Michael Che w/ Sam Morril & Mark Normand - We Might Be Drunk Podcast

Michael Che joins Mark and Sam to talk about his new Netflix special, Shot in Minnesota, the origins of his brutal joke swaps with Colin Jost, and what really goes on behind the scenes at SNL. Plus, bombing at the Beacon, making his Letterman debut during Hurricane Sandy, awkward celebrity encounters, and why nobody wants reassurance after a terrible set. Watch Michael Che: Shot in Minnesota, streaming now on Netflix:https://www.netflix.com/title/82816770 Sponsored by: Whisker: Get 10% off your Litter-Robothttps://www.whisker.com/WMBD Willie’s Remedy: Get 20% off your first order with code WMBD. Plus, free shipping on orders over $95.https://www.drinkwillies.com Hims: Find personalized treatment optionshttps://www.hims.com/DRUNK MOD: Get a free consultation and 10% off your first order, plus free shipping, with code WMBDhttps://www.mod.com Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBDMerch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: https://punchup.live/sammorril/ticketsMark Normand: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets Produced by Gotham Production Studios: https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com@GothamProductionStudios | Producer: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters #WeMightBeDrunk #MichaelChe #MarkNormand #SamMorril #ShotInMinnesota #ComedyPodcast #StandUpComedy #BodegaCatWhiskey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:06Mark Normand?

  Hey, hey, folks, here we are. We might be drunk. We're back, baby. We got old Michael Che, the fatty himself. You know him, you love him. The jokes, the specials, the scandals.

• 0:18Sam Morril?

  How exhausted, how tired of this shit are you?

• 0:21Speaker 02

  It sucks.

• 0:23Sam Morril?

  No, I just.

• 0:23Speaker 02

  All of you love him.

• 0:25Sam Morril?

  I just did one of these press things with a special out, because I had one come out like two weeks before you. How fucking sick of it are you already?

• 0:31Speaker 02

  I hate it.

• 0:31Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 0:32Speaker 02

  I hate it. It's a nightmare. It's the worst part of the gig, and I love the gig so much that I'm willing to put up with it.

• 0:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 0:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 0:39Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 0:40Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  We love comedy so much that we do all types of sad, sad things.

• 0:45Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  I don't like that. It's like, it's just like a lot of press. And I don't even really care. It's just a lot.

• 0:52Mark Normand?

  It's a lot. You gotta get up early. You gotta go talk to people who don't understand comedians for some reason.

• 0:56Speaker 02

  I don't even think they're that interested, to be honest with you. Sometimes I feel that. You ever feel that way?

• 1:01Mark Normand?

  Of course. And I have to use like a dog trainer than a chef. You know, you're just, you're just in a row of bullshit.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  Well, I don't even mind like, like, talk shows as much as.

• 1:11Mark Normand?

  Because it's quick.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  Podcasts are cool and like, talk shows are quick. But then there's always like, you know, the other stuff.

• 1:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. I get it. We've done morning shows and they're like, so, wackety-boo. How do you, how do you come up with your material? And you go, well, I wrote this queef joke. And I go, Jesus Christ. I'm like, oh, I forgot, we can't speak here.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  Can't say queef.

• 1:35Mark Normand?

  Can't say queef.

• 1:36Speaker 02

  What is it about queef that, uh, is bad?

• 1:40Sam Morril?

  You could probably say queef.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  I think you can say queef.

• 1:42Sam Morril?

  No?

• 1:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:43Sam Morril?

  Carlin left that one out of the seven words.

• 1:45Mark Normand?

  That's true. Not on ABC Good Morning or whatever.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Was it queefing then? Was that?

• 1:51Mark Normand?

  Yeah, queefing was old as time.

• 1:53Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  It's an innocent, it's a fraud.

• 1:56Mark Normand?

  The Virgin Mary queefed.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  No, I know that you.

• 1:59Sam Morril?

  You definitely can't say that on morning TV.

• 2:00Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  I know that you can queef, and they've always queefed, but I'm saying, was that like a phrase, queefing? Is that like a new thing?

• 2:08Mark Normand?

  That's a good question.

• 2:09Sam Morril?

  Can we look at the old when queef, the term originally?

• 2:14Sam Morril?

  It was in Taming of the Shrew. Cheers, guys.

• 2:17Mark Normand?

  Hey.

• 2:17Sam Morril?

  Congrats on the new special, Mike.

• 2:19Mark Normand?

  Look at that cube, yeah.

• 2:20Sam Morril?

  Good to see you, dude.

• 2:21Mark Normand?

  Shot in Minnesota.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  Uh huh, uh huh.

• 2:23Sam Morril?

  Why did you land on Minnesota?

• 2:26Speaker 02

  You guys play Minnesota, you know, it's.

• 2:28Sam Morril?

  It's great.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  It's great. It's just, I found out it's like a old vaudeville town, too.

• 2:33Sam Morril?

  I didn't know that.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  A ton of theaters. They had like a crazy theater scene. So this, it's just in the air.

• 2:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, something good about it.

• 2:41Mark Normand?

  Prince, Kurt Vonnegut.

• 2:43Sam Morril?

  There's something about like.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  Lizzo.

• 2:45Mark Normand?

  Hey, there you go.

• 2:46Sam Morril?

  The good Midwest hits, for sure. Like, there's some Midwestern cities where you're like, you just know it's gonna be great.

• 2:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. Kansas City's awesome.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  It's not Kansas City in a long time.

• 2:57Sam Morril?

  Omaha is consistent.

• 2:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  What's that now?

• 3:01Mark Normand?

  Omaha, Nebraska.

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:02Sam Morril?

  It's solid. Chicago's amazing.

• 3:04Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 3:04Sam Morril?

  You know, that's an obvious one, but like, you know, Detroit is good.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  Detroit's good. Detroit's really good.

• 3:10Sam Morril?

  Madison, Wisconsin's great.

• 3:11Mark Normand?

  Forget about it.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Milwaukee's great.

• 3:13Sam Morril?

  It is.

• 3:14Mark Normand?

  Milwaukee's good.

• 3:14Sam Morril?

  Actually, that might be the most slept-on one.

• 3:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, Milwaukee's got some great theaters and great crowds.

• 3:20Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  It's, um.

• 3:22Mark Normand?

  The flyover state is such an insult. These are great places.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, they are.

• 3:27Sam Morril?

  No one says that shit anymore, though. That's like, that's like a Hollywood exec in the 40s. No one says flyover states anymore.

• 3:33Mark Normand?

  It's amazing. We live on this landmass that we can just jump around every weekend and do a whole different city.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  How do you guys do this?

• 3:40Mark Normand?

  What?

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Like, just talk.

• 3:43Mark Normand?

  Ah, when you got something to say, say it.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Really?

• 3:46Sam Morril?

  We're boring you this quickly?

• 3:48Speaker 02

  No, I'm just, it's just, this has gotta be like, what, your, your 10th show?

• 3:52Mark Normand?

  Second today.

• 3:52Sam Morril?

  Second today.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  Second today, but how many you do a week?

• 3:55Mark Normand?

  About one.

• 3:55Sam Morril?

  One.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 3:57Mark Normand?

  I was sick last week.

• 3:58Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Oh, you only do one show a week?

• 4:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah, easy.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  Okay, so it's easy.

• 4:02Mark Normand?

  Just like you.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  I thought you guys did every day.

• 4:04Sam Morril?

  No.

• 4:05Mark Normand?

  No. What is this, SNL? Come on. We don't have to go in.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  I thought this was like.

• 4:09Sam Morril?

  Is this driving radio with us?

• 4:10Mark Normand?

  Yeah, you're the one with a job.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 4:12Sam Morril?

  How do you do what you do? You're doing long hours with that.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  I talk for two minutes a week.

• 4:16Sam Morril?

  Yeah, but you're writing a lot of jokes for it.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, barely.

• 4:20Sam Morril?

  It's hard to do the topical jokes. This is the hardest time to do topical jokes.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  It's hard to do topical jokes, but it's also easy to do topical jokes because they're slight. You move on, you know? Like, if it's a good one lands, you're happy. If they don't land, you got the, you got another one coming. So it's like, it's like a, a, a baseball average.

• 4:40Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  If I could get two out of about seven, I had a decent week.

• 4:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Ain't an Hall of Fame week, but it's a decent week.

• 4:48Sam Morril?

  Two out of seven's respectable.

• 4:49Mark Normand?

  You're on the board.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Respectable, it's respectable, yeah.

• 4:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's so funny that you guys, because I watched I Love You and Jost.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  You do?

• 4:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I love the, I like the joke. I don't watch the other sketches.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  I feel like you wouldn't like it.

• 5:00Mark Normand?

  Oh, I love it. I'm, I'm, I've submitted. No one, no one wrote me back. But I submitted, but.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  I didn't know that you submitted. I wish I'd known that.

• 5:06Mark Normand?

  I'll text it straight to you now.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, please.

• 5:08Mark Normand?

  Apparently I was texting Scarlett. I didn't know that. I had her own number. But, yeah, I, I love the jokes, because I just wanna hear the zingers. I love Norm and, you know, Quinn and Dennis Miller and all that on there. So that's my highlight.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  But Norm is obviously, I think, every comedian's favorite of all time.

• 5:26Sam Morril?

  For Weekend Update?

• 5:27Speaker 02

  For Weekend Update, it's like not even close.

• 5:29Sam Morril?

  He didn't get his love in his time, though, I feel like. When he was on there, I don't think he got the love he deserved.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  I think that, that's, that was literally gonna be my point. I don't think, you know, like, if you watch it back, a lot of it's not working.

• 5:39Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  It's just, he's playing to those, to those, you know, people that didn't like the rest of the show.

• 5:44Mark Normand?

  Right, right, exactly.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  So it's kinda, it's kinda sweet. Like, we could never get away with the silence that he got, if that makes sense.

• 5:52Mark Normand?

  Good point.

• 5:52Sam Morril?

  A lot of the best shit is because of the silence. Like.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 5:56Sam Morril?

  When you think about shows like Seinfeld or like Simpsons, like, the first season isn't great. Like, it's not, it's, it got great.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  Simpsons first season was.

• 6:04Sam Morril?

  It is, okay, that's a bad example, but it wasn't like as good as two, three, four. Like, it need, no, it's not. But I think like.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  It takes a while for a show to like find itself.

• 6:15Sam Morril?

  Totally.

• 6:15Mark Normand?

  Of course.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I get what you're saying.

• 6:17Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right about it.

• 6:18Sam Morril?

  But like, I don't know. It, it's, that's a tough gig, Weekend Update. I feel like Kevin Nealon kinda doesn't get his due. He had some really great stuff.

• 6:26Speaker 02

  Kevin Nealon is so funny.

• 6:28Sam Morril?

  So funny.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  So, and in person, too. Like, not just, like, he's, and so like talented. Like, he could, there's a lot of guys that, you know, like, I, I watched SNL sort of in the periphery, uh, growing up. Like, it wasn't like my shit.

• 6:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  And, uh, working there, I got to like realize how good those motherfuckers actually are, you know, like all of them. Not just the, the current cast that was there when I got there, but like just how good Kevin Nealon is and how good Seth is, how good all these motherfuckers are at that shit. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's kinda crazy. Phil Hartman, like, who knew Phil Hartman was?

• 7:04Mark Normand?

  The king.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:05Mark Normand?

  But the funny thing, what I've noticed about SNL, is all kids who did their homework. It feels like a lot of homework, not you maybe, but like, uh.

• 7:12Sam Morril?

  You seem more like a, like, you, you study the night before and still get an A. You seem like more one of those. But.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  That's really?

• 7:18Sam Morril?

  That's more your vibe. I think nobody.

• 7:20Mark Normand?

  Like Seth Meyers is a.

• 7:21Sam Morril?

  Seth seems like he did his homework.

• 7:22Mark Normand?

  Does the work. He sits down at a fucking typewriter with a pot of coffee.

• 7:25Speaker 02

  Those are smart guys.

• 7:26Mark Normand?

  Tina Fey, does the work, you know?

• 7:28Speaker 02

  But Seth was like the fastest writer I think I'd ever seen.

• 7:32Mark Normand?

  Mm, really?

• 7:33Speaker 02

  Like, he was, he's a guy that's like, he'd have a sketch idea and he'll call you in the office to like write it with him, and he'd, he'd get it done in like an hour and a half.

• 7:43Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  And it'd be like the best thing in the show.

• 7:45Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Like something that they write about. You know, like, he has shit like that. It's, it's kinda crazy how fast he's, Jost is like that, too, but it takes, it takes a lot longer for Jost to get it ready. Seth, he'll, he'll write it perfect the first time. It's kinda crazy.

• 8:00Mark Normand?

  I went and saw him at the Beacon. I got free tickets. And, uh, he killed. He had great jokes.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, Seth is the man.

• 8:05Sam Morril?

  He's crisp, but it's just, it's just smooth. He's, it's like a smoothness to his stand-up, too.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  And like a great, like, writer room leader.

• 8:12Mark Normand?

  Mm.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  Like a guy that could kinda set the table for everybody to be able to pitch and feel comfortable. It's like a really great vibe with him.

• 8:20Sam Morril?

  But you're like that now, so how do you?

• 8:22Speaker 02

  No, I'm not that at all.

• 8:23Sam Morril?

  Are you not?

• 8:24Speaker 02

  No.

• 8:24Mark Normand?

  We're in the dark here.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  That's my point.

• 8:27Sam Morril?

  I thought, I thought you were one of the head writers, all right?

• 8:29Speaker 02

  No, I'm not. I, I was, I was, uh.

• 8:32Mark Normand?

  You got fired?

• 8:33Speaker 02

  I got fired from being head writer, and the show's never been better. No. I didn't get fired. I, I just stopped doing it because it was just, it was just very stressful.

• 8:43Mark Normand?

  I believe it. It's all on your shoulders.

• 8:45Speaker 02

  It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.

• 8:47Mark Normand?

  Yikes, that's terrifying. 30 Rock, you're at the head of the table.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  Have you ever done like, like, uh, like a writing staff job?

• 8:54Mark Normand?

  A couple, like for roast award shows, just stuff like that. Quick in and out.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  You know, you know.

• 8:59Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:00Sam Morril?

  I feel worthless in that environment, though.

• 9:02Mark Normand?

  You're a joke guy.

• 9:03Sam Morril?

  I.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  That's why I'm asking. I figured you guys would.

• 9:06Sam Morril?

  I like writing for myself, though.

• 9:08Mark Normand?

  Mm, yeah, I hear that.

• 9:10Sam Morril?

  I guess, yeah, a couple of times I've like, been like, oh, here's, you know, whatever. Here's a joke or whatever. Cause I like jokes, but I don't know. You know how, you try writing for someone else. It's hard, right?

• 9:19Speaker 02

  Oh, for sure, yeah. SNL is, it, it teaches you because, uh, a lot, like, they like stand-ups a lot because we're great premise people and we're great punch-up people. So like, even if you don't get a sketch on, you could help somebody with their sketch because you could be like, oh, you know what? This tag will work here or whatever.

• 9:35Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 9:36Speaker 02

  You know, you sort of know the music of a, of a, of a joke.

• 9:39Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  In a way that a lot of like sketch writers know a scene.

• 9:43Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  You guys could keep everybody alive.

• 9:46Mark Normand?

  I wrote for Hannibal on the Bieber roast, and he just took all my jokes and Hannibal'd them. You know, just like, yeah, that's why.

