AI Agents Will Change the Way We Shop and How Brands Must Adapt | Artificial Intelligence | Naveen Tewari | Presented by Glance

AI is changing how consumers discover and buy products, and Naveen Tewari believes traditional e-commerce is entering a new era. Years after betting early on the mobile internet and building InMobi, he launched Glance, an agentic commerce platform designed to help consumers shop with AI. Despite early resistance, he turned Glance into a standalone company, raised close to $1 billion, and became a two-time unicorn founder. In this episode, Naveen shares how AI agents will reshape buying decisions for consumers, how brands will need to adapt, and how entrepreneurs can position themselves early for this shift into the agentic commerce era. In this episode, Hala and Naveen will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (00:00) Building Two Unicorn Companies (03:23) Pivoting to AI and Agentic Commerce (08:15) Naveen’s Leadership Principles and Mindset (18:56) The Haircut vs. Tattoo Decision-Making Model (22:40) How Agentic Commerce Changes Shopping (32:56) Integrating Glance With Siri and Brands (36:29) Marketing to AI Agents (38:21) How AI Agents Will Change Branding (42:27) Privacy and Trust in AI (43:36) Choosing the Right Strategic Investor (44:55) Founder Principles: Trust, Passion, and Growth Naveen Tewari is the founder and CEO of InMobi and Glance. He founded InMobi in 2007, which became India's first unicorn in 2011, and later built Glance, making him the first Indian entrepreneur to create two unicorns. Today, he leads both companies, with InMobi operating in digital advertising and Glance developing agentic commerce technology. Naveen is an alumnus of the Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur and Harvard Business School. Sponsored By: Glance: An agentic commerce platform designed to help consumers shop with AI. Visit glance.com/row to get started. Resources Mentioned: Naveen’s Platform, Glance: glance.com/row Naveen’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/naveentewari Naveen’s Instagram: instagram.com/ntewari14 Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap YouTube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting Newsletter - youngandprofiting.co/newsletter LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala Social + Podcast Services: yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new LinkedIn Creator Club - Skool.com/linkedin-creator-club Disclaimer: This episode is a paid partnership with Glance. Sponsored content helps support our podcast and continue bringing valuable insights to our audience. Entrepreneurship, Entrepreneurship Podcast, Business, Business Podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal Development, Starting a Business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side Hustle, Startup, Mental Health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth Mindset, ChatGPT, AI Marketing, Prompt, AI in Action, AI in Business, Generative AI, AI for Entrepreneurs, Future of Work, AI Podcast

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• 0:00Hala Taha?

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• 0:45Hala Taha?

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• 0:50Speaker 01

  Because there is such a big change in the world on technology, you know, you had this massive shift of AI coming in, everything in the world is going to change. Our belief is that e-commerce will now be replaced with agentic commerce.

• 1:04Hala Taha?

  Naveen is a technology pioneer who believes AI is about to reshape how consumers discover products, make decisions, and interact with brands. Today, he's helping define an emerging category called agentic commerce.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  They kind of analyze your face, analyze your hair, analyze your body structure, and then basically go search the products that are trending out there, and then search for the products that fit best for you.

• 1:27Hala Taha?

  Couldn't there be some incentives that might be unaligned in terms of the brands, like, working with the agents and being like, hey, like, I'll give you 10% commission if you push my product?

• 1:39Speaker 01

  Those are things that are going to happen in the world. No business can run, no technology, no platform can run if it doesn't make money. But the very important criteria here is-

• 1:48Hala Taha?

  How is the internet and shopping going to change when people need to market to agents?

• 1:54Speaker 01

  That's a whole new phenomenon because agents will be supporting humans in their buying process. Just like many years ago, everybody had to do search engine optimization. Every brand and every retailer has to do agent engine optimization. The more you train the agent, the better it is for the brand because-

• 2:11Hala Taha?

  What's up, young and profiteers? In this episode, we're exploring the next major evolution of the internet and consumer technology. Joining us is Naveen Tewari, founder and CEO of Inmobi and Glance, two unicorn companies built in India for the world. Naveen's latest company is Glance AI, which is an AI-native platform exploring a new way for consumers to discover and engage with products through agentic commerce. In today's conversation, Naveen shares how he stays ahead of disruption, what he's learned from building through failure, and how entrepreneurs can prepare for the next era of AI and commerce. Naveen, welcome to Young and Profiting Podcast.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  I'm so excited to be here, Hala.

• 2:55Hala Taha?

  I am so happy that you're here. I feel like we're going to learn so much from you. I love talking about AI. I feel like all the things you're doing with AI is just so interesting. So we're going to dig into that. But before we do that, I really want to understand your journey as a founder. You actually have two unicorn companies. You were one of the first unicorns coming out of India. And you basically build companies for the world from India, which is just so cool and unique. And you started with Inmobi. That was your first unicorn. I want the listeners to understand, like, what does Inmobi do? And I really want to hear the story about how you pivoted when you first started. Because when you first started, you were focused on SMS.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:36Hala Taha?

  You saw the future of mobile.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  You did a lot of research.

• 3:38Hala Taha?

