Dogs At Restaurants, Role Play & Retirement

Is Romesh really retiring at 50? Tom and Romesh clear up the recent retirement rumours before diving into your latest emails, including a debate about the over-exposure of dogs and a dramatic affair story from a listener who's questioning the future of their secret relationship. Another week, another email answered and some solid advice from the Wolf and the Owl. A Ranga Bee Production in partnership with Platform Media. Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:47 A question on dogs 02:31 Romesh addresses his retiring comment 03:29 Dog lovers continued 11:09 Do the wives listen to the pod? 11:53 An email about a secret relationship 20:20 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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  Welcome to the Wolf and Al email special. [email protected] if you want to send us anything in. This is where we listen to your questions, we look at your problems, dilemmas and we offer whatever help we can.

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  And we divulge into your lives in a way that's not creepy and...

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  I don't think I gave an interrupt signal there.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  You always do, you do this.

• 0:37Speaker 00

  And shall we crack on...

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Your voice slows ever so slightly.

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  Does it?

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  Yeah.

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  Shall we crack on with the first email, Tom?

• 0:43Speaker 01

  I would love that.

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  Would you like to read it or should I?

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  "Did Tomsky and Romsky, you're both absolute legends and I love the pod. I only discovered about it a year ago courtesy of Ed Gamble. Shout out Ed Gamble." Well, that's really sweet of Ed Gamble, isn't it?

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  He listens quite a lot, apparently.

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  Does he?

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  Yeah.

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  Oh, shout out Ed.

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  Every now and again, he texts me.

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  He, by the way, the other day really made me laugh. We were having some barbecue-based humour and he really, really, yeah.

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  Hmm, sounds like a had-to-be-there moment. Okay, anyway, carry on.

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  I'm really gutted to miss out on Ed and yours barbecue banter. Anyway, carry on.

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  I'll tell you what, Ed would be a great barbecue guest.

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  Yeah, I bet he would, yeah.

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  "But I'm very glad I did so. Still catching up on it all. I've got about a year's worth of pods to go. My point of discussion is this..." He's going to be mad in about a year when he hears this and he goes, "Fuck, I made it."

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  "My point of discussion is, I like dogs. I've always had one in the family growing up on a farm and spent a lot of time with him in order not to spend time with my parents. Make of that as you will.

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  But post-COVID, my love of dogs has dwindled. I know both of you have have owned dogs. So what do you think about dogs being present in pubs, restaurants and being near the table? I've been at restaurants' tables recently and dogs have been barking away and close to my plate of food. I feel like it impacts the experience of enjoyment of my meal out, which isn't cheap, by the way. Not to mention the hygiene questions it raises. My question is, do you think society needs to dial back on the bit where dogs have access to places where humans are eating? I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts. Love you both. You're beacons of hope and I hope you don't retire from the public eye when you're 50, Rom." I think we can all agree with that because we love Rom. We adore him. He's a beautiful human being.

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  Lots of love, the traumatised Turkey.

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  Can we talk about this 50 thing?

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  Yeah. By the way, every time he says it, I wanna, boo, stick with it, you're the best. If you see Romesh out and about, I want you to go, don't you dare, you're the best, mate. We can't live without you, boo. Stay on, I wanna see you at 55 and 60 and 65.

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  If I see you at 65, I'll be dead. But I think we all know that I'm not gonna completely disappear at 50. I was merely...

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  Well, you've been as dramatic. You know, when those people go, I'm coming off Facebook for a while.

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  Yeah, yeah, it was a bit like that. But I was talking it out, because I was seriously thinking about, you know, certain things that you won't do anymore and blah, blah, blah. So I'm just talking about it with a mate. What I didn't expect is for it to get picked up by the newspapers.

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  Yeah, I mean, it was insane. That was the biggest, yeah.

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  It wasn't the biggest, it was a very slow news day.

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  No, it was hardly, mate, the World Cup was just beginning.

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  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  It was the day after the England game. I wonder how bad the England game was.

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  Yeah, no, absolutely.

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• 4:59Speaker 00

  Anyway, let's have a chat about this dog thing. We're both dog lovers, aren't we?

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  Yes, we are, yeah. Although I've become a member of the cat league now.

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  Yes, you have.

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  Cat now. But I still very much like dogs. I love her. Is we've got a bit of a sort of dilemma in the house at the moment. Me and Grace are both very keen on getting another dog.

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  Right.

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  Catherine's quite traumatised.

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  Anti.

