Randy Moss on Cowboys Revenge Game, Edelnut Origins, Wideout Woes & an All Dog NFL Team | EP 181

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The wrongs we must right, the fights we must win, the future we must secure together for our nation. This is what's in front of us. This determines what's next for all of us. We are Marines. We were made for this.

• 0:20Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our partner Royal Caribbean. Dude, have you seen this? Royal Caribbean just dropped The Legend of the Seas. It's the biggest cruise ship on the planet. Like, nothing's even close to being this big. And it's sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, starting this November.

• 0:38Speaker 02

  That's right. This thing is stacked. Seven pools, more places to eat than you can even count. I mean, they have something for everybody.

• 0:47Travis Kelce?

  Like, bring the kids, bring mom and dad, shoot, bring the whole crew. Everybody's got a spot. That's what makes it special.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  And the entertainment, Latin music, ice skating, full-on Broadway shows. It's pretty amazing. Pretty much everything you want in one place. Oh, and did I mention there's a water park?

• 1:04Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

• 1:06Speaker 02

  I love a water park.

• 1:07Travis Kelce?

  But the crazy one? Crown's Edge, a ropes course off the side of the ship, not for the faint of heart, brother.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  They've also got Playmaker Sports Bar and Arcade, so that means games on every screen. I love a good arcade sports place combination.

• 1:25Travis Kelce?

  All right, Captain, get the family on the new Legend of the Seas, sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 1:33Speaker 02

  Visit royalcaribbean.com to learn more.

• 1:37Travis Kelce?

  Thank you to our sponsor, Colgate Total.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  On offense, it's important to prevent problems from the moment the ball is snapped.

• 1:44Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise, you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 1:55Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  My mouth specifically?

• 1:59Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Right. Yeah, all the nasty stuff. But the good news is you can prevent these problems before they start with Colgate Total Active Prevention. It's like having a good offensive line for your mouth.

• 2:21Travis Kelce?

  Ooh, exactly. With twice daily brushing, Colgate Total prevents oral health problems like cavities and gingivitis.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  And it's not just one contributing player either. It's a whole system. Toothpaste, mouthwash, and a special toothbrush.

• 2:36Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 2:39Speaker 02

  Colgate Total is like having a full playbook in your bathroom, working to help prevent oral health problems before they start.

• 2:47Travis Kelce?

  Get Colgate Total on Amazon today.

• 2:50Speaker 03

  Jason, when it was time for you to call it quits, what's the number one thing in your mind you knew you were going to miss about the game?

• 2:58Speaker 02

  I knew I was going to miss competing. You see, is Ellie in the background?

• 3:02Travis Kelce?

  This is so funny.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Do you go upstairs, girl? No? Why not?

• 3:09Speaker 03

  Is that the oldest one?

• 3:10Speaker 02

  This is my second. You say hi? You say hi to the greatest receiver ever to play football? Say hi to Randy Moss. Are you guys going to go by it right now?

• 3:19Speaker 04

  Hi, Randy Moss.

• 3:23Travis Kelce?

  So epic.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Hello sweetheart, how are you?

• 3:28Travis Kelce?

  Oh, that was gold, man.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  Bye. Man.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, okay, okay.

• 3:37Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 3:43Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to New Heights. A Wondery Show brought to you by Expedia, the one place you go to go places. You can go anywhere and it helps you figure out everything else to do while you're on the go. And it's where you go to do that. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey and my big brother Jason Kelce out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, representing the U.S. of A. Again, subscribe on YouTube, 12+, wherever you get your podcasts, follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. We got a bunch of fun clips throughout the week and that's where I like to watch the show is the fun clips. So make sure you follow us on all social media and Jason is now going to tell the people that are listening to this show what we have coming up.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  190%ers, we got another amazing episode for you guys. Spawning to some of your fan mentions and we're also going to build an NFL roster entirely out of dogs.

• 4:33Travis Kelce?

  Ooh.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Oh. Randy Moss is here. That's right, baby.

• 4:37Travis Kelce?

  You got Moss.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  That's right. That's right.

• 4:41Travis Kelce?

  Straight cash, homie.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Before we get into that, let's get into a little bit of that new news.

• 4:46Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, new news.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  New news. We are pre-taping this one. I'm sorry. No real new news. Currently, we're on location grabbing some incredible guest conversation. Uh, not saying who it is, but we might be one of the goats of a sport that you love.

• 5:01Travis Kelce?

  Ooh.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, um, I guess that's the new news.

• 5:04Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. All right. Nice. Let's keep this thing moving into fan mentions. Fan mentions is brought to you by one of our favorite drinks of all time. I think Ed Kelsey might be one of the top buyers of this drink, at least the diet version. Uh, it's brought to you by Pepsi. Shout out to Pepsi. All right. Here, uh, NFL put out the NFL Combine then and nows. How about that? Look at these pictures. Golly, I was so fat.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  You were fat? You're not fat in this photo. It kinda, it's not a, not the best photo, but.

• 5:32Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. The old straight on where you could see the double chin.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  How much did you weigh in that photo?

• 5:37Travis Kelce?

  I was a good 268, I think. I'm not sure. What was my combine hide and weight? I was 6'3", 7'8", so I think I was like 258 or something like that.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  You're 6'4" and, uh, 7'8".

• 5:48Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, 6'4", 7'8". Yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:51Travis Kelce?

  Either way.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  Just 7'6" five.

• 5:53Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  Oh, man. Did you scroll down and look further?

• 5:57Travis Kelce?

  Jesus, Jason, you forget the trimmer. Why do you look so different? Why is your nose so fucking thin?

• 6:04Speaker 02

  Crooked? Dude, I look horrendous.

• 6:08Travis Kelce?

  Why do you look like this?

• 6:10Speaker 02

  I don't know. I look like I'm gonna get stopped at TSA.

• 6:13Travis Kelce?

  Picture back in the day, but that's not my brother.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  That guy's getting strip searched for sure.

• 6:17Travis Kelce?

  It's like the NFL purposely tries to get the most unflattering pictures of rookies.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  I don't know that would've mattered what angle they got of me. I think I was just an ugly son of a bitch.

• 6:27Travis Kelce?

  You really grew into being a nice handsome boy. So handsome. Look at you on the right there. You're all golden. Get some sun. You've been at the shore.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 6:37Travis Kelce?

  Yes.

• 6:38Speaker 02

  Those pictures are always taken in the heat of summer. That first one I left is February.

• 6:44Travis Kelce?

  February in Cincinnati, training for the job of your life. Did you see the other guys they put out?

• 6:50Speaker 02

  No.

• 6:50Travis Kelce?

  I'll run through them real quick. Hold on.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  Who else we got? Ooh, Josh Allen.

• 6:55Travis Kelce?

  Jay Allen don't look too bad. Smooth cat right there.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  No, looks more artistic now.

• 7:00Travis Kelce?

  Similar.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  Exactly the same. Don't see any difference at all.

• 7:03Travis Kelce?

  Young King Henry.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  Jetta.

• 7:04Travis Kelce?

  Young Jetta.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  A Raj, not much difference. Kind of has a Lloyd Christmas. Go back. The Lloyd Christmas going on there.

• 7:11Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, the straight across.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  I mean, it's kind of looks similar. All right. All right. What do we got next? What do we got next?

• 7:18Travis Kelce?

  This guy will never age. He'll look like this until he's fucking 90 years old.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  I think you're right. I think you're right. Burrow.

• 7:25Travis Kelce?

  Burrow. I mean, I feel like Joey Burrow, yeah, just again, another guy that probably trained up north, didn't get a lot of sun. Second one, a little bit more sun. CMC, another guy's gonna look the exact same until he's fucking 90 years old.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Kind of look like a military cadet.

• 7:41Travis Kelce?

  Oh, Patty Mahomes. Patty Mahomes, uh, still looks the same. Still looks the same.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  Big difference.

• 7:48Travis Kelce?

  Looks like he's got a billion dollar smile, though. He's, uh,

• 7:53Speaker 02

  Much happier.

• 7:54Travis Kelce?

  Much happier man in Adidas gear now than he was in Under Armour back then.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  Baker.

• 8:00Travis Kelce?

  They still, yeah, they look pretty similar.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  Beard's better now.

• 8:04Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Oh, that boy. George has just been growing his hair ever since. He's just hasn't stopped growing his hair.

• 8:13Travis Kelce?

  Gee, kiddo, man, what a dude. Fucking love that guy. Oh, shit. Nice. All right. Well, good. Nice. Glad we glad we looked different.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  There's one thing for sure is that at the combine, they take the most unflattering angle and lighting picture they possibly can.

• 8:27Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, especially.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Boost that morale.

• 8:29Travis Kelce?

  For us pale, wet in the winter, uh, kind of guys. Yeah.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  Yes. Let's move on to everyone loving Jason's content creator.

• 8:38Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah, you are. I'm telling you, you're fucking crushing it with the content right now.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:43Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Click this link real quick, Brandon.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  I think Jason Kelce is quickly becoming one of my favorite follows on TikTok because everything he posts, it just kind of feels like either a grandpa decided to record a video and maybe did it on accident.

• 9:00Speaker 05

  And posted it or a toddler took his mom's phone and is running around filming everything and just posting it without editing it. Like his last video I saw was him just like taking the subway. That's it.

• 9:14Travis Kelce?

  It's like those progressive commercials where it's like you're slowly turning into your parents and they're trying not to let you do it.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  I mean, I feel like a grandpa using TikTok. I really do not get it one bit.

• 9:24Travis Kelce?

  You've got to be a special, like, to be really, like, good at it, you got to be a special version of person, I think. And you are, you're a very special version of somebody. You're authentic and that's what people fucking love the most about you in terms of the content you create. I'm not gonna lie. I'm right there with them, dude. I fucking die laughing at everything you do, whether it's riding the subway or creating a garage beer commercial about, about beer powder.

• 9:58Travis Kelce?

  It's fucking gold, man.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  The subway was fun. It was a great subway. I thought it was a fun video. I don't know.

• 10:02Travis Kelce?

  Then it was fun and you knew exactly what you were doing. You knew what the people wanted out of you.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Kylie was like, will you fucking stop? Like, if you have any idea how long it took me to make that dumbass video?

• 10:15Travis Kelce?

  That's the one thing I'll always feel so fucking dumb, man. There was a, there was a point early on in my career when like the reels and everything really started getting going and I, I would make them and then I wouldn't make them and then I would just do one because I felt like I had to keep it going. And then it was just, there were so many like stories that I just felt were so pointless and some of the shit I was doing was so pointless. I just felt dumb doing it. And you're clearly having a blast with it. It's the best, dude. Not feeling dumb is like one of your superpowers.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Oh no. I mean, I feel dumb all the time. I feel dumb wearing this hat right now.

• 10:52Travis Kelce?

  It looks great.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Just embraced it.

• 10:54Travis Kelce?

  From our New Heights Reddit page. Our fantasy forfeit this year. All right, recreating the GQ shoot for a calendar. This is fucking hilarious.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  I mean, that's fucking pretty damn good.

• 11:05Travis Kelce?

  I mean, he's got a fucking dumb pat.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, man, that's he's got the head till all of it.

• 11:10Travis Kelce?

  He's got the chest hair. He's got the gut. He's got the sloppy tits. He's fucking great, dude.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Very nice. Very nicely done. No AI allowed. Love that. We're based in Glasgow, Scotland.

• 11:21Travis Kelce?

  Oh, Scotland. Nice.

• 11:23Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 11:24Travis Kelce?

  Dude, to try and find somewhere in Scotland that resembled that.

• 11:28Speaker 02

  Looks like Florida.

• 11:29Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, exactly. That's pretty good right there.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Well done. Very well done. All righty. And yeah, I got a shout out from The Simpsons. How about this, Tran?

• 11:36Travis Kelce?

  What? No, I did not. Can you please?

• 11:39Speaker 02

  I mean, I didn't get a shout out. They just like mentioned my existence, which.

• 11:42Travis Kelce?

  That's a shout out in my book. That's a shout out in my book. We fucking grew up in the heart of The Simpsons, man. Not that it's not still the heart of The Simpsons because they're still rolling, but.

• 12:02Travis Kelce?

  Nice, dude. You're just gonna have random people coming up to you trying to fucking yank your beard off?

• 12:06Speaker 02

  If it's Marge or anybody with The Simpsons or yeah, I'm in.

