#155 - Demi Adejuyigbe

Demi Adejuyigbe joins the pod to discuss his new special "Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do 1 (One) Backflip" (out 11/19 on Dropout TV), his obsession with baking, roommate kitchen wars, why movies don’t do Shallow Hal-type fat suits after 9/11, the expansive oeuvre of Marlon Wayans, and much more. Demi and Stav help callers including a guy who is put off by his buddy after he braggingly confessed to cheating on his girlfriend, and a woman who’s wondering if she has to go to every single of her boyfriend’s frequent family events. Watch Demi Adejuyigbe’s new special “Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do 1 (One) Backflip” at Dropout TV on 11/19: https://www.dropout.tv/ See Demi Adejuyigbe live and follow him on social media: https://demiadejuyigbe.com/ https://www.instagram.com/electrolemon/ https://x.com/electrolemon https://www.youtube.com/@demiadejuyigbe Thank you to our sponsors! Shopify - https://www.shopify.com/stavvy Aura Frames - https://auraframes.com/stavvy use code STAVVY ☎️ Have a question for a regular episode? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice! 🎟️ See Stavvy live on the Dreamboat Tour 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets ‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld

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• 1:31Stavros Halkias?

  Hoppa! Welcome, everybody, to Stavie's World. 904-800-STOP. Call in, we'll solve all your problems. We got Demia Dijewi Bay on the couch. Thanks for coming, big dog.

• 1:43Speaker 03

  Thank you for being here. There's such a large audience in front. That's not a soundboard.

• 1:47Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, no, the bedroom goes back. The bedroom goes real back. We are here, this is actually the first time... You know, listeners of the show know that we have since rented half of the studio to our friends who just live here.

• 2:02Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:02Stavros Halkias?

  But this is the first time they've been going about their business and are just in their living room, listening to a podcast happen.

• 2:08Speaker 03

  I feel like they should have free rein to pop in and wait a roommate would.

• 2:13Stavros Halkias?

  That's true. Just fucking be like, did you take, well, my roommates would be like, hey, um, did you see where my, insert literally anything, toilet paper. I mean, not that I would.

• 2:23Speaker 03

  Hey, we need to have a, I would love to just talk real quick about the dish situation.

• 2:26Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 2:28Speaker 03

  I don't want to be, I don't want to be that guy, but like, we all live here, man.

• 2:31Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, dude, I am a much better, my podcast is a much better roommate than I am. Because I really, I truly was, I, and just, it's just, it's just reality. I'm the guy who, I'm the guy who set the floor. I'm like, broken window theory. Giuliani was like, one broken window and it's like, just crime just happens.

• 2:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:51Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know that that's true of society, but in a fucking small apartment, one guy doesn't do his dishes.

• 2:57Speaker 03

  Everything.

• 2:57Stavros Halkias?

  Every, one guy leaves a fucking shirt on the ground and believe me, I was the bad element in every single apartment I've ever been in.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  I feel like I was always like, I gotta keep the living room clean just because that's the common area, but it would be like, the kitchen would be the place where I'm like, I'm trying, but I also, I like, I cook and I bake all the time. So I'm just, at a certain point, I'm like, you gotta accept it. You just gotta accept that that's gonna be that way.

• 3:18Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, if you're, we're talking communal goodies?

• 3:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:20Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, dude, that, they see, I would, I cooked, I would cook and use every fucking dish.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 3:26Stavros Halkias?

  I would use every, and there would be like, one and a half servings for me.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 3:30Stavros Halkias?

  And then I would be like, and then no one would get anything out of it. And it would just, so your two options were, I'm trying to be healthy, let me fucking, you know, make vegetables and use literally every pan we ever had and then while, be pissed off because it wasn't so good and not really clean the fucking thing. Or I'm ordering so much takeout that it's like. The trash is just filled with it. There's a new bag of

• 3:53Speaker 03

  Do you feel like that is a measurement of like how you're doing where it's like I'm cooking a lot versus like I'm ordering takeout. I'm not, I'm in a bad spot. Cause I feel like for me it is.

• 4:02Stavros Halkias?

  Absolutely. Well, there's no good spot.

• 4:04Speaker 03

  Okay. We're, we're at a six is the best.

• 4:09Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, literally for whenever, whenever I had like, I don't think, cause me and Elders used to live together for a while. I don't know that I've ever been. I was gonna say, I don't know that I've ever been mentally stable when I had roommates, but I don't know that I've just ever been mentally stable.

• 4:22Speaker 03

  Sure. I mean, part and parcel for a comedian. It's like, we're doing the best when it's just like, we're on stage a lot, but that's just because we're running from something.

• 4:29Stavros Halkias?

  A hundred percent. Love running from everything. Love being away from my thoughts.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 4:34Stavros Halkias?

  It stresses me out to be busy, but like, when I see the calendar filling up, like the last couple of weeks we've, I've been trying to like plan and take it easy. I'm useless. In the next couple of weeks, we fill up the calendar, I'll, I'll be pissed. I'll be like, oh, I'm so busy, but.

• 4:47Speaker 03

  And you have to talk about it like, just like, God, I'm just, I need a break, man. The second you get a break, it's like, what the fuck do I do? What do I do? I need a routine. God damn. When I was, the last time I was living with someone, uh, I had a roommate through the pandemic and it was like, I was baking every day, just as a thing that I needed a task. I needed a thing to do.

• 5:03Stavros Halkias?

  You were a baking guy during that. We all went different ways. You were baking.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  I was, I was a baking guy a little bit before and then a lot during the pandemic and still a lot, just as, I feel like it's like, it gives, I keep saying it's like microdosing control where I'm just like, I have this thing that I have a task with.

• 5:15Stavros Halkias?

  It's very precise too.

• 5:16Speaker 03

  Yes. And it feels great. Um, and, but I remember, uh, there was one day I came home and my roommate at the time was just like, hey, I reorganized the kitchen. You're welcome. And I was like,

• 5:26Stavros Halkias?

  Oh no.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  You need to move out.

• 5:29Stavros Halkias?

  No.

• 5:29Speaker 03

  And I texted him like the next morning, just like, I remember, you remember how when we moved here, you told me that you were gonna look for your own place?

• 5:37Speaker 03

  And he was like, yeah, okay. And it was like, that was the breaking point for me. I was like, I actually need to be crazy in this one like square foot of the house.

• 5:43Stavros Halkias?

  So funny.

• 5:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:45Stavros Halkias?

  He was like, oh yeah, it's all good. I got, don't worry about the measuring cups. There's somewhere completely different.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  He straight up was like, uh, I was like, oh, where are like the spoon, like the, the big spoons? He's like, oh, I put them away. I didn't think he used them. I was like.

• 5:58Stavros Halkias?

  What about that banana bread you've been munching on every other day?

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's the thing also. I baked it all the time for both of us and was like, oh, yeah, take this. And so the idea that he was just like, he's not using this. I'm like-

• 6:07Stavros Halkias?

  This would kill me.

• 6:08Speaker 03

  I felt like-

• 6:08Stavros Halkias?

  Did he ever cook?

• 6:10Speaker 03

  Occasionally, but not really.

• 6:11Stavros Halkias?

  Wow.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  It also, it felt, I was like, that's the closest I'm gonna get to feeling like how, like a mother feels where it's just like, "You don't appreciate anything I do, you little shit."

• 6:20Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, that would fucking drive me insane. I guess for me, the equivalent would be like, uh, hey, I put, I, I organized all the weed and video game controllers. I guess I'm trying to think like what my, or if you like put my, I put my pints in a different place in the freezer, that would piss me off. I really was useless. I mean, I don't think I ever, on Christmas, I would buy a Christmas tree.

• 6:43Speaker 03

  Like for your-

• 6:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, communally, that was-

• 6:46Speaker 03

  I love that. I feel like, I stopped, uh, my parents, I'm always just like, hey, you come to California and visit me. Cause I'm like, I wanna decorate. I go home, they're like, hey, if you wanna decorate, I'm like, I'm not decorating your house.

• 6:57Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  So I'm like, you come to mine and I'll decorate my place. But it was like, when I had a roommate, I was also just like, "I'm decorating cause I want to. I need to get in the festive season." He's just like, "Cool."

• 7:05Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'll accept it.

• 7:07Stavros Halkias?

  What were, how, like, what were your roommate setups? Were they like friends? Were they randoms? Was it like?

• 7:12Speaker 03

  Ever since I've been in LA, it's been friends. It's been like, uh, really good friends and then occasionally, it's like my friend will be like, two times it happened that it was like a friend would move to New York and then another like comedian would move in. And I feel like there was a time where it would be like, I think I'm like the good luck Chuck for comedians who then moved to New York and I hear about them like, "Oh, they're doing really well. My god, that's great for them."

• 7:34Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. They eat your fucking scones and now all of a sudden they got a development deal.

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 7:39Stavros Halkias?

  What are your, what are your go-to baking, what do we talk about? What's your favorite thing to bake? What are some things you're excited about? Some new ones you wanna throw in there? But what's like old reliable? If you really had to wow someone with your, with a baked good?

• 7:52Speaker 03

  I feel like old reliable for me is like pies in general.

• 7:55Stavros Halkias?

  Ooh, I love that.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  Like my friend, my friend's mom, uh, one, like one Thanksgiving, uh, when I'd first met this friend, he introduced me to his mom's mango pie. Which now a recipe that's like in the New York Times, but it's like- Got it down to like, it's in my brain. I can make it anytime. It's fucking good. It's like a custardy pie with like a graham cracker crust. Sometimes you make a ginger snap crust. It gives it a little kick. Really good shit.

• 8:18Stavros Halkias?

  I might need a second. My dick is getting hard. I've never even considered that. You're fucking blowing my mind.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  And then you think it's like. It's like a gelatin. It's really good.

• 8:31Stavros Halkias?

  That's awesome. Where's that? Where are they from? Where's that like from?

• 8:33Speaker 03

  Uh, India. It's really good.

• 8:37Stavros Halkias?

  Alright, so then you, so mango, I mean. If I came to a house and I saw mango pie, something I haven't even heard of and it's executed beautifully. That would be fu- and it's like, it's extra impressive because it's like, it's not, you're not Indian. Like when you've got, when you've got a trick up your sleeve from a totally different culture. You're like, I'm a learned, world-traveled man. I, I, I completely nailed their like, like a friend's cuisine. And you've never heard of it. It's like you're scoring, like, you're scoring so many.

• 9:07Speaker 03

  Wow, this guy's so cultured. I'm just like, yes, I learned this in Eagle Rock. I learned it twenty minutes down the road.

• 9:15Stavros Halkias?

  Ooh, I love that. The mango pie.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  I love pies in general. I feel like when I get really excited, when it's like a, like a fruit pie that I can actually do like the lattice or shapes on top of.

• 9:27Speaker 03

  That's really what it is. I love when it's like a friend's birthday. I'm like, I'm writing happy birthday on it. In the pastry.

• 9:33Stavros Halkias?

  That's big. Probably, I mean, look, I don't want to tell you what to do. I don't even know what your situation is, but you kinda got your proposal ready to go. Will you marry me in fucking pie crust?

• 9:44Speaker 03

  The thing is.

• 9:45Stavros Halkias?

  You gotta marry maybe a plus-size gal. I don't know what your tastes are.

• 9:48Speaker 03

  You know what? It's, it's, it's like the, that Louis Prima song, The Big or The Figure. It's like, ah, I got a woman that's bigger. It's like, I'm feeding her. She loves it.

• 9:55Stavros Halkias?

  Honestly dude, I would love to see you with a, a big, I think that's an awesome couple.

• 10:02Speaker 03

  Everyone's just like, he can't handle all that. I'm like, I'm smiling back at him like, I can't. It's true.

• 10:07Stavros Halkias?

  That is a classic relationship.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:09Stavros Halkias?

  Whenever you see like some people that are like mismatched physically, you're like, you're always like, what the fuck's going on there? And it's always something awesome.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're like, they're in love.

• 10:19Stavros Halkias?

  It's always something so awesome.

• 10:20Speaker 03

  Like Danny DeVito and Rayo Perman, you're like, they're in love.

• 10:22Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. And they can, they can save money on mattresses.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 10:26Stavros Halkias?

  They're in a twin XL, they got plenty of room.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. You know, I, the, the thing about like making like pies for women or something is like, you know that quote that's like, if he writes you a sonnet, he loves you. If he writes you 300 sonnets, he loves sonnets?

• 10:38Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:39Speaker 03

  It's like at that, at this point, it's like such a thing that I do for myself that people are like, well, he does this.

• 10:44Stavros Halkias?

  That's a good point.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:46Stavros Halkias?

  She would be like, oh, how many, how many pies have you baked for other women?

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 10:51Speaker 03

  And the answer is a lot. Both platonically and romantically. A lot of times it'd just be like, do you want a pie? I'm bored.

• 10:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, dude, that's incredible stuff. I respect that. I, I dabbled in making my own pies for Thanksgiving years ago. And it was a nice experience, but I've never gone back. And you know, I'm more of a roast, I'm more of a meat guy.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  Totally.

• 11:15Stavros Halkias?

  I'm re, I'm going in there, but I would really love to add dessert to my repertoire. Or at least get one really, get like three awesome things.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:23Stavros Halkias?

  Fuck dude, you, you might have inspired me.

• 11:25Speaker 03

  I feel like for Thanksgiving especially, there's a few things that you can do where it's like, this is easy and shareable and you can show up with a thing and people be like, this is festive, but it doesn't feel like everyone's gonna do it.

• 11:34Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  Like a bar with some cranberry in it or some sort of like.

• 11:38Stavros Halkias?

  A little twist on it.

• 11:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, like something pumpkin, something pecan, something apple-y. Just, you got so many fall flavors, you can just be like, I made this little thing and it looks so impressive.

• 11:47Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Were you like a lick the spoon when mom was baking kid?

• 11:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 11:53Stavros Halkias?

  This is where it's all started.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Exactly, yeah. And I'm just trying to get back to that, just like, I'm like, this will fix me if I can just get back to my, to the, those primal days of being six.

• 12:03Stavros Halkias?

  Oh dude, licking the spoon, I have a memory. One of my literally best fucking Christmas memories is like, my mom would make, uh, my mom would make like, um, She makes these like honey olive oil cookies that are incredible. Uh, and she'll ma- but but like they're not that great. They're not really lick the spoon fodder.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 12:24Stavros Halkias?

