Ken Marino & David Wain w/ Mark Normand & Sam Morril - We Might Be Drunk Podcast

Ken Marino and David Wain join Mark and Sam to talk about writing and directing movies, Party Down, Wet Hot American Summer, The State, New York in the '90s, movie theaters making a comeback, comedy careers, and the making of their new film, Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sexpass. Plus, Knicks heartbreak, mugging stories, favorite films, and plenty of classic comedy tangents. Sponsored by: Text DRUNK to 64000 for 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Order now at https://drinkwillies.com and use code WMBD for 20% off your first order + free shipping on orders over $95. Try Quo free plus get 20% off your first six months at https://quo.com/WMBD. To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/DRUNK. 🎧 Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWMBD 🛒 Merch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ 🎬 Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets ⸻ 🎙️ Check out That Sounds Right — the comedy panel show hosted by the producer of WMBD: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsoundsrightshow Produced by Gotham Production Studios: https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com @GothamProductionStudios | Producer: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters #WeMightBeDrunk #MarkNormand #SamMorril #KenMarino #DavidWain #GailDaughtryAndTheCelebritySexpass #PartyDown #WetHotAmericanSummer #TheState #ComedyPodcast #StandUpComedy #BodegaCatWhiskey00:00 Summer Vibes & Knicks Drama 03:01 Game Night Stories & Arena Adventures 07:03 Knicks vs Spurs, Fans & Controversy 12:13 Team Banter, Drinks & Welcoming the Guests 16:34 Middle-Aged Dad Jam Band & Movie Talk 20:27 Inside Indie Filmmaking: Advice & Anecdotes 27:52 Writing, Acting & Breaking Into TV 33:36 Movie Production Tips & Lessons Learned 38:13 Ad Reads & Sponsored Segments 41:43 Comedy Careers & Career Uncertainty 46:39 NYC Stories, Changing Neighborhoods & Food 51:25 NYC Mugging Tales & Street Smarts 55:10 Movie Plug: Gail Dory & Celebrity Sex Pass 01:01:02 Editing Comedies & Last-Minute Movie Advice 01:05:04 Directing & Choosing Your Crew 01:10:07 Old TV, Commercial Nostalgia & Childhood Icons 01:13:18 Legendary Guests & Surreal Hollywood Moments 01:20:49 Working with Icons & Celebrity Encounters 01:25:09 Upcoming Projects, Comedy Tours & Final Shoutouts 01:26:21 Outro Song & Podcast Wrap-Up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:06Mark Normand?

  Hey, hey, folks, here we are, we're back. It's a sunny summer day out there in Manhattan. I'm sweating.

• 0:12Sam Morril?

  It's hot, buddy.

• 0:13Mark Normand?

  I'm wearing all Fabletics, top to bottom.

• 0:15Sam Morril?

  I love that stuff.

• 0:16Mark Normand?

  Great stuff. Thank you.

• 0:18Sam Morril?

  I like free stuff.

• 0:19Mark Normand?

  Yeah. And this is better than anything I own. It's like nicely made and there's no stains on it.

• 0:24Sam Morril?

  Yeah, wonder why it's so cheap.

• 0:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 0:26Sam Morril?

  It's good stuff.

• 0:27Mark Normand?

  They're hooking it up.

• 0:28Sam Morril?

  I'm hurting, dude. I'm just like, this Knicks series is taking years off my life. It's crazy.

• 0:34Mark Normand?

  I know, I know. It's like a Shakespeare drama. The ups, the downs, the hate, the fighting, the joy. The city's abuzz. There was a brawl in Bryant Park, by the way. Um, then the Trump stuff, threw a wrench in it. It's like, this is like a movie, there's so many layers.

• 0:49Sam Morril?

  It took a long time to get into the arena because of the Trump stuff.

• 0:52Mark Normand?

  I bet. Then he fell asleep.

• 0:53Sam Morril?

  I know.

• 0:55Mark Normand?

  Tyler, my PM, Prime Minister.

• 0:57Sam Morril?

  Dude, it was, that was wild. I went to game one in San Antonio, flew down, text Shane Gillis. I was like, are you going tonight? And he goes, nah, the tickets are too expensive, I don't want to. And then he, look, he's like, they just went down, I'm gonna go.

• 1:09Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:10Sam Morril?

  So he's like, come over, I'll get a party bus. We'll go together.

• 1:13Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:14Sam Morril?

  McCusker, Shane, you know, Tommy Pope, we had a crew. My boy Chase was there. We, uh, pounding White Claws on the way. Shane's, White Claws, it's a good sports drink. Cause they go down easy, gets the buzz going, then he gets switched to something else.

• 1:28Mark Normand?

  All right, all right, I'm a high noon man.

• 1:30Sam Morril?

  It's all the same shit.

• 1:31Mark Normand?

  Eh, one is vodka, one's malt liquor.

• 1:34Sam Morril?

  High noon is vodka?

• 1:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's the beauty of it. It's a vodka, it's like an RTD, it's a vodka soda.

• 1:40Sam Morril?

  I didn't even know that.

• 1:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. I learned that the hard way, but.

• 1:44Sam Morril?

  Well, uh, we were going down, Shane's, he's blasting like New York State of Mind. He's blasting like Nas.

• 1:50Mark Normand?

  What a night.

• 1:51Sam Morril?

  You know, uh.

• 1:52Mark Normand?

  I like how he went from, I'm not spending any money, to I'll buy tickets and get a party bus. Those party buses aren't, uh, aren't cheap.

• 1:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it was pretty wild.

• 2:00Mark Normand?

  I love it.

• 2:00Sam Morril?

  And that game was crazy. Spurs fans are pretty cool, honestly. They were pretty respectful. They were fucking with me a little, but it was playful, it was cool.

• 2:07Mark Normand?

  Okay. Somebody had the great tweet, did you see that? When the Wemby and all the guys are walking into the arena out of the bus? One guy looks like, this looks like the integration of schools. Cause like the black kids and everybody's like, fuck you bitch, fuck you. All the, like, New York, Long Island guys are like, kill yourself bitch. And they're like.

• 2:25Sam Morril?

  It was, it did feel like a bit of a war, because after the game, everyone was cool, but there were some, all the Knicks fans kinda banded together, were all like high-fiving and shit. And then, uh, and then a few, a few of those hardcore Latino, uh, Spurs fans were like, "Motherfucker, you better watch yourself." And like, we're all circling each other.

• 2:39Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's great.

• 2:40Sam Morril?

  It was wild, but, uh, yeah, it was, it was, it was an experience, man. I've never, I kept chickening out, and I was like, it's now or never, man.

• 2:47Mark Normand?

  Yes. You don't have to tell us what you spent, but was it more than ten?

• 2:51Sam Morril?

  No.

• 2:51Mark Normand?

  Okay. More than five?

• 2:53Sam Morril?

  I don't, that's, stop the conversation. It was a lot.

• 2:55Mark Normand?

  All right, well, you got no children, or pets, you're fine, no roommates?

• 3:01Sam Morril?

  I got nothing.

• 3:02Mark Normand?

  You got nothing. Oh, jeez.

• 3:03Sam Morril?

  No, this is AI, this isn't real.

• 3:05Mark Normand?

  You sure? Looks pretty real.

• 3:07Sam Morril?

  It's real.

• 3:07Mark Normand?

  Ah, good for this guy, hanging on.

• 3:09Sam Morril?

  Not good. You got, what are you doing, New Yorkers? Come on, that's disrespect.

• 3:12Mark Normand?

  We're not an open carry state.

• 3:14Sam Morril?

  If that's the referee, then you do it to the referee who fucked us. You don't do it to them. You wanna hear some shit?

• 3:19Mark Normand?

  Totally.

• 3:19Sam Morril?

  I see Josh Safdie at the Knicks game, Mark Davies, the ref who fucked us in game three, walks over to him and hands him a card and goes, "You're my son's favorite director, he's a filmmaker, so now I'm fucking, I know this about Mark Davies, I'm gonna heckle his ass." "Your kid's work is derivative. He's a trash filmmaker, bro. Your son fucking sucks."

• 3:38Mark Normand?

  He's a half-dee. Yeah, you wish you were Josh.

• 3:42Sam Morril?

  Damn, dude.

• 3:43Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's great. Good for the kid to have a favorite director. Let's go, oh, I guess he's in film school.

• 3:47Sam Morril?

  Yeah, he's in film. What is that, who cares?

• 3:49Mark Normand?

  I'm just saying.

• 3:50Sam Morril?

  He's ref, he screwed us. We played like shit, we played like shit in game three, but, uh, we didn't play well enough.

• 3:56Mark Normand?

  I thought it was pretty, pretty gutsy.

• 3:58Sam Morril?

  There were some fucked up calls. They're protecting Wemby like a motherfucker.

• 4:01Mark Normand?

  I mean, that neck throw-down was crazy.

• 4:03Sam Morril?

  Crazy, that, well, because he gets one more flag when he's suspended, so they're protecting him.

• 4:07Mark Normand?

  Oh, interesting.

• 4:08Sam Morril?

  Because he's gotten too many, yeah, I mean, it's fucking crazy.

• 4:11Mark Normand?

  He's got no experience. He's a very good player, but he's-

• 4:13Sam Morril?

  He's very talented.

• 4:14Mark Normand?

  He's too young and, um, although, you see that photo of him sketching in the park?

• 4:19Sam Morril?

  It's starting to annoy me.

• 4:22Sam Morril?

  We get it. You're a fucking jack of all trades. You're a renaissance man. Enough.

• 4:25Mark Normand?

  But that's the French in him, clearly. No American black guy's like, let me, uh, paint this flower, this lilac. Look at this kid. I mean, I kinda-

• 4:34Sam Morril?

  He's a really good player.

• 4:35Mark Normand?

  I love that.

• 4:36Sam Morril?

  But he's starting to annoy me. Like, I think people are gonna start to see he's pretty dirty. It's also like, he can't be 7'5" and dirty.

• 4:43Mark Normand?

  Yes, exactly.

• 4:44Sam Morril?

  He can't be the best.

• 4:45Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 4:45Sam Morril?

  It's like if Clooney was roofing women. You're already super hot. Stop.

• 4:50Mark Normand?

  That's a good point.

• 4:51Sam Morril?

  Just do it on your skill.

• 4:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah, exactly. You have the skill. Yeah, also, you're that, you're that tall. We're gonna see it.

• 4:59Mark Normand?

  And Brunson's a shorter guy, so it's like, the height imbalance is a power imbalance. It's not fair.

• 5:05Sam Morril?

  It's fucking annoying, dude.

• 5:06Mark Normand?

  Brunson, tough as nails. What, you see what the aviator's on in the press conferences? And he's like, what'd you think?

• 5:11Sam Morril?

  I mean, look at this shit. And it's like, and his parents are like, his mom's 6'3" and his dad's 6'7", which feels like they did it on purpose, which is also annoying.

• 5:18Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 5:19Sam Morril?

  It feels like, like, you know-

• 5:20Mark Normand?

  Like Yao Ming.

• 5:21Sam Morril?

  They're trying to make the greatest. Like, it feels very eugenics.

• 5:23Mark Normand?

  Completely.

• 5:24Sam Morril?

  It feels like Hitler would have loved this shit.

• 5:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 5:26Sam Morril?

  Hitler would have been a Wemby fan, guys.

• 5:30Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's quite a push. Jesus.

• 5:32Sam Morril?

  I don't care for it. I don't care for it.

• 5:34Mark Normand?

  Did you, I saw one clip-

• 5:36Sam Morril?

  What does this show become? WFAN? What are we doing here?

• 5:39Mark Normand?

  I don't care for it. That's the tagline. I don't care for it.

• 5:43Sam Morril?

  I don't care for it.

• 5:44Mark Normand?

  Well, that's just the last thing I'll say was the, uh, the coach went up to the refs like, what the hell are you doing? He goes, yeah, you're right.

• 5:49Sam Morril?

  I know.

• 5:49Mark Normand?

  I was like, what the hell? You just admitted it.

• 5:51Sam Morril?

  I know.

• 5:51Mark Normand?

  I'd never seen that in sports history.

• 5:54Sam Morril?

  Tony Brothers is just as bad. Hopefully, by the time this comes out, it's changed, but...

• 5:58Mark Normand?

  Damn. That's crazy. But the city's abuzz, and I hate to say it, nobody wants to hear this, and this is blasphemy to say this out loud. You're not gonna like it. You're hungover, you're a fan, you're at the game, but I think the fact that they lost one adds a little more gas on the fire. Now the stakes are even higher. Now there's a tension in the air, because before it was kinda like, oh, we might sweep this.

• 6:24Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 6:24Mark Normand?

  So now it's like, okay, drama.

• 6:27Sam Morril?

  Yeah, well, now every game, you could lose the next game and it swings the series. Now, next game becomes a must-win. It's crazy.

• 6:32Mark Normand?

  Exactly. So this, this adds a little more, little, it's like when you go down on a girl. You kiss the thigh a little. You don't wanna go right for the clit? Same with this.

• 6:42Sam Morril?

  I want the clit, of course. Give me the clit. It's maddening. It was a maddening loss.

• 6:50Mark Normand?

  And it's always, it was like.

• 6:52Sam Morril?

  But no violence. Don't attack fans. It's fucking craziness. What are we doing?

• 6:55Mark Normand?

  Well, the funny thing is the Knicks got in a fight with each other, or the fans.

• 6:59Sam Morril?

  Nah, you gotta use this to bring us up and bring us together.

• 7:02Mark Normand?

  Yeah, here, here. I think Trump really fucked it all up. Love him or hate him, it was just, it screwed up the vibe. It was all joy before.

• 7:11Sam Morril?

  Of course. It turned into the fucking, I've never seen security like that, dude. It was awful.

• 7:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. You couldn't have a watch party, so Mondani had to move the watch party to Bryant Park, and then it changed everything.

• 7:21Sam Morril?

  It screwed up the vibes, for sure.

• 7:23Mark Normand?

  I was on the road, watching all the videos of the fans, like, doing hilarious shit. What do they say? My god is black, my wife is gay, my Christian Dior, my Nixon 4.

• 7:35Sam Morril?

  My mayor Muslim, my bagel Jewish, my Christian Dior Nixon 4.

• 7:39Mark Normand?

  That was it.

• 7:39Sam Morril?

  Now we gotta change it to something else.

• 7:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 7:42Sam Morril?

  Cause it's not Nixon 4, but.

• 7:43Mark Normand?

  True.

• 7:44Sam Morril?

  What are you gonna do? Oh, is our guest here?

• 7:45Mark Normand?

  I guess so. You need a drink? How you feeling?

• 7:48Sam Morril?

  Ah, I don't know. How about you? If the guest drink, I'll have a drink.

• 7:52Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay.

• 7:53Sam Morril?

  If not, I'll probably chill.

• 7:55Mark Normand?

  I heard a fun fact about, oh, it's gotta pee, about sleeping.

• 7:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah?

• 8:00Mark Normand?

  I slept like seven and a half hours, which when you have a kid is a miracle. And I woke up and I feel so tired, I feel wiped, and I looked it up, and it said, you actually feel the way you feel from the night before. Sleep.

• 8:13Sam Morril?

  Is that true?

• 8:13Mark Normand?

  The day before. Hey, come on in.

• 8:15Sam Morril?

  Come in. Yeah.

• 8:17Mark Normand?

  That's how we do it.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  You're talking right now?

• 8:19Mark Normand?

  You jump right into the orgy.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  You're recording right now?

• 8:22Sam Morril?

  Yes.

• 8:22Mark Normand?

  Yes, sir.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  This is happening right now?

• 8:24Sam Morril?

  Holy shit.

• 8:25Mark Normand?

  In front of your eyes.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  David's in the bathroom, so I'm not ready to go.

• 8:28Sam Morril?

  No, you come right here, and he'll sit here when he's done peeing, or pooping, whatever we're doing here.

• 8:32Mark Normand?

  Ah, that's true. That's true. He could be doing a line.

• 8:35Sam Morril?

  I said peeing or pooping. Hey, you can't.

• 8:37Mark Normand?

  Hey, hi, Mark. Nice to meet you. Great head of hair.

• 8:41Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 8:41Mark Normand?

  It's very nice. Oh, thanks.

• 8:44Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 8:45Speaker 02

  You guys are just riddled with hair.

