Ryan Holiday on Bill Maher: Why Stoicism Is Having a Moment

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• 0:00Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

• 0:15Ryan Holiday?

  Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. Had a cool experience a couple of weeks ago. Hopped on a plane, flew to LA, got there pretty late at night. Woke up that morning, went for a long run, and then worked in my hotel room until about 3:00 or 4:00 in the afternoon. And I went over to, I guess, what used to be the CBS lot there. And I sat down and talked Stoicism with Bill Maher on Real Time with Bill Maher. I thought, actually, originally, they were inviting me to be one of the guests on the panel, which I have watched many, many times over the years. You probably have as well. I thought that's what they were asking.

• 0:57Ryan Holiday?

  No, that was actually the interview at the top of the show, that the main segment. It was really cool. Everyone there was just unbelievably kind. I walk in the dressing room, and there's an Iron Maiden poster on the wall and an Iron Maiden shirt. The people had just been unbelievably nice. It was so cool. And look, they'd prepped me for it, for sure. They were like, "Look, he doesn't give easy interviews. It's not going to be softballs. He's going to test you a little bit. He's going to tease you a little bit. You've got to be ready for that." But they were like, "Look, at the end of the day, this is the stuff he's interested in. He loves history, he loves philosophy, so if you can gel, like, it'll work."

• 1:40Ryan Holiday?

  And one of the things I wanted to do was like, talk to people who knew him, who'd been on there. You don't just go in there cold. So I asked a bunch of comedian friends that I know and have known over the years, Whitney Cummings, who just introduced him and spoke at the Mark Twain Award, which he was accepting. I asked some other comedians that I know here in Austin. I got really good advice. She was like, "Be prepared for him to just say something that will totally throw you. And then if you can handle that, then you're good. Then you've proven you can hang." And that was pretty much exactly how it went. And look, I was really nervous. I mean, you're sitting in the green room, presidents, vice presidents, actors, directors, entrepreneurs, aspiring leaders,

• 2:25Ryan Holiday?

  all sorts of people have been on this show over the almost 30 years that it's been on. And I was nervous. I ran through some Stoic lessons before I went on. I was actually in the green room with a friend of mine, and I was sort of riffing on some Stoic lessons before you're about to go on live TV in front of a live studio audience, which is pretty intimidating. Actually, here's what I put together. So I'm about to go on Real Time with Bill Maher. Here are five Stoic things I'm thinking about. The first is, how do you prepare? The Stoics talked about premeditatio malorum, the premeditation of evils. I talked to all the comics I know. I talked to people who know Bill. I watched episodes of the show. Like, when Seneca said, "The unexpected below lands heaviest", he's talking about not being caught off guard by what might happen.

• 3:10Ryan Holiday?

  So you want to know what you're in for. The second one has to do with that, which is, Marx realist talks about, he says, "What is clapping? What is cheering?" There's going to be a live audience in there. He says, "Clapping and cheering are the clacking of tongues and the smacking of hands. It's not worth pandering to. It's not worth obsessing over. Hopefully, they like what I say. Hopefully, they cheer and clap. But if they don't, it doesn't mean anything to me." The third one is this idea that ego is the enemy, which the Stoics talk about over and over and over again. Don't let things puff you up. Don't think that you're important. Don't think that anyone knows who you are or what you have to say. Go in there and be willing. Prove yourself. Explain yourself. Make what you have to say interesting, which is another important thing. Zeno talked about how we have two ears and one mouth for a reason. You always want to make sure you don't talk over the person.

• 3:55Ryan Holiday?

  You don't talk too much. You listen. It's supposed to be a good conversation. The fourth, Marx realist talks about, says, "A rock gains nothing by going up and loses nothing by coming down." None of this stuff says anything about you. It's wonderful to have career success. It's wonderful to be recognized. It's wonderful to have cool opportunities. But it doesn't say anything about you as a person. And I think when you think about that, it allows you to just relax, be in the moment, and do what you have to do. The fifth one is, Epictetus says, "You want to be able to go into every situation and say, 'This is what I trained for.'" So the question is, like, did you do the work? You don't just show up and have good answers on the fly. This is a result of practice. It's a result of doing the work. You don't have ego. You have confidence. You have confidence because you have done the work.