  I did lots of research. Tell me about it.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Well, you know, when we started, the mobile internet was just taking off. So we weren't sure whether to bet on it or not. Like, this is like 2007, 2008, iPhone had just come out. And, you know, we were trying to place the bet on mobile internet, would it take off or not take off? Very soon to realize, wait a minute, there is a huge thing coming our way, and that's mobile internet. And so, as with any economy, if you want a medium to reach everybody in the world, if you want the medium to be, you know, popular with the whole population, then you need something to make it free. And that's where advertising platforms come in.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  And so therefore, we decided that, hey, let's support building and supporting the mobile ecosystem. And we built Inmobi as one of the earliest players in the world on mobile advertising. And we are one of the largest players today across the world. And, you know, you're right, we build our companies from India to the world.

• 4:45Hala Taha?

  Yep.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  We like to use the expertise that is based out of the country. But we believe that, you know, technology has no boundaries and therefore they should be all pervasive. And, you know, so today, you know, US is our largest market.

• 5:02Hala Taha?

  Oh, wow.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  We did not really know, by the way, Hala, that, you know, we would become a unicorn. We didn't really know what it meant, to be honest. It happened too quickly. And when it happened, we clearly did not know that we are the first unicorn.

• 5:16Hala Taha?

  Oh, really? You didn't know?

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Yes, we did not know. Like, when you start, like, you're like, okay, let it be a little, you know, we'll do well. That's it, right? Who, like, you're just trying to survive.

• 5:26Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  You're not really trying to figure out, oh, I have this big massive vision. And, you know, you're just trying to survive and, you know, do a few things. And they happen, you know, they go well and then say, hey, wait a minute, let me do a little bit more. Let me do a little bit more. And so, you know, you kind of expand the, let me say, the audacity of what you can dream of-

• 5:46Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  -with time. And that's pretty much what happened. And soon enough, you know-

• 5:50Hala Taha?

  And now you're expanding into AI from the mobile internet, which is like the next big shift. And so just to be clear, you basically subsidize the mobile internet with advertising. And you are a layer and you work with other companies that distribute it for you. And I love that part of your model, that like you actually, you're not in the business of distribution. You are the layer. Talk to us about why you did it that way.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Well, so on the advertising side, what we do is we partner with developers first. And we go to the developers and say, hey, do you want to, like, create a great application? And as Inmobi will support it as a layer to, you know, for so that you can, you know, you can make money out of it. And, you know, you can support it and you can create better, better products for consumers. And so that's what Inmobi does. Now, when we moved to AI, as Inmobi, we thought about the world to say, hey, wait a minute, there's this whole massive world of AI kicking in. And, you know, advertising still has to support this world of AI.

• 6:55Hala Taha?

  Yeah. And now your business model has changed a bit because before you were business to business. And now you're catering to consumers. So what are the things that you're thinking about now that you are catering to consumers with Glance?

• 7:07Speaker 01

  So now, as we did this, we also thought about, you're right, we also thought about, hey, wait a minute, because there is such a big change in the world on technology, like, you know, you had this massive shift of AI coming in. So we said, look, we have a very good understanding of, you know, what could change.

• 7:27Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  And we kind of looked very deeply and we thought, you know, the way people shop should change. And so we went very deep into reimagining the world of shopping. And we created a new platform called Glance. And that's doing phenomenally well because it's a personal shopper. And so we launched a personal shopper. Our belief is that e-commerce-

• 7:57Hala Taha?

  Yep.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  -which has been phenomenal over the last 25 years or so, will now be replaced with agentic commerce.

• 8:03Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  Where an agent on behalf of you, Hala, would actually assist you in shopping.

• 8:09Hala Taha?

  So help me understand, how big is Glance? Like, Glance is something that everybody can go download on their phones right now, right?

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Yes. So we launched about a year ago. We have had massive success in the United States. Roughly today, roughly about 10 million users use Glance and are using it for shopping. They're using it for, like, making very intelligent decisions. They're using it for discovering great products. We've just been amazed by the usage of it in across the US. We almost have people do about 120, like, call them prompts or call them searches every month on the platform. So it's just been mind-blowing.

• 8:50Hala Taha?

  And people actually purchasing, right? I think I read, like, 15% of those users actually go and purchase something, which is so cool, that intent.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 8:57Hala Taha?

  Which, what we were talking-

• 8:58Speaker 01

  And that's what we wanted to see, that like, are people going to use this to just like, know something? Or are they really going to convert that into, into buying? And so, yes, we are seeing people convert that into, into actual buying. And so that's been really exciting.

• 9:12Hala Taha?

  I want to spend the whole second half of the conversation just really understanding agentic shopping, how Glance works, how you envision the future. But first, I want to just understand-

• 9:23Speaker 01

  I'm excited about telling you that.

• 9:24Hala Taha?

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• 10:45Hala Taha?

  Yeah, bam. I've interviewed some of the world's leading health experts and those conversations have really changed how I think about my health. I stay active and I eat well, but you know what I realized? There's still so much I don't know about what's actually going on inside my body. And I've been hearing so much about body scans lately, so I finally did it. I got my whole body MRI at Prenuvo. The scan is radiation free, which I love. There's no needles and it takes just about an hour. Prenuvo evaluates major organs and systems, including your brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. And they give you a full, detailed picture of your health. I just got my results back and nothing serious, thankfully, just a little scoliosis. I'm looking forward to reviewing my results with my Prenuvo provider, where I can ask questions and better understand

• 11:29Hala Taha?

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• 12:10Hala Taha?

