watched, well, I watched the one on Netflix. I don't know if there's, I only saw one.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, there's not enough men and women to pair up here, so guess what? Um, you're trans.

• 23:03Drew Afualo?

  That's like, I'm not even kidding, I was like, what? When I was watching it? And they're like, cut your hair short. And then she goes, no, I'm not doing that, and leaves.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  And it's sort of, sort of a recipe too, like, I'm not, sometimes it's people who are at their worst and have nothing, and a cult takes them in.

• 23:19Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 23:19Speaker 02

  It's typically people who are like, too financially comfortable, both parents who love them, and they're like, what if I just fuck my shit up?

• 23:27Drew Afualo?

  I'm feeling bored.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, what if I just go?

• 23:30Drew Afualo?

  I said on.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  You know, like they're always like, it was a she had a great life. We loved her. She knows she's very talented.

• 23:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  And then she just met this guy.

• 23:38Drew Afualo?

  And that was in the Twin Flames University. It was all their stories were like that.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  They're like, I know I was at the top of my game, my business, you know, my family loved me and I just said, no.

• 23:47Drew Afualo?

  And I saw this guy in the parking lot of the Taco Bell and I said, sure.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  I saw this platonic ass couple on a zoom. He said, yes, me too.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  Like, what the fuck?

• 23:58Drew Afualo?

  I said on.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  Your girlfriend is over there.

• 24:03Drew Afualo?

  Well, you're gay now. That's like how that that one was crazy. And when I was on Caleb's show the first time, I told him, I said in a clip that I think I'm too smart to be inducted into a cult. And when he put it on TikTok, they were like, actually, smart people get taken into cults constantly.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  It's actually really serious.

• 24:21Drew Afualo?

  It's actually, that's actually, those are the people who actually join cults. Well, maybe I'm better than everyone.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  Actually, Albert Einstein was in a cult and actually Gina Davis, who is a, you know, not, not MRSA. What's the smart people thing? Mensa.

• 24:34Drew Afualo?

  Not MRSA.

• 24:37Drew Afualo?

  No, that's a flesh eating disease.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Actually Gina Davis, who's an excellent archerist, she's a genius and she's in a cult. No, I don't know. I have a hard time. I have a hard, I live just two blocks from the Scientology Celebrity Center and I, I'm always like, wow, wow. That's all I'll say because I live in fear, but I'm always like, wow.

• 24:54Drew Afualo?

  Me too. And well, that's why like I said, I was too smart and I was like, well, are they psychic? Maybe that's why I haven't been put into a cult.

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Huge if true.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Huge if true.

• 25:07Drew Afualo?

  If true.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Huge if true is my new favorite, like, you know, oh, is that, oh, my chapstick. Huge if true. Anything. I found a parking spot. Huge if true. It's just dumb.

• 25:17Drew Afualo?

  I know. That's why I, even when Chris Fleming was on here, we talked about Scientology, but he was telling me he, he gets scared too of them. So he was, sometimes he'll just look in the parking lot and be like.

• 25:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've said things and people in the room are like, like, because we don't know what kind of like, you know, like, um, power they have in like your YouTube videos are, you know, shadow, I love when people say they're shadow banned and they just make bad things. I posted a selfie and no one liked it. Obviously, I'm shadow banned.

• 25:45Drew Afualo?

  Or they don't post consistently.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm shadow banned.

• 25:48Drew Afualo?

  They post once a month and then you're like, well.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  Well, that is what it is, more than anything. If you don't post consistently.

• 25:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  It's more than anything.

• 25:55Drew Afualo?

  And we post way too consistently.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Too much. How many things do you have come out like per week?

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• 27:30Speaker 02

  Renewal.

• 27:34Drew Afualo?

  Um, like scheduled and filmed in advance, probably like two or three things.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. So Katie and I have like, you know, we have Ball and the Beautiful and I have one YouTube video a week. And then, you know, if I'm doing pit stop, that's another thing.

• 27:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Um, but you know, two or three things a week, people, people don't realize it's kind of a lot to make.

• 27:52Drew Afualo?

  No shit.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  It's a lot to make. And then, you know, if you're a live performer, which I know a lot of people who do like online things, don't perform live. It's also like you filmed during the week and then you work the weekends.

• 28:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:02Speaker 02

  And that's where, when I had to take the break, that was where I actually just like, after years and years of that, I was like, I broke myself. Like I just was like, no, I just, something just all of a sudden was like, nope. Like I was like more, you know, I don't know, you're going on break.

• 28:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  How did you figure out that it's, wait, your break is, can we call it a fake? Because I just saw your.

• 28:23Drew Afualo?

  Let's call it an amuse bouche.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. I saw her TikTok that's like, guys. I walk in here, she goes, can you make a TikTok? I said, what the fuck is this?

