Fraud Friday: Australia’s Cop Con Artist w/ AJ Gibson & Emile Ennis Jr.

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by AJ Gibson and Emile Ennis Jr. (Confess Your Mess Pod) to discuss the Australian identity thief who had a clear obsession with conning cops. Plus, a California man pleads guilty to a $1.1 million art fraud scheme. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 09/27/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Order “Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes" here: Hachette Book Group Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci AJ Gibson: @_ajgibson Emile Ennis Jr.: @emileennisjr Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/escondido-man-pleads-guilty-to-role-in-million-dollar-art-forgery-fraud/2689224/ https://www.theage.com.au/technology/a-woman-dicing-with-the-law-20060708-ge2o8z.html https://www.nowtolove.com.au/news/real-life/jody-harris-fraud-53846 https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/con-artists-jody-harris-is-australias-queen-of-con-artists/news-story/5e8382e5598e417f96d92721c28f2671 https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/extract-the-queen-of-con-part-1/news-story/0c44c3719d9f344b6a366f8f1a0a37da

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• 1:31Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:13Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin' congregation? It's your girl Scam Goddess, AKA Lacey Mosley, back with another installment of Scam Goddess. And guys, I'm what? Yes, excited and very much, I know, I'd be like, very, very, very, very like, I'm, the words lost meaning. I understand. Uh, but as you know, this is a podcast dedicated to fraud scams, all those who practice it. And today I have some friends on, like, these are the homies. They're hosts, they're super talented. Uh, one of them I met when I first moved to LA, like, six years ago, uh, hustling, waiting tables, scamming as much as we could in the restaurant industry. Uh, guys, we have Emile and it's Junior.

• 2:55Laci Mosley?

  I want to say your full name, Emile, but, um, both of, these two guys, not only, uh, are they my friends, but they are enfiances. I don't know if I said that correct. And they do their, enfion. They are engays. Uh, they have their own podcast called Confess Your Mess, which is visual and also you can listen to it wherever you get your podcasts, which is very nice that you can see them because they are both very fine. Guys, I have Emile, uh, we have AJ, who you might know from his book, Flipping the Script, okay? He went on a whole book tour, it's on Amazon. He does Wendy Williams and he's the co-host of Confess Your Mess. They both be doing Wendy Williams. This is a long credit intro, wow. Okay, let's get into it.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Listen, hype us up, sis, hype us up. Keep going, keep going.

• 3:44Laci Mosley?

  Listen, AJ was at the Emmys hosting, you know, okay? These are legit, these are legit hosts. I'm so excited to have them. But guys, we have AJ and Emile, what's up, y'all?

• 3:55Speaker 04

  We're so excited to be here. It's just so wild. It's so wild to see the things you're doing right now. And to know like, I remember back in the day, that restaurant you worked at, I remember when you guys were doing that like run through, you were like practicing being servers. And we got to come in and you were like waited on us that night and you were so sweet and so wonderful and you're in your little denim little skirt outfit.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  denim skirt.

• 4:18Laci Mosley?

  It was a denim out, it was a denim dress, y'all. Y'all are forgetting how wild that shit was. And every time I washed that bitch, it got smaller and smaller until eventually, uh, one of our owners, actually, when I was waiting on their table, because I would always have to wait on them, which I was like, why? This is not an honor. I don't want to do this.

• 4:37Speaker 03

  You were one of the greats. Go ahead.

• 4:40Laci Mosley?

  I was a liar, bro. If, if, if shit, if I forgot to bring something up, I would be like, I would walk up to the table and be like, oh my God, I know y'all missing something. What is it? And then they'd be like, oh, it's the little corn. I was like, see, that's what I thought. Let me go to the kitchen because I got cussed them out.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  Blaming on the kitchen, acting like it's them that messed up.

• 4:59Laci Mosley?

  And then I go into the kitchen, I'd be like, uh,

• 5:07Speaker 03

  Wait, but the best part is you would go back to the table and be like, listen, I went in there, I talked to them, everything's covered. I'll talk to my manager, see what I can do about getting this off your check. I'm so sorry, they messed up.

• 5:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. And then you go to the kitchen, you're like, oh my God, this table, they're so impossible. I'm so sorry. They forgot to order something. They just now told me about it.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  Gave it to everybody.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  Uh huh. Listen, I'm a corporate trader for the Cheesecake Factory, honey. I used to work at the Cheesecake Factory. I get the game. I get it.

• 5:31Laci Mosley?

  Wow, that's a long ass, that menu's longer than the Bible. When you open the Cheesecake Factory menu, it'd be like, the book of salad.

• 5:40Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 5:40Speaker 04

  So true.

• 5:41Laci Mosley?

  When am I gonna get to the meats?

• 5:44Speaker 03

  Oh, Lord.

• 5:45Speaker 04

  You better believe, we got tested on every single ingredient in that menu for food allergies, peanut allergies, all of it. It's a wild menu.

• 5:53Laci Mosley?

  Wow, I don't, I don't think they doing all that post pandemic. I feel like now they just like, do you want to, can you please work in a like, yeah.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  You get what you get.

• 6:01Speaker 04

  Right.

• 6:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. So, but yeah, that's where we started out and those outfits were so tight that one of the owners at one point was like, leaned over to me in my ear and was like, okay, so we gonna get you a new uniform. Because I was busting out that bitch.

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Cause they were custom uniforms, our shirts and the dresses were custom, like they got them made somewhere. You couldn't just go get it somewhere.

• 6:23Speaker 04

  I remember his shirt was so stank, cause it was like this denim that was like an inch thick. It was the thickest shirt on earth. I would try to iron it for him and it was like a cardboard, it was like wood. And it was like a piece of plywood that he had some snaps on the front and a collar. And I would try to iron that shit for him, cause I was like trying to be like a good, like a supportive man. And I, and it would like, as you iron it, I would be smelling all the sushi coming out.

• 6:45Speaker 03

  Now, why you gotta come over here?

• 6:48Speaker 04

  Listen, anybody who's worked in a restaurant knows.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  He like, he had that brother funk that just would not go away.

• 6:54Speaker 04

  If you've worked at a restaurant, you know the scam. You spray a little Febreeze on it, you iron it, you don't wash it every time. Cause you be going, after you leave the restaurant, you go have some drinks with your coworkers. You come home and you gotta work a shift the next day and that shirt is not clean. So I'd be trying to spray and iron it every time, get it ready for him and it was just nasty, it was nasty.

• 7:10Laci Mosley?

  I just started stealing them after a while. I knew where they were, the bag.

• 7:13Speaker 03

  Exactly, once you figured it out.

• 7:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, they weren't playing with me, but guys, what, other than the scams that obviously we all ran together at this, uh, now defunct restaurant, um, R I P.

• 7:27Speaker 04

  Survived the pandemic, didn't it?

• 7:31Laci Mosley?

  But guys, what are your relationships? Have you guys ever been scammed? And like, this is an individual question, so like, Emile, AJ, whoever wants to go first, but have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? Like, it could be anything.

• 7:43Speaker 04

  I'm gonna start, cause I get, like, I'm real nervous. Here's the thing about me, like, low key, like, I think I'm a bad boy, but like, the littlest thing in the world makes me nervous. Like, if, for instance, a light is turning red and there's, it's a crosswalk and there's not a car in sight. I'd be standing on the curb forever just waiting. I'm like, I don't wanna get in trouble. I'm gonna get in trouble. I don't wanna break a rule, so I'm not gonna do it, right? So like, I'm always like very aware of scams. I try to read people's energy real quick and I'm like, mm, you ain't gonna pull a fast one on me. Like, I'm pretty good at reading, like, character, however.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  I was about to say, I wanna hear.

• 8:13Speaker 04

  However, I dated some trash men before Emile and one of the last ones I dated, I got scammed into this date. We saw each other, we met each other, we went out and our first date started on a Thursday night and that date lasted. Till about Monday morning and I was like, damn, we were getting it in all weekend long. I thought it was like, this is the man of my dreams. This is the one.

• 8:33Laci Mosley?

  Now, we were getting it in all weekend long. This is the man of my dreams. How is that A plus B equals C? Like, you said, we was getting it in all weekend long.

• 8:44Speaker 04

  I thought this man had some month, he was handsome, attractive. He was, I thought he was a professional. He drove a BMW. I have lots of thoughts, by the way. He had real nice furniture and I was like, oh yeah, this is the one. He's an adult and I need, I'm, I want to be an adult.

• 8:55Laci Mosley?

  AJ, you was in his apartment knocking on wood. He was like, oh, that had pork board. That ain't Ikea. That's not the, that's not the ooskin tockskin. This is some real. No, who'd you be going to see, Alan?

• 9:07Speaker 04

  Like, yeah, low key, like, his couch wasn't.

• 9:08Laci Mosley?

  You ain't make this with an Allen wrench? Wow.

• 9:11Speaker 04

  His couch wasn't eco leather. It was actual leather. It was real. You know, people be making up eco leather. That's a scam, by the way. Eco leather makes you feel better about buying some cheap crap, is what it is.

• 9:20Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's plastic, but no, this is saving the turtles. That's why it's plastic.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  He took me to a farmer's market that Sunday. I was like, oh, he's fancy. He got money. He's buying vegetables, fruits and vegetables at a farmer's market, not Ralph's. So I was like, I was all in. I called my mom after a weekend of great sex and farmer's market and I say on Monday, mom, I found the man of my dreams. I'm going to marry this man. Well, we dated for about three months. It blew up real bad. It was terrible. However, as I was dating him, I was realizing I was getting scammed because one night, Loki, he lived this real nice, uh, like a, a complex over on Sunset Boulevard and these lofts were nice, right? He had money, I thought, and somebody's knocking on.

• 9:58Laci Mosley?

  He had money, I thought.

• 10:00Speaker 04

  No, somebody like maintenance knock on the door one time and we had to act like nobody was there and we had to stay quiet and not let him in. And I was like, that's, that's kind of weird. Why doesn't he want maintenance in his home?

• 10:08Laci Mosley?

  Wait, so pause, AJ, pause. What were y'all like, was it like y'all was chilling or making eggs or something and then it was like a?

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Just watch the movie. Watch the movie. Hurry up.

• 10:18Laci Mosley?

  Turn the movie out. Pit pause on Netflix.

