Our Favorite YouTube Videos Ever!

This week, Marques, Andrew, and David jump right into all things YouTube! It's the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video upload so everyone takes turns talking about what their favorite videos are before getting into the big antitrust news of the week regarding Google. Then they talk about Nintendo Switch 2 pre-orders and Apple and Meta getting hit some huge fines. After that, it's time to pick the Crown and Clown of the month before getting intro trivia. Enjoy! Links: 20 years of YouTube Blog David's favorite video Marques's favorite video Andrew's favorite video Ellis's favorite video Adam's favorite video Search Engine episode Verge - Google's antitrust trial Verge - Apple and Meta DMA Fines New Atlas - Record breaking pixel density Digital Foundry - Nintendo Switch 2 article Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:28Speaker 01

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• 1:32Andrew Manganelli?

  One is to prevent Google from striking deals for Prime search engine placement. Referenced how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually.

• 1:40David Imel?

  Amazon has their own search engine?

• 1:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I missed it?

• 1:45David Imel?

  No, you just said Prime search engine placement.

• 1:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 1:48David Imel?

  You very much confused me.

• 1:50Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought maybe. But yeah, I mean, we've talked about how much Google pays Apple.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  What's up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're hosts, I'm Marquez.

• 2:05Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm Andrew.

• 2:06Speaker 04

  And I'm Nintendo Switch 2.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  We're gonna keep this big.

• 2:09Speaker 04

  I don't really know how long we're gonna keep doing this.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  We might as well. It's early in the SEO, so you know, that might, that might work. Thanks, Transcript. No, in today's episode, we got some updates. Actually, it's a lot of updates to things. Blue Sky, Apple Intelligence, what else? Switch 2 pre-orders are on the list. Multiple antitrust lawsuits, because those are gonna keep getting updated. So the tech move, so the tech world, so, so tech moves fast and lots of updates happen. So we're gonna keep covering them. It's great. Yeah.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Hey, but yeah, if that sounds interesting to you, make sure you get subscribed to the Waveform Podcast here on YouTube, because it turns out, a lot of people see these in their homepage and they do watch them and enjoy them, but then they don't subscribe and it would be cool if you did.

• 2:54Andrew Manganelli?

  But if you don't like us, don't subscribe. Cause it'll be really annoying if we pop up making a Nintendo Switch 2 joke in your feed every week.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm sorry.

• 3:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. No, it's okay.

• 3:04Speaker 04

  And we make a lot of inside jokes.

• 3:05Andrew Manganelli?

  We do make a lot of them. You gotta subscribe to figure out what the inside jokes are.

• 3:10Speaker 04

  It's true. One day, we should do like just a big episode where we just explain all the inside jokes and that's it.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  I bet we could.

• 3:16Speaker 04

  Just reference that episode if you wanna know what we're talking about.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  As a footnote every time we make the joke.

• 3:21Andrew Manganelli?

  But we have two small things first. The first one is, within like a couple of hours of last episode, somebody on our subreddit made the crank prototype that you have to wind in to watch YouTube videos.

• 3:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Which was crazy.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, pretty insane. I didn't see it working, but I, I'm gonna take their word for it. They just actually.

• 3:42Andrew Manganelli?

  They only posted pictures.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  Right.

• 3:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm going to throw it out there. If you could post a video, that would be awesome. I would like to see that, but it is not lost on us that we have an audience big enough that literally within 12 hours, someone like made a stupid joke that we made in a game.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  So awesome.

• 3:58Andrew Manganelli?

  That's like crazy to see and really cool.

• 4:00Speaker 01

  Please do not bring any of the others to life. Please.

• 4:04David Imel?

  Force Mark has to pick people up on the street.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  Please do not do that.

• 4:06David Imel?

  And watch that horrible, uh, listen to that horrible song on Spotify. You don't need it.

• 4:10Andrew Manganelli?

  There was a comment that was just like, how dare you for playing that that long?

• 4:15David Imel?

  I was like, I can't think, I can't think.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  But the second thing.

• 4:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Is actually a question that I have for you guys, listening and watching, especially here on YouTube. So a little backstory for the last couple of, almost actually probably more than a year, last couple of months, we've been working on both doing transcripts for every MKBHD video and more recently, dubs in multiple languages for MKBHD videos in an attempt to make them more accessible to people in different regions who don't speak English. You may know, a lot of people who watch our videos mostly live in English speaking regions and watch videos in English. But if you live in a Spanish speaking country, you might not watch these videos unless you have captions or maybe a dub in Spanish. And so it kind of unlocks availability of these videos.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  So we've been experimenting with it and trying a bunch of different things. We found something that works pretty well for captions. The dubs are interesting because we've experimented both with humans who speak both languages, both English and say Spanish, doing a direct translation, but they don't really sound like me.

• 5:20Andrew Manganelli?

  They also take a long time.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  They also take much longer and obviously are pretty pricey, but then there's also AI dubs, which are a machine that sounds like me, but isn't necessarily a perfect representation. You know how Google translates a little off sometimes, but it actually does a voice dub of something that sounds like me in that other language, which is really interesting. It's faster, it's cheaper, but it's not as accurate. We've been playing with this a lot in, in different videos, different timing, different sorts of things. And the question that I have for you guys is specifically in our number two most popular country, which pop quiz is?

• 5:56Andrew Manganelli?

  India.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Is India. A lot of people in India speak multiple languages or do speak English or speak Hindi or, or sometimes switch back and forth between the two. And some of them watch videos in English or Hindi. I don't know if you've watched tech YouTube in India. Sometimes they switch back and forth as well. And the latest video, which was a Light Phone 3 review, we uploaded it at the same time with dubs in my voice in Spanish and Hindi.

• 6:23Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought you learned Hindi.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  No, yeah, I didn't learn Hindi. This was actually a dub. And interestingly, Spanish, mostly positive feedback, people watching the videos in Spanish-speaking regions. What happens on YouTube is they detect that you're in a Spanish-speaking region and automatically play the video with the Spanish language. And a lot of people I saw on Twitter were very excited, like, oh, wow, I can watch the video basically in English on this channel, or in Spanish on this channel. And I saw mixed feedback from India because a lot of people in India, like I said, watch videos in English. And so when they opened the new video, it defaulted to the audio track of the Hindi dub.

• 6:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  When they actually are pretty used to watching videos in English.

• 7:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 7:00Speaker 01

  And so some people were saying, oh, wow, this is Hindi. I like this better. I'll watch this. A lot of people were like, no, I don't like this. I'd rather watch in English like I usually do.

• 7:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  And so I had a small sample size. This is why I'm opening it up to the waveform commenting audience. What, if you live in India and watch YouTube videos, what do you prefer? Do you prefer defaulting to English or defaulting to Hindi? You can dive into the settings and change it on a per-video basis, but I'm curious what your default is in what you watch on YouTube.

• 7:29Andrew Manganelli?

  I can see that's a, I think the biggest issue we have here is that it defaults based on region. Because we've already shown that India is our number two, like, most-watched country. So they clearly are enjoying it in English. We wanted to do Hindi, so it might branch out to some more people. But it defaulting if you are already a subscriber and used to it. That's probably annoying to now check it off every time.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  I think that's why it hit. So like, in a lot of countries that are not on our top countries list, they're not on the list because most people don't watch videos in English in those places. So if you just pick a random country that doesn't speak English and then give them a dub, that might boost the amount of people who enjoy the videos in that country. But in like, US, or a bunch of places here that speak English, they don't want to dub in a language they're not used to. So that's kind of why it feels like we're seeing that level of feedback.

• 8:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. Our, our other question is the difference between a human-created dub or an AI dub.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 8:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Not even really. The price that's our issue, it's that I think a human one usually takes about five days, four to five days where we can get an AI one in less than 24 hours and sometimes upload at the same time. So we're not sure if like, we've been testing both of where does it, is it a good benefit for us? Because is five days after the release kind of too late?

• 8:43Speaker 01

  Most of the time, yeah, it's, it's a great point because most, if you look at the curve of an upload, it's like this and usually after five days it's there and everyone's watched it. Who's going to watch it like tech videos have a really short shelf life a lot of times. Evergreen videos, maybe the people watch it longer down the road. That's cool. But yeah, I, I do think we got some feedback about the dub, the AI dub not being as accurate.

• 9:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, for sure.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Which was our, and I can't fact check that because I don't speak the other languages.

• 9:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Right.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  So TV.

• 9:11Andrew Manganelli?

  It's definitely a pickle we're in, but would love to hear some feedback on a larger audience than just Twitter. I guess. So that's why we're posing it to you all, but next thing.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  Speaking of YouTube audiences, ha, I got that one good. We're recording this on Wednesday, which is the day of the anniversary of the 20th year since the first upload to YouTube. I could have phrased.

• 9:34Andrew Manganelli?

  That was the longest.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  20th anniversary of the first YouTube video. This is the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube upload.

• 9:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 9:43Andrew Manganelli?

  There you go.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Me at the zoo by Jod. Yeah. 2005.

• 9:46David Imel?

  Yeah. The thing about those elephants is they have really long snouts.

• 9:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you remember the script for this video?

• 9:53David Imel?

  Yeah, I watched it this morning.

• 9:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, is that what he said?

• 9:55David Imel?

  It's also like, yeah.

• 9:55Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't remember at all.

• 9:56David Imel?

  20 seconds long.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Could have been trivia.

• 9:58Andrew Manganelli?

  That could have been. It's chapered off now too.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  What?

• 10:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, really? I noticed that this morning. I was like, these chapters are flying by because it's.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, 19 seconds.

• 10:08Andrew Manganelli?

  You're like intros.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  Funny.

• 10:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, it's. Chaptered, but they're just all called intro. I'm very intro, the cool thing end.

• 10:18Andrew Manganelli?

  They must, do they just like test half their features on this video?

• 10:21Speaker 01

  No, I think he logs back in.

• 10:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, he logs back in?

• 10:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's notoriously like changed the description of the video multiple times and like pinned comments because he was a founder of YouTube, so when he adds something there, it's like the founder of YouTube just said something, does he change the description of the video?

• 10:35Speaker 04

  Did you see that on the video? There's a little birthday cake?

• 10:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  Just for today. It might be gone by the time you listen to this podcast, but I thought that's, that was pretty cool.

• 10:43David Imel?

  That video can almost drink just one more year.

• 10:45Andrew Manganelli?

  That's in the US, it can drink basically anywhere else.

• 10:48David Imel?

  It can already enlist in the army.

• 10:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, that again too.

• 10:51Speaker 01

  I have some interesting numbers I'd like to share with you guys.

• 10:54David Imel?

  Forty-seven.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  That are pretty crazy. So, number one.

• 10:57David Imel?

  That's a pretty crazy number.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Number one is, this is the first video uploaded to YouTube, it was 2005. Since then, over twenty trillion videos have been uploaded to YouTube.

• 11:09Speaker 04

  Hey, Adam from the future here. So I'm editing this episode and it turns out that YouTube actually updated their blog to say twenty billion YouTube videos. Not twenty trillion YouTube videos, as we say here. Okay, back to the episode.

• 11:22Andrew Manganelli?

  If I had a nickel.

• 11:24David Imel?

  You'd be pretty wealthy, my friend.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  I don't know if you understand.

• 11:29David Imel?

  You could pay off the US national debt.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  Like the amount of storage space.

• 11:34David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  The amount of content.

• 11:36David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Twenty tril- not one trillion.

• 11:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Twenty trillion.

• 11:41David Imel?

  I would like to know how much storage YouTube is currently actively hosting.

• 11:46Andrew Manganelli?

  Would you?

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Twenty trillion.

• 11:47David Imel?

  Yes.

• 11:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Would you like to know that?