• 28:31Drew Afualo?

  I didn't say that. Our social girl Laura said that.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Laura's co-opting and coercing and pressuring a young girl who has boundaries. Laura. And, and then you said, yeah, I said, I'm just still filming. I said, so you're filming and you're making TikToks on your break?

• 28:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  What the fuck? What the fuck?

• 28:51Drew Afualo?

  I know. My break is exclusively from TikTok, more specifically like making like content for it. Cause I realistically, I don't need to post nearly as much as I do, like original content just for that app.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Please stop.

• 29:04Drew Afualo?

  But I continue, I've done it every single day consistently for like the last three years.

• 29:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:09Drew Afualo?

  And like, if I ever miss days, it would be like maybe one, maybe two, like max. And then I would be like, I have to post at least two TikToks today. So I just kept doing that. And in addition to everything else I've been doing. So, but I've been. I feel like getting choked out on TikTok. I'm just like getting burnt out and growing resentful towards it. So I was like, I need to step back from this app specifically because it's it's starting to warp how I see myself and like whether or not I even like this job and I love this job. I don't want to feel that way. And since that's like, I was describing it to my team as like TikTok is like the engine of my car. It's not the only thing in my car. Like I have lots of other moving pieces, but it was like what started it and what like is at the center of it. So I was like, I need a break from this app specifically. So I don't look at it anymore.

• 29:53Drew Afualo?

  Anything I post is ads or like promotional stuff.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  When you come back, it could be gone.

• 29:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  It's just kind of cunty.

• 29:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, which I didn't plan. Like some people were like, well, you're doing that and before it gets banned. I'm like, well, it I don't know if it's gonna get banned, but if it does, okay. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if it's going to, but.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Do you know what I realized?

• 30:10Drew Afualo?

  We will see.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  On my break, I left, I was out of LA. I was living like, you know, I only watched the news. I didn't go on Twitter. I didn't look at emails. I didn't do anything. No social media for at least three months.

• 30:22Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  After like three weeks, I felt like I left the matrix.

• 30:25Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Girl, I love doing YouTube. I love making dumb videos and all that. But social media feels so real. The internet feels so real and it is real. The way it affects the world is real.

• 30:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but it feels like a real place.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  Worth losing sleep over.

• 30:40Drew Afualo?

  No, for real. You're so real about that.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  And it took, I almost started, the longer I wasn't performing, the longer I was just like biking around and doing watercolor all day. I was like,

• 30:50Speaker 02

  none of that, like nothing about wearing a wig and talking to my friends should keep me up at night.

• 30:55Drew Afualo?

  For real.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  That is actually embarrassing and crazy.

• 30:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree. Even even just like the distance from just that one app. Cause like even so, like because that was like the main app that I'm always on. Like I'll, I'll look at Instagram, but I don't post nearly as often on there. I don't have a YouTube. I do the shows. I have my book, like all my other mini things, but like it's basically just Instagram and TikTok, so. Once, as soon as I left that app, it just stopped looking at shit and stopped looking at notifications and stopped, just not even looking at it at all. I've never felt freer, like I've felt lighter already and it hasn't even been that long.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  Oh, my god, all the, all of a sudden, the world around to you starts to be like, oh, this is the main character.

• 31:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like this is what matters.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Like, me, you, your mom. Everybody here.

• 31:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, for real.

• 31:43Speaker 02

  This is the main character of the, the day.

• 31:45Drew Afualo?

  Amen, I agree.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  And I think it's easy to think that these cameras running and what will go up later is the main character.

• 31:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 31:54Speaker 02

  And, um, I don't know, I just feel embarrassed and like I learned a lot and, um, I just, if I could do a lot of that over, I, I mean, you are younger than me, I just like.

• 32:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, a lot younger.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  A lot younger.

• 32:05Drew Afualo?

  A lot younger, yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Ain't none of it worth, like, that six extra day of filming, like, yeah, like, nothing's really that fierce about that.

• 32:15Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  America's obsessed with productivity.

• 32:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  We're obsessed with, you have value because of what you made, or what you earned, or what you produced. You have value if you do nothing.

• 32:27Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely, yeah, and that's what I said, that's what I was talking about my video, like, I was like, I need to like re-center where I'm getting my validation, I've always gotten it from me. And now I'm getting it from y'all, like, I'm getting it from how you perceive me. Like, I don't believe I'm a good person unless you tell me I'm a good person and that's not fair to me.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:44Drew Afualo?

  Like, I need to step back from that because it's warping how I see myself and that's not fair.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:48Drew Afualo?

  And that's not why I started this, I didn't know this shit was gonna happen, I started doing this because it brought me joy, like, and then when I saw it brought other people joy. It's like a win-win in my head, but now it's turning to, I'm not getting anything out of it, but it's taking everything from me, like, that's how it feels.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, yes, and you start to be like, I mean, everybody's dream is to be self-employed and self-sufficient.

