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1:03 Andrew Santino? What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. If it's your first time joining the show, welcome to the show. We've got a good one for you today. Also, your boy is doing two remaining international shows with my good buddy Bobby Lee. We're going to London and Dublin, London and Dublin, July 18th and 19th, back-to-back. Back-to-back. Come out and see us at BadFriendsPod.com or AndrewSantino.com. Also, I'm gonna be putting up some tour dates. I'm playing the Brea Improv, I think I'm doing Essa Punchline. I'm jumping around, I'm starting to build this brand-new hour because my new hour comes out September 12th, I believe, as of right now, depending on how the date changes. But anyway, go to AndrewSantino.com or BadFriendsPod.com if you want to come see me and the Lee in London or Dublin. Let's go to the episode.
1:46 Speaker 02 In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.
1:52 Speaker 03 You're that creature in the ginger beard!
1:54 Speaker 02 It's dirty and ginger.
2:11 Andrew Santino? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that wrong, my guess, but I mean it once again. Today, it's Petey U.S.A. You gotta be proud of that, dude.
2:20 Speaker 04 Yeah?
2:20 Andrew Santino? You gotta be proud of having USA in your name at this, and this juncture of America.
2:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
2:24 Andrew Santino? Yeah, dude, it's good right now, right?
2:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's awesome.
2:27 Andrew Santino? It used to just be Petey, but now with the protests, you added USA because you want to take a stand.
2:31 Speaker 04 Exactly.
2:31 Andrew Santino? That's exactly right. I get it, man. You're, for people that don't know, I was complimenting you before we started rolling. You're an incredible artist, musician, I would say a comedic talent and personality. I found you on the internet. I touched myself to a few of your videos. You're very sensual, sexual. You have piercing eyes. The guy is very beautiful in person, on the internet, doesn't do him justice. And you're funny, man. You're very good. I was saying, I like, I really like your stuff.
3:00 Speaker 04 Thank you very much.
3:01 Andrew Santino? Very funny. And now you're a bona fide touring musician, which I guess I only knew you as kind of a comedic personality online. And that's kind of how you built the structure, right?
3:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I do, I do a pretty bad job of bridging that gap and letting people know what I'm doing. I don't know.
3:17 Andrew Santino? You gotta put it out there.
3:18 Speaker 04 It's not intuitive to me.
3:19 Andrew Santino? Well, do it right now. Tell them what, tell them what you're up to.
3:21 Speaker 04 I'm a musician. I play indie rock music and I also tour it around the country. And that's what I do.
3:31 Andrew Santino? Perfect, dude.
3:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:32 Andrew Santino? What gave you, what gave you the, what gave you the inspiration to start doing like comedic style sketches and songs and bits for the internet?
3:39 Speaker 04 Covid, honestly. So, yeah, so I had like a real shit job for...
3:44 Andrew Santino? What were you doing?
3:44 Speaker 04 A while. I was working at the mailroom at ICM Partners, a talent agency.
3:47 Andrew Santino? Yuck, dude.
3:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was bad.
3:49 Andrew Santino? Yuck.
3:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:51 Andrew Santino? How many showers did it take to get rid of that scum on your body?
3:53 Speaker 04 Kind of a couple of years worth.
3:55 Andrew Santino? That's, but for people that don't know, ICM is a talent agency.
3:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, RIP.
4:00 Andrew Santino? One of the big, yeah, they got, they got swallowed whole by...
4:03 Speaker 04 CAA.
4:03 Andrew Santino? CAA, ate them alive. CAA, another... Monolithic conglomerate acronym based sludge of talentless bottom feeders who eat off of our plates and beg you to tour and tour into the ground and disregard your mental health issues and your addictions. So they can benefit and then when you do publicly fall, they cannot wait to distance themselves from you.
4:28 Speaker 04 Sure, yeah, they represent me, big shouts.
4:33 Andrew Santino? You're at CAA, that's who's got you?
4:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:35 Andrew Santino? Good for you, dude. So you worked for them and now they work for you?
4:38 Speaker 04 Kinda cool.
4:39 Andrew Santino? That's a beautiful transition of life.
4:41 Speaker 04 Oh yeah, for sure. It's trippy. It's like, yeah, it's unbelievable.
4:45 Andrew Santino? You just put out, the album you gave me off camera, is that a brand new album you just dropped?
4:49 Speaker 04 No, so those were my first two albums, Lean Into Life, which came out like at the very end of Covid. And then USA, which came out about two years ago. And then I'm about to release another album in a couple of weeks.
5:01 Andrew Santino? It comes out in July, right?
5:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, July 11th.
5:03 Andrew Santino? July 11th.
5:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:05 Andrew Santino? Just short of my favorite holiday, September 11th.
5:08 Speaker 04 Yeah. That's why we picked it.
5:10 Andrew Santino? That's exactly right. Actually, my special comes out on September 12th, the day after 9/11, which was deliberate.
5:16 Speaker 04 Cool, yeah.
5:17 Andrew Santino? Never forget, dude.
5:18 Speaker 04 Just kinda get people...
5:21 Andrew Santino? I'm a nostalgic guy and I want people to be nostalgic when they think about my album and I... We open up the special with, well, I shouldn't give it away, but it's, there's a... It's a plane crash. It's a big, it's a whole thing.
5:35 Speaker 04 Cool.
5:35 Andrew Santino? Yeah, in the opening sequence, I, the plane crashes, I'm the only one that lives and I do a stand-up show to the, to the people that are not there anymore.
5:42 Speaker 04 Never forget.
5:43 Andrew Santino? Never forget. That's the name of the special, Never Forget. Never Forgot. Don't Forgot.
5:46 Speaker 04 Donnie Darko came out on September 11th, 2001.
5:50 Andrew Santino? No.
5:51 Speaker 04 And no one saw it in theaters and that's why it became like a cult classic later.
5:56 Andrew Santino? Whoa, that's true, huh?
5:57 Speaker 04 Yeah. So it's a good move.
5:59 Andrew Santino? No, he's not tru-, he's saying that's not true.
6:01 Speaker 05 It came out on October 26th, 2001.
6:04 Andrew Santino? Damn, dude. What came out, what movies?
6:07 Speaker 05 Well, Jay-Z's The Blueprint came out on September 11th.
6:08 Andrew Santino? Blueprint came out on September 11th.
6:10 Speaker 05 And also Bob Dylan's Love and Theft.
6:11 Andrew Santino? Whoa.
6:13 Speaker 05 Two great albums.
6:14 Andrew Santino? On September 11th.
6:15 Speaker 05 2001.
6:16 Andrew Santino? Jay-Z's The Blueprint.
6:17 Speaker 05 Came out on 9/11, yeah.
6:19 Andrew Santino? Such a good album. But you don't like hip-hop, so that doesn't resonate for you. What did you grow up listening to?
6:23 Speaker 04 I grew up listening to pop punk music, like Blink-182, New Found Glory.
6:27 Andrew Santino? Blink-182 you've toured with?
6:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:29 Andrew Santino? Which is, how crazy is that?
6:30 Speaker 04 Awesome, unreal, yeah.
6:31 Andrew Santino? It's gotta be so surreal to have that kinda like, come back again. Look, those that you work for, now they work for you. People that you're a fan of, now you work with them.
6:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
6:40 Andrew Santino? Your life is kinda perfect.
6:41 Speaker 04 It's cool, it's cool.
6:42 Andrew Santino? Are you single?
6:43 Speaker 04 Uh, no, I'm married. I just got married last weekend.
6:45 Andrew Santino? Oh, oh, last weekend. Whoa, dude.
6:48 Speaker 04 Thank you.
6:49 Andrew Santino? Alright, that's rad. Are you gonna, uh, you guys are gonna make a family, or you're just gonna, just you two?
6:54 Speaker 04 I think we're gonna make a family.
6:55 Andrew Santino? Good for you.
6:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's something I never would've done on my own.
6:58 Andrew Santino? Yeah, you literally can't. Yeah, you actually can't. Yeah, I mean, you could, no, that's not true. You could. You could adopt a kid. You could have a kid with a, uh, anonymous partner and just raise it by yourself. It's a new world, dude.
7:09 Speaker 04 Totally. I wouldn't have done that. So, it feels nice to be, it feels nice to...
7:15 Andrew Santino? To find someone you love?
7:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, for sure. And sorta had that decided, that was kinda like a pre-qualification.
7:22 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
7:22 Speaker 04 And I'm like, alright, let's strap in, let's do it.
7:24 Andrew Santino? Might as well.
7:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:26 Andrew Santino? I noticed on your arm, let me see your forearm, on your right forearm, is there a Chicago flag on there, huh?
7:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:30 Andrew Santino? God bless. Cause you were, you were, you raised in Chicago, but not born in Chicago.
7:34 Speaker 04 No, I was born in Birmingham, Michigan.
7:36 Andrew Santino? Birmingham, Michigan. And then your parents realized they wanted to go somewhere legitimate.
7:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:40 Andrew Santino? And give you a real future.
7:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, totally.
7:42 Andrew Santino? And so they said, "Let's get him in Chicago."
7:43 Speaker 04 Exactly.
7:44 Andrew Santino? Did you start music in the Chicago music scene?
7:46 Speaker 04 Uh, kinda, yeah. In high school, I was in bands and stuff. Got to, you know, play in the city.
7:50 Andrew Santino? Did you play the Beat Kitchen ever?
7:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, many times.
7:53 Andrew Santino? I played there before.
7:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a great, yeah, Subterranean.
7:56 Andrew Santino? Did you ever play Fireside Bowl?
7:57 Speaker 04 No, that was the 21, that was like the hard 21+ one.
8:00 Andrew Santino? That's right, yeah, you can't be underage there.
8:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, so Beat Kitchen, I got to play underage, Subterranean, uh, yeah, I'm doing my album release show at Metro.
8:08 Andrew Santino? At the Metro?
8:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:10 Andrew Santino? One of the most famous venues for people that don't know, that's pretty incredible. It's like... That's Chicago's finest.
8:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:16 Andrew Santino? Did you remember going to see shows as a kid? Did you see a band that got big that you saw when they were pretty small in Chicago? I feel like this, I share this story with a lot of people.
8:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think like in the, in the pop punk world, especially seeing bands at Metro. Like that was a, that was kind of like a mainstay. Like everyone toured there when I was in high school.
8:33 Andrew Santino? Big time.
8:33 Speaker 04 So I saw like Say Anything there before they got really big.
8:37 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
8:38 Speaker 04 I saw Death Cat for Cutie in Chicago before they got really big.
8:41 Andrew Santino? Wow.
8:42 Speaker 04 But yeah, I think the, the access to seeing live music at really sick concert venues was almost more formative than like being in bands.
8:50 Andrew Santino? Oh yeah, I mean, it's because it gives you this like real kind of viewpoint of, I mean, it's just, it's, it's a reality. You're like, oh, this is A, a possibility if I really want this thing.
9:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
9:01 Andrew Santino? And it, and it's tickling your fantasies of like, uh, being a part of that thing. I think, I think, I think going to see stuff as a kid was so much more important to me than it is now. And it's a bummer. I want to go see more stuff now.
9:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:15 Andrew Santino? But we have stuff.
9:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:16 Andrew Santino? Shit to do.
9:17 Speaker 04 I mean, also like, kind of like, I, I suffer from this thing where it's just like, because I do it for a job, like, kind of like the smokescreen has been eliminated. Like the mysticism of it all, like, I used to be like staying in like concert venues and like look up, sort of like through the fog. Like, these are like gods, you know?
9:34 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
9:34 Speaker 04 And then you see the back of a concert venue when you're doing it as your job and like kind of just seeing it. I don't know. It's like makes going to concerts less fun.
9:41 Andrew Santino? Oh dude, I agree. It's the same thing. Like I hate comedy when people are like, oh, do you like stand up? And it's like, I think it's the most disgusting. I hate it more than I've ever hated anything on earth. I loathe it.
9:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of music these days.
9:53 Andrew Santino? It kind of sucks, right? Music sucks. Yeah. But good music's rad.
9:56 Speaker 04 Good music's awesome.
9:57 Andrew Santino? Right. Once in a while I find something that I really like in the comedic space. It's usually for me, to be honest, I'm not, and I'm not kissing ass. It's something like what you do sometimes, like. You know, my, I've lived in stand-up for 20 years, so. It's just different for me, just like you're saying, it's hard to explain, but, um, but when I see something like what you've created, or if I see a, a sketch that's kind of out of my world, um, that would, that I gravitate to, because it's not what I'm used to.
10:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:26 Andrew Santino? Right? Like, it impresses me because we don't, I don't live in that section of comedy.
10:31 Speaker 04 Right.
10:32 Andrew Santino? Right? It's kind of like, some music may impress you because it's not the, your world of music.
10:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:37 Andrew Santino? You know, something super alternative, you're like, oh, that's pretty rad.
10:39 Speaker 04 For sure. Yeah, I feel the same way. It's like the stuff that I can't even like wrap my head around how they were able to do it, because it's just so different than everything that I do. Then that's, that's stuff that gets me really excited.
10:50 Andrew Santino? Favorite band, least favorite band?
10:52 Speaker 04 Favorite band right now is Def Leppard.
10:54 Andrew Santino? Yeah, love Def Leppard. So you're getting a return to the old days, huh?
10:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:57 Andrew Santino? You're going backwards.
10:57 Speaker 04 I, I realized that I missed a lot.
11:00 Andrew Santino? You did. Well, you weren't alive.
11:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:01 Andrew Santino? So it's like, what can you do, man?
11:03 Speaker 04 Exactly.
11:03 Andrew Santino? You ever heard of the Beatles? You're gonna love these guys.
11:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they're awesome.
11:06 Andrew Santino? They're pretty good.
11:07 Speaker 04 Def Leppard's cool because I, I, I think I grew up thinking that they were just in like, like a hair metal band, uh, like a kind of like Poison, or like a bunch of other bands that are like super corny, but if you listen to the album Hysteria, it's pretty, it's pretty awesome. It's a classic.
11:23 Andrew Santino? I understand you saying that you're, you're, you're, you're inclined to think that they were maybe corny, because of what you're maybe shown as a kid.
11:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
11:30 Andrew Santino? It's the same way I feel about Kiss.
11:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:32 Andrew Santino? Like, I loathe Kiss.
11:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:34 Andrew Santino? But I do understand that there is a very significantly large group of people who are like, no, no, they made good music. I just hated the characters.
11:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:42 Andrew Santino? I didn't like that. It like pissed me off.
11:44 Speaker 04 You know what, growing, I think my 30s have taught me that like, a lot of stuff that's been really popular for a long time is actually super awesome.
11:53 Andrew Santino? Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, there's a reason for it.
11:55 Speaker 04 Like Hawaii.
11:56 Andrew Santino? The, the, the state of Hawaii?
11:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, fucking rocks.
11:59 Andrew Santino? Yeah, you've, okay, so you hated Hawaii?
12:01 Speaker 04 I was just like, I didn't hate Hawaii, but I think I just like had an image in my mind, it's like, this is just where like, like, white dudes go to play golf.
12:10 Andrew Santino? And that is true.
12:11 Speaker 04 And, yeah.
12:12 Andrew Santino? That is remarkably true.
12:13 Speaker 04 And it's like maybe not gonna be like the coolest place to go on vacation. Uh, cuz it's not like, super adventurous or out there or whatever. Uh, I don't know, I had like a cool guy thing about it.
12:24 Andrew Santino? Right.
12:24 Speaker 04 And then, I went to Hawaii for the first time last year and I was like, immediately like, damn this is the sickest place ever.
12:31 Andrew Santino? Yeah, that's kinda what happens.
12:32 Speaker 04 I was like, what else do rich people like? This is like, I gotta like, figure out, I don't know, yeah.
12:38 Andrew Santino? What else do these rich people enjoy? I think I might enjoy some of this as well.
12:41 Speaker 04 I think so, yeah, yeah.
12:42 Andrew Santino? I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk to you and a year from now he's gonna be flying private. He's like, I thought that was whack. It turns out it's awesome. That's, this, yeah.
12:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:50 Andrew Santino? Yeah, not everything that rich people like is cool, but a lot of times when you dabble in the things, get the, that they do.
12:54 Speaker 04 Massively popular things.
12:56 Andrew Santino? It is massively popular. There's a reason. It's pretty incredible.
12:59 Speaker 04 Disneyland is fun.
13:01 Andrew Santino? Uh, that one I'm gonna fight you on. Yeah, that one's, that one's insane. I'm not going there.
13:05 Speaker 04 I, I don't, I love it.
13:06 Andrew Santino? I'm forty-one years old.
13:07 Speaker 04 When's the last time you've been?
13:08 Andrew Santino? With my nieces a decade ago.
13:10 Speaker 04 Oh, gotcha. Maybe it's changed.
13:12 Andrew Santino? I have to be with a child to go to a thing like that.
13:14 Speaker 04 Gotcha. I think a child would ruin my experience at a thing like that.
13:17 Andrew Santino? Interesting. That's good. Well, I'm glad you're gonna have a kid with this new wifey. You're gonna love this, dude. They're gonna fuck up all of your shit.
13:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, maybe, maybe.
13:25 Andrew Santino? I hope you don't like anything that you own, cuz they're gonna, it's theirs.
13:28 Speaker 04 No, I don't like anything I own. That's something about me too. I don't have any stuff that means fucking anything to me.
13:34 Andrew Santino? Good.
13:34 Speaker 04 Um, that's cool. And I, I, basically I'm just really into hiking and like, looking, looking for shit outside. Which I think is pretty good for like toddler, toddler.
13:45 Andrew Santino? Toddler stuff, expl- anything in the exploration world.
13:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm excited to do that and like see it through a new lens, you know?
13:50 Andrew Santino? I like that, dude. I, I, I wanna see the, I wanna see this journey for you.
13:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, sure, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll document it on, on Instagram. Yeah, it'll be my whole life.
13:58 Andrew Santino? As you do. Now, did you start making a living on Instagram and TikTok and stuff and that was able, that was giving you the ability to jump ship?
14:06 Speaker 04 It was, uh, it was kind of like, I was always like, I was always just like gone for the thing that I knew that could pay me. Um, so the first thing was music. So I was like working that shit job. And then I was able to secure like an indie deal that I got in advance for. And the advance was only seventeen thousand dollars, but I was only making thirty-one thousand dollars at the time, so I was like, okay, I can. You responsibly leave, but I can leave and figure out how to make up the extra twelve.
14:37 Andrew Santino? Right.
14:38 Speaker 04 And so I left the job and then covid hit right away. And so then I was just like crashing at my friend's house. Through that and then we were making TikTok videos every day. The TikTok thing blew up and then as the seventeen grand was sort of dwindling. Ad deals started coming in.
14:57 Andrew Santino? Amazing.
14:58 Speaker 04 And that was before like companies like really knew what was up with TikTok. Which I think now they like maybe think like the juice isn't worth the squeeze. But on the early days, they were like kind of showing it out.
15:10 Andrew Santino? Oh, well, yeah, they were because they were.
15:12 Speaker 04 They didn't like know what it was.
15:13 Andrew Santino? They thought this was gonna be the thing.
15:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:15 Andrew Santino? And it is to a degree, it's just now it's inundate now there's a lot of noise.
15:18 Speaker 04 For sure. But I hit it at the right time.
15:21 Andrew Santino? You did.
15:22 Speaker 04 And then I signed at the talent agency right as I was doing it. So I actually had people like brokering those deals for me, which is really cool. It's so funny when you have someone else doing that for you, the person who is kind of just like, well, I guess we have to do it. I don't know, it just like legitimized this thing in a way that's still totally fake, but.
15:39 Andrew Santino? Yeah, it's bullshit, but it's it's adult bullshit.
15:41 Speaker 04 Exactly, so I started living off that. That sort of replaced the music thing and then covid started dwindling down and then the music thing started hitting back up. And then I signed up major label deal and then.
15:55 Andrew Santino? Who's the label?
15:56 Speaker 04 Capital Records.
15:57 Andrew Santino? Big.
15:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
15:58 Andrew Santino? Big building, did it take you to the building?
16:00 Speaker 04 No, the building was under construction.
16:02 Andrew Santino? What a crock of shit.
16:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm happy about that because I don't like that. I don't like the.
16:07 Andrew Santino? Pump and circumstance?
16:07 Speaker 04 I don't like the big conference room with like a bunch of, you know, twenty three year olds.
16:12 Andrew Santino? Don't say juice, don't say it dude, I, did you see him almost say it? He almost said it, I watched him almost say it, that's crazy.
16:19 Speaker 04 Twenty three year olds.
16:20 Andrew Santino? Uh huh dude, yeah, they like twenty three year olds, I get it dude, gross, cut it out dude. This guy's fighting the Illuminati today, no, I get what you're saying, you don't like the whole show.
16:30 Speaker 04 I don't.
16:31 Andrew Santino? Yeah, it's a lot.
16:31 Speaker 04 Cause I worked, I worked at ICM long enough to realize that it's meaningless.
16:37 Andrew Santino? Right.
16:37 Speaker 04 You know?
16:37 Andrew Santino? You mean everything, life?
16:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
16:40 Andrew Santino? Everything is pretty meaningless.
16:41 Speaker 04 A lot of the, just like a lot of the. Showbiz stuff. I don't know, it's like disheartening to see how things work and why they work.
16:48 Andrew Santino? Well, I think it's just because you're in this business, right? I would argue that all businesses are meaningless and bullshit.
16:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:54 Andrew Santino? You couldn't name me a business that your friends do that's worth anything unless it's helping humans.
17:00 Speaker 04 Right.
17:01 Andrew Santino? Unless it's literally helping humans.
17:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, if you get to the bottom of everything, everything's pretty bleak.
17:04 Andrew Santino? Most things are bullshit.
17:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:06 Andrew Santino? Right? Yeah. Insurance is bullshit. Sales is bullshit. Marketing's bullshit.
17:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:09 Andrew Santino? It's all just like a spinning wheel of capitalism unless you're helping humans.
17:14 Speaker 04 Insurance, though, feels like bullshit going in, so at least you know.
17:19 Andrew Santino? Yeah, they're all going right. It's like Los Angeles. We don't pretend.
17:22 Speaker 04 No one's getting their dreams broken by like a bad job in insurance, you know?
17:24 Andrew Santino? Yeah, we don't pretend to not be fake. When someone's like, everyone in LA is fake, you're like, yeah, but we know, but you know that.
17:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:29 Andrew Santino? You know, we're, LA is insurance.
17:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, exactly.
17:32 Andrew Santino? You know going in it's awful.
17:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:34 Andrew Santino? Big deal. Get over it.
17:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:36 Andrew Santino? Right?
17:36 Speaker 04 How do you like living here?
17:37 Andrew Santino? It's dog shit.
17:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:39 Andrew Santino? No, no, no, I like it. No, dude, I've been here for, I've been here, like I said, for 20 years and, um, you know, my time has come to an end.
17:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:47 Andrew Santino? I've been saying this for a little bit too long now, but I have to have an exit strategy with my wife. Like, we're working out a way that we can leave.
17:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:55 Andrew Santino? Uh, because people are like, just fucking move. You're like, well, if anything was that easy.
17:59 Speaker 04 Right.
17:59 Andrew Santino? There's a lot going on. So like, um, I do think we put a, we put a timestamp on when we're gonna go and I, and we are gonna go eventually.
18:07 Speaker 04 Where are you gonna go?
18:08 Andrew Santino? I don't know, man. And even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.
18:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:10 Andrew Santino? You know, because I don't trust you. No, I think we don't know you. We don't really know, you know? We get pitched a lot of different stuff. We hunt for places. We have a few places we really, really like.
18:19 Speaker 04 Where do you like?
18:20 Andrew Santino? I can't, again, I get, there's no chance I'll tell you, dude. I'll tell you. How about the, I'll tell you off camera where we like.
18:25 Speaker 04 Sure.
18:25 Andrew Santino? Um, but I just feel like there's just, we want, we want a super escape from this world because we've lived here for a while.
18:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:33 Andrew Santino? And I love LA. I do.
18:34 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
18:35 Andrew Santino? I'm a big LA fan.
18:36 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
18:36 Andrew Santino? But, um, you know, I think like I, I, I, like I took the, I've taken a lot of rides and I'm kind of like. You know, I know where this one goes.
18:44 Speaker 04 Sure, yeah.
18:45 Andrew Santino? So, I kinda am ready for something a little bit different, you know? A little bit unique, but then again, I wake up, I walk the dog and I drink a cup of coffee in the sun in the morning and it's fucking rad.
18:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:53 Andrew Santino? It's pretty rad.
18:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:55 Andrew Santino? A lot of, what did you say? A lot of things are super popular, turn out to be pretty fucking rad.
18:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:59 Andrew Santino? L.A.'s, you know, everyone hates on it, but you're like, it's pretty fucking rad.
19:02 Speaker 04 Exactly.
19:02 Andrew Santino? You have the beach, you have the mountains, you know, it's a short drive up through the canyons to get completely away. You can go out to the desert in an hour and a half. I mean, you... One day I went up to the mountains and then went down to the desert and had a, a snow, a snow sand day.
19:16 Speaker 04 Nice.
19:16 Andrew Santino? Pretty incredible. And I know guys that do a snow surf day. Where they go skiing in the morning and then they make it to, or no, vice versa. They, they surf in the morning and they ski by the afternoon.
19:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, the access to everything is crazy.
19:27 Andrew Santino? It's pretty incredible.
19:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:28 Andrew Santino? It's better than Chicago in terms of weather wise.
19:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:31 Andrew Santino? But Chicago has a lot more culture that I miss.
19:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:34 Andrew Santino? People, friendships, community, that kinda stuff.
19:37 Speaker 04 Yeah. The white people culture in Chicago is unparalleled.
19:40 Andrew Santino? The white people culture? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:42 Speaker 04 There's no, just like, like L.A., like, the black culture in L.A.
19:47 Andrew Santino? Careful?
19:47 Speaker 04 Insane. Awesome.
19:48 Andrew Santino? Yeah, okay, I was just gonna say.
19:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
19:50 Andrew Santino? Twice, I thought he was gonna go down a dark road there.
19:52 Speaker 04 No, no, no. Korean culture, amazing. That Latino culture, culture, awesome.
19:58 Andrew Santino? Yeah, there I'm with you, yeah.
19:59 Speaker 04 Yeah. White people culture in L.A. specifically, not the best, not the strongest.
20:04 Andrew Santino? They don't really have one here.
20:04 Speaker 04 Right. Yeah, yeah. It's identityless.
20:06 Andrew Santino? Right. Everyone's just, so there is, right. You're, what you're saying is, what I hear PDU S.A. saying is that white lives matter is what he's saying. And he wants to bring it back to a white, did you hear that? He said...
20:17 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no, no, no.
20:18 Andrew Santino? What he said was, he wants a white dominated culture again, to we will rise is what he said.
20:23 Speaker 04 No, I'm just saying, I appreciate all the, like, all the different cultures in L.A., but I'm not, I'm not trying to like roll up and like blow up the spot, like with my friends. You know what I mean?
20:32 Andrew Santino? There is no, there is no white culture here, yes. The, okay, so the white culture in Chicago is what to you?
20:39 Speaker 04 It's like, the best sport, sports culture I've ever seen.
20:42 Andrew Santino? Yes, yeah.
20:43 Speaker 04 Some of the best bar culture I've ever seen.
20:44 Andrew Santino? Correct.
20:47 Speaker 04 And that's kinda it. Just watching sports and getting drunk.
20:50 Andrew Santino? Sports and drunk, yeah.
20:51 Speaker 04 Well, like, that's, oh, what else we got?
20:52 Andrew Santino? No, there's not much else to life, honestly. We talked a little bit before the show.
20:55 Speaker 04 That's fun.
20:56 Andrew Santino? You're not hav- we're not having anything to drink today. I'm a little, I got to dry out.
21:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:00 Andrew Santino? People, you know, people are always, "How come you don't have a cocktail on the show?" Well, dude, I gotta dry out sometimes.
21:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:07 Andrew Santino? And I, you know, I had a little bit of a run in New York and, you know, we had a little party with family. And one thing leads to another, and they own the bar, and it's like, when they own the bar.
21:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:19 Andrew Santino? It's, you're done, you're done.
21:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
21:21 Andrew Santino? When someone you know owns the bar.
21:23 Speaker 04 Yeah. New York is tough in particular, because it's just like, I mean, it's so, like, stimuli, like, overload, like, I feel like. And the bars are so cool, and they're like drawing you in, and it's so loud. I'm just like, you have to get really fucked up there, like, every night.
21:39 Andrew Santino? Yep.
21:39 Speaker 04 And it's always with a meal, and so I just ended up having acid reflux for like 11 days.
21:44 Andrew Santino? I got it right now.
21:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's awful.
21:46 Andrew Santino? I'm on Tums, yeah.
21:46 Speaker 04 And I just wanna, I'd end up just like crawling out of there. I'm never leaving New York, like, wanting to stay.
21:51 Andrew Santino? Right.
21:52 Speaker 04 Any longer.
21:52 Andrew Santino? That's why you can't have a morning flight from New York. You gotta get an afternoon flight when you leave.
21:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:57 Andrew Santino? Because you need a couple of extra hours of, let me pull my shit together.
22:00 Speaker 04 Totally, totally.
22:01 Andrew Santino? Hangover, hangover flights are the worst thing in the world.
22:03 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
22:04 Andrew Santino? Having to fly hungover. I've had to do that from Chicago a couple of times.
22:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:08 Andrew Santino? Just really awful.
22:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:10 Andrew Santino? Really awful.
22:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, I get, started to get really heady about it, too. I had, not until now did I start thinking about how absolutely insane flying is, just like being in an airplane.
22:19 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
22:20 Speaker 04 It's really nuts.
22:21 Andrew Santino? It's absurd, yeah.
22:22 Speaker 04 And I like, I can't believe people have been doing it for that long and not really talking about how crazy it is.
22:31 Speaker 04 Like, in the 60s, I don't know, it's just so normal, but it's so not normal.
22:34 Andrew Santino? You're thinking about a time when, like, there was way more accidents, you know?
22:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:38 Andrew Santino? Like, that was the most ballsy shit. When you used to fly back in the day, it was a little bit more of like a, we'll see.
22:42 Speaker 04 It just doesn't make sense. The whole thing doesn't make sense. I don't know, it's been kinda tripping me out.
22:47 Andrew Santino? From a scientific point of view, it does make perfect sense.
22:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:49 Andrew Santino? Right, but I know what you're saying.
22:51 Speaker 04 I've flown a paper airplane before.
22:52 Andrew Santino? Yeah, you get it, you get it, you understand lift, and yeah, you get that, but, I get it.
22:56 Speaker 04 It's fucking like, this thing is heavy.
22:58 Andrew Santino? Yeah, it's heavy. How does it stay up?
23:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:01 Andrew Santino? How does a boat float? I get it.
23:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:02 Andrew Santino? I get what wrecks your brain.
23:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, but then I-
23:04 Andrew Santino? Way too you see Mission Impossible.
23:05 Speaker 04 I pretend like I'm on a literal spaceship, and that the air is just word, in space. Which is technically
23:13 Andrew Santino? You are.
23:13 Speaker 04 True.
23:14 Andrew Santino? Do you smoke weed?
23:15 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah.
23:15 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
23:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:16 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
23:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:17 Andrew Santino? I got it.
23:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
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27:41 Andrew Santino? Do you get high before you fly?
27:42 Speaker 04 No, no, no. I get high by myself at night.
27:45 Andrew Santino? Wife no, wife no smoke?
27:47 Speaker 04 Uh, no, she doesn't.
27:48 Andrew Santino? Me wife no smoke. So you smoke alone?
27:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
27:51 Andrew Santino? And does she enjoy that part of your life? Or is that something that's like, you do that, I don't like it?
27:56 Speaker 04 It's, uh, no, it's fine.
27:58 Andrew Santino? She doesn't care?
27:58 Speaker 04 She doesn't care.
27:59 Andrew Santino? Right.
27:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, kind of makes no difference.
28:01 Andrew Santino? Yeah, I mean, as long as it doesn't change you as a person.
28:04 Speaker 04 No, no.
28:04 Andrew Santino? And it doesn't?
28:05 Speaker 04 No, no.
28:06 Andrew Santino? Do you smoke every day?
28:07 Speaker 04 Uh, when I have it, I'm kind of just like, if something's right in front of me, I'll do it. Uh, but if it's not in front of me, then I'll forget that it exists.
28:14 Andrew Santino? Uh, I love that. This sounds like an AA meeting.
28:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:17 Andrew Santino? Yeah, I mean, if it's in front of me, I'm gonna consume it, there's no doubt. Whether it's drugs or, or alcohol. I understand this feeling.
28:22 Speaker 04 Kind of true.
28:23 Andrew Santino? Yeah, if it's right there, it's tough.
28:24 Speaker 04 With drugs and stuff too, it's just like if I, and it's, this is easy in LA, cause it's not, it's, LA for me is not a party town.
28:31 Andrew Santino? No, it's not. Well, you, you have to go make it a party town.
28:34 Speaker 04 Exactly.
28:34 Andrew Santino? It's not inherently a party town.
28:35 Speaker 04 Exactly. And I don't, I don't make things a party. Like, I don't seek it out. But if the party is right in front of me.
28:41 Andrew Santino? It's gotta come to you.
28:42 Speaker 04 Whatever it is, I'll, I'll, I'll usually do it.
28:44 Andrew Santino? Uh, anything?
28:46 Speaker 04 Not anything.
28:46 Andrew Santino? What do you say no to?
28:47 Speaker 04 Um, I would, I would say no to doing heroin for sure.
28:51 Andrew Santino? Really?
28:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:52 Andrew Santino? Alright.
28:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:54 Andrew Santino? Don't, uh, yeah, we have it. We thought.
28:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:57 Andrew Santino? We didn't know. I saw the shirt, I was like, he's gonna be down.
29:00 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
29:00 Andrew Santino? But he's not, dude.
29:01 Speaker 04 No.
29:02 Andrew Santino? Yeah, H, H is tough. That's, I don't think you're getting past H a lot. I don't think, I've never been to a party where someone's like, dude, you wanna ride?
29:08 Speaker 04 No.
29:08 Andrew Santino? You wanna, you wanna catch the horse?
29:09 Speaker 04 I think doing prescription painkillers recreationally was a really, really popular thing in...
29:15 Andrew Santino? And those are opioids.
29:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:17 Andrew Santino? Yeah, it's pretty similar.
29:18 Speaker 04 So I've done that before, but I reacted negatively to being high on narcotics, which is really great for me. But I couldn't pee when I was on Vicodin. Uh, like it would paralyze my bladder.
29:31 Andrew Santino? Really?
29:31 Speaker 04 Yeah. I just like, couldn't do it. So I was like, no matter how good I feel, like I'm, I'm not dealing with this.
29:35 Andrew Santino? You physically, you felt like you had to pee, but you couldn't pee?
29:38 Speaker 04 Yeah. I like, literally like, I think like my urethra is paralyzed.
29:42 Andrew Santino? Oh, wow.
29:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:43 Andrew Santino? Good name for a band.
29:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:44 Andrew Santino? Paralyzed urethra.
29:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:46 Andrew Santino? What's up, we're paralyzed urethra! What's up, Hokeygan?
29:49 Speaker 04 But I, I do think it's a blessing, you know?
29:51 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
29:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:52 Andrew Santino? Get you away from that.
29:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, totally.
29:54 Andrew Santino? So not every day smoke weed, but every day.
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30:32 Speaker 04 Every day that I have it.
30:33 Andrew Santino? Yeah, so that's every day.
30:34 Speaker 04 Every night, yeah.
30:36 Andrew Santino? Every night.
30:36 Speaker 04 That I have it.
30:37 Andrew Santino? No edibles?
30:38 Speaker 04 Uh, no, cuz I like to have control.
30:42 Andrew Santino? Me too.
30:42 Speaker 04 Through like mechanisms, like vessels that just like make sense to me.
30:45 Andrew Santino? Right.
30:46 Speaker 04 You know, just like I'll take like three, and I'll just take like three hits of a joint and like then like blast off. Like I don't have a high tolerance for that or anything.
30:53 Andrew Santino? No one does anymore. The weed is made joking with, you know, it's comical at this point.
30:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
30:57 Andrew Santino? It's like so absurd. I've, when I was a kid, I used to be able to smoke a joint to myself. And that was like a fun thing to do.
31:03 Speaker 04 For sure.
31:04 Andrew Santino? If I smoke a whole joint to myself now, it's, I'm in a bad way.
31:08 Speaker 04 Well, it's also like something happened where it's like when I would smoke weed in high school, like the only thing that you have to worry about are just like your parents and the cops. And you don't have enough knowledge to know how weird the world is to like freak you out. And then this thing happens where you just like learn about shit and you smoke weed uh, as an adult and you get really high and you start worrying about every, you start worrying about your parents and the cops in a completely different existential way.
31:36 Andrew Santino? Yeah, especially because my dad is a cop. Then it gets even more scary. No, he's not, he's not a cop.
31:40 Speaker 04 But it's just, you know, it's just like, oh, there's more things to be, feel weird about.
31:44 Andrew Santino? Parents and cops.
31:45 Speaker 04 Your world is so small.
31:46 Andrew Santino? You think about, how do airplanes fly?
31:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:50 Andrew Santino? That's scarier.
31:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:51 Andrew Santino? Yeah, physics and mechanisms and so much could go wrong.
31:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:55 Andrew Santino? That plane just crashed in India.
31:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:57 Andrew Santino? It's crazy.
31:58 Speaker 04 Nuts.
31:58 Andrew Santino? That's fucking nuts, dude. And one guy lived.
32:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:01 Andrew Santino? Did you see that guy?
32:01 Speaker 04 I did.
32:02 Andrew Santino? He looked fine.
32:03 Speaker 04 He, yeah.
32:03 Andrew Santino? It was kinda wild. I was like, this guy does not look like he got into a plane fucking crash.
32:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't know.
32:08 Andrew Santino? He was speaking coherently. He was by the exit door and one... How guilty would you feel if you're the only guy that lived?
32:15 Speaker 04 I, guilty. I don't know if guilty is the right.
32:19 Andrew Santino? Guilt wouldn't weigh heavy on you, that like, why you? Why did you have to, why did you get to live and everybody had to die?
32:24 Speaker 04 For some reason, that doesn't pop up.
32:26 Andrew Santino? Wow, so you're super self-indulgent.
32:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:30 Andrew Santino? So self-involved, huh?
32:31 Speaker 04 I would just be so freaked out in general that I don't think I would be capable of feeling a actual feeling.
32:37 Andrew Santino? Of guilt because you survived?
32:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:39 Andrew Santino? Cause survivor's guilt, you know, this is a real thing.
32:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, for sure.
32:42 Andrew Santino? People feel awful when they get in a car accident and someone else dies and they live.
32:46 Speaker 04 You know, who's to say? Who's to say?
32:48 Andrew Santino? You are, you can. I would feel awful. I, I don't know.
32:51 Speaker 05 I'd believe I was dead.
32:53 Andrew Santino? Yeah, he died.
32:54 Speaker 05 My brain processing death.
32:56 Speaker 04 I already believe I'm dead.
32:57 Andrew Santino? You think you're dead?
32:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:59 Andrew Santino? I've never seen you more alive.
33:01 Speaker 04 Oh, cool. That's good. That's good for me to hear.
33:03 Andrew Santino? Why do you think you died already?
33:04 Speaker 04 Um.
33:05 Andrew Santino? Because life is so good that you can't believe it?
33:07 Speaker 04 Sometimes.
33:07 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
33:08 Speaker 04 I think that like my life was going real bad and.
33:12 Andrew Santino? It was going real bad?
33:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, just.
33:14 Andrew Santino? Like you mean work, your shitty job?
33:16 Speaker 04 I couldn't get out of this fucking like rut that I was in and I was like, I had, I'd committed to that, you know?
33:23 Andrew Santino? You were gonna be a rut guy?
33:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, I was just like, I'm gonna be a loser forever.
33:26 Andrew Santino? It's kinda rad though, too.
33:27 Speaker 04 A little bit, yeah. I think the acceptance of it kinda turned me around. But I got COVID really, really bad, like one of the first cases of anyone that I knew, like straight up like January before it was like.
33:38 Andrew Santino? Before it was a hit?
33:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, before it was a hit.
33:40 Andrew Santino? Yeah, you liked that band before anybody else knew it?
33:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:42 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
33:43 Speaker 04 And then, uh, I had it for like 10 days and there was certain times when I was going to bed and I was like, I'm not gonna wake up and that's fine.
33:52 Andrew Santino? You feel like you were gonna die?
33:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:54 Andrew Santino? Wow.
33:54 Speaker 04 And like I, like we weren't, it wasn't in the news, I wasn't talking about it and no one was talking about it.
33:58 Andrew Santino? You just felt so sick.
34:00 Speaker 04 I just felt so sick, like could not, I was like, this is something different, but I didn't know what it was and then I got over it. And then my life started going great.
34:09 Andrew Santino? Wow.
34:10 Speaker 04 Great. So I think there is part of me that thinks I may have like died in my sleep and like shifted timelines or whatever.
34:15 Andrew Santino? Or it's exactly what you needed to get you back on track.
34:18 Speaker 04 Totally.
34:18 Andrew Santino? Thank you, China. Can you say that to the camera?
34:20 Speaker 04 Thank you, China.
34:21 Andrew Santino? Thank you, China, for all that you've done for us. You scared us into oblivion and you gave PD USA a career.
34:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
34:27 Andrew Santino? I mean.
34:28 Speaker 04 I mean, not, no.
34:30 Andrew Santino? You should go pay homage. You should go back to, uh.
34:32 Speaker 04 Covid was a big win for me.
34:35 Andrew Santino? Covid was a big W.
34:36 Speaker 04 Oh, my God.
34:37 Andrew Santino? A lot of people took a loss. You took a big win.
34:38 Speaker 04 Big time. Nothing like, it was everything. It was everything.
34:42 Andrew Santino? Damn, repping Wuhan hard, dude, huh?
34:45 Speaker 04 I just, I don't know. I'm a real like distracted, like thought-loopy, neurotic guy that's really affected by my environment.
34:54 Andrew Santino? Right.
34:54 Speaker 04 And so it's like, as soon as I knew like what it was gonna be, and like what was gonna happen, and it was gonna be like that for a while, and just like quiet, and everyone's kinda standing aside, and no one's gonna work, I like, I was kinda like, oh damn, I'm gonna like absolutely crush this.
35:08 Andrew Santino? You were stoked for that.
35:10 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
35:11 Andrew Santino? That's cool. Dude, it did help. I mean, it helped, you know, me and Bobby Lee's show Bad Friends grew because of Covid, because people were at home. People were watching it.
35:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:18 Andrew Santino? People were just inside, and we were providing another form of entertainment, like, just like what you did. It was like, here's a form of entertainment you can watch every single week to get through a shitty week if you're having a shitty week.
35:28 Speaker 04 Right.
35:28 Andrew Santino? And we did it to kinda keep ourselves entertained.
35:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:30 Andrew Santino? It was like him and I wanted to do a project together, and then we were just like, well, great, we can just do this the whole time that we can't go work anyway.
35:38 Speaker 04 Right.
35:38 Andrew Santino? So we might as well create new entertainment on the internet.
35:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:41 Andrew Santino? And it just kind of worked, you know. So I also thank Wuhan. Thank you, Wuhan.
35:44 Speaker 04 Thank you.
35:45 Andrew Santino? Thank you, Wuhan. Very much appreciated.
35:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:48 Andrew Santino? Okay, be honest, as a Chicago boy, um, you see these, look at these, uh, these.
35:53 Speaker 04 Cool.
35:53 Andrew Santino? Couple, isn't that nice?
35:54 Speaker 04 It's the best, I think it's the best flag.
35:56 Andrew Santino? It's the best flag of all the flags.
35:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:58 Andrew Santino? It's the greatest flag.
36:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:00 Andrew Santino? Uh, it's got a lot of white in it.
36:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:02 Andrew Santino? It's, uh.
36:03 Speaker 04 Oh, no, no, no.
36:03 Andrew Santino? No, no, no, no, no, no. That's Trump said that. I didn't say any of that shit. It's a, it is a great, it's such a great city, although the never-ending debate, this, this, this asinine debate about.
36:16 Andrew Santino? You know, deep dish pizza.
36:17 Speaker 04 Mm hmm.
36:18 Andrew Santino? Do you like it?
36:18 Speaker 04 I do, very much, yeah.
36:20 Andrew Santino? Do you, do you like tavern style pizza? You know? Square cut, round tavern style, thin crust? That's Chicago. That's actually Chicago pizza.
36:29 Speaker 04 That's Chicago, I mean, I, I'm like Lou Malnati's and I like.
36:32 Andrew Santino? You're a big Lou's guy.
36:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:33 Andrew Santino? No Giordano's for you, right?
36:35 Speaker 04 Lou's all the way.
36:36 Andrew Santino? And then Pizzeria Uno, Pizza Uno was the thing that everyone kind of pushed on me outside of Chicago. People would ask about it. I was like, we didn't even like that shit as a kid.
36:43 Speaker 04 Right, yeah.
36:43 Andrew Santino? I didn't even give a fuck about it.
36:44 Speaker 04 I get the same thing.
36:45 Andrew Santino? It was in the frozen aisle.
36:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:47 Andrew Santino? That's how I saw it in my mind.
36:48 Speaker 04 These days it's loser, Pequod's and like that.
36:51 Andrew Santino? Pequod's is the best. Well, Pequod's, you can get tavern style pizza.
36:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:53 Andrew Santino? But you never get it. You like the deep.
36:55 Speaker 04 I like the deep dish, yeah.
36:56 Andrew Santino? Well, you're skinny, you can handle it.
36:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:58 Andrew Santino? Wait till you get fat, dude. Wait till you become a fat lazy dad.
37:00 Speaker 04 I'm trying, I'm trying to, I've been trying to put on weight my entire life. I just started taking creatine.
37:05 Andrew Santino? That's cute, dude.
37:06 Speaker 04 And using ChatGPT to work out.
37:08 Andrew Santino? What is it telling you?
37:10 Speaker 04 Everything good. It's fucking awesome.
37:12 Andrew Santino? You're just saying, tell me what to do today?
37:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:14 Andrew Santino? And then it tells you what to do?
37:15 Speaker 04 I told it my goal is like what I want, I was like, I want to get to like one seventy by like X amount of time. And this is what like I've kind of been doing, like how should I like dial in my routine? And it's got me on a six day a week regimen and I'm sore and it's working.
37:30 Andrew Santino? So you're working out every day?
37:32 Speaker 04 Uh, six days a week, yeah.
37:33 Andrew Santino? That's almost every day.
37:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:34 Andrew Santino? Give or take. I mean, God's day, you gotta take off. Cause you're going to church every Sunday, yeah?
37:37 Speaker 04 Exactly, yeah. I do three on, three, three on, one off.
37:41 Andrew Santino? Three on, one off?
37:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:42 Andrew Santino? Wow.
37:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:43 Andrew Santino? Are you doing cardio? Are you doing weightlifting? What are you doing?
37:46 Speaker 04 Weightlifting, like a push day, pull day, and then a leg day.
37:48 Andrew Santino? Damn, dog, you're going, you're doing it.
37:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:50 Andrew Santino? Somebody wants to be buff daddy, huh?
37:52 Speaker 04 Cause I trust the fucking AI.
37:55 Andrew Santino? You trust the AI?
37:56 Speaker 04 I really do. It's doing me right.
37:59 Andrew Santino? You think this is potentially dangerous for our future or this is all good? Who cares?
38:03 Speaker 04 Sure, but like, I'm not, I can't do anything about it, so I might as well just get my body right, you know?
38:07 Andrew Santino? I know, I had the same conversation with my physical therapist this morning. We talked about this when we were working out. I was like, cause he's like, why did you just search that? You could just ask ChatGPT. And I thought, I don't know, man, I just feel, feel like I'm doing analog.
38:19 Speaker 04 I'm.
38:20 Andrew Santino? I can't go digital yet. I just can't go all the fucking way. Something about it scares me. I mean, I know it's real, it's already here, I can't. But there's something about it, it's like saying, um. I know I can do nothing about it.
38:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:33 Andrew Santino? But if, but my little part makes me happy, right? Okay, how about this? You're never gonna change the climate. You know when somebody's like, climate change is real and
38:41 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:41 Andrew Santino? global warming, and you're like, sure dude.
38:43 Speaker 04 Right.
38:44 Andrew Santino? You'd have to talk to fucking ExxonMobil to help out.
38:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:47 Andrew Santino? You'd have to stop the, the, the, the trillions of pounds of waste that are being foisted into the air.
38:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:54 Andrew Santino? I don't think I'm gonna change it.
38:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:56 Andrew Santino? But, but I still fucking recycle.
38:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:58 Andrew Santino? Do you know what I mean?
38:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:59 Andrew Santino? That's how I feel about ChatGPT. I'm like, I, I, I know it's already there, but it's like, I still don't wanna do it. I still, I'm still not in.
39:05 Speaker 04 I think I'm like, this is so obviously not, this is it, it's over.
39:11 Andrew Santino? Oh, this is, you, you don't think it's over?
39:12 Speaker 04 Oh, no, I think like, life, life is over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm just gonna like, get, like, really good at cooking and try and get jacked.
39:19 Andrew Santino? Fuck yeah.
39:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:20 Andrew Santino? I mean, dude, honestly, that's, that's genuinely, I get it.
39:23 Speaker 04 I'm texting it like eighteen times a day about like, I was just like, I'm gonna get smart. I'm gonna do all the things that I was never able to do, cuz like, I have like a learning disability or whatever.
39:31 Andrew Santino? You do?
39:32 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, I, yeah, school was not good for me.
39:34 Andrew Santino? What was your learning disa-, what was your disability?
39:35 Speaker 04 Uh, just, I don't know. I just like needed extra time on shit.
39:39 Andrew Santino? Oh, okay.
39:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, never officially diagnosed.
39:41 Andrew Santino? Let's do it today.
39:42 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah.
39:43 Andrew Santino? Give me a learning disability test. No, come on. He looked up for a hot second. My cone was like, ooh, we've done stuff like this before.
39:49 Speaker 04 I was taking math in like, in the basement with the emotionally disturbed kids.
39:53 Andrew Santino? Now, were you emotionally disturbed, or you just didn't absorb knowledge as well?
39:56 Speaker 04 I just didn't absorb knowledge as well.
39:57 Andrew Santino? But you seem like a super well-adjusted adult.
39:59 Speaker 04 Sure, yeah.
40:00 Andrew Santino? So this didn't affect you in a negative way?
40:01 Speaker 04 I just think whatever intelligence that's, that school requires, like, I don't have that, like, specific brand.
40:09 Andrew Santino? I wasn't good in school, but you have, but you, but, but you, you're very articulate and you are intelligent, so clearly, this is the problem with school and America in general, and I can only speak for America. I was so fucking bad in school and they would always say the same thing. I don't know if this applies to you. They would say, "Man, if he could just focus his energy."
40:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:29 Andrew Santino? He'd be good.
40:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:30 Andrew Santino? But I wanted to make stuff or talk about stuff or fuck with shit. I wanted to like feel something.
40:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:37 Andrew Santino? And I felt like school was, was without feeling. It felt numb. School was very numb.
40:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:43 Andrew Santino? But like when I disrupted a class and told a story that I heard or I did something to like energize people, that gave me life, right?
40:52 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Did they put you on like Adderall or anything?
40:55 Andrew Santino? No, it's interesting. They tried, right? My mother refused.
40:58 Speaker 04 Same?
40:58 Andrew Santino? Yeah, my mom was like, "I don't want my kid on some bullshit."
41:00 Speaker 04 God bless him.
41:01 Andrew Santino? He's a kid.
41:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:02 Andrew Santino? Yeah, he's a fucking too much of a kid. Some kids are quiet, some kids are rambunctious, some, you know, like, some kids are fat, some kids are skinny. Like, I think the idea that everyone should be the same, and by the way, this is a very philosophical conversation, because I think this applies to adulthood as well. The idea that we should all think and feel the same about everything
41:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:20 Andrew Santino? is fucking crazy.
41:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:21 Andrew Santino? That's fucking crazy.
41:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:22 Andrew Santino? We shouldn't.
41:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:23 Andrew Santino? Politically, socially, economically, whatever you want to feel.
41:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:27 Andrew Santino? I think I may not like how you feel.
41:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:30 Andrew Santino? But I don't like this idea that we should all feel one way about it. Like, we all agree that's wrong, right? It's like,
41:35 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
41:35 Andrew Santino? What do you mean? Unless it's fucking so extreme.
41:39 Speaker 04 Right.
41:40 Andrew Santino? Murder. You know, it's like, well, and by the way, what did, you know, what did the guy do to deserve it?
41:45 Speaker 04 Right.
41:46 Andrew Santino? What did he do to deserve it?
41:47 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
41:47 Andrew Santino? Could you ever murder?
41:49 Speaker 04 Uh, no.
41:50 Andrew Santino? Never.
41:50 Speaker 04 Which is good, because I-
41:51 Andrew Santino? What if somebody hurt your wife?
41:53 Speaker 04 I couldn't, I don't think I could murder.
41:55 Andrew Santino? No way. Somebody, someone attacked your wife and he got up in your face and he goes, "What are you gonna do about it, PD USA?"
42:01 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, I'd murder him.
42:03 Andrew Santino? There it is. I knew, I was waiting for it, dude.
42:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:07 Andrew Santino? I was hoping he would say that.
42:08 Speaker 04 Yep.
42:09 Andrew Santino? Alright, well, I hope that never happens to you. I hope you never have to encounter somebody who hurts your wife so much that you have to murder them.
42:16 Speaker 04 I hope so, too.
42:16 Andrew Santino? But if you do murder somebody, will I help you get out of it?
42:20 Speaker 04 I don't know.
42:21 Andrew Santino? Yep.
42:21 Speaker 04 Thank you. Thank you. Oh, okay.
42:23 Andrew Santino? Basement Brothers gotta stick together, dude.
42:25 Speaker 04 That makes me feel better.
42:26 Andrew Santino? I never had this experience that you're having, but I did have friends that were in this world.
42:30 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
42:31 Andrew Santino? And all I saw them as was- Uh, people that hated school.
42:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, I think you just hate the things that you're bad at as a kid. And it's just like, I just, I don't know, I couldn't wake up at, at seven o'clock and start learning math at fucking eight o'clock while I'm, while I got four hours of sleep, you know?
42:51 Andrew Santino? Even if I got eight hours of sleep, I don't, I fucking hate math.
42:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:54 Andrew Santino? What if I'm, what if I hate math?
42:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:55 Andrew Santino? That's like the first question every kid should be like, so what if I hate math?
42:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:59 Andrew Santino? Mrs. Miller, what if I fucking hate math?
43:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:01 Andrew Santino? Isn't that okay?
43:02 Speaker 04 Right.
43:02 Andrew Santino? And the idea, you know, this is such a cliche joke, but when I was a kid.
43:07 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
43:08 Andrew Santino? In the early eighteen hundreds, the big joke was always, well, you better learn your multiplication and division and blah, blah. You're not gonna wa- you're not gonna have a calculator in your pocket all day.
43:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:21 Andrew Santino? The fuck I'm not?
43:22 Speaker 04 I got way more than that now.
43:23 Andrew Santino? Now I got something that's gonna teach me how to cook and get jacked.
43:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:25 Andrew Santino? Fuck you, Ms. Miller.
43:27 Speaker 04 I mean.
43:27 Andrew Santino? You did no shit, bitch.
43:28 Speaker 04 Back to the AI thing.
43:31 Andrew Santino? Miss Miller's gone, she's way gone, rest in peace.
43:33 Speaker 04 I, I feel good now because it's just like I've been able to make a career out of the creative shit and kinda like going outside the box and like the, the normal regiment and stuff. But I always would get frustrated with myself by not being able to do the, the normal path type shit. Which really nice now is that I can just like ask AI a bunch of questions on how to like be a normal person.
43:55 Andrew Santino? Ah.
43:56 Speaker 04 And.
43:56 Andrew Santino? You're doing pretty fine.
43:57 Speaker 04 And it's, it's not, it makes me feel real good.
44:00 Andrew Santino? How to be normal by AI?
44:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, how to fucking cook and how to like grocery shop and like how to.
44:05 Andrew Santino? But don't you think being abnormal is kind of a good quality? It's probably why you're so artistic.
44:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
44:11 Andrew Santino? So you want some of that abnormality to stay, you don't wanna normalize yourself to where you're like an average guy who does the average thing.
44:18 Speaker 04 No, but just basic survival stuff, I'm talking about like, I couldn't like shop, like go grocery shopping. Like I get overwhelmed, I get like, you know what I mean, stuff that like, I need like lists made for me and I need calendars and I need like structure. In order to like do day to day tasks.
44:34 Andrew Santino? I understand this, but that's good that people exist and things exist to do, you have a manager?
44:38 Speaker 04 I've got a manager for sure, but even, but even like day to day like life admin stuff, like I would frustrate people around me by just like not being able to like take care of myself in, in like a normal way. Um, so I don't, even like asking too many questions, like I would always ask, ask questions first, figure it out later.
44:56 Andrew Santino? Ask away.
44:56 Speaker 04 And now I'm just asking chat GPT.
44:58 Andrew Santino? Let's hear, ask me something.
44:59 Speaker 04 Um.
45:01 Speaker 04 What, when did Donnie Darko come out?
45:04 Andrew Santino? In October.
45:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:06 Andrew Santino? Yeah, October.
45:07 Speaker 04 I thought it was September.
45:07 Andrew Santino? I thought it was September 11th.
45:08 Speaker 04 I went my whole, I went my whole life believing that.
45:11 Andrew Santino? Yeah, and that's, and that's.
45:12 Speaker 05 Well, the one of the things, they had to change the marketing because it featured, it was all about the plane crash and stuff. So that, it.
45:18 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
45:18 Speaker 05 It screwed it over in the box office.
45:20 Speaker 04 Gotcha.
45:20 Speaker 05 Nobody wanted, it already had a limited release because it released in January at Sundance. And then it got a wide release on October 26th.
45:25 Speaker 04 Ah, so September 11th did fuck with it.
45:28 Speaker 05 September 11th did fuck with it because when it initially premiered, it got, you know, some good hype. And then when it got people, didn't, they didn't distribute it.