• 9:52Speaker 02

  That's even better, yeah.

• 9:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it was great. It was one to watch.

• 9:54Sam Morril?

  I think I gave, I remember I gave Pete Davidson a bunch, and I remember, I think it might have been the same roast, and I think he, I had one joke for him that was annihilating. And then he's like, ah, someone else did the same joke. Someone else had the same bit I wrote. It was, it was about the lea. I forgot what it was.

• 10:08Mark Normand?

  Wow, we know where that one went.

• 10:09Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 10:11Mark Normand?

  What I was gonna say about the Weekend Update is I can't believe people still give backlash.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  Fun.

• 10:17Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  I like that you guys could like, you know, shit on people.

• 10:22Mark Normand?

  Ah, it's gonna be fun. We keep it lit.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 10:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's fun.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  Alright, good.

• 10:26Mark Normand?

  You know.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  No, these guys get sensitive sometimes.

• 10:29Mark Normand?

  Oh, people get sensitive.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  You ever get like a phone call or a?

• 10:32Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, Byron Allen called me once.

• 10:34Speaker 02

  Byron Allen?

• 10:35Mark Normand?

  I shit, I went on a different podcast and he was like, I'm gonna sue you and I got that shit deleted. This guy owns the weather.

• 10:40Sam Morril?

  But then he said it for a joke on the phone call, right?

• 10:43Mark Normand?

  Who's getting sued? Me? Yeah.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  Byron Allen called you?

• 10:47Mark Normand?

  The weatherman.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  That sucks.

• 10:49Mark Normand?

  I know. He like owns NBC, basically.

• 10:52Sam Morril?

  Yeah, we get, sometimes you get a message and you're like, fuck you, that's not how it happened. You're like, I remember it differently.

• 10:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah, well, he hated me to begin with. We had a tough go on his show. I did the Comics Unleashed years ago.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:04Mark Normand?

  And.

• 11:04Sam Morril?

  Yeah, and you did this for the photo.

• 11:06Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 11:06Sam Morril?

  That might have set him off a little.

• 11:08Mark Normand?

  Well, it's so un-comedy. He's like, so I hear you have a dog. And I'd go, who told you that? So I just shut down the whole system.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  You did that?

• 11:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  I think that's like every fantasy, like, oh, man, I would love.

• 11:20Sam Morril?

  You're gonna get another call now. What are you doing?

• 11:21Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry.

• 11:22Sam Morril?

  You just said that's so un-comedy. You're gonna piss him off.

• 11:26Mark Normand?

  Sorry, Byron. Big fan.

• 11:28Speaker 02

  He's killing it now. He's like the king of late night.

• 11:30Mark Normand?

  Killing it.

• 11:30Sam Morril?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 11:31Speaker 02

  It is crazy.

• 11:32Sam Morril?

  They're just cutting some budget stuff, you know?

• 11:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, cutting budget stuff. And I also just think that people just, comedy is just like the cheapest thing to produce and they'll.

• 11:41Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, that, right.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, they'll roll out any fucking thing.

• 11:44Sam Morril?

  But SNL is one of the last things that has like a huge staff and there's like a whole.

• 11:47Mark Normand?

  True, you and the Tonight Show.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're, yeah, yeah.

• 11:51Sam Morril?

  Does it ever worry you that you're like, fuck, you know, this could not be forever?

• 11:56Speaker 02

  No, only because.

• 11:59Mark Normand?

  Nothing's forever.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Nothing's forever, first of all. So you just, you have to make peace with that part of it. And also, like, I'm enjoying it. So it's like.

• 12:09Sam Morril?

  How many years has it been?

• 12:11Speaker 02

  I've been there for 13, but I think I've been on Update for 10.

• 12:15Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 12:15Sam Morril?

  That's crazy.

• 12:16Mark Normand?

  It is flying by.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  It's flying by, yeah.

• 12:18Mark Normand?

  What's, what was the best celebrity sex?

• 12:22Speaker 02

  That I've seen or that I've been a part of?

• 12:23Mark Normand?

  Yeah, with the host. I assume Alec Baldwin or.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Oh, man, Betty White was awesome.

• 12:30Sam Morril?

  You got it under the wire.

• 12:32Speaker 02

  Broke that hip.

• 12:33Mark Normand?

  You fucked their brains out.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  I'm gonna get a call from heaven.

• 12:38Sam Morril?

  How many times were you, how many times were you like, I'm gonna leave? How many, like, how many times?

• 12:42Speaker 02

  Once a year, maybe twice a year. You always wanna leave because you just, I don't know, something about being a stand-up at that show, you just wanna be above it.

• 12:53Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  And then at some point, you just realize, ah, you get a live mic once a week.

• 12:58Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  And you get to tour and do other shit. Like, what are you complaining about, man? In this fucking climate of comedy and show business and aliens and AI taking all the fucking jobs, what are you really complaining about, you know?

• 13:12Mark Normand?

  Totally, totally.

• 13:13Sam Morril?

  That is the, kind of the dream New York gig is Weekend Update.

• 13:16Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, for a comic.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  It's something, you know?

• 13:18Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  I like it. I mean, it works. I figured out how to make it benefit my strong suit. At first, I didn't know how to do it. And then I just started to realize that they were gonna let me stay. So I just started trying to make myself laugh. And that just became it.

• 13:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, then you and the Jost stuff was always gold.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's fun. That was like a mistake. We backed into that.

• 13:42Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, because it started at first, we would have these jokes at dress rehearsals, because we do the show with a full audience at dress rehearsal. And we would tell jokes, like hard, rough jokes, and it would get dead silence. And it was like, stuff we thought was actually funny, but it was, again, like that Norm shit.

• 14:03Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  But the audience doesn't fuck with it. So one Christmas, Jost was like, hey, you know, what about for Christmas if we give each other a joke? That bomb that we really like.

• 14:15Mark Normand?

  Oh, I love it.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  So that was the start of it. So we set it up that way. And then the jokes would kill.

• 14:20Mark Normand?

  Interesting.

• 14:21Sam Morril?

  Cause they feel cool.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  Because they're like, oh, you know, we knew it was bad. So we offered that content. You know, like when you tell a joke, okay, this is gonna, this is gonna suck. You guys aren't gonna like this. Yeah. Tell it. It was that kind of thing.

• 14:32Mark Normand?

  Smart.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  So when we started doing that, I was like, well, let's do one where we don't know what's coming. And then that's how the kind of the joke swap came. So when he told me that, I was like, oh, he's trying to sandbag me and make me say something fucked up.

• 14:43Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  So I'm gonna make him say something really fucked up.

• 14:46Mark Normand?

  Well, it's a lot easier for the black guy.

• 14:48Speaker 02

  But he wasn't saying, he wasn't setting me up.

• 14:50Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  I was just paranoid. So it became joke swap because of that. So then he was like, oh, now I gotta get him back.

• 14:56Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  And then I just kept being so paranoid that he was gonna go harder and harder and I would overdo it.

• 15:02Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  And that's how it became as vicious as it is.

• 15:04Mark Normand?

  That's great.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:06Mark Normand?

  Damn, have you ever seen, this is hard to find, but Chris Rock and Steven Wright traded places on like a Night of Too Many Stars or something?

• 15:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 15:15Mark Normand?

  They tell each other's material.

• 15:16Sam Morril?

  Steven Wright doing Rock's material is way funnier, though.

• 15:18Mark Normand?

  Unbelievable.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  I mean, that's.

• 15:19Sam Morril?

  Cause it's, it's so out of character for him.

• 15:22Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 15:22Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 15:23Mark Normand?

  It's black people and the, but yeah, it's a, it's a great segment.

• 15:28Sam Morril?

  And they did it somewhere it really was, it was like the MTV Awards or something.

• 15:31Mark Normand?

  Something like that.

• 15:32Sam Morril?

  It was something where.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 15:33Sam Morril?

  It was like not Steven Wright's audience also.

• 15:35Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  I think I heard in a documentary one time that like Mel Brooks had to like do Richard Pryor's act because he didn't show up for a gig.

• 15:44Mark Normand?

  Oh, it's hilarious.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  And he just like read it off a card.

• 15:47Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  Just like the harshest.

• 15:49Mark Normand?

  You ever watch Your Mom Blow a John?

• 15:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:54Mark Normand?

  He's doing Mudbone.

• 15:55Sam Morril?

  Right.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  I would love to see that.

• 15:58Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Where can I find that?

• 16:00Mark Normand?

  I found it on Reddit, on my thing, but you could probably find it there, Peters.

• 16:03Sam Morril?

  The Mel Brooks dog was fun. That was a cool one.

• 16:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  I didn't know he did all of those serious films. I didn't know he did like Elephant Man.

• 16:09Sam Morril?

  Me neither.

• 16:10Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 16:10Sam Morril?

  He's, without him, you might not have David Lynch. It's crazy.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's insane.

• 16:15Mark Normand?

  He's still alive.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  That was my shit. When I was a kid, Mel Brooks movies was like.

• 16:19Mark Normand?

  Same.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, Spaceballs, History of the World.

• 16:24Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Blazing Saddles, I didn't see till later. But like, those were my two, Spaceballs and History of the World. And then I saw like everything else as I got a little bit more sophisticated.

• 16:34Sam Morril?

  I even loved Men in Tights as a kid.

• 16:36Mark Normand?

  Oh, I did too. Young Chappelle.

• 16:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Men in Tights.

• 16:39Sam Morril?

  And Cherry Els, yeah, it was fun.

• 16:42Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:43Sam Morril?

  Achoo.

• 16:43Mark Normand?

  You don't get those spoofs. I guess you got scary movies like The Last Bastion.

• 16:48Sam Morril?

  They went too hard with it for a while. They, it was, cause scary movie pops and then that's all they made for a while. And they made a lot of really shitty ones.

• 16:54Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Then it just sort of became not even jokes, just references.

• 16:58Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  And then it wasn't as clever. It wasn't really.

• 17:03Sam Morril?

  It's impressions without a premise.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't sending up the genre. It was sort of just saying, it was just a grab bag of fucking.

• 17:11Mark Normand?

  Nostalgia.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Nostalgia.

• 17:12Sam Morril?

  And also, like, you, in the first one, you're referencing like the classics.

• 17:16Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 17:16Sam Morril?

  And then it turns into like The Ring 2. Alright.

• 17:19Mark Normand?

  Yeah, true.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  In franchises, though, it's always hard because you're, at some point, you just become a parody of the parody.

• 17:27Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? I feel that way sometimes on the show. Like, I feel like Weekend Update sometimes is more of a commentary on Weekend Updates than the actual news that we watch. Sometimes, you know what I mean? Like.

• 17:41Mark Normand?

  Meta.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it, but that happens. It just becomes bigger than itself.

• 17:45Mark Normand?

  Sure, sure.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  It's, it's a, it's a strange kind of thing.

• 17:48Sam Morril?

  What's the most shit you got for a joke on that show?

• 17:51Speaker 02

  The most shit I ever got? Probably Caitlyn Jenner stuff.

• 17:55Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 17:56Speaker 02

  I think that's probably the most, yeah, that was probably the most.

• 17:59Mark Normand?

  Who's mad about, is it the trans jokes or is it the, is it her jokes? Like, what, what's the anger coming from?

• 18:05Speaker 02

  I just know that's theater kids. I don't know who. I don't know who's what, but they were upset.

• 18:10Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 18:10Mark Normand?

  It's gotta feel weird, though, cause you get older, but the crowd stays the same age, like Matthew McConaughey. So you got your, you know, we got our sense of humor, which is a little rougher, maybe. And then the youngsters are getting queefier.

• 18:23Sam Morril?

  But you don't wanna be that dude who's like, we can't evolve, you know?

• 18:26Mark Normand?

  You don't wanna be the dude who can't evolve, but you also don't wanna give in to the, to the cunt.

• 18:30Sam Morril?

  No, it's like the Principal Skinner thing. It's like, it's the kids who are wrong, you know? You don't wanna be that either, you know?

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Be that.

• 18:36Mark Normand?

  There's a, there's a middle ground. Can we meet halfway, folks?

• 18:39Speaker 02

  I think you just gotta stay yourself, cause they, you want people to be able to trust that whatever you're saying, you find funny.

• 18:45Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  I hate when I see people that like, I'm like, you don't even think this is good. You're just doing it because you think this is keeping you young. And that's when it feels disingenuous and you just become, what do they say? Like a camel is a, is a horse built by committee?

• 19:00Mark Normand?

  Oh, I've never heard that before. That's good. Is that in the Quran?

• 19:03Speaker 02

  I think.

• 19:05Mark Normand?

  I don't know that one.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that's in the Quran.

• 19:07Mark Normand?

  Well, in yours, cause what we do, we put people in a box, good box, bad box. So like, you'll be in the good box for a second and then you'll say retard in your special. And I can see people are like, wait, what? I thought he was a good guy. I'm like, he's still a good guy. He's just saying a word, you douche.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 19:22Sam Morril?

  But the more you talk, the more likely you're gonna put someone off.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's why I don't know how you guys do this shit.

• 19:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's.

• 19:29Sam Morril?

  You just, you just realize it doesn't, none of it really matters.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  It, it feels a lot, I grew up on pro wrestling and I do feel like part of me, the inner child in me feels like at any moment, no matter how bad of a guy you are, you can hit a bad guy with a chair and then everybody starts cheering for you again. Like, it is what it is. You can always turn.

• 19:49Sam Morril?

  Well, you can turn heel for a second.

• 19:50Mark Normand?

  Or you can turn heel. You can do both. You can do both.

• 19:53Sam Morril?

  You can come back. People come back.

• 19:55Mark Normand?

  Cosby did both.

• 19:56Sam Morril?

  Well.

• 19:59Sam Morril?

  It's a different point we're trying to make here.

• 20:00Mark Normand?

  Alright, alright.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  You think Cosby could ever come back?

• 20:07Mark Normand?

  I don't think so.

• 20:08Sam Morril?

  I don't think at this point.

• 20:09Mark Normand?

  Well, what could he do? Send all those girls the Jeter box? You know? That's not gonna do it.

• 20:17Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  The Jeter box?

• 20:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah, well, he would bang, Jeter would famously bang a lady and then send her like a prize pack.

• 20:21Sam Morril?

  But he did it consensually, it was a gift.

• 20:23Mark Normand?

  Of course, of course. Yeah, but Cosby's fucked.

• 20:26Sam Morril?

  Cosby's done. There's no coming back for that.

• 20:29Mark Normand?

  And Hannibal was the one who did it, ironically.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  I don't think he likes to talk about it.

• 20:33Mark Normand?

  Oh, shit, sorry.

• 20:35Sam Morril?

  Bill Cosby is not on, in case you weren't wondering if you can get tickets, he's not on tour right now.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  You know what's crazy is I saw Bill Cosby's special that never came out. And he taped it in San Francisco, I went to the taping, I was doing Punchline.

• 20:49Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  And-

• 20:50Sam Morril?

  How long ago was this?

• 20:51Speaker 02

  This was-

• 20:52Mark Normand?

  It was a Comedy Central special, I remember.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  Seventeen, no, it was Netflix.

• 20:56Mark Normand?

  Oh, it was Netflix?

• 20:56Speaker 02

  It never came out, it was like a Netflix special, Cosby Seventy Seven, came out, yeah, damn, twenty fourteen.

• 21:03Mark Normand?

  Wow, Robert Townsend directed it?

• 21:05Speaker 02

  Robert Townsend directed it.