  Or whatever. And one year she made, she decided to make like a more custardy based. Like dessert, we call it galactoburrico.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Mm.

• 12:33Stavros Halkias?

  And she'll, she'll, she'll throw it in there too. And I fucked that thing. I fucked all the like extra cust- I just had a bowl of extra custard.

• 12:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:41Stavros Halkias?

  As like. You know, that was my dinner and then like I came back. Maybe three hours later and we had a basement set up. Where it was like in our kitchen, there was like a shitty TV where we used to play like video games and we would like, you know. And and you just kind of throw on TV and like snack. Truly. Again, never been happier. And we had a specific crab dip. From, from Price Club, uh, now, now Costco. Uh, and it was, and I've, and was with these pita chips. And I just have a, my only, my Christmas memory is licking, not eating the pastry.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:14Stavros Halkias?

  Licking the fucking leftover custard out of a bowl. And then when my family was gone. Coming back and eating like crab, crab dip. I ate the whole fucking, like I got yelled at.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  You went crazy on sauces.

• 13:26Stavros Halkias?

  I went crazy on just, on just creams.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly.

• 13:30Stavros Halkias?

  I don't even, and that's, that'll show you. The, the system of a fat child. Didn't affect me at all. I took that like, like my, my stomach's chin was so strong back then. I probably shit solid somehow, even though that's what I put in my body. Today, I'm done for weeks.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah. It, it'll take you down, but it is, there's something primal about the idea. It's like. Cause it's all the same type of food, whether it's solid or not, but when it's like just a cream, it's almost you going like. I can sit back, I can slurp this. I don't have to work the jaw. It's just, it's just going, just give me the strip straight. Like I don't, yeah.

• 14:04Stavros Halkias?

  I don't have to work the jaw.

• 14:06Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 14:07Stavros Halkias?

  The jaw.

• 14:07Speaker 03

  To this day.

• 14:08Stavros Halkias?

  My jaw a limiting factor on calorie consumption.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  Oh, those fucking muscles. That's a three muscles.

• 14:15Speaker 03

  I feel like nowadays when I bake, I rarely eat the final thing. It'll be like, this is just for someone else. But if I eat, if I tasted it all, it's like in the process of making, I'll have the batter. I'm like, that's good. That's it. That's all I need. Four, it's solid.

• 14:26Stavros Halkias?

  You just know it's good.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:27Stavros Halkias?

  You're on the next level, dude.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:29Stavros Halkias?

  I respect that. What, what, did you have, were you like a, do you have a big family? Was it like tough to get in the mix with the desserts?

• 14:36Speaker 03

  It wa- I, we had like a big extended family, which is shocking to me because my family is from Nigeria.

• 14:42Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 14:42Speaker 03

  And we moved to Plano, Texas. We lived in Irving when I was a kid and then we moved to Plano, Texas where I lived most of my life. And still like, they'll have like alumni reunions and I'm like, how are there that many people from your college around here? And it's like, I think there was just a big exodus of Nigerian people to Texas to the point that now they're just like, yeah, all of your family and your relatives live within striking distance. They can come over and I'm like, that house is fucking packed. I gotta just sit in my house for Thanksgiving or whatnot.

• 15:07Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting. So it was like, yeah, cause I mean, we had that too at our school. There was like a ton of Nigerians who just, it felt like they were all, it was like a, like families. And like, I'm like, my stereotype for Nigerians is that they love college. Every Niger- like truly. Like dude, every Nigerian, like every college in Maryland was like, like the foreign students were, there were so many Nigerians. Where I was like, dude, this is fu- these motherfuckers love going to college.

• 15:35Speaker 03

  You're just, you just, this feels like a, like a selection bias. And it was like, a lot of Nigerian people here. Nigerian, but it's also like, well, white people are here too.

• 15:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, there were no Greek, I guess I'm thinking of like eth- pure ethnic groups probably like, there would be like a handful of Greek, like we didn't see any Albanians over there, like, and like the, the Nigerian like student groups were always fucking lit as hell. They were always, and like on, uh, like kids I went to, like kids I went to high school with, who then went to like my college, they like knew a shit ton of people from, and they weren't from Baltimore. And I was like, whoa, this is fucking, like, and so I get why like a whole group just fucking comes and then that, they just have a community there.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. That's the thing also is like, if you're moving to a new country, you're like, we have to go where other people like us are.

• 16:20Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  Which is also how people like gets, like, sort of stick to religion in a way where it's like, we're going to. Church for no reason other than we need to be in a similar place than we were. But I feel like with black and African communities, it is very much like your parents from the eight, like the youngest age, just like, whatever, do whatever, but you have to go to college. You gotta do this to prove to other people to prove to us, whatever. And then past that, it's like, you'll figure it out. So I I get.

• 16:45Stavros Halkias?

  The immigrant, yeah, it's like the specific immigrant groups where it's like, some, some immigrants come over and they go like right into some industries. And then some of them just like, yeah, we're get, we're fucking, we give us a couple of generations, we're gonna, you know, doctorates, all this other shit where it's like, every Greek motherfucker I knew was like, let's, we're gonna be contractors, we're gonna fucking work diners, like, we're gonna, and I would get, I would get made fun of growing up because I wanted to go to college. Because they were like, we're working at our dad's carryout. We already make fucking three grand a week.

• 17:18Speaker 03

  Four years of their money, okay, do what, we'll see you here, back here after that.

• 17:22Stavros Halkias?

  They, and they were, they were like young as fuck with like next tells and like, you know, they were just like, because they were fourteen and they were essentially like the, the weekend manager of a fucking restaurant.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  I miss that. I miss the like, the like precocious young business boys. Standing outside, I, I wanna be walking around the city, standing around, seeing them stand around bodegas, you're gonna, hey, hey, no, come here, come here real second, I'm like, who are you talking, it's like you are sixteen.

• 17:43Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, dude, for real. They would like, uh, I would go in, you know, they give you free pizza and they would like, um, they would like, uh, admonish a worker who was like a grown man. And they'd be like, the fuck, I told you, and I'm like, this feels wrong.

• 17:59Speaker 03

  That guy should be like, I'll beat your ass, just don't talk to me like that.

• 18:02Stavros Halkias?

  It was like a little, it was like watching King Joff, we had so many King Joffre's, but their, their kingdom was like shitty crab cakes. And shit like that. And I just remember being like, this is wrong, the world, this is like, we have little tyrants. Like pizza nepo babies essentially.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  If I ever saw a child be like, come here to a, to a grown man, I would just be like, somebody hit him. I would be like, I think child abuse is okay now, somebody hit this boy.

• 18:29Stavros Halkias?

  Well, they were so fucking spoiled. I mean, all those kids were like fucking spoiled. Everyone, everyone thinks that their kid is like. It was dude, it was just so funny where in Greek town, it was like everyone was trying to be, it was all like, almost like warring factions of different people, all just like wanting to have prestige within the community. There was no, no one was that, there was like one rich guy who like made a lot of money because the roof of his roof, the roof of his like machine shop collapsed, so he sued the place. And then he just invested it back in and he became like a millionaire, but it was like, if that roof wasn't faulty, you're not rich either.

• 19:06Speaker 03

  Did he have, did he have the energy of like, everyone bowed down to me for, like, he's like, I worked hard for this and it's like.

• 19:10Stavros Halkias?

  Your roof fell in. Well, he kinda became like, yeah, he would be, and you know, I remember going to like lunches and this motherfuckers like having like local politicians come up and it's just like that weird, you're like, oh, this is the lowest level of like, uh, like, um, can, not conspiracy, but like, uh, corruption, whatever, like the absolute lowest level of corruptions, but it was, it was nice to dabble in it, I guess.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Totally.

• 19:33Stavros Halkias?

  Um.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Do you want kids? This is, this feels like a, like a big jump, but I'm asking because I'm like, I'm thinking, would you raise a kid in this city? Would you go back to Baltimore?

• 19:42Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, well, the community shit is really important. I don't know how you feel about it. Like, I don't know what it was like, cause it sounds like you grew up in a big Nigerian community. And like, I both hated and liked growing up around, like, well, those specific Greek people was like, they kinda, everyone moved from different parts of Greece. And then they all had this like provincial villager attitude where Greek town, a shitty neighborhood in Baltimore became like a village again. And they didn't want to explore the rest of the world and it was like, or if the, the, the biggest idea of their world was like the sub, the nice suburbs of Baltimore, but the idea that they would do anything kinda different, didn't really exist. They were, and I, I just didn't like that.

• 20:24Stavros Halkias?

  But I do, and I'm not religious anymore, but even I'm like, there's something to going to a, most communities are anchored around a church.

• 20:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:32Stavros Halkias?

  And there's something about the non-religious elements of that shit that's like, that if I could figure it out culturally, I want my kid, like, I almost feel like.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  Boys and girls club or something.

• 20:42Stavros Halkias?

  Something like that. Like, and even part of me is also like, I. Came out this way because I went to church, realized it was fucking dumb.

• 20:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:49Stavros Halkias?

  And it's like, like, when you start with a kid who's like, I don't want to tell my kid, God's not real, you know what I mean? Like, I want to be like, yeah, go to church. We all had to go to church.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  You gotta let them like.

• 20:58Stavros Halkias?

  Figure it out.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:59Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean?

• 21:00Speaker 03

  Stand up to you at some point and be like, I don't want to go to church. And you're like, yeah, great. You're here.

• 21:03Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  Now I can tell you, you didn't have to do that. Anyway.

• 21:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:07Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know. So, and who knows? I might just be, I might be on uncle mode. I'm kind of built to be.

• 21:13Speaker 03

  It's kind of ideal.

• 21:14Stavros Halkias?

  It's the best.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:15Stavros Halkias?

  But I don't know, so many people around me are having kids and thinking about having kids that I just feel like, oh, my whole life I've been dragged into adulthood. I've always been the last one.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:25Stavros Halkias?

  So I could, I don't know. What about you? Would you?

• 21:27Speaker 03

  I have always imagined myself having like, one kid and being like, I'd be a really good dad to like, a daughter.

• 21:34Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  And I wouldn't know what the fuck to do with a son. I'd just be like, what do you, what do you guys like? What do you want to fucking, I don't know. Uh, but I also feel like, in terms of like, where to raise them, there are some times that I'm like, it'd be great to raise a kid in New York. So it just feels like, no matter what I do, like, community is around you. You have to take the train. You have to be around people. It's not like, I'm isolating you from the world.

• 21:56Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  I am like, it, it feels like it'd be good to raise them in LA, but it would just be boring and like, a lot of work in a way that just feels, it's like, the, the idea of like, building community for this kid in New York is like, you have to actively be like, I gotta take you to this thing. I gotta make you do this thing. Like the church thing where it's like, I have to.

• 22:11Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  Work it hard.

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• 23:59Stavros Halkias?

  That's interesting, because I always thought of like, I always thought it was fucked up when a kid grew up in Manhattan.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Really?

• 24:04Stavros Halkias?

  Like, it just feels like it's not a place they should be around. Like, I just feel like on the island, you shouldn't allow kids after like 6:00 PM.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:11Stavros Halkias?

  You should get like waivers to go see Lion King or whatever the fuck.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:14Stavros Halkias?

  And then, and it's only good for Midtown, and you have to go back, like...

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Like an express train, it's like back to your house.

• 24:20Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Child-only express trains, and we gotta promote, we gotta patrol those big time.

• 24:24Speaker 03

  Yes, we have to.

• 24:26Stavros Halkias?

  The NYPD, instead of looking at your fucking phone and doing Candy Crush, maybe fucking make sure those stay child-only.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  They're IDing children on the board, and it's like, that was a trick. If you have an ID, get the fuck off here.

• 24:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, you're right, fuck. All right, we'll figure it out.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  We'll figure it out.

• 24:39Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe a trolley, that's kind of whimsical.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  As with all of my ideas, the problem comes down to, ah, I forgot about pedophiles.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  Fuck, that doesn't work because of pedophiles.

• 24:49Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, those dag nab pedophiles.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  I had a joke I used to do on stage where I was like, they should do a program at Disneyland where like, because people get jaded, and it's like you can sponsor like, a child, like a poor child's trip to Disneyland where you're like, they're chaperone, you see it through their eyes, and you're just like, oh, maybe this is magical. And then I'm like, ah, forgot, pedophiles, though.

• 25:09Stavros Halkias?

  You can't.

• 25:10Speaker 03

  You can't do it.

• 25:11Stavros Halkias?

  You can't be doing that.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  You can't do shit anymore.

• 25:13Stavros Halkias?

  You can't. You can't open up the whimsy. I think Bill Burr had a good joke about that where he's like, pedophiles ruin just like going up to like a little chubby kid on the, on like the kinder, on like the playground and mussing up his hair. You can't do that anymore.

• 25:26Speaker 03

  You cannot do that, no.

• 25:27Stavros Halkias?

  They would be like, ah, get out of here, you little slugger and like, you know, give him a little fucking tap on the back and it's like a big pat on the back, but it's like, no.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  Don't do that.

• 25:35Stavros Halkias?

  You cannot do that. You have to really be friends with the babies.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  Probably should have never been doing it, but also.

• 25:41Stavros Halkias?

  There's something to that, you know, I listen, as a fat kid that used to get must around quite a bit. I think it did help my development somehow.

• 25:48Speaker 03

  You think it made you more confident or just like, all right, I guess this is a thing we're gonna do.

• 25:51Stavros Halkias?

  I think so. It made me, it, it sort of, I was the, you know, you're this, you know, you're gonna get your cheeks pinched. You know, you're gonna, you know, people are gonna come up and kind of fuck with you a little bit.

• 26:01Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 26:02Stavros Halkias?

  And I don't know, was it positive? Was it negative? It made me more resilient. It made me know.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  Did you ma- did it make you more bitter where you're like, this is gonna fucking happen every time?

• 26:11Stavros Halkias?

  After a certain point, yeah. But you know what? It's good. It teaches you to stand up for yourself.

• 26:15Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 26:15Stavros Halkias?

  Cause at a certain point I was like, all right, enough cheek pinching.

• 26:18Speaker 03

  You started sounding like those kids in the Peace Place is just like, hey, I don't gotta take this from you. It's like, okay, well, I'm still thirty five, so calm down.

• 26:28Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, yeah, no, it was, you know, I don't know. So we'll, we'll, we'll see about, Uncle Mode might be fine, but it's interesting. You say you, you wouldn't know what to do with a, a little, you prefer a daughter.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  I think I'd, I think I'm destined to be a girl dad. Like I think even in the way that I live my life, sometimes I meet a guy and I'm just sort of like, how do we?

