Fraud Friday: The Fake Heiress at Mar-A-Lago w/ Kimia Behpoornia

This week, Kimia Behpoornia (Atypical, Reboot) joins Laci to discuss how the FBI was looking into a woman who spent considerable time at Trump’s Mar-A-Lago estate, claiming to be an heiress. Plus, a manga artist was scammed out of 75 million yen by someone who claimed to be Mark Ruffalo. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 10/10/2022) CON-gregation, make sure to catch Laci's new TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Kimia Behpoornia: @childclown Research by Kaelyn Brandt. Sources: https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/anna-de-rothschild-trump-mar-a-lago-security-fbi-investigation/ https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/inventing-anna-ukrainian-born-scammer-posed-with-trump-and-wandered-mar-a-lago https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11151329/PICTURED-Ex-husband-Ukrainian-posed-Rothschild-infiltrate-Mar-Lago-meet-Trump.html https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14722566

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• 1:38Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:20Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and we're back with another installment of the podcast, Scam Goddess, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Maybe we love 'em, maybe we hate it. We'll see. As always, guys, I'm very what? Yes. Excited for our guest. And we have a friend on the show, and you always know what the friend episodes do. Y'all are prepared. Y'all know what's up. Um, I'm just gonna get straight into it. Today, we have a hilarious actress and comedian on the show. You've seen her in TV, on things like Netflix, Atypical, HBO's Hacks, just to name a few. She's currently in the Hulu comedy reboot, and follow her at ChildClown on Instagram.

• 3:03Laci Mosley?

  Congregation, please welcome Kimia Pibornia.

• 3:06Speaker 04

  Hi, you, Lacey. How's it going?

• 3:07Laci Mosley?

  My black queen.

• 3:08Speaker 04

  No, don't you dare. I knew I was gonna come on here and you were gonna do some shit like this. Please, no. They said I could ask for anything edited out, and if you do this, I will ask for these rumors to be squashed.

• 3:18Laci Mosley?

  Not getting edited out. I get a veto. And it is, look, Kimia and I have a running bit that she's black. And it's not a bit. I, I, she hasn't given me her 23andMe yet.

• 3:27Speaker 04

  I'm not gonna do that.

• 3:28Laci Mosley?

  So we are not sure. We're not sure. If you see, you gonna see a photo of her, and then y'all all gonna come on and be like, yeah, she is black. And also, I have seen, I have spotted Kimia at auditions. Years past.

• 3:39Speaker 04

  I have to hear this story one more time.

• 3:43Laci Mosley?

  At auditions, years past, Kimia like, I'm not black, I'm Persian, I'm Persian, with this curly ass hair, and I'm like, in these negro features.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  No.

• 3:49Laci Mosley?

  And, um, these full lips and this curly hair. I'm like, okay, sure, sure, you're not black. We had the commercial audition, and Kimia's like, I was like, why you here? Because this is a black family audition. She's like, no, they just called me in.

• 4:00Speaker 04

  They just called me in.

• 4:01Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Kimia's like, no, I'm not here with the black people. I'm here just, you know, as, as a, you know, ambiguous, whatever. Yeah, they call everybody, right? So we're like, okay, cool, cool. Sure, sure, sure. Then the casting directors come up and they're like, oh, Kimia, here, here's your family, all Negroes.

• 4:17Speaker 04

  That's not my fault. That's not my fault. You know, they don't talk to us, actors and commercials are just like little roaches.

• 4:23Laci Mosley?

  Everyone was black until black and Kimia got up and she went into that audition, y'all, because she knows she black. So I don't, I don't understand the vehemently denying of the blackness. Being black is great.

• 4:36Speaker 04

  I know. That's not my denial here. I think you're just erasing how Iranian I am.

• 4:41Laci Mosley?

  No, you can be Iranian and black. Look at the Kardashians. Just kidding, they're Persian.

• 4:46Speaker 04

  No, they're Armenian.

• 4:47Laci Mosley?

  They're Armenian, you're right. Yeah.

• 4:49Speaker 04

  Whatever they're doing is not what I'm doing.

• 4:51Laci Mosley?

  But them kids, I don't know. You look like you'd be one of the kids.

• 4:54Speaker 04

  I could look like I could be a Kardashian's kid? If you saw me on the Kardashians, wouldn't you freak out?

• 4:59Laci Mosley?

  No, no. Nope. And I'm looking at the booth, everybody laughing. Look at Jessica, look at Jessica.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  Oh, they're laughing as if they agree?

• 5:06Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  Okay, well, I'm available.

• 5:09Laci Mosley?

  Kimia's in here in a gold chain with the curliest hair, talking about she don't know that she black.

• 5:13Speaker 04

  You told me once that you buy Persian women's hair for your hair.

• 5:16Laci Mosley?

  I actually buy Brazilian women's hair.

• 5:19Speaker 04

  Okay, you must have changed. You must have upgraded or downgraded. I'm not sure, but.

• 5:23Laci Mosley?

  No, it's all great. It's all great. But that's, that's normally where my hair comes from if I'm purchasing follicles. You are, you, look, you, you are all those things. You are every woman. It's all in you, queen. Who sings? I'm every woman, a black woman. There we go.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  That's not evidence against me that that person sings that song.

• 5:42Laci Mosley?

  Against. See, see what I'm talking about?

• 5:44Speaker 04

  No, okay. Well, I could just stop.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  So we always ask on this podcast, Kimia, what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever been a part of a scam? It's outside of statute of limitations that you want to talk about, anything?

• 5:58Speaker 04

  Um, I have been scammed, but I've never done any scamming. I, um, uh, love rules, so I would never like break the rules or whatever, so I'm not supposed to do that.

• 6:06Laci Mosley?

  You are a rule follower. That's wild.

• 6:08Speaker 04

  It so sucks, huh?

• 6:09Laci Mosley?

  You know, rules are just made up by other people.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I make them a lot for myself too. So I even follow some that other people didn't put on me. I just make them up for me.

• 6:16Laci Mosley?

  Okay, well, rules for yourself is what everyone should live by, but rules that are just made up. by other random people. I don't subscribe to those.

• 6:21Speaker 04

  I like all kinds of rules. I don't see color when rules are coming by.

• 6:26Laci Mosley?

  Wow, a problematic icon. I don't see color. Wow.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  Okay, anyway, you want to know about the time I was scammed?

• 6:33Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I do.

• 6:34Speaker 04

  Okay, so I was um trying to go to Disneyland because my wife's uh mom was cancer free. And we were like, wow, let's take her to.

• 6:43Laci Mosley?

  Turn up.

• 6:44Speaker 04

  Let's go to Disneyland.

• 6:44Laci Mosley?

  Place full of germy children.

• 6:46Speaker 04

  Okay, well, she was fine, so you're saying that was a bad idea? It's okay. She wanted to go and um and we wanted to treat her, but it was like back when I didn't have a lot of money. So I was like on Craigslist being like, someone's got to have some Disneyland tickets, right?

• 6:59Laci Mosley?

  Treating her with Craigslist?

• 7:01Speaker 04

  Look, she didn't need to know where it came from, but I had to get the tickets.

• 7:05Laci Mosley?

  This was on me, y'all. I met somebody in the alley and now we're going to the place where dreams come true.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  Look, and joke was on me, okay? They posted that they were like, wow, I bought all these tickets. This person was like, oh, my aunt was gonna come into town and we have an extra ticket because she didn't come.

• 7:19Laci Mosley?

  Elaborate story.

• 7:20Speaker 04

  And then, okay, you're right. This was a huge red flag, but.

• 7:22Laci Mosley?

  Too, too many. All you gotta say is I got tickets. They were like, okay, my aunt was gonna come into town, but then she broke her hip. And she currently in a hospital. Y'all can go donate to the GoFundMe, but y'all can also buy these tickets off of us. But my aunt, her name is Sandra, and she a Libra. And um.

• 7:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, hearing it back now, I should have, you know, thought.

• 7:40Laci Mosley?

  But okay, so the Auntie Craigslist.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  Something and I reached out and I was like, okay, great. I'll take these tickets. Lovely. Um, because they were selling it at a discount because they bought like a five day, whatever, it doesn't matter. And so I met them in a parking lot.

• 7:52Laci Mosley?

  Hmm, as one does.

• 7:53Speaker 04

  Uh, and I, and they were there and they gave me the tickets and it was a little card, so it looked legit. It was a Disneyland card, ticket.

• 8:00Laci Mosley?

  And you go to Disneyland, so.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  I've been, I'm from LA, so I've been here, I've gone to Disneyland all my life, so it seemed regular. And then I was like, wow, thank you so much. I paid him whatever, a couple hundred dollars. Uh, and then we went to scan in the next day to Disneyland and they were like, no, these, these are. These haven't been purchased. Like they went at in the Ralphs, you know how they have those like little gift cards section or whatever? They went and just picked up a Disneyland thing and walked the heck out. No, and they didn't activate it at all and they sold that shit to me. And then I bought it and I was so mad. So I sent him a little text because I had their phone number and I was like, I I I did a little white lie and I was like, oh, you know, this was a cancer trip for my mom. And you sold us. Yeah, because she doesn't have, she didn't have cancer anymore.

• 8:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but it was a celebration of. And also you're married, so technically this is your mom. I see no lies.

• 8:51Speaker 04

  That's true. Okay. So you're right. So I didn't even scam the scammer. I just told her back the truth.

• 8:57Laci Mosley?

  I was just polite.

• 8:58Speaker 04

  To try to make her feel bad. Never received the text back at all.

• 9:03Laci Mosley?

  Of course not, because she had already robbed you. Now, how much did the cards cost?

• 9:07Speaker 04

  Shoot, I don't know. I feel like I paid her like two hundred bucks or less. It was either from eighty to two hundred dollars. This was so long ago.

• 9:15Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Now, what is an average Disneyland ticket cost?

• 9:18Speaker 04

  These days? I feel like it's two hundred dollars for if you want to go to two parks for like one person.

• 9:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:24Laci Mosley?

  I've only been once, but we had a tour guide, so I don't know what the cost is.