  Yap, bam. These days, it feels like I'm starting a new LLC every month. In fact, I recently bought a commercial property that has tenants and I wanted to keep that venture separate from Yap Media and my personal assets, which means another LLC. So of course, I turned to Northwest Registered Agent. That is my go-to for business formation and registered agent services. I can get an LLC application started online in less than 10 minutes and their filings have been super quick. Northwest also helps you build your complete business identity. They give you a business address, operating agreement, website, professional email, phone number, and built-in privacy. And when I missed a step, a real person from Northwest actually texted me to help. Starting another business should feel exciting and not like another full-time job.

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  And Northwest has a lot of free resources that you can leverage for starting your business. Don't pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for what you can get for free from Northwest. Visit northwestregisteredagent.com/yapfree and start using free resources to build something amazing. Get more with Northwest Registered Agent at northwestregisteredagent.com/yapfree. So you created Glance basically as like a project within Inmobi and then you spun it out as a company. And you are really adamant about having like a day one energy at your company. Tell us about why that's so important to you and how that kind of mentality actually led to the creation of Glance.

• 13:35Speaker 01

  You know, if you go back like 20, 30 years, companies used to get created and people would sit on those companies and they would continue for like decades. And the reason why that would happen is because the world did not really change. We are now living in a world where the pace of change is faster and faster and faster. So as companies, your time to get disrupted is far shorter. It's not going to be a few decades. It's going to be a few years. So the way we think about this is we like to believe we are a startup. Doesn't matter how large we are or not. We, startup to be is a state of mind. And in that state of mind, and some of

• 14:20Speaker 01

  the best companies on the planet, technology companies are always a startup. What does that mean? It means that we always think about the most cutting edge of technology and we always think about how can consumers gain from it? And can we go and create that for consumers and give it to them? So yes, we are a very innovative company. We are a chaotic company because we are always on the cutting edge of this like things that are happening. And so we get few things right, we get many things wrong. And that's why it's chaotic because you know, somebody could sit there and ask you questions to me as a, as a CEO and a founder to say, hey, Naveen, what's your five-year vision? I may have one, but it'll change. And

• 15:01Speaker 01

  when people hear that, some are discomforted by it because you know, people don't like chaos. Some love chaos. So we have a set of people in the company, almost think of them as like being self-selected, who love this chaos, who love to think about that, oh, there is this massive change in technology that has just changed, that has made the world a level playing field. So let's go, let's go really fast and build something phenomenal and change the lives of consumers and make it even bigger.

• 15:34Hala Taha?

  I love that mentality. And, and give us some actionable advice. How do you ensure that it's passion leading the way and not, not process?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. Oh, that is such an important thing because I think companies, especially in today's world, if they are processed first, poof, I tell you, they're, they're gone. Now, it's easier said than done because you know, the world has, all the books teach you to like have a very solid process to everything. I think it has to be led by the founder, by the senior people in the company to enable a thinking of like, hey, what can you do different? What can you change? Can you be disruptive in this? Like, why should this be done this way? Why are you telling me what you're telling me that has been done before? And what that

• 16:27Speaker 01

  entails is an ability to fail. So at our company, we don't reprimand anybody for failure. You know, nobody gets crucified for failure at all. Yeah, we love people who succeed, but that requires people to continuously fail.

• 16:44Hala Taha?

  One more founder principle that I want to cover before we go into agentic shopping. And we were just kind of talking about it, which is your decision-making. I read something, I'm not sure if you made it up or not, but I thought it was really helpful, where basically you look at decision-making as you've got haircut decisions and you've got tattoo decisions. And I love that because I'm making decisions, all of us are making decisions all the time. And it's such a great framework. Tell us about that.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  So I stole that from somebody's, I heard it somewhere. I really loved it myself, but now I have completely.

• 17:17Hala Taha?

  Absorbed it. Yeah.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Absolutely. And so I think we all fret too much about the decisions we make. Every small decision and you know, you're making decisions and everybody's making decisions. And so one of the things you realize that if you want to move really fast, and one of the things I realized that we were not doing really well a few years ago, was we were not making fast decisions. You know, we would get into a long debate and a lot of conversations and you know, people would not make decisions because.

• 17:45Hala Taha?

  You were turning corporate.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Can you imagine? Oh, my God. Oh, God, yes, you're right. And it was just like, it was painful to see, because for every decision, if there is data to back a decision, that's not called a decision. That's just like obvious. But the decision is when you, when there is no clear answer. When there is no clear answer, for any path you take, there will be pros and cons. And you know, we had really smart people who would tell me the pros and cons for everything, but they would never make decisions. We changed. We changed. We realized that there is no decision that's really hard. We don't make as many decisions that are, most of my decisions that everybody was fretting on was a haircut decision. And you know, I can live with a bad haircut.

• 18:28Hala Taha?

  Your hair goes back, right?