• 4:39Ryan Holiday?

  And then, you know, all of a sudden, they sort of, okay, we're going to mic you up. You walk down the hall, and you're standing there right in the wings. And then you hear your intro, and then boom, you're on live TV in front of a live audience. Then all of a sudden, you're out there, and you're just in it. And I think we had a great conversation. Let me bring you a chunk of that.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  So what do you think now, here? Why are you having so much success with this? Why do you think this is the moment where it caught? To me, you know, it does kind of make sense that people who, especially the younger generations, who think they're in so much pain.

• 5:16Ryan Holiday?

  Yeah.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  We both laughed at that.

• 5:20Ryan Holiday?

  Yeah, totally.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  But it fits.

• 5:22Ryan Holiday?

  Yes. Look, I think one of the reasons Stoicism is working is because it has been tried and tested over 25 centuries. It's a merciless process of the crucible of human experience, testing these ideas and refining them. But I think the reason it's having a moment, particularly today, is we are seeing a collapse in the other institutions and ideologies that used to shape and direct people. People aren't going to church as much. They see that there is a dearth of great leaders and moral examples. And so we're looking backwards to people who, from a previous time, seemed to have figured it out, wrote something down, have something to share and teach us. And it would be wonderful if these ideas were taught in school, but they're not.

• 6:07Ryan Holiday?

  And so people wake up and they go, especially, I think, young men. They wake up and they go, "Well, I know what I don't want to be. But who should I be? What should I do?" And they're desperate for advice. And that is a void that if we don't fill, Andrew Tate fills.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 6:30Ryan Holiday?

  Did my segment that I went back to the green room. Then the two guests did the main part of the show. Andrew Cuomo and Kristin Saltz Anderson were on. And then afterwards, they bring you back out, and you do an overtime segment where you riff about, which was also cool. That was us talking Stoicism and politics and culture, how we deal with disagreements. And yeah, I thought it was great. Thanks to the folks at Bill Maher for having me on. They were so nice. They sent my grandmother, who is a huge fan of the show, like this giant bag of Bill Maher and Real Time swag, which, like, seriously, the people were just so incredibly nice. It was awesome. Thanks to Bill for having me on the show. And then my plane was just delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed.

• 7:15Ryan Holiday?

  I got home at 3:00 in the morning, I believe, and woke up and tried to have a normal Saturday with the family. And now I'm bringing you that episode. Let's get into it.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  All right, our panel, the host of the Daily Stoic Podcast and best-owning author of wisdom takes work, Ryan Holiday. The former Democratic governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo. And she's a CNN contributor and poster at Charlotte Inside, Kristin Saltz Anderson. Okay. First one is from the people for you, Ryan. Which book do you think should every American read? Good question. I heard Obama's going to have a podcast just about books. He's, you know, Oprah thing, book club. I think it's people reading books. The books are like a dinosaurs now. What is that? What book do you think every?

• 8:03Ryan Holiday?

  I mean, it's an obvious pick, but I think Gatsby is the greatest American novel, maybe the greatest one in English. You don't agree?

• 8:09Speaker 01

  I could not disagree more.

• 8:10Ryan Holiday?

  What?

• 8:11Speaker 01

  You know, it's a, okay, it's a pretty good book. They've made it into a movie so many times, and it always sucks. And the last time, and the last time I watched it and it sucked, I went, "Maybe it's the book."

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Well, why do you think it's so great?

• 8:34Ryan Holiday?

  To me, Gatsby is the American dream. And it's also, you know, the careless people smashing things up.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  Careless?

• 8:41Ryan Holiday?

  The green light is the aspiration. I like that. Trying to get back to a simpler time. And at the same time, we also have the carelessness of the rich, the indifference of the rich, the ridiculousness of the rich. And then, you know, speaking of books, you know, my favorite scene is they walk into the library, and he has this enormous display of books. And then Caraway finds out none of them have ever actually been opened. The pages haven't been cut, which is how books were. You know, we talk a lot about books. People have opinions about books. People have opinions about The Odyssey. But if people actually read them, they actually read them more than once, you know, I think there's something there, too.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  I have a lot of books in my house I haven't read. I guess, I just love the way books look. I have a whole, I do. They do. I've read books. I've read plenty of books, but like, a lot of books I haven't read.