• 33:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  And then you, you sit in your little cage that you built and you have the nerve to complain about how overworked you are.

• 33:14Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  When you're the one who said yes to all that shit.

• 33:15Drew Afualo?

  Exactly, yeah, and it's like. I've had that back and forth conversation with my therapist.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like, this is my fault. I feel spread thin because I took what little talent I have and I spread it so thin. And now, the people who want me to do a good job and watch me.

• 33:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  Are getting the tired, uninspired version of what I do.

• 33:33Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely. And that's why I was like, I can't even, I can't show it for y'all if I can't show it for myself. So I need to like refill my cup. And then I will come back. That's why I was like, I don't want it to be dramatic. Like it's just, I need a break. I need a break, like.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  But can I tell you, people make it dramatic? Like that's, that's, that's, that has to do with people's obsession with work too, which I had for a very long time. And the love spell just broke. All of a sudden I was like, I mean, I don't want to sound whatever, but like last year. I had like more TV shows than I ever had. I was selling, my show was sold out everywhere. My new TV show was out, my music, everything was happening. I was making more money than I ever had. And I actually was like more quote unquote famous than I ever was. And I was more unhappy than I ever was. And it was like, none of this shit. The, the, my idea of what I thought when I, you know what would make me the happiest? If I got this, this and this. None of that even matters.

• 34:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  It matters.

• 34:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  But it is not a substitution for actually feeling good.

• 34:27Drew Afualo?

  But it's not worth losing you, like losing how you feel or like feeling like shit all the time, like. And that's true for me too. Like this year has been a huge year for me. Like I, my book came out, my book was a bestseller. I had a sold out tour. I've never been more busy, more popular, more relevant. Like I've had huge moments all year. I did Forbes, I was on Forbes cover. I was like, I did all these things. And it's funny because like the only thing I can think of that happened this year that truly brought me so much joy. I was like on a cloud for, for weeks was getting engaged. And nobody saw that. That was just me. Like it, that was like mine. You know what I'm saying?

• 35:00Speaker 02

  You didn't see me.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  I was there.

• 35:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  And I have the footage and I'm selling it.

• 35:04Drew Afualo?

  I believe that.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Me with a GoPro like upside down, hanging out of a tree like, got it.

• 35:11Drew Afualo?

  And I had a lot of people ask me like, oh, can you post videos of your proposal? And I was like, there are none. Because it was for me, like that was for me. And so like, that was the only thing I can think of that happened this year that truly brought me so much joy. I like. I was like on cloud nine for a month. Like it was just, I was so happy. I was so like, I felt so like lilting and, and high. And like. When I got the New York Times bestseller, I was very grateful and I was very happy. But that like feeling I was like, well, what's, well, next I gotta do something else. So it was always very like, okay, well, now I have to do the next thing and I now I have to do the next thing and I have to do the next thing. And then I realized like, I'm not even enjoying anything like I'm not, I'm not hap- I'm not like giving myself kudos. I'm not giving myself credit. I'm not even like sitting in the moment and enjoying it.

• 35:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:51Drew Afualo?

  Because I'm so overworked and so stressed and so unhappy.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:55Drew Afualo?

  You know what I'm saying? So like.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  And the people who watch you.

• 35:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Or me or Brittany or Katia or Caleb, like people who I guess like us, where it's like, you know, they, they really get, they like us. They are not, they want good things for us and they want to laugh with us.

• 36:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  They do not want you to feel that way and they're not giving you extra points mentally because you're exhausted.

• 36:17Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  And you also, they can tell.

• 36:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  They can tell.

• 36:21Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  Tell, even if they're not saying it, they can tell.

• 36:24Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  And then we're not even being, I don't wanna be like woo woo, but we're not even being grateful.

• 36:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  Because we're not putting the best thing.

• 36:33Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  We're just trying to get to tomorrow. It's like, just.

• 36:35Drew Afualo?

  Like keep my head above water.

• 36:36Speaker 02

  Give me the scrunchie.

• 36:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  Record, you know what I mean? Like it's like, it's like too much. Like that's not helpful.

• 36:43Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And then I'm, I'm so like, and then I feel like shit because I feel ungrateful. And I've never been more grateful to like do this for a living. And so that's why I was like, I came to that point because it was just like one thing after the other of like, and I, I said this too, like on my other show, but like one of the reasons I left or one of the reasons I, I really was growing resentful was because I'm, I'm tired of people talking about me as if I'm not a real person.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 37:07Drew Afualo?