• 11:48David Imel?

  Yes.

• 11:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Cause it would probably blow your mind.

• 11:50David Imel?

  That's why I would like to know. I would really like to know.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  The other, the crazy thing is twenty years, twenty trillion. So obviously we've gotten like a lot of videos per year.

• 11:59David Imel?

  Yeah, there was exponential growth though.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  On YouTube, fittingly, on their twentieth birthday, they found that uh, there are roughly twenty million new videos uploaded every day.

• 12:08David Imel?

  Twenty million new videos.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  That's another crazy stat.

• 12:11David Imel?

  ChatGPT is notoriously not great at math.

• 12:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, this is, this is really easy though. Sorry. It'd be one trillion dollars. It's twenty trillion nickels because.

• 12:20Speaker 01

  Oh, you did? If you had a nickel?

• 12:22Andrew Manganelli?

  I had to use ChatGPT.

• 12:23David Imel?

  Cause a nickel's a twentieth of a.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  That is correct.

• 12:25David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  You'd have one trillion dollars. But yeah, twenty, twenty million videos uploaded every day.

• 12:29David Imel?

  As we can't.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Um, and YouTube users upload, or sorry, YouTube users average over a hundred million comments every single day.

• 12:39Speaker 04

  A hundred million?

• 12:40Speaker 01

  A hundred million comments. And I'm sure there's a graph somewhere of like 99% of the videos have zero comments and 1% of the videos have all the comments. Thanks to the waveform listeners for that.

• 12:50David Imel?

  That's crazy.

• 12:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Forty-seven of those are useful comments.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:53Andrew Manganelli?

  That's where that number came from.

• 12:54David Imel?

  So you said, you said 20 million a day?

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Twenty million videos get uploaded a day.

• 13:01David Imel?

  How many comments per day?

• 13:02Speaker 01

  And a hundred million comments are posted on YouTube every day.

• 13:06David Imel?

  And 999 million of those were waveform comments.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  You mean 99 million? Cause there's a hundred million total.

• 13:13Andrew Manganelli?

  We just, we broke the scale.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  I'm sorry. Math is hard. The last thing is, they discovered that creators, you know, you can heart a video, you can like a video, you can pin a, sorry, a comment. You can heart a comment. Creators hearted 10 million comments every single day.

• 13:30David Imel?

  Wow.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  There's a lot.

• 13:32David Imel?

  That's crazy.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  A lot of heart engagement going on.

• 13:33David Imel?

  You know what's an interesting thing about YouTube? The like feature, I don't like that the like feature automatically adds it to a like videos playlist.

• 13:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Same.

• 13:42David Imel?

  Yeah, because sometimes I'm just like, I'm supporting my friend. Like, I was looking through my liked videos on YouTube today. And mostly I just like videos that my friends upload just to give them a boost. But I don't actually like the videos that I like, which is actually stupid of me.

• 14:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you have playlists? Did you make, have you made your own playlists?

• 14:02David Imel?

  No.

• 14:03Andrew Manganelli?

  That's what I do. My liked playlist is just me trying to like, support people that I like. And then I make the Disc Golf workout, whatever documentary playlist, and then just save them to those instead.

• 14:15David Imel?

  Interesting.

• 14:16Speaker 04

  But if you use YouTube Music, I believe.

• 14:18Andrew Manganelli?

  No one does that?

• 14:20David Imel?

  Wow.

• 14:21Speaker 04

  Well, if you like something, like a song, it also still saves on your liked playlist. Or even shorts. I've liked shorts and it saves in my liked videos.

• 14:30David Imel?

  That's annoying.

• 14:30Andrew Manganelli?

  That's, that's why that's a total throwaway playlist in my eyes.

• 14:33David Imel?

  Yeah. And it gives you an Amazon ad to buy them.

• 14:36Andrew Manganelli?

  What?

• 14:37David Imel?

  The shorts.

• 14:39Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 14:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Backwards pockets.

• 14:41David Imel?

  Where would we be without that?

• 14:42Speaker 01

  Dude, I was running with the... Did I show you them?

• 14:45Andrew Manganelli?

  That's... That might have been the deepest inside joke we've had in a while. I would like to see them later.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  I will bring them in next week.

• 14:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're backwards. I have a bizarro backwards twist. I want to do trivia.

• 14:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  It's not for your trivia, it's for I have trivia for you guys. Just curious if you know the answers. Because obviously I know the YouTube trivia, but if you haven't already read the blog post, we'll see what you guys think.

• 15:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  You remember when the first ever YouTube video hit a billion views?

• 15:11David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  You remember which one that is, right?

• 15:12David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Which one is that?

• 15:14David Imel?

  It was Gangnam Style.

• 15:15Andrew Manganelli?

  That's what I thought it was?

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 15:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  There are now, how many videos in the billion view club?

• 15:22David Imel?

  One billion.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  On YouTube?

• 15:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Closest delta?

• 15:25Speaker 01

  Closest delta. Yeah.

• 15:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Twenty?

• 15:28Speaker 04

  No, I'm going with a hundred.

• 15:30David Imel?

  A thousand.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  Twenty, a hundred, a thousand? A hundred is the closest.

• 15:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  There are three hundred music videos. Three hundred music videos.

• 15:40Andrew Manganelli?

  They're all music videos?

• 15:41Speaker 01

  I think there's a few more random, like, kids videos that are also in the billion view club.

• 15:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I would assume they're all kids videos.

• 15:47Speaker 01

  But three hundred music videos, and the fastest, which took eighty-eight days, was which one?

• 15:54Andrew Manganelli?

  To a billion?

• 15:55David Imel?

  Justin Bieber.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  Fastest to a billion?

• 15:57David Imel?

  It was that Justin Bieber song.

• 15:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Despacito? It's not kids videos?

• 16:00Speaker 01

  It's not Despacito.

• 16:02David Imel?

  It's not Gangnam Style.

• 16:03Andrew Manganelli?

  It's not Baby Shark.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  It's not Baby Shark.

• 16:05David Imel?

  Baby by Justin Bieber, right?

• 16:06Speaker 01

  It's not Baby. Baby was the first to a million dislikes or something else? It was one of the most disliked videos ever.

• 16:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Until 2019 rewinds.

• 16:15David Imel?

  Joke's on you guys, though. It's still a view.

• 16:18Speaker 01

  I'll give you the countdown of the four, three, and two.

• 16:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 16:22David Imel?

  Okay.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  Four is Rosé by Bruno Mars, a hundred and five days.

• 16:26David Imel?

  I don't even know that song.

• 16:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, that song is a banger.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  Three is Mi Hente by Willie William and Jay Balvin, a hundred and three days.

• 16:34Andrew Manganelli?

  That's a good one.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Then there's a tie at two, Ed Sheeran, Shape of You, and Despacito tied at ninety-seven days.

• 16:41David Imel?

  What?

• 16:42Speaker 01

  And this one beat them all in just eighty-eight days, getting a billion views.

• 16:46Andrew Manganelli?

  Was it recent? Like, I feel like in the past year, maybe?

• 16:49Speaker 01

  No, it's not in the last year.

• 16:51David Imel?

  Is it old? You all know the song.

• 16:54Speaker 04

  Reviewing every iPhone.

• 16:55Andrew Manganelli?

  So it's a song.

• 16:58David Imel?

  Yeah, it's a music video. It's a song.

• 17:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Can you give us the genre?

• 17:02David Imel?

  Um, it's pop. I will tell you.

• 17:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Is it pop with a letter in front of it?

• 17:06David Imel?

  No. K-pop. K-pop. My last hint is that the artist's name kinda sounds like a tech company.

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Bruno Mars.

• 17:17David Imel?

  Jay-Z.

• 17:19Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm just assuming Pitbull's part of it somehow.

• 17:22David Imel?

  Pitbull. He's probably solo. Solo video.

• 17:25Speaker 04

  Tech company.

• 17:26David Imel?

  Man, this is a lot. This is a hard. Solo artist. Okay, give us another hint.

• 17:29Andrew Manganelli?

  He played the first note?

• 17:30David Imel?

  She is the only one in the video.

• 17:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 17:32David Imel?

  Oh.

• 17:33Speaker 04

  Ariana Grande?

• 17:34David Imel?

  No.

• 17:34Andrew Manganelli?

  He played the first note?

• 17:35David Imel?

  Yeah, he gave it away.

• 17:36Andrew Manganelli?

  The first note?

• 17:38David Imel?

  100%.

• 17:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I mean, we're not getting it. It seems like we're not getting it anymore. I wanna hear just the first note. This is just the first note.

• 17:44David Imel?

  I'm gonna give it away right now.

• 17:47Andrew Manganelli?

  This isn't like Friday, is it?

• 17:49Speaker 04

  No.

• 17:51David Imel?

  This is Adele.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 17:54David Imel?

  Hello? Oh, yeah.

• 17:56Andrew Manganelli?

  That's the fastest to a billion views?

• 17:57David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 17:58Speaker 04

  Really?

• 17:58David Imel?

  You know how I know that?

• 17:59Speaker 04

  You didn't.

• 18:01Andrew Manganelli?

  Sorry.

• 18:02Speaker 04

  You did not know that.

• 18:03David Imel?

  You know how I know that that is true? After hearing that it is true?

• 18:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:08David Imel?

  How I can verify?

• 18:11David Imel?

  My economics professor played it, played the music video for us as we walked in and he said, "This song is a banger, guys. I just had to let you know this."

• 18:20Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 18:20David Imel?

  That's my, the only teacher who has ever played a music video for me in class. 88 days. It now has 3 billion views.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  Jeez.

• 18:28David Imel?

  And you know what? There were like 100 of us in that class, so it actually has 3,100 views. But it only got one view from the economics professor. Nice. Yeah, he probably watched it a few times. Definitely.

• 18:39Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 18:40David Imel?

  Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, there's your random trivia.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  Good trivia.

• 18:43David Imel?

  From Marquez of the day. Well.

• 18:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Are we down to keep going semi-off the rails here? Cause I have a question.

• 18:48David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 18:49Speaker 04

  We're already so far gone, we might as well.

• 18:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Because it's the 20th year of the first upload, I wanted everyone here to pick their favorite video on YouTube.

• 18:58David Imel?

  Oh, I did.

• 18:59Andrew Manganelli?

  And say it out loud here. It can be, you know, funny, educational, anything, just one you really enjoy.

• 19:06David Imel?

  Okay.

• 19:06Andrew Manganelli?

  For whatever reason. Do you want to go first?

• 19:09David Imel?

  Yeah. Okay, so this is really, really hard, obviously.

• 19:12Andrew Manganelli?

  It is super hard.

• 19:14David Imel?

  But one that really sticks out in my head, pretty, pretty strongly, is the Vsauce video that's called Do Chairs Exist?

• 19:22Andrew Manganelli?

  I feel like we've vaguely talked about this before.

• 19:24David Imel?

  I think I've mentioned this video before. I really like this video. I think it goes, I think it's like 40% too long.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  Not right for Vsauce.

• 19:33David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 19:34Andrew Manganelli?

  1.5x speed fixes that.

• 19:36David Imel?

  Well, I actually recently hit 3.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  Let's go. 3X?

• 19:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 19:41Andrew Manganelli?

  New PR?

• 19:42David Imel?

  I can only, I can only do it on my phone, but I've been doing everything at 3 recently.

• 19:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Except for Hank videos.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Diabolical dude.

• 19:49David Imel?

  Cause he already talks fast.

• 19:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Hank Green already talks very fast, so.

• 19:52David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  Can you watch Phil Franco videos?

• 19:54David Imel?

  I have not watched one since like 2015.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, you wouldn't survive long on 3X. 3X would just be like, like a fire hose of information.