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  Just she's very traumatised about what happened with the last dog.

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  Yeah, and understandably so. That was, that must have been hard.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. So it's quite sad. And she's come to my house where they've always had dogs. But anyway, alas, to this person's question. Have we humidised it? I do think there's an element of when I see a dog go past in a pram that I think that that is.

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  How often is that happening?

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  There's a woman who lives near me and she's constantly walking around.

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  That's what happens when you live in affluent areas.

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  You know, dogs in handbags, dogs in prams.

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  Dogs in a rucksack, you said, on the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always think that's when they start licking the back of your head when it's sweating, must be horrible.

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  God, dogs love sweat. I tell you what else dogs love, cocoa butter.

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  Oh, please don't tell me that you've.

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  That of what? God, finish your sentence.

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  No, that you've covered yourself in cocoa butter and that the dogs lick you off.

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  No, well, sort of. I regularly cover myself in cocoa butter.

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  Do you know, this will get no press.

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  I regularly cover myself in cocoa butter.

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  By the way, is that a thing?

• 6:26Speaker 00

  What?

• 6:27Speaker 01

  The cocoa butter thing, that's good, right?

• 6:29Speaker 00

  Well, I tend to moisturise top to bottom.

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  Every day?

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  Twice a day.

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  What?

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  When I wake up in the morning before I go to bed.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. Do you have a shower before you go to bed?

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  Sometimes.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  I always have a shower before I go to bed. But I don't look moisturised.

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  What do you think about? And I'm nervous to say this, cause some going, having a shower bef- before bed.

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  Yeah.

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  And then not having a shower till just before bedtime the next day.

• 6:53Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, I can't do that. That's by the way, personal, that's just on me. I swear.

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  I could not do that.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. You don't get B O, do you?

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  I do, I think I do.

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  I have no.

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  It's funny you say that, cause leases, I don't ever get it, but I feel like I do.

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  Yeah.

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  Anyway, sometimes in the morning, when I've cocoa buttered.

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  Yeah.

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  I'll come downstairs in a pair of shorts.

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  Yeah.

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  And the dog, if the dogs clock on to the fact I've just cocoa buttered, it's a bit of a nightmare for me.

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  Are they all over you?

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  Yeah, and then so, so.

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  Feel like it's so much affection.

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  So I have to sort of.

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  You sit on the.

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  Get away.

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  You sit on like a kitchen island like that with your legs up.

• 7:32Speaker 00

  Go and leave it, you bloody, you horny devils. But so anyway, the point is, I do love dogs. We both do.

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  Yeah.

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  I do, I actually do think you've got a point about them being at restaurants.

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  I do agree.

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  I, I think, one of the issues that I've got with dog owners, and I'm speaking as one myself, is that they assume that everybody loves dogs as much as they do. And it's just not the case. And some people find them frightening, some people are just not into them. And I think that this is a bit, it's a bit different to kids. It's like take, going to a restaurant, if you're a bit uncomfortable about dogs or you're not cut, used to being around dogs. And then one's near you during your meal. I, I actually think you're all right. I think you're justified to be pissed off about that.

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  Yeah, I, I think that's the thing, isn't it? But then I suppose the same could be said of like, we, we, we do that with kids. You don't think.

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  I think it's a bit different as well.

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  No, but like, I think sometimes, I've been, I've genuinely taken Grace to restaurants. And, you know, just as a start, as being finished, I think, well, we probably should have just gone to Wagamama's. This is probably not the right place.

• 8:33Speaker 00

  Well, I, I.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  So, and I think, I, I personally find that with, with, with the dog thing, I think. And a lot of it comes down to breed, right? It like, if it's this cute little dog that's just quietly sitting there. We went out not so long ago and we we went to a pub for lunch and there was one of the most terrifying dogs I've ever seen. And I was like, looks can be deceptive, it might be a really friendly dog. So I sort of was going to the toilet, so I sort of walked past and uh it sort of stood up and growled, like terrifying. So then you're having to go to Grace who loves dogs, don't go anywhere near that dog. And then you could see most of the restaurant were absolutely terrified of this, like this really aggressive dog. And by the way, that's breed wise, that's all down to owners, right?

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  But it completely destroyed everyone's meal. Everyone was so on edge that this dog might just go mad at any one point and start just devouring people.

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  Yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  It was uh, yeah, so I did, but I think it's quite strict now if you go to places that aren't allowed them, right?