  Like, I'm sorry, I'm tired of them talking about me as if I'm like a figment of their imagination or I'm like a fun trend. Like I don't like being talked about as if I'm not real. And so like people would talk about me on TikTok like I wasn't real, like they would, and they would fantasize about a new version of me coming and they would say things like, oh, like what if like, can someone be the next Drew? There's only one me bitch. Like, and I, and I made a video once talking about like, when that shit was happening and it was just like compounding on itself. It was just like one thing into the next, into the next of people just discussing what they think are valid reasons to not like me or valid reasons to feel like someone would be better in my position. Like you're talking about me as if I'm not here. Like I don't, like I'm not a real person with like feelings and like.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  And like my account is kind of my house.

• 37:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  You're walking in and being like, this decor is awful. You know what I mean? Like I'm in the room.

• 37:59Drew Afualo?

  I have someone who could decorate this way better. If that that person was here, they would do a way better job.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  And also, like, this is the other thing. I think that the I used to be competitive. I used to feel like if I don't take that job and I see somebody else, if I see another drag queen doing that commercial, I'm gonna shoot myself.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Which is so crazy. And now, other drag queens, other comics, whatever, other DJs, whatever, I'm like, if I don't do it and you do it.

• 38:21Drew Afualo?

  See, period.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  Nothing bad happens. And also, like, fans are like, people, consumers of our content, they have a right to be critical of us.

• 38:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  And I more than ever feel like, then do it. Go buy a shitty blonde wig and a white go-go boot and you do it.

• 38:38Drew Afualo?

  Girl, the amount of times I've been like, take, I literally said, take this mantle from me, bitch. Like, I I promise, I don't need it. Like, you want it, you want to fuck up men? Take it. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, please, get it. And I was like.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  I can only do one at a time.

• 38:51Drew Afualo?

  That's why I said, if if instead of complaining and being and trying to dismantle all the different reasons why I have what I have, why don't you get in the fucking cage with me, bitch? Why don't you fight alongside me? I am by myself. Like, I am literally fighting by myself. I always compare myself, you wouldn't get this reference, but I always compare myself to like the Battle of the Bastards in Game of Thrones. It's Jon Snow by himself, fighting like an army of like a thousand. That's how I feel. And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, I could use some help. I would love if you could come and join alongside. Take it. I don't want it anymore. Like, I I have.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  My edges need to grow back.

• 39:21Drew Afualo?

  Girl, and my eyelashes at the same time. Otherwise, I'm gonna end up like her. Is that what you want?

• 39:26Speaker 02

  Bald as hell. Damn. Disfranchised.

• 39:30Drew Afualo?

  I literally, I said to, I'm like, I did not invent that. I didn't invent making fun of men. I didn't invent feminism. I and I said, like, the unique thing about me is fucking me. It's me, bitch. Like, I was like, you could make fun of men all goddamn day. That doesn't mean you're gonna get what I have. Because the secret is me. I'm hilarious. That's why I said, I'm objectively funny. That's why, that's why it worked for me. That's why. You know what I mean? That's what caught people's attention. So I was like, I don't, I'm sick of being discussed. Like, I'm just like something new, like a new fad. I'm like, also, I've been here forever. Pick a new one. Like, what the fuck? I've been on TikTok for fucking ever.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Go fuck with Brittany. She could take it.

• 40:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, girl. Get her ass.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Get her. Go go comfort Caleb. I dare you. I dare you.

• 40:16Drew Afualo?

  The amount of times I've said that, because a lot of times, and I'm sure you get this too, especially because we're all friends, but they're like, oh, my God, like, if I hung out with you guys, like, you would love me.

• 40:25Speaker 02

  I'm like, we would bury you.

• 40:28Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes I'm like, girl, you think you're, you think, if you think you have thick skin, you gotta spend time. I said this with Brittany. Brittany spent the night at my house with me with my sister. And I was like, she said they would incinerate if they were in a room with Caleb and Trixie. And I was like, I agree. I was like, I fucking agree. I was like, Bob, Bob's a great one, too.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 40:49Drew Afualo?

  You think, you think, oh, they would love me.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  We would, but like, I don't know if you could take what our version of love is.

• 40:55Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying. That's my point. I said, you guys don't know what that feels like. And I said that because I have so many drag meets on my show because I'm a cunt, just like they are. That's why they like me. We get along really well. We have a lot in common.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  I know.

• 41:06Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I can take a joke. That's why.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  We were in a group chat right now, and it was like, it was like me, you, Brittany and Drew. And Brittany just responded, can somebody tell Caleb something? Because, because we're not speaking right now.

• 41:18Drew Afualo?

  He's like, can you please communicate to Caleb that I will be there?

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Stupid. You're gonna have a great break. I just, I caution you to be protective of, you know, during my break, it started as a break, and then people were like, well, you have a couple of shows in the middle. And you do have to do this, you know, I'm gonna tell you something, and this is like no tea, this is no tea to anybody who works for me, around me, or works for you, around you.