• 8:48Mark Normand?

  Riddled? Hey, ladies, how are you? Hi, hi.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  What is this?

• 8:53Sam Morril?

  This is our studio. You gotta, you gotta talk into the mic. You've done this before, right?

• 8:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  You guys are on the dock, so he was talking over there. I don't know what the hell.

• 9:01Mark Normand?

  He's Jewish.

• 9:03Mark Normand?

  Uh, yeah, we got a fun studio. If you want a drink, we got you, ladies. If you need a cocktail or a water.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Where do you want David to sit?

• 9:09Mark Normand?

  Right there.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Oh, shit.

• 9:11Sam Morril?

  We spread it out.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  Split it up. Alright, ready? Airplane mode.

• 9:15Mark Normand?

  Please.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  Oh, man. Bam, that's it.

• 9:17Mark Normand?

  Alright.

• 9:18Speaker 02

  It's like Emerald Lagasse, except with, uh, not food, but with just a phone.

• 9:22Mark Normand?

  Bam.

• 9:23Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  Airplane mode.

• 9:24Sam Morril?

  Doesn't work as well with the phone.

• 9:25Speaker 02

  Well, it's for you.

• 9:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah. It's funny, the Knicks are cooking, and then we, uh, my friend's in town for the Spielberg movie premiere.

• 9:36Sam Morril?

  Hmm.

• 9:37Mark Normand?

  So, there's a lot of stuff going on. Hey.

• 9:38Speaker 02

  Alien movie.

• 9:39Mark Normand?

  Disclosure date.

• 9:41Sam Morril?

  David, sit right here, man.

• 9:42Mark Normand?

  Something like that, yeah. Disclosure's a different movie.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  I have to, um, I'm gonna chomp in this phone, so I have to get rid of this gum.

• 9:48Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. Throw it in the ashtray, maybe?

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Is that real smelling salt?

• 9:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, take a hit, and it'll wake you up. I saw Josh Hart hitting that.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  Is that what, is, uh, that's what I was like?

• 9:57Sam Morril?

  Don't put it too close to your nose, dude.

• 9:59Mark Normand?

  It's strong.

• 9:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it'll fuck you up.

• 10:02Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:02Sam Morril?

  Yeah. That'll do it.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I saw Josh Ha- I was like, what the hell was that?

• 10:08Mark Normand?

  That's what he does.

• 10:08Sam Morril?

  That guy's got energy. Hey, David, what's up? Sam.

• 10:11Mark Normand?

  Hey, Mark.

• 10:11Speaker 03

  Good to see you. How you doing?

• 10:12Mark Normand?

  Good, thanks for popping in.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Right now, David, it's recording.

• 10:15Sam Morril?

  Who are recording?

• 10:16Mark Normand?

  We're on.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Here we are.

• 10:18Mark Normand?

  We slide right in. Oh, you got a garbage right here. Hey, you guys are a ball of energy.

• 10:24Speaker 03

  I like to slide right in when I'm talking about sass.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought you were gonna sing.

• 10:31Mark Normand?

  Zip, zap, zow.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  You guys are in a band, aren't you?

• 10:34Speaker 02

  Um, yeah. It's called the Middle-Aged Dad Jam Band.

• 10:38Mark Normand?

  Middle-Aged Dad Jam.

• 10:40Speaker 03

  Middle-Aged Dad Jam Band, that's what it's called.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 10:42Mark Normand?

  Mad G M?

• 10:43Speaker 02

  Mad J B. You're looking at it right there. We're singing, oh, Grease.

• 10:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:47Mark Normand?

  Hey, a couple of dilfs.

• 10:51Mark Normand?

  I love that song.

• 10:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, we do a whole variety of songs from the past.

• 10:56Mark Normand?

  Alright, I am very uncomfortable.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  It's uncomfortable.

• 10:59Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Why is it uncomfortable?

• 11:01Mark Normand?

  You guys are grooving and vibing, it's...

• 11:03Speaker 03

  It's uncomfortable for you?

• 11:05Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  Why?

• 11:06Mark Normand?

  Well, you're having too much fun, it's awkward.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  Is that a new shirt?

• 11:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah, still got the creases.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Oh my god, we're twins.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Twinsies, two black shirts, how many of them? And you've got a black shirt.

• 11:16Mark Normand?

  Hey!

• 11:17Speaker 02

  And then, look at me, the opposite. I got a white shirt on.

• 11:19Mark Normand?

  Yeah, corduroy in the summer is ballsy.

• 11:22Speaker 02

  Listen, I just needed a light pant with a dark top.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  Wait, on the screen there, on the right, is my niece, Ally, playing the violin. She, in the hot 98 degrees in LA, she's wearing a sweater with a leather jacket over it.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, and by the way, just speaking of Greece, Arthur Fonzarelli wore a leather jacket always, even skiing.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Well, because he was cool.

• 11:46Mark Normand?

  Exactamundo.

• 11:47Speaker 02

  Let me just say...

• 11:47Speaker 03

  How much for this, how much?

• 11:49Mark Normand?

  That's yours.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  Let me just say something to you.

• 11:51Mark Normand?

  Oh, you can Venmo me.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  This, I walk in, I thought I was a guest, I thought this was a safe place.

• 11:56Mark Normand?

  It's very safe.

• 11:57Speaker 02

  Right away, you're attacking me about wearing corduroy in the...

• 12:00Mark Normand?

  I'm not attacking, I'm observing.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, I went into Buck Mason yesterday.

• 12:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, quit bragging.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  It's a hot new store.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  I have to tell you what happened.

• 12:10Mark Normand?

  Alright.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Can I wear corduroy? I asked two guys working there, can I wear corduroy in the summer? And the guy says, "Yeah."

• 12:17Mark Normand?

  Well, they're trying to make a sale.

• 12:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  No, it wasn't lying corduroy.

• 12:20Mark Normand?

  It's like asking a stripper if you're attractive.

• 12:22Sam Morril?

  Buck Mason are known, they're known for lying to people.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  You done asked the wrong guy.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Well, if you translate Buck Mason into English, it means, uh, bold-faced liars, which I just found out today.

• 12:32Mark Normand?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Uh, what is this?

• 12:35Mark Normand?

  That's a soda water, seltzer water.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 12:38Sam Morril?

  Do you guys want a cocktail or something, or no?

• 12:40Speaker 03

  You, you play your cards right, you might be able to join the black t-shirt mafia.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  These guys.

• 12:47Mark Normand?

  BTM.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Now, uh, how long, have you been drinking today?

• 12:51Mark Normand?

  No.

• 12:52Sam Morril?

  We haven't.

• 12:52Mark Normand?

  But he's hung over.

• 12:53Sam Morril?

  Um.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  What the hell? You might be, yeah, you were at the game. You, where, where, where, where were you watching? Take two?

• 12:59Sam Morril?

  I was at the game.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  No, you weren't.

• 13:01Sam Morril?

  I was.

• 13:01Mark Normand?

  He was.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  You were at the game?

• 13:02Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 13:03Mark Normand?

  Second row?

• 13:04Sam Morril?

  Fourth.

• 13:04Mark Normand?

  That counts.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh. They played like crap in the beginning. I don't know what was going on. Was it so loud that they couldn't hear each other? And that's why they were passing like?

• 13:12Mark Normand?

  It was loud.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  They were more nervous to me. They seemed more nervous than, uh, the Spurs in the beginning. Then they got their shit together.

• 13:20Mark Normand?

  They always take a minute.

• 13:21Sam Morril?

  They start slow.

• 13:22Mark Normand?

  They're like an old car.

• 13:23Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 13:23Mark Normand?

  Then they get cooked.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  They haven't been starting, not necessarily.

• 13:26Sam Morril?

  Sometimes they gotta rev up, just get their game going.

• 13:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah, exactly. It's like a forty-year-old with a boner.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Anyway, that, there's some crazy-ass fouls happening.

• 13:33Mark Normand?

  Thank you.

• 13:34Sam Morril?

  I know, thank you.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Like, well.

• 13:36Sam Morril?

  What are we doing?

• 13:36Speaker 02

  That's not a foul?

• 13:37Mark Normand?

  Oh, Julie Clausner, hello.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Anyway.

• 13:39Mark Normand?

  Nothing wrong with that.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Um.

• 13:41Sam Morril?

  Nothing wrong with that.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  Oh, who's that?

• 13:43Sam Morril?

  Voomsky, Julie Clausner? Are you guys sports guys?

• 13:46Speaker 02

  I'm a Knicks fan from way back and I've been a Knicks fan and I've watched every game this season.

• 13:51Mark Normand?

  Hey, quite a run they had.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what.

• 13:56Mark Normand?

  Like of not losses.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought that was like some sort of back end, like it's over now, like.

• 14:01Mark Normand?

  No, no, I'm saying like quite a run of wins in a row. This is impressive.

• 14:05Sam Morril?

  He said they've had, so it's not over.

• 14:07Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's true. Well, they lost, I mean.

• 14:09Sam Morril?

  Quite a run they've had thus far.

• 14:11Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 14:13Mark Normand?

  Blaney.

• 14:14Speaker 02

  Which was implied, I suppose, and I just didn't pick up on it.

• 14:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Oh. Hey, here we are at, "We might be drunk."

• 14:22Mark Normand?

  Tiddle, lu, lu, lu, lu.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Is that a theme song?

• 14:24Mark Normand?

  Different show.

• 14:24Sam Morril?

  No, but you guys could help us with that.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 14:27Sam Morril?

  We might be drunk. You're gonna go, I'm gonna go low, you go high.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  I'm gonna take this.

• 14:37Mark Normand?

  Oh, boy, it's good to be back at a improv camp. That's a lot of work.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  You don't have to improv. You just hang out, just sit back and relax.

• 14:45Mark Normand?

  Well, I would like to be a part of it.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Well, in a way, you're, you're part of it right now.

• 14:49Mark Normand?

  All right. Cool. Well, hey, welcome, guys. Thanks for coming in.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Where's the, where's the cold beer?

• 14:55Mark Normand?

  Oh, we got that. You want a beer?

• 14:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:58Mark Normand?

  We don't know.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Look.

• 15:01Mark Normand?

  Ah. What do we?

• 15:05Mark Normand?

  What do you want? Anything.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  Beer and this is a fucking drinking podcast.

• 15:10Mark Normand?

  How about some High Life's Corona, Modelo?

• 15:13Speaker 02

  What do you, what do you have?

• 15:14Speaker 04

  Everything.

• 15:15Mark Normand?

  Except beer.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  Well, we do have beer.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 15:17Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  Right back.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 15:19Mark Normand?

  What do you want?

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Don't go to the store and get it.

• 15:20Mark Normand?

  It's on the bottom floor.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  How about some hard liquor? He makes us a drink.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Do you have ice?

• 15:25Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  Alright, let's do a, uh, a gin and tonic?

• 15:30Speaker 03

  Tequila.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  You want a tequila?

• 15:32Mark Normand?

  I'd like a tequila as well.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd just like a, a little gin and tonic. Yeah.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  I'll do, I'll do.

• 15:38Speaker 02

  Or whiskey, no, no, no.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  Really, we have our own whiskey if you want to try it.

• 15:42Mark Normand?

  No, I have a gin and tonic.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  I'm looking at you guys, I don't know what's going on.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  Can you think about your whiskey that you guys made?

• 15:49Speaker 02

  Making?

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Thanks, but no thanks.

• 15:50Mark Normand?

  It's right there, Bodega Cat.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  Wait, Bodega Cat? Oh, you are Nick fans? Or is that before?

• 15:55Speaker 03

  That was before.

• 15:56Mark Normand?

  It was before, it was like, it was kismet.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  You know, we have our.

• 15:59Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  We have our own beer coming out, uh, from, uh.

• 16:03Speaker 02

  Dogfish.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  Dogfish had middle aged dad beer.

• 16:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 04

  Dogfish had.

• 16:07Mark Normand?

  You guys are really leaning into the middle aged dad thing.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  I'll have some of your whiskey.

• 16:10Mark Normand?

  Alright, we got the big cubes. Everybody loves a big cube.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  What are you doing?

• 16:16Mark Normand?

  Uh, well, I guess I'll go whiskey as well. I thought we were on a, a clear liquor train, but I think Dave wanted a tequila.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  We'll all have a little of the.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Fucking whiskey.

• 16:26Speaker 04

  With your.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  So tell us about, so tell us, so what, so Gail Daughtry in the Celebrity Sex Pass movie is coming out? Tell us about that.

• 16:33Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, it looks good.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  We just had Thomas Lennon on talking about it.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  No way.

• 16:38Mark Normand?

  You did?

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah, he was on last week.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  He's in it.

• 16:41Mark Normand?

  I know, he was raving.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  That's fantastic. Tom's a great guy.

• 16:44Mark Normand?

  Funny as hell. Good egg.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  Hell. Great guy and very talented.

• 16:49Mark Normand?

  Yeah, underrated. He wrote Night at the Museum for Pete's sake.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Writes novels. Writes novels, writes plays.

• 16:55Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Green plays.

• 16:56Mark Normand?

  Has a house in Wisconsin on the lake.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  You guys wrote this movie, right?

• 17:00Speaker 02

  That's correct.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, alright. We wrote it together, in fact.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  How was that? It was great.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  We've done it many times. We've written several movies together.

• 17:09Mark Normand?

  What else?

• 17:10Speaker 02

  You guys didn't do any research.

• 17:12Mark Normand?

  Wow, we know about, uh, Molly Shannon's in it.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Nope, she's not.

• 17:17Mark Normand?

  Damn it. The daughter? Molly Shannon's daughter?

• 17:20Speaker 03

  No, he was on a show with Molly Shannon, the other two.

• 17:22Mark Normand?

  Oh, you were on the show, Molly?

• 17:23Speaker 03

  We know some stuff.

• 17:24Mark Normand?

  That's okay. What's going on over here? I like the corduroy. Yeah, yeah.

• 17:28Speaker 03

  Ken Marino and I wrote some of these movies together. The Ten, Wanderlust.

• 17:33Mark Normand?

  I love Wanderlust.

• 17:34Sam Morril?

  Nice.

• 17:35Mark Normand?

  Whoa!

• 17:35Speaker 03

  Yep, and then this one. And then we've written some other ones that haven't gotten made.

• 17:40Mark Normand?

  Wow!

• 17:40Speaker 03

  To the Celebrity Sex Pest.

• 17:42Mark Normand?

  Actually...

• 17:44Speaker 03

  To the Celebrity Sex Pest.

• 17:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah!

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Those are, we rewrote those. Anything we've written has gotten produced.

• 17:52Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah! That's impressive. We just wrote a movie and it's been a nightmare getting it through the machine.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  How were the reviews?

• 18:00Mark Normand?

  Well, we haven't made it yet.

• 18:01Sam Morril?

  We're planning on shooting end of July.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  Your, um, whiskey's great.

• 18:06Mark Normand?

  Whoa! Thank you, Dave. Appreciate it.

• 18:09Sam Morril?

  Do you guys have a hard time getting a movie made and like financing stuff?

• 18:13Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:14Sam Morril?

  It's crazy, right?

• 18:15Speaker 03

  This one took about 10 years.

• 18:16Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 18:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, look at that guy. You got a...

• 18:18Speaker 03

  I think it's never easy. Never easy.

• 18:20Mark Normand?

  Thank you, sir.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  You see me in the back with the facial hair?

• 18:24Mark Normand?

  Oh, I thought that was Joey Fatone.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  No, no. Looks like him, though.

• 18:28Mark Normand?

  And you got Bobby Lee. That's great.

• 18:30Sam Morril?

  So when you guys write a movie like Role Models...

• 18:31Speaker 03

  There we are, Sundance.

• 18:32Sam Morril?

  When you write a movie like that, like, you got, it was just you two, no one else?

• 18:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:38Sam Morril?

  And when you kick it around, like, what's the, like, what's the, how do you start going with that?

• 18:41Speaker 03

  We have this thing we do. We get together for seven days. We have no idea. And then at the end of the seven days, we promise ourselves to come out with the first draft.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  And then we spend the next, you know, number of years honing it and rewriting it. And we continue to do that until the movie gets financed and then we, it gets made. And then we continue to do that in the edit, editing process. And then until we lock picture, we're constantly rewriting. But those first seven days, we have a first draft.

• 19:06Mark Normand?