• 21:06Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 21:06Speaker 02

  He did it, he did it at the San Francisco, oh, I'm looking at it right now.

• 21:10Sam Morril?

  Children, Romance and Marriage.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Never came out. I got the ticket stub too.

• 21:16Mark Normand?

  And how was the show?

• 21:17Speaker 02

  It was raunchy, he was talking about like sex for the first time, he was talking about like a lot of stuff. And, man, I wish I remembered more of it, but it was like-

• 21:26Mark Normand?

  You fell asleep?

• 21:27Sam Morril?

  Was it like two hours or?

• 21:30Speaker 02

  It was like, it was like ninety minutes, it was like-

• 21:32Mark Normand?

  Of course.

• 21:33Speaker 02

  It was like ninety, a hundred minutes, something like that, and he did like four shows that night, so I saw like the six o'clock.

• 21:40Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  And then did my set, it was like on a Sunday or something crazy.

• 21:44Mark Normand?

  Good for you for going, I mean-

• 21:45Speaker 02

  Oh, I had to go, but this is before, this is before anything came out.

• 21:48Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  So like, I think the Hannibal thing happened like that August, if this happened in July, the Hannibal thing happened in like August.

• 21:55Mark Normand?

  Wow. That's crazy.

• 21:57Sam Morril?

  So you couldn't talk about the experience?

• 21:58Speaker 02

  So you couldn't even talk about, nobody could talk about it, that's probably the last time he did comedy.

• 22:02Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Cause you figure-

• 22:04Sam Morril?

  And you had no idea.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  He had no idea, he was like, boy, this is gonna change everything.

• 22:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 22:09Sam Morril?

  This next special's the one.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  This next special's gonna change everything.

• 22:13Mark Normand?

  I'm back, baby.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then that was it.

• 22:17Mark Normand?

  I saw him in two, twenty twelve maybe, and it was, it was a good show, he brought his grandkids on stage, riffed with them, it was, it was fun.

• 22:24Sam Morril?

  I never saw him live.

• 22:26Mark Normand?

  I went in Jersey, went out in Jersey.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  That was the first time I, first and only time I ever seen him live.

• 22:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 22:31Sam Morril?

  It is fun to tell when you're on the road and there's another show in town and you can kinda just-

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:35Sam Morril?

  I was in St. Louis once and Rock and Chappelle were there and I was like, oh, this is fun, this is a-

• 22:39Mark Normand?

  Oh, nice.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Did you, did you check him or was it the same time?

• 22:42Sam Morril?

  No, I, my show was earlier, so I got to go see it, and there started like waylaid, it was, it was perfect, it was great, so. Yeah, Rock was, was working on the, uh, the Will Smith stuff, so it was fun.

• 22:52Mark Normand?

  Oh, fun.

• 22:53Sam Morril?

  Working out in an arena and it was already funny, so it was cool.

• 22:55Mark Normand?

  Who opened?

• 22:56Sam Morril?

  Rock went on first.

• 22:58Mark Normand?

  Damn, no opener though.

• 22:59Sam Morril?

  No, Rick Ingram was hosting, he did a great job, it's hard to do what he does in an arena, he was really good.

• 23:04Mark Normand?

  He's a pro.

• 23:05Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it was, it was cool, man.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  Arenas are weird.

• 23:09Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 23:10Sam Morril?

  But what's, Rock is one of the, and Chappelle are two of the few dudes who, like, nothing changes in an arena for them.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Well, but like, yeah, I guess they've been doing it for that long, like they're comfortable in that space, but even still, I would much rather watch them in a theater than in an arena.

• 23:25Sam Morril?

  Yeah, of course, of, no, arenas are not good for comedy, but Rock really impressed me, cause it's like, it's just Rock.

• 23:32Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 23:32Sam Morril?

  He's never, of course at The Cellar, it's different if you see him pop in, but like, there's not many like joke guys-

• 23:37Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 23:38Sam Morril?

  In arenas.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  And Rock sort of, he like kinda stalks the stage more for, like, he kinda uses the space a lot more-

• 23:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  For an arena, Dave sort of like is such a quieter set.

• 23:51Mark Normand?

  He'll sit?

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, he'll sit, he'll kinda like meander a little bit, so it's really interesting, you start to hear people yell.

• 23:58Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  You know, like, even like in a special, you could hear like the, the crowd, you know, it's just like that many people in a, in a fucking arena, man, it just, it's just unruly.

• 24:08Mark Normand?

  It really is, like, we've done a few Shane gigs, and it's great, cause you're like fifteen minutes, I'm in, I'm out, and I'll be up there, I'm like, man, I'm killing, and then I look down, I don't see anyone laughing. You ever see that, you ever look down the ground, there's a bunch of people like this?

• 24:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:20Mark Normand?

  Well, you're like, you hear a roar.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you hear a roar.

• 24:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  It's just too, it's just too much, it's-

• 24:24Mark Normand?

  It's too much.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  It's too much, yeah.

• 24:26Mark Normand?

  And you gotta rotate, cause he does the, Shane loves the round, that's the son of a bitch.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  It sucks.

• 24:31Sam Morril?

  I mean, it's a, it's a real first world problem for something like that, but, but yeah, no, theater is kinda like the max, and once you're over like two thousand seats, it doesn't feel like-

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Once you can't see everybody, it's too big.

• 24:43Mark Normand?

  Yeah, and you're on a Jumbotron, it's weird.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:45Sam Morril?

  Where did you work out the new hour?

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Everywhere, man, I did, I did a bunch of, a bunch of clubs, cause I, I wanted it to have a club pace.

• 24:53Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  I wanted it to feel like, I wanted the jokes to feel fast, you know? And, um, I got a lot of heat on my last special for it being slow, so I wanted this one to feel like a club set.

• 25:06Mark Normand?

  It was punchy.

• 25:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wanted it to be punchy, it was kinda like Biden.

• 25:09Sam Morril?

  Why do you think the last one was slower?

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Cause it was COVID, I was kinda not in the right practice for it, and I wanted it to just feel, I think that's just how I felt, I wanted it to be quieter, and, uh, I wish I didn't do that.

• 25:26Sam Morril?

  I've done it, I've done the same thing, that's why I was just asking.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  I wish I didn't.

• 25:28Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  You, really?

• 25:30Sam Morril?

  Yeah, sometimes you get a little too comfortable, and it's, it's a bad, I think clubs will beat it out of you.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:35Sam Morril?

  Cause you have to pick up the pace in the club.

• 25:37Mark Normand?

  They're staring at you, they're two feet away from you.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes you, when you get in those big spaces, you, you think you're doing cinema.

• 25:43Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  You want these dramatic. And then low, lower the lights at this point. Fuck you, dude, you know, make us laugh, so this one was sort of the antithesis of that, I was like, no, no, no, let's, let's, let's punch them in the mouth.

• 25:56Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah, do you get to go, hey, I tried this on Update, it didn't fly, I'm putting in my act?

• 26:01Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, but not it didn't fly, it's more like, um, there's way more meat on the bone.

• 26:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah, oh, sure.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  So let me expound, or, or this'll, this'll work really good to, to further a bigger point.

• 26:14Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  That's when I'll use, like reuse something or, or try something again, but never because it's like, it doesn't work there, if it doesn't work there, then it's probably not that-

• 26:24Mark Normand?

  Right, right, right.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  But, you know.

• 26:26Mark Normand?

  I love the Buttigieg joke, like what is being, what is eating a pussy have to do with being a president?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  That was like, that was like maybe like within the last five practice runs.

• 26:36Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 26:36Sam Morril?

  You know what's annoying about that?

• 26:37Speaker 02

  That came late.

• 26:38Sam Morril?

  You only get like a few times to tell it.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:40Sam Morril?

  Cause I, I have a couple of jokes in my, when I just taped, and I was like, oh, I really liked that one, I only got to tell it for like two months.

• 26:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:47Sam Morril?

  No, just cause like you're doing a new hour, you turned it over, so it's, yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  How long before you're back on stage working at the, the newer shit?

• 26:54Sam Morril?

  Well, The Cellar, it's all new, but if I'm on tour right now, I have to, I have to cheat a little bit with some of the older stuff.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:00Sam Morril?

  But it's fifteen minutes, I can, I can do it, but if it's an hour, yeah, I gotta-

• 27:04Speaker 02

  I, uh, I just went on stage for the first time like a couple of days ago, I was a guest on Aziz's show at the Beacon. Oof.

• 27:13Mark Normand?

  No, you weren't ready?

• 27:14Sam Morril?

  Cause you're just doing too much new?

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Oof, I didn't, I couldn't even fucking think, I was oof.

• 27:20Mark Normand?

  Oh, no.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  Bobbed my dick off, but it was nice, cause it was like, ah, here we are.

• 27:25Mark Normand?

  That'll wake you up.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  Back to work. I was like, oh, shit.

• 27:28Sam Morril?

  My girlfriend would see me after a Cellar set, like, I got very really funny dude, Peter Ravello, buried me at The Cellar, just throwing ninety-eight heat and their good ass jokes. And I went up there and I just took a fucking beating.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:42Sam Morril?

  And, uh, I love walking home, my girlfriend's like, what's wrong, I'm like, just give me like an hour.

• 27:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 27:46Sam Morril?

  Just let me feel bad for like an hour and I'll be totally cool.

• 27:49Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  That's why I don't like people coming to SNL, like people will be like, oh, I was sitting in the green room, I hate it, because if the show goes bad, I like to take that time by myself. I don't wanna guess, I don't want you to tell me it was actually better than I thought, I don't, I don't want any of that shit, I just wanna sit in it.

• 28:09Mark Normand?

  Why do people do it, it was good, it was good.

• 28:11Speaker 02

  It was great.

• 28:11Sam Morril?

  Don't deny us our feelings in that moment, cause we're not idiots, we know-

• 28:15Speaker 02

  We know.

• 28:16Sam Morril?

  My girlfriend watched me bomb a private event, and she was like, it wasn't that bad, I was like, I know it. You think I don't know, it got to a point where she's laughing at the bar, cause she's uncomfortable, and she's trying to like drum up momentum for me, and they just looked at her like she's a crazy person, cause like, why are you laughing? But-

• 28:31Mark Normand?

  It's been with a person laughing, it's crazy.

• 28:33Sam Morril?

  I know it's bad, we know it's bad.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  We know it's bad.

• 28:35Sam Morril?

  And guess what, if we don't think it's bad, we're fucking shit at comedy, so be glad we know it's bad.

• 28:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:40Mark Normand?

  And I'll tell you, a good bomb will get you right, cause you know, sometimes it's hard to muster up a little writing, ah, I don't worry, oh, I got it, I got some stuff, I'll be fine.

• 28:47Sam Morril?

  A little self-hatred, a hint.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Even not a bomb, like just if I didn't get a thing right, or if something didn't go the way I wanted it to go, or anything that went wrong, like if it bothers me, like that's, you need that too.

• 29:03Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  And, and I don't need people to say, oh, nobody even, like, I don't give a fuck, I did, and this is what's going to make me better at this.

• 29:11Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 29:11Speaker 02

  You need that.

• 29:12Sam Morril?

  I just realized, you, I mean, SNL, people hitting you up for tickets every week, I mean, you're, it's like being a Nick, every, it's a home game, every fucking week, people hitting you up for tickets, you have to do the post-show conference with people, that's stressful.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  It's, it's, it is really-

• 29:26Sam Morril?

  It's why I try not to tape a special in New York, I don't wanna, it's-

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Same.

• 29:30Mark Normand?

  Don't do it.

• 29:30Sam Morril?

  It's a lot.

• 29:31Mark Normand?

  Where do we park?

• 29:32Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 29:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, same, and then, yeah, it's, it's always like people that you don't wanna see, people who can't get you on the phone, so just show up to your show.

• 29:39Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Shit like that, you know, like it's, it's a bunch of shit that's just like-

• 29:43Sam Morril?

  You're getting, you're getting-

• 29:44Speaker 02

  Just don't wanna think about it.

• 29:45Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Just don't wanna think about it.

• 29:46Mark Normand?

  You ever get that one where they're like, you get offstage and like, oh, your friend's in the green room?

• 29:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:51Mark Normand?

  I'm in Cincinnati, they're like, oh, and it's some guy you met in an open mic fifteen years ago, who's like, you owe me ten dollars or whatever.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, definitely.

• 30:00Mark Normand?

  Will you do my podcast, can I come up for you on the road, you're like, how'd you get in here?

• 30:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, that sucks.

• 30:04Sam Morril?

  You definitely did his podcast, so.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  Do you do podcasts on the road?

• 30:08Mark Normand?

  I used to, I've gotten better at saying no, but I'm weak.

• 30:10Sam Morril?

  You meant a podcast, I get hit up, they're like, Mark did it.

• 30:13Mark Normand?

  I can't say no, if I was a woman, I'd be plowed in the ass.

• 30:16Sam Morril?

  They think I'm an asshole just cause I don't wanna do a podcast when I'm doing two or three shows in a night.

• 30:20Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  See, I don't do podcasts, so it's an easier no for me.

• 30:24Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  You guys do podcasts.

• 30:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 30:27Sam Morril?

  Well, you have a, you have a real full-time thing.

• 30:30Mark Normand?

  You have a job.

• 30:31Sam Morril?

  We have-

• 30:32Speaker 02

  No.

• 30:32Sam Morril?

  A lot of free time.

• 30:33Speaker 02

  But, eh.

• 30:34Sam Morril?

  That gets eaten up quickly, don't get me wrong, but-

• 30:36Speaker 02

  It's, but it's, it's still to me like, it's like having a show, like if you have a show in the city, like, hey, you do my show, I do your shows, like, it's not the same fucking show.

• 30:44Mark Normand?

  No, of course.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  You know what I mean, so it's, I don't know, I just feel like, also, you guys are very-

• 30:49Sam Morril?

  But we expect to be on SNL after this.

• 30:53Mark Normand?

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• 35:53Speaker 02

  Also, you guys are like very, like, approachable guys, I feel like.

• 35:58Mark Normand?

  I'll take it.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, people, people.

• 36:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  I think like, I think like, a lot of comedy fans don't realize that sometimes we don't want to be bothered.

• 36:08Mark Normand?

  100%.

• 36:09Sam Morril?

  Well, you need to hide a little bit sometimes to...

• 36:11Speaker 02

  How do you get away with it?

• 36:12Sam Morril?

  You just hide.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  You just hide.

• 36:14Mark Normand?

  Drink.

• 36:15Sam Morril?

  Yeah, you just don't leave the apartment, or you take a walk and you put an audiobook on. Anything to just fucking...

• 36:21Speaker 02

  You see what you're doing to these guys? They don't, they don't leave their apartment.

• 36:26Sam Morril?

  I will say this about Shay, and a lot of people have said this, like, they're like, "Have you ever met a comic who is funny immediately?" And you're the only name that comes up.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  No way.

• 36:35Sam Morril?

  I think so, dude. I mean, I think Mark could write jokes immediately, but I think it took us a little longer. I think you also started, you were a little older when you started than us. You knew who you were more as a human. Don't you think Shay was...

• 36:47Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah, out of the gate. I mean, you would do, we used to go to the pit mic at 11:00 PM on Mondays, and you...

• 36:52Speaker 02

  It was two minutes.

• 36:53Mark Normand?

  It was two minutes, and it was like...

• 36:54Sam Morril?

  Jay Welch.

• 36:55Mark Normand?