• 26:48Stavros Halkias?

  What was the crew like growing up? Was it, were you with a bunch of, like, was, do you have, do you have a bunch of bros? Was it like, you hang out with girls?

• 26:55Speaker 03

  It was like, I had like a couple of good male friends and then as I got older, it was like, it is mostly women now. And it's like, I think my best friends, almost every age past like, seven was a woman.

• 27:06Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting. Cool. Huh. That's so, cause like.

• 27:11Stavros Halkias?

  I I that's I've I've never I've always just had this like bro. It always feels like being a dumbass bro is like the um sort of like the default setting.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 27:22Stavros Halkias?

  And that like I I've been I've definitely had I always had like friends, you know, I always had like very close female friends, but. It does feel like and part of it is because I've known my best friends for like me and I was been friends for like five. Um, and we just I think I feel like I locked into a specific dynamic.

• 27:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:41Stavros Halkias?

  When I was we were literally five and that like it was me, elders, another one of our friends and it was just like. I don't know. I feel like from a young age, that vibe of just like being fucking dumb as shit with your bros.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:54Stavros Halkias?

  Was just the like the absolute. The most like comforting not it just wasn't, you know.

• 28:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:02Stavros Halkias?

  I don't know what it is where it was like and when we were little kids. Should I think the first time, I mean, our friend.

• 28:08Speaker 03

  Do you feel like there's a thing of like you don't have to perform when you're around your bros and you kind of feel like you might have to when you're around girls?

• 28:15Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting. Yeah, maybe.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  I feel like I always felt that a little bit, but sometimes it felt more like it's like, well, now I have to perform around the guys when it's like, well. I guess I gotta do the guys or I gotta be like the dumb guy. I don't know.

• 28:26Stavros Halkias?

  No, that's interesting because I've definitely met I have met guys who. I have gotten attention who either were comfortable around women or. The the one that really sticks out to me is guys who were like always good with women and always had like like female attention and. Weren't nervous around women.

• 28:43Speaker 03

  Right.

• 28:43Stavros Halkias?

  But were didn't know how to make friends.

• 28:47Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 28:47Stavros Halkias?

  And were like more nervous around a group of bros.

• 28:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:50Stavros Halkias?

  And they weren't even like it wasn't like a cultural thing, right? It wasn't like this guy's like. Sensitive or into fucking, you know, whatever. It was like he was like a sports. He was like a run of the mill bro.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:00Stavros Halkias?

  But he just he couldn't get the respect of men. In a way that he could get the attention of women and I think that made him nervous whereas like. I don't know, I was always the flip side where it was like I was the best at making friends.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:12Stavros Halkias?

  Like I would, I I feel like being a good hang is my best skill.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's how I am now.

• 29:17Stavros Halkias?

  Totally.

• 29:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:18Stavros Halkias?

  But I was, when I was younger, I was so nervous to talk to girls. And I was so, and I wonder if it kicked in before puberty, but I mean by puberty, forget about it. It was like, I think part of the problem is that some of, yeah, it's like. There's a general nervousness for most of my life around and just not understanding. Once it, once it became a thing where you're like, oh, I have to get girls to like me.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:41Stavros Halkias?

  It kicked in like my social anxiety and I didn't have that. I had no social anxiety before because I was like, I'm fucking great at being social.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:49Stavros Halkias?

  But once it was like, get a girl to like you, it made me so nervous that it took me. I don't know, like now I have a ton of female friends.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  Right.

• 29:58Stavros Halkias?

  But I will say it's still, it still feels like the absolute Cro-Magnon. Like just fucking dumbass caveman version of my brain.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:08Stavros Halkias?

  It does feel like there is something about just being totally free.

• 30:15Stavros Halkias?

  That that it's like the, you gotta be with the bros on some level.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  I get that.

• 30:18Stavros Halkias?

  Where it's like, I don't know that that's tru- like. But it's just like a night where we're just getting high as fuck and you know, just completely destroying each other. Saying the most mean things to your best friends.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:30Stavros Halkias?

  I would feel bad on some weird like. I guess sh- is it chivalry? To like have, to like have a girl around in those kinds of atmospheres.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Right, you're like, we should be protecting her from this almost.

• 30:41Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, although I, there are definitely women who pass that.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:45Stavros Halkias?

  Test, but they're like lifelong friends. Who I've been through, you know, we've been through so much with.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  I think for me, and this is just theorizing, I think there was a thing where like as a kid, I always felt like. If I hung with dudes, I would become like the butt of the joke or the, or be like, oh, I can't really like. Hang in the same way that, like I don't pass the test in the same way that you guys do with each other. I don't have the same interests. And when I hung out with women, it was just like, oh, I don't have to pass that test. It became like a thing where it's, it becomes like, it's so easy to be friends with women.

• 31:14Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:14Speaker 03

  And then it became a thing where it was like, well, now someone who also dates women, it's hard. It's like, I can very easily make a friendship with a woman and then it's like, well, now try and date women, like, I don't know how to flip that switch.

• 31:24Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting.

• 31:25Speaker 03

  And then when I hang with men, I'm just sort of like, there's almost this thing of like, I don't care if you like me.

• 31:30Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 31:30Speaker 03

  I mean, it's like, I'll hang, but also ultimately, I'm just sort of like.

• 31:33Stavros Halkias?

  You're free now.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 31:34Stavros Halkias?

  We're both free in that way, where it's like, you lose that, like, those childlike childhood anxieties.

• 31:39Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 31:40Stavros Halkias?

  Um, but yeah, it was just, uh, that's interesting though, because you were like comfortable. What was your first approach? Were you like, be friends with a girl first, then tell her you have feelings? Like, did you ever?

• 31:52Speaker 03

  I used to do that so much, and ultimately, I was like, this is such a bad way to like,

• 31:57Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 03

  It's never once worked. And it's, it's fucking, I'm Charlie Brown kicking the football, being like, this time, I'm gonna hit the football. After a year of being friends, I think I'm gonna spring it on her.

• 32:09Stavros Halkias?

  Never once worked, that's awesome.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I, now, it's just sort of like, I will just, it's like, if there's someone that it's like, I'm interested in them, and I become friends with them, and then very quickly, I'm just like, oh, we're too friendly. And almost my brain shuts it down, just being like, you don't like them enough, you're friends now.

• 32:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:24Speaker 03

  And it's like, comforting and nice, but I, yeah, I just feel like, I never, the, the being friends thing, is, I feel like it's something every guy has to try when they're young,

• 32:36Stavros Halkias?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  And then quickly learn that it's like, this won't work, and also, they'll be frustrated.

• 32:41Stavros Halkias?

  Of course.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:42Stavros Halkias?

  Well, because, because when you're young, you're like, well, when do I take off enough toke? Like, when do I do it? You just feel like, well, it's like, like, girls are like video games, where I put in enough time, I'm nice to them. I'm nice to them 15 times, they give me pussy. You know, and you're like, no, you have to actually talk about, uh, how you feel, and like, make it, and they think you just want to be friends, it's not like some secret game that you get to, you get to just like unlock, you just gotta be a fucking human being, but.

• 33:09Speaker 03

  But it is also tricky, because there are some times where it does feel like you reach this mutual feeling of like, well, we have become friends now, and because of that, someone feels closer, and is like, open to a relationship. But it is like, it's that thing of like, every woman is different, and you can't really.

• 33:24Stavros Halkias?

  Of course.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  But it can't be from the get go, just being like, alright, gonna just hang around for a bit.

• 33:29Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, laying the cut.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:30Stavros Halkias?

  Put it, he put in my time.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:32Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah, although I have, I've gone back to being like, maybe that's how I'll find a wife, you know? On some real romantic comedy shit.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:40Stavros Halkias?

  Friendship, oh.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  You just hang with the bros and it's like, hey, you've been hanging out with Rachel, like Rachel? Nah, nah, we're just friends. I've never even.

• 33:48Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, she's just at the office.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:50Stavros Halkias?

  She's actually a fucking idiot if you ask me.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  Just cause she smells good and always wearing that perfume and does this thing with her eyes whenever she's laughing. It's like, alright, okay.

• 33:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, dude, I'm ba- maybe I'll open myself up to a rom com.

• 34:02Speaker 03

  Do it.

• 34:03Stavros Halkias?

  You know, that's the way to go. That little rom com lifestyle.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  Like you can just opt into it?

• 34:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, why not?

• 34:11Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah.

• 34:11Stavros Halkias?

  Be whimsical, make a friendship. Hmm, I gotta think this through. Cause usually I'm the, if it were, if, if, if it was a real rom com, I would have, I would be the best friend. You gotta have a fat guy as the best friend.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah.

• 34:23Stavros Halkias?

  Kind of a, although I guess that's what Hitch flipped. It made the fat guy the star.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  But he also was the best friend. He's in the position. It's like, yeah.

• 34:32Stavros Halkias?

  Strodenger's fat best friend. He's both the star and the fat best friend.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, the shallow how.

• 34:37Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, the shallow, shallow. Now there's some cinema right there. It's insane that that was like a, that, the, the, the Jack Black. Also, Jack Black was fat. Why didn't they pick a sexy guy?

• 34:50Speaker 03

  They.

• 34:50Stavros Halkias?

  No disrespect to Jack Black, he's a hot fat guy, of course, and we, we don't badmouth, you know, the plus size community here, but it's like, he's the guy that was shallow?

• 34:59Speaker 03

  It.

• 34:59Stavros Halkias?

  He's the guy that wouldn't fuck a fat lady? Why? I don't believe that for a second.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  It's, it's so crazy also how like the message of the movie is sort of ruined by the movie itself of being like, and to show you that she's good on the inside, we'll have a sexy lady.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Then you, you don't, you really don't, you're not doing it. And then, do you remember, like, how mu- how well do you remember this movie?

• 35:20Stavros Halkias?

  I don't remember it very well.

• 35:22Speaker 03

  There's a scene where like, he has his power and goes to like this burn ward full of children who have been like, horrifically burned and he sees them all and then he's like, oh, they look great. Like, they, these are such nice kids, why are they here? And then he realizes he's in the. Burn Wardens like, oh, they're all actually ugly. I see. And that's how he sort of, that's like the third act twist of like, I learned my lesson because the children with horrific burn scars. Are actually, look, actually, they're like, like, look fine to me.

• 35:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, they've opened my eyes to realize the girl I've been seeing is a pig.

• 35:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:52Stavros Halkias?

  Thanks to these disfigured children.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  And they also have like, Jason Alexander has like a, a tail, like a prehensile like pigtail. And now when I, I think, God, even just saying this, I'm like, at some point in this movie, someone should just be like, does that work?

• 36:08Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. I mean, there was so, maybe it was, there was so many of those moments that it just became like dazzle camouflage. There was too much.

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're just like, it's like, look, we gotta get this in or people won't watch it at all. And so we'll try and like backdoor a message in a little bit. And you know, everyone came out of the movie just being like, bro, I'd fuck one of the. It's like, all right, well, we tried.

• 36:28Stavros Halkias?

  Also, her, why would you make that choice? Why would, did they, did they put her in a fat suit or was it CGI?

• 36:35Speaker 03

  Put who, her?

• 36:36Stavros Halkias?

  Guinness.

• 36:36Speaker 04

  I think it had to be a fat suit that they did.

• 36:38Stavros Halkias?

  Let's look it up. Let's look up.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Oh, I just assumed it was like they cast another woman as the bigger.

• 36:43Stavros Halkias?

  I don't believe so.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  Which also now I'm like, that's awful.

• 36:46Stavros Halkias?

  That would be tough.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  You're gonna play the fat version of it. It's like, uh, okay.

• 36:51Stavros Halkias?

  She did wear a fat suit, the 2001 movie. Wow.

• 36:57Stavros Halkias?

  Holy fuck. Holy shit, that's fucking crazy.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  The lips are crazy.

• 37:03Stavros Halkias?

  The, the lips, the chin, it's like, why couldn't she basically keep her face but plump it out a little bit? What the fuck? That's nuts, bro.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  Dark.

• 37:12Stavros Halkias?

  That's fucking crazy. Was this before, this is 2001. So it's like, nine 11 really reset a lot of stuff for us culturally. This shit was not happening post nine 11. They're like, no frivolous fucking.

• 37:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, nine 11 happened. Jack Black was like, we gotta respect our women, man. What are we doing to our beautiful queens?

• 37:30Stavros Halkias?

  That's fucking insane.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  I hon- I feel like-

• 37:33Stavros Halkias?

  That's fucking insane, bro.

• 37:35Speaker 03

  The worst thing is, I don't think that, I think we're like, five years away from this kind of thing coming back in a, in a way that we don't really see until we're then twenty years out.

• 37:43Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 37:44Speaker 03

  Where it's like, oh yeah, no, uh, after Covid and the Trump presidency, we went really hard on this kind of thing.

• 37:51Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting. What do you think, like, what, cause everyone seems to be, I don't know how true it is, but people are saying woke is coming back in a big way. Which I would love, I would make the trade off.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, that would be great.

• 38:01Stavros Halkias?

  I think it's very clear that ner- you know, tattletales, society was better when it was ruled by tattletales instead of actual militant. Uh, like, it's not an equivalency. Like, Bill Maher was like, okay, we just need to, the, the left needs to stop with their woke nonsense. And the right needs to stop with their slide towards authoritarianism. It's like, are those the same, Bill Maher? Are those really the fucking, can you just admit you're wrong?

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:28Stavros Halkias?

  And annoying people, people who are a little annoying and a little sensitive, it's better if they rule the country than the fucking guys.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  People you can ignore, by the way. Like, hey, you put your gun down, you shut up.

• 38:39Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up nerd and go about your life first. Like, put the gun down.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:44Stavros Halkias?

  Please take your mask off. You have to identify what part of the law enforcement you are, and then you get butted in the fucking head.

• 38:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. The thing about people complaining about woke is always just like, it's the same thing as that, like, uh, uh, Tyler, the creator tweets, like, how is cyberbullying real?

• 38:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 38:58Speaker 03

  Just close the computer. I'm like, yeah, just don't listen to them.

• 39:00Stavros Halkias?

  For real.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  And it's like, I want you to listen to them, but also if you don't, you can live the life that you want.

