Epstein Files Fallout FORCES Resignation Of Ex-Obama Counsel | PBD #738

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down Pam Bondi’s contentious hearing fallout, Kathryn Ruemmler’s Epstein-linked resignation, Josh Hawley’s clash with Keith Ellison, and Wall Street’s $700B market bloodbath. ----- ✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR: https://bit.ly/4aM3Uai Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright guys, one day away from the weekend to be here, and we're doing a Friday podcast. Looks like my voice kinda came back this morning a little bit. Me and Alex were having a hard time yesterday. I don't know how many shots I took. By the way, we took olive oil shots, a couple of them in it. Then, you know, Mikel brings these shots, we take it. Then Mikel brings something in a cup that he made. Alex goes like this.

• 0:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I took that shot. But we had a great conversation. Anyways, we got a lot of stories. It looks like Homeland Security shuts down tonight at midnight. ICE will still be doing its thing, but I think TSA, Rob, did you say TSA is gonna take a hit? Who else?

• 1:11Speaker 02

  A few other government organizations.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's that. Here's a cow she telling us what the Fed decision is gonna be in March. Fed maintains rates, 93%. Fed cuts, 20 basis point, 25. 8% more, and more than 25? 2%. So we'll see what's gonna happen there, maybe we'll talk about that.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  And we should dive into it with the stock market.

• 1:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we will. And then numbers came back about Super Bowl halftime show. Bad Bunny, where he ranks for the most viewership, where he topped. Curious what you think, without looking at the data. But the most important data that came up, that Umberto just shared with me is toilet flushes. Okay? Toilet flushes. I've never heard of this before. But he said every year NBC News sends a report of how many times the toilet was flushed. Literally, this is a story, and that shows people's interest of walking out to go to the bathroom or watching the show. I don't know what it means, we'll talk about that.

• 2:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Trans lover of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin spotted after going into hiding. Adams got some thoughts on that. JB Pritzker says he'd move, he, he'd, he's had to overcome his wealth, which would be an obstacle in 2028. Him being wealthy is an obstacle for him running in 2028. Gavin Newsom's wife, Sculls reporters at Planned Parenthood, funding bill signing, signing, she just jumped in. She just jumped in and it was, it was very interesting when you see that. U.S. to send 200 troops to combat Christian persecution in Nigeria. Transgender killer 18 behind deadly Canada school rampage that left eight dead is seen

• 2:57Patrick Bet-David?

  griping rifle in disturbing image. Is this another clip, Rob, than the one we played yesterday? Okay, here we go, more disturbing stuff. Trump threatens chilling escalation in Iran as he meets with Netanyahu, not seen since Gaza. Trump after good meeting with Netanyahu, nothing definitive on Iran as Pentagon prep second carrier. Only one house STEM voted in favor of voter ID, proof of citizenship in U.S. elections. I love what Scott Jennings did today. There's a clip, Rob, I have in my notes if you want to pull it up and prepare it. Hot girls for Mondani, co-creator pushed wild anti-Israel 9/11 conspiracy theories. Adams got thoughts on that.

• 3:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Lawmaker makes a fool of anti-ice sheriff who can't answer basic questions about governors. By the way, this is probably one of the most embarrassing clips I've ever seen. The man is dressed in his uniform, four stars here, looks money, but he doesn't know the three different branches that we have and he doesn't know which one he works for.

• 4:00Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 4:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Literally, I don't know if you guys seen it, seen this or not, it's amazing. So we'll react to that. L.A. ice grabs illegal immigrant 30 who sodomized child under the age of 10. Tom's got thoughts on that. We got a few other things here to go through. And then, uh, top five moments of the bondi. Adam wants to react to it, well, obviously, we haven't done it yet. Wall Street, uh, roars higher than after blockbuster job report smashes forecast. Then the market kind of tanked a little bit yesterday, not a good day, was all red. I don't know how much money was lost yesterday, but a lot of money was lost yesterday in the stock market. For closure bloodbath deepens as banks seize 40,000 homes CNN numbers guys this is embarrassing

• 4:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Has nearly lost half of its audience and all its relevance in the past eight years When you see these numbers it's unreal when you look at these numbers maybe it's not for some people Holly Minnesota Attorney General get into shouting match one of the best clips to show you guys it's disturbing To watch it Mondani meets with the Minneapolis mayor in New York City to discuss protesting migrants What is Save America Act mandates voter ID we'll go into that And we got a few other clips to get into here of what is taking place CBS news considering New round of layoffs could affect 15% of staff

• 5:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Dow Jones crashes 700 points yesterday while the US market is down today Five key reasons behind the Dow's crash Vinnie what do we have going on here today?

• 5:37Speaker 04

  Well a new faith over fear hat is coming soon to a theater near you but I just wanted to This morning I was listening to Billy Graham which Pat you told me to listen to him you're like you know Vinnie dive in and listen to him so I'm getting ready in the morning I'm just listening to Billy Graham and he said something That I hadn't heard in a while and it was Apostle Thomas when Jesus rose from the dead Thomas wasn't there to see the resurrection so Thomas goes I'll believe that he rose if I get to put my hands In his wounds and in his side so then he finally sees Jesus and he goes in there he goes God Thomas go put your Put your hands in here and Jesus looks at him and goes because you have seen me you believe blessed of those Who haven't seen me and still believe it in that moment Tom it hit me he's talking about us okay?

• 6:20Speaker 04

  We weren't there we didn't see Jesus walk we didn't see him die we didn't see him rise from the dead but we believe and that is faith In real time and he's talking about us and the last one you mentioned the story about the Nigeria that we're sending 200 troops Trump is sending 200 troops they're saying they're not going to do anything crazy but think about that Think about the priests think about the parishioners in those churches that were bombed and murdered and slaughtered and they were in that church Praying and saying please help that is faith over fear in real time and that's how that's what we're about and this is what the brand is about and I can't tell you how many people see me with the shirt because the shirt's on the back and just tap me on the back and go I'm with you or they see this hat and they go where can I get that hat so you go on VT merch.com I'll get the hat we have the hoodies

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• 7:10Patrick Bet-David?

  by the way if you work with Vinnie every day you would see how much he's changed in the last three and a half years since being here his commitment to his faces of faith is unbelievable and everybody around him feels it okay all right so let's get right into it Rob what story should we get into first

• 7:26Speaker 02

  uh the first story that everybody wants or is voting for in the chat is the FBI destroying the Epstein prison footage

• 7:33Patrick Bet-David?

  what is that Rob

• 7:35Speaker 02

  so it turns out here I have a news article on it it turns out that the department of the FBI may have destroyed the tapes of Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell

• 7:43Patrick Bet-David?

  okay let me read it and we'll get into it so Epstein files reveal FBI authorized destruction of master copy prison footage in 2024 page 11 is this it Rob

• 7:54Speaker 02

  yes sir

• 7:55Patrick Bet-David?

  go for it

• 7:55Speaker 05

  new documents show the FBI destroyed its master copy of surveillance video from the night Jeffrey Epstein died before public demands for its release grew when the agency later put out footage it was a screen recording with a one minute gap officials initially blamed a nightly system reset but records show that theory was never verified Congress later released the full video including the missing minute which showed nothing unusual and the Justice Department has not commented

• 8:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob what is this

• 8:27Speaker 02

  uh this is a report that came out I believe two days ago that the FBI destroyed the original master copy of the jail cell video which may or may not have shown somebody sneaking into Epstein's jail cell on the day of his death

• 8:42Patrick Bet-David?

  how do you process that Tom

• 8:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the FBI is the nation's highest, most elite law enforcement. When we have things across state lines, when we have things that are major frauds, they partner with the SEC on major financial fraud. But here you have the highest, the, the elite of our law enforcement is actually destroying evidence, not preserving evidence. I, I'm shocked. I'm absolutely shocked. This kind of takes it back to when the FBI, and now we've seen it, you know, 60 years later, how there is evidence from the Kennedy assassination that was not preserved, that is missing. And it just, it'll, it, what it leads to is the public, and I'm part of that, just doubting, you know?

• 9:27Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like, how can you have faith in an organization that's supposed to be investigating one of the most significant crimes we have, of the most significant player in this insane, you know, scandalous, horrible, multi-level crime operation that apparently that was going on on that island? And the guy that gets killed, the evidence isn't preserved?

• 9:48Patrick Bet-David?

  When, when was this destroyed?

• 9:50Tom Ellsworth?

  It just destroys my faith in the law enforcement that's entrusted.

• 9:53Patrick Bet-David?

  When was this destroyed, Rob?

• 9:54Speaker 02

  I believe, according to the emails, it looks like it was destroyed the day or the day after Epstein's death.

• 10:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So it says in June 2024, an FBI agent was granted authorization to destroy an evidence item labeled 1B60, 1B60, which turned out to be the master copy of the prison surveillance video from Epstein's final hours. The FBI described this destruction as routine because the underlying criminal case was closed and the evidence was considered no longer pertinent. Later, when the Justice Department needed the footage, again in 2025, they did not have the original master copy, so they worked to reconstruct footage from a secondary system recording. The reconstructed video has a gap of about 62 seconds that wasn't captured. That, but, but who destroyed it and when?

• 10:44Tom Ellsworth?

  They destroyed it two days after he died.

• 10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's "they"?

• 10:49Speaker 04

  The FBI authorized it.

• 10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this FBI agent's name? Do we know?

• 10:52Speaker 02

  They don't. It's redacted in the files. Right here, it's the black bars in this email.

• 10:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So XYZ advised... Rob, can you please read the blue?

• 11:00Speaker 02

  Sure. Redacted advised that the only one hard drive of the camera system was working at the time of the incident on August 10th, 2019. When a DVR went bad, none of the cameras recorded. There was a system failure of DVR 2 on July 29th, 2019, and the motherboard failed on DVR 2 on August 8th of 2019. The hard drive failure occurred on August 10th, the same day Epstein died, 2019. After the incident, Redacted was asked about the cameras. There were two new hard drives to install, but installing the new hard drives would mean that all prior data would be lost. The warden wanted video, and so Redacted was told to start working on the system.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  Redacted started removing the bad drives in order to rebuild the DVR. Redacted advised that an FBI agent was the one who pulled out the DVR. Redacted also advised that he knew that by replacing both hard drives, the system would be wiped, and that he had advised personnel at MCC of that.

• 12:00Speaker 04

  Like, could we take a second? So they knew what they were doing two days later. Tom, thank you for saying that. Can we just all, for one second, get on the same page? Why? Why would the FBI do that? So two things have... One of these has to happen. Either he was removed, many cameras down, footage, everything, get him out, put a body in there, and just say, "Oh, it was Epstein, because they fumbled everything, pal." Or number two, someone came in, killed him, and then they left, and they don't want to show it. So let me just, really fast, Pat, this is why people have questions like me all the time. When he tried to kill himself on July 23rd, that footage was accidentally deleted, okay? He said himself he was assaulted and he did not commit attempt suicide. Then again, against protocol, they moved him out of suicide watch, and six days into

• 12:43Speaker 04

  unit without constant monitoring, on the night he died, the guards missed the 3:00 AM and the 4:00 AM rounds. They apparently fell asleep and browsed the internet. Both later admitted they falsely recorded records for that night. His cellmate was removed two days before he died. Protocol again messed up. Uh, one day before his death, he made an unmonitored phone call violating prison policy, claiming he was calling his mother. By the way, she'd been dead for years. And then the cameras malfunctioned. All right. And then the jail itself hadn't seen a death in 21 years. Okay. And then there's a 4chan post by prison guard Roberto Grivalva made hours after Epstein died, claiming Epstein was wheeled out shackled in a wheelchair the night before.

• 13:25Speaker 04

  An unauthorized trip van arrived without logging in and a person inside the where uh, was wearing an army uniform. Think about, think about that. And then the crime scene was destroyed immediately after he was killed. Our inmates reported hearing uh shrieks from his cell that night. Official dismissed the reports. His body was found near seated kneeling position with his body. Uh, one or two inches off the floor. Ligature around his neck. The marks didn't match the bed sheet. Pat, all of this aligns to either they shut the camera off or they deleted it. Somebody came in, grabbed him, they put a body in there and they were like, all right, clean the scene up and leave. So then when people like me go, you, the guy might be alive because they never released an actual photo of him at. It was always from the side and he had a hook nose.

• 14:07Speaker 04

  And as everybody could see, he doesn't, that's not the, that's not the facial structure of, of Epstein. None of it makes sense. The only thing, and then when people like us go, wait a minute, are they lying to us? Then you put, put these facts in and then they call us crazy.

• 14:20Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, when this happened, the sitting president was Biden and the sitting FBI director was Chris Ray. Just so you know that. It's important to know that when that took place. Adam.

• 14:33Adam Sosnick?

  So here's what's going on in my mind. There seems to be all the stories regarding Epstein when he's in prison. Like there's a missing minute. Now things are being deleted. Well, they were. The cops are falling asleep. This is why people have so many questions and the story will not die. So what's the, the thing you talk about? Hanlon's razor? What it, what it is, what's the definition of that? Never attribute to malice, which can be explained by stupidity? Either everyone that's in charge of the jail and the prisons and the DOJ is just bumbling, fumbling idiots or there's genuine malice going on here. It can't be both. Can you just be dumbling, fumbling, mumbling idiots?

• 15:17Adam Sosnick?

  Who are also trying to cover up everything? That's the challenge I have here. Pick a lane, guys. Either be like, "Yep, we cleaned it all up, sorry, nothing to see here." Or we're absolute, absolute buffoons. We're running the government.

• 15:30Speaker 04

  But, but, but do you remember? It was about a year and a half ago, and we were on the old set, and you were like, "Guys, nobody cares, on the list of pirates of Americans, blah blah blah." And here we are, a year and a half later, Adam. It's the number one talk thing about, now, by the way, and it's not gonna stop. It's gonna keep going because it's the latter, Adam. It's they're covering up because there's billionaires, there's powerful people. He was extremely powerful. He worked with the CIA, he worked with Mossad. All these people, he did all these favors, and then he's in jail. It's, it's not so far-fetched to go, "Hey, listen. We're gonna arrest you because we have to arrest you. We're gonna make it look, the cameras are gonna do this, the guards are gonna sleep. We're gonna look like you killed yourself, and then we're gonna send your ass off to another country, grow a beard and live somewhere else." It's not that hard, Adam, it's not that hard. When, guess what?

• 16:15Speaker 04

  When, when you say, "When we do this, the FBI deleted it." Fact, okay? Uh, Cash Patel is saying, "There's nothing's here." BS. And now we know, and guess what? We can't do nothing about it. Nothing about it.

• 16:27Tom Ellsworth?

  You don't even have to go that deep, Vinny. It is not, but it's not. No, no, I respect what you're saying, and I, I follow that line of thought in a lot of ways. But you don't even have to go that deep. The one minute is exactly the time when an assassin would need to get in to do it.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 16:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And, medical examiners around the US all said, "You know, the limited pictures are there. If that's not a staged picture and this isn't here, then that doesn't really line up with this kind of a death." So you have medical examiners saying, "Shouldn't we look at this? This doesn't look right." And then you have the minute missing of exactly the time to get someone in there. Just stop right there.

• 17:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're right.

• 17:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Just stop right there and then say, "Why would you erase the hard drive? Or would you do things to erase it?" Remember, they erased a hard drive in 1963 in Dallas, Texas? And his name was Lee Harvey Oswald.

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Right? If you think of it that way, when you lose evidence at the exact appropriate moment?

• 17:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, come on.

• 17:20Speaker 04

  And if you, when you do stuff like this, and then you have people like us questioning it, they call us crazy. It's like when you have a pizza shop in Washington and the owner and Podesta and his brother are all talking weird stuff about $60,000 worth of pizza. And, and kids and bring the kids in the hot tub and everything. And then we're called crazy. No, no, you guys are crazy because you're horrible at covering up your crap. Because evil, evil at the end, Pat, when you talk about bad policies have bad consequences. Your stupid, evil demonic selves are gonna show yourselves. Are gonna show yourselves because light always wins.

• 17:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob just ran this, let Pat talk. Look, Rob just ran this poll.

• 17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw it, I saw it. Yes, 52% believes he's still alive. 44% believe he was killed. 5% believe he killed himself, suicide.

• 18:08Adam Sosnick?

  And nobody thinks he killed himself. Can I just respond to this real quick? By the way, I'm with you on how passionate you are. Don't misconstrue me not making this a top three issue in my life.

• 18:19Speaker 04

  You said the, you said the country doesn't, you said, nobody's gonna, nobody cares, nobody. And now look at how, Adam, what's the number one thing right now? The stock market, everybody's like, eh, the stock market, nobody gives a damn. It's perverted, pedophile, probably cannibals, probably disgusting demons are running the show. And they're untouchable.

• 18:38Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with you, I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk slowly. I'm gonna talk slowly, so I'm with you. It's not just me, it's the data. Six months ago, we ran the data of, they said, what are the top issues that everybody in the country is focused on? And it showed one for Epstein. Like I'm talking the entire country. And we go, oh, 1%, and they go, no, one person had this in their top three. So two things can be true at once. Everyone is worried about the border, immigration, their pockets, affordability, their family, like that is the number one issue for everybody. Separately, we could also want answers on what's going on with Epstein. Two things can be true at once.

• 19:19Adam Sosnick?

  It's not just whether this is my number one story or not my one, number one story is irrelevant. People want accountability, I totally get that. But none of this is affecting genuine people's lives. Last thing, something that I focus on, maybe some people can use this little trick. It's sort of a Venn diagram. It's things that matter and things that you can control. And where you should focus are where those two things intersect.