  Cut, cutthroat. Jay Welch was the host, he was in a booth, and you used to riff with Jay like it was a fucking Ed McMahon.

• 37:02Sam Morril?

  He had a comfort, well, he had a comfort out of the gate. I certainly didn't have, you didn't have. I mean, like, I, Michelle was funny quickly, Chris D was funny quickly, but I think Shay, like, knew who he was quicker than anybody.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  That's so interesting to hear, because I feel like I, it took me so long to get comfortable.

• 37:20Mark Normand?

  Oh, you hit it well.

• 37:21Sam Morril?

  Well, you faked it, yeah, you faked it well, man.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  I think it was like an overcompensation of like trying, you know, you're trying to make yourself comfortable because you're not naturally...

• 37:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, the cupcake bit, crackhead Dave. I remember the whole act.

• 37:33Sam Morril?

  You sound, you actually sound the same now that you did when you were like, brand new.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  I learned how to open my mouth.

• 37:41Sam Morril?

  There aren't a lot of new comics with deliberate pacing who can like, kind of know where... A lot of the open mics, you're like, oh, that's where the punchline was? And with him, I don't think that was a thing.

• 37:52Mark Normand?

  That's a good point.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  I, that's a huge compliment, thank you, guys.

• 37:57Sam Morril?

  Well, you had us tricked if you weren't confident, because I was like, oh, this dude's fucking smooth.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  I was not confident at all.

• 38:02Sam Morril?

  I think Chrissy was funny quickly, too. There were certain people that were funny quickly, but I think Shay's like...

• 38:07Speaker 02

  I didn't meet, like, meet you until much, like, I feel like I knew Mark relatively quickly.

• 38:15Mark Normand?

  We were drinking, we were at Caroline's a lot.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 38:18Sam Morril?

  I was at Caroline's last time, too.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  That's, I think that's around when I met, because I remember I used to hear about you all the time from Racine. Because I think you used to do, you used to do the east side, uh...

• 38:28Mark Normand?

  Eastville.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  No. Uptown, Strip. You used to do the Strip more, and I never did the Strip.

• 38:34Sam Morril?

  I wanted a real crowd.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:36Mark Normand?

  You did.

• 38:36Sam Morril?

  It was, I couldn't tweak if I was at open mics all the time. And at the Strip, I could do, I could like, oh, I can tweak this joke more, I could, you know, and...

• 38:44Speaker 02

  Oh, I got it. I, I, I got why you were doing it.

• 38:48Mark Normand?

  Free alcohol.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  I got, I didn't get passed at the, at the Strip. That was like the one club that was like, no.

• 38:53Sam Morril?

  God, isn't it funny you look back at like these clubs that just like...

• 38:57Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 38:57Sam Morril?

  They didn't want to develop young guys.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  No, they really didn't, they really didn't. And, and I, it, I won't name any names, but I do feel like there's a lot of clubs, like, the way we feel about The Cellar, because they kind of brought us in as pups.

• 39:09Mark Normand?

  True.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  And I feel like a lot of other clubs had that opportunity before The Cellar brought us in.

• 39:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  And, and they're not, they're not as around anymore.

• 39:18Mark Normand?

  Good point, good point.

• 39:19Speaker 02

  Because they didn't take care of us, and it's like, yo, there's a loyalty to when you can get stage time and be treated like a fucking professional and, and be able to develop. And, and I feel like no matter how big any of us got, we always come back.

• 39:33Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  You know, and, and a lot of those clubs don't have that loyalty. But I think, I think The Cellar and The Stand kind of...

• 39:39Sam Morril?

  The Strip never, they saw me as, as always, like, a nothing, I think.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Is that right?

• 39:45Sam Morril?

  I don't think, I think once they saw me a certain way, they just, there was no room for growth.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Mmm.

• 39:49Mark Normand?

  Damn, that's no guts, that's how a club should be, they should cultivate.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  That's like legendary, that's like, that's like...

• 39:54Sam Morril?

  A lot of clubs are like that.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Seinfeld and Murphy.

• 39:55Mark Normand?

  Sandler.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 39:56Sam Morril?

  Yeah, but if you hear the stories about that, I mean, look, I, I loved going up there, like, I was, I grew in there for sure.

• 40:02Mark Normand?

  I was so jealous you were in there.

• 40:03Sam Morril?

  You'd come there for the booze.

• 40:04Mark Normand?

  I'd come to the booze, yeah, because you got free drinks, which is unheard of.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  And the popcorn. First comedy club I ever been to was the, was the Strip.

• 40:12Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 40:12Mark Normand?

  How old were you?

• 40:14Speaker 02

  Probably like 16.

• 40:15Sam Morril?

  Do you remember the lineup?

• 40:17Speaker 02

  I remember Kevin Brennan was on.

• 40:21Sam Morril?

  That's so funny, I saw, I saw him in high school at a show.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  Kevin Brennan had, he had, he had a joke, because I remember the joke was like, they curse at you at McDonald's, he's like, "How you doing, motherfucker?" Or something like that, "Can I get a cheeseburger or something? Put some cheese on that, motherfucker."

• 40:35Sam Morril?

  Yeah, that shit.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy if you remember that? I was like, I saw him 30 years ago.

• 40:39Sam Morril?

  I saw him in high, I remember Marina Franklin was hosting, I remember, I remember Bill Burr, and I remember Kevin Brennan were all on the show.

• 40:45Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  I remember there was this one guy that was closing, and they was like, "Ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna remember this guy forever. He's going to be a future legend. I cannot remember who that guy..." It was a white guy with long blonde hair, I do not know who he was. And he did not have a good set. But, it was like, "Show the link, blonde hair," and it was like, "This guy."

• 41:07Sam Morril?

  You don't frame the dude up like that.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  "Never forget him."

• 41:11Mark Normand?

  That host hated that comic, yeah.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, he must have, because I'm like, I have no idea who he is. Till this day, I have no idea who he is.

• 41:18Sam Morril?

  Carlin, he's on it?

• 41:20Speaker 02

  It was, it was George Carlin, that's right. He had this bit about stuff and...

• 41:27Mark Normand?

  Kevin Brennan.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Never forget, but Kevin Brennan, I remember.

• 41:30Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  Kevin Brennan, I remember.

• 41:32Sam Morril?

  Me too. I remember his half hour special was killer.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  He was hilarious.

• 41:36Mark Normand?

  Worst one ever.

• 41:37Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 41:37Mark Normand?

  Yeah. Funny, Neil Brennan was getting shit online one day and I was like, hey, man, you all right? And he goes, my brother's Kevin Brennan. I can handle this. And I was like, oh, good point.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that old ray of sunshine.

• 41:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah, the club, you just wanna go back and go, hey, strip, how do you like me now?

• 41:56Sam Morril?

  Nah, but you know, it's, you're also grateful, like, but it stays with you. Like, I remember, I, I read an interview with Chris Rock once and it was like, he basically just said something like, well, this, he thought this guy, Lucian, the comic strip booker, who I guess never really showed him respect or whatever, said something like, uh, he passed away and rocks something like, well, he thought this guy was funnier than me. I was like, it never goes away.

• 42:17Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 42:18Sam Morril?

  It never goes away.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Oh, we are such petty.

• 42:21Mark Normand?

  Oh, completely.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  That is, I've never been upset about, uh, like not getting something, no. Like it never, I always, I always internalized it more than, why not me? Like, I remember I didn't get New Faces and, and like, I had, but I didn't have a good set for, to audition, you know, like, when I auditioned, I never felt like, oh, I killed it.

• 42:42Sam Morril?

  But you got shit quickly also.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  I got shit quickly, but when I didn't get shit, it didn't feel like, my ego wasn't like, I should be getting this. It was more like, uh, yeah.

• 42:52Sam Morril?

  Gotta get better.

• 42:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or I just didn't, you know, it just didn't work out, you know? I didn't get, uh, the strip and I was just like, nah, well, you know, whatever.

• 43:01Mark Normand?

  Well, you started after us and I remember being like, all right, I gotta stay above Che here. This guy's still younger than me. And then you got, we got the John Oliver thing, same show, and then you got in the cellar quick. And I was like, damn.

• 43:12Sam Morril?

  I remember we had a Letterman set and I remember like, oh, that was like one of the last, that was cool just to be on Letterman as a stand.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  I got the cup still.

• 43:19Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 43:20Speaker 02

  I got a Letterman. And my thing is mugs. I like the, I like a mug from every show.

• 43:24Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  I got Ellen and I got Letterman. Those are my, those are my prized possessions right there. Yeah.

• 43:29Sam Morril?

  I went through that mug at an intern, so it's worth extra.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:33Sam Morril?

  No, I always wanna do Letterman. I luckily got to.

• 43:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's the one. I got that blue one.

• 43:37Sam Morril?

  I got to do the Netflix one, but I never, I always wanted CBS. I'm like, I just want one. And thank God they brought him back on Netflix, cause I, I was, he was the one dude.

• 43:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 43:46Sam Morril?

  Letterman and Conan.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  No one will ever get one again unless they have $25.

• 43:52Sam Morril?

  It is a cool ass logo.

• 43:53Mark Normand?

  You in that suit was wild to see. You looked like a Mormon.

• 43:56Speaker 02

  I look so stupid. I look like the one black guy the Mormons converted. The one black guy that answered his door.

• 44:03Mark Normand?

  Look at that, look how cute.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  Oh my God, 60 pounds.

• 44:06Mark Normand?

  Not so bad.

• 44:07Speaker 02

  No, I look dumb. I look.

• 44:09Sam Morril?

  Chrissy D looked rough in the suit. He was, he was wearing like a double XL.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  It wasn't even a suit. That's, that's literally, uh, jeans under there and some Jordans. Yeah, I would, I would have full Seinfeld.

• 44:21Sam Morril?

  Nike shocks?

• 44:21Speaker 02

  Not full Seinfeld. Well, pretty Seinfeld.

• 44:26Sam Morril?

  Damn dude.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 44:29Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 44:29Sam Morril?

  And then you did Daily Show. I mean, you, you had an insane ascent. It was, Daily Show was right after this?

• 44:36Speaker 02

  No, SNL was right after that. I, I think Daily Show was maybe like a year or two later.

• 44:41Mark Normand?

  Oh, and we did our half hours together.

• 44:43Speaker 02

  We did our half hours together in Boston?

• 44:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, damn, man, this is like watching your own funeral.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  What was the one where you was like, I'm a professional comedian?

• 44:56Mark Normand?

  For me, it was that first Conan with the tie dab. It went well. I was like, I'm in, I'm on TV and it went well.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 45:03Mark Normand?

  Signed my, signed my check.

• 45:05Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 45:05Sam Morril?

  Yeah, what was yours?

• 45:07Mark Normand?

  The Oliver one, right?

• 45:08Speaker 02

  First, I think was, I think Letterman was the one that felt like, oh shit. That was the one.

• 45:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 45:15Sam Morril?

  Were you nervous for that?

• 45:17Speaker 02

  Was I? Cause you got, it was during Sandy.

• 45:20Mark Normand?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  It was literally during Sandy, so I didn't, they didn't call me or nothing. They, uh, my, my buddy, I didn't have a phone. So my buddy had to like come to my apartment in Jersey City, knock on my window and be like, hey, they want you to do Letterman tomorrow.

• 45:34Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  So I had to like.

• 45:36Mark Normand?

  No phone.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  I had no phone, so I had to, and I couldn't charge my phone cause there was no power.

• 45:40Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  So I had to go from Jersey City to Hoboken to a hotel, like some motel thing, just so I could be near a phone and, and take a hot shower. Then we drove into, uh, the city like that next day and taped it. So I didn't have time to like rehearse or nothing like that.

• 45:57Mark Normand?

  Holy shit.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  I didn't know what to do, cause I just auditioned like that Sunday.

• 46:02Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  And then was locked in since like that Tuesday or whatever.

• 46:06Mark Normand?

  That's crazy.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  And then had to do it that like Thursday or Friday.

• 46:10Mark Normand?

  Between when you auditioned and did the set, like, people died, lost their whole lives, fucking crazy.

• 46:16Speaker 02

  Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So that was like, that was like really stressful.

• 46:20Mark Normand?

  That was a crazy.

• 46:20Sam Morril?

  Those Subways, man, holy shit.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  And I bought that, and I bought that suit jacket and shirt from H and M like down the block.

• 46:27Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 46:28Sam Morril?

  That's good.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  I remember we went to Saks and, and I was like, I'm going on TV and I need to look good. And she got me this Gucci suit. It was like $3,000 and I was like, I'm gonna come back. Hold that for me, I'll be right back.

• 46:42Sam Morril?

  Promise you'll hold it. Promise you'll hold that.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  Promise me. And I went straight to H and M, wore like a $50 blazer. I, I thought I was on TV, but you know, whatever.

• 46:50Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 46:51Sam Morril?

  That's a great Mindy Tucker shot of you. Look at that.

• 46:53Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's a classic.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  That was my headshot for a long time. That's, I think Second Avenue. Remember that?

• 46:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Was that Cabin?

• 47:01Speaker 02

  Not Cabin. I think it was the other one. The, uh, Carol, um, ah shit.

• 47:07Mark Normand?

  Three of Cups? No.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  Name.

• 47:09Sam Morril?

  Three.

• 47:09Speaker 02

  Harzl.

• 47:11Mark Normand?

  Oh, Carol Harzl.

• 47:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, her, her fucking show was on like, like Second Avenue or was it maybe Avenue A? I can't remember.

• 47:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. It was at Ella Lounge or something like that.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  It was something like that. Yeah, yeah. Harzl, yeah. Damn, I'm sorry. She's the one that got me my first, uh, uh, Montreal audition.

• 47:29Mark Normand?

  Oh, nice.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:30Mark Normand?

  Who'd you go with?

• 47:31Speaker 02

  I didn't do good. I never win. I never got it.

• 47:33Mark Normand?

  You never got it?

• 47:33Sam Morril?

  No, he went the year we were New Faces, but as like a gala.

• 47:36Speaker 02

  I went, yeah, I got, I got the gala before I get New Faces.

• 47:41Mark Normand?

  I still remember Jimmy Carr going up to Damian Lemon and going, Michael Che, I'm a huge fan.

• 47:45Sam Morril?

  I was there. That was brutal.

• 47:47Mark Normand?

  No, I don't know about this.

• 47:48Sam Morril?

  Oh dude, he went to Damian Lemon, was like, amazing set, you killed it. And he was like.

• 47:52Mark Normand?

  Pull up Lemon.

• 47:53Sam Morril?

  And, and Lemon was just like, yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't on that show. And then I watched him, well, I'd love to see you sometime. I'd love to, tell me where you're performing.

• 48:03Mark Normand?

  It was a harmless mistake, but it was, he was.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  That's a close one though. There was something that I was like, I can't understand how you, like, people would confuse me and Jay Pharoah and I'd be like, how? That's a lot closer than me and Jay Pharoah.

• 48:13Mark Normand?

  He had the hat on and everything. Yeah.

• 48:15Sam Morril?

  Damian's funny. Damian, Damian, one of my favorite jokes. Remember Damian's joke? I, I had the type of dad that would leave the family but stay in the neighborhood?

• 48:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 48:22Sam Morril?

  That's a great bit.

• 48:24Mark Normand?

  Great bit.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  No, yeah, Dame is the man. Man, I, I, yeah, I love him.

• 48:27Sam Morril?

  Yeah, very funny.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  And he was one of the first people I knew too from, from Stan. I would see him all over.

