Pod Insights Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast Our Favorite YouTube Videos Ever! About this episode This week, Marques, Andrew, and David jump right into all things YouTube! It's the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video upload so everyone takes turns talking about what their favorite videos are before getting into the big antitrust news of the week regarding Google. Then they talk about Nintendo Switch 2 pre-orders and Apple and Meta getting hit some huge fines. After that, it's time to pick the Crown and Clown of the month before getting intro trivia. Enjoy!
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20 years of YouTube Blog
David's favorite video
Marques's favorite video
Andrew's favorite video
Ellis's favorite video
Adam's favorite video
Search Engine episode
Verge - Google's antitrust trial
Verge - Apple and Meta DMA Fines
New Atlas - Record breaking pixel density
Digital Foundry - Nintendo Switch 2 article
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1:32 Andrew Manganelli? One is to prevent Google from striking deals for Prime search engine placement. Referenced how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually.
1:40 David Imel? Amazon has their own search engine?
1:44 Andrew Manganelli? I missed it?
1:45 David Imel? No, you just said Prime search engine placement.
1:47 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
1:48 David Imel? You very much confused me.
1:50 Andrew Manganelli? I thought maybe. But yeah, I mean, we've talked about how much Google pays Apple.
2:00 Speaker 01 What's up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're hosts, I'm Marquez.
2:05 Andrew Manganelli? I'm Andrew.
2:06 Speaker 04 And I'm Nintendo Switch 2.
2:08 Speaker 01 We're gonna keep this big.
2:09 Speaker 04 I don't really know how long we're gonna keep doing this.
2:11 Speaker 01 We might as well. It's early in the SEO, so you know, that might, that might work. Thanks, Transcript. No, in today's episode, we got some updates. Actually, it's a lot of updates to things. Blue Sky, Apple Intelligence, what else? Switch 2 pre-orders are on the list. Multiple antitrust lawsuits, because those are gonna keep getting updated. So the tech move, so the tech world, so, so tech moves fast and lots of updates happen. So we're gonna keep covering them. It's great. Yeah.
2:41 Speaker 01 Hey, but yeah, if that sounds interesting to you, make sure you get subscribed to the Waveform Podcast here on YouTube, because it turns out, a lot of people see these in their homepage and they do watch them and enjoy them, but then they don't subscribe and it would be cool if you did.
2:54 Andrew Manganelli? But if you don't like us, don't subscribe. Cause it'll be really annoying if we pop up making a Nintendo Switch 2 joke in your feed every week.
3:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'm sorry.
3:03 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah. No, it's okay.
3:04 Speaker 04 And we make a lot of inside jokes.
3:05 Andrew Manganelli? We do make a lot of them. You gotta subscribe to figure out what the inside jokes are.
3:10 Speaker 04 It's true. One day, we should do like just a big episode where we just explain all the inside jokes and that's it.
3:15 Speaker 01 I bet we could.
3:16 Speaker 04 Just reference that episode if you wanna know what we're talking about.
3:20 Speaker 01 As a footnote every time we make the joke.
3:21 Andrew Manganelli? But we have two small things first. The first one is, within like a couple of hours of last episode, somebody on our subreddit made the crank prototype that you have to wind in to watch YouTube videos.
3:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:36 Andrew Manganelli? Which was crazy.
3:37 Speaker 01 Yeah, pretty insane. I didn't see it working, but I, I'm gonna take their word for it. They just actually.
3:42 Andrew Manganelli? They only posted pictures.
3:43 Speaker 01 Right.
3:44 Andrew Manganelli? I'm going to throw it out there. If you could post a video, that would be awesome. I would like to see that, but it is not lost on us that we have an audience big enough that literally within 12 hours, someone like made a stupid joke that we made in a game.
3:57 Speaker 01 So awesome.
3:58 Andrew Manganelli? That's like crazy to see and really cool.
4:00 Speaker 01 Please do not bring any of the others to life. Please.
4:04 David Imel? Force Mark has to pick people up on the street.
4:06 Speaker 01 Please do not do that.
4:06 David Imel? And watch that horrible, uh, listen to that horrible song on Spotify. You don't need it.
4:10 Andrew Manganelli? There was a comment that was just like, how dare you for playing that that long?
4:15 David Imel? I was like, I can't think, I can't think.
4:19 Speaker 01 But the second thing.
4:20 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
4:20 Speaker 01 Is actually a question that I have for you guys, listening and watching, especially here on YouTube. So a little backstory for the last couple of, almost actually probably more than a year, last couple of months, we've been working on both doing transcripts for every MKBHD video and more recently, dubs in multiple languages for MKBHD videos in an attempt to make them more accessible to people in different regions who don't speak English. You may know, a lot of people who watch our videos mostly live in English speaking regions and watch videos in English. But if you live in a Spanish speaking country, you might not watch these videos unless you have captions or maybe a dub in Spanish. And so it kind of unlocks availability of these videos.
5:01 Speaker 01 So we've been experimenting with it and trying a bunch of different things. We found something that works pretty well for captions. The dubs are interesting because we've experimented both with humans who speak both languages, both English and say Spanish, doing a direct translation, but they don't really sound like me.
5:20 Andrew Manganelli? They also take a long time.
5:21 Speaker 01 They also take much longer and obviously are pretty pricey, but then there's also AI dubs, which are a machine that sounds like me, but isn't necessarily a perfect representation. You know how Google translates a little off sometimes, but it actually does a voice dub of something that sounds like me in that other language, which is really interesting. It's faster, it's cheaper, but it's not as accurate. We've been playing with this a lot in, in different videos, different timing, different sorts of things. And the question that I have for you guys is specifically in our number two most popular country, which pop quiz is?
5:56 Andrew Manganelli? India.
5:57 Speaker 01 Is India. A lot of people in India speak multiple languages or do speak English or speak Hindi or, or sometimes switch back and forth between the two. And some of them watch videos in English or Hindi. I don't know if you've watched tech YouTube in India. Sometimes they switch back and forth as well. And the latest video, which was a Light Phone 3 review, we uploaded it at the same time with dubs in my voice in Spanish and Hindi.
6:23 Andrew Manganelli? I thought you learned Hindi.
6:24 Speaker 01 No, yeah, I didn't learn Hindi. This was actually a dub. And interestingly, Spanish, mostly positive feedback, people watching the videos in Spanish-speaking regions. What happens on YouTube is they detect that you're in a Spanish-speaking region and automatically play the video with the Spanish language. And a lot of people I saw on Twitter were very excited, like, oh, wow, I can watch the video basically in English on this channel, or in Spanish on this channel. And I saw mixed feedback from India because a lot of people in India, like I said, watch videos in English. And so when they opened the new video, it defaulted to the audio track of the Hindi dub.
6:57 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
6:57 Speaker 01 When they actually are pretty used to watching videos in English.
7:00 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
7:00 Speaker 01 And so some people were saying, oh, wow, this is Hindi. I like this better. I'll watch this. A lot of people were like, no, I don't like this. I'd rather watch in English like I usually do.
7:09 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
7:10 Speaker 01 And so I had a small sample size. This is why I'm opening it up to the waveform commenting audience. What, if you live in India and watch YouTube videos, what do you prefer? Do you prefer defaulting to English or defaulting to Hindi? You can dive into the settings and change it on a per-video basis, but I'm curious what your default is in what you watch on YouTube.
7:29 Andrew Manganelli? I can see that's a, I think the biggest issue we have here is that it defaults based on region. Because we've already shown that India is our number two, like, most-watched country. So they clearly are enjoying it in English. We wanted to do Hindi, so it might branch out to some more people. But it defaulting if you are already a subscriber and used to it. That's probably annoying to now check it off every time.
7:50 Speaker 01 I think that's why it hit. So like, in a lot of countries that are not on our top countries list, they're not on the list because most people don't watch videos in English in those places. So if you just pick a random country that doesn't speak English and then give them a dub, that might boost the amount of people who enjoy the videos in that country. But in like, US, or a bunch of places here that speak English, they don't want to dub in a language they're not used to. So that's kind of why it feels like we're seeing that level of feedback.
8:16 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah. Our, our other question is the difference between a human-created dub or an AI dub.
8:22 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
8:23 Andrew Manganelli? Not even really. The price that's our issue, it's that I think a human one usually takes about five days, four to five days where we can get an AI one in less than 24 hours and sometimes upload at the same time. So we're not sure if like, we've been testing both of where does it, is it a good benefit for us? Because is five days after the release kind of too late?
8:43 Speaker 01 Most of the time, yeah, it's, it's a great point because most, if you look at the curve of an upload, it's like this and usually after five days it's there and everyone's watched it. Who's going to watch it like tech videos have a really short shelf life a lot of times. Evergreen videos, maybe the people watch it longer down the road. That's cool. But yeah, I, I do think we got some feedback about the dub, the AI dub not being as accurate.
9:06 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, for sure.
9:07 Speaker 01 Which was our, and I can't fact check that because I don't speak the other languages.
9:10 Andrew Manganelli? Right.
9:10 Speaker 01 So TV.
9:11 Andrew Manganelli? It's definitely a pickle we're in, but would love to hear some feedback on a larger audience than just Twitter. I guess. So that's why we're posing it to you all, but next thing.
9:22 Speaker 01 Speaking of YouTube audiences, ha, I got that one good. We're recording this on Wednesday, which is the day of the anniversary of the 20th year since the first upload to YouTube. I could have phrased.
9:34 Andrew Manganelli? That was the longest.
9:36 Speaker 01 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video. This is the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube upload.
9:42 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
9:43 Speaker 01 There you go.
9:43 Andrew Manganelli? There you go.
9:43 Speaker 01 Me at the zoo by Jod. Yeah. 2005.
9:46 David Imel? Yeah. The thing about those elephants is they have really long snouts.
9:51 Andrew Manganelli? Do you remember the script for this video?
9:53 David Imel? Yeah, I watched it this morning.
9:54 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, is that what he said?
9:55 David Imel? It's also like, yeah.
9:55 Andrew Manganelli? I don't remember at all.
9:56 David Imel? 20 seconds long.
9:57 Speaker 01 Could have been trivia.
9:58 Andrew Manganelli? That could have been. It's chapered off now too.
10:00 Speaker 01 What?
10:02 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, really? I noticed that this morning. I was like, these chapters are flying by because it's.
10:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, 19 seconds.
10:08 Andrew Manganelli? You're like intros.
10:09 Speaker 01 Funny.
10:11 Andrew Manganelli? Wait, it's. Chaptered, but they're just all called intro. I'm very intro, the cool thing end.
10:18 Andrew Manganelli? They must, do they just like test half their features on this video?
10:21 Speaker 01 No, I think he logs back in.
10:22 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, he logs back in?
10:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, he's notoriously like changed the description of the video multiple times and like pinned comments because he was a founder of YouTube, so when he adds something there, it's like the founder of YouTube just said something, does he change the description of the video?
10:35 Speaker 04 Did you see that on the video? There's a little birthday cake?
10:38 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
10:38 Speaker 01 Just for today. It might be gone by the time you listen to this podcast, but I thought that's, that was pretty cool.
10:43 David Imel? That video can almost drink just one more year.
10:45 Andrew Manganelli? That's in the US, it can drink basically anywhere else.
10:48 David Imel? It can already enlist in the army.
10:49 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, that again too.
10:51 Speaker 01 I have some interesting numbers I'd like to share with you guys.
10:54 David Imel? Forty-seven.
10:55 Speaker 01 That are pretty crazy. So, number one.
10:57 David Imel? That's a pretty crazy number.
10:59 Speaker 01 Number one is, this is the first video uploaded to YouTube, it was 2005. Since then, over twenty trillion videos have been uploaded to YouTube.
11:09 Speaker 04 Hey, Adam from the future here. So I'm editing this episode and it turns out that YouTube actually updated their blog to say twenty billion YouTube videos. Not twenty trillion YouTube videos, as we say here. Okay, back to the episode.
11:22 Andrew Manganelli? If I had a nickel.
11:24 David Imel? You'd be pretty wealthy, my friend.
11:27 Speaker 01 I don't know if you understand.
11:29 David Imel? You could pay off the US national debt.
11:31 Speaker 01 Like the amount of storage space.
11:34 David Imel? Yeah.
11:35 Speaker 01 The amount of content.
11:36 David Imel? Yeah.
11:37 Speaker 01 Twenty tril- not one trillion.
11:40 David Imel? Yeah.
11:40 Speaker 01 Twenty trillion.
11:41 David Imel? I would like to know how much storage YouTube is currently actively hosting.
11:46 Andrew Manganelli? Would you?
11:46 Speaker 01 Twenty trillion.
11:47 David Imel? Yes.
11:47 Andrew Manganelli? Would you like to know that?
11:48 David Imel? Yes.
11:48 Andrew Manganelli? Cause it would probably blow your mind.
11:50 David Imel? That's why I would like to know. I would really like to know.
11:54 Speaker 01 The other, the crazy thing is twenty years, twenty trillion. So obviously we've gotten like a lot of videos per year.
11:59 David Imel? Yeah, there was exponential growth though.
12:00 Speaker 01 On YouTube, fittingly, on their twentieth birthday, they found that uh, there are roughly twenty million new videos uploaded every day.
12:08 David Imel? Twenty million new videos.
12:10 Speaker 01 That's another crazy stat.
12:11 David Imel? ChatGPT is notoriously not great at math.
12:13 Andrew Manganelli? Wait, this is, this is really easy though. Sorry. It'd be one trillion dollars. It's twenty trillion nickels because.
12:20 Speaker 01 Oh, you did? If you had a nickel?
12:22 Andrew Manganelli? I had to use ChatGPT.
12:23 David Imel? Cause a nickel's a twentieth of a.
12:24 Speaker 01 That is correct.
12:25 David Imel? Yeah.
12:25 Speaker 01 You'd have one trillion dollars. But yeah, twenty, twenty million videos uploaded every day.
12:29 David Imel? As we can't.
12:30 Speaker 01 Um, and YouTube users upload, or sorry, YouTube users average over a hundred million comments every single day.
12:39 Speaker 04 A hundred million?
12:40 Speaker 01 A hundred million comments. And I'm sure there's a graph somewhere of like 99% of the videos have zero comments and 1% of the videos have all the comments. Thanks to the waveform listeners for that.
12:50 David Imel? That's crazy.
12:51 Andrew Manganelli? Forty-seven of those are useful comments.
12:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:53 Andrew Manganelli? That's where that number came from.
12:54 David Imel? So you said, you said 20 million a day?
12:57 Speaker 01 Twenty million videos get uploaded a day.
13:01 David Imel? How many comments per day?
13:02 Speaker 01 And a hundred million comments are posted on YouTube every day.
13:06 David Imel? And 999 million of those were waveform comments.
13:10 Speaker 01 You mean 99 million? Cause there's a hundred million total.
13:13 Andrew Manganelli? We just, we broke the scale.
13:14 Speaker 01 I'm sorry. Math is hard. The last thing is, they discovered that creators, you know, you can heart a video, you can like a video, you can pin a, sorry, a comment. You can heart a comment. Creators hearted 10 million comments every single day.
13:30 David Imel? Wow.
13:31 Speaker 01 There's a lot.
13:32 David Imel? That's crazy.
13:32 Speaker 01 A lot of heart engagement going on.
13:33 David Imel? You know what's an interesting thing about YouTube? The like feature, I don't like that the like feature automatically adds it to a like videos playlist.
13:42 Andrew Manganelli? Same.
13:42 David Imel? Yeah, because sometimes I'm just like, I'm supporting my friend. Like, I was looking through my liked videos on YouTube today. And mostly I just like videos that my friends upload just to give them a boost. But I don't actually like the videos that I like, which is actually stupid of me.
14:00 Andrew Manganelli? Do you have playlists? Did you make, have you made your own playlists?
14:02 David Imel? No.
14:03 Andrew Manganelli? That's what I do. My liked playlist is just me trying to like, support people that I like. And then I make the Disc Golf workout, whatever documentary playlist, and then just save them to those instead.
14:15 David Imel? Interesting.
14:16 Speaker 04 But if you use YouTube Music, I believe.
14:18 Andrew Manganelli? No one does that?
14:20 David Imel? Wow.
14:21 Speaker 04 Well, if you like something, like a song, it also still saves on your liked playlist. Or even shorts. I've liked shorts and it saves in my liked videos.
14:30 David Imel? That's annoying.
14:30 Andrew Manganelli? That's, that's why that's a total throwaway playlist in my eyes.
14:33 David Imel? Yeah. And it gives you an Amazon ad to buy them.
14:36 Andrew Manganelli? What?
14:37 David Imel? The shorts.
14:39 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
14:40 Andrew Manganelli? Backwards pockets.
14:41 David Imel? Where would we be without that?
14:42 Speaker 01 Dude, I was running with the... Did I show you them?
14:45 Andrew Manganelli? That's... That might have been the deepest inside joke we've had in a while. I would like to see them later.
14:50 Speaker 01 I will bring them in next week.
14:51 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
14:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, they're backwards. I have a bizarro backwards twist. I want to do trivia.
14:56 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
14:56 Speaker 01 It's not for your trivia, it's for I have trivia for you guys. Just curious if you know the answers. Because obviously I know the YouTube trivia, but if you haven't already read the blog post, we'll see what you guys think.
15:07 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
15:07 Speaker 01 You remember when the first ever YouTube video hit a billion views?
15:11 David Imel? Yeah.
15:12 Speaker 01 You remember which one that is, right?
15:12 David Imel? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:13 Speaker 01 Which one is that?
15:14 David Imel? It was Gangnam Style.
15:15 Andrew Manganelli? That's what I thought it was?
15:16 Speaker 01 Correct.
15:16 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
15:17 Speaker 01 There are now, how many videos in the billion view club?
15:22 David Imel? One billion.
15:22 Speaker 01 On YouTube?
15:24 Andrew Manganelli? Closest delta?
15:25 Speaker 01 Closest delta. Yeah.
15:27 Andrew Manganelli? Twenty?
15:28 Speaker 04 No, I'm going with a hundred.
15:30 David Imel? A thousand.
15:31 Speaker 01 Twenty, a hundred, a thousand? A hundred is the closest.
15:35 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
15:35 Speaker 01 There are three hundred music videos. Three hundred music videos.
15:40 Andrew Manganelli? They're all music videos?
15:41 Speaker 01 I think there's a few more random, like, kids videos that are also in the billion view club.
15:45 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, I would assume they're all kids videos.
15:47 Speaker 01 But three hundred music videos, and the fastest, which took eighty-eight days, was which one?
15:54 Andrew Manganelli? To a billion?
15:55 David Imel? Justin Bieber.
15:55 Speaker 01 Fastest to a billion?
15:57 David Imel? It was that Justin Bieber song.
15:58 Andrew Manganelli? Despacito? It's not kids videos?
16:00 Speaker 01 It's not Despacito.
16:02 David Imel? It's not Gangnam Style.
16:03 Andrew Manganelli? It's not Baby Shark.
16:04 Speaker 01 It's not Baby Shark.
16:05 David Imel? Baby by Justin Bieber, right?
16:06 Speaker 01 It's not Baby. Baby was the first to a million dislikes or something else? It was one of the most disliked videos ever.
16:12 Andrew Manganelli? Until 2019 rewinds.
16:15 David Imel? Joke's on you guys, though. It's still a view.
16:18 Speaker 01 I'll give you the countdown of the four, three, and two.
16:22 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
16:22 David Imel? Okay.
16:23 Speaker 01 Four is Rosé by Bruno Mars, a hundred and five days.
16:26 David Imel? I don't even know that song.
16:27 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, that song is a banger.
16:29 Speaker 01 Three is Mi Hente by Willie William and Jay Balvin, a hundred and three days.
16:34 Andrew Manganelli? That's a good one.
16:35 Speaker 01 Then there's a tie at two, Ed Sheeran, Shape of You, and Despacito tied at ninety-seven days.
16:41 David Imel? What?
16:42 Speaker 01 And this one beat them all in just eighty-eight days, getting a billion views.
16:46 Andrew Manganelli? Was it recent? Like, I feel like in the past year, maybe?
16:49 Speaker 01 No, it's not in the last year.
16:51 David Imel? Is it old? You all know the song.
16:54 Speaker 04 Reviewing every iPhone.
16:55 Andrew Manganelli? So it's a song.
16:58 David Imel? Yeah, it's a music video. It's a song.
