Alex Jones: Epstein Files, Bondi Hearing + El Paso Shutdown | PBD #737

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Alex Jones to discuss the Epstein files and alleged intelligence ties, Pam Bondi’s House Judiciary hearing clash with Thomas Massie, Trump’s options and turnover comparisons tied to the Epstein fallout, the El Paso airport shutdown, and the ongoing InfoWars legal battle. ----- Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH ALEX JONES: https://bit.ly/4reJMnf Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one of one.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  My son's right there.

• 0:19Speaker 02

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you know, today's podcast is a special one because never in the history of my life have I started a podcast with taking a shot of olive oil, but we did that today together.

• 0:37Speaker 03

  We both showed up, not even know, we both have a little bit of laryngitis. And I was like, that's crazy. I just flew in from Texas yesterday and boom, I said Frank Snobert said drink olive oil. We took a small shot and knocked about halfway out.

• 0:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it actually worked. It actually worked, but you know, I want to start off with the podcast because you and I, the first time we did the podcast was, I want to say nine, 10, 2018. Came to Austin, that legendary conversation. I want to show a clip of the most insightful moment of our podcast, if you don't mind.

• 1:05Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You shared it with me yesterday. I think the audience has to see this, Rob. I texted it to you. If you can pull it up, you saved it a minute.

• 1:12Speaker 03

  And my pot belly.

• 1:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, listen, this, Rob, I literally texted it to you right before we went live and you pulled it up. There you go. Okay, so this is, it doesn't get more insightful than this. Can you play it up, Rob? Go back, watch this, folks.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  Patriot, patriot, vampire, nationalist, mental retardant, eugenicist, a scared man. Really?

• 1:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:42Speaker 03

  Retardant, traitor, vampire, next level, Moses.

• 1:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Patriot, patriot. We had a great conversation. You had your, you can bring it here. We had a great conversation. That was, I think, a week or two, right after you were taken out from all the apps. And obviously, a lot's changed ever since. Where you're at now, what you got going on. We got a lot of stories to talk about. We got the Epstein stuff that's going on. We got the Pam Bondi stuff that's going on tied to the Epstein. El Paso, Kurt Cobain, Tyler Robinson, you know, furry roommate. I don't know if you saw the story that just came out with that. But we got so many directions to go on with to talk about. Let's start off with Epstein is what I want to write, get right into. So your open, you know, unfiltered analysis of what you think happened yesterday with Pam Bondi's hearing?

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Bondi is not even a bad person, but we knew when she first got in, she's a talking head. There's so much complexity going on in the DOJ. That's why she came out at first and said, oh, yeah, we have all these millions of files and hundreds of kids getting raped and it's Epstein doing it. And then later we learn she was told that. And then she has to reverse it and say, well, actually, that's not what it is. It was a bunch of child porn. So, so we don't really know the truth about all that. Because there, there's so much over the almost 20 years of investigations about Epstein. It's been slurped up. And also, last year, they had a, or the last two years, a hotline where anybody could just call in to the FBI or just send in paperwork and any of that gets thrown in there. So that's why Trump is in there about a million times, but I, I'm also not an apologist for her.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  The DOJ has handled this totally horribly. And they've taken something where it's the Democrats, they're known for sexualizing children. Drag me story time, all of it. It's, it's the Democrats, you know, in California lowering the age of consent. It's, you know, to 12 year olds. And now it's only a misdemeanor, two days in jail if you rape a kid down to 12. I mean, literally. And somehow they-

• 3:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really the long-

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Absolutely, absolutely. And now they've somehow turned it around where-

• 3:48Speaker 03

  The Republican Party is the pedophile protection party. When it's, when it's the Democrats that are 99% in the Epstein files, actually doing stuff to kids. And, and then the media focuses on Lutnik, who I do think was BSing how much he knew Epstein. It's definitely financial. But, okay, fine, he should resign over being caught lying. But let's go after the people that are Democrats that are implicated by witnesses raping young girls at the island, at Zora Ranch, at the New York facility, and in Paris. Somehow, the Democrats have turned this all the way around. And, and conservatives are demanding, yeah, Trump, you're covering it up, release it all. And, and that needs to be looked at, but we need to have the main focus beyond the admitted

• 4:33Speaker 03

  stuff that's in all of this. Bill Gates, all of it, the Democrats, the leftist, all these top billionaires that have hated Trump. This is cut and dry, but, but somehow, it's all been turned around against Trump. And a lot of that's because of the mishandling of Trump comment saying it's all a hoax. And then Roger Stone went and talked to him and said, no, sir, you mean the stuff about you being involved is a hoax? Yeah, that's what I meant. But still, a few days ago, Pam Bondi said, we're moving on at the White House. Well, the rest of us aren't moving on. And so, they are implicating themselves, even though I've researched step one side down the other, and there's very little bad stuff Republicans are in there doing. Epstein was mainly a Democrat leftist system. That's why he's allied with all those leftist politicians in Europe that are having to resign in the UK and, and, and, and. Yep. You're a prophet, a proper.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  So, so I'm just calling like it is. If I find something with Republicans, or if I find something that they're doing, I'll go after them. Uh, but so far, we found almost nothing, except for the old Republican Party, where Epstein originally got launched from, then he became an operative of the Democrats. And if you want, I could do some of the background history on that, why I was the first to report on Epstein 18 years ago. That's good. Sorry about this, folks. Maybe more olive oil, we got it. So, um.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  I've been on air 32 years and I was on local radio that I got syndicated and there weren't any other shows like mine really that were on commercial radio. They were on shortwave and like little, little conferences and books and they were great people. And so I got to interview Ted Gunderson, who was high level FBI retired, like he was tapped into the director, but he was too conservative, so he, he didn't get it when Hoover died. And I interviewed all these other top experts like John DeCamp, that exposed the Franklin cover up and, and the Republican Party, the blue blood Republican Party, running kids, the same stuff for blackmail out of Omaha, Nebraska and out of New York and out of Penn State and, and a bunch of other places. And that was cut and dried. They, they caught

• 6:34Speaker 03

  him, they went to jail, but it, it then got shut down and a bunch of people involved in the pedophile rings all magically died. So I knew John DeCamp, interviewed him many times, Ted Gunderson many times. And so they told me all of this. Kathy O'Brien, which has now been totally vindicated, she had been an MKUltra mind control program that was attached to this and a lot of that's been declassified. And so I knew about all this and heard about all this from them. And so I understood that, then it also came out in 1990, 1990, 1989, all front page, Washington Times, I've seen you cover it, underage call boys, midnight visits White House. And so you have to understand that

• 7:16Speaker 03

  George Herbert Walker Bush had been the CIA director, youngest ever. Never been in the CIA, they said when they put him in there in the seventies, not true. He was basically researching, it was even in the documents, running the JFK assassination operation as the man on the ground in 63. So that was his little reward. But later he's, he's the head of the CIA and, and then, and then he's the head of, of the country. And he brings in Wes Lexler, Lexler, and he is a Victoria's Secret, all of that. He is the handler of Epstein, who also works with Bill Barr, who had been the CIA liaison in Iran contra even at his young age. He ran Iran contra for George Herbert Walker Bush in a compartmentalized program under Reagan that Reagan didn't know about and was a big

• 8:01Speaker 03

  scandal over that. So then Barr gets promoted to be Attorney General and then, and then he's brought back by Trump later. That, that, so he's, he's, thank you. He's been Attorney General twice. And now, Mike Binns exposed a bunch of this. That wasn't part of the Epstein files, but knowing what to look for now in the millions and millions of public files. It was Bill Barr, George Herbert Walker Bush, the Les Wexner and all of them in the early 90s that set up a CIA airline like Air America 2.0 or Evergreen Transportation in Ohio. They used for the first funding of that, the Somali conflict, and they bring in the first 30,000 Somalis into Ohio. Okay? This is what year?

• 8:46Speaker 03

  This is 1991. And this is all public. And a lot of this research, I had a lot of this research, but then I've watched like 10 hours of Mike Binns, just like six hour, four hour programs, just this document, that document, totally mapping it. So you have the CIA with Bill Barr, bringing in Epstein to be the, basically the front man for the airline. So he's already by 1991, he is already the head of the cutout for major CIA operations. Now, why'd they pick him? Bill Barr's father was like number five in OSS in World War II. Then he was like number three in CIA. This is all public. Then he runs an all-girls school in New York that Epstein has hired at like 26 years old

• 9:28Speaker 03

  to come in and, boy, suddenly becomes like the deputy principal over these girls. Donald Barr then writes a book called Space Relations. Strangest book. About humans working with aliens to kidnap children in sex slavery on a faraway planet. So, very nice person. The point is, is that they are, so it's Bill Barr, known CIA, his dad, known CIA, Herbert Walker Bush, known CIA. They use the cutout first money, claiming it's for Somali refugees, and they get a couple billion dollars to set up hundreds of aircraft, some of them, you know, like passenger jets. They set all this up, and they're using it for money laundering, drug trafficking.

• 10:10Speaker 03

  It wasn't just me in Arkansas and the Clintons over here working with the CIA and the Bushes. That's all come out. It was also over here in Ohio. And so that's how important Epstein was all the way through, that he was so trusted that he was put in charge. I didn't know this till the Bannon interview came out, that was not released by Bannon, but was in the Epstein files, the two-hour interview from 2017 or 18.

• 10:37Speaker 03

  Everybody's gotta watch it because I thought, oh, this is gonna be boring. I watched it, my mouth was hanging open. I knew that Epstein was part of the Triatlantic Commission. But that's like saying you're the head of, you know, value attainment and then you've got, you know, a secretary or something. You know, it's important, but they're not the head of it. I thought, okay, but he must have, I always heard he was in the Triatlantic Commission. No, I'm watching that show, that interview, and he's like, no, David Rockefeller approached me to be his right-hand man for systems analysis such that I could integrate all these systems together. And because they had too many experts at just one level and he knew about my work, you know, with some other groups, uh, being the CIA. So he brought me in to be his representative and so they put him on the board of the Triatlantic Commission, which is one of the most powerful globalist elite or super organizational systems precursor to the World Economic Forum.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  So Larry thinks they have the World Economic Forum today, it was Klaus Schwab. It's the equivalent of him, of a 30-year-old being on the board of the WEF today, okay, which has co-voting rights with the UN. So he is the protege and attache and basically imperial legate, that's a Roman term for someone that can speak for the emperor. David Rockefeller set up the UN, set up the modern globalist system. He's on record doing it all. Here is a 30-year-old man that is literally given the control, the flyer on the world and be the representative of David Rockefeller. He's saying this in the Steve Bannon interview? He is, but then here's what, I didn't just believe Jeffrey Epstein. I already knew he, I went and looked all this up and it's all public.

• 12:05Speaker 03

  So it was all, the Triatlantic Commission has documents on its own site and talks about the meetings and the things that Epstein chaired meetings with world leaders. So we knew decades later, he's got all these world leaders calling him and, you know, all this stuff. But he was, what's the Triatlantic Commission do? It's all the leaders, the intelligence agencies, the big corporations, the governments and academia all together, just the leadership, and then coordinates globally through the three pillars, Europe, Asia and North America. The point is, this is the precursor to everything we see today. And so now you know what the Epstein thing is really all about. Now,

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Obviously through the underage stuff and the pedophilia that he was brought in clearly, uh, when he went to that girl's school, the rest of it, that's just the gateway drug with these people from my studying of them and what Ted Gunderson and all them told me. And they explained that, no, they really do, you know, like to torture kids and drain off their blood and have the endorphins, not just the adrenaline. And so I knew all this MO. And so that's how I was able to explain to people. People found videos now 18 years old or posted right now on Volworth.com today where I'm saying, no, i- i- it's a cult, it's Satanism, it's black magic. This is what they really do because i- i- it's not just Epstein, it's the people up above him to be able to do the horrible stuff they do.

• 13:30Speaker 03

  They have worldviews and world models that we're just animals, that we need to be sacrificed, that they're the Uber mention because they're willing to do this, we're weak, they're not. And so you have to understand, this is a standardized system before they called it mind control, before they called it, uh, intelligence agencies, before they called it that, they called it secret societies. And really all secret societies have been, some have been good, some have been bad, some have been a mix, but the bad ones, the dark ones, as they call it, the occult ones, the hidden ones, they have always used torture and drugs and sex and, and, and what you'd call mind control, trauma-based mind control. And, and just in the modern parlance, they took that and then institutionalized it. So you go to Skull and Bones set up in the 1820s, or I think even earlier by the, uh,

• 14:13Speaker 03

  main heirs, uh, to the, uh, Opium Trust of the British East India Company. That's public knowledge that they set up Skull and Bones, uh, off of the, uh, Druidic and, and, and, uh, Germanic Druidic, uh, teachings. And this is, we have this because of the, the daughter of one of the members, when he was dying of cancer, gave it to his daughter, who was the head of Department of Education then under Reagan, Charlotte Isby, who I interviewed many times. Her father, uh, was on it. They gave the information to Anthony Sutton, the Senate archivist. And who I knew very well, talked to many times. And so they were able to release it. So what they do at Skull and Bones is, this is, this is the elites of the elites, is they, they pick them, they get it, and then they basically by increment, explain to them,

• 14:56Speaker 03

  you're gonna become possessed by a, by a god. They don't call it a demon. And then they, and all the Skull and Bones leadership comes in the last few days, and they've been for days, sleeping naked in coffins, trying to channel these entities. They're bathing in feces, in huge vats, urine, and, and, and this is even in the movie, The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon, produced by Robert De Niro. And, and, and it's in there. And it's all, that's, that's what they do. Um, and, and, and so imagine, all, all I'm saying is, that's for people that are 18 years old, 19 years old. Th- th- th- these are, just like MS-13, wants you to not just kill somebody, now they want you to sacrifice some of a carbon pentagram in them.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  And, and they want you to do it to a kid. That's now what they graduated their, their initiations to, higher up leadership is. And, and, and so, again, it's the same thing where you, it's a rite of passage. You gotta do horrible things to prove yourself, and that's, that's what this all is. And so, that's how I was able to tell everybody that it's far worse than 14-year-old girls. They've just focused on them, because here's the thing, I'm not against these women. They are victims, they were under Stockholm syndrome, but Elon Musk is right, here's the big secret. What everybody, when you're growing up, tell you? What, what the FBI used to put in bulletins? You know, ice cream truck pulls up, there's a kid in the back, I got a puppy, come see the toy. They use kids, the other kids. The women that they've, you know, settled with, and, and, and then

• 16:18Speaker 03

  the victims and all this stuff, almost all of them are the women that ended up working for Epstein for years and years and years. Recruiting other young girls to come to them. For 200 bucks, 100 bucks. Absolutely. You'll get paid. Absolutely. Some were bought at age, this is public. At age nine or 10 from their Eastern European parents flown here and then worked for him for decades. And so exactly they're the ones that manage and run the women. And so when you see these women up there, you have to understand that in many cases, you're looking at people that for five years, 10 years worked for Epstein and were part of it. But see, that's how they stop it. Those women then tell a limited story about what was going

• 17:00Speaker 03

  on. But then you read the names of some of the women, they're in all the emails preparing the beef jerky, walking the beef jerky up. They're in the things preparing it to be sent to the labs so it can be broken down and sent to people. That's getting in the IV bags. They're, they're, I'm not trying to put these women down. I'm just saying, notice in the hearing yesterday or two days ago, they asked Bondi, they said, have you ever interviewed any of these women? And she goes, I don't know. So they asked-

• 17:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you play the clip, Rob?

• 17:28Speaker 03

  I'll find it. And they asked the women, and none of them have ever been talked to. But if you look, a couple of women in there were actually girlfriends after they were adults and worked for Epstein for over a decade. And it turns out worked for George Soros. So see, I'm not trying to demonize the women. I'm just saying, it's, it's, what you're seeing is not what you're actually getting here. Okay. And so it doesn't, it doesn't go down to all the kids that got eaten. Doesn't go down to all the kids that got strangled and thrown in the-

• 17:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Some of these girls that are up there, you're saying worked for Soros?