• 48:31Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. He got me in a Laugh Lounge. Remember Laugh Lounge in the Lower East Side?

• 48:35Speaker 02

  Lower East Side, yeah.

• 48:36Mark Normand?

  Him and the Vlad.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 48:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 48:38Sam Morril?

  I remember that. That room was great.

• 48:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah, when it was good, it was good.

• 48:41Sam Morril?

  When it was packed, it was great.

• 48:42Mark Normand?

  But they had that clunky door that would go da na na na na na. And then you were bombing, you heard the door open and close. It was brutal.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  When you know it's not going good.

• 48:50Mark Normand?

  Yeah, sounds are really, like if you're a blender or this shit, that's always a nightmare.

• 48:56Speaker 02

  And when I was on, uh, during the Beacon Show bombing.

• 49:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  I heard a siren. I was like, oh fuck.

• 49:04Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  You're not supposed to hear that.

• 49:06Mark Normand?

  Hear the street.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  I could hear the street. I heard the fucking lights change. It was like clink, clink.

• 49:14Speaker 02

  Oof.

• 49:15Mark Normand?

  How the hell did you bomb that?

• 49:16Speaker 02

  I just didn't, you know, like when you just don't know what your jokes are even gonna be?

• 49:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  You just don't know where to transition to. So it's a lot of like long pauses and a five second pause in a comedy show when you're, when you're out of shape feels like an eternity.

• 49:32Mark Normand?

  A hundred percent.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  So it was just.

• 49:33Sam Morril?

  Even if the jokes are good, if the transitions aren't seamless, they're like, what are you doing? You're not, they can tell you're not in control.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  And Ricky just killed.

• 49:40Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Ricky Velez just killed. So, and, and Matty just killed. So I was just like me following really good, conditioned comedians. And then I'm like, Mom, daddy.

• 49:54Sam Morril?

  Well, you know, people are leaving the theater like, Michael Che's slipping, dude.

• 49:57Mark Normand?

  They just love to rank it.

• 49:58Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're like, yeah, that guy.

• 50:00Sam Morril?

  So that's in your head when you leave too.

• 50:02Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 50:02Speaker 02

  It's, yes, 3,000 New Yorkers. You know, they're like, what the fuck was that?

• 50:06Mark Normand?

  And the worst is when you walk from a bomb back to a group of, it feels like when you bowl a gutter and you have to go back to the little, uh, little section there with the seats.

• 50:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like, it's like the, the dumb answer on Family Feud.

• 50:18Mark Normand?

  Okay. Good answer, yeah.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  It wasn't good. I was stupid.

• 50:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I misheard the question.

• 50:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  No, it was, it was brutal. But it's, it's, to me, it's like, uh,

• 50:32Speaker 02

  It's when I felt comfortable doing comedy in the sense of,

• 50:38Speaker 02

  if that's the worst that could happen, then it's all good.

• 50:41Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  You know, it's like, if that's the worst, if that's the worst feeling you can have, and it sucks, I could try.

• 50:47Mark Normand?

  Yeah, right.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  I could, I could swing the bat.

• 50:49Sam Morril?

  And it's how you respond to it. Like you, as Mark was saying earlier, it's like, ah, fuck, I got it right now.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  Oh, I went immediately to the cellar.

• 50:55Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  Immediately, I went like literally from the stage into a car to the cellar to do two spots. I was like, I have to get.

• 51:01Sam Morril?

  And were those better?

• 51:02Speaker 02

  They were way better.

• 51:02Mark Normand?

  All right. They got the rust off.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Eh, not off, but I, I got the stink off.

• 51:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  The stink off.

• 51:09Mark Normand?

  Sometimes it has the opposite. I opened for Schumer at Carnegie Hall, had the set of my life, Esti was there, people were throwing panties and roses at me. And I went to the cellar and we were, there was an after party. Schumer's like, are you retarded? I know, we're drinking, we're celebrating Carnegie Hall. And I was like, I gotta get one more in. And I ate my balls up there.

• 51:25Speaker 02

  That's the worst. That's the worst. That's like literally like staying too long at a crap table.

• 51:30Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  Why did I do that? I was just up.

• 51:34Mark Normand?

  Snake eyes.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  Why did I do that?

• 51:36Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:37Sam Morril?

  Carnegie Hall too is like, the fucking sound is brutal.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  I've only done, I've never done like a proper set there. I've only done like, um.

• 51:43Sam Morril?

  It's not good sound.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  It's not, it didn't feel good. And it's not good light either. It's like way too bright to me, at least what I did. I've only done like.

• 51:52Sam Morril?

  It's legendary, but it's just not, the beacon is iconic, like Town Hall, you feel like you can murder the New York rooms. That, that's, Carnegie Hall is built for music.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:01Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I opened for Jimmy Carr there. Front row, Louis CK.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  No shit.

• 52:05Mark Normand?

  I was like, what are you doing? I can see your fucking bald head, you ginger bitch.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  Radio City I don't, I don't love either.

• 52:12Mark Normand?

  I'm with you on that one.

• 52:13Sam Morril?

  I heard it's, I heard it's, uh.

• 52:14Mark Normand?

  Cavernous.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Very cavernous, yeah. Even like less, the Garden is somehow more intimate than Radio City.

• 52:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I get that.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  It's, it's crazy.

• 52:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I saw, I saw Mulaney's special there and I remember being like, oh, I can't believe he's taping here.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  At Radio City?

• 52:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 52:30Sam Morril?

  Oh, wow. Cause it's iconic and he's got that old timey like.

• 52:33Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 52:34Sam Morril?

  He's like weirdly.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  He looks like Radio City.

• 52:36Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 52:37Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 52:38Sam Morril?

  But he's got that kind of sentimental thing about like, cause you see, did that thing in January, where he's just doing every iconic.

• 52:43Mark Normand?

  Oh, how cool is that?

• 52:44Sam Morril?

  It's just, yeah.

• 52:45Mark Normand?

  Doing the cellar, Joe's Pub, uh, what's the Jazz Club? The one on Third.

• 52:51Sam Morril?

  The Blue Note.

• 52:52Mark Normand?

  Blue Note.

• 52:53Sam Morril?

  He's doing everything.

• 52:54Mark Normand?

  Carnegie, the Garden. It's a crazy run.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  That's really.

• 52:59Mark Normand?

  There it is. Bowery Ballroom, Beacon.

• 53:01Sam Morril?

  Carnegie, Radio City and MSG.

• 53:03Mark Normand?

  He's gonna sell it all out.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  That's really fly.

• 53:06Sam Morril?

  When you were, when you picked this venue in Minnesota, was it a place you had been and you're like, oh, I gotta come back here?

• 53:10Speaker 02

  I never played, I never played, uh, First Avenue before, but I had seen it before. And when we were looking at, I wanted something sort of in that sweet spot of like a thousand seats.

• 53:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  Somewhere around there, maybe fifteen hundred, maybe eight hun, whatever it was.

• 53:26Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 53:26Speaker 02

  So the, the venues we was looking at, they were like nice and they had that, you know, that, that spit shine on it and they were very pretty and they all looked good. But something about First Ave, it just felt really Minnesota. It felt like iconic to that, like, like doing the Apollo or some shit. You know what I mean? Like it just felt like a, a specific aesthetic. So, you know, it, it felt worn in. So when we seen it, it was like, okay, this is gonna be fun.

• 53:54Mark Normand?

  And I liked the standing. Something about people standing in a special makes it more fun.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  It just reminded me of those sort of, um, like those, those, uh, uh, knitting factory nights.

• 54:04Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 54:05Speaker 02

  Hill House nights, you know, like where it's just people standing or hovering around, like you can't, you can't fit another motherfucker in here.

• 54:11Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Like I wanted that vibe. I wanted it to be like.

• 54:14Mark Normand?

  Cabin.

• 54:15Speaker 02

  Those packed shows that we started at, you know, like that felt like, I don't know.

• 54:19Mark Normand?

  Well, cause these theaters, like the chandelier, the big red curtain, it does feel a little stuffy.

• 54:23Speaker 02

  It feels stuffy in a lot of specials, like one of my pet peeves. One of my pet peeves in watching specials.

• 54:31Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 54:31Speaker 02

  Is like, like sometimes in the shot, the audience isn't included. So you can't tell if that's a real laugh or a canned laugh.

• 54:39Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 54:40Speaker 02

  Because it's sort of just shot in a vacuum. You could have piped that in or.

• 54:44Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  So I wanted everything to, you could kind of see the audience, especially for the subject matter I was doing. Like you have to see that people are having a good time and it doesn't look like I'm cheating.

• 54:52Mark Normand?

  Good point.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  So that's, that was something that I, like I directed it. So that, that was something that I really wanted to make sure.

• 54:58Sam Morril?

  Well, you did the other one, I think it was when you did Michael Che Matters. Was it, was that the one in the?

• 55:03Speaker 02

  That was the, it was the same thing. That was in a Greenpoint. It was like an empty warehouse.

• 55:07Sam Morril?

  What you did to that, I went there to, cause I was like looking for venues and.

• 55:10Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah?

• 55:11Sam Morril?

  And I was like, wait, how the fuck did he do that with this? I remember going in there being like, what?

• 55:16Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 55:16Sam Morril?

  Cause you, you dressed it up so much, like.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. It looked completely different.

• 55:20Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 55:21Speaker 02

  It was completely raw.

• 55:23Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. That, that was, I didn't direct that though. That was Oz Rodriguez. He, he was, he was directing at SNL at the time. He did like a lot of those pre-tapes and all of that. And, uh, yeah, he knew what he was doing. That shit looked incredible. People still ask, where did you shoot that? It doesn't exist.

• 55:40Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  Literally. It's like that, that party George Costanza went to. It's just like, I'm telling you, it was here. It was like it wasn't there. Yeah.

• 55:47Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 55:48Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 55:48Speaker 02

  But this one, yeah, all of that, we kind of, we left a set list up. Like we didn't dress it.

• 55:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  We just, we just lifted the curtain. Like that's what it looks like. And then we just put a lip down on the stage because the only thing is since it's a music venue, since it's, um, standing room. It, the stage is so high.

• 56:06Mark Normand?

  Ah, it's no good.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  It's no good. So we, we kind of brought down a little, you know, uh, a little, uh, stage so that it could be in the middle of the people.

• 56:17Mark Normand?

  Beautiful.

• 56:18Speaker 02

  It was cool though.

• 56:19Mark Normand?

  Now I got in a fight with a guy because he said your title is a George Floyd reference.

• 56:26Mark Normand?

  I thought it was like a double entendre. I said, well, actually he was not, you know, that was a different.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  That was a whole other thing.

• 56:31Mark Normand?

  Yeah. So is that, what do you think?

• 56:34Speaker 02

  I think it's, it's, it's what you wanted to be. It's art.

• 56:37Mark Normand?

  All right. So I think I was right there.

• 56:39Speaker 02

  I don't wanna, I don't wanna ruin it for anybody. Yeah, well, it was, it is what it is, but it was shot in Minnesota and that's, and that's all I'll say about that.

• 56:46Mark Normand?

  All right. Uh, he owes me money.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, get your money, brother. You know, I'm team you. You guys, would you guys ever direct your own shit?

• 56:55Sam Morril?

  I did, I did my last one.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  Did you direct yours?

• 56:57Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Is that like stressful at all for you?

• 56:59Sam Morril?

  No, I, I, dude, less is more.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  You get a good DP, you don't really got.

• 57:03Mark Normand?

  That's what I did.

• 57:04Sam Morril?

  We had a great one and, and it's just like, comedy specials, less is more. It's like you were saying too about these like grand theaters you're in where you're like, yeah, there we go. That was, that was my idea, that set, but, uh.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  I'm loving the blue.

• 57:17Sam Morril?

  Yeah, dude, I had to, I had to pop a little bit. In Tampa, had to, had to, you know, a little bit of trashy elegance thing.

• 57:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah, a little strip club owner.

• 57:24Sam Morril?

  But you know, uh, I, when there's like a chandelier in there, you're like, they always hear a story like Houdini levitated out here. And you're just like, all right, well, am I gonna do the, the dick suck chunk right after? You feel a little gross. You're like, let's trash it up a little bit. Cause this is like an unpretentious form of entertainment, you know?

• 57:40Speaker 02

  It is, it's, it's supposed to be, but, but also I, I do think that we live in a world where it's, it's almost so humorless that it's become a delicacy, you know?

• 57:51Mark Normand?

  Totally, totally.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  Comedy is like, is like Oxtails. It's like, it's, it's supposed to be trash, but we've made it so good.

• 57:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. It's like lobster.

• 57:59Speaker 02

  We've made it look so good. Yeah, like lobster.

• 58:01Sam Morril?

  Jamaican food is like one of my.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  Brisked, you know, like it's supposed to be the worst thing. We just know how to do it. You know what I mean?

• 58:07Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  We just know how to make it and now it's a delicacy.

• 58:10Mark Normand?

  Yeah, we're squeezing lemon on an oyster, but it's still a fucking snout in a shell.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's still a bug.

• 58:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 58:16Sam Morril?

  When you have that fucking blender in the room, it's like such a reminder that you ain't shit.

• 58:21Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 58:21Sam Morril?

  You're just like, all right.

• 58:22Mark Normand?

  Also you go to these venues and they're like, Harry Houdini was here a hundred years ago. Last week was Stormy Daniels.

• 58:27Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 58:29Mark Normand?

  All right, this is still pretty, uh, lowbrow shit we're doing here.

• 58:32Speaker 02

  Uh, Stormy, Stormy Daniels.

• 58:34Sam Morril?

  She's catching strays like every week on this pod, I feel like.

• 58:36Mark Normand?

  All, all over my calendar is Stormy Daniels before me. It's her than me.

• 58:40Speaker 02

  Have you seen her, uh, work?

• 58:42Mark Normand?

  I have not. I'm, I've seen her online.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  Her, her work doesn't seem like the kind of work that I would be looking for in Lonely Night.

• 58:49Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 58:50Speaker 02

  Nah, she's, nah.

• 58:52Mark Normand?

  Too aggressive?

• 58:52Speaker 02

  No, it looks like it's probably like that, that Cinemax porn.

• 58:56Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. She's got a little of that.

• 58:58Sam Morril?

  It's like softcore.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. I don't know. I, from the titles, it's not like, you know, remember when you'd go to the video store and you look at the cases? That wouldn't be the one I picked up.

• 59:08Mark Normand?

  Interesting. Cause I did the research when she was in the news, you know? I did some, some watching and she was a real pro.

• 59:15Sam Morril?

  Oh, yeah. Expensive ticket. It's fifty to seventy-five at the Comedy Zone?

• 59:19Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 59:19Sam Morril?

  That's pricey.

• 59:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah, she's cleaning up, man. Everybody wants to hear, what's it like banging Trump?

• 59:24Speaker 02

  Hey, man.

• 59:25Mark Normand?

  That's a good credit.

• 59:26Speaker 02

  Seventy-eight bucks in Greensville, South Carolina is, that's a, that's a pricey ticket.

• 59:30Sam Morril?

  That's pricey as hell.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:32Mark Normand?

  I was just there.

• 59:34Sam Morril?

  Does Trump, has Trump trashed you publicly?

• 59:37Speaker 02

  Trump kind of leaves me alone.

• 59:40Mark Normand?

  That's, that's kind of disappointing.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, it's not disappointing. I like it. I think he, I think he likes it if it's good.