• 9:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, you paid like extreme Disney cost. Nobody. You didn't pay at all. So.

• 9:35Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 9:35Speaker 04

  Okay, well.

• 9:36Laci Mosley?

  And I would never go back unless it was like I went the first time.

• 9:40Speaker 04

  Well, of course, when you go like that, why would you go and be like a plebe?

• 9:44Laci Mosley?

  I don't understand why I would go to a park and wait in lines all day so I could ride what? Indiana Jones one time and maybe a teacup ride. Like, look, I fight kids. I'm, look, y'all know online I'm five nine, but in real life, I won't lie, I'm five one, which means I can fight kids. We the same height. You know what I mean?

• 10:03Speaker 04

  I have a big height.

• 10:04Laci Mosley?

  I'm in the weight class of kids. Okay, that means I can fight them. That's all I would have to fight them because I'm not about to wait in no lines.

• 10:12Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't see you. I can't even picture you at Disneyland waiting in a line. So that makes a lot of sense to me.

• 10:17Laci Mosley?

  Lines are really bad for my self-esteem.

• 10:19Speaker 04

  What?

• 10:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know how some people have like emotional support dogs?

• 10:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, my self-esteem is not waiting in lines.

• 10:25Speaker 04

  That doesn't equate to the dog thing.

• 10:28Laci Mosley?

  It does, because it's like for my emotional support.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  You're just not going into lines?

• 10:31Laci Mosley?

  I need to skip the line.

• 10:32Speaker 04

  You cut every line?

• 10:33Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 10:34Speaker 04

  Every single line?

• 10:35Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  You went and said you got a sandwich before you came here, you just walked up?

• 10:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 10:38Speaker 04

  And then people don't go boo, lady, get out of here.

• 10:42Laci Mosley?

  What is a boo gonna do to me?

• 10:43Speaker 04

  It makes you feel bad. Like that text that I sent that person, just gonna have her, I just imagined her receiving that text and sitting there and being like, "I'm such a bad person."

• 10:51Laci Mosley?

  That's not what happened.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  "Ah, I feel so bad, I hurt someone else's feelings."

• 10:56Laci Mosley?

  Can I tell you, as someone who has cut many people off in traffic, and look, not deliberately, you know, I'm a bad driver. I'm getting better, you know, because I care about people on the road and I want everybody to be safe. But if I make a driver mistake and someone pulls up to me and starts flicking me off or cussing me out, I just stare straight ahead. Even if my window's down, I'm like, doo doo doo, thinking hepatitis, like I'm not gonna receive that energy.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  And you don't feel bad ever later?

• 11:19Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  When you do so, oh, man, I'm too moral.

• 11:23Laci Mosley?

  Listen, give that up.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  You should.

• 11:26Laci Mosley?

  It's a scam. It's not even like, who made morals up? I think morals are just doing right by people, and you do right by people, Camille. But if people don't do right by you, you know, like, I don't know, if they have another... I feel like you should have gone back on Craigslist and see if they had another ad up for stealing cards. And then just went to the parking lot again and just took the cards from them and ran.

• 11:44Speaker 04

  Oh, shit. Well, I would have taken blank cards, it'd mean nothing.

• 11:47Laci Mosley?

  It don't matter, it's the principality.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. They can't do the scam because they don't have the cards to exchange.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  Okay. You know what? I'm gonna start being bad.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  That's what I learned today.

• 11:57Laci Mosley?

  That's the motivation for this show.

• 12:00Laci Mosley?

  Well, guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. We'll be right back with what's hot and fraud.

• 12:05Speaker 04

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• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  And we're back, and it's time for What's Hot and Far. This is where we get a listener letter from you guys. I used to say we warn you about what's popping in the streets, and you know, like, we do warn you. But y'all know we get listener letters. Snitch on your friends and family and your enemies at [email protected]. Just make sure the scams are tired, so we don't what? Yes, fuck up your bag. Unless it's your enemy's bag, then fuck up they bag. I'm not against that vengeance. Um, I need a fake name for this person, Kimia. We don't care about gender on this show. Petunia. Petunia, oh, that's beautiful, like a flower. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever seen a petunia. What do they look like?

• 14:43Speaker 04

  Are you asking me what a flower looks like?

• 14:45Laci Mosley?

  You just said petunia off the top of your head, like you knew flowers. No. Who's a botanist? Is that who does flowers? A florist?

• 14:50Speaker 04

  An botanist.

• 14:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 14:51Speaker 04

  They do plants. Um, yeah, I don't know what that flower looks like.

• 14:54Laci Mosley?

  It's cute, though, right?

• 14:55Speaker 04

  Kind of the same.

• 14:56Laci Mosley?

  People used to name their kids petunia. Oh, wow, Judith is really on it. We got a picture of petunias up here.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  See?

• 15:01Laci Mosley?

  Oh, these are all around L.A. This is that little unnamed flower that nobody picks. No.

• 15:06Speaker 04

  What?

• 15:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay, every flower looks like the same flower. Is that rude? No, cuz roses look different than this. Roses give the girls more petals. Sunflowers are the black people's flowers.

• 15:17Speaker 04

  What?

• 15:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cuz they're beautiful and they have a little brown in the middle. And black people like, yellow is our color.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 15:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 15:23Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 15:24Laci Mosley?

  And then like, you know, you got orchids. That's the bad bitch flower that needs a lot of maintenance.

• 15:28Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 15:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I don't even know why people buy orchids. That's a scam. Nobody knows how to take care of them.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  What's the ones that, um, you can pick off and then you make them talk when you squeeze them? Is it like a baby's breath or the monkey flower? Nobody know what I'm talking about?

• 15:39Laci Mosley?

  Monkey flower.

• 15:40Speaker 04

  That's fine. It's okay.

• 15:41Laci Mosley?

  Honeysuckle?

• 15:42Speaker 04

  No, it's not that.

• 15:43Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I don't know. That's the one the birds be fucking with. They be sucking on that one.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  Hone- tastes like honey, I hear.

• 15:49Laci Mosley?

  It ain't never tasted like honey when I saw it.

• 15:51Speaker 04

  You're not a bird.

• 15:53Laci Mosley?

  So they tasting it different?

• 15:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:55Laci Mosley?

  I guess.

• 15:57Laci Mosley?

  It be tasting like pollen to me. Yeah, I've licked on a flower. I was trying to see what was up.

• 16:01Speaker 04

  What?

• 16:02Laci Mosley?

  I wanna know what olden time people were doing. If I was just left in the wilderness, I wouldn't eat, I don't know, you eat flowers and...

• 16:08Speaker 04

  No, you eat like fruits and seeds and berries? You wouldn't just pick up a flower and pop it in your mouth? You telling me if you were in the olden times, you would just peel bark from a tree, eat it, and then lay down in the dirt? Like yum yum yum, this is, I'm surviving? Really?

• 16:22Laci Mosley?

  I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to be on if I'm in the desert or the wilderness. Like, I would die immediately.

• 16:26Speaker 04

  This makes a lot of sense.

• 16:27Laci Mosley?

  If I was just dropped off in the jungle, I'd be, I would just quit. I wouldn't even try.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  You just sit down and be like, well, this is it?

• 16:33Laci Mosley?

  This is it. Time, time to demise. Yeah, you know? So, Petunia says, "Hi, Lacey. Uh, oh, some nice things. Um, I'm gonna skip those, Petunia. You know how we go." So, but thank you, Petunia. "A month or so ago, I was cracking up when you were talking about going to the ER and wishing that you had scammed your way in there in an ambulance." "Obviously, I wasn't laughing because you were in the ER, but because a year ago, I arrived at the ER via ambulance in Chicago." "I was in BAD, in all caps, shape with vertigo."

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 17:10Laci Mosley?

  You said you were in bad shape with all caps. I thought you was gonna say you had a like a gunshot wound or a heart attack. Okay, I've had vertigo on a plane.

• 17:18Speaker 04

  I've never had it. Is it serious?

• 17:20Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it feels serious when it happens.

• 17:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:23Laci Mosley?

  Because your body's like Mr. Krabs meme. Like, everything is spinning and you're like, whoa. And when it happened to me on a plane, it did feel very serious. And also very embarrassing because it's not like an illness like a heart attack or something where people are like, oh, this person's in dire straits. It's just like, this bitch is dizzy, like.

• 17:42Laci Mosley?

  You know, dying from dizziness is very embarrassing. I just remember waking up in my seat and it was like a flight attendant like dabbing like a cold compress on my head or some kind of makeshift shit. And I was just like, huh.

• 17:55Speaker 04

  Wow, that's it. You just get dizzy.

• 17:57Laci Mosley?

  But I did feel very like delicate. Like, I think people who faint are very delicate. Like, I wish that I could faint more. It just feels.

• 18:06Speaker 04

  Delicate or like anemic, right? You just don't have, you're like, blood sugar is low and you're just like.

• 18:11Laci Mosley?

  It could be blood sugar.

• 18:12Speaker 04

  Need to eat more food and lift.

• 18:13Laci Mosley?

  Well, anemia's just like iron, right?

• 18:15Speaker 04

  Um, yes.

• 18:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And then, cause I, I got a touch of the anemia.

• 18:20Speaker 04

  Oh, you got, you've been touched by.

• 18:22Laci Mosley?

  I've got a little touched by anemia.

• 18:23Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 18:24Laci Mosley?

  No, but yeah, you're right. Like, low blood sugar or anemia or things like that. Yeah. I have a best friend who, one time she fainted in Miami and like, it was scary, but it was also very cute. And like, she fainted and it was so like, I felt like I was in a 1930s movie.

• 18:37Speaker 04

  No.

• 18:38Laci Mosley?

  And we were like, get her some water, get her some water. But we were some bougie ass bitches. So somebody brought water over, but it was like a half drank bottle of water. And you're like, no, not that, not that. Y'all got fresh, like, untapped.

• 18:48Speaker 04

  Oh, my goodness.

• 18:50Laci Mosley?

  We wanted her to seal when we give her the water.

• 18:52Speaker 04

  She's fainted, who cares?