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  Yeah, and I I I think, you know, regards to your point about kids. I think people with kids generally are quite self policing. Like I think when our kids were really young. There's certain places you just go, we ain't gonna go there for a while, do you know what I mean? You know, there's certain places we just, you can see by the restaurant, this isn't the sort of place we've got to bring our kids. And so, but sometimes you'd get it wrong and you'd think it'd be okay. And then our boys, like when there was a particular time when our boys were just, they were a nightmare, uh in, you know, when you go to a restaurant. And so there's a couple of times when Lisa and I'd gone to a restaurant. And the kids are just being kids, right? They're just being noisy kids and you just go, actually in hindsight, we shouldn't have, we shouldn't have brought them here.

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  On on one occasion or a couple of occasions, we've sat down. And we've looked around and then we decided that we shouldn't be here with the kids. And so we've got up and left before we've even ordered any food. You sort of really make the realisation. So I I I think there's a bit of self policing. With dogs though, I I I think that it's. If it's a dog friendly restaurant, I think you can't really complain too much. If they, if the establishment has decided they want to welcome dogs and that's it. But I think if you, I, I do understand why you might not be comfortable about it.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  It's a weird thing as well, because I mentioned about the dogs and like spending a long time. I felt like that about my dog, like we're saying about like the amount of time that I spent when during Covid weirdly. Like, and I've moved up to an area of quite a long way away from any of my family, friends and everything. And I spent so long, me and Catherine together, but Catherine had friends there, so she'd quite often see her mates. And I didn't really know anyone.

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  Hmm.

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  So I spent so much time with that, with, with our dog. It was sort of like the bond between us over that Covid was so tight, do you know what I mean?

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  It's a, it's a very special relationship, I think. So, and I can see. Because it'd be really easy to sit here and sort of take a mick out of people humanising animals and dogs. But I can see where actually there's, there's an element of that that happens when you're, when you have that relationship. It can become very comforting in a, in a, in a situation.

• 11:33Speaker 00

  I, Lisa and I have a disagreement about, uh, uh, uh, it's an ongoing point of contention, how much he humanises our dogs.

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  Yeah, I mean, I didn't know, I was never like, oh, he thinks this or he says that, yeah. Oh, that should, yeah, it was more that I just felt a comfort in him being around.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  Oh, I think it's right to be comforting, but Lisa, you know, Lisa's, she's, she loves those dogs.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, you'd love the dogs.

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  I love the dogs too, but what I'm saying is like, you know, she's.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Does she give them little personalities?

• 11:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  Okay.

• 12:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, they do have birthed, they're very different.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  But I don't think they're thinking, oh, that is a bit grumpy today. You know, I don't think they're thinking that.

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  She doesn't do that for us, does she?

• 12:11Speaker 00

  No, thank God.

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  Okay, yeah, I was gonna say.

• 12:12Speaker 00

  Only when I ask. Um, but anyway, the point is.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  Well, you make her call you daddy, don't you?

• 12:18Speaker 00

  We do like this little Scooby Doo role play.

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  She dresses up as Scooby Doo.

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  Big sandwich.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  She dresses up as. Oh, Vummy. And you try to shag it.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  Okay. Shall we, that's the extent of my shaggy impression.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  This is the least sexy role play ever.

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• 14:09Speaker 00

  Hi Wolf, Alcat and Swan. Cat and Swan don't need to be, I mean, we should address this.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 00

  Cat and Swan have no involvement. They're not even, I don't even think they're listening, are they? Does Catherine listen to this?

• 14:21Speaker 01

  People come up to her now and say, oh my God, we heard the story the other day. And she's like, I stopped listening, like, yeah, after Covid.

• 14:29Speaker 00

  I don't think Lisa's across this.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  She's given up with the emails now. John's like the new Lisa and Cat.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, and speaking of John, any old shit you want to send in to [email protected], please do.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  Pictures of, you know, ingrown hairs or...

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  Or codes that you want broken.

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  Ingrown toenails.

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  Yeah, stuff like that, loves that. He loves cysts being ruptured.

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  Yeah. I need some advice desperately. I've been with my fiance for three years now.

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  Yippee.

• 14:57Speaker 00

  A little backstory. We met when she started working in a pub, which is my local.

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  Oh.

• 15:02Speaker 00

  She was in a relationship and had a son. We started seeing each other while she was in said relationship. Her ex found out and then she broke up with me. A few months later, we got back together after she broke up with her ex.

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  It's like EastEnders.