  Hmm.

• 19:08Sam Morril?

  Do you try to do it like a page count per day?

• 19:10Speaker 03

  Twenty pages a day.

• 19:11Mark Normand?

  I love it!

• 19:12Speaker 02

  The first two days, first day we break the idea, second day we outline the idea. And then the third, and then the last five days, twenty pages a day.

• 19:20Sam Morril?

  Do you go away somewhere?

• 19:22Speaker 03

  We usually don't. We did, we did at Ken's house, I feel like.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Wanderlust was at my house. The Ten was at your house.

• 19:30Speaker 03

  No, I think that was...

• 19:31Speaker 02

  In New York. And then...

• 19:34Speaker 03

  I think, uh, who knows?

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  I do, I do.

• 19:37Mark Normand?

  What do you guys do when you hit a wall? When you're just like?

• 19:39Speaker 02

  Sometimes I break a knuckle. I did that one time. Just like Mitchell Robinson.

• 19:44Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, Big Mitch.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  Think about like if you're doing like a maze, right? And you're trapped in a maze, then you hit a wall? You gotta go right or left.

• 19:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah, so you just zigzag? Try something new?

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Go back, take a walk.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Well, you know the trick of getting through a maze, right? If you have all the time in the world, just put your hand on one wall. And then just never let go of that wall. Just slide your hand and follow until you get out.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  I went to one of those mirror mazes at like a carnival or like an amusement park. And got really lost, could not get out.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  Same holds true with the mirror ones, just put your hand on one wall. No, he's got a lot more fingerprints on the wall than, I mean, the mirror, but dirtied up.

• 20:25Mark Normand?

  Can I ask a weird movie question?

• 20:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  A weird booby question?

• 20:28Mark Normand?

  Movie.

• 20:28Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 20:29Mark Normand?

  So this, uh, this obsession and backrooms, you hear about this?

• 20:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Yes.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Oh, obsession, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:36Mark Normand?

  The movie, they're, they're changing the game. It's a couple of YouTube guys and they're saving theaters.

• 20:41Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 20:41Mark Normand?

  They're, they're making hand over fist, uh, they said obsession, this much hasn't been made in 40 years in a movie.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause it was made for under a million dollars and it's made-

• 20:50Mark Normand?

  Seven fifty.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  Well, soon the conversation's gonna be this thing, it's obsession, backrooms and Gail Dottre in the Celebrity Sex-

• 20:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Cause we made it for very little and it's apparently-

• 21:02Mark Normand?

  A million?

• 21:03Speaker 02

  According for all the tabloids, uh, it's gonna make like two to three billion dollars or something.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Holy shit.

• 21:10Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  I heard under two.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  You heard under two billion?

• 21:13Mark Normand?

  Unbelievable.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  You're being conservative, but I think that once people get a hold of this movie, it's gonna make five to six billion dollars.

• 21:20Speaker 03

  Did you guys see those movies? I loved Obsession.

• 21:22Mark Normand?

  I just saw it two nights ago.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, me too.

• 21:24Mark Normand?

  I had some problems with it, but I thought it was good.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 21:27Mark Normand?

  The acting with the, the India, is her name?

• 21:29Speaker 02

  The girl.

• 21:30Mark Normand?

  Unbelievable. She's going far, she's going places.

• 21:33Speaker 02

  Alright, alright.

• 21:34Mark Normand?

  Incredible.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  Keep it in your pants.

• 21:36Mark Normand?

  But, one of the guys that was a hor- such a bad actor, took me out of it. And I have found eight plot holes in the movie that bugged me, but really good movie and it's all word of mouth. They did more money in the third week than the first week.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  I don't think it's about the plot.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Let me say this about that movie, it's not realistic, cause if you make a wish-

• 21:53Mark Normand?

  Well, I

• 21:53Speaker 02

  That's not really gonna happen.

• 21:54Mark Normand?

  I accepted that part.

• 21:56Sam Morril?

  I, you know what I don't like though?

• 21:57Mark Normand?

  That's unrealistic to me.

• 21:58Sam Morril?

  My friend, my friend sent me a thing, like every horror movie has this thing now where you like, you're hitting your head with like a pan or you're banging your head. There's a lot of that.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  Tom and Jerry, it was originally invented by Tom and Jerry.

• 22:08Sam Morril?

  For comedic effect.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 22:10Sam Morril?

  Not to scare, but then there's another one where the head like kinda contorts like, I don't like, I don't like, it's like all these tropes.

• 22:15Mark Normand?

  Did it scare you?

• 22:16Sam Morril?

  No, I'm just kinda like, yeah, I've seen it a million times.

• 22:18Mark Normand?

  It's awkward.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  What I loved about Obsession is it, I think it consciously wasn't reinventing any wheel, it was just doing it really well and making it and having a great time with it, you know?

• 22:27Mark Normand?

  I agree, I agree. I had a blast.

• 22:29Sam Morril?

  I'm gonna say it.

• 22:30Mark Normand?

  Saw it in the theater, jump scares, everybody's freaking out, I looked around, everybody's doing this shit. It was fun to see and I'm not a huge horror guy, but it was

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:36Mark Normand?

  Have moments of comedy in it too, a lot of comedy.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  Totally.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Funny. Well, the guy who did it is a comedian, you know, he's been, he was on, um, uh, Portlandia apparently, uh, did a lot of funny stuff on Portlandia. Have to go back and watch Portlandia now, knowing that I've seen him.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  Curry Barker.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, there he is.

• 22:51Speaker 03

  Great guy.

• 22:52Mark Normand?

  Twenty-six.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  He looks like Kerry Kenny's brother.

• 22:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah, got a little Daniel Sloss too.

• 22:57Sam Morril?

  Look at those lips.

• 22:58Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 22:59Sam Morril?

  He's got some lips.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  I wouldn't mind kissing him.

• 23:01Sam Morril?

  Yeah?

• 23:01Mark Normand?

  Uh, I'm thinking about it. But yeah, very fun and it's cool, it's all word of mouth. It's all just people talking and just shows if you make something fun, people will go see it.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  My father was in the radio business and he, they had a saying, which is it's in the grooves, meaning you can promote, promote, promote, but ultimately it's gotta be in the grooves.

• 23:20Mark Normand?

  Kinda be in the grooves.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  Meaning, meaning, you got the goods.

• 23:23Mark Normand?

  If the song's good, baby, people are gonna listen to that, that pop tune, baby. Sing it.

• 23:30Sam Morril?

  I feel like, I feel like Party Down was kinda like that.

• 23:33Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 23:34Sam Morril?

  That was like a word of mouth show.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  That's a good segue. I, uh, thank you so much, I appreciate it.

• 23:37Mark Normand?

  Great show.

• 23:38Sam Morril?

  Cause I, definitely that was a show, I had friends who were like, you gotta watch this show and, you know, look how many people were on that one.

• 23:43Speaker 03

  I think a lot of stuff that we've both been associated with, both together and apart, has had that thing of like, not a ton of people saw it on a global scale, but the people who find it really spread it and feel loyal to it and feel ownership over it and

• 23:56Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 23:57Speaker 03

  Wanna spread it around.

• 23:58Mark Normand?

  This saved my relationship during COVID. We ran, we watched

• 24:01Speaker 02

  Party Down did.

• 24:01Mark Normand?

  Everything on the earth and we're like, what's this Party Down? And then we fell in love with it.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  You discovered it during COVID?

• 24:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 24:07Sam Morril?

  Party Down actually ruined my relationship during COVID. It was weird. We were on the rocks.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  You think it was, yeah, I don't know.

• 24:12Sam Morril?

  It was the last push, they got it, yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Why, she didn't like it?

• 24:15Sam Morril?

  No, she liked, I was kidding.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Um, did you see all three seasons?

• 24:18Mark Normand?

  Yes, many times. Couple times. Yeah, we had to watch it over and over so we didn't have to talk.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Second season, one of the episodes is directed by me.

• 24:25Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 24:28Speaker 02

  The where they do the play.

• 24:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah. I fell off on that one. But a good show all around. And what a cast.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:37Speaker 03

  Don't get me started.

• 24:38Mark Normand?

  Jane Lynch is.

• 24:39Sam Morril?

  Do you ever look back on one of these movies and you're like, there's a couple where you're like, I wish I did this like differently. I don't, maybe one you don't like as much as others.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Do I look back on my career and look specifically at movies or just any acting choice that I've made?

• 24:54Sam Morril?

  Either, yeah.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Um, you know, some of them are, some of them are to, to pay the bills and some of them are more than that.

• 25:04Sam Morril?

  Ah, which one was to pay the bills?

• 25:07Speaker 02

  I don't know. I mean, it's, you know, pretty obvious when you like, you get IMDb and you can go. That one paid the bills and that one was because you, you know, he enjoyed it.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Oh, look there.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  Those are all good ones.

• 25:18Sam Morril?

  You got a good one. These are good.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  The Babysitter, I don't know what that is.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Oh, Babysitter is a fun horror movie, fun comedy. G directed Babysitter and Babysitter 2. Terrific director.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  I mean, I have known you.

• 25:31Mark Normand?

  Eastbound.

• 25:32Speaker 03

  Probably talked to you almost daily for the last 40 years.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  I don't, I've definitely not seen all this stuff.

• 25:38Sam Morril?

  Dawson's Creek, who are you on that?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  I was Professor Joey, Professor Wilder. I was having a, an affair with Joey. When she went to college. A lot of people thought I was a creepy professor. There I am.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  That movie In A World is great. I just saw that not too long ago.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  There I am.

• 25:53Mark Normand?

  Good looking guy.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  And I had a, and then I would quote Flaubert to her.

• 25:57Mark Normand?

  Hmm.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  Uh, and then, um, I can give you my first line of Dawson's Creek because I still remember it and we shot it. I don't know. When was Dawson's Creek, when did that come out? It was the only line that's stuck in my head. I'm terrible at lines, but you say something, I'm a, I'm a lit professor.

• 26:14Sam Morril?

  Sure.

• 26:14Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  Professor. And I want you guys, you're one of my students and you say something bad about Judy Blume. Let's see if I remember it.

• 26:21Sam Morril?

  Judy Blume, you know, it's, it's kind of for kids, isn't it?

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Hey, don't knock Judy Blume. Without her, my, hey, don't knock Judy Blume. Without her, my younger self would never have been able to decode the random acts of madness perpetrated by that fascinating creature known as the teenage boy. Girl.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  Great.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Thank you. I almost had it. Perpetrated by the fascinating, random acts of madness perpetrated by the fascinating creature known as the teenage boy.

• 26:48Speaker 03

  And cut, Ken, that was great. Let's just do another one, though. Just, we got it, but we'll, let's try it again and get it right.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  Hey, don't knock Judy Blume. Without her, my younger self would never have been...

• 26:57Speaker 03

  We're losing light, sorry.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Oh, just turn on the...

• 27:00Sam Morril?

  It's weird for a college professor to be teaching Judy Blume.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  A lit professor.

• 27:04Sam Morril?

  Oh, okay.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Well, he wasn't. He was, he was teaching, one of the, he was, somebody mentioned Judy Blume and somebody like dissed Judy Blume and he's like, hey, man.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  And I think that that's what got Joey Potter a little excited. Oh, he likes Judy Blume. He's not just a...

• 27:17Sam Morril?

  He's not pretentious.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  Dude, he like, he likes, uh, he likes the girl, uh, novels, uh, young teen novels.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  So do you think about that?

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Do you remember Wifey?

• 27:27Speaker 03

  You were the screen love of a woman who in real life married Tom Cruise, AKA you are like Tom Cruise.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think about that all the time.

• 27:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  I'm thinking about it right now, mostly because you just said it.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:39Mark Normand?

  I could see Tom Cruise fuck Brendan Fraser.

• 27:43Sam Morril?

  Ooh, I could see that.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  You can see that? You can see Tom Cruise fucking Brendan Fraser?

• 27:47Mark Normand?

  Right in front of me.

• 27:48Speaker 03

  I see it all the time, whenever I go out.

• 27:50Mark Normand?

  I see it when I close my eyes.

• 27:51Speaker 03

  Whenever I go to the, to the, the box club.

• 27:53Mark Normand?

  That's not a bad, uh, combo to look like, Tom Cruise and Brendan Fraser. I'm talking pre-whale.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:02Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay. I'm not, I'm talking school ties.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  You're talking Tarzan.

• 28:07Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  School ties.

• 28:10Mark Normand?

  Roy. Yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  What about Delirious with Elizabeth?

• 28:14Speaker 02

  What about Mummy?

• 28:15Mark Normand?

  Oh, Hurley.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  Hurley.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  What?

• 28:18Speaker 03

  Elizabeth Hurley, Delirious, remember?

• 28:20Speaker 02

  Elizabeth Hurley in Delirious?

• 28:22Mark Normand?

  Delirious is Eddie Murphy.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  Bedazzled.

• 28:24Mark Normand?

  Oh, no, he's not.

• 28:26Mark Normand?

  Bedazzled, yeah, oh, yeah, Hurley, Hurley had a run. Come on, that's all Marino.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Look at that.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  I was in, I was also in a movie called Delirious, though.

• 28:34Mark Normand?

  Oh, weird.

• 28:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a little more of an independent movie.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's right. It was.

• 28:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:39Mark Normand?

  Boy, oh boy.

• 28:39Speaker 03

  Gina Gerson, who is being celebrated at this Tribeca Film Festival for the 30th anniversary of the movie Bound with Christopher

• 28:46Speaker 02

  Oh my god, one of the great movies. Love that movie. Great, great movie. Malone is amazing, Joe Pantaleoni is amazing.

• 28:51Sam Morril?

  It's like a farce almost, too.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, Jennifer Tilly and Gina, oh my god.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  Great film.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  Great movie.

• 28:57Sam Morril?

  Watch Bound.

• 28:58Mark Normand?

  I will.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Great, great movie. That's one I keep telling my son, you gotta watch it, and he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll get around to it. I'm like, you gotta watch it, it's really good.

• 29:05Sam Morril?

  I feel like the 90s had so many of those like hidden awesome like

• 29:09Speaker 03

  Oh my god, there was a run of like

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Some of them were lost, like

• 29:11Mark Normand?

  Yeah, Simple Plan.

• 29:12Sam Morril?

  That's a great movie.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  It was a book that was really big, the movie came out, who directed it? It had a weird tone.

• 29:22Mark Normand?

  This movie?

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Really great, but one of the, one of the most tense scenes in the middle of that movie is insane. That like tense scene in the middle with the gun and the da-da-da.

• 29:31Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  Incredible, and then Billy Bob Thornton is unbelievable.

• 29:34Mark Normand?

  Unbelievable.

• 29:35Sam Morril?

  Dude, that monologue in the car.

• 29:36Mark Normand?

  Unbelievable.

• 29:37Sam Morril?

  Fucking beautiful, yeah, not, I feel like the 90s had these types of movies, like another one's like Red Rock West, that's another sleeper.

• 29:44Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 29:44Sam Morril?

  And I feel like it's kinda coming back now, I feel like indie films are gonna have a resurgence.

• 29:48Mark Normand?

  I think so.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  What was the movie, the indie film about making a movie with Steve Buscemi that was directed by Tom Chillo?

• 29:53Speaker 02

  No, no, it was, it's two words, it's two words.

• 29:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, I know what you're talking about.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Uh, Peter Dinklage is in it.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Peter Dinklage, yeah, and it's so great.

• 30:02Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 30:03Speaker 02

  Living in Oblivion.

• 30:04Mark Normand?

  That's it, that's it, yeah, it's a good one.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  I think it's the best movie about making a movie that there is.

• 30:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 30:09Speaker 03

  But also

• 30:10Speaker 02

  What about the Kevin Costner one?

• 30:11Speaker 03

  Last time I looked up Living Oblivion, I wanted to show it to somebody, it's nowhere, it's gone.

• 30:15Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 30:16Speaker 03

  You can't stream it anywhere.

• 30:17Sam Morril?

  Give us some advice, this is really the first time we've made a movie together.

• 30:20Mark Normand?

  Tubi, yeah, what do you got, anything? We don't know what the hell we're doing.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  Well

• 30:24Mark Normand?

  Also, Paris, Texas, great movie.

• 30:25Sam Morril?

  It looks like Late July right now.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  Judy, you got, you got money?