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Exactly. I think I live with a bad haircut anyway, but nonetheless, you know, and then there are a few which are like the tattoos. Few decisions that are very hard, they're not reversible, those are the ones you can deliberate a little bit longer on. So today I have a thesis at the company that no decision should take more than five minutes. And I know, I say that figuratively, but it should be like, make rapid decisions, be wrong, but move, move, move. Very rarely, on very few decisions, we take a pause. And that's really helped the company move really fast, right? So you know, we would have somebody come to me and say, oh, you made this decision three months ago and it's wrong. So, okay, what's

• 19:14Speaker 01

  the new decision? Like this. Okay, let's go. Because all we did, we probably lost like, you know, a couple of months here and there, but we are now on the right path, but we are always moving. And you know, we're not as bad in like, people don't get bad haircuts all the time. You get it a few times, right? So therefore, this thing is only happening a few times, but imagine 99% of my decisions are being made like in five minutes, typically that day. And so we move really fast. And therefore, I love that thesis of like, and I have made sure that everybody in my leadership walks in, I, by the way, I, you know, if you want a decision-making meeting with me, I have a sofa set outside of conference room.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  I do that there. So that we just like sit there for five minutes and you know, say bye to each other. Because the decision, if you want me to make a decision, I'll make that in five minutes.

• 20:04Hala Taha?

  So cool. I love that. I'm going to use that in my business. Like, is this a haircut or is this a tattoo? And try to be quicker about it.

• 20:11Speaker 01

  I tell you, it works. It simplifies life. And nobody is like too bothered.

• 20:17Hala Taha?

  So we've got commerce, e-commerce, and now we have agentic commerce.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  That's the future.

• 20:25Hala Taha?

  Yeah. And really, my first question about this is, is how, like, talk to us about the difference between predictability and discoverability versus intent and how AI, agentic shopping is going to actually transform the way that we shop into intent rather than just like discoverability.

• 20:46Hala Taha?

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• 21:29Hala Taha?

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• 22:10Hala Taha?

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• 23:23Hala Taha?

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• 24:05Hala Taha?

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• 24:26Speaker 01

  So think of it this way. Let me define how I think about agentic, how I imagine the future. Okay? Today, the way we make decisions is we, we do discovery ourselves. We kind of go online, search various different places. We, we read different content. We go, you know, we, we look at the influencers and the creators we like and we kind of like sift through a lot of this information. And then we say, okay, here is what I think I want. Then we kind of sit on that decision because we're not really sure when we kind of like, oh my God. Then when we make that decision, we go like to figure out where can I save some money on it? Can I get some discounts? Can I get this and that? And all of these three steps takes a lot of time for people.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  So we believe that AI should give a lot of time back to people and AI should save people a lot of money and AI should ensure that, you know, people buy better. Okay. So the way this works now is everybody should have their own agent, right? And assist, a personal assistant who can assist you in shopping. So the way it works is the first part of this is, hey, let me, if you want something, tell me about it. Tell the agent about it and your personal shopper about it and the shopper goes out and, you know, explores all the different brands that it can understand. It knows, like you and I probably know a hundred brands. You know, 200, I know

• 25:51Speaker 01

  100 and whatever, something like that. Some fees, fees will be small number. The agent actually knows like hundreds and thousands of brands. So then when you say, hey, I'm looking for this, it goes and searches through all of those different, discovers the products from all of those different brands, pulls out the right one for you. And the way it does that is because the, the agent and the, the personal shopper actually knows you a lot. Because, you know, you kind of talk about why you want something, what is the occasion? So you'll say, hey, I'm gonna go to Greece for my vacation and I'm looking to buy some stuff for it. And now it knows, oh, oh, I'm gonna go there in June and therefore, you know, and kind of looks at, oh,

• 26:36Speaker 01

  you're gonna go to Greece, so you must be looking for these kind of things. Oh, you're going June, so it's clearly very hot out there and, you know, and these are the things you want to do. So therefore it, it knows the context in which you're asking that question and therefore knows who you are, how you look, you know, what you'd really like to do in the, you know, what, what kind of, you know, stuff you like to buy. So it makes a great decision for you and then selects few products for you. And when it selects few products, it basically then puts them on you so that you can visualize them then and there. So this process just takes like few seconds now. Now, when you've seen few products and you kind of say, oh, I like this, then it runs around and

• 27:16Speaker 01

  goes and finds out how can it get you that product in the least possible, uh, it gives you the most amount of saving. So then it goes out and says, oh, you have these credit cards, you have these loyalty programs, let me go save you a lot of money. So in this process, you, you discovered all these small little brands that you may not have heard of, but they're best for you. They, it, it presents the product in you in a way that you have a choice that you can make with a lot of certainty. It tells you why it looks good on you. And then it says, buy it from this retailer or this place and use this credit card and whatnot so that you save money. And all of this thing is done like seconds.

• 27:57Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  And therefore, as you keep on going and as you keep on, you know, shopping, using your personal agent and personal shopper, it learns.

• 28:08Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  It continuously learns. And therefore, you know, it can tell you, oh, you know, this favorite brand of yours, let's say Alison Olivia, it just dropped a latest line of products. You might not even remember that it just dropped its latest line of products. And it'll say, hey, do you want to just see three of those products that they dropped that I think are best for you? Out of the many that they've dropped and they show it to you then and there. So a lot of these are ways in which the agent, agentic shopping will come in because, you know, my view is we are fundamentally adding intelligence into the way people shop and that should change the way the world, the world shops.

• 28:46Hala Taha?