• 10:20Speaker 04

  Stay real quiet. Turn the lights out. Just chill, right? So we didn't answer and I was like, that's kind of odd. Like, this is a little bit weird, but I kind of wrote it off because he had, like, he had real leather. So I was like, okay, he's, he's, he's, he's legit human.

• 10:31Laci Mosley?

  He had real leather and real D. Okay. So you was like, we gotta hide every now and then?

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Here we go. This where AJ lets you know he ain't concerned about the D. All he care about is the ass. Go ahead AJ.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  Okay, I was into a couple of things back then. I'm into all the things. I don't discriminate. Okay? So, so yeah, I'm into the ass, but I'm into some D sometimes too. So, um, so then one night randomly, he and his roommate, which should have been a red flag because he still had a roommate. I'm like, he's not as grown as he thinks he is because he's got a roommate paying for half the rent. Well, trying not to be judgmental. Uh, we go and he's like, hey, we're going to go down to the storage room at my like condominium, like complex. And we go in there and Loki's like, hey, grab the end of that couch. I'm like, what? He's like, grab that. He be stealing furniture. So this is like a high end place. And they would rotate their furniture every so often, their artwork, their furniture, their tables, their end tables, like fancy, fancy stuff, right?

• 11:23Laci Mosley?

  How did he know when the drop was happening?

• 11:25Speaker 04

  He would put, they would put it in, he would keep an eye on it. They would put that shit in storage and he would steal it. And his whole ass apartment was furnished from leftover stuff that this fancy ass complex stopped using. That's why he didn't want the maintenance to come in because his couch, his artwork, his kitchen table, it was all like mid-century modern and sexy. And none of it belonged to him. He stole that shit.

• 11:47Speaker 03

  You sound like you still angry about it.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  He scammed me all summer long and that started to eat away at me. And by the time I really realized, I was like this man, this man, listen, this man is trash. I put his keys under his doormat one day and never went back.

• 12:00Laci Mosley?

  You already had keys after three months?

• 12:03Speaker 04

  I said, I love you. I'm gonna marry this man. After, no, it was like I had a U-Haul ready to go. I'm telling you that first date was four nights long and I said we were getting it in. We were, I was ready. I was ready to marry this man. And turns out.

• 12:17Laci Mosley?

  Your fiance is like next to you.

• 12:19Speaker 04

  No, that was before this one. So that set me up for this one, I think.

• 12:22Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so the scam was, so he wasn't squatting in the apartment. That's what I thought was happening when you said turn the lights off. When he was like, turn the lights off.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  It's interesting that you bring that up because turns out he was a few months behind on rent as well.

• 12:34Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 12:35Speaker 03

  Oh, Lord.

• 12:35Speaker 04

  And he's, he works.

• 12:36Laci Mosley?

  He wasn't quite squatting, but he was like sitting.

• 12:39Speaker 04

  He was avoiding because he stole his furniture and didn't pay his rent. And also it must've been a rough season in his life, in his life. Because he's and I still don't like Loki still think this is the greatest scam job of all time. He was a consultant. Like, what the hell are you consulting on? So consultants can get like tens of thousands of dollars like sit with you for a couple hours and give you some ideas for your business. And they're making money and doesn't matter if it works out or not. They've got their check, they're gone. He was a consultant. He was the eternal scam.

• 13:07Laci Mosley?

  Everybody in LA, look, bro, everybody on a dating app in LA, all the men. When I tell you, when I see consultant, I'm like, okay, you ain't got no job. Like, like, that's, what are you consulting?

• 13:21Laci Mosley?

  Especially because they'd be like consultant at consulting. What that mean? Like, I feel like anybody could do that. I feel like when I call the phone, my girlfriend and she's like, girl, I don't know if I should leave him. And then I give her advice. I'm like, is that consulting? I just consulted her.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  For eight thousand dollars.

• 13:38Laci Mosley?

  Start invoicing your friends. If your friend is talking about the same raggedy ass man, woman, you know, person for a long time, you gotta just go ahead and hit him with an invoice on Vimo afterwards. It's like you done broke up with Day Day too many times for me to just solicit for free.

• 14:00Laci Mosley?

  I got Friday on the brain. But, okay, so this man was still, I like his scam. I'm into it. I actually like this guy. Um, is he available?

• 14:08Speaker 04

  He trash. No, he's married now. He scammed some man into marrying him to get, I think, I think to get US citizenship. This man was before, now he's married to him. I don't know what's going on. Listen, I see him every now and then.

• 14:19Laci Mosley?

  You moving? He was like, great.

• 14:21Speaker 04

  Can I tell you what?

• 14:31Speaker 04

  I can't. Not the full song. Wait a minute. No, Loki, our birthdays are one day apart. He a little bit older, but our birthdays are one day apart in, in July. And every year up until about a year or two ago, and we dated a decade ago. Until about a year or two ago, he would text me every year on my birthday, and I do not have this man's phone number. I have not reached out to him. I have not, after that day I left, I think I saw him. One more time after my grandma died and I was real sad and he came over, we had some sex on my couch and then I sent him home again. But besides that, I have not gone back. Right.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  I listened, listen, man.

• 15:07Speaker 04

  Great sex. I told my mom about the great sex that I had with this man who scammed me. I'm gonna tell you this. We had sex for four nights, all day long. Listen, boo, I'm gonna tell you this.

• 15:15Laci Mosley?

  Hello, mother. I had great sex with a man. He has quality furniture. It's definitely from CB2.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Lacey, I want to point out AJ sounds nothing like that. We keep doing this white boy every time.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  What's going on? I feel, I feel, I feel like I'm triggered. Oh, no, but like low key though, this man was a scammer. And he will call me every year and he'll be like, and the first couple of years, I legit just didn't know who it was. Cause you get a bunch of birthday messages, happy birthday and I, and my response is like, thank you so much. I'm sorry, who is this? And every year he would get so mad that I wouldn't know his number. His ego was so, so bruised. And then after a few years, I knew exactly who it was. Well, didn't you see the previous text? I would delete it. I, I delete, I delete bad things out of my phone. Cause I don't want the energy there. Oh, he don't want that energy. It's toxic. So then, so then after a few years, I would low key, I would low key be like, I don't know who this is. I'm so sorry. Who is this? And he would get, and I would just do it just to piss him off. Cause I know it made him so mad. And then he stopped.

• 16:10Laci Mosley?

  Wow. AJ, I see that this scam is still, it's still gotta.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  Right. He had every detail to the scam. Cause my scam is not that detailed.

• 16:19Laci Mosley?

  Email, email, what's yours?

• 16:21Speaker 03

  Well, first of all, before I get into my scam really fast, I just want to point out that at the beginning of AJ's tirade, just now, his scam, great sex boyfriend. He said, I'm a, I have a great discernment of character. I can tell. So I don't get scammed, right?

• 16:34Speaker 04

  Apparently.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Ignore the boyfriend situation. I thought you were going to talk about the random email address that sent you something about your Facebook page. Talking about he can make thousands of dollars a week on ads.

• 16:45Speaker 04

  I fell for that one once.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  AJ, how are you going to make more money with these Facebook ads and the followers you have on your Facebook page?

• 16:50Speaker 04

  You get, how many times you get that email from like mariela at mariela.com or something? And she'd be like, listen, we want to pay you $600 a week for paid ads on your Facebook. And I was like, damn, I clicked the link one time, like three, four years ago.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  You were starting to give this man or woman information. I was like AJ, abort. Okay.

• 17:04Speaker 04

  Cause low key they used a real website email address and I fell for it.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  When I looked at it, I could tell it was a scam. Anyway, so that's AJ getting scammed. Here's the thing. Mine really isn't that long. Back when I used to work for this product. This company and I was an on camera host. They took crafty away after a while. I was there for a long time and then all of a sudden the budget, which by the way, that whole job was a scam within itself because we found out one day, and this is going to explain what I'm going to say in a second, but one day we found out that uh, the money that we thought was coming into the company was going to the one of the CEOs or owners, whatever. And then uh, we found out in addition to that, that the woman who was handling accounting was laundering funds away from the company

• 17:52Speaker 03

  off on the side. And because of this woman, the company went under and I got laid off from my job, found out two days after uh, the election. But here's the thing. Crafty used to be amazing. When I first started the job, I'm talking about they had every name brand. They had the Welch's gummies, the cheeses, the Rice Krispie treats. They

• 18:10Laci Mosley?

  Say y'all want some crab legs?

• 18:12Speaker 03

  Right. They had everything. They had the apple crumble. Yeah. If you don't work in Hollywood, crafty is like just the food they feed you, right? And there's trash crafty that you can tell they went to the Dollar Tree and there's like the real crafty.

• 18:22Laci Mosley?

  And to explain even further, crafty is like, so on set, you'll get meals. Um, that'll be prepared for you. But crafty is something, if you want to graze and snack in between um, meals so that you can stay, you know, awake, you know, go get a Red Bull, go get a sandwich, go get da da da. So meals saying that the crafty was popping, you know, they was having like

• 18:42Speaker 03

  It was elite.

• 18:43Laci Mosley?

  hors d'oeuvres. They was having hors d'oeuvres.

• 18:45Speaker 03

  No, he used to come home with a backpack full of snacks. Listen, listen, listen. It was stacked with snacks and meals were great. Like everything was great.

• 18:55Laci Mosley?

  So slowly the snacks started to dwindle away.

• 18:57Speaker 03

  It started to deteriorate to the point where they then locked up the snacks behind the cabinet and they had the front desk lady only put out a few snacks a day because they wanted to preserve what they had. So they have to go to Costco every five weeks. So here's the thing.

• 19:10Laci Mosley?

  You went from crab legs to like a, a opened uh, sleeve of Saltines and they were like

• 19:15Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 19:16Laci Mosley?

  Someone was handing them out. Like you can have one like a church service, like

• 19:20Speaker 03

  That was the fishiness of it. That was the fishiness of it. And then because of that, we would then have to start going to restaurants. Restaurants like around the way. So we would walk on our lunch break to these restaurants. And the, the place where I worked was in Beverly Hills. I was making after taxes, less than a hundred dollars per shift for this hosting job. It was trash. And you know the company I'm talking about. It was trash. Yeah, that company's paying, paying rent in Beverly Hills. They got money. Right. Five days a week. Well, no, I was freelance at that time. Cause I was working at our restaurant at the same time. And then simultaneously working there. And you know at the restaurant we worked at, we got scammed because we weren't making nothing. We got this restaurant job across the street from Soho House and Boa Steakhouse. I'm like, oh, we about to be making money.