• 39:06Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, no issue whatsoever.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  They are not in pow- the, like, trans people telling you to respect their pronouns are not in power. It's not this authoritarian thing.

• 39:14Stavros Halkias?

  We're literally seeing motherfuckers just disappear people off the street.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 39:18Stavros Halkias?

  Um, so I don't know, what do you, like, I guess, I'm trying to think culturally what the, what the shift will be. Cause that's interesting. You're saying like silly shit that we find problematic, or what do you think?

• 39:28Speaker 03

  I think it's gonna be like, in ten years' time, we'll be like, I can't believe we let that happen so many times.

• 39:33Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  But I, yeah, I don't know what that thing's gonna be. It's like-

• 39:37Stavros Halkias?

  Hmm. Yeah, cuz right now, what are they even ma- I mean, I don't even ca- it's it's hard to even say. What I you know what it might be is like overly serious television, like prestige. Like prestige TV a little bit has gotten to like cookie cutterish a little bit. I mean,

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:54Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe you see that with all the like Yellowstone clones or whatever, like building out that. I mean culturally, that seems a little, you know, uh, like. Yeah, who knows? Maybe how serious everything got. Hopefully, there's a, I mean, this comedian's hoping that shit gets funny again.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah.

• 40:11Stavros Halkias?

  They actually make comedies, but who fucking knows? I don't know. That's that's an interesting question.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  They make one a year and then they're like, ah, it didn't work.

• 40:18Stavros Halkias?

  Didn't work out that well.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  We're not gonna do it. We're gonna go back to.

• 40:20Stavros Halkias?

  Naked Gun was fucking good, though.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  Fantastic.

• 40:22Stavros Halkias?

  Naked Gun was really good and.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  My fear with that, though, is that everyone's like, oh, great, then we'll do more like parodies and like just do it the wrong way.

• 40:30Stavros Halkias?

  Or like lega- yeah, parodies or like legacy seek cuz like.

• 40:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 40:34Stavros Halkias?

  The whole point of that was like they took that into consideration and it made sense.

• 40:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:38Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah, you're right. The parody movie, although I gotta tell you, the Wayans getting back in the mix with scary movie.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:45Stavros Halkias?

  That's got me fucking pumped, bro.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Cautiously optimistic.

• 40:48Stavros Halkias?

  I'm so, I cannot wait. The sinner scene, how long do you think that spit is gonna be that comes out of her mouth?

• 40:54Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 40:54Stavros Halkias?

  They're gonna, they're gonna do such a long s- I I'm calling it. She's gonna spit into his mouth with the weirdest, longest loogie you've ever seen. It's gonna spit. I feel like they already did that in a movie. That's why it's in my head. I feel like there was a spit gag. But yeah, when you give the Wayans back, scary movie, bro, I'm so pumped.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, what what what are the thing? It's like they're gonna have kids running around like in weapons. They're gonna have. I is it? It's also like so many big horror like, like.

• 41:22Stavros Halkias?

  Long legs. They'll have long legs in there somehow.

• 41:25Speaker 03

  It's been, it's been so long that I'm like, will they do Get Out? Or it'll be like that happened too long ago, like.

• 41:30Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe, who knows? But I, that, that's gonna be fucking awesome.

• 41:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:36Stavros Halkias?

  Sha- and I can't, I haven't seen him. Uh, I can't wait. We are the biggest fucking Wayans. We are the biggest fucking Marlin guys in the world.

• 41:46Speaker 04

  You know, they're still in foreman, ready to go. I feel like Marlins made like eighteen other like horror spoof movies.

• 41:55Stavros Halkias?

  The ones that he was like, I'm doing them myself. One that was really, there was, it was really Annabelle heavy. Annabelle, I think he fucked Annabelle like twice. I think there's like two, like getting your dick sucked by Annabelle jokes.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  Kind of thing where it's like, you're like, I'm not gonna wait for them to let me do my big one. Cause I can't do an Annabelle thing in that one. It's like, people will forget by Annabelle. I gotta do, yeah.

• 42:17Stavros Halkias?

  There's Annabelle texting him pictures of her tits.

• 42:22Stavros Halkias?

  He also did a, um, uh, uh, fucking, what's this?

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Paranormal like?

• 42:28Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, the one, the sex one, the like with Dakota, um, Johnson. He did Fifty Shades of Black.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:35Stavros Halkias?

  Which was a fucking banger.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  It's wild to me also, like.

• 42:40Speaker 03

  In hindsight, all of these sound like they would be direct to DVD. I'm like, no, these all had theatrical releases.

• 42:46Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, man, that sweet four percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

• 42:51Speaker 03

  Golden.

• 42:51Stavros Halkias?

  These are fucking bangers. The, the way I feel about Marlin.

• 42:54Speaker 03

  Guy named Michael Titties in them?

• 42:59Stavros Halkias?

  Who's Michael Titties?

• 43:00Speaker 03

  He's got no character name. If you cast Michael Titties, you're like, you can just self title. He's playing himself.

• 43:06Stavros Halkias?

  Michael motherfucking titties, bro. Oh.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Director.

• 43:09Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, Insects Tuplets. Remember that? We watched that on my brother's, on my brother's bachelor party. He just did a, a one where he plays all six that no one's heard of.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  I, yeah, I was about to say, this is the first time I'm seeing that in my life.

• 43:22Stavros Halkias?

  We are, I mean, I'm telling you, we're Marlin guys.

• 43:24Speaker 03

  He was just, he was like, I gotta do my clumps.

• 43:26Stavros Halkias?

  He's got, I gotta do my clumps. Yeah. And he plays, uh, there's a fat sister, I believe. There's, uh.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  He's doing Little Man again? There's a baby?

• 43:36Stavros Halkias?

  They're running back Little Man.

• 43:37Speaker 03

  Great.

• 43:38Stavros Halkias?

  They're running back Little Man. He's, he does like, I guess a red bone version of himself.

• 43:43Speaker 03

  What year was this?

• 43:45Speaker 04

  I think it just said two thousand nineteen.

• 43:47Speaker 03

  That's too late.

• 43:48Stavros Halkias?

  No, dude, it's, it's all, that one was direct to Netflix.

• 43:51Speaker 03

  Molly Shannon, Glenn term, okay, cast is great on that one.

• 43:55Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, it was fucking good.

• 43:59Stavros Halkias?

  So Michael Tiddies, it looks like is just is a Marlon guy.

• 44:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:02Stavros Halkias?

  Looks like he shows up at all Marlon's stuff.

• 44:05Speaker 03

  He directed them, it sounds like.

• 44:07Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, fuck yeah, dude. I would love to sit down and have a long talk with him about, I mean, we literally, I remember this because it was my brother's uh, bachelor party and we put on, I think we put on one Marlon Wayans movie as a joke. And everyone was kinda like, oh, this is fun. We'll smoke weed. We'll have it on the background. And then like, we're like, alright, let's roll, let's fire up sex tuplets. And like, my brother's friends who were like not our guys were like, what? You're gonna watch another Marlon Wayans movie? We were like, hell yeah, dude.

• 44:39Speaker 03

  That is a moment where you are like, it's the kind of moment where you're like, oh, I thought this was a safe space to do that. And they're just like, whoa, we actually, we thought it was ironic and this is sincere.

• 44:47Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, well, they, they were, no, no, they didn't think it was ironic. They were, at first, they were on board as like, oh, this will be funny. These guys are, you funny guys, they have good taste. And so it was bad, obviously. It's just like, not good, but we just love, we love watching Marlon. We'll watch him do anything. And so they're like, oh, that wasn't so good. Let's do, watch something else. And we're like, nah, we're wa- we're watching sex tuplets, man.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  There is an entire kind of movie, though, like this, that I think is, is made to be good in a group. And I think people think of it like, that's an ironic watch. And it's like, no, it is the kind of thing where like, if you sit there watching it alone critically, like, you're gonna be like, this sucks. But the joy is like, this sort of audacity, that you're laughing with friends, you're high a little bit, you're just like, that's fucking crazy. That's insane. It's like, they have fun making it and you have fun watching it in a group. And that's like, that, it's the symbiosis of it being like, it's not good, but it is, it's enjoyable in certain scenarios.

• 45:40Stavros Halkias?

  No, that's a great point, that like, we don't give comedies meant to purely entertain credit. It's like, they know this shit isn't the smartest jokes of all time.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:50Stavros Halkias?

  But they also know it's gonna fucking kill.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  Also, is there any comedy in the history of the world that you are like, I'm gonna sit down and watch alone at home and it kills?

• 45:58Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  It's like, not really.

• 46:00Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, for me, it's probably like, yeah, like, I'll watch new episodes of comedies I like, but the only thing I probably will throw, I'll throw on Thirty Rock. I'll throw on um, Eastbound and Down, probably. But even then, it's like, more, I mean, we're talking about the best shows of all time.

• 46:16Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah. And that's even with TV. I'm like, is there a movie where it's like, I'm gonna watch this alone in my house? And it's like,

• 46:24Stavros Halkias?

  That's a good point. Probably the la- I mean, the last time, the last time I did the comedy is probably Night at the Roxbury. Because I loved it so much and I was like, let me see if this holds up. And brother, it did. I'm a, I tried to, I tried to get like a, a, a screening. I tried to do a screening of it. At this film festival in Baltimore, but they couldn't get a, a film print of it. I'm sure it doesn't even, I'm sure they burned every film.

• 46:47Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah.

• 46:48Stavros Halkias?

  Night at the Roxbury, but if someone can get me thirty-five millimeter Night at the Roxbury print. I need it for my private collection. That was, that was for real like a huge movie for me.

• 46:58Speaker 03

  I've still never seen it.

• 46:59Stavros Halkias?

  It's pretty, I mean, it's funny and it's also a funny artifact of like. Whoa, this is when they thought Chris Catan was gonna be the star and Will Ferrell was gonna be the supporting actor?

• 47:09Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:10Stavros Halkias?

  Like, it's kind of, a kind of a hallucinatory experience, cuz you're like. Wait, Will Ferrell just goes away? And we follow Chris Catan? This is fucking insane. And for that, and then it's got like a hilarious. Richard Grieco cameo, uh, Dan Hedaya just also plays their dad. The dad in Clueless, they just get him to be the fucking dad. He's the man.

• 47:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:35Stavros Halkias?

  Um, Molly Shannon's very funny in it. And it's just fuck, it's so stupid. I feel like it's probably like. Seventy-four minutes long or something crazy.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Every SNL movie, they were just like, they're like, wrap this up.

• 47:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, they're like, this is barely a movie.

• 47:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:48Stavros Halkias?

  This should have been twenty minutes if we're being honest with ourselves.

• 47:51Speaker 03

  It's cuz it feels like they started as a sketch and it's like, make it a little longer. And it's like, we don't know what to do. This is all we got. We got seventy minutes for you.

• 47:57Stavros Halkias?

  You do that forty ti- you start with a two-minute sketch, you're like. Plump it up a little. And you just do that forty times. And it's like, alright, I guess it's a fucking movie. Who fucking cares?

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:06Stavros Halkias?

  But yeah, I made my father take me to see that in theaters, literally, cuz I was such a fan of the sketch as a boy.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  I hope they do the thing.

• 48:14Stavros Halkias?

  Did you have any like, uh, like, sort of cornerstone? Comedy movies or like, you just, just movies in general?

• 48:21Speaker 03

  I, the two big ones to me were Ocean's Eleven and Hot Rod.

• 48:26Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, dude, Hot Rod's another one I saw in theaters.

• 48:29Speaker 03

  God, I wish I'd, I was introduced to it in college, just like some friends brought over a DVD and they were like, this movie. He's awesome. And I was like, okay. And I remember just watching it like slowly smiling as if I was discovered, just being like, this shit's pretty good.

• 48:40Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, it's so good.

• 48:41Speaker 03

  Every time I watch this since then, it's like, it makes me laugh the same amount. I show it to people and I'm like, this is, this is fucking, you can't do this. This is insane.

• 48:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Speaker 03

  And it's one of those movies where if you break it down, it's like, he never successfully does a jump. The plot is so bare bones. It's that he wants to beat up his day. It's all, it's like every level of it is so brilliant and funny and insane. Yeah.

• 49:00Stavros Halkias?

  No, I'm so with you. That movie was fuck. I wa- I would watch the director's commentary of that shit.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:05Stavros Halkias?

  That was actually the director's commentary when I learned how old those guys were, because they're the Lonely Lion guys. I used to follow them when they were on, you know, just off the internet. Um, and in my head, I'm a kid, you know, I'm like in high school or whatever. I think when it came out, maybe I was graduating and then I was in college and I'm, I'm like an open mic'er. And I'm like, well, I'm, I guess I'll be famous in three years. You know, like that's, that's what's going on in my head. Like, oh, I'm crushing these open mics.

• 49:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:31Stavros Halkias?

  Barely doing okay. You know what I mean? But in my head, and then I hear the director's commentary and I think like Sandberg in two thousand seven was like in his thirties? Or some shit?

• 49:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:41Stavros Halkias?

  Like, like probably like when he got, when he got like, look how, look up how old Andy Sandberg is. Um, yeah, look up Andy Sandberg age.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Forty seven now.

• 49:51Stavros Halkias?

  So yeah, he's like 10 years older than me. So he was like, um, so yeah, I don't, I don't even know. Maybe, maybe, maybe I got the DVD in college or whatever. Um, or I guess he's 11 years older than me, but either way, he was like 30.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:04Stavros Halkias?

  And when you're a fucking teenager, you're, that's the oldest anyone ever is.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're just like, I have to wait that long to make it?

• 50:10Stavros Halkias?

  What?

• 50:11Speaker 03

  I think he was also maybe on SNL at that time, but it is just like, he had to work to get to that point. Yeah.

• 50:16Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 50:17Speaker 03

  And then the movie wasn't a hit. So you're like, fuck, if that isn't even like it for him.

• 50:22Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  And he's, he's on SNL. That's the biggest thing in the world. Yeah. You're like, well, shit.

• 50:25Stavros Halkias?

  No, I was like, cause they just mentioned how old they were when they got to make the movie. And I was like, fuck.

• 50:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:30Stavros Halkias?

  But they're, and yeah, exactly. They're on SNL. Same thing with like when I realized how old Mulaney was when he did his fucking half hour. He's like 24 or something. I was like, what?

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:39Stavros Halkias?