• 18:54Laci Mosley?

  Nah, nah, nah. She wouldn't want that.

• 18:55Speaker 04

  No.

• 18:56Laci Mosley?

  She wouldn't. She'd be like, I'd rather die.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Okay. Seems like you and your friends are very similar.

• 19:02Laci Mosley?

  We are. That's why we're friends.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  And then there's me.

• 19:04Laci Mosley?

  We're also friends, so I know what you're saying.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  I don't know what's going on. We'll find similarities somehow today.

• 19:09Laci Mosley?

  Tell me how to swim, y'all.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  I did.

• 19:10Laci Mosley?

  Like, in deep water. And, and she also judged me because when I dive in the deep end, I hold my nose because the water would go up into my brain. And she was like, nah, that's not what you do. You're supposed to just breathe out and hum when you jump in the pool. I'm not a expert.

• 19:22Speaker 04

  Dude, holding your nose makes you look like a lame-o, dude.

• 19:25Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 19:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:26Laci Mosley?

  You see how she bullying me?

• 19:27Speaker 04

  What?

• 19:28Laci Mosley?

  This is crazy.

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Of all the stuff you've said.

• 19:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my god.

• 19:33Laci Mosley?

  So, okay, so sis was, Petunia says she was in bad shape with the vertigo, you know? And if you don't know what vertigo is, like, let me not lie. Judith, can you pull up what vertigo is? Um, but basically, from my experience of having vertigo, everything was just topsy-turvy. Does that make sense? Yeah, doesn't that make people throw up as well? You can get really nauseous and... Yeah, cuz it's like your bearings are gone. Like, and it can happen anywhere. So, the definition of vertigo, which is coming from my head and not Google, is that it's a symptom. Oh. Uh, can we zoom in on my brain? Cuz this is definitely me thinking, but can we zoom in? Cuz I can't read my brain, that is a little far away. Um, okay, so, can we get rid of that tent on my brain? So I can...

• 20:20Laci Mosley?

  You, hold on, y'all, I'm thinking. Do, do, do, do, do, do. Yo, you need help? I'm in your brain. Okay, so, in my brain, vertigo. Okay, so, what vertigo is... Oh, you're really rolodexing your brain right now. It's kind of impressive. You gotta do that sometimes. Your brain will just be giving things up for free all the time. So, it's a, often, okay, so, vertigo is often caused by inner ear problems. Some of the most common causes include, um...

• 20:51Laci Mosley?

  Include what? Um, wh- when you're on a plane and stuff. So, vertigo is a simulation of feeling off balance. If you have like a dizzy spell, or you might feel like you're spiraling, and that the world is spinning. Okay, I was right, cuz I know it. Cuz I lived it. I did, it was like spinning and shit. And, oh, Petunia says, because everything was spinning, see? We just had to read on. We didn't have to do any of that digging into your brain. Uh, but, you know, personal experience, I was vomiting. The EMTs came and got me from work and took me to Northwestern. Not at work you have vertigo. I mean, honestly, the best place to have vertigo, like, leave the job and be like, "Don't clock me out till six."

• 21:34Laci Mosley?

  That's what I would do. So, they got her, or Petunia, and they took Petunia to Northwestern Hospital. They were really mean and yelled at me when I threw up in the ambulance and said I should have warned them. They kept telling me I was having a panic attack, which I wasn't, in parentheses, and telling me to just calm down. Now, not you having some mean-ass gaslighting EMTs like, bitch, why you ain't tell us you was finna throw up? Bitch, this is, this is an ambulance. What do, what do you think I can predict?

• 22:02Speaker 04

  And that cannot be the worst thing they've seen in an ambulance, just somebody throwing up.

• 22:06Laci Mosley?

  Somebody's definitely pooping themselves in an ambulance.

• 22:08Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 22:08Laci Mosley?

  That feels like the spot to do so.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:11Laci Mosley?

  If I'mma void my bowels not on a toilet, it's definitely in an ambulance. This is an emergency.

• 22:14Speaker 04

  That's not the second place I would void my bowels.

• 22:17Laci Mosley?

  It's also not a chill vehicle. It's loud as fuck. They're like, like, come on now, you speeding? You're going very fast.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  You're already dizzy. It's like, they made Petunia throw up.

• 22:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and how y'all gonna yell at her like, now we gotta clean up your vomit out the ambulance? It's an ambulance. What do y'all think happens in here?

• 22:33Speaker 04

  It's in your ambulance budget, come on.

• 22:35Laci Mosley?

  Why you ain't tell us you needed some, some shocks? Hold on. Clear? Like, yes, this is your job.

• 22:39Speaker 04

  It's your job, man. Yeah.

• 22:41Laci Mosley?

  So, when we got to the hospital, they wheeled me in there and just left me in the lobby.

• 22:48Laci Mosley?

  I love the American healthcare system. I can't believe that we do this to people. We do. Look, ambulance ain't nothing but an overpriced Uber with some drugs in it.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, they even get mad at you when you throw up in it.

• 22:58Laci Mosley?

  Clearly.

• 22:59Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 23:00Laci Mosley?

  If I kept my eyes closed, I wasn't as dizzy and stopped vomiting. So, I'm in a crowded ER waiting room with my eyes shut, hoping nobody grabs my purse or a computer bag and desperate to get help. See, that's capitalism. You left, so you had a medical emergency. They called 911.

• 23:15Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:16Laci Mosley?

  They brought you an ambulance, and as you're being carted away on a stretcher, like, give me my purse and my computer bag. I got a deadline tomorrow.

• 23:23Speaker 04

  That's true. Eyes shut, doing all her work from the hospital bed?

• 23:28Laci Mosley?

  No, I know where the keys are. I know quarti. I don't need to see.

• 23:31Speaker 04

  Mavis Beacon taught me typing.

• 23:35Laci Mosley?

  Do they still teach typing in school?

• 23:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know. All I know is I had baby speaking on a CD-ROM teaching me how to do typing.

• 23:41Laci Mosley?

  Bro, they're trying to make us all stenographers, because I remember words per minute was a whole challenge. They'd be like, "How many words per minute can you type?" And I'm like, "Bitch, I don't want carpal tunnel. I don't know." Three, four? Like, thanks to voice to text, no words per minute, okay?

• 23:56Laci Mosley?

  So, she's in the waiting room, Petunia, and is laying on the stretcher with her eyes closed, hoping nobody robs her, clutching her belongings. Petunia says, "I waited for 90 minutes or so, and at some point, I just started yelling, 'Can someone please help me?'" Eventually, they wheeled me over to an intake area with a little curtain around me. "Okay, you got a little privacy. Come on, curtain, ew."

• 24:19Speaker 04

  We like this.

• 24:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they gonna charge you for that curtain, too. Check your medical bill, because they gonna charge you for that curtain. Because everybody else wasn't getting curtains. They was like, "Oh, you want curtains? That's $1,500."

• 24:28Speaker 04

  Oh, jeez.

• 24:29Laci Mosley?

  Then this woman came in, and I thought I was finally gonna get help, but no. She asked me if I had insurance.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 24:37Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that's not how it's supposed to work. They can't ask you if you have insurance beforehand. They're supposed to...

• 24:42Speaker 04

  Just help you.

• 24:45Laci Mosley?

  They're like, "Do you have help money?" Because if you don't have help money, we're gonna have to move you. We definitely gonna take the curtain away. We're wheeling this curtain over to a bitch who got some Kaiser Permanente. Because you, you don't deserve help. Like, what you talking about? Help? You ain't got no money? Mm-mm. Blue Cross? No shield? Let's take the curtain away. I said yes, and she asked me for an ID and my insurance card. That's not how medical help works. You came in a fucking ambulance, and they talking about, "Now, can we see your ID? And what's the last four digits of your social?"

• 25:17Speaker 04

  It's gotta be an emergency. She threw up before she got there. We gotta at least expedite this process. Nobody cares.

• 25:22Laci Mosley?

  This bitch got a Discover card. Put her back. Put her back. We, we know the balance saying high enough for her to pay for this. So she said like, y'all can just get the info later. I'm having vertigo and can't look with my eyes. Makes sense. So the nurse says, I'm just doing my job.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  Are you? Okay.

• 25:42Laci Mosley?

  So I got her the info and immediately started throwing up again, cause duh, you couldn't open your eyes. You have vertigo.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  Goodness.

• 25:50Laci Mosley?

  She was completely unbothered. Of course she was.

• 25:53Speaker 04

  She seen that.

• 25:54Laci Mosley?

  Right. She's like, I'll do this to everybody. If you got a gunshot wound, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll take that out of you. But who's your insurance provider first?

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:02Laci Mosley?

  Hold, no, hold your wound and, and then grab your wallet with your other hand. You got two hands, you can hold, compress it.

• 26:08Speaker 04

  She probably, these nurses have like reached into people's butts who've stuck their wallets up there and taken out those insurance cards. People put stu- weird stuff up their butts, you know?

• 26:16Laci Mosley?

  They do, they do, and they have to go to the hospital. Yeah, so this nurse is evil. Anyways, Patunni says, I eventually got help and was admitted for two nights. The day I was scheduled to leave, HR called me to ask how I was and then connected me onto a call where a bunch of us were laid off?

• 26:34Speaker 04

  Oh God, this story got so much worse.

• 26:37Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God. How you gonna, how you gonna call me? I'm at the hospital.

• 26:42Speaker 04

  Oh my goodness.

• 26:43Laci Mosley?

  Hey, we finally reached your room. Yeah, no, we ain't send no flowers. Um, but, but, but yeah, yeah. How you doing? You dying? You dead? Okay.

• 26:51Speaker 04

  If you're still alive, I've got some news for you.

• 26:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. We was actually hoping you was gonna be dead, so we wasn't gonna have to lay you off. Cause then life would've laid you off and then we wouldn't have had to lay you off.

• 27:04Speaker 04

  You don't have to deal with the guilt of this.

• 27:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but you just, you know.

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Fired.

• 27:12Laci Mosley?

  That's, this is not funny, y'all. This is the country we live in.