• 20:02David Imel?

  Yeah. I will say, so in the, in the spirit of this YouTube thing, I think that's one of my favorite videos. My most influential channel for me was a channel called Nerdwriter1, which was like the original video essay guy on YouTube before they became.

• 20:18Andrew Manganelli?

  The OG.

• 20:18David Imel?

  Before the category became popular.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Very nice.

• 20:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you want to go? You looked pretty excited this morning when you were thinking about.

• 20:24David Imel?

  I thought of two. One of them, to me, is the, the goofy murder trail.

• 20:32David Imel?

  Comic video. But that's just a video that I laugh every time I watch it.

• 20:36Andrew Manganelli?

  I had never seen it until I started working here.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  I think I've watched it at least 10 times.

• 20:40David Imel?

  What about the Evanescence goofy cover?

• 20:42Speaker 01

  I've watched those.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  But I'll recommend, I'll recommend another one that I think most people haven't seen, which is about 10 years ago, and I showed this on Twitter when it went up. There's a video that got recommended to me called Nobody Tells Us to Beginners, and it is a purely motion graphics video. Um, which is basically just walking through an Ira Glass quote.

• 21:02David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  But it is about how when you're starting up as a creator of any kind, there's always a gap between your skill level and your taste and what you believe is good. And the more you work and close that gap, the better your taste gets. And you're always chasing that.

• 21:19David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  And nobody tells that to beginners. So you just, as a beginner, assume you will never reach the level of your taste. But if you zoom out enough, you actually have passed your previous best. Anyway, it's

• 21:29David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  A minute and a half long. It's very inspiring. We'll link it below. I re-watch it probably at least once a year.

• 21:35David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  It's a banger.

• 21:36David Imel?

  Yeah, that quote is great.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:38David Imel?

  Did you, he did a, um, Ira Glass did an interview recently on that podcast that started from the ashes of Reply All.

• 21:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Hyperfixed?

• 21:50David Imel?

  No, the other one.

• 21:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, the PJ vote version. He's done a couple. Is it on Search Engine?

• 21:54David Imel?

  Search Engine, yeah. He did a video, he did a podcast called, uh, Is It Okay To Just Work All The Time? And it's basically just an interview with Ira Glass, but it is a very inspiring, very, uh, very interesting interview. I think you should listen to it.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  I'm downloading it right now for my flight.

• 22:09David Imel?

  Do it.

• 22:10Andrew Manganelli?

  What's it called?

• 22:10David Imel?

  It's called, Is It Okay To Just Work All The Time? And the podcast is called

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Search Engine.

• 22:15David Imel?

  Search Engine.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:17Andrew Manganelli?

  This Reddit post about it just says, a podcaster interviewing another podcaster about making a podcast?

• 22:26Speaker 04

  It's crazy how Reply All ended and birthed two awesome podcasts.

• 22:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like a neutron star.

• 22:34David Imel?

  Yeah, he has a really good, Ira Glass has a

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 22:38David Imel?

  Nerd. Ira Glass has a, Glass has a really good quote in that where he's like, um, he's like, why would I put out anything unless it was incredible? There's enough mid [BLEEP] on the internet already.

• 22:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Damn.

• 22:52David Imel?

  Hell yeah, brother. Let's go.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  What a bar.

• 22:54David Imel?

  Anyway.

• 22:55Speaker 04

  Andrew, what's yours?

• 22:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, I'm kind of between two, but I'll only say one to not make this go on too long. There's this 25 minute documentary called Remain Seated, Please. And it's just a story about these two friends who loved this ride at Epcot Disney so much. Called Horizon, which was like this old ride that showed you like what the future looked like. And then they started finding ways to like get out of the car and walk around the back of like the sets and like on the sets. And they videotaped it with like an old VHS and then they uploaded it like way later.

• 23:30Andrew Manganelli?

  And it's just like really fascinating about them just like being these like full grown adults, just like walking around the set of this like Futuristic ride and they had to like duck behind. So when the cars came by and like people were actually watching it. Um, but they spent like years doing it. And just like this, it's this 25 minute documentary where you learn almost nothing, but keeps you entertained the entire time. So you don't need to be like super paying it to be like seven minutes long then. But, uh, yeah, I think it's one of my favorite, favorite videos on YouTube.

• 24:04Speaker 04

  That's a good one. Uh, I'm going to play Ellis's next because he's out sick today, but he did send in a video.

• 24:09Speaker 05

  What is up pod people? Uh, as you know, I'm sick, uh, but couldn't miss out on this opportunity to drop my favorite YouTube videos out there. Uh, a lot of my favorite videos are these really long sort of video essay things that require a lot of context to explain like the defunct land, uh, Disney Channel theme video or, uh, the John Boyce Dave Steve video.

• 24:35Speaker 04

  That's a good one.

• 24:35David Imel?

  John Boyce videos are incredible.

• 24:37Speaker 05

  Favorite YouTube video, uh, that I feel like needs no context, uh, is, uh, it's called nightclub for deer. Uh, I do like it. You're good. You're good. Yeah, come on. All the deer. Come on through. All the deer. All the deer at one time. Come on. All the deer. More deer. Give me more, more deer. Come on, more. Give me some more, even more deer. Come on, come on. Wait a minute.

• 25:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Are deer just funny? Because two of the videos I thought of for this was the one where they're recording deer out her window and her husband sneezes and she's like, thanks, Ron. He's like, what? I'm not allowed to sneeze.

• 25:17Speaker 04

  And then there's the other one where the guy's, the guy's dog chases all the deer.

• 25:22David Imel?

  Fenton?

• 25:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 25:25David Imel?

  Have you ever seen it?

• 25:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Fenton, Fenton, no.

• 25:29Speaker 04

  I'm gonna need all of these links because I don't know what they're talking about.

• 25:32David Imel?

  No.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  Where's this dog?

• 25:53Speaker 01

  It's a lot of deer. Dude, that dog saw an opportunity and he took it, dude.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  He's hurting them. He was like, "This is what I was born to do, man. Gotta do it. Somebody gotta do it."

• 26:08Speaker 01

  He's literally hurting them like sheep.

• 26:10Andrew Manganelli?

  I changed my answer.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks, Ryan. Those are quality. Those are quality. Shout out to YouTube, the purest form of social media. Do you have another one?

• 26:25Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm crying.

• 26:28Andrew Manganelli?

  That was so funny.

• 26:29Speaker 04

  Um, yeah, I think mine is probably, do you guys know Tiny Desk, NPR Tiny Desk?

• 26:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:35Speaker 04

  My favorite one is the Mac Miller one because Mac Miller did a Tiny Desk before passing and he played a couple of like my favorite songs and it's just a beautiful performance overall. So a lot of times I'll just play that in the background while I'm like cleaning the house or doing things and great performance, highly recommend it. He's got Thundercat on bass. It's like, it's, it's pretty epic. But yeah, that one's mine.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  Hell, yeah.

• 26:57Andrew Manganelli?

  How far into the pot are we already? Cause we haven't touched a single news story.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  We're celebrating YouTube.

• 27:03Speaker 04

  Yeah. Um, we are like 30 ish minutes in.

• 27:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Almost all of these are updates, so we can like.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  We can speed run them after the break. How about that?

• 27:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, cool.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:12Andrew Manganelli?

  It's a long break, but yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  After what break? Alright, we gotta take a quick break. But before we do that.

• 27:17Speaker 04

  Break already?

• 27:18Speaker 01

  We, we, we do have more trivia.

• 27:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Trivia.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Dude. Yeah.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  Okay, so Ellis is out sick again, but I have an Ellis style question because of it.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  These are all real Google services that I grabbed from the Google graveyard.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 27:35Speaker 04

  Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests? A, Grasshopper, B, Streams, C, Polly, or D, Shoelace?

• 27:52Speaker 01

  And they'd just be taking whatever.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  Whatever.

• 27:56David Imel?

  Tebow. Tuboo.

• 27:58Speaker 04

  You want a hint?

• 28:00David Imel?

  Scoobo.

• 28:01Speaker 04

  It was 11 months old when, when they discontinued.

• 28:06David Imel?

  Didn't even make it a year.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 28:08David Imel?

  It's definitely not Polly. I know that.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  At least let it get to the end of the year. Wow.

• 28:11David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  Okay, well, we'll think about that and answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back.

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• 30:10Speaker 01

  All right, welcome back. We got a couple more updates to speed run through as we mentioned. First update, which is just kind of a random but funny headline, which is Apple was forced to drop the available now.

• 30:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Not quite forced, recommended.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  They were recommended to and smartly complied. The National Advertising Division recommended that Apple remove the available now claim from the Apple Intelligence website. I think that's fair.

• 30:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I think that's super fair.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Half available now, but also most. It's a bunch of different things, whatever. Apple defines Apple Intelligence however they want. Some of it is available now, some of it is not. And so they were recommended to modify or discontinue the claim.

• 30:50Andrew Manganelli?

  They said they disagreed, but they.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  But they went.

• 30:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Followed.

• 30:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:54David Imel?

  The only part of Apple Intelligence that I consider truly available now is Genmoji. And the writing, the writing modification thing just crashes my phone every time I even open it. So I just really, you know, it's just bad for everybody.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  Image playground.

• 31:10Andrew Manganelli?

  I forgot that would exist.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  That's about.

• 31:12David Imel?

  Taking up storage on my phone. I would like to forget about it.

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's all.

• 31:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Just kind of a funny. Just one more thing. Right before Dub Dub, we'll probably see Apple Intelligence completely.

• 31:25David Imel?

  It's been over 10 months since they announced Apple Intelligence and like all the Siri updates and stuff.

• 31:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:31David Imel?

  They also shuffled the leadership that's handling Apple Intelligence very recently because they're just like, oh, God.

• 31:38Andrew Manganelli?

  It's like they brought in a bunch of the Vision Pro team, right? I think that's what Mark German said.

• 31:41David Imel?

  Yeah. Because regardless of your stance on the Vision Pro, at least it's a product that is out.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  It does exist.

• 31:48David Imel?

  It does exist.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  It is available now.

• 31:50David Imel?

  It is available now. So.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. Shout out to available now.

• 31:53David Imel?

  That's why they brought it in. But speaking of.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 31:58David Imel?

  Things on the internet.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 32:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Is it?

• 32:01David Imel?

  What?

• 32:01Andrew Manganelli?

  You could do better.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Apple Intelligence.

• 32:02David Imel?

  I could do better.

• 32:05David Imel?

  Surprise Fediverse corner. You didn't expect that.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what the Fediverse updates, David.

• 32:15David Imel?

  Yeah, okay, so Blue Sky has added verified checkmarks.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Wait, have they actually rolled it out?

• 32:23David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 32:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I got like pop up on it.

• 32:24David Imel?

  It's rolling out, yeah.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  I thought it was only for certain like organizations.

• 32:28David Imel?

  Well, that's how it's working in general. So they are veri- so, okay. If you remember how verified badges used to work on Twitter before verified badges across the internet just became pay for play. Uh, it used to be on Twitter that you could apply for verification. People at Twitter would decide, is it important that your account is verified? So that people know that you are the real person that is posting from this account? And someone is not just impersonating you? Which, when it changed to pay for play, was very funny because many brands got impersonated by people and caused markets to dip. And that was really funny.

• 33:04David Imel?

  It was, it was quite.

• 33:05Speaker 04

  It was, I'm not disagreeing with you.

• 33:08David Imel?