• 19:45Speaker 04

  We have no control over Epstein.

• 19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but this, but this is.

• 19:49Speaker 04

  Do we have control over Epstein and the documents?

• 19:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Then if that's the case.

• 19:51Speaker 04

  Pam Bondi can't even do it.

• 19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's the case, what the hell are we doing a podcast for?

• 19:55Speaker 04

  I'm not saying.

• 19:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You think you have control over the stock market? You think you have control over, you know, Bad Bunny? You think you have, this is called a discussion for the audience to sit there and they want to see what different people's opinions are.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  We should discuss it.

• 20:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I under.

• 20:08Speaker 04

  But we're not investigating.

• 20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand having control or not having control. The audi, we're reacting to the different stories that are coming up. Pam Bondi, on, on zero to 10, how do you think she performed? Pam Bondi, how do you think she performed?

• 20:21Speaker 04

  Overall?

• 20:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Overall.

• 20:22Speaker 04

  I think she's doing an abysmal job.

• 20:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, the hearing.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  Oh, the hearing?

• 20:26Patrick Bet-David?

  The hearing. Tom gave it a two.

• 20:28Speaker 04

  I give her a five. She was right in the middle because I, you know, she was fighting back, but all the, like, this, saying the stock market is good and all the other stuff that was happening.

• 20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, why do you give it a two?

• 20:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I give her a two. I thought, and I, I, I don't want to, I don't want to give that. But guess what? I gotta call balls no strikes. And I, I, the, the answer she gave, the, a couple of the redirections she had, she had one interchange with a, uh.

• 20:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what clip was the most disturbing for you? And what clip, Vinnie, was the one that was most impressive for you on her behalf?

• 20:57Speaker 04

  I, I, the, the clips that I saw of her calling them out on their BS and all their relationships and, uh, Jamie Raskin's connection and Hakeem Jeffries, who, talking all this trash, he was taking, he was begging for campaign funds from Epstein after he was already caught being a pedophile. And just, Pat, if you don't mind, just really fast, I would just, two, 20 seconds? Adam, we were worried about the border, we were worried about the economy and everything because it was all messed up. Trump fixed it and now that it's fixed, everybody's back to number one being Epstein. That's the whole, that's all.

• 21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, go to Crockett, go to Crockett. Go to Crockett, Rob. This is one of them that Vinnie was talking about. Yeah, right there. Watch this here. This is the ending, I'm assuming. This is the one I sent you.

• 21:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. Go back, Rob. Go back.

• 21:42Speaker 08

  Convicted homicide arson weapon offense.

• 21:46Speaker 09

  Convicted, so what we talking about? Convict some of these perpetrators that raped these women that are sitting behind you. That you refuse to even acknowledge they are here.

• 21:57Speaker 10

  Time belongs to the gentleman from Kansas.

• 21:59Speaker 11

  Mr. Chairman, can I have a few seconds back?

• 22:01Speaker 08

  Texas from Cuba.

• 22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, how about yourself? What was the clip for you where you said, you know, that was to cause to give it to?

• 22:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I hated, I hated the whole segment between her and Massey getting into it.

• 22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it.

• 22:15Tom Ellsworth?

  That was just.

• 22:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Wexner, why didn't you, I made you. That whole part?

• 22:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. It's like, and by the way, they're on the same team. They're wearing the same jersey under all this.

• 22:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if they're on the same team.

• 22:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No, hang on. They're supposed to be wearing the same team. We have midterms coming up. We had a lot of things going on and Thomas Massey on the Republican side has kind of become like a, you know, a Joe Lieberman, kind of in the middle, kind of a wild card. And I just didn't like that. I just didn't like it at all. I thought it was a bad look. I didn't think it was a good answer and I thought them, they really got into it. It just, she, she didn't look poised, didn't look like an attorney general, you know, on top of her facts and everything. And I was, I was disappointed. I was really disappointed. I didn't want to see this.

• 23:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. Makes sense, Rob, play the clip.

• 23:05Speaker 10

  Respond and then the gentleman can move to his next question.

• 23:07Speaker 08

  Within forty minutes, you asked me a question. Within forty minutes, Wexner's name was added back.

• 23:14Speaker 12

  Within forty minutes of me catching you red handed.

• 23:17Speaker 08

  Red handed, there was one redaction out of over forty seven hundred. And we invited you in. We, this guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to, you're a failed politician.

• 23:30Speaker 13

  Gentlemen, I'd like you to watch the gentleman. Chairman, please restore his time and remind the witness of the rules here.

• 23:35Speaker 10

  There is no credible information. None.

• 23:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. Well, I mean, listen, it is, I couldn't find a reason to celebrate it. Rob, can you pull up the tweet on what I posted yesterday about what certain things we become united on? My opinion. So if you go to the third one, yeah, right there. "The Epstein files have become the biggest black eye to the administration. There are few issues that unite Americans across politics, religion, and income levels. Protecting kids is one of them. The last three administrations failed to address it. This was an opportunity to finally confront it head-on. The attack, deny, and never apologize playbook doesn't work when children are involved." Yes, there's a lot to celebrate. Murder down 20%, border more secure, America projecting strength, markets performing well,

• 24:22Patrick Bet-David?

  but none of that matters to parents if kids aren't protected. It's also true, many on the left are more focused on taking out Trump than protecting children. Otherwise, this would have been a priority years ago. Still, this has been badly mishandled. When it comes to kids, transparency and accountability aren't optional. Major fumble, no other way to say it. By the way, did you guys see the clip of Epstein's butler? The camera, and by the way, I just had Rob right now fact-check it before we show it. This is a real clip, okay? So, watch this, Rob. If you can play this clip, little disturbing when you watch this.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  What is it?

• 24:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You know which one I'm talking about?

• 25:00Speaker 04

  I just randomly saw.

• 25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the butler. Watch this. Go ahead.

• 25:03Speaker 14

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• 26:43Speaker 14

  To keep it cool, because they used to download pictures like this. Just like that, whole kind of pictures. Naked, naked girls. From Sweden, from Romania, from Czechoslovakia, from Brazil, from Callum Myers, all young girls. Very young, very young. When you say very young, how young are you talking about? 17, 18, 19, they didn't have braces, most of them. Younger, younger than that, though? Yeah, yeah. Okay. And this guy from Citrix, he erased all those images. I assume, I'm assuming. You're saying? Yeah, because. Were you there? If you had somebody.

• 27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, these are the people he stalked.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  And then he died on the.

• 27:18Patrick Bet-David?

  2014. Yeah, he died 2014. But he died because of cancer. That's what he died for. I don't want to put it like he died from anything else. Anyways, by the way, here's a question I ask Alex, I'm gonna ask you, Vinny.

• 27:32Patrick Bet-David?

  How much longer you think this story's gonna last? Epstein. They got... President Trump's not been president for how long? 13 months?

• 27:40Speaker 04

  You're in a couple of months.

• 27:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it 13 months? 13 months, right? Little less than 13 months. Yeah, little less than 13 months. He's got three more years left. How much longer will this be a story? How much longer? We know how much longer he wants it to be a story.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  Obviously.

• 27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, he's talking about it yesterday and Trump says, "Why do you... I don't even understand why people care about Epstein." And Lutnik is in the back laughing. Did you see that clip? Is this it, Rob?

• 28:09Speaker 02

  This is President Trump being asked about Lutnik's involvement in the Epstein files.

• 28:14Speaker 09

  Were you aware that Secretary of Commerce visited Epstein's island? And do you continue to have?

• 28:18Speaker 17

  No, I wasn't aware of it, no. I didn't, I actually haven't spoken to him about it. I wasn't, but from what I hear, he was there with his wife and children. And I guess in some cases, some people were. I wasn't, I was never there. Somebody will someday say that. I was never there.

• 28:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You notice how much it goes back to I was never there? It always goes back to I was never there. I think the part of it here, you know, when the audience watches, there's things you can laugh at. There's things you can laugh off. You know what I'm saying? There's certain things you cannot laugh off. You know, like even if we do a story and, you know, I'm doing a story and we're joking about certain stories, certain stories you can't even joke about. You know what I'm saying? So here, I think this is it, Rob, if you want to play, yeah, watch this.

• 29:05Speaker 09

  Is he hosting some kind of gathering of top advisors this evening to talk about how to respond to the Epstein situation?

• 29:13Speaker 17

  I don't know. I could ask you that question. I don't know of it, but I- Including fake news want to keep something like that going. But credible information, let's-

• 29:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, I don't know, guys. You know, we're fans of Lutnik.

• 29:30Speaker 04

  Big time.

• 29:31Patrick Bet-David?

  We're fans of, you know, the work that he does, but what do you look for when you play poker against somebody for six hours? You look for what?

• 29:38Speaker 04

  A tell.

• 29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe laughing is his tell. And maybe he's got, you know, I don't know. Do you understand what I'm saying?

• 29:46Speaker 04

  A thousand percent. And by the way, again, I've always said that I'm one of his biggest fans because of what he's doing and the way that he dresses the camera and stuff. But if we're going to be honest, he sat in front of that interview podcast, whatever you want to call it, and he's like, no, he invited us to his house in Manhattan. We walked in, we saw the massage chair, and I was like, ugh, and that was it. Now we find out because of the files, you took your wife and your kids to the island? Like, this is the clip, right, Rob? Yes. You played this one in the-

• 30:14Speaker 13

  And we left.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  We left.

• 30:17Speaker 13

  And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again. So I was never in the room with him socially.

• 30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  For business.

• 30:36Speaker 04

  Okay, Rob, you can stop it. And then, guys, and let's just call a spade a spade. Then you come out and you say that you took your wi- and here's my thing. After someone's been convicted of being a disgusting underage pedo- whatever you want to call it, you're gonna take your wife and kids and fly them to the belly?

• 30:55Tom Ellsworth?

  The deal. After the deal.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  After the- oh, I'm sorry.

• 30:57Tom Ellsworth?

  The plea deal.

• 30:58Speaker 04

  Deal. The plea deal. What are we talking about? So they're lying. So to answer your question, Pat, I don't see this thing going away until actual people go to prison. Because people like me, I'm gonna let you talk, Adam. People like me, and I've said this, I want to say 50 times here. Let justice be done, though the heavens fall. You don't see it like that because of the institutions, and I get that. But let me ask you this question, Adam. You think God, you think Jesus Christ is cool, and if he was here right now, and he's like, "Oh, they're using it as leverage? Oh, the rape and probably murder and cannibalism of kids? Yeah, yeah, use it as leverage so this other country, we don't go bankrupt." You think Jesus Christ would be cool with leverage for pedophilia and murder?

• 31:38Speaker 04

  No. I'm sorry, bro. That's not, that's not what my religion is about. That's not what God and Christ is about. I want people to go to prison. We just saw, Pat, who's the Goldman Sachs lawyer? She just stepped down yesterday. They're all connected. The banks, the presidents, the billionaires, the millionaires, Bernie Sanders, they're all of them. All of them. And the light is coming out. This, this disgusting darkness. God is shining a light, and I don't think it's gonna go away, Pat. I think it's gonna go, it's gonna keep going.

• 32:07Tom Ellsworth?

  These kind of things, everything has to be out. Go back and look at history books.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  I think it's gonna go three years.

• 32:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Nineteen-

• 32:13Speaker 04

  Democrats, heck yeah.

• 32:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, 1972, 1973, Watergate, until all of the men had been tried, and Lyddie was in prison, Coulson was in prison, Archibald Cox closed the books, all the tapes were out there. Books were published that transcribed the tapes. And then, and only then, was Watergate done. We knew about Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, we knew about the break-in, we knew about the clumsy Cubans that broke in to the Watergate Hotel. We knew everything. It was all out there. It was over and done. And then Gerald Ford lost the election, and Jimmy Carter's chapter began. But it took three years, and that was just Watergate, Pat. But everything had to get out.

• 32:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. But, Tom, Trump knows this. Trump has to know this. Like, you know, you'll test to make a story go away. It hasn't gone away. What are you doing now? What are you doing now?

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Three million more, the, the, the news media, everybody interested is saying the other three million docs.

• 33:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, and this story here, they announced top Goldman Sachs lawyer Kathy Remler to resign over Epstein links. What they forget to tell you is, this was Obama's main lawyer when Obama was president. She was the main counsel. So the way they wrote the title makes you seem like they're taking a shot at who? At David Solomon?

• 33:30Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 33:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're taking a shot at Goldman. By the way, Rob, can you copy paste her name and just go ask, who is she? Okay? Or go to her profile, LinkedIn, whatever you want to go to. There you go, go, go a little bit lower, if you could. Zoom in, zoom in, Rob.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Whoops.

• 33:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So, there you go. She was White House counsel to President Obama. But no, they put Goldman Sachs. What do you think is bigger? White House, what storyline is a bigger storyline? White House counsel to President Barack Obama fired due to ties to Epstein. And Rob, what, what came out in the Epstein files about her and Epstein? I mean, the way they were speaking was very mushy mushy, like, the relationship is a little bit...

• 34:12Speaker 02

  She referred to him as Uncle Jeffrey. I have a newscast where they talk about the gifts that she received as well, if you'd like me to play.

• 34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 34:19Speaker 18

  We begin here at 11 with breaking news. There is new fallout amid the release of the Epstein files. The top lawyer at Goldman Sachs, Kathy Remler, is stepping down after emails showed that she had a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Remler was also White House counsel to former President Barack Obama. Newly released documents show that she called Epstein Uncle Jeffrey and accepted luxury gifts from the disgraced financier. Her resignation takes effect June 30th, and in a statement, Remler said in part, "My responsibility is to put Goldman Sachs interests first." The company's CEO said, "She will be missed. I accepted her resignation and I respect her decision."

• 35:04Tom Ellsworth?

  If this had been a conservative, the first two words would have been, "Trump lawyer quits." Those would have been the first two words.

• 35:12Adam Sosnick?

  For sure, but this is her current role right now, right? That's why, that's why they're saying.

• 35:16Tom Ellsworth?

  It doesn't matter, Adam.

• 35:17Patrick Bet-David?

  She got, she got a high-end Hermes bag for ninety-three fifty. She got multiple bottles of wine, boots, a watch, and other clothing items. In one email she wrote, she was totally tricked out. Jeffrey's boots, handbag and watch, a Hermes Apple Watch band. She discussed which style she wanted in a 2018 email. And some reports suggest luxury coats and additional accessories like designer fur, trims, and other possible other gifts. There you go.

• 35:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I want to know why.

• 35:52Adam Sosnick?

  Good perspective.

• 35:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Why was he so close to her that he felt he had to swag her up like that? Why? That's what I want to know. What was she doing for him? What work was she doing? He decided, man, I gotta send swag. I gotta, I gotta, I just gotta light up her, her lobby with her assistant dropping all this stuff in.

• 36:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You're lacking, you know, you're discounting her ability to be a lawyer and practice law.

• 36:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. I want to know what was she working on? What projects was she working on?

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Well, uh, she exchanged eleven thousand three hundred emails from 2014 to 2019.

• 36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  With, with Epstein?

• 36:26Speaker 04

  With Epstein.

• 36:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Fourteen to nineteen? Eleven thousand?

• 36:30Speaker 04

  Eleven thousand three hundred.

• 36:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Was she working with Obama at the time?

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Uh, Kathy Obama.

• 36:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Fourteen, she was.

• 36:36Speaker 04

  From 2014 to 2019, that's one direct message on seventy percent of the days. Um, and then banking billionaire Ariane de Rothschild sent or received five thousand five hundred emails, while former Treasury Secretary, Secretary Larry Summers exchanged four thousand three hundred emails. So this is, I mean.

• 36:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Epstein was into the Obama administration at least, you know, 2013, 14, and two, he left office in January of seventeen. At least that, there's the overlap. We have the dates. Summers was his treasury guy? Yeah. This is his lawyer? Yep.

• 37:14Adam Sosnick?

  So here's what I think is going on, because you asked about grading Pam Bondi, and whether Trump is going to address this or no, or kick the can down the road. Here's my opinion. I think Trump is going to kick the can down the road. By the way, he's not kicking the can down the road on anything else. Tariffs, border, Greenland, Gulf of America, pick an issue, Trump's addressing it. But why isn't Trump addressing this? And why is this on Pam Bondi? Here's my opinion. It's kind of like the Cleveland Browns. Systemically horribly bad football team. They draft Shador Sanders. He's a average to below average quarterback, and everyone's focusing on him. But nobody's focused on the fact that for 25 years, they've been horrible.

• 37:59Adam Sosnick?

  They haven't had a good quarterback in decades. They haven't a winning team, basically, ever. So Pam Bondi, who's been the Attorney General for a year, it's kind of like, what have you done for me lately? And everyone's like, come on Pam, let's go, this is on you. It's like, hold on. Merrick Garland was the Attorney General for four years. What did he have to do with Epstein, under Biden? Before Merrick Garland, there was Bill Barr. Bill Barr, and then you've remembered Jeff Sessions, and I don't recall, he had to recuse himself. What were they doing during all this? By the way, Bill Barr has been in Attorney General in politics so long, he was under the Trump administration, and also under the Bush administration Attorney General. What does Bill Barr have to say about this?

• 38:44Adam Sosnick?

  So you have a cast of characters between Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, who was under Obama. You have Alberta Gonzalez. Janet Reno, under Clinton. This thing has been going on for decades. And they want to put everything on Pam Bondi, who's clearly sort of unequipped to handle all this. But the reality is, it's kind of like blaming Shador Sanders for why Cleveland Browns suck. Your organization sucks.