17:00 Andrew Manganelli? Can you give us the genre?
17:02 David Imel? Um, it's pop. I will tell you.
17:04 Andrew Manganelli? Is it pop with a letter in front of it?
17:06 David Imel? No. K-pop. K-pop. My last hint is that the artist's name kinda sounds like a tech company.
17:15 Speaker 04 Bruno Mars.
17:17 David Imel? Jay-Z.
17:19 Andrew Manganelli? I'm just assuming Pitbull's part of it somehow.
17:22 David Imel? Pitbull. He's probably solo. Solo video.
17:25 Speaker 04 Tech company.
17:26 David Imel? Man, this is a lot. This is a hard. Solo artist. Okay, give us another hint.
17:29 Andrew Manganelli? He played the first note?
17:30 David Imel? She is the only one in the video.
17:31 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
17:32 David Imel? Oh.
17:33 Speaker 04 Ariana Grande?
17:34 David Imel? No.
17:34 Andrew Manganelli? He played the first note?
17:35 David Imel? Yeah, he gave it away.
17:36 Andrew Manganelli? The first note?
17:38 David Imel? 100%.
17:38 Andrew Manganelli? I mean, we're not getting it. It seems like we're not getting it anymore. I wanna hear just the first note. This is just the first note.
17:44 David Imel? I'm gonna give it away right now.
17:47 Andrew Manganelli? This isn't like Friday, is it?
17:49 Speaker 04 No.
17:51 David Imel? This is Adele.
17:52 Speaker 04 Oh.
17:54 David Imel? Hello? Oh, yeah.
17:56 Andrew Manganelli? That's the fastest to a billion views?
17:57 David Imel? Yeah.
17:58 Speaker 04 Really?
17:58 David Imel? You know how I know that?
17:59 Speaker 04 You didn't.
18:01 Andrew Manganelli? Sorry.
18:02 Speaker 04 You did not know that.
18:03 David Imel? You know how I know that that is true? After hearing that it is true?
18:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:08 David Imel? How I can verify?
18:11 David Imel? My economics professor played it, played the music video for us as we walked in and he said, "This song is a banger, guys. I just had to let you know this."
18:20 Speaker 04 Wow.
18:20 David Imel? That's my, the only teacher who has ever played a music video for me in class. 88 days. It now has 3 billion views.
18:27 Speaker 04 Jeez.
18:28 David Imel? And you know what? There were like 100 of us in that class, so it actually has 3,100 views. But it only got one view from the economics professor. Nice. Yeah, he probably watched it a few times. Definitely.
18:39 Speaker 04 For sure.
18:40 David Imel? Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, there's your random trivia.
18:42 Speaker 04 Good trivia.
18:43 David Imel? From Marquez of the day. Well.
18:45 Andrew Manganelli? Are we down to keep going semi-off the rails here? Cause I have a question.
18:48 David Imel? Yeah.
18:49 Speaker 04 We're already so far gone, we might as well.
18:52 Andrew Manganelli? Because it's the 20th year of the first upload, I wanted everyone here to pick their favorite video on YouTube.
18:58 David Imel? Oh, I did.
18:59 Andrew Manganelli? And say it out loud here. It can be, you know, funny, educational, anything, just one you really enjoy.
19:06 David Imel? Okay.
19:06 Andrew Manganelli? For whatever reason. Do you want to go first?
19:09 David Imel? Yeah. Okay, so this is really, really hard, obviously.
19:12 Andrew Manganelli? It is super hard.
19:14 David Imel? But one that really sticks out in my head, pretty, pretty strongly, is the Vsauce video that's called Do Chairs Exist?
19:22 Andrew Manganelli? I feel like we've vaguely talked about this before.
19:24 David Imel? I think I've mentioned this video before. I really like this video. I think it goes, I think it's like 40% too long.
19:32 Speaker 01 Not right for Vsauce.
19:33 David Imel? Yeah.
19:34 Andrew Manganelli? 1.5x speed fixes that.
19:36 David Imel? Well, I actually recently hit 3.
19:39 Speaker 01 Let's go. 3X?
19:40 David Imel? Yeah.
19:41 Andrew Manganelli? New PR?
19:42 David Imel? I can only, I can only do it on my phone, but I've been doing everything at 3 recently.
19:47 Andrew Manganelli? Except for Hank videos.
19:48 Speaker 01 Diabolical dude.
19:49 David Imel? Cause he already talks fast.
19:50 Andrew Manganelli? Hank Green already talks very fast, so.
19:52 David Imel? Yeah.
19:52 Speaker 01 Can you watch Phil Franco videos?
19:54 David Imel? I have not watched one since like 2015.
19:57 Speaker 01 Yeah, you wouldn't survive long on 3X. 3X would just be like, like a fire hose of information.
20:02 David Imel? Yeah. I will say, so in the, in the spirit of this YouTube thing, I think that's one of my favorite videos. My most influential channel for me was a channel called Nerdwriter1, which was like the original video essay guy on YouTube before they became.
20:18 Andrew Manganelli? The OG.
20:18 David Imel? Before the category became popular.
20:20 Speaker 01 Very nice.
20:21 Andrew Manganelli? Do you want to go? You looked pretty excited this morning when you were thinking about.
20:24 David Imel? I thought of two. One of them, to me, is the, the goofy murder trail.
20:32 David Imel? Comic video. But that's just a video that I laugh every time I watch it.
20:36 Andrew Manganelli? I had never seen it until I started working here.
20:38 Speaker 01 I think I've watched it at least 10 times.
20:40 David Imel? What about the Evanescence goofy cover?
20:42 Speaker 01 I've watched those.
20:44 Speaker 01 But I'll recommend, I'll recommend another one that I think most people haven't seen, which is about 10 years ago, and I showed this on Twitter when it went up. There's a video that got recommended to me called Nobody Tells Us to Beginners, and it is a purely motion graphics video. Um, which is basically just walking through an Ira Glass quote.
21:02 David Imel? Yeah.
21:03 Speaker 01 But it is about how when you're starting up as a creator of any kind, there's always a gap between your skill level and your taste and what you believe is good. And the more you work and close that gap, the better your taste gets. And you're always chasing that.
21:19 David Imel? Yeah.
21:19 Speaker 01 And nobody tells that to beginners. So you just, as a beginner, assume you will never reach the level of your taste. But if you zoom out enough, you actually have passed your previous best. Anyway, it's
21:29 David Imel? Yeah.
21:30 Speaker 01 A minute and a half long. It's very inspiring. We'll link it below. I re-watch it probably at least once a year.
21:35 David Imel? Yeah.
21:35 Speaker 01 It's a banger.
21:36 David Imel? Yeah, that quote is great.
21:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:38 David Imel? Did you, he did a, um, Ira Glass did an interview recently on that podcast that started from the ashes of Reply All.
21:50 Andrew Manganelli? Hyperfixed?
21:50 David Imel? No, the other one.
21:51 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, the PJ vote version. He's done a couple. Is it on Search Engine?
21:54 David Imel? Search Engine, yeah. He did a video, he did a podcast called, uh, Is It Okay To Just Work All The Time? And it's basically just an interview with Ira Glass, but it is a very inspiring, very, uh, very interesting interview. I think you should listen to it.
22:08 Speaker 01 I'm downloading it right now for my flight.
22:09 David Imel? Do it.
22:10 Andrew Manganelli? What's it called?
22:10 David Imel? It's called, Is It Okay To Just Work All The Time? And the podcast is called
22:14 Speaker 01 Search Engine.
22:15 David Imel? Search Engine.
22:15 Speaker 01 Yeah.
22:17 Andrew Manganelli? This Reddit post about it just says, a podcaster interviewing another podcaster about making a podcast?
22:26 Speaker 04 It's crazy how Reply All ended and birthed two awesome podcasts.
22:31 David Imel? Yeah.
22:32 Speaker 01 Yeah. It's like a neutron star.
22:34 David Imel? Yeah, he has a really good, Ira Glass has a
22:38 Speaker 01 Sorry.
22:38 David Imel? Nerd. Ira Glass has a, Glass has a really good quote in that where he's like, um, he's like, why would I put out anything unless it was incredible? There's enough mid [BLEEP] on the internet already.
22:51 Andrew Manganelli? Damn.
22:52 David Imel? Hell yeah, brother. Let's go.
22:53 Speaker 01 What a bar.
22:54 David Imel? Anyway.
22:55 Speaker 04 Andrew, what's yours?
22:56 Andrew Manganelli? Um, I'm kind of between two, but I'll only say one to not make this go on too long. There's this 25 minute documentary called Remain Seated, Please. And it's just a story about these two friends who loved this ride at Epcot Disney so much. Called Horizon, which was like this old ride that showed you like what the future looked like. And then they started finding ways to like get out of the car and walk around the back of like the sets and like on the sets. And they videotaped it with like an old VHS and then they uploaded it like way later.
23:30 Andrew Manganelli? And it's just like really fascinating about them just like being these like full grown adults, just like walking around the set of this like Futuristic ride and they had to like duck behind. So when the cars came by and like people were actually watching it. Um, but they spent like years doing it. And just like this, it's this 25 minute documentary where you learn almost nothing, but keeps you entertained the entire time. So you don't need to be like super paying it to be like seven minutes long then. But, uh, yeah, I think it's one of my favorite, favorite videos on YouTube.
24:04 Speaker 04 That's a good one. Uh, I'm going to play Ellis's next because he's out sick today, but he did send in a video.
24:09 Speaker 05 What is up pod people? Uh, as you know, I'm sick, uh, but couldn't miss out on this opportunity to drop my favorite YouTube videos out there. Uh, a lot of my favorite videos are these really long sort of video essay things that require a lot of context to explain like the defunct land, uh, Disney Channel theme video or, uh, the John Boyce Dave Steve video.
24:35 Speaker 04 That's a good one.
24:35 David Imel? John Boyce videos are incredible.
24:37 Speaker 05 Favorite YouTube video, uh, that I feel like needs no context, uh, is, uh, it's called nightclub for deer. Uh, I do like it. You're good. You're good. Yeah, come on. All the deer. Come on through. All the deer. All the deer at one time. Come on. All the deer. More deer. Give me more, more deer. Come on, more. Give me some more, even more deer. Come on, come on. Wait a minute.