  Yeah. And it's gonna happen so quickly. And, and when I was learning about it, the key difference that I see with it is, is the context, right? So before, when we'd go shopping, I might go on to either like a marketplace like Revolve or Google and I'll just be like, I need black shoes, 5.5 size or whatever. But with Glance platform, you guys actually have like five different agents that are working and like you're, you're saying like what location is she is? What's the weather like? Is it raining? Is it not raining? What is, what are people wearing locally? Which is like so interesting. And then you're also even looking at like digital

• 29:25Hala Taha?

  body behavior, like body language. Tell us about digital body language. I think that's so interesting.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  Think of it this way, right? So every, every one of us, when we think about, you know, shopping and think, buying products, we like to see, you know, there are different agents, as you rightly said, you know, they kind of analyze your face, analyze your hair, analyze your body structure. And then basically go search the products that are trending out there and then search for the products that fit best for you. And, you know, there is enough and more data in the last 25 years of, of let's call it fashion, that it tells you what would look good on a certain body structure.

• 30:07Hala Taha?

  Whether you're petite or wide or whatever. Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  And by the way, it's not always true that you would like exactly what the world has liked. So then it tries to tweak it around by learning from you. And if you say, hey, no, no, no, I like this, even though. The world and it learns that quickly. So in that example that you just gave me, you said, hey, five point five, your shoe size. It'll know that now. You don't have to repeat that ever again.

• 30:31Hala Taha?

  And it will say like, okay, this one runs small, this one runs big.

• 30:34Speaker 01

  Exactly. And it'll also say, hey, wait a minute, I know you bought this shoe like seven months ago. Do you really wanna buy this one? Instead, you should buy this because then you have like two different choices. And it can do so many things for you that you, it's like you're literally talking to it all the time.

• 30:50Hala Taha?

  Yeah. And it's like any other algorithm, basically, like, let's say I see a dress from Alice and Olivia. We were just talking about this brand. And I'm always spending more time looking at that dress. It's gonna account for, okay, well, Hala spends more time or swipes really fast. So we're not gonna show her that, which I just think is so cool. And, and shopping is just going to evolve in that way where it's just gonna study your little behaviors to know what is your taste so that you actually get something you like.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  What it could also do is to say, oh, you really like Alice and Olivia? Let me tell you five other brands that you've never heard of. Based off New Zealand, based off Spain, based off Germany, that create very similar products. So suddenly it expands your discovery horizon and shows you products from other brands that of similar quality that you may like to consider. And you could say yes or no to that and it'll take that input and then kind of figure things out. But it takes what you're really trying to do and, and, and help you.

• 31:48Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  Just like a personal shopper would. And it's always listening to you and it's, you buy better products. You select them so that you don't have to return them. And you pay less.

• 31:59Hala Taha?

  Yeah. Now, do you feel like shopping is always gonna happen on the screen? How do you think that's going to evolve? Like, do you think that we're always gonna be on mobile? We're always gonna be on our computer? Or how do you think that shopping will be like integrated into our daily life outside of the screen?

• 32:15Speaker 01

  It's a great question. The way we think about this is you can use your personal shopper when you have an intent. But what if I placed your personal shopper wherever you go? Okay, so for example, in the digital world, let's say you, uh, in the screen world, let's say you're watching, you're watching a TV show. Let's say you're watching Emily in Paris. And let's say, you know, in a certain scene, you really liked the products that appear in the scene. Today, you can't do anything about it. Tomorrow, you could actually activate your agent, which is already placed on the TV, to say, hey, in the last 10 seconds, that's, that's the, you know, the, the scene, I really love it. Can I go buy it?

• 32:59Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  And it'll tell you, extract the products out of that scene, you know, show them how they would look on you and then go find which retailer you can go buy that product from. So that's just a point where the inspiration didn't happen on your mobile phone or tablet, but happened on TV. And that's a great example on how the personal shopper that we've built, which is Glance, actually goes sits on different screens where if they belong to you, you can activate them there and it's all interconnected with each other.

• 33:29Hala Taha?

  And so you can download Glance on your phone, you can use it on your smart TV. And now you can basically ask Siri if you want help with shopping. Tell us about your new Apple integration.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, we're very excited about that. Glance was recently featured a couple of days ago in the biggest tech event of Apple. As one of the few apps that have actually integrated very deeply with Siri. So therefore, on your iPhone, latest iPhone, what you could do is just like use Siri to activate Glance and then use Siri to essentially buy directly using Siri. And that's just like, think about all the places and different ways in which the whole ecosystem is coming together. Essentially leverage the intelligence of Glance and the intelligence of Apple to make sure that your, your buying process is smarter, better and faster.

• 34:30Hala Taha?

  Yeah, fam, I've interviewed some of the world's leading health experts and those conversations have really changed how I think about my health. I stay active and I eat well, but you know what I realized? There's still so much I don't know about what's actually going on inside my body. And I've been hearing so much about body scans lately, so I finally did it. I got my whole body MRI at Prenuvo. The scan is radiation free, which I love. There's no needles and it takes just about an hour. Prenuvo evaluates major organs and systems, including your brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis and more. And they give you a full detailed picture of your health. I just got my results back and nothing serious, thankfully, just a little scoliosis. I'm looking forward to reviewing my results with my Prenuvo provider,

• 35:12Hala Taha?

  where I can ask questions and better understand all my results and what's going on in my body. So I'm really curious about that and I'll keep you guys posted. To learn more about Prenuvo and get $300 off your whole body MRI, go to prenuvo.com/hala and use code HALA. That's P R N U V O dot com slash HALA, H A L A. Terms and conditions apply. Receive $300 off Prenuvo whole body scans and executive and comprehensive memberships through January 31st. For full details, visit Prenuvo's website to read their terms and conditions and privacy notice. Prenuvo gifted me a whole body scan. A Prenuvo scan is a screening service, not diagnostic. Diagnosis and treatment are determined by your healthcare provider.