  Uh, so now, Blue Sky, after a long period of time, has started rolling out their own form of verification, which looks practically exactly the same. Um, they did say that they had gone through many, many iterations of different things, like different colors and different shapes. But they landed on the blue checkmark because it matches their brand identity. And they said they tested things like green, but that it looked horrible and, uh, did not really relate to the Blue Sky brand like at all. So, for a little back backstory here, Blue Sky wanted the actual form of verification that was going to work on Blue Sky to just be domain name verification. If you don't know, on Blue Sky, there's a thing where if you own your own website,

• 33:52David Imel?

  you can basically go into the DNS settings of your website and say, "Blue Sky, please use my website as my handle," which is the verifying portion of it. So then, when people see your handle, they can see davenwell.com and kubehd.com. And they know that you're the person that is posting because you own the website. Clearly, that's not super scalable for, you know, everybody on the internet because not a super high percentage of people even have their own website. Also-

• 34:22Speaker 04

  No one has their own website.

• 34:23David Imel?

  Well, technically, you're leasing it from the IANA or whatever, but-

• 34:27Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, but I just mean like, we're not the normal people that would have our own-

• 34:30David Imel?

  Yeah, very few people have their own website.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  My mom does not have a website.

• 34:33David Imel?

  Right.

• 34:34Andrew Manganelli?

  I think it's also, in general, just scrolling through the app, harder to tell. Because like, display name still is bigger and bolder and easier to see. Something near there versus the handle part of it-

• 34:44David Imel?

  Right.

• 34:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Is more obvious.

• 34:45David Imel?

  Right, the handle is kind of there. So, they decided, okay, we're officially going to roll this out. Now, the way that they are doing it is, number one, Blue Sky themselves, which is Blue Sky the company, which is not same as, the same as Blue Sky the public benefit company, which makes the AT protocol. Because Blue Sky the company makes Blue Sky the app. I know, it's confusing. They are basically verifying important people that they deem important, so that they can make sure that they don't get spoofed, right?

• 35:16Speaker 04

  Having been hit up yet.

• 35:17David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 35:18Speaker 04

  Flawed the system.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  I was just looking at my following page. The Onion has a verified check right now. The Verge has a verified check on my page right now.

• 35:27David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  There's a journalist I follow, a tech reporter for New York Times. She has a check.

• 35:34David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  I do not have a check. I don't, I think I've been impersonated yet.

• 35:38Speaker 04

  Are you MKBHD?

• 35:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  Can you prove it?

• 35:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 35:43David Imel?

  Yeah. Well, so there's a couple of ways that they're going about this. One, Blue Sky the company is just verifying people, but they're also rolling out something called Trusted Verifiers. And the idea of this is like, okay, if you're the New York Times, and you have a lot of reporters, and generally, when they start verifying people, this is the same thing they did on Twitter, they start with journalists and politicians. Because those are the two people that, the two types of people that spread news the most, the fastest. They, uh, Twitter was also very dominated by journalists and politicians before it even got big. So, what this does is they basically give an organization like the New York Times the ability to verify people on their team. So they say, okay-

• 36:27David Imel?

  Okay, we verify the New York Times, the New York Times verifies their journalists. That sort of allows them to verify people much quicker. And so that's what they're doing right now. They surprisingly got a lot of pushback on this. A lot of people on on Bluesky were not too happy about this. Many people said it creates a caste system of popularity.

• 36:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Of lords and peasants.

• 36:50David Imel?

  Of lords and peasants, which is what Elon said he wanted to get rid of when he made it pay for play.

• 36:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Why can't we all just figure out the big problem on all social media is lords and peasants?

• 37:00David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 37:00Andrew Manganelli?

  How will we solve it?

• 37:01David Imel?

  Yeah, so, okay, I talked to Blue Sky a little bit last night about this because I was like interested in how this worked. Technically, the verification system is on protocol. It is on the AT protocol. So that means that if you start up another Blue Sky-like application that uses the AT protocol, you can choose whether or not you want to show the verification, you know, on your app or not. So, part of the differentiating factor of an app that uses the AT protocol could be that they don't want to show verified badges. If people really are that against it, they can just use something else.

• 37:37Andrew Manganelli?

  It is cool that it's like built into the protocol.

• 37:39David Imel?

  Yeah. It was interesting, like Twitter used to have, they haven't said whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach. I don't think they do.

• 37:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I would hope so. One of the main complaints I'm seeing here is just there's like, please don't only put like verified stuff at the top of replies.

• 37:54David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 37:55Andrew Manganelli?

  That, because then then it feels like really only catered for.

• 38:00David Imel?

  For sure. Like Twitter, I got really lucky in 2013 because someone randomly impersonated me and I put in like a

• 38:10David Imel?

  complaint that was like this person's impersonating me and then Twitter verified me. And in like 2013, that was like a big deal. So everything I ever posted had like much bigger reach because that was the case when you were verified on Twitter way back then. But that's not the case here, I don't think. So, I don't know, I don't really see it as that big of a deal. But people don't want there to be a.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Cast system, I guess.

• 38:34David Imel?

  Yeah, I think it makes sense on any social network where people are spreading information slash news and representing themselves to have some sort of verification system.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:43David Imel?

  I, I think a lot of people are literally reacting to the fact that it looks so much like the Twitter one.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  It looks exactly like it.

• 38:50David Imel?

  Which is a blue checkmark. I, whatever, I get it. But yeah, I think it's important to have this system and the fact that it's both with the protocol is a good thing. So.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:58David Imel?

  I think it's a win.

• 38:59Andrew Manganelli?

  I feel like the blue checkmark has just outgrown Twitter. Like now it's also on Meta. It's a hashtag. The hashtag started on Twitter, but now it's everywhere, you know?

• 39:07David Imel?

  And the problem is that it doesn't mean anything anymore because even Meta, it's just you pay for it. That's it. On Twitter and Meta, you pay for it.

• 39:14Andrew Manganelli?

  And that's. YouTube has it also.

• 39:16David Imel?

  Yeah. But you don't pay for that.

• 39:17Andrew Manganelli?

  No, you don't pay for that. I'm still confused with the music badges, though. I feel like I see people with music badges so much more in comments lately.

• 39:24David Imel?

  I see that a lot, too.

• 39:25Andrew Manganelli?

  And I don't know what.

• 39:26David Imel?

  I think it just mean you're, means you're like a verified artist on YouTube.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  That uploads to YouTube Music.

• 39:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Or something like that.

• 39:32David Imel?

  Yeah. I think it's fine.

• 39:34Andrew Manganelli?

  I think it's fine. I think it's, you don't make it pay to win.

• 39:37David Imel?

  Yeah. The one thing right now is like you can't, you can't request to be verified and they're just kind of going through the people that they think are worth verifying. So I think it's pretty much, at least in this initial wave, just going to be politicians and journalists because they're verifying all the publications and the publications verify, verify their journalists.

• 39:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Hank Green's verified.

• 39:58David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah, well.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  He's Hank Green, though.

• 40:01David Imel?

  He's like one of the biggest accounts on Blue Sky, so that would make sense.

• 40:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. In other news.

• 40:07David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 40:08Andrew Manganelli?

  We have the official preorder date for Nintendo Switch 2.

• 40:11David Imel?

  Nintendo Switch 2.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 40:13Andrew Manganelli?

  And if you're listening to this on Friday.

• 40:14David Imel?

  It already passed.

• 40:15Andrew Manganelli?

  You probably didn't get a Nintendo Switch 2 if this is news to you because it is Thursday, the 24th.

• 40:21David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 40:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, big thing about this, pricing for 49, there are some price increases on a bunch of different accessories ranging from $5 to $10. I think Joy-Cons and Pro Controllers are both $5 more expensive. Some of the cameras are more expensive. Um, so yeah, your little bundle you buy when you buy one is gonna be. Pretty pricey.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, but they didn't raise the price of the console, which is good.

• 40:46Andrew Manganelli?

  I also read that most GameStops are claiming they're expecting around 100 consoles, which is, that's a lot. That really feels like a lot. I think I read somewhere on Twitter that eight years ago, they were getting between like 5 and 30 consoles a store. There's also half as many GameStops as there used to be. So that could be part of the reason.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Your local GameStop may have a line.

• 41:09Andrew Manganelli?

  It's like 11 a.m. in store, but still like Walmart, Target are all doing some sort of pre-orders on the 24th.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's midnight ET on the 24th in the United States.

• 41:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Was it? I thought?

• 41:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, midnight ET. GameStop is different, but the other ones. So tonight. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it's tonight at midnight, which is kind of crazy. And speaking of GameStop, they actually do have some pretty sick trade-in deals. You can get $125 for an original Switch, which considering they originally only costed $300, and that was eight years ago, is a pretty good trade-in, I would say.

• 41:50Andrew Manganelli?

  I think it's awesome because we're all complaining about the price. If you trade one in, you're getting it for about the same price as this.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  As the Switch one.

• 41:58Andrew Manganelli?

  325 instead.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.

• 42:01Andrew Manganelli?

  If it's good. You do need to bring in the original HDMI cord, it said, which I thought was very funny and might mess a lot of people up.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  Which I don't know if I have. There is. That is hilarious. Wait, so you need the original HDMI?

• 42:13Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know. It just listed the stuff because it needs like the console, the dock, the power cord, which also could be a USB-C cord if you lost.

• 42:21Speaker 01

  There's no way anyone has the original HDMI cable.

• 42:24Andrew Manganelli?

  I think I do.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  I mean, some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it, so they probably still have it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess if that's the one you're using, then maybe that's the cable. I have a way longer cable. It's like 15 feet long. Yeah, like I had a cable already, so I definitely, I don't know what I did with that cable. Yeah. You can also get $175 for a Switch OLED trade-ins. I have an OLED, but I'm probably not going to trade it. You can get $100 for a Switch Lite trade-ins.

• 42:49Speaker 04

  I was just gonna ask, are you guys gonna preorder?

• 42:52David Imel?

  I literally go back and forth every single day, dude.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  Minute by minute.

• 42:55Andrew Manganelli?

  I bet at some point tomorrow, I will look at one of the preorders and if it's available, I'll have a very hard time not doing it, mostly because FOMO right there.

• 43:04David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah, I think I'm in the, I'm in the same boat where I'm not gonna try really hard to preorder. But if I happen to stumble on one that's available.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, you happen to go to bestbuy.com or GameStop.

• 43:17David Imel?

  That's what happened to me when I bought my Switch OLED, because they were literally impossible to find for like weeks. And I randomly went on bestbuy.com and I was like, one available near you. And I was like, huh. So I put in my cart for pickup and I showed up to Best Buy and the guy's like, "Oh my god, how did you get this?" Like when he was like checking me out, he's like, "How did you manage to, did you use like a, an app to the?" And I was like,

• 43:36Speaker 01

  Are you a botter?

• 43:38David Imel?

  It was just on the internet, my guy. It was just there.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:41David Imel?

  Another interesting note is that Nintendo had to issue a supply constraint warning in Japan, because it got 2.2 million applications for preorders for the Switch 2. Uh, for reference, it sold 360,000 in Japan in the first month when the Switch 1 came out. So this is about six times that demand, which is absolutely insane. Uh, and it basically said that a significant number of people will not get it on June 5th.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is the, so they just kind of, you just fill out a form, there's no, this isn't people who like put down five bucks or anything.

• 44:15David Imel?

  This is the like red, no, no, no. This is like registering interest through the My Nintendo Store to preorder.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Oh, well, that's something.

• 44:21David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 44:22David Imel?

  Um, Andrew, I had a question for you about this, that you might know more than me about.

• 44:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Doubt it, but let's go.

• 44:28David Imel?

  My question is, like immediately after the, uh, announcement video, you were able to sign up for preordering it through the My Nintendo Store thing?

• 44:39Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 44:40David Imel?

  But it was sign up for interest, and then there was that whole thing where like you could, uh, if you had 50 hours of playtime and you had one year of Nintendo Switch Online, you would be able to preorder.