• 27:15Speaker 04

  Such a bummer.

• 27:17Laci Mosley?

  This is not okay. It's not. And honestly, if you work a job like this, you're a cog in the wheel. I'm sure whoever called her from HR was like, for real, like, cause my mom works in HR and one of the things she taught me, um, she's like a VP of HR. And one thing she taught me about firing people, cause I've had to do it in my life. You know, we both run our own businesses and shit.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  Uh, oh, yes, I fired someone.

• 27:39Laci Mosley?

  Yep.

• 27:40Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 27:41Laci Mosley?

  It's hard to let people go.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:44Laci Mosley?

  But it's like, and I wait too long. I wait until they've done just like egregious things and I'm like, oh, I'm bleeding. I guess I should fire them. But she was like, when you fire someone who's not good at their job, you're giving them an opportunity to find something that they're passionate about and probably would be better at than what they're doing. Because if they're not good at it and you know, they're harming the system or whatever, they might find something that they're happier with. And I have been fired and was, that started my acting careers. Like the last job I was at, I got fired.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  What was your last job?

• 28:14Laci Mosley?

  Um, I was working at this job and it was working me like a slave. And like, I was only supposed to be part-time, but they somehow tricked me into working 50 hours a week and all this shit and they were super mean to me. Like even when everything was going good, we had just a manager named Josh. I'm gonna say your name, Josh, you bitch. And um, he would just come up to me if everything was good. The food coming out, everybody happy, everybody having a good time. Lacey, I noticed your wagyu beef sales are down. What's up with that? Bitch, I don't fucking live to slang no cow meat for y'all, ho. I'm in here for a fucking check, bitch. Fuck you.

• 28:43Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  He was just a dick.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  I'm so sorry.

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  And so I left there.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  Good.

• 28:48Laci Mosley?

  And then I went to another restaurant, short-term, which was also high-end, but it was privately owned and they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. So I was in the kitchen cooking creme brulees, not my job.

• 28:55Speaker 04

  You were cooking?

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cooking up creme brulees for a birthday celebration, not my job. And then we were understaffed, somebody sat down, some fancy fashion person who was old. And when you get old and fashion, you don't have no power no more because you're not young. So your only power is in being old and having money. So she wrote a letter to the owner or email or something and it got me fired. But because they had never documented that I was consistently seven minutes late, which is the perfect amount of lateness.

• 29:20Speaker 04

  I've heard you say this.

• 29:21Laci Mosley?

  You know, you, listen, you've experienced it. Seven, you're not mad at seven, eight, you're getting a little pissed off, okay? Five, you don't even notice. Seven, it's like, oh, we know she late, but, oh, she here.

• 29:31Speaker 04

  What did you do that seven minutes ago?

• 29:33Laci Mosley?

  Nothing. Sleeping. Oh, for seven minutes. Mmm. I'm never late. You need to try seven minutes of sleep on a snooze. Put your snooze on seven minutes, it be buzzing. Just seven minutes? Ooh, it's just enough. Seems like not enough, like a little tease of sleep. Nah, it's tasty. It's good. It makes you feel like you cheated. It makes you feel like, ooh, yeah. Seven minutes is popping. Yeah, okay, I'll try it, and then I'm gonna call you. You should. Call me, call me afterwards. But so, they didn't nev- they never wrote it down. So, when they fired me because of this rich, fashion, old lady, there was no document proof that I had been a bad employee. So they ended up having to pay me $12,000, and I saved that money and, and just started acting full-time. They paid you $12,000? Yeah, in unemployment. Oh, yeah. Rrrrr. Hrrrr. (laughing)

• 30:18Laci Mosley?

  So, yeah, I, I don't know, how do we get on this tangent? Well, because firing people is not always bad. Yeah, no, so it wasn't bad. But at the same time, I'm not caping for capitalism, okay? Capitalism is Superman. They got the best capes over there. They don't need us. They don't need our help. But, I'm just saying, even though this HR person is e- evil, I understand that they're working for a bigger evil, and they're just doing their job. Damn. So, fair enough.

• 30:44Laci Mosley?

  But, so the HR lady called and said, "Hey, girl, how you doing? Okay, good. You living? Alright, great. Now you living unemployed." Dang. Petunia says, "I guess I was lucky that I had the vertigo attack while still insured versus two days later." Oh, that's good. Mm-hmm. So, maybe that was also a part of it. They were like, "Oh, we gotta pay this insurance bill. We can't keep her unemployed no more." Wow, that would suck if they were like, "Oof, we got the bill. We gotta let Petunia go." Ambulance rides are expensive. They are, Petunia. But getting laid off in the hospital after being taken to the hospital from your office in an ambulance was pretty wild. Yeah, it's fucked up, Petunia. You gotta fistfight the office building, just punch the bricks. I don't know how much damage you can do, but this is fucked up. All is okay now. I'm glad to hear that, Petunia. Good.

• 31:27Laci Mosley?

  I have mild vertigo once in a while, but nothing like before, and I had a new job within a couple weeks. Okay, Petunia, yes. But this is a scam. Petunia, I'm so sorry that this happened to you. I'm sorry that the EMTs were rude as fuck. I'm sorry that the nurse tried to shake you down and do a cavity search for money before they gave you any healthcare. And then you got fired. In the hospital. Hospital. Like, you got your, you hooked up to the machine checking your vitals. It's like, boop, boop, boop. And then you hear them phone call this way. Yeah. The "ee" was literally them calling you being like, "Yeah, you alive, but you no longer alive at this company.

• 32:10Laci Mosley?

  You are dead to us, but glad you're living. Bye." Bye. That's so fucked. Guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. We'll be back with my favorite part of the show, historic hoodwinkings.

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• 34:27Laci Mosley?

  And we are back. And it's time for Historical Hidings. This is where I will regale Kimmy and with the famous Con Caper group of criminals. We don't know yet. Maybe we like them. Maybe we hate them. We'll see. So today, we're talking about something that happened earlier this year. FBI conducted raid on former President Trump's Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago.

• 34:48Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 34:49Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. The golf course slash resort where he buried his first wife.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  Is that? That's what he did there?

• 34:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  It's just so she died and he was like, do it on the golf course?

• 35:03Laci Mosley?

  Ivanka died two days before they were starting depositions.

• 35:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:10Laci Mosley?

  Weirdly.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 35:12Laci Mosley?

  Strangely. And then they were like, let's bury her. Oh, I'm not saying they did.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  You're just saying.

• 35:17Laci Mosley?

  I'm just saying.

• 35:18Speaker 04

  She had strange, strange die.

• 35:19Laci Mosley?

  And then they buried her on the golf course.

• 35:22Speaker 04

  Man, you think there's just some, some, they're hiding like tax papers in her body?

• 35:26Laci Mosley?

  I've heard that. People were saying that. I wouldn't be surprised if they were like, put, put all the government documents in there.

• 35:32Speaker 04

  Inside her.

• 35:33Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 35:33Speaker 04

  And then bury her under par eight. No, par three, hole eight.

• 35:37Laci Mosley?

  Cause then technically it becomes a cemetery and that's a tax write-off.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  Oh, you just need one person buried somewhere to be a cemetery?

• 35:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  My house is a cemetery.

• 35:46Laci Mosley?

  Who's buried at my house?

• 35:47Speaker 04

  Nobody, I just wanted to try that out and see how it went. There's no one buried at my house.

• 35:52Laci Mosley?

  If I have like a pet rabbit and I bury it and give it a tombstone, is that a cemetery?

• 35:56Speaker 04

  It's a pet cemetery, so you get less of a write-off.

• 35:59Laci Mosley?

  Hmm, that's not fair.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 36:01Laci Mosley?

  So, Mar-a-Lago, right? There, they found a number of top secret and highly classified documents that's been extremely publicized, which are still being investigated. But in addition to the documents, authorities are discovering that a woman claiming to be an heiress spent a considerable amount of time at the estate with unknown motives.

• 36:20Speaker 04

  Okay. Just a random heiress. Why is there always some heiress related to a lot of these scams? Like someone just being like, I just have a ton of money. That just makes you.

• 36:30Laci Mosley?

  Well, because I think an heiress is like a great scam because you can be an heiress and be broke because the whole premise of being an heiress is that you're going to inherit money, not that you have it.

• 36:42Speaker 04

  Dang.

• 36:43Laci Mosley?

  So it's like, no, I'm an heiress. So don't fuck with me because one day when someone dies, I will be rich.

• 36:50Speaker 04

  This is way more helpful than your seven minutes thing.

• 36:53Laci Mosley?

  I think both are helpful.

• 36:54Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 36:54Laci Mosley?

  Try the seven minutes thing, okay? It'll change your life. I'm gonna write a book on it. Just seven minutes. Be late seven minutes.

• 37:00Speaker 04

  Can't be a huge book if you're gonna write a book on this.

• 37:04Laci Mosley?

  No one likes a long book.

• 37:05Speaker 04

  You do like a zine on this? It's about it?

• 37:08Laci Mosley?

  It's a post-it note, okay?

• 37:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:11Laci Mosley?

  So, the trip to Mar-a-Lago. Ana de Rothschild. Uh, Rothschild. Uh, pictured right here. She's on the right.

• 37:19Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 37:20Laci Mosley?

  She is a, okay Ana, she cute?

• 37:24Speaker 04

  On the right.

• 37:25Laci Mosley?

  She's got those Balenciaga, they're both wearing Balenciagas, but she wearing them new new Balenciagas. I was actually just looking at those.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  I would not know that. But it's just strange to me when people have like a group or duo photo as their main photo that comes up. It's like, what happens, what happened? What happened to your solos?

• 37:40Laci Mosley?

  I mean, look, that's a dating profile thing for men. Men love to be on dating profiles with photos of a bunch of dudes and I'm like, which one are you? You are telling me, this is just a scam for you guys to know. If you are someone who's attracted to men, cisgendered men, doesn't matter who you are. If you go on a dating profile and a cisgendered man has a photo with a bunch of other men in it as their profile, run, cuz they ugly. Cuz why you got all these men in here trying to distract me from which one you are? Who are you, sir?