• 17:58Speaker 03

  Uh, one of them, I can pull it up, currently does on the Tides Foundation-

• 18:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip, Rob.

• 18:02Speaker 03

  Go ahead.

• 18:03Speaker 04

  Ask them if that's true. Now with the survivors and victims who are here, please stand up one more time. Just by show of hands, how many of you or your loved ones actually have met with the Department of Justice and provided testimony and estimate and evidence? None. And of those of you who have not met, which is everyone, how many of you have reached out either individually or through a lawyer or representative to offer to provide testimony and evidence?

• 18:39Speaker 04

  All of them. And of those of you, all of you, who have reached out, how many of you were denied or ignored by the Department of Justice? All of them. And despite the shameful and despicable efforts by Ms. Bondi and her department to intimidate you, how many of you are still willing to speak to the Department of Justice? All of them. Well, Ms. Bondi, it looks like you have some more witnesses to talk to.

• 19:07Speaker 03

  Gentlemen, the time has expired. Now, I'm not defending Bondi. She's involved in a cover-up. I can get into how and why from our information. But then, she knows it's a whole nother level because I'm not saying all the women, I forget her name, I can pull it up. You see the one right there with the large breasts and short, in the middle of like kind of strawberry blonde hair? I can pull her name up. Uh, no, uh, her, yeah. She is high-level operative. She met up, seen at 21, worked, basically worked for them. What's her name? I can pull it up. But, but, but she worked for them. It's, it's, it's in the news. She worked for them for almost 10 years. And the point is, a lot of these people are in the emails. You have to understand, guys, why does it stop at 14, 15-year-old girls? Because they don't want you, and, and the Republicans don't want to go there,

• 19:50Speaker 03

  the Democrats don't want to go there, they don't want to go to, "We got the sex slave at the Hyatt, the finances been taken care of." Okay, yeah, I just bought these babies from these women. Yep. I mean, and then you have police reports, a woman saying, "Yeah, I'm at Zorro Ranch, you know, they, they took my baby away from me." You have police reports from totally separate deals, and you have in the files him talking about the same thing. Hundreds of emails. We have the smoking guns. We need 100 FBI agents out there with, with ground penetrating radar digging up Zorro Ranch. They need to be tearing out the walls at all these places. Where are the hundreds of hard drives they took out of Zorro Ranch? That's the real cover-up, okay? So, so everything's a limited hangout. Everything stops with, "Oh, these girls that got, got, that got recruited at 14, oh, it's so terrible."

• 20:34Speaker 03

  And, and, and, yeah, okay, it is terrible, but I, but, but, but... The ones that got killed, committed suicide, were the ones that explained, no, those other girls, most of them, they worked for Epstein. They, they, they, they were the ones managing it, running it. In these emails, they would have a girl, you know, 12, 13 that they grabbed, that they'd bring her there, and, and, and, and, and it's in the emails, and he's like, "You're a fat slob, and, uh, you know, you better take care of these men, or we're gonna make you stay in this closet. But once you're nice, you can hang out with the nice ladies upstairs." So they would use female, female, uh, you, you, you control, and, you know, females wanting to be with females, you know, socially, to, to get these women with peer

• 21:15Speaker 03

  pressure into the Stockholm syndrome. And, so, so, all I'm saying is, when Bonnie knows full well, uh, that, that, if she goes and talks to those women, they already know what the setup is. And there's been a deal made above that.

• 21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. So there's a risk to talk to them? Because the average person watching this, Alex, is gonna be like, "Well, you know, remember the debate with Hillary and, uh, Trump?" And Trump says, "Let me tell you who we have here." You know, he had all the, the ladies that were accused, you know, that were victims of, uh, Bill Clinton. And she didn't know how to handle it. And the audience looked at it, I would say that was one of the biggest stunts that helped Trump beat Hillary.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  The average person who watches this, they look at it and say, "Why don't you talk to the victims? Why don't you go speak to them? Why don't you want to hear their stories? What is the risk for Bonnie to speak to them?"

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Again, I want to be clear. I'm trying to show people the different angles of the 35,000-foot view. I think Bonnie's handled this terribly. I believe they are involved in a cover-up, which has led them right into this disaster. And I'm gonna answer your question, but first I want to say this. That's why Trump has to go there with all the human sacrifice, with the blood drinking, with the black magic on the blackboard, with the buried bodies, with the buying babies, with the disappearing children, and it's all Democrats connected to it. Instead, as Bonnie said in the hearing yesterday, she said it'll bring down the stock market if this is known. I've said that about 500 times. Not that I agree with that, but I've been told...

• 22:52Speaker 03

  Right before Trump got reelected, they said, listen, Mossad, British Intelligence, CIA ran this, it's really a giant money laundering operation, which we already knew, Mike Ben's proven. Trump believes that it's also cold, there's no way to prove it, the Democrats have had the file, they're gonna twist it, he's been convinced it's all disaster, it's old news, it's designed to be a Tar Baby, which it is, so he's gonna say, let's just move on. But I explained at the time, and I've told the White House this, you can't, it's a trap. This is how the people that are guilty trick you into becoming an accomplice, and then manage it and turn it around and politically destroy you, then of course, none of the truth ever comes out, it's all a giant smokescreen of garbage and fake AI and the rest of it.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  So I was just simply bringing that clip up, not to obfuscate from the clip, that's why I raised it, but to say, here's the other layers to it that are going on. Now to answer your other question, yes, this looks absolutely horrible, she looks like a deer in the headlights, she looks like she has a gun to her head, like when we saw Bongino and Patel 11 months ago get up on Fox, they go, I know we said there were another shooter in Pennsylvania, there wasn't. Epstein acted alone, in fact, he wasn't even a child trafficker, and he had no accomplices, and he killed himself, and the Easter Bunny is real, and everybody turned against him because we'd already studied it, we knew it wasn't true, plus it was a 180. So it's the same thing, it looks terrible, it is terrible, it's hurting Trump really

• 24:17Speaker 03

  bad, it's hurting America. And again, my frustration is, it lets the Democrats, who are the ones that are really guilty, if you look at the evidence, pretend that it's Trump and the Republicans that are the pedo protection party, and notice, they're not going to, you know, the big reports of top Democrats and people raping kids, and all the witnesses and everything, they're focusing on Lutnik, which is fine, Lutnik obviously was in business with him, obviously moved in next door to him, lied and said he only saw him once and thought he was a creep and ran out of his house with his wife, and then a couple of years later, he's out on his island with his kids. Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. But Lutnik's never been implicated in any of the illegal stuff. Fine, fire Lutnik, or if you found him in a crime, indict him, but let's spend as much

• 25:00Speaker 03

  time on the hardcore cannibalism, Satanism, human trafficking, buying, selling children, and ooh, that's Democrats.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not there yet, they're not there yet, by the way, it doesn't seem like they're there yet. This is the clip I think you were talking about, Rob, you may wanna fast forward to the part.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  I'm branching, I'm gonna have everyone.

• 25:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I get that. Go forward, Rob, when he starts saying, yeah, go ahead.

• 25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He killed himself. Again, you want me to, I've, I've, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. This the clip you were talking about? Yes. Yeah, so, you know, a, a part of it for me, yesterday I watched Bondi, uh, hearing and I asked myself, I couldn't find one clip that made her look good. Not, not one. Typically, these hearings, you know, you, you'll say, okay, she won this one, they won this one, this was even, this was whatever, nobody won here, she took this one. I, I don't know if I found the clip. Now, don't get me wrong. You know, the whole fighting back and pushing back and all that stuff, was that present? Sure. Asking Jasmine Crockett, you know, she goes for five minutes, doesn't ask a single question,

• 26:04Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, or the other lady who doesn't bring up Hakeem Jeffries, or calling out a lot of these people, that's great. There's a part of it that some people are speculating. Tell me what you think about this. Where the, the DOJ or the AG was monitoring what the representatives were searching when they were going to look at the Epstein files. I don't know if you saw that or not. Rob, do you have that?

• 26:28Speaker 05

  I'll find it.

• 26:29Patrick Bet-David?

  There is a, there's a story going around that they were actually monitoring what these representatives were searching when they went to look at Epstein files. What do you know about that story?

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Oh, I'll guarantee you that was going on. I mean, I, I haven't seen the story, but of course they were. I mean, everything in those computers is being monitored and there's a record of it.

• 26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So, meaning if I'm whoever I am, I'm going, I'm gonna go out-

• 26:51Speaker 03

  It's just like when you search your own files or you search Google, you're there searching a private database, the DOJ, of course they, they know who logs in, this commerce person, and then now they know what they're going to look at, they have a record of it.

• 27:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So, they know exactly what you're looking at. Why would they want to know what you're looking at?

• 27:05Speaker 03

  I mean, by default, that's the way computers work. I don't know if that story is particularly true. I just say that's the way computers work.

• 27:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, where is that story that, Rob, that's saying that happened?

• 27:13Speaker 05

  Right here, this is, uh, Representative Nancy Mace of South Carolina said, "Full release of the names of the Epstein files would shock the world." Um, and then there is an article here this morning, "Justice Department Tracking Which Epstein Files Lawmakers Are Searching For Opening And Reviewing." According to this is Nancy Mace as well.

• 27:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's a, that's a two-month-old story as well, on what they're looking at. I guess it makes sense to see what person's story they're interested in. The other part of it is-

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Oh, I mean, I mean, no, it, I mean, it means the watchers are, who's gonna watch the watchers? And so, I mean, I agree it's Big Brother. I'm just saying by the very nature of it, they have the technology, so I'm sure they are monitoring what they're watching.

• 27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I would assume this is something both sides probably do. The other part of it is, you know the Dems, they only want one person. They want Trump, right? They want to get Trump. You know, this has been going on under four presidents that people have been looking at. Why is it that it's fallen on this administration's mishandling of the files? Because right now, the left is running with this. They're saying they're hiding it. Messi and Rokan are coming together. This is not a good look on the curtain of administration.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  Well, you just nailed it. But going back to your last thing you said about Bonnie, and then I'll cover that, if I may. Even Senator Kennedy, who's a Republican and likes her, he had to tear her up on Epstein. I mean, so even Senator Kennedy had to nail her. And that's because she's been sent in there to sell something that isn't going to sell. And everybody keeps blaming her and blaming even Todd Blanch, who, by the way, doesn't like me. I'm not defending him. They're following Trump's directives. And I said this, you know, a year ago, when the cover-up started, and it's been since confirmed. So it's Trump that thinks it's a distraction and a diversion to Tar Baby, which it is. But it doesn't matter, because, exactly, the Democrats never wanted to touch

• 28:58Speaker 03

  it. They covered it up. They controlled the files. That's why there's all these clips going around. I saw today of Don Lemon, you know, just three years ago, going, "How dare the Republicans try to investigate the Epstein files. This is bigoted, and this is horrible, and this is, you know, crazy, and this is terrible." So, yeah, and that's what Trump should be pointing out. You're the pedo party. You're the sexualized kids party. It's all the Democrats that are in these files. But because there are so many big bankers and British royalty and all of it, he has been told, that's what I was told, again, I've said this probably 100 times, I said, "Trump has been convinced that it will crash the economy if all these bankers and people, if this stuff comes out, and he thinks and justifies the means, it's too dangerous."

• 29:40Speaker 03

  And look, Trump, I'm not pushing this, I'm saying, let's look at his perspective.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  The carbon taxes have been estimated by top experts, but they put them in in the next decade to kill 2 billion people by starvation of war. Okay, Trump just got us out of the Paris Accord. Now, they've secured the border, they found half of the 500,000 missing children. They've got no tax on tips, the economy is starting to turn around. It goes on and on and on and on and on, getting men out of women's sports, exposing, you know, the NGOs, the election fraud. I mean, it's great, that's why it's paradoxical. I want Trump to succeed, but he has to understand that this has become a litmus test.

• 30:22Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not gonna win here if they continue going this way. If they continue fighting, opening it up, this is just gonna make it seem like they're hiding something more and more and more. So what should they do? Should they release the whole thing? What is the right move to make here? And by the way, before you answer that question, guys, you've been asking this for a long time. It's official, Alex Jones is on Manect, you can officially ask him any questions on Manect. And I know for the longest time you guys have been saying, "Let's get Alex on, Rob, I don't know if the QR code's gonna be on the bottom or not, or an ability to ask him questions." You guys may have stories of Epstein, angles, other questions, things you want to share with him, you can officially Manect him. Go ahead, Alex.

• 31:02Speaker 03

  By the way, that's a cool service for me to do that.

• 31:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I know you couldn't, it's in a better place now.

• 31:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely. So, um, did I answer your last question?

• 31:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No, so I asked the question, so what should they do? Because for me, as I'm sitting there, if I score the biggest victories, crime, murder down 20%, border, beautiful, safe, people feel safe, having their kids play outside, San Diego, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, nice, we're winning in some of these areas.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  DC.

• 31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, DC, safe for all crime, all this stuff, Minnesota, Minneapolis, ICE, maybe a couple fumbles there, sure. This is number one fumble. And so if they hired five advisors to go sit in a room with them, these are logical players, you're one of them, what counsel do you give to them?

• 31:46Speaker 03

  Well, when I was driving here this morning, I know the White House watches your show, they watch mine, but not as much, but I've been told by the folks that they love your show, and I hope they listen, I know they listen, I've... Mark Mitchell, the pollster, was on my show a few months ago and they really liked what he had to say, so the Vice President brought him to meet with Trump and tried to explain the same stuff. Which, you know, Mitchell was on my show yesterday just saying, "This is, you gotta stop, he's doing..." He's great. He's one of the most accurate pollsters. It's killing Trump. I've, my family, people on the street, my callers, the, my listeners, I've got my finger on the pulse, I don't need a poll. Tell people, people want a rebel that goes after the evil deep state. We cut our teeth exposing the Democrats as the pedophile protection party. It's, it's Kira Starmer was the head judge that would prosecute one pedophile for 15 years in the UK and protected the Islamic grooming gangs.

• 32:31Speaker 03

  And, and then now he's all tied in with all these people at Epstein's Island and he won't resign. I mean, i- it's like they're up to their eyeballs in the real stuff and, and Trump is just saying, "I'm not involved, I didn't do anything, I dropped the dime," which is in the, in the, in the FBI files. Well, where's Trump at a press conference? See, I was the FBI informant, I got him arrested 18 years ago. I broke down with Roger Stone like 11 years ago before he even ran. So that's what's crazy is though, he knows there's so much garbage and that's what they explained, they go, "Sir, in the last year of Biden, they implemented this tip line," and I was telling people that were in the cabinet meetings when they convinced him of this, they go, "Sir, they implemented this tip line and anybody by fax or email or phone can, can call in and file a report."

• 33:14Speaker 03

  So schizophrenic women, you know, uh, like in August, you'll call in and say, "I was at Mar-a-Lago and Trump and Elon, you know, raped me," and, and all of a sudden it turns out they weren't even at Mar-a-Lago then. Or an, another report, "I was at this golf course this year and Trump raped me and did this." The golf course wasn't built for five years, you know, i- it's, so Trump goes, "What, you mean there's a public..." And now, "Sir," you see Jamie Raskin in Schumer, "Trump is in the files a million times." Well, 'cause it's all, so, so now, they've, they've got this ongoing tip line. So when you hear, when you hear that there's 3 million more files they haven't given you, next month it'll be 5 million. You understand? Because it's a, it's a perpetual motion machine. It's a cornucopia. It just spews it.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  So, so I'm not defending this, I'm telling you what Trump's been told. And that's why I said, "He's told it'll crash the stock market." Bondi yesterday, "It'll crash the stock market." And it's not like if they had targets they could get, or even a few of their own people that could sacrifice, they do it. They know it's a giant mess of BS and crap. And then the women that are the victims and the survivors, almost all of them were, you know, got into it. And that's how it works. And we're actually madams, you know, out running these operations. And now they've been recruited, snapped up by the Democrats, and are now on the payroll. That way, all the Democrats that are in there can be protected by the witnesses. Oh, we're not gonna talk about kids disappearing or beef jerky. We're not gonna talk about one piece of pizza that's glowing and loving, and you're gonna love

• 34:43Speaker 03

  it for seven people. We're not gonna talk about, oh, we'll deliver the-

• 34:46Patrick Bet-David?