• 19:59Laci Mosley?

  We turned in like two thousand, four thousand dollars worth of tips, like individually. And then they would be like, okay, now we gotta split it for everybody, including. So we go pay the bar bags, we go pay the dishwasher, we go pay the cooks, we go pay. And I was like, why you not paying them a salary? Why? We gotta give all of our money away. Yeah. And then that's when they started calling us mercenaries. Cause we would start looking. I would, I would go through everybody's, cause I knew all the logins. I would go through everybody's login and see how much money they made. And the people who made the least, I would go to the manager. I'd be like, okay, so you can cut Johnny, you can cut Fred. You can cut Anya. You can cut, I was like, get them out of here.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Cause I'm trying to make some money. They're not doing anything anyway. Let me can't, let me handle it. No. So basically I wasn't, I wasn't making money, but I had to go to these expensive restaurants and I was broke. And so I'm walking down the street. We went to get, me and my, uh, best friend Drew, we were walking down the street, went to get like an acai bowl or something. We're walking back. And Drew is this beautiful chocolate queen. She's a model. She's a, a host to an actress. So whatever. So we walked together and everybody's always like, I'm, I'm sorry, we were in Beverly Hills and you know, there are some white people who like to just look at you a certain way. And they're like, oh my God. And so they would come up to us.

• 21:08Laci Mosley?

  What are you doing here?

• 21:09Speaker 03

  There's that voice again. That's how they talk though. They were like. It's real, it's real.

• 21:13Laci Mosley?

  Hi. Are you a rapper?

• 21:15Speaker 03

  They, they would, well, they would talk about. Basketball player? They would talk about her hair. Then they would be like, are you guys a couple? Cause you guys are, I'm like, no, I am gay. And then I would like flame out like we did, we turned to a joke. But then a few months before. Like I'm in a ball. Okay, ballroom. Okay. I can't. So I'm over here sashaying down the way and all of a sudden.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  All of a sudden, I started to get approached by these like psychics every couple of weeks. And these like street psychics. I remember when you tell me about this stuff. So we're walking and this guy with a turban on and like full garb, like it was hot as hell.

• 21:56Laci Mosley?

  Okay, he was giving costume. I'm appreciating it.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  Exactly. He was believable. He came up to me.

• 22:01Laci Mosley?

  He looked like he got a future. He looked like he got a future.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Exactly. So he comes up to me and I'm thinking, okay, cool. And whatever he said when he initially came up to me, I was like, oh my God. Cause at that point I was so global and I believed everything. You came home and told me, I remember. I know. And he, he hooked me in. And so he's like telling me my fortune. He's like, there's gonna be a great opportunity for you in April. And at the time I had a callback recently and I was like, oh my God, that job starts in April. Oh, oh, this is it. Okay. Listen, you tell anybody in Hollywood, Los Angeles, there's a big opportunity around the corner for them. Their ego is gonna take it and run with it.

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  He was looking up pilot season. He was like, what is, oh no.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  He's like, so I see a lot of shows happen around. Listen, he was hella authentic. And then.

• 22:40Laci Mosley?

  March, January.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  He pulled out like a, he pulled out a photo from his family in Bangladesh. And he was like telling me this backstory about how he was blessed and all these different things. Then he told me to write down a number, write down a date and write down something else. And I swear I ripped it up or something, but then Drew was saying he must've done some mind magic stuff. Because somehow that paper was like in his other hand and he still had my ripped paper. And he had the ripped paper in one hand and this in another hand, like a new paper. He starts writing down numbers and dates and he got my stuff right. And I was like, Drew, how would he have known that? Cause I ripped up the paper. And she was like, I don't know. So then this man tells me, I was like, oh, that's cool. But we have to get back to work. He's like, okay, well, in order for your fortune to come true and for you to be blessed in April, I need some monetary compensation.

• 23:26Laci Mosley?

  I need ten installments of nine ninety-nine. And then your dreams will come true. I love that this guy does close up magic. He's also a magician. And then he came in, he was like, now you're not gonna get the dream if you don't cough up.

• 23:40Speaker 03

  But here's the thing, and I. I didn't know what to do. Wait, wait, Lacey, don't judge me now. Cause I felt some judgment.

• 23:47Laci Mosley?

  No, there's no judging.

• 23:49Speaker 03

  I let you tell your scam, let me tell mine.

• 23:51Laci Mosley?

  I have talked, I've told people many times on this podcast, I've been scammed, I do scams, like, and I don't do real, like, that guy from that, uh, Groove Theory who, who was attacking me on, uh, Twitter, guys, I don't actually do real scams on people. So if anybody's named Lacey Mosley reaches out to you for some coin, it ain't me. But point me in that direction, cause I want my cut. I don't do real scams, I do light petty scams. But go ahead, Mill, so, you paid the man, it's okay, I, I have, I have been through many scams.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  I was broke, Lacey, but this didn't make no sense. No, here's, here's the thing, I didn't have any cash, I didn't have no cash. I said to the, I said to the man, I don't have cash, I only carry around cards. The man then proceeds to, he points across the street to my building where I work, where there's a Bank of America. He's like, there's an ATM right over there, I'll wait. Lacey, when I tell you, and this is no lie.

• 24:38Laci Mosley?

  It ain't no problem, it ain't no problem.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  This is no lie. When I tell you Drew and I were waiting at the crosswalk with this mind magician over here, so he can get his funds. I go to the ATM and I was like, well, sir, how much? Like, I can take out a 20, he's like, uh. And I said, what do you want me to do? I am broke, I gave this man $80. I gave him $80, that was my whole day pay. That was all the money I made that day. That's a random number, how do you get to 80?

• 25:06Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, 80 ain't even 100, why didn't you just give him 20, tell him that's all you had? He would've took it.

• 25:10Speaker 03

  20, 50, or 100 makes sense. Like, my, my, my dream wasn't gonna come true, and by the way, nothing happened.

• 25:16Laci Mosley?

  Why y'all haggling over your dream? That ain't, that ain't how dreams work. You talking about, alright, now for 25, you can have a quarter of your dream.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  He got me, y'all. I was, I was young, dumb, and broke. Listen, he got me.

• 25:28Laci Mosley?

  Young, dumb, young, dumb, and broke. Scam!

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• 28:06Laci Mosley?

  Guys, what's hot and fraud? This is where we warn our listeners about popping scams and the zeitgeist. And more often than not, we get your letters. Guys, as always, [email protected]. Snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure your scam is retired because we don't want to what? Fuck up your bag. Exactly. And guys, this is a very kind of similar segment to Confess Your Mess. If you like to hear personal stories, anecdotes anonymously told that are messy as hell, you should definitely listen to Emile and AJ's podcast. But this is our listener letter for today. I need a fake name, Emile, AJ.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  Uh, French, French, Frances, Francesco.

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  Wow. You were struggling with that. The struggle to get there. Wow. So Francesco, so Francesco sends in a funeral procession scam.

• 28:55Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  Hello, Miss Lacy. Nah, Miss Lacy, okay, Francesco.

• 29:00Speaker 04

  That is not how Francesco talks.

• 29:03Laci Mosley?

  I have a scam for you. I don't know how I feel about it, though. LOL. Okay. So sadly, I lost my cousin just recently. Oh, I'm so sorry, Francesco. So I went to her funeral to say goodbye. After we left the funeral home, we did a procession to the burial site. Very common. You know, the police will come. The only time the police are not harassing black people when they're following them. You know, they'll come on the motorcycles and they'll drive in front of you and behind you so that there's no traffic, so that everybody can get to the repass or the funeral home or wherever you're going, like, safely. Now, in the day of GPS, you know, funeral processions seem not really necessary.

• 29:44Speaker 04

  You know, I saw one, I saw one in LA last week coming back from a gig, and I hadn't seen one out here in the 15 years I've lived here. Back home, they put those little flags on your hood of your car, and so everybody has them. I don't see them out here. I saw one.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  So that way, nobody can, like, sneak in just trying to avoid traffic?

• 30:00Laci Mosley?

  We'll get there. But I will say, like, I feel like a funeral procession. In L A is a flex because we have so much traffic. If you can get all these cars in a line, that's a flex. It's like, I need that when I die. I need everybody to stop all the traffic. I wanted some James Corden dancers on the street, just like interrupting everything.

• 30:18Speaker 04

  All the way to Forest Lawn, all the way to Forest Lawn.

• 30:22Speaker 03

  Right by where they do that James Corden stuff. And so we'll be driving sometimes like, oh, there's a full ass show happening. Can we please go?

• 30:27Speaker 04

  Like, oh, look, there's Belle from Beauty and the Beast. That's gonna stop up traffic for a while.

• 30:32Laci Mosley?

  I, I feel like you could not do that in New York City. I feel like people would get out of their taxis and fight you. Like in L A even.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  Or somebody's getting hit, yeah.

• 30:40Laci Mosley?

  Right, at least in L A, there's enough actors that they're like, ooh, maybe if I inch close enough to the, uh, crosswalk, I'mma be on James Corden tonight. Let me stick my head out the window. I'm in the sugar, hi, this is my headshot. I'm trying to like get in the, in the frame. I just want audition.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  I am living for these remixes.

• 31:04Laci Mosley?

  So, uh, it says during the procession, this van pulled up behind me. No sticker in the window and I put, and put on its flashers and headlights on and followed us through all the lights and stopped signs like it was one of us. I thought maybe it was someone who got separated from our group somehow, even though the funeral home was pretty vigilant about getting everyone a sticker? I don't know, I wasn't thinking about it. Well, clearly you were Francesco, like, you was like, hold on, this, who was in that van? Is it, hey, Alice, who was in the van?

• 31:33Laci Mosley?