• 9:30Ryan Holiday?

  Do you organize them by color? How do you organize them?

• 9:32Speaker 01

  I organize them by color. Wow, I'm anal. I'm not that bad. No, I like it, the fact that there's all different colors. It makes for a wall. Nothing else makes a wall, I think. It's a great look, but that's me. Book, what book would you recommend?

• 9:47Speaker 02

  I would recommend C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters. And while it is a Christian book, it's not a, like, proselytizing book. It's a book about what goes on in the mind when you are being tempted away from your values and how we think somebody's temptation to do something bad is like, it's obvious. And instead, it's about how like, the little voice inside your head, just tiny little things, little annoyances, like, can lead you down a path away from what you truly believe is important.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  I always thought C.S. Lewis was Christian proselytizing.

• 10:20Speaker 02

  Well, it is a Christian book, and I don't think it's, it's not hiding it whatsoever, but it's not a book that is intended to be about, "Here's why Christianity is great." It's a book that's like, "Here's why the devil is..."

• 10:31Speaker 01

  So if I read it, on which page would I throw it against the wall?

• 10:34Speaker 02

  I don't know if you would. I don't think you would. That's my problem with you. Give me the cry.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  I'm kidding.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Andrew, what's your favorite book?

• 10:42Speaker 03

  I'd have a book just for Democrats.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Boy, you are true blue.

• 10:48Speaker 03

  Reason, even bluer. Reason to Believe by Mario Cuomo, God rest his soul.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Oh, gee.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  My father. And it was, it is a very succinct read of what the Democratic Party is supposed to be about, with the heart and soul and a mission of the Democratic Party was supposed to be about. And we've lost that. Reason to Believe, Mario Cuomo. He was a great voice for it, but he was a better writer about it.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  Okay, that's your dad.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  Panel, ¿cuáles son tus pensamientos sobre Trump diciendo que declarará el Estadio de Hormuz como territorio de Estados Unidos?

• 11:32Speaker 01

  No puedo mantenerme en contacto con este tipo. Cada día hay una nueva versión del Estadio de Hormuz. Es como Mary Hartman.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  Ahora será un territorio de Estados Unidos. Wow. Bueno, pero parece que ni siquiera controlamos.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  No, significa nada. Significa nada. Como cualquier otra declaración. Significa nada. Tenemos paz, tenemos guerra. Voy a bombardear. No voy a bombardear. Tenemos un acuerdo. No tenemos un acuerdo.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  ¿Qué piensa el panel de los informes de que los barcos de la USS Abraham Lincoln han intentado saltar a bordo a pesar de las terribles condiciones en un récord de 250 días consecutivos en el mar? Eso hace que mi sangre se caliente.

• 12:13Ryan Holiday?

  ¿No dijo Trump hoy que no ha estado en el mar suficiente? Eso es lo que dijo. Su respuesta fue que no ha estado en el mar suficiente. Este es un tipo que supuestamente apoya las tropas. Esto es... Estar lejos de tu familia por tanto tiempo durante una guerra que no deberíamos estar en en absoluto. Por cierto, estamos perdiendo.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Lo que está pensando es 250 días. No han ido acostumbrados a ello todavía. Eso es lo que está pensando. Es bizarro.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  He usado esta frase antes, pero los republicanos tienen esta inmunidad patriota. Como pueden hacer cosas que son tan unpatriotas y no parecen pagar un precio por ello de la manera que un demócrata lo haría. Cuando escucho informes de tropas en un barco donde las baños no funcionan y no hay suficiente comida y son tan morosos sobre esto que al menos uno de ellos saltó del barco, simplemente hace que mi sangre se caliente.