  These are in the files?

• 34:47Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. We'll deliver the seven, nine, and 12-year-old to the hot tub for your entertainment, Mr. Podesta. But remember, they're children, but they're well-trained. But you gotta, yeah, oh, yeah. And it's not just in, it's also in the WikiLeaks files. So all the same crap is in there that is in here. And it all just goes-

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• 36:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the clip you were talking about, Rob, if you want to play. Don Lemon on Anderson Cooper saying you shouldn't go after Epstein's files. Go ahead.

• 36:09Speaker 08

  I think it's interesting when you look on the internet and you see the bigotry on the internet and the people who have been, you know, these conspiracy theories about QAnon and about Jeffrey Epstein. There's a picture of me on the internet, right? Where someone has superimposed the face of Jeffrey Epstein over Chris Cuomo and I, like, hanging out, having... And there are people who actually believe it. And people say, "Well, you know, not all Trump supporters are bigots or racists." Okay, fine, you can believe that. But when I look at all the people who put things like that on the internet, 99 times out of 100, it is a Trump supporter. So people should think about that as they are placing those things on the internet, as they are wearing political messages in the workplace as well.

• 36:52Speaker 09

  Well, you know, I mean, talking about that, there's a fake flight manifest that has like 100...

• 36:58Speaker 08

  That you're on it?

• 36:59Speaker 09

  Yeah, I'm allegedly on it. Obviously, you know, if you want to see who was on that flight, there are court documents and there's like a handful of people whose names you might know who were, you know, who were ever on any flights of his.

• 37:14Speaker 03

  Here's the same tag they ran. WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, about two months before the election in 2016, releases millions of emails. So everybody goes and jumps in them and verifies them and checks them. And there's all these emails about upstate New York and other places, with the Podesta's with others, like, "Hey, we're gonna have our Thalima rituals tomorrow. You know, we're bringing the spirit cooking." That's blood.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  And it's all in there. And there's famous emails where... And it's a well-known woman that ran a service where kids come and play with you and you can order them online and stuff. And it's just her delivering the three children to John Podesta at the wooded facility. And then they'll be in the hot tub waiting for you for your entertainment. And this is all the reality. Well, how did they divert off? They then had the New York Times and CNN report on 4chan and 8chan.

• 38:09Speaker 03

  diverting off to a pizza place in, in, in, in DC that, that the people were part of, but nothing was really going on there with imaginary underground torture facilities that didn't exist, so they could go report on the fake story instead of the real stuff over there, you understand? So that's how they were discrediting it, saying, oh, there's no Epstein, there's no pedophilia, it's all fake stuff about us. And that's another thing happening. Somebody's flooding Facebook, X, TikTok with famous footage of Trump at beauty pageants and things like that.

• 38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Young girls, these are all AI deep fake.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, and they

• 38:38Patrick Bet-David?

  They're everywhere.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  And they march in the little girls. Yeah. And, and it's admitted fake. You can even see it's famous videos of Trump. You can find the original video at a pageant.

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But they work. Even, even if 20% believes it, they work. You know, some of these clips, uh, uh, I don't know. I don't know about this one. No, no. There are some of them that's literally young girls. You'll see like 10 year old, 12 year old girls that deep fakes are being made.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  It's the one that starts, it's the one that starts with, um, there's a bunch of them, but with like a little girl crying on stairs, holding her crotch. It's not, it's not, it's not porn rabbit, but, but it clearly, she's just been raped. And, uh, and then, and then it cuts to all these shots of Trump at Mar-a-Lago and stuff that are known videos that we know they're, and then they mesh them in with all these little girls, they're crying and Trump's pointing at them. And then they cut in, yeah, it's, it's sick.

• 39:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see the 2006 phone call that the president made to the PD saying, hey, Ghislaine Maxwell's evil, that story that came out two days ago? You saw that? Rob, if you want to pull that up, Trump told Palm Beach, everyone knew about Epstein, Maxwell was evil, go a little bit lower. So why, why did this story not come out earlier? Why is it coming out now?

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Well, th- this is, this is spinning like it's bad that he said they were bad then, but, but, but, but now he says Ghislaine's not bad now. Roger Stone wrote a book on this. We were all vetting Trump. I was right before I endorsed him. I was one of the first to do it. It was on record in a come out in court that Trump dropped the dime on him 18 years ago because he pulled, uh, Virginia Giuffre, who was like 15 and worked there out, and he got pissed off about it. And so, and so you even have Michael Wolff in recordings going back five, six, seven years. Years of them trying to get him to say something about Trump. He's like, no, he never got a massage. No, he never was around the girls. He was never around the kids. No, but, but he did drop a dime on me and he's a piece of shit.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  And he's the worst guy ever. And, you know, he's such a scammer and he rips everybody off of business, which means Trump beats people. Uh, so, so, I mean, it's literally Trump dropped that everything Roger Stone told me. Back when he was trying to recruit me to support Trump that Trump was gonna win, which I vetted and got into. He explained how it all worked and how they're gonna attack Trump for this, but it was really Trump first exposed it. And then now all that stuff has come out because Roger lives here. You know, I mean, he's been at Mar-a-Lago since Trump got it. It's been the Trump's for 50 years. He, I mean, everything Roger's ever told me has been accurate. I mean, he told me, and by the way, I like Steve Bannon. Um, I don't think Steve Bannon's a bad guy. He was involved with Epstein. Epstein was very politically powerful. He was really the, the shadow head of the Trilateral Commission. People say he can control these world leaders. He really did. Okay, the emails abandoned arm.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  How do we overthrow the left and get populists into the UK? He's asking Epstein advice on that. So, I mean, Bannon calls me all the time and sends me links and says, how do we do this? How do you put pressure on that? Hey, we need to get on this. That's Bannon works like 18 hours. I'm not defending it. I probably wouldn't have hung out with Epstein. Uh, but the contacts with him are there and it's what Bannon always said they were. It was elections. It was contacts because Epstein was like, you could get any number you wanted, any information from him. So Bannon was going, he even says in the interview, are you the devil? You know, you're a pretty bad guy.

• 41:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up that clip?

• 41:47Speaker 03

  So, but I mean, he's like going to the Trilateral Commission. This is David Rockefeller handed it over to him.

• 41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  How many hours was that? Did he say 14 hours?

• 41:54Speaker 03

  Uh, uh, well, they say there's a whole bunch of hours, but all they, I think all the feds got was like two hours.

• 42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Wolf ads, 100 hours. I had Wolf on and we talked about it. Rob played his clip.

• 42:05Speaker 10

  The devil, the devil, the devil himself said, I'm gonna exchange some dollars for your child's life.

• 42:12Speaker 11

  Do you think you're the devil himself?

• 42:16Speaker 10

  I know, but I do have a good mirror.

• 42:19Speaker 11

  It's a serious question.

• 42:20Speaker 10

  I'm sorry.

• 42:20Speaker 11

  Do you think you're the devil himself?

• 42:23Speaker 10

  I don't know. Why would you say that?

• 42:25Speaker 11

  Because you have all the attributes. You're incredibly smart. You remember, the devil is somebody knows-

• 42:28Speaker 10

  The devil's what?

• 42:29Speaker 11

  The devil's brilliant. You read Milton's Paradise Lost.

• 42:33Speaker 10

  No, the devil scares me.

• 42:35Speaker 11

  Satan is Satan is the is the he is the-

• 42:40Speaker 03

  Good for man for asking this.

• 42:41Speaker 11

  Number one or two archangel. And the reason he goes to hell and leads the rebellion is because he can't be the top guy. And his thing is I'd rather I'd rather reign in hell than serve in heaven.

• 42:54Speaker 10

  I saw that in a movie once called American Dharma. I don't remember who said it. Okay? We have to go.

• 43:01Speaker 11

  Okay, good.

• 43:03Speaker 10

  Tell them.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  So and and so there are I'm not saying Kabbalah, it's all the satanic, but any any teaching has its dark and light side, but Jewish mysticism goes back to King Solomon and even before that. And in the Old Testament, they say you don't get involved in it, but then you get the New Testament start getting written, like there's thirty plus other books, you know, written by the rebellion mainline, you know, Jewish groups since then. And then there's a bunch of books written by Solomon and I've I've actually read them. And that's that's the symbol of Israel is really the seal of Solomon. It's not the Star of David. That's just a made up modern name. But in all of that, there are experts on it, like serious scholars that don't really practice it, but don't know how to decipher it. So remember when they first, James O'Keefe

• 43:49Speaker 03

  got footage inside that showed the temple and gargoyles and everything inside the blue and white striped temple with the gods and goddesses on top of it and the chimeric gods, you know, mix of animals and humans. So but by the time O'Keefe cut that footage, somebody had erased the answer to the equation. So he had this esoteric equation, but only if you do Kabbalistic research and then all the modern stuff, AI and everything integrated into it. Would you then get the answer? And then the answer is the takeover and total enslavement, destruction of humanity and-

• 44:24Speaker 03

  How they're gonna use AI and all these other systems integrated into the banking system to do it. And then when you watch the interview with Bannon, he's talking about, and that interview was like 2018, he's talking about how the AI is already out of control. We don't know how to program it. It's gonna take over, but it's okay. We're gonna merge with it. And you can see that he's at the highest levels of all of this, planning this with big tech and everybody else. I mean, it's truly insane.

• 44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. By the way, you were mentioned in the files, what, 14 times? And I think in one of the letters, he said something negative about you and called the president elephant. I don't know what it was. Jones is crazier than Trump or the elephant. Who's Paul Krasner? Who's Paul Krasner?

• 45:07Speaker 03

  He's a globalist. You can look him up. Yeah, but there's actually 16 we found now.

• 45:12Patrick Bet-David?

  16?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I like the fact he doesn't like me.

• 45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a compliment.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  But I love how my-

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Similar to Rogan.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  I love how my enemy spun it, though. They would, they would spin it like, Jones is in the files, he won't respond. And I'd see all these comments. I'm like, what do you mean I didn't respond? I just covered it as soon as I knew about it. It's like, but they just, they just throw it out like, anyways.

• 45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is this guy, Rob?

• 45:37Speaker 05

  This is Paul, according to Google, this is Paul Krasner, the person that was emailing Jeffrey Epstein, this specific email right here.

• 45:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. Question for you about Thomas Massie, Rob. Can you pull up the clip with Massey and Bondi? There's a part about Massey and Bondi going back and forth. This is it. I want to get your thoughts on Massey. Go ahead, Rob.

• 45:57Speaker 12

  ... respond, and then the gentleman can move to his next question. Chairman, it's my time.

• 45:59Speaker 13

  Within 40 minutes, you asked me a question. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back-

• 46:06Speaker 02

  Within 40 minutes of me catching you red-handed?

• 46:09Speaker 13

  Red-hand, there was one redaction out of over 4,700. And we invited you in. We, this guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to, you're a failed politician.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  Chairman, I want you to watch the video. Chairman, please restore his time and remind the witness of the rules here.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  Himself, there is no credible information.

• 46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about Massey?

• 46:32Speaker 03

  I think this is the only time where she was right. But I think Massey overall is the good guy comparatively. So I'm not putting him down, just if you look at this one play. Cause I did see this last night. I didn't sleep last night, I was addicted watching all this. Stuff's too riveting. She, they, they did leave Les Wechsler, who's the CIA controller, you know, an owner of Victoria's Secret, a bunch of brands.

• 46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the one that gave the largest private residence Manhattan, 54,000 square foot house to Epstein as a gift. That was a $77 million property for no reason.

• 47:05Speaker 03

  And he just so happened to own the house that, uh, that Lutnik moved into next door.

• 47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Who owned it? Wechsler?

• 47:14Speaker 03

  Yep, same deal.

• 47:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't know that.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  In a trust, in a trust, yeah.

• 47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 47:17Speaker 03

  It was called common.

• 47:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So he bought it from him? Lutnik bought it from Wechsler?

• 47:21Speaker 03

  He didn't even know that, and that's actually true. Cause I spent hours seeing, Lutnik was lying about this. It was just some big, big, big Manhattan real estate trust. But it turned out it was owned above it by Wechsler and Epstein.

• 47:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, those things you can't control. I, I live in an area where Paul Castellano, the boss of the, you know, one of the big, I think it was the Gambino family or the Coloma family who owned the house. So, hey, how did you get the house that's in? Some of those things you can't control. But go back with the story.

• 47:50Speaker 03

  And then Al Capone, like retired or something?

• 47:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You hear these types of stories. But go back to Massey. Massey saying that about Bondi, you were gonna say something.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  Oh, um, I mean, there's so much to say about Massey. I mean, I mean, here's the deal. I've tracked this out of the people that got involved, talking to Massey, uh, Emerald Robinson and so many others, literally just got him asking questions a couple of years ago, even before Trump got back in and Massey was on this. Cause the American people want it. That's why we're covering it. And, and then Trump gets in and says, yeah, we're gonna go look at it. And then says, no, there's nothing there. It's a hoax. And we're like, what do you mean? And now there's all these documents. And then Trump starts saying, we gotta get rid of Massey. He's a traitor. Trump started that. Trump is committing political suicide again with little, you know, little cuts.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  He ran off MTG. I know the inside baseball on that. And I still support him. I've been nothing but persecuted, supported him. I don't get any money supporting him. I only get attacks and lawsuits by the Democrats because overall it's good what he's doing on so many fronts. He's dismantling the globalists. He's really bringing 20 trillion in jobs back. Already about eight trillions invested. He's already got energy prices down sustainably. So, but I have a responsibility still to report, he went and started a fight with Massey.

• 49:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 49:11Speaker 03

  Uh, and, and, and made weird statements about his wife ever she died. And then, and then he attacked MTG. And listen, MTG isn't running for Senator Governor. She's always been a successful woman in her own right. You know, had a very successful construction company making tens of millions a year. I talked to her, good friends with her. I, I knew she was gonna resign five days before she did. She said, I think I'm gonna step down. I can't handle it. And she said, Alex, you know, I, I, I, this is off record. But then later it came out. She said it again. So I can say it. They, they had a deep fake AI saying, but that, that was cold though from real statements she made basically. She goes, the last time I really talked to him any length, he just said, you know, listen, we can't have these files come out because it'll hurt the stock market. It'll discredit America, the faith and credit, you know, basically, and it'll embarrass my friends.

• 49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Who said that?

• 49:55Speaker 03

  Trump.

• 49:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Said it to who?

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Her. And, and, and now you, you got Bondi yesterday saying it in, in the Congress. But, but, but Roger Stone, when he was President-elect, said, hey, just so you know, this Epstein thing should be a big problem. And Roger doesn't mind me saying this now. But he said Trump's had the CIA come to him. He'd tell me what Trump said, but they, you know, have dinner all the time. And he goes, he goes, Trump thinks it's gonna ruin the economy and it's a big tar baby. And the Democrats have had the file and it's a setup and the intelligence agencies say it can bring down the whole country. So, you know, don't expect Trump to, you know. And, and, and, and, but again, you can see how it's an unending fiasco. Like in a way, Trump's right. But you, you still, you can't let them get away with what they did. And again, it's 99% Democrats. So he's giving his main enemies.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  The victory and then and then he's talking about how Bill Clinton's a great guy and a nice guy and too bad he's got to testify to Congress about this and Ghislaine Maxwell's a nice person, you know, obviously trying to defuse things and then meanwhile he comes after MTG who would literally, you know, eat his shit off the floor previously if he asked her to to save the country and Thomas Massie was like a Ron Paul type who's just very, very, uh, serious about his convictions and so Trump turned them into enemies, made them more popular, Massey's more popular, you know, even though they're trying to primary him and, and, and put out that lie that she was polling bad. So that's why she, she didn't want to, uh, Trump didn't want her to run for the Senate. She didn't want to run for

• 51:21Speaker 03

  the Senate. So they just make up this bull. They attacked their own party and it's the stupidest thing ever. So, I mean, again, I, I need Trump to succeed, but this is so dumb.