25:04 Andrew Manganelli? Are deer just funny? Because two of the videos I thought of for this was the one where they're recording deer out her window and her husband sneezes and she's like, thanks, Ron. He's like, what? I'm not allowed to sneeze.
25:17 Speaker 04 And then there's the other one where the guy's, the guy's dog chases all the deer.
25:22 David Imel? Fenton?
25:23 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
25:25 David Imel? Have you ever seen it?
25:27 Andrew Manganelli? Fenton, Fenton, no.
25:29 Speaker 04 I'm gonna need all of these links because I don't know what they're talking about.
25:32 David Imel? No.
25:46 Speaker 01 Where's this dog?
25:53 Speaker 01 It's a lot of deer. Dude, that dog saw an opportunity and he took it, dude.
25:59 Speaker 01 He's hurting them. He was like, "This is what I was born to do, man. Gotta do it. Somebody gotta do it."
26:08 Speaker 01 He's literally hurting them like sheep.
26:10 Andrew Manganelli? I changed my answer.
26:13 Speaker 01 Jesus Christ.
26:16 Speaker 01 Oh, thanks, Ryan. Those are quality. Those are quality. Shout out to YouTube, the purest form of social media. Do you have another one?
26:25 Andrew Manganelli? I'm crying.
26:28 Andrew Manganelli? That was so funny.
26:29 Speaker 04 Um, yeah, I think mine is probably, do you guys know Tiny Desk, NPR Tiny Desk?
26:34 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:35 Speaker 04 My favorite one is the Mac Miller one because Mac Miller did a Tiny Desk before passing and he played a couple of like my favorite songs and it's just a beautiful performance overall. So a lot of times I'll just play that in the background while I'm like cleaning the house or doing things and great performance, highly recommend it. He's got Thundercat on bass. It's like, it's, it's pretty epic. But yeah, that one's mine.
26:57 Speaker 01 Hell, yeah.
26:57 Andrew Manganelli? How far into the pot are we already? Cause we haven't touched a single news story.
27:01 Speaker 01 We're celebrating YouTube.
27:03 Speaker 04 Yeah. Um, we are like 30 ish minutes in.
27:06 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
27:07 Speaker 01 Okay.
27:07 Andrew Manganelli? Almost all of these are updates, so we can like.
27:09 Speaker 01 We can speed run them after the break. How about that?
27:11 Andrew Manganelli? Okay, cool.
27:12 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:12 Andrew Manganelli? It's a long break, but yeah.
27:13 Speaker 01 After what break? Alright, we gotta take a quick break. But before we do that.
27:17 Speaker 04 Break already?
27:18 Speaker 01 We, we, we do have more trivia.
27:21 Andrew Manganelli? Trivia.
27:23 Speaker 01 Dude. Yeah.
27:25 Speaker 04 Okay, so Ellis is out sick again, but I have an Ellis style question because of it.
27:30 Speaker 01 Oh, no.
27:30 Speaker 04 These are all real Google services that I grabbed from the Google graveyard.
27:34 Speaker 01 Oh, no.
27:35 Speaker 04 Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests? A, Grasshopper, B, Streams, C, Polly, or D, Shoelace?
27:52 Speaker 01 And they'd just be taking whatever.
27:55 Speaker 01 Whatever.
27:56 David Imel? Tebow. Tuboo.
27:58 Speaker 04 You want a hint?
28:00 David Imel? Scoobo.
28:01 Speaker 04 It was 11 months old when, when they discontinued.
28:06 David Imel? Didn't even make it a year.
28:07 Speaker 01 Wow.
28:08 David Imel? It's definitely not Polly. I know that.
28:10 Speaker 01 At least let it get to the end of the year. Wow.
28:11 David Imel? Yeah.
28:12 Speaker 01 Okay, well, we'll think about that and answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back.
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30:10 Speaker 01 All right, welcome back. We got a couple more updates to speed run through as we mentioned. First update, which is just kind of a random but funny headline, which is Apple was forced to drop the available now.
30:21 Andrew Manganelli? Not quite forced, recommended.
30:23 Speaker 01 They were recommended to and smartly complied. The National Advertising Division recommended that Apple remove the available now claim from the Apple Intelligence website. I think that's fair.
30:37 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, I think that's super fair.
30:38 Speaker 01 Half available now, but also most. It's a bunch of different things, whatever. Apple defines Apple Intelligence however they want. Some of it is available now, some of it is not. And so they were recommended to modify or discontinue the claim.
30:50 Andrew Manganelli? They said they disagreed, but they.
30:52 Speaker 01 But they went.
30:53 Andrew Manganelli? Followed.
30:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:54 David Imel? The only part of Apple Intelligence that I consider truly available now is Genmoji. And the writing, the writing modification thing just crashes my phone every time I even open it. So I just really, you know, it's just bad for everybody.
31:07 Speaker 01 Image playground.
31:10 Andrew Manganelli? I forgot that would exist.
31:12 Speaker 01 That's about.
31:12 David Imel? Taking up storage on my phone. I would like to forget about it.
31:18 Speaker 01 Yeah. That's all.
31:19 Andrew Manganelli? Just kind of a funny. Just one more thing. Right before Dub Dub, we'll probably see Apple Intelligence completely.
31:25 David Imel? It's been over 10 months since they announced Apple Intelligence and like all the Siri updates and stuff.
31:30 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, yeah.
31:31 David Imel? They also shuffled the leadership that's handling Apple Intelligence very recently because they're just like, oh, God.
31:38 Andrew Manganelli? It's like they brought in a bunch of the Vision Pro team, right? I think that's what Mark German said.
31:41 David Imel? Yeah. Because regardless of your stance on the Vision Pro, at least it's a product that is out.
31:47 Speaker 01 It does exist.
31:48 David Imel? It does exist.
31:49 Speaker 01 It is available now.
31:50 David Imel? It is available now. So.
31:52 Speaker 01 Yeah. Shout out to available now.
31:53 David Imel? That's why they brought it in. But speaking of.
31:57 Speaker 01 Here we go.
31:58 David Imel? Things on the internet.
31:59 Speaker 01 Nice.
32:00 Andrew Manganelli? Is it?
32:01 David Imel? What?
32:01 Andrew Manganelli? You could do better.
32:02 Speaker 01 Apple Intelligence.
32:02 David Imel? I could do better.
32:05 David Imel? Surprise Fediverse corner. You didn't expect that.
32:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's what the Fediverse updates, David.
32:15 David Imel? Yeah, okay, so Blue Sky has added verified checkmarks.
32:21 Speaker 04 Wait, have they actually rolled it out?
32:23 David Imel? Yeah.
32:23 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, I got like pop up on it.
32:24 David Imel? It's rolling out, yeah.
32:25 Speaker 04 I thought it was only for certain like organizations.
32:28 David Imel? Well, that's how it's working in general. So they are veri- so, okay. If you remember how verified badges used to work on Twitter before verified badges across the internet just became pay for play. Uh, it used to be on Twitter that you could apply for verification. People at Twitter would decide, is it important that your account is verified? So that people know that you are the real person that is posting from this account? And someone is not just impersonating you? Which, when it changed to pay for play, was very funny because many brands got impersonated by people and caused markets to dip. And that was really funny.
33:04 David Imel? It was, it was quite.
33:05 Speaker 04 It was, I'm not disagreeing with you.
33:08 David Imel? Uh, so now, Blue Sky, after a long period of time, has started rolling out their own form of verification, which looks practically exactly the same. Um, they did say that they had gone through many, many iterations of different things, like different colors and different shapes. But they landed on the blue checkmark because it matches their brand identity. And they said they tested things like green, but that it looked horrible and, uh, did not really relate to the Blue Sky brand like at all. So, for a little back backstory here, Blue Sky wanted the actual form of verification that was going to work on Blue Sky to just be domain name verification. If you don't know, on Blue Sky, there's a thing where if you own your own website,
33:52 David Imel? you can basically go into the DNS settings of your website and say, "Blue Sky, please use my website as my handle," which is the verifying portion of it. So then, when people see your handle, they can see davenwell.com and kubehd.com. And they know that you're the person that is posting because you own the website. Clearly, that's not super scalable for, you know, everybody on the internet because not a super high percentage of people even have their own website. Also-
34:22 Speaker 04 No one has their own website.
34:23 David Imel? Well, technically, you're leasing it from the IANA or whatever, but-
34:27 Speaker 04 Well, yeah, but I just mean like, we're not the normal people that would have our own-
34:30 David Imel? Yeah, very few people have their own website.
34:32 Speaker 04 My mom does not have a website.
34:33 David Imel? Right.
34:34 Andrew Manganelli? I think it's also, in general, just scrolling through the app, harder to tell. Because like, display name still is bigger and bolder and easier to see. Something near there versus the handle part of it-
34:44 David Imel? Right.
34:45 Andrew Manganelli? Is more obvious.
34:45 David Imel? Right, the handle is kind of there. So, they decided, okay, we're officially going to roll this out. Now, the way that they are doing it is, number one, Blue Sky themselves, which is Blue Sky the company, which is not same as, the same as Blue Sky the public benefit company, which makes the AT protocol. Because Blue Sky the company makes Blue Sky the app. I know, it's confusing. They are basically verifying important people that they deem important, so that they can make sure that they don't get spoofed, right?
35:16 Speaker 04 Having been hit up yet.
35:17 David Imel? Yeah.
35:18 Speaker 04 Flawed the system.
35:19 Speaker 01 I was just looking at my following page. The Onion has a verified check right now. The Verge has a verified check on my page right now.
35:27 David Imel? Yeah.
35:29 Speaker 01 There's a journalist I follow, a tech reporter for New York Times. She has a check.
35:34 David Imel? Yeah.
35:34 Speaker 01 I do not have a check. I don't, I think I've been impersonated yet.
35:38 Speaker 04 Are you MKBHD?
35:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
35:41 Speaker 04 Can you prove it?
35:42 Speaker 01 No.
35:43 David Imel? Yeah. Well, so there's a couple of ways that they're going about this. One, Blue Sky the company is just verifying people, but they're also rolling out something called Trusted Verifiers. And the idea of this is like, okay, if you're the New York Times, and you have a lot of reporters, and generally, when they start verifying people, this is the same thing they did on Twitter, they start with journalists and politicians. Because those are the two people that, the two types of people that spread news the most, the fastest. They, uh, Twitter was also very dominated by journalists and politicians before it even got big. So, what this does is they basically give an organization like the New York Times the ability to verify people on their team. So they say, okay-
36:27 David Imel? Okay, we verify the New York Times, the New York Times verifies their journalists. That sort of allows them to verify people much quicker. And so that's what they're doing right now. They surprisingly got a lot of pushback on this. A lot of people on on Bluesky were not too happy about this. Many people said it creates a caste system of popularity.