• 35:55Hala Taha?

  Yeah, fam, I have an expensive confession. I need an outfit for practically every interview. And I love designer clothes, so you can imagine what that does to my budget. And after talking to Haley Sachs, who's a financial expert, I was unfortunately reminded that I can't just assume that every outfit is a business expense. You guys know that I love hosting live streams and webinars and I love selling. So I'm planning on opening up a pre-owned designer shop on Whatnot. Whatnot is a live shopping app where you can show off products, interact with buyers in real time and turn shopping into a fun, interactive experience. And you absolutely do not need designer clothes to get started. People sell everything from sneakers and beauty products to sports cards, Pokemon cards and collectibles. All you need are your products and your phone. Whatnot handles payments and provides shipping labels.

• 36:40Hala Taha?

  So I recommend you take a shopping trip through a few live shows, see how it works and maybe you'll be inspired to start selling too. Search Whatnot, W H A T N O T in the App Store. Download and start selling right away. So I'm wearing Alice and Olivia and I knew you actually just had an event with them at Fashion Week. So talk to me, like, if I saw this dress on somebody else at a party, how would I buy that dress?

• 37:04Speaker 01

  So yes, we did a big partnership with Alice and Olivia. They are now an agentic brand and probably one of the first, and it's an amazing brand, by the way, one of the first brands that actually has gone agentic. So therefore, what happens is if you were to see, let's say, a latest, if you see somebody else wearing Alice and Olivia, or if you just, uh, you know, if you're interested in Alice and Olivia, their latest products are, our model is trained on it. Which means that if you show your interest in Alice and Olivia, either because you saw it somewhere or you're just keen, you would actually be able to see yourself in Alice and Olivia's latest product. And then you can, you know, just like your, your, you know, as I can see right now,

• 37:49Speaker 01

  you can see the same, same image get generated and then you can just buy it from there.

• 37:54Hala Taha?

  So basically, like, if I'm online and I'm on Alice and Olivia, I can see myself as the model in all the dresses? And if I am at the store, could I use my Glance app and then see myself in all the dresses? I'm so cool.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  Absolutely. All of those things you could do because you could go to the store, you could use the app and you can basically see, oh, this is how I would look in the same dress that you're looking at right now. And so your buying process is far better. Wherever you're going to go, Hala, it is gonna support you in your, in your buying decision. And that's the, that's how we built it. So for example, I'll give you one more example.

• 38:28Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  So let's say you go, give me one of your favorite brands.

• 38:33Hala Taha?

  Love and Lemons.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Oh, Love and Lemons, right? Let's say you go on the website. So today, when you go on the website, you see a bunch of products. Tomorrow, if they were to integrate Glance in it and make themselves agentic, when you go there, the website would look very different because the website would actually have all the products, few of the products that the, your personal shopper believes is right for you shown up front. And they would show those products on you.

• 39:05Hala Taha?

  So cool. So you're the model now on the website.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  You're the model, exactly. And now you can see those products on you. So therefore, you, you know, the, the website goes from being personalized to being personal. The website goes from being non-agentic to being agentic. And that's the power of this.

• 39:23Hala Taha?

  So we still might have the visual layer for humans because we enjoy shopping.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 39:27Hala Taha?

  We enjoy looking at ourselves. But how is the internet and shopping going to change when people need to market to agents?

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's a, that's a whole new phenomenon. First, everybody has to believe that agents would be part of this new, you know, we've been marketing to humans. You have to market to agents, right? Because agents would be supporting humans in their buying process. I am not of the belief that agents would take over the buying. Agents would support humans and assist humans in their buying, just like our personal shopper does. And so therefore, as you think about this example that you just, this, just referred to, the marketers, the CMOs basically have to make sure that whatever their brand is can be understood by the agents.

• 40:14Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  So just like many years ago, everybody had to do search engine optimization. Every brand and every retailer has to do agent engine optimization. So that agents are well-trained.

• 40:27Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  On what is part of their. Inventory, what is part of their store, what the brand stands for. How would they want their products of their brands to be showcased by AI?

• 40:39Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  By the agent, right? Because it's very important. Every brand has a very deep ethos on what they stand for. And you know, they should actually, the more you train the agent, the better it is for the brand. Because agent is not doing anything else, except for assisting the user in making a better decision. And so the more you train the agent and you you partner with the agent, it'll actually help them.

• 41:01Hala Taha?

  Couldn't there be some uh incentives that might be unaligned in terms of the brands? Like working with the agents and being like, hey, like, I'll give you 10% commission if you push my product. How do you see that playing out?

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Oh, absolutely. Look, those are things that are gonna happen in the world. But the reality is, at that point of time, humans will not trust that agent. And so therefore, it happens in the digital world too, and then you stop trusting that those advice. So therefore, for example, at glance, we are very clear that it only works for the user. It has to support the user. And if there is an economic incentive, we will be transparent with the user. To say, hey, this decision, if you were to make, I have an economic incentive. Please make your decision, knowing that I have I have an economic incentive here. But because I think humans know and people know that, look, no business can run, no technology, no platform can run.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  If it doesn't make money. So as long as you're transparent about the fact that, look, I have an economic incentive here. People will take that into account and assist and make the decision. But the very important criteria here is, don't ever make a decision that is not for the user.