• 39:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

• 39:10Adam Sosnick?

  And she's just the latest quarterback in a crappy team.

• 39:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, that mental yoga, I got to back up on.

• 39:17Adam Sosnick?

  You want me to?

• 39:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Nobody is putting it on, nobody is putting it on Pam Bondi. We're looking at how she handled herself during a hearing. You said it, and you're talking to the whole scandal and the whole thing, and there is some weird, odd football metaphor in there.

• 39:31Adam Sosnick?

  No one is putting the whole You don't understand how football works? There's a quarterback and he's running the team. Oh, stop. And if the quarterback sucks, Stop, stop, stop, stop. But the entire team sucks. This is a tired technique.

• 39:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think the entire

• 39:45Adam Sosnick?

  This is such a tired technique, Adam. I think people wish to knock it down. Not true. That's my point. Unbelievable. It's the administrations that have been in there over

• 39:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Previously.

• 39:53Adam Sosnick?

  What did, did Bill Barr? Did Bill Barr speak on this?

• 39:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you

• 39:57Adam Sosnick?

  Did Eric Holder speak on this?

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a very good point.

• 39:59Adam Sosnick?

  Did Merrick Garland speak on this? These are the people who have been with the files for years and for decades. And you want to put it on Pam Bondi?

• 40:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, so if you want to play this clip, Rob, because this is a very valid argument to debate. Play this clip.

• 40:13Speaker 08

  Did you ask Merrick Garland that?

• 40:15Adam Sosnick?

  Bingo.

• 40:15Speaker 08

  The last four years? Did you talk about Epstein?

• 40:18Speaker 12

  I am reclaiming my time. I'm glad you're asking about Merrick Garland.

• 40:21Speaker 08

  You don't get a reclaimed time when you don't

• 40:23Speaker 12

  Because this is bigger than Watergate.

• 40:24Speaker 08

  When I don't answer a question the way you want.

• 40:26Speaker 12

  This goes over four administrations. You don't have to go back to Biden. Let's go back to Obama. Let's go back to George Bush. This cover up spans decades and you are responsible for this portion of it.

• 40:38Speaker 08

  And that's where the message is.

• 40:40Speaker 12

  Now, I want to know, at what point? At what point did the FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex Westner was not a co-conspirator? Because our Epstein Files Transparency Act requires you, please put it back on the screen, to release the internal decision about whether to prosecute him or not. And it's not in the files. And it's not in the files for any of those other men.

• 41:03Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't even see this clip. But this is essentially what I'm saying. Is that why you played this?

• 41:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, no, I'm playing it for a different reason. I'm gonna get you.

• 41:09Speaker 04

  And Adam, Adam, you make a fantastic point.

• 41:12Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's

• 41:12Speaker 04

  No, no, hear me out. This is your, I understand a thousand percent your point. Nobody talked about it. Nobody cared about it. The only problem about Pam Bondi, besides the connection of her and Florida and coming in after Epstein and being the AG here. Hear me out. Don't make the promises. Don't come in front of the camera and say, we have this. We have 10,000 videos and we're gonna show you. Don't be Cash Patel.

• 41:35Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with you.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  And, hold on. Don't be Cash Patel and say this and I'm gonna do this on day one this. Nobody, those other idiots didn't make the promises because they all kept their mouth shut. When you come out and say, "I promise, I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna promise." And then we asked for it, and you're blocking shit, and you're covering up stuff, you're deleting this, and you're hiding co-conspirators, that's the difference. You're right, none of them talked about it, because they're all implicated. All of their donors, all their friends, all their people, all the judges, all the presidents, and everything. Don't make the promise. Keep your mouth shut, that's how you kick the can down the street. That's the problem. She made the promise.

• 42:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And don't go to lunch in Washington DC and shoot your mouth off to somebody, and get overheard in a public restaurant.

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you put Pam Bondi in the top five best performing people that they've appointed, or the bottom five?

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Bottom five.

• 42:27Adam Sosnick?

  Closer to the bottom, bro.

• 42:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, then guess what, guys, respectfully, okay? There are certain jobs that everybody gets that's way over your head, okay? It's happened to everybody. You have to find a way to do the same thing you did to Walz. What was Michael Walz, what was the guy's name? What was the guy that was signaling to Israel, whatever he was doing? And he had a big job? Michael Walz, right? We met him.

• 42:50Speaker 04

  Mike Walz.

• 42:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, nice guy, but guess what? When that happened, what did they do? Hey, you go to UN. You go do, what was the job that he got? Yeah, United States Ambassador to UN. You go do that, you go over here. We didn't fire you, you save face. Take Bondi, move her off to a different job.

• 43:06Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think this is Bondi's job.

• 43:08Speaker 04

  I agree 100%.

• 43:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think then also the market will react in their own way. Or Bondi can simply resign and step down, and go and do her own thing. But I think this continuing this way.

• 43:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump, you know, we looked at some numbers. You know what Trump's turnover ratio was in his first administration? 43% in the first year. People are getting fired left and right. You know what it is today? 28, 29. Trump's not firing people. He's not firing people. And he's got to, sometimes. I think he's got to fire somebody, and this is, this is not a good look because she made the promises. She said, these are the things we're gonna do.

• 43:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And she got caught with James O'Keefe. And James probably likes Pam and didn't want to drop it. And he sent it to them saying, we're about to drop this. Then Pam comes in front of camera and says what they have. That, that, you know, this is the, and this is true story. This is not like we're making stuff up. So for me, I think it's time. I think it's time and I was hoping to see a different kind of a hearing. I don't think she performed well at all.

• 44:13Adam Sosnick?

  I'll just go real quick. I think the reason he's not firing these people who are quote unquote, performing badly. Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, Cash Patel, is because they're doing what Trump wants them to do. If they were stepping out of line, it's my opinion, this is my opinion. They were stepping out of line for what Trump wanted. They'd be gone in an instant. You're fired. You don't, what are the chances that Trump is having closed door meetings with Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem?

• 44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course he is.

• 44:41Adam Sosnick?

  And he's saying, Pam, I need you to do this. Step up, Kristi, you're doing this. Put a little more makeup on. Cash, let's go, get out there, buddy. He's a leader and they're gonna follow his lead. So if they're stepping out of line, that's when I think they'll get fired. If they're toeing the company line and doing what Trump wants them to be doing, I think that's why they're safe. He keeps saying that Kristi Noem's doing a good job. He keeps saying that Pam Bondi's doing a good job. We see him very close with Lutnick. If, if they were stepping out of favor, they'd be gone. That's my opinion.

• 45:11Tom Ellsworth?

  You're, you're guessing at best and I'm not gonna name names. Pat knows what I'm talking about.

• 45:15Adam Sosnick?

  What you're about to do is guess at best, but go ahead.

• 45:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, not at all. Uh, there are people that are there with the administration.

• 45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be the last one and we're moving on. Go ahead.

• 45:23Tom Ellsworth?

  There are people with the administration who are stacking up what they see every day. And not everybody is aligned with Trump. Some people are ahead of Trump. Some people are not ahead of Trump and they're on point. And Pat and I heard a list that went top to bottom that we're not gonna repeat. That was factual, I'm not guessing. Not all that cabinet is aligned and they're not gathering with a huddle and following the boss the way you just, you just indicated. So let's just leave that there. Not everybody is there.

• 45:52Adam Sosnick?

  Then they would be fired.

• 45:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Action, he made.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  If you, okay, we'll get elected president and then you can take care of it. But that's what's going on.

• 45:59Speaker 19

  That makes no sense.

• 46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to next story. Let's go to next story, next story, next story. This, this is not gonna go away, guys, just so we know. This, this is, this is gonna be around for a minute. Rob, let's go to Holly. Holly is sitting down with Rob. Can you tell the audience who Holly is sitting down with in this clip? You know which one I'm talking about?

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 46:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Minnesota.

• 46:18Speaker 02

  Keith Ellison, Attorney General of Minnesota.

• 46:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Keith Ellison, the Minnesota Attorney General. Watch this.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  I'm yours.

• 46:25Patrick Bet-David?

  It is uncomfortable. If you've not seen the whole clip, which clip is this, Rob?

• 46:29Speaker 02

  This is where they talk about, uh, being a pal and then telling you.

• 46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Good, this is good. But then I wanna go to the other one. But this is a good start. Go ahead, Rob.

• 46:38Speaker 19

  Whistleblowers came to you as early as 2019. Let's look. As early as 2019, whistlebl- don't talk over me. No, no, you're talking over me. 2019, it's my hearing, pal. As early as 2019. Don't call me pal. Whistleblowers came to- well, I should call you prisoner, cuz you oughta be in jail. Well, we'll see what you can do about it.

• 46:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause, pause it and go back. By the way, pause it and go back. Look what he says. The amount of audacity to react this way. Press play, Rob. Listen, folks.

• 47:08Speaker 19

  2019, it's my hearing, pal. As early as 2019.

• 47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 47:13Speaker 19

  Don't call me pal. Whistleblowers came to- well, I should call you prisoner, cuz you oughta be in jail. Well, we'll see what you can do about it.

• 47:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause. We'll see what you can do about it.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  The audacity.

• 47:23Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see what- by the way, who talks like that?

• 47:25Speaker 19

  Somebody knows they're untouchable.

• 47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll see what you could do about that, Rob. Is this the clip about the $10,000?

• 47:31Speaker 02

  I believe so. This was in your notes.

• 47:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, perfect. That's the one. Have you seen this $10,000 clip?

• 47:36Speaker 02

  No.

• 47:36Speaker 19

  No.

• 47:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You've not seen this?

• 47:37Speaker 02

  I haven't. I saw.

• 47:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know the whole conver- so the whole conversation he's having with them is he met with these folks for 54 minutes? And afterwards, eight days later or so, guy gets $10,000 and Holly's calling him out on it. It's disturbing. Watch this. Go ahead.

• 47:56Speaker 19

  You help them?

• 47:56Speaker 20

  Are you gonna let me answer?

• 47:58Speaker 19

  Please, we're all ears.

• 47:59Speaker 20

  So first of all, you're cherry picking quotes out of there.

• 48:02Speaker 19

  Why did you help them?

• 48:03Speaker 20

  I thought you were gonna let me answer.

• 48:04Speaker 19

  Why did you?

• 48:05Speaker 20

  Are you gonna let me answer?

• 48:06Speaker 19

  Why did you help them?

• 48:07Speaker 20

  You let me answer and I'll answer you.

• 48:08Speaker 19

  Tell the truth and I'll let you answer.

• 48:09Speaker 20

  I will tell the truth.

• 48:10Speaker 19

  Good, that'd be a nice change.

• 48:11Speaker 20

  So, so, no, that, now see, Mr. Chairman, I didn't come here to be insulted, I came here voluntarily.

• 48:16Speaker 19

  You came here for the truth, let's have it. Why did you help them? The quotes are here, they're in black and white, and every member of this audience can listen to the recording. It's 54 minutes long, it's all in public, you can Google it right now and listen to it.

• 48:30Speaker 20

  Right, and listen to it all.

• 48:31Speaker 19

  Why'd you help them?

• 48:33Speaker 20

  First of all, I didn't help them.

• 48:34Speaker 19

  You did help them.

• 48:35Speaker 20

  No, I did not, I certainly didn't.

• 48:37Speaker 19

  You're saying you didn't do anything for them? You didn't, you didn't?

• 48:40Speaker 20

  Well, wait a minute.

• 48:41Speaker 19

  I already have my team working on this again, that's not you?

• 48:43Speaker 20

  I have, I have my team, my team assisted with the information that led to the prosecution and conviction of these people.

• 48:52Speaker 19

  No, you didn't, you didn't look a finger to prosecute them. No, you did not.

• 48:54Speaker 20

  No, because they were, it was a federal prosecution.

• 48:57Speaker 19

  You had, oh BS, you had whistleblowers come to you as early as 2019.

• 49:01Speaker 20

  You're the one talking BS.

• 49:02Speaker 19

  Hey, listen, it's my time.

• 49:03Speaker 20

  Doesn't know what you're talking about, sir.

• 49:04Speaker 19

  Oh, you know, sir, you now have encountered the truth that you don't like it. Why'd you take their money? Why'd you take their money?

• 49:10Speaker 20

  I didn't.

• 49:11Speaker 19

  You took $10,000.

• 49:14Speaker 20

  That's a false statement.

• 49:15Speaker 19

  $10,000, nine days after the meeting.

• 49:19Speaker 20

  False statement.

• 49:20Speaker 19

  You took $10,000. Here's what happened, they went to your office, they solicited money from you, they solicited help from you.

• 49:27Speaker 20

  That's also wrong.

• 49:27Speaker 19

  They came to your office, it was your official office, you met with them for 54 minutes.

• 49:31Speaker 20

  No, they didn't.

• 49:32Speaker 19

  They asked you for help, you pledged it to them, and they talked repeatedly about money. In fact, it's all they talked about.

• 49:37Speaker 20

  That's a lie.

• 49:38Speaker 19

  Money, money, money, money. They said, "We will put our dollars in the right place, we will support candidates that will fight to protect our interests." You replied, "That's right." They said, "If you are securing your donor base and securing your power base, you can act the way you want." You replied, "Money is freedom." They said, "The amount of money circulating," I'm reading the transcript, "the amount of money circulating in our community today is powerful, and we haven't realizing it in a meaningful way," and you said... Give me the specifics and nine days later you took $10,000

• 50:11Speaker 20

  That's a lie.

• 50:11Speaker 19

  From people who were then indicted. It's in your reports. Why'd you do it?

• 50:15Speaker 20

  Oh, sir, this is

• 50:16Speaker 19

  Was it worth it?

• 50:17Speaker 20

  You know what? This is a theatrical performance.

• 50:20Speaker 19

  This is the truth. This is what accountability looks like of which you've had none.

• 50:23Speaker 20

  No, no, the fact

• 50:24Speaker 19

  You helped fraudsters defraud your state and this government of $9 billion and you got a fat campaign contribution out of it. You ought to be indicted.

• 50:33Speaker 20

  True.

• 50:34Speaker 19

  That's the truth.

• 50:35Speaker 17

  I think we've made the point. Let's keep the tension just a little more calm.

• 50:38Speaker 19

  Oh, I'll ask how I want it, sir, Paul.

• 50:40Speaker 20

  And that's the, and that's the truth.

• 50:42Speaker 19

  Oh, no, this is all on the record, sir.

• 50:43Speaker 20

  Oh, no, sir.

• 50:44Speaker 19

  Did you bother to, did you bother to investigate where the money that you facilitated their fraud for, where it went? Why'd you help them?

• 50:51Speaker 04

  So, so, so for people to understand, he's, this guy is, works with, uh, Tim Walz and Ilhan Omar, they're all, they're all on that same little crew and, uh, with the major fraud.

• 51:02Speaker 17

  Ilhan Omar.

• 51:03Speaker 04

  All the, all the fraudsters were going to him saying, hey, listen, we're doing this and they're

• 51:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, here's what it is. What he's, what he's talking to him about, December 11, 2021. Holly's accusing Ellison of, on that day, would met with individuals later charged in defeating our future fraud scheme.

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Fraud, yeah.

• 51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  A massive COVID era nonprofit fraud scandal, Holly claimed Ellison took campaign contribution totaling $10,000 from those individuals or their associates shortly after the meeting, saying the donations came nine days later. That's the exchange during COVID.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  To basically, to basically help them not get crazy sentences or, or look out for them.

• 51:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 51:39Speaker 04

  The question is, Pat, and, and he might be right. Is it all theatrics? Because unless he gets legitimately, uh, investigated, and if that's true, and he's taking those donations, he should be arrested. He should be put in jail. But it seems to me like people like Tim Walz, Ilhan Omar, they do whatever they want. They sit in front of the camera, they spit all this, all these threats and all this, you're Hitler, you're Nazi and, and, and weaponizing, uh, people to go in front of ICE. And nothing happens to them. Nothing happens. There's zero accountability. Ever.

• 52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  Ever.

• 52:08Tom Ellsworth?

  This is what upsets America is they believe that there's two, there's two systems of justice, this one and that one. I get a speeding ticket. We all get speeding tickets. That's what they feel and there's no way out. And then they feel that people that are robbing them blind, committing fraud and crimes of the highest order. High crimes and misdemeanors, they feel that people get off and this guy is on a congressional hearing. A performance like that at the congressional hearing with all the stuff that Holly was talking about should be referred to the Department of Justice for a formal investigation, grand jury behind closed doors, and indictments if this is what's happened. But this is not what happens because things are so corrupt, Pat, they can't get the grand jury together, they can't get the indictment brought down.

• 52:52Tom Ellsworth?

  These things should be happening, people should be in prison, Vinny. But he is sitting there, and look at the amount of hubris and the cockiness this guy's sitting there. And he is the first Muslim elected to Congress and was the first African-American representative. So he is there also protecting a tribe of like-minded individuals and they're all protected. Look at the cockiness even with backing off that Governor Walz still has. Look at that. It disgusts me, Pat. This should be referred to the Department of Justice and indictments should be brought down. But they don't happen. And this is where American people say, "Nothing's gonna happen and there's two systems of justice." And the American people sits at 17% confidence in all of it.

• 53:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, by the way, I found the recording, just so you guys know. The 54-minute and there's a shorter clip. I found a recording, I found a bunch of them, you know, on what he's saying on tapes. Rob, I just sent it to you. Do you have it?