• 30:28Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Mark Normand?

  We got money, believe it or not.

• 30:30Speaker 03

  Are you two the stars of it?

• 30:31Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 30:32Mark Normand?

  Yeah, unfortunately.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  Who's directing it?

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Is that, is that, is that for sure?

• 30:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, unless you guys, uh, you could play me.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Tony Feingold used to be an intern at our, on our show, The State.

• 30:41Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 30:42Speaker 03

  Something like that.

• 30:43Sam Morril?

  Get your shine box, dude.

• 30:44Mark Normand?

  Wow, he's been around that long?

• 30:47Speaker 03

  He was a little kid at that time.

• 30:49Mark Normand?

  Really? Wow.

• 30:50Sam Morril?

  How old is he?

• 30:51Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 30:51Sam Morril?

  He looks young as fuck.

• 30:52Mark Normand?

  I thought he was 34 or something.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  He might, he might be.

• 30:55Mark Normand?

  Okay, yeah, there he is. How cute is he?

• 30:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, adorable.

• 30:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah, so any advice you have making a movie?

• 31:02Mark Normand?

  Oh, thirty-five.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Get there, you know, on time.

• 31:06Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 31:06Speaker 03

  In the morning.

• 31:07Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  Um, tell, like, talk to all the crew and call them by their first name.

• 31:15Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  And, uh...

• 31:18Mark Normand?

  This is any job so far.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Follow, follow your muse. I don't know.

• 31:21Mark Normand?

  Come on!

• 31:22Speaker 02

  Well, hold on, hold on. So you wrote the script?

• 31:24Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 31:24Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  You feel good about the story?

• 31:26Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 31:26Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  So you're ready to go?

• 31:28Mark Normand?

  To joke a second.

• 31:29Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it's a lot like Bound, but with two men.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  Okay, so, so you're gonna shoot it. How long is the shoot?

• 31:35Sam Morril?

  I think like eighteen to twenty days.

• 31:36Speaker 02

  So it's a short shoot?

• 31:37Mark Normand?

  Quick.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  Ours was like that.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:39Mark Normand?

  Running gun.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  Ours was twenty-one days. So you're running and gunning. Just make sure in pre-production that every, every, you know, whoever your first AD is, you really kind of taking care of like where the locations are, make sure that that guy keeps the train running.

• 31:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  And then you go over, up, leading up to that, go over the script, so it's nice and tight, and you believe in it, and you know what it is, and don't waver. Stick to what you believe is funny, and shoot it in those eighteen days, and don't stop believing until you get to edit, and then you're gonna edit it, and you're gonna then rip it apart and try new things, because some of that shit's not gonna work, but you're still gonna stay focused, and you're gonna work through the moments where you're like, oh, this isn't exactly what we thought it was gonna be, and you're gonna fix it, and you're gonna still believe in it, and you're gonna work hard on it, and never give up, and then until you lock picture and lock sound, you believe in that movie, and then you put it out there, and then you wash your hands of the whole goddamn thing and walk away.

• 32:37Speaker 03

  But I would say, that's great advice. That was really well said, I think. But I would also say that if you've got eighteen days to shoot a movie, spend every second you can between now and then trying to figure stuff out, because when the clock's going, you're not gonna have much time.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  Now you have time to listen to it, read it out loud, rehearse, talk about it, break it down, think about what you might cut out in editing and don't shoot it, like, you know, like, try to make those decisions, think about those things now.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  In pre-production.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Because when you get to set, there's no time.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  There's no time. You don't have time to talk about shit. You gotta shoot it.

• 33:09Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, pre-production is super important. Do all your work. Get it all, answer all your questions.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  Have every decision made, and so that when you get to set, if something changes, you have an inspiration, great. But if you just stick to exactly your plan as you have it, you've got something.

• 33:25Sam Morril?

  When you're directing a movie like Role Models, that's way bigger. What's the difference between that and one of these smaller movies?

• 33:30Speaker 03

  Actually, there's obviously much more time and money, but...

• 33:34Sam Morril?

  To riff and stuff, you mean?

• 33:36Speaker 03

  Sort of, but ultimately, it's less different than I thought it would be. It's basically the same idea. You're with your cameraman, and your cast, and your crew, and you're trying to just figure out what, okay, let's shoot this like this. The only difference is, yeah, if you want, you can just be like, okay, now let's keep rolling and try more things and, you know, just keep going and going.

• 33:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  But sometimes I find that limitation is helpful, you know, to not just endlessly do things.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  Just believe in the shit you wrote.

• 34:04Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 34:04Speaker 02

  Go over it. Don't be like, we'll figure that out when we're on set. Figure it out. Figure out how you want it to look. Talk about it with each other.

• 34:11Mark Normand?

  The tone and everything?

• 34:12Speaker 02

  The tone, even visually, like what you're looking at.

• 34:14Speaker 03

  And talk about it with your director and your DP.

• 34:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, get your DP and be like, here's how I see it. Pull up references of other movies and be like, this is what I want it to look like.

• 34:23Speaker 03

  And don't, and yeah, you don't want to get on set and you see what they've got set up and you're like, oh, that's not quite what I had in mind.

• 34:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  Now it's a little late to like, shit here, you know?

• 34:30Speaker 02

  Make sure that the person who is running your, uh, the production design, your wardrobe people, your DP, and your AD, and you guys are all on the same page in terms of look, look, visual look. It's a visual medium. So, everybody knows exactly what the movie's going to look like prior to showing up on day one, and you're all on the same page. Because you don't want to have that fucking conversation where, like David was saying, you walk on set and you're like, this is not, no, no, the beer cans are supposed to be like, super big, not regular sized. And they're like, you didn't say that. And like, and then all of a sudden you're scrambling, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic.

• 35:09Speaker 03

  That said, though...

• 35:10Mark Normand?

  Got it.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  If you do happen to get to set and something really is off, don't be afraid to be like, sorry, I know it wastes time, but we gotta fix this.

• 35:18Mark Normand?

  Yes, speak up. Okay, that helps.

• 35:21Sam Morril?

  That's helpful.

• 35:21Mark Normand?

  Thank you, guys.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  And then at the end of the movie, of course, you gotta put a card up that says Finn.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  And special thanks to Ken Marino and David Wayne.

• 35:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, shit, okay.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Not particularly in that order, but I do like them.

• 35:33Sam Morril?

  For sure.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  By the way, this is a consultation that we give other filmmakers and we usually get 10% gross for it. For you, five.

• 35:40Mark Normand?

  All right, all right. We'll get some money together. We'll put it all in the movie.

• 35:43Sam Morril?

  You should see the points we've already had to give up on this shit.

• 35:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  All in the movie except for the 5%.

• 35:48Mark Normand?

  All right, okay.

• 35:49Sam Morril?

  Who was helping you guys with this when you were starting? Who's giving you advice on making movies?

• 35:54Speaker 03

  Each other.

• 35:55Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Our mentors a lot were each other because we were in this group of 11 of us that we met in college. And so we learned a lot from teaching each other and stuff. But I didn't have a lot of...

• 36:05Speaker 02

  I mean, you went to film school. And you know, we went to a school where we learned how to act and produce and write. And then we were in a sketch comedy group where we luckily got our own TV show coming out of college. And we sort of felt, like as Dave was saying, we were like thrown into the deep end and we just learned as it was happening.

• 36:35Mark Normand?

  Damn. But pretty great you got a show that quick. That's gotta feel good.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Very cool situation where MTV was a growing network.

• 36:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  We had an In There and it was just like happened to fall into really good timing over there.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  Now, you guys are very young, so I'm wondering, do you even know what show we're talking about?

• 36:52Sam Morril?

  The State.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 36:53Mark Normand?

  I used to watch it. I still remember the scene with the...

• 36:56Speaker 03

  I didn't know about him.

• 36:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, I was a big fan.

• 36:59Speaker 03

  All right.

• 37:00Mark Normand?

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• 41:31Mark Normand?

  That was about when I dropped off after that. But, no, but, uh, I still remember a lot of the jokes.

• 41:36Speaker 03

  The state was the best shit.

• 41:37Mark Normand?

  It was great.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Since the mid 90s, we've been sort of coasting on that.

• 41:42Mark Normand?

  That's what I was gonna ask. Like, you're behind the camera.

• 41:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:46Mark Normand?

  You're in front of the camera. When you get a show like Party Down, are you like, "Oh, thank God, I have a gig. I have a stable gig for a minute." And then when you're in a movie, you're like, "Hey, I gotta, I gotta do this movie." But then what are you doing the downtime? Because we can just go hit the road, do stand-up. You guys get nervous?

• 42:01Speaker 03

  Well, you guys tour a little bit?

• 42:03Speaker 02

  No, I don't do.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  Well, we tour with our band now.

• 42:05Sam Morril?

  But you do, didn't you do a tour with the state?

• 42:07Speaker 02

  The state did a tour.

• 42:08Mark Normand?

  But that was decades ago.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  No, no, like two years ago.

• 42:12Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  We did like a.

• 42:14Speaker 03

  We did the Nokia Theater.

• 42:15Sam Morril?

  Brian Hubbard's my tour manager, so he said he worked with you guys.

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, we did a small, it was not a profitable tour.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  Small number of shows, but they were big, they were big fun shows in big venue. We did the Nokia Theater in Times Square.

• 42:25Mark Normand?

  Nice.

• 42:25Speaker 03

  But we didn't do a lot of shows. We ended up not doing a lot of shows.

• 42:28Speaker 02

  And, uh, and so, so the question is, what, what, like.

• 42:31Mark Normand?

  Do you get nervous?

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Are you happy to get a show? And are you like?

• 42:35Mark Normand?

  And then when it goes away?

• 42:36Speaker 03

  I can answer you. Ken, yes, gets nervous.

• 42:38Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  After forty years of working consistently, he still is never sure if he's gonna have another job.

• 42:43Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 42:43Speaker 03

  I, I don't do that as much.

• 42:46Mark Normand?

  You're not nervous?

• 42:47Speaker 03

  I just sort of feel like, uh, what can I do?

• 42:50Mark Normand?

  Yeah, very zen.

• 42:52Speaker 03

  I do go long periods without working though.

• 42:53Mark Normand?

  I know, that's nerve wracking.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  And what do you do? The answer is you start a band.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  I start a band.

• 42:58Mark Normand?

  There you go.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  Sit around, I hang out with my kids.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  Direct a play.

• 43:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, direct, I do, we always got projects of different types going. Most of them are not lucrative, but sometimes one.

• 43:07Speaker 02

  Soul fulfilling.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Works out, yeah. But I would say I have, I personally have, uh, favored doing something that's creative and with people that I wanna work with over something that's making money, and that's how it's worked out.

• 43:21Mark Normand?

  Nice.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Can I put my foot up in here?

• 43:22Sam Morril?

  Of course.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  I know, this is a nice piece of.

• 43:24Mark Normand?

  Chownuts.

• 43:25Sam Morril?

  That's not that nice.

• 43:26Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah, it's Ikea.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Is the tape originally come with it, or is that? Yeah.

• 43:32Mark Normand?

  Uh, we found on the sidewalk. So there you go.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  There you go. Look at that.

• 43:36Mark Normand?

  Hey.

• 43:37Speaker 02

  I thought it was four drawers, but it's just one, it looks like four.

• 43:40Mark Normand?

  That's how they get you.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 43:41Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  That's how they get you.

• 43:44Sam Morril?

  When you're in somewhere like eastbound and down, when you get a gig, I mean, that must be awesome to get a gig like that, especially when, when the show's like already proven as being hilarious.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 43:52Sam Morril?

  But is it also stressful going in? You're like, fuck, this is such a good show.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  But they brought in, they brought in the ringer.

• 43:58Speaker 02

  I.

• 43:58Sam Morril?

  Well, he killed it, but I'm just saying going in.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  I don't know. I mean, I, look, at the time, I was a huge fan of the show.

• 44:05Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  And I thought Danny McBride was like the funniest guy, and still do think he's the funniest guy around, right?

• 44:13Sam Morril?

  Very funny.

• 44:13Speaker 02

  So I got a, I got an email. Or a phone call or email from him being like, would you wanna, no, I know, I put myself on tape. I put my, I went in an audition or I put myself on tape. Then I got a call from him and he was like, so we want you to do a thing. Will you, would you ride it, do a jetpack? And I was like, yeah, of course. And so, and then, and then that was the reason I, that's, that was the only thing that he said to me. And I was like, yeah, I'll fucking do a jetpack over there. And then, was I nervous? I don't know. I, I wanted to do right by, you know, those guys, Jody and Danny and, and, and.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  And so I tried to do, you know, the best I could. I came in prepared and I tried to create some sort of character that they, you know, lean into the character that they created and.

• 45:08Speaker 03

  It was a really good one.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  It was a, it was a fun one, you know, I mean, it was a good part.

• 45:12Sam Morril?

  It was a great part. You killed it. I mean, that, I feel like that show didn't really strike a false note ever. Like, some people shit on season two, but I love season two. I think it's like.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  Season two is.

• 45:20Sam Morril?

  Mexico.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Mexico, yeah. No, they're all good. I will say personally, I think one is the best and I think my season is probably number two for me.

• 45:30Speaker 03

  Another great show, by the way, Breaking Bad.

• 45:32Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  I'm not in that one.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  No, I know, I'm saying it's a great show.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  No, it's a great show.

• 45:36Sam Morril?

  You were great on it though.

• 45:37Speaker 03

  No, I'm not in that either.

• 45:38Sam Morril?

  No, you, you were good, man. You fucking killed it. You were good.

• 45:42Mark Normand?

  Sopranos, good show. We just listen to good shows, yeah. Great show.

• 45:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, honeymooners.

• 45:47Mark Normand?

  Yeah, not bad. All about domestic abuse.

• 45:49Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 45:50Mark Normand?

  And we still loved it.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 45:51Sam Morril?

  To the moon, that's fucking far, dude.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  It's far to hit one.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  You guys don't forget about plays like King Lear.

• 45:56Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 45:57Speaker 03

  Shit, forget about that. You guys completely forgot about that.

• 46:00Speaker 02

  Also, commercials, like people shit on commercials, but some of them are really funny. Where's the beef?

• 46:05Speaker 03

  And like meeting Joe Green, throwing that, I'm crying, throwing the jerseys.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  I must be in the front row.

• 46:10Speaker 03

  Hey, kid.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  That guy, right?

• 46:11Speaker 03

  Catch.

• 46:12Sam Morril?

  The was up commercials.

• 46:13Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 46:14Sam Morril?

  Those were bangers.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  You know, so when you hit it, you hit it.

• 46:17Speaker 03

  You guys, you're forgetting about all the promos, like, hey, up next, it's the NBA All-Stars.

• 46:21Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  Let's not forget about, just, just your music in general, you know?

• 46:25Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  You got the Rolling Stones, you got the Beatles.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  God, what a list, what a list.

• 46:30Mark Normand?

  British Invasion. Oh, Titanic.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Right?

• 46:34Mark Normand?

  Hey, don't forget Bud.

• 46:36Speaker 03

  Flat Duo Jets.

• 46:36Mark Normand?

  Wise. Thank you.

• 46:39Sam Morril?

  Classic.

• 46:41Speaker 03

  Do you guys do that kind of thing on the road?

• 46:42Sam Morril?

  We do a lot of commercial talk.

• 46:44Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 46:44Sam Morril?

  We try to incorporate the audience.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  Do you open up with the, do you guys, you, so you do, you do a, um, a two man show?

• 46:51Sam Morril?

  No.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  No, you do separately.

• 46:53Mark Normand?

  We're stand ups.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  And so who, uh, do, when you go out and do shows, right? And do you, are you ever billed in the same, like, night?

• 47:02Mark Normand?

  And a club in New York will.

• 47:04Sam Morril?

  Yeah, like Tommy's will open the same show.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  And like, like if one guy opens earlier, you know, for the other guy, do you like rib him about it? Like, I open for you.

• 47:13Mark Normand?

  Eh, not really.

• 47:14Speaker 03

  I bet you anything, and tell me if I'm wrong, I may be wrong. Do you ever do a show, like a stand up show, some city, some town, you're going to?

• 47:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, doesn't matter what town.

• 47:23Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter. And then someone, does anybody in the audience, have they heard you on this, on this podcast?

• 47:29Sam Morril?

  Not usually, no.

• 47:30Speaker 03

  Okay, it's got it.