• 44:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I thought there was like a sign up for the pre preorder. Like it almost feels like the like Capital One early ticket thing.

• 44:59David Imel?

  Well, what was, yeah, what was gonna happen was that you were gonna be able to, those people were gonna be able to preorder a day before everybody else on My Nintendo Store, and then they stopped preorders in the US altogether and pushed them to tomorrow. So my question is, is that whole thing just?

• 45:15Andrew Manganelli?

  That's the last I heard of it. I haven't seen anything about that. I'm not like, You know, refreshing every day, but I have not heard anything about that.

• 45:22David Imel?

  Cause I haven't gotten anything in my email that's like pre-ordered.

• 45:25Andrew Manganelli?

  No, I didn't see anything on the Switch subreddit. I very well could have missed it. I like every couple of days go on there and just kind of skim through everything to see what's going on. But uh, yeah, I don't know if they ever got to do anything with that because of all the delays.

• 45:38David Imel?

  Interesting, interesting. Uh, and then you had one more thing here?

• 45:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, we have a couple more.

• 45:44David Imel?

  Well, you've.

• 45:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, that's if you're interested in trading in, I was just reading that I thought was interesting. If you have like the OG Switch one, apparently they're super popular in the modding community. Cause they're like the only one you can mod.

• 45:55David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:56Andrew Manganelli?

  I've saw people on there selling them for like a few hundred bucks.

• 45:58David Imel?

  Oh, wow.

• 45:59Andrew Manganelli?

  If you need a different way to make some money for Switch two, that could be a way.

• 46:03David Imel?

  I think like the modding thing only works if you hadn't up like updated the software past a certain.

• 46:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Could be, I'm not totally sure. I just thought it was.

• 46:11Speaker 04

  What if I just use the money to short GameStop instead?

• 46:15David Imel?

  Guaranteed.

• 46:16Andrew Manganelli?

  This is not financial advice.

• 46:20David Imel?

  Alright.

• 46:21Andrew Manganelli?

  But uh, speaking of financial advice, Google could probably use some. I know, it's terrible.

• 46:27David Imel?

  I'm available, Google.

• 46:27Andrew Manganelli?

  We, we got an antitrust update in the US versus Google case.

• 46:32David Imel?

  And what is that?

• 46:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, so we all know that the judge found Google to be a monopoly.

• 46:38David Imel?

  Yep.

• 46:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, and they're in the process of figuring out how the US government's going to fix it. So the judge during this trial said they're asking for three different things. One is to prevent Google from striking deals for Prime search engine placement. Um, referenced how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually.

• 46:55David Imel?

  Amazon has their own search engine?

• 46:58Andrew Manganelli?

  I missed it.

• 46:59David Imel?

  No, you just said Prime search engine placement.

• 47:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 47:02Speaker 04

  Oh, you very much confused me.

• 47:04Andrew Manganelli?

  I was like, wait, what?

• 47:06David Imel?

  Thought maybe.

• 47:06Andrew Manganelli?

  But yeah, we, I mean, we've talked about how much Google pays Apple.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:11Andrew Manganelli?

  To be that. They want Google to divest Chrome. The judge said it's the starting point of 35% of all user queries and has over 4 billion users.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:22Andrew Manganelli?

  And then they also would like to require Google to license its search data to competitors that would want it. So obviously they still make money through that, through the licensing fee, but obviously Google does. Google wants that information for themselves. Monetarily, it's more important to them because they get to do things other people don't get to do. Even though they could make a ton of money off of it.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:44Andrew Manganelli?

  So Google's pushing back to almost everything they said above. However, they did kind of agree with parts of the striking deals and not being like a exclusive default search engine, which is, but the DOJ is like, cool, you can kind of agree with us on that, but you already have created such a like impossible lead over through these like monopolistic tactics. That like, I think we need to do this a little more to make up for an insurmountable.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:18Andrew Manganelli?

  This place that you're in right now.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  This is the interesting part to me, which is always like, okay. Google's established this lead and whatever you think about how they got the lead or whatever, now they are like the search engine that people choose. And Google still continues to pay Apple $20 billion a year to be the default search engine in Safari. What if they didn't? Would, what would Apple do?

• 48:43David Imel?

  I think the concern is that Apple would just turn on their own search engine they've had ready for a very long time.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  I think that's a possibility, but I don't know that, like, is Google really think that that's what's gonna happen? I don't, I just don't know that people would, well, like, would iPhone users be cool with, oh, I just like typed in the search box to Google something and it's just all this other search engine came up for some reason.

• 49:05David Imel?

  I don't think they'd care.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Really?

• 49:07David Imel?

  I really don't.

• 49:08Speaker 01

  I think there'd be a lot of memes if it was Bing tomorrow, like, how many people would just be like, why? I guess Bing, to be fair, looks a lot like Google.

• 49:16David Imel?

  I think, I think Bing has a lot of negative connotations for everybody at this point. So I kind of feel like maybe they'd change it from there.

• 49:24Andrew Manganelli?

  I think the biggest thing is if we're talking just like. Average person who has a phone, how many of them would know how to change the defaults?

• 49:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 49:32Andrew Manganelli?

  They might literally be stuck in whatever that, and that's hundreds of millions of people.

• 49:37David Imel?

  And I just don't think a lot of people care.

• 49:39Speaker 04

  I don't know, because a lot of people still buy Microsoft computers and they open up Edge to download Chrome.

• 49:45Andrew Manganelli?

  There's also a lot of people who have Microsoft computers and just use Edge because it's there and Bing is the default and they have no idea.

• 49:52David Imel?

  But Chrome is the most popular browser.

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:54Andrew Manganelli?

  It is.

• 49:54David Imel?

  It's not the default on any computer other than Chromebooks. Where it is the OS.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  So people do like seek out Chrome and seek out Google.

• 50:02David Imel?

  That is true.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  So I just feel like if Google stopped paying Apple tomorrow, obviously, Apple could spin up a search engine and would have to announce it and explain that at some point and they could launch it and do a whole thing. But I just wonder, like, would people?

• 50:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Well.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  It would, it would, I think it would, my point is, I think it would continue to be Google for quite a while.

• 50:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Sure, but I think it's also the fact that Google's paying them $20 billion a year proves how important that defaultness is.

• 50:27David Imel?

  Well, Google's an ads business, so.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  Why would they want to not pay 20 billion to find out? You know, like, I'd rather just pay 20 billion.

• 50:35Andrew Manganelli?

  That's how important it is.

• 50:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:36Andrew Manganelli?

  They're tossing 20 billion a year.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  How much has a 20 billion been negotiated where it was like, give us 100 billion and Google's like, no, we'll give you 20 billion.

• 50:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  All right.

• 50:45David Imel?

  There's also, I think it's, it's more important for them to show more revenue than it is for them to show more profits necessarily. And if they're getting more revenue, more and more revenue because more and more people are using Google Search. If that dropped by even 20%, all of a sudden, like, Google Search has dropped by 20% looks terrible in their stock tanks.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:06David Imel?

  It's just a lot of nuanced stuff.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  That's the question.

• 51:10David Imel?

  I think by a lot, honestly. My mom would not go to Google.com on her iPhone.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  But if they, but if they open up search on the iPhone after Google stops paying, what would, what does Apple do? Do they just leave it at Google?

• 51:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Who knows?

• 51:23Speaker 01

  I think they just leave it at Google.

• 51:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Something with like the options of doing it in the settings, which most people never find.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Or they take money from someone else? I don't know.

• 51:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 51:31David Imel?

  I do think that Apple has an incentive to keep it on Google because Google is still the best experience right now.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:38David Imel?

  Compared, compared to Bing.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:41David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 51:42Andrew Manganelli?

  I feel like they clearly are willing to do something else, though, because they're getting paid to do it.

• 51:47David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. I bet Apple has like What they would actually do. A fully fledged, really good product that is just ready to go. That's gotta be.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  That they just don't think would make more than 20 billion dollars.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:58Speaker 04

  Therefore, let's just take the money from Google.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Into the complexities of running an ads business.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  With privacy way more at the forefront in their eyes.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Because that's what a search engine is. It's an ads business. So we think, so we think Apple has the ability to launch a full-fledged search product tomorrow. Yes. But doesn't do it now because taking 20 billion from Google and just keeping it at Google is fine. I think that to them, that's less complicated than like getting into the advertising business. And they could do it and they could make it, probably make a lot of money, but it, the, like you said, like the security stuff and the, the data privacy.

• 52:37Speaker 04

  I feel like if the government just told Apple, you can no longer have Google be the default, they would just make like a super private browser.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  I don't think it would be.

• 52:45Speaker 04

  We're not dealing with this at all.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  I don't think they would tell them, Google can't be the default. It would be, Google can't pay you to be the exclusive.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  Well, either way, I just mean like, Apple, I don't think would wanna be bothered with any of this.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Well, also think about the antitrust potential of Apple having their own browser that is the default. Because they would definitely come after Apple and be like, you can't do that.

• 53:06Speaker 04

  Well, not if they're not doing any kind of like advertising monopolistic things.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, right now, Android.

• 53:11Speaker 04

  They wouldn't do an advertising business.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, Android phones, Chrome is the default, Google's the default search engine. Yeah. And that obviously is a big point of contention with Chrome, but let's say Safari is the default and Apple Search is the default search engine. And they're not the biggest search provider, so they can't really have a monopoly argument yet. Is that fine for now, I guess? It seems like that'd be fine. I just don't, I don't know. It seems hard to believe that Apple could launch a new business today that is that massive. That threatens their biggest competitor, but doesn't do it. Well, you know, the US broke up Microsoft because they were monopolizing search engines with Internet Explorer.

• 53:53Speaker 04

  I could totally see Tim Cook getting on stage and being like, you know, never explaining the Google.

• 53:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Chrome thing, but just being like, we have this new browser, super private on your phone, doesn't go anywhere. And they're just like, we're just not gonna deal with this.

• 54:05David Imel?

  Just search engine. It can be the same browser, but just like the search engine, we've built a search engine.

• 54:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Or like, get around all this.

• 54:10David Imel?

  It could be under, I almost picture it being under Apple intelligence of being like, yeah, we've got Siri. So if you want to search for stuff, there's Siri search. Yeah. And it's super private and, and no one can sell you ads based on what you search, et cetera, et cetera. Wouldn't want any of those guys collecting data on you, would you?

• 54:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Exactly.

• 54:26David Imel?

  Use Safari.

• 54:27Andrew Manganelli?

  True. The rest of this is pretty much about data. Satya Nadella testified during this. I don't know why I think that's so funny that he's like, the only way to build a great search engine was, is with unobtainable amounts of search data and Google's made sure no one else has that besides themselves, which no shit, the CEO of Microsoft is like, yes, please let me buy that data.

• 54:48David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 54:49Andrew Manganelli?

  And then what's also funny is kind of related to Microsoft is

• 54:52David Imel?

  I hate it.

• 54:53Andrew Manganelli?

  During the trial, the head of product from OpenAI mentioned that they would be interested in purchasing Chrome if it were to go on sale. Which now is very funny because is their boss not in the room with them? Who makes?

• 55:05David Imel?

  Yeah, Satya. Satya's like, you'd what? You would what? It's a shame if something happened to our investment.

• 55:13Andrew Manganelli?

  I just thought that was so funny. And also, please, God, no OpenAI. Don't buy Chrome.

• 55:18David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of antitrust suits.

• 55:23David Imel?

  Another one.

• 55:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's keep the good times going.

• 55:26David Imel?