  So it says, but then maybe a few blocks from the graveyard, it pulled into a parallel parking spot smooth as ice. I thought to myself, they live near a graveyard and seem to be so confident about it, lol. Like most of us in the procession, we were so much more hesitant when it came to light. So I wondered if they do this all the time. Oh, and then there's some nice stuff here at the bottom. Thank you so much, Francesco. So I will say, maybe this person works near the funeral home, lives near the funeral home, and they catch a procession whenever they can because, you know, traffic is crazy.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  I mean, that would be a, that would be the smart move to make, honestly.

• 32:05Speaker 04

  That's sort of iconic, first and foremost. Sorry about your loss, Francesco. That is the sender of love. But also, yeah, if you be living near there, you're like, okay, traffic in L.A., we all know it. I, I can't, I, how many times have you thought to yourself, I gotta move out of the city. I can't do it one more time. And then you sit in that traffic for a couple hours and you find, you get through it. But if I live near a funeral home or something, I'd probably be, I'd probably be doing it.

• 32:25Speaker 03

  Side note, I'm over here, I forgot I took an edible. And so while y'all were talking, I was like, wait a minute, Francesco, that's such a unique name. And then I forgot we made it up.

• 32:35Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. Y'all are in for an episode today.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Frank, Frankie Francis or Francesco, I can't remember. We landed on Francesco.

• 32:43Laci Mosley?

  Damn, what are these animals?

• 32:45Speaker 03

  Okay, so, so when we have twins one day, uh, how about if it's a guy and a girl, uh, or non-binary, we can just name them. But Francesco and Francesca.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  We're not doing that. That's a terrible idea. Carry on.

• 32:56Laci Mosley?

  So, y'all are a fool. Um, so I will say that I think this is a great scam. If I was whoever was in this van, I would keep like a veil in my van. I'd be like, oh, there they go.

• 33:06Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:07Laci Mosley?

  Throw that joint on.

• 33:10Laci Mosley?

  And slide, I slide right in every time, like, ooh.

• 33:14Speaker 03

  I blocked one, of course.

• 33:18Laci Mosley?

  And a full veil in my car, like, ooh, no, we gotta go to the red light.

• 33:23Speaker 04

  And a headshot, just in case, of course.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  Also, if, as he said, the funeral home, uh, had stickers or something, I would go to the funeral home, be like, can I get some extra stickers? They're like, for what? Just for memories?

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 33:33Speaker 03

  My scrapbook.

• 33:35Laci Mosley?

  If you know, I bet you, you could go to the funeral home at any time and be like, hey, I need some stickers. Cause, uh, we out, we out front for the loss. We out front for the loss.

• 33:43Speaker 04

  No, here's what you do.

• 33:44Laci Mosley?

  Of who? Of who? Hold on, let me look at your program. Uh, Gertie.

• 33:49Speaker 04

  I'm gonna tell you something, Lacey. This is the scam. Here's the play. Here's what you do. You pretend like you're an elementary school or like middle school student doing a school project.

• 33:59Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna do that as an adult?

• 34:00Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no. Here it is, here it is. You write them letters. You send letters and you ask them and you send them a, a, an envelope with a stamp. And you ask them to send you those and say you're doing a collage, uh, of funeral homes and the way that we. or loved ones cuz low key when I was a kid mm hmm this is real when I I found out I I was told one time we had to do a class project where we had to learn about companies and corporations and how you could write them a letter and they would send you something and I I picked a chocolate chip cookie company and they sent me a box of chocolate chip cookies in the mail was that well I was in like sixth grade so I started low key sending little letters to people all the time and I would get random stuff in the mail that eighties but I'm saying that can still happen if you just tell them you're a kid they're not they don't want to hurt a kid it'll be easier just to walk in you might get a few

• 34:42Laci Mosley?

  yeah this is a lot also you're you're requiring too much of the funeral home like they have to get new in the body and now they gotta go mail you some damn stickers

• 34:50Speaker 04

  I tell you it makes me nervous I told you I told you at the top of this thing I get nervous breaking rules so I can't go in person and do it asking for stickers you gonna come up with a fake story about somebody dying to get some stickers there's no connection to me get a pillbox

• 35:02Laci Mosley?

  AJ prefers to do mail fraud AJ prefers to do mail fraud it's like no I stick to mail fraud face to face is just a little too uh you know uncomfortable for me but I love a mail fraud no I'm going in there and I'm just be like hey uh we with the ones who just left oh the the Thompsons yeah yeah yeah yeah we need some more car stickers cuz uh some cuss has pulled up from Arizona

• 35:25Speaker 04

  right

• 35:26Laci Mosley?

  like

• 35:27Speaker 04

  they were late yeah

• 35:29Laci Mosley?

  and then I'm like always having a funeral procession sticker on my car and there's no one in a procession I'm just running lights

• 35:36Speaker 04

  people like hella nice to you they're getting out of your way they're like sending you their their

• 35:39Laci Mosley?

  you ain't see the sticker you ain't see the sticker like damn she got somebody die every week

• 35:45Speaker 04

  oh my god she's going through it

• 35:48Laci Mosley?

  and it's time for my favorite segment of the show historic hoodwink this is when I will regale AJ and Emile with a famous con caper maybe group of criminals um and we'll see so uh I just want to give you guys a note like the monetary figures in this episode have been converted from USD to AUD um I'm a person I know what AUD is what kind what a dollar is that Australian

• 36:10Speaker 04

  I know I'm like

• 36:11Laci Mosley?

  yeah it's Australia okay I was right yeah look at me knowing other people's coins I want to go to Australia but they got lots of like uh animal insects that like every other day they be talking about a new spider or something on the ground that's killing you I'm like

• 36:25Speaker 04

  but also that's a long flight

• 36:27Laci Mosley?

  I feel like guys started the plague first at Australia. He was like, we'll just get the plague popping slowly.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  You know Australia was all prisoners back in the day, right?

• 36:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 36:36Speaker 04

  You know how that's Australia started, just prisoners? And now they're all, now they're bad boys and girls. Wait, everybody was a prisoner? Well, kind of.

• 36:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was like a, like an island where they were sent off, like from Europe and like they were sending criminals over there.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  The indigenous people, the Aboriginal people that inhabited originally before like the white man came and then they sent like prisoners there. I think that's what I was gonna do. And then they enslaved the Aboriginal people and then they made this whole thing. Before it was a prison thing though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But then they like kind of enslaved them and took over their country and then sent prisoners there. Lord.

• 37:05Laci Mosley?

  I mean, you know, colonialism, you know.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  I gotta apologize for that. You know, I just like, real quickly, as the white man on this, I feel like I gotta apologize.

• 37:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God, AJ. Oh, oh wow. Thank you for that apology. Oh my God, is racism disappearing?

• 37:18Speaker 04

  It's over, it's over. Reparations, there they are.

• 37:21Laci Mosley?

  I see it evaporating right now, like Thanos. Um, so from a young age, Jodi Harris built a criminal career stealing identities and committing large scale fraud. She was an expert at emptying bank accounts and wooing policemen. Ooh, is she a baddie? I need a photo. Which earned her the reputation as the con queen of Australia. The con queen of Australia. Uh, damn, I can't do it. Uh, Lysides. The con queen of Australia.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  Oh, this is her. Okay. That car, con yourself into a better ride, honey. Is that a Pontiac?

• 37:53Laci Mosley?

  Can we zoom in a little bit more?

• 37:55Speaker 04

  That's rough.

• 37:57Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so Jodi's not hard on the eyes. I don't know what this outfit is about. I thought she was gonna give us more, you know, Sofia Vergara or something.

• 38:06Speaker 04

  She's relatable, that's the thing. That's how she coned you. But the policeman?

• 38:12Laci Mosley?

  Well, the policeman, you know. So.

• 38:16Laci Mosley?

  So Jodi Harris was born in Queensland, Australia. She began befriending police officers at Melbourne Police Station, telling them she was 20 years old. She started a relationship with one officer and told him that she was the daughter of an advertising executive and had attended a prestigious Brisbane girls' school. He only found out her true age when she crashed his car. In disgrace, he moved overseas. So Jodi committed a series of other fraud at a young age, including what would become her signature move, impersonating a police officer. She had begun stealing the identities and money from victims using a variety of disguises, elaborate stories, and unmitigated confidence to convince people that she was who she wasn't. I love that.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  That's the part though, it's the confidence for me that I gotta kind of respect it.

• 38:56Laci Mosley?

  Because if you do things confidently, people don't have any reason to question you. Like, if I come, if I came up to y'all, when I met Emile at the restaurant, and I was like, hi, I'm Lacey, like, he wasn't gonna be like, are you? Like,

• 39:08Speaker 03

  Right.

• 39:09Speaker 04

  We work in an entire industry of just overly confident people who are succeeding well beyond their skill level.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  Who was, what was the name of the woman who came up on the screen?

• 39:19Laci Mosley?

  So, she had like an obsession with cops. Her career grew. She funded her taste in luxury goods and hotels by occasionally stealing documents from staff and guests at her swanky getaways. Despite the growing success, she seemed to be obsessed with the police. She had stolen a police badge and used it to pass herself off as a detective, getting a license from victims in order to steal their identities. Wow.

• 39:41Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 39:43Laci Mosley?

  So she would show up, flash a badge, and be like, okay, run me your social security, run me your driver's license, I gotta do a background check. Sir, I'm, I, you said I was jaywalking, yeah, yeah, but I gotta do a background check, uh, just make sure, uh, that Jay ain't a L, so.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  But like, also, Loki, you could give me every single bit of information, every number, every address, everything that you have, and I still wouldn't know what to do with it. Like, I would have no idea, like, how do I make money off this? I wouldn't even know.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  Figure it out.

• 40:10Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  Listen, it ain't that hard, AJ. Go ahead and run me everything. Oh, actually, we'll talk up camera, I don't wanna incriminate myself.

• 40:18Laci Mosley?

  So, she managed to convince a Melbourne, Brisbane police, excuse me, Melbourne and Brisbane police, on separate occasions, that she was an undercover officer and gained access to their facilities. Wow, she was like, she did a blue streak. She was like, yeah, yeah, I work here.

• 40:34Laci Mosley?

  She came in with a box of donuts and was like, I've been transferred. And they're like, where?

• 40:41Speaker 03

  No, she convinced the police?

• 40:43Speaker 04

  I'm trying to think of another place in all of Australia. Sydney, I'm from, I'm from the Sydney branch.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  It's not, but that's, I, I'd take some type of skill.