• 59:48Speaker 02

  That's what I tell myself. If it's a good joke, he'll, he'll just respect the game.

• 59:54Sam Morril?

  Were you there?

• 59:54Speaker 02

  How I sleep at night.

• 59:55Sam Morril?

  Were you there when he hosted?

• 59:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was there.

• 59:57Sam Morril?

  What, what year was it?

• 59:58Speaker 02

  That was, I wanna say, well, it was before the election. So it was, it was before he had a shot. So I'm gonna say fifteen.

• 1:00:06Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  Cause it was still like such a long shot before he, oh, I'm right. Yeah. It was like, it was like fifteen.

• 1:00:13Sam Morril?

  What were the vibes?

• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  Um, why are we having this motherfucker on here?

• 1:00:18Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:19Speaker 02

  Amongst the cast and, um, this is weird.

• 1:00:25Mark Normand?

  Right. Well, he was a New York icon and like a movie star, kinda.

• 1:00:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:31Sam Morril?

  TV star.

• 1:00:32Mark Normand?

  TV star.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Mark Normand?

  Home Alone, I guess.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wouldn't say movie star.

• 1:00:36Mark Normand?

  All right, all right.

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  He was a movie cameo.

• 1:00:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah, The Apprentice. There you go. He was a host.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  He was a TV star for sure. He's still a TV star.

• 1:00:44Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:00:44Speaker 02

  Me, but, um, yeah, I remember it being strange. It was strange.

• 1:00:51Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:51Speaker 02

  I was sharing the office with, with Tim Robinson and Zach Cannon and, uh, the guys that do, um, I Think You Should Leave.

• 1:00:59Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  And I remember as a bit, I had a, a Trump hat, like, in the office, you know, just kinda like this, like, just like tchotchkes and shit, just like ridiculous things. And he was like, dude, when he comes in here, you have to take that fucking hat down. I do not want him thinking that we fuck with this guy.

• 1:01:15Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  I was like, good call. But I, you know, cause like, you don't know, like, he might be like, oh, they did, they fucking love me.

• 1:01:21Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  But like, we, we didn't. It was, it was like an ironic thing.

• 1:01:24Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Speaker 02

  And, uh, I, yeah, so I, I remember people not fucking with it. But, you know, to me, it's like, I always feel like SNL is just sort of a magazine of what the country is.

• 1:01:37Mark Normand?

  Mmm.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  And that was the moment, you know?

• 1:01:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  It's like, uh, whether you like them or not, it's, you can look at that episode and know what year it was.

• 1:01:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  Or what time it was, you know? And I, I think stuff like that is interesting.

• 1:01:50Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  Like, I watch a lot of, like, old videos with, like, like Dick Cavett and he's interviewing all these crazy counterculture people and...

• 1:01:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  You know, like...

• 1:01:58Sam Morril?

  Those are great interviews.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  They're great.

• 1:02:00Mark Normand?

  The original Fox.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  They're great. So it's like, I, I, I think there's some of that in this, you know?

• 1:02:05Mark Normand?

  Uh, yeah. I'm with you.

• 1:02:06Sam Morril?

  I just read that Ari Emanuel book and there's a part of the book where he calls Trump after he won.

• 1:02:11Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:11Sam Morril?

  And he, and Trump, first thing he goes, he answers the phone immediately, right after he won the election and goes, "Am I your biggest client yet?"

• 1:02:17Mark Normand?

  Woo!

• 1:02:17Sam Morril?

  And that's the first thing he said. And he goes, "Nope, cause we have to fire..." He was like, happy he had to fire him.

• 1:02:22Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 1:02:23Sam Morril?

  He's like, "Cause I can't make money off you, Mr. President." He goes, "And I didn't vote for you." And he hung up.

• 1:02:26Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  That's crazy. I remember before the table read, he, he got on the phone, he's like, "Hello? Okay. Mm-hmm. All right. My book's number one." I was like, what? This is like the most insane shit. Yeah, like...

• 1:02:40Sam Morril?

  Different vibes than when Brunson hosted. That must've been fun.

• 1:02:42Mark Normand?

  What was that like?

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  Uh, I wasn't there for the table read. I didn't get there till that Thursday. Thursday. So I missed the, I missed the Wednesday table read, so I don't know what it was like.

• 1:02:56Mark Normand?

  Damn, I heard he did a bit about a horse.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  He said horse, guys. When you put the caption, make sure it says horse.

• 1:03:04Mark Normand?

  They're playing horse.

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  They're playing horse. That's what you said, right?

• 1:03:07Mark Normand?

  Sorry, yeah. Good call.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  You're good at that. You could, you could slip one in.

• 1:03:11Mark Normand?

  Hey, thanks. Uh...

• 1:03:13Sam Morril?

  Cosby too.

• 1:03:16Mark Normand?

  I would just love to meet the guy. He's just so cool.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  He's awesome. I did, I did get to, I got to meet him during the parade.

• 1:03:22Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  We were, uh, well, I don't even think that's when I met him, but, but we hung out, like, at, at the parade. Uh, we went to a bar and it was just like him and, and some of his, his friends and...

• 1:03:35Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  A few of the players and it was just like a weird fucking, I won't say where, but it was a bar where if anybody knew he was in there, they would've been fucking stormed.

• 1:03:46Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  The night of the, the night of the parade. But it, but no one knew and we just listened.

• 1:03:51Sam Morril?

  Did he have a drink?

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Uh, I, I don't know if I could say that or not.

• 1:03:55Sam Morril?

  Oh, well, I hope he had one. He deserves a fucking drink.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  He deserves it, but I, you know, I wasn't smelling cups. I don't know what the fuck was in there. But he was, he was having a good time, man.

• 1:04:05Sam Morril?

  The special's starting.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  They all looked like they were just like, literally cloud nine.

• 1:04:10Sam Morril?

  I feel like I blew, I did their pod and I feel like I really blew it with them because I, they, they were, it was like early in the year last year and they were coming off a three-game losing streak and they were in a bad mood. Like, why are we doing this podcast?

• 1:04:21Mark Normand?

  Mmm.

• 1:04:21Sam Morril?

  And I was like, can we, I kept saying, can we reschedule to people? And it was just, it was, you know, it's like when you're just podding with people and they're like, we don't wanna fucking be here.

• 1:04:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah. It's like, it's your pod.

• 1:04:31Sam Morril?

  I know, but I felt like I did not...

• 1:04:34Mark Normand?

  That was your Aziz show.

• 1:04:35Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:36Mark Normand?

  You felt like you tanked it.

• 1:04:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  But, but did they seem like that with you though?

• 1:04:41Sam Morril?

  No, they were nice guys. But also, I didn't know it's like a family show, so all my good lines got...

• 1:04:45Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:04:46Sam Morril?

  I remember at one point, they were talking about like Josh Giddy, they're like, oh God, he owns us. I was like, yeah, he's got your number. And I could think of another number he should've gotten. And Brunson like, like hit one of these, but of course it...

• 1:04:54Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:04:54Sam Morril?

  The good lines don't make it.

• 1:04:56Mark Normand?

  Of course, of course.

• 1:04:57Sam Morril?

  Cause it's like...

• 1:04:59Sam Morril?

  But I got, I got, I got him a break a couple of times, but...

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  Boy, that's, that's gotta suck, having a name like Giddy.

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  It's so close.

• 1:05:07Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  It's so close. There's so many fucking...

• 1:05:10Sam Morril?

  It's like Romo.

• 1:05:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, literally. Oh, wait a minute, I don't... I almost signed up for something. I don't know what you're talking about.

• 1:05:18Mark Normand?

  Be Giddy.

• 1:05:20Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  That's hilarious.

• 1:05:22Sam Morril?

  No, but that was, that was, that monologue with Brunson was really fun, dude. The, I thought the OG cameo killed me too.

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  I think that's, uh, I think Joes did that.

• 1:05:30Sam Morril?

  That was, I think my favorite part was...

• 1:05:32Speaker 02

  That was Joes' line. Joes, man, Joes got so much shit that people give Joes shit a lot and I, and I loved him for that.

• 1:05:37Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  Uh, he deserves all the shit that he gets. But he's written some of like, if you put a list of like the top 100 SNL moments of the past 20 years, Joes probably has about 40% of them.

• 1:05:49Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 1:05:50Speaker 02

  Like, he's, he's crazy prolific at that show.

• 1:05:53Sam Morril?

  Do you, do you, uh, do you have the bit in the special about bringing women to...

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  Is there truth to that? No. There's truth to him inviting me out, but there's no truth to me ever going to their house.

• 1:06:06Sam Morril?

  You don't wanna bring a girl to double with them?

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  Hell no.

• 1:06:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's a lot of pressure.

• 1:06:10Sam Morril?

  It's a lot.

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:06:11Sam Morril?

  You're putting her through it on...

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  One time I met a girl, I swear, she was really pretty and cool, but her name was Scarlett.

• 1:06:18Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  I cannot date poor Scarlett. Sorry. It's just impossible.

• 1:06:24Mark Normand?

  You got the stunt double.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  This will never work. I got other Scarlett.

• 1:06:29Sam Morril?

  A name with... Dude, my mom's name is Marilyn. I met a Marilyn, I'm like, I can't.

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  You can't. Can't do it. I can't. It's just her name. You're like, no, off limits. I'm sorry.

• 1:06:37Mark Normand?

  Damn, yeah. My mom's name is Liz. So when Liz at the cellar is like, "You fucking asshole," I'm like, this is about right.

• 1:06:43Sam Morril?

  And hot.

• 1:06:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:47Speaker 02

  Well, you guys, you guys must like double?

• 1:06:49Mark Normand?

  Ah, you know, I'm married with a kid now.

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, you don't double date?

• 1:06:53Mark Normand?

  No.

• 1:06:54Sam Morril?

  No, we haven't.

• 1:06:55Speaker 02

  You don't go...

• 1:06:56Sam Morril?

  I've gone out with...

• 1:06:56Mark Normand?

  I feel like that's when you would do it. I'd rather just hang out with him. I don't wanna hang out with my wife and kid and his girlfriend.

• 1:07:02Sam Morril?

  Yeah, but we could do a date night. We could bang out a date night and hang one.

• 1:07:06Mark Normand?

  That's true. That's true.

• 1:07:07Speaker 02

  I'm not in a relationship like that, so like, doesn't it sort of earn you more free time when you're like, hey, I'm gonna bring, let's bring the girls this time. And then when I tell them to watch the game, they'll let us...

• 1:07:20Mark Normand?

  I guess, but it would just be me and him going, hey, you see that new, uh, rock stop by and a bit about it? We'd just be huddled over here and then it would be...

• 1:07:26Sam Morril?

  But we feel like we do that anyway, if you have a thing. Mark will have a thing at his place sometimes and it's just us corner, in the corner.

• 1:07:32Mark Normand?

  Right. That's true.

• 1:07:33Sam Morril?

  Do you feel that pressure at all to, to meet someone or no?

• 1:07:37Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:07:37Mark Normand?

  That's good.

• 1:07:40Mark Normand?

  Don't do it.

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  This guy's sad.

• 1:07:46Mark Normand?

  Look, commitments are...

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  He laughed at that shit. Well, you're busy. I gotta say that, like, it makes me, it makes me seem more like mysterious. Ask me that question again.

• 1:07:54Sam Morril?

  Hey, uh, do you want love in your life, Mike?

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  Love?

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  I don't know the meaning of the word.

• 1:08:05Sam Morril?

  We gotta, we gotta do a smash cut of this as a teaser and we'll do, we'll do like Dateline.

• 1:08:09Mark Normand?

  Sappy music.

• 1:08:10Sam Morril?

  But let's be like, Mike, Michael Chab shares all.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  Dateline. Chris Hansen comes up.

• 1:08:16Sam Morril?

  I mean, fuck, I didn't mean Dateline. What the fuck did I mean?

• 1:08:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah. How old was that Scarlett?

• 1:08:20Sam Morril?

  Holy shit. Why the fuck, what, what show was I, what I mean?

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:24Mark Normand?

  Sixty Minutes?

• 1:08:25Sam Morril?

  Sixty Minutes, my man. God, why did I say Dateline? Why'd you saw the trailer for that movie? I'm a fucking idiot.

• 1:08:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, oh, yeah, to catch a predator.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  Dateline, Jesus.

• 1:08:32Sam Morril?

  Fuck, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to accidentally call you a pedo. What the fuck is wrong with me?

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  This has been a great, uh, press week for me.

• 1:08:40Mark Normand?

  Hey, there you go.

• 1:08:41Sam Morril?

  At least we didn't ask about Shane. That's something.

• 1:08:43Mark Normand?

  That lady really pushed you.

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much for not...

• 1:08:47Sam Morril?

  She was pushing it and it's like, you answered it perfect. It's like, shut up.

• 1:08:49Mark Normand?

  I know. Leave me alone.

• 1:08:51Speaker 02

  I don't know what these guys are talking about. I'm going deaf again.

• 1:08:54Sam Morril?

  Well, it's also like, well, like, we now have to answer on behalf of comedy?

• 1:08:58Mark Normand?

  I know. Get out of here.

• 1:09:00Sam Morril?

  Crazy.

• 1:09:01Mark Normand?

  I saw the joke a week before killing the VU. Boom. That's all you need to say.

• 1:09:06Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:06Mark Normand?

  People, if you blind, if I, if you were on a deserted island and I showed you the Shane set and I said, hey, what's the problematic part of this that everybody's going nuts over?

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  His face.

• 1:09:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I bet you wouldn't find it. That's when you know it's silly.

• 1:09:18Speaker 02

  His face.

• 1:09:21Sam Morril?

  No, I love shit. I, I think it's, uh, I, I, you know, I, I don't usually watch the whole episode, but I'll watch like the sketches online. And I thought what I see is, is always funny, man.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  I, I, I have no, uh, comment, but I will say that it is funny that this is the first time I could honestly say that I got in trouble for saying nothing.

• 1:09:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  It's, it's usually hyperbole, but it's true.

• 1:09:46Mark Normand?

  Well, you got the good move with the black squares and the, the swiping. That's a great little out. No, no, we all do this, but I'm so sorry. I wanna apologize if I offended. You got the three lines and you're done.

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's cause I don't have, I don't really have a camera face, so...

• 1:10:01Sam Morril?

  But it's also...

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  I can't find my angle on my own. I, I need a real artist.

• 1:10:04Sam Morril?

  But it's emotionless too, which I kinda like.

• 1:10:06Mark Normand?

  It's smart.

• 1:10:07Sam Morril?

  It's just like, this is it.

• 1:10:08Mark Normand?

  Cut and dry.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  I was, yeah, whatever.

• 1:10:11Mark Normand?

  I wanna do that with the divorce. I'm sorry.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  You're getting divorced?

• 1:10:15Mark Normand?

  No, I'm just joking. I'm joking. But I'm just saying.

• 1:10:18Sam Morril?

  But we bank these in advance. You probably will.

• 1:10:20Mark Normand?

  You thinking about divorce?

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, of course. I mean, it's, it's an option.

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  That's a fun thing to think about.

• 1:10:25Mark Normand?

  Well, you know, everything's an option.

• 1:10:26Sam Morril?

  You have to think about it.

• 1:10:27Mark Normand?

  Of course, I have to think about banging a guy.

• 1:10:30Sam Morril?

  It's an option.

• 1:10:31Mark Normand?

  It's an option.

• 1:10:34Sam Morril?

  But you're good.