  Apple and Meta just got hit with really big DMA antitrust fines. If you remember, the European Union basically went after Apple and Meta and were basically like, you cannot do these things. The big thing for Apple was third-party app stores was a major thing. Where Apple eventually complied, but they did so in the most malicious compliance way possible. To the point where it basically penalized you a ton if you were willing to put your app on a third-party app store in the European Union. And made it like worse for most people. So, uh, the EU is not happy about that malicious compliance.

• 56:05David Imel?

  And they fined Apple $570 million for violating the DMA, which is crazy. Uh, and it says that has 60 days to basically remedy this. So that's, that's not too good for Apple. We'll see what's, what happens there. They're probably going to have to get rid of all of that jargon and just fully open it up without any consequences. Uh, it'll be interesting to see if Apple actually complies with that. The EU is actually also, uh, not happy with Meta for a very similar reason. It was charging Facebook and Instagram users to either pay a subscription fee to like, get rid of all of the ads that were being shown there, or they could use their personal data,

• 56:48David Imel?

  um, to kind of like have ad-supported versions on the platform. And Meta's solution was to, in the EU, was to allow free users to see fewer unskippable full-screen ads. Uh, but the EU is not too happy about that either. So, both of them got hit with huge fines. Apple's fine was 570 million. Meta's fine was about half that, but they could basically be continue, they could continue to get fined fairly regularly unless they fix these issues within 60 days.

• 57:18Andrew Manganelli?

  It's crazy to think 570 million is a gigantic fine, yet we just talked about them paying about 30 times that a year to Google.

• 57:26David Imel?

  20 billion to Google. Yeah, it doesn't feel like such a big fine. That's crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, most of these companies will take the fines if it means they're making more money by doing the thing they're not supposed to do. That's just generally how it works, because the fines are just not big enough to actually be real deterrents.

• 57:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:44David Imel?

  Uh, this seems quite a bit bigger. 570 million that they have to pay right now. They're gonna appeal it, obviously. But that seems like a, a bigger deterrent than they usually get hit with, so we'll see how that plays out.

• 57:56Andrew Manganelli?

  This is like when you see like a Ferrari parked in like a do not park thing, and it just has like four tickets on a dash. Like, yeah, they don't care.

• 58:02David Imel?

  I don't care. It's more convenient for me to be parked illegally. Yeah, wow. Um, and then last little thing about companies giving large sums of money to other companies. It came out that Google pays an enormous amount of money to Samsung to have Gemini pre-installed on its phones.

• 58:19Andrew Manganelli?

  This does not shock me at all.

• 58:21David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:22Andrew Manganelli?

  They seem to be very close partners in a lot of ways.

• 58:27David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 58:27Andrew Manganelli?

  So, yeah.

• 58:27David Imel?

  Yeah, I mean, at the Pixel event, they literally showed Gemini on the Galaxy S24 Ultra.

• 58:33Andrew Manganelli?

  At Google I/O, they regularly demo exclusive features.

• 58:37David Imel?

  Maybe it was I/O.

• 58:38Andrew Manganelli?

  On Samsung phones.

• 58:39David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 58:40Andrew Manganelli?

  They'll probably do it again this year.

• 58:41David Imel?

  We knew that they had a very close partnership, but it seems like it's been getting closer and closer. And now we have actual evidence that they've been paying them a lot of money. So apparently, Google has been paying Samsung an enormous amount of money since January monthly to have Gemini pre-installed on Samsung's phones. So that would probably be around the announcement of the S25 series. It also gives Samsung a percentage of revenue earned from advertisers in the Gemini app. I have never seen an ad in the Gemini app.

• 59:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Me neither.

• 59:10David Imel?

  So I'm not really sure what that means. Yeah, it could be a future thing. It could be a future thing. But the judge actually ruled that this violates antitrust law and is hearing testimony to figure out what Google will have to do to remedy the behavior. So Google's not in the best situation right now.

• 59:27Andrew Manganelli?

  This coming out in the middle of this antitrust thing happening feels like the start of the search engine. They're just doing it with AI instead.

• 59:35David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  You know what I just thought of?

• 59:36David Imel?

  What?

• 59:37Speaker 01

  OpenAI has been working on this search product. Maybe if Google wasn't paying.

• 59:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Careful, Markes, careful.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Maybe if Google buys. If Google wasn't paying Samsung, Samsung would just like switch it to OpenAI's product.

• 59:48Andrew Manganelli?

  This says they had offers from OpenAI and Microsoft as well.

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, so maybe, maybe in a world today where Google stops paying Apple to be the default search engine in Safari, OpenAI is like.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  I want that deal. I want to be the search.

• 1:00:03David Imel?

  We know what's funny is like Safari kind of got dumber when they added, not Safari. Siri, sorry. Siri kind of got dumber when they added the OpenAI integration.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  ChatGPT, yeah.

• 1:00:14David Imel?

  ChatGPT integration. There's been like multiple cases that people post online of like, "Hey Siri, what day of the week is it?" And it'll be like, "Do you want me to ask ChatGPT for that?"

• 1:00:24Andrew Manganelli?

  It's literally the Bixby April Fools video we did where it's like, "It can't answer it. I'm literally gonna ask someone else."

• 1:00:30David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  We were ahead of our time with that joke.

• 1:00:33Andrew Manganelli?

  We were.

• 1:00:33David Imel?

  Yeah, so.

• 1:00:35Andrew Manganelli?

  My, I just wanna say, my chat GPT experience lately, it's few and far between, and it has been miserable every time.

• 1:00:43Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:00:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Every time it's like, hey, can you do this thing? And I'll do it, do it, do it. And then I'll be like, can you do one more? That's against our policy. Why is it against your policy? For this reason. Cool. Do it without that reason. That is against our policy. Perfect example, I was like, trying to explain to Tim a thumbnail I wanted to make. And it was just this idea of typing on a keyboard and the keys are flying all over the place.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:04Andrew Manganelli?

  So it did a pretty good job at creating that. And then I said, can you make this in, look like a YouTube thumbnail? And it throws the YouTube logo on and some text that looks terrible. I said, can you please take that off and change the text to this? And then first it says, you've run out of requests for today, cuz I don't have Pro. Please come back in 24 hours. That was Friday. I come back Monday. I ask it to remove it. It says, uh, you've run out of requests. And it's had to do that three times. I said, that was three days ago. I'm past the time limit. It said, you're right. And then it, and then it said, let me try to do that generating image. And it said, this is against our policy. So I said, why? And it said, there was a logo involved in it and they can't do anything with logos. So I said, you put the logo in.

• 1:01:48Andrew Manganelli?

  In fact, I'm asking you to take it out. Said, whoa, you're right. I did, I did put that in and you are just asking to put that, take it out. What should I, let me get a, get on with that. And then it says, generate image. Says, that is against our policy. And then I just gave up. I'm like, not doing this anymore. So yeah, that was my last chat GPT experience.

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:02:07Andrew Manganelli?

  It's terrible.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  That sounds horrible.

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  If only you had a Samsung phone that you could just.

• 1:02:12Andrew Manganelli?

  If only I had damage playground.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  Then you can make a cartoon. All right. Yeah, okay. Well, we, we will take another quick break. We do have, of course, our trademarked. Have we trademarked?

• 1:02:25Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 1:02:25Speaker 01

  Our tra, we're our.

• 1:02:26Andrew Manganelli?

  I mean, just kidding.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  We are.

• 1:02:28Andrew Manganelli?

  Don't look.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  Our patent pending final segment, uh, last of the month called Crown or Clown.

• 1:02:33Andrew Manganelli?

  And clown.

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  Crown and clown. So, uh, we're gonna get to that after the break. But of course, we should do one more round of trivia.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Okay, trivia.

• 1:02:45David Imel?

  Trivia.

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  Question two. Twitter announced a public verification system in what year? Asterisk. It was discontinued that same year because they received too many requests.

• 1:02:57David Imel?

  Public.

• 1:02:57Speaker 01

  Oh, but when did they launch it? The public one?

• 1:03:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, like you can request it publicly?

• 1:03:03David Imel?

  Just being able to request or like, oh.

• 1:03:06Speaker 04

  Is that where there's like a verified account and you had to like, what happened?

• 1:03:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Like, I think it was in the setting.

• 1:03:10David Imel?

  They got too many people requesting.

• 1:03:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was like a form.

• 1:03:13David Imel?

  We don't have that many employees.

• 1:03:14Andrew Manganelli?

  In the settings, there was like a form you could fill out.

• 1:03:16David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 1:03:18David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:18Speaker 04

  I didn't know about that.

• 1:03:20David Imel?

  I was verified after it shut down somehow.

• 1:03:22Speaker 04

  Oh, nice.

• 1:03:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, really?

• 1:03:24David Imel?

  Yeah, because there was still a, this person's impersonating me like form. And I filled that out and they were like, oh, we're just going to verify it.

• 1:03:32Speaker 04

  I got verified like two weeks before they made it paid. And I was like, well, there goes that.

• 1:03:38David Imel?

  Oh, really?

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  And then everyone was like, look at this loser. Check.

• 1:03:43David Imel?

  That's funny.

• 1:03:44Andrew Manganelli?

  And then you had to pay to put it.

• 1:03:45Speaker 04

  Oh, no, I did not pay. They just removed it.

• 1:03:47David Imel?

  No, yeah.

• 1:03:49Speaker 01

  All right. All right, well, we'll think about it. Answers at the end. We'll be right back.

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

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• 1:05:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Welcome back. We are doing Crown and Clown, and I think I'll go first because I have the two most boring ones.

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  Can we remind the, I was gonna say the users?

• 1:06:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I guess I will. At the end of every month, we do a crown, which is something we thought was the best thing that happened this month, and a clown, which is something we thought was the dumbest thing that happened this month. We try really hard to keep it within the month. We'll see how we go. We need to be a little more streamlined of this, and we're working on it, which probably means we won't be. But

• 1:06:32Speaker 04

  Nice. One hour later.

• 1:06:33Andrew Manganelli?

  I will pitch, I think the crown of April is the Nintendo Switch.

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

  That's what I was gonna say.

• 1:06:40Andrew Manganelli?

  It's really hard not to say it. As much as people gave it crap for pricing, and there's been some delays, I still really think they delivered on the majority of the things.

• 1:06:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, my argument is

• 1:06:52Andrew Manganelli?

  It's the thing I'm the most excited about.

• 1:06:53Speaker 04

  Have they? Because it's not even out yet. What if it's just a break?

• 1:06:56David Imel?

  I mean, we will see.

• 1:06:58Speaker 01

  Announced.

• 1:06:58Andrew Manganelli?

  It's always been for June. It actually hasn't been delayed on delivering yet.

• 1:07:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Yet.

• 1:07:04Speaker 04

  No, no, I know. But I mean, like, what if we get it and it sucks? Well, okay.

• 1:07:08Andrew Manganelli?

  They could still screw up the, because they said they fixed the stick drift, but it's not hall effect. So I don't know if I fully believe them on that. But a lot of the other things were good minus pricing and some of the game card keys. But also like, and I didn't know this, apparently a lot of Xbox and PlayStation games have been doing this for a long time. Without the physical key, it's just a download code inside the box. So this is a better version of that. I totally agree because you can sell them and trade them and whatever later. So I think they did a good job.

• 1:07:37David Imel?

  Digital Foundry did a very in-depth thing about the Switch 2 that they put out two days ago. And I would recommend going to look at that. They have a bunch of videos and also write-ups about it.

• 1:07:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow, that is a long article.

• 1:07:49David Imel?

  It's super in-depth and they have a bunch of, they have videos for like every portion of it.

• 1:07:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Is it generally?

• 1:07:54David Imel?

  It's generally quite positive. Yeah, they're saying the performance is like way better than they expected and yeah, so.

• 1:08:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Interesting.

• 1:08:01David Imel?

  It's generally very positive.