• 51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Massey doesn't give me the vibes of a bad guy. But when I watch Massey, he gives me the vibes of a good guy that he disagrees with him. What does he say? His famous line is, uh, I'm with the president 91% of the time and the 9% that I'm not is when it's we're fighting pedophiles and, you know, a couple of the things that he says there.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  Attacking Iran, but I mean, that's the other thing. Was that Lake Tahoe? That's pretty.

• 51:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Was that what you say?

• 52:00Speaker 03

  Tahoe, I love Lake Tahoe. Yeah. So, sorry. Uh, what was I saying?

• 52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Massey, Massey.

• 52:06Speaker 03

  Squirrel, squirrel. Um, yeah, no, Massey's the type of guy that comes off a farmer, nice and friendly, but you start messing with him, he's gonna fight back.

• 52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a fighter.

• 52:15Speaker 03

  And so, and you can tell he actually likes it now once the fight's going. So it's like, Trump, you keep picking fights with some of the.

• 52:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You think, you think he is a possible candidate for 28, for those that feel Israel's got a little bit too much influence and for those that don't like the way Epstein was handled? You think he could be a leading candidate for 28?

• 52:35Speaker 03

  Absolutely. I mean, I don't know if he can win, but he could definitely run and get a lot of votes and then inject that issue into the larger discussion.

• 52:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Massey. Yeah, I think he's formidable. I think he's formidable and he's got a following. There's certain people that swear by him and follow what he has to say and you know, more and more you see him talk, you're like, okay, I was with Rand Paul the other day at DC. And we're doing a conversation. Of course, he's a libertarian. I've spent time with his dad as well. And you see the way they think is slightly different, but there's logic behind it. There's reason behind it where the average person can say, this guy sounds like a reasonable player. How do you think this is gonna end up? How, and maybe, maybe the better question, Alex, is this. How long do you think this is gonna be a story that they're gonna be talking about?

• 53:16Speaker 03

  Um, it would have already been gone and they would have busted some of these top guys and we would have moved on. Uh, cause the, the trail is cold, the FBI and Epstein, you know, who ordered a truckload of, you know, acid to dissolve everything the first day he was under investigation. I mean, the, the really bad stuff's been destroyed and erased. The people that know are the young women that are the survivors, uh, that were really accomplices in most cases. So we have the witnesses. We know who they are. They're right there. Uh, and that's, that's how they contain the whole thing. Not demonizing him, it's just a fact you've got to understand investigations. And so the way Trump keeps doubling down stubbornly, it's only gonna get worse, a bigger black hole. Uh, and it's already just murdering him in the polls, distracting from all the good work he's doing.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  And his greatest strength is his greatest weakness. He was always, as Roger Stone says, thick-skinned, pig-headed in a good way, doesn't give a damn. And he says that, you know, he said, Trump, even before Butler and all the persecution, had a total, I don't give an F attitude. He said after Butler, it was intense. He said now Trump just does not care. He, he says, I'm on a mission. I'm gonna save the country. I know I'm not involved with Epstein. I know it's a diversion. I know it's all the Democrats. So I'm not gonna even have this tart baby fight. And if the American people don't wanna save things and you wanna impeach me or remove me? He literally says, and people come in and say, sir, we need to do something about this. He'll say, and it needs to be like this. He'll start screaming at him. Like, remember, sometimes he goes, I'm sorry, I'm hoarse. I've been screaming at people behind the scenes.

• 54:41Speaker 03

  You know, and, and he will, he will, he has a legendary temper, but it used to pop out a lot. Now it's like, fuck.

• 54:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Specifically on this topic.

• 54:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, or if you bring up the poison shots, you know, he brought Kennedy in and they're restricting it, cleaning it up. That's, he never admits he's wrong.

• 54:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Poison shots, you're talking about the vaccine, COVID vaccine.

• 54:58Speaker 03

  And, and, and the thing is that the Democrats can't bully him and the media can't intimidate him. That's a good thing. But then it also, when his constituents are like, hey, this is what we elected you for, that, that pigheadedness becomes a problem. So it's hurting Trump. I don't see, you know, a month, a thousand years of politics, who knows what's gonna happen. I hope we win the midterms. Here's what I want to say to the American people. We need to start discussing, just being pragmatic. It's terrible. This is bipartisan cover up. The Democrats act like they're not involved in cover up. They are. Explain how the cover up's working. Explain how bad it really is. Who's behind it? The intelligence agencies. And that it's far worse than anybody can imagine. Keep educating, keep exposing, discredit the power structure, discredit the system, and then run candidates for office

• 55:41Speaker 03

  that are more hardcore and awake. And support Congressman Massey, you know, support Tulsi Gabbard, you know, her work, support all the good people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that's just knocking out of the park. And just say, hey, too bad, Trump destroyed his legacy. Too bad, you know, he put a big scar on how wonderful all this was in populism. But populists getting people in is gonna be perfect. Populists are winning everywhere. This is the fourth turning. So Trump just rode in on a wave. More waves are coming in. So we don't let Trump define us. We define ourselves by what we stand for. And we are exposing it all. And I'm the guy that first talked about Epstein. So whenever I expose the deep fakes, people go, oh, my God, you're covering up for Trump. No, I'm covering

• 56:25Speaker 03

  the real things he did and calling balls and strikes. So there's a hysteria just to say everything's real, instead of actually doing their research. But, but, but I think this is going to grievously wound the Trump administration and it has the potential to derail the American recovery.

• 56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened to the Trump that would fire people? First, first administration he was in, he fired Skirimuchi within 10 days. I think 30 to 40 people that he appointed, he fired. This time around, his, I think his retention, he went from 43% turnover on the first term. Right now they're at 28, 29%. How come he's not firing anybody?

• 57:02Speaker 03

  I'd like to answer that question, but I have had a bunch of tea and coffee. I'd like to

• 57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Use the restroom.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  I'd like to piss like a Russian racehorse, sir.

• 57:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there to your left.

• 57:08Speaker 03

  I'll be right back, thank you.

• 57:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to go do that, Rob?

• 57:10Speaker 03

  A very suspenseful, a very suspenseful. Mission to shake a branch.

• 57:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, go do your thing. Go do your thing. Rob, what clips can we play while we're giving this break here? Because there are many, many different things that we went through. Trying to think if we want to go to this one clip that I pulled up. By the way, pull this up, Rob. Why don't you play the clip with the professor? Folks, if you've not seen this, The Epstein Files have gotten so crazy that a teacher is approached by someone asking question. And look how this man out of Ohio State reacts when asked about Epstein. Go ahead, Rob.

• 57:46Speaker 14

  This one one. No. No. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 57:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoa!

• 57:51Speaker 14

  I told you not to put that in my face. I didn't.

• 57:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, you can't do that.

• 57:54Speaker 14

  Yes, I did. Now, I'm not going to ask you again. Don't touch me. Don't touch me, motherfucker. Who the fuck is this? You put your hands on me, sir. You put your hands on me, sir. Oh, god. Damn, dude. You shoved that camera into my face, sir. This one one.

• 58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what was that, Rob? What do we know about what happened there? Let me see if I can find the story. Because the guy's been put on leave, right? He's been put on leave since that happened. But think about how many topics are out there that you can ask somebody of that causes this level of sensitivity where this guy, let me read the story. An Ohio State professor who was recently hired to help advance speech and civil discourse, civil discourse,

• 58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  is now on administrative leave after assaulting a documentarian on campus. University officials confirmed Wednesday. On Monday evening, Luke Perez, an assistant professor affiliated with OSU, legislatively mandated Salmon Beach A Center for Civics, Culture and Society invited E. Gordon G. to speak to his profiles in American Leadership Class. And what happened there? What happened to go a little bit lower, but after G spoke to the class in the building, DJ Barnes authored the local left-wing newsletter Rooster and Mike Newman, a local documentarian, intercepted G as he exited a public restroom. They began asking him questions about his awareness of a campus doctor's sexual abuse of,

• 59:19Patrick Bet-David?

  oh wow, of student athletes during his presidency. His recent defense of Leslie Wexner, a billionaire and former board chair of OSU, whose communication with convicted sex offender Epstein are under scrutiny and his decision to sell OSU parking lot to a private equity firm. That's what it was questioned about. Very, very interesting. How? Can you imagine how deep these stories are? That a professor is going wild over a reaction like this? And by the way, in a minute here, when Alex comes back, a clip came out about what happened in Canada. And I'm going to play this clip before Alex is coming up.

• 1:00:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, Alex is coming up, so I'll have him watch this because he shared it earlier this morning. And again, for those of you guys that are watching, send a Menech to Alex. Any questions, any thoughts? You can officially. Oh, real demon possession. We're going to go to that, but I want to ask you the question first. First administration, President Trump fired a lot of people. Mooch got fired within 10 days. Nearly 40 people he appointed got fired. Turnover was 43%. Now turnover is in the 20s. He's not firing people. Why is he not firing people?

• 1:00:59Speaker 07

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• 1:01:31Speaker 03

  I've got a good idea about that, but I didn't answer your question from 30 minutes ago. So I should probably answer that first because it answers this question.

• 1:01:40Speaker 03

  You asked me, if we were giving Trump advice, what should it be about Epstein? And I really did answer your question, but I didn't explain it right. The answer is you can't tell him things, he doesn't listen. I mean, he's gotten to that point now where he would listen to certain people. And if you could give him facts, he would change his mind. And he's gotten to the point where that's not the case. And now if someone just kisses his ass, and by that, it's not that he even wants the attention. If they don't argue with him,

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  then they can just stay around as long as they just tell him what he wants to hear. Because he is beyond confident. I mean, at 79, he's just... And so I wish we could get Trump to be a little bit more retrospective about that and listen to people that have only given him good advice in the past. He needs to fire Bondi, he needs to fire Blanch, he needs to bring in hardcore people. I mean, look, if you're not going to indict the Epstein thing because it's old and a mess and we get all that, not that I agree with it, but I get the logic. I understand the thought process. I think it's a mistake. I predicted you'd make the mistake because I knew about your advisors. But we need a bunch of Ilhan Omar indictments. It's cut and dry. We need real deep state indictments, people like Comey and Brennan and Clapper. The public wants justice and instead we haven't seen any of that.

• 1:02:54Speaker 03

  And going back to his first administration, Trump was really hands on in the minutia. And he was checking on what people were saying, he was checking on what they were doing. I think he had more energy back then and he focused a lot more, at least at first, on that. Then they came in and started calling everybody, he was bringing in Russian agents. They got rid of Flynn and Bannon and others. So they kind of paralyzed Trump because he really only fired folks that first year, if you remember, until the end that he fired again. So they paralyzed him with the Russiagate and putting him on defense and things. And then COVID as a big distraction brought out it. They would basically brag as a way to derail his recovery and take back globalist control. They called it disease X and how they would get you in control through that.

• 1:03:37Speaker 03

  It's called the Operation Lockstep plan from 15 years ago. They implemented, you know, basically as COVID, but that's a whole nother issue. So that's that answer. What was the other ones?

• 1:03:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, about why he's not firing.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:03:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  So.

• 1:03:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Why he's not firing people?

• 1:03:51Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't know specifically that's, I know pieces of it.

• 1:03:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, he replaced Waltz. Waltz went from, you know, one position to another position. That's not a fire. You're moving somebody, right? To kind of save face with media. But there's a lot of people that Trump 1.0 would have fired that he's not doing today. Why?

• 1:04:12Speaker 03

  I don't know the answer to that question. What do you think?

• 1:04:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it media? Is it controlling the point of contact? Is it?

• 1:04:19Speaker 03

  Oh, I've been told exactly. No, yeah. I've been told by the White House, they say he doesn't want to have the embarrassment of someone being fired. He thinks that legitimizes that there's a scandal that they've done that's wrong. And so, yeah, that's his main reason. I mean, you just answered your question for you. Yes, Trump doesn't, he thinks it's bad publicity to fire people. There you go.

• 1:04:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:04:39Speaker 03

  Which, which again, you got to fire Lutnik. He's a likable guy. He's really great economy. He did move in next to Epstein. He said he went over to his house with his wife. He goes, there's a massage table. We give really good massages, the right kind. They were creeped out, never talked to him again. Now we learn, oh, there was this meeting and that meeting and talking to him about his nanny he wanted to hire. And then go into his island with his kids. But it's just for lunch for the day. Yeah, right. So it's because of the lying, he's got to go. But Trump's like, that's my friend. Plus, it likely we've done something wrong. No, the public wants to see action. And then go fry some Democrats for what they've done. Hillary Clinton's head of her foundation was convicted of human trafficking kids out of Haiti.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  You can't swing a stick in the dark and with the Clinton not hit real Jeffrey Epstein's. Ghislaine Maxwell is on record with the founding money for the Bill. Emily the Gates Foundation heavily involved there, but but but mainly with this open C U N treaty. And even bigger, helping set up the Clinton Global Initiative. So, so, I mean, the Clintons and the Democrats and all these people. They're all the people. So again, I know I keep ranting. It just makes me so mad to watch Trump doing this.

• 1:05:51Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story. El Paso. Um, shutting down the airport till February 28th. At first. They told us it was because of a, what did they see? They did Mexican cartel drones. The clips came out, Rob, if you want to play this clip. These are the clips that we've seen. You see the clips up top? Apparently those are drones. Some people questioning whether they're drones or not. Some people want to know if he is using his favorite weapon that they use in Venezuela. You know which one I'm talking about? He calls it the what? This combobulator? You know, what is going on here, Alex, with El Paso? We haven't shut down the airport since nine 11 and it was shut down for two days.

• 1:06:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's nine 11 and now you're shutting down 10 days for drones?

• 1:06:40Speaker 03

  Well, we know that's down there by Joint Task Force Six and it was our own. Brianna Morello over at Infowars that actually broke this early yesterday morning. She's she is a Pentagon liaison for to the Pentagon. Uh, and when she called and they said, you know, we really can't make a comment. Uh, and then she first got the news that, yeah, it was Mexican drones. And then now we know they're doing a drill. They've admitted an anti-drone attack training. And to do that, you've got to have really an active airport. You've got to have it really in an active zone. When you're there in El Paso, it's in the middle of the city. You know, it's all surrounded. It's right around the border. But it's not really overall a lie at the end of the day because every week now, they're having drones come up into El Paso.

• 1:07:21Speaker 03

  They're having drones harass the border patrol and, and, and the army and Marines that are down there now. The Marines are, are in some areas of the border. And so it's technically, from what we've seen, not true that this was a drone attack. And obviously that big line of bigger drones. Uh, although that's the drone protection grid that they've got on ground and in air. They've got a bunch of new systems. Uh, Israel has some really powerful ones too, but whatever you're being shown is not the really good stuff they've got. And so from what I've been told and from our sources, uh, they're, they're, they're doing at least a 10 day drill uh, on controlling that airspace and that they're going to be launching their own simulated attacks uh, by cartels or by even foreign governments or terrorists for, for control. And that Trump then wants to get the money.

• 1:08:04Speaker 03

  It's just pretty inexpensive comparatively to put up drone defense network systems over every, uh, city. And that's, that's the lower level integration to the higher level anti-missile defense system, Golden Dome.

• 1:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But shutting it out for 10 days to do that? Shutting it out for 10 days? That's a little weird to shut it down for 10 days, no?

• 1:08:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're doing a lot of training. They're doing a lot of drills there. I mean, I'm not defending it. And, and, and I mean, here's the deal. There are real border patrol reports, like just a week or so ago down by El Paso. Remember drones came across? They were, they were shooting everybody. I mean, it's going hot zone down there. And so I have no doubt that who knows? They probably are getting intelligence of the cartels. They're probably are getting ready to use, probably getting ready to use it as a forward airbase to strike cartels. But you got to put a drone defense base up first. Cause you know, they've got drones across the border and even artillery and missile launchers. So you were in the military. So if, if Trump's getting ready to hit the cartels out, out, out of joint task force six is the forward base. And you know, those other camps, um, what are they down there? It's like, uh, bigs, uh, you know, the rest of it.