• 12:10Travis Kelce?

  That's pretty good right there.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  All right, that does it for fan mentions brought to you by Pepsi.

• 12:15Travis Kelce?

  All right, let's get into this Randy Moss interview, baby. Straight cash, homie.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  I've never been more excited. Here we go.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  Our guest today is six foot four wide receiver from Rand, West Virginia. He's a four time All-Pro, six time Pro Bowler, the 1998 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and the 2007 Comeback Player of the Year. He holds the record for the most receiving touchdowns in a single season. He's second all time in career touchdowns, fourth all time in career receiving yards, and he is a member of the 2018 class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

• 12:50Travis Kelce?

  Just a legend.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  We didn't pay him to come on our show, but if we did, we'd be using straight cash, homie. That's right.

• 12:58Travis Kelce?

  Straight cash, homie. Let's go.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Ninety-two percenters, please welcome Randy Moss.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Hey, what's up fellas? Thanks for having me, man. You crazy dude. You got me ready to play again.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Let's get, that's all I'm trying to do. Get them juices wrapped up.

• 13:16Travis Kelce?

  You know, you could go out there and break somebody off, man. You already know. Just throw it up, baby. Just throw it up.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Thanks for having me on, guys. Man, I, I know y'all got the number one podcast out there and, you know, I really don't, I really, I really don't do many podcasts, right? But when I, but, but, but y'all, y'all too, the brothers, the realness of what y'all done put on the field and off the field. Yeah, I gotta come and show y'all some love, man. So thanks for having me on.

• 13:39Travis Kelce?

  That's why you're the realest, big guy. We can't thank you enough. You already know, you're an absolute legend in, in the NFL and even more so just being you. Everybody has seen the personality kind of come out since the NFL. Um, and it's just, it's so cool to have you on this show with us, man, because you are, you guys, the, the legends that we grew up watching and everything, getting you guys on this show is like taking me back to my childhood and like I'm living out a dream I didn't even know was possible, man. So I appreciate you joining us today, brother.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  It's the personality off the field, like the, the entire essence of Randy Moss. I mean, you are the greatest highlight player in the history of the NFL. Like, is there anybody else that has better highlights than Randy Moss? There's an entire catch. Anytime somebody goes up and gets it.

• 14:25Travis Kelce?

  You got Moss.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  If you're talking about my position, no, but if you're talking about players that ever played the game, I mean, I, I think, I think Barry Sanders was a human highlight reel, but, but, you know, you're talking about my position. No, um, but, but at the same, but at the same time, guys, you know, just, just being able to stay grounded, keep myself grounded. And it's, it's, it was really about the work you put in, you know? And, uh, you know, a lot of people, you know, don't really understand my background in the, the sport of basketball. And, and the thing that I've always tried to tell people, Jason, was that, and Trav, you, you, I've seen it in your game.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  In the field of play, you know, where you have fifty, sixty, seventy yards to go before you score, that's when I use my quickness, you know, my elusiveness and my speed. But once you get down to the red zone, it's all about boxing out, body placement, going up and get the rebound. So that's where I put the game of basketball into my game. And that's where, that's why I say if, if you put in the hard work, then hard work pays off. So like I say, the plays that I make, hey, I put the work in to be able to make those plays.

• 15:37Travis Kelce?

  We can't talk hoops without talking about your West Virginia days in high school, rocking with Jason Williams, man.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:45Travis Kelce?

  Legendary duo. Growing up, did you guys both know that you guys had like something special that both of you were gonna go pro in, in your respective sports?

• 15:55Speaker 03

  Me and Jason, like a quick short story. Jason, while we were in elementary school, we, we played, I think, two years of Pop Warner against one another. And Jason was a phenomenal football player, phenomenal athlete. And every sport that I played, Jason played, or every sport he played, I played. The only sport Jason really didn't play or, or do was track. As far as baseball, basketball, and football, you know, he excelled at all three of the sports just like I did. You're talking about honorable mentions, all conference, and things like that. Jason was that type of athlete. But I think he got kind of discouraged my sophomore year, his junior year, where the quarterback was already sort of in place

• 16:37Speaker 03

  so he could really focus on basketball. So that was like Jason's last year of playing football was his 11th grade year, or his 10th grade year. So we played AAU basketball. We, we, we traveled the country with one another. But I think the, the craziest moment for me was just playing against a lot of these former NBA players that we played against in middle school and in high school. And then, of course, that I branched off and made it to the NFL. But just seeing some of the guys that we played against in AAU excel on, on a professional level. So that was kind of like some, some crazy surreal moments at, at the same time.

• 17:11Travis Kelce?

  That's so dope, man. It's awesome. It's awesome. You were talking about the crossover. Guys like Devonte Adams talks about how in his routes, he's, he's, he's thinking as if he's like On the court. A ball handler on the court.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  Right.

• 17:23Travis Kelce?

  And his quickness and And how he how he switches up his tempo to make it seem more effective and more fluent. And it's awesome to hear you say that because I think a lot of guys get caught up in high school and and even younger parents are trying to get them to just focus on one sport.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  They specialize too.

• 17:41Travis Kelce?

  Me and Jason are huge on a big advocates on making sure you get out there, play all the sports, get get an understanding of the hand eye and all all these different sports and not focus on them until until after, I don't know, middle school or high school or whichever one you choose to prolong in college.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  There's carryover for sure. You learn from one sport, you can take it and you can apply it to another one. Like, I feel like I'm a better O lineman because I did two years of wrestling in middle school.

• 18:06Speaker 03

  Right.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Now, I don't know if that's real or not, but you you learn about leverage when you wrestle.

• 18:10Speaker 03

  No doubt, no doubt.

• 18:11Travis Kelce?

  Randy, he was the one, he was the one you didn't want to fucking see out there, man.

• 18:14Speaker 03

  I can only imagine.

• 18:16Travis Kelce?

  This guy had pimples all over his face. You as soon as you start wrestling with him, the pimples are popping and like the blood or pus is coming down his face like, you don't.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  Fucking guy.

• 18:25Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  I love it after.

• 18:26Travis Kelce?

  Sweating, sweating his ass off. He's the sweaty, like, just mess and he's just.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Purposely not wearing deodorant. I'm gonna make you feel me.

• 18:34Travis Kelce?

  He's a nasty son of a buck, man.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  Athletes should leave their options open, you know, because like you said, you you and you know, Jason, that you say that your your position at center where leverage is very important is like, like, you really could hang your hat on, yeah, man, if I wouldn't have done wrestling, then my game would have been what is a professional. So, I mean, like you said, you've been able to take another sport and then put it into your professional sport. And, man, that says a lot.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's and it works for all of them. Like, I mean, basketball definitely feels like the most applicable, especially if it's if you got ball skills, complete athleticism, most of the best receivers, tight ends, I feel like a lot of those guys were hoopers growing up. It just feels like there's a big carryover. But I do want to go back a little bit to those days with Jason Williams. What is it about guys from West Virginia? I golfed with this dude and had the most fun outing of my life at the Jerome Bettis Golf Out in this past year. It feels like you're the same way. It feels like Nick Saban, even hearing him talk, like, there's a authenticity and a realness that there's, I don't even know how to describe it, but I just, it's, it feels like I love everybody that I meet from West Virginia, and I don't exactly know

• 19:45Speaker 02

  why. What is it about West Virginia that it feels like guys that come out of it like? They're not trying to be anything. They're, they're very grounded in who they are. They're proud of who they are and they don't take shit from nobody. That's pretty much the vibe I get

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  From everybody I never would.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  That is, that is us. But I, to answer your question, I just think that if you come from humble beginnings, I think that really was keep, what keeps a person grounded. And I think that everyone that I've seen from West Virginia, all the celebrities, you know, just being humbled and keep it grounded because one of the biggest things that I said in my Hall of Fame speech back in 2018, just growing up and nobody caring about who I was or who we were, you know, I grew up in an uncorporated community and, and still to this day, my community is still uncorporated. So I just think that, you know, being able to grow up in some, some real, you know, type of, of surroundings and, and understanding what's real in life,

• 20:45Speaker 03

  you learn that at a very young age, coming out of the state of West Virginia and not just where I'm from, the county, I just think as the whole state as a whole. And what you see is what you get. So I know there's a lot of people, you know, struggling back at home and you know, that's one of the things that really kept me grounded guys of, you know, going back and doing charity events and going back home. I even took my Hall of Fame jacket, I even took my Hall of Fame jacket back home. And the reason why, because I wanted to give the kids something, something real to see, something real to touch. And it's like back where you guys are from, it's like when you see the, the Kelsey brothers, you know, on television playing winter Super Bowls, now you seeing them, you know, endorsing themselves. It's kind of like when you go back home and seeing people that you grew

• 21:27Speaker 03

  up with or their children and things like that. So I just want to be able to give hope to people, you know, that grew up like I did. So I just think that, you know, it just answers your question about people being from West Virginia. I know what it's like, I know what it's like, you know, when it comes to hard times and that's something that I never forget. And I try to relay that message, you know, throughout my whole life.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  I love that Randy. That is so good.

• 21:49Travis Kelce?

  We got to get into a little bit of a story that Julian Edelman told us. Our guy, our guy, our guy friend of the show, you played with him as a rookie. I couldn't, I couldn't imagine having a better vet than the Randy Moss in the building. And he said he, you nicknamed him Edelnut?

• 22:08Speaker 03

  Edelnut. That's Edelman. Well, he came in.

• 22:12Travis Kelce?

  Where'd that come from?

• 22:13Speaker 03

  I don't know where Edelman, Edelman, Edelman, I don't, I know it just sounds crazy, but you know, you know how the comedy and jokes is in the locker room. You just try to find humor day to day just to get your day by. He tells a story about me being on the phone with, he calls it Mama Moss and, you know, just briefly, you know, I grew up in, you know, in, you know, of course in Rand, West Virginia and, you know, my mom, we grew up in a church and, you know, I grew up a drummer. And so,

• 22:42Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  when it, when it, when it comes to, you know, profanity and things like that, you know, my mom being the Christian she is, she doesn't want any swearing going on nowhere around her. So,

• 22:52Travis Kelce?

  Mm hmm.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  at that time, at that time, I'm in the locker room and Julian's behind me cussing. I forgot who he was talking to, but he was being loud. But he seen me on my phone and I was smiling and I was basically telling him to, you know, be quiet, to hold on. And I'm on the phone and then he was like, oh, what?

• 23:13Speaker 03

  You know, so it was like one of those crazy moments that I would hear later from my mom. Randy, who was that in the background swearing? And I was like, oh my God. So, that was like one of those crazy moments that I had to hear from my mama later on in life was in the background swearing. So that's where, that's where, that's where that moment came from. But it was actually a crazy moment at that time.

• 23:33Travis Kelce?

  That's awesome. When you saw Julian come in, because he was a quarterback in, at Kent State, man, did you see something in him immediately? Like, did he have, did he have that it factor when he walked in the building?

• 23:43Speaker 03

  The thing about New England and how they were running their offense about, before I became a Patriot, you look at all those small, shifty receivers. You have the small shift, yeah, you have the small, the small shifty running backs. You know, they had a guy like Kevin Faulk and then they brought in later Sweet Feet White and those other guys. But then,

• 24:05Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  you know, just looking at the past before I became a Patriot, they had a guy like, they had a guy by the name of Troy Brown, went to Marshall.

• 24:12Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  I studied his game. I was a big,

• 24:14Travis Kelce?

  Two-way player.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  I was a big fan, a big fan of his. And, and I was just looking at Troy was, I think Troy was coming off a knee surgery. So we bring in myself, we bring in Welker, and Edelman at the same time. So they're trying to figure out, you know, where they can put Julian Edelman coming out of Kent State as a quarterback. So all the gadget plays they knew they had in Julian. But I just think being a Swiss Army knife of getting in and out of clutches, he had to learn that. And I didn't have a problem throughout a 14 year career of teaching a guy the game. I think it's the more you know, uh, the better it helps you as a team.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  And so I, I really didn't have a problem with Edelman or anybody teaching him the game. And I think that I just saw, you know, his speed, his swiftness, but at the same time, you guys know as a young rookie, his willingness to want to learn the game. So that's really what, what, what took me over the top with him. And then he tells a story about me giving him money, uh, to feed the guys. And I, you know, you're late draft picks. Some guys may be a, a, a, undrafted, you know, free agent, but they still got a chip in to, to, to feed the veterans. So I just thought at that time, and I don't know how much he was making, but that's always been my hard, just for the guys. And you know how the vets get, you know how we get.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  The vets will be ruthless.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  Especially y'all, the alignment, you know, the donuts, the food, whatever's not there, you guys will go crazy. So that's what I was thinking about.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  That's right. But that's awesome, man. All right. Let's flash it back a little bit to West Virginia again. All right. So you're 1994 West Virginia player of the year in football, also won the West Virginia player of the year in basketball twice.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  Woo.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  You said you were more of a hooper. At what point did it transition? Did you know football was the future?