• 53:51Speaker 21

  Yes.

• 53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Play one of them, let's see what he's saying here.

• 53:53Speaker 21

  I'm very concerned about it. I don't run the agencies. Absolutely. But let me just finish by saying, but often the agencies call on my lawyers to represent them. And so it's good that we're talking because we've been in a series of conversations with Jody Harpstead as late as a week ago on how you cannot crunch down on these... Because, here's the thing, as big as you are collectively, most are pretty small. And you're making, you're running small, tiny businesses out of business overnight.

• 54:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I just send it, you can pause it right here. Can you listen to the four I send? The entire 54 minutes there, but don't listen to the 54. In the four clips, see which one says the $10,000. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 54:41Adam Sosnick?

  So, here's my deal. Number one, Josh Hawley-

• 54:44Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, just to feed the future, this is the $250 million scandal that they got caught on.

• 54:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, that's a part of the 9 billion. But Hawley here specifically is targeting the 250 million and then saying you got $10,000 in contributions.

• 54:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so here's what I think about this guy Keith Ellison. Well, first, let's address the elephant in the room. Josh Hawley's a rock star. Whatever this guy wants to do politically, I think he's based in Missouri, I want to say. Correct. Wow, wow, we, wow, wow. This guy just made born for TV, good-looking, sharp, informed, like, all the good qualities. Let's see where this guy goes in his career. Number two, Keith Ellison, I'm so glad people are starting to learn this guy's name, because some people have probably heard it. You don't really know what this guy's about. This guy is where three major things meet. Progressivism and ultra-far-leftism meets with Islamism, meets with globalism. So if you want to understand why Minnesota is a complete

• 55:44Adam Sosnick?

  piece of crap burning in the streets, look no further than this guy. Now, we gotta give a shout-out to Tim Walz, he gets a lot of the reviews. We gotta give a shout-out to Ilhan Omar and marrying her brother and getting Somalis to continually vote for the Democratic Party. And we gotta give a shout-out to Jacob Frey for continuing to pander to the Somali community. We get it, they're all complicit, in my opinion, in the waste, fraud, and abuse, and specifically fraud. But Keith Ellison is the Attorney General. Is that his job?

• 56:13Speaker 04

  AG.

• 56:13Adam Sosnick?

  So if we're gonna, you know, heavy is the head that wears the crown, if we're gonna put everything on Bam Bondi, who's been there for one year, how about putting it on Keith Ellison, who's been a congressperson, congressman, and Attorney General for decades in Minnesota? So, tip of the spear goes no further than Keith Ellison. And you're right, he was the first Muslim, Tom, I believe, that was elected to Congress, swore on the Quran. Where do you think Mamdani got it from? And then he was also the person that I want to say was in charge of the Derek Chauvin, George Floyd thing. So if you want to thank anybody for making George Floyd the martyr on the left, look no further than Keith Ellison. This dude seems to me very corrupt, and I'm very glad that Josh Hawley is calling him out.

• 56:56Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, uh, let me see, what do we got here? Foreclosures, blood bat deepens as banks seize 40,000 homes in just one month, and the pain is only beginning. Forty thousand in one month. Let's see what Tom's got to say about this. With the number of Americans losing their homes to banks rising for an 11th straight month, it's clear the housing crisis is getting worse rather than better. The US foreclosure activity jumped again in January 2026 with a total of 40,534 properties facing foreclosure filings, a 32% increase from the same time last year. Foreclosure filing cover every stage of the process from the moment a lender

• 57:40Patrick Bet-David?

  issued a legal warning to the point a home is formally seized after missed mortgage payments. While the total was slightly lighter, uh, lower than, uh, uh, December, January still marked the 11th straight month, a rising year-over-year foreclosure activity, a clear sign the pressure is building, not easing. He said foreclosure starts, uh, foreclosure rising across the board, said Rob Barber, CEO of Atom. Uh, he said foreclosure starts when lenders formally begin to prospect taking back a home are up 26%, while completed repos have surged nearly 59%. Tom?

• 58:18Adam Sosnick?

  So I've been talking about this year that this case, this K-shaped economy we're in and what's happening with the consumer. Um, when I talk about 1.26, we're almost at 1.3 trillion of credit card debt.

• 58:32Tom Ellsworth?

  That is stress on the consumer. That means he can't pay for other things. And when core things have not come back down. Remember, inflation rate is now moderated. It's not rising anymore. But the prices from yesteryear are still very high in baskets of goods for the consumer. And so now the consumer is coming to the point, especially those, remember, this is repossession of homes. This isn't renters. These are homeowners. Homeowners that can no longer pay the mortgage. And you look year over year, the foreclosures are up. Foreclosure is like the final late notice. Vinny, you're 30 days late. You're 60 days late. You're 90 days late. Vinny, we're officially in foreclosure. We're foreclosing. In other words, we're going to shut down your mortgage.

• 59:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Then what happens to repossession? The repossession is up almost 60%. This is a sign of deep stress in the lowest, in the lower. And if you dive into these numbers, Pat, it's actually happening to the lower half of the middle class. And the lower half of the middle class are the wage earners that have less savings and less margin for error, less ability to get through a stress. And that's what's happening right now. You've got the lower half, Pat, is under deep stress. And remember, these are trailing stats. It takes in some states almost six months to complete a repo. So that means, Pat, these consumers have been under the stress for six months from miss one, miss two, miss three foreclosure, and then repo. The stress is building.

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  Any fixing it, Tommy? Like, what can?

• 1:00:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Patterns I want to see is what areas this is impacting? Is it? Because whenever you get numbers like this, you want to make sure, you know, you see where it is. Okay, so I just looked it up right now. Top 10 areas most affected by foreclosures, okay? Worst state is Delaware. 1,612 units. Second, by the way, who the hell would have thought Delaware? What is Delaware's population? If it's 1612 units and it's Delaware's population is what? Where is Delaware in population, period? One million people.

• 1:00:38Adam Sosnick?

  This is like from a...

• 1:00:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So what is the, what is the state with the least amount of population? What is the, what is the state with the least amount of people living there?

• 1:00:45Adam Sosnick?

  I thought it was North Dakota.

• 1:00:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Somewhere in the freezing northern Midwest. Least amount of population. Wherever it is it's cold. Montana. But, but the point is... Wyoming. Been there, lived there. Go back, go back to see who else is after Wyoming, Rob? Go, go a little bit lower, show more. Who's after Wyoming? Vermont in Alaska. Vermont. Okay, well Delaware has to be a top five. Basically when it's cold and north, nobody wants to be there. But to be number one and you're one of the smallest states? That means this is Delaware. Okay. Then you got Nevada is, okay, so Delaware was one per 1612 units. Nevada is one per 1983 units. Florida's one per 2000. Then it goes to South Carolina. Then it goes Maryland.

• 1:01:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, you know, these are, these are the ones that are most affected. Metro area, like if we go specific metro, not state. Trenton, Jersey is number one. Punta Gorda is Florida, Florida's number two. That's Jacksonville. Fayette, uh, Fayette, uh, how do you pronounce it? Fayetteville. Fayetteville, North Carolina's number three. Then you got Lakeland, Florida. Vallejo, California. Areas least affected, okay? Dakota, Montana, North Dakota, Wisconsin. Kansas, Vermont's all the way at the top, very low foreclosures. West Virginia, Alaska, Rhode Island, Nebraska.

• 1:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So what this means is places that are being affected are, uh, you know, we're, we're learning some of the states that are being affected by this. When California went through the whole negamp thing, remember what city and area everybody was talking about in California?

• 1:02:19Tom Ellsworth?

  San Bernardino where they built the excess homes and all the NINA loans.

• 1:02:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, Riverside, 64% of homes were in foreclosure. Vinny, you would drive in Riverside and all you would see is boards and houses. It was insane what happened, looked, looked like a desert. But we'll see what happened with this as it gets more focus on certain areas.

• 1:02:40Adam Sosnick?

  The, uh, I'm gonna go?

• 1:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, look, you know where I stand on owning a home, but if you're gonna do it... Be ready to stay in your home because 100% of foreclosures happen to people with mortgages. You know, you stop paying your rent, they kick you out, you're out of there. So if you stop paying your mortgage, the bank will basically start the legal process to take their house back. And then they're going to sell it to get money and usually takes six to 12 months. So if you're not ready to buy a home, this is what I always say, people think I'm against homeownership because I say to rent. Only do it if you're fully ready to commit to this. Because the last thing you want to do is get fed a bunch of lies, you gotta own a home, you gotta own a home. If you don't, if you're renting, you're throwing away money. And then you get a home and then you're in it for two years and then the bank gets it back.

• 1:03:27Adam Sosnick?

  So this is why, tell me if you've ever heard this before, you're not really a homeowner, you're a mortgage holder. The, the catch is you can become a homeowner if you position yourself correctly, save that money and invest the money correctly. But a lot of people own a home or buy a home before they're ready. And unfortunately, if you want to follow data, the bank just seized 40,000 homes this month. And the pain is only beginning. So be careful out there if you're a homeowner and make sure to pay your mortgage or it's going to be gone.

• 1:03:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I, I would say when you're buying a property, we had this conversation yesterday, one of my guys that wants to buy a house. I said, after you pay the down payment, do you have 12 months of expect, uh, expenses saved? No, don't do it. Very simple. If you don't have a, you buy a property, you think you have nothing else to fix? You don't think about the expenses that you're not thinking about. Buying a house comes with additional expenses as well. You gotta be ready for it. Let me get to this next part here. Wall Street roars higher after blockbuster jobs report. This is two days, three days old, Rob. Two days old. So I'm going to read it and then we can go to yesterday. Um, stocks on Wall Street surged after new figures showed the economy had had 130,000 jobs.

• 1:04:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Economists had expected Labor Department to report job growth at around 75, 75,000. Only a modest improvement of December's weak 50,000.

• 1:04:48Patrick Bet-David?

  January's unemployment came in at 4.3. They were expecting 4.4. They were at 4.4. They dropped. Tom, when you look at this Wall Street roars, then yesterday, Rob, if you can go on the market yesterday, how it performed. This was the market yesterday. Yesterday, the market lost $700 billion. Okay? You don't see green. Everything was red. Apple down 5%, Amazon down 2%, Tesla 2.5, you know, Meta 2.3, JP Morgan Chase 2.6, 2.7, Visa down a point, Mastercard down a point. Everybody was down a point. Cisco was down 11.8. Tom, what happened yesterday? And what do you think is going to happen moving forward with the market?

• 1:05:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Hey, Rob, will you pull up VIX one year? VIX one year, a chart on that. So yesterday, there was three things that came together and created a storm in the afternoon. The first was there was a lot of AI spooking on layoffs. Second, there was poor guidance by some of the big techs. And then third, everybody thought the CPI that was coming out today, Pat, was going to be higher, proving that, starting last April, all the tariffs by Trump created a problem. Well, guess what? The CPI, CPI, Consumer Price Index, came out today 3/10 lower than people thought it was going to come. Came out at 2.4. People were saying it's going to be 2.7, going to be 2.7.

• 1:06:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Consensus was really about 2.5, but it was actually now down 0.3 from the same time a year ago. So what that means is everyone that said, oh, gloom and doom on the tariffs, you know, this is going to create runaway inflation, the inflation now, Pat, a year later, is 3/10, Consumer Price Index, excuse me, is 3/10 lower than it was when Trump started the tariffs. So the one-year impact on tariffs as a boogeyman of inflation didn't come true. Today, the markets are back up a little bit, but let's also look at the VIX. So these are daily swings, big daily swings that are happening. Look at the VIX, Pat, one year. The VIX is holding around 21, which means that Americans are kind of neutral.

• 1:07:03Tom Ellsworth?

  The risk is, look what happened last April. See when the VIX shot up on, what did they call that Liberation Day, April 1st for tariffs? Look at what the VIX did. It went up over 50. Over 50 means that the market was incredibly nervous and scared. But see that? See how low the line is? That means even though we've had these market shifts, up a bit, down a bit, up a bit, down a bit, overall, the VIX is been under 21, except for a couple pops. And so that is what I look at, Pat. The mood of the wider market as measured by a technical like the VIX. You know, it's a nervous time, but guess what? If you take a look at the least impacted was the S and P.

• 1:07:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And the S and P over a long term, what do they say? Always a bad time to sell it. There's never a bad time to buy it over the extent of history for the S and P 500.

• 1:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to play this clip for you. So October 17th, 2022, we're doing a podcast.

• 1:08:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this a sidekick that you were talking about earlier?

• 1:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, this guy's a sidekick. Joe Biden's the president. Dow Jones on this day was at 30,000. Everyone's worried who's going to be the president next. Doom and gloom. You know, Trump is out. This is when they were hating on Trump. He's the worst. He's this. It's all his fault. And I made this prediction on the podcast. Go ahead, Rob. What happens the day after election? Everybody on the market's going to say the single biggest uptick in the history of the stock market, a single day is going to be said the day after election in 2024. Mark my words.

• 1:08:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:08:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And Dow's going to go to 50,000 in 2024, 2025, 2025.

• 1:08:39Tom Ellsworth?

  50,000. That's a bold prediction, Pat.

• 1:08:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Dow will go to 50,000 in 2025, 2026. Remember when I said this to you? I'm okay being wrong, and there's an 80, 90% chance I'm going to be wrong. But I'm telling you, Dow, in my opinion, I'm not telling you to do this. Talk to your experts. Talk to your accountant. Talk to your advisors. I'm banking on Dow's going to be 50,000 in 2025, 2026.

• 1:09:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:09:04Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's going to be a shit show in 2022, 2023.

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  Great, great. Well, if anybody wants any predictions, if anybody wants any psychic readings, hold them in the neck, hit a pat on the neck.

• 1:11:04Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, can I give you the reason I think you'll know this? Because you believe in America and you believe in the free markets and you believe in capitalism. And you believe that even if Trump is president, or Biden is president, or Obama, or whoever the next president is, you can still make money. You know, people come to ask me, dude, I'm on Minact, a lot of, reach me on Minact if you have questions. Man, I don't understand markets. I don't know what to do. I don't know. Well, if you're a day trader, you're gonna go insane. Because the markets go up every single day, red, green, red, green, we don't know. But over a decade, you're going to make money. Do you remember when COVID happened? Everyone thought the sky was falling. Six months later, all time highs.

• 1:11:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:43Adam Sosnick?

  I remember when we were in the lovely city of Addison and I was in the room where I used to shoot all the content there. Breaking news, the Dow just hit 30,000 after almost tumbling to closer to 15,000 or 18,000. But if you're, it's not timing the market, it's time in the market. So as much as you are a great prognosticator and predictor, the reality is you have data to show you that you should bet on America and you're not gonna lose.

• 1:12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know what it is? Equities. If you're in cash, listen, have cash, always have cash because like right now market dropped. I'm, you know, my guy and I were talking, I'm like, dude, how much more do you think it's gonna drop?

• 1:12:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there gonna be more discounted? But regardless, we're all going equities, equities, equities, equities, equities, long term, why?

• 1:12:30Adam Sosnick?

  Ask you a question on that?

• 1:12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Why? Why? Because, look, the thing about right now what they're saying, the dollar's gonna get weaker. That's the, that's the topic, right? Well, the dollar's gonna get weaker. The dollar's gonna get weaker. Okay, great. So if you, let's just say you know for a fact the dollar's gonna get weaker. Where should you put your money?

• 1:12:48Adam Sosnick?

  Gold, silver?

• 1:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Where else? Tom, if we know for a fact, let's just say the next three years dollar's gonna get so weak, where would you put your money?

• 1:12:56Adam Sosnick?

  Equities.

• 1:12:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Equities. Anywhere equities.

• 1:12:59Adam Sosnick?

  And equities are just another word for stock.

• 1:13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:01Adam Sosnick?

  Stock market.

• 1:13:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, equities.

• 1:13:03Adam Sosnick?

  Bet on the entrepreneurs.

• 1:13:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, if it's gonna go, you know, it's gonna be equities. If you're sitting on the sidelines, you know, for me, a year ago, year and a half ago, I called my guy. I said, hey, he says, what's up? I said, I want to find out what are the top five biggest?

• 1:13:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Startups or companies that are, you know, valuation, I gave them the range of where they're at that they specialize in nuclear energy. Who are they? So I got into the call with a Goldman's Nuclear Energy Department. We had a call together. And I got, you know, the names of the companies I like. I said, we're gonna go nuclear. Do you know the last 12 months, the best performing stocks I've had? It's nuclear. Really? Now, what do you think, again, guys, don't take my advice. I'm telling you what I'm doing. But you're a psychic. I, I'm not telling you to go do it. I'm telling you what I'm doing. Don't go say, well, you told me this. Now, one guy sends me a message, say, I put money in Palantir. You were right. A hundred thousand turned into, I don't know what the number he said, million, two million. I'm like, shit. Congratulations, right? We'll take 10%.

• 1:14:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but what I'm saying is, why, like, go and look at the nuclear side. Why, I don't know if I know for a fact that's gonna happen or not. Guess what is a big problem amongst all of these AI companies? What do you think they need? Energy and power. Yeah. And we can no longer get it the way we're doing it. So now, the biggest thing that the government has to do and these companies have to do, they have to get people to get more comfortable with what? The word nuclear. The word nuclear, and they've not done a good job, but they'll figure that out in the next three, five, 10 years. And then all of a sudden, you're gonna look at such and such company is officially valued at 1.3 trillion dollars. It was only worth 2.8 billion dollars. Now it's worth 1.3 trillion dollars. Wait, did you just say it 400xed? Yes, it 400xed.