• 1:09:08Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how much you know about the weapon that he talked about at Venezuela? Rob, you had that clip of, uh, when the president was talking about, you know, the weapons they use? I can't talk about it, but he gave a little bit of insight. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:09:20Speaker 15

  Talked about the weapon, the discombobulator.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  It was discombobulator, well, I'm not allowed to talk about it.

• 1:09:25Speaker 15

  But what does it do?

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  Let me just tell you, you know what it does? None of their equipment works, that's what it does. Everything was dis-

• 1:09:32Speaker 15

  How does it-

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  It was my name, I'm very proud of the name. Everything was discombobulated, it was, you know, practically a shot wasn't, you know, they were ready.

• 1:09:42Speaker 15

  Right.

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  And when we came, they couldn't do it.

• 1:09:45Speaker 15

  You saw this on the video, you could tell.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Tom, it discombobulated everything.

• 1:09:50Speaker 15

  Nothing worked, even, including humans.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  Well, let's put it this way. We lost no equipment in a very strong, and they're good fighters, great fighters. In a very bad environment, it was a military base. The biggest in South America. In a very, because the house was in a base in South, in a very, very tough environment, we lost no men and we lost-

• 1:10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You pause the right there, Rob. What do you know, what do we know about this weapon?

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  There are all sorts of classes. Remember, we always hear about the Havana syndrome. Yep. And they say it's not true, but they caught the Russians at our embassies in Germany and stuff, shooting them with radiation, you know, back in the 60s. So, this stuff goes on forever, then they deny it exists, but there are all sorts of microwave gun weapons, there's also all sorts of systems that are special frequencies of sound, that are either ultra-high or ultra-low, generally this would be ultra-low, but generally those would be localized. When Trump talks about it, he has his science czar talk about, we've taken control of matter and time and space, they have a lot of theoretical physics systems where you, over a wide area,

• 1:11:01Speaker 03

  can create an effect that the Germans in World War II discovered, that dealt with antigravity. The problem was, when you turned on this effect, they have different names for it, it would make everybody completely nauseous, and if you kept turning it, it'll kill people. So that's why they were waiting with antigrav, they need computers and robots, because it doesn't affect silicon. Yeah, there's the Nazi bell, and it was the Glock, and all those effects. So, that's what you're talking about. So it's a whole area of physics. They've also got- Different type of particle beams that you can just aim from space. People call it space lasers, make a joke out of it, it's not a joke. A laser itself is just light.

• 1:11:45Speaker 03

  But if you have a particle beam with a particle accelerator or a cyclotron on it, be a small one or a large one, you, you, you, you take a bunch of heavy, uh, you know, ions, heavy particles like uranium or plutonium that themselves are, are, whatever, aren't going to explode in, in a chain reaction, but have such weight to them, they're going to explode, uh, just with a kinetic force and, and, and cause it's little mini chain reactions when they hit things. So you just, and then the beam fires, and it, and it, you know, gets all the ions and then, and, and so we mostly don't science fiction movies, but, but that's how it works. And so now they've got stuff where they can fire similar things to that,

• 1:12:26Speaker 03

  but it, it has a resonance and like a vibration and they can add that to these interdimensional fields they've got and fire that through it and then just dissolve things. So it, it's, I mean, the air force wanted to threaten the Russians and Chinese about sixteen, seventeen years ago. So they had a press conference and said it was an accident. Remember how Putin showed the submarine with the missiles that create the tidal waves and all that on accident and they let you see it?

• 1:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:12:50Speaker 03

  Uh, and, and, and the air force said, look, we have antimatter weapons, but we can't test them, you know, but we theoretically know that we can, we can already blow the whole planet up. So if you think what we had in the forties was powerful, imagine what we got now.

• 1:13:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. By the way, have you ever done any sound effects for Hollywood for movies? You would kill it. Have you ever done it?

• 1:13:06Speaker 03

  You know, I-

• 1:13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you ever done any sound-

• 1:13:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, you know, before Obama came along, I never tried to get in, in, in that. And then people said, hey, you want to do a voiceover for this? So they, they Taft Hartley, my, my voice is out right now, I can do better ones. But that, you know, Taft Hartley is when they put you in movies and stuff, you're automatically on the Screen Actors Guild. And so I got to where, right as Obama got in, uh, I had some voiceovers because I was in the Screen Actors Guild where it was being aired on TV over and over again. I would get like five hundred thousand dollar checks.

• 1:13:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop.

• 1:13:35Speaker 03

  Like one ad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. I swear to God. And then they found out, wait a minute, you don't like Obama. So then they, I got blackballed and, and, and no more jobs.

• 1:13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So give me one of the examples of what you did. Like what cartoon did you do it for?

• 1:13:49Speaker 03

  I mean, I did, I did movies, cartoons.

• 1:13:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously?

• 1:13:52Speaker 03

  What I, what I got paid the most for was like insurance company ads.

• 1:13:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, did you know this?

• 1:13:55Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:13:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I had no clue. Insurance company ads?

• 1:13:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've done like- Whatever the names were. Here it's mutual.

• 1:14:06Speaker 03

  But you got the voice of God too, is what they call it. No, no, but, but even though my voice is, I, I can give you some of the voice of God. Voice of God is like any of that big, like a, "Return the map. Return what you have stolen. You're in grave danger." So that's like from Time Bandits. Uh, I can do, uh...

• 1:14:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's great.

• 1:14:25Speaker 03

  Autobots. Autobots, transform and roll out. Megatron, prepare to die. Megatron.

• 1:14:35Speaker 03

  But, but, but, but if I wasn't sick, I could do better. And here's Darth Vader. "If you only knew the power of the dark side. Join me and I will complete your training."

• 1:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Wow.

• 1:14:48Speaker 03

  I can do, uh, but like if I have an insurance company ad or like a stock ad, it was like, I should, it was the financial ones I got paid a lot. Cause I forget that one, it was, uh, End of America. And it was like selling all sorts of financial stuff and instruments and it, it was like, it was like, "Experts believe the end of, you know, and there's all this stuff." And, and, and, and I, I used to see it, I'd be in restaurants or bars and the ad was on.

• 1:15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I had no idea, but I listened to your voice, I'm like, dude, this guy's so animated. Okay, let's go to the next story. You posted something this morning about the trans shooter, killer in Canada. This 18-year-old trans shooter murdered at least 10 people at Tumblr, Ritz School, yesterday. And you said, "Demon possession is real." Folks, this video is very disturbing. Go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause the clip. When is this from? What do we know about this?

• 1:16:07Speaker 03

  This is two years ago. I'll explain it all, but here's the more important part. I had like a member of parliament on like 20 years ago from the UK and he was explaining they're targeting mentally ill and autistic kids for this to sterilize them. Plus, they know a certain percent will go crazy, but we should play the rest of it. And so instead of putting this kind of mental institution or whatever, who's having psychotic outbursts, talking about killing people. I mean, that's what psychotic mania looks like. They, they take them and put them on drugs that totally whack them out. Then they get depressed. They put them on serotonin reuptit inhibitors that say on the insert caused mass murder and suicide, suicidal radiations. So it's a cocktail, but if you look at the shooter in Minnesota,

• 1:16:51Speaker 03

  he's on the same video with the weapons going, "I'm gonna kill him Satan." And it's almost all of them are literally devil worshippers. And you can say, "Well, it's not real." Well, then why the hell does it keep manifesting? And what I've been told by the experts about the Satanism is when they drink the blood and do all the stuff. That's why the Joker acts like that the Joker. Hollywood knows this stuff. They're showing you someone that, that kid has been sitting there smiling and demonically smiling and laughing so long. If you look, he's demon possessed. That's literally a demon. You can see his face is all red, the Joker look. And that's what I was told by Ted Gunderson. Lots of you told me he wouldn't say on air. He said, "No, in their lore, the face of the Joker is the face they make when they're killing people. And they'll do it so long when they're chewing up babies and drinking blood

• 1:17:37Speaker 03

  that the face turns red and does the Joker look." And then on the kids, they rape and rape and rape for days on end. They get what they call the panda eyes. And so these are real, real things that happen. So this kid's probably been, this is, this is, this is, this is ancient every culture where it's the energy of the demon coming into him and he's like,

• 1:17:58Speaker 03

  And he's thinking about mass murder right here. So I've studied this. I know this sounds crazy. But you can go find almost all these trans shooters. And their dads always worked for the NSA, or they always worked for the top DARPA company. And you know, and it's, you know.

• 1:18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh shit.

• 1:18:12Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, and both crooks parents, special behavioral psychology, they're all in BlackRock ads and, and. But it's the same MO, and they'll just have their guns and go, "Kill them, murder them, soon Satan." And it's, this is it.

• 1:18:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:18:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. And by the way, what do we know so far about what's going on with Canada?

• 1:18:31Speaker 03

  Well, all they say is it does not matter. Both the police chief and the regional police chief said that what matters is we do not misgender her. This is a woman. And they say that that is what's the most important in the speeches.

• 1:18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What did they say? They said woman is in a dress? Rob, do you have that clip? Yep. There's a, there's a clip. And then also if you can show the stats of the school shooting or the mass shooting you're hearing, you're seeing.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  It's Omaha.

• 1:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  The trans.

• 1:18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, uh.

• 1:18:57Speaker 03

  Type in police. Police don't want to misgender Canadian shooter. I can find it. There's a, there's like, like the regional police.

• 1:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that it?

• 1:19:10Speaker 03

  This is one. There's one even worse. Yeah, go ahead.

• 1:19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit, Rob. Start from the beginning. Go ahead. That includes the deceased gun person.

• 1:19:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Gun person. Gun person is what he's calling it.

• 1:19:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, this one's pretty bad, but that's not, there's a long one. Yeah, there it is. This one right here.

• 1:19:29Speaker 16

  Female, uh, by the name, so a suspect is identified as an 18-year-old female, uh, by the name of Jessie. Uh, we have a history of police attendance, uh, at the family residence. Um, some of those calls are, are, were, pardon me, related to mental health issues.

• 1:19:47Speaker 17

  We've heard all around the world, uh, reports coming out through the media, not the full of world. And we've heard people from Tamaur Ridge, actually people that know the shooter. And they are all saying that this person is transgender. Why is the RCF not speaking? Because why are we hiding this from them?

• 1:20:04Speaker 16

  Well, first off, thank you for your question. We're not hiding it. In fact, you're the first media to ask the question. I will say this. We identify the suspect as they chose to be identified in public and in social media. I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male, who approximately, the information that I have, approximately 60 years ago began to transition to female and identified as female, both socially and publicly.

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  Gun person. But see, it doesn't matter that just killed 10 people. It's we need to get it right. Well, what did they chose to identify as a potted plant?

• 1:20:42Speaker 03

  Or an Apache helicopter?

• 1:20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and apparently the uncle was interviewed or asked, and they said, "Yeah, he is a trans." You know, you know, there is that interrupt. Can you pull up the-

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  We should finish the video, though. It's more, you need to see the whole, the whole demon possession.

• 1:20:57Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll go back to the video, but can you pull up the trans stats? On what percentage of the shooters? We talked about it.

• 1:21:03Speaker 03

  You take gang-related out, it's almost all of them now.

• 1:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, did you, did you? Is this the one, Rob? Yep. Yeah, that one to the right. Mass shooting rates by demo. 2015 to 2025. Public incidents with four or more fatalities. Trans non-binary biological male. .769. Trans non-binary biological female, .667. Then Asian men, black men, white men, Asian women, Hispanic men.

• 1:21:34Speaker 03

  Let me just stop you. You know what they call it in Europe and here now? When you see Asian men, that's not Japanese men or South Koreans, it's Muslims. So they call Muslims Asian men?

• 1:21:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta be kidding me.

• 1:21:46Speaker 03

  No, that's the Asian rape gangs.

• 1:21:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta be kidding me.

• 1:21:48Speaker 03

  Asian rape gangs.

• 1:21:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I was about to say, why are Asians on this?

• 1:21:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, so, all the time they say when there's a murder or something, that it's a white guy, even though when the mugshot, it's a black guy. The way they do that to cover it for Muslims is they call them Asian men. If they are Pakistani or Muslim Indian or any of that. Or Arabic.

• 1:22:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you check to see if somebody in Grok asked, "What does Asian man mean?", and if it doesn't, you ask, and then if you can play that clip-

• 1:22:14Speaker 03

  Look up, what are Asian grooming gangs? It's the same thing.

• 1:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, no, I'm trying to find out how that chart put Asian man and Asian woman. That's what I want to know. We know about the Asian grooming gang. We know about the Pakistani. We know about the inbreeding. I want to know what they mean by Asian man.

• 1:22:33Speaker 03

  Oh, you're right.

• 1:22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What demo?

• 1:22:34Speaker 03

  Good question.

• 1:22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What demo do you mean? Does it mean Asian men when they say Asian men? Yeah, that's fine. I am so curious. Well, it's gonna take a minute.

• 1:22:48Speaker 03

  Well, you can, I don't know, Rob knows this yet, but you can separately ask everybody or ask it what demographic has the lowest violent crime. It'll tell you Asians in general. So how is it suddenly Asian men are up at the middle? It's it and that and it that that that I believe is like in Europe, it's coming over. It's what they call it.

• 1:23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go back to the clip of the guy, the shooter. For us to see the ending of that clip is disturbing, but if you can go back to it. If if you just go on Alex's Twitter account, you'll see it.

• 1:23:14Speaker 03

  Real Alex shows.

• 1:23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Go for it and go to 30 seconds.

• 1:23:22Speaker 03

  (laughing) Put his first arm up to harm him. I'm gonna make him even more psychotic and give him a gun.

• 1:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable. This can be prevented, but it's all politics. They can't, they can't stop.

• 1:23:57Speaker 03

  They take these people that are already autistic and give them the worst possible stuff. And I'm sure they'll probably blame this on Mossad soon and, you know, because, you know, the Charlie Kirk's killer, you know, there's no, there's no trans people killing anybody. It's all Mossad.

• 1:24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to that. Tyler Robinson, the roommate, the furry roommate, boyfriend, whatever you want to call it. I don't know if you saw this or not. He was found in Dallas. Do you have that story, Rob? If you want to find what happened there with Tyler, I'm sure you got some thoughts. What's going on there?

• 1:24:24Speaker 03

  I mean, I saw it, but recap it for the viewers.

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Uh, what is the latest? What is the latest you know of what's going on there with the individual that killed Charlie Kirk?

• 1:24:33Speaker 03

  Well, the reason I ask, I saw this last night about, you know. Quietly living in Texas and I mean I from all I've seen it looks like an accomplice. Why aren't they being charged? What do you think?

• 1:24:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Trans lover of Charlie Kirk alleged assassin spotted after going into hiding. Moving out of state go a little bit lower Rob. A little bit lower. The trans lover of Charlie Kirk's assassin quietly Texas six months after his partner charged for shooting. Uh, right winger influencer. Is this New York Post?

• 1:25:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:25:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm like, interesting that New York Post writes it that way. Lance Twigs with authorities referred to use in male pronouns has fled his hometown of St. George. Twigs 22 spotted with long unkempt hair a Taco Bell T-shirt go a little bit lower. Is that the same furry guy?

• 1:25:18Speaker 03

  That's the original photo of.

• 1:25:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go a little bit lower.

• 1:25:21Speaker 03

  So now he's, he's back to being a man.

• 1:25:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He's back to being a man. He's going to Taco Bell. Is it Taco Bell or Del Taco?

• 1:25:28Patrick Bet-David?

  What is he at the top? That is a Taco Bell?

• 1:25:30Speaker 03

  Taco Bell.

• 1:25:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Taco Bell. Alright, I don't know how I feel about that. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower Rob, even lower. Anything else? Twigs has not been charged with crime authorities indication. Okay, where are you at now? It's been months since the shooting. You know, to me, he was number one draft pick. I don't think anybody was above Charlie. Charlie was the most important player in the conservative Republican movement, movement long-term 60 years. They took out the number one draft pick. Knowing what we've seen and read, what do you think's going on?