• 25:55Speaker 03

  The summer of 94. Jason, Nike used to run a, uh, a camp where they invite the best players around the country to a remote location and just ball for the weekend.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  Well, Jason was, you know, he's a year on, uh, older than me and I always played a year of most guys do when it comes to like AU and things like that. So, um, so the following year I went to the Nike camp. I got the invite, me and another guy by the name of Gene Neighbors, ended up going to LSU playing point guard for them. And speaking of Gene, Gene was the only guy that I ever seen give Jason fits as a point guard. They used to go at it. And if you ever asked Jason, say, Jason, did you and Gene Neighbors used to go at it? Yeah, they used to go with it. So I go to Nike camp and, you know, I'm sitting up there not really feeling good about it because I'm seeing, you know, Kevin Darnett, I'm just

• 26:49Speaker 03

  seeing guys, you know, six, seven, six, 11, seven footer. And so I'm sitting up here asking myself, can I compete? Do I belong here? So at the time, you know, we were sitting here talking about, you know, keeping your options open of playing all the sports you can actually play. Well, out of a seasonal athlete, just like maybe you guys were, you know, whatever season it was, that's what sport I played.

• 27:12Travis Kelce?

  Yes.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  Those guys like Kevin Garnett, there was a guy by the name of Ron Mercer out in Tennessee, ended up playing for the Chicago Bulls. All those guys were all year round gym rats. So that year, we ended up playing the team out of California that had the number one ranked underclassman by the name of Shea Cotton. You don't believe me, you can Google him. There's only been.

• 27:33Travis Kelce?

  Shea Cotton.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  Shea Cotton. There's only been three phenoms in the history that I've been living. Moses Malone, Shea Cotton, LeBron James. Them are the only three phenoms that I've ever, you know, heard about. I've seen two of them. I didn't see Moses back when he was in high school, but I've seen LeBron and I've seen Shea and he was a phenom. But anyways, we played them. He's a left-hander. Well, he embarrasses me. I come back. Yeah, I mean, he totally, totally, totally embarrassed me. This guy is an underclassman, but he's the number one rated player in the country. But like I say, Kevin Garnett was the number one rated player because he was a senior that year. Shea was, I think, I think Shea was maybe a sophomore that year, but he's the number one player. Anyways, I get embarrassed.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  So then I'm already feeling a certain type of way. Well, we, we get a rain delay. I'm on a, I'm on a court. Kevin Garnett's out there playing. So me and him somehow get into a one-on-one match. I asked Kevin, does he remember this? And he, he kind of looked at me. I was like, well, Kevin, I've got great memory. I remember this.

• 28:33Travis Kelce?

  I remember like it was yesterday.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  So using my, so using my speed with basketball, guys, I try to get to the rim and try to lay it up as high as I possibly could over the white box. Okay?

• 28:46Travis Kelce?

  Okay, okay. Man, you gotta be up there.

• 28:48Speaker 03

  Kevin Garnett. Gets up on a basketball, Jason, and pins my ball with the palm of his hand. So I'm already feeling discouraged from Shane Cotton and what he did to me. And now Kevin Garnett did this to me. So then when I go back home, they say, hey, man, you went to Nike camp, Mouse, how did it go? I said, football player, that's what I'm gonna be.

• 29:11Travis Kelce?

  I said, man, I'm ready for football.

• 29:13Speaker 03

  Yes, I am, and that is really a true story. I'm, I mean, I'm putting a little bit of humor into it, but at the same time, that was a true story. That what happened to me that really changed my mind of playing basketball. And then it's like, dude, I don't even think I can compete with those guys. So let me stick to football.

• 29:29Travis Kelce?

  That is amazing. That's such a good story. KG ended up, uh, going straight to the NBA from there, right?

• 29:34Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, from high school, but see, the thing about it, it was kind of crazy because we had a couple nights out. Where we seen each other and of course, uh, we supported one another. We ended up taking that the iconic picture, uh, together. But like I said, I, I just told, you know, just Kevin, just more of the, of the things that when you grow up playing against certain guys.

• 29:59Speaker 03

  You know, I get fueled, I was fueled in height. Seeing other guys that I played and competed against to make it to the next level. And that's when I started, you know, when I got to college and seeing Kevin on that level. And I was like, hey, man, I could really compete. And I remember going to Florida State my freshman year. You know, coming out of West Virginia where the talk is, you know, we, we don't, we don't breed athletes. And if you do, they're, they don't compete, you know? So I think that I had a lot of, a lot of questions about my game at Florida State. But then I left Florida State, went to Marshall, and I had a lot of confidence. And, uh, and the reason why I had a lot of confidence, because a lot of the guys professionally came back to Florida State and trained. Trav, you'll love this one.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  So during the off season. Everybody, they're beating on my door, beating on my door. Country boy, country boy. Come on outside, come on outside.

• 30:52Travis Kelce?

  Everybody wanted the smoke.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  So I'm sitting up there like, you know, what's going on? Hey, man, the pros are out here training. Come and get some, come and get some. So, I mean, it was guys like, um, Devin Bush is, uh, Devin Bush, uh, senior, he was still in the National Football League. He went to Florida State. Um, you know, just a lot of the past guys that made it because Florida State was putting athletes in the league like, like right and left. So I get out there and those guys are talking, oh, you're the country boy I hear about. Well, anyways, I go out there and embarrass those guys. I handle my business. And then, and then right after that, the spring comes, the spring comes, I, I have a great spring. And then I go back to, to West Virginia, serve some jail time and then up getting, you know, thrown out of Florida State.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  But anyways, getting back to the story of the confidence factor of being able to have the confidence coming from Florida State. And then from the AU basketball court to Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played with at Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played AU ball against, you're talking about confidence and not looking back. And then also the, the, the trials and tribulations of, of, you know, coming from the state of West Virginia. Dude, it was destined for me to really get out there and just grit my teeth and just go get it.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  Heck yeah, man. Heck yeah.

• 32:04Travis Kelce?

  That's such a good story. From one flip side to a, to a Nike invite to realize that, you know, this might not be the thing. And then on the other flip side, going down to Florida State and realizing like, oh yeah, I got something over here.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  Right.

• 32:17Travis Kelce?

  That's a dope dynamic.

• 32:18Speaker 02

  I feel the same way because people, a lot of times people ask like, when did you know you could go to the NFL? It's like, I kind of started knowing once I saw guys go and I was playing against them. It was the same way in college. Like, I'm like, man, am I good enough to play in college? And then I'm playing against Thaddeus Gibson over at Euclid and I'm like, I can compete with Thaddeus and he was committed to Ohio State. So I feel like I can, I'm, I'm right there. And then all of a sudden you're in college and you see guys that your teammates with go. And you're like, okay, I might get a shot at this thing. And what was it like? You just mentioned going from Florida State, going back to West Virginia, Marshall. What, what was that like?

• 32:53Speaker 03

  It was hard for me, God. And, and the reason why is because what I struggled with, you know, as far as my, you know, my upbringing, then got into that high school, you know, fight, you know, getting sentenced to, to some jail time. And, you know, it's kind of like that, you know, throughout my whole life, I think a lot of the people around the state seen my talents and, you know, wanted me to be a mountaineer. And, you know, I followed the mountaineers. They, you know, competed against Notre Dame in the national championship in the late eighties. So, you know, I've always followed the mountaineers, the follow Marshall, you know, in the divisions that they were in and the players that they even put in their program. But I just always wanted to get out, Jason, and, and just being able to get out and then coming back home was kind of crazy to me. And like I said, being able

• 33:37Speaker 03

  to see those guys pull up in the Lexus and, you know, the Mercedes and seeing a lot of things that I didn't see growing up. So when I came back home, it was kind of depressing for me because I kind of failed myself. And, and, and I think that being able to get an opportunity to play football again, I got with Marshall, you know, I had a great group of guys as far as my, as far as my teammates, you know, just being able to uplift me in certain situations and certain moments. We went undefeated my first year. So I think that, you know, a lot of the stuff that, you know, I took from Florida State, I took to Marshall, man. And, and like I say, the rest is history. You can look at the record books, you can look at the scoreboard.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  So like I said, man.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  So I took, I just took a lot, you know, from Florida State. But at the same time, like I told you, what fueled me to go out there and try to make it to the top. I didn't, I didn't want to take, I didn't want to take that little bump in the road, you know, going back home to Marshall. I just took that as another opportunity to, to go reach my goal.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Hell, yeah, man. Hell, yeah. Well, it worked out.

• 34:43Travis Kelce?

  Heck, it did.

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• 34:47Travis Kelce?

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• 35:36Travis Kelce?

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• 35:43Travis Kelce?

  Pepsi, ah, Jason, would you consider yourself a creature of habit?

• 35:48Speaker 02

  My, yes, yes, I would.

• 35:49Travis Kelce?

  How many times do we stick with something just because it's what we've always done?

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Uh, that's pretty much my whole life.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, you're so used to one thing, uh, but when you actually think about it, you realize you've been missing out on something better.

• 36:06Travis Kelce?

  That's what Pepsi calls the Pepsi paradox.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 36:10Travis Kelce?

  When you take away the labels and just go off the taste, people across the country prefer the taste of Pepsi. It's been proven over and over again in blind taste tests.

• 36:20Speaker 02

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• 36:32Travis Kelce?

  Here's what they're saying. Maybe it's time to question what you think you know about soda. Is your preference really about taste?

• 36:42Speaker 02

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• 36:50Travis Kelce?

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• 36:54Speaker 02

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• 37:00Travis Kelce?

  They don't judge you. They don't complain. They just show up with pure love.

• 37:04Speaker 02

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• 37:10Travis Kelce?

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• 37:16Speaker 02

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• 37:20Travis Kelce?

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• 37:26Speaker 02

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• 37:29Travis Kelce?

  Find the right food at hills pet.com slash science does more. Some of the most iconic college highlights of all time, man. I mean, you throw on that Randy Moss highlight tape over at Marshall Man.

• 37:45Travis Kelce?

  I love that shit. And that was back in the AstroTurf days.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  Oh, my.

• 37:51Travis Kelce?

  What was, what was it like going, playing on AstroTurf every single home game or every single week?

• 37:56Speaker 03

  Well, the thing about it is I played on AstroTurf, AstroTurf a lot in high school too. So it was kind of like I played in AstroTurf in, in high school. Played on AstroTurf in, in, in college. And then when I got drafted to the Minnesota Vikings, they were on AstroTurf. So it was kind of like, you had to understand how to play on it because if you don't understand how to play on it, it could really, you know, as far as the cutting, you know, as far as the joints on your knees and then also the scrapes and cuts on your body. I mean, I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't really know my degrees as far as burns first, second or third degree, but I seen a man,

• 38:35Speaker 03

  I've seen a man on game day to have his whole arm stripped from here all the way down to his wrist.

• 38:43Travis Kelce?

  It's like Velcro, man.

• 38:45Speaker 03

  And it was pure white.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  So like I say, I had to learn, like I say, I had to learn how to play on it, but at the same time, you know, just been able to, to make the. Transition to, to, you know, the grass or the field turf. I mean, I enjoyed every moment of it though. Cause I played on the worst.

• 39:03Travis Kelce?

  One stadium in, uh, that we played in high school, Lakewood High School. And that was, that was only really the, the, the only chance I ever had to play on Astro turf. But when you came in the league, it was, you had all, all fields. It was Astro turf. It was regular fields and then it was baseball fields.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:22Travis Kelce?