• 47:31Mark Normand?

  Never.

• 47:32Speaker 03

  No? Okay.

• 47:32Sam Morril?

  They're like, we know you from Imus, that's what we usually get.

• 47:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 47:35Sam Morril?

  On Imus. We were, we were big on Imus.

• 47:38Speaker 02

  Sixty-six W N B C, is that what it was?

• 47:43Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:44Speaker 03

  I was, I was more into, um, ten ten wins.

• 47:47Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. Ah, yes. What about Cars for Kids?

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 47:51Mark Normand?

  Great tune.

• 47:52Speaker 03

  Please don't get me started.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  Give it to me, um.

• 47:55Mark Normand?

  One eight hundred.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  Seven saw Cars for Kids, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:58Mark Normand?

  I think that turned out to be a scam.

• 47:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  By origin?

• 48:01Mark Normand?

  By the way.

• 48:01Speaker 03

  What part?

• 48:02Sam Morril?

  Uh, Manhattan originally.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  Where?

• 48:04Sam Morril?

  Uh, originally Chelsea, then Upper East Side.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  How about that?

• 48:06Sam Morril?

  How about you?

• 48:07Speaker 02

  Are you a New Yorker, New Yorker?

• 48:08Sam Morril?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 48:09Mark Normand?

  Maybe.

• 48:10Sam Morril?

  Where you guys originally from?

• 48:11Speaker 03

  I'm from Cleveland, Ohio, but I lived in Manhattan for twenty-six years.

• 48:14Speaker 02

  I grew up on Long Island and then lived, uh, in Manhattan for, uh, from college until I was thirty.

• 48:20Mark Normand?

  Hey, the nineties?

• 48:22Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 48:23Mark Normand?

  Was it, uh, All They Say It Was and More, The Hookers, the?

• 48:27Speaker 03

  The Hookers and Blow were great.

• 48:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah? The Times Square, the porno.

• 48:32Speaker 02

  I mean, that was there, it was changing.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  It was changing right when we got here.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  When we got here, that was all not Disneyfied, Disneyfied.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  It was just starting.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  And it was startling for a, you know, a, you know, eighteen year old teenage, uh?

• 48:44Mark Normand?

  Suburban boy. Yeah.

• 48:46Speaker 03

  It was startling and then the change was starting.

• 48:49Mark Normand?

  Got it. So you got a little of both.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:51Mark Normand?

  It's wordplay.

• 48:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:52Mark Normand?

  I got here in oh seven, oh eight and?

• 48:55Speaker 03

  I don't remember you getting here.

• 48:56Mark Normand?

  I didn't, I didn't make a splash, really. But I got mugged three times.

• 49:00Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah?

• 49:01Mark Normand?

  And? I remember the East Village was still had that heroin chic, you know, you had Mars Bar and all those old pieces of shit.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was living in the East Village.

• 49:10Mark Normand?

  Seven A.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  Hopkins Square, uh, right.

• 49:12Sam Morril?

  Seven A was cool, yeah. The rats are still out at night.

• 49:15Speaker 03

  Ken used to serve pizza at Two Boots on Avenue.

• 49:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  I worked at Two Boots to go.

• 49:19Mark Normand?

  I ate there many times.

• 49:20Sam Morril?

  I think they just closed.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  Two Boots to go?

• 49:22Speaker 03

  I think they just closed. Cozy Soup and Burger is closing this month.

• 49:25Mark Normand?

  I saw that.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  Wait, Two Boots is closed on, uh, everywhere?

• 49:29Speaker 03

  On Avenue A.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  On Avenue A.

• 49:31Mark Normand?

  And Seven Avenue.

• 49:32Sam Morril?

  Cozy Soup and Burger is closing, that's a brutal one.

• 49:34Mark Normand?

  That one hurts.

• 49:35Speaker 03

  We're, we're thinking about going to lunch there tomorrow for the last time.

• 49:37Sam Morril?

  Classic.

• 49:38Mark Normand?

  That's a great idea. I might do the same.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  I'm probably gonna get the Cheeseburger Deluxe with fries.

• 49:42Sam Morril?

  Dude.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  Usually what I get is Cheeseburger, what I got when we went to college is Cheeseburger Deluxe with fries and put some gravy on those fries.

• 49:49Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Wait a minute, what about the Split Pea Soup?

• 49:53Sam Morril?

  That's what I get.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:54Mark Normand?

  There's Soup and Burger.

• 49:55Sam Morril?

  Love that fucking soup, dude.

• 49:57Mark Normand?

  What about the, uh, Mo Pitkins? Remember that place? Oh, that was a great bar. I saw Jimmy Fallon there once.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  What about Corner Bistro?

• 50:05Mark Normand?

  Still there.

• 50:07Sam Morril?

  Still there.

• 50:07Mark Normand?

  That's a great area.

• 50:08Sam Morril?

  Cash home is still, right?

• 50:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's west side.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  One of my favorite memories, Corner Bistro was during the great blackout in 2003. Every, whole city was shut down. They had the gas grill going.

• 50:18Mark Normand?

  Woo!

• 50:18Speaker 03

  And they're passing out burgers for free.

• 50:20Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 50:21Mark Normand?

  You ever got mugged in this town?

• 50:23Speaker 02

  Uh, I got a gentleman mug, um, which was, I came out of, I went, I went up, I, I went uptown to meet my girlfriend at the Times' father at a museum. And we got, I got out of the subway and I was sort of dressed, I tried to dress nicer, you know, like I could put on the nicest jacket I had. It was a long coat and I, it was like, sort of like the fall and, and I went, and, and I saw a guy clock me as I got out of the

• 50:50Mark Normand?

  Uh-oh.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  Subway and I'm walking up the thing and I could see him following me and I got a little nervous because I was new to the city. It was like, you know, first couple of years I was there. And I got out, uh, and I made a wrong turn and you go to a busy street. I didn't walk, well, I was walking down a side street and he walked up to me and he goes, hey, hey, hey, and I turned around and he goes, um, He goes, uh, hey, hey, man. And I go, hey, hey. And he grabbed my hand and he's shaking my hand. He goes, um, how much money do you have? And I was like, um, you know, I don't know. I don't know. He goes, why don't you take out your wallet and tell me how much money you have? And give it to me. And I was like, oh, okay.

• 51:28Mark Normand?

  You did it?

• 51:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was scared shitless. And so then, uh, I took out my wallet. And I gave him my money and he goes, thank you. And then he left.

• 51:38Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Gentle, gentleman mugging.

• 51:41Sam Morril?

  Was he a scary looking guy?

• 51:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:43Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay. I bet he walked away. I was like, I can't believe that worked.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  No, I was petrified.

• 51:47Sam Morril?

  You think he had the?

• 51:48Speaker 02

  He was a big man.

• 51:49Sam Morril?

  He had the backup.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, he had big hands.

• 51:51Mark Normand?

  Acidic Jew?

• 51:52Speaker 02

  When he grabbed my hand, I was like, oh, he can crush me.

• 51:56Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 51:57Sam Morril?

  So do you think he just was like, I'm gonna go out in half an hour and get a few thousand bucks? Look here, it's like?

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, well, there's no reason to beat the shit out of this guy. I'll just take his money.

• 52:05Mark Normand?

  That feels like an impractical Joker moment.

• 52:07Sam Morril?

  Somebody like your size, that take?

• 52:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah, you're not a little man.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  I mean, I was the same height, but I was like 20 pounds lighter. I was a teenager. I mean, I was

• 52:16Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 52:17Sam Morril?

  Now you don't know who knows MMA though. That guy could just shake a guy's hand and just get the shit kicked out of him.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe.

• 52:23Mark Normand?

  Wow, but?

• 52:23Speaker 02

  Sure. It's worth the risk, I guess, if you need the money.

• 52:26Mark Normand?

  I get it scared, but you, I think you could have walked away from that. I had a guy come up to me once, this is, I don't know.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Maybe. I would have now. I would have, I would have just been like, yeah, yeah, sure. And then this ran, but I didn't know where I was up there.

• 52:37Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  So I could have ran, you know, I could have been running in the wrong direction. I didn't know where.

• 52:42Sam Morril?

  Did you tell the girl and the dad that happened or did you keep it in?

• 52:44Speaker 02

  So I think I was like, I think I just got mugged.

• 52:47Mark Normand?

  How much money?

• 52:48Speaker 02

  I didn't have a lot of money at the time. It was, you know, maybe it was like 60 bucks or something.

• 52:51Mark Normand?

  60 bucks? That's like five mil.

• 52:55Sam Morril?

  But also that's, you can't really mug anymore. You'd have to make them go to like a ATM or something.

• 52:59Mark Normand?

  Good point.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  That is the, that is true. There's a, it's, it's

• 53:02Sam Morril?

  Is it Venmo a mugger?

• 53:03Mark Normand?

  I had a hobo with Venmo recently.

• 53:05Sam Morril?

  Electronic. Yeah.

• 53:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I had a guy come up to me. I was eating with my wife and this guy came up with this kid and he's like, we need some money. I was like, oh, we're good, we're good. And he goes, you got any cash? I was like, I have no cash. He goes, I take Venmo. And I went, fuck. So I had to Venmo him. He had a little placard with his, with his handle on it.

• 53:19Sam Morril?

  Jesus.

• 53:20Mark Normand?

  He got me.

• 53:21Sam Morril?

  So he's got a phone?

• 53:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah, hobos have phones now.

• 53:24Sam Morril?

  You couldn't report that to Venmo?

• 53:25Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  You didn't think about that, did you?

• 53:28Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I see you're thinking about it now.

• 53:30Mark Normand?

  Ah, what if I could pull that back?

• 53:32Speaker 02

  Context clues.

• 53:34Mark Normand?

  Chin rub?

• 53:34Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 53:35Mark Normand?

  That'll do it.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  And then also.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  He's a good actor.

• 53:37Speaker 02

  Vocally, you're going, huh.

• 53:39Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  He is a good actor. You should make a movie in July.

• 53:41Mark Normand?

  That's the plan, Stan.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  Do all the prep work before you start shooting. You won't have any time.

• 53:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 53:46Speaker 03

  Stop lecturing him. Just let him have fun.

• 53:48Mark Normand?

  Thank you. Appreciate that. Hold on, I had to think about the bugging. Oh, yeah, I had a guy come up to me in the village and he goes, "Run your pockets." That's what he kept saying.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  "Shoot here, run your pockets."

• 53:58Mark Normand?

  He was completely shithoused. He was like, "Run your pocket, ah." And I was like, "Oh, God." And then it hit me, like, wait, this is just a guy. He's trashed. And I went, "Nah." And I just kept walking. And he was like, "All right." So, it just goes to show you, like.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  Go to the next guy.

• 54:13Mark Normand?

  It's scary at first, but then when it all hits you, like, this is reality.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  I learned that.

• 54:16Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:17Mark Normand?

  I'm not giving you shit.

• 54:18Speaker 03

  If he has any reason to bail, he will.

• 54:19Sam Morril?

  You just have to also, you just have to read the situation. If someone's giving you a bad vibe, you just gotta walk away.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:24Sam Morril?

  I was on the train with Steve, Outside Steve from the.

• 54:26Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 54:27Sam Morril?

  We're on the train, there's a crazy guy fucking with people, and he's like, he just fucks with them back, and I was like, "What are you doing?"

• 54:33Mark Normand?

  That's crazy.

• 54:34Sam Morril?

  We're gonna get fucking ki- like, that's, you go to the other car.

• 54:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, there's no, no upside to that.

• 54:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 54:39Mark Normand?

  What, are you gonna change the guy's mind?

• 54:41Sam Morril?

  It was fun. It was fun.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  Have a good time.

• 54:42Sam Morril?

  He got sodomized, but it was, it was still fun.

• 54:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:45Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  Well, sometimes that's fun.

• 54:46Sam Morril?

  It was.

• 54:47Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 54:47Speaker 02

  Sometimes.

• 54:48Speaker 03

  It can be fun.

• 54:49Mark Normand?

  He's a gay man.

• 54:52Mark Normand?

  Outside Steve, friend.

• 54:54Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Wow, we really shut it down with that comment.

• 54:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, you guys, I guess it's homophobic.

• 55:02Speaker 03

  Well, the movie's coming out, that's.

• 55:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, the movie's coming out. Yeah, yeah.

• 55:05Mark Normand?

  Yeah, movie.

• 55:07Speaker 02

  Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass.

• 55:08Sam Morril?

  It's in, it's in theaters.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  July 10th.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  I don't know, when does this come out?

• 55:12Speaker 03

  All over the world.

• 55:13Mark Normand?

  Two weeks.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  I mean, all over the city.

• 55:15Speaker 02

  Oh, two, comes out in two weeks? This show?

• 55:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, so Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass, coming out July 10th.

• 55:22Mark Normand?

  Hell yeah.

• 55:23Speaker 03

  Do you want to know what it's about?

• 55:24Mark Normand?

  Please.

• 55:25Speaker 03

  It's about a woman who lives in the Midwest and she has a celebrity pass agreement with her fiance.

• 55:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  Which means that, you know, he can have sex with a particular celebrity if he happens to have the chance. As it turns out, he does have the chance and he takes it literally and he does it. And it puts this woman, Gail Daughtry, played by Zoe Deutsch, into a little bit of a situation. So she ends up in Los Angeles where a psychic convinces her that she needs to even the score by finding her celebrity pass, John Hamm, and then she goes on this journey, epic journey, to go find John Hamm and fuck him.

• 55:54Mark Normand?

  Oh, fun. That's a great premise.

• 55:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:56Mark Normand?

  I'm hooked.

• 55:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:57Mark Normand?

  Now I gotta know if she fucks him.

• 55:59Speaker 02

  Well, you're gonna have to tune in. You're gonna have to go to the theater.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  What happens, you have to buy a ticket.

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Buy a ticket to the film.

• 56:05Sam Morril?

  Let's go see it, dude.

• 56:05Mark Normand?

  Let's do it. I'm down.

• 56:06Sam Morril?

  July 10th, we're going.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  July 10th, please.

• 56:08Mark Normand?

  Theaters are back.

• 56:09Speaker 02

  And tell everybody on this podcast to do the same.

• 56:12Mark Normand?

  We will.

• 56:13Sam Morril?

  Everybody buy a ticket to see this movie.

• 56:15Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 56:15Sam Morril?

  What's a, a lot of theaters, it's opening up in or what?

• 56:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like decent number of theaters.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:20Mark Normand?

  Theaters are back, baby. People are going out.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  Classics, every, it'd be all over the country.

• 56:24Speaker 02

  If you like to laugh, and I could tell that you guys like to laugh. See? Exhibit A.

• 56:30Mark Normand?

  Love that.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  Context clues. I could tell because he laughed. Go see this movie.

• 56:35Speaker 03

  And I have a little bit of an announcement. This is exclusive to this podcast.

• 56:39Speaker 02

  Oh shit, here we go.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  Tickets for the movie are going to be available on internet.

• 56:44Mark Normand?

  Oh my gosh. Hey.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 56:48Mark Normand?

  This is blowing my mind.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  Breaking news.

• 56:50Mark Normand?

  All right. Very exciting.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  And what do you think they're gonna go for?

• 56:54Speaker 03

  Well, I have a special deal just for your listeners.

• 56:57Mark Normand?

  Please.

• 56:57Speaker 03

  Uh, you buy, uh, pay for the, the full price for two tickets, you get two tickets.

• 57:02Sam Morril?

  Promo code WMBD. You might be drunk. Use that code, guys.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:07Mark Normand?

  Now, what's the backend deal? What are we talking? See, we got fucked.

• 57:10Speaker 02

  Well, uh, we'll get into that.

• 57:12Mark Normand?

  All right.

• 57:13Speaker 02

  Uh, on a different, uh, show.

• 57:15Sam Morril?

  Oh, okay.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  I mean, when we come back.

• 57:18Mark Normand?

  Is theater, we don't know anything.

• 57:19Speaker 03

  Here's how the movie business works. If you pay, say, $12 for a movie ticket at the theater. Eleven dollars goes to me and Ken.

• 57:27Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's pretty damn good.

• 57:29Speaker 03

  Split among like the theater and distributor and marketing, yeah.

• 57:34Mark Normand?

  Well, we're going hopefully, I think, to a streamer.

• 57:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I don't know what the plan is.