• 41:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  People who make money off you and need you to help them make money, it's not their job to tell you where the boundary is.

• 41:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Speaker 02

  And so then it's almost like we get mad of like my, whoever's making me, nobody's making you.

• 41:51Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 41:52Speaker 02

  We said yes, and now we're complaining that we have to do what we said we were gonna do. And it's not even a cute look to be like, everybody needs me. It's like, mm, you said you would do it.

• 42:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's one of those, it's like autonomy is important to admit. Like, you, you chose to do that, which is my thing, too. My team advised me to take a break last year, like, end of last year. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, like, I can't do that. Like, I was very resistant to it. I was like, I can't do that. I can't do that. Like, the thought of not working makes me feel worse than I do when I'm working. And I, at least I thought it did, and I felt pretty fucked. Fucking awful like working. So I was like, no, I can't do that. I can't do that. So this time it was my idea like to take my little mini break. And I told them and they were all like, oh, well, that's so great. I'm so glad. Like they were like, thank God. Like I don't have to give it. Cause last year I felt like I was like, like to everyone, cause I was just in such a bad mood. I was just so irritable.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 42:46Drew Afualo?

  And then I feel like shit because I'm like, I'm the best version of myself when I'm working. And then when I'm home with the people who love me and know me in real life. I'm a shell of a human. I'm like not a real person or I'm irritable or I'm upset or whatever. You know what I mean?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. And and then like, you know, LA and work entertainment too. It is like a, it's like a spell and it's like a bubble. And when you get out of here, you're like.

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• 44:12Speaker 02

  Do I want to go back? Like, like when I go home to Milwaukee, I love Milwaukee so much. I'm always like, do I live here full time now? Oh my God, I gotta go home. You know, it takes like two days of access to like noodles and company for me to be like.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Should I just stay here?

• 44:26Drew Afualo?

  I don't know. Should I just fuck it all?

• 44:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, should I become a bartender at my own bar and just get a lot of noodles and company? That's kind of fun. I don't know.

• 44:34Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's another reason why I think taking breaks are a good idea because you, you know, like, don't grow so resentful towards the job that you actually really love.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  That you love and you're lucky.

• 44:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so lucky. Yeah, that's how I think all the time. So I'm like, I just need to remind myself of. And even when I invite people over, like when I have game nights and stuff, I don't invite you because you never text me back, but.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  I'm usually out of town working.

• 44:58Drew Afualo?

  That's true. And maybe you're not so much anymore.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  Well, no, I am, January. I'm not doing any live shows in January.

• 45:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 45:05Speaker 02

  So let's do something. Can we hang out?

• 45:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. We said, we've been saying this for months with Brittany, but we said we're gonna get high and go to Dave and Buster's.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Conti.

• 45:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, right.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Very conti.

• 45:13Drew Afualo?

  I know you said you're trying to wean off.

• 45:15Speaker 02

  I just can do like a little. Otherwise, I get freaked out.

• 45:18Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  Like, the old me could like not get anxious. The old me could watch a sad movie and not cry too hard. The new me is just, everything's too raw. Everything's too like, I don't know. I think it's too much therapy and now everything hits.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Everyone's like, oh, I got you this gift. I'm like, you're dead. Somebody comes over to my house and brings a bottle of wine. I'm like, fuck.

• 45:39Drew Afualo?

  Fuck. So sweet.

• 45:40Speaker 02

  By the way, I brought you a gift. I got you this, this is a flash drive with just like an hour mix on it I made.

• 45:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh, thank you. Your own work. I appreciate it. Thank you.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  I did a little disco candle.

• 45:51Drew Afualo?

  This is so cute. Thank you. So this is very trixie.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Well, I'm always like, everybody I'm friends with is like, they can buy themselves whatever they want. Someone's like, what can I give that's like semi one of a kind?

• 45:59Drew Afualo?

  Right. I love this.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  So I bought those on Amazon, so they're one of a kind.

• 46:03Drew Afualo?

  Obviously. They're not, they're not mass-produced in any way, shape or form.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  I stoned that.

• 46:09Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much. This is so sweet.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  You know what I've been doing? I'm obsessed with this. I love to candles, to do the candles. And then on TikTok, I saw you can pour the hot water and clean out all the wax.

• 46:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:18Speaker 02

  So now I got all these empty candle jars. No plan. So I just get all these candle jars and I'm just like, ooh. Like, I just, I stand next to them. I just like feel their power of what they could be.

• 46:28Drew Afualo?

  The possibilities are endless.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  I know. I'm like, house keys in there. Loose change. Haven't done anything yet.

• 46:33Drew Afualo?

  You could sing No Good Deed around them.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm like, P jar, P jar, P jar, whatever. You just got it. It's gonna be a great break for you and I encourage you at some point to actually just like, it was so replenishing. I came back so in love with Dragon and love with making people laugh.