• 1:26:02Speaker 03

  Well, let's look at Tyler Robinson. Everybody saw the mugshot of him if you scroll up. And you know, he looks like a pretty normal guy. Uh, but as soon as

• 1:26:14Speaker 03

  I saw him in court and watched the 25 minutes of it, he was wearing the trans tie. He was laughing. He was looking really psychotic and you know, there was this lie that, oh, he's such a nice young boy. And then, and then you have his family that turned him in and they're, they're crying behind him. And then you have all these leftists in the town saying, when Charlie comes here in a few days, he's going to be dead. And then as soon as the shot fired, a bunch of liberals go yay, great job and stand up while everybody else is running. Uh, and then you've got this famous leftist activist down there saying, oh, I shot him and he told the police I did it so that so our guy could get away. That was coordinated. That's, that's, that's where the help is. But Cash Patel

• 1:26:57Speaker 03

  killed, and I confirm this with people that were in the room, any investigation into accomplices. And, and his argument to TPUSA was, and I talked to high level only with that. Well, we don't think we can get those convictions. This is open and shut. So if we widen this, it'll make it too hard. No, it makes it believable. Plus, it's justice that we that we roll up this network of trans killers. They said we're gonna kill him. They six of them. Well, ten total, six the days before said, we're gonna kill him when he comes here. Within minutes, they said, see, he's dead. We told you. He had all these helpers there in the crowd. And then by limiting it and not bringing the stuff out. It it it allows people to push the idea that, you know, somebody else did it, which which I have seen some weird stuff happen.

• 1:27:42Speaker 03

  There was a lot of bizarreness that day. I'm not saying it shouldn't be investigated, but overwhelmingly. We have these trans people out killing folks, evidence of what we just saw in Canada. And in the last year, every. Confrontation I've had at a restaurant or on a hiking bike trail or on the streets of DC that we caught on tape. Is a trans person and they never looked like actually a real woman. They look like some crazy dude with sunken eyes with bozo, the clown hair. Comes over and threatens to kill me. And a guy in DC say, ah, Charlie Kirk's gone. He got it. You're next. And he's going around me super fast in one of those mono wheel things, whatever those things are you stand on. Yes. And he's going like thirty miles an hour, almost hitting twenty five miles an hour, almost hitting people and slooping it out of traffic and coming back around me and threatening us.

• 1:28:27Speaker 03

  And I've had another one in a restaurant. I was working late, about ten o'clock, pulling by myself. I go in the restaurant. I'm sitting there eating. This trans guy jumps up and says, get him out of here. Screw you, Alex shows. We're gonna get you. And they ended up grabbing him and dragging him out. And I said, I'm still getting my food to go and left. I'm in on the hiking bike trail, had one of them come and say, we hope you and your family die. So I personally. They all think we're hurting them. They all think we're, you know, that they're unhappy because of us. No, you're unhappy because you you're you're taking on a bunch of dangerous hormones in a weird cult. Uh, and so just anecdotally, do I believe this guy killed Charlie Kirk? You bet your ass he was at least there. You bet your ass he's he's he's on video going through the hallways, you know, down the, you know, down down the stairs.

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  And people like, oh, no, you know, that's not him. He's a good boy. Or other people make an AI composite of him. People go, oh, that's AI. So all of it's fake. Well, we'll see. I know the government's corrupt. I know they put on show trials. I've been through a couple of them, but I really find it hard to believe they've got his family and everybody else and all the rest of it. And then he comes in with his trans tie, looking like a Jeffrey Dahmer 2.0. So, um, I don't know if you pulled up the footage of Tyler Robinson in court, and it's pretty creepy. I mean, he...

• 1:29:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the trans tie?

• 1:29:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You said trans.

• 1:29:44Speaker 03

  That's, that's the trans colors. That's the trans tie.

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• 1:30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. So he's representing?

• 1:30:46Speaker 03

  Absolutely. I mean, that's, that's the exact color, the exact stitching of it.

• 1:30:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see the George Zinn guy? What happened to him? The guy that stood up and walked up? Did you see the story about him?

• 1:30:56Speaker 03

  No. Oh, he got busted for...

• 1:30:58Patrick Bet-David?

  A man who falsely claimed he killed Charlie Kirk is sentenced to prison?

• 1:31:02Speaker 03

  Oh, no. I didn't know that.

• 1:31:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you pull up that story? Is this it? Okay. Go a little bit lower. Okay, so a man who falsely claimed, confessed to shooting the late Charlie Kirk last year will face up to 15 years in prison for pleading guilty to sexual exploitation of a minor and obstruction of justice. George Zinn, 71, claimed to have shot Charlie Kirk. Zinn was arrested later, admitted that he was hoping to hinder the investigation by giving false information to the police and diverting officers who could have secured the scene or searching the actual shooter. What's a little weird about this, Rob? I think people forgot this clip. A lot of people. Go back to the clip where the moment Charlie gets shot, he starts walking towards it.

• 1:31:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You remember this?

• 1:31:50Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  When that happened?

• 1:31:53Patrick Bet-David?

  The moment he got shot, there's a video. It's funny that you can't find it. It should be easy. Walk, I would say, stands up. Uh, that's amazing that this video was so easy to find.

• 1:32:07Speaker 05

  I have it.

• 1:32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you have it?

• 1:32:09Speaker 05

  I think I have it archived.

• 1:32:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, we've shown it before. We've shown it before.

• 1:32:13Speaker 05

  Here, right here.

• 1:32:16Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:32:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He just gets up. And he puts his hands up. That quick of a reaction.

• 1:32:26Speaker 03

  Instant. He goes, "I'm ready."

• 1:32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Quick of a reaction. You think he wasn't on it? You think he knew anything?

• 1:32:32Speaker 03

  Absolutely. And he's famous for doing, showing up at other big horrible events and doing key things like this. A defendant intelligence operative. Turns out he's got cancer, I was hearing. So this is probably like, you know, his deal to get some money for his family or whatever. But the point is, is that, is that there was all sorts of weirdness like this going on that day.

• 1:32:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So, how far are you following the story with Candace and Erica Kirk?

• 1:32:53Speaker 03

  Oh, I followed it.

• 1:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about that?

• 1:32:58Speaker 03

  I think Erica Kirk, obviously is a theater kid. And, and, and so her way of coping with this was to get up there and, you know, really put on a big show. That's what TPUSA does. Look at their Super Bowl halftime was amazing. Better than, way better than the Super Bowls. Um, it was like, wow, this is really good. I don't usually like watching rock and roll or anything on TV. I like to be there in person. Um, so people saw all the big pageant tree after he died. They thought, well, this looks like she's not sad. No, that's, that's her putting on a good face, going out and doing it. And I'm not defending everything about TPUSA. I'm not paid by them. I've been at a few of their events and spoke. When I've defended, you know, TPUSA, they go, "Oh, you must be working for them." No.

• 1:33:35Speaker 03

  Um, I know that, I know that Candace, uh, had the, um, bligs it. And they were going to use that for the, you know, rigs it stuff.

• 1:33:50Speaker 03

  And that they bought her company. And then I know that she got upset about that. And I know that she was also mad about Charlie for some other things.

• 1:34:00Speaker 03

  And so, the internet, it was a huge sensation questioning whether there was other shooters, whatever, and we also covered it, lots of weird anomalies, like the bullet going in the neck and not going out the back, I'm gonna give you a break. So, we have questions, I mean, I think it should be investigated, but I'm, to say that TPUSA killed him, and then the Egyptians, then the Israelis, then French intelligence, and then their secret meetings at Fort Wachukah, and they, and the guy was at Fort Wachukah, we never said he wasn't, he was acting weird and they detained him. But the point is, everybody else has alibis that they weren't there at some meeting the day before planning his murder, it's not how it works anyways. And, and, and, and so, I looked up the guy they had as a witness, and he was like, famous

• 1:34:40Speaker 03

  con man, named Mitch Noe, who said, he'd already raised money before, saying, "My wife stole my son and beat me in the hands, broke my feet with hammers, and locked me in the garage as a prisoner, and you know, all this stuff, wouldn't let me," and then meanwhile, he was convicted of that, and then his ex-wife just released the footage to everybody, of him tapping the keys to the car, and him attacking with the hammer, and him breaking the doors. And, and, and I'm just like, Candace, you cannot have this guy say he's at Fort Wachukah, and he sees all these people, and then, and then, she goes, "Was this person there?" Erica's old boyfriend, she goes, "Yes, him too, and was this person there?"

• 1:35:23Speaker 03

  So it's kinda like, you just mail order to like, call DoorDash, and anybody you want to be in on this master plan meeting to murder, and as soon as we said it, she goes, "Oh, I'm not saying they're planning to murder him there." Well, that's what all your surrogates are saying, so, I've known Candace Owens since she basically showed up on the political scene, and her first thing was a way to rat out and, and dox conservatives, and how women could go out and even date guys to set them up. That's kinda what the Left's doing now, you hear them say, "Go out and date guys to set them up." That should've been a red flag, but then the Left that she was involved in were false flagging her, posing as white supremacists to bully her, to think she was being stalked so she'd sign her program over to them. So that's the Left just all, jussie-smalating each other. She comes on my show, seemed pretty nice and everything, and that was like, 10, 11

• 1:36:08Speaker 03

  years ago, whatever it was, I forget, 10 years ago, I forget, and then she just goes through this whole process where she's at TPUSA, and then she's at the Daily Wire, and, you know, all, all this stuff happens, and she's done some good work, but... Now it's gotten to where she's like, I'm here in Tennessee and I grew up in Connecticut and I've never seen the ice, you know, on, on the trees not melt. It's 30 degrees. Why isn't it melting? And I just went on there and commented, will ice melts at above 32 degrees? And, and then they all attacked me and said, you're wrong. It can melt at any temperature she says. And then I even had one of her co-hosts was over at my studio, someone else's show, and I made a joke to him and all I said, so if Candace says ice

• 1:36:49Speaker 03

  is, uh, you know, melts at, at, at 30 degrees. He said, it, he goes, it does. It does melt at that. And I went, he goes, and I said, well, it, I said, if it's salt water, it can. And he was like, exactly. It's just like, I mean, it, it, it has reached his cuckoo level now where, where, where, what's gonna happen is now that we've woken up so many people that weren't that smart, but they, but now it's so obvious the government and media is lying to them. Now they just think they can go choose whatever reality they want. You understand? And so the new thing is you're gonna have people that serve the globalists, people that fight the globalists, try to build a new future, and those that just believe the earth is flat, uh, that believe I'm a clone, uh, that just believe everything's a fraud, uh, they don't think nuclear weapons are real, uh, they don't

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  think satellites are real.

• 1:37:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's one question, here's one question about Candace.

• 1:37:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Is if somebody said to Trump, what Candace is saying about Erica Kirk, Trump would have sued him and put him out of business. Okay? She just came out, I think one of the girls this morning was telling me, I don't know who it was.

• 1:37:56Speaker 03

  She says Erica needs to be arrested.

• 1:37:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So you say something like that, I just saw this this morning, you say something like that, why isn't Erica Kirk in Turning Point years?

• 1:38:06Speaker 03

  Listen, if Erica, if Erica gets killed by a nut now, it'll be a, it'll be a false flag by Mossad. You see how it works? No matter what Candace does, she's insulated now. It's never her fault. Yeah. I mean, I, I believe Candace, it, it.

• 1:38:18Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's defamation, that's a defamation lawsuit.

• 1:38:21Speaker 03

  Well, I don't wanna be mean to Candace, but I've looked in her eyes. I've watched her carefully. You can see the look. I think she's gone in like a megalomania. And, and I think her husband, I said this months ago, he needs to intervene. I don't mean to shut her down or stop her, but he, she needs to, she needs to go to, and they go, oh, that's how the Soviet Union controls people, it's sending way to no, I'm saying, I believe she's mentally ill. And.

• 1:38:43Speaker 03

  And, and, and she has this total scorn and just wants to destroy TPUSA. And you're right. TPUSA is, was one of the game changers that got Trump elected. Two and a half million young people just for the last election. It, it, it's expanded some now, but it's gotten really tainted by this. And she's in there attacking their donors. She wants the whole thing burned down. And it, it is malicious for maliciousness sake. And she serialized all this made up crap. I mean, what they claimed I did with Sandy Hook? I never did any of that. This is what they claimed I did. We just serialized BS and monetize it. And, and I hate to be mean to Candace because I like her as a person. Think she's a, you know, a, a nice person in the past. But, but, but, but yeah, but, but notice that's Trump again.

• 1:39:28Speaker 03

  Cause Trump, it, it, Trump will sit there and watch his most key pillars of support vaporized. And, and, and, and not come in and support him. And I know TPUSA doesn't want to sue her. Listen, they have.

• 1:39:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Why, why don't they?

• 1:39:42Speaker 03

  They have non-compete stuff with her. They have their bligs it contract with her. You know, they have all this stuff, uh, because they don't want to escalate.

• 1:39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But if they that, don't they also have, um, where he can't, she can't defame them?

• 1:39:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, all of it.

• 1:39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So then if that's the case, if she's breaking it and you don't do anything, you're confusing the market. So there, there, there's two things. Say you don't do anything. A percentage of the market will say, what? Well, maybe she's right. Maybe they're afraid. So if you do something, then the market's going to say, let's see what happens. Here's a lawsuit. So to me, I don't follow this very closely right now.

• 1:40:24Speaker 03

  I don't either.

• 1:40:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I just get.

• 1:40:25Speaker 03

  I was, I just check on it.

• 1:40:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I get, uh, stuff that send my way and, you know, I, I follow the Macron stuff very closely. I thought she was doing a great job with that to see what happened. And we still don't know what happened there. But, you know, some of the stuff is very weird with Macron and the husband. But to me, if TPUSA doesn't take any action, she gains more credibility. Period. And if I'm Candace, Candace would say, well, if I'm wrong, sue me. Go ahead, sue me. That, that, that's a very interesting slippery slope. Trump would have stopped it a long time ago if this was taking place. I wonder why they're not.

• 1:41:03Speaker 03

  Well, speaking of that, I'd like to give you an update on what's happening with Infowars.

• 1:41:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:41:07Speaker 03

  Okay, because I've seen you guys cover it and you've been very overall fair, but I don't blame you not knowing because it would take years for you to know it all, okay? Because I didn't understand it until later in the process. So, 12, 13 years ago, a kid on a bunch of SSRIs, his mom buys a rifle. He goes reportedly shoots a bunch of kids at, at the school. I, in Connecticut, I don't ever say that it was staged for, I forget the exact number, like a year or something. Uh, professors in Florida and Wisconsin and a bunch of other places, they come out and they say they think it didn't happen. And then they start giving what their evidence is. It becomes this sensation on the internet, hundreds of millions of views, you know, some videos, per video on YouTube, you tens of millions.

• 1:41:51Speaker 03

  My listeners are demanding I have these guys on. So I have them on, I have them debate newspaper editors that think it did happen. And, and I probably did like, you know, 10 shows on it total over the years. They put into evidence suing me 22 minutes. Uh, and it was just me with a caller going, caller like, I think it's fake. And I go, I can see it's synthetic, yeah, fake. And then they, and then they would use that to then say I sent people to pee on their kids' graves and all this stuff that never happened, period. You understand, much less for me. And then Hillary runs 25 or 26 million dollars, whoever it was that had, the last month of the, the, the run in 2016, saying Trump says Alex Jones is amazing. Alex Jones says this never happened. And they show like a three second clip and he's saying synthetic fake. Then Trump wins. Well, then I didn't know what was happening.

• 1:42:36Speaker 03

  They start running, I'm not exaggerating, hundreds of articles a day, sometimes thousands. I get the Google alerts because it'd be like an AP article, be everywhere syndicated. Some days 33,000 articles, but it would be AP in 25,000 places. But I'd be on every channel, remember for months and months and years and years. Like they were invading a country and I didn't understand, well, they were running ads through, through these, uh, through these charities that were set up in association with Bloomberg and the families. Whenever you hear the families, there's 20 families. Six people from like a few couple of families are who sued me. I only said, I only ever said the name of one parent, okay? Under the law, you're not supposed to be able to sue somebody unless you said their name. So I didn't know what was happening until last year when we got the documents. People pointed it out where to find it. You know, Mike Benz type folks, not him, was in the public record.