• 42:15Hala Taha?

  Yeah. And how do you think branding will change? Do you feel like it will be like a really big moat if like you've already built a brand with like lots of reviews? And or do you actually feel like it's gonna be better for the smaller new brands?

• 42:30Speaker 01

  Good question. I think uh, let's talk about the smaller one first. The smaller brands have a new, have an advantage that they could actually be agent-first, agent-first branch. Okay, so they, what they could do is they, because they have no history, they have no, they could like jump on this new era of agents supporting humans and be really cutting edge on that.

• 42:55Hala Taha?

  Yeah, like ranking at the top of Google when SEO first came out, something like that.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Exactly, right. So what they they should do is to really help train the agents as much as they can. And that would, because agents care only about one metric. At least Glance agent cares only about one thing. Am I making the right decision? Am I supporting Hala in making the right decision? And if that's the case, then that's what the agent would do. And so therefore, if the brands are well-trained, then that's great for the agent. So that's why the small brands, again, the other thing is because the agent does not really care about like like, is your brand a big brand or a small brand? If it's gonna suggest to your product, it could go on brands which are lesser known. But the right, better product for you to pull them up for you.

• 43:40Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  Uh, and that's why it's great for you. Uh, so therefore, small brands must like, you know, kind of.

• 43:46Hala Taha?

  Yeah, if they figure out how to like hack the agents kind of and make sure that their stuff gets listed. Or if they just have like a really premium product.

• 43:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 43:56Hala Taha?

  That surfaces or something unique, it could be an advantage.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, and and it's kind of a little hard to hack the agent because the whole concept is intelligence. So agents would, are smart enough to know that you're trying to hack it. What every brand should do is to like train enough. So that's one. The second is, the bigger brands, they already have an advantage because they have more more content and more reviews. And you know, so so agents would know this anyway.

• 44:22Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  And so what the bigger brand should do is to kind of leverage their position and ensure that they jump on the bandwagon of, you know, working with the agents and and and marketing to the agents along with the consumer. Because remember, at the end of the day, it is a human-assisted uh, you know, uh, workflow. It's not just that the agent is gonna go by on their own. They're gonna showcase something to the user, and the user is gonna make the final decision. So therefore, you now have to market to both the agent and the humans.

• 44:56Hala Taha?

  So fascinating. How do you think about privacy with all of this? If, you know, AI is kind of capturing even like how long we're looking at something.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:08Hala Taha?

  How do you think about privacy since you're collecting so much data from people?

• 45:11Speaker 01

  And look, the privacy is like at the core of what every agentic solution is all about, right? So the idea that uh, the agentic platforms would function on and keeping your data just to itself is very important because the model that is getting trained in the moment is just on you. And and you know, it will do what you needed to do. So therefore, privacy is the core of it. As long as you can trust the agent to say it's not gonna, you know, release my data elsewhere, it should be fine. And you know, most high-quality agents would be very, very careful about what they're, how they're treating privacy. Because again, trust is very, very central to all of this.

• 45:54Hala Taha?

  Yeah. Well, it's so exciting to see uh, agentic commerce, ambient commerce. Uh, and I'm excited to see how Glance really transforms this whole industry. You guys are obviously the leaders. Now, you guys actually just got a a strategic investor, Alcaterin, is that how you?

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Alcaterin, yeah.

• 46:11Hala Taha?

  Yeah, tell us about that. How did you decide that they were the right partner for you?

• 46:15Speaker 01

  They have built some of the most iconic brands in the world and are part of the process of building these brands for so many years. So uh, we partnered with them because, you know, we've been raising capital from a lot of uh, tech investors. We're excited about raising capital from uh, a consumer investor. Because at the end of the day, what we're building is at the intersection of consumer retail and technology. And we felt that they bring in a unique insight into how brands think and how, you know, what is the future of of commerce. And we had a huge alignment in the way both parties think about the future of where the shopping is headed.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  And they are, they are betting massively on agentic commerce as being the future. And we kind of just felt at home with them. And so therefore, yeah, we were excited with the partnership.

• 47:09Hala Taha?

  Yeah. Well, I know that we don't have that much time left, but I I wanna leave our listeners with one more founder principle since we have some time.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Go for it.

• 47:17Hala Taha?

  So I know that trust is really big for you.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:19Hala Taha?

  Help us understand why trust is so important to you and how trust compounds to help scale your business.

• 47:25Speaker 01

  It's a, it's such an important topic and you know, I can speak for hours on this because it's like at the core of how we've tried to build the company. I am a trust-first person, like, you know, if I meet somebody, if somebody's in my team, I trust them a lot. Because I I genuinely believe that, you know, every, every person has an interest in making something great with their life. Um, and they are very capable and they wanna do something big. And you know, if you're, and then if they see that I'm trusting them, they give it back.

• 48:00Hala Taha?

  Yeah.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  And therefore, what happens when trust compounds and, you know, they make bigger and bolder decisions. They take more risk. They tell you when things go wrong because they can trust you. They give you uh, all the confidence because they know you have, you know, we have their back, I have their back. And that compounding is one of the things why we feel at the company, we continue to scale. One of the outcomes of this is, you know, we started, as I said, 2007, 2008, uh, almost 18 years. And one of the things we we see is a lot of our people have stayed with us.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  Because they love this uh, relationship that we have with each other, which is very deeply rooted in trust. And so therefore, it gives us not just me, but the whole set of company ability to make big decisions and bold decisions.