• 46:48Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  It made me feel like the years preceding the break, I can't believe how much I struggled with it. And now I'm like, oh. It's not, it's, working yourself to death is not that fierce.

• 47:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and it doesn't, it doesn't ever work out. It's like never a good idea, like ever. Even when I talked, when I had Alana Glazer on.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:07Drew Afualo?

  When she was telling me, I'm so glad you're taking a break. She told me, like, she kind of took a break when she had her baby. And she was telling me, I think it's important. I tell other people in the industry all the time, you should take breaks. Because it helps refill you or re-inspire you.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 47:21Drew Afualo?

  She was like, and I told her, I was like, that's so true. Cause then you, you, the well runs dry. And then you start growing resentful because you're like, I don't have anything more to give you. Like I've given you everything. I don't have anything else. And then you start growing resentful towards the job. You start growing resentful towards people and then you don't feel inspired anymore. Like, you're bored almost.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. And Katya and I were talking about like, Katya and I right now, our focus has been quality over quantity.

• 47:43Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  We love opportunities and we love money, but um, we've been like, let's just make things like our pod and Netflix. Our own little things where we sit in a wig and talk.

• 47:54Drew Afualo?

  And they bring us joy.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  They're, they're fun and like, let's make them just really good. And the way to make them really good is to go in like really. Like sometimes I go in to film with her and if we haven't filmed together in a while, I, it's like, I'm, I'm, I'm so edged.

• 48:09Speaker 02

  I can't wait to show up in a wig and start screaming. Like I, I just like, ah. And that's the feeling you want. It's so hard when, I think of when I was making like Trixie Mattel or Queen of the Universe and I was doing these TV shows back to back. And doing YouTube and doing like that type of stuff.

• 48:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  I would go into set and be like, oh, I'm gonna do this today. Oh my gosh.

• 48:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Yeah, same.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  That's not cute. That's actually, it's kind of like going to work in, out of uniform. Like our job is to show up ready to share something hilarious and fun.

• 48:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And then when they're like, make sure you have fun. Make sure you have, and then I'm always like.

• 48:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a little.

• 48:41Drew Afualo?

  Get out of my face.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  I hate preparing, but also it's a little like cramming.

• 48:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Cramming versus real studying.

• 48:47Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 48:47Speaker 02

  It's a difference.

• 48:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you don't really understand it. You've just memorized it.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:52Speaker 02

  It's like Katya and I was like, what have you been up to? I don't know. I've seen you every day this week.

• 48:56Drew Afualo?

  Oh, since the last time I saw you, which was 14 hours ago?

• 48:58Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:59Drew Afualo?

  Um, not much.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  What do you want to know about my Uber Eats order? Can I ask you a question? Now you probably won't want me to go.

• 49:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, please do.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  Everybody always wants me to leave podcasts and I'm, I, my own podcast, I'm like, are we done? Other people's, I'm like, you're all staying.

• 49:12Drew Afualo?

  We're fine. If you're fine, I'm fine.

• 49:14Speaker 02

  I have a couple of things that I've been asking everybody.

• 49:16Drew Afualo?

  Please do.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  One of them is, okay, if you were gonna quit this job today and you were gonna open a couple fast food restaurants as your little franchises.

• 49:23Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 49:24Speaker 02

  Taco John's, whatever.

• 49:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  Which ones would you, if you were gonna be like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna try to make it good. I wanna be able to eat there for free. I wanna employ my friends there. Which fast food? And I think a lot of them count.

• 49:35Drew Afualo?

  Is it like an existing one? Or anyone? Or just like a theme?

• 49:39Speaker 02

  I would say Subway.

• 49:41Drew Afualo?

  T.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Cause I think if I, I love Taco Bell, but I think if I saw how it was made, I would get turned off.

• 49:45Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  And I think like sub sandwiches.

• 49:47Drew Afualo?

  Behind the green curtain.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 49:49Drew Afualo?

  You know?

• 49:49Speaker 02

  Sub sandwiches, I think like, I get what that is. It's bread, there's no reveal.

• 49:54Drew Afualo?

  And meat.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  They make it in front of you.

• 49:55Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  You know?

• 49:56Drew Afualo?

  That's, okay, that's a good idea. Um, maybe I would do something like a Chipotle.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  I, I think that's a good one too.

• 50:01Drew Afualo?

  I think that would be a good one, cause then it's choose your own adventure. But also, you're watching it be made.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:07Drew Afualo?

  I think I would kill out of Chipotle.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  I have another question.

• 50:11Drew Afualo?

  Please do.

• 50:11Speaker 02

  What would you do if you won eighty-six million dollars?

• 50:13Drew Afualo?