36:49 Andrew Manganelli? Of lords and peasants.
36:50 David Imel? Of lords and peasants, which is what Elon said he wanted to get rid of when he made it pay for play.
36:56 Andrew Manganelli? Why can't we all just figure out the big problem on all social media is lords and peasants?
37:00 David Imel? Yeah.
37:00 Andrew Manganelli? How will we solve it?
37:01 David Imel? Yeah, so, okay, I talked to Blue Sky a little bit last night about this because I was like interested in how this worked. Technically, the verification system is on protocol. It is on the AT protocol. So that means that if you start up another Blue Sky-like application that uses the AT protocol, you can choose whether or not you want to show the verification, you know, on your app or not. So, part of the differentiating factor of an app that uses the AT protocol could be that they don't want to show verified badges. If people really are that against it, they can just use something else.
37:37 Andrew Manganelli? It is cool that it's like built into the protocol.
37:39 David Imel? Yeah. It was interesting, like Twitter used to have, they haven't said whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach. I don't think they do.
37:48 Andrew Manganelli? I would hope so. One of the main complaints I'm seeing here is just there's like, please don't only put like verified stuff at the top of replies.
37:54 David Imel? Yeah.
37:55 Andrew Manganelli? That, because then then it feels like really only catered for.
38:00 David Imel? For sure. Like Twitter, I got really lucky in 2013 because someone randomly impersonated me and I put in like a
38:10 David Imel? complaint that was like this person's impersonating me and then Twitter verified me. And in like 2013, that was like a big deal. So everything I ever posted had like much bigger reach because that was the case when you were verified on Twitter way back then. But that's not the case here, I don't think. So, I don't know, I don't really see it as that big of a deal. But people don't want there to be a.
38:33 Speaker 01 Cast system, I guess.
38:34 David Imel? Yeah, I think it makes sense on any social network where people are spreading information slash news and representing themselves to have some sort of verification system.
38:43 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:43 David Imel? I, I think a lot of people are literally reacting to the fact that it looks so much like the Twitter one.
38:48 Speaker 01 It looks exactly like it.
38:50 David Imel? Which is a blue checkmark. I, whatever, I get it. But yeah, I think it's important to have this system and the fact that it's both with the protocol is a good thing. So.
38:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:58 David Imel? I think it's a win.
38:59 Andrew Manganelli? I feel like the blue checkmark has just outgrown Twitter. Like now it's also on Meta. It's a hashtag. The hashtag started on Twitter, but now it's everywhere, you know?
39:07 David Imel? And the problem is that it doesn't mean anything anymore because even Meta, it's just you pay for it. That's it. On Twitter and Meta, you pay for it.
39:14 Andrew Manganelli? And that's. YouTube has it also.
39:16 David Imel? Yeah. But you don't pay for that.
39:17 Andrew Manganelli? No, you don't pay for that. I'm still confused with the music badges, though. I feel like I see people with music badges so much more in comments lately.
39:24 David Imel? I see that a lot, too.
39:25 Andrew Manganelli? And I don't know what.
39:26 David Imel? I think it just mean you're, means you're like a verified artist on YouTube.
39:29 Speaker 01 That uploads to YouTube Music.
39:31 David Imel? Yeah.
39:31 Speaker 01 Or something like that.
39:32 David Imel? Yeah. I think it's fine.
39:34 Andrew Manganelli? I think it's fine. I think it's, you don't make it pay to win.
39:37 David Imel? Yeah. The one thing right now is like you can't, you can't request to be verified and they're just kind of going through the people that they think are worth verifying. So I think it's pretty much, at least in this initial wave, just going to be politicians and journalists because they're verifying all the publications and the publications verify, verify their journalists.
39:57 Andrew Manganelli? Hank Green's verified.
39:58 David Imel? Yeah. Yeah, well.
40:00 Speaker 01 He's Hank Green, though.
40:01 David Imel? He's like one of the biggest accounts on Blue Sky, so that would make sense.
40:06 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah. In other news.
40:07 David Imel? Yeah.
40:08 Andrew Manganelli? We have the official preorder date for Nintendo Switch 2.
40:11 David Imel? Nintendo Switch 2.
40:13 Speaker 01 Oh, boy.
40:13 Andrew Manganelli? And if you're listening to this on Friday.
40:14 David Imel? It already passed.
40:15 Andrew Manganelli? You probably didn't get a Nintendo Switch 2 if this is news to you because it is Thursday, the 24th.
40:21 David Imel? Yeah.
40:21 Andrew Manganelli? Um, big thing about this, pricing for 49, there are some price increases on a bunch of different accessories ranging from $5 to $10. I think Joy-Cons and Pro Controllers are both $5 more expensive. Some of the cameras are more expensive. Um, so yeah, your little bundle you buy when you buy one is gonna be. Pretty pricey.
40:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, but they didn't raise the price of the console, which is good.
40:46 Andrew Manganelli? I also read that most GameStops are claiming they're expecting around 100 consoles, which is, that's a lot. That really feels like a lot. I think I read somewhere on Twitter that eight years ago, they were getting between like 5 and 30 consoles a store. There's also half as many GameStops as there used to be. So that could be part of the reason.
41:08 Speaker 01 Your local GameStop may have a line.
41:09 Andrew Manganelli? It's like 11 a.m. in store, but still like Walmart, Target are all doing some sort of pre-orders on the 24th.
41:16 Speaker 01 Yeah, so it's midnight ET on the 24th in the United States.
41:22 Andrew Manganelli? Was it? I thought?
41:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, midnight ET. GameStop is different, but the other ones. So tonight. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it's tonight at midnight, which is kind of crazy. And speaking of GameStop, they actually do have some pretty sick trade-in deals. You can get $125 for an original Switch, which considering they originally only costed $300, and that was eight years ago, is a pretty good trade-in, I would say.
41:50 Andrew Manganelli? I think it's awesome because we're all complaining about the price. If you trade one in, you're getting it for about the same price as this.
41:58 Speaker 01 As the Switch one.
41:58 Andrew Manganelli? 325 instead.
42:00 Speaker 01 Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
42:01 Andrew Manganelli? If it's good. You do need to bring in the original HDMI cord, it said, which I thought was very funny and might mess a lot of people up.
42:08 Speaker 01 Which I don't know if I have. There is. That is hilarious. Wait, so you need the original HDMI?
42:13 Andrew Manganelli? I don't know. It just listed the stuff because it needs like the console, the dock, the power cord, which also could be a USB-C cord if you lost.
42:21 Speaker 01 There's no way anyone has the original HDMI cable.
42:24 Andrew Manganelli? I think I do.
42:25 Speaker 01 I mean, some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it, so they probably still have it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess if that's the one you're using, then maybe that's the cable. I have a way longer cable. It's like 15 feet long. Yeah, like I had a cable already, so I definitely, I don't know what I did with that cable. Yeah. You can also get $175 for a Switch OLED trade-ins. I have an OLED, but I'm probably not going to trade it. You can get $100 for a Switch Lite trade-ins.
42:49 Speaker 04 I was just gonna ask, are you guys gonna preorder?
42:52 David Imel? I literally go back and forth every single day, dude.
42:54 Speaker 01 Minute by minute.
42:55 Andrew Manganelli? I bet at some point tomorrow, I will look at one of the preorders and if it's available, I'll have a very hard time not doing it, mostly because FOMO right there.
43:04 David Imel? Yeah, yeah, I think I'm in the, I'm in the same boat where I'm not gonna try really hard to preorder. But if I happen to stumble on one that's available.
43:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, you happen to go to bestbuy.com or GameStop.
43:17 David Imel? That's what happened to me when I bought my Switch OLED, because they were literally impossible to find for like weeks. And I randomly went on bestbuy.com and I was like, one available near you. And I was like, huh. So I put in my cart for pickup and I showed up to Best Buy and the guy's like, "Oh my god, how did you get this?" Like when he was like checking me out, he's like, "How did you manage to, did you use like a, an app to the?" And I was like,
43:36 Speaker 01 Are you a botter?
43:38 David Imel? It was just on the internet, my guy. It was just there.
43:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
43:41 David Imel? Another interesting note is that Nintendo had to issue a supply constraint warning in Japan, because it got 2.2 million applications for preorders for the Switch 2. Uh, for reference, it sold 360,000 in Japan in the first month when the Switch 1 came out. So this is about six times that demand, which is absolutely insane. Uh, and it basically said that a significant number of people will not get it on June 5th.
44:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, this is the, so they just kind of, you just fill out a form, there's no, this isn't people who like put down five bucks or anything.
44:15 David Imel? This is the like red, no, no, no. This is like registering interest through the My Nintendo Store to preorder.
44:20 Speaker 01 Oh, well, that's something.
44:21 David Imel? Yeah.
44:22 Speaker 01 Wow.
44:22 David Imel? Um, Andrew, I had a question for you about this, that you might know more than me about.
44:26 Andrew Manganelli? Doubt it, but let's go.
44:28 David Imel? My question is, like immediately after the, uh, announcement video, you were able to sign up for preordering it through the My Nintendo Store thing?
44:39 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
44:40 David Imel? But it was sign up for interest, and then there was that whole thing where like you could, uh, if you had 50 hours of playtime and you had one year of Nintendo Switch Online, you would be able to preorder.
44:52 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, I thought there was like a sign up for the pre preorder. Like it almost feels like the like Capital One early ticket thing.
44:59 David Imel? Well, what was, yeah, what was gonna happen was that you were gonna be able to, those people were gonna be able to preorder a day before everybody else on My Nintendo Store, and then they stopped preorders in the US altogether and pushed them to tomorrow. So my question is, is that whole thing just?
45:15 Andrew Manganelli? That's the last I heard of it. I haven't seen anything about that. I'm not like, You know, refreshing every day, but I have not heard anything about that.
45:22 David Imel? Cause I haven't gotten anything in my email that's like pre-ordered.