• 48:57Hala Taha?

  It's like you've got really strong security.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  Yes. And therefore, what you realize is you're asking people to make big, bold decisions. They're not gonna make it because bold decisions don't come from here, they come from the heart. And the only way they'll feel confident about is when they feel that they are, they have safety. They have psychological safety. They know that they will not be let down. And so therefore. That's been one of the biggest, you know, blessings of what I have around my team and I couldn't have asked for something more like I trust them blindly.

• 49:38Hala Taha?

  And you're loyal. I mean, you kept all your co-founders and even after becoming unicorn and it's amazing. Well, I end my show with two questions that I ask all of my guests. This has been an incredible conversation. The first one is, what is one actionable thing our young improffeters can do today to become more profitable tomorrow?

• 49:55Speaker 01

  If you think about the, this is relatively easy, but if you think about technology today, you have such amazing like technologies available to us that we like, we got to just think very differently about the world. If you are thinking incrementally about the world, you're actually creating a company that will not exist more than few years later. And so therefore you have to think disruptively about the company. And my view is that companies in the next few years that will get created will not be small or midsize. They'll be really large. It is impossible. It's like if you get the technology like, or you'll shut down, right?

• 50:37Speaker 01

  So you actually the next few years is all about creating really large companies, which basically means that you've created something that's just changing some aspect of the world, impacting users in a very, very significant way. So therefore, I know it's not the exact answer to the question you're asking, but, but it, to me, this whole technology bend, this new trend of AI, you just have to go crazy and you just like cannot like hold yourself back.

• 51:05Hala Taha?

  So like think bigger.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  Go for it.

• 51:08Hala Taha?

  Step back and figure out like, how am I going to get disrupted and what can I do to solve big problems?

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Yes. And, and you're going to just see the adoption and you're going to see the scale really quickly.

• 51:20Hala Taha?

  And what would you say your secret to profiting in life is?

• 51:24Speaker 01

  I am all about living my life with very high level of passion. I think of it as, you know, one life and I feel very blessed. And I think about it as saying, like, I love what I do. I love being an entrepreneur. I love creating, you know, innovating and creating technologies. And I feel that there is just one life and you have to live it very passionately. And if you live your life very passionately, you'll see success, you'll see failures, but you'll be happy. And, you know, we've gone through our ups and downs and ups and downs and there is no dearth of it.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  But I've enjoyed every bit of it and I would not trade it for anything. And I love the fact that, you know,

• 52:14Speaker 01

  my passion is something I can also follow and, and continue to work on it. And so therefore, I just feel blessed to be able to do what I passionately love and also see success in it because the reality is if you see success in your passion, you do more of it. So that's the compounding of mine and I'm just obsessed with being passionate and just doing what we're doing.

• 52:43Hala Taha?

  I love it. Well, Naveen, this has been an incredible conversation. Thank you for joining us on Young and Profiting Podcast.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Thank you all. Thank you for inviting me.

• 52:51Hala Taha?

  Yeah, fam. I really learned a lot from Naveen today. Most people react to major technology shifts once the market has already started to change. But Naveen thinks differently. He tries to understand where human behavior and technology are heading early enough to build for what's coming next. You can see that clearly in Glance AI and how he thinks about agentic commerce. For the last 25 years, e-commerce has really put most of the work on us when it comes to shopping. We search marketplaces, compare products and prices. We're second guessing our choices and we're making a lot of returns. Naveen believes that AI agents could take much more of that work off our plate by understanding intent, preferences and context, and therein helping us make better buying decisions.

• 53:37Hala Taha?

  And for business owners, that could change everything we know about marketing. We spent years learning search engine optimization or SEO. Now Naveen believes brands may also need to think about agent engine optimization, making sure AI agents understand the brand's products, what they stand for, their values and who they're best suited for. But staying ahead of change is not just about seeing what's coming. You also have to move fast enough to act on it. I just loved Naveen's haircut versus tattoo framework for decision making. Most business decisions are really just haircuts. If you get it wrong, your hair grows back and you keep it moving. Tattoos are those rare decisions that are much harder to reverse and deserve deeper deliberation.

• 54:20Hala Taha?

  When you stop treating every decision like a tattoo, you give yourself and your team permission to move faster, learn and course correct. And sometimes moving fast means getting things wrong in public. That may be one of the biggest takeaways from this conversation. Innovation requires more than just big ideas. It requires the ability to keep moving through uncertainty, make decisions without perfect information and come back after failure with enough courage to try again. A huge thank you to Naveen for stopping by the studio and a special thanks to our partners at Glance AI for sponsoring today's episode. Since Naveen and I recorded this in person together, you can watch the full video conversation on YouTube or Spotify video.

• 55:04Hala Taha?

  And if this episode changed the way that you think about AI innovation or decision making, share it with an entrepreneur who needs to hear it. Make sure you subscribe to the show, drop us a five star review wherever you listen and connect with me on Instagram or TikTok at Yap with Hala or LinkedIn. Just search my name. It's Hala Taha. This is your host, Hala Taha, AKA The Podcast Princess, signing off.

• 55:31Hala Taha?

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• 56:11Hala Taha?

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