  Eighty-six million dollars?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  From the state of California lottery.

• 50:16Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, fuck off. I would fuck off into the wilderness like you did. I'd shave my head bald.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  Float.

• 50:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 50:22Speaker 02

  Just float.

• 50:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh yeah, I'd shave my head bald and start serving at your bar.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  Do you think you would keep performing?

• 50:27Drew Afualo?

  Um.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, right?

• 50:29Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, yeah, probably. Like realistically, yeah, I'd probably still keep doing what I'm doing, but I, I would have way less pressure on me as far as like, but imagine me winning the lottery, that would be such a dick move.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  No, can I?

• 50:39Drew Afualo?

  Cause I'm obviously gonna take the money, but like, you know?

• 50:42Speaker 02

  You're gonna, well, they take.

• 50:43Drew Afualo?

  It's gonna be frowned upon, cause everybody knows me.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  They take forty percent, you know?

• 50:46Drew Afualo?

  I know, I've heard.

• 50:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:47Drew Afualo?

  And sometimes more, depending on the state.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  You're getting eight bucks.

• 50:49Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  Make it last.

• 50:50Drew Afualo?

  Okay. Then I'll go to your Subway.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, hell yeah. Five dollar foot long. And I only ask because on my break and I came back and I thought about it a lot. If you want all the money you and everyone you love could ever need.

• 51:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 51:04Speaker 02

  You would still do this.

• 51:06Drew Afualo?

  Probably.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  And so at the end of the day, putting in that 12 hour for another paycheck.

• 51:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  You would do this for free.

• 51:13Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  I was like.

• 51:14Drew Afualo?

  Not you therapizing me.

• 51:15Speaker 02

  Seriously, I just, Kati and I were talking about, I was like, I used to make 40 or less dollars doing drag.

• 51:20Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  I was as happy.

• 51:22Drew Afualo?

  That's actually so true. Me too.

• 51:25Speaker 02

  So ultimately, it's like so much of this is about the money or whatever, but if you had all the money and you didn't need the money, you would still do this.

• 51:31Drew Afualo?

  That's so true.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  Think of all those housewives, they don't need this fucking Bravo money.

• 51:36Drew Afualo?

  They sure as hell don't.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  They show up and fucking destroy each other for play money.

• 51:40Drew Afualo?

  For fun.

• 51:41Speaker 02

  For bags, for buying bags.

• 51:43Drew Afualo?

  That's girlhood, that's why.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:46Drew Afualo?

  But okay, we'll rap, we'll rap now since, well, your manager wants you to leave.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  Oh, we have to go, well, we were doing Monet's podcast today.

• 51:53Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I love her, we love her. We just had her on as an all-star too.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  She's so funny, she's so pretty.

• 51:58Drew Afualo?

  I know, she kills me. And she came in two foot things, like casts.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  Oh, because she just had a surgery.

• 52:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, her, on her feet, both her feet.

• 52:06Speaker 02

  Oh, now, now the straight people are all doing those, the gays are all getting the foot slimming surgery. Look at the tiny foot diva.

• 52:13Drew Afualo?

  No, she literally was like, my dog, I can't do anything but, you know, like my autonomy, I can't not do my own thing. So today I drove myself. I go, you thought the one thing you should risk is driving?

• 52:23Speaker 02

  Which is specifically this.

• 52:24Drew Afualo?

  For your feet? Okay. I was like, no, yeah, I was showering, someone can help me, but driving, I can do that myself with two broken feet.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Do you drive?

• 52:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  I'm getting my license again.

• 52:35Drew Afualo?

  Did you lose it?

• 52:36Speaker 02

  It expired in 2016 and I've just been so busy. So.

• 52:41Drew Afualo?

  Doing what?

• 52:41Speaker 02

  Floating, floating apparently.

• 52:43Drew Afualo?

  Floating in the Martian.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  So I'm going to get another license and my dream next year, this is a little crazy, but my new dream is I would love to go on a, um, like an RV trip.

• 52:51Drew Afualo?

  That sounds fun.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  And maybe even.

• 52:53Drew Afualo?

  You, me, Brittany and Caleb should go.

• 52:54Speaker 02

  Okay, now I'm going to stop you right there. Us, us, who's driving?

• 52:58Drew Afualo?

  We wouldn't even make it out of that.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  We make it one day. We make it to Pomona, California.

• 53:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it would be real like, what's that, the Griswolds? You know what I mean? Like, but we should make Caleb drive.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  I think he. Well, I think all of you be good drivers.

• 53:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm a, I'm a good driver. I just don't like driving.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  Right.

• 53:15Drew Afualo?

  So I refuse to, not it.

• 53:17Speaker 02

  I hate driving.

• 53:18Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 53:19Speaker 02

  But I, but sometimes like I get groceries delivered from Gelson's and I'm like, I could have driven to get that.