  Fuck.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  That's, it's also You only hear now of the ages that it's like miraculous that someone did a thing like everyone now being like PTA was 26 when he made Boogie Nights and it's like, yeah, everyone kind of did things when they were younger back then. It's hard to compare, but now it's also like, you hear about like a 22 year old that's starring in a Fox show and you're just like, god damn it. I'm, I'm really fucking up. And it's like, no, you're not.

• 51:02Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:02Speaker 03

  It's hard to not think that all the time.

• 51:04Stavros Halkias?

  Sorry, man. You're not an incredibly, you're not one of a handful of people that was incredibly lucky and had incredible talent.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly.

• 51:12Stavros Halkias?

  Like big fucking deal.

• 51:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:13Stavros Halkias?

  You can't compare yourself to that.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  Sorry, you're not the son of Channing Tatum or anything.

• 51:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:18Stavros Halkias?

  And luckily, uh, you know, fuck, who gives, uh, it's nice being like old and mediocre and not really giving a fuck.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  Do you feel like at where you are in your career, you're like, I'm doing good or like you've made, yeah.

• 51:29Stavros Halkias?

  Dude, I passed every dream I had.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:32Stavros Halkias?

  Like so, I just wanted to headline shitty comedy clubs.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:36Stavros Halkias?

  I wanted to make $72,000 a year with no insurance and play Magoob's Joke House and fucking every Funny Bone and every like, and it's been very surreal to be like, oh, fuck, what do I do now?

• 51:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:49Stavros Halkias?

  You know?

• 51:49Speaker 03

  You're like, I guess I'll do Bagonia.

• 51:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  Which I saw it, by the way.

• 51:54Stavros Halkias?

  You saw it?

• 51:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:55Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, fuck, yeah, dude.

• 51:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:57Stavros Halkias?

  It's where I'm really fucking excited for that.

• 51:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, yeah.

• 52:00Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying though. It's like shit like that has started happening where I'm like, what?

• 52:04Speaker 03

  I think there's something to it. It's like, that stuff happens when you are not someone who is trying so hard for it to happen.

• 52:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, true.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  And I think the people who are like, I gotta make this, it sometimes just feels a little like, it's almost like, ah, you want it too much.

• 52:17Stavros Halkias?

  Totally. No, there's definitely like a fat, a classically trained fat actor who's gonna watch that movie and like, shoot like, and, and take my, a picture of my head shot to like a gun range.

• 52:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:26Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? He's like, well, this fucking guy?

• 52:28Speaker 03

  Paul Walter Hauser making a dark orbit. Not me, huh?

• 52:31Stavros Halkias?

  I'm coming, PWH. Your fucking reign is the fat guy in Hollywood's coming to a close, motherfucker.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  There can only be one at a time.

• 52:42Stavros Halkias?

  Exactly, exactly. No, uh, there has to be a coup. There's gotta be a fat actor coup. I'm taking the top spot. Um, but yeah, dude, it's fucking crazy. But you know, it is interesting how, how things have gone. Cause it's like, you know, I mean, same thing for you where it's like, you should do a bunch of shit. You got, you get to do a bunch of like, interesting, creative shit and that's what's, that's what is fun about comedy right now is that, yeah, there, there's no like, system that you thought was gonna happen.

• 53:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:12Stavros Halkias?

  But you get to do a bunch of different shit, you know, like.

• 53:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I, I, I have to keep reminding myself that like, I'm so lucky to be doing what I'm doing, cause there are times where I'm just like, I'm not doing what I thought I'd be doing, or like, well, I wanna be doing this instead, and it's like, people always ask me like, well, you've made it, how do you get, and I'm like, I don't think I have, but when everyone thinks you have, you have to at least accept it a little, it's like, to a, a, like, when people are asking you for advice, or being like, how do I get there, and you're like, I don't know, I haven't made it, it's like, you kind of.

• 53:38Stavros Halkias?

  You have, you definitely have, where it's like, I mean, the first step is making a living from it, right? That's number one, that's really, when you don't have to do other annoying shit, that's number one.

• 53:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:49Stavros Halkias?

  And then it's like, you know, uh, it's just like a different, it's a different like, landscape than when we grew up, where we're like, oh, I'll be on TV, I'll have my own show, I'll fucking do whatever. But it's like, so many people interact with your shit.

• 54:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:03Stavros Halkias?

  And people, you also have no, the, the hard part is a little bit, it's like, you don't really have any control of what people, how people look at your stuff, what they, what they even know you from, you know what I mean?

• 54:13Speaker 03

  You have no control, like, there are times now where people will just be like, oh my god, the, the guy I know from this thing also does this, I'm like, yeah, I've been around, I've lived thirty, yeah, I've lived for thirty-three years, yeah, I've done other stuff.

• 54:24Stavros Halkias?

  Guys can do more than one thing.

• 54:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's like, you just, the way that people interact with you is never about you, it's about their perception of you.

• 54:31Stavros Halkias?

  For sure, for sure, and you have to just kind of accept that and be like, alright, uh, who gives a fuck, as long as I don't have to go to a fucking shitty office.

• 54:37Speaker 03

  Right.

• 54:37Stavros Halkias?

  I don't fucking care. Let's take some of this beautiful expertise to our callers, Demi, uh, and let's, uh, here at the halfway point, if there's anything you'd like to plug, any special coming either soon, or it's already out, we don't know yet, folks.

• 54:51Speaker 03

  If this is, if it's past, I think, November nineteenth, I have a special that's out right now on Dropout, called Demi the Juibe is going to do one backflip.

• 54:59Stavros Halkias?

  Hell yeah.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  And the entire premise is, I'm going to do one backflip, and there's fifty-nine other minutes.

• 55:08Stavros Halkias?

  I love that shit, dude, uh, so, go see Does He Do It, folks. Only one way to find out on Dropout, right now, or soon.

• 55:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, or something's happened and they're like, hey, we can't put this out. There are three options.

• 55:23Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, or he killed himself doing the dropout.

• 55:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:25Stavros Halkias?

  You just fell onto your head. They they're not going to air it.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:30Stavros Halkias?

  But, you know, we'll see. Only one way to find out.

• 55:33Speaker 03

  It's true.

• 55:33Stavros Halkias?

  Did he survive?

• 55:35Speaker 03

  I won't tell.

• 55:36Stavros Halkias?

  Did he survive the attempt?

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• 57:03Speaker 03

  Did a bag flip. What do we got, Big Eld?

• 57:07Speaker 06

  Hey, Stav, Eldis, esteemed guests. Appreciate you taking the call. Um, so I've had this issue with one of my buddies. We've been friends for, you know, maybe five years, something like that. Um, we've gotten pretty close over the five years. Um, we both have long-term partners, long-term girlfriends. We both live with our girlfriends. And recently, like a couple of months ago, my buddy came to me and told me that he cheated on his girlfriend.

• 57:36Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 57:38Speaker 06

  Now he was kinda like bragging about it.

• 57:40Stavros Halkias?

  Ah.

• 57:41Speaker 06

  Which really turned me off from the dude. You know, just like shitty behavior that was, I don't know, kind of acceptable in our early twenties, but now we're, you know, in our thirties. Um, so that that kinda turned me away from the guy. And then a couple of months after that, um, his girlfriend called my girlfriend late at night, came over crying and just kinda unloaded a bunch of stuff about their relationship, how he's kinda shitty to her and.

• 58:12Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 58:13Speaker 06

  All this stuff, um. So I guess my question is, you know, and and since that night, we haven't spoken at all. Like, we went from hanging out, you know, a couple of times a month, maybe once.

• 58:27Stavros Halkias?

  He just hasn't given that guy no idea.

• 58:29Speaker 06

  To not speaking.

• 58:30Stavros Halkias?

  It's been kinda weird after I told him that awesome story. Probably jealous.

• 58:34Speaker 03

  I'm sure he's busy or jealous.

• 58:35Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  He'll get out of his system and hit me up to play Madden soon.

• 58:40Speaker 06

  Once or twice a week even to not speaking at all.

• 58:46Speaker 06

  And it's been about two months. My question is, do I just let that friendship die? Or is it my responsibility to be a good friend, step in, check in? Kinda see what's going on with the dude, see if there's a path to redemption. I don't know, kinda simple here.

• 59:08Stavros Halkias?

  Interesting.

• 59:08Speaker 06

  Uh, appreciate any advice. And, uh, yeah, love the pod. Thanks.

• 59:14Stavros Halkias?

  Did he say how long they'd been friends, Eldis, at the beginning?

• 59:17Speaker 04

  He said about five years.

• 59:18Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. So they're friends for five years and their girlfriends know each other through like, so it's not like they're friends through the girlfriends. They've been friends.

• 59:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, they've been friends.

• 59:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what it seems like.

• 59:28Speaker 03

  It, the, I feel like there's definitely an option between let the friendship die and like check in to check like how the friend is doing, because I feel like the ultimate thing is, as soon as, well, as soon as it happens, it's like you should have been, you kind of wanna go like, oh, I don't think I'm taking this in the way that you want me to.

• 59:46Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  It's like, I don't think this is cool.

• 59:48Stavros Halkias?

  It's like, oh, okay.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, like cheating is one thing, but like, the idea of like bragging about being like, pretty cool, just feels like a bad read of your friend and also of your own self.

• 59:58Stavros Halkias?

  Right, that's the thing. It's like, look, is cheating on a partner a fucking like, you gotta excommunicate someone? Not necessarily. Context really matters.

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:07Stavros Halkias?

  And like, look, like, all, sometimes you have to decide, are your frie- does it really your fucking business what your friend's relationship is? Sometimes it is, right? Like if they're a close friend and they come to you and your life is like interconnected and you care about the partner and whatever, but look, I have friends who are not, I'm not very close with it. It's like, I don't fucking even know what's going on with their, with their relationships. And ultimately, it's like if a friendship is like, kind of tertiary or like, I'm not gonna get involved on every fuck, everybody's fucking morality, whatever, whatever the fuck. But this guy thinks you're a scumbag. That's the cra- like, this guy came to you,

• 1:00:48Stavros Halkias?

  like dude, isn't this awesome? We should go cheat, like, the, and, and almost like you, like he was expecting you to be like, hell yeah dude, let's all, let's go cheat on our girlfriends together. And it's like, this doesn't seem like a guy who, if you had this kind of reaction to him judging you this way, you guys are just not aligned at all.

• 1:01:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:08Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? This is not a guy you want to be close with.

• 1:01:10Speaker 03

  It's also, it's like, it's also that thing that women say where it's like men need to check their friends where it's like, this is a, this is one of those scenarios where it's like if a guy comes to you just being like, pretty cool, huh? Like you, your gut is to be like, I don't want to rock the boat. I don't want to make commitment, but it's also, you gotta be like, I don't know, the least you gotta do is be like, I don't know, man. I don't think, I don't love that.

• 1:01:32Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, exa- exactly. And it's like, look, that he might not give a fuck at all, right? He might just go be like, alright, well, I'm gonna go find cool guys to hang out with, right?

• 1:01:40Speaker 03

  At which point it's decided for you. You're like, alright, not my friend.

• 1:01:42Stavros Halkias?

  But you're right. It's like, if this is something you feel strongly about and it's a close friend of yours, you should be like, look, man, it's not fucking cool to cheat on your girlfriend. You know what I mean? Like,

• 1:01:52Speaker 03

  And when she comes to you complaining about the relationship, it, that's another moment where you should turn your friend and be like, hey, you really got us, it's like, she's like, she's clearly unhappy, like you've done this thing. It's like, there's no way for you to be impartial, just like, ah, who knows what's going, it's like you know, you know the score. You kinda gotta be like, dude, you're fucking up. Let her go or fix this.

• 1:02:13Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, I think the element for me is that clearly their girl- girlfriends are friends if she's coming over this seem and you know he says they've been friends for five years um I don't we don't know how long their relationships are but we can assume they're pretty serious relationships where it's like your lives are sort of intertwined in like a double date sort of friend group way yeah so yeah I agree with you judging all this you should have been like first like you probably care about his girlfriend where you're like it's it's one thing if it's like your your like best friend comes to you with a confession about cheating on his like significant other who you're not as close with and he has like

• 1:02:57Stavros Halkias?

  he's coming to you as a friend for like support like I fucked up that how do I fix this what do I do? And it's a completely different thing where this guy's comes looking for a pat on the back because he's fucking up not only his relationship but also probably your social life yeah like now you kind of have to lie to this girl you know this secret he's put you in a fucked up place this feels more like you can blow up this friendship and you can even be like hey man this is why we're not friends yeah because like there is something to be like it's not fucking cool to cheat and it's not cool for you to fucking put me in this position and you shouldn't if you feel this way you should fucking you know break up with her also don't you kind of want like don't you kind of want that from a friend like a friend who's gonna be honest with you and be like this thing kind of

• 1:03:40Stavros Halkias?

  as opposed to just like quietly being upset with you and you be like what happened and then later being like well it's this thing you did three months ago it's like oh I didn't know a hundred percent that's one of the nice things you would think about friendship is it like you could just be that's what you want to be being honest my best friends are the ones who'll just be like I think it's weird that you did this I'm like thank god thank god you said that that was fucked up man yeah and yeah so I don't know and again we're not you know this show we're not even prudes here we're not even necessarily anti cheating if I'm gonna be completely honest with you you know like it's not I don't really Like, but this situation in particular, it's like, we're probably much more, we're probably much more forgiving of cheating than an average advice show.

• 1:04:23Stavros Halkias?

  But this particular one, just sums, sums very off vibes wise with this guy.

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  It could be anything also, though. It's like, it's, take away the aspect of cheating, and it's like, your friend did something that you are uncomfortable with, and it makes you see them a certain way, and that has created distance between you. It's like, the answer is like, you gotta talk about it.

• 1:04:41Stavros Halkias?

  That's a great point. That's a great point. As a general rule of advice, address it, and either it will be too big a gulf for you guys to get across, or, or you figure it out and you move forward, and you're actually better friends.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  Watch our next piece of advice be like, dude, don't tell her anything. Don't tell.

• 1:04:58Stavros Halkias?

  Your, don't snitch. Bro code, brother. In fact, when she comes up with problems, you say, that's not true. He treats you great. I see it. Gaslight her for him.

• 1:05:11Speaker 03

  Someone was hitting on him the other day, and he was like, I couldn't, I couldn't possibly.

• 1:05:15Speaker 04

  We were getting wings at the bar last Thursday.

• 1:05:17Stavros Halkias?