• 40:53Speaker 04

  I'd be sweating through my arms, like, my armpits, I'd be so nervous.

• 40:57Laci Mosley?

  Sweating through my arms.

• 41:01Laci Mosley?

  So, I'll be sweating through my arms, y'all. So, according to police sources, she had even been given access to confidential information about police operations and was issued a gun when she accompanied police on a drug raid.

• 41:13Speaker 04

  Wait, they just gave her a gun?

• 41:15Speaker 03

  See, there's some, there's some.

• 41:17Speaker 04

  Does she have documentation?

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  You might be a bad bitch to just show up with some donuts and a story and they like, alright, here you go, here's a gun.

• 41:25Speaker 03

  Yo, shut it all down.

• 41:28Laci Mosley?

  What size you wear, what size you wear, we gonna get you some new police uniform outfit. She come in with the, the tearaway police outfit, uh, for strippers. And they were like, Jody, Jody, your pants is falling off. Oh, yeah, y'all, can y'all run me another uniform and a gun? I left mine at my other precinct. Yeah, give me a Glock.

• 41:47Speaker 03

  I am done.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Give me a Glock.

• 41:51Laci Mosley?

  What is going on in Australian Police Department that niggas just run up and be like, yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  But Loki, you know Loki, every time this happens though in America, we hear about all these shootings all the time, they had one mass shooting like the 1990s and they shut that shit down and haven't had one since. So they're doing something right, but apparently they're giving everybody guns.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, just letting random people come in and get guns.

• 42:09Laci Mosley?

  Why did you have to bring up our country? Like, that's very embarrassing. Like, you know, our country is very embarrassing.

• 42:16Speaker 04

  It's a little bit trash right now. I get it, I get it.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  Right now.

• 42:19Speaker 04

  The last 400 years, for the last 400 years, I get it. Listen, some of us white people are catching up.

• 42:25Laci Mosley?

  American ain't been shit since 1619.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  Listen, let them know.

• 42:30Laci Mosley?

  So, during this time, Jody also continued to steal the hearts of police officers across Australia and supposedly live with a New South Wales detective for six months. What?

• 42:40Speaker 04

  That's not a good detective. He's a detective and he did not know? Like a background check on her?

• 42:46Speaker 03

  They all shady, I'm telling you, man. He knew.

• 42:48Laci Mosley?

  He was expecting that coochie.

• 42:50Speaker 03

  Exactly. He knew exactly what he was doing. Like, no, I'm gonna ride this out and I'm gonna let Jody ride me. Go ahead.

• 42:59Laci Mosley?

  So here's some examples of her scams over the years. So for a decade, Jodi continued to have rather successful career despite, and yes, we are calling her career robbery. That's her career, that's her chosen profession, okay?

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Okay, okay.

• 43:09Laci Mosley?

  So she was very successful, okay? CEO of crime, you know? Despite her relationships with the police, she posed as doctors, psychologists, business managers, and even said that she was the niece of a late mafia boss Mario Condello. So she's even pretending to be in the mob.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  Well, that keeps people off your back.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  I mean, she had it covered from all angles.

• 43:31Laci Mosley?

  Right, she was working, hitting them angles, okay? One time, a woman hit her head in Melbourne's Century City Square, and Jodi, taking advantage of the situation, posed as a doctor and swooped in to drive her to the hospital.

• 43:43Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 43:45Laci Mosley?

  At the hospital, she told the woman's father that she was a nurse and caught him out of enough information to change the woman's bank password and steal $8,000.

• 43:53Speaker 03

  Wait, wait, this lady, this lady is injured in the hospital and she over here still worrying about her cons?

• 43:59Speaker 04

  Listen, you gotta be some kind of cold. You literally just drove this woman to the hospital, probably heard her crying to you, sharing her darkest, like fears that she's gonna like die, and then you steal from her?

• 44:11Laci Mosley?

  She drove her to the hospital, like some would say that's an ambulance.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  Oh, so then she got her ambulance fees, yes!

• 44:17Laci Mosley?

  So she got her ambulance fee. How do we know Jodi wasn't like, wee, woo, wee, woo, wee? How do we know Jodi didn't steal a funeral home sticker and run all the lights for my goodness?

• 44:27Speaker 04

  She's like the Uber of ambulances.

• 44:30Speaker 03

  Here he is.

• 44:30Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 44:31Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 44:32Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start doing Uber for people who can't afford ambulances, AKA most of our country. Like, no, no, no, call Lacy, call Lacy, she'll be here at 25, no, I got you.

• 44:42Speaker 03

  She's about a thousand dollars cheaper.

• 44:45Laci Mosley?

  We got Tylenol, okay, lay him in the backseat, lay him in the backseat, put the tarp up, okay, we got Tylenol.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  He was in the hospital weeks ago, and I took him to the hospital in the backseat curled up in a ball, like literally in pain, and I, I gotta invoice you.

• 44:57Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  I'm gonna invoice you now, you agree, you agree with her?

• 45:00Speaker 03

  Wait, y'all can't see my face, but if you would've saw my face just now, I was like, wait, hold up, because what we're not gonna do is that, wait a minute.

• 45:06Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, Emile, I, I saw AJ driving past, and he had one fist out the window talking about wee, woo, wee, woo, wee.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  The traffic was moving, they was moving to the side.

• 45:18Speaker 03

  We gonna make this believable. Everybody move out the way.

• 45:21Laci Mosley?

  My ambulance gonna have Gatorade, it's gonna have Tylenol.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  Those electrolytes, yes, I support.

• 45:28Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna have the three leftover Cody's for my tooth extraction, you know, you can have that.

• 45:37Laci Mosley?

  We're gonna have water, okay? And we're gonna have ambient music, it's gonna be vibes in there, you know what I mean?

• 45:42Speaker 03

  Ambient music? If I'm ever in your ambulance, I would like smooth jazz. You need to do like a request form for either the...

• 45:52Laci Mosley?

  Or, I mean, if you like drama, I could put on "Someone please call 911."

• 45:59Speaker 03

  They get in there, you got a little clipboard, please check the vibe and mood that you would like for your ambulance ride.

• 46:08Laci Mosley?

  Right, listen, so technically, I'm just gonna say, my good sis Jody was in ambulance, so she had to get her ambulance fee. Uh, makes sense to me.

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• 48:49Laci Mosley?

  So, one of her victims told police she was even able to change all my personal details on the cards to hers to the point where when I tried to change them back to mine, I could hardly prove who I was anymore. Wow, that is identity theft. Like, she really stole the identity.

• 49:07Speaker 04

  That would drive you, that would drive me nuts. If somebody's like, no, they're like, well, no. They think I'm the criminal. I'm like, no, no, no, no. He stole my shit. I'm the, I'm actually him.

• 49:16Laci Mosley?

  I'm sorry, Mr. AJ, if that's your name, you're getting really loud.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Of course I'm getting loud.

• 49:21Laci Mosley?

  You're getting really loud in the bank?

• 49:23Speaker 04

  You're getting heated now.

• 49:27Laci Mosley?

  I can't do the A's.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  I really am. I was over here sitting here, I thought I was watching the scene right now, because I'm looking at Lacey and she's the act, so go ahead.

• 49:35Laci Mosley?

  That's what was happening, Emile.

• 49:37Speaker 04

  No, I feel like this is, no, this is like an advertisement for our podcast, Confess Your Mess, because she was actually our first guest on Confess Your Mess.

• 49:43Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  Had to do with her accent.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Listen.

• 49:47Speaker 04

  You have to listen to understand what the confession was, but I feel like we're back.

• 49:51Laci Mosley?

  Yes, we are. So, but yes, so there, you know, she's taking people's identities for real, for real. Like, you know, you hear about a little credit card for us. She was like, no, I am you now. You can't get you back. It was like, do you want to start over? Like, would you like a new name? It's like, no, I would like the one I had. We don't believe that's you.

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  Another time, Jody walked into a boutique posing as a business manager. She spent $600 and invited the boutique's owner out to coffee. I don't like going to coffee. I feel like coffee is a scam thing. I actually just unmatched with somebody on Hinge because they were like, let's go to coffee. I'm like, what do you want from me? No.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  That is real. I used to do the coffee thing in my 30s a lot, and like, one person would always be asking the other person for like, an introduction or some sort of advice or something, every single time.

• 50:38Laci Mosley?

  Every single time. Right, and listen, I'm not mad at the scam, but I can't be having it ran on me. I matched with some guy and he said he was in some other profession. You know, if people say marketing, advertisement, all that type of shit, and they don't have consulting, and they don't have like, a specific company, I'm like, this is a lie. You, I don't know what to do.

• 50:57Speaker 04

  You know how like Starbucks is successful because they, like, for an entire generation of people, it was like a luxury item, and it makes people all, like, whether you're a multimillionaire or you're like, lower, middle income, you feel kind of fancy when you carry a Starbucks, right? It's like a nice elevated sort of coffee experience, as opposed to like Folgers from like the 80s.

• 51:13Laci Mosley?

  Damn, do you work for them?

• 51:14Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 51:16Speaker 03

  I was like, you're selling me on this.

• 51:17Speaker 04

  Lowkey, I understand the business model.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  Folgers in it.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  No, I understand the business model. So for me, so coffee.

• 51:23Speaker 03

  It's Folgers in your cup, damn.

• 51:24Speaker 04

  If somebody is gonna, I'm gonna tell you a secret, can I tell you a secret? I had, I dated a boyfriend in college, my college sweetheart, and he used to sing, "The best part of waking up is AJ in your..." Figure it out. So.

• 51:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, wow.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm, I'm a morning guy.

• 51:38Laci Mosley?

  And then he said it.

• 51:39Speaker 04

  I'm a morning guy. The word is butt, ladies and gentlemen, but also, um, so coffee is that thing like when you're, when you're broke and you're trying to come up and you're trying to like get like, I don't know, like a producer or like somebody to like sit down with you and like hear your idea or consider you for a gig, right? You're like, oh, let me take you to coffee because low key, you can't afford the whole lunch or the dinner. You can just afford the coffee. So somebody asks you if they could take you to coffee, it's because they're broke.