• 1:43:21Speaker 03

  So I'm sitting there for like two years where they sue me. I haven't even talked about it in years before they sue me. I'm like, I think it happened. Stop saying I did this to you. They were running ads on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Where, where it, where it wasn't for gun control. It's Alex Jones attacking us. They're attacking our, us. We need money. So we later learned they raised it one charity, just run by two of the parents, three hundred million dollars off of my name over like a five year period. And it's, and directly off of me. Like they attacked me, the money goes for nothing. They, they sue me this, uh, the, the show trials happened, boom. We then learned that they, that the judge department would, would pay the Connecticut law firm

• 1:44:03Speaker 03

  one to two weeks before each time they would put their bill in each year. And then the judge department would give those exact, that exact charity, those couple of them, millions of dollars. We have all the screenshots off the federal websites, all this, okay? And there's a lawsuit being filed imminently, probably even today, finally, my civil rights lawsuit for all of this. So I, I didn't understand what's going on, like why I'm on every channel. I barely ever talked about this. I'm in restaurants, people are going, quit making your money off those kids. They're saying I made hundreds of millions off these kids. They're saying I have hundreds, I never made hundreds of millions. My company had made gross hundreds of millions, but that's like, you sell a water filter and you make thirty five percent on it. This guy sold ten thousand, ten million dollars of water filters. Yeah, we made three and a half million bucks and we advertising and crew. It's like, you know, you know, business.

• 1:44:47Speaker 03

  Say like, this company made sixty million this year. Yeah, about twenty million of it was genuine profit. You pay half a taxpayer employee, you know? So, so, but they're saying he's got hundreds of millions he made off these people. They're, they're telling the juries, but here's the key. They said I never gave them discovery. I gave them all the discovery, everything. It was made up that I didn't give them discovery. Then the judges find me guilty. It's called a default, which they did to Mike Lindell recently, last year. Mike Lindell said Smartmatic and Dominion were doing things that were wrong. They've since been indicted. They've since had to admit a lot of it. But you know what happened to Mike Lindell? Six months ago, the federal judge said you.

• 1:45:27Speaker 03

  I'm ruling, you can type this in, judge finds Mike Lindell guilty, Smartmatic. The judge said, I find you guilty, there's no way to access a Smartmatic remotely, or by the internet, even though it's built into them with phones. And so now he's going to tell a jury this year that Mike is guilty and the jury will rule against him. So that's default right there, okay? Judge rules, MyPillow guy Mike Lindell defamed Smartmatic with false claims. He was defaulted. But in this case, the judge didn't even say he didn't give him discovery. They don't want his discovery, it's all to prove he was right. They, the judge is finding that it's impossible because these machines cannot be accessed.

• 1:46:10Speaker 03

  They have cell phones built into them and ports plugged into them. We have famous cases in the elections where the Dominion and Smartmatic crews come in during the elections and plug in. Everybody knows that. So, so the point is, this fundamental lie, this is how they get you now. We need major reform over this default garbage. So both judges in Texas and in Connecticut find me guilty. They then have show trials after four years suing me, one month after the next, right before the midterms, okay? Last time before, twenty, right before 2024. No, no, 2022. And so I'm in there and there's lights and they're putting powder on the judge and the other people and, and the judge, you know, kicks the jury out and just cuts off the YouTube

• 1:46:52Speaker 03

  feed and says, now there's 20 things you can't say, you can't say you're innocent, you can't say you don't have 400 million, you know, all this stuff. And, and I'm like, and so people said, why aren't my lawyers defending me? She would then go have conferences behind the deal, not want to have a record of it, and tell them, I'll sanction you, I'll sanction you, you can't do this. So it was literally totally rigged. First I'm guilty, but now she's got to have the show trial where the jury's told I'm guilty, given false evidence. They put on days of evidence that I had 300 million dollars in the bank. The man never examined our files, it was just totally made up. He said our whole business model was different than it was. He talked like Thirst of the Hound the Third, wasn't even, and, and then the jury, we talked to him later, they go, well, since you got 360 million, we thought they deserved 10% of your money, I mean, you know, 40, 45 million.

• 1:47:37Speaker 03

  And meanwhile, I was negative in the bank then and had never made more than myself like eight million, ten million dollars a year. Okay, those are my best years ever. I needed it for legal fees anyways. So I'm just sitting here and the judge said those two days, you are not allowed to put on a defense. We had to sit there and say not one word why this guy just gets up there and makes up a complete-

• 1:47:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's this judge?

• 1:47:58Speaker 03

  Fantasyland. Uh, she's literally a, uh, you go to her Facebook, she supports, you know, anti for everything else. Her judge's name is, uh, Guera Gamble.

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• 1:49:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And Guera Gamble?

• 1:49:07Speaker 03

  Uh, Guera Gamble.

• 1:49:08Patrick Bet-David?

  There it is. Yeah, Guera Gamble.

• 1:49:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then she is literally, used to have like on her face with blue hair. And, uh-

• 1:49:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Her?

• 1:49:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's her. And-

• 1:49:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What do we know about her?

• 1:49:19Speaker 03

  Uh, in Texas, the judges are elected. She's literally financed by consortiums of Soros money. And, uh, she's just unbelievable. I mean, it's just, it's just unbelievable.

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So where's it at now?

• 1:49:31Speaker 03

  Well, listen, it gets worse. Then a few years later, they have, the HBO produced a documentary. Okay? So, so it's all scripted. I'm, I'm, I'm forced to be an actor in this. I understand until later I was, that's why I couldn't talk unless they said, couldn't say I was innocent. And she walks the red carpet at South by Southwest, well, this is the main premiere at the big giant movie theater with everyone clapping like she's a movie star. Judges aren't supposed to be in a movie about their own deal that they shoot during the trial and then walk the red carpet and be part of the event. That is unbelievable. Sorry, go ahead.

• 1:50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. Where is it at now? What I want to, how much have you paid? What can you disclose to us? What's next?

• 1:50:10Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, that's how the lie always works. He refuses to pay the families the families. Of the 20 families, only six people sued me. Never said the names of anybody but one person. And so they got a $45 million judgment in Texas. They got a $1.4 billion in Connecticut. The interest on it's like 600 million already. If you remember, they asked for 2.67 trillion or 2.76, what was it? Guys, type in Bloomberg. Sandy Hook families lawyers asked for over 2 trillion. And so, which is the GDP of India, and it's all about horrifying people. It's all about driving people into submission. So.

• 1:50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 1:50:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, 2.75 trillion, yeah, sorry.

• 1:50:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Sandy Hook families said a Connecticut judge should impose the highest possible punitive damages for Alex Jones suggesting by one calculation could be as high as 2.75 trillion. The US couldn't pay that. Countries couldn't pay that. Where did it come up with 2.75?

• 1:51:12Speaker 03

  The US couldn't pay that right now.

• 1:51:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Where did it come up with that number?

• 1:51:15Speaker 03

  They got up and said to the judges, in fact, there's another Bloomberg headline that says lawyers for the families asked for 2.75 trillion. So, so you ask where this is going? Ladies and gentlemen, it's worse than I'm saying because it's so, there's so much to say. They got me in conferences, the only reason I can say this because they said it outside of the mediations in Connecticut and Texas. And they said, if you just stop covering guns and stop supporting Trump and all this, we'll just drop all this. So, so this is all about pure harassment. They also have said they never want money. So they'll say in the news, they'll say in the news, we want money, we want money, we want money, he got all our money, he made money off us. That's not true. Don't have money to make money off them, they made 300 million off me fundraising, okay? And they got Justice Department money to fund their lawsuits.

• 1:52:00Speaker 03

  So, on top of it. And you've got all these other high-powered politicians involved. But. Now, if they set this precedent, which they're doing it to everybody, Giuliani defaulted, Mike Lindell defaulted, all vindicated, doesn't matter. They're gonna do this to everybody. This is their new thing. Where they default you, and then, and then, and then now, I literally have almost no money in the bank, under Texas law, to keep my house, my car, I don't care, that's fine. But I never had all this money, they said, and so they now... We have it on appeal, still, the state of Texas, the Supreme Court, Texas is gonna overturn it, because the stuff she did was crazy. Even though she found me guilty, and the jury agreed to that, she then, two weeks after

• 1:52:42Speaker 03

  the show trial, said, "I'm finding you guilty of elder abuse, because one of the parents is above 63 now, and I'm going to then bust the cap, it was like a half million dollars, to, so they could get to their 45 million." Well, she said, "I don't care what the Supreme Court..." She said, "In the ruling, I don't care what the Supreme Court says, I'm doing this." So, the Supreme Court has that, that's gonna get overturned, but I've already been to the Supreme Court on the Connecticut case, they refused to hear it. But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter, because in this case, you have serious conspiracy against rights, civil rights violations, where all these groups colluded. Remember when they said the Onion and Bloomberg, two years ago, or a year and a half ago, bought Infowars, and it was shut?

• 1:53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:53:23Speaker 03

  And then the federal judge overwrote it? Then they did a bunch more stuff like that, turning the lights out, sending in armed security, all this stuff. I mean, it has been like the Alamo down there. And so, finally, the federal court kicked it out, in bankruptcy of three years, said, "We wash our hands, because they would never agree to anything." He kicks into state court, Barbara Bellis, the same judge, she said, signs a receiver, and tells him to come in and take it over. Under the law, he's supposed to sell it at auction, but they don't want it sold at auction. So now, he has just come in and said, he's no longer gonna allow it to operate and fund next month, even though the money's there to run it. And so they're gonna close the doors, he says, somewhere around the 7th of March,

• 1:54:06Speaker 03

  finally, and, and, and we'll shut down, I have the Alex Jones backup network, other people on, I'll, I'll, I'll pop back on the air, follow me on X, real Alex Jones, things like that. But my point is, is that all the rules are being violated. Well, that's fine, because I've got good, high-powered lawyers now, and I had good ones before, but they didn't understand this was the next level corruption they were dealing with, by the courts, that are, that are hitting them at every level. And not every court's corrupt. And the stuff we've got, we've deposed them over a year ago, just admitting that, oh, yeah, the plaintiffs and the families, you know, yeah, we got together with the, uh, US trustee of the Justice Department that came into my case, and we decided, people that are gonna work with Alex Jones will never be allowed to get this company. So, so, so,

• 1:54:49Speaker 03

  so, so, so that's why they had the staged, uh, that's why they had the staged, uh, uh, auction, was because the judge ordered an auction, so they had a staged auction that wasn't real, so that Michael Bloomberg Finance, he could get control of my website, they said to confuse people about who I am. So... And I know you're a business guy, so you understand all this. Can you translate to the, to the public what you're, think you're hearing?

• 1:55:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, I'm tracking. The question I got is, can a, can a pardon help you in any way?

• 1:55:20Speaker 03

  I don't think they have pardons for civil matters.

• 1:55:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He can't do anything with that, right from the top.

• 1:55:25Speaker 03

  Only the public can pardon me by following what I do. Whoever my sponsors are, support them, because here's the deal, I get to have my crew and have my show, and have, and we're building a studio with folks even better than one before. And so, a, a, and, and under federal and state law, I'm allowed to get my paycheck, they can try to grab it and stuff, and I, I don't care. I'm, I live in a trailer, I live under a bridge, I, I, I don't care. They haven't taken away my voice, they haven't taken away-

• 1:55:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Have they garnished your wages yet or not yet?

• 1:55:51Speaker 03

  Well, that's the thing is, they have, they have, they have, they've never wanted to settle. So the courts keep telling them, settle, settle, settle, but they'll never settle, because they wanna keep the protracted fight going, because it, it, it's about pinning me down, it's about, they say on TV, we want him off the air, we don't want money, we do this to harass him, we do this to silence him.

• 1:56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So, long-term Infowars, wha- what's the plans? Are you gonna sell, are you gonna move?

• 1:56:16Speaker 03

  They won't let anybody buy it.

• 1:56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  They won't let anybody buy it? And whoever that probably buys you, they're gonna destroy them as well. They're gonna go after them as well.

• 1:56:24Speaker 03

  Well, they're, they're, they're, they're just not letting anybody do it at auction. So, now, now, now, the Onion guy, who's fun about Bloomberg, he has said, "Oh, yeah, it's at the state receiver level, I'll be getting it soon."

• 1:56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  "I'll be getting it soon?"

• 1:56:39Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 1:56:40Speaker 03

  It means that they're just going to, they're not gonna have an auction? Cause again, under the law, I'm supposed to have something sold, so that part of my debt's taken away.

• 1:56:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:49Speaker 03

  But they go, "No, we have you with, with a no discharge in the federal court." They have to play the judge there with deception, that's gonna overturn. So that, so that no matter what I pay them, I never get out of it, you understand? It's non-dischargeable, which is, the bankruptcy law's supposed to be about that. So then, then at the state level, we're like, "Okay, we got people that are ready to buy this for a bunch of money." They go, "We don't want money. We're just gonna wait, and the receiver's gonna give it to us, and you don't get any money taken off what you owe us." Under the law, that's illegal.

• 1:57:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 1:57:17Speaker 03

  But they don't care, cause they got an Antifa judge with blue hair. I mean, imagine, you go into a court, and there's literal, you know, Antifa sitting there.

• 1:57:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So, no, they haven't garnished your wages? They haven't taken any money from you yet? You are spending a lot of money with lawyers.

• 1:57:31Speaker 03

  Well, let me be clear what they did. All I had was a hun- I'm not into big fancy stuff. All I had was a hundred and twenty-seven acre ranch, out in the middle of nowhere, you know, an hour from Austin. That was great, and a place, I never had time to even go there. Okay? This case was an emergency, had a little sha- little shack on it. Uh, that was really cool, it was like a hundred and fifty years old, co- cotton farmers lived there. Uh, and so, they took that, got, they got three million bucks for it, like triple what I bought it for. Um, they got my little lake house, uh, that I bought for, like, you know, three hundred thousand dollars. They got like a million for that. Little cool thing around on the edge for deal, but nothing, I never had time to go to the lake house. So, in, in, in all my years on air... Supposedly making hundreds of millions of dollars. I had this ranch and I had this other thing. And then, uh, and I had a Ford Explorer.

• 1:58:16Speaker 03

  Cause you get to keep your main car. They got like a seven-year-old Ford Explorer. So they got all that. Uh, they had me audited by the IRS. Um, and the IRS came back after, after a year audit and said, okay, he overpaid taxes the last five years. Four point three million dollars. So that went into them. But then they never want the money. They give it to the lawyers and whoever the receiver is to continue to wage war. And then they spend all the money with, with PIs and audits and, and corporate audits.

• 1:58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  How much did that money went to the six families?

• 1:58:45Speaker 03

  Uh, none of it. They don't want the money. They've said in hundreds of clips on TV, we don't want money. All of it is weaponized. They already get 300 million off my name in fundraising. They already get just department money funding their lawsuits. So, so they got their 300 million. Okay. Plus off my name. I mean, they literally.

• 1:59:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The six families?

• 1:59:02Speaker 03

  Yes. They already got 300 million and it's, it's, it's me. My face, ads, he's brutalizing us, give us money, help.

• 1:59:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Why didn't the other 14 families sue you?

• 1:59:11Speaker 03

  Um, I think they went and they must've gone on research. I never said anything about them. I mean, I literally watched a few videos, commented on a few people, had a couple of debates about it. And then talked about one guy. Well, I wouldn't even say his name, but he was real famous. He, you know, he sees the CNN cameras. You know, they, you'll go, hey, you're supposed to be on camera. And he's like, he's like, well, ha, ha, ha. He sees the cameras, starts crying. People said that looked fake. Okay. And so all I did was say, yeah, it looks like that to me. I didn't create it, didn't put it out, any of that. That's all they've got. And so when they say they've harassed me, when they say I, uh, uh, when they say I've harassed them, when they say I've made money off them. None of it is true. They live off of me. But it's not them. It's the lawyers, it's the law firms, it's the Democratic Party. I mean.