• 15:13Speaker 00

  It's tumultuous, yeah. Took two years for her to finally make the jump and move in with me. In that time, we've been together. She was living with her ex and son. Within this time, she kept me a secret from her son and her ex. Fucking hell, this is quite complicated. She moved in with me in November twenty twenty five, but she had to leave her son as he wanted to stay with the dad and not live with her. Still, he doesn't know about me, nor does her ex. Oh my god. She goes round every night after work to see her son, apart from Tuesdays and Saturdays. She recently only just plucked up the courage to tell her ex that she is seeing someone, but hasn't told him it's me. We went to Spain last. This is wild. We went to Spain last week and she had to lie to say that she went with a friend.

• 15:56Speaker 00

  When her son's father calls, I have to remain silent all the time. Whilst in Spain, her son asked a few questions and she had a massive panic attack and couldn't breathe, worried about them finding out. After discussion, we decided she had to tell her ex and her son it's me she's seeing. We got engaged on.

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  We got engaged on Valentine's this year. We're trying for a baby. But I feel if she can't tell her ex and son about me, it's going to either end up killing her from a panic attack or make us argue far more. I'm fed up with hiding our relationship and staying silent in my own home. I also really want to try and build a relationship with her son, just like she has with mine. I want to shout about our love and put pictures up on social media and so on. Sorry for long email. The Goblin Shark. What the fuck's a Goblin Shark? I know that's not the point, but.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. Goblin Shark sounds quite cool though. It sounds like, yeah, finding emo.

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  What a fucking mess this is, by the way.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  This is, this is crazy. Yeah. Have you ever been anyone's secret love?

• 16:48Speaker 00

  Uh, no, but equally, I don't think people have wanted to shout from the rooftops about me.

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  All for.

• 17:08Speaker 01

  I've been, I've been someone sort of bit on the side.

• 17:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm not massively surprised.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  Um, but I didn't know I was a.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  You didn't know you were a secret.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  I didn't know I was a secret and a bit on the side for quite some time. Um, and it was quite a sort of, um, I remember like how I found out was terrible. And then sort of kind of tried to cut things off, but then didn't and, and, you know, sort of the relationship the person was in was quite a, um. We was in a particularly nice one and they were having trouble leaving and everything. So I felt like I, I can't just then desert the person. But at this point, you're like, and then, you know, then you're never too sure what's true and what's not. Um, and it's not a very, I think it kind of has an impact on your self-worth. So I guess that's what's happening here. You know, the basis that you're, um, you're in a relationship and, and you're, you're looking at moving things forward.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  But I think it obviously feels like quite a lot of stuff is, is set in a place where it feels like. You know, that she's hanging on to a lot of her past and, and it, and it's obviously a very.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  It, it, it's hard to, it's hard, obviously, because we're reading, we don't know all the details. So you don't know whether her ex has got, um, if there's any kind of.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  Mental health things.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Mental health things, or if, or even if there's a slight element of fear there and, and, you know, there's also quite this, the worry that. You know, if, if your son has chosen to live with, with your, with her ex, her son, sorry. And, and then you're in a situation where she worries then, I guess, that that would have a massively detrimental effect to her. Relationship with her son, that would she should be able to see, see that the son, I, I, I think that the thing about more than anything is that when it comes to something like. In this situation, when you're dealing with children and when you're dealing with matters of the heart like this and, and. The relationship that you have, I think you kind of at some point are gonna have to be, or she's gonna have to be honest. And I think, you know, if you're gonna move forward, you know,

• 19:01Speaker 01

  for example, if you're trying for a kid and you have a kid, it's, it's, that's gonna be a very hard, you know, thing to keep quiet that you're the, the new person in her life. And I think, you know, I certainly, for my own um experience of this, felt constantly that, yeah, yourself, you question your self-worth, you ca- you questioned that you weren't really ever enough. And, and I always just kind of thought, and this is only speaking from a personal experiences, that I, I sort of felt like you're, I was a bit of a stopgap in a situation that it was never, it was just something that was just, so I think, um, I think what I'd say is, I'd, and also, but I'm also con- you, you don't know, unless this is in, we don't know, we don't know the ins and outs. So it's very hard though then to push someone. I'd, I'd say to get her to actually speak to someone, a specialist,

• 19:46Speaker 01

  like a therapist or someone, and allow her to articulate to someone who's not yourself. I wouldn't put too much pressure on her having to tell you everything. She talks about a therapist, but I'd say when it comes to e- like, having something like this big that she's hiding from her child and, and, you know, that is, is, is just not gonna be good for her. It eats away at you, that stuff. So I think it's, it's just making sure that you're there for her, you're supportive, maybe speak to her about, speaking to someone else and just saying, like, give her a bit of space to do that. Um, but I also then would, would just take a little moment for her to address where she's at with life before you start going into the next few steps of your relationship. I'd