• 38:09Speaker 04

  It's to show you have friends and you're a good time?

• 38:12Laci Mosley?

  Your photos should be of you.

• 38:14Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 38:15Laci Mosley?

  Not people who look like you and we can't make you out in a crowd.

• 38:18Speaker 04

  These two ladies look the same.

• 38:19Laci Mosley?

  They look very similar.

• 38:20Speaker 04

  The Rothschilds in their Balenciaga shoes.

• 38:22Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So, the one on the right is, um, Ana de Rothschild. And at first glance, it's like the most stereotypical wealthy international heiress. I guess we're supposed to get that from the Balenciagas? The ones that look like socks?

• 38:36Speaker 04

  That's the only clue I'm seeing here.

• 38:38Laci Mosley?

  I have Balenciagas and I'm not an heiress.

• 38:40Speaker 04

  You could be.

• 38:41Laci Mosley?

  I, I gotta start doing that. I'm an heiress to the Black Fortune. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm just an heiress to the Black Fortune. I'm like, which Black Fortune? Be like...

• 38:48Speaker 04

  That's so vague but so specific at the same time. That's really good.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  The Black Fortune. Y'all don't know about that? Google it and then I'll run away.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  That's good.

• 38:56Laci Mosley?

  Before they do it. So she wore designer clothes, was never seen without a Rolex, come on, Rowley, and drove a hundred seventy thousand dollar Mercedes Benz SUV. So she's giving heiress. Like, she got a little bit of the era already.

• 39:09Speaker 04

  I guess you just need like, three statement pieces, three really expensive things.

• 39:13Laci Mosley?

  I agree with that.

• 39:14Speaker 04

  That's it. And then you just can be an heiress.

• 39:17Laci Mosley?

  You can wear everything, your clothes can be cheap, but you know, you got some good jewelry. You got a good purse, a good shoe. It's giving heiress to me.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  That's good.

• 39:24Laci Mosley?

  Her name first began popping up in public spheres when photos of her mingling with Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham appeared, and other politicians. So, here's her with these nasty old men, and I guess this was popping to some people, like...

• 39:39Speaker 04

  This is nuts. And these guys, I guess it's like me, you don't know when you're being scammed, but these two guys weren't like, what is this young person doing hanging out with us?

• 39:47Laci Mosley?

  Why are they all holding up thumbs up? Like, we all agree to this picture? This is the corniest photo I've ever seen in my life. Like, please put this in the Smithsonian for corny-ass, weird-ass photos.

• 39:58Speaker 04

  I think it's like why people don't know what to do with their hands in a photo, so they're just...

• 40:01Laci Mosley?

  It's giving Ricky Bobby. Like, they're just like, coming up into the frame, and they're like, no, put it in the thumbs up, it's weird, it's weird. This is, I don't know what this picture is telling me.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  That they're a couple buddies on a golf course, and having a good time.

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  Thumbs up, we're on the golf course, having a good time. They're all dressed poorly.

• 40:18Speaker 04

  So bad. The fashions are not there.

• 40:21Laci Mosley?

  No, the fashions are not fashioning. I don't know where they got these, these clothes. I don't know who the cloth maker is, but...

• 40:28Speaker 04

  Typical clothes.

• 40:29Laci Mosley?

  Fight them. Fight the seamstress, seam man, seam them. Whoever, whoever created these looks.

• 40:37Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 40:38Laci Mosley?

  It's a fisticuffs. Like, they look terrible. I would never trust these people with anything.

• 40:42Speaker 04

  No.

• 40:43Laci Mosley?

  At all. Like, if I saw them at the ballet, I'd be like, I'll park my shit myself. Like, no, what are y'all doing?

• 40:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, but you can see her Rolex there, so you've gotta be like, so what's going on?

• 40:52Laci Mosley?

  Yes. She puts it over her face, so you can really see. So the Rothschilds are one of the oldest and wealthiest families in the world. They receive most of their money through banking. The family is so big that they have countless heirs and heiresses all over. So it's a good family to be like, oh, I'm an heiress because how is anybody gonna know? Because there's so many of y'all motherfuckers. It's like being a Wayans. Like, how am I supposed to know which Wayans is the one who's making all the money? There's too many of them.

• 41:17Speaker 04

  That's true. And then when you, what did you say? Makes money through banking? I was like, also vague, but so specific. I'm not gonna ask any more questions. I don't know nothing about no banks.

• 41:24Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's not like you tell me anything specific and I'm gonna be like, yeah, interest rates, home loans.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  Okay, so hang on a second. A scam is either like really, really specific and you're like red flag or super, super vague.

• 41:35Laci Mosley?

  Super vague.

• 41:35Speaker 04

  You're like, yuck, red flag.

• 41:37Laci Mosley?

  We get all our money from banking.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  Ah, geez.

• 41:39Laci Mosley?

  Y'all know how banking works. FDIC, have you heard of it? Yeah, that's my cousin. Like, what?

• 41:44Speaker 04

  Okay, I'm gonna get scammed all over the place because I cannot identify.

• 41:49Laci Mosley?

  So her true name was Ayana Yakisin. A Russian-speaking immigrant from Ukraine, whose father was a truck driver from Illinois.

• 41:58Speaker 04

  Huh.

• 42:00Laci Mosley?

  I mean, sounds good to me.

• 42:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:04Laci Mosley?

  So, Ayana. When she was little, there's like not much known about her life, like when she's young. At the age of 22, she married Sergey Gulovlev, a 38-year-old boat captain living in Miami. So this is Sergey. And look at Sergey. He's giving like, I will give the bitches a fancy lifestyle. He's giving like steak and lobster dinner, like, I got money. Look at me posed next to this car with my horrible fashions, but...

• 42:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:35Laci Mosley?

  It's giving like, I got money and I don't know how to spend it, which is my favorite kind of man. Because I'll teach you by spending it on me. That's how you should spend it.

• 42:42Speaker 04

  That's fair. And this guy looks way too old to be marrying a 22-year-old.

• 42:46Laci Mosley?

  22-year-old, no. This is classic. Leonardo DiCaprio Young.

• 42:51Laci Mosley?

  During their five-year marriage, it's unclear whether they maintained an actual relationship. Though, Mr. Global Vev now claims it was because she needed a green card. So they weren't even in a real marriage, she just needed that card, honey. While in Miami, Ina also worked for a business that specializes in providing pregnant Russian mothers the option to have their babies in the US to gain citizenship.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Oh, that sounds like a mini-scam on the side here.

• 43:16Laci Mosley?

  Right, she just had a side hustle of like going to the clinics and being like, "Oh, did you just get your two-week checkup? Great, do you wanna go to the US and pop that baby out over there?"

• 43:24Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 43:26Laci Mosley?

  I mean...

• 43:27Speaker 04

  That's smart.

• 43:28Laci Mosley?

  In 2014, Ina met Valerie Terensenko, a Florida businessman who was raised in Moscow. He allowed her to live in his Miami condo in exchange for watching his children while he traveled on business.

• 43:43Speaker 04

  Washing his children?

• 43:45Laci Mosley?

  Watching.

• 43:46Speaker 04

  Great.

• 43:46Laci Mosley?

  But also probably washing.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  Probably.

• 43:48Laci Mosley?

  In 2015, Ina became president of the United Hearts of Mercy, a Miami charity dedicated to helping impoverished children. Ina was really working out here in these streets, okay? So Mr. Terensenko happened to have founded a charity of the same name in Canada five years prior. So she's babysitting for this man, and all of a sudden, she's the president of a charity that's similar to the one that he founded five years prior, like, prior to that.

• 44:12Speaker 04

  Oh, it's not the same one, it's just so super similar to...

• 44:15Laci Mosley?

  Yup.

• 44:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:16Laci Mosley?

  However, there was no evidence that either charities did any work for impoverished children, and a certified public accountant hired by the charity has alleged it was actually a source of funds for Russian organized crime.

• 44:27Speaker 04

  Jeez, why would you pick charity to run your bad money through?

• 44:31Laci Mosley?

  Because it's tax-exempt, and like, all you need to run a charity is like a vague-ass name. They were like, "Impoverished children", and everybody was like, "That makes sense, the children are poor", and they got a charity for it.

• 44:42Speaker 04

  I'm so stuck on morals. It just seems so rude to use charity to do this.

• 44:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, and that charity is a big source of crime, like churches. However, there was no evidence that either charities like did any work, right? The charity accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars for a donation campaign before its payment processor, Stripe Incorporated, suspected fraud and halted payments. So they're like, "Oh yeah, the kids are hungry, y'all, we gonna get them food and snacks and whatnot, a- and, um..."

• 45:12Laci Mosley?

  Fruit snacks.

• 45:13Speaker 04

  Fruit snacks. That's kids live off fruit snacks.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  Fruit rollups and all the Capri Suns that they could ever want for. And Stripe was like, hmm, it's looking a little suspect. Many of the donors were suspected of using false emails to trick the processor. After the drive ended, the charity's accountant said that she began to get threatening calls from people who she suspected were from criminal groups demanding their money back.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  So, um, so the criminals were...

• 45:39Laci Mosley?

  They're like, wait a minute, we was giving this money for crime and now, like, what's going on?

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Now they're helping the children with the money?

• 45:45Laci Mosley?

  No, I don't think they ever helped the children. The children never saw a dime.

• 45:48Speaker 04

  So the children didn't see nothing and the crimes were duped?

• 45:51Laci Mosley?

  Yep.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  So the money's going to...

• 45:54Laci Mosley?

  It's currently unclear where the funds went.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  Great. Great.

• 45:58Laci Mosley?

  Ina also became president of Rothschild Media Label, a still active artist management group.

• 46:04Speaker 04

  Maybe they'll sign me. Maybe they'll sign me.

• 46:07Laci Mosley?

  They might. Are you hungry? Do you want to do crime?

• 46:09Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 46:10Laci Mosley?

  And it's an artist management group primarily dedicated to promoting Mr. Chantico's teenage daughter. So we have a photo here.