• 52:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And like, I, I get it in LA, everybody's on these dating apps going like six to apps or six dates a day. That, that starts to add up, but with me, you gonna take me to dinner or I'm not talking to you. And, and he had his Instagram on the hinge and then when I looked at the Instagram, I saw we had mutuals and then I saw he was like, like maybe a few scrolls back. He was like, they, I had so much fun on this like random ass TV network that you can only get in certain cities. And I was like, oh my God, this man is an actor. He's trying to go out with me so he could get advice. And I just looked unmatched immediately. I was like, oh God, I'm gonna have to get off the apps. It's not working for me. I don't know what I'm gonna do, like.

• 52:40Laci Mosley?

  I didn't get some corporate friends.

• 52:41Speaker 04

  She's unraveling right now.

• 52:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God, no I'm not. So back to Jody. So while at coffee, Jody managed to steal the woman's license with which she accessed her bank accounts and stole over $60,000.

• 52:57Speaker 04

  Well, that's real money now. Oh my God.

• 52:59Laci Mosley?

  Wait, so let me just walk this back for you. Jody walked into a boutique, posed as a business manager. She spent $600. So she dropped some cash up front to be like, I got coins, honey. I'm that bitch. Probably walked in with a drip, right? So that's like the bait, right? That's the bait. So now this business, uh, boutique owner is probably like, oh, she spent $600. Like it was nothing. She didn't even look at nothing she picked up. Oh, she must have money. She was like, oh, you got money. So when Jody was like, let's go to coffee. She was like, yes, please. And then when they went, she somehow managed to steal all her information and then got her bank account and stole 60 grand.

• 53:38Speaker 03

  That's a good, that's a good return on your investment. Right. Six hundred bucks for sixty grand? Wow. That's like ten thousand. It's a lot, I don't know. No, that's the wrong math. That's definitely the wrong math, cause ten thousand times six hundred, oh lord.

• 53:50Laci Mosley?

  Cause ten, it's like a hundred percent return?

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Wait, you did math on our podcast too and you nailed it, you were good.

• 53:56Laci Mosley?

  You add a zero, that's six thousand, so it's a, so it would be a hundred, cause you have to add two zeros.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, yeah. Also, six hundred times a hundred. Oh yeah, that's four zeros.

• 54:06Laci Mosley?

  It's a hundred times.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Yes, okay, okay. We did math, y'all. Everybody clap for math, clap for math. Math with Lacey.

• 54:12Laci Mosley?

  Reading, writing and arithmetic. You know we do it all on Scam Goddess. I know somebody was screaming at the, uh, radio or iPod, like, bitch, it's a hundred! I, I got there, I got there, okay? I was like, Harry does the wrong, Curry another's the wrong, okay?

• 54:31Laci Mosley?

  So, Andrew Twinning. By two thousand and six, detectives across the southeast, uh, southeast in Australia were hunting for the unknown woman who had been traveling across the country, impersonating a variety of professions, stealing identities and draining them make accounts. Woo, she was draining them. Uh, it was also around this time that she met Andrew Twinning on a dating site. Woo, chap.

• 54:50Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 54:51Laci Mosley?

  Damn, Andrew is in it too. Look at him smiling in this photo. They took a photo at dinner and she holding his hand like, yeah, baby, we in love.

• 54:58Speaker 03

  And he's got that classic sweater, undershirt combo, yeah. Yep. That's, that's money. You know he got money.

• 55:03Laci Mosley?

  Right, right, that's it, that, the, I got money but I still buy clothes from Eddie Bauer.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Right.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  I wear loose balances and bad jeans, cause I don't got time for fashion, cause I'm making money. Buy, buy, sell, sell.

• 55:15Speaker 03

  You look at that back table, it's grainy, but they, they, they eating good. But also, there's a pepper mill. Does that look like lobster? It looks like some lobster and vegetables. There's artwork on the wall.

• 55:25Laci Mosley?

  Is that lots of zooming on that, Marina? Can we see, can we zoom anymore?

• 55:27Speaker 03

  It could be.

• 55:29Laci Mosley?

  Now that boat looked ratchet, but I don't know how to show you.

• 55:31Speaker 03

  I didn't wanna say nothing about the boat, I didn't wanna judge the boat now. It's a nice, a nice, a nice Cabernet.

• 55:37Laci Mosley?

  That Bo is giving like Home Goods, we went and got a painting. You know, it's actually giving Ross, we went and got a painting.

• 55:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, for real.

• 55:45Laci Mosley?

  Would never.

• 55:46Speaker 04

  For real.

• 55:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, okay, so, you know, but he taking her on a date. Obviously, the date went well enough that he wanna smile into a camera with her, you know, and she got the titties titty. She got up sitting on the table.

• 55:56Speaker 04

  But Loki, can we just mention that doesn't really look like a restaurant, it looks like somebody's house. Like, it doesn't give you restaurant vibes.

• 56:03Laci Mosley?

  But like, it's against the wall like that, you don't just have a tablecloth at your house.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  And that other, like, that iced tea looking cup, that's like the curved glasses they only have in restaurants. But they don't have those type of fancy restaurants, so now I'm questioning whether or not this is best.

• 56:15Laci Mosley?

  What if they were grabbing a quick lunch?

• 56:17Speaker 04

  They're at Buca di Beppo, that's where, they're at Buca di Beppo. The Capri Room by Dorit Kelsley from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. That's where they are, the Capri Room.

• 56:27Laci Mosley?

  It's giving buka, it's definitely giving buka. So, Andrew Twinning was, believe it or not, a Victorian policeman. Okay, so he ain't got it money like that, that's, it was giving buka.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  He dressing like a policeman, yeah.

• 56:40Laci Mosley?

  Jody had told him that she was a Virgin Airways hostess. Okay, so.

• 56:45Speaker 03

  I appreciate the versatility in Jody's professions.

• 56:49Laci Mosley?

  Jody Reed's, cuz like, how are you making up all these?

• 56:52Speaker 04

  Is that, is that, is that a flight attendant, is that what that is?

• 56:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 56:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:56Speaker 04

  Okay, okay.

• 56:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, uh, yeah, cuz they don't call them stewardesses anymore, they call them flight attendants, but I guess maybe they call them hostesses. Or maybe she was just a hostess, I don't know. And, uh, she was like, yeah, I work for Virgin, you ain't never rode them and they do the dance, like.

• 57:11Laci Mosley?

  I'm in there, I'm in there, I'm to the left, left, you gotta look when they doing the big number.

• 57:15Speaker 03

  I'm done.

• 57:18Laci Mosley?

  What is it? We let it fly, go on and live it on up in the sky. Virgin America knows, there's a place that you wanna be. Come away with me, come away with me, yeah, yeah. Listen, I used to fly Virgin a lot.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  We don't, we could not tell at all. No.

• 57:38Laci Mosley?

  They got bought out by Alaskan. They got bought out by Alaska Airlines, so now they about to be ass. Cause Virgin was the only plane that they would give you some mood light and give you a little purple.

• 57:47Speaker 04

  It was like a club.

• 57:47Speaker 03

  It was, yeah, it was the mood lighter for me, that purple light. And I was like, now wait a minute, I'm gonna sleep well on this flight, cause I, it's a vibe, it's a vibe.

• 57:55Laci Mosley?

  Virgin was giving vibes, bro.

• 57:57Speaker 04

  Remember you could like, you could like text people at other seats and you could like send them like direct messages and stuff on there, they had that like, like chat app on there, she could like flirt with somebody.

• 58:05Laci Mosley?

  They were trying to get you to hook up.

• 58:07Speaker 04

  Right.

• 58:07Laci Mosley?

  They pointed the mile high, they were like, we have a bathroom that's just for fucking. On Virgin, we want you to join the mile high club, okay? So y'all text y'all seatmates to see what's good.

• 58:16Speaker 03

  You might come out here a virgin, but you ain't gonna leave a virgin.

• 58:18Speaker 04

  I am done.

• 58:20Laci Mosley?

  We got the drinks poppin', it's like you can get bottle service on the Virgin flight. It's like, what? She has a sparkler, y'all, ain't that against FAA rules?

• 58:30Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Richard Rensson was like, turn it up. He was like, I want every flight to be like me on my private plane, but for the regular folks. But Alaskan Airlines probably gonna fuck that up, cause they cheap, so that was a good time, though. Except for after a while flying Virgin, I didn't wanna hear the whole song. I was like, can we get the radio edit? Like, we really gotta go through the whole thing, like. Put your seatbelt in the thing.

• 58:48Speaker 04

  Didn't Todd Rik Hall do the Virgin?

• 58:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, Todd did the Virgin, yeah, I remember that one.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  Wow, yeah, I remember that one. I used to send him that video, every so, I texted him, every sometime I'd get on that plane, and then after about three or four times, he probably got sick of it.

• 58:59Speaker 03

  And he's like, okay, you're flying.

• 59:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're in a plane, got it.

• 59:02Laci Mosley?

  He's like, I get this every day, yes, I know, Virgin America knows, this is where you wanna be, fly away with me, yeah, I get it. Damn, but I will say after a while, I came to really enjoy the old school dry, like the, the flight attendant comes out and she holds up a seatbelt, like she is just so through. And she, they're like, fasten it like this, make sure that you put the air on yourself, but for the air on somebody else. I came to enjoy that, cause it was shorter and it was, you know, quicker. Uh, so, yeah, so she says she, she flying away with me, okay? She working at Virgin America, okay?

• 59:37Laci Mosley?

  So that way, she had a plausible alibi when she would like disappear for days at a time. So she said, "I'm a flight hostess that way when she needed to go disappear."

• 59:46Speaker 04

  See, I don't think like that.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  That's smart.

• 59:48Speaker 04

  I'm not a scammer. I don't think like that.

• 59:50Laci Mosley?

  Damn, I'ma tell the next dude I don't wanna really be with, but I wanna keep dating that I'm a flight attendant.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, popping in, popping out of his life, he ain't have no question.

• 59:58Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, "Bo, I'm so sorry. I could not get your text from 35,000 feet."

• 1:00:03Laci Mosley?

  I'm so sorry. You know, I stay in the 35,000, you know, so.

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  I am done.

• 1:00:09Laci Mosley?

  Like, land is really hard for me, but I see when I see you. So while Andrew thought she was working on flights, she was instead stealing from flight attendants on flights. Damn, wait.

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  They don't have money.

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  I mean, some of them do.