• 13:12Speaker 02

  También es por eso que es tan importante que si vas a hacer algo como comprometer a tropas estadounidenses en una guerra donde la guerra es el infierno, tiene que ser por una razón. Es una muy buena razón que has comunicado muy bien a todos los involucrados y para que estos soldados se sientan en el barco no solo están siendo let down por las condiciones reales en las que están sino también no sientan que están allí para ningún tipo de misión que valga la lucha.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  No estoy de acuerdo con eso. Hubo una misión que valía la lucha. Lo hicimos mal como lo hicimos. Irán teniendo una arma nuclear. Irán siendo el actor en el Medio Oriente que ha hecho todo en esa región durante los últimos 50 años. Cambiar esa dinámica no fue una cosa unreasonable de probar. Lo hicieron en el momento equivocado. Lo hicieron mal. Deberían haberlo hecho cuando las personas estuvieran en las calles. No lo hicieron y ahora estamos aquí donde estamos.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  Bueno, estoy de acuerdo contigo que el mundo está mejor con Irán no teniendo un programa nuclear. Que estamos mejor, que hemos quitado una enorme cantidad de sus capacidades. Pero ahora nos hemos metido en una situación donde la gente está desplegada en el Medio Oriente que, thankfully, no hay casi tantos como solían estar regresando a casa durante Irak y Afganistán, pero todavía estamos perdiendo vidas estadounidenses.

• 14:33Speaker 01

  Lo sé. Estamos alejándonos del punto, que es que... Un billón de dólares. Un presupuesto de defensa de un billón de dólares y no puedes poner comida en un cargador de avión. Es solo... Alguno de ellos habla de competencia. Y eso debería ir por la cadena, como dicen en el ejército.

• 14:49Speaker 03

  Eso es casi increíble. Primero, que no estableció el caso para el pueblo estadounidense antes de que comenzara. Creo que fue un gran error. Porque tienes razón, había un caso para establecer. Solo no lo hizo. Era solo en Israel ayer y ahora vamos a hacer esto.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  No, lo hizo.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Sí, una vez que comenzó y luego no estábamos preparados. Tenemos el más grande ejército del mundo. ¿Cómo vamos a salir de las armas? Es increíble.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Andrew, ¿hay un uso legítimo...? Sé por qué esto es para ti. Porque estás en este negocio ahora. Estás en el negocio de la criptografía. ¿Hay un uso legítimo de la realidad para las criptomonedas o es solo un aveno para criminales y corruptos políticos? No creo que quieran decirte eso.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  Pero estás en... Es tan interesante para mí lo que hacen los políticos. Como John Boehner dejó la política y se metió en el negocio de la pata. Yo y él estamos en el mismo negocio ahora.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  Lo somos.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Los Woods, el mejor supermercado de la pata. Está en la Plaza de Santa Monica. John Boehner... John Boehner se metió en psicódicos. No, Rick Perry se metió en psicódicos. Ese es su negocio ahora. Rick Perry, exgobernador de Texas. Tú entraste en la criptografía. ¿Por qué quieres entrar en un negocio tan sucio?

• 16:07Speaker 03

  Sí, bueno, el negocio sucio es un broad statement. En 2014, me interesé en la industria. Fui gobernador de Nueva York. Fueron los primeros en regularlo. Porque la tecnología... La tecnología financiera es revolucionaria y puede hacer cosas geniales, geniales, si se usa correctamente. Esta tecnología blockchain y estos contratos inteligentes puede hacer que las transacciones sean más rápidas, más baratas, más accesibles para la gente. Trabajo con una empresa llamada OKX. Justo hicimos una asociación con ICE, que es el Comité de Comercio de Nueva York, que creo que es el mejor comercio del mundo. Dice como un nuevo yorker arrogante.

• 16:48Speaker 03

  Pero podrás comprar una acción tokenizada 24/7 globalmente con la securitización tokenizada. Es decir, va a cambiar la industria entera, pero tiene que ser hecho bien. Y tiene que ser regulado y tiene que ser limpio.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  Pero el punto es que no está regulado. Esa es la razón por la que comenzaron, porque no quieren regulación.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Solo en este país. Solo en este país. Europa, 30 países están de acuerdo en un sistema regulatorio común. Tienen un regulador común. No podemos conseguir que el Senado y la Cámara estén de acuerdo en nuestras propias regulaciones en este país. Eso es lo que pasó aquí. Todavía no tenemos regulaciones en place. Esa es la controversia sobre la Claridad Act que se suponía que se aprobaría y finalmente poner regulaciones.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Bueno, lo que sea aquí, sé que se usa por hackers y traficantes de sexo y secuestradores. ¿Me equivoco?