  What are you talking about? It was wing night with the guys. He wasn't out there. Apple's tracking must be fucked up. I heard, I heard with the new, you know, the new phones and the aluminum, all the systems got gone fucking crazy. You should go to the Apple store. Here's a gift card. Get yourself some AirPods.

• 1:05:36Speaker 03

  Genius bar, and it's like, uh, someone's like, yeah, I just, my boyfriend's been seeing at this spot, and it's clearly he's not there, and you're just like,

• 1:05:43Speaker 04

  um, what do I do here? Okay.

• 1:05:46Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, okay. We'll reboot your phone, ma'am. What else we got?

• 1:05:50Speaker 07

  Hey, Tommy. Love the show. Um, I have a question, and it's probably a pretty classic one, but my boyfriend has family things, obligations, birthday parties, meetups with his family, probably twice a week, or not twice a week, sorry, twice a month. And they're nice people, and I don't mind to go sometimes, but.

• 1:06:16Speaker 07

  I don't particularly hang out with my own family that much and I don't attend every single birthday party. We don't gather quite as much as they do and I think that that's great, but do I have to attend every single one of these things? I feel like I get guilted into it and made to feel like a bad person for just wanting to skip every once in a while. I don't skip the big things, but I I just feel like sometimes I'm obligated to go to these like little kid birthday parties and I don't go to some of my own families, like my family just doesn't do that. So maybe I'm a dick, I don't know. Uh, let me know your thoughts. Thanks, bye.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  I wish I could ask them who's guilting them, cuz I'm like, if it's your boyfriend, that sucks.

• 1:07:06Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:07:07Speaker 03

  It doesn't matter. If it's the family, it's like, that also, that doesn't matter.

• 1:07:11Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I mean, I think this could be some classic like, American person dating an ethnic person thing. This to me feels like, cuz this reminds me of what we were talking about, like growing up in like, uh, even though we didn't have a big extended family, like, it was always someone's fucking birthday from church. It was always, there was always a thing to go to, and to be honest with you, I, my default is, I think that sounds kinda nice, right?

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  It does, yeah.

• 1:07:38Stavros Halkias?

  Like, even though, now maybe I'm a hypocrite because I have moved four hours from my family and I don't see, and it's like, maybe I'm being kind of like, oh, come on, that's nice, it's community, and it's like, if I had to do this, maybe I'd be going fucking crazy myself.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  I think it's the, the thing of having to do it more than like getting to. Like, when you get to opt into those things, be like, oh, I'd love to see my cousin, oh, yeah, I got this thing for him, like, that's fun. But when it feels like a thing, it's like, fuck, I can't miss that. It does start to feel like this.

• 1:08:07Stavros Halkias?

  I get it, but it's also like, who's, who's guilting her? It's probably no one in particular, right? And it's probably overall, people don't really give a fuck, but like, every, one person will say something every time she skips it, and it just feels like the collective is guilting her.

• 1:08:24Speaker 03

  If it's, if that is the case, I'm like, you kinda just gotta accept that that's like a, a comment they'll make and it doesn't mean anything. And if it does feel like it means something, then it's just sort of like. Except like that's part and parcel of the relationship.

• 1:08:38Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:08:38Speaker 03

  But you you deserve to not have to do those things. I like I don't think you're a bad person for not wanting to. If anything, I would be like, you're gonna hate me more if I show up to all these things and I feel like I have a bad attitude.

• 1:08:48Stavros Halkias?

  I'm pissed. And also, it's like, do you have reasons not to go? You know what I mean? Like, because you could have shit where it's like, oh, you know, you're busy or you have your own, you know, you have your own thing to do and like. You also at these things, you just kind of need a general excuse. It doesn't even have to be like airtight.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:09:07Stavros Halkias?

  And I know what you're saying. I shouldn't even have to worry about this if I just would rather be in my house than fucking eat shitty pizza and watch my fat nephew on a bouncy house. That you shouldn't have to admit, you shouldn't have, you shouldn't.

• 1:09:19Speaker 03

  Not even her nephew is the.

• 1:09:20Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your nephew in law or whatever the fuck.

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Stavros Halkias?

  Is it her husband or boyfriend?

• 1:09:24Speaker 03

  Boyfriend.

• 1:09:25Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, boyfriend.

• 1:09:26Speaker 03

  That's another thing. This is a boyfriend. If it's a husband, I understand a little more of it being like the family's just like, you're committed. You're in this family. Why not?

• 1:09:34Stavros Halkias?

  But that is the thing here. If it's a boyfriend, it seems to be getting serious enough where you're expected to go to these things. Certain families come with certain bullshit.

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:44Stavros Halkias?

  Right? Like, so you might marry into a fucking run a five K on Thanksgiving fam. My greatest nightmare. The family that does a fucking turkey trot.

• 1:09:53Speaker 03

  Family like that and they were upset that I wasn't doing the five K. I'm like, I don't, I would be like, I don't care.

• 1:09:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:59Speaker 03

  I'm I'm supporting you so much. I'll be the finish line. You you're not making me do that.

• 1:10:03Stavros Halkias?

  Still, though, because you're marrying into that family, you're gonna end up running more five Ks on Thanksgiving than you ever would have other.

• 1:10:10Speaker 03

  One hundred percent.

• 1:10:10Stavros Halkias?

  And if you marry into this family, you're gonna end up going to more annoying little kid birthday parties than you ever would have otherwise. And so some of this is like the, some of this is like, you have to decide. I mean, if if if this just might be how this family rolls.

• 1:10:28Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:10:28Stavros Halkias?

  And you might have to know that you give into certain things and maybe and compromise is usually where shit like this lands where. You're not gonna get to go, you're have gonna have to go to more than you want. But you're gonna and you're gonna miss more than his family wants you to.

• 1:10:43Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:10:44Stavros Halkias?

  And sort of nobody's happy, but. I do think when you enter, when you're looking at being serious in into like a family. It is important to at least sort of maintain like the like the cultures and traditions. Cause you don't wanna be like, you know. If it's really important, you just have to take that into consideration like, okay. I have to do this bullshit.

• 1:11:06Speaker 04

  I feel like she can, she probably hasn't even like told him this shit. He just assumes like, oh yeah, family thing, you'll come, we. We yeah, we'll get some food, blah, blah, blah. It'll be great. It's like. When, when I started like, you know, when I was dating like my wife years ago, I like. It was kinda tongue in cheek, but I just started, she would be like, oh. This nephew is having a birthday thing, or these friends are doing like a brunch and I just straight up have been like for years been like, am I on the hook? It's like, it's like, just ask what you're on the hook for.

• 1:11:39Speaker 03

  Also like a, a good closeness to have with someone you're dating and being like, let's be honest, like be honest with me. Do I have to do this?

• 1:11:45Stavros Halkias?

  That's a good point.

• 1:11:46Speaker 04

  I'll go, I'll go if you want me to, but like, you know, is this one like important?

• 1:11:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:50Speaker 04

  Or am I gonna be like? The only guy there and a bunch of little kids or some shit, or like, are the other boyfriends husbands, whatever.

• 1:11:58Speaker 03

  That's huge also. Cause it's just like, I'm the only one that's not in this family at this engagement. It's like, then what the fuck am I gonna do?

• 1:12:05Stavros Halkias?

  Totally, totally. No, that's a good point, Aldous. It's like, yeah, let's, let's open up some dialogue. He might not even give a fuck if you go, we don't know, we don't know, we don't have all the info, but that's really good. It's just be like, hey. I'm not going to all these fucking kids birthday parties. So let's pick the ones I, let me know the ones I absolutely need to go to. And different families have their, you know, and she says, I don't skip the big stuff. It's just. And look, hopefully. This is also, little kid parties do change, right? Like. At a certain point, the kid's fucking twelve, you're not going to a fucking, you're not going to a fourteen year old's birthday party. Like, yeah, right now, this might just be a really annoying next few years for you. Cause this is only really an issue from ages zero to like fucking five.

• 1:12:48Speaker 03

  But it's also like how many nephews in their family.

• 1:12:50Stavros Halkias?

  True. You're right. And it might be a renewable resource of new children.

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  Absolutely. Yeah, nephews having nephews. My mom, sometimes she'll call me and I'll just be like, where are you? She's like, oh, I'm in London. Uh, your cousin's brother's girlfriend is graduating.

• 1:13:07Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:07Speaker 03

  And I'm like, why did you? It's like, what's their name? Why are you there? You flew there for that? Okay. And I'm always like, thank God I don't have to. But I do feel like older generations of immigrant families are like, I'm going to as many of these as I can. And ultimately, like, sometimes they're like, oh, it'd be nice if you showed up. But they just, they just kind of want, it's like, the people in the family, they're just like, well, if you're part of this family, like, check in every once in a while. It's not, how dare you not come to everyone?

• 1:13:33Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:33Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:34Speaker 03

  But I get the feeling that that's an imposition.

• 1:13:36Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. I see, I really do see both sides because I do think it's nice when a family sees each other that often. But I also, like I said, moved away from my family the second I fucking financially could.

• 1:13:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:47Stavros Halkias?

  So I don't want to be a fucking hypocrite here. LD, what else, little, little motherfucker?

• 1:13:54Speaker 06

  Hey, Stav, Elvis, esteemed guest. Um, I'm, uh, twenty-five of, with my girlfriend here for five years. Um, coming up on six here and decided I want to propose here in a few months. Um, and the issue really is, uh,

• 1:14:21Speaker 06

  I, just since I've started telling people I'm gonna propose, uh, started like making it real, like, like really looking at rings and stuff and like, I think I finally found the one I want. Like, I've been, I don't know, just, I find myself like looking at other girls more and I guess just like, in general, kind of like having these like weird random thoughts where it's like, I don't know, is this really what I want? Uh, I don't know, I know I love her, but like. I don't know, it's just I can't help but feel for context, she's like pretty much the only girl I've ever been with.

• 1:14:52Stavros Halkias?

  Mm hmm, pretty much, huh?

• 1:14:54Speaker 06

  At least like this seriously, um, and like obviously we met when we were really young, like we were both nineteen.

• 1:15:01Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:01Speaker 06

  Um, and that like first freshman year of college, um, and been together since, and so I don't know. I'm also like surrounded but, um, in my work, there's a like, it's very female dominated and there's a lot of very attractive women, so I feel like that might not help. Um, anyways, just some general advice for a guy who like really still committed to my girlfriend, obviously, but.

• 1:15:29Stavros Halkias?

  Is it obvious?

• 1:15:31Speaker 06

  Just having these, you know, kind of cold feet stressing out feelings. Anyway, thank you.

• 1:15:36Stavros Halkias?

  That's really funny. I love always like, there's a lot of hot women in my office, so that doesn't, it's like, there's a bunch of hot women I also shouldn't fuck. On top of cheating, it would be weird to fuck. It's like, in my, it's at my job, it's like.

• 1:15:52Stavros Halkias?

  Having said that, I don't know that this is that crazy.

• 1:15:56Speaker 03

  I think this is a feeling that a lot of people have once they get into committed relationships, because I think everyone has this idea that like, once you find the one, there's no one else. And it's like, no, there are beautiful people everywhere, all of the time. That's not what it's about. It's about being like, wow, that person's beautiful. And yet, it's like, it's the same thing as like when people are like, women and men can't be friends. And it's like, well, that's only if you think every time you see a beautiful person, you're like, if I don't fuck them, I'm gonna die. And it's like, no, you can have feelings for a person and just be like, but no.

• 1:16:26Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, totally. And that's, that's a really great point. It's like, you're not, once you get, once you commit to someone, you're not saying like, well, I'll never see someone I'd like to fuck on an animal level ever like ever again in my life. No, you're gonna keep seeing that. You're choosing to commit to someone because it's, your relationship is more important than that. Now. Does this setup go against a lot of my gut reaction for success in marriage? Met when you're nineteen, you're kind of a dumbass, even though we love you. You're, you know, just the way you're describing this is you're a simpleton. You know what I mean? Like, um, uh, you're having these cold feet, you're twenty-five.

• 1:17:10Stavros Halkias?

  To get, to play devil's advocate, it's like, you know, are you too young or whatever? Maybe, but also the answer is just, do you wanna fucking do this for real?

• 1:17:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:20Stavros Halkias?

  Are you doing this because you feel some kind of pressure? Are you doing this like, you know, why do you wanna commit? And it, and, and if you really do, if you really search your thoughts and all that's give, or you're just kind of like worried about these feelings? No, man, everybody wants to, everybody still stays attracted to people. It's just you've decided you're marrying this person and also to sort of, you know, go back to the original argument, it's like, yeah, okay, you met kinda young, but you're not that young now, you're in your mid twenties. You're at a completely reasonable age to commit, you know, to, to, to get married to somebody. Um, so, you know, it's really just, I wouldn't worry too much if, if you're just like, fuck.

• 1:18:01Stavros Halkias?

  You're basically just having the like, wait, I'm really never gonna fuck another woman thought? That's basically what this is.

• 1:18:07Speaker 03

  Right, yeah.

• 1:18:08Stavros Halkias?

  That you're, you're having a hard time with that. If that's all it is, right? If you're just, then I think you're fine.

• 1:18:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:14Stavros Halkias?

  But if there's more stuff and you're not being honest with yourself and you're just, you know, proposing because you think you need to, but you're not really sure, then, you know, there's, hopefully still time, I don't know, this call might be from fucking three months ago and it's coming out in a month, so maybe you're fucked, I don't know, but.

• 1:18:31Speaker 03

  This also, uh, this is something I had to remind myself, cause I, I've been in scenarios where I feel this, where it's like, I've been dating this person for a while, but I'm, right, oh, there's all this, it's like, there's a hubris to men, where it's just like, I see these beautiful women, obviously they're all options. And it's like, alright, man.

• 1:18:47Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:18:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:48Stavros Halkias?

  How am I gonna stop from fucking these women?

• 1:18:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think Sam, Sam Morril had a great joke where he was like, uh, something about, where he was like, he's in a committed relationship, it's like, you know, sat down next to a beautiful woman on the plane and.

• 1:19:04Stavros Halkias?

  Didn't even look at me, so didn't cheat that, you know, like we dodged a bullet there, boys. I didn't have to cheat because you didn't even have any interest in me whatsoever.

• 1:19:12Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:19:12Stavros Halkias?

  But yeah, that's a, that is a good point.