• 46:18Speaker 04

  That's their website.

• 46:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this is their website for musicians. They're giving musicians, look, that one's holding a mic and he's got a colored beard. They're giving musicians I don't know what is. Look at that guy, he's black with a beanie on. He's an artist.

• 46:31Speaker 04

  I could do it. They could sign me.

• 46:33Laci Mosley?

  You got a beanie?

• 46:34Speaker 04

  I have a beanie.

• 46:34Laci Mosley?

  You already got a chain.

• 46:35Speaker 04

  I have a chain and a beanie. Sign me.

• 46:37Laci Mosley?

  This is where you need to be. So Ina, her stage name was Sophia Rothschild. Not Ina getting into the music business. Ina had a lot of free time. Where are the kids that you're supposed to be babysitting Ina? Because...

• 46:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:49Laci Mosley?

  It's giving you sat them in front of your Gabba Gabba and then you went on to do scam a scam.

• 46:53Speaker 04

  That's perfect. Oh, that's so good, Lacey.

• 46:55Laci Mosley?

  I love that. So additionally, Ina is listed as a president or owner of several more companies, including an entity partially owned by her father, and it's called Sound Trip Beats Incorporated, a non-existent music company.

• 47:09Speaker 04

  Okay, the truck driver father?

• 47:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  Is now into music?

• 47:13Laci Mosley?

  I guess so.

• 47:13Speaker 04

  Okay, let's go.

• 47:14Laci Mosley?

  And look, music is one of the, like, best places to scam because they don't really have no unions, like we do as actors and shit. They just, like, are stealing from people who want to make music.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  I can become a musician.

• 47:25Laci Mosley?

  You could. That would be the, that, you should become an A and R executive.

• 47:28Speaker 04

  Oh, okay, great.

• 47:29Laci Mosley?

  Don't be on the scam side, or the scammy side. You want to be on the scammer's side.

• 47:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 47:33Laci Mosley?

  So, however, a court dispute erupted last year with her former business partner, who in response has since released information about the details of her other business activities. So now she's got people snitching on her.

• 47:42Speaker 04

  That's good.

• 47:43Laci Mosley?

  I think so in this case.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  That's what happens to you, man.

• 47:45Laci Mosley?

  So in a dispute, Ina claims that Mr. Taranenko coerced and forced her into swindling funds for men that she met to support their lifestyles. She was like, "This wasn't my fault. I was just working as a babysitter. I was just trying to give the girls Peppa Pig. And then I got into Peppa Pilfer."

• 48:04Speaker 04

  This is a whole bad, uh, argument for believe women here. We're, it's not great.

• 48:09Laci Mosley?

  Uh, that, listen, everybody don't gotta be a poster child.

• 48:13Speaker 04

  No, but, uh...

• 48:15Laci Mosley?

  I only, they only make minorities have to be the example for their whole class. Because every white man gets to just be a white man. Every school shooter gets to be a lone wolf individual who's random, even though they all look the same.

• 48:25Speaker 04

  Misunderstood.

• 48:25Laci Mosley?

  And you see them all in the Utah airport. I said it. Uh, so...

• 48:30Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 48:31Laci Mosley?

  You ever been to the Utah airport in Salt Lake City?

• 48:33Speaker 04

  I have never and I don't think...

• 48:34Laci Mosley?

  Everybody, everybody looks like they buy firearms and do a manifesto. Very scary. Don't like it there.

• 48:41Speaker 04

  I thought they'd just sing show tunes in our Mormon down there.

• 48:43Laci Mosley?

  No, it's very scary there. I've only been to the airport. I will never step foot into the city.

• 48:48Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 48:49Laci Mosley?

  If you're from Utah, listen to this show. Shout out to y'all. I'll never be there, but I'm happy you listen.

• 48:54Speaker 04

  Let's go on a ski trip.

• 48:55Laci Mosley?

  Nah, the closest y'all will get is hearing my voice right now. I'm not coming back over there. I know where my bread is buttered.

• 49:00Speaker 04

  Listen up, Utah. Lacey's gonna do a show live, coming at you next year.

• 49:04Laci Mosley?

  Uh-uh, now they really gonna pull up.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  There's a huh. I'll be there as well, for no reason.

• 49:09Laci Mosley?

  It's just gonna be Kimmy. It's just gonna be Kimmy. So Mr. Taranenko, the babysitter man, denies this and says that they parted ways over allegations that she abused his daughters.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Oh, jeez.

• 49:21Laci Mosley?

  So he's saying, "I don't know what she's talking about, roping me into scams, but I do know she was pinching my daughters in between television shows and not giving them mac and cheese." I know. So Ina goes east, like Ina goes west. So Ena seemingly first publicly appeared as Anna De Rothschild in 2019 at the Austrian World Summit where she was seen taking photos with rapper Ray J and an Italian car designer Horatio Pagani. According to developer Paul Barton, this is his quote, "We always thought her grandfather had money and that he was an oligarch." And I love that everyone's like, "Yeah, we hung out with her because we assumed she was rich. That's not our fault. We choose our company by who has the most coins." That's right. That makes sense. Yeah, totally. Can't blame us.

• 50:06Laci Mosley?

  What did we do wrong? She said she had money, so we was her friend. That makes sense. Did you see her wrist? Did you see her car? Did you see that Rolex she holds up in her photos? That's why we were her friend and that makes sense. We're also good people. You can buy friends and we do all the time. All the time. So at the same time, his family company paid for her to fly at least three times on private jets to their resort project in the Bahamas. She was slated to sell the Bahamian residential development for $55 million and receive a commission, which that would be a cute ass commission. That's a lot. $55 million home. But the sale ultimately wasn't made. Hmm, curious. Anna continued rubbing elbows with the wealthy businessman until she met Trump. Supporter. Not Trump yet. Oh, wow. You really put that pause in a good spot.

• 50:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Supporter. Elken Adam Kerr, a New York financial services company founder. It was Mr. Adam Kerr who first invited Anna to join him at Mar-a-Lago for a party on May 1st, 2021. Look, racism is bad and a distraction from all of the systematic things that are placed in our government and, you know, in our class systems to oppress marginalized people and to keep them poor so they can continue to be slaves for oligarchs and billionaires. However... Where is this going? I think I know. No, it's not even a however. It's just that Mar-a-Lago is like a place where you're gonna see a lot of

• 51:35Laci Mosley?

  rich, powerful people who are like the ugliest, corniest, like-

• 51:39Speaker 04

  Thumbs up, guys.

• 51:40Laci Mosley?

  grossest people you've ever met. Like, do you wanna party with a bunch of just nasty-ass uggos with no taste? No fashion sense?

• 51:47Speaker 04

  It's like the food can't be good at this party.

• 51:50Laci Mosley?

  Hell, no!

• 51:50Speaker 04

  No one looks hot.

• 51:51Laci Mosley?

  No!

• 51:52Speaker 04

  The music is weird, if there's any. It's probably silent.

• 51:55Laci Mosley?

  It's all chicken satay.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:57Laci Mosley?

  And fucking the worst music you've ever heard, the worst fashions, the worst faces, you know? So, Mar-a-Lago is the residence of Donald Trump, right? A private, members-only club and event venue.

• 52:11Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:12Laci Mosley?

  By members-only, they mean you gotta be ugly and rich to go there.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  Slash cemetery.

• 52:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, slash cemetery. So, the next day, she was photographed on the golf course for Trump's $25,000-per-person golf fundraiser to raise money for the midterm elections.

• 52:27Speaker 04

  That can't be allowed, uh, it's America.

• 52:30Laci Mosley?

  Right? In one photo, she's pictured standing next to both Donald Trump and Senator Lindsey Graham, and we saw that photo, and they all look corny and very, very ugly. I mean, honestly, in today's age, you can reach so many people through social media. I don't even know why we allow politicians to raise money for campaigns. We know you're just getting sponsored like you're a fucking NASCAR driver-

• 52:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:49Laci Mosley?

  -for fucking crime, for the fucking NRA, and for lobbyists and shit. Like, bitch, you should have to run for office on Twitter. That's it.

• 52:56Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 52:56Laci Mosley?

  Y'all retweet if y'all want me to be president.

• 52:58Speaker 04

  Oh, shoot, I was just gonna say, wouldn't you just be president if we all had to do this on Twitter? We'd just have to live in Lacey's world?

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  No, I wouldn't run for president.

• 53:06Speaker 04

  Okay, that's good.

• 53:07Laci Mosley?

  It's a very ghetto job.

• 53:08Speaker 04

  That's, yeah, it sounds awful.

• 53:09Laci Mosley?

  I don't want that.

• 53:09Speaker 04

  It also is not a real job, right?

• 53:11Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 53:11Speaker 04

  You're just like a figurehead.

• 53:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes, a figurehead for the police of the world.

• 53:14Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 53:15Laci Mosley?

  No, thank you.

• 53:15Speaker 04

  You're just the biggest cop.

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  I don't want to do war crimes.

• 53:17Speaker 04

  No.

• 53:18Laci Mosley?

  Your whole job is war crimes.

• 53:19Speaker 04

  They give you like a button that you push. It's just a big war crimes button, and then a bunch of war codes.

• 53:25Laci Mosley?

  Like, and also, war is, like, look, why have we not rounded up all the men and, and just like, put them in a little cage till we can see what we can do about them? Because war is their thing.

• 53:33Speaker 04

  Men in general?

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  It's their thing. Yeah, and put all the men in a cage. Let's go. It's their thing. They love to go to war. Like, I don't wanna go to wars. For what? I can't imagine being in a war. And look, a lot of people get in the military because they have social, economical circumstances that, you know, they can get free education. They can get, you know, healthcare. They can provide a life for their families that they otherwise wouldn't be able to. And that's the scam of it all. Cause what is it? Like, we just gonna go fight everybody to the death? For what? For what? For land we'll never own because you can't own anything? Because when you die, it's not yours anymore? Very ghetto. Money's fake. It's all fake. Extremely ghetto and dumb. But, you know, here we are. So, she returned with several guests back to Mar-a-Lago that night. Oh, okay. Look, she was a cutie for their standards.