  Like you were playing on the infield. You were playing on Astro. Like it's, that's such a crazy dynamic.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  We, we complain about field turf now and it's like, man, guys were playing on carpet and, uh, and running on a mound. They were running to second base out there.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  I'm gonna tell you one of my, my, one of my craziest moments. Of course, I don't think I've ever won in Philly. I don't think I've ever won in Philly, but they used, but they used to have a wall, the visitors locker room. Did you ever hear about that wall?

• 39:48Speaker 02

  I don't think I've heard about this.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  All the former players, and I don't even know how, how far it goes back. I know it's back in the seventies. I mean, you got from Walter Payton, you know, Refrigerator Perry. You got all the guy, well anyways, when they come into the visitors locker room, but the old vet, we can sign this wall. And you can sign it, whatever you would want, you know, we're going to keep y'alls whatever, Randy Moss, you know, whatever it is. So Walter, Walter Payton being, you know, my favorite player growing up. I signed my name near his. I mean, I saw Jerry Rice's. I seen all these players. That are in the visiting locker room. You, you can sign this wall. You can say what you want and then put your autograph on it.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Then I said, well, what did they do with the wall when they built the new stadium? I don't know, but that was one of the craziest moments going into the vet.

• 40:39Travis Kelce?

  Oh, we gotta find that wall. There's no way they let that get, get out of there.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  I can't believe this, this has gotta be, this is in somebody's basement and they're doing a good job keeping it secret.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  They, they couldn't have demolished it with all the autographs and all the history just on, it was a brick. It was just a brick wall that was kind of like whole enough to stadium. I say over a hundred, a hundred and fifty athletes on that wall.

• 41:00Travis Kelce?

  That's crazy.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  I can't believe they didn't incorporate in the new stadium. They should, like, it should be enshrined. I gotta add, I gotta fi- figure this out.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, really.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  All right. You mentioned, uh, playing with the Vikings.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  Right.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  You get draft, first of all, what was draft day like? We ask everybody who got draft, like, what was that process like?

• 41:16Speaker 03

  My draft day was kind of crazy because of the expectations that I had that I was going to be a cowboy. And Wow, okay. I just I didn't know this, huh? Now, now I told you about my background, about my mom being in church and Christian and my mom was, you know, really into church. She really wasn't into sports. You know how you guys take that visit to a team and then they host you or whatnot, you know? Yeah, top thirty. Yeah, Dallas was a little different. They hosted a lot of players. They didn't host you, you know, individually. So I come back home, you know, thinking that I'm going to be a Cowboy. So I come back telling everybody in my hometown, I tell my mom, and then my mom is like, okay, son, if you say you're

• 41:58Speaker 03

  going to be a Cowboy, then you're going to be a Cowboy. So I remember on draft day, sitting there, you know, you got the ESPN camera there in the house that I was in, and I remember my mom sitting there with a Bible on her lap. And it was kind of crazy because I was like, okay, mom, you know, you here? I know you're over there praying, but it's kind of weird that my mom's here in this sport type of moment. And so when I tell I'm going to be drafted and they, you know, the eighth overall pick, Dallas Cowboy select Greg Ellis, and that was my, you know, supposed to be selection. And so like I said, I seen my mom's, you know, energy and facial expression, and then I was feeling a certain type of way. So I just think that, you know, I know there's more to this and we don't

• 42:42Speaker 03

  have time for it, but you guys, you two, the Kelsey brothers, you guys don't understand as far as, there's been a lot of, lot of blood as far as the family blood that goes through the National Football League, but I think it's being successful as a pair of brothers, man, I think that's really what I tip my hat and commend you guys for because that's really hard to do. You know, you got one brother over here having success. You got another brother. You guys are really competing against each other, but at the same time, you still have the love. So anyways, my brother played for the Minnesota Vikings before I was drafted. He went to Ohio State. He backed up Corey Pace in Orlando, I mean, Corey Stringer in Orlando Pace. And so, and so, um, my brother called me first. He's like, hey, man, Coach Green wants to talk to you. And I was like, ah, man, I'm

• 43:27Speaker 03

  not really into, oh, Randy, I'm going to draft you. Okay, whatever. So, so, because I was, like I said, man, I was already depleted from, you know, not getting, you know, the eighth overall pick. So when it came to the Vikings pick, they picked me up and And then all of a sudden, um, you know, I get the call and I'm like, you know, thanks, coach. You won't regret this. All I want to do is just play football, man. It's been a bumpy 24 hour road for me. I was an emotional wreck. I was like, coach, I just want to play football. That's all I want to do. So I go back that night, get ready to get on my plane and I ended up breaking my ankle. So if you ever look at my rookie trading card, you'll look at me and Dennis Green on a practice field.

• 44:08Speaker 03

  And I have an air cast on my foot because on draft night, I had to get my mind away from not getting drafted. I went and played basketball and broke my ankle.

• 44:16Speaker 02

  Broke the ankle?

• 44:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, broke my ankle.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  What?

• 44:20Speaker 03

  So I, you know, hobbled through a airport, went through Chicago, O'Hare, hobbled. They seen me jumping. They went and got a wheelchair for me, took me to my gate. And then all of a sudden I went to Minnesota. They got me the gate, brought me to the coaches. And, uh, first thing they done to me was took me straight to, to the doctors and put the, the, the boot on it.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  What did they say?

• 44:39Speaker 03

  They can't say nothing. They know my history. They know my background. So, I mean, it's like, it's like, okay, things happen. So like I said, man, it was like, it was, it was a crazy moment, but like I said, just being able to get drafted. My brother called me and, uh, was like, like, like the, the Minnesota Vikings want to. So me being up there in Minnesota for my first couple of years, man, I had my brother with me. Man, that's so cool, man.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  You got your revenge on the Cowboys. Talk about, talk about Thanksgiving. What was that game like? Did you know coming into it, you were going to go off for that much?

• 45:10Speaker 03

  No, I really didn't. I, I, I think that, you know how you sit at home as a kid? And you see all the athletes like score touchdown and all of a sudden the camera goes right to that athlete. And I know both of you guys have done it because I've seen it. Hi, mom.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  Yes, no doubt.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  Every time you know it. So my biggest thing was being on that stage, Thanksgiving day, I just wanted to say hi, mom. That's all I wanted to do. So that game, we're in the cold tub because we just played on Sunday. Y'all guys know how important the cold tub is. So I didn't want to get in the cold tub, but the veterans forced me in there and I went up and having those three catches that iconic game. But I think for me, just going up there, just being able to ignore the noise of seeing familiar faces, because I remember when I took that trip before the draft, I seen, you know, some faces, you know, as far as the recruiting and the scouts and things like that. So me going out there, just seeing some familiar faces, I had to be able to ignore that.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  But at the same time, put my focus on going out here and having a great game. But then out of all the things that I'll say this, with that game, with my mind being everywhere, you know, my wide receiver coach, you know, rest, rest his soul, Hubbard Alexander and Chris Carter, Jake Reed, our wide receiver core three D, we all stayed together that game. And it was my rookie year. I mean, I know my coming out party was the Green Bay Monday night, but that game against Dallas, guys, it was kind of like it was so emotional and it was kind of, we've all been in a zone before, you know, where you think like every block I'm going to get and there's no ball that I'm going to drop. You know what I'm saying? So that game right there, I know it was just three, three,

• 46:56Speaker 03

  uh, three balls thrown my way, but I was like, dude, I was in a zone that day and I was going to not let anything stop me.

• 47:02Speaker 02

  Three balls for 163 yards and three touchdowns. That's a heck of a day.

• 47:07Speaker 03

  Hang my hat on that one.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  One of the producers is a Cowboy fan, grew up in Texas. He has this in there. We got to ask, and we know you're involved with Boulder. Do you still have that same game of Deion's playing?

• 47:17Speaker 03

  Probably.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  Because well, the thing about it, quick crazy story. I got to tell you this, guys, and the guy that the Cowboy fan, you're going to be sick at this story. Real quick. When I get to Dallas, I'm already sitting up here wondering about what is my day going to be like. Okay. So I come down to the lobby and one of the security guys tells me, he said, Hey, Randy, uh, you're not going to come to dinner tonight. We're going to, there's Mr. Jones sent the limousine to get you and the limousine is going to take you over to Primetime's house. And I'm like, I've never met Deion Sanders. I'm like, oh my God. Crazy. So that night I go to Deion Sanders house. He tells me, you know, the story of, hey, man, I'd love to play with you.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  Jerry Jones wants you. He wants me to talk to you. So guys, there was no way that I was going, leaving Dallas. That, you know, in my mind, I, I was believing that I was going to be a Dallas Cowboys. So.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  That is crazy.

• 48:15Travis Kelce?

  What a pump fake, man.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  Right?

• 48:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, for the pump fake. So back to what you were saying, it wasn't, it, it had nothing to do with if Deion was playing or not. One thing that I'll tell you that Chris Carter was always up for the big games that we played the big guys. Like we had Aeneas Williams, Hall of Fame brother out of Arizona Cardinals.

• 48:37Travis Kelce?

  Yep.

• 48:37Speaker 03

  Played him. We played, uh, James Hasty and Dale Carter, cornerback side of Kansas City. At the time, they were both Pro Bowlers. So being a veteran player, you know, he always used to tell me about, hey, man, you gotta be worried about this one. You gotta worry about this one. I remember talking about Deion and he was like, I don't know if he's going to play, but if, if he does, you gotta watch out for this. You gotta watch out for that. So I was just up to the moment of my rookie year, knowing it was Thanksgiving, everybody talking about me and Deion Sanders. And I was like, man, I can't not worry about Deion. That's like, that's how focused I really was, guys. I really was really focused that game.

• 49:14Travis Kelce?

  Was there a DB throughout your entire career that you kind of like give the tip of the cap to that, that you just, he always made your job just that, that much harder?

• 49:23Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I'm not ashamed to say his name. Darrel Rivas was a nut.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. The, the, the, he was just a nut. I mean, and the thing about it, what, what was you going to ask me, Jason? What made him, what made him good?

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, because it wasn't like he was like this crazy, like fat, like, I mean, he was, but what made him so good at, at corner?

• 49:42Speaker 03

  I mean, without stating the obvious, you know, guys study, you know, they study techniques, they study, you know, formation, things like that. But by him being not as fast as, you know, a Champ Bailey or Deion Sanders, the man was athletic beyond, you know, when I say athletic, if you study a guy like Darrel Rivas, go back to his highlights, back when he played basketball, uh, in the state of Pennsylvania. Okay.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:08Travis Kelce?

  Do some homework, yeah.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  Okay, so when I go back to to do my study and I already went back to his high school looking at his skillset because I remember the release, I I did a release his rookie year and then the second year I came back, I tried to do the same release and I'm like, oh my God, he got it. So it was kind of more like he did his homework on me. Now it's time for me to do mine, which I thought I did, but I had to really go into my study mode with a guy like him because he was so good. And I just think that the way he knew how you stepped, how he knew body language along with having a, you know, a great defensive coordinator on a guy like Rex Ryan and then later on going to, you know, Bill Belichick's defense. So like I said, Darrelle Revis was

• 50:53Speaker 03

  a natty study, but I think one of the things that he really didn't get for credit, get get credit for was how good of an athlete he was, just not as a cornerback, but the man was a hell of a guard, too.

• 51:04Speaker 02

  Heck, yeah.

• 51:04Travis Kelce?

  When I got to go up against him, he was so stout and strong.

• 51:08Speaker 03

  He had great patience.

• 51:09Travis Kelce?

  He never opened his hip. It was crazy.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Do you remember the time when they took you out of the three-point stance and they let you get out here and line up at that wide receiver?

• 51:19Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Because, but because the crazy thing about it was, Trav, it's kind of like we knew, you know, as football fans, like, hey, this man right here can play some football. So then all of a sudden, now you, they they detach you from the tackle and let you get out there to two-point stance and then you really get to see how shifty you were as a player. And now I'm with Jason.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  Yes, dude, that was a perfect impersonation right there.

• 51:46Travis Kelce?

  You don't look at the shoulders. You're gonna get lost. You're gonna get lost in the shoulders.

• 51:50Speaker 03

  Being able to go against certain guys like, you know, a Charles Woods and a Champ Bailey, a Darrelle Revis, a lot of that stuff was important because of if they do their study and and and learn how to be patient at the line, you'll definitely have success against most wide receivers in today's game and pass.