• 1:10:34Mark Normand?

  All right, yeah, I'm good. I'm good on both. I don't wanna get divorced, I don't wanna bang a guy.

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  You sure?

• 1:10:40Mark Normand?

  If I do, I'll do them both in one day.

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  That was kinda unprompted.

• 1:10:43Mark Normand?

  Well, I'm trying to throw out other crazy scenarios.

• 1:10:45Sam Morril?

  Are you dating anyone?

• 1:10:47Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, I can't say. I wanna respect her privacy.

• 1:10:52Sam Morril?

  Hmm, all right, that's good.

• 1:10:54Mark Normand?

  That's fair.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  I wanna...

• 1:10:56Sam Morril?

  You're a busy guy, man, it's tough.

• 1:10:58Speaker 02

  I'm not a busy guy.

• 1:10:59Sam Morril?

  That job is demanding.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  I'm not a busy guy.

• 1:11:01Mark Normand?

  What is the schedule? I mean, you go in twice a week, every day?

• 1:11:05Speaker 02

  What, for SNL?

• 1:11:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  Oh, you're in six days a week.

• 1:11:08Mark Normand?

  Oh, damn.

• 1:11:09Sam Morril?

  That's tough to do with a relationship.

• 1:11:11Mark Normand?

  Totally, and night?

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  Six days a week, but, but, like, twenty-three weeks a year.

• 1:11:16Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  So you get summers, you get holiday breaks, you get off weeks. The thing is, though, the off weeks, you're usually so stressed that it almost takes like a week to just sort of decompress from everything that you was already doing.

• 1:11:32Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:11:33Speaker 02

  Working on the show, so it's hard to like do comedy right after an SNL week, cuz you're just like, I don't wanna even...

• 1:11:41Sam Morril?

  Do you stay at home, or do you just get on a plane and go somewhere?

• 1:11:43Speaker 02

  Usually, I'm like doing all of the shit that I missed out on during the week.

• 1:11:48Mark Normand?

  Hmm.

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  Typically. Um, now that I don't, I don't go in as much because I don't write as much, so, um, I, I haven't been that beat up.

• 1:12:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:01Speaker 02

  Which is why I was able to do the special, cuz that was the hardest part about doing the special. I could've shot the special maybe two or three years ago, but it's so hard to get that real estate

• 1:12:10Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  of, I'm a, I'm a conditioned touring comic right now, and I've worked this shit out, and, you know, you know how it is when you're getting ready for something.

• 1:12:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  So, you know, doing it two and three weeks at a time, you're always like, oh, this, this isn't, this isn't tight enough.

• 1:12:24Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  You don't feel like you're in shape, and as soon as you get in shape, you're back at the show, and then you're like trying to play catch-up the whole time.

• 1:12:30Mark Normand?

  Good point.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  So now, it's literally just, you know, getting back in shape.

• 1:12:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, you need that stage time, you need that momentum.

• 1:12:39Speaker 02

  You need that momentum, you need that, like, I can do whatever I want. There's like a, there's like a bulletproof moment you get about two, three months in on the road, where you're like, I can try anything.

• 1:12:48Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:12:49Speaker 02

  It might not work, but I, I know that I'm good.

• 1:12:52Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  I know that I can do this, and they've seen a professional.

• 1:12:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:56Sam Morril?

  You've got the foundation.

• 1:12:57Speaker 02

  You got the foundation.

• 1:12:58Sam Morril?

  You can kinda throw some shit at them.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  For sure, for sure.

• 1:13:01Mark Normand?

  It's like fighting a woman, you're like, I got this.

• 1:13:05Mark Normand?

  You know what I mean? You know, you're, when you're new at a bar fight with a guy, you're like, it's going either way, but if it's a lady, you're like, alright, this is, whatever I want.

• 1:13:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. I guess.

• 1:13:17Sam Morril?

  Mike's like, I finally got through an interview without any bullshit. What the hell?

• 1:13:20Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 1:13:24Mark Normand?

  Just saying.

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  Fighting a lady.

• 1:13:27Mark Normand?

  You know?

• 1:13:28Sam Morril?

  I'm explaining the craft, you know, it's kinda like hitting a woman.

• 1:13:31Speaker 02

  My god.

• 1:13:34Sam Morril?

  What the fuck are you doing?

• 1:13:35Mark Normand?

  That's kinda fight. Well, I'm just sad, I need an analogy. I was trying to help you guys. You guys were meandering.

• 1:13:43Mark Normand?

  Are you going on the road again, or you wanna plug anything?

• 1:13:45Speaker 02

  What, not now? I'm gonna wait till this kinda settles.

• 1:13:50Mark Normand?

  Fighting a woman tour.

• 1:13:53Mark Normand?

  Punching down, he calls it.

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  I hate that, I hate that for, another, it's annoying.

• 1:13:58Sam Morril?

  Pet peeve of mine.

• 1:13:59Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:00Speaker 02

  Can you explain the pet peeve thing?

• 1:14:02Sam Morril?

  People just, we just started complaining a lot, and it caught on.

• 1:14:04Speaker 02

  Okay, cool. That is another pet peeve of mine, is punching down or up, or, these are jokes, relax.

• 1:14:11Sam Morril?

  It's elitist as fuck.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  I'm not punching anybody.

• 1:14:14Mark Normand?

  Right, it's punch line.

• 1:14:15Sam Morril?

  It usually comes from a person of privilege.

• 1:14:18Mark Normand?

  Oh, a hundred percent.

• 1:14:19Sam Morril?

  And that's where I'm kinda like, shut the fuck, you used to have a great bit about this, you're offended on behalf.

• 1:14:24Mark Normand?

  You did on Letterman.

• 1:14:26Sam Morril?

  That was, it's a, that was a really good bit back in the day. I mean, it was.

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  How old am I, sixty-six years old?

• 1:14:34Sam Morril?

  That was an older bit, it was some...

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  No, it is, it is.

• 1:14:36Sam Morril?

  Hurricane Sandy, baby.

• 1:14:37Mark Normand?

  Even in the improv, I thought.

• 1:14:39Speaker 02

  We've had so many more natural disasters.

• 1:14:41Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Sadly.

• 1:14:42Sam Morril?

  Jeez.

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, but it is, it is sort of, there is sort of a tinge of privilege in those sentiments of punching down, and who, who you're allowed to make fun of and not, and you're like...

• 1:14:55Mark Normand?

  I know. I had a, I had a big bit about, uh, culture appropriation, about, I put a sombrero on me at a restaurant, at a Mexican restaurant, and took a photo for my birthday. So I posted it, and I got a million fuck you appropriation. Every Mexican guy wrote, you look great. Keep wearing it, fuck 'em. I'm Mexican, go for it.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, how'd you know they were Mexican? Were you just doing it once over?

• 1:15:15Mark Normand?

  I checked with ICE.

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  God damn it, he's fast. The fastest gun in New York.

• 1:15:23Sam Morril?

  Speedy Gonzales.

• 1:15:26Sam Morril?

  I gotta pee for you. My girlfriend does this shit. I buy like the case of the Spindrift seltzer.

• 1:15:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:31Sam Morril?

  She takes like two sips, pops a can, and just leaves it on the counter.

• 1:15:34Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's no good.

• 1:15:35Sam Morril?

  I hate, it's just feeling the weighted

• 1:15:36Mark Normand?

  That's no good.

• 1:15:37Sam Morril?

  Flat soda just infuriates me. I'm boiling with rage.

• 1:15:41Speaker 02

  I do that.

• 1:15:41Mark Normand?

  But you bought it at least.

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I bought it, but I do that.

• 1:15:44Sam Morril?

  If someone else is doing it, it does annoy you, though.

• 1:15:47Speaker 02

  I do it too much. I might think it's mine.

• 1:15:49Sam Morril?

  I finish a seltzer.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  You finish a whole seltzer, no matter what? I love a seltzer too, I only buy seltzer.

• 1:15:54Sam Morril?

  This one's not.

• 1:15:54Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:55Sam Morril?

  But usually I finish them.

• 1:15:56Speaker 02

  I, I, I, I sometimes just want, sometimes I just wanna sip to break the food in my mouth.

• 1:16:02Mark Normand?

  Uh-huh.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  I don't know why, like, it just cleanses the palate, and sometimes I don't need a whole can.

• 1:16:06Sam Morril?

  I love those Spindrifts, dude.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  I don't like Spindrifts, though.

• 1:16:09Sam Morril?

  No?

• 1:16:10Speaker 02

  It's too much flavor. I like the...

• 1:16:11Sam Morril?

  You like a flatter one?

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  I like, I like just regular, uh, what's the shit?

• 1:16:14Mark Normand?

  Nixie? Oh.

• 1:16:16Sam Morril?

  Which one?

• 1:16:17Speaker 02

  Nixie. N-I-X-I-E.

• 1:16:19Mark Normand?

  Look up Nixie.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  I get it at Whole Foods.

• 1:16:21Sam Morril?

  I don't ever heard of this.

• 1:16:22Speaker 02

  No, those are the best ones. Yeah, those.

• 1:16:24Mark Normand?

  All those, yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:26Sam Morril?

  I've never, I've never tried this, I gotta try this.

• 1:16:27Mark Normand?

  They kinda like soda.

• 1:16:28Speaker 02

  They're no sugar, no, it's, it's nothing, but they're clear too, so it's not like too much, it's not too much flavor. The strawberry hibiscus, the black cherry.

• 1:16:36Sam Morril?

  Ooh, that sounds good.

• 1:16:37Speaker 02

  Those are great.

• 1:16:38Sam Morril?

  We gotta wreck.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, those are great.

• 1:16:39Sam Morril?

  I'm trying it, dude.

• 1:16:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a free ad for you guys.

• 1:16:41Mark Normand?

  All right.

• 1:16:42Speaker 02

  Man, Nixie, holla at me.

• 1:16:44Mark Normand?

  This is a New York thing, this, I didn't grow up with seltzer. We put seltzer in a drink, and that was it. No one drank it, it was great.

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  Seltzer is a very New York.

• 1:16:50Mark Normand?

  I think it is.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  I think it's like, like, like, I think of like teachers.

• 1:16:54Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:16:54Speaker 02

  It's like a very New York City teacher.

• 1:16:57Mark Normand?

  Even like egg cream has seltzer in it and shit?

• 1:16:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:59Mark Normand?

  I don't, I didn't know.

• 1:17:00Sam Morril?

  I never got in.

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  Never had a...

• 1:17:02Sam Morril?

  Never got into it.

• 1:17:02Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay, that's a New York thing.

• 1:17:04Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 1:17:04Mark Normand?

  I think so.

• 1:17:05Sam Morril?

  It's like vanilla soda, I don't know.

• 1:17:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah, not a fan.

• 1:17:09Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I never, they always said it was a Jewish thing, but I never tried.

• 1:17:12Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:17:13Sam Morril?

  I had like one in my life.

• 1:17:14Mark Normand?

  Well, they're at all the delis.

• 1:17:15Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:16Speaker 02

  You're Jewish?

• 1:17:18Speaker 02

  Are you Jewish, Mark?

• 1:17:19Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 1:17:20Sam Morril?

  He's appropriating.

• 1:17:21Mark Normand?

  I'm transitioning.

• 1:17:22Sam Morril?

  He posted a picture in a yarmulke, and the Jew said it was okay. I was like, ah.

• 1:17:26Speaker 02

  Do they have Jewish people in Louisiana?

• 1:17:28Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, we got a little sect, we keep an eye on them.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  You get that a lot, do you get?

• 1:17:36Mark Normand?

  All the time, all the time. I get Jewish hate. People are like, look at this fucking he, blah, blah, blah, go back to Israel, pussy, and I'm like, I'm Italian.

• 1:17:44Sam Morril?

  You definitely don't seem Israeli.

• 1:17:45Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 1:17:46Sam Morril?

  You seem like a New York Jew, maybe, but not like...

• 1:17:47Mark Normand?

  That's true. Yeah, I get it all the time. I'm annoying, I'm a comedian, you know, all the big cheap.

• 1:17:53Sam Morril?

  Well, you are cheap.

• 1:17:54Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah, so...

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  Are you cheap?

• 1:17:55Mark Normand?

  Ah, I'm frugal.

• 1:17:57Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:17:58Mark Normand?

  Well, I'll spend money on other people, but not on me.

• 1:18:01Sam Morril?

  You, yeah, you don't spend money.

• 1:18:02Speaker 02

  That's surprising.

• 1:18:03Mark Normand?

  Really? Thank you.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  I would, I would imagine that you like to splurge.

• 1:18:07Mark Normand?

  No, I, like, I bought a car, I'll buy stuff, but it's, I'm not, I'm not splurging.

• 1:18:12Sam Morril?

  Like a classic car?

• 1:18:13Mark Normand?

  It is.

• 1:18:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:14Sam Morril?

  A Beamer?

• 1:18:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah, old Beamer.

• 1:18:16Sam Morril?

  What's a, what's a crazy Michael Chase splurge?

• 1:18:18Speaker 02

  I don't really splurge too much. I buy a lot of sneakers.

• 1:18:22Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:18:22Speaker 02

  But that's just because I like new sneakers, like, it reminds me of childhood, of like just having fresh sneakers. You feel like you could run faster, and it's just a confidence boost, having something fresh on your feet.

• 1:18:33Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:18:33Speaker 02

  But other than that, yeah, I don't know how to drive, so I don't care about cars. That is a fly.

• 1:18:37Sam Morril?

  We are both New York-ese, man. I can't drive either.

• 1:18:40Speaker 02

  You can't drive either?

• 1:18:41Sam Morril?

  I have a license, but I'm shit, I don't wanna drive.

• 1:18:43Speaker 02

  I don't know how to drive, yeah, so I...

• 1:18:44Mark Normand?

  I would love to teach you guys how to drive.

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:18:47Mark Normand?

  That would be a great show. I can do stick shift, we can drink, whatever you want.

• 1:18:51Speaker 02

  Well, I don't think we should drink.

• 1:18:52Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay. But look at that thing.

• 1:18:55Speaker 02

  I don't think that's smart. This guy wants to hit his wife and drive drunk. You really are a man.

• 1:19:03Sam Morril?

  That is a good character, the guy who take her, you said, and just makes it terrible.

• 1:19:06Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:19:07Sam Morril?

  It's like hitting your wife, that's not what I was saying.

• 1:19:10Mark Normand?

  That is a good character.

• 1:19:11Speaker 02

  Not what I said at all.

• 1:19:13Mark Normand?

  Round taillights are really fun, by the way.

• 1:19:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's beautiful. Is that like a...

• 1:19:18Mark Normand?

  It's an old BMW, nineteen seventy-three.

• 1:19:20Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, early eighties. Oh, damn, seventies.

• 1:19:23Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  That must've been sexy as fuck in the seventies.

• 1:19:26Mark Normand?

  This car saved BMW.

• 1:19:28Speaker 02

  Nothing like the other seventies cars.

• 1:19:30Mark Normand?

  Exactly. This is right German, they were, the Beamer was tanking, and they put this out, and it blew up.

• 1:19:35Speaker 02

  No shit?

• 1:19:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's a fun, fun model.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  So like, when you get something like that serviced, that's like impossible.

• 1:19:42Mark Normand?

  I have a guy, I have a guy in Jersey, I have to bring it to.

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:19:45Sam Morril?

  Driving it, yeah, driving it there.

• 1:19:47Speaker 02

  Cuz BMWs are already hard to service.