• 1:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn. So if a person put a million dollars and it's not 400 million? Yes. Holy shit. That's how this works out, right? So to me, long-term equities, short-term, there's gonna be some of this bumpy ride that you're gonna go through. Yeah. You know, this is not an advice I would give to somebody that's in their 70s. This is not an advice to 70s or even 60s, unless if you're 60s and you have the body of a 47-year-old and you're a white Canadian guy who lives in Florida, your name is Tom Ellsworth, and you're so sexy that you can't live in Miami. God forbid if Tom walks in Miami, folks. I remember that. It is out of, let me tell you, I don't wanna embarrass Tom. Can we do this? Is this okay? Listen, I'll tell him. Me, Vinny and Tom and Adam are walking in Miami.

• 1:15:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, people think like Adams the girls, you know, there's levels to this game. Adam, girls see him, they like him, they're attracted to him. But God forbid when women see Tom. When they see Tom, his windshield, car is filled with Victoria's Secret lingerie, thrown at his car.

• 1:15:50Adam Sosnick?

  Remember we almost crashed?

• 1:15:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm like, listen, you know what, I went and whispered to his wife, I said, listen, you guys can never live in Miami.

• 1:15:55Adam Sosnick?

  That's true.

• 1:15:55Patrick Bet-David?

  If there's a city you guys can't live in, you're better moving to Stewart.

• 1:15:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You're better moving to Jacksonville.

• 1:16:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You're better moving to some of these small cities, you know, north of Jupiter. But God forbid if Tom moves to Miami.

• 1:16:06Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my.

• 1:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Too much.

• 1:16:07Adam Sosnick?

  Husbands from their wives, go.

• 1:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Go.

• 1:16:09Adam Sosnick?

  Go.

• 1:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Suck this guy.

• 1:16:11Adam Sosnick?

  I've seen it with my own eyes, Pat.

• 1:16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:13Adam Sosnick?

  People think that Tom and I don't hang out because there's an issue. I don't need him stepping on my turf.

• 1:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:17Adam Sosnick?

  Taking all my lady friends down there. Well, when you pull up some Alvin and the Ferrari and throw your keys and they know.

• 1:16:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Too much.

• 1:16:24Adam Sosnick?

  I know.

• 1:16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know what, there's this guy they call Bad Bunny.

• 1:16:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom's a crazy bunny, let me tell you, the ladies call him Crazy Bunny, but anyways.

• 1:16:31Adam Sosnick?

  But they don't call him funny, they call him the bunny. Oh, okay, okay, okay. By the way, Adam, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mess with any of your lady friends, Adam, at least, at least until the antibiotics kick in. So it's the.

• 1:16:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Still the antibiotics.

• 1:16:44Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. Like I said, not funny, gentlemen.

• 1:16:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's a.

• 1:16:47Adam Sosnick?

  The dad jokes are.

• 1:16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, we were doing so well to change Tom's algorithm on Menex is getting. And then he gave the antibiotic joke, go back to Boomer's Menexnum. All right, let me, let me, let me go back to the next story, all right. So, Super Bowl, stories came in, check this out. Um, Tom, I'm probably gonna come to you with this one here for Super Bowl numbers. Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show leads to massive decline in viewership, new report comes in. I don't know what this new report is, but Rob, let's go to it anyways. On what the numbers are, because I pulled it up this morning, um. Do you have it, Rob? Is this where it shows the numbers? Yes. Let me just read this here. Do you have it? Okay. Boom. So, per tracking, okay.

• 1:17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So, zoom in a little. Delivered another massive night television and the data. Our latest viewership insight reveals 48.6 million US households tune into the Super Bowl, representing a 13% decrease from last year's game. Is that real, Rob? This according to Outkick, which I believe is owned by Fox News. 26 and a half million US households watched. Can you press watch more? Just to see show more, Rob, on the bottom, so I can read the rest of it?

• 1:17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, Rob, go up. Right there where it says show more. Rob, on the tweet, it says show more, Rob. Yeah.

• 1:18:05Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, please don't yell at my friend, Rob. I mean, he's trying the best he can.

• 1:18:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, 99.9% of the time, he's flawless. So, all right, let me get to this. NFL's decision to book bad money for Super Bowl halftime show was almost immediately controversial. Da, da, da, da, da. I just want the numbers. Uh, there were several ratings now available. Super Bowl, with one source, Samba TV, uh, prepared, uh, perpetrating, uh, to measure the numbers of households, per their tracking, 48.6 million households, which represents a 13% decline. According to their estimates, 26 and a half million households watched the halftime show, whopping 39% decline from Kendrick Lamar's halftime show. What are these estimates, Rob? Because when I go, and, and if you ask on ChatGPT, okay? Go to ChatGPT, Rob, and type in

• 1:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  top five most viewed halftime shows of all time. What comes up? Top five most viewed halftime shows of all time. What comes up? Number one is, oh, really? Katy Perry, number one? 121 million?

• 1:19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  121 million, number two? No, no, that's not the right math. Then why would they put Katy Perry up top?

• 1:19:17Adam Sosnick?

  That doesn't make any sense.

• 1:19:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I have Kendrick Lamar, number one. 133 and a half million viewers.

• 1:19:23Adam Sosnick?

  Sounds right.

• 1:19:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Michael Jackson, I have number two, 133.4. 20 years, over 20 years ago, with smaller audiences. Tom, 33 years ago. Holy, yeah. 1993. Think about the population of... 1993, 33 years ago. And he almost beat Lamar by 100,000. Then you have Usher. 129.3. Then you have, uh, Rihanna, 121. What was, trying to see, where was Bad Bunny's? Where was Bad Bunny's numbers?

• 1:19:58Patrick Bet-David?

  For halftime. Do you have it, Rob? What it says Bad Bunny? So I've seen so many different reports with what they're showing with Bad Bunny's reports. 128.2 is where I see. And Jake, where does that rank?

• 1:20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Fourth or fifth? Okay, so he, so does it surprise you that we dropped from Lamar to Bad Bunny? Are you not surprised? Is Lamar bigger than Bad Bunny?

• 1:20:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm actually very surprised that Kendrick Lamar beat Bad Bunny. Kendrick Lamar won, who played in the Super Bowl last year? Was it a big Super Bowl?

• 1:20:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was it?

• 1:20:39Adam Sosnick?

  Well, last year was, who the hell?

• 1:20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Chiefs.

• 1:20:44Adam Sosnick?

  Chiefs, exactly.

• 1:20:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Philly beat, Philly beat.

• 1:20:46Adam Sosnick?

  Philly won last year.

• 1:20:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Kansas City bad.

• 1:20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, and then have another report, Rob, if you want to, if you want to pull it. This is a very interesting stat. That Humberto sends us because Humberto likes to track people that go to the bathroom a lot. He does it here all the time. But he tracks it for people for Super Bowl, Rob, if you do, see that story or not?

• 1:21:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, I got it.

• 1:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This story here from Newsweek shows. Do you see it? There you go. Water use stats in major US city show impact of Super Bowl halftime show. Go a little bit lower. The nouveau y'all singer boasts a massive following with 53.2 million Instagram followers. I want to know what the numbers are for the bathroom, Rob. There it is. So. New York City saw significant reduction in water usage, five Super Bowl Bad Bunny's halftime yesterday and 50 minutes after the show. Uh, 761,000 toilets flushing across town. So what they're doing is they're, I just got it. So people who are watching the show in different cities. They track how many people walked away from the TV. To go flush the toilet.

• 1:21:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So they just, he just broke the record right there. Early reports suggest that Bad Bunny broke a record of 135.4 million viewers that stepped away to flush the toilet. Versus Kendrick Lamar.

• 1:22:08Speaker 04

  What a stat.

• 1:22:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What a stupid stat.

• 1:22:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's so dumb.

• 1:22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  133.3, making it the most wives around that show of all time. The NFL has yet to confirm a show, no, no, that's a different number. Anyways, we got, we gotta get to the bottom of the story because.

• 1:22:20Speaker 04

  I peed. I mean, I, I, don't you remember? I got up, I left and I came back.

• 1:22:23Patrick Bet-David?

  But that doesn't, you always pee.

• 1:22:25Speaker 04

  I know I pee.

• 1:22:25Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not like it's a big thing here.

• 1:22:26Speaker 04

  Sorry, I apologize.

• 1:22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, we still don't know what happened there, but it was number four, number five.

• 1:22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  All time Super Bowl. Vinny, is there anything you want to say about?

• 1:22:34Speaker 04

  His voice. How, I don't know if you guys.

• 1:22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to play that voice?

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  If there's any way Rob has two guys.

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  And that's real, right?

• 1:22:41Speaker 04

  And it's 100% real. AI just takes away the beat.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do a cappella both of them or no?

• 1:22:46Speaker 04

  Can we, Rob?

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  One of them is.

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  I don't think it's a problem because it's just the vocals. It's not the actual music.

• 1:22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is the left Super Bowl or no?

• 1:22:54Speaker 04

  I'm pretty sure the left's Super Bowl.

• 1:22:56Speaker 02

  I'm not sure where the left.

• 1:22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think it is.

• 1:22:57Speaker 04

  Oh, I know that there's one where he is a cappella at the Super Bowl.

• 1:23:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I have it.

• 1:23:01Speaker 04

  Okay, they take out the beat, but I'll let Rob, yeah, let's wait for this. But if you guys want to talk, and I get it, it's a performance. He's walking around. He has to be mobile. Well, Michael Jackson on stage was still singing and not lip syncing even back then. And I just want people to know this. His voice singing without the beat is the funniest thing I've heard.

• 1:23:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I just, I just want to make sure because it's unfair if you do a, a.

• 1:23:27Speaker 04

  Well, we, yes, well, Pat, we could just.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I have it. I have it.

• 1:23:29Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:23:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob. First show Bad Bunny's and then we'll do Michael Jackson.

• 1:23:32Speaker 04

  Just show Bad Bunny's.

• 1:23:43Speaker 03

  Muchas no, yo tengo una, una, otro. Ay, me la voy a llevar a la tona, para VIP, VIP. Ay, saludan a Titi.

• 1:23:52Speaker 24

  My mother always told me, be careful who you love. And be careful what you do. Until the lie becomes the truth. Hey, the feeling is not my love.

• 1:24:03Speaker 03

  Muchas no, yo tengo una...

• 1:24:05Adam Sosnick?

  There's no difference.

• 1:24:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got an amazing.

• 1:24:08Adam Sosnick?

  Uh.

• 1:24:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Michael Jackson, amazing, one of a kind.

• 1:24:12Adam Sosnick?

  That was dope, he's a king.

• 1:24:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Folks, who's watching this right now, who's ever been to a Michael Jackson concert? Comment below. Rob, can you run a poll? Who has been to a Michael Jackson concert? Yes, no? I just wanted to know how many people we have. I asked people here, who's been to a Michael Jackson concert? Vinnie said no, Adam said no, of course.

• 1:24:34Adam Sosnick?

  Tom.

• 1:24:35Patrick Bet-David?

  The rich man in the room says seven times. Tom Ellsworth, I've been to seven times.

• 1:24:39Adam Sosnick?

  Seven?

• 1:24:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Michael Jackson.

• 1:24:40Adam Sosnick?

  Well, we were children when he was... Still are. ...performing.

• 1:24:46Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, Tom also, Tom also went to a Beethoven concert.

• 1:24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That was good, I give that one.

• 1:24:52Adam Sosnick?

  That's good. Tom also went to a Beethoven concert, so it's like, of course he's been to, he's at times. But can I, listen, Pat, you said something last week that I just want to echo. When did we stop being proud of our heritage? Like, you defended Bad Bunny almost, not so much what he stands for, his ideology, but for his love of where he's from. Like, I'm not advocating that you should love Bad Bunny, but you definitely shouldn't hate Bad Bunny, because he's Puerto Rican and speaks Spanish. By the way, fun fact, Puerto Rico is a US territory. It's like getting mad at Andrea Pochelli performing because you, why is this guy singing in Italian? What the hell is this guy talking about? Yeah, because he's Italian. So, you know what's very interesting?

• 1:25:36Adam Sosnick?

  I was at Mar-a-Lago the other night, and it was the Hispanic, it was called, um...

• 1:25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  The Jewish Hispanic...

• 1:25:43Adam Sosnick?

  Hispanic Gala? No, it was not. Um, it was, uh... Latino Wall Street. So was all these successful, yeah, there you go. It was all these successful Latinos, Hispanics.

• 1:25:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I shoot.

• 1:25:56Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to Tony Delgado. Yeah, if you want to, if you want to punch in on the, the shoes, you can see the future looks bright. I don't know why you're so focused on my belt area, Rob, but you know, that's your pant thing. But it was so interesting to me because you have all these conservative Latinos. And the talk of the town was, so what do you think about Bad Bunny? What do you think about Bad Bunny? The guy who's hosting it, Tony, is Puerto Rican. So they're so conflicted because they love America, but they also are proud of their heritage. So I think we need to stop crapping on people that are, everyone had a flag. Everyone had a Colombian flag, a Venezuelan flag, Cuban flag, Brazilian flag. I had a American flag.

• 1:26:38Patrick Bet-David?

  With an L.

• 1:26:38Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, there were some of those types too. I stayed away from them.

• 1:26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You said three of the words.

• 1:26:42Adam Sosnick?

  That's true. Flag, flag, flag, flag. I don't want to hit a red flag here. But the point is this, you know that one thing they all had in common? That maybe Bad Bunny doesn't?

• 1:26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 1:26:52Adam Sosnick?

  They all love America.

• 1:26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:26:54Adam Sosnick?

  They all fled these other countries, socialism, totalitarianism. That's what it comes down to.

• 1:26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it is? Man, you know, if you love America, I love America, you love America. I don't care where you're from. We're on the same page.

• 1:27:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that is the biggest problem. And by the way, again, we watch this stuff because this story of flushing toilets when Humberto brought it up to me. I've met a lot of people that track different kind of data. You track how many drinks you sell. You track how many cigars you sell. You track how many merch you sell. You track how many client consulting things with you. How many people attending? I've never met anybody more analytical than Humberto that tracks how many times you flush a toilet. Okay, like, end of the day, you'll say, you know, Vinnie flushed a toilet seven times today. Who cares about this kind of stuff? Humberto does, and I respect it. So to me, Bad Bunny coming out and doing his thing with his performance, awesome. Just say you love America. At the end, he showed the ball, that America, all this other stuff in a flag, great. Could have been bigger, great. Let's move on.

• 1:27:49Adam Sosnick?

  It wasn't as bad as people perceived it to be.

• 1:27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought it was going to be worse. No, no, no. I thought it was going to be worse. And I was straight up saying, hey, he came out and he did his thing. I'm good.

• 1:27:58Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, shout out to Turning Point USA for turning that.

• 1:28:01Speaker 04

  Event in three months, they put that thing together.

• 1:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to somebody else that some people wonder whether he loves America or not. And that's Mamdani. Mamdani here comes out, he meets with the Minneapolis mayor in New York City to discuss protecting immigrants. Okay, alright, allegedly that's the discussion. Rob, do you want to show this clip?

• 1:28:24Speaker 25

  We're looking to determine some of the next steps here. We want to make sure that what happened in Minneapolis does not happen in other cities and states throughout the country. We want to make sure that our immigrant neighbors are protected and mayors work together, you know? We're all operating in the reality business. And the reality is what just happened with Operation.

• 1:28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  He's well spoken, say what you want to say.

• 1:28:48Speaker 25

  Is not okay.

• 1:28:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Well spoken.

• 1:28:50Speaker 25

  Is anti-American.

• 1:28:50Speaker 04

  How do you prevent that? How do you prevent that?

• 1:28:53Speaker 25

  Well, a lot of what it is, is it's local governments working directly with their constituencies. And what you saw in Minneapolis is tens of thousands of people.

• 1:29:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The question is, do they work with the federal government?

• 1:29:06Speaker 04

  Did he say woke governments?

• 1:29:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no constituency, local government, not woke.

• 1:29:10Speaker 04

  Local governments.

• 1:29:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, thoughts on this? The meeting between Mamdani and them, by the way, while this is going on Mamdani also came out asking for an additional 2%. I don't know if you saw that.

• 1:29:21Speaker 04

  Wait, are you saying he's asking for more money? Additional. Wait, more money?

• 1:29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, what's wrong with that? He needs more money. Because he just came out and I know you're probably not happy that he said he wasn't going to. Yeah. But now he wants to. Rob, is this the clip, Rob?

• 1:29:36Speaker 02

  This is where he's asked about the 2% increase for millionaires in New York City and whether or not they're going to raise property taxes as well.

• 1:29:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, why don't you play the clip, Rob?

• 1:29:44Speaker 26

  I have two questions. First of all, I want to talk to you about the death that happened because of the cold. And we previously were able to get information from the NYPD. Now it's only coming from City Hall. I'm wondering why the policy changed. My second question has to do with the budget. I know that you want to have Albany pass these tax hikes on corporations and on the wealthy. But if they refuse to do it, given the fact that it's an election year and the governor said she doesn't want to do it. Well, you have no other choice but to raise the only tax you can raise, which is the property tax.

• 1:30:17Speaker 27

  So I am encouraged by the conversations we've been having, not only with the governor, but also with legislative leaders in Albany. And these are conversations about putting the city back on firm financial footing. When I was standing here in this room weeks ago announcing the fact that our conclusions were coming to the same level of assessment, at the very least, as the previous city controller, the current city controller, and the current state controller, we also said that we would then be updating those assessments as we got more information about Wall Street bonuses, as we got more information about the economic forecasts, and as we also took savings measures of our own. And so in that time since, as I shared yesterday in Albany, that $12 billion deficit is now one that we have been able to bring down to $7 billion.