• 1:19:14Speaker 03

  I think there's also like, and this is the like, living in a big city, knowing these kinds of people, sort of feeling that I now have with stuff like this, where it's sort of like, I think if you talk to your partner, at a certain point, you like, you can talk about this kind of thing, just be like, these are the reservations I have. And it's like, it's not like necessarily needing to approach like, polyamory or anything, but like just communicating that kind of thing, sometimes makes the feeling go away.

• 1:19:38Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 1:19:38Speaker 03

  And sometimes makes it where it's like, well, you both understand that that's how attraction works. And also maybe you're like, she's having the same feeling and you're like, let's take a year apart. And then like in that year, you'll be like, actually, she's the only one I want.

• 1:19:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, and then she's already had, you know, she's, she's like in a, she's got a harem of sexy guys.

• 1:19:53Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:19:54Stavros Halkias?

  You're fucked now. And now you, yeah, you spend the rest of your life being like, I was fucking stupid.

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  And you're like, well, I, I'm.

• 1:20:00Stavros Halkias?

  Take me back, bitch.

• 1:20:01Speaker 03

  I've been talking a lot to Trisha at work.

• 1:20:02Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. Yeah, your own suspension at work.

• 1:20:10Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, fuck. You got something else for us, little eldest?

• 1:20:15Speaker 06

  Hey, Savi, Eldy, esteemed guest. I called earlier, but dogs were barking and I didn't leave a lot of detail.

• 1:20:20Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 1:20:21Speaker 06

  Uh, so I've been getting a little bit more politically involved here recently and, you know, go to protests and stuff like that.

• 1:20:28Stavros Halkias?

  Nice.

• 1:20:29Speaker 06

  And it's causing a lot of friction.

• 1:20:31Stavros Halkias?

  Depending on which protest.

• 1:20:33Speaker 03

  Uh, well, in what way?

• 1:20:34Stavros Halkias?

  Depending on which protest you're going to.

• 1:20:38Stavros Halkias?

  Keep going.

• 1:20:39Speaker 06

  Causing a lot of friction between, you know, the people I know, like my family and some of my friends, like really MAGA. To like the point, it's not really like a healthy debate, it's them.

• 1:20:49Stavros Halkias?

  What?

• 1:20:49Speaker 06

  Screaming as hard as they can over me. And it's gotten to the point I don't even talk to these people. Uh, like a good friend of mine, he tried to convince me to join ICE.

• 1:20:59Stavros Halkias?

  Oh.

• 1:21:00Speaker 06

  And it did not go well. I haven't talked in since.

• 1:21:03Stavros Halkias?

  Oh my god dude, that makes me sick.

• 1:21:06Speaker 06

  How I should be handling the situation? Am I doing this wrong?

• 1:21:09Stavros Halkias?

  Join ICE? He's not even like, oh, we need to get our immigration under control. He's like, let's join ICE? Are you fucking kidding me?

• 1:21:17Speaker 03

  My good friend Dean Cain.

• 1:21:17Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:18Speaker 03

  It's fucking, yeah, that's, that's a, yeah, I mean.

• 1:21:21Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, signing up to be a fucking stormtrooper is what your friend wants to do. Anyone who joins ICE is a piece of shit.

• 1:21:28Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:21:29Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, there's no way around that. Like, and what they're fucking doing now where they're like, hey, we're, uh, salaries start at 50,000. And we, you know, we're, uh, forgiving debt for joining ICE.

• 1:21:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:42Stavros Halkias?

  It's like, do that for fucking teachers, you fucking pieces of shit. And also, society will be better.

• 1:21:46Speaker 03

  50,000?

• 1:21:48Stavros Halkias?

  Or whatever, it's some kind of, yeah, I know.

• 1:21:49Speaker 03

  But I just mean, like, the, the number you would have to, it's like, if you're gonna be like, sign up to do the fucking devil's work. It's like, start at 250 fucking K. All debts cleared.

• 1:22:00Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:01Speaker 03

  I have like diplomatic immunity. But even then, it's like, yeah, like, absolutely not. It's also, this is, sorry, I know we gotta finish the voice now.

• 1:22:08Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, no, please.

• 1:22:08Speaker 03

  The idea of like, we should join ICE. I'm like, that is a pivot from whatever, it's like, unless your life is we're doing nothing all the time. It's like, quit your job and join ICE.

• 1:22:18Stavros Halkias?

  Join ICE, bro.

• 1:22:18Speaker 03

  That's crazy. Sorry, continue.

• 1:22:21Stavros Halkias?

  Insane, but yeah, go ahead.

• 1:22:22Speaker 03

  I already have my answer for whatever it's gonna be, but continue, please.

• 1:22:25Speaker 06

  So like, how I should be handling the situation? Am I doing this wrong by just like outing these people, just like not talking to them anymore? Cause it's not just like uncomfortable, it's like demeaning.

• 1:22:37Stavros Halkias?

  Right.

• 1:22:37Speaker 06

  So, am I being a little bitch about it?

• 1:22:42Speaker 06

  Or should I really just cut these people out? I don't know. Cause it's, it's super fucking uncomfortable. Anyway, well, thank you, uh, you have a good one, love the show, eh, bye.

• 1:22:52Stavros Halkias?

  I mean, this is a, you know, obviously, this is an issue that a lot of people are going through and have gone. I mean, it's not, it feels worse now, but it's also been an issue that's like, every generation, there's things that, that are sort of like breaking points where people can't, you just have to have your line. And I think, in general, I do believe in general that you can get along with most people. And then I think a lot of the time, the biggest issue right now is how crazy the fucking political rhetoric has gotten. I think like, you know, Trump, I mean, literally, as soon as Trump, Trump was like, smart politically to heighten everything because he knows it's all fucking entertainment, but

• 1:23:35Stavros Halkias?

  that's, that's one thing when it's a fucking reality show, but when you're the actual fucking president, and you're talking about, you know, taking out your enemies and doing all this other shit, there becomes like a culture of like real violence that like, has, has really spread in a fucked up way and then there's been incredible, there's like, there's like, there's shit that's like, and I think when we're talking about ICE, like, it's one thing to be like, we can disagree, and it's like, yes, we can, but not when you want to join a fucking masked, like, fucking Nazi organization. Like, people that are literally, and it's like, this isn't even, this isn't even hyperbole at this point, where they are, they're a fascist organization where they're, they are disappearing people with no due process.

• 1:24:19Stavros Halkias?

  It's like a fundamental American thing, right? Like, this is shit that, if you are gleefully participating in or supporting it, to me, that is a deal, but that's where I'm like, I don't know that I can fucking, now, if it's your friend who you think is just parroting dumbass talking points, and you feel like you can have a real like, hey, don't these fucking people deserve basic dignity, and even if you agree with them politically, don't you think we should keep fucking rule of law? And we should keep, uh, you know, like we said, your day in court, like, very basic American shit? May, you know, maybe you can have a conversation, and I think it's important to try and be civil with people and not automatically think.

• 1:25:01Stavros Halkias?

  You know, because you disagree with everything that you couldn't get along, because I do think as trite as it is, if we were off the internet and we didn't, you know, all this shit is so divisive. When you see regular people that you don't even necessarily agree with, you agree with ninety percent of shit.

• 1:25:18Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:25:18Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? And I think most people right now are, there's anger because of how fucked are, you know, the economic system is really.

• 1:25:25Speaker 03

  Everyone's just looking for someone to blame.

• 1:25:26Stavros Halkias?

  Exactly. And the easy thing, if you're, if the easy thing, a tried and true thing is blame the other person, right? Blame immigrants, blame gay people you don't understand, like blame whatever the fuck. And at the end of the day, it's like, if you feel like you can empathize with the anger these people have because their lives have been completely fucked up and point them in the direction of what's actually doing it, and you think there might be a solution, that's okay, but if people are really dug their heels in and, you know, you have to know when there's a time for you to be like, this, this relationship is not gonna get me anything.

• 1:26:04Speaker 03

  When it becomes demeaning and people are shouting you down, it does feel a little like, this is work that I'm doing where the end result is never gonna be, it's like they, they've dug their heels in so much, it just feels a little like, yeah, maybe take a break from that relationship. But it does suck to just feel like, where did this happen? When it's a good friend, it's just like, how did this radicalization happen in such an invisible way that you are now on the support of, let's join ICE?

• 1:26:27Stavros Halkias?

  Totally dude.

• 1:26:28Speaker 03

  Cause it's also like, ICE has been around for a while, but it's like, was there a point at which you guys talked about stuff and it felt like they're on my side and then like silently they somehow switched? That's the thing that I always don't get when scenarios like this where it is just like, people are like, and they're good friends of mine, I'm like, when did this happen that you didn't notice or like, was it all overnight? Was it just you never really talked about politics? Cause that feels, that feels like such a pivot, that it does feel like either this is something they just picked up overnight and they're like, I've decided this and you can easily be like, no, sorry, that's dumb.

• 1:26:59Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:59Speaker 03

  But.

• 1:27:00Stavros Halkias?

  Well, I mean, I definitely think it's probably just, I mean, ICE has become this like cultural. Uh, touchstone for like a lot of Trump's. Like they just, they see it as like being in, in fucking Trump's personal army.

• 1:27:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:13Stavros Halkias?

  Like it's become this thing where it's like a badge of honor to be like, we're gonna make this country. I get to be racist. I get to fucking, I get to actually, you know, a lot of presidential candidates talk about being racist, but he's gonna give me a badge and let me be racist for him. You know what I mean? Like.

• 1:27:29Speaker 03

  To anybody.

• 1:27:30Stavros Halkias?

  And I think, yeah, it's, everything's just heightened in a way that's fucking scary and legitimately, some of these jobs are probably, the how, that's how fucked up our economy is where it's like, for some people, they're like, okay.

• 1:27:43Speaker 03

  It's like joining the military.

• 1:27:44Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, exactly, exactly.

• 1:27:46Speaker 03

  Here's my thing, if, if, to their friend, would just be like, would you join the police? Like at any point in history and it's like, if the friend's like, I don't want to do that.

• 1:27:55Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, a hundred percent, by the way.

• 1:27:56Speaker 03

  Then why, like ICE being way worse and like.

• 1:27:59Stavros Halkias?

  This guy would love to join the police.

• 1:28:01Speaker 03

  Um, but it's the kind of thing where I'm like, why hasn't he?

• 1:28:04Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah. Well, because the, uh, probably because it's too fucking hard.

• 1:28:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:07Stavros Halkias?

  It's a lot easier to do, like that's the other thing is that they're just taking a lot of guys that probably couldn't have been in the police.

• 1:28:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:13Stavros Halkias?

  Which is fucking scary to think about. Guys that couldn't cut the fucking police exam are now like, alright man. Here's a fucking shysty. Here's a shysty. Go fucking grab any brown person and we'll figure it out later. So anyway dude, good luck. It is a classic thing and it does feel like thing, it does feel like things are even more, uh, politicized in a way, but if you can, try and have positive discussions. And if they comes to the point where like you said, it feels like it's demeaning and it's a, then you're, you're fine to cut these people off.

• 1:28:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I've spent too much time on the internet. Cause I'm just like, don't, just leave.

• 1:28:48Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:28:49Speaker 03

  Just cut it. Who gives a fuck?

• 1:28:50Stavros Halkias?

  I know, I know what you mean in some, and don't get me wrong. Plenty of times that will be the answer. But like a big thing we like to say is like, you gotta give people the chance to fail.

• 1:28:59Speaker 03

  Absolutely, yeah.

• 1:28:59Stavros Halkias?

  So it's like, and, and a lot of times it's like, and you know, we're pretty inspired by Zorron's campaign where that motherfucker's a smiley ass.

• 1:29:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:07Stavros Halkias?

  Nice guy who will talk to people who fucking hate him and, and try and make his point. And will it work on 90% of them? No, but it'll, it might work on 10%. And I do think we do need a little of that because a lot of these motherfuckers are, have just been, there's just anger at how bad the world is. And unfortunately. Nobody is offering them anything coherent outside of hate.

• 1:29:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:30Stavros Halkias?

  And, and like, maybe you could be a person who's like, no, man, it's not left or right, it's literally up and down. And it's fucking, it's the ultra wealthy that are doing this and your quality of life, you deserve more. And it, but it's not immigrants or fucking trans people that are taking it from you. It's your fucking bosses and your bosses, bosses, bosses.

• 1:29:48Speaker 03

  There's also this thing right now where it's like hate is the only thing that is culturally beneficial in, in times where people have nothing. It's like, if you're in a room and everyone's talking about something, everyone's just like, yeah, I liked it. Or it's fine. The one person who's like, I hate it. Feels like a little like, ooh, now you explain that.

• 1:30:05Stavros Halkias?

  Everyone listens to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:07Speaker 03

  Just because it's like, it's such a stronger feeling to hate something than it is to just sort of feel like, I feel no way about that.

• 1:30:13Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right.

• 1:30:13Speaker 03

  So they get power just by having a voice and like, speaking passionately about like, this is the problem from a, a, a false place of authority. And that happens in so many things that I'm always just like, oh, these people are like, talking about this movie in a way where like, everyone's really still fucking stupid about this movie. Cause it's like, people start going like, oh, I guess we don't like this movie.

• 1:30:30Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, you're guaranteed to be that guy. Like, when something's awesome, like, I can't wait, someone's gonna be the first one battle after another contrarian.

• 1:30:38Speaker 03

  It's happened. Yeah.

• 1:30:39Stavros Halkias?

  You know what I mean? Like, you're gonna get, and that's fine, doesn't matter. Like, that movie fucking rules, but it's like, but you're right, no matter, sinners, there's always someone who's like, this shit sucks. They'll just pick a movie that's awesome, or any cultural thing that's awesome. And you do get attention by being like, this thing sucks.

• 1:30:54Speaker 03

  Yes. I mean, that's how Trump became, it's like, yeah, just being a person who's like, I'm gonna say the insane things that no one is saying. It's like, that's, you get attention.

• 1:31:02Stavros Halkias?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:31:03Speaker 03

  And then everyone's like, did you see this thing? We all gotta share this.

• 1:31:05Stavros Halkias?

  Maybe we should all be fucking crazy too. This is fucking awesome.

• 1:31:09Speaker 03

  One hundred percent.

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• 1:32:35Stavros Halkias?

  Let's play another one, LD, and then begin to wrap it up here, but.

• 1:32:41Speaker 07

  Hi, Stavi.

• 1:32:44Speaker 07

  I was wondering in dating, like, what is the line between kind of being yourself?