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  Do they?

• 1:00:24Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 1:00:26Laci Mosley?

  During one business flight to Queensland, Jody sat next to a flight attendant named Leah. While Leah was in the restroom, Jody nabbed her license and using it alone managed to steal $16,000 from Leah's account over five separate occasions. Her entire haul in Queensland amounted to $52,000 in cash and goods. Andrew had no idea about his girlfriend's true identity until Victoria Police colleagues informed him that he was dating a criminal while on a cruise with his parents. Damn, I know that probably fucked up the captain's dinner. He was on a cruise with mom and daddy.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  He was like, "Man, I met this woman, Jody. Oh my God." When y'all meet her, I swear, and they're like, "Sir."

• 1:01:05Laci Mosley?

  He talking her up.

• 1:01:08Laci Mosley?

  Nah, she's got the best heart. Yeah, nah, I see her, I see her once every three weeks when she's not flying. But we in love. She got the best furniture in her house. I'm telling you, Zee Gallery, you knock on it, like, no cork cord in sight.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  We love Zee Gallery.

• 1:01:26Speaker 04

  We do.

• 1:01:26Speaker 03

  Our pillows came from Zee Gallery.

• 1:01:28Laci Mosley?

  Classy. So Jody immediately went on the run and taunted police with phone calls and photos of herself. Not you sending photos to the police. What is, I think that maybe when Jody dated that police officer when she was real young, it made an impact on her and maybe after that she was like, fuck the police, but not for like legitimate reasons. She was just like, my boyfriend left town because I lied to him about my age. Now I hate the police. But honestly, like, she might have lied to him about her age, but any grown ass man or grown ass human being can tell when somebody is a minor. There's very rare cases, and I'm not gonna say any because I don't want to be mean, where somebody does not look like they are a minor.

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  Speak on it.

• 1:02:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Speaker 03

  Speak on it.

• 1:02:12Laci Mosley?

  So it's like, he was a little creepy, like, don't rule that out. So, um, she's taunting the police. Like, she's almost giving me serial killer vibes, where she's just like, wants to kind of be caught or wants the attention, wants like, she's like, tell them it was me.

• 1:02:29Speaker 03

  Let them know it was Jody.

• 1:02:31Laci Mosley?

  Let them know it was Jody.

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  Why have to have a cadence like that? It was me, Jody.

• 1:02:37Laci Mosley?

  Jody. So, a week after the first Herald Sun, a Melbourne newspaper, published its first story about Jody in 2006, she called Senior Detective Paul Berncello's office and told him where she had been living. Damn, now she calling the police and being like, okay, so this where I was staying at.

• 1:02:57Laci Mosley?

  If you want me, come and get me, coppers.

• 1:03:00Speaker 03

  Being hella dramatic. Go ahead, Jody.

• 1:03:02Laci Mosley?

  So authorities arrived at a vacated apartment union, unit and found a Queensland Police badge, a Victoria Police shirt and a virgin blue hostess outfit along with a name tag, pin, crew bag and tags. Now why is she sitting them on this little goose chase?

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  Wait, she got them doing the scavenger hunts. Like, she calling, she saying, so now you're gonna go to this address.

• 1:03:22Speaker 04

  She wants to get busted.

• 1:03:23Speaker 03

  Meet me in the park at three.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  To arrest me, you coppers. It's like, Jody, you are having too much fun.

• 1:03:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'll be dressed as a police officer, figure it out.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  Oh, Jody had time today. I'm done. Oh, God.

• 1:03:39Laci Mosley?

  I'll be dressed as a tree. Good luck. What? This is what? I have confusion. So Senior Sergeant Glenn Davies said, "It's like a scenario from the Leonardo DiCaprio film, Catch Me If You Can."

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  I've been thinking about this entire time. The whole time I wanted to say that reference, but I couldn't think of that movie. Yeah.

• 1:03:58Laci Mosley?

  So it's earning Jody the nickname of Australia's Catch Me If You Can Thief. I'm gonna say it doesn't really ring on the ear. I feel like it could come up with something.

• 1:04:07Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 1:04:08Laci Mosley?

  Maybe in the X, Australia's Catch Me If You Can Thief.

• 1:04:12Speaker 04

  Ooh, it actually sounds better there.

• 1:04:14Speaker 03

  That sells it, yeah.

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  It worked.

• 1:04:18Laci Mosley?

  So getting caught. While still on the cruise ship, Andrew told authorities everything he knew about Jody and agreed to help them set a trap for her when he returned to Australia. Damn.

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  Turning their end.

• 1:04:29Laci Mosley?

  He gave you up quick. Andrew really like did a 180 and gave her up. Probably because he was embarrassed. His mama and daddy were there.

• 1:04:35Speaker 03

  I was about to say, he got embarrassed in front of his parents. He was like, damn, I'm like a 40. How old was that man? He was...

• 1:04:40Speaker 04

  He's a grown man. He's a detective who didn't detect shit. Uh huh.

• 1:04:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh damn, he didn't detect nothing. No radar. Wow, radar completely off. Radar said, "Tu, tu, tu."

• 1:04:52Speaker 03

  Questioning his whole life. He's like, "I didn't even know the woman that I..." Go ahead.

• 1:04:56Laci Mosley?

  Like, Andrew, we didn't raise you... I can't do it. Immediately went cockney. Okay, so when he returned, he asked Jody to meet him and she took the bait. Damn, Jody, see this? Come on, Jody! You know you can't trust these men.

• 1:05:09Speaker 04

  She's slipping up.

• 1:05:10Laci Mosley?

  These hoes ain't loyal. So the second she got in his car, officers swooped in and the con queen of Australia was finally arrested. When she was captured, Jody was carrying with her a cache of more than 100 fake IDs, including driver's license, passports, Medicare cards, credit cards, mobile phones, SIM cards. So damn, she was getting Medicare. She was like, "Yeah, I need an eye appointment. I need to get my pap smear." Yeah, today I am... Uh, I'm Josh Simpson. Yeah.

• 1:05:39Speaker 03

  How she keep track of a bunch of SIM cards? Right. Jody was smart, man. Or was she?

• 1:05:45Laci Mosley?

  I hope she had like a little folders. Like, how you got that many IDs on you at once? Like, how do you choose? Which one do you use?

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  And also, where she, I guess she could have had her purse. But yeah, that would get confusing. She got like a little, one of those little card books, the spiral books she's gonna scroll through. Hold on, right now, uh, yes, Rachel.

• 1:06:02Laci Mosley?

  So right now, we have a little picture of all the cards, the passports, the IDs.

• 1:06:07Speaker 03

  Wait, there's a couple California IDs up there, too. You see those right in the middle? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yo, Jody was getting it. Whoa.

• 1:06:17Laci Mosley?

  Jody, how you scamming all the way to California?

• 1:06:20Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 1:06:22Laci Mosley?

  Wow. She was scamming, scamming all over the world. We love to see it. So, as Jody was led to prison, she showed a tattoo on her wrist to journalists and yelled about her presumably ex-boyfriend Andrew. He's got a matching tattoo on his, I wish I could do this. He's got a, he's got a matching tattoo on his arse. I can't do it. He's got a matching tattoo on his arse, right cheek, exactly the same. Damn.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, I'm looking at this photo of Jody. I just see like the, the pain in her face. She was like, I almost got away with it, too, if it wasn't for that damn Andrew. Wow.

• 1:06:59Laci Mosley?

  Damn, she does look mad. She's like, Andrew, how could you do this to me? And she's like, we got matching tattoos. You got it on, you got it on your ass, I got it on my wrist.

• 1:07:08Speaker 03

  But that's commitment. She was going all in. I think she actually loved Andrew.

• 1:07:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Matching tattoos, that's that ratchet love, you know?

• 1:07:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:18Laci Mosley?

  You know, and that's real, you know, that's that kind of, we key your car. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if she got out of jail and then start fucking around with Andrew again, you know? That's that hustling flow, sweaty, no air conditioning, tongue kiss love.

• 1:07:32Laci Mosley?

  So, Jody faced a series of sentences in parole across North South Wales, Victoria and, and Brisbane for her crimes, which totaled over a hundred counts. Wow. They got in there and they were like, one.

• 1:07:51Laci Mosley?

  She pretended to be in the police.

• 1:07:55Laci Mosley?

  She robbed a bitch of coffee.

• 1:08:02Laci Mosley?

  She was ganking on the plane. Four, she stole from it. Like, this is like, damn. Oh, wow. This is, this is sad. So, on September 2006, at the age of 28, Jody pleaded guilty to stealing $130,000 from 33 victims of North South Wales.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  Wait, wait, wait. She was 28 in that photo? She was 28. She was 28 going on 46. Let me tell y'all, because Jody was aging because of all the stress from trying to keep up these multiple identities. She was kidding, the weight of a lot of lives. I did not think she was 28. Dang.

• 1:08:32Laci Mosley?

  Yo, I bet going into Starbucks is very triggering for Jody. They'd be like, "Coffee for Jim?" She's like, "Fuck, is that me today?"

• 1:08:42Laci Mosley?

  Anytime somebody's name get called, she looking like, "They talking about me?"

• 1:08:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's stress. That's too much stress, Jody. So, then the Melbourne County Court, Harris Police, uh, or, excuse me, Harris, Jody Harris, pleaded guilty to 36 counts relating to 15 victims, including stealing $90,000 from several banks. To this day, Jody's investigators grudgingly admit that she's the best female confidence swindler Australia's ever seen. I don't know, maybe you just need to take the female off and put her up there with the best. Like, I feel like police officers, like, because of the misogyny and, like, all the awful things that are embedded in our criminal justice system, and, and, yeah, honestly, police everywhere. So, we're talking about Australia specifically, but we're still talking about men, for the most part. And, like, to be bested by a woman and she was calling y'all like, "Nana, nana, boo boo",

• 1:09:32Laci Mosley?

  for so long, like, I'm sure that really hurts their egos, which it shouldn't. They should be, like, proud. Like, this is exciting.

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  Come get me, copers.

• 1:09:43Laci Mosley?

  Come and get me.

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  It was me, Jody.

• 1:09:48Laci Mosley?

  She was leaving little notes, she was leaving little note recorders, like, let's see what it says. It was me.