45:25 Andrew Manganelli? No, I didn't see anything on the Switch subreddit. I very well could have missed it. I like every couple of days go on there and just kind of skim through everything to see what's going on. But uh, yeah, I don't know if they ever got to do anything with that because of all the delays.
45:38 David Imel? Interesting, interesting. Uh, and then you had one more thing here?
45:42 Andrew Manganelli? Um, we have a couple more.
45:44 David Imel? Well, you've.
45:44 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, that's if you're interested in trading in, I was just reading that I thought was interesting. If you have like the OG Switch one, apparently they're super popular in the modding community. Cause they're like the only one you can mod.
45:55 David Imel? Oh, yeah.
45:56 Andrew Manganelli? I've saw people on there selling them for like a few hundred bucks.
45:58 David Imel? Oh, wow.
45:59 Andrew Manganelli? If you need a different way to make some money for Switch two, that could be a way.
46:03 David Imel? I think like the modding thing only works if you hadn't up like updated the software past a certain.
46:09 Andrew Manganelli? Could be, I'm not totally sure. I just thought it was.
46:11 Speaker 04 What if I just use the money to short GameStop instead?
46:15 David Imel? Guaranteed.
46:16 Andrew Manganelli? This is not financial advice.
46:20 David Imel? Alright.
46:21 Andrew Manganelli? But uh, speaking of financial advice, Google could probably use some. I know, it's terrible.
46:27 David Imel? I'm available, Google.
46:27 Andrew Manganelli? We, we got an antitrust update in the US versus Google case.
46:32 David Imel? And what is that?
46:33 Andrew Manganelli? Um, so we all know that the judge found Google to be a monopoly.
46:38 David Imel? Yep.
46:38 Andrew Manganelli? Um, and they're in the process of figuring out how the US government's going to fix it. So the judge during this trial said they're asking for three different things. One is to prevent Google from striking deals for Prime search engine placement. Um, referenced how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually.
46:55 David Imel? Amazon has their own search engine?
46:58 Andrew Manganelli? I missed it.
46:59 David Imel? No, you just said Prime search engine placement.
47:02 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
47:02 Speaker 04 Oh, you very much confused me.
47:04 Andrew Manganelli? I was like, wait, what?
47:06 David Imel? Thought maybe.
47:06 Andrew Manganelli? But yeah, we, I mean, we've talked about how much Google pays Apple.
47:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
47:11 Andrew Manganelli? To be that. They want Google to divest Chrome. The judge said it's the starting point of 35% of all user queries and has over 4 billion users.
47:22 Speaker 01 Yeah.
47:22 Andrew Manganelli? And then they also would like to require Google to license its search data to competitors that would want it. So obviously they still make money through that, through the licensing fee, but obviously Google does. Google wants that information for themselves. Monetarily, it's more important to them because they get to do things other people don't get to do. Even though they could make a ton of money off of it.
47:43 Speaker 01 Yeah.
47:44 Andrew Manganelli? So Google's pushing back to almost everything they said above. However, they did kind of agree with parts of the striking deals and not being like a exclusive default search engine, which is, but the DOJ is like, cool, you can kind of agree with us on that, but you already have created such a like impossible lead over through these like monopolistic tactics. That like, I think we need to do this a little more to make up for an insurmountable.
48:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:18 Andrew Manganelli? This place that you're in right now.
48:19 Speaker 01 This is the interesting part to me, which is always like, okay. Google's established this lead and whatever you think about how they got the lead or whatever, now they are like the search engine that people choose. And Google still continues to pay Apple $20 billion a year to be the default search engine in Safari. What if they didn't? Would, what would Apple do?
48:43 David Imel? I think the concern is that Apple would just turn on their own search engine they've had ready for a very long time.
48:49 Speaker 01 I think that's a possibility, but I don't know that, like, is Google really think that that's what's gonna happen? I don't, I just don't know that people would, well, like, would iPhone users be cool with, oh, I just like typed in the search box to Google something and it's just all this other search engine came up for some reason.
49:05 David Imel? I don't think they'd care.
49:06 Speaker 01 Really?
49:07 David Imel? I really don't.
49:08 Speaker 01 I think there'd be a lot of memes if it was Bing tomorrow, like, how many people would just be like, why? I guess Bing, to be fair, looks a lot like Google.
49:16 David Imel? I think, I think Bing has a lot of negative connotations for everybody at this point. So I kind of feel like maybe they'd change it from there.
49:24 Andrew Manganelli? I think the biggest thing is if we're talking just like. Average person who has a phone, how many of them would know how to change the defaults?
49:31 David Imel? Yeah.
49:32 Andrew Manganelli? They might literally be stuck in whatever that, and that's hundreds of millions of people.
49:37 David Imel? And I just don't think a lot of people care.
49:39 Speaker 04 I don't know, because a lot of people still buy Microsoft computers and they open up Edge to download Chrome.
49:45 Andrew Manganelli? There's also a lot of people who have Microsoft computers and just use Edge because it's there and Bing is the default and they have no idea.
49:52 David Imel? But Chrome is the most popular browser.
49:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:54 Andrew Manganelli? It is.
49:54 David Imel? It's not the default on any computer other than Chromebooks. Where it is the OS.
49:58 Speaker 01 So people do like seek out Chrome and seek out Google.
50:02 David Imel? That is true.
50:02 Speaker 01 So I just feel like if Google stopped paying Apple tomorrow, obviously, Apple could spin up a search engine and would have to announce it and explain that at some point and they could launch it and do a whole thing. But I just wonder, like, would people?
50:13 Andrew Manganelli? Well.
50:14 Speaker 01 It would, it would, I think it would, my point is, I think it would continue to be Google for quite a while.
50:18 Andrew Manganelli? Sure, but I think it's also the fact that Google's paying them $20 billion a year proves how important that defaultness is.
50:27 David Imel? Well, Google's an ads business, so.
50:29 Speaker 04 Why would they want to not pay 20 billion to find out? You know, like, I'd rather just pay 20 billion.
50:35 Andrew Manganelli? That's how important it is.
50:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:36 Andrew Manganelli? They're tossing 20 billion a year.
50:38 Speaker 01 How much has a 20 billion been negotiated where it was like, give us 100 billion and Google's like, no, we'll give you 20 billion.
50:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:44 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
50:45 Speaker 01 All right.
50:45 David Imel? There's also, I think it's, it's more important for them to show more revenue than it is for them to show more profits necessarily. And if they're getting more revenue, more and more revenue because more and more people are using Google Search. If that dropped by even 20%, all of a sudden, like, Google Search has dropped by 20% looks terrible in their stock tanks.
51:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
51:06 David Imel? It's just a lot of nuanced stuff.
51:09 Speaker 01 That's the question.
51:10 David Imel? I think by a lot, honestly. My mom would not go to Google.com on her iPhone.
51:14 Speaker 01 But if they, but if they open up search on the iPhone after Google stops paying, what would, what does Apple do? Do they just leave it at Google?
51:22 Andrew Manganelli? Who knows?
51:23 Speaker 01 I think they just leave it at Google.
51:24 Andrew Manganelli? Something with like the options of doing it in the settings, which most people never find.
51:28 Speaker 01 Or they take money from someone else? I don't know.
51:31 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
51:31 David Imel? I do think that Apple has an incentive to keep it on Google because Google is still the best experience right now.
51:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
51:38 David Imel? Compared, compared to Bing.
51:40 Speaker 01 Yeah.
51:41 David Imel? Yeah.
51:42 Andrew Manganelli? I feel like they clearly are willing to do something else, though, because they're getting paid to do it.
51:47 David Imel? Yeah.
51:48 Speaker 01 Yeah. I bet Apple has like What they would actually do. A fully fledged, really good product that is just ready to go. That's gotta be.
51:55 Speaker 04 That they just don't think would make more than 20 billion dollars.
51:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
51:58 Speaker 04 Therefore, let's just take the money from Google.
52:00 Speaker 01 Into the complexities of running an ads business.
52:03 Speaker 04 With privacy way more at the forefront in their eyes.
52:05 Speaker 01 Because that's what a search engine is. It's an ads business. So we think, so we think Apple has the ability to launch a full-fledged search product tomorrow. Yes. But doesn't do it now because taking 20 billion from Google and just keeping it at Google is fine. I think that to them, that's less complicated than like getting into the advertising business. And they could do it and they could make it, probably make a lot of money, but it, the, like you said, like the security stuff and the, the data privacy.
52:37 Speaker 04 I feel like if the government just told Apple, you can no longer have Google be the default, they would just make like a super private browser.
52:45 Speaker 01 I don't think it would be.
52:45 Speaker 04 We're not dealing with this at all.
52:47 Speaker 01 I don't think they would tell them, Google can't be the default. It would be, Google can't pay you to be the exclusive.
52:52 Speaker 04 Well, either way, I just mean like, Apple, I don't think would wanna be bothered with any of this.
52:56 Speaker 01 Well, also think about the antitrust potential of Apple having their own browser that is the default. Because they would definitely come after Apple and be like, you can't do that.
53:06 Speaker 04 Well, not if they're not doing any kind of like advertising monopolistic things.
53:10 Speaker 01 Yeah, right now, Android.
53:11 Speaker 04 They wouldn't do an advertising business.
53:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, Android phones, Chrome is the default, Google's the default search engine. Yeah. And that obviously is a big point of contention with Chrome, but let's say Safari is the default and Apple Search is the default search engine. And they're not the biggest search provider, so they can't really have a monopoly argument yet. Is that fine for now, I guess? It seems like that'd be fine. I just don't, I don't know. It seems hard to believe that Apple could launch a new business today that is that massive. That threatens their biggest competitor, but doesn't do it. Well, you know, the US broke up Microsoft because they were monopolizing search engines with Internet Explorer.
53:53 Speaker 04 I could totally see Tim Cook getting on stage and being like, you know, never explaining the Google.
53:58 Andrew Manganelli? Chrome thing, but just being like, we have this new browser, super private on your phone, doesn't go anywhere. And they're just like, we're just not gonna deal with this.
54:05 David Imel? Just search engine. It can be the same browser, but just like the search engine, we've built a search engine.
54:09 Andrew Manganelli? Or like, get around all this.
54:10 David Imel? It could be under, I almost picture it being under Apple intelligence of being like, yeah, we've got Siri. So if you want to search for stuff, there's Siri search. Yeah. And it's super private and, and no one can sell you ads based on what you search, et cetera, et cetera. Wouldn't want any of those guys collecting data on you, would you?