• 1:32:53Stavros Halkias?

  Being yourself?

• 1:32:54Speaker 07

  You know, not like coming on too strong or like revealing, I guess, too much of.

• 1:33:00Stavros Halkias?

  Sure.

• 1:33:02Speaker 07

  I like to talk to people weird and just say a lot of strange shit. And I want to make sure that, you know, they can keep up with it and like be funny with me. But sometimes I worry that like if I'm just like too strange, like right away, that it's just gonna be a bit overwhelming. So I don't know, like, how to, how to balance that. Um, I'm also like, I'm a pretty open person. I have, I, I have a hard time maybe not

• 1:33:44Speaker 07

  oh, um, so kind of how to like reel it in without like sacrificing who I am.

• 1:33:53Stavros Halkias?

  Okay.

• 1:33:53Speaker 07

  Alright.

• 1:33:54Stavros Halkias?

  I'm gonna say you sound annoying.

• 1:33:59Stavros Halkias?

  Just, just off the top, it's like.

• 1:34:02Speaker 03

  I disagree. But I also, I also think, I also think my take on this is a controversial one, but you go ahead.

• 1:34:07Stavros Halkias?

  But okay, annoying in that like, if your problem is like, I just can't stop. And by the way, I say this because I'm someone who has a hard time. If so, if I don't like something, it's coming out no matter what the, no matter what the like, social ramifications are or like, uh, and also be anytime you ever be like, how do I reel myself in? It's like, yeah, I mean, I do think that there is a little reeling in that happens in polite society.

• 1:34:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:34Stavros Halkias?

  And on first couple of dates, it's like, you know, are you yourself at a fucking interview? At a job interview? Like, like that's the thing. It's like, there is, and true intimacy is letting somebody in on your, on your weird shit. Over time as you grow, as you grow, like, you know, I think there is something to being a, you know, being the sort of accessible version of yourself, being the like blockbuster Marvel movie version of yourself before you're the art house. Sort of like, oh, there's no real plot. Oh, this, this, this third act was just fucking weird or whatever.

• 1:35:11Speaker 03

  Vibes based.

• 1:35:12Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, being vibes based. It's like, you know, don't, we all have good and bad in us, right? And I'm not even saying your personality is bad. I'm busting your balls by saying you're annoying, but, but like, I just think in general, it ain't bad to be eighty per, like, just like, if you got some shit that's particularly, you know. It just just to like not full, you don't have to fully be yourself immediately, right? Even though I would, you know, if you're confident enough, there's one, you know, we can get there, but I I I see it as a like, let's leave a little something to show to, cause you do want the person you're with or the person you're dating to get fu- fully who you are. And I don't know that you need that at all times.

• 1:35:56Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:35:56Stavros Halkias?

  This is is my philosophical idea. And it seems like she's only asking if this has become a problem. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, if she's asking us this question, people have been like, alright, that was fucking, you know, what the fuck was that about?

• 1:36:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I I'm a little like, what do you mean by, like, what, give examples, but.

• 1:36:14Stavros Halkias?

  I was like, I like to pull my gun out at bowling. It's my thing.

• 1:36:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, don't.

• 1:36:19Stavros Halkias?

  No, no, I'm sure she's not like that.

• 1:36:21Speaker 03

  Don't Lebowski. My thing here is, and this is a feeling I have about dating where it's like, my big problem with dating is that everybody has their own rules and no one wants to share them. So sort of thing was that people go on to dates, it's like, well, if a guy does this, or like, I don't like when a girl, and it's like, all these things that they take in and you feel like you have to read each other's minds, and I think it's insane. And I think the best way to date, the only, the times I've ever had like the best date has always been like, be fucking crazy. I love, I, cause it's also like, you get to be yourself, you don't feel like you're performing, and also, if you find someone who vibes with that, it feels so good. And the times I'm most attracted to anyone I'm dating is when I'm like, you're a little weird. I'm like, I kinda like, like, we're vulnerable, like, this date's gonna go for a while, cause I'm like,

• 1:37:03Speaker 03

  what is that? Why are you doing that? Or like, what do you mean by, it's just, it's so fun to not feel like you're performing for this other person, and then having to be like, do I wanna go on a second date to figure out more? Do I wanna go on a third date to finally figure out the questions I had on the first date? But I also think that's the thing that you can only do when it's like, you're so comfortable with being weird that you're like, I don't care if they didn't like that, I had a good, yeah.

• 1:37:22Stavros Halkias?

  Well, that's the thing, I think the ideal that people would like to get to is to fully be yourself in all situations. I just think that's a very hard thing to do in in practice, right? And so, um, a- and like, and I'm with, I think that strategy is high risk, high reward.

• 1:37:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:37:40Stavros Halkias?

  Where it's like, if you hit it off with someone. When you really feel like you're being yourself and I again, what does that even mean? Because I'm not convinced that that isn't a little performative, right?

• 1:37:49Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah.

• 1:37:49Stavros Halkias?

  They're being like, I'm fucking crazy. It's like, are you? Or you know what I mean? Like, what is it so nuts about you?

• 1:37:55Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:37:56Stavros Halkias?

  And like, are you overdoing it to be, because you, because you identify as a, as a weird person or a crazy person? It's like, as long as what you're doing is not perf- I would just say it doesn't have to be performative. And I would even say sometimes being the like subdued version of yourself, you know? Is that a little, is that a little bit of a performance? Sure, but I think you're, it is kind of realistic where it's like, you know, you just don't, you don't hit everyone with, you know, you don't, you don't go guns blazing right away.

• 1:38:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:38:25Stavros Halkias?

  If, especially if she's asking the question, right?

• 1:38:28Speaker 03

  If it has become a problem in your life, then it's like, maybe try and figure, yeah, figure out what the balance is. But you also don't want it to be like, don't perform at any level where at some point you'll have to be like, okay, we're five dates in, surprise, here's this thing.

• 1:38:44Stavros Halkias?

  I'm not Irish.

• 1:38:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. I'm not Irish and it's like, I know, you are, you are a dark skinned black man. With an American accent.

• 1:38:56Stavros Halkias?

  I was lying this whole time.

• 1:38:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. You pronounced Guinness wrong.

• 1:39:01Stavros Halkias?

  Um, yeah, I don't know. It's like, I, I just would, I actually would like to know what, what she's been doing.

• 1:39:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:39:09Stavros Halkias?

  So.

• 1:39:09Speaker 03

  So many of these questions, I'm just like, tell me a little, like, explain that a little bit more.

• 1:39:13Stavros Halkias?

  Of course, that's, that's most of this fucking show, to be honest with you. You got a nice one for us to go out on here, little eldest?

• 1:39:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is, uh, from a caller who has a bone to pick with how hard you ragged on him.

• 1:39:25Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, interesting.

• 1:39:26Speaker 04

  It was from the Julio and Ricky episode, the guy who called in who said, his girlfriend was mad because she saw his Instagram feed and it was like all chicks showing ass. And he even mentioned like, he was like, sometimes it might be like a sexy cartoon or something.

• 1:39:42Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, the cartoon, I remember, that's fucking wild.

• 1:39:44Speaker 04

  So he just says.

• 1:39:45Stavros Halkias?

  And we just called him a loser, basically.

• 1:39:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's just responding.

• 1:39:52Speaker 06

  Follow up call, I'll just send you screen these, so if it doesn't make the pot again, then it is what it is. But, thank you for having my back. Stop, bros. What the hell, man? My girlfriend was on my ass about lust and obscenity on my Instagram reel.

• 1:40:08Stavros Halkias?

  Oh, I remember this.

• 1:40:09Speaker 06

  Dude, you got on my ass about the cartoon. I was trying to be, I was being vulnerable, and I got ripped apart. You were talking about all these Ja Morad dunking highlights. Yeah, I get those too. I'm a fan of Pokemon. There's some Pokemon trainers that were badass in the game. That alone got my ass hot water from my girlfriend. Still together, by the way. So, your advice did help. We met a middle ground. I appreciate, um, y'all's expertise. But, Jesus, I got torn apart like I'm some sort of cartoon creeper, banking it to...

• 1:40:40Stavros Halkias?

  You were getting horny to cartoons.

• 1:40:41Speaker 06

  A bunch of cartoons.

• 1:40:43Stavros Halkias?

  You were.

• 1:40:44Speaker 06

  For comedy's sake, but golly, I should have added some more context. Love you guys.

• 1:40:48Stavros Halkias?

  You think this helps? You think the fact that you felt the need to call back and be like, "Stop saying I jack off to cartoons." I just, they were just badass.

• 1:40:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:40:58Stavros Halkias?

  The Pokemon.

• 1:40:58Speaker 03

  They're really cool.

• 1:40:59Stavros Halkias?

  I respected their ability as Pokemon trainers.

• 1:41:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can't, I, I thought it was powerful how she could walk with tits like that.

• 1:41:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, I didn't, yeah. I mean, what do you, I didn't, I didn't think about fucking, uh, fucking Misty while, uh, the fucking star-shaped one shot a jet of water up my ass. I wish I knew, what was it, Licky Tongue? Licky Tongue ate my ass while Misty sucked me off? I wasn't jacking off to that idea. You're, why, why did you make fun of me for that?

• 1:41:27Speaker 03

  Here's my thing about like cartoon, like cartoon porn and stuff like that. I'm like, own it. And, and I'm not saying that like, uh, like you should be proud, but I'm just like, I think it's the kind of thing where it's like, you, having shame about some of these things feels like a self-defeating, where it's like, I have to hide it, so now I'm liking these things, and it's just, it's just, it's like, it becomes this weight, and I'm like, I think you can just be like, yes, I think this is hot. And it's like, to your girlfriend, it's like, that is not gonna be something where she's like, well, my insecurity here is you want Misty and not me.

• 1:41:58Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:41:59Speaker 03

  You can just be like, I think this is hot. It's completely separate from you.

• 1:42:02Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:42:02Speaker 03

  But in, in general, like, the other stuff, I'm like, I don't, I don't, that is...

• 1:42:06Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, listen, man, don't, yeah, why did you call only being mad about the fucking cartoons? You know what I mean? You were horny about other stuff. We made fun of you for being horny about that, too. So yeah, own it if you want it, if your dick gets hard at cartoons. Nothing wrong with that. Now, and now, does that mean we're not gonna make fun of you? No. It doesn't mean that.

• 1:42:28Speaker 03

  I don't think you should call into this show if you're like, I got a serious thing I wanna say about these cartoons.

• 1:42:32Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, these cartoons make my dick hard. Don't make fun of me about it. Come on, dude. What are you talking about here? And we're not even guys who haven't looked at cartoons with their tits out. Everyone's gonna take a ga- it just, but it is-

• 1:42:45Speaker 03

  Whether or not-

• 1:42:46Stavros Halkias?

  The fact that it's on your Instagram is kinda hilarious, that that made into his algorithm.

• 1:42:51Speaker 03

  What I will say is that like, alga- Instagram algorithm, I'm like, there's a little bit of your input there.

• 1:42:56Stavros Halkias?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:42:57Speaker 03

  I think in general on the internet, it's like, whether or not you're trying to see that shit, you will.

• 1:43:01Stavros Halkias?

  For sure.

• 1:43:01Speaker 03

  But the fact that it's on your Instagram algorithm, I'm like, except that there's a little bit of like, either you are liking Pokemon in general a lot, and it's just sort of like, well, you like Pokemon, you like these beautiful women, why don't we combine it?

• 1:43:10Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:43:11Speaker 03

  Uh, or what not, but I also think it's like, I, I think there is, this is advice that I also need to take myself, where it's like, there is a thing about sexuality within relationships that people get like in trouble just being like, I saw this beautiful woman and I, I liked it, and it's like, and it's like this thing where like, their partners are like, is that what you secretly want and not me? Am I comparing myself to that? And you are secretly being like, well, I like this thing also, and I, I like my girlfriend too, but I also am like, horny and I should feel shame about it. I'm like, I think if you, if everyone was just sort of like, this thing is hot to me also. It, it doesn't feel like this thing that you are, you were like hiding in shame, as opposed to just being like, I just have to not think about it at all. It just feels a little like, it's just gonna make it worse.

• 1:43:51Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah, look, this is hot to me, I have Marge's clothes. You wanna put on Marge's green dress and the pearls? Great. You wanna put on the big blue wig? Great. If not, no big deal.

• 1:44:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's fine. You're out of town?

• 1:44:02Stavros Halkias?

  Just say it that way.

• 1:44:03Speaker 03

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna call up a hotline and have a girl go, "Oh, homie!" But I'm thinking of you. I'm thinking of you.

• 1:44:09Stavros Halkias?

  Yeah. You don't wanna do the voice, that's great.

• 1:44:11Speaker 03

  I'm gonna, you first rise to refusal.

• 1:44:13Stavros Halkias?

  You don't wanna take the voice acting lessons I set up.

• 1:44:15Speaker 03

  That's fine.

• 1:44:16Stavros Halkias?

  That's on you. You don't wanna get the surgery to permanently make your skin yellow, that's fine.

• 1:44:22Speaker 03

  You don't wanna let me wear the glasses that make your skin yellow. It might be fine, whatever.

• 1:44:28Stavros Halkias?

  Uh, but yeah, man. Sorry. We're obviously gonna make fun of you for that, but good luck. You know, good luck. And by the way, your girlfriend also, we, we made fun of her for talking about lust. Cause there was tits on your fucking Instagram.

• 1:44:40Speaker 03

  It's very Catholic code.

• 1:44:42Stavros Halkias?

  Totally. Super religious.

• 1:44:43Speaker 03

  Lust and obscenity.

• 1:44:44Stavros Halkias?

  Lust is so funny to hear from your girlfriend, not like your grandmother. Anyway, good luck. Keep beating off to those cartoons and, uh, you know, we'll talk to you next time. Demi, thanks so, so much.

• 1:44:55Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me. Yeah.

• 1:44:57Stavros Halkias?

  Go watch the special on dropout either now or soon.

• 1:45:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, at some point in the past, present, or future.

• 1:45:05Stavros Halkias?

  Right, right. Exactly. It exists in time.

• 1:45:08Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 1:45:09Stavros Halkias?

  At some point in comparison to your, when you're listening to this right now. Uh, we will be on the road too. We're actually probably on the road right now. Uh, we'll, we'll put the fuck, you'll, you'll know about it. Who cares? Uh, I'll see you next week. Bye, bye guys.

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