• 20:28Speaker 01

  just make sure you solidify her mental wellbeing, your mental wellbeing, and then you start talking about things like marriage and having another child. Cause I just think at the moment, I'd just, just, just take a bait and just say that, let's, let's just get this thing sorted. Let's just try and get us sorted as a couple and move forward. And that's, that's my advice.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  Great advice from Tommy D. Um, I don't think you're in a stable place to be pushing a relationship any further currently.

• 20:57Speaker 00

  I I I think that the the nature in which your relationship started was a little bit sort of covert and uh clandestine and I think that's bled into basically you're you're having an affair, you know, it's all of the hallmarks of an affair, but it isn't. And so she's gone so far down the road of not telling her ex and not telling her son, that it's become bigger and bigger and bigger. Um, it shouldn't have got this far. I mean, the truth is like going on holiday with your partner and keeping it a secret from her son and her ex is just a bit um, and it it it's none of her ex's business if they don't have a child together, but they do. That is what complicates the situation. Um, I

• 21:42Speaker 00

  think she needs to just tell them, you know, because you're trying for a kid. And the fact that she's not willing to tell her ex is, I would say, is a bit of a red flag, to be honest with you. I'm not saying that she's pining for him, but I think it's just a bit, she's in a relationship with you now, and I I think it's very easy, and I'm saying that as somebody that's done, not done this specifically, but who's struggled to tell people difficult things, it's always best to say, and you're not in control of how the other person reacts. She's got to own that. She's in a relationship with you now, and it sounds very, very serious. You're engaged. You're gonna have a kid, or you're trying for a kid. These are things that you cannot keep secret from her son. So, and

• 22:26Speaker 00

  she's she's actually not being very nice to, not deliberately, but inadvertently not being very nice to her son and not being very nice to her, to you, and not being very nice to herself. So this all gets made a lot easier by pushing this out into the open. And I think that's what she needs to do. And I think that actually, there is an argument to not apply pressure necessarily, but to suggest to her that you don't feel comfortable while this is all a big secret. I I think that's a fair thing to say. Or you explain what your feelings are, and then you let her react as she reacts. But the truth is, it cannot be, this is, the current situation you're in is.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  It's toxic.

• 23:10Speaker 00

  It's it's not good in the slightest. Uh, so good luck to you. Hope it all goes well. Please do keep in touch.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  Big love, friend.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  I think that's it guys. Thank you for sending those in and if you want to get in touch you can email the wolf out pod at gmail.com.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  Get rid of the there because they'll think that's part of the email address.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  You can email wolf out pod at gmail.com. Anything you need and if it's just a personal little message for someone I like to call John, then make sure you do that too. Thanks friends.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  Really good that you handled the admin of that.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I just, yeah, I feel kind of like quite emotional after that last email.

• 23:49Speaker 00

  Me too.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  So, so we're doing another recording straight from this. I'm a bit of a miss. I have to, I've only got two t-shirts. I need to go and get another t-shirt.

• 23:57Speaker 00

  Well, here is, we've got a little treat for you. That's I guess not really a treat for anyone listening or watching, but a treat for us. Tom, you are going to decide what we wear for the next episode, aren't you?

• 24:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, hold up. Am I carte blanche to, to push your limits?

• 24:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, but not, I don't want a full outfit, just.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  Just the top.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  Top, yeah.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  Carte blanche, yeah. But please get some, don't get something tight.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  No, I'm not going to get any tight, but like a singlet.

• 24:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, you've got carte blanche, yeah, but don't, nothing spurs, nothing too tight.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  I'm not going to get any spurs. I'm not spending that kind of money. After what happened to me and John with a bloody Arsenal shirt.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  First of all, don't pretend that you had any skin in the game.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  What happened to, poor John's been mortified by that. He's so upset.

• 24:38Speaker 00

  He doesn't look upset now. He looks delighted. All right. Well, we'll see you next time.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Wait for the first game next season, promise.

• 24:44Speaker 00

  No, no, no. What, would you be based on what?

• 24:47Speaker 01

  We'll get the Premier League winners medals on there.

• 24:48Speaker 00

  No, on the bandit cannon shirt, no. All right. See you next time. In Tom's Choice.

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