• 1:59:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's pretty wild. So it's not closed. They want to extend. Um, I remember when I got sued by the previous company I was with, the, the first thing I wanted to do was settle. The moment we settled, I could get my contracts with other insurance company. Later on, the CEO of that company and I had dinner one time, the guy that sued me. He says, what should we have done differently? I said, if you would have kept the lawsuit going, I would have lost a lot of contracts. I would have been out of business. So you should have extended the lawsuit and I'd settle for the check that I gave you. They sat there and thought about it. They obviously want to destroy you is what they're trying to do. Can they stop you from giving your thoughts and opinions?

• 2:00:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  They can't stop doing that.

• 2:00:37Speaker 03

  Well, that gets incredible. If you go back to, um, June of 2024, when they got caught doing the fake auction and all that, they had the, the, the, the former federal prosecutor and head lawyer, my main inquisitor, it looks like, um, looks like, um, Eddie Munster come down here with the one dad whose name I had said. And they would, they would kind of bow up at the entrance and buck, you know, kind of, you know, raw dog being kind of, mm, it was just pathetic. Uh, and they thought we were going to be shut down that day. And they put filings in saying, you can pull this up at Bloomberg.

• 2:01:19Speaker 03

  The 13th Amendment does not apply to Alex Jones. It applies to everyone else. He's a special case. We own his name. We own his, we own, we own his likeness, basically. We own all. And, and remember they went to X and said, we want real Alex Jones. And they said, no. We own that, that sub URL. And i- i- if you can sue and say you can get his content, then you show us the right court ruling. We'll let you download his content. But you'll, you, you will not get real Alex Jones. And Elon spent a bunch of money, got the whole file, countersued them, and they had to back off. Did you, did you guys pull the 13th Amendment thing? I'm looking. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's crazy. It's in a Bloomberg article. So, um, lawyers say the 13th Amendment is, Alex Jones is a special case. 13th Amendment doesn't apply to him.

• 2:02:03Speaker 03

  So they literally against, that's against indentured servitude and slavery. So they literally. If you want to, I think the headline will be like, "The Families," it's always the families, not Democrat PR firms and think tanks, "The Families of Sandy Hook Want Alex Jones's Social Media." And it's in a Bloomberg article about that. It's also in articles, "Axed to Intervene in Alex Jones Case."

• 2:02:26Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, you just found it, Rob. All the way at the top. Isn't that the one Reuters, Reuters is probably quoting, "Want to see," that's the one, click on it.

• 2:02:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a bunch of them. The point is, you can read the filing. They said, they said, they literally said, "They own my name." Well, only if you sign a 360 contract like Prince did with Sony or whatever it was, you can sell your likeness and you can sell your name. I've always free to air my information. In fact, they had a big problem even saying they can own the catalog because I've always said, "In contracts online," so stations could play us without asking TV stations. I always say, "This is a free, non-exclusive license to the world." Yeah, there it is, there it is. The 30th Amendment does not apply to him.

• 2:03:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 2:03:11Speaker 03

  You gotta read the filing. I mean, you can't make this up, man. I mean, they literally, and imagine, I'm walking to the courtroom. You know, just like this.

• 2:03:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Ready to get you.

• 2:03:25Speaker 03

  And one time my security had to come over because one of them came over like, "You only gave us 300 million, we only live off you. We only made all this up about you." And they just gotta act like I'm this bad guy. It's fucking crazy, man. I just laugh at them, like, "You fucking lunatics." And like, one guy looks like Eddie Munzer, like, walks like a flying monkey, like, it was like... And my lawyers are like, "Who are these people?"

• 2:03:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Do these clips exist or no?

• 2:03:53Speaker 03

  There's no cameras in a federal court. I'm just saying, you gotta see these people to believe them. Because they know I haven't done any of this stuff and they'll just sit there going, every time I turn around, they're just going like...

• 2:04:08Speaker 03

  I'm just like, dude, you know, you may threaten a million of me. I didn't do any of this. The worst they got is me with a caller one time going, yeah, I can see how it's totally fake synthetic event. I just move on to the next person. Like I said, day one, I think Jesse Smalls fake. If it was real, it's not my, well, my bad, you know?

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• 2:05:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's wild seeing from there to now. Alex, if today you're 22 and you're the same wiring, you're getting started in social media today, doing the same thing you're doing, would you do anything differently?

• 2:05:38Speaker 03

  Oh, I definitely.

• 2:05:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I definitely wouldn't have interviewed like those professors and stuff that were saying it didn't happen.

• 2:05:49Speaker 03

  I mean, because.

• 2:05:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You wouldn't have interviewed those guys?

• 2:05:51Speaker 03

  No, I wouldn't have because it allowed me to be set up. I mean, here's an example.

• 2:05:57Speaker 03

  People.

• 2:06:01Speaker 03

  There's a whole genre of real conspiracy theories where people speculate. I don't, what I've always done is really just cover news and analyze stuff people don't know about. The trouble I've gotten in is when I cover somebody else doing something, it then gets attributed to me. Like, like, like I said at the start of the show, after it came out in the WikiLeaks emails, WikiLeaks that were confirmed to be real, in 2016, all this horrible Satanism, Aleister Crowley delivering kids the hot tub or Podesta, we were just some of the people covering that. CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, all covered 4chan and 8chan that were putting out disinformation. So they could discredit the real info. I just barely even covered them and said, I think they're wrong.

• 2:06:46Speaker 03

  I then got blamed for what they did. Now we know from the emails of F.C. and others, they were working with 8chan and 4chan to plant that. You see? But even when, but even when I even talked about it, they then turned around and said, because I was the target, "You are the one," and tried to sue me, but that didn't go anywhere. So, so, but the Democrats used that off record. I can't talk about what happened off record. They used that threat. This is back 2017, to get me to go to DC, have a conference about some stuff. It wasn't just pizza gate, it was other things. And they said, "Okay, well, this person's, you know," took them days even getting around

• 2:07:28Speaker 03

  to, you know, who this person is, but in this huge law firm, all this, "But if you'll just stop and, you know, work with us, 50 million a year." And I said, "I'm not gonna do it." They said, "Fine, you're gonna get sued, you're gonna destroy it." And then that's, that's when all this started up. But I mean, I've met with Democrats that you see on TV, the lawyers and stuff. And it's just point blank, "Alex, we like you, come join us right now." And I'm like, "Uh, no." So that's why when I'm down lower level, and they're lower level lawyers are at a mediation, you know, with me, the head of the Koskoff firm.

• 2:07:59Speaker 03

  The judge and my lawyer and the, the meeting starts, he goes, you ever seen the Godfather movie? And I go, yeah. And he goes, well, we're like that. We run the state. You're gonna lose. So I, I got you down here for this mediation. I'm gonna go talk to your lawyer and he'll, he'll tell you the message. And the, the retired judge was like, wow, that was weird. I've done it for years and act like that. And then I get in the car with, with my lawyer and he goes, well, I go, let me guess. They want me to come meet and agree to this and not talk about the second amendment. But he goes, yeah, how'd you know? And I said, I've got this before. So that was just the lower level giving me the message from the higher level. Like, here's the 50 million. And then by, by the time, we just won't destroy you down here. And I'm like, dude, like, they, they think I'm for sale. I don't know how to sell out. In fact, I have so much energy and stuff because I'm gonna fight for my

• 2:08:43Speaker 03

  life. And so, so I'm gonna, and, and, and, and so I wish I never would have stepped in their trap. But the way God works in mysterious ways, I kind of think maybe I shouldn't have any regrets because it was all a learning process. And I learned so much and, and how they operate got exposed in the process. And I believe in the end, things like this is gonna bring them down. So, I mean, I mean, look how Mike Lindell, a judge finds him guilty, no jury, but then months later, everything about the companies comes out, just like he said. Well, and now they called Lindell, who's on my show two weeks ago, you gotta get him on. And he, he named names and they said, listen, we'll, we'll drop our lawsuit against you. And, and maybe even, you know, take care of some of the back money that

• 2:09:24Speaker 03

  you spent fighting us. So if you'll, if you'll just not attack us anymore. And Mike said, I didn't attack you. I told the truth. And he said, I'll see you in court and hung up on him. So, so see, oh, now they found him in default? Good. Let's have the jury trial later this year. Now that they've already been indicted and it's all coming out. See how it works? So enough time on this. It's coming out about all of them. Does that make sense?

• 2:09:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It does. I have one last question I want to ask you before we wrap up. You had, you had a interaction with Marco Rubio. I don't know what it was, 10 years ago, 8 years ago, 9 years ago. Rob, do you have that clip, this one right here? Go ahead and play the clip, Rob.

• 2:10:00Speaker 18

  Google, does Facebook, does Twitter need to be regulated like life? Do they need to be reg-

• 2:10:05Speaker 03

  Marco Rubio, the snake. Little frat boy here. Alright, man. Yeah, yeah. Who are you, man? Who is this guy? I swear to God, I don't know who he is, man. Yeah, you might hope you're doing platforming. Tens of millions of views.

• 2:10:14Speaker 18

  Infowars.

• 2:10:14Speaker 03

  Better than Rush Limbaugh? He knows who Infowars is. Playing this joke over here. That's why the platforming didn't work.

• 2:10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That's there. You know, whatever the timeline is, what year is this, Rob? Can you pull up the year?

• 2:10:25Speaker 03

  I, I remember, this is like 8 and 1/2 years ago.

• 2:10:28Patrick Bet-David?

  18, okay. From there to now, watching how he's handled himself. Has your opinion about him changed?

• 2:10:34Speaker 03

  Well, first, I want to be clear about this clip.

• 2:10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Please.

• 2:10:38Speaker 03

  They were having hearings about censorship, where they were talking about me, and the Google head was there, but I couldn't ask questions. So I'm already hot and bothered, and they got these scrums all over. So I walk over, and he's doing a scrum with like 4 or 5 reporters. So I sit there politely, and we, we put the raw video out, but then they banned us right after this, so it's, we should re-upload it. So much stuff that I remember, oh, you know. We'll try to find the full thing. I walk over and I'm polite, and I wait. And I say, shouldn't we do something about censorship? And like, you know, what's been happening to Infowars? Because that had just happened. And he goes, who are, he goes, who are you? And then he turns and ignores me, so I wait a while. Then I start being smart mouth. So the media cut it to make me look like I'm a dick, you understand? So I didn't just walk over to him and be a jerk.

• 2:11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you guys ever interacted prior to this, or no?

• 2:11:25Speaker 03

  Well, no, but, here's the thing. I've always thought he was competent, very well spoken. Uh, and, and I know he used to be more neocon-ish, that's how the structure was. He's been a great guy for Trump. Uh, he's like, got the best numbers of anybody in there. And so I don't want to be enemies with Marco Rubio. In fact, 6 months ago, because I know I'm in there, they, they told me, they got the State Department documents of the 12 people they're mainly targeting, when Trump first got in at first, I'm one of them. And then we know what up to 30, and this, I've got these documents, a bunch of them. I'm in Crossfire Hurricane, I'm in Arctic Frost. Uh, I mean, I'm in it all, man. I mean, I've been- Oh yeah, I forgot the Sandy Hook thing. It was the CIA went and that's come out and got

• 2:12:06Speaker 03

  the Justice Department to do that as well. CIA, FBI ran all this. I forgot that. The FBI initiated the lawsuits, all of it. So, so I was trying to get him to do something about it. You know, I advised JD Vance when I already knew he had the nomination, nobody knew it. We met up in Detroit and I explained, I said, it's the, it's the Countering Foreign Misinformation Propaganda Act of Obama. That's how they put the state behind networks or sleeper cells in. When Trump got in, they put a couple billion dollars that tied into other agencies that already had money for other programs, over 20 billion, to be able to then engage in propaganda and undermining you. And Vance is like, yeah, we're on that. We know about that. But the point is, is that all the stuff Mike Benz now has just vindicated all that. But I've been aware of this whole plan. And that's why they've been after me, is because I actually know how their, how their

• 2:12:51Speaker 03

  plans operate. So, oh, back to Marco Rubio. I would like to be nice to Marco Rubio, but he goes on to basically threaten to kick my ass in the club. He says, yeah, he says, if you touch me again, I'll, I'm gonna have you dealt with. Yeah, I said, oh, your bodyguard? He goes, no, I'll take care of him myself.

• 2:13:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He said that. Good for him. Question I got for you is, right now, hey, this is February, what, 12th is what it is. Right now, who's your number one candidate, uh, draft pick for 2028 president on the Republican side? Is it him or Vance?

• 2:13:22Speaker 03

  Is it who I think can win? Or is

• 2:13:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Primary general.

• 2:13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Because those are two different

• 2:13:31Speaker 03

  I like JD Vance better and think he's very well spoken. Um, and, and, and, and his presidential material. Um, I trust him more. But I gotta say, um, I think both in the primary and in the, in the general, I, I think, even though they're best buddies, two peas in a pod. I mean, I think, uh, I think that's because Rubio's keeping his competition close. I mean, I'd have to say Rubio's got the edge.

• 2:14:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rubio's got the edge?

• 2:14:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, good for you, even though you're like JD, you think Rubio's got the edge?

• 2:14:10Speaker 03

  Well, there's enough, though conservatives that are anti-war that that might taint it, but just for his performance and the way he's, I mean, the way he comes off, I mean Vance comes off great, too. But Rubio gets to also be at the big peace summits and the war operations and, you know, all that really powerful stuff, so, uh, and then he handles it very well. I mean, he comes off very presidential. So I'm just being honest with you.

• 2:14:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, sounds good. We are at the end of the podcast.

• 2:14:45Speaker 03

  Tell people where to find me?

• 2:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Say that again?

• 2:14:47Speaker 03

  Tell people where to find me?

• 2:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

• 2:14:50Speaker 03

  All right, Infowars will probably be shut down. I know it's happened a bunch, but this is probably yet in the next three weeks. You'll find out about the new network, the new URLs, the new news sites at RealAlexJonesOnX, on Rumble at The Alex Jones Show, which I've just started promoting Rumble. We're gonna build that up, and on anywhere else we're allowed. We're still banned everywhere else, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, you name it. Oh, what's going on here?

• 2:15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We got a gift for you, buddy.

• 2:15:13Speaker 03

  So, so, RealAlexJones and our backup network at AJN Live. And Patrick, thank you, brother.

• 2:15:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Anytime. And Indiana, folks, it is his birthday yesterday. So we got a sync for you. We got you cake. We got you a few things. On three, everybody, one, two, three. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Alex Jones. Happy birthday to you. And Rob, can you bring me the other gift hidden so I can give it to him?

• 2:15:46Speaker 03

  Yes. And listen, I knew about Manek, but now that I've really looked at it, it looks badass. I can't wait to get involved in that.

• 2:15:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, people are gonna be able to access you, ask you questions, and I thought it was appropriate while we're doing this.

• 2:16:00Speaker 03

  Is the girl one of the presents?

• 2:16:05Speaker 03

  It's a joke.

• 2:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but this gay frog is.

• 2:16:08Speaker 03

  Ah, I got a boyfriend, not a girlfriend. Thank you.

• 2:16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So we got you that. We got a couple of the gifts. We got this shoe that we built the last two years, made in Italy, 100%. Your size, future looks bright shoes. So when you're sitting there in business meetings, folks will see that the future looks bright. This is yours. Go for it. See if it fits. Hopefully we got the right size.

• 2:16:32Speaker 03

  If it fits, you must quit.

• 2:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  See it.

• 2:16:36Speaker 03

  Hey, I need to. They'll give me stuff. I don't have any money.

• 2:16:40Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Sick. There you go, buddy. What make the announcement on the next podcast?

• 2:16:49Speaker 03

  This is perfect.

• 2:16:50Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. There you go, buddy. Congratulations. Congratulations. Happy birthday, buddy. You're the man.

• 2:16:57Speaker 03

  Thank you, sir.

• 2:16:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Take care, everybody. Go send him a wish him a happy birthday on my neck and follow socials. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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