• 54:18Laci Mosley?

  I mean, if you're at a boring party and... With a bunch of ugly, ugly people. Old. Inside and out. They just ugly. She's like, fine. What, like a Mar-a-Lago eight?

• 54:30Laci Mosley?

  Right?

• 54:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she's definitely giving hole in one. Uh, so, she returned with several guests, right? She's got a lot of people. She's like, hey, we coming back to Mar-a-Lago. Several days later, Anna was invited to attend a fundraiser for Eric Gritton's, I don't care about saying his name correctly, at a nearby mansion also owned by Donald Trump. Eric Greedy is a former mayor of Missouri who resigned in disgrace after 2018 allegations of sexual misconduct. And look at him here posing with a gun. What a fucking loser. People lose, if you posing with guns, you're just weirdo. Like, what is this photo? Like, what is this? Trying to be cool, posing with your gun. Oh, you're so cool with your murder weapon, you fucking weirdo. Yeah, it's like you don't have a personality if you're posing with your gun.

• 55:15Laci Mosley?

  No. It's like, y'all, y'all wouldn't think I was cute without the gun. So let me just hold the gun up and then maybe somebody gonna think I'm cute. He would be cute without his gun. I'm not gonna give him that. You know what? Okay, fine. I'm not gonna give him that. That's fine. Me, neither. What, I'll go with a gun.

• 55:32Laci Mosley?

  So despite Anna's attendance at these events, her real identity was not known until March of 2022. So this is very recent. So getting caught. A Mar-a-Lago guest said several other guests fawned all over her because of the Rothschild mystique. They never probed, instead tiptoed around her with kid gloves. Cause they're like, oh, you're famous and you're cute and you got the Rolex and you look the part like- No one's gonna ask you too many questions. No. So Dean Lawrence, a Florida music creative director, met several Trump insiders at a Mar-a-Lago dinner one night. Later in the night, the convention turned to Anna and Mr. Lawrence recognized Anna as Ina, whom he had worked with years ago prior at her music company. Uh oh. Said, bitch, don't you own that fake music company that don't do music?

• 56:16Laci Mosley?

  And once did your name a different name before? No, you was just pronouncing it wrong. It's not Ina, it's Anna. Close enough. Right. I love that she didn't stray too far from the original name. You can't. It's smart enough. It's smart. So it also does not appear that the Secret Service or any of Mar-a-Lago's additional security conducted any sort of background check on Anna De Rothschild before her visit to the former president's residence. Of course they didn't. They're keeping fucking US classified documents that he just declassified in his brain over there. They're not keeping anything secure. That's kinda good, and I hope they don't because then anyone can slip in there and cause chaos over there. And then chaos is needed, even though that's all they do. That's right. So even a preliminary Google search would have brought up the very large, old,

• 56:58Laci Mosley?

  and public family tree of the Rothschilds, which does not show any Anna born in 1988. We still running off family trees to factor in some stuff? It's just, you know, let me pull up your family tree. They didn't shake a branch, they didn't check a leaf. They did not look at all. This tree has been untouched. They said Arbor Day, who? Arbor's where? They're not looking. Also, like, come on, let's not act like the Republican Party doing any research. That's not their brand. They just make shit up as they go. And really bad graphics. Have you seen all of their like- Terrible graphics. Posts have such bad art design. Are y'all still using clip art? Like, y'all still got the paperclip helping y'all out? Talk about this is how we gonna make misinformation today. That paperclip is hot though, right? We'll move on. We'll move on.

• 57:44Laci Mosley?

  It's a paperclip with eyes, Kimmy, and what is sexy about it?

• 57:47Speaker 04

  He helps you with your work in school.

• 57:50Laci Mosley?

  He's so hard.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  You were talking about the, um, Sam person.

• 57:55Laci Mosley?

  He's so hard and buff, the paperclip.

• 57:56Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 57:57Laci Mosley?

  He, he does have a lot of information.

• 57:58Speaker 04

  Someone's gonna agree with me.

• 58:01Laci Mosley?

  Shout out to y'all, be able to agree with me. Were you turned on by the paperclip?

• 58:06Speaker 04

  Let me know.

• 58:07Laci Mosley?

  Kimmy, you had a very sheltered childhood. If the paperclip was the sex icon of your childhood, and I love that. So, now that Ina is claiming that all the driver's licenses generated with the Rothschild name in her photo were fabricated by Mr. Terrence Zinko. She's like, "Oh, I didn't make anything, like, it was my old babysitter father man." And she says, "She, I don't know nothing about Anna, never met her. That was all the babysitter father man, and then I just used the IDs because..."

• 58:35Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, now you're in a hole.

• 58:37Laci Mosley?

  She just runs away.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  Yikes.

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  She just ran away mid-sentence, but it never made sense. So, it's been confirmed that she visited the estate enough times to be easily recognized on sight by a number of guests. It's speculated that her primary goal was to collect business investors and become close to the Trump family for their money.

• 58:55Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 58:55Laci Mosley?

  Which is interesting because, like, the stingiest family.

• 58:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:00Laci Mosley?

  With the least known about their money, or if they even really have it, is the Trump family. If I'm gonna rob somebody, it's definitely not the Trumps, because I feel like they're not very generous with their coins.

• 59:08Speaker 04

  I feel like maybe we know that now, but I remember, my family and I, we would watch The Apprentice, and my dad would sit there and be like, "That guy knows money." And we knew nothing. It was just like, no, he wasn't showing us any tips or anything about money. He was just exuding vague money, so anyone looking at him is like, "That guy knows money", I guess.

• 59:26Laci Mosley?

  He did have that scam, because everything was always gold, trim. And you know what? I remember in Real Housewives, Nene looks being like, "I'm cashing a Trump check." That did not age well.

• 59:36Speaker 04

  No.

• 59:36Laci Mosley?

  Did not age well. But you're right, at the time, everybody was like, "Trump, money, gold." However, it's not known yet if she gained access to any of the top-secret files that the FBI recently recovered from the estate, nor if she held any ulterior motive, or if she maintains dealings with her former organized Russian crime partners. Curious that Russia, Russia could be involved in this.

• 59:56Speaker 04

  Uh-oh.

• 59:56Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, they weren't locking anything up. As far as we know, Trump was just touring people around like, "And these are the, these are the documents, these are the government documents."

• 1:00:04Speaker 04

  He didn't want them to be seen.

• 1:00:05Laci Mosley?

  You guys wanna take a picture with the nuclear codes?

• 1:00:07Speaker 04

  You just wanna touch it?

• 1:00:07Laci Mosley?

  It's only a hundred dollars a photo.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  Oh, you can take it home and bring it back tomorrow like the library. If you want.

• 1:00:12Laci Mosley?

  You wanna check out the nuclear clothes for two weeks? You just gotta bring it back with a signature.

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:00:18Laci Mosley?

  This is how we know this man doesn't have money.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:00:20Laci Mosley?

  He's trying to sell anything. Three years before the investigation, two different women from China, one of them tolling two passports and a thumb drive with malicious software, were arrested in separate instances after they entered the club grounds while Trump was president. So they came in.

• 1:00:36Speaker 04

  This is just in Mar-a-Lago? They just popped right in there?

• 1:00:39Laci Mosley?

  I mean, what is Mar-a-Lago but a place for crime? When Trump was president, he would show up and do club appearances in Mar-a-Lago. If you were having a wedding, he'd be like, "Hey, I'm here for your wedding and President Donald Trump. Would you like a picture with me? It'll be $500." Like, you're like, "Um, what's happening?" So, Ina continues to be at the center of the FBI investigation and major crimes unit investigation in Quebec related to her financial activities. Cause duh, like Ina, Anna, like she was doing crime all over the place. I mean, I don't know how I feel about Ina, cause she was trying to scam, like the ultimate scammers, which is the Trumps.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 1:01:11Laci Mosley?

  So I feel like, was she harming anybody by scamming them?

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  No, I mean, and I feel like anytime you're just scamming rich people, among rich people, you're like, it's like, fine.

• 1:01:21Laci Mosley?

  Especially the nastiest of rich people. Like, let's not act like these motherfuckers are good, inside and out. That's why their whole soul is on their face and their necks and their hands.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:01:29Laci Mosley?

  They're nasty.

• 1:01:30Speaker 04

  They're like oogie boogie if you turn them inside out, they're made of bugs. You know?

• 1:01:34Laci Mosley?

  Oogie boogie and made of bugs. Truly made of bugs. Honestly, let's not even insult bugs like that. They be doing stuff for the ecosystem. Let's not.

• 1:01:41Speaker 04

  You're so right.

• 1:01:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we not even gonna insult bugs like that by putting them in the same category as 45. Yeah, the bug that nobody likes, a little vampire.

• 1:01:49Speaker 04

  Did you know mosquito, we could get rid of all mosquitoes and everything in the ecosystem would just be fine?

• 1:01:54Laci Mosley?

  Damn, we should really murder them.

• 1:01:56Speaker 04

  There's no way to murder all of them. We'd probably get some bees in the crossfire and that would be bad.

• 1:02:00Laci Mosley?

  Oh yeah, no, the bees actually be out here making tasty treats and shit. Like, we don't need to fuck with the bees.

• 1:02:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:05Laci Mosley?

  They've been fucked with enough. But yes, I would like to get rid of mosquitoes. I have a few of their, like, uh, yeah, remnants on my body right now that are still itching. I think they're getting stronger. Is there a super mosquito or something?

• 1:02:16Speaker 04

  No, they are stronger now. They can like bite you five times before you detect them. They like the- The bumps come up like a couple of minutes later. It's like a delayed reaction to their venom. So they could like get you more before you start itching.

• 1:02:28Laci Mosley?

  Cause I remember, you know, you would feel like a little bite and you slap them or whatever. Now I have two bites on both of my arms that have been persisting for weeks now. Where I'm like, how many times did y'all suck my shit up?

• 1:02:39Speaker 04

  They have evolved and we don't need them to.

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  Vampire flies.