• 52:06Speaker 02

  I love it. I I gotta, we usually ask, what is your welcome to the NFL moment? But you made the Pro Bowl, uh, your rookie year and were second team all pro. It doesn't sound like you had a welcome to the NFL moment. That was like, I mean, I guess it was the Cowboys game. I guess it was the Green Bay or Cowboys game. Like, they're positive. It wasn't, my welcome was like facing off against Ray Lewis for the first time. I'm like, man, I can't believe I'm trying to block Ray Lewis.

• 52:28Travis Kelce?

  Oh.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  Do you have any moments like that?

• 52:30Speaker 03

  I think what was crazy for me and it it it was Monday night, it was Monday night in Lambeau. And I remember, I don't remember the result of the play. But I remember walking back to the huddle and I walked right past Reggie White. And just, just as, you know.

• 52:49Travis Kelce?

  Just could feel the aura.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  Dude.

• 52:54Travis Kelce?

  Minister of Defense right there. Hope that guy doesn't get his hands on me, god damn.

• 52:59Speaker 03

  No, because I mean, there's already a clip of him throwing Chris Carter out the way. He's trying to chip the edge, but.

• 53:06Speaker 03

  You know, so imagine that, that, that throw, but I think that that was a moment for me. I, I think just not looking at the, the actually, the, the, the stats and the yards. I just think being able to look, uh, and seeing that I'm on the same football field as Reggie White. And then there was another clip of me talking about my coaches telling me, hey, man, sit down, man, come and rest your legs. I was like, no, that's Brett Favre. That's Brett Favre. So. You know, so, so it's just crazy moments like that. I just remember Brett Favre being on the field. Barry Sanders been on the field and then walking past Reggie White said, a rookie. So it's kind of like the guys you grew up watching and now you're on the field playing against them or with them. That's, that's, that's probably my surreal moments.

• 53:47Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah. Heck, yeah. I had one of those surreal moments when we played the Patriots for the first time. I saw Tom Brady in person, man, live in an action in his super suit, wearing the 12, man. How was it when you went to the Patriots? Was it, was it a night and day like difference from anywhere you had ever been? Or what was it like meeting Tom for the first time?

• 54:05Speaker 03

  Dude, we can have fun on this, on y'all's podcast all day, but check this out. So y'all know, so y'all know. So you know, Saturday night, uh, before the game, we're in a hotel, we're the visitors, right? So you know the, what we're on two floors and you know, you got the security on both floors of all this crazy stuff. So we're the Raiders.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  We play on Sunday. I fly back to Minnesota. So one of my former teammates is at the hotel getting ready for the Monday night. Well, guys, I drive down to their hotel, sneak in the hotel and go up the uh the exit uh the exit stair and get up on their floor. All right. Okay. Jason, you're looking at me like, ready? Like, what is this, Randy? Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. There are probably what, four or five hours before they go to the stadium on Monday night. I sneak in their hotel, meet Brady for the first time, Trav. Meeting for the first time and I said, look, dude, I'm gonna cut straight to it. I said, dude, I wanna play with you. Whatever you can do to get me up here, do it. So the next thing you know, I gave him, I daffed him up, gave him some love, walked out.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  That night, I watched the game. Brady's first time ever in his career. He throws five touchdowns against the Minnesota Vikings. So I'm sitting up here thinking, ooh, I might have rubbed off on Brady a little bit.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  So. Oh, no. Being given the opportunity to get traded from Oakland to the Patriots. The number one thing that I wanted to do, Jason Travis offensive players. I wanted to know everything that Brady knew as far as Jason, the checks. You know, when I'm hot, when it's a site, when you're changing the protections. Give me everything that Brady knew I wanted to know. Because if it had something to do with me, I wanted to hit the ground running. Okay? Sure. Yeah. And so, and I had expectations and end up getting a hamstring injury that uh that forced me out of preseason. And so actually, my first actual game

• 56:11Speaker 03

  of going out here, really doing it, was week one against the Jets. And so like I said, I was coming off a hamstring injury. But anyways, the rest is history about the 23 touchdowns and the record-breaking season. But like I said, I just wanted to know everything that Brady actually or possibly knew that had helped my game out.

• 56:27Travis Kelce?

  Not enough guys play this game through the eyes of the quarterback, man. It's it's crazy how much you can you can benefit off of understanding the whole grand. Scheme of things and you know, I think even at a young age, man, I like playing quarterback. I felt like helped me out so much more because I understood the, the, the progressions. I understood, you know, where that, that, that position's eyes were before every single snap. Man, that's awesome to hear, brother, that, that because it really did seem like you guys were in sync, especially if somebody was, uh, was playing too low or a safety came down or you already know it was, uh, it was up top all, all, uh, all season that year.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  I gotta ask you, while we're on this quarterback, uh, receiver dynamic quarterback receiver drama is like a tale as old as time. I remember playing freshman football. Trav, here's me bring this up all the time. I'm wide open. I'm getting mad at like, will you throw me the ball? Like what is happening here? Why are you not so, I got it. When you're seeing quarterback receiver drama, are you always on the receiver side of things? Like what, whose fault is it usually in your mind?

• 57:30Speaker 03

  I think it's a 50 50 and I'm, uh, uh, and the reason why I say it's a 50 50 is because you take a guy like, I, I'm gonna give you just a prime example of what we're, we're looking at right now. You take a guy like Aaron Rodgers, okay?

• 57:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:43Speaker 03

  And it's like Aaron Rodgers has some bath roles where he looks, you know, where he might throw the ball to back row. And then like it's nothing, no body, no body language, no emotion. Okay. Then all of a sudden, the very next play or a couple of plays, the receiver drops the ball. Now Aaron is all like.

• 58:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  So, yeah, he's pissed. So like I say, you know, not singling Aaron out because I mean, he's had a phenomenal career and doing some great things. But when you look at, you know, to answer your question, Jason, I think it's just a 50 50 split because we have our times Trav where we're not in the right place or you know, we might've went too, too far that the quarterback wasn't expecting us to be. But at the same time, they could get rushed and try to get the ball out of our hands. But to that point. In the history of the game, Trav, you and Pat, as far as the anticipation of he knowing where you're going to be before you even turn your head or get out of your break, that should be studied.

• 58:50Speaker 03

  And I, and I, and I really mean that, and I'm not saying it just because you're sitting here on this podcast because

• 58:56Travis Kelce?

  I appreciate that, Randy.

• 58:57Speaker 03

  You talk about the art and the science of sports. But at the same time, that quarterbacks are really amazed when you want to say, hey, I want to see my, I want to see my wide receiver create separation and get open. No, Patrick knows what the route is, where you're going to stop, your body lanes, and like I say, one of the, that's one of the most beautiful things to see when it comes to quarterback receiver combination is that of what you guys created, man. I tip my hats to that.

• 59:26Travis Kelce?

  Man, that, that means the most coming for you, big guy. And I'll tell you what, man, sometimes he surprises the shit out of me. I don't, I don't know, because I'll turn my head around and, and maybe break off my route different, or maybe even just run a completely different route than what's called.

• 59:41Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 59:41Travis Kelce?

  And Pat is just right on cue, right on the money.

• 59:44Speaker 03

  He knows.

• 59:45Travis Kelce?

  Every single time, man. He just knows. We've, uh, that's what happens when you, when you golf together and you, you, you play drinking games together, man. You just

• 59:54Travis Kelce?

  you sit down to have a beer with a guy, you start to get in his head.

• 59:57Speaker 03

  Well, let me, let me ask you, just, you know, football talk, you know, like I told you, we could do this all day.

• 1:00:02Travis Kelce?

  All day, baby.

• 1:00:03Speaker 03

  Just our position. When it comes to the chemistry that you guys, between you and Patrick, that you guys created, how did y'all create that chemistry, bro? I mean, like, I, I know that you're going to say practice, I, I know, no, it's not just practice. Like, what type of belief that, like, y'all's conversation, like, how did y'all make that? Talk to me, man. Tell me.

• 1:00:27Travis Kelce?

  You already know. I think you already know. It's over. It's all the reps. It's all the reps. But at the same time, I think there is just a natural understanding of your backyard football. Like, like Pat will, Pat will tell you from the, from the get go. I, I used to come into, I came into this thing with Alex Smith. He's, he's more seven step. That ball's coming out. You know what I mean? And you gotta be there. Pat's kinda like, yeah, I'm around my seven step, but I could, I could, you know, airtime on it, do something with my feet. My seven step might not be, I might stretch my drop this time. So his timing is, is more just feel out the game. And I kinda have that similar timing as well. And I remember I went up to Pat one time and, and was like, all right, man, if they go this coverage, I'm gonna run it like this. I'm gonna run it like that.

• 1:01:10Travis Kelce?

  Hey, what do you think if I give him a nod here and, and take an extra like tick to get out of my break? He was just like, nah, man, just get open.

• 1:01:22Travis Kelce?

  Just get open. I'll throw it when you get open.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:01:26Travis Kelce?

  Bro, the guy just, he's trusting me to get open. He said, I don't care how you run this route. You just get open and that ball is gonna be there on time.

• 1:01:35Speaker 03

  And it really shows that, you know, not trying to throw it. And Jason, I'm not gonna leave you out, my brother. When I look at your game, I looked at more of your game toward the end of your career. And the reason why is because both of you guys toward the end of your, or at the end of your careers, you were playing at a high level. So they both basically put the Kelsey brothers together. And I would have to ask Jason, when we talk about gelling, when we talk about chemistry, throughout your whole career, who is that player, and it probably is gonna have to be a guard, that, that you would say, hey, dude, I would just have to give him this look and he already know, we're going to mall whoever's in front of. Who is that player in your career that you just,

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  it's not even word, it's a look. Who is that player?

• 1:02:23Speaker 02

  That's tough. I had so many of them. I would say the guy that I knew, like, we didn't even need to communicate. We were just always on the same page. Is probably Brandon Brooks. Like Brandon Brooks, who he, he only, he won a Super Bowl with us, but, and he had a shorter career. He was incredible. He was big, strong, and he had a good feel for the game. He was an athlete playing offensive line.

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  The best lineman I played with, like Howard Mudd used to teach the game, like, What's pass blocking? He'd be like, how do you play basketball? Just the quarterback's the hoop. Just keep him in front of you. I'm like, coach, I need some more technique. I need you to give me something more than that. Guys that conceptualize the game like that were the most fun to play with. When you play with guys that were too robotic and too much like an offensive lineman, it was harder to adjust to the in-game stuff happening, if you know what I mean. Like, I didn't even need to say something to Brandon. We just both knew with this guy in this position, the linebacker right there, that we were going to hit the block this way. Like, why else wouldn't we hit it that way? But another guy you might have to communicate with throughout the week, like, hey,

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  we really need to take this one more vertical. Hey, you take more of them. I'm gonna push them on top of you because of this backer's gonna fall off. If he's in a stacked position on this play. But Brandon knew it. Isaac Sayamalu was another guy that knew that. The best field player I ever played with was Jason Peters.

• 1:03:51Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:51Speaker 02

  JP. JP, we have an alert call. I'm not gonna say it because they still use it, but he would alert me that there was edge pressure.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  And I'd be looking out there. There's no safety cap. And I'm like, man, how does this dude know that this pressure is coming? I'm like, whatever, I'm going out there. Sure enough, they bring the nickel, right? There's certain guys that just understand spacing and alignment.

• 1:04:12Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  And those guys were so valuable on game day because they didn't, you didn't need the coaching on the field. They just could go out there and play. And those are the guys that I always gelled with the best, for sure. But Lane Johnson, I gotta throw him up there, too. That was like my second brother for a long time in Philadelphia. Like, he got drafted two years after me. We did our whole career together, still doing his thing out there.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:04:37Speaker 02

  I just didn't do a lot of communicating with Lane. Lane was more all the way out there on the edge. It was more like you said, guards.

• 1:04:42Speaker 03

  Well, I gotta ask you guys. I know this is y'all's interview, but you know, I've asked it. I know Trav, I know everybody speculating. Jason, you first. I know what I missed. When I told, when, when I told the people that, you know, I was gonna hang it up and I remember crying. And my, my wife, I remember hearing the car door slam and my daughter and my wife came in and I had to, you know, wipe my face and do all that crazy stuff because I didn't even want to see. I didn't want it. I did not want my wife to see like, baby, what's wrong with you? Nothing.