• 57:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I don't either, but.

• 57:40Sam Morril?

  We haven't even shot it yet. We have no idea.

• 57:41Mark Normand?

  Theaters are scary now. And then I assume you guys.

• 57:44Sam Morril?

  For comedies, they're a little scary.

• 57:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah, for comedies.

• 57:46Sam Morril?

  When's the last big comedy? I think that's what's.

• 57:48Speaker 02

  Naked Gun.

• 57:49Sam Morril?

  That was.

• 57:49Mark Normand?

  Ah, that was a good one.

• 57:51Sam Morril?

  That was an existing IP already.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  Listen, I'm just, I'm just answering your questions, man. I don't want to fight about it. Just answer. You asked a question. I answered it, man.

• 58:03Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  I would say, don't worry about where it's gonna come out yet. Just worry about making a good movie.

• 58:07Mark Normand?

  I like that.

• 58:08Sam Morril?

  I like that. I like that.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  Do it for you.

• 58:11Sam Morril?

  Well, we are. We're not making shit on this. We're doing it because we want to make a movie.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  We're not making any shit on this movie.

• 58:16Speaker 03

  We never make any money. It doesn't matter.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  Is that what you're doing it?

• 58:19Sam Morril?

  No, no, no.

• 58:20Mark Normand?

  No, not at all.

• 58:20Sam Morril?

  We're pumped to make a movie.

• 58:22Mark Normand?

  We're staffed comedians.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  And we don't do stand up and we don't have a podcast, so it's all.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Got milk?

• 58:26Mark Normand?

  Ah, another great commercial.

• 58:28Speaker 03

  Did you shit yourself?

• 58:29Mark Normand?

  Maybe.

• 58:30Speaker 02

  Well, it sounded a little mersed.

• 58:32Mark Normand?

  Get a bar rag, will you?

• 58:34Speaker 02

  I'll let you know if he shit himself by what comes over to me.

• 58:37Sam Morril?

  I'll smell it. I'm close.

• 58:40Mark Normand?

  I've been eating a lot.

• 58:41Speaker 02

  You're a, that's a day, that's dangerously wet.

• 58:43Speaker 03

  Do you do that thing when you're like, oh, and you're like, oh, Sunday brunch?

• 58:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:47Mark Normand?

  I could if you want.

• 58:48Speaker 03

  We all should.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Here's the thing. I now get to experience your insides. Like, basically, you farted.

• 58:58Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  That odor and the little particles from that odor are floating in the air. I'm inhaling it. It's going into me now.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  I don't like this.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  And so to you, I say, uh, thank you?

• 59:12Mark Normand?

  You're welcome.

• 59:13Sam Morril?

  He delivered that like Neil deGrasse Tyson, too.

• 59:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 59:16Sam Morril?

  That was beautiful.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 59:17Mark Normand?

  But I would argue.

• 59:18Speaker 02

  If we're in a sim, I'll tell you that.

• 59:20Speaker 03

  You're like the Neil deGrasse Tyson of podcasts.

• 59:23Mark Normand?

  Of farting. I would argue I have the boxer and pantaloon filter going.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Oh, so you filled, but, but.

• 59:32Mark Normand?

  You're not getting coffee grinds in the coffee.

• 59:34Speaker 02

  This isn't like, this is, but, but this isn't, they're not like those masks that we wore during COVID.

• 59:39Mark Normand?

  This is more.

• 59:40Speaker 02

  Shit'll come through it.

• 59:41Mark Normand?

  No. What am I wearing? Fishnets?

• 59:44Speaker 02

  I don't know. You tell me.

• 59:46Speaker 03

  It's probably

• 59:47Mark Normand?

  Let me check, it might be.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  I have medical grade undies.

• 59:49Speaker 02

  Oh, you do?

• 59:50Speaker 03

  Do you?

• 59:50Speaker 02

  You got like, uh, eight hundred?

• 59:52Speaker 03

  Well, I make them out of the old masks that I never used during COVID.

• 59:54Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 59:55Sam Morril?

  Yes, gas molecules pass directly through your pants, which is why you can smell fart.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. The fabric essentially acts as an odor filter.

• 1:00:02Mark Normand?

  Thank you, filter.

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  But if you're worried about the gems or solid matter, clothing serves as an effective shield.

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  I can't.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  Research shows that unaffected flatulence can produce microscopic particles outward. Wearing clothing completely blocks the particles from escaping.

• 1:00:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah, hear that, David Cross?

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Thank you for filtering your farts.

• 1:00:18Mark Normand?

  You're welcome.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  I cannot wait until we move on to the next thing, whatever it is.

• 1:00:21Mark Normand?

  Oh, I didn't know you were.

• 1:00:22Sam Morril?

  This is the second half of the pod usually.

• 1:00:23Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Speaker 02

  Let's get back to Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex pass.

• 1:00:27Sam Morril?

  Alright.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  The reason we're here, guys.

• 1:00:29Sam Morril?

  For you guys, we'll mix it up, but we usually talk about Mark's ass at this point.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, we can. I have to mix it up.

• 1:00:34Mark Normand?

  How cool is John Slattery?

• 1:00:36Speaker 02

  He's the coolest.

• 1:00:36Speaker 03

  John Slattery is so funny. He plays himself in this movie.

• 1:00:38Mark Normand?

  What?

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Yes, he plays.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  A version of himself.

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  It's about a group of people that are all looking for John Hamm, one of which is the real life John Slattery. Plus, we have, we've got Ben Wong, he's the new Karate Kid, he's a great guy.

• 1:00:49Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  We've got Miles Guiterres Riley, Sabrina Pachatory, I mean, it's an amazing cast. Joe Latrullo's in it, and Mather Zickle, and.

• 1:00:56Mark Normand?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:00:57Sam Morril?

  Nice.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  And a whole bunch of celebrity cameos.

• 1:01:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah, Latrullo.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  Latrullo.

• 1:01:03Mark Normand?

  He's good.

• 1:01:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, a lot of surprises.

• 1:01:05Sam Morril?

  Zoe, I met her at, uh, Birch and Shaq's show in LA. She was really cool.

• 1:01:09Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 1:01:09Sam Morril?

  She was really cool.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  How'd that work out?

• 1:01:11Sam Morril?

  I didn't do great.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  What happened?

• 1:01:13Sam Morril?

  Um, it was forced, uh, it was a crowd work show.

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  You know, LA.

• 1:01:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Sam Morril?

  No, I think it just had a certain, it's hard to do crowd work, crowd work, crowd work, every comic. It's like, you want to throw a joke in, but.

• 1:01:23Speaker 03

  Oh, that's weird.

• 1:01:23Sam Morril?

  It was tough, yeah.

• 1:01:24Speaker 03

  They shouldn't do it.

• 1:01:25Sam Morril?

  I got a few zings on Shaq.

• 1:01:26Mark Normand?

  There you go.

• 1:01:27Sam Morril?

  But it's cool to meet Shaq.

• 1:01:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:01:29Sam Morril?

  His hand, talk about a fucking handshake.

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:31Mark Normand?

  He mugged you.

• 1:01:32Speaker 02

  Did he get any money from you?

• 1:01:33Sam Morril?

  No money, but he could have broken my fucking hand.

• 1:01:35Speaker 03

  Sure. He could have said, Shaq could do that everywhere.

• 1:01:37Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:37Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  How much money you got?

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  I'll take that.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  Thank you so much. Just. He's Shaq. Oh, no, oh, that's what happened. The guy, no, he didn't grab my hand in the beginning. He goes, how much money you got? And I'm standing there, I'm shaking, and he goes, and I take it out, and he goes, give it to me in a handshake. That's what it was.

• 1:01:54Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:01:54Speaker 02

  And so I gave him my sixty bucks in a handshake.

• 1:01:57Sam Morril?

  So it doesn't look like a mugging if people are looking smart.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I gave it to him in a handshake, and he takes it, and then he left.

• 1:02:02Mark Normand?

  I hate this guy. I'm furious about this.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  I hope you think I like him?

• 1:02:05Speaker 03

  I hope he's spinning on something good, because that was really obnoxious what he did.

• 1:02:09Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  I, it's better than the mugging that like Tom Lennon got.

• 1:02:13Mark Normand?

  What happened to him?

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  He got punched in the face and he had a black eye and like a, like a-

• 1:02:16Speaker 03

  I feel like Tom Lennon's been mugged multiple times.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, he got mugged like multiple times.

• 1:02:20Sam Morril?

  I thought you said John Lennon for a second. I was like, oh, I heard it was worse. Yeah.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was worse for John.

• 1:02:25Sam Morril?

  Didn't know about that.

• 1:02:25Speaker 03

  I had a guy, when I was on 9th Street once, he had one of those big machetes and he sliced my, my head off.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  You had your head clean, cut off by a machete?

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Massive, very sharp machete.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  When you were mugged, somebody cut your head off with a machete?

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  Give me your money. I'm like, uh, uh, before I could think, he's like-

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ, can we get back to the fart stuff then?

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's a little, not my cup.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  That's scary to me.

• 1:02:48Mark Normand?

  Yikes.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Don't, don't, I know. Scary. By the way, I'm gonna let you all, three of you, off the hook now.

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  All right. It didn't happen.

• 1:02:57Speaker 03

  It didn't happen.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  You son of a bitch!

• 1:02:59Mark Normand?

  Oh, man.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  Cause I, cause I'm trying to figure out, how does this guy get his head cut off in a mugging?

• 1:03:05Speaker 03

  Down the garden path.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  But here he is.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:03:07Mark Normand?

  That was scarier than obsession.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  That is crazy!

• 1:03:10Speaker 03

  Fictional story, guys.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  That is bullshit. You're gonna go up 100% bullshit.

• 1:03:14Mark Normand?

  We're gonna look it up. When not being funny is supposed to be funny.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  No, David Wayne did not have his head cut off. He's alive and-

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  Thank God we have a fact checker on this podcast.

• 1:03:24Mark Normand?

  What would we do without Google?

• 1:03:25Speaker 03

  That is so weird.

• 1:03:28Mark Normand?

  Um, wet hot American.

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  Summer!

• 1:03:31Mark Normand?

  Good movie.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  25th anniversary coming up.

• 1:03:33Mark Normand?

  Whoa, it's flying by.

• 1:03:35Speaker 03

  Anniversary and it's gonna be re-released in theaters, actually.

• 1:03:37Mark Normand?

  Whaaat? That's super cool.

• 1:03:40Speaker 02

  How much do I get from that? How many points do I have on that?

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  Uh, I think you get 20% of the gross or something.

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  Oh, 20%.

• 1:03:46Mark Normand?

  Are you getting mailbox money these days? Is that still a thing? Like residuals?

• 1:03:50Speaker 02

  Residuals, um-

• 1:03:52Mark Normand?

  Cause you used to be able to live on those.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  Not so mu- as the Italians say, "Not so much."

• 1:03:56Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  You get a lot, you mu-

• 1:03:58Mark Normand?

  You must get something. You've been in a ton of stuff.

• 1:04:00Speaker 02

  Get off my back! I just gave you my answer, in Italian, no less.

• 1:04:04Mark Normand?

  Okay. Just curious.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  How much?

• 1:04:08Sam Morril?

  Wet Hot American Summer, like, that must have felt so good, because it's clearly not a huge budget, but you just made a funny movie and it became this hit.

• 1:04:14Mark Normand?

  Huge hit. Cult class.

• 1:04:16Speaker 03

  I think we made a, we hit profit this year.

• 1:04:19Mark Normand?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:04:21Sam Morril?

  So was it, was it not a success? I mean, it just, it felt like a success when it came out.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  Cameron made very little money, likely no more than a few hundred dollars in minimum or scale. Nothing at all on the original Wet Hot American Summer.

• 1:04:33Sam Morril?

  Better than us on our movie.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  How does it know that? That is true, but how does it know that?

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  It's AI. It's taking an educated guess every time.

• 1:04:41Mark Normand?

  Well, zero box office returns.

• 1:04:43Sam Morril?

  How many days did that take to shoot Wet Hot American Summer?

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  Well, three.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  No, that took about 28 days, but you have to understand, 35 millimeter, one camera, prime lenses, like.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  Guys, you must understand.

• 1:04:56Speaker 03

  Which means all three of those things made it go a thousand times slower than it would.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  How many cameras are you shooting with?

• 1:05:03Sam Morril?

  We gotta figure that out.

• 1:05:04Mark Normand?

  Five?

• 1:05:07Mark Normand?

  I just threw out a number. I don't know.

• 1:05:09Speaker 03

  Probably two.

• 1:05:10Mark Normand?

  Probably two.

• 1:05:10Speaker 03

  And then sometimes three. That's what.

• 1:05:12Mark Normand?

  All right. I almost said one.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Who's your DP? You got anybody?

• 1:05:16Sam Morril?

  I don't think we have anyone yet.

• 1:05:17Speaker 02

  You thinking about anybody?

• 1:05:18Mark Normand?

  David?

• 1:05:20Speaker 02

  Is there anybody that you, anything you watch where you're like, I like the look of that?

• 1:05:25Sam Morril?

  I think Jonah's got someone.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Jonah's got somebody?

• 1:05:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:27Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  Do we trust Jonah?

• 1:05:29Mark Normand?

  Should we call him? Let's call him.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  Give him a call.

• 1:05:32Mark Normand?

  Give him a call, Peters. Put him on the, on the blower.

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  Hey, man, what's up? I'm still sleeping. The Knicks were fucked up last night. I'm hungover, man. What's up?

• 1:05:42Speaker 03

  Jonah's made some romantic comedies.

• 1:05:44Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  He's, he's really a very enterprising, smart young man.

• 1:05:47Mark Normand?

  He's good.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:48Mark Normand?

  Very ambitious.

• 1:05:49Speaker 02

  What, name some of his stuff?

• 1:05:51Mark Normand?

  Pull it up.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  I wouldn't even know where to start.

• 1:05:53Sam Morril?

  He just did the new one with, uh, Spade and Theo Von. He just directed that movie.

• 1:05:57Mark Normand?

  Busboys.

• 1:05:57Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:59Sam Morril?

  Sure. What else did he do? What else did he do?

• 1:06:01Mark Normand?

  I think he did a couple bucks.

• 1:06:02Sam Morril?

  He did the one with, uh, Jaboukie and Jerry Ferrari did that one.

• 1:06:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, oh, okay.

• 1:06:05Sam Morril?

  He just did one called, uh.

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  What about Xmas? Did he do Xmas? Did he do Dating in New York?

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  Dating in New York.

• 1:06:10Sam Morril?

  Yes.

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  At midnight?

• 1:06:11Mark Normand?

  Yep.

• 1:06:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:12Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's the Jaboukie.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  After midnight, we'll let it all hang out.

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  He's, he's very active on TikTok, too. He, he does.

• 1:06:20Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 1:06:21Speaker 03

  Talks a lot about his process and, you know, he's very, uh, open about the financial side and the.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  This is the DP? Who is this?

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  No, the director.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:30Speaker 03

  Jonah.

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  Jonah, the best.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  Who used to work for us.

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Jonah.

• 1:06:34Mark Normand?

  Wow, Pokemon writer's room.

• 1:06:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, watch out.

• 1:06:37Mark Normand?

  Get out of here.

• 1:06:38Sam Morril?

  Damn, Air Bud 4.

• 1:06:40Mark Normand?

  Whoa!

• 1:06:41Sam Morril?

  Sweet.

• 1:06:41Mark Normand?

  What sport are they on now?

• 1:06:43Speaker 02

  Can I, can I, can I be honest with you guys?

• 1:06:45Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:45Mark Normand?

  Hopefully.

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  Of the Air Buds, 4's the one.

• 1:06:48Sam Morril?

  Is it?

• 1:06:48Mark Normand?

  I like 4.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  4's the one. They figured it out, they cracked the code for Air Bud 4.

• 1:06:56Mark Normand?

  Wow, okay, he's got volleyball now.

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  He's playing volleyball.

• 1:06:59Mark Normand?

  And who's the raccoon?

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  He's playing golf. The raccoon is his best friend!

• 1:07:03Speaker 03

  Air Bud is a real industry.

• 1:07:05Sam Morril?

  Now it's a trans dog swimmer?

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  Did they ever make a movie with Spuds McKenzie?

• 1:07:12Mark Normand?

  No, I guess not.