• 1:31:00Speaker 27

  And that's in part because of the revenues, the Wall Street bonuses, also an aggressive savings plan and a use of in-year reserves. I am encouraged by the conversations we're having with Albany about how we can-

• 1:31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You're positive right there. Vinnie, go ahead. I know you like him a lot, so-

• 1:31:14Speaker 04

  I'm just, I'm just wondering, all those people that I saw on all these podcasts and all these talking about, "I'll pay the 1%." Okay, so now it's gonna be 2%. What percent is it gonna have to hit for people and the New Yorkers and the people with the, "I got the money, I'll pay for it," for them to start talking out and speaking out? Because the city looks like crap, the garbage is in the streets, he had, he had a winter storm, and over 13 to 15 homeless people died because he took out the order to have them sheltered, because he's like, "No, leave them outside." They're still, I saw them chopping ice from the streets still, two days ago, Pat. It looks like they're in Antarctica, okay? He's not running it right, he's still asking for freaking money, he's speaking Arabic as if that's the language of freaking New York, and it's just, it's not, nothing? Tell me one thing that's positive that's happening.

• 1:31:59Speaker 04

  I'll wait. Anybody? Give me one positive thing coming out of New York. Go ahead.

• 1:32:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, when he, when he talks, believe what he's saying. Because he said savings, and they've limited, they've, they, take a look at what was happening a week ago, where there were pictures in multiple boroughs of the trash that was building up. And that there were, there were trash shifts that didn't happen, uh, because they were gonna require overtime shifts. And you can see where they're cutting it. And they're cutting it, they're supposed to be serving the citizens, but they were cutting. Look at that picture!

• 1:32:26Speaker 04

  Look at that.

• 1:32:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at that picture.

• 1:32:28Speaker 04

  That's how you're saving money.

• 1:32:29Tom Ellsworth?

  They wouldn't do the overtime because the trash pickup went slower, Pat, because of the icy streets. So they wouldn't give the overtime to the trash collection-

• 1:32:35Speaker 04

  They're saving money.

• 1:32:36Tom Ellsworth?

  -because they needed it, because they wanted to save money.

• 1:32:37Speaker 04

  Great.

• 1:32:38Tom Ellsworth?

  There's your savings, ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:32:39Speaker 04

  Bingo.

• 1:32:40Tom Ellsworth?

  There's your savings. The rats are breeding under the warmth of that pile of trash.

• 1:32:45Adam Sosnick?

  This is horrible.

• 1:32:46Speaker 04

  And Tom, I was just wondering, where are the New Yorkers?

• 1:32:48Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, and some savings. We also got some savings.

• 1:32:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, he said it went from 12 billion to 7 billion. Yeah, because that's what the city looks like, you moron. Look at that.

• 1:32:58Adam Sosnick?

  And I'm gonna keep talking about this because Eric deserves credit. There was, I researched it. We saw him in Washington DC. He told us about the surplus. I did research. He did. He left a multi-billion dollar surplus.

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  Eric Adams.

• 1:33:11Adam Sosnick?

  Eric Adams. Mondami has vaporized, and now he's looking for even more. This is a guy, Mondami. If Mondami ran a funeral home, no one would die. I mean, this is basically what we have. Just incompetence of leadership, and now the solution is, "I don't know how to run it. I don't know how to fix it. I don't know how to set the budget." So guess what? Let's just raise the tax. This is what you voted for. Get ready. Buckle up.

• 1:33:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you say his name one more time?

• 1:33:39Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 1:33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Say his name one more time.

• 1:33:40Speaker 04

  The mayor.

• 1:33:41Adam Sosnick?

  Mondami.

• 1:33:42Speaker 04

  Mondami. Mondami.

• 1:33:45Adam Sosnick?

  Doni?

• 1:33:45Speaker 04

  Mondami. Like, Mondami.

• 1:33:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Mondami.

• 1:33:49Speaker 04

  Mondo-ami, moma-ma-ami.

• 1:33:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead. Uh, Adam, go ahead.

• 1:33:54Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it's kind of like everyone's building out their team. Like, if you're drafting a team, you have the Mondanis, and you have the AOCs, and you have the Jacob Freys, and you have the Ilhan Omars. That's their squad. Literally. Like, that's them. You know, there used to be a time where you used to, like, "Are you a communist? Keep it on the down-low, bro. Don't tell anybody."

• 1:34:14Patrick Bet-David?

  He's proud.

• 1:34:15Adam Sosnick?

  "You're a socialist." "We are proud democratic socialists. Stand with me, and all our socialists unite." They're saying the quiet part out loud. You know, it's, you might disagree with how Trump does things, but at this point, it's so clear. The guy loves America. He's America first. And whoever you want to put in the America first camp, whether that's JD Vance, Marco Rubio, Josh Hawley, name the names. Put them on a, like, you know how you do a side-by-side, tail of the tape? These guys believe in capitalism, biblical Judeo-Christian values, God-fearing, community, family. These people are all woke leftists that are selling socialism. And people are buying it. So, you know, you get what you pay for.

• 1:35:00Adam Sosnick?

  And unfortunately, Minnesota bought and paid for this ridiculous mayor, and Ilhan Omar. And New York just bought and is now paying the price for Zoran Mondani. And they're gonna end up losing in the long run.

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• 1:37:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Results, results, results, results. Cow she yesterday came out. I don't know if you guys saw this or not, Rob. If you want to go to, uh...

• 1:37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Kelsey, go to my Twitter account on, uh, it, it, Kelsey tweeted something which I, it's, it's so interesting. Oh, this is good. Remember when we were talking about, uh, uh, actually go to the one above it, Rob, first? Keep going one more up, one more up, one more up, there you go, right there. So Kelsey just tweeted yesterday that California lost a trillion dollars in wealth due to billionaires leaving. This is in the last six weeks, Vinny. Oh, my God. Okay? During COVID, they lost over a trillion dollars. This is the only state in America that on two separate occasions lost a trillion dollars of wealth, leaving its state. Go a little bit lower, Rob, on the other Kelsey tweet that they had.

• 1:37:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, no, go back on the tweet and then go down, there you go. Watch this. Kelsey just tweeted, Mark Zuckerberg relocates to Florida from California, avoiding the new wealth tax. Yep. Newsom is doing a phenomenal job, losing his job creators. Can you imagine that? Jeez. Newsom is doing a great job, losing job creators, but there's one person he hasn't lost, his wife. Oh. In this hearing, in this, uh, what do you call it, press conference? Yes. Uh, what was it, ninety-two million dollars? Ninety, ninety million dollars. Planned Parenthood, this is what you call an alpha wife, very impressive. She stepped up, she crushed, by the way, she's very well spoken, I'm, I'm not even being sarcastic, she's actually well spoken.

• 1:38:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this here, when she steps up at a Planned Parenthood, they're crushing it. So, listen, if you're in California, you want to make money, ladies, come up with some pink jackets, people will buy, look at this picture right here, there's massive demand for pink jackets and pink sweaters. Rob, play this clip. He's pink, here comes Yoko.

• 1:38:50Speaker 30

  We, we just find it incredulous that, um, we have Planned Parenthood here, and women are fifty-one percent of the population, and the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. So, it's just fascinating, you have this incredible women's caucus and all these allies, and you're not asking about it, and this happens over and over and over and over again. You wonder why we have such a horrific war on women in this country, and that these guys are getting away with it, because you don't seem to care. So I just offer that, with love.

• 1:39:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at his face. Look at his face.

• 1:39:25Speaker 30

  These are your incredible women in this room. And your allies. Ask about what we're here for today.

• 1:39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's happy or annoyed?

• 1:39:34Tom Ellsworth?

  No. There's no way. He turned the color of everybody's shirt. You do not have to be an FBI profiler to see that he did not like that.

• 1:39:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think he found that sexy?

• 1:39:42Tom Ellsworth?

  He didn't want Yoko going to the microphone.

• 1:39:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you cannot tell me he didn't find that sexy. Like, he didn't say, "Man, I am so happy to be with an alpha." That, you don't think he found that sexy?

• 1:39:50Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, that's not what he finds sexy. What he finds sexy is his friend's wife drunk on his doorstep and then bang her on the couch. He finds that very sexy.

• 1:39:58Adam Sosnick?

  That is, that's Tom Ellsworth, ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:40:01Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's history. I'm quoting from history.

• 1:40:03Adam Sosnick?

  That's true. Uh, why is Gavin Newsom doing this with his wife right here? Because it works, and it will continue to work. You know, more women in this country vote than men. And what is the one issue that the Democrats can say, "We do better than the Republicans"? That's abortion.

• 1:40:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Killing babies.

• 1:40:22Adam Sosnick?

  That's their thing. That's their thing.

• 1:40:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Innocent baby.

• 1:40:25Adam Sosnick?

  You know, and I'm not saying that women shouldn't vote, but we may want to consider it at some point.

• 1:40:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Jeez.

• 1:40:30Adam Sosnick?

  You know, I'm just saying.

• 1:40:32Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, by the way.

• 1:40:35Adam Sosnick?

  This guy's talking about doing things on a couch. I'm just saying, we're joking, guys, but here's the deal. Let me, uh, let me explain what I had a call on Manect, because you talked about the wealth thing.

• 1:40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:40:45Adam Sosnick?

  This is a real-life example. People want to talk about, you know, Zuckerberg and Bezos and the Google Boys. Yes, they're moving their companies, hundreds of billions of dollars moving. Here's a real-life guy. Started a small business. Shout out to you, Ben. I had a call with him on Manect on, uh, Wednesday. He said, "Listen, man, I'm moving to Florida, and I wanted to reach out to you, because I know that you're born and raised in Miami, South Florida. Tell me what you do." I go, "Disclaimer, I'm not a real..."

• 1:41:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I asked him to Manect you.

• 1:41:11Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, perfect. Thank you.

• 1:41:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Last name starts with R.

• 1:41:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, it is. Thank you. He told me that. So I had a half-hour call with him. I said, "Explain to him before I tell you about what's going on in Florida."

• 1:41:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:20Adam Sosnick?

  "Shout out to you, buddy." I said, "Explain to me why you're not staying in California." He goes, "Honestly, dude, there's zero incentive."

• 1:41:29Adam Sosnick?

  For me to stay. You know, you tell the story about when you got recruited by Governor Perry to Texas. Everything's recruitment. Come on down to Florida. This is where woke goes to die. Mayor, shout out to Mayor Suarez. Hey, how can I help? I said, what is Gavin Newsom or Karen Bass or anything? What are they doing to keep you in California? What are they doing to keep you in LA? He goes, dude, absolutely nothing. They're actually driving us away. So how many more stories like that exist? We hear the billionaires. This guy has seven to 10 people in his corporate office, 100 employees, and he's moving to Florida. And he's, and he mannequined me after the call. He goes, thanks so much, man. Super helpful. Who says you need a Realtor to relocate?

• 1:42:14Adam Sosnick?

  So all good. But how many more types of those situations are going to come up? Guys, I'll say this again.

• 1:42:20Speaker 04

  Don't.

• 1:42:20Adam Sosnick?

  The future is in Florida.

• 1:42:22Speaker 04

  Why, why?

• 1:42:22Adam Sosnick?

  Come on down. Come on down to Miami.

• 1:42:25Speaker 04

  I do not want to bring all the leftists and all these people with their mentalities. No, no, no.

• 1:42:30Adam Sosnick?

  Buddy, didn't you come from? Didn't you come from California?

• 1:42:33Speaker 04

  Hold on, Adam, how many years ago? I'm saying right now, we're good. Stay there and make your state better.

• 1:42:40Adam Sosnick?

  You sound like James Fishback.

• 1:42:41Speaker 04

  Make, well, I'm from New York, lived in Connecticut, moved to California. This is here. What I'm saying is right now, we're good. Make your state better. It's easy. Hold on, vote, vote for the right people.

• 1:42:52Adam Sosnick?

  The guy who moved here three years ago. We're good, guys.

• 1:42:54Speaker 04

  Four, four.

• 1:42:55Adam Sosnick?

  We're good, guys.

• 1:42:55Speaker 04

  Four years.

• 1:42:56Adam Sosnick?

  You know what? Take it from the guy who's been here my whole life.

• 1:42:59Speaker 04

  If you want to take.

• 1:43:00Patrick Bet-David?

  In three months, it'll be four years.

• 1:43:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, hold on. I've been, I've been here four years.

• 1:43:03Patrick Bet-David?

  In three months or it's already four years?

• 1:43:04Speaker 04

  I think May was four years.

• 1:43:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, May will be four years.

• 1:43:07Adam Sosnick?

  Fantastic.

• 1:43:08Speaker 04

  Okay, so May will be four years. Here's my thing.

• 1:43:10Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, that's what's crazy. Yesterday, I'm sitting there, Connor's telling me he's been here for three years. I said, there's no way you've been, I thought Connor was here like six weeks ago. Connor's been here three years.

• 1:43:18Speaker 04

  Exactly. So here's my thing.

• 1:43:20Adam Sosnick?

  It's Ivan's first month, I want to say. Shout out to Ivan.

• 1:43:23Speaker 04

  First of all.

• 1:43:23Adam Sosnick?

  Five years later.

• 1:43:24Speaker 04

  First of all, I want everybody to know, going back to the video that we saw. She right now, her name is Jen Newsom, she's the first partner. That's what they call her when you're the, she's the first partner.

• 1:43:34Adam Sosnick?

  She's not the first wife?

• 1:43:35Speaker 04

  No, guys, no, no, she's the first partner, Jennifer Siebel Newsom. I hope you guys understand, he's the frontrunner.

• 1:43:42Adam Sosnick?

  Potential first lady right there.

• 1:43:43Speaker 04

  This could be the potential first lady, moving her husband to the side. And he didn't want it, and he just stays there, he wasn't laughing, he wasn't smiling. And she's running the show, just like how Jill Biden was kind of running the show when, you know, walking zombie.

• 1:43:57Adam Sosnick?

  Do you have other pictures of her, Rob?

• 1:43:58Speaker 04

  Uh, but here's my, yeah, by the way, she has a history where she accused Harvey Weinstein of something assault in a hotel room, long story short, anyway, that.

• 1:44:06Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you something, buddy.

• 1:44:07Speaker 04

  Put that all the way to the side.

• 1:44:08Adam Sosnick?

  You put that lady on the campaign trail.

• 1:44:10Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:44:11Adam Sosnick?

  And attractive white women, white liberal women are gonna eat that up.

• 1:44:14Speaker 04

  Well, that's what, well, that's what, oh, on top of, add to the top of that, I want everybody to know what the context of what she did. By the way, you're in a war room, meaning there's reporters, there's females, the majority of them were females, their job is to ask questions on everything, that's what the decorum is about. She didn't like it, and she basically comes out and what she was actually saying is, hey, shame on all of your reporters for talking to my husband about how failed of a state California is, how horrible of a governor my husband is, wasting $24 billion on homelessness, and it actually rose, wasting billions of dollars on the rail system, highest taxes on gas, highest taxes, trillion dollars of people leaving, we want to celebrate murdering innocent babies, shame on you.

• 1:44:56Speaker 04

  If you're not talking about killing babies, shut up, because that's what we're here to do.

• 1:45:00Adam Sosnick?

  That's true.

• 1:45:01Speaker 04

  Period, that's what she was saying.

• 1:45:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And what, you know what, well, we can, we can bring this right about back to Puerto Rico. Um, in the last 48 hours.

• 1:45:10Patrick Bet-David?

  She looks like a first lady, though.

• 1:45:11Speaker 04

  She does, she has to look.

• 1:45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  She looks like a Democratic first lady.

• 1:45:15Speaker 04

  Thousand percent.

• 1:45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, you can both criticize policies and still say, this is the leading candidate of the first lady on the opposing side, just so you know, get used to this, folks.

• 1:45:27Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:45:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:45:28Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what, what's really interesting in this, um, that was at this, you know. This rally for abortion, this horrible, horrible black genocide that they keep propagating. Glad to see that Gavin Newsom wants to be the flag carrier for that. I look at Puerto Rico, what happened in the last 48 hours, Pat. There was a legislator in Puerto Rico that pushed to get a motion through to declare that unborn babies are human beings and should be protected. And so, we're talking about Puerto Rico today, talking about being a territory of the United States, we're talking about a lot of things, and I was really proud to see this, to see them standing up, and there it is.

• 1:46:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It says, "Puerto Rico Governor Signs Law Recognizing Unborn Babies as Human Beings." God bless him. God bless you, Jennifer Gonzalez.

• 1:46:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Fantastic. Are you serious? Jennifer? Watch, everyone's now gonna say, "Bring Bad Bunny next year."

• 1:46:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. All of a sudden, "Dale, Dale, Bad Bunny, we like you now." Hang on, can I go back to that and say something serious? Bad Bunny saying, "Only in Spanish," which is his brand, which he said he was gonna do. But I think that was just a bad choice by the NFL to do it that way. Because you can celebrate the rich Hispanic heritage of so many Americans. We all come from somewhere in America, we all come from somewhere. My heritage on my dad's side is Canadian. And what's interesting about it is, you can recognize our diversity and celebrate it. You know what we did? You know what Pat did? 50% of the agents, a little over 50% of the agents at PHP, life insurance agents that

• 1:47:09Tom Ellsworth?

  have licenses and thriving, says, "Have Hispanic heritage." And over 50% of them are women. And to celebrate the diversity in everything we have, you know, Pat used to bring entertainment and acts. And do you know what a great reception Nicki Jams got, also from Puerto Rico? It was tremendous. And so, you can do this in such a way that you serve the broad audience, and you serve everyone. What the NFL did, eh, it just didn't work. But meanwhile, in Puerto Rico, you got a brave governor that is standing up and doing this, and I applaud her.