• 1:08:02Speaker 04

  All right, David, what's your crown?

• 1:08:04David Imel?

  Well, it was supposed to be Switch 2.

• 1:08:05Andrew Manganelli?

  I mean, it still can be Switch 2 because we have to agree anyways.

• 1:08:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, we have to agree. So you could just double up if you want.

• 1:08:10David Imel?

  I'm not saying it's good because I don't know because I've never even touched it.

• 1:08:13Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:08:14David Imel?

  But I do think it is.

• 1:08:16Speaker 04

  Only one person in this room has touched it.

• 1:08:19David Imel?

  I have touched it.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  Thanks for clarifying.

• 1:08:23David Imel?

  What other positive things have happened this month?

• 1:08:25Andrew Manganelli?

  Nothing, literally nothing.

• 1:08:26David Imel?

  I have something.

• 1:08:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, what's yours?

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  Okay, well, I have two. One of them is not really a thing. One of them was a Volvo EX90, which we reviewed this month, but it's not, it didn't come out this month. So it's probably not going to win.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  But I just find something else, nice car. In the month of April.

• 1:08:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Speaker 01

  Scientists at Zhejiang University and the University of Cambridge built much, much smaller individual pixels on an LED display. Record-breaking amount, actually. They achieved the smallest pixels ever at 90 nanometers wide.

• 1:09:03Andrew Manganelli?

  You wouldn't know about this.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  And it's hard to explain how small 90 nanometers is, but they've been working on this over and over again and shrinking down and down the pixels over and over. But this 90 nanometer wide pixel achieved a pixel density of 127,000 pixels per inch, which is pretty sick.

• 1:09:22David Imel?

  Virus sized.

• 1:09:23Speaker 01

  Obviously.

• 1:09:24Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  It makes oil paintings look pixelated is how they described it. Now, obviously, there's a lot. There's a lot of challenges that come from having pixels that small, from, you know, drivers.

• 1:09:37David Imel?

  Driving it, yeah.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  Brightness to whatever, all these other things. But I just want to emphasize how small those individual pixels are. If a human hair was a skyscraper, a 90 nanometer object would be a single floor tile.

• 1:09:52Speaker 04

  Floor tile, not floor.

• 1:09:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Thickness?

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  A floor tile, yeah.

• 1:09:55Andrew Manganelli?

  But like, is the floor tile standing up?

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  Human hair sideways skyscraper.

• 1:10:00David Imel?

  Well, how, what, what length of human hair?

• 1:10:03Speaker 01

  It's the width of the human hair.

• 1:10:05David Imel?

  The width of the human hair.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  The width of a human hair is a skyscraper.

• 1:10:09David Imel?

  Holy crap.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  Another way of looking at it, if a red blood cell were a soccer ball, a single pixel would be a grain of sand.

• 1:10:18Andrew Manganelli?

  That one seems not as crazy.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. But a red blood cell, you have to know how small a red blood cell is.

• 1:10:23David Imel?

  Right, because I see blood, but I don't know how big this.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Red blood cells are very small compared to a single hair.

• 1:10:29David Imel?

  A pool, yeah, I don't know.

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  So anyway, yeah, 127,000 pixel wrench display is my crown of the month.

• 1:10:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Hold on, I just want to say.

• 1:10:38Andrew Manganelli?

  You guys said it can't be the Switch 2 because I haven't seen it yet, and then you bring out this like, science breaking, lab only.

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  You can see it.

• 1:10:46Andrew Manganelli?

  No, no, I'm saying you guys said it to me.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  No, no, no, I don't think that's a, I don't think the rule has to be you have to have seen it. Because we've had previous crowns that are things we haven't seen.

• 1:10:53Speaker 04

  I'm, I agree.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:55Speaker 04

  I never said you had to have seen it. I said it had to be out.

• 1:10:58Andrew Manganelli?

  This is in a lab.

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's in a lab.

• 1:11:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, it includes.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  One of them exists.

• 1:11:04Speaker 04

  Just one. I see your point, Andrew, and I'm choosing to ignore it.

• 1:11:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Somehow, someone can get us access to making a video on that, though.

• 1:11:12David Imel?

  That would be sick.

• 1:11:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Just saying, I'm pretty sure we would do that.

• 1:11:15David Imel?

  Microscopes.

• 1:11:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, electron microscopes.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  I'll drop a link in the, in the Slack so you guys can look at this thing, because it's pretty.

• 1:11:22Andrew Manganelli?

  That's how those work, right?

• 1:11:23David Imel?

  The ultimate problems.

• 1:11:24Speaker 01

  Speaking of Slack, I'm gonna tell you what Ellis's crown is for the month. He discovered that there are now HDR emojis in Slack.

• 1:11:33David Imel?

  This isn't, this is, this is not a crown, my friend.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  He thinks it's a crown?

• 1:11:37David Imel?

  It is not.

• 1:11:38Andrew Manganelli?

  HDR emojis?

• 1:11:39David Imel?

  It looks horrible.

• 1:11:40Speaker 01

  If you're scrolling through on Slack, you'll see a regular emoji, and then you'll see a very bright spot on your screen, which is the other one.

• 1:11:51David Imel?

  It looks broken. Wait, can you post it?

• 1:11:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm gonna put it in Slack.

• 1:11:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, can you please post that?

• 1:11:55Speaker 04

  It's in the waveform.

• 1:11:56David Imel?

  It just looks broken. Jesus. It's like glowing on yours.

• 1:12:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I think it's because I'm in dark mode on Slack.

• 1:12:02David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  You're scrolling and just.

• 1:12:05Andrew Manganelli?

  I feel like I'm blinking and seeing it in my.

• 1:12:08David Imel?

  It's definitely SDR on my computer, which I'm happy about.

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, so that is.

• 1:12:12David Imel?

  Is Alex saying that he likes scrolling through Instagram under his, under his blanket? And just getting blinded randomly in the middle of the.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  Is this his crown?

• 1:12:19Speaker 04

  This is his crown.

• 1:12:19David Imel?

  That's not I said.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  That's what I said.

• 1:12:22Speaker 04

  He thinks this is awesome.

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  Okay, well, I don't. I think this, I think this should be eligible for the clown. Does he have a clown separately?

• 1:12:32Speaker 04

  His clown is.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  It's gonna be something amazing.

• 1:12:33Speaker 04

  No, it's basically Apple getting dinged for the, uh, removing the Apple intelligence coming soon part.

• 1:12:40Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:12:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a clown.

• 1:12:42Speaker 04

  It's hard to. He said that's his clown.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  That's a good thing.

• 1:12:45Speaker 04

  Well, that they had it up in the first place.

• 1:12:47Speaker 01

  Okay, interesting.

• 1:12:49David Imel?

  I asked Gemini, what are the best things that happened in consumer technology in April 2025? And it said the Apple M4 chip launched, which is not, it did not launch this month.

• 1:12:58Andrew Manganelli?

  The Bard upgrade.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  Bard upgrade.

• 1:13:02David Imel?

  That might be April of like three years ago.

• 1:13:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Gemini literally called itself its old, you're asking Gemini, which is what Bard was. And it said.

• 1:13:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:12Andrew Manganelli?

  The Bard AI platform received an update integrating the more advanced Gemini 2.0 model.

• 1:13:18David Imel?

  AI travel planning. Wow, this is horrible. None of these are true. Tick.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:13:24David Imel?

  I love AI.

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  At this point for crown, we're reduced to the Switch 2.

• 1:13:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Or the groundbreaking new technology.

• 1:13:33Speaker 01

  27,000 pixel per inch display or the HDR emoji.

• 1:13:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Imagine the HDR emoji on.

• 1:13:39Speaker 01

  On that display?

• 1:13:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Woo.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  Crisp, crisp.

• 1:13:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Cooked, eyes cooked.

• 1:13:43David Imel?

  Eyes cooked.

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  Vectors, I'd say all kinds of vectors.

• 1:13:46David Imel?

  Beats cables.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  That was one of those mid things that happened that we forgot about within 30 seconds of it happening.

• 1:13:52David Imel?

  But I thought you said it was the biggest story of the year.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  Oh, I did say that, didn't I? I was lying.

• 1:13:59David Imel?

  Damn.

• 1:14:00Speaker 04

  Elephant.

• 1:14:01David Imel?

  I thought you were serious.

• 1:14:02Andrew Manganelli?

  I mean, it's hard to vote against. I feel like every time I just give up on my answer, but.

• 1:14:06David Imel?

  How about?

• 1:14:07Andrew Manganelli?

  It is a pretty cool screen. I have a question.

• 1:14:09David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:14:10Andrew Manganelli?

  All those pictures look like they were green pixels only. Can the pixels change colors?

• 1:14:15Speaker 04

  Don't worry about it.

• 1:14:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, if it's green only.

• 1:14:18David Imel?

  What do you mean green only?

• 1:14:19Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know.

• 1:14:20David Imel?

  Are they green? How about?

• 1:14:23David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, okay. Never mind. David was looking at something else.

• 1:14:26David Imel?

  What about Sam Altman potentially buying his own company?

• 1:14:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Clown.

• 1:14:30Speaker 04

  You already said yours. Yours is the switch.

• 1:14:32David Imel?

  Yeah, it's the switch two.

• 1:14:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay. I think it's the switch two.

• 1:14:35David Imel?

  Come on.

• 1:14:36Speaker 04

  It's probably.

• 1:14:36David Imel?

  It's like the biggest, it's the most talked about thing this month.

• 1:14:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Which.

• 1:14:41Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:14:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Doesn't necessarily mean.

• 1:14:43David Imel?

  That isn't negative. Yeah.

• 1:14:45Andrew Manganelli?

  There was a lot of negative stuff about it, but I think some of it was blown out of proportion.

• 1:14:49David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:49Andrew Manganelli?

  And some of it's totally reasonable criticism.

• 1:14:51Speaker 04

  All right, I'll fold. I'll go, I'll go, I'll go switch to.

• 1:14:54David Imel?

  Let's go.

• 1:14:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's go.

• 1:14:55Speaker 04

  What is the, what is the clown then? I.

• 1:14:57David Imel?

  The clown.

• 1:14:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Tariffs. Reciprocal tariffs. They came out the same day, actually. The clown and the clown came out the same day.

• 1:15:04Speaker 04

  That's a good point.

• 1:15:05David Imel?

  I was gonna go Blue Origin PR stunt.

• 1:15:08Speaker 04

  Oh, yes.

• 1:15:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Never mind. I lose.

• 1:15:10David Imel?

  Actually, I think that's it.

• 1:15:12Speaker 04

  I think that's it.

• 1:15:13David Imel?

  That was my clown.

• 1:15:14Speaker 04

  What about, um, 23andMe selling their data?

• 1:15:18Andrew Manganelli?

  They sold it?

• 1:15:19Speaker 04

  Going bankrupt.

• 1:15:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Has it happened yet? Or did it get sold? That was not a clown yet.

• 1:15:23Speaker 04

  Not yet.

• 1:15:24Andrew Manganelli?

  But that was last month.

• 1:15:25David Imel?

  I know, but remember last month we were like, April clown?

• 1:15:28Andrew Manganelli?

  It's like the buyer could be horrible, but it.

• 1:15:30David Imel?

  Yeah, they haven't sold yet.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  Okay, cool. Perfect. So, yeah.

• 1:15:33David Imel?

  I think Blue Origin is the best one.

• 1:15:35Andrew Manganelli?

  I think Adam's got one, but it's a hard one to top.

• 1:15:38Speaker 04

  Okay, so my clown then is something that I just realized yesterday, which is that my phone number has been tied up in iMessage for like two months now, since I switched to the Pixel.

• 1:15:50David Imel?

  So you.