• 1:07:13Speaker 03

  Oh, that's stupid.

• 1:07:14Mark Normand?

  I heard he was hard to work with.

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  Hmm?

• 1:07:16Speaker 03

  Ken.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Wait a second.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  Spuds McKenzie.

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  Next script?

• 1:07:19Mark Normand?

  Oh, Macken!

• 1:07:21Speaker 03

  Meet Spuds McKenzie.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  Oh, Spuds McKenzie.

• 1:07:25Mark Normand?

  Marino.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  And Ken's Marinos.

• 1:07:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Together, for the first time.

• 1:07:30Mark Normand?

  Wow, they went from a dog to a trans lady to Shangillis. Bud Light's really got range.

• 1:07:36Speaker 03

  Sounds like my life.

• 1:07:39Speaker 03

  Sounds like my dating life.

• 1:07:40Mark Normand?

  There we go. Wait a minute, who's the weird kid holding him? Sorry, now we're just on the internet. But, uh, yeah, Spuds McKenzie was a good time. Remember, girls would like blow him and stuff in the commercials, they would get all...

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  No, they wouldn't.

• 1:07:52Mark Normand?

  Well, they would cozy up.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  What kind of commercials are you watching?

• 1:07:54Mark Normand?

  They'd cozy up to him, and I was like...

• 1:07:56Speaker 02

  They'd cozy up to him, because everybody likes a cute dog! And the ladies love it. Cool dog!

• 1:08:01Mark Normand?

  Yeah, but he was getting puss.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  No! He was just hanging out with the ladies.

• 1:08:07Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay, well, it got a little intimate.

• 1:08:10Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know what commercials you were watching, pal, but...

• 1:08:13Mark Normand?

  Whatever's on TV.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Mark Normand?

  I couldn't choose them.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  You can't choose them.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Sometimes I feel like, growing up, the TV was my mom, the TV was my dad, you know?

• 1:08:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, these girls are all over him.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  But they're all about, "Hey, check it out!"

• 1:08:24Mark Normand?

  Oh, well, that is a cool damn dog. Oh, she's in his ear.

• 1:08:27Speaker 03

  I call TV the plug. Drug.

• 1:08:29Mark Normand?

  Here, here.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  Hey, look at this dog's surf.

• 1:08:32Speaker 03

  He's a cool dog.

• 1:08:33Mark Normand?

  He's cool.

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  On a.

• 1:08:35Mark Normand?

  Oh, he's going home with three whores. Look at this.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  True.

• 1:08:39Mark Normand?

  Oh, my God, they talk. Who's that? Whoa, is he a, is that a Red Rocket? Oh, man, look, he's on a raft.

• 1:08:45Speaker 03

  Cool ass turn, though. Did you see that turn?

• 1:08:48Mark Normand?

  That's a great turn.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  But so is it?

• 1:08:50Mark Normand?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  Honestly, the ladies aside, is this dog drinking beer?

• 1:08:54Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:08:54Speaker 02

  Cause it's.

• 1:08:55Mark Normand?

  Oh, she checked his ass.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  Cause the dog was on the float with a beer.

• 1:08:58Speaker 03

  How about that little tank top he's got on?

• 1:08:59Mark Normand?

  Oh, look at him, rubbing him down. I'm telling you.

• 1:09:02Speaker 02

  Really like ladies like to pet a cute dog.

• 1:09:04Mark Normand?

  They're putting peanut butter in between the legs and he's devouring it.

• 1:09:09Speaker 02

  Singing with the dog, but why is the dog drinking beer?

• 1:09:11Speaker 03

  That's a very.

• 1:09:12Mark Normand?

  Well, he's a party animal.

• 1:09:14Speaker 03

  Spud McKenzie is a very.

• 1:09:15Mark Normand?

  We're drinking whiskey.

• 1:09:16Speaker 03

  It's phenomenal.

• 1:09:17Mark Normand?

  Oh, he's in the Cadillac. Oh, he can do country as well. Good for Spuds.

• 1:09:22Speaker 03

  Oh, sorry about it up.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sorry you brought it up, too.

• 1:09:27Speaker 03

  I feel great about it, actually.

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm happy you brought it up.

• 1:09:30Mark Normand?

  Same.

• 1:09:31Speaker 02

  See, I'm a yes man.

• 1:09:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:09:32Mark Normand?

  He's gotta be dead, right, Spuds?

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, he's alive and well.

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  There's absolutely no chance.

• 1:09:38Mark Normand?

  Give me a, give me a year, a date of birth and a date of death. I wonder how much the guy made with his dog, whoever was that dog owner?

• 1:09:46Speaker 02

  Find out next time.

• 1:09:47Speaker 03

  I love this format. You just get to see what the internet says about everything we're talking about.

• 1:09:51Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:53Speaker 03

  Uh, died in 1993.

• 1:09:55Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's a shame.

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:58Mark Normand?

  Party animal.

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  Liver failure.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  Kidney failure.

• 1:10:01Mark Normand?

  Kidney failure, the, the bud.

• 1:10:03Speaker 02

  Yep, of course.

• 1:10:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, you called it.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  You know, the kids.

• 1:10:07Mark Normand?

  Evie.

• 1:10:07Speaker 03

  In the Little Rascals.

• 1:10:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:09Speaker 03

  One of them passed away.

• 1:10:11Mark Normand?

  Oh, just one?

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  I think maybe all of them, actually.

• 1:10:13Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I would say so. I mean, that was in the, what, the 30s?

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  20s.

• 1:10:16Mark Normand?

  20s?

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't, I have to imagine they're all, uh.

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  No, that's the new Little Rascals. What are you, what are you doing?

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, we want the original cast, yeah.

• 1:10:24Mark Normand?

  Ah, here we go.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  Oh, man, Darla.

• 1:10:27Mark Normand?

  Oh, love that Darla. Look at how cute Porky Lee was.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 1:10:32Mark Normand?

  Ah, anyway, it was hard, yeah.

• 1:10:34Speaker 03

  Every kid wanted that hat back in the day.

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  Tommy Bond, Tommy Bond has seen, Tommy Bond did not age well.

• 1:10:40Sam Morril?

  Froggy.

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  Robert Blake also, uh, unfortunately.

• 1:10:44Sam Morril?

  Apparently a really good guy.

• 1:10:45Speaker 02

  No, no, turns out not so much.

• 1:10:47Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  Robert Blake.

• 1:10:48Mark Normand?

  He was uglier than.

• 1:10:49Speaker 02

  Shot his wife right at the front door of the house that I lived in.

• 1:10:54Mark Normand?

  Get out of here.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  I lived in it later, but in, uh, in Los Angeles.

• 1:10:58Mark Normand?

  Does that help or hurt the resale?

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  Uh, I was renting the house.

• 1:11:02Mark Normand?

  I see.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  Well, for Blake heads.

• 1:11:05Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:07Mark Normand?

  Maybe the best doc in the last thirty years, what do you say?

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:11:10Mark Normand?

  Blake heads? Uh, the jinx.

• 1:11:13Sam Morril?

  That wasn't him. That was Robert Durst.

• 1:11:15Mark Normand?

  Ah, shit, I got them mixed up. Ah! But they both killed somebody.

• 1:11:19Sam Morril?

  Ain't they got a similar vibe a little bit?

• 1:11:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah, pull up a Durst-Blake side by side. I'm telling you.

• 1:11:24Sam Morril?

  You ever see the Robert Blake versus Orson Welles on Carson?

• 1:11:27Mark Normand?

  No.

• 1:11:28Sam Morril?

  It's a nice, it's a nice little fifteen.

• 1:11:29Speaker 02

  Oh, is that when he's like, not, because he refused to wear a tie. Like, that was like, Robert Blake's thing was, I don't wear a tie.

• 1:11:35Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:37Mark Normand?

  That's his thing?

• 1:11:38Sam Morril?

  He called him, uh, he called him fat and Orson just zinged him.

• 1:11:41Speaker 02

  That's right. That's right.

• 1:11:42Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's fun.

• 1:11:43Sam Morril?

  What does that have to do with it?

• 1:11:45Speaker 02

  He's doing some research.

• 1:11:46Sam Morril?

  He's from the state.

• 1:11:47Mark Normand?

  Oh, weird. Yeah, Robert Blake is this.

• 1:11:50Sam Morril?

  And he was in the original, what's the Capote book, the, uh, famous Capote book?

• 1:11:54Mark Normand?

  In Cold Blood?

• 1:11:55Sam Morril?

  Yeah, he was in that movie as a murderer.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:11:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, shit.

• 1:11:59Sam Morril?

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:12:00Mark Normand?

  I didn't know that's all full circ. They're making a Jinx Part Two?

• 1:12:04Sam Morril?

  It was good.

• 1:12:04Mark Normand?

  How?

• 1:12:05Sam Morril?

  It came out.

• 1:12:05Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:12:06Sam Morril?

  It was fucking awesome.

• 1:12:08Mark Normand?

  I missed that one. I mean, where do you go from?

• 1:12:10Sam Morril?

  What happened to the Jinx?

• 1:12:11Mark Normand?

  Best doc ever.

• 1:12:12Sam Morril?

  It might be the best true crime ever.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's pretty good. I don't like true crime shit.

• 1:12:16Mark Normand?

  I mean, this is.

• 1:12:16Sam Morril?

  But it's that good.

• 1:12:17Mark Normand?

  It's well done. I'll watch it.

• 1:12:18Sam Morril?

  It's that good.

• 1:12:19Mark Normand?

  It's the best.

• 1:12:20Speaker 02

  Did they ever let that kid off from making a murder?

• 1:12:23Mark Normand?

  Oh, the slow guy.

• 1:12:24Sam Morril?

  That, that, that was too stretched out.

• 1:12:26Mark Normand?

  Of course.

• 1:12:27Sam Morril?

  It was, that was like too many episodes.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Do you think there's murder in Gail Daughtry in The Celebrity Sex Pass?

• 1:12:32Sam Morril?

  You're gonna have to find out.

• 1:12:33Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  Do you think there's intrigue?

• 1:12:36Mark Normand?

  You got a murder at the box office.

• 1:12:37Sam Morril?

  There's a lot of it.

• 1:12:38Speaker 02

  Let's hope so.

• 1:12:40Sam Morril?

  Well, we hope you guys crush to the box office, man. That'd be awesome.

• 1:12:42Mark Normand?

  Geez, that's a long name.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  I hope so too. Yeah, it's a very long title, but that's, you know.

• 1:12:47Mark Normand?

  It's part of the fun.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  That's part of the fun.

• 1:12:49Sam Morril?

  What other, what other shows you going on to promote?

• 1:12:52Speaker 02

  Well, Johnny Carson, of course.

• 1:12:53Sam Morril?

  Nice.

• 1:12:54Speaker 02

  Apparently Johnny's not gonna be there, it's gonna be Joan Rivers.

• 1:12:58Speaker 03

  I have us booked on Colbert, I think we're gonna do.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're gonna do Colbert.

• 1:13:00Mark Normand?

  Fun.

• 1:13:02Speaker 03

  Doing, uh, yeah.

• 1:13:03Speaker 02

  And then, um, uh, what else?

• 1:13:05Speaker 03

  Leno.

• 1:13:07Mark Normand?

  There you go.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:08Mark Normand?

  Steve Allen.

• 1:13:09Speaker 02

  Steve Allen, we're gonna do a thing of Steve Allen, yeah.

• 1:13:12Speaker 03

  Steve Allen wants us to do the whole bit with the dark boards.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. And then, oh, we're gonna do some sketch, we're gonna go on that, um, late night comedy show Fridays.

• 1:13:20Mark Normand?

  Ah, Michael Richards.

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:22Mark Normand?

  Good times.

• 1:13:23Sam Morril?

  You couldn't get Ferguson?

• 1:13:24Speaker 02

  Hmm?

• 1:13:24Sam Morril?

  You couldn't get Ferguson?

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  We were, we're still waiting back to hear from Ferguson.

• 1:13:29Speaker 03

  We're doing the Magic Hour with Magic Johnson.

• 1:13:30Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:13:31Speaker 02

  And then Chevy Chase, we do Chevy Chase's show.

• 1:13:33Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, and then Kilborn.

• 1:13:35Speaker 03

  And we're doing Joan Rivers, yeah, fun.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 1:13:37Speaker 03

  The whole circuit.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  We'll get out there, we'll, we're gonna get our shit out there.

• 1:13:40Mark Normand?

  Well, it looks abada, I'm gonna, I can't wait to see it.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  Would it sounded like you just said, "It looks abada, abada"? Is that what you said?

• 1:13:47Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's my...

• 1:13:48Speaker 03

  And I'd say, in all sincerity...

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  Is that a catchphrase for the show?

• 1:13:51Mark Normand?

  Abada, abada.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  Abada, abada.

• 1:13:52Mark Normand?

  That's what I see, hot girl.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  Abada, abada.

• 1:13:55Speaker 03

  In all sincerity, being objective, it is really one of the funniest movies ever made.

• 1:13:59Mark Normand?

  Wow, okay.

• 1:14:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:00Mark Normand?

  That's a hell of a blur.

• 1:14:01Sam Morril?

  Is it really hard editing these things? Like, is there so much stuff you wanna keep that you're just like, "Fuck, we gotta just..." Because you wanna keep a comedy pretty tight, right?

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  We keep it ninety, ninety, uh, ninety-three minutes.

• 1:14:11Sam Morril?

  That's good, that's smart.

• 1:14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:14Sam Morril?

  But it's hard, right? But there's a lot of stuff you wanna...

• 1:14:16Speaker 02

  It's hard, you gotta say goodbye to some of your babies.

• 1:14:18Speaker 03

  Let it go, let it go, let it, go for the whole.

• 1:14:20Mark Normand?

  Abort.

• 1:14:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know the expression, "Let it go, let it go, go for the whole."

• 1:14:24Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:14:26Speaker 03

  Ouch.

• 1:14:27Mark Normand?

  Ay, ay, ay. How funny is that ham, huh? Handsome and funny.

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:32Mark Normand?

  He's got it all.

• 1:14:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, the way you're saying that, you inter, I mean, you wanna, I can introduce you as a buddy.

• 1:14:38Mark Normand?

  I mean, I wouldn't kick him out of the bed for eating crackers. He's married?

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:14:41Mark Normand?

  What's he thinking? He could be cleaning up?

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  I'm in love, I'm in love.

• 1:14:45Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:14:46Speaker 03

  He has a wonderful wife.

• 1:14:47Mark Normand?

  Oh, I'm eating here.

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 1:14:50Mark Normand?

  Wow, this guy could be...

• 1:14:51Speaker 02

  Are you married?

• 1:14:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, but I'm not ham.

• 1:14:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Mark Normand?

  I'm, I'm deli meat.

• 1:14:55Speaker 03

  Are you married to Anna, John Ham's wife?

• 1:14:59Mark Normand?

  I am not married to Anna Aschiola.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  No, Jon Hamm is.

• 1:15:03Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:04Mark Normand?

  That's why I'm not.

• 1:15:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:05Speaker 03

  Anna Aschiola is one of the best makers of cake. Like, she bakes cakes.

• 1:15:10Sam Morril?

  What kind of cakes are we talking?

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  Any kind.

• 1:15:13Mark Normand?

  Fruit?

• 1:15:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Uh, okay, how about, um, tomato cake?

• 1:15:20Mark Normand?

  Nah, that's not a cake. Come on, where'd you go to improv?

• 1:15:23Speaker 03

  I'm joking, I never heard of tomato cake.

• 1:15:25Sam Morril?

  It is a fruit technically.

• 1:15:27Mark Normand?

  It was.

• 1:15:27Sam Morril?

  He's playing, he's playing the game fair.

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  I bet there is such a thing as tomato cake. Would you mind looking it up?

• 1:15:33Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:15:34Mark Normand?

  Oh geez, this is gonna be some bullshit in Scandinavia.

• 1:15:38Sam Morril?

  It's a frittata, it's not a cake. This podcast, it's clearly a frittata.

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  You on this podcast feels like me sitting at home trying to write, like.

• 1:15:45Speaker 02

  A surprisingly delicious moist dessert that tastes remarkably like spiced carrot cake or gingerbread cake. Thank you.

• 1:15:51Speaker 03

  I wish I had some.

• 1:15:52Mark Normand?

  I'd like to try it now, actually. You can make a cake out of anything.