• 1:47:47Speaker 04

  Tom, can I ask you a question? Well, yeah, well, think about it, the tale of two gents. That's Jennifer here, the other one wants to kill them. Hey, that was a good one. Thank you. But here's my question. So, if he's saying the law is unborn babies as human beings, does that mean abortion is murder? What is that saying?

• 1:48:02Tom Ellsworth?

  The implications are there, that's clear. And it's also Planned Parenthood has funded historically certain lawsuits where there was a woman in a car accident that lost a six-month term baby, right? And the baby was killed as a result of injuries that suffered in the car accident. And Planned Parenthood and their allies ran to the front to prevent the DA from filing manslaughter charges against the drunk driver.

• 1:48:33Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 1:48:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, you know, God forbid you declare that that unborn child, that baby, that human, that precious life would not be of any value.

• 1:48:44Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:48:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And they blocked it. This is the lobby. When it comes down to this, this is the lobby.

• 1:48:51Speaker 04

  Good.

• 1:48:51Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I am so impressed by this. I'm still flabbergasted by the story. Can we go to her profile, Rob? Can we go to Governor Jennifer Gonzalez? Go to her profile, zoom in, okay? Let's see. Also, go to JGO, a Puerto Rican serving governor in 2017, she previously served for President in 2017. New Progressive Party, the Republican United States. So, leadership positions, including being chair of Puerto Rico. She is the second elected, third-serving female governor. Gonzalez was born in San Juan to the late Jorge Gonzalez and Nidia Colon. She graduated from University of Germany. Go a little bit lower. Obtained JD from LLM, from International University of Puerto Rico Law.

• 1:49:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And she has been admitted to the bar of jurisdiction. Respect.

• 1:49:38Speaker 04

  Good for her.

• 1:49:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for you. Whoever you are, good for you. I was hoping there was family relation to Wong Gonzalez.

• 1:49:44Speaker 04

  But the baseball player?

• 1:49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  My favorite baseball player of all time. But it's George Gonzalez, which is still plenty. He almost beat Hack Wilson's record many, many years ago. He had 110 RBIs before All-Star Game, I believe. If I'm not mistaken, I would go watch this guy all the time. Legendary player. Favorite baseball player of all time, Wong Gao. Anyways, let me get to the next story. Wong Gao was the best.

• 1:50:07Adam Sosnick?

  Shout out to Polico.

• 1:50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So, let's talk about this, okay? This whole thing with voter ID. Have you guys seen what Scott Jennings did with CNN on voter ID? How? How? How? Have you seen that clip?

• 1:50:18Speaker 02

  It was perfect. They were so cornered.

• 1:50:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Only one House Democrat voted in favor of voter ID, proof of citizenship, in US elections. So, people want real people voting. We want everybody to just be straight up about it. But one House representative passed a massive election integrity bill on Wednesday despite opposition from the vast majority of Democrats. Uh, this is the SAVE Act that they're talking about. The Democrat, the House Representative legislation that's aimed at keeping non-citizens from voting in the US federal elections. But all but one House Democrat, Representative Henry Suellar, Democrat Texas voted against the bill that passed 218 to 213. It is an updated version of the Safeguarding America Voter Eligibility,

• 1:51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  also led by, uh, Roy, Representative Republican Texas, which passed the House April of 2025, but was never taken up to Senate. So, I sup- what is this, Rob? This is the, uh, Democrat?

• 1:51:18Speaker 02

  This is a statement, yep, from the Democrat.

• 1:51:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you read that, Rob?

• 1:51:21Speaker 02

  "I support the SAVE America Act because I believe in a fundamental principle. American citizens should decide American elections. That principle strengthens our democracy and protects the value of every vote. This is the same secure but practical approach Texas already uses. Strong photo ID standards with real fallback options. And it's a big reason Texas has some of the strongest election security laws in the country. I want to explain clearly what this bill does and does not do. If you are already registered to vote, the status of your existing registration remains unchanged. For those registering for the first time, the, uh, the bill also reflects real life. People get married, people get divorced, and people change their names. Those moments should never create uncertainty

• 1:52:04Speaker 02

  about whether people, someone can vote. That's why this bill requires states to accommodate name changes and accept multiple commonly-held forms of identification. And if a citizen does not have those documents..." readily available, the bill provides a way to affirm citizenship through an affidavit. This approach protects election integrity while treating eligible voters with fairness and respect.

• 1:52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 1:52:28Speaker 02

  At the end of the day, election security and voter access go together.

• 1:52:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is this guy, Rob? Can we go to him? Let's recognize him. He's the color.

• 1:52:38Adam Sosnick?

  Like a light-skinned black dude with glasses. Is that him?

• 1:52:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Henry Swell.

• 1:52:42Adam Sosnick?

  Colar.

• 1:52:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Colar, and he's from where? He's from Texas? San Antonio?

• 1:52:47Adam Sosnick?

  He's Latino.

• 1:52:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Rio Grande? Texas 28. Okay, go to CNN's clip. Well, good for you. Go to CNN's clip with Scott Jennings. Guys, you're gonna hear one word 20 times in this clip. And that one word is how. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:53:03Speaker 31

  Rights is he taking away from black voters?

• 1:53:06Speaker 32

  Oh, if we look at the sayback. The sayback. That's exactly what we're talking about. That is actually going to continue to disenfranchise overwhelmingly a lot of people of color.

• 1:53:14Speaker 31

  Hell.

• 1:53:15Speaker 32

  There are so many civil rights organizations that have run the data. If we look at the way that it is going to disenfranchise black voters, it's the same reason why Chuck Schumer called it Jim Crow 2.0. This is the same president. If we want to continue.

• 1:53:26Speaker 31

  You haven't said hell yet.

• 1:53:27Speaker 32

  I am talking about it. It's the way that you're putting new poll taxes on this. When you're making people have, that's what we can call them now. It's kind of an idiom, right? If you want to say that people have to prove that they are citizens, that they have to prove with a voter ID. The reality is you're layering what is a constitutional right for the American people and making it harder for people to vote in this country. And it's going to disenfranchise black voters.

• 1:53:53Speaker 31

  Concern you that you're making all these claims? You've yet to lay out how it's hurting anyone. But 76% of black voters think we should show an ID to vote. 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people. Are you saying that black voters are too dumb to know what's good for them? What voting rights is he taking away from?

• 1:54:14Patrick Bet-David?

  They go nuts after that. Yeah, Rob, if you can find that, because it's great, that clip. But Tom, I'll come to you first. Your thoughts on this?

• 1:54:21Speaker 02

  Well, first of all, none of those have read, people have read the bill. And I'll summarize what just happened there.

• 1:54:28Tom Ellsworth?

  We have been working for five years to get illegal voters in here and I'll be damned if you're gonna pass legislation that screws me up.

• 1:54:34Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's basically, so let me just translate that, right? It's like, what will you have here? The SAVE Act, the narrative on the SAVE Act was disenfranchise this voter, disenfranchise this voter. We even had a local congressman on and we had a good spirited conversation, Pat. Did you think, I thought that was a pretty good podcast.

• 1:54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's this? Jared?

• 1:54:50Tom Ellsworth?

  We could go, yeah.

• 1:54:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he was great.

• 1:54:51Tom Ellsworth?

  But even he stuck to the narrative and we kinda pushed him on it a little bit. We said, "Hey, you're gonna, you're gonna force these people to get an alternative form of identification." No, it's not, and God bless the congressman from San Antonio for spelling it out. These people, the bill came from the right, and so if it's coming from the right, it must be bad. And they have been, if anything, enfranchising illegal voters. The only, no one's gonna be disenfranchised. We want to enfranchise all legal citizens to vote, and both, I'm in favor of it, I won't speak for Pat, but I know he's in favor of it, a national day off to vote.

• 1:55:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That Election Day is a, like, 4th of July, where we celebrate the freedom to vote and everybody who is a citizen votes on that day. That's what we want. No one's trying to disenfranchise. This bill is trying to ensure that our elections are only all citizens who should be aggressively enfranchised to vote, even to the point, I really think that the, if I was in Washington, I would be pushing for the last line of the bill, Pat, and establish the first Monday in November as a national holiday so that people can vote every even year.

• 1:56:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I am with it. I am with it, I am with it, I am with it. I'd love for that to happen.

• 1:56:17Speaker 04

  And just, Tom, I agree with you and I agree with you 1,000%. Just really quick, one thing that bothers me, we did a, what was the earlier poll on what, not poll, but what CNN, they're dropping, they're lowering, they're hemorrhaging numbers. I love Scott Jennings and I love this because he's actually checking them, but I don't even want him to be on CNN. I don't want him there. I want him to leave so that they can, Pat, well, hear me out, so that they can disappear once and for all. Scott could be on his own network, go to Fox, go to somewhere, I get the banter and I get what he's doing because he's checking.

• 1:56:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He loves it.

• 1:56:47Speaker 04

  And I know he does because he checks them, but this, I think he's helping CNN, which I want them to just go away, number one. Number two, to say that... I think it's extremely racist to say minorities, they don't know how to, they don't know how to get IDs. These people don't know how to get IDs. And here's my thing, if you don't know how to go get an identification, I don't even want you to vote. Who are you going to be voting for? You're going to be voting for the people that are telling you, hey, listen, you know what I mean? Just get in here. We don't give a damn. Get in here. And I think it's, it's, it's so obvious at this point, what the tactic of the left has been when we were, when we were sitting on this podcast, Pat, going crazy, going, where the, the border's open? What the hell is going on? It's so obvious. And this is it. Anybody against the Save America Act?

• 1:57:32Speaker 04

  You are a part of the problem.

• 1:57:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the rest of it, Rob?

• 1:57:34Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see it. By the way, it's first Tuesday in November. I got excited there.

• 1:57:40Speaker 33

  It sounds pretty condescending to me. You get three quarters of black voters who want voter IDs. Just to be clear, the Save Act is not just about IDs. The Save Act is about proof of citizenship. So what? So what? I actually...

• 1:57:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Where is it, Rob? You, you, did you go too, too much ahead?

• 1:57:57Speaker 33

  I, I...

• 1:57:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Because that's not it.

• 1:58:01Speaker 33

  The Save Act isn't just... Too dumb to know what's good for them? I mean, it sounds, it sounds pretty condescending to me. Just to be clear, the Save Act is not just about IDs.

• 1:58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it. All right. Well, let me, let me get to the next story, and then Adam, I'm going to come to you. CNN has lost nearly half of its audience and all its relevance in the past eight years, according to this story Outkick. No network on television benefited from Trump's first presidency than CNN. Although it remained distant third in cable network behind Fox and MSNBC, CNN openly negative coverage of the president kept the network relevant and viable. Okay? This is the story about what happened with CNN. And then, that's the case, the second, that's not the case a second time around. A new analysis from Fox Digital

• 1:58:50Patrick Bet-David?

  shows that CNN has lost more than 40% of its day and primetime audience from 2017 to 2018. Here's what it looks like, prime day, prime time.

• 1:59:01Patrick Bet-David?

  2015 was 711,000, then they went to 1 million after Trump got elected. Weird. Damn. They're down to 573. And then total day went from 489 to 775, down to 432. Adam, why do you think this happened?

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• 2:01:20Adam Sosnick?

  Well, because they don't want to face reality. I mean, nobody wants to tune in to watch CNN and watch Scott Jennings just dismantle panels for a living. And if you're living with TDS and you think Trump is the devil and you think he's a Nazi and you think that he's a fascist and you're gonna tune in and watch this guy run laps around these woke, useful idiots, you're not gonna watch it anymore. You're gonna go find a outlet, or a newspaper, or a TV station, or a YouTube channel that's just gonna basically pander to your belief system. So, the next thing is that I wanted to talk about the SAFE Act.

• 2:02:03Adam Sosnick?

  So, what we've seen constantly, constantly, is that Democrats just double down on the 20, on an 80/20 issue. People always ask me, "Dude, are you a Republican now? Are you still a Democrat?" I go, "I'm a registered independent, but if I belong to a party, I belong to the Common Sense Party." And what happened was the Democrats left Common Sense years ago, the day that Trump got elected. And people tell me, "Dude, thank God you no longer have TDS." And I'll say, "Thank God I don't have it either." Because it's, I see it every single day, how people are living with this crippling, debilitating disease called TDS. Remember the video where someone was like, Trump goes, "Listen, guys, wanna help you? Don't take aspirin if you're pregnant."

• 2:02:47Adam Sosnick?

  And then you have pregnant women being like, "Don't tell me what to do." It's so stupid out there. So, the ID thing is an issue. Guys, 80% of America, blacks, Latinos, whites even, 90%, say, "Yeah, let's have an ID to vote." These are 80/20 issues that are layups for the Republican Party, but Democrats wanna get on CNN, on national TV, in front of a diminishing audience, and argue why IDs are bad, or IDs are racist, when you have 80% of black people saying, "No, dude, like, we can get an ID. If I wanna go to the club, if I wanna go on an airplane, if I wanna travel, I have the ability to get an ID."

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, do you think the ability to get ID is racist? Like, do you think that's too much to ask for?

• 2:03:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, Pat, cuz I just, no, absolutely not. It's, it's, it's actually, you know how disrespectful it is for a black person to say that about other black, like, what do you think of your people? How, how, how freaking disrespectful and racist is that? Go get your damn ID. You wanna vote. Go get your freaking- Twenty twenty-six. Dude, I had an ID when, I had a fake ID when I was fifteen. If I could do it, you could do it.

• 2:04:00Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, they do it every day in Los Angeles.

• 2:04:02Speaker 04

  I had a fake ID, I was in a nightclub, people were like, damn, that guy's young and ripped.

• 2:04:05Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you for saying a nightclub. It's like debating-

• 2:04:07Speaker 04

  I was out.

• 2:04:07Adam Sosnick?

  It's like debating whether or not you should show your ID when you go into a nightclub.

• 2:04:12Speaker 04

  Bro, I was out clubbing at two thousand and one.

• 2:04:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the club's name?

• 2:04:16Speaker 04

  Two thousand and one.

• 2:04:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the name of the club?

• 2:04:17Speaker 04

  It was called Two Thousand and One.

• 2:04:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously.

• 2:04:19Speaker 04

  And the bouncers were jerks, they wouldn't, everybody from New Brandon, Connecticut would know, Pat, we'd have to wear baggy jeans under these tight jeans, the security guys were jerks. And then once we got in, we were, bro, fake ID from a bodega called Sidrakas. I got a fake ID, the guy was like, mira tu que hago, mira, yes, hi, dale.

• 2:04:36Adam Sosnick?

  You're ratting on your fake ID guy right now?

• 2:04:38Speaker 04

  No, that place isn't there anymore, but all the people from New Brandon, Connecticut would know.

• 2:04:42Adam Sosnick?

  Let me guess, they went on a business shortly after that.

• 2:04:44Speaker 04

  Pat, I would just, I'd take my shirt, and I would just sweat. Oh, it was amazing. I would do the worm.

• 2:04:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I haven't been ID'd since I was twelve years old. People never, never believed my age. But we would go to a club called Carnival in downtown LA. Yeah, Carnival, it was no longer around.

• 2:04:58Speaker 04

  How old, how old?

• 2:04:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifteen years old.

• 2:05:00Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, I can give you a shout out?

• 2:05:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 2:05:02Adam Sosnick?

  You remember the name of every club you've ever been to?

• 2:05:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:05:05Adam Sosnick?

  Like, literally every club. When I was in Kentucky, we used to go to this one club, and then, in El, in Avoca, fifth of-

• 2:05:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Tom, what clubs did you go to? Come on, Tom.

• 2:05:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, believe it or not, um-

• 2:05:16Adam Sosnick?

  They didn't let them in.

• 2:05:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I spent, you know, um, high school in Boca Raton, Florida, and we used to go down spring break to The Button, Summers on the Beach, and Penrod's. They were all right together, and right-

• 2:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Penrod's?

• 2:05:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Penrod, P E N R O D. And then right at the end was, called The Candy Store, which was owned by comedian Flip Wilson, who used to have The Flip Wilson Show when he was on TV.

• 2:05:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And, um, or partially owned by him. But that was, by the way, and that, that group of clubs down there, there was his act Geraldine, he would put on the wig and do this Geraldine act. But, and you know what was amazing? Fort Lauderdale wanted to get rid of those four bars specifically because they felt that it was just a problem for spring break. And, um, but I-

• 2:06:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, the comment section is saying you went to Studio 54, you don't want to-

• 2:06:06Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, and-

• 2:06:07Patrick Bet-David?

  The comment section was like, they saw you at Studio 54.

• 2:06:10Speaker 04

  Tom was out there.

• 2:06:11Patrick Bet-David?

  They're all over the place.

• 2:06:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And in LA, not too far from Dodger Stadium, there is a place called The Short Stop, where you would have all kinds of-

• 2:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh wow, now we're really getting into it.

• 2:06:21Speaker 04

  Tom's doing blow up the toilet bowl. Did you hear it? What does that have to do with- RFK was saying he was doing cocaine. What does that have to do with ID though?