• 1:15:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  Missed a thousand messages.

• 1:15:53Speaker 04

  Ellis texted me and on Slack, he's like, yo, I texted you. And I'm like, no, you didn't. And then I saw it pop up on the messages app in my computer. And then when I opened that up, there was like 30 missed messages. And I was like, how is this still a problem? How are we still dealing with this?

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  This is along the lines of that tech question I had maybe two or three weeks ago, which is like the RCS thing not working on my phone. Yeah. Which I think on the iPhone, you have to turn off.

• 1:16:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did.

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  You do.

• 1:16:16Speaker 04

  I didn't do it on my laptop, which is a separate thing. And that's why it all went to my laptop.

• 1:16:22Speaker 01

  Why I still carry two phones.

• 1:16:22Speaker 04

  Did you figure it out?

• 1:16:23Speaker 01

  I haven't figured it out, but it has gradually started working with more and more threads.

• 1:16:29Speaker 04

  I've seen a lot of suggestions of similar issues. I know you said you tried some of them, but there were people, some of them were like.

• 1:16:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I tried them.

• 1:16:37Speaker 04

  You had to like sign out and then like restart your phone and then all this.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  Yep. No, I tried. I went through the comments. I tried basically everything everyone was suggesting and nothing was working. And then a couple of days later, I tried an RCS message to someone I usually RCS message and it worked. And I was like, oh, oh RCS. And then I tried another thread and it's like SMS.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  Adam, that's crazy because like Ellis and Brandon must also have had their iMessage things like mess up because they never respond to me either.

• 1:17:05Speaker 04

  So Brandon was one of the people that I had gotten a message from him like three weeks ago. And then I had to reply like, sorry, can, can you resend all this? Because it's stuck on my computer now.

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:17:17Speaker 04

  Very annoying.

• 1:17:18Speaker 01

  I didn't text you, so.

• 1:17:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, you never text me.

• 1:17:20Speaker 01

  I just tried Telegram, you know, which is terrible. Clown.

• 1:17:24Speaker 04

  That's the clown. That's the true clown.

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  That's the world.

• 1:17:27Speaker 04

  David's still using Telegram.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  Problems that you were both having, you know? All I do is get a bunch of fake spam messages every day. So I like it that way.

• 1:17:37Speaker 04

  Are we in agreement? Crown is switched to clown is Blue Origin?

• 1:17:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think that's, yeah, that's April 2025 right there.

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  That's it. Yeah.

• 1:17:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:46Speaker 04

  There's April. Oh, that's pretty, we should do a year long calendar.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  End of the year.

• 1:17:50Speaker 04

  At the end of the year, that's a calendar and it has.

• 1:17:53Speaker 01

  Crown and clown from every month. Collect them all.

• 1:17:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Gotta collect them all. June is probably also gonna be switched to.

• 1:18:00Speaker 04

  Switch to two.

• 1:18:01Speaker 01

  Switch to two, the switching. We'll see how June goes. Either way, hey, that's been it. We should do the trivia questions. Oh, yeah.

• 1:18:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, dude. Okay. You didn't even do the wait for it.

• 1:18:15David Imel?

  You did not wait for it.

• 1:18:15Andrew Manganelli?

  127,000 pixels per inch. That's crazy.

• 1:18:18Speaker 04

  Pretty insane.

• 1:18:20David Imel?

  Okay. The sphere in Las Vegas is about to, about to shutter.

• 1:18:23Speaker 04

  Imagine the sphere in Las Vegas at 127,000 PPI.

• 1:18:27David Imel?

  Yeah. In HDR?

• 1:18:29Speaker 04

  No. It would, it would look, the space would look like this slack HDR emoji.

• 1:18:35David Imel?

  Las Vegas looks like an HDR emoji from a plane.

• 1:18:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:38David Imel?

  The rest of the city is kind of dim and there's just a blasting one in the middle. It also has emojis on it, on the sphere.

• 1:18:44Andrew Manganelli?

  That's exactly, that's what it is. It's an HDR emoji.

• 1:18:46David Imel?

  I was in a hotel in Vegas a couple of months ago and I opened my windows in the morning and it was just the giant emoji staring back at me.

• 1:18:56Speaker 04

  All right. So these are all Google services grabbed from the Google graveyard. Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others? Who share your interests?

• 1:19:08David Imel?

  It lasted 11 months.

• 1:19:09Speaker 04

  And it lasted 11 months. A, Grasshopper. B, Streams. C, Polly. Or D, Shoelace?

• 1:19:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, what is it?

• 1:19:21Speaker 04

  A, Grasshopper.

• 1:19:22Andrew Manganelli?

  No, no, what was the question again?

• 1:19:23Speaker 04

  Oh, which of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests?

• 1:19:29Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm so mad that I changed my answer, which means the first one was definitely right.

• 1:19:33David Imel?

  Whenever I do that, I just cross it out so that the world knows that I actually thought the right answer.

• 1:19:37Speaker 04

  Nice. Okay.

• 1:19:38David Imel?

  Okay, we have different answers here.

• 1:19:40Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:19:40David Imel?

  I don't know the answer, so I can guess. I said, uh, Grasshopper.

• 1:19:44Speaker 04

  Grasshopper?

• 1:19:45David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:46Speaker 04

  Incorrect.

• 1:19:47Andrew Manganelli?

  That's what I had at first.

• 1:19:48David Imel?

  Andrew and I both put Shoelace.

• 1:19:49Speaker 04

  You both put Shoelace.

• 1:19:50David Imel?

  Well, I put D. Was that Shoelace?

• 1:19:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:52David Imel?

  It was.

• 1:19:52Speaker 04

  Okay. Yeah, because you go, you gotta lace up your shoes to go do an activity.

• 1:19:56David Imel?

  Well, is that why you thought?

• 1:19:58Speaker 04

  That's why I thought it, right? It's to find new activities. So I'm gonna go do my activity with my friend.

• 1:20:03David Imel?

  I sort of remember this launching, because it was only a couple of years ago, right?

• 1:20:06Speaker 04

  Um, 20, wait, let me find it. One second.

• 1:20:12David Imel?

  Also, what was?

• 1:20:12Speaker 04

  2020, it shut down.

• 1:20:14David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:20:15David Imel?

  Also, what was option A?

• 1:20:17Speaker 04

  Grasshopper. Grasshopper.

• 1:20:18David Imel?

  What was B?

• 1:20:20Speaker 04

  Streams.

• 1:20:20David Imel?

  What was C?

• 1:20:21Speaker 04

  Polly.

• 1:20:22David Imel?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:20:23Andrew Manganelli?

  What was D?

• 1:20:24David Imel?

  Grasshopper is a thing in Google.

• 1:20:27Andrew Manganelli?

  He said they're all things.

• 1:20:28Speaker 04

  Not anymore. They were all things, but now they're all dead.

• 1:20:30David Imel?

  Oh, well, at least he got the point.

• 1:20:31Speaker 04

  All right, question two.

• 1:20:32David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Nothing about this shoelace app screams Google at all.

• 1:20:36Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:20:37David Imel?

  Yeah, it looks like it was made in Canva.

• 1:20:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. No, it literally does.

• 1:20:43Speaker 04

  That's the worst thing you can say.

• 1:20:45David Imel?

  It looks like you made this in Canva.

• 1:20:47Andrew Manganelli?

  This episode sponsored by Kim.

• 1:20:51Andrew Manganelli?

  That would be really funny.

• 1:20:52Speaker 04

  They probably did make it in Canva.

• 1:20:54David Imel?

  Oh, God.

• 1:20:54Speaker 04

  Okay. Twitter announced the public verification system in what year?

• 1:21:00David Imel?

  Public verification.

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  The PV. And then they got flooded with requests and they shut it down that same year.

• 1:21:07David Imel?

  My pen is like not working at all, but.

• 1:21:11David Imel?

  Here, just do this. Yeah, here, right over it.

• 1:21:15Speaker 04

  I'll give you an extra point if you get the month.

• 1:21:18David Imel?

  Ooh.

• 1:21:24Speaker 04

  All right, flip them and read. What do we got?

• 1:21:27David Imel?

  I'm once again guessing.

• 1:21:28Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:21:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I went way later than both of you.

• 1:21:32David Imel?

  Oh, we'll go in order. I guess June 2012.

• 1:21:37Speaker 04

  Incorrect.

• 1:21:37David Imel?

  Are we just closest here or?

• 1:21:39Speaker 04

  Ah, sure, sure. Let's do closest delta.

• 1:21:42David Imel?

  Okay. I did March 2014.

• 1:21:45Speaker 04

  March 2014?

• 1:21:46David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 1:21:47David Imel?

  Wow.

• 1:21:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I did June 2021.

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  June 2021.

• 1:21:53Speaker 04

  Wrong one. Incorrect.

• 1:21:56David Imel?

  I think you were thinking of Elon's verification.

• 1:21:59Andrew Manganelli?

  When did he buy it?

• 1:22:00David Imel?

  2021?

• 1:22:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Was it 2021?

• 1:22:03David Imel?

  Or was it 2022?

• 1:22:04Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought it was very close before he bought it is when they added that form that was like, I am blank, blank, blank, blank.

• 1:22:11David Imel?

  That was a long time.

• 1:22:12Speaker 04

  That's when they brought it back. This is the first time.

• 1:22:15David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:22:16Andrew Manganelli?

  That I was thinking of?

• 1:22:17Speaker 04

  The correct answer was July 2016. So David gets the point.

• 1:22:23David Imel?

  Let's go. 2016. Wow, that's late.

• 1:22:25Speaker 04

  Huh.

• 1:22:25David Imel?

  That is late.

• 1:22:26Andrew Manganelli?

  I knew I was thinking of the second one.

• 1:22:29David Imel?

  I thought I got verified in 2015.

• 1:22:32Andrew Manganelli?

  You probably got verified before the public request.

• 1:22:34Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:22:36David Imel?

  Cool.

• 1:22:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Yep. All right. That was it. Quick update underscore Marques18, Andrew9, David21. David, you can legally drink now.

• 1:22:43David Imel?

  Let's go.

• 1:22:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm older than the oldest YouTube video.

• 1:22:46David Imel?

  That's right. That's right.

• 1:22:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Or not older.

• 1:22:49David Imel?

  Also.

• 1:22:50Andrew Manganelli?

  More points.

• 1:22:50David Imel?

  Yeah, the day this goes live, I'll be 10 years older than.

• 1:22:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Whoa. Oh, yeah. Everyone say happy birthday to David.

• 1:22:57David Imel?

  Woo, happy birthday.

• 1:22:58Andrew Manganelli?

  If you made it this far.

• 1:23:00David Imel?

  If you made it this far, then you know when David's birthday is. Officially dust.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Drop your comments below in between all the which language do you prefer the dub to be comments? We appreciate both of those.

• 1:23:09David Imel?

  Say happy birthday in a different language.

• 1:23:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Do it.

• 1:23:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 1:23:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Feliz cumpleaños.

• 1:23:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, but yeah, we'll be back, of course, in May. That's the next month. May.

• 1:23:20David Imel?

  Wow. Is that true?

• 1:23:21Speaker 01

  May, we already know.

• 1:23:23David Imel?

  What about April 30th? Oh, wait, but they'll not see us until.

• 1:23:26Speaker 01

  Until May. They won't see us.

• 1:23:28David Imel?

  May 2nd.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:23:29David Imel?

  May 3rd.

• 1:23:29Speaker 01

  So we'll see you in May. It's gonna be May, et cetera, et cetera. Appreciate y'all. Thanks for subscribing. Thanks for watching. Thanks for commenting. Catch y'all in the next episode. Peace.

• 1:23:41Andrew Manganelli?

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• 1:23:46Speaker 01

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