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  Oh my god, RuPaul, oh RuPaul's Drag Race, when they get eliminated, she goes, she turns around, and she's like, it was me, Jody, and then she sashays away.

• 1:10:02Laci Mosley?

  Right, that's her, Miss Jody, Miss Jody.

• 1:10:08Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:10:09Laci Mosley?

  Yo, so she really, she really humbled them, and I appreciate that. As of 2019, Jody was living with her mother and working as a mobile home cleaner. Now, why? How? Why would y'all let her work in somebody's home where all of their things are? I just feel like Jody, work at a call center, work in a bank, not at a bank, but work, you know, but work in people's homes? I don't know, your finger's too sticky. So magistrate Alan Moore sentenced Harris to just four years with non-parole period of three and a half. After that, Harris faced the Victorian count in court, so she gotta go.

• 1:10:41Speaker 03

  Lord.

• 1:10:42Laci Mosley?

  She said, okay, I got four years to do here. All right, we getting in the Uber? All right, so now we gonna go to the Victorian count in court, they gonna give me my jail time over there. So there she was sentenced to be jailed for five years and nine months, effectively adding nine months to her new South Wales sentence. So they don't compound these like that, like?

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  They ran them concurrently, so they actually, she got credit for both at the same time.

• 1:11:02Laci Mosley?

  Yo, that's a nice hookup, cuz in America, they'd be like consecutive, back to back, to back to back.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  Oh wow.

• 1:11:09Laci Mosley?

  Uh, so wow, so with time already served, she paroled within two years. Come on, Jody, that's what I'm talking about.

• 1:11:16Speaker 03

  She's thirty, she's thirty, she's getting out at thirty.

• 1:11:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's not bad, a two-year bid for like ten years of living lavish, stealing from everybody?

• 1:11:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 1:11:25Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, sounds good to me. So later on parole, Harris had to go to Brisbane magistrate court over her Queensland crime spree, so now she gotta go to another court, like, it's like, another court, another court, jail, another court, another court.

• 1:11:40Laci Mosley?

  But, another court. She gotta hit them all. So, so she goes over there. She admitted to a hundred and sixteen forgery and theft charges and was given a suspended sentence of twelve months. So, wow, so, Jody, shout out to a real one. Shout out to a, and she's free. Jody, she out here in these streets.

• 1:12:05Speaker 03

  It was me.

• 1:12:05Laci Mosley?

  Don't leave your all around me, true robber for real.

• 1:12:08Speaker 03

  I'm done. Situation.

• 1:12:12Laci Mosley?

  Situations will arise.

• 1:12:17Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh, yo, Jody is a real man.

• 1:12:22Laci Mosley?

  Let me get your social.

• 1:12:28Laci Mosley?

  I don't know why I'm in a remixing song mood today, sorry.

• 1:12:30Speaker 03

  I live for it.

• 1:12:32Laci Mosley?

  It's time for the saddest part of the show where I have to let Emile and AJ go, but before we do that, scammer of the week, this is where we highlight an honorary, honorary, I can't even talk, honorary charlatan, uh, group of criminals, you know, uh, we don't know, and maybe we hate them, maybe we love them, we'll see. So, a man from Escondido, California, has pleaded guilty to 1.1 million in art fraud scheme. So, Jason Harrington, 38, sold forgeries he claimed to be by the artist Richard Hamilton, a Canadian artist known for his work as a street artist, to at least 15 galleries and individuals. The scam included Harrington using fake letters that were supposedly from the original buyers of the art, claiming that they received the pieces from Hamilton himself in order to sell the prospective new buyers. Okay, let me see some of his art.

• 1:13:17Laci Mosley?

  So Harrington also photoshopped pictures to make it seem like the people who obtained the artwork personally knew or met Hamilton. So, is these black people? Is that Michael Jackson?

• 1:13:31Laci Mosley?

  I don't like that. So, he wrote, he wrote fake letters and was like, my cousin Johnny met Hamilton and he got this, uh, art directly from him, actually the paint wasn't even dry yet, and he had got it from him, and look, this is a picture of them, and he done photoshopped somebody's hand on somebody else's body. I mean, there's a lot of effort here, and if it looked real, I mean, art is, art has a lot of scams.

• 1:13:58Speaker 03

  What is art?

• 1:13:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:00Laci Mosley?

  There's a lot of money laundering in art, there's a lot of scamming in art, so, you know, I don't know if I'm really that mad at it. So in combination with the elaborate cover stories, oh wait, what were we gonna say AJ?

• 1:14:11Speaker 04

  There's a lot of art stolen from a lot of countries by other rich countries who colonized, then keep that art and claim it as their own for generations and it actually doesn't belong to them.

• 1:14:19Laci Mosley?

  It's called a museum. It's called a museum. That's why, you know, everybody was, which annoyed me, cuz everyone was trying to get in Beyonce's ass about wearing that yellow diamond, the Tiffany diamond. What I was like, okay, but y'all wasn't in Lady Gaga's ass when she wore it, and I just feel like who could stop colonization better than the descendants of the colonizers?

• 1:14:41Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, like, I feel like y'all putting a lot on Beyonce, like, yeah, yeah, it's like, there, there's history there, but I'm like, I don't know, she's the closest to Africa the diamond's been in a while.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  Listen, I, I said the same thing, and she made donations too, like, leave that girl alone.

• 1:15:00Laci Mosley?

  Right, leave her alone. It's not black people's responsibility to stop, like, colonialism. Like, yes, we are fighting, yes, we are all a part of it, and we all do need to be conscious, and maybe it was a poor decision, maybe the optics aren't great, but y'all wasn't running it up on Lady Gaga like that. She got a whole song called Telephona, ain't none of y'all call her, so...

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  I'm done, I am done, with Beyonce, you better, you better let them know, full circle moment there.

• 1:15:26Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so like, come on now. Uh, so to wrap this up, in combination with an elaborate cover story and targeting gullible buyers, Harrington was also able to sell over 1 million of his own fake paintings. Bruh, I'm sorry, if it's a painting, it's a painting, how is it fake if I could touch it? And it's real.

• 1:15:43Speaker 04

  Listen, Scott Disick did this a couple seasons ago on Keeping Up The Kardashians, he was getting Kris, Kris Jenner back for a prank, for being an art snob, and he and Khloe made this painting that was just like trash.

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  Oh, I remember that episode.

• 1:15:56Speaker 04

  And he, he said it was from this, he had, he had like a little inn with this high-end art dealer named Art Vandalay, which is actually a character from Seinfeld back in the day. But she didn't know this, and he said it was from Art Vandalay, and she didn't know, and so she thought she was getting something very exclusive, cuz she's bougie and has money to spend, and they did this whole, they played this prank out for like a whole episode. And then finally revealed there's no Art Vandalay. But while she believed it was Art Vandalay, she thought it was really fancy and worth something. And then when she found out her daughter and Scott Disick did it, then she realized there was no value. So where's the value? I mean, it's all made up.

• 1:16:33Speaker 03

  It's all made up. That's why you gotta love yourself. You put the value in yourself.

• 1:16:36Laci Mosley?

  The beholder.

• 1:16:37Speaker 03

  Don't let nobody tell you your worth.

• 1:16:38Speaker 04

  That's right. That's right.

• 1:16:39Speaker 03

  I know. I'm a, I know.

• 1:16:41Laci Mosley?

  I just don't think there's any such thing as a fake painting.

• 1:16:44Speaker 04

  No, right? No, of course there's not. If you can see it, touch it, it's real.

• 1:16:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:48Laci Mosley?

  Right. It was real to me. So guys, that brings us to the end of a very fun episode.

• 1:16:55Laci Mosley?

  So wild one. There's gonna be a couple of double guest episodes coming up. We're getting the energy popping. But as always on this podcast, we ask, where do you want to be found, gentlemen? And anything you'd like to plug?

• 1:17:07Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. You can find me at Emile Inish Jr. And you can find me on the podcast, Confess Your Mess with AJ Gibson over here. And y'all can see me on the reel and support me on Amazon Live.

• 1:17:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  Just support your boy in D Street.

• 1:17:22Laci Mosley?

  Come on, yes.

• 1:17:24Speaker 04

  Find me underscore AJ Gibson, because some woman in North Dakota still has AJ Gibson. Her name is Angela. She won't sell it to me. So underscore AJ Gibson on social media. Also, Confess Your Mess with this guy, my fiance. I've been trying to buy it, buy her Instagram handle for years and she only posts pictures of her daughter and her ballet tutus and won't sell it to me. I don't know why. Confess Your Mess Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. Also, I'm the host of a radio show, a national radio show called The Morning Beat on Channel Q Radio, the first LGBTQ plus talk radio station in the country. Wendy Williams always. And then my book, Flipping the Script on Amazon. That's a lot of plugs, damn.

• 1:18:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:01Laci Mosley?

  And I love it. I love it. He was like, get all the things, go to all the places.

• 1:18:06Speaker 04

  But also mostly, just go listen to our pod.

• 1:18:10Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's so good. If you want more mess like this.

• 1:18:13Speaker 04

  Start with Lacey's episode. Start with Lacey's episode.

• 1:18:17Speaker 03

  Kicked it off.

• 1:18:19Laci Mosley?

  Uh-uh. I be telling all my business on other people's podcasts.

• 1:18:22Speaker 03

  So good.

• 1:18:25Laci Mosley?

  All right, guys, as always, if you want to follow the podcast and see the photos that we referenced today on the Instagram, that's scamgoddispod on all platforms, Twitter, Instagram. If you want to follow me, it's D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy on all platforms, except for TikTok, where I cannot get my name to. There is a child with it. Do not harass that child. I'm Laci Mosley on TikTok. If you just want to look at mess, because that's really all I put on TikTok. And guys, if you want to switch on your friends and family, just make sure the scam is retired. [email protected]. Congregation, that merch is still up and popping. Get into it. I'm about to switch it up. I'm about to take some things down. So, you know, get what you want now. Congregation, stay Schemin.

• 1:19:08Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scamgoddess stars and is hosted by me, Laci Mosley, AKA Scamgoddess. It's produced by Judith Cargvo, engineered by Marina Faiz, and researched by Kaelyn Brandt. Stay Schemin.

• 1:19:25Speaker 06

  This has been a Team Coco production in association with Earwolf.

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