• 2:06:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, but, but what he's trying to say, these clubs you went to, Tom went with a fake ID. Now, we used to go to Florida, Florida Rob, there was a club in Panama City, Club Lavilla and Spinnakers. Club Lavilla and Spinnakers.

• 2:06:40Tom Ellsworth?

  I know every club name.

• 2:06:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, Spinnakers was right next to Lavilla.

• 2:06:43Speaker 04

  Love Lavilla!

• 2:06:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Lavilla had seven clubs within one club when back in the days MTV used to do its stuff and hard body contests and all this other stuff, many, many years ago, yeah. Tom, CNN, let's go back to CNN, ratings being down.

• 2:06:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 2:06:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Can they do anything about it?

• 2:07:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, well, they can, and I think if you just go take a look at, um, what's happening at CBS, see, the news divisions have been lost, they've been lost leaders for media companies. And the media companies accepted the loss because the people at the top of those media companies were in cahoots with the liberal side of America, the progressive side of America, and they were using that as the megaphone to promote progressive liberalism. That's what they were doing. Now, things like CBS are owned by adults who are looking to, to make a profitable, you know, make, make CBS profitable, and they are bracing for another round of cuts, is what's happening. Over at CNN, CNN is trapped in this group

• 2:07:45Tom Ellsworth?

  of cable nets that David Zaslove, Zaz, is gonna spin, if Netflix wins, he's spinning that into a, what I believe will be a worthless tracking stock where they will just languish. If the Ellison's and Paramount wins, they want to take the cable nets and they want to make them profitable. And people are scared to death of that because that means CNN will go more toward the center. The same way CBS is leaning toward the center and it's causing this apoplectic seizure that's happening in the progressive movement. So can CNN save itself? Yes, but it's going to be more layoffs and new leadership, the same as you're seeing at CBS.

• 2:08:27Tom Ellsworth?

  CBS is, they are looking in the mirror over at CNN and they don't like the reflection they're seeing because if they look instead of look at themselves, look out the window at what's happening at CBS, they know what's coming. And that's why they're in such a, by the way, if you took Scott Jennings off, what would those ratings be?

• 2:08:47Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a good point.

• 2:08:47Tom Ellsworth?

  325?

• 2:08:49Patrick Bet-David?

  We send our, we send a couple of our guys, shout out to Umberto and Justin to the YouTube event in DC and apparently they didn't go to a single meeting. All they did is party and drink and have fun.

• 2:08:59Tom Ellsworth?

  He's about to bring toilet flushes.

• 2:09:01Patrick Bet-David?

  For the seven minutes that they went to the meeting, for the seven minutes that they went to the meeting, no, the report we got was phenomenal, but one of the things that a couple of the guys there talked about, he's texting me right now, is the fact that the conversations are that cable has seven years left. So there's seven more years left for cable because right now, Rob, you just ran a poll.

• 2:09:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You ran a poll, what was the poll you just ran on YouTube? Where do you get your story, news from?

• 2:09:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 2:09:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if it's still up or not.

• 2:09:33Tom Ellsworth?

  It is.

• 2:09:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, check this out, zoom in, 3,000 votes. Where do you get your news from? Look at that.

• 2:09:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 2:09:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Print media 1%, Fox, ABC, CNN, all that stuff, 8%. Podcasts, 91%. Where people are getting their news from. It's changed. It's a different market today.

• 2:09:51Speaker 04

  It's crazy though, Pat? It's crazy though that that, like our audience and them, that 8%, that 9% guys, that 9% still can cause an uproar, they could cause riots, they could shut down the, it's still working. Don't get me wrong, they, they still get their message out and... There's still a bunch of brainwashed zombies that can't step back, get all the information and then make a decision based on that and have an opinion on it. The fact that they're not, that 9% isn't giving fact, they're, they're political activists. They want you to think a certain way because they're getting money from donors. Thank God for the 90, you know, 92% that we have going on, it's gonna stop. But don't sleep on them because that, that little, little percentage still works.

• 2:10:32Speaker 04

  Adam, I still run into a lot of the times, people are just like, I hate Trump and they hate and, and they, they don't get it.

• 2:10:37Tom Ellsworth?

  It is amazing. You watch Harry Enton, Pat, every night he's got a poll that's like saying exactly this, but they still don't move their.

• 2:10:44Adam Sosnick?

  But there's, there's also an age gap though. Like people that are watching us are predominantly 50 and under.

• 2:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a good clip to show, Rob. The TV just went out.

• 2:10:52Adam Sosnick?

  People watching, um, mainstream media, 65 and older.

• 2:10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this clip here. Go ahead.

• 2:10:57Speaker 34

  Democratic base, right? But what about all, what about all Americans, right? How about all voters? Voters who say the Democrats are now too liberal. Look at this percentage. There's 42% in 96, 48% in 2013. Now 58% in 2025 of all Democrat, of all voters, say that the Democratic Party is too liberal. The Democrats are moving to the left. The far left is gaining power and there could be some electoral repercussions because what we see right now is voters, the clear majority.

• 2:11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at her head, look at her head.

• 2:11:26Tom Ellsworth?

  She's so bummed out.

• 2:11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I really wonder how Harry Enton is treated in the lunchroom at CNN. There's Harry.

• 2:11:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at him with his fax and diary when your contract's up.

• 2:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see today that they had to show the report about how the economy is doing with inflation and you see that? Consumer, Rob, I think you have that clip as well, Rob, if you want to pull it up. That was.

• 2:11:46Speaker 04

  I wonder if Harry Enton Pat is like that at home and like they want to go out to eat. He's like, if this restaurant has a, and this one has to be, I wonder if he's that guy in the house. He has one of these.

• 2:11:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine to a, I want you to go to the back. We're going to the bedroom right now because in about six minutes, you are not gonna be.

• 2:12:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd like to see him order at McDonald's. Stand on the counter. Number eight is number one and that's what I want. I want a number eight. And I want you to supersize it.

• 2:12:08Speaker 04

  He's hilarious, bro.

• 2:12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go back to that stat if you can. Watch this.

• 2:12:13Tom Ellsworth?

  This poor woman has to sit through this each week.

• 2:12:15Speaker 35

  Look, this is some encouraging news on the cost of living.

• 2:12:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you look happy.

• 2:12:20Speaker 35

  Inflation took a big step in the right

• 2:12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  She looks fired up.

• 2:12:22Speaker 35

  direction to start the year off. So consumer prices up by 2.4% year over year. That is an improvement from 2.7% in December that beat expectations, which were for 2.5%. In fact, this is a new eight-month low for annual inflation.

• 2:12:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Heard that?

• 2:12:40Speaker 35

  Month over month. Prices up by 0.2%. Also a step in the right direction, also beating expectation. Now economists look really closely at core inflation, which excludes food and energy. Core inflation came in at 2.5%. That's notable because that's the lowest annual inflation rate for core since March of 2021, before the inflation crisis. Now, while we can't exclude food and energy from our family budgets, that's important because economists say that's a better indicator for where inflation is going. And when you look at the trend for inflation over the last few years.

• 2:13:15Tom Ellsworth?

  She wants to be anywhere but there.

• 2:13:18Speaker 35

  It's been a little bit bumpy on this chart. It's been bumpy, but it has improved. There was this uptick in inflation starting last spring after the president slapped massive tariffs on imports. Inflation started to go heat back up, up to 3%. But thankfully, it's trending back down.

• 2:13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Somebody get her a drink.

• 2:13:34Speaker 35

  Some of the notable categories.

• 2:13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Looks like she wants an old fashioned.

• 2:13:37Speaker 35

  As far as what?

• 2:13:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:13:38Tom Ellsworth?

  So funny.

• 2:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't it great when you see this happening?

• 2:13:41Tom Ellsworth?

  It hurts, it looks like it hurts her.

• 2:13:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Like it's hurting the body. CNN should just cancel the stat show. It's like it's hurting.

• 2:13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, can you just show that stat one more time? The 42, 40? Voters. Yeah. Is that all voters? Democrats.

• 2:13:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Democrats.

• 2:13:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Are saying the Democrats have become more liberal. Democratic Party is basically saying, we've gone too woke.

• 2:14:02Tom Ellsworth?

  We've gone too woke.

• 2:14:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. About time. Yeah. So, I mean, the question becomes, what happens next with this? Right? That's the question. Is it gonna mean anything? I want to finish on a good story, Rob, on what we got going on is.

• 2:14:20Patrick Bet-David?

  James Vanderbeek just passed away. Okay, and for some of you guys, if you don't know who he is, for me, everybody goes to different movies. Where do you go with him, by the way? Where do you go with him? When you think about him? Varsity Blues. You go to Varsity Blues? It's not even close, dude. Varsity Blues? I don't want your life. Where do you go, Rob? Incredible. I go to one. Do you ever watch any of this stuff or no? Dawson's Creek. Okay, so listen, let me tell you guys about Dawson's Creek. Rob, tell me you're into men without telling you. I honestly don't want to wait for our lives to be over. I don't want to wait. That was the song. FYI, you know what's crazy? I'm gonna share this with you guys. Please don't share with anybody and let's just keep it in this community. I don't want anybody to know this.

• 2:15:00Patrick Bet-David?

  When I was in the Army, me and these six, seven guys from our unit, we knew a couple of things. In our barracks, there's two things we wouldn't miss. When Sosa and McGuire were playing, we'd be in that room watching the games. Or Tuesday nights, they changed it to Wednesday, but for many years it was Tuesday night, Dawson's Creek. And we would sit there and watch this guy. It was the sickest show, but we had one code. We cannot tell anybody we watched Dawson's Creek. Okay? It's one of the things. You can brag about watching Melrose plays, maybe even a little bit Beverly's 90210. You can't tell people you watched Dawson's Creek and you're in a military uniform, all this other stuff. But it was an awesome show.

• 2:15:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The best part about him is this one clip I shared where he experiences God as he's going through his... It's such a beautiful, beautiful message to finish the podcast on. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:15:54Speaker 36

  Today's my birthday and it has been the hardest year of my life. And I wanted to share something that I learned with y'all. When I was younger, I used to define myself as an actor, right? Which was never really all that fulfilling. And then I became a husband and that was much better. And then I became a father and that was the ultimate. I could define myself then as a loving, capable, strong, supportive husband, father, provider, steward of the land that we're so lucky to live on. And for a long time, that felt like a really good definition to the question, who am I? What am I?

• 2:16:37Speaker 36

  And then this year, I had to look my own mortality in the eye. I had to come nose to nose with death. And all of those definitions that I cared so deeply about were stripped from me. I was away for treatment. So I could no longer be a husband that was helpful to my wife. I could no longer be a father who could pick up his kids and put them to bed and be there for them. I could not be a provider because I wasn't working. I couldn't even be a steward of the land because at times I was too weak to prune all the trees during the window that you're supposed to prune them.

• 2:17:16Speaker 36

  And so I was faced with the question, if I am just a too skinny, weak guy alone in an apartment with cancer.

• 2:17:27Speaker 15

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• 2:17:56Speaker 16

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• 2:18:27Speaker 22

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• 2:18:58Speaker 36

  What am I?

• 2:19:02Speaker 36

  And I meditated and the answer came through, I am worthy of God's love.

• 2:19:11Speaker 36

  Simply because I exist.

• 2:19:15Speaker 36

  And if I'm worthy of God's love, shouldn't I also be worthy of my own?

• 2:19:21Speaker 36

  And the same is true for you. And as I move through this healing portal toward recovery, I wanted to share that with you because I think that revelation that came to me was doing no small part to all the prayers and the love that had been directed toward me. So I offer that to you, however it sits in your consciousness, however it resonates, run with it. And if the word God trips you up, I certainly don't know, I can't even know what God is or explain God. My efforts to connect to God are an ongoing process that is a constant unfolding mystery to me. But if it's a trigger, it feels too religious, you can take the word God out and your mantra can simply be, "I am worthy of love."

• 2:20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? And then, boom, he passed away two days ago when you see that message.

• 2:20:11Speaker 04

  Do you see, look in his eyes and tell me that faith?

• 2:20:18Speaker 04

  He has faith and zero fear. Said death is nose to nose with him and I didn't see any fear in him because he has God. If that doesn't tell you everything that we're about, I'm sorry.

• 2:20:35Adam Sosnick?

  I love you, Benny, and I appreciate that, man. I, um, can I, so, for me, this, all these actors that die, we remember, like for you was Dawson's Creek, for me it was Varsity Blues, and it doesn't come close. You know, we're seeing these actors die and we say, "Man, I remember Dustin Diamond died, that was Screech from Saved by the Bell. I used to wake up in the morning and I feel..." You remember that song? And then Paul Walker died. He was also in the movie with Varsity Blues. He was the quarterback that Foxy Moxie, James Vanderbeek, took his place. Man, I used to hang out with that guy in Miami. Wow, good looking guy, stud of a guy. Died driving a car, fast and... Man,

• 2:21:19Adam Sosnick?

  I knew him. Chadwick Boseman died. Right? Uh, Wakanda Forever, and you're like, dude, what is happening right now? But this is a part of life. But I'll tell you one story. In 1999, when Varsity Blues came out, I was playing football at the time. I was in, uh, playing football in North Carolina at the time. Our whole team went to go see that movie. And you talk about the army and the camaraderie. Go take your entire football team to go watch Varsity Blues. Like, remember when we took the entire company to go watch Air? We're like, alright, we're gonna go change the world. Movies, you know, I'm not a big movie guy. Movies, they used to be able to galvanize people and change the world. And they used to be original.

• 2:22:03Adam Sosnick?

  Now the movies aren't, aren't, aren't what they used to be. But here's a guy that has made such a huge impact from one movie. And look at the impact that he's made in this world with his family. Look at, is this family right here? Unbelievable. So here you have, obviously, a grieving mother and beautiful kids. Beautiful blonde babies. And, uh, salute to James Van Der Beek for everything you've done for America and for our culture and for society.

• 2:22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Four daughters, two sons, husband and wife, widow Kimberly Brook. He was raised a Christian, born a Christian. And, uh, may you rest in peace. Tom, your thoughts here?

• 2:22:42Adam Sosnick?

  You know, we, we all owe this, this world one death. And it's easy when you're young and strong to kind of create your own God and to create your own confidence and to live according to that and to doubt everything else. But it's an amazing thing of the human condition that when we're faced with our mortality, we are all capable of self-reflection if we'll let our bold, flawed human self get out of the way. And that's what you saw there. You saw a guy that was reflecting on who he was, reflecting on his value. And we're all worthy of God's love. And that's a God that sent his son that loved us so much that all of the, all of our flaws on earth, that all of our flaws as humans,

• 2:23:27Adam Sosnick?

  he wants to forgive that and to give you the gateway to eternal life and peace. And I'm really inspired by the reflection that I saw in the words that he gave. And, um, I, I think...

• 2:23:42Tom Ellsworth?

  You can slow down. You can slow down and meditate and think about who you are in this life and let your human self get out of the way for a minute and just think about what you just saw and say, what are the choices I'm making today? And there's a God that loves me so much in my sin and everything who I am today. You don't need to wait till you have cancer to kind of reflect on that and to live a life of true value and peace and encouragement to others. And I pray for his family. What a beautiful family. What a gorgeous reflection there. And you look at the reflection of who he was. Look at his family. There's the reflection.

• 2:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting.

• 2:24:26Tom Ellsworth?

  He was a wonderful, wonderful father. Look at them.

• 2:24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm going back to see how they met. They met on a trip to Israel in 2009. Neither are Jewish, by the way. They had such a spiritual experience, personal growth experience, that they ended up getting married there in 2010 in Tel Aviv, partly because that's where they met. They got married in Tel Aviv. Neither's Jewish. So I said, maybe she's probably Jewish. No. You can tell, I mean, for somebody who want to get married at a place like that and you're raised a Christian and... Very interesting. But all in all, super likable, man. You just hate to hear stories like this, a young man being where they're at. And it makes all of us, you know, we're 47 years old. You get to

• 2:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  a certain age in your life where you start realizing how important of a role faith plays. And I always say this to everybody. I told this to Adam for many, many years. I would tell him this and I would say to anyone around me, whatever you're doing this weekend, my suggestion, go to church. Go to church this Sunday. Go to service this Sunday, especially for some of you guys that haven't been a while. And maybe you're battling with your faith and things that didn't go right. You lost somebody, your relationship, a bad breakup, finance, career, bad experience, packing the days when you were a kid, something happened with a church, with a pastor, with a priest, whatever may be. I was told a long time ago when I would go to Bible study in 2002, Friday nights, I would be in, every other Friday

• 2:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  night, I would be in Pasadena from 6:00. PM to 2 o'clock in the morning. If you judge your relationship with God horizontally, you'll always be disappointed. But if you judge your relationship with God vertically, you'll be fine. So your bad experience spiritually is probably horizontal. On somebody else let you down, they did something to you that hurt you. You won't be disappointed vertically. It's been my experience. I can't believe the life I live every day. I'm so grateful for it. Anyways, I didn't even know we were gonna finish the story on this last minute. I decided to do this because his message he gave was so touching, was so amazing, and I hope it touched the right people as well. Gang, have a great weekend.

• 2:26:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Enjoy, thanks, enjoy Valentine's Day with your loved ones tomorrow. And if you don't have a loved one, there's plenty of dating sites out there to find somebody to go on a date with. But whatever it is. Go make a baby this weekend. Enjoy the weekend. If you're married, do go make a baby this weekend. If you're married, God bless everybody. Even if you're not married. No, no, no, no, no. That's his. Do it the right way. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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