• 53:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think that too, but I'm like, well.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  If Beyonce can go to Target, I can go to Gelson's.

• 53:29Drew Afualo?

  Right, absolutely. You could, you should.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  What'd you do if you saw Beyonce at Target?

• 53:33Drew Afualo?

  Shit myself, probably. I've met her though, so I met her this year. See another thing I did this year.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 53:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  At the Target?

• 53:40Drew Afualo?

  Not the Target.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 53:41Drew Afualo?

  But I did shit myself.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  You met Beyonce?

• 53:43Drew Afualo?

  At an all white party, can you believe it? Shart up my back like a toddler.

• 53:48Drew Afualo?

  When I walked out, I backed out of the room so she wouldn't have to see my shart. But yeah, no, she was wonderful. She was amazing. Me and Brittany met her together.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  I could go now.

• 53:59Drew Afualo?

  All of a sudden, she doesn't want to be here anymore.

• 54:01Speaker 02

  All of a sudden, I'm afraid of.

• 54:02Drew Afualo?

  She chained herself to the chair earlier, but all of a sudden.

• 54:06Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 54:07Drew Afualo?

  I love you. Uh, last thing, uh, what are your New Year's resolutions, if you have any?

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, this is huge if true.

• 54:14Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  My new thing is, um, okay, you can't be more concerned than the people it concerns. You will give yourself gut rot being like, doesn't Miss Thing know that she blank, blank, blank, or my friend who doesn't, doesn't, is it? You, you can't lose more sleep over their poor decisions than they do.

• 54:33Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  It's the circular.

• 54:34Drew Afualo?

  My friend Tiffy calls it blocking someone's lessons when you worry about them so much, more than they worry.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  Blocking their lessons.

• 54:40Drew Afualo?

  You're blocking their lessons.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  Good luck with your lesson, hoe. Like, that's so fucked.

• 54:44Drew Afualo?

  That's a lesson for you, not for me. I love that.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  And what are we bringing into 2025?

• 54:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, what vibes are we bringing?

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Oh, recycled clothing, like, um,

• 54:52Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  Like secondhand, thrifting, taking clothes you have, making new clothes from the clothes you have. This year I've been really into, um, using less things. We need less things. I feel bad because I sell makeup on the internet, but the truth is, we don't need much.

• 55:07Drew Afualo?

  Right. You're turning into Marie Kondo.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  We don't need much.

• 55:09Drew Afualo?

  You're literally, and next time I see you, you're gonna be the little old woman who lived in a shoe.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  Totally. Now I think at Trixie Cosmetics, when you buy a lipstick, I'm gonna come to your house and make you get rid of one. So like, you don't need that.

• 55:19Drew Afualo?

  Which one of these sparks joy?

• 55:20Speaker 02

  Right.

• 55:21Drew Afualo?

  That's the one we keep.

• 55:22Speaker 02

  If you buy one of my products, please let it replace one that, that you know is expired.

• 55:26Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  We all have those lip products where like, is this good? And it smells like kerosene and you're like, it's cute though.

• 55:32Drew Afualo?

  Just in the middle, just in the middle.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  Anyway, you don't need too much stuff. That's my main thing now is like, we need to buy so much shit.

• 55:39Drew Afualo?

  I love that. That's a great idea. That's a great resolution to have. I think mine is to continue to prioritize myself as much as I prioritize others. Like my new year's resolution is to keep me top of mine, too.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  Love.

• 55:52Drew Afualo?

  Not just everyone else. Look at us.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Fuck those people.

• 55:54Drew Afualo?

  Oh, we're so grown now. We're just becoming women.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Last year, we were awful.

• 55:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 55:59Speaker 02

  But now.

• 55:59Drew Afualo?

  Now we've had our blood.

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Okay, bye.

• 56:05Drew Afualo?

  Thank you all so much for tuning into this amazing All-Star episode featuring the wonderful and fabulous and enlightened Trixie Mattel. Obviously, all of the people who follow me know you, but just in case they don't, where can they find you?

• 56:16Speaker 02

  I'm pretty much everywhere, at Trixie or at Trixie Mattel. And I have a YouTube where I upload every week. We have Bald and Beautiful Podcast. And this year, Salping Disco is going all over Australia, America, UK, and Europe. So come.

• 56:27Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  Put on pink, put on a blonde wig and some pink and shake your ass drunk.

• 56:31Drew Afualo?

  And that's an order.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  That's an order.

• 56:34Drew Afualo?

  Thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget that new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing All-Star guest, Trixie Mattel. Make sure you all follow her. You already fucking do, but go see her doing whatever she's doing next year. It's gonna be, or this year, it's gonna be amazing. But thank you all so much for joining us and I'll see you next week. Bye.

• 57:55Speaker 05

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