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:14Speaker 03

  So I think to my point in my question, you know, Jason, when it was time for you to call it quits, what's the number one thing in your mind you knew you were going to miss about the game?

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  I knew I was gonna miss competing and playing and game day. What I didn't know I was gonna miss was the locker room and everybody tells you you're gonna miss it.

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  But it's hard until you remove from it.

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  That you really understand that there ain't anything else that's replicates this, like, guys from all over the country, you're coming together for a specific task and.

• 1:05:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  It's just, it, it, that ends up being for sure what I miss the most is just being in the locker room with the guys. And I purposely go back still to try and get that, but yeah, I think that's the, and then I also miss the regimentedness of it.

• 1:06:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  Does that make sense? Like I, I, I, I mean, I'm, I'm happy I don't have it, but I also, there was a, a self, like there was a productivity in my own head that I knew, every day I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna lift and I'm gonna watch tape. And then I'm gonna go out and dominate on game day and I'm gonna do it with my boys.

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  That's the way I would answer it.

• 1:06:26Speaker 03

  No, that, that was mine because I, I'd say there's all types of things that you could actually say, but I think what mine was the locker room itself, seeing your brothers, you know, men from different walks of life that you're coming together for one call. So like I said, for me, Trav, I, you know, the reason why I asked that because I, like I said, I know the time is coming. I don't know when, but I know, you know, the time is coming. Uh, I don't know if this was the last or if it wasn't, but if there is, if this was the last, what do you think that you'll miss most about, you know, the game?

• 1:06:58Travis Kelce?

  Man, I think it's just those, those moments in, in, in. The big games, man, the, the feeling of, of having to, to rise to the occasion, um, be there for, you know, 70,000, uh, that are all counting on you out there outside of just the, the guys that you go to war with, you guys go to battle with, man. Um, those moments of, of, of rising to the occasion in the heat of the battle, uh, you know, in the playoffs and, and, and all the big games out there, man, those, that's a feeling that I know I'll never get again. And I think that's, that's, uh, that's something that, um, you know, those are, those are the things that you cherish the most. And especially, you know, if, if you're fortunate enough to,

• 1:07:39Travis Kelce?

  to be in the playoffs and, and, uh, and make runs at it, man, the satisfaction that you get and the, the successful feeling you get of all the hard work that you put in is finally paying off. And, and, uh, I think that'll, that'll be one of the things I miss the most, man, for sure.

• 1:07:54Speaker 03

  Well, look, I, I, I know we don't, I don't know how much time we got, but mine, you know, from a football standpoint, when we talk about a moment, you know, Jason, you talked about the, you know, the competing part. I had a 14 year career and, you know, I've had a lot of moments, but I think really the 23 touchdowns is, I think the moment, I think the moment for me, because being a kid, Trav, is more like seeing Jerry Rice. I mean, Herman Moore was a big tall receiver that Barry Sanders had in Detroit. Seeing guys like that, that I grew up and then coming into, that's why I was just telling you guys of what it felt to be just seeing Miles Garrett break that single season sack record. Because I, like

• 1:08:37Speaker 03

  I said, it's not an individual thing, but when you have an opportunity to go break a record, you know, as an individual, that was my, you know, moment, you know, surreal moment for me of all the hard work that I put in. Jason, out of your whole career, there's one defining moment for you, not, not the Eagles, not the media, for you as a ball player. What's your defining moment throughout your professional career that you put your, that you can hang your hat on?

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  We had a lot of successful years where running backs had a lot of yards. You kind of take that a little bit, like I'm, I'm, I had something to do with that, right? Like you bring up the touchdown record that you hold or that you broke. Like there are the great, it is an individual record, but it is kind of a team record too. There are other people, and that's the greatest thing about this game.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  But I would say honestly, for me, I had awful season in 2016, played like trash, right? Like almost got cut from Philadelphia. A lot of people don't even remember it. Philadelphians do probably, but the next year, I put a lot of work in in the offseason. I started getting better with my technique and it was like, everything clicked so much better that year. I made my first all pro.

• 1:09:49Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:09:50Speaker 02

  That, that season following me having just an awful year, really catapulted me into what ended up being my career.

• 1:10:01Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  That makes sense.

• 1:10:02Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, hell yeah.

• 1:10:03Speaker 02

  This was really the defining moment was the response I had to almost getting cut, almost like everybody thinking I'm on my way out of the league. Fuck that. I'm gonna go in here. I'm work my ass off.

• 1:10:14Travis Kelce?

  Right.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  I studied my technique, got better with my leverage.

• 1:10:20Speaker 02

  And I came back and it was the best year of my career and we happened to win the Super Bowl on top of it.

• 1:10:25Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  2017, I was on cloud nine. So I didn't have, I didn't break a touchdown record, but I broke the Jason Kelce record for office.

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  That's kind of, that's it for me. Yeah.

• 1:10:37Travis Kelce?

  Okay. For me, oh man, I'd say, the coolest moment was being on the mountain top with Jason, man, playing in the Super Bowl against the, the Eagles the first time and, and being at the Super Bowl with Jason, having our family kind of get put on a pedestal. Our mom was the NFL mom of the, you know, she was on every TV screen left and right.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:00Travis Kelce?

  Cause our two boys were playing each other in the Super Bowl, man. That was, uh, when I look back on some of my favorite memories, man, being on the field, uh, both being captains there for the coin toss, looking at each other from across the, uh, the field, man. It's just, uh, it's a memory I'll never fucking forget. And that was definitely the pinnacle, man. The guy that I started doing this thing with when I was five years old in the backyard, just throwing the ball around.

• 1:11:24Speaker 02

  I don't know if I've ever asked you, the first touchdown you scored against the Philadelphia Eagles, I know you remember it, Travis.

• 1:11:29Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:29Speaker 02

  Was that like you taking out an entire frustration of being a younger brother in one moment?

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  We, I, we gotta pull up the highlight. This dude caught a shovel pass at like the 20.

• 1:11:42Travis Kelce?

  Okay.

• 1:11:43Speaker 02

  Went all the way down and jumped like he lost into the end zone from the five, jumped into the end zone. I had never seen this, like 15 feet.

• 1:11:52Travis Kelce?

  Right. You know, when you, you get the ball on a fast break and you just see the lane? Yeah. And you're just like, I'm going up, I'm taking this.

• 1:12:00Speaker 02

  It was like Jordan, man. Oh gosh.

• 1:12:02Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, no, 100%. Yeah, that was for getting my ass beat. All, all those years when I was younger, I finally had a chance to make it even.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's officially way more athletic than I, it's no question.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

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• 1:12:15Travis Kelce?

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• 1:12:21Speaker 02

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• 1:12:26Travis Kelce?

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• 1:12:49Speaker 02

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• 1:12:52Travis Kelce?

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• 1:12:58Speaker 02

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• 1:13:08Travis Kelce?

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• 1:13:26Travis Kelce?

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• 1:13:47Travis Kelce?

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• 1:13:58Travis Kelce?

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• 1:14:06Speaker 02

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• 1:14:11Travis Kelce?

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• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  Get started today at Planet Fitness or learn more at planetfitness.com. All right, we got to ask you this. You brought up a little bit earlier, Randy. Could you still moss somebody right now?

• 1:14:29Speaker 03

  I joke with our ESPN countdown crew, Rick, Alex, Teddy and Greenie Chaffey every week. And you know, they sit up here and say, hey, man, you look like you can still play.

• 1:14:40Speaker 03

  I really believe the way that they changed the rules of the game. That I could really still go out there and give a team close to double digit touchdowns. I really still believe.

• 1:14:53Speaker 03

  I can still, I can still get up on the rim. I can still dunk a basketball. Okay. Okay. So me just being able to go up and just use my hand eye coordination and body control. And I think that's one of the biggest things because I sit up here and talk about, you got mossed every week. And I talk about the DB getting, not getting his hands around and talk about the hand eye coordination that the wide receiver needs. I think that's very important, you know, as you get older, no matter, you know, you know, how old you get, like Mike Evans is still, you know, still out here making plays. And you think about it, Mike Evans was not always the fastest wide receiver, but as far as his athletic ability, his hand eye coordination, just put it in his,

• 1:15:35Speaker 03

  Jason, just put it in his vicinity. So to answer your question, I still think I can still go out here and maybe get close to, you know, 10, 11 touchdowns a season.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Would you be open to it if a team called, is Randy answering the phone?

• 1:15:48Speaker 03

  Where I'm at right now, as far as, you know, my, you know, happy, happily married, my kids are thriving and, you know, doing their thing. I think for me to have to be the right call, the right team, because the only thing I'm really missing right now is a Super Bowl ring. So if the right call and the right opportunity came and the team gave me an opportunity to come out there, just be a red zone threat, I could put that 84 back on once more.

• 1:16:12Travis Kelce?

  You kidding me, man? You getting me hyped just thinking about you doing this, man? This shit's epic, man. Look what Philip Rivers got everybody thinking we just, just one more, just one more, baby, just one more.

• 1:16:24Speaker 03

  Philip Rivers had everybody around here. He had people like Pat Cam Newton cutting up on his podcast. He had everybody around that played the game of football, really thinking they could put some WD-40 on them joints and still come out here and make something happen.

• 1:16:41Travis Kelce?

  I love it, man. Are there any like quarterbacks right now that you're like, man? I would, I would go crazy playing with that guy.

• 1:16:49Speaker 03

  Quarterback wise, uh, there's a lot of quarterbacks that I like. And the reason why Travis, just because the game has changed.

• 1:16:56Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

  You know, so much of, of, of guys has been in the pocket, but you know, Pat is phenomenal. Um, and not just being this going back there to slinging the ball. One of the things that you said about your quarterback, and I'm not just saying it because you're, you know, we're sitting on this podcast. I just think that a quarterback being able to buy time for his pass catcher is very important. You know, you know, you have guys coming through here like, like Jason, I remember you telling the stories about you going, going against Aaron Donald. You know, all of them, all, I mean, guys are so bigger, faster, stronger now in this, in this day and age, in this game.

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  And, you know, having a quarterback to be able to give you a little bit more time to work your craft is what I look at right now. And I think that if you're just talking about three quarterbacks that comes to mind, I love Joe Burrow's game. Uh, I, I love Patrick Mahomes game. And then of course, you know, I think it'd be, you know, a guy like Josh Allen. I love his game.

• 1:17:58Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, can't beat it.

• 1:17:58Speaker 03

  But, but like I say, I just think just more of the, of the quarterbacks, being able to buy some time because I like I say, you know, you're getting doubled, you're getting tripled. Well, let me work through this double and this triple coverage. And like I say, Travis, you've done it plenty of times. So to answer your question, I think those three guys really stand off the charts right now.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  That'd be a good one right there.

• 1:18:16Travis Kelce?

  Is it true you, uh, never stretch on game day?

• 1:18:18Speaker 03

  The thing about stretching on game day was this. And hopefully you guys can definitely attest to this. It's it's kind of more like getting down and touching your ankles or you know, you know, loosening your hamstrings up. That's not the stretch that I meant. Meaning that if I see you across the room from me, Travis, and you're sitting over there bumping in your headphones, well, I'm a bump with you. Then all of a sudden, we gonna start jumping around. Before we know it, we're both sweating. So, so basically, that's what I meant that I don't stretch on game day. I rely on my brothers to help me stretch. So it's just more of the, you know, the jumping around that we do all the, you know, the, I don't know what it really, well, I mean, some guys have a little

• 1:19:01Speaker 03

  false enthusiasm in there. But like I say, it's just more of getting around your brothers and, and you know, us, you know, bringing, bringing the energy out of one another.

• 1:19:08Travis Kelce?

  Bringing the energy, baby.

• 1:19:09Speaker 03

  That's my stretch.

• 1:19:10Travis Kelce?

  You gotta, you gotta do it together too, man. It's, it's, you can't just let one guy try and be it, man. Everybody's gotta bring it. We got one more for you though, big dog. And then we'll let you get out of here. Um, as someone who's perfected the lateral, I've taken notes from, from the legends of this game.

• 1:19:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:19:25Travis Kelce?

  You, you have one of the most iconic football plays of all time. Could you walk us through that whole play? Was that like a designed situation or?