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Bueno, también se usa por...

• 17:49Speaker 01

  ¿Cuál es la visión estoica sobre la criptografía? ¿En serio? ¿De dónde vienen los estoicos?

• 17:58Ryan Holiday?

  La línea del Senado era que está bien ser rico siempre que su dinero no esté contaminado con sangre. Así que importa qué industria estás en. Importa cómo ganas tu dinero. Importa con quién estás en el negocio. Así que creo que hay algunas cosas sketchy sobre la industria y probablemente haya una razón por la que nuestro presidente la gusta tanto.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Bueno, es...

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Eso es lo que hay, Andrew.

• 18:22Speaker 03

  Eso es por lo que tiene que ser hecho bien. Por eso tiene que ser regulado. Por eso tiene que ser limpio. Por eso tiene que ser cumplido. Antes de ser gobernador...

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Tenemos eso. Como el dinero mismo. No existe tampoco. Todo se trata de que simplemente lo creemos. Simplemente creemos que el banco tiene el dinero. Realmente no tienen el dinero, ¿verdad? ¿Entonces cuál es el punto de tener esta nueva cosa que está en el aire y en nuestros mentes? Porque eso es regulado.

• 18:47Speaker 03

  Estás enfocando en las monedas. Estoy enfocando en la tecnología. La tecnología es diferente. Es tecnología de crédito digital. Es instantánea. Es más rápido, es más barato. Y permitirá que las transacciones financieras sean disruptivas porque reducirá el costo reduciendo los intermediarios. Pero literalmente, trading en el mercado 24/7 trayendo trillones de dólares a este país.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  Pero moviéndose rápidamente, ¿no también sería una cosa mala? Porque parece que recuerdo cuando hay una especie de rato en el mercado lo que tienen que hacer es freírlo porque de lo contrario...

• 19:27Speaker 03

  El comercio todavía tendrá cheques. Todavía tendrán cheques en él.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Entonces, ¿podemos hacer eso? Podemos detener el trading.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Va a pasar por ICE, que es el mayor comercio global. Comercio de Nueva York...

• 19:40Speaker 03

  Diferente ICE. El Comercio Intercontinental, que es el Comité de Comercio de Nueva York.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  Bien, terminaremos con esto. Ryan, ¿hay líderes modernos que crees que están haciendo un buen trabajo modelando las virtudes estoicas? Buena pregunta.

• 19:54Ryan Holiday?

  Bueno, creo que hoy en día obviamente vemos más gente modelando el opuesto de estoicismo. Tienes a tus Elon Musks del mundo que se despiertan todos los días, freaken de cosas que no están en su control. Uno de mis estoicos modernos es que la mayoría de las personas a las que escribo son muertos. Pero creo que el general Mattis no es solo un embodiment of the idea, sino que él famosamente lleva a los estoicos con él en sus desplazamientos. Y ciertamente, viendo esta situación desplegada ahora, nos olvidamos de ese tipo de supervisión adulta en el Pentágono estos días.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  Sí, quiero decir, Elon, mucha gente dice, bueno, es la conversación de ketamina cuando hace cosas locas.

• 20:31Ryan Holiday?

  También es la red social. Es para el cerebro.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  Sí, él no... No está fuera de la escuela. Habló de su uso de drogas. ¿Hay un lugar dentro del estoicismo para hacer drogas?

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Me pregunto si hay un amigo.

• 20:52Ryan Holiday?

  Puedo apuntarte a una filosofía llamada epicureanism. Parece más tu estilo. Pero tienen más en común que hacen diferencias.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  Bien, muchas gracias. Fueron muy divertidos. Fueron fantásticos. Nos vemos la próxima semana. Gracias, señoras y señores.