45:33 Andrew Santino? Turns out, September 11th fucked with a lot of stuff, man.
45:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:37 Andrew Santino? It wasn't really a good point in our, in our history. And every time I go to New York and I see that, the one World Trade Center.
45:43 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
45:44 Andrew Santino? I do think of what the imagery was like when there was two buildings. And I don't think one was enough. We should have built two again. Why don't we build two?
45:51 Speaker 04 I don't know.
45:51 Andrew Santino? You built one to make up for two?
45:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, those, those are the.
45:54 Andrew Santino? That means they win.
45:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
45:57 Andrew Santino? They won. We should have built three. We should have built fucking three.
46:00 Speaker 04 Totally.
46:01 Andrew Santino? Actually, we should have built two, two on, two small ones, one big one, and then two on the other side. Just a big middle finger.
46:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
46:09 Andrew Santino? Right? Pointed right back at them to say, try it again, bitch.
46:12 Speaker 04 It's, it's never been more obvious that in the, in the aftermath of September 11th, the big winners were, uh, the Middle East.
46:20 Andrew Santino? The big winners.
46:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
46:21 Andrew Santino? The big winners.
46:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's clear, clear as day.
46:24 Andrew Santino? Clear as day. George W. Bush, thank you, Doug E.
46:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
46:28 Andrew Santino? Uh, please hit the link below for George W. Bush's 9/11 paintings we're selling, uh, code is whiskey. Have you seen Bush's paintings, by the way? You know, he's a big painter. Do you know about this?
46:37 Speaker 04 I, that was a thing, he paints dogs, right?
46:40 Andrew Santino? He likes dogs.
46:41 Speaker 04 Uh-huh.
46:42 Andrew Santino? Oh, man, that's so funny. What's the first thought I had? What's the first thought I had about paintings of dogs? Come on, you should know. You're a film guy. This dog's looking at.
46:50 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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48:12 Speaker 04 What do you want with me?
48:13 Andrew Santino? What do you want with that? Is that a guy looking this way? The dog's looking this way? You know what this is?
48:16 Speaker 04 Mm-mm.
48:17 Andrew Santino? Goodfellas? There's a great painting. There's a great painting in the scene in Goodfellas.
48:22 Speaker 04 I love that movie.
48:23 Andrew Santino? It's a great movie.
48:24 Speaker 04 That movie, perfect movie, Departed, perfect movie. Just rewatched The Town.
48:29 Andrew Santino? The Town?
48:30 Speaker 04 Bad movie.
48:31 Andrew Santino? Didn't like it.
48:31 Speaker 04 Doesn't add up. I used to like it. I actually was like, this movie's awesome. I remember as a kid, rewatched it. It's bad.
48:37 Andrew Santino? Well, you know what it's like? It's gratuitous.
48:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:43 Andrew Santino? Which I think is part of the point of it.
48:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:45 Andrew Santino? Right, the storyline itself.
48:47 Speaker 04 Uh-huh.
48:47 Andrew Santino? Right, yeah, not great. You're right.
48:49 Speaker 04 And like Ben Affleck's vibe, I just like didn't buy, I didn't buy him as like...
48:54 Andrew Santino? A tough guy gangster?
48:55 Speaker 04 A tough guy gangster that's also just like really sensitive, and then just like also kills people. I don't know. It just, the whole thing like didn't work.
49:04 Andrew Santino? I understand.
49:04 Speaker 04 There was one scene where like the love interest, the girl, was just like, "What, like, what happened with your mom?" And he opens the story, would just be like, "It was the sound that woke me up." It's just like tries to be all like storyteller-y about it. It's just like, this guy wouldn't do that. He would just be like, "My mom left." I don't know. I just, I didn't like it.
49:27 Andrew Santino? You didn't like it?
49:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:29 Andrew Santino? And I get it. Ben is actually a big fan of the show. What is that? Is that Putin?
49:33 Speaker 05 It's one of Bush's. Bush paints a lot of people.
49:35 Andrew Santino? Bush paints Putin as well? And who has that left him? Is that, uh, is that Ellen DeGeneres? Can you imagine? He paints like dictators and then Ellen? He just puts up fucking a bunch of old dictators and then also Ellen?
49:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:47 Andrew Santino? Yeah, no, I, I understand the town is not your vibe. Departed, very, very good, though.
49:50 Speaker 04 I mean, I could watch that movie every day.
49:52 Andrew Santino? That's character in The Departed. Who?
49:53 Speaker 04 Uh, Leo.
49:54 Andrew Santino? Really?
49:54 Speaker 04 That's How I Want to Die, yeah.
49:56 Andrew Santino? You don't think it's Frank Costello?
49:57 Speaker 04 Uh, no. Leo, for sure.
49:59 Andrew Santino? Wow.
50:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:00 Andrew Santino? You don't think it's Frank?
50:01 Speaker 04 Uh-uh. I think it's Leo, for sure.
50:04 Andrew Santino? Wow, you think Leo's a better actor?
50:06 Speaker 04 Oh, no. But I, I just think he's a good character.
50:10 Speaker 05 She felt funny.
50:11 Andrew Santino? She felt funny. I think he's so good in that movie. That's probably one of the best movies I think he's ever made. Yeah, Leo's good, but I, but Leo's very Leo.
50:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:19 Andrew Santino? In that movie.
50:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:20 Andrew Santino? And I guess the reason I like, um, the depiction of Frank Costello is that, uh... Jack just did something so different in that movie. It was really weird. It was, yeah, like, he was comical. When he was making fun of the priests in that scene when he slides them the... It's just there's something about he was so not how he usually is.
50:41 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
50:41 Andrew Santino? That I loved it. Leo's pretty consistently Leo. He's the best actor probably of our generation.
50:45 Speaker 05 But a lot of people do say that is a turning point in Leo's career.
50:49 Andrew Santino? Yeah, wow, well...
50:50 Speaker 05 Before that, he was more pretty boy, and after that, he's the more...
50:52 Andrew Santino? Yeah, but he was still a pretty tough boy, dude. He was still a hot guy who was tough.
50:55 Speaker 04 I like Leo in that movie because I think about the character and the stakes of his life. Like, when I get like really nervous because I get stage fright.
51:03 Andrew Santino? You do?
51:04 Speaker 04 Oh, big, big time.
51:05 Andrew Santino? So before you go out in front of a big crowd, you get nervous?
51:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:07 Andrew Santino? How big?
51:08 Speaker 04 Uh...
51:08 Andrew Santino? What have you played?
51:09 Speaker 04 I've played stadiums. I've played in front of 60,000 people opening for Blink before.
51:13 Andrew Santino? Does that fuck you up?
51:14 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, big time. It all fucks me up, and it hasn't gotten better.
51:17 Andrew Santino? Even the tiny ones?
51:18 Speaker 04 Yeah. The tiny ones are worse, because they're like, it's just people right in front of you.
51:21 Andrew Santino? What do you do to curb the anxiety?
51:22 Speaker 04 I think about Leo in The Departed and the type of stakes in his life and how nervous he must have been all the time. And then I think about my situation and, um, I feel like a pussy in, in a way that's motivating.
51:35 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
51:36 Speaker 04 And good.
51:37 Andrew Santino? You're not a pussy.
51:37 Speaker 04 Thank you.
51:38 Andrew Santino? You're human.
51:39 Speaker 04 Thanks, yeah.
51:39 Andrew Santino? Next time you get nervous, ask ChatGPT how you should deal with it.
51:42 Speaker 04 Oh, I do, yeah.
51:43 Andrew Santino? What does it say?
51:44 Speaker 04 Uh, I.
51:45 Andrew Santino? Ask it right now.
51:46 Speaker 04 I asked it last night. I was just like, am I peeing too much?
51:50 Andrew Santino? Am I peeing too much?
51:51 Speaker 04 Yeah, at night. I was like, how do I deal with this?
51:54 Andrew Santino? How many times do you pee at night?
51:55 Speaker 04 Um, like twice. Enough to like fuck up my whole night.
51:59 Andrew Santino? You wake up twice to pee?
52:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:01 Andrew Santino? And stop drinking water before 10pm?
52:03 Speaker 04 Uh, I don't know. Well, this creatine is making me piss a lot.
52:06 Andrew Santino? Creatine will make you pee a lot.
52:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, uh, I asked it to how to deal with it and it gave me some pretty good steps. It was just like, it's not a big deal. A lot of people deal with this. Don't worry about it. It's all in your head.
52:18 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
52:18 Speaker 04 Here's a couple of steps, which is nice.
52:20 Andrew Santino? Stop being a bitch.
52:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
52:22 Andrew Santino? That's basically what it said.
52:23 Speaker 04 Kind of, yeah. But in a very tender, tender way.
52:26 Andrew Santino? So does it speak to you? Do you have it talk to you?
52:29 Speaker 04 No, no. I just have it.
52:30 Andrew Santino? I like the ones that talk. I think that's even scarier.
52:32 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah. I don't know. Yeah.
52:35 Andrew Santino? It's common.
52:36 Speaker 04 For sure. I'm not worried about it. I'm excited.
52:38 Andrew Santino? You're excited to invest in the future.
52:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:40 Andrew Santino? And good for you, dude. This is the end, though.
52:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. Well, I'm gonna go both ways. I'm gonna like, gonna, gonna go all in on, on AI and then also just like, get rid of my, just like have a disconnect from material goods, like live out in the woods, but also have AI.
52:55 Andrew Santino? Live out in the woods with AI?
52:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, and just get rid of the center.
52:58 Andrew Santino? It's like, I need, I, I wanna live in the woods, but I need, I need fiber.
53:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
53:03 Andrew Santino? Yeah, I get it. You need good wifi if you're gonna use AI in the woods.
53:08 Speaker 04 That's true.
53:09 Andrew Santino? See, I understand this getting away thing. In fact, I do think all these years we mocked bunker people, you know?
53:14 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
53:14 Andrew Santino? Doomsday people.
53:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:16 Andrew Santino? Now more than ever.
53:17 Speaker 04 I'm about it.
53:17 Andrew Santino? They're, they're real.
53:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:19 Andrew Santino? 25 years ago, it's like, shut the fuck up, dude.
53:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
53:22 Andrew Santino? Now you're like, hey, where's that bunker again?
53:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:25 Andrew Santino? I might wanna go.
53:25 Speaker 04 Do you feel like shit's like way fucked up right now, like more than it's ever been? Or did you feel like that's kind of the news? And it's just like?
53:34 Andrew Santino? I think this is the same as ever. I think the internet gives us more weight to, uh, things that are happening. I mean, here's the, here's the biggest joke of all is like, you know, the LA riots that were happening downtown because of this Kings protest, all this, whatever the fuck you wanna say.
53:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:48 Andrew Santino? Right? It's an inflated storyline. It's media, so it's gonna be bigger than you think.
53:52 Speaker 04 Right.
53:52 Andrew Santino? But there, but meanwhile, right on the other side of the world, there's like true war bombs, like.
53:58 Speaker 04 That's the shit that's bad, bad, bad. Yeah.
54:01 Andrew Santino? Yeah, so it's just kinda crazy that you're like, this, this isn't as real as we think it is, which means,
54:05 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
54:05 Andrew Santino? my point being, it's always been this fucked up.
54:07 Speaker 04 Right.
54:07 Andrew Santino? You just have to see, you have to see it now.
54:09 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
54:10 Andrew Santino? So, you know. By the way, while there's bombs being dropped and people dying, someone is still going down a slide somewhere.
54:17 Speaker 04 Right, right, yeah.
54:19 Andrew Santino? You know, like somewhere, someone is on, a kid is on a swing.
54:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:22 Andrew Santino? And somewhere, someone is sitting on a surfboard, stoned, ready for the morning ride.
54:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:27 Andrew Santino? And someone else is at a funeral. So it's like, the world is always collapsing.
54:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:32 Andrew Santino? But it's also renewing.
54:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:34 Andrew Santino? And the birth rates are low, which means we are going to die out, which is kinda sick.
54:38 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
54:39 Andrew Santino? You know, we started the end.
54:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:41 Andrew Santino? It's cool to watch.
54:42 Speaker 04 I don't know about that part.
54:43 Andrew Santino? You don't know about that?
54:44 Speaker 04 No.
54:44 Andrew Santino? Yeah, the birth rates are very low. In fact, I think we're reaching like, uh...
54:49 Andrew Santino? Japan and, maybe it's China or Japan, has like the lowest birth rate they've had in a long, long time. Our birth rates are down. It's pretty, I think it's supposed to be pretty scary, is what they say, right? What is it about, China's birth rates are bad?
55:02 Speaker 05 I mean, it looks like a lot of China, US, they're all down.
55:05 Andrew Santino? Yeah, they're all way, way down.
55:06 Speaker 04 Oh, shoot.
55:07 Andrew Santino? Yeah, this is dangerous. This is why you should be impregnating your, your spouse.
55:10 Speaker 04 Okay.
55:10 Andrew Santino? Please, dude, get out of here. Go. Go do it now.
55:13 Speaker 04 Cool.
55:14 Andrew Santino? Think about this show while you're doing it later.
55:17 Speaker 04 Wait, do you have a kid?
55:18 Andrew Santino? No kids.
55:18 Speaker 04 No kids?
55:19 Andrew Santino? No, no kids, no kids. I don't have a penis. I cut it off six or seven months ago. It's actually framed in the office there. Just, you know, you know how Notre Dame football players, they hit that sign, play like a champion?
55:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
55:29 Andrew Santino? Everyone's supposed to hit the penis on the way into the studio.
55:31 Speaker 04 That's cool. I'm jealous. That, I think that's where my pee thing comes from. Like, sometimes like, do I actually have to pee, or do I just have a penis?
55:38 Andrew Santino? You just have a penis. And sometimes it needs to just, it's trying to talk.
55:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
55:42 Andrew Santino? Sometimes it just wants to have a conversation.
55:44 Speaker 04 That's, yeah.
55:45 Andrew Santino? Penises get lonely too, bud.
55:46 Speaker 04 Yeah, totally. Yeah, 100%.
55:51 Andrew Santino? So tell, say this, plug, uh, plug this album that's gonna come out, because this show will, will try to parallel it on, when the album drops. And what's the name of the album, by the way?
55:58 Speaker 04 The album's called The Yips.
56:00 Andrew Santino? The Yips?
56:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:01 Andrew Santino? Wow, why is it called The Yips?
56:02 Speaker 04 It's just, it's the sports term, when you just lose your cognitive ability to do something that you've always been able to do.
56:09 Andrew Santino? Right.
56:09 Speaker 04 You just fucking lose it mentally. Uh...
56:12 Andrew Santino? Do you think many people in your, in your fanbase would understand where that comes from?
56:16 Speaker 04 Totally.
56:16 Andrew Santino? Okay, rad.
56:17 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh, I'm a big, uh, depressed white guy. Those are my guys.
56:20 Andrew Santino? Sick, yeah. Yeah, that's great.
56:21 Speaker 04 In their 30s.
56:22 Andrew Santino? Cause we, cause you, you don't like golf. I heard that at the beginning.
56:25 Speaker 04 I don't like golf, but, I mean, I love baseball. I love baseball.
56:28 Andrew Santino? Golf is a big term, yips is a huge term in golf.
56:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:30 Andrew Santino? When you have the, the yips, when you're chipping, it's, you like stall before you hit the ball.
56:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:34 Andrew Santino? It's really weird. It does, your brain... Uh, it's kinda scary.
56:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:39 Andrew Santino? Cause you're like, I can't believe I can't do this thing, this thing that I've always done before.
56:41 Speaker 04 For sure. So I'm kinda like taking that concept and just applying it to general life vibes. Uh, and we we kinda like created this like world in a bar. It's supposed to be like a northern Wisconsin bar. Like up near like Rhinelander area.
56:56 Andrew Santino? Scotty bars.
56:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, the best, the best. And so it's like the place that you go to when you have the yips. And you get drunk by yourself and try and get yourself out of it. And so it's like a weird, sad, also cathartic world.
57:07 Andrew Santino? Cool.
57:08 Speaker 04 It's fun. Yeah.
57:09 Andrew Santino? You like getting drunk by yourself?
57:10 Speaker 04 Uh, no. The last time I did that was two months ago and then I decided to stop drinking for two months.
57:17 Andrew Santino? Good.
57:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:18 Andrew Santino? You're gonna keep it going, cause you're working out.
57:20 Speaker 04 Exactly.
57:20 Andrew Santino? You wanna see, you see how, and see how in shape and healthy you can get and then have a kid.
57:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:25 Andrew Santino? And then how out of shape and unhealthy you can get when you have a kid.
57:28 Speaker 04 Sure.
57:28 Andrew Santino? It's kinda the goal.
57:29 Speaker 04 Sure.
57:29 Andrew Santino? That's the American dream. Even ChatGPT would agree with me.
57:31 Speaker 04 Definitely. Yeah, yeah.
57:32 Andrew Santino? You'll get fat.
57:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:34 Andrew Santino? You'll eat what they eat.
57:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:35 Andrew Santino? You won't have time for exercise or creative activities.
57:39 Speaker 04 Yeah. I mean, it'd be nice to hear, it sounds like permission, which is cool.
57:43 Andrew Santino? Get fat.
57:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:45 Andrew Santino? Fuck math.
57:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:47 Andrew Santino? Get fat.
57:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:48 Andrew Santino? Yeah, I think that is the, I think that is the future is uh, is cleaning out ourselves a little bit more. I think we gotta do that in bigger spouts, you know? I need to do it for sure.
57:57 Speaker 04 Big time. I'm feeling good.
57:58 Andrew Santino? That's where the yips come from, by the way.
57:59 Speaker 04 Totally.
58:00 Andrew Santino? I think they come from just clogging our system up with bullshit.
58:03 Speaker 04 Totally.
58:04 Andrew Santino? Your clear mind won't allow it.
58:06 Speaker 04 We, and we got the Chicago thing too, where it's just like, I don't think there's a region in the world that celebrates poisoning yourself as much as.
58:14 Andrew Santino? They're great at it.
58:14 Speaker 04 Chicago, yeah.
58:15 Andrew Santino? Wisconsin's pretty close. Minnesota's not far off. I think everywhere in the Midwest, because we dealt with such terrible winters.
58:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:21 Andrew Santino? And uh, and it's not just the weather, it's also like communally, the culture is drown, drown yourself.
58:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:29 Andrew Santino? It's a little bit like cultural.
58:30 Speaker 04 And eat a lot of red meat.
58:32 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
58:33 Speaker 04 And it's healthy.
58:34 Andrew Santino? It's healthy to eat red meat, dude. It is, sure. The idea that we know we don't know.
58:38 Speaker 04 Right.
58:39 Andrew Santino? Uh, but we're all gonna die very soon of something much more tragic than we could ever imagine.
58:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, cool.
58:44 Andrew Santino? You know what I mean? And who cares, dude? Speed up the rock.
58:47 Speaker 04 Exactly.
58:48 Andrew Santino? Wouldn't it be a bummer, though, if the rock hits us, but it only hits like, it decimates only so much of the world, but doesn't take out everybody?
58:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:56 Andrew Santino? What a bummer.
58:56 Speaker 04 Uh, I don't know. Sometimes I watch movies like Twenty Eight Days Later, and I'm like je- a little bit jealous of like, uh, oh, all we gotta do is survive. Like, those, that's the type of assignment that I feel like I'm pretty good at.
59:08 Andrew Santino? You just said you had to ask ChatGPT for like, normal stuff, though.
59:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, but, but, normal stuff like how to interact with like, modern society.
59:16 Andrew Santino? You said grocery shopping and all that stuff?
59:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, there's no grocery shopping in the apocalypse.
59:20 Andrew Santino? I know, but then you're gonna have to kill and eat things, and you just said murder is not a part of your DNA.
59:23 Speaker 04 I guess.
59:24 Andrew Santino? Unless someone's threatening your wife.
59:25 Speaker 04 But I am good at hiding and staying in a very uncomfortable space for a very long time. I can do that. I can be uncomfortable for a very long time.
59:32 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
59:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
59:33 Andrew Santino? The Anne Frank.
59:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
59:35 Andrew Santino? Pulling out the old Anne Frank on us. Where's Petey? He's Anne Frank-ing it.
59:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
59:40 Andrew Santino? Petey, come down and help us kill something already. I'm Frank-ing, leave me alone.
59:46 Speaker 04 I suppose so.
59:47 Andrew Santino? That's alright. Name your next album Anne Frank.
59:50 Speaker 04 Okay.
59:50 Andrew Santino? Do it, dude. Can you imagine the sales?
59:53 Speaker 04 I think it would make a splash.
59:56 Speaker 04 Hey, give me some press. No, I, no one, no one covers my shit.
1:00:00 Andrew Santino? Someone should cover your shit.
1:00:01 Speaker 04 Thank you.
1:00:02 Andrew Santino? Best cover song ever.
1:00:03 Speaker 04 Best cover song ever?
1:00:04 Andrew Santino? Yeah, what's the best cover song?
1:00:05 Speaker 04 Like, potential, or like, the cover version of a song?
1:00:08 Andrew Santino? Give me either, but I was saying like, the best cover of a song for you.
1:00:11 Speaker 04 Uh, best cover of a song is Pete Townshend's live cover of Save It For Later by The English Beat.
1:00:17 Andrew Santino? Save It For Later?
1:00:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:00:18 Andrew Santino? Wow.
1:00:19 Speaker 04 It's incredible.
1:00:19 Andrew Santino? You lo- you think it's perfect?
1:00:21 Speaker 04 I think it's perfect. I think it's better, I think it's better than the original.
1:00:23 Andrew Santino? Which is my favorite for, that's the next album, Better Than The Original.
1:00:26 Speaker 04 Oh, that, I actually would do that.
1:00:28 Andrew Santino? That's a rad name.
1:00:29 Speaker 04 Okay, that's great.
1:00:30 Andrew Santino? Because it is, some things are better than the original. I will say, what? What were you gonna say?
1:00:34 Speaker 05 What are your favorite covers?
1:00:36 Andrew Santino? My favorite, well, I would say I go through phases, there's a lot of them, but I would say, Nirvana's "In Bloom", is that what you're referring to? Oh, is that referring to?
1:00:46 Speaker 05 Oh, yeah.
1:00:48 Speaker 04 Album covers.
1:00:49 Speaker 05 I thought you were talking about c- song covers.
1:00:50 Speaker 04 I thought you were talking about covers of songs.
1:00:52 Andrew Santino? I am.
1:00:53 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:00:54 Andrew Santino? I am. I was about to finish it, but I thought that's what you were referring to, me saying, Nirvana's song "In Bloom",
1:00:59 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:00:59 Andrew Santino? Uh, Sturgill Simpson.
1:01:02 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:01:02 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's a great, yeah.
1:01:03 Andrew Santino? And it's maybe one of the greatest songs I've ever heard in my entire life. In fact, this is lore, but I don't know how true this is, because I'm gonna miss, I'm gonna tell the story incorrectly. But apparently because Frances Bean, that's her name, Kurt's daughter, owns the rights to the music.
1:01:17 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:01:17 Andrew Santino? Um, apparently they don't license out any of his shit, they don't want anybody else to do it. And I guess, whether or not this is true, it just sounds beautiful, but I guess Sturgill loved that song, and I either had reached out prior, or the other way around, and had said that I want to make the song, and I know they don't put stuff out, but then he made the song and then gave it to her, just gave it to her, to be like a gift, so to speak, like, I don't care if it ever comes out, but like, I wanted to make this because I love it so much, and then she allowed it to be put out on his album. That may or may not be totally true, there may be pieces of it on the internet that could find the truth to that, but I love that version of the story.