• 1:19:34Speaker 03

  No, it was really, we, we, we actually, we were playing the Broncos at home. And I remember, you know, of course, the last play. And I think that at the time, my quarterback, Dante, Dante always had a strong arm. But I think in that case, I don't think that Dante could have got it to the end zone from where we were. So he rode out to the right and I remember that it was more like just, just a Hail Mary.

• 1:19:59Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:00Speaker 03

  And so he throws the ball and I get up and catch it. And the one thing about it, you know, being a pass catcher, Travis, like, we have to decide, kind of like at the last minute, do we want to hands it? Or do we want to body it? So it was more like in the situation, the ball was hanging in the air a little too long. And I said, what do I do here? So basically, I bodied the ball. I got up, I bodied it. So when I came down out the side of my peripheral, I see a purple jersey. So.

• 1:20:32Travis Kelce?

  And, and now we're on the court and now I see.

• 1:20:35Speaker 03

  That's the net look. You know the net look. You know the net look. So like I said, man, any, anytime I see that play, it's, it's kind of like. Eleven guys, you know, playing heads of football. Cause like Jason, you said it's not the moment. It's everybody doing their job. So yes, I know that I got the, you know, recognition from throwing it on my head. But Jason, where would I be if you guys, my offensive line at the time would not have held it up for Dante? The, the offensive line, the running backs protection. And that, that, like I say, a lot of the things that we accomplish, you know, on the football field has to do with 10 other guys. That's why I've never,

• 1:21:13Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, you know.

• 1:21:13Speaker 03

  I've never, ever singled myself out as an individual, no matter what the play looks like. I know that 10 other guys have to do their job for me to accomplish mine.

• 1:21:21Travis Kelce?

  Iconic, dog.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  There's been a lot of 10 other guys accomplishing jobs in the NFL. Nobody has ever lateral the ball like that, bro.

• 1:21:31Travis Kelce?

  And nobody ever played the game like Randy Moss, baby. Randy, thank you so much for joining us, dog.

• 1:21:37Speaker 03

  I do not want to get crazy on this, the ending of this show, but to let you guys know what being on this show really means to me. Y'all already know what I was battling, you know, throughout, you know, my cancer and, and just coming up on my one year anniversary. I told you guys about my brother and what, you know, my brother went to Ohio State. My brother ended up dying. I went to the Hall of Fame in 2018. All right. My brother passed away in 2019 and, you know, things wasn't, you know, great as a relationship. When I tell you guys, when I look at you guys and, and see the things you guys love in your relationship.

• 1:22:18Speaker 03

  It's a, when I say that I get jealous about it, it's not a jealousy jealousy. It's more on that I wish I would have had that type of relationship with my brother. And, and the reason why I'm telling you this, because I, I remember after one of, after y'all's game, Trav, you came up and kissed your big brother on a cheek. Do you remember that?

• 1:22:41Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:42Speaker 02

  I remember it.

• 1:22:43Speaker 03

  If there's, if there's anybody in all of sports history, football, basketball, anything that really felt that. Bradley laugh. Hey, you guys, where is it at? Y'all get this though, man.

• 1:22:58Travis Kelce?

  No, man, I love you, dog.

• 1:22:59Speaker 03

  Thanks to y'all, bro. Hey, congratulations on your success, man. This podcast and your career, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Much love to you.

• 1:23:08Travis Kelce?

  God damn, man. What a just a special dude, man.

• 1:23:12Speaker 02

  The best, the absolute best.

• 1:23:14Travis Kelce?

  He's so fucking down to earth and so just himself, man. And he's always just being the most giving person. You know what I mean? If I, he's, he's the most shirt off your back kind of guy, man. And, uh, we gotta get you, we gotta catch some fish with the big guy. I just started getting into the old wildlife, man. Fishing is one of those things, bass fishing specifically, I haven't really done.

• 1:23:34Speaker 02

  I've done a bunch of fly fishing, as you know, Travis. Bass fishing is one thing that I've never done. Everybody raves about it, even fly fishermen. They'll talk about taking poppers down and hitting the bass, especially like in June, July, once they start coming up, water gets, getting warmer, you do some top water fishing and they really attack it. Apparently it's a lot of fun. So we love, I mean, I jump at the chance to bring, catch some fish with Randy Moss. You think Randy's ever mossed a fish?

• 1:24:00Travis Kelce?

  Straight cash, homie.

• 1:24:01Speaker 02

  Come on now.

• 1:24:02Travis Kelce?

  I don't even got to stretch on game day. All right. Well, appreciate Randy Moss for jumping in. Now we got to get to some no dumb questions for you 92 percenters. And, uh, all right now, before we get out of here, it's time for a special edition of no dumb questions brought to you by Hills Pet Nutrition.

• 1:24:18Speaker 02

  We've received a 92% of submission asking us how we would field a football team with dog breeds and we partnered with Hills to make our picks. From Ryan Luch, 9494, okay, anyways, episode two of asking no dumb questions from Northeast Ohio. Hey, shout out to Northeast Ohio. Which dog breed best describes you guys? One for on field and one for off field and the follow up with all of these players as dogs or cats because well, players as dogs, players as dogs, players as breeds of dogs. All right. Um, where are we starting with this?

• 1:24:55Speaker 06

  Uh, since Hills knows there's no such thing as dumb question, especially about pets, let's start with the first question. What is your on field dog breed?

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  Are we repeating this or are you just asking?

• 1:25:05Speaker 06

  I'm asking you, this is going to go in. I'm just going to help. I'm going to walk us through this one.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  What dog breed is me on the field and what dog is?

• 1:25:10Speaker 06

  Who is Jason Kelce on the field as a dog?

• 1:25:12Speaker 02

  Off field, I feel like I'm a bloodhound. Just like that bloodhound on the porch with his lips sagging over the sides of his teeth, like just. Not moving unless he smells something and then he's getting after it and it's time to work.

• 1:25:27Travis Kelce?

  No chance.

• 1:25:28Speaker 06

  I don't, you're so active.

• 1:25:30Travis Kelce?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:25:32Speaker 06

  You're such a liar.

• 1:25:33Travis Kelce?

  No, you have way too much energy.

• 1:25:37Speaker 06

  All over Italy. Look at what you're wearing.

• 1:25:41Speaker 02

  That's when I smell. That's when I smell something. I'm it. When I get a scent, I'm, I'm active.

• 1:25:45Speaker 06

  You're getting a lot of sense. You are getting a lot of sense.

• 1:25:48Speaker 02

  I got a good sense of smell.

• 1:25:49Speaker 06

  Okay, okay, I'll buy it. All right. You taught, you've kind of talked to me like half into it. It's fine. Still, you are not, you present so much lazier than you actually are. You are so fucking busy.

• 1:26:01Speaker 02

  You can ask Kylie. Kylie, Kylie, am I lazy?

• 1:26:05Speaker 02

  Am I lazy?

• 1:26:08Speaker 02

  Am I lazy?

• 1:26:11Travis Kelce?

  See, she said no. She said no.

• 1:26:13Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:26:14Travis Kelce?

  She said no. You're a hardworking man. You are not sitting on the porch.

• 1:26:18Speaker 06

  You are not, no.

• 1:26:19Travis Kelce?

  You're not sitting on the porch waiting for a scent. No, you're a fucking go-getter. You're out there hunting. You're out there hunting.

• 1:26:27Speaker 06

  All right. Who's, who's Travis Kelce?

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  Travis Kelce, off the field. I mean, it's gotta be like a golden retriever, right? It's like, just like.

• 1:26:35Speaker 06

  I buy that.

• 1:26:36Speaker 02

  All-American, freaking great personality. Everybody loves him.

• 1:26:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:26:41Speaker 02

  Like to be active. They'll play fetch.

• 1:26:44Travis Kelce?

  They'll play some fetch.

• 1:26:44Speaker 06

  You throw a ball, Travis is gonna go get it.

• 1:26:46Travis Kelce?

  Harry's fuck. Yeah, I can see that.

• 1:26:48Speaker 06

  Shedding, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  On the field, which one are we going first? Travis?

• 1:26:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, on the field, Travis. Who is he?

• 1:26:54Travis Kelce?

  I don't, damn it. Does it change? It definitely changes. I'm not as nice on the field. I feel like I'm still pretty friendly, but I'm a competitive.

• 1:27:05Speaker 02

  Good ball skills.

• 1:27:06Speaker 06

  You're still kind of like, yeah, you're an active, active one.

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  So we in the retrievers category still?

• 1:27:12Speaker 06

  Short-haired pointer?

• 1:27:13Travis Kelce?

  I mean, you kind of, you kind of threw out the Irish wolfhound out there. And I, at first I said no, because I didn't think they had good hips, because I got really good hips.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  Dude, they can run.

• 1:27:23Travis Kelce?

  They can run. They got some viciousness to them.

• 1:27:26Speaker 02

  They're not big ball skills. They're really not vicious at all, unless it's your ground dog.

• 1:27:30Travis Kelce?

  Okay, well, that's the only time I've, I've only seen them out there playing.

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  No, they don't, they're not interested in chasing balls.

• 1:27:35Travis Kelce?

  You gotta love that as a tight end. You have to love. You ought to love the chasing the balls.

• 1:27:40Speaker 02

  You gotta be willing to do the dirty work.

• 1:27:42Speaker 06

  What about like a German shepherd?

• 1:27:43Travis Kelce?

  I mean, Sherman shepherds could get huge.

• 1:27:45Speaker 02

  They're still like large, but they're not that big.

• 1:27:47Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, don't get me wrong. I'm not fucking, I'm not like the Gronks and the Jimmy Grahams of the world. You know what I mean? Like those guys are like three inches taller than me.

• 1:27:55Speaker 06

  You're six, four and seven eights.

• 1:27:57Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:57Speaker 02

  I feel like you're a great Pyrenees on the field.

• 1:27:59Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  They're like herd protection dogs, right? So I'll put them out with the flock in case any wolves get nearby. So get physical.

• 1:28:07Speaker 06

  I'll give you great Pyrenees. I like great Pyrenees.

• 1:28:09Travis Kelce?

  And I'm a team guy and they run in packs.

• 1:28:11Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:28:12Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:12Speaker 02

  I'm in.

• 1:28:13Travis Kelce?

  All right. I'll take a great Pyrenees.

• 1:28:15Speaker 06

  Great Pyrenees, because they also like from a distance can kind of give you a lab look. They're just much bigger. I like that.

• 1:28:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:28:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, they're friendly as shit, too. Everybody's got one. No, they can be.

• 1:28:24Speaker 02

  I think they can be. They can. They can be, but they're also like they were bred to protect.

• 1:28:29Travis Kelce?

  We're the Pyrenees Mountains.

• 1:28:31Speaker 06

  Now we're way sidetracked.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  Are there Pyrenees Mountains?

• 1:28:34Travis Kelce?

  That's why they're the Pyrenees.

• 1:28:36Speaker 02

  Oh, didn't know that.

• 1:28:38Speaker 06

  Southwest Europe, between France and Spain.

• 1:28:41Travis Kelce?

  There you go. Yeah.

• 1:28:42Speaker 06

  All right. Who's Jason on the field?

• 1:28:43Travis Kelce?

  Jason on the field?

• 1:28:44Speaker 06

  What dog is Jason on the field?

• 1:28:46Travis Kelce?

  Dude, he's a special breed O line. So it's like, you gotta have, I don't know what, see, I don't know dog breeds like this. I need help.

• 1:28:52Speaker 06

  I'll do a Mastiff. I like a Mastiff.

• 1:28:55Speaker 02

  Feel like a commandor protector. It's gotta be another herding dog.

• 1:28:59Speaker 06

  Trying to look at the herd. I'm looking at the herding group here. What about a Belgian Malinois?

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  Not bad.

• 1:29:04Travis Kelce?

  The herding? Why do we want a herding?

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  Oh, like you're an offensive lineman. You're kind of like, you're in the protection realm.

• 1:29:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, I buy that.

• 1:29:13Speaker 02

  But there's like herding dogs. You can't be as athletic as a great Pyrenees. Oh, have you ever heard of, um, oh my gosh, it looks like a fucking, it looks like a lion. It might be called something a lion.

• 1:29:22Travis Kelce?

  You're talking about a Chow Chow?

• 1:29:24Speaker 02

  No, it's like an African.

• 1:29:25Travis Kelce?

  It looks like a lion?