54:26 Andrew Manganelli? Exactly.
54:26 David Imel? Use Safari.
54:27 Andrew Manganelli? True. The rest of this is pretty much about data. Satya Nadella testified during this. I don't know why I think that's so funny that he's like, the only way to build a great search engine was, is with unobtainable amounts of search data and Google's made sure no one else has that besides themselves, which no shit, the CEO of Microsoft is like, yes, please let me buy that data.
54:48 David Imel? Yeah.
54:49 Andrew Manganelli? And then what's also funny is kind of related to Microsoft is
54:52 David Imel? I hate it.
54:53 Andrew Manganelli? During the trial, the head of product from OpenAI mentioned that they would be interested in purchasing Chrome if it were to go on sale. Which now is very funny because is their boss not in the room with them? Who makes?
55:05 David Imel? Yeah, Satya. Satya's like, you'd what? You would what? It's a shame if something happened to our investment.
55:13 Andrew Manganelli? I just thought that was so funny. And also, please, God, no OpenAI. Don't buy Chrome.
55:18 David Imel? Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of antitrust suits.
55:23 David Imel? Another one.
55:24 Andrew Manganelli? Let's keep the good times going.
55:26 David Imel? Apple and Meta just got hit with really big DMA antitrust fines. If you remember, the European Union basically went after Apple and Meta and were basically like, you cannot do these things. The big thing for Apple was third-party app stores was a major thing. Where Apple eventually complied, but they did so in the most malicious compliance way possible. To the point where it basically penalized you a ton if you were willing to put your app on a third-party app store in the European Union. And made it like worse for most people. So, uh, the EU is not happy about that malicious compliance.
56:05 David Imel? And they fined Apple $570 million for violating the DMA, which is crazy. Uh, and it says that has 60 days to basically remedy this. So that's, that's not too good for Apple. We'll see what's, what happens there. They're probably going to have to get rid of all of that jargon and just fully open it up without any consequences. Uh, it'll be interesting to see if Apple actually complies with that. The EU is actually also, uh, not happy with Meta for a very similar reason. It was charging Facebook and Instagram users to either pay a subscription fee to like, get rid of all of the ads that were being shown there, or they could use their personal data,
56:48 David Imel? um, to kind of like have ad-supported versions on the platform. And Meta's solution was to, in the EU, was to allow free users to see fewer unskippable full-screen ads. Uh, but the EU is not too happy about that either. So, both of them got hit with huge fines. Apple's fine was 570 million. Meta's fine was about half that, but they could basically be continue, they could continue to get fined fairly regularly unless they fix these issues within 60 days.
57:18 Andrew Manganelli? It's crazy to think 570 million is a gigantic fine, yet we just talked about them paying about 30 times that a year to Google.
57:26 David Imel? 20 billion to Google. Yeah, it doesn't feel like such a big fine. That's crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, most of these companies will take the fines if it means they're making more money by doing the thing they're not supposed to do. That's just generally how it works, because the fines are just not big enough to actually be real deterrents.
57:44 Andrew Manganelli? Mm-hmm.
57:44 David Imel? Uh, this seems quite a bit bigger. 570 million that they have to pay right now. They're gonna appeal it, obviously. But that seems like a, a bigger deterrent than they usually get hit with, so we'll see how that plays out.
57:56 Andrew Manganelli? This is like when you see like a Ferrari parked in like a do not park thing, and it just has like four tickets on a dash. Like, yeah, they don't care.
58:02 David Imel? I don't care. It's more convenient for me to be parked illegally. Yeah, wow. Um, and then last little thing about companies giving large sums of money to other companies. It came out that Google pays an enormous amount of money to Samsung to have Gemini pre-installed on its phones.
58:19 Andrew Manganelli? This does not shock me at all.
58:21 David Imel? Yeah, yeah.
58:22 Andrew Manganelli? They seem to be very close partners in a lot of ways.
58:27 David Imel? Yeah.
58:27 Andrew Manganelli? So, yeah.
58:27 David Imel? Yeah, I mean, at the Pixel event, they literally showed Gemini on the Galaxy S24 Ultra.
58:33 Andrew Manganelli? At Google I/O, they regularly demo exclusive features.
58:37 David Imel? Maybe it was I/O.
58:38 Andrew Manganelli? On Samsung phones.
58:39 David Imel? Yeah.
58:40 Andrew Manganelli? They'll probably do it again this year.
58:41 David Imel? We knew that they had a very close partnership, but it seems like it's been getting closer and closer. And now we have actual evidence that they've been paying them a lot of money. So apparently, Google has been paying Samsung an enormous amount of money since January monthly to have Gemini pre-installed on Samsung's phones. So that would probably be around the announcement of the S25 series. It also gives Samsung a percentage of revenue earned from advertisers in the Gemini app. I have never seen an ad in the Gemini app.
59:09 Andrew Manganelli? Me neither.
59:10 David Imel? So I'm not really sure what that means. Yeah, it could be a future thing. It could be a future thing. But the judge actually ruled that this violates antitrust law and is hearing testimony to figure out what Google will have to do to remedy the behavior. So Google's not in the best situation right now.
59:27 Andrew Manganelli? This coming out in the middle of this antitrust thing happening feels like the start of the search engine. They're just doing it with AI instead.
59:35 David Imel? Yeah.
59:35 Speaker 01 You know what I just thought of?
59:36 David Imel? What?
59:37 Speaker 01 OpenAI has been working on this search product. Maybe if Google wasn't paying.
59:43 Andrew Manganelli? Careful, Markes, careful.
59:44 Speaker 01 Maybe if Google buys. If Google wasn't paying Samsung, Samsung would just like switch it to OpenAI's product.
59:48 Andrew Manganelli? This says they had offers from OpenAI and Microsoft as well.
59:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, so maybe, maybe in a world today where Google stops paying Apple to be the default search engine in Safari, OpenAI is like.
1:00:01 Speaker 01 I want that deal. I want to be the search.
1:00:03 David Imel? We know what's funny is like Safari kind of got dumber when they added, not Safari. Siri, sorry. Siri kind of got dumber when they added the OpenAI integration.
1:00:13 Speaker 01 ChatGPT, yeah.
1:00:14 David Imel? ChatGPT integration. There's been like multiple cases that people post online of like, "Hey Siri, what day of the week is it?" And it'll be like, "Do you want me to ask ChatGPT for that?"
1:00:24 Andrew Manganelli? It's literally the Bixby April Fools video we did where it's like, "It can't answer it. I'm literally gonna ask someone else."
1:00:30 David Imel? Yeah.
1:00:32 Speaker 01 We were ahead of our time with that joke.
1:00:33 Andrew Manganelli? We were.
1:00:33 David Imel? Yeah, so.
1:00:35 Andrew Manganelli? My, I just wanna say, my chat GPT experience lately, it's few and far between, and it has been miserable every time.
1:00:43 Speaker 01 Really?
1:00:43 Andrew Manganelli? Every time it's like, hey, can you do this thing? And I'll do it, do it, do it. And then I'll be like, can you do one more? That's against our policy. Why is it against your policy? For this reason. Cool. Do it without that reason. That is against our policy. Perfect example, I was like, trying to explain to Tim a thumbnail I wanted to make. And it was just this idea of typing on a keyboard and the keys are flying all over the place.
1:01:04 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:01:04 Andrew Manganelli? So it did a pretty good job at creating that. And then I said, can you make this in, look like a YouTube thumbnail? And it throws the YouTube logo on and some text that looks terrible. I said, can you please take that off and change the text to this? And then first it says, you've run out of requests for today, cuz I don't have Pro. Please come back in 24 hours. That was Friday. I come back Monday. I ask it to remove it. It says, uh, you've run out of requests. And it's had to do that three times. I said, that was three days ago. I'm past the time limit. It said, you're right. And then it, and then it said, let me try to do that generating image. And it said, this is against our policy. So I said, why? And it said, there was a logo involved in it and they can't do anything with logos. So I said, you put the logo in.
1:01:48 Andrew Manganelli? In fact, I'm asking you to take it out. Said, whoa, you're right. I did, I did put that in and you are just asking to put that, take it out. What should I, let me get a, get on with that. And then it says, generate image. Says, that is against our policy. And then I just gave up. I'm like, not doing this anymore. So yeah, that was my last chat GPT experience.
1:02:07 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:02:07 Andrew Manganelli? It's terrible.
1:02:08 Speaker 01 That sounds horrible.
1:02:09 Speaker 04 If only you had a Samsung phone that you could just.
1:02:12 Andrew Manganelli? If only I had damage playground.
1:02:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:02:16 Speaker 01 Then you can make a cartoon. All right. Yeah, okay. Well, we, we will take another quick break. We do have, of course, our trademarked. Have we trademarked?
1:02:25 Andrew Manganelli? No.
1:02:25 Speaker 01 Our tra, we're our.
1:02:26 Andrew Manganelli? I mean, just kidding.
1:02:27 Speaker 01 We are.
1:02:28 Andrew Manganelli? Don't look.
1:02:29 Speaker 01 Our patent pending final segment, uh, last of the month called Crown or Clown.
1:02:33 Andrew Manganelli? And clown.
1:02:34 Speaker 01 Crown and clown. So, uh, we're gonna get to that after the break. But of course, we should do one more round of trivia.
1:02:44 Speaker 01 Okay, trivia.
1:02:45 David Imel? Trivia.
1:02:46 Speaker 01 Question two. Twitter announced a public verification system in what year? Asterisk. It was discontinued that same year because they received too many requests.
1:02:57 David Imel? Public.
1:02:57 Speaker 01 Oh, but when did they launch it? The public one?
1:03:00 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, like you can request it publicly?
1:03:03 David Imel? Just being able to request or like, oh.
1:03:06 Speaker 04 Is that where there's like a verified account and you had to like, what happened?
1:03:09 Andrew Manganelli? Like, I think it was in the setting.
1:03:10 David Imel? They got too many people requesting.
1:03:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was like a form.
1:03:13 David Imel? We don't have that many employees.
1:03:14 Andrew Manganelli? In the settings, there was like a form you could fill out.
1:03:16 David Imel? Yeah, yeah.
1:03:17 Speaker 04 Oh, wow.