• 1:02:43Speaker 04

  Yes, that's kinda cool though. I like vampires.

• 1:02:48Laci Mosley?

  So guys, it's time for the saddest part of the show. The end, where I have to let Kimia go, but first scammer of the week. So this is a segment where we highlight a charlatan who may be worthy or not of our praise. And we're just gonna see. Uh, this week, we're talking about a manga artist who has been scammed out of seventy-five million yen, approximately five hundred thousand dollars by a scammer who claimed that he was Mark Ruffalo.

• 1:03:15Speaker 04

  Wait, huh?

• 1:03:16Laci Mosley?

  Uh, no, this is a lot of jumps. Why y'all got Mark Ruffalo in here?

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  Hang on, that sounded like a Mad Lib, the thing you just read. I cannot believe this.

• 1:03:25Laci Mosley?

  It's a Cards Against Humanity. You're just like slapped out a bunch of shit. A manga artist scammed out of seventy-five million yen.

• 1:03:32Speaker 04

  By?

• 1:03:32Laci Mosley?

  By someone, yeah, who said they were Mark Ruffalo, who as far as I know was a stand-up guy.

• 1:03:38Speaker 04

  What? Oh, yeah. I thought you meant a stand-up comedian. I was like, no, man, that's Hulk. And Hulk's not funny.

• 1:03:45Laci Mosley?

  Hulk be funnier. Give us comedy Hulk. Why all the anger? So Chick Eye A Day is a seventy-four-year-old manga artist, most recently known for her book Poison Love. So this is Chick Eye. Oh, she looks cute. And look at her book.

• 1:04:03Speaker 04

  Look at that.

• 1:04:03Laci Mosley?

  She was first approached in twenty-eighteen on Facebook by a man claiming to be Mark Ruffalo. Facebook, sweetie.

• 1:04:09Speaker 04

  Not good. No one's on there anymore.

• 1:04:11Laci Mosley?

  And definitely no celebrities. If you get approached by a celebrity on Facebook, just know it's fake.

• 1:04:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:16Laci Mosley?

  It's fake book, okay?

• 1:04:18Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:04:19Laci Mosley?

  Facebook is for conspiracy theories, Republican propaganda.

• 1:04:24Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:04:24Laci Mosley?

  And just like the worst quotes on the ugliest sunset backgrounds that your mom will send to you as inspiration. That is all Facebook is for. So she was approached in twenty-eighteen on Facebook, right? By this guy who's like, I'm Mark Ruffalo and I'm on Facebook, cause you know that makes sense. She says, he said, "He respected my work and he said that I, this old lady, am beautiful." His words gripped my heart.

• 1:04:50Speaker 04

  This makes me sad.

• 1:04:51Laci Mosley?

  I know. So Chike was in abusive marriage in her 30s and had not remarried after her divorce. During the first few months of their dating, the scammer used deep fake technology to look like Mark Ruffalo during video calls.

• 1:05:05Speaker 04

  Do you think this woman knew who Mark Ruffalo was?

• 1:05:08Laci Mosley?

  She probably had Google him and like, Mark Ruffalo looks like every other white man who is a white man.

• 1:05:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true, okay.

• 1:05:14Laci Mosley?

  You know, so, I'm not, and he was deep faking video calls, so this is a deeper level scam because normally...

• 1:05:22Speaker 04

  It's probably costing money to do that scam.

• 1:05:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and normally like if you send Facebook email or Facebook emails, I don't even know how to send messages on Facebook. But you know, like, if you correspond in a medium where you don't show your face, like, that seems more scammy to me. But if he's getting on FaceTime with like the fake Mark Ruffalo face, I, uh, this is, this is bad. So that was enough to convince Chike and the couple unofficially married in September the same year. So y'all married via FaceTime?

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  This has gone too far. Fine, fake date a celebrity on Facebook, but once they say, "We're getting married," you go, "Hang on."

• 1:06:00Laci Mosley?

  So he was in the chapel in Las Vegas and he was like, "All right, call me right now."

• 1:06:05Speaker 04

  He just wheeled in a tablet. Then Elvis married you too.

• 1:06:10Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, Chike, I feel bad for you, sis. Not long after, her new husband asked her for money to the point where she sold her possessions, including original artwork, delayed paying her assistant, fell behind on her bills, and was even forced to use her older son's savings to help her lover. Now, Chike, I was on your side at first. Now, whoever your assistant was is like, "Hey, Chike, the check's not clear for this new manga book."

• 1:06:38Laci Mosley?

  The printer said the ink ain't inking and um we we we really need our money and Chigae was like, look, I gotta help Mark Ruffalo cuz Shonda will be poor. My husband. Them Hulk, them Hulk movies ain't hulking like they used to. He said he needs my help. Mark Ruffalo said every time he rip a shirt in the Hulk movie, they make it pay for it, so gotta give him some coins. What? Chigae, no. Oh, but they were married on FaceTime. I I feel bad for the son too cuz not you're using my savings. Yeah. No, she ultimately sent most of her sponsorship contract with Gucci worth thirty-five million yen at the time. She was sponsored by Gucci for her manga? She was a bad bitch. That's, I mean, yeah, that's good.

• 1:07:23Laci Mosley?

  I mean, Gucci got a partnership with Adidas, why not manga? Why, right, that's my next thought. Don't kill me. Manga manga. Manga manga. Either one, y'all know what we talking about. So it took close to four years, but with the help of her daughter, Chigae eventually broke the cycle and ended the relationship. Damn, well, took you long enough. Four years is too long, Chigae, but I understand you was, you were in a bad situation and this person was probably being very doting and loving on you. They do, and you feel special if you think Mark Ruffalo, you know.

• 1:07:50Laci Mosley?

  Likes your romance comics. Yeah. You see the cover of that thing? It looked really like, they get, they bone in those mangas. Oh, yeah. Look at this thing. It's giving horny. It's very horny. Yeah, but I'm also like, bro, if, here's the thing I don't understand about celebrities, like people cosplaying celebrities and saying like, oh, okay, I need money. If you're famous and rich, why the fuck do you need money from me? Like, that was my first question. That should be your first question is why do, anybody who asks you for money, your first question to yourself before you respond should be, why do you need money from me? Yes. Yes. And why can't you go get your own money? That's right. And even if it's a valid answer, you don't gotta give them the money. No.

• 1:08:33Laci Mosley?

  If people ask you for money and you don't enthusiastically like. Feel immediately like, oh, I should give them money. I have plenty of money. Money is a tool. I'll share it. If you have to think for a second, the answer is no. Your body is telling you no.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  That's right. If anyone asks you anything, set a timer for seven minutes and just stand there in front of them. Just stand there for seven minutes.

• 1:08:51Laci Mosley?

  Don't speak. Just literally turn it on like a kitchen timer and just sit there. No response.

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 1:08:57Laci Mosley?

  Just blinking.

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  And then you'll figure it out.

• 1:08:58Laci Mosley?

  You'll figure it out.

• 1:08:59Speaker 04

  And you can add that to another chapter in your book, Lacey.

• 1:09:02Laci Mosley?

  Okay, see, now we got more than a posting note. Love this for us. Chikai recently published both a novel and a manga based on her experience. She says, "It was such a stupid experience, but I hope people can take it as a lesson. I apologize to my friends, acquaintances, who lent me money while I, you know, refused to listen to them. And I swear I will continue to draw manga until I die to pay them back." Now, Chikai, oh, now, first of all, I guess you did, you said friends and acquaintances. What about your son? That doesn't include your son. Is your, like, are you saying your son the homie? Because you took his savings.

• 1:09:32Speaker 04

  Well, I don't know. I think it's like a similar culture to Persians where it's like your children are, have to deal with all of your bullshit. You gotta, we gotta take care of our parents until we die.

• 1:09:40Laci Mosley?

  But you're not gonna apologize to them?

• 1:09:41Speaker 04

  I don't think that that's built into, um, at least Persian culture. There's not a lot of apologizing, apologizing up or down.

• 1:09:48Laci Mosley?

  Understood.

• 1:09:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:50Laci Mosley?

  As a, as a fellow minority. However, eh, if you want to apologize to the friends and acquaintances, where does the sun fall in? Is he a friend or an acquaintance?

• 1:09:57Speaker 04

  No, just family and, and you can do whatever the heck you want to your family. That's as far as I understand.

• 1:10:05Laci Mosley?

  Chikai, eh, Chikai. I've been saying Chikai the whole time, but Chikai, it's Chikai. Um, Chikai. I don't, eh, Chikai.

• 1:10:16Speaker 04

  You got words?

• 1:10:17Laci Mosley?

  You really fumbled the bag here, sis.

• 1:10:18Speaker 04

  I will read your manga, though. Uh, this new one.

• 1:10:21Laci Mosley?

  Your manga looks fire. And, and whatever we have to do to support Chikai's manga so she can pay everybody back for Fake Mark Ruffalo.

• 1:10:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:28Laci Mosley?

  And Fake Mark Ruffalo, you're a bad dude or person. We don't know how you identify or who you are. Clearly, you were never found out and you just got to make a lot of money on a sweet older woman who...

• 1:10:41Laci Mosley?

  I mean, at least you waited till y'all got fake married.

• 1:10:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, sure. That's, that's moral.

• 1:10:49Laci Mosley?

  All right, guys. As always, Kimmy, we ask our guests on the show, where would you like to be found? Any socials, anything you want people to watch?

• 1:10:56Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Uh, @childclown on Instagram and, uh, watch Reboot on Hulu.

• 1:11:01Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I was at the premiere of Reboot. So, you're there. It's a very fun show on Hulu. Love you, Kimmy. I love Rachel Bloom. Karabas in it as well. Check it out. It's really, really fun. It's really good. Um, as always, guys, [email protected], send it to your friends, your family, and your sons, who you never have to apologize to. Um, if you want to find all the photos, they'll be on Scam Goddess Pod. And if you want to find me, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy on all platforms. Congregation, stay manga.

• 1:11:34Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacy Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Garkbo, engineered by Ryan Connor and Abby Aguilar. Our researcher is Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

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