• 1:29:26Speaker 02

  I think it's called something African. Maybe it's Alaskan, something with an A.

• 1:29:33Travis Kelce?

  I'm thinking like something that isn't like overly like athletic, just like is going to stand its ground.

• 1:29:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:29:40Travis Kelce?

  And gonna protect the house. You know what I mean?

• 1:29:42Speaker 02

  Tibetan Mastiff.

• 1:29:44Speaker 06

  Tibetan Mastiff.

• 1:29:45Speaker 02

  You ever seen them suckers?

• 1:29:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's a big boy.

• 1:29:50Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I can see it.

• 1:29:51Speaker 06

  Oh, man, that's a Jason dog. Look at that guy.

• 1:29:54Speaker 02

  Trying to figure out the hairy one.

• 1:29:56Speaker 06

  Look at that guy. That's a Jason.

• 1:29:58Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, ancient guard dog. Hell, yeah. That's our fucking guy right there.

• 1:30:03Speaker 06

  That's Jason Kelce.

• 1:30:06Speaker 06

  Pulling around the edge. That's Jason Kelce, Tibetan Mastiff. Let's go.

• 1:30:10Travis Kelce?

  I knew there was some sort of Mastiff. I knew I was on the right track.

• 1:30:12Speaker 02

  All right, where are we at?

• 1:30:13Speaker 06

  Uh, we can, we can click. What's, what's the rest of a football team? What, what are we looking for in a quarterback?

• 1:30:18Speaker 02

  Quarterback, you want a good leader.

• 1:30:21Travis Kelce?

  See, that's the, that's that German Shepherd.

• 1:30:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was about to say German Shepherd. I would say Border Collie, but I don't know that has the size. Border Collie would be a good safety.

• 1:30:30Speaker 06

  I think Border Collie is safety or defensive back.

• 1:30:32Speaker 02

  You see it go after the freaking, uh, frisbees. Like they're very good in space.

• 1:30:35Speaker 06

  Cause I was also thinking Jack Russell on defense too.

• 1:30:37Speaker 02

  Jack Russell?

• 1:30:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, they're scrappy. No, they're scrappy little guys. Put him at.

• 1:30:42Speaker 02

  Where else are they going?

• 1:30:43Speaker 06

  What do you mean?

• 1:30:44Speaker 02

  Where else would you put him?

• 1:30:44Speaker 06

  Oh, I'm not putting him on offense.

• 1:30:47Speaker 02

  No, on defense.

• 1:30:47Speaker 06

  Oh, I think if you got a defensive back or like in your nickel?

• 1:30:51Speaker 02

  I would say maybe a nickel.

• 1:30:52Speaker 06

  Maybe a nickel.

• 1:30:55Speaker 02

  Play outside. Jack Russell, it's like a little small dog.

• 1:30:59Speaker 06

  The dog from Mask.

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  I think they were bred to like hunt mice, maybe?

• 1:31:02Speaker 06

  They will wreck some mice.

• 1:31:04Travis Kelce?

  I don't know. I love those dogs. Those dogs don't, they don't need to be on the football field.

• 1:31:08Speaker 06

  Oh, wow. No, I'm telling you, they play, they play bigger than their size.

• 1:31:12Travis Kelce?

  Who are they guarding?

• 1:31:13Speaker 06

  Who's our wide receivers? What receiver? Okay. So if we're going German Shepherd, German Shepherd quarterback, what are you putting out there wide out? Greyhounds?

• 1:31:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:21Speaker 02

  I wonder with greyhounds, if they don't have great, uh, ball skills.

• 1:31:23Travis Kelce?

  Dobermans.

• 1:31:24Speaker 02

  I was gonna say Dobermans or DNs, right?

• 1:31:27Speaker 06

  They got that big chest on them too.

• 1:31:28Speaker 02

  It could be linebackers, maybe?

• 1:31:30Speaker 06

  It could be linebackers.

• 1:31:31Travis Kelce?

  It feels like more of a defensive position. I kind of like.

• 1:31:34Speaker 02

  Doberman feels like a defensive dog, right?

• 1:31:36Speaker 06

  So who's your wide outs?

• 1:31:37Speaker 02

  I want a Belgian Malinois as all my linebackers.

• 1:31:40Speaker 06

  They're very good dogs.

• 1:31:41Travis Kelce?

  I like Border Collie as a corner.

• 1:31:43Speaker 06

  Border Collie is a corner. That's good.

• 1:31:45Speaker 02

  I don't think they got speed.

• 1:31:46Speaker 06

  Border Collies?

• 1:31:47Travis Kelce?

  Bro, they fucking fly.

• 1:31:49Speaker 02

  Not compared to like a taller dog.

• 1:31:51Travis Kelce?

  Dude, they fucking fly.

• 1:31:53Speaker 06

  They can move. Border Collies can move.

• 1:31:55Speaker 02

  They can move, but I think they're more safety movement. I don't think they're corner. Corner's gotta be like the fastest dog breed.

• 1:32:00Travis Kelce?

  So what do you put in there?

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  That's where your greyhounds come in or greyhounds might be too, they might not be agile enough.

• 1:32:05Travis Kelce?

  That's what I'm saying. That thing.

• 1:32:06Speaker 06

  Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Okay. Have you met a greyhound?

• 1:32:12Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 1:32:12Speaker 06

  Greyhounds don't have that dog in them. They're very skittish.

• 1:32:15Travis Kelce?

  Never met a greyhound. I've been on the greyhound so many times though.

• 1:32:19Speaker 06

  Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

• 1:32:20Travis Kelce?

  Love the bus.

• 1:32:21Speaker 06

  Okay. Where are we at? What about running back? What do you want at running back?

• 1:32:24Speaker 02

  Linebacker's gotta be Belgium out.

• 1:32:25Travis Kelce?

  What's the one, not the German shepherd, but there's another dog breed that is fucking unbelievable. More athletic than a shepherd, but a little bit.

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  Vissla, Vissla's are my corners. Those things can fucking haul ass. They're agile as shit. I might even put a wide out.

• 1:32:40Speaker 06

  Ooh, that's a good choice.

• 1:32:42Travis Kelce?

  Vissla?

• 1:32:43Speaker 02

  Whip it at wide out.

• 1:32:46Speaker 06

  Whip it's like your Darren Sprouls, kind of line him with a lot of plays, little kind of sneaking in. I want to throw.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  What kind of offense are we running? If we're on the Shanahan style offense, they'll put a whip at a running back and it'll get yards.

• 1:32:56Speaker 06

  Okay. So we've got quarterback. We got running. Wait, did we sign on running backs?

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  We did not say running back.

• 1:33:00Speaker 06

  Running backs. Okay.

• 1:33:01Speaker 02

  I'm trying to think of a dog that has that mentality. I mean, I guess maybe we're putting Doberman on defense, right?

• 1:33:07Speaker 06

  Yeah. Doberman's on defense.

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  Border collie wouldn't be a bad running back.

• 1:33:10Speaker 06

  Border collie's not a bad, but I feel like I want border collie going out.

• 1:33:13Speaker 02

  I can see border collie at receiver. They're like the number one frisbee dogs on the planet. Yeah. Gotta be receiver.

• 1:33:17Speaker 06

  Border collie, Weimaraner. What are Rhodesian Ridgeback? Is that too big? Run power with him. Weimaraner's not a bad one either. You also have the Australian shepherd. You could run the Australian shepherd out of your backfield. Keep the border collie on defense. Australian shepherd's what you want out of the backfield.

• 1:33:31Speaker 02

  It's too pretty.

• 1:33:33Speaker 06

  Running backs can be pretty. Oh, Jake just said Dalmatian for running back. I don't love that.

• 1:33:37Travis Kelce?

  Ew.

• 1:33:39Speaker 06

  Yeah. That's why Jake's not invited to this. Australian cattle dog? Kind of another like herding breed? Low to the ground?

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  I just feel he's gotta be a little bit bigger.

• 1:33:46Speaker 06

  You're running one power out of this thing.

• 1:33:48Speaker 02

  What's the blue healer?

• 1:33:49Speaker 06

  Ooh, I'll do a blue healer.

• 1:33:51Speaker 02

  It's not a bad.

• 1:33:52Speaker 06

  I'll do a blue healer.

• 1:33:53Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 1:33:54Speaker 06

  What about like dogs that are sled pullers? What about like a husky or a malamute?

• 1:33:57Speaker 02

  Husky's not a bad choice.

• 1:33:59Speaker 06

  I don't hate husky. I mean, I think that's the team, boys. I think we got it.

• 1:34:02Speaker 02

  Do we say whatever D tackles? We didn't do D tackle?

• 1:34:04Speaker 06

  Ooh, D tackles. Yeah. Maybe that's your Chow.

• 1:34:06Speaker 02

  I mean, that's gotta be your big, just fat, freaking.

• 1:34:09Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Saint Bernard.

• 1:34:10Speaker 02

  Saint Bernard was the thing I was thinking too.

• 1:34:12Travis Kelce?

  Beethoven.

• 1:34:12Speaker 02

  Just drooling and getting freaking. Slobber all over the place.

• 1:34:17Speaker 06

  Saint Bernard, defensive tackle. I think we're good. That's our team.

• 1:34:20Speaker 02

  It's not a bad team.

• 1:34:20Speaker 06

  Okay, I'm being asked to recap the team real quick. Sorry. At quarterback, we had German Shepherd. Running back, we did Husky. Let's do a sledding dog. Our wide receivers, what did we throw out there? That was our.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  Uh, Border Collie.

• 1:34:31Speaker 06

  Border Collie.

• 1:34:32Travis Kelce?

  Didn't we say the Greyhounds?

• 1:34:33Speaker 02

  Uh, I thought we said Greyhounds don't have good ball skills. We can do both. Greyhounds and we have one Greyhound, one Border Collie.

• 1:34:39Speaker 06

  There you go.

• 1:34:39Travis Kelce?

  Border Collie for sure, though.

• 1:34:40Speaker 02

  Got a Greyhound to take the roof off the thing, but then Border Collie can freaking run all the way up.

• 1:34:44Travis Kelce?

  That's a good call. Good call.

• 1:34:45Speaker 06

  Running the crossing routes, crossing routes with the Border Collie.

• 1:34:47Speaker 02

  We can all look the same.

• 1:34:48Speaker 06

  Yeah. Tight ends, what do we have?

• 1:34:49Speaker 02

  Great Pyrenees.

• 1:34:50Speaker 06

  Great Pyrenees. Uh, all right, one minute in here. Defensive tackle, Saint Bernard. Defensive ends, we had our Dobermans. Linebackers were Malinois, safety Border Collie.

• 1:34:59Speaker 02

  Vissel's at corner.

• 1:35:00Speaker 06

  Vissel's at corner. Okay, that's a team.

• 1:35:09Travis Kelce?

  They're singing the national anthem.

• 1:35:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. You tell them we're watching the Olympics?

• 1:35:13Speaker 06

  And that is our time to wrap the segment.

• 1:35:16Travis Kelce?

  Oh, we're just getting started.

• 1:35:17Speaker 02

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• 1:35:29Travis Kelce?

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• 1:35:35Speaker 02

  All right. And that's it for this episode of New Heights. Thank you to Randy Moss. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

• 1:35:51Travis Kelce?

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• 1:36:27Speaker 02

  Randy came on and we talked to him about the Edelnut story, the infamous giving you the nickname Edelnut. And he gave us a little more information. He said he was actually on the phone with his mother and you were swearing. And that's why he called you Edelnut, because you were being a little, were you swearing in front of Mrs. Moss?

• 1:36:44Speaker 07

  Let me clarify this story. This is on Christmas, Christmas Day.

• 1:36:48Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 1:36:48Speaker 07

  We're in a locker room. It's Christmas, you know, early day, no post meetings. We get to go have a good dinner with the boys. Everyone's jolly in the locker room. I go to Randy, I go, hey Randy. And I can hear he's talking to his mom. I said, tell my momma, I said Merry Christmas. Randy goes to me and he goes, Edelnut, if you ever talk to me while I'm talking to my motherfucking mom, I will slap the shit out of you. Or something. And I'm a rookie. I was so scared. I was like, oh man. I just disappointed him on Christmas. What's going on? I probably was cussing. I'm sorry, Mrs. Moss, if you heard any cuss words.