1:01:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:01:54 Andrew Santino? And whether or not that's true, what I can say is true is Nirvana songs are not widely covered.
1:01:59 Speaker 04 Right.
1:02:00 Andrew Santino? You do not hear a lot of Nirvana songs, so I do not, I know they must have some sort of uh, stronghold on licensing out covers, because I don't think they like that kind of shit. Because by the way, wouldn't you think you'd hear a thousand fucking Nirvana covers at this point?
1:02:15 Speaker 04 Totally.
1:02:15 Andrew Santino? And they'd be beat to death, and they'd be terrible.
1:02:17 Speaker 04 They'd be bad.
1:02:18 Andrew Santino? Anyway, "In Bloom" by Sturgill Simpson, maybe one of the greatest songs I've ever heard in my life, it'll make you cry, and make you fucking feel like you're gonna like break through the ice at the same time.
1:02:26 Speaker 04 Epic.
1:02:26 Andrew Santino? It's incre- it's, that's, it's something about it. Now, album covers. What is the greatest album cover imagery? Give me that.
1:02:36 Speaker 04 For me, it's, uh, I love, uh, "The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me" by that brand new album.
1:02:42 Andrew Santino? I gotta see this. I don't know what this is.
1:02:44 Speaker 04 It's just like a Halloween scene.
1:02:46 Andrew Santino? It's a scene from the movie Halloween?
1:02:47 Speaker 04 No, just like, uh, I don't know. For me, it's just the one that sticks out the most.
1:02:52 Andrew Santino? Bring it up.
1:02:53 Speaker 04 Maybe it's because my, it's like my favorite album of all time.
1:02:55 Andrew Santino? Oh, that's very cool.
1:02:56 Speaker 04 I just love it.
1:02:57 Andrew Santino? Say the album clearly again.
1:02:58 Speaker 04 "The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me."
1:03:00 Andrew Santino? "The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me." That's a cool looking album cover.
1:03:03 Speaker 04 That was eighth grade for me.
1:03:05 Andrew Santino? That's, well, that, see, that's, that hits. Well, and you gave me your album and I asked, it's a picture of a family with a dog and I asked if it's your, because it's your album.
1:03:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:03:13 Andrew Santino? And I said, "Is that your family?" And you said, "No, that's just..."
1:03:15 Speaker 04 This is a family.
1:03:15 Andrew Santino? That's just a family.
1:03:16 Speaker 04 Yeah. I write a lot about thinking about like having a family because it's always been something that I've felt incapable of like being good at.
1:03:24 Andrew Santino? And look at you, you're going to be very good at it.
1:03:26 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, well, maybe, we'll see.
1:03:28 Andrew Santino? What's your favorite album cover, Coney?
1:03:31 Speaker 05 Maybe "To Pimp a Butterfly."
1:03:33 Andrew Santino? "To Pimp a Butterfly," that's pretty, yeah, I guess that's okay.
1:03:36 Speaker 05 Or "The Chronic."
1:03:37 Andrew Santino? "The Chronic" is very simple and beautiful.
1:03:39 Speaker 05 But it's a play on the zigzag cover.
1:03:40 Andrew Santino? Yeah, it's pretty beautiful.
1:03:41 Speaker 05 It's iconic, it's so simple and iconic, but "To Pimp a Butterfly" is, it's such a beautiful cover, there's so much symbolism in it.
1:03:46 Andrew Santino? I'll tell you what sticks out pretty hard in my brain, even though it's not, it's nothing,
1:03:52 Andrew Santino? it's nothing too powerful, but Bush's "16 Stone."
1:03:55 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:03:56 Andrew Santino? For some reason, because it was part of my childhood.
1:03:59 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:03:59 Andrew Santino? Show me that album cover. That thing like singed into my, because I saw the CD, it was on like the top of my rack for a while, maybe that's why I kept seeing that. Yeah, I love that.
1:04:08 Speaker 04 That's awesome.
1:04:09 Andrew Santino? Because I love the colorway.
1:04:10 Speaker 04 Is "Glycerin" on that album?
1:04:12 Andrew Santino? "Glycerin" is on that fucking album.
1:04:13 Speaker 04 That song rocks, that was the first song I ever learned how to play on guitar.
1:04:15 Andrew Santino? So good.
1:04:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, insane.
1:04:16 Andrew Santino? Oh, there's something about that simplicity of those old covers that I was like obsessed with.
1:04:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:23 Andrew Santino? Because, and also that's back when you can open up a book in a CD and actually like read about more of the art and they'd all, they have alternative photos and then sometimes the third or fourth photo would be better than the original cover photo. And you're like, "That should have been the cover." And what I would do is I'd fold it, flip it, and then put that as the cover. Did you ever do that?
1:04:38 Speaker 04 Uh-uh.
1:04:38 Andrew Santino? Like "Goldfinger." "Goldfinger."
1:04:40 Speaker 04 Awesome.
1:04:41 Andrew Santino? "Goldfinger" had a great album cover.
1:04:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:43 Andrew Santino? Uh, and they had even more art inside of the book.
1:04:47 Speaker 04 I never got, I just listened to them via Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.
1:04:50 Andrew Santino? Correct.
1:04:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:51 Andrew Santino? Yeah, you never had the, you never had CDs.
1:04:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:53 Andrew Santino? Yeah. Yeah. CDs were fucking rad.
1:04:54 Speaker 04 No, I, I had CDs. I still have CDs.
1:04:56 Andrew Santino? This, yes, yes, Low End Theory, probably one of my favorite album covers.
1:05:00 Speaker 05 Cause that's a real picture. They painted a, painted a model.
1:05:02 Andrew Santino? Of all of the Tribe album covers, this is by far the best. Yes, I agree with that. I do agree with that. That is a beautiful fucking photo.
1:05:09 Speaker 05 Midnight Marauders, though, all the, just other hip hop heads, like all the rappers in the background.
1:05:13 Andrew Santino? I like it, but this one's a little bit more beautiful.
1:05:15 Speaker 05 Yeah.
1:05:15 Andrew Santino? This one's pretty artistic. That's a real photo.
1:05:17 Speaker 04 Are you into more like Bush adjacent, like kinda like butt rock music like that too?
1:05:22 Andrew Santino? I like every, dude, you could, I can name you-
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1:06:45 Andrew Santino? If I touch, I can touch so many weird bases of music.
1:06:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:06:48 Andrew Santino? I'm not saying I'm super knowledgeable about all them, but I, but I like everything from fucking corny pop music in the current era to like, to fucking, again, like a Sturgill, like a soul. And then I like.
1:07:01 Speaker 04 You like Pearl Jam?
1:07:02 Andrew Santino? Uh, yeah, sure. Yeah, I like them. Yeah, I'm not, I don't, I never like fell in love, but I liked them a lot.
1:07:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:07:08 Andrew Santino? You know, uh, I think, I don't know, I like, there isn't a genre that I like dislike.
1:07:13 Speaker 04 Cool.
1:07:13 Andrew Santino? And then I fall in love with little tiny things like, uh, I'm into the, um, I'm, right now I'm into, um, I've been listening to Galt.
1:07:23 Speaker 04 Don't know about it.
1:07:24 Andrew Santino? Name wrong. Uh, Galt McDermott? Am I saying it wrong? Just because my, uh, yeah, Galt McDermott. I've been listening to a lot of Galt McDermott.
1:07:33 Speaker 04 Cool.
1:07:34 Andrew Santino? G A L T. Do you know who this gentleman is?
1:07:36 Speaker 04 No.
1:07:37 Andrew Santino? Okay, listen to this song real fast. We have to cut it out, but like, just so you can hear. Galt McDermott.
1:07:42 Speaker 04 Nice.
1:07:42 Andrew Santino? Don't even know how I found Galt McDermott, but occasionally I'll just stumble upon something and I'll go, like that a lot. And then I'll just listen to their radio.
1:07:49 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
1:07:50 Andrew Santino? For as long as I can.
1:07:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:07:52 Andrew Santino? Spotify or Apple Music?
1:07:54 Speaker 04 Uh, Apple Music.
1:07:55 Andrew Santino? You're wrong, dude. It's Spotify.
1:07:56 Speaker 04 I know, but I'm on my manager's family plan, so that's what I'm doing.
1:08:00 Andrew Santino? That dude that came in?
1:08:01 Speaker 04 No, my, my other manager.
1:08:02 Andrew Santino? Oh, okay, okay. That's okay.
1:08:03 Speaker 04 I got two managers.
1:08:04 Andrew Santino? That guy's handsome.
1:08:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, very handsome.
1:08:06 Andrew Santino? Yeah, you ever?
1:08:08 Speaker 04 Hook up?
1:08:09 Andrew Santino? Whatever.
1:08:09 Speaker 04 No. We've been best friends since, uh, first grade.
1:08:13 Andrew Santino? Oh, so yeah, you definitely have hooked up then. Yeah, if it's been that long, dude, something weird has happened, right? A little sleepover?
1:08:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, Washington DC trip.
1:08:19 Andrew Santino? Peter, Petey, what if we snuggle?
1:08:22 Andrew Santino? Well, I just wanna watch Terminator. Me too, but like, what if we're snuggling while we watch Terminator?
1:08:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, you know how 13-year-olds are. It's really, it's quite odd.
1:08:30 Andrew Santino? So gay.
1:08:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's very gay.
1:08:32 Andrew Santino? It's the gayest.
1:08:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:33 Andrew Santino? You could ever be as a young, a young boy, a young white suburban boy.
1:08:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:38 Andrew Santino? Gayest boy on earth.
1:08:39 Speaker 04 For sure.
1:08:39 Andrew Santino? No queen down at the fucking gay pride parade on a float could ever be as gay as a sleepover with two 13-year-old white suburban boys in northern Chicago.
1:08:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:48 Andrew Santino? That, that's the gayest you could be.
1:08:50 Speaker 04 I got like eight, eight boys.
1:08:53 Andrew Santino? Eight boys?
1:08:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:54 Andrew Santino? Yeah.
1:08:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:55 Andrew Santino? So gay.
1:08:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:56 Andrew Santino? That's a party. You gotta call the cops.
1:08:58 Speaker 04 Indeed.
1:08:59 Andrew Santino? Uh, listen to the album. Uh, please enjoy Petey USA on all the platforms that he's available. Watch him get jacked.
1:09:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:09:06 Andrew Santino? Uh, the album drops again. Give him the date of the album again.
1:09:09 Speaker 04 July 11th.
1:09:09 Andrew Santino? July 11th. Uh, please, stream it, download it, consume it, buy it, go see him live. You on tour at all?
1:09:17 Speaker 04 Uh, I'm gonna be putting my tour on sale the day the album drops.
1:09:20 Andrew Santino? Hell yeah, July 11th, we'll be putting it out, and it's pdusa.com?
1:09:23 Speaker 04 Uh, PD's website.com.
1:09:26 Andrew Santino? PD's website.com. Uh, we'll put the link in the description down below, Joe. Please, go see and enjoy and ingest him. I've liked you for a while, man, I think you're a talented, cool dude.
1:09:36 Speaker 04 Thank you.
1:09:36 Andrew Santino? And I hope the success continues. I hope you have a family, uh, if, cause you want one. Not because I hope you have one, just because you want one.
1:09:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:09:43 Andrew Santino? And I hope you get jacked. And I hope, uh, when we do go down in flames.
1:09:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:09:49 Andrew Santino? I do hope that, uh, you manage to, uh, be victorious and survive. And lead us back into a new, a new society.
1:09:58 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:09:59 Andrew Santino? Right on, right?
1:10:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:10:00 Andrew Santino? Cool?
1:10:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:10:01 Andrew Santino? We end the show the same way. You look into that camera, you're single, and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode. One word or one phrase.
1:10:08 Speaker 04 Thanks.
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