• 1:15:57Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, I mean, uh, uh, uh, fruit.

• 1:16:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  Establish that. Tomato, of course.

• 1:16:02Mark Normand?

  Butter cake.

• 1:16:03Speaker 03

  Who's been on this show that comes to mind just the first you think of is like the one of the most exciting?

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  Yes. Who do people go to? What's got the, what's got the most hits?

• 1:16:11Sam Morril?

  Seinfeld was pretty cool.

• 1:16:12Mark Normand?

  Seinfeld was cool.

• 1:16:13Sam Morril?

  That was a pretty cool episode.

• 1:16:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  You wanna hear my Seinfeld?

• 1:16:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:17Speaker 02

  What's the deal with, uh, crackers?

• 1:16:21Speaker 03

  That's great.

• 1:16:21Mark Normand?

  Ooh.

• 1:16:23Sam Morril?

  Burr was big.

• 1:16:24Mark Normand?

  Bill Burr was fun.

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Oh, you wanna hear my, uh, Bill Burr?

• 1:16:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:27Speaker 02

  Hey, uh, Boston, what's your deal? Why are you guys being so shitty right now?

• 1:16:32Mark Normand?

  Hey.

• 1:16:33Sam Morril?

  Uh, Christopher Walken, that was a good one.

• 1:16:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, sure. Uh, I'm Christopher Walken.

• 1:16:39Mark Normand?

  Okay, we had Paul Giamatti.

• 1:16:41Speaker 03

  I'm Paul Giamatti, I approve this message.

• 1:16:44Speaker 02

  Oh, that's nice.

• 1:16:46Mark Normand?

  All right, good stuff.

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  So you got Giamatti on here?

• 1:16:49Mark Normand?

  No.

• 1:16:50Sam Morril?

  No, no, we were just trying to show.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  You had Christopher Walken?

• 1:16:52Speaker 03

  He was setting you up to do.

• 1:16:53Mark Normand?

  We did have Seinfeld.

• 1:16:54Speaker 02

  How was Seinfeld?

• 1:16:55Sam Morril?

  Great, great episode.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  So what was a moment that Seinfeld gave you?

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  That even when you think about now, guys, gives you the goosebumps, the chills. What is it?

• 1:17:08Mark Normand?

  I mean, it was sincerely great. I know you're making a mockery, but it was awesome.

• 1:17:12Speaker 03

  He's making mockery. I'm, I'm.

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  I'm not making a mockery. I'm asking you, what did you? I was making a joke of how I asked a question, but what was the, uh?

• 1:17:23Mark Normand?

  We go deep into comedy nerd joke writing and it was really enlightening.

• 1:17:28Sam Morril?

  We love that stuff. So.

• 1:17:29Speaker 02

  So let me ask you something about joke writing. When did you get into comedy?

• 1:17:33Sam Morril?

  Uh, we both probably around 20 years now.

• 1:17:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, 20 years ago.

• 1:17:37Speaker 02

  What made you do it? What were you doing before then?

• 1:17:40Mark Normand?

  Uh, I was a waiter. Then I moved furniture, then I did construction, then shit like that. But I moved up here. I'm from New Orleans. There's no comedy there. So.

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right.

• 1:17:49Mark Normand?

  I had to come up here to try to be a comedian.

• 1:17:52Speaker 02

  From New Orleans. I love New Orleans.

• 1:17:53Mark Normand?

  Hey, great town, great town. Most, uh, original, not original, but unique city in America, I'd say.

• 1:18:00Speaker 02

  Without question. One of the, some of the best food.

• 1:18:01Sam Morril?

  I love New Orleans.

• 1:18:02Mark Normand?

  Great food.

• 1:18:02Speaker 02

  In the world. Some of the best food in the world.

• 1:18:04Mark Normand?

  Very good. I miss it. You can't get it here, which is weird. You can't get Ethiopian food, but I can't get Creole.

• 1:18:10Sam Morril?

  You can get, you can get some Creole here.

• 1:18:13Mark Normand?

  I've looked around. It ain't, it ain't, uh, not made with love.

• 1:18:17Sam Morril?

  Um. Who's like a person you guys have worked with who you're like, holy shit, this is pretty crazy?

• 1:18:21Speaker 02

  Henry Winkler comes to my.

• 1:18:22Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  Alan Alda on The Wonders. Come on.

• 1:18:25Sam Morril?

  That's pretty cool.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  Anytime you work with somebody like that you watched growing up and you were like, oh my God, I'm watching, you know, MASH or Happy Days or like Taxi, like, you know, uh, uh, Lane Nardo, uh, uh, Mary Lou Henner.

• 1:18:37Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  Uh, you know, like she was on Party Down, if you remember.

• 1:18:40Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:18:41Speaker 02

  Um, Ed Begley Jr., like all these people that you grew up watching and then all of a sudden they're in scenes with you.

• 1:18:47Mark Normand?

  Insane.

• 1:18:48Speaker 02

  Or you're directing them in something.

• 1:18:50Speaker 03

  It's pretty amazing.

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  It's, it's, it's mind-blowing. It's a weird fuck. Mindfuck.

• 1:18:54Sam Morril?

  Looks amazing, by the way.

• 1:18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:56Mark Normand?

  Who's that?

• 1:18:57Sam Morril?

  Ernie Hudson.

• 1:18:57Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  I remember once I was, I was, I was shooting a pilot that all the characters in it were older people. It was like about old people. And so at like the entire cast of Barney Miller came to audition and the entire cast of The Love Boat came to audition. And I was just like, this is.

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:19:15Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's insane.

• 1:19:16Speaker 02

  I shot a Christmas movie with Eddie Murphy.

• 1:19:18Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  I walk into the middle of the first scene of the movie. I walk into the middle of the street, Eddie Murphy. You all right?

• 1:19:26Mark Normand?

  Sorry.

• 1:19:26Speaker 02

  All right.

• 1:19:27Mark Normand?

  Eddie Murphy farted again.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  Eddie Murphy walks out of his house, I walk out of my house and we meet in the middle of the street and we have a scene with Eddie Murphy.

• 1:19:35Mark Normand?

  Ah, see, that's legendary. That's incredible.

• 1:19:38Speaker 03

  Was he, was he cool?

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  He, yes, he was cool. Like, I mean, you know, you hear like he's to himself and he was sort of like to himself because he's Eddie Murphy, right? He's got nothing to prove and he just, he's kind of, he's, he's like, but he was like, super nice. You know, like when we got into conversations, he would like just talk about stuff, like he was a really cool guy.

• 1:19:57Speaker 03

  What did you talk about with Eddie Murphy?

• 1:19:59Speaker 02

  Well, once I got to, like, cause, well, he would show, you know, he would show up, shoot a scene and then leave, right? So, but there were times we had, I had a son, so the, in the movie, and so sometimes because of time, uh, you know, the, the kid, we had got to let the kid out in 20 minutes. Eddie Murphy couldn't go, leave. And so we were just standing on set, waiting to reset, you know, the cameras or whatever. And we got into some conversations and we talked about, um, who his favorite director was, um, just like growing up on Long Island, um.

• 1:20:31Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:20:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was cool.

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  Who's he love?

• 1:20:33Speaker 02

  Uh, what's that? His favorite director was, um, who did, uh, Training Places, uh.

• 1:20:37Mark Normand?

  Landis?

• 1:20:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:38Mark Normand?

  I thought they hated each other.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  He goes, Landis was like one of the, you know, greats like Steven Spielberg and Scorsese, all those guys coming out of there. And he goes, he doesn't get his, his, his due.

• 1:20:49Mark Normand?

  He had a run in the eighties.

• 1:20:50Speaker 03

  He really just never came back, though.

• 1:20:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's true.

• 1:20:54Speaker 03

  Well, that's, Landis, we talked to Landis when we were trying to make Wet Hot American Summer and he was gonna help us produce it, put his name on it, help us find money for it. And it sort of felt fizzled away and that was the end of it.

• 1:21:04Speaker 02

  Wait, what did you say? What's, after what? What happened?

• 1:21:07Mark Normand?

  Head of that incident on the movie.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  Because of the helicopter, because of the creep show. Is that right?

• 1:21:12Speaker 03

  No, because Twilight Zone was.

• 1:21:13Speaker 02

  Twilight Zone.

• 1:21:14Speaker 03

  No, but this, this was. This was all after that. This was in 2000.

• 1:21:18Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:21:18Speaker 03

  Wet Hot American Summer. And he just, he was trying to connect us with some financier or whatever and it just never really happened and so.

• 1:21:25Mark Normand?

  All right. I think we gotta wrap up. Sorry. We're getting the, we're getting the signal.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  Well, no, I got like a 10, I got like, like 10 more hours of stuff that I wanted to talk to you about.

• 1:21:32Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:21:32Speaker 03

  We got June 26th, Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle.

• 1:21:35Mark Normand?

  No, no. Go see Gail Daughtry in The Celebrity Sex Pass. Crazy cast. It's in the theater. It's gonna be hilarious. He said it's the best comedy of all time.

• 1:21:45Sam Morril?

  Mark and I are gonna go see it in the theater.

• 1:21:46Mark Normand?

  We will go see it.

• 1:21:47Speaker 03

  And also, if you're in, if you're on the East Coast in July, check out the Middle Age Dad Jam Band. We'll be on tour.

• 1:21:53Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:21:54Speaker 03

  That's me and Ken. I'm the drummer. He's the lead singer.

• 1:21:56Mark Normand?

  In the Middle East?

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  We're doing, yeah, we're doing, uh, Rehoboth. Then we're doing, uh, Amagansett.

• 1:22:01Speaker 03

  Amagansett, New York City, Westfield, Rhode Island.

• 1:22:03Speaker 02

  Irving Plaza here in New York.

• 1:22:04Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  We're doing, uh, and then we're going up to Rhode Island and Connecticut or something.

• 1:22:09Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:22:10Speaker 03

  And Maine.

• 1:22:11Mark Normand?

  Boy, you guys are living.

• 1:22:12Speaker 03

  The thing about it is that it's also our tribute to Wet Hot American Summer 20th anniversary. So we have like songs from the movie and clips.

• 1:22:18Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:22:19Speaker 03

  It's gonna be really fun.

• 1:22:20Mark Normand?

  Cool. All right.

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  And, uh, and then of course, I just wanna say that this is the, probably the best installment of the Gail Daughtry movies. This is the best one.

• 1:22:29Mark Normand?

  Okay, great. Awesome, guys. Well, hey.

• 1:22:33Speaker 03

  So fun to meet you.

• 1:22:34Mark Normand?

  Thanks for coming on. Yeah, we're gonna go see it and you should all go see it.

• 1:22:37Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 1:22:38Mark Normand?

  Tell them we sent ya.

• 1:22:39Sam Morril?

  Yeah, well, guys, thanks for listening. Uh, by the way, shout out Jezzle Nick, Red Stoner. Enjoyed it. Good rec.

• 1:22:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 1:22:47Sam Morril?

  I liked the book. You couldn't get through it, you said. I guess mixed reviews. I thought it was, I thought it was good, Peters. I enjoyed the book and it was, uh, it was, I thought it was solid.

• 1:22:56Mark Normand?

  All right.

• 1:22:57Sam Morril?

  Slow burn, character study type thing, but like very well written. And at the end, I put it down like, huh.

• 1:23:02Mark Normand?

  He knows books. He's a reader.

• 1:23:03Sam Morril?

  I enjoyed it, yeah. And another quick shout out to my buddy, uh, Joel Wolkowski.

• 1:23:07Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:23:08Sam Morril?

  Uh, wrote a book Honolulu Blues. Really good.

• 1:23:11Mark Normand?

  He wrote it?

• 1:23:12Sam Morril?

  He wrote it. It's about his life as, you know, the struggles he's had, his relationship with his father, this troubled relationship he's had with his dad, and, uh, and his relationship with the Detroit Lions and like how losing shaped him and who he is. So. If you're a Detroit person, you gotta pick this book up. And if you're, you know, just a sports fan in general, it it'll resonate, just like the ups and downs. It's it's a touching book.

• 1:23:35Mark Normand?

  All right.

• 1:23:35Sam Morril?

  So shout out Joel, my basketball buddy. Proud of you for writing that.

• 1:23:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah, very impressed. Wrote a whole book. Good for you, man.

• 1:23:42Sam Morril?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:42Mark Normand?

  That's awesome.

• 1:23:43Sam Morril?

  So Mark, where are you gonna be?

• 1:23:44Mark Normand?

  Hey, going out to Royal Oak, Michigan for Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle.

• 1:23:49Sam Morril?

  Great club.

• 1:23:49Mark Normand?

  Great club, low tickets, hilarities, another great club.

• 1:23:53Sam Morril?

  Oh, my favorite.

• 1:23:54Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I'm on I'm on a generational run unless we, uh.

• 1:23:58Sam Morril?

  Well, you're gonna have to cancel some of this shit, bro.

• 1:24:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah, we'll see what happens. Let's get this going. Happy to cancel Emerald City Comedy Club in Seattle. Never been, but I heard it's great. Science Boys in Tampa and the Clubhouse in East Hampton. Those are fun. Bring the wife and kids. I'll go to the beach. Cobb's in San Fran.

• 1:24:15Sam Morril?

  You're canceling all these, buddy.

• 1:24:16Mark Normand?

  Austin, Houston Improv.

• 1:24:18Sam Morril?

  None of these are gonna happen.

• 1:24:19Mark Normand?

  I'd let be that'd be a great problem to have. Zany's in Nashville.

• 1:24:23Sam Morril?

  Cancel it.

• 1:24:24Mark Normand?

  Improv in Pittsburgh and Casino Regina, Regina. And then the last stop in Calgary. We're going all the way to Canada, the Great White Way. Acme in Minneapolis.

• 1:24:36Sam Morril?

  Oh, man, I haven't been there in years. Great one.

• 1:24:37Mark Normand?

  Great club. And then Comedy Works in Denver. Look at this. Look at it's good to be back. My comedy on state, Wisconsin.

• 1:24:42Sam Morril?

  I gotta get, I I feel like I finally have a base of new shit. I guess I gotta keep rolling.

• 1:24:46Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah. Takes forever and it's a slog, isn't it?

• 1:24:49Sam Morril?

  August 30th, I got Lisbon. Can't wait for that festival. Then I got Athens, Greece. Tickets moving, baby. Then we got Budapest. Tickets are very slow in Budapest, so come on, guys. Help a brother out there in Budapest. Buy some tickets in Hungary. Zagreb, looking good there. We got Vienna, Warsaw, added a show in Warsaw. My Jewish brother, that's my, that's my 23andMe heritage. You guys better show out.

• 1:25:10Mark Normand?

  Poland's awesome.

• 1:25:11Sam Morril?

  Helsinki, can't wait. Uh, Stockholm, Sweden and Copenhagen. And that's all in September, so I can't wait. And hopefully we're shooting this movie very soon.

• 1:25:21Mark Normand?

  Let's hope so. Pray to Allah.

• 1:25:23Sam Morril?

  Buy some Bodega Cat whiskey. And hey, if you're still listening, guys. Certain clubs are not carrying our whiskey that we've played for many years.

• 1:25:31Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:25:31Sam Morril?

  That we support and that we like and we'd like to play again.

• 1:25:34Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:25:34Sam Morril?

  We're talking about you Funny Bone.

• 1:25:36Mark Normand?

  Funny Bone, what happened? I thought we had a good, good relationship.

• 1:25:39Sam Morril?

  If you like the pod and you like Bodega Cat Whiskey, or you just like us, flood the comments on Instagram for all the Funny Bone Clubs. Why aren't you carrying Bodega Cat? Say, please, carry Bodega Cat. We want Bodega Cat in the menu. Be respectful, be nice, but just say, hey, it'd be cool if you carried Bodega Cat Whiskey. All the Funny Bone Instagram handles, all that shit.

• 1:25:58Mark Normand?

  It'd be nice. Yeah, come on. We'd love to have you. And fans, uh, comment on them.

• 1:26:03Sam Morril?

  And we hopefully will be playing those clubs again soon and

• 1:26:05Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:26:06Sam Morril?

  And we could do drink deals and all that stuff, so we'll, we'll be back soon. But we love you guys. Thanks for listening.

• 1:26:10Mark Normand?

  Thank you, comedy.

• 1:26:12Speaker 05

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