• 1:19:49Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 1:19:50Speaker 02

  And you've got one from the seventies, which is like, you need like a fucking time machine.

• 1:19:54Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:19:55Speaker 02

  They don't even make those wrenches anymore.

• 1:19:57Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:19:57Speaker 02

  So is this like, like a Seinfeld wreck, where he's like, hey?

• 1:20:02Mark Normand?

  He does love the car. He, when I bought it, he gave me a quick call when I posted it.

• 1:20:05Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 1:20:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah, he was like, that's a great car, great choice, and I was like, I did it for you. Yelled three palis die to the okay.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  Oh, you suck.

• 1:20:22Speaker 02

  That's kinda cool though. Was Seinfeld your guy?

• 1:20:25Mark Normand?

  He, it was Rock, Seinfeld and Carlin were for me.

• 1:20:28Sam Morril?

  And Norm.

• 1:20:29Mark Normand?

  And Norm, and Norm.

• 1:20:30Sam Morril?

  Norm.

• 1:20:31Mark Normand?

  Norm was huge. I didn't know you could do that kinda comedy.

• 1:20:34Sam Morril?

  Who was like your guy when you were starting?

• 1:20:35Speaker 02

  Starting?

• 1:20:36Sam Morril?

  Yeah. Or before starting?

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  I would say it was probably Rock and Carlin. And Patrice.

• 1:20:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, sure.

• 1:20:47Speaker 02

  And, uh,

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  Quinn.

• 1:20:52Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:20:54Speaker 02

  As a kid, I loved Damon Wayans.

• 1:20:57Mark Normand?

  Me too.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  I mean, Chappelle's always been Chappelle, you know, Chappelle and Chappelle.

• 1:21:00Sam Morril?

  Damon Wayans kinda doesn't get as do as a stand-up though.

• 1:21:02Speaker 02

  I think it's crazy that I never hear his name from that time. But it was a time when it was Eddie Murphy and Damon Wayans.

• 1:21:10Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:21:11Speaker 02

  Up until about Chris Rock.

• 1:21:13Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:21:14Speaker 02

  Damon Wayans was the guy, man.

• 1:21:15Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't know why people have such amnesia.

• 1:21:19Mark Normand?

  Well, he's almost cursed because his characters, like Homie the Clown and Men on Film, like those were so fucking funny that you forget about the stand-up.

• 1:21:25Sam Morril?

  But his stand-up was fucking tight.

• 1:21:27Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  Stand-up was amazing and his characters was amazing. Like, he could do anything.

• 1:21:31Sam Morril?

  And he, and he's, he has some good movies, even the bad movies, I kinda like.

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  I liked The Great White Hope.

• 1:21:36Mark Normand?

  So did I.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  Great White Hype, excuse me.

• 1:21:37Mark Normand?

  Great White Hype with Samuel L. Jackson.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  Hilarious and his sitcom was great.

• 1:21:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  Damon Wayans is like, it's crazy.

• 1:21:44Sam Morril?

  Dude, I like Bulletproof.

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  Major Pan.

• 1:21:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Blank Man.

• 1:21:47Speaker 02

  Blank Man, Blank Man is like a clap. Mo Money was like.

• 1:21:50Sam Morril?

  The Last Boy Scout, holy shit.

• 1:21:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, he had a run.

• 1:21:52Sam Morril?

  Shane Black, that was the one he got like an advance of like two million for that script. That's one like script for pot.

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  What, Blank Man?

• 1:21:59Sam Morril?

  No, Last Boy Scout.

• 1:22:00Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:22:00Mark Normand?

  Well, he had Willis.

• 1:22:02Sam Morril?

  Oh, yeah. Remember he played the gay guy in Beverly Hills Cop?

• 1:22:04Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  Remember he played the gay guy in Saturday Night Live? That's how he got fired.

• 1:22:09Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, he got fired because, uh, they gave him a role just like as a support, like a cop. You're supposed to be just a cop in a sketch. And he just played it as a gay guy.

• 1:22:20Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  What are you doing? This is like so distracting.

• 1:22:25Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:25Speaker 02

  Like fired him on the spot.

• 1:22:26Sam Morril?

  By the way, Celtic, Colin Quinn wrote.

• 1:22:28Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:22:29Sam Morril?

  And.

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  Quinn wrote that?

• 1:22:30Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:30Speaker 02

  I didn't know that.

• 1:22:31Sam Morril?

  Damon Wayans.

• 1:22:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, uh, Bamboozled, which is like a classic.

• 1:22:36Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Is that a Spike Lee?

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  Bamboozled is a Spike Lee.

• 1:22:39Mark Normand?

  Uh huh.

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:41Mark Normand?

  Oh, he's in Roxanne. He's a fireman. I mean, this guy, Earth Girls are easy.

• 1:22:44Speaker 02

  Oh, I forgot he was in Roxanne.

• 1:22:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah, he's one of the fire dudes.

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  Steve Martin is another guy like in my household that was just fucking crazy. I think Steve Martin was probably the first person I met at Saturday Night Live that made me starstruck.

• 1:22:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:59Speaker 02

  I was like, what the, that's Steve Martin. Like, that was like the craziest.

• 1:23:03Mark Normand?

  That is crazy.

• 1:23:04Sam Morril?

  Was he called Guyton?

• 1:23:05Speaker 02

  He was the, he's the coolest guy. Like, the coolest guy. I remember he asked me, he was like, when you do stand-up, like, what do you wear? And I was like, why are you talking like you're not Steve Martin? That you didn't do fucking football stadiums in the seventies when that wasn't even a thing, you know?

• 1:23:21Mark Normand?

  That'd be funny if you were like, I go with a white suit, arrow through the head.

• 1:23:25Speaker 02

  He was playing football stadiums when like football teams wasn't selling out football stadiums.

• 1:23:30Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  Like, he was that guy.

• 1:23:31Mark Normand?

  That is true. Yeah, he said he saw like two empty seats eventually and was like, I'm out. This is on the way down.

• 1:23:37Sam Morril?

  He said he quit because of the Friday Late Show.

• 1:23:39Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:23:40Sam Morril?

  Wait, what? That's, that was in his book.

• 1:23:42Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:23:42Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:43Mark Normand?

  Good book.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  He told me one time, I think he, well, I don't know, I don't know if this is in the book as well, but he told me one time, like as a TV star, he'd walk in a room and people would be like excited to see him. And then a movie star would walk in and they'd be like, oh, like the reverence. And he was like, oh, I gotta do movies. Like, that was like, it was like a different type, level of, of respect that, that movie stars got than TV stars.

• 1:24:09Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:24:10Speaker 02

  I think now it might be flipped.

• 1:24:12Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:24:13Speaker 02

  I think TV stars, I don't know.

• 1:24:16Mark Normand?

  No, you might have like, uh, Bryan Cranston might trump Jeff Bridges.

• 1:24:21Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:24:21Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  Well, shout out to Jeff Bridges.

• 1:24:23Mark Normand?

  No, I like Jeff.

• 1:24:24Sam Morril?

  Hey, we love the dude, man.

• 1:24:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's, that could be true.

• 1:24:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:28Speaker 02

  But you see, like, all the big movie stars are doing TV now.

• 1:24:31Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 1:24:31Speaker 02

  I just saw Eddie Murphy's doing like a fucking TV.

• 1:24:34Sam Morril?

  The fucking Matthew Weiner, dude.

• 1:24:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:36Mark Normand?

  What?

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  That's gonna be crazy.

• 1:24:38Mark Normand?

  Holy shit.

• 1:24:39Sam Morril?

  I wonder, yeah, I wonder.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  Man, I can't wait for that. I mean, I'm a, I'm an Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, of course, is the guy.

• 1:24:45Mark Normand?

  Sure, sure. We got to see him. We were about five feet away from him at the Netflix, uh, brunch.

• 1:24:50Speaker 02

  Is that right?

• 1:24:51Sam Morril?

  We're not saying shit.

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:52Mark Normand?

  I was like, oh, man, Segura went up, bombed, and I said, I'm staying over here.

• 1:24:55Sam Morril?

  Yeah, yeah, we're not doing that. We'll stay, we'll stay in our place.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  I remember during, uh, the person I ever seen him in person was SNL 40th anniversary. And I remember we would, everybody was, we was in the, um, uh, in the studio for rehearsals. They was rehearsing, um, The Jeopardy with Will Ferrell.

• 1:25:12Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:25:12Speaker 02

  Norm and all those guys.

• 1:25:13Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:25:14Speaker 02

  And, uh, you know, so just like people just kinda like floating in. And I remember, uh, Jack Nicholson and, and, and Paul McCartney walked in.

• 1:25:25Mark Normand?

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:25:26Speaker 02

  Together, they're talking and people are just like snapping, bitch.

• 1:25:28Sam Morril?

  That's wild.

• 1:25:29Speaker 02

  And then fucking Eddie Murphy walks in. Everybody stops taking pictures and starts taking pictures of Eddie Murphy. And I was like, these motherfuckers just walked away from Jack Nicholson and a Beatle.

• 1:25:40Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:25:40Speaker 02

  To take pictures of Eddie Murphy. It was just, it was crazy.

• 1:25:43Sam Morril?

  That's a crazy role, people.

• 1:25:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was like, it was nuts. It was literally like, you'll see like the, uh, the backstage of the Dream Team, like in Barcelona.

• 1:25:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  That's what it felt like. It was like, oh, Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and everybody's here. It was that.

• 1:25:58Sam Morril?

  Oh, dude, seeing, seeing the way my dad would laugh at Eddie Murphy growing up was like, I was like, oh, shit, my dad is like, it's hard to make him laugh. And he'd throw on Beverly Hills Cop and he'd be fucking laughing. I remember in the theater.

• 1:26:10Speaker 02

  And it wasn't even a comedy.

• 1:26:11Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 1:26:12Speaker 02

  He made it funny. He made it funny.

• 1:26:14Sam Morril?

  Well, it's supposed to be Stallone, right?

• 1:26:15Speaker 02

  It's supposed to be Stallone. It's supposed to be an action movie.

• 1:26:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:18Sam Morril?

  But the action scenes are good. It's just a great movie.

• 1:26:20Speaker 02

  It's a great movie.

• 1:26:21Sam Morril?

  But dude, I remember seeing Nutty Professor in the theater with my dad.

• 1:26:24Speaker 02

  I don't think I heard a, a theater laugh that hard.

• 1:26:27Sam Morril?

  Dude, that fart scene, the crazy part of that movie is that like Eddie Murphy's never in Oscar discussions where I'm like, you made all these characters like actual human beings.

• 1:26:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, with the fat suits.

• 1:26:38Sam Morril?

  He's made the mom like, like a sweet one. He made the dad like a, uh, he made them all like humans.

• 1:26:42Mark Normand?

  Totally, totally.

• 1:26:43Sam Morril?

  You're not just doing caricatures. I'm like, dude, that, that's more impressive than any shit.

• 1:26:47Speaker 02

  Jim Carrey too, like this shit that Jim Carrey does where you're like, how the fuck is this not the best thing an actor's done this year?

• 1:26:53Mark Normand?

  No respect for comedy.

• 1:26:54Speaker 02

  There's a great, there's a great picture at 30 Rock. It's like, it's Bill Murray doing Jaws, the lounge singer doing the show.

• 1:27:00Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:01Speaker 02

  And it's Eddie Murphy sort of watching in the wings and he's just like reacting to Bill Murray because that's what he grew up on. So like, we're watching, you know, it's just like a crazy sort of circle of,

• 1:27:11Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:11Speaker 02

  damn, you know, that's, that's when it feels special.

• 1:27:14Mark Normand?

  That's crazy. Well, all right, well, we gotta get you out of here.

• 1:27:17Sam Morril?

  We gotta get you out of here. Watch the special, Michael Che shot in Minnesota on Netflix.

• 1:27:22Mark Normand?

  It was in the top 10 last time I looked, but who knows now.

• 1:27:24Speaker 02

  And, and pay Mark his money. He wins the bet.

• 1:27:28Mark Normand?

  Thank you, thank you.

• 1:27:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's got more cars to buy.

• 1:27:32Sam Morril?

  Yeah, well, thanks, Mike, dude. We appreciate it, man.

• 1:27:34Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me, man. That was fun. And that whiskey's very tasty.

• 1:27:37Mark Normand?

  Thank you, sir. Bodega Cat, folks. Michael Che approved.

• 1:27:42Mark Normand?

  I'll do a pic and get you out of here.

• 1:27:43Sam Morril?

  Plug dates later.

• 1:27:44Mark Normand?

  All right. Hey, that was great. You're easy to talk to.

• 1:27:49Sam Morril?

  That was awesome, dude.

• 1:27:50Mark Normand?

  I'll be in Portland, Oregon. We, we had some shows, so come on out. I love that club. I love that town. Uh, San Jose at the Improv. That's a big room, so, uh, say hello, please. Tropicana, uh, in Atlantic City. Never been there. Heard about it since I was a kid. Okay.

• 1:28:05Sam Morril?

  They stole me money from back in the day.

• 1:28:07Mark Normand?

  Oh, jeez. All right, I'll get the check up front. Wind City, Wind Creek Event Center, Bethlehem, PA. Vegas, Indio, Charlotte, North Cracolacka and, uh, Cedar Showroom in Foxwoods. And have a happy holidays. Where you at there, Samuel?

• 1:28:23Sam Morril?

  Well, make sure to watch the new special, Incorrect, on Netflix, please. I appreciate all the love. Thank you so much for watching it. I'll be, uh, November 13th through 15th at Stand Up Live in Phoenix. The following weekend, November, uh, 19th through 21st at the Pittsburgh Improv. Then, uh, December 3rd through 5th, I'll be at Hilarious in Cleveland. These are all great clubs.

• 1:28:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:41Sam Morril?

  December 10th through 12th, Madison, Wisconsin. I'm gonna add shows at a few of these too. And then, uh, December 17th through 19th, Timonium, Maryland. And what else we got? Uh, Miami Improv, first, uh, the beginning of January there. It looks like the 8th through the 10th. Yeah, perfect. And then, uh, yeah, it looks like, uh, the new West Palm Beach Improv the following weekend. So Florida and then Florida, back to back, then Jacksonville in February. So just adding a bunch of dates, a lot of dates on samuel.com/shows. Follow us both on Punch Up. Get yourself a bottle of Bodega Cat whiskey. Michael Che approved. He loved it. And, uh, yeah, we're gonna make a big push with Bodega Cat. A lot of cool shit coming, new merch coming. We got, uh, you know, we're, we're gonna make some moves, I think, here.

• 1:29:22Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Things about to level up and all these sold out shows will be serving drink specials. So if you haven't tried it, you'll come to a show and have a swig. Thanks, folks. We'll see you next time. Comedy, praise Allah. We're really doing it.

• 1:29:35Speaker 03

  Sunday's the day for my next offender. A bit of Pivac, you know the future's close. I've had a little too much bourbon and Norman's talking shit about the fucking Pope. And I get down in the same way. Up on the roof like a cop's coming and naked Samuel is feeling dangerous. I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans. This woman doesn't look like I remember her. And I get down in the same way. We might be true.

• 1:30:21Speaker 04

  Welcome to the 50th Hunger Games.

• 1:30:23Speaker 05

  Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 1:30:25Speaker 04

  Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 1:30:28Speaker 05

  Filmed for IMAX.

• 1:30:30Speaker 04

  Make them remember you.

• 1:30:32Speaker 05

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping, November 20th, rated PG-13.