1:03:18 David Imel? Yeah.
1:03:18 Speaker 04 I didn't know about that.
1:03:20 David Imel? I was verified after it shut down somehow.
1:03:22 Speaker 04 Oh, nice.
1:03:23 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, really?
1:03:24 David Imel? Yeah, because there was still a, this person's impersonating me like form. And I filled that out and they were like, oh, we're just going to verify it.
1:03:32 Speaker 04 I got verified like two weeks before they made it paid. And I was like, well, there goes that.
1:03:38 David Imel? Oh, really?
1:03:39 Speaker 04 And then everyone was like, look at this loser. Check.
1:03:43 David Imel? That's funny.
1:03:44 Andrew Manganelli? And then you had to pay to put it.
1:03:45 Speaker 04 Oh, no, I did not pay. They just removed it.
1:03:47 David Imel? No, yeah.
1:03:49 Speaker 01 All right. All right, well, we'll think about it. Answers at the end. We'll be right back.
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1:05:59 Andrew Manganelli? Welcome back. We are doing Crown and Clown, and I think I'll go first because I have the two most boring ones.
1:06:06 Speaker 04 Can we remind the, I was gonna say the users?
1:06:08 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, I guess I will. At the end of every month, we do a crown, which is something we thought was the best thing that happened this month, and a clown, which is something we thought was the dumbest thing that happened this month. We try really hard to keep it within the month. We'll see how we go. We need to be a little more streamlined of this, and we're working on it, which probably means we won't be. But
1:06:32 Speaker 04 Nice. One hour later.
1:06:33 Andrew Manganelli? I will pitch, I think the crown of April is the Nintendo Switch.
1:06:39 Speaker 04 That's what I was gonna say.
1:06:40 Andrew Manganelli? It's really hard not to say it. As much as people gave it crap for pricing, and there's been some delays, I still really think they delivered on the majority of the things.
1:06:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, my argument is
1:06:52 Andrew Manganelli? It's the thing I'm the most excited about.
1:06:53 Speaker 04 Have they? Because it's not even out yet. What if it's just a break?
1:06:56 David Imel? I mean, we will see.
1:06:58 Speaker 01 Announced.
1:06:58 Andrew Manganelli? It's always been for June. It actually hasn't been delayed on delivering yet.
1:07:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:07:03 Andrew Manganelli? Yet.
1:07:04 Speaker 04 No, no, I know. But I mean, like, what if we get it and it sucks? Well, okay.
1:07:08 Andrew Manganelli? They could still screw up the, because they said they fixed the stick drift, but it's not hall effect. So I don't know if I fully believe them on that. But a lot of the other things were good minus pricing and some of the game card keys. But also like, and I didn't know this, apparently a lot of Xbox and PlayStation games have been doing this for a long time. Without the physical key, it's just a download code inside the box. So this is a better version of that. I totally agree because you can sell them and trade them and whatever later. So I think they did a good job.
1:07:37 David Imel? Digital Foundry did a very in-depth thing about the Switch 2 that they put out two days ago. And I would recommend going to look at that. They have a bunch of videos and also write-ups about it.
1:07:48 Andrew Manganelli? Wow, that is a long article.
1:07:49 David Imel? It's super in-depth and they have a bunch of, they have videos for like every portion of it.
1:07:52 Andrew Manganelli? Is it generally?
1:07:54 David Imel? It's generally quite positive. Yeah, they're saying the performance is like way better than they expected and yeah, so.
1:08:00 Andrew Manganelli? Interesting.
1:08:01 David Imel? It's generally very positive.
1:08:02 Speaker 04 All right, David, what's your crown?
1:08:04 David Imel? Well, it was supposed to be Switch 2.
1:08:05 Andrew Manganelli? I mean, it still can be Switch 2 because we have to agree anyways.
1:08:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, we have to agree. So you could just double up if you want.
1:08:10 David Imel? I'm not saying it's good because I don't know because I've never even touched it.
1:08:13 Speaker 04 That's what I'm saying.
1:08:14 David Imel? But I do think it is.
1:08:16 Speaker 04 Only one person in this room has touched it.
1:08:19 David Imel? I have touched it.
1:08:21 Speaker 04 Thanks for clarifying.
1:08:23 David Imel? What other positive things have happened this month?
1:08:25 Andrew Manganelli? Nothing, literally nothing.
1:08:26 David Imel? I have something.
1:08:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, what's yours?
1:08:29 Speaker 01 Okay, well, I have two. One of them is not really a thing. One of them was a Volvo EX90, which we reviewed this month, but it's not, it didn't come out this month. So it's probably not going to win.
1:08:38 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:08:40 Speaker 01 But I just find something else, nice car. In the month of April.
1:08:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:45 Speaker 01 Scientists at Zhejiang University and the University of Cambridge built much, much smaller individual pixels on an LED display. Record-breaking amount, actually. They achieved the smallest pixels ever at 90 nanometers wide.
1:09:03 Andrew Manganelli? You wouldn't know about this.
1:09:04 Speaker 01 And it's hard to explain how small 90 nanometers is, but they've been working on this over and over again and shrinking down and down the pixels over and over. But this 90 nanometer wide pixel achieved a pixel density of 127,000 pixels per inch, which is pretty sick.
1:09:22 David Imel? Virus sized.
1:09:23 Speaker 01 Obviously.
1:09:24 Speaker 04 Oh my god.
1:09:26 Speaker 01 It makes oil paintings look pixelated is how they described it. Now, obviously, there's a lot. There's a lot of challenges that come from having pixels that small, from, you know, drivers.
1:09:37 David Imel? Driving it, yeah.
1:09:38 Speaker 01 Brightness to whatever, all these other things. But I just want to emphasize how small those individual pixels are. If a human hair was a skyscraper, a 90 nanometer object would be a single floor tile.
1:09:52 Speaker 04 Floor tile, not floor.
1:09:54 Andrew Manganelli? Thickness?
1:09:54 Speaker 01 A floor tile, yeah.
1:09:55 Andrew Manganelli? But like, is the floor tile standing up?
1:09:58 Speaker 01 Human hair sideways skyscraper.
1:10:00 David Imel? Well, how, what, what length of human hair?
1:10:03 Speaker 01 It's the width of the human hair.
1:10:05 David Imel? The width of the human hair.
1:10:07 Speaker 01 The width of a human hair is a skyscraper.
1:10:09 David Imel? Holy crap.
1:10:10 Speaker 01 Another way of looking at it, if a red blood cell were a soccer ball, a single pixel would be a grain of sand.
1:10:18 Andrew Manganelli? That one seems not as crazy.
1:10:20 Speaker 01 Yeah. But a red blood cell, you have to know how small a red blood cell is.
1:10:23 David Imel? Right, because I see blood, but I don't know how big this.
1:10:26 Speaker 01 Red blood cells are very small compared to a single hair.
1:10:29 David Imel? A pool, yeah, I don't know.
1:10:31 Speaker 01 So anyway, yeah, 127,000 pixel wrench display is my crown of the month.
1:10:35 Andrew Manganelli? Hold on, I just want to say.
1:10:38 Andrew Manganelli? You guys said it can't be the Switch 2 because I haven't seen it yet, and then you bring out this like, science breaking, lab only.
1:10:45 Speaker 01 You can see it.
1:10:46 Andrew Manganelli? No, no, I'm saying you guys said it to me.
1:10:47 Speaker 01 No, no, no, I don't think that's a, I don't think the rule has to be you have to have seen it. Because we've had previous crowns that are things we haven't seen.
1:10:53 Speaker 04 I'm, I agree.
1:10:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:10:55 Speaker 04 I never said you had to have seen it. I said it had to be out.
1:10:58 Andrew Manganelli? This is in a lab.
1:10:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's in a lab.
1:11:00 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, it includes.
1:11:01 Speaker 01 One of them exists.
1:11:04 Speaker 04 Just one. I see your point, Andrew, and I'm choosing to ignore it.
1:11:07 Andrew Manganelli? Somehow, someone can get us access to making a video on that, though.
1:11:12 David Imel? That would be sick.
1:11:12 Andrew Manganelli? Just saying, I'm pretty sure we would do that.
1:11:15 David Imel? Microscopes.
1:11:16 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, electron microscopes.
1:11:17 Speaker 01 I'll drop a link in the, in the Slack so you guys can look at this thing, because it's pretty.
1:11:22 Andrew Manganelli? That's how those work, right?
1:11:23 David Imel? The ultimate problems.
1:11:24 Speaker 01 Speaking of Slack, I'm gonna tell you what Ellis's crown is for the month. He discovered that there are now HDR emojis in Slack.
1:11:33 David Imel? This isn't, this is, this is not a crown, my friend.
1:11:36 Speaker 01 He thinks it's a crown?
1:11:37 David Imel? It is not.
1:11:38 Andrew Manganelli? HDR emojis?
1:11:39 David Imel? It looks horrible.
1:11:40 Speaker 01 If you're scrolling through on Slack, you'll see a regular emoji, and then you'll see a very bright spot on your screen, which is the other one.
1:11:51 David Imel? It looks broken. Wait, can you post it?
1:11:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm gonna put it in Slack.
1:11:54 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, can you please post that?
1:11:55 Speaker 04 It's in the waveform.
1:11:56 David Imel? It just looks broken. Jesus. It's like glowing on yours.
1:12:00 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, I think it's because I'm in dark mode on Slack.
1:12:02 David Imel? Yeah.
1:12:04 Speaker 01 You're scrolling and just.
1:12:05 Andrew Manganelli? I feel like I'm blinking and seeing it in my.
1:12:08 David Imel? It's definitely SDR on my computer, which I'm happy about.
1:12:10 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:12:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, so that is.
1:12:12 David Imel? Is Alex saying that he likes scrolling through Instagram under his, under his blanket? And just getting blinded randomly in the middle of the.
1:12:18 Speaker 01 Is this his crown?
1:12:19 Speaker 04 This is his crown.
1:12:19 David Imel? That's not I said.
1:12:20 Speaker 01 That's what I said.
1:12:22 Speaker 04 He thinks this is awesome.
1:12:23 Speaker 01 Okay, well, I don't. I think this, I think this should be eligible for the clown. Does he have a clown separately?
1:12:32 Speaker 04 His clown is.
1:12:33 Speaker 01 It's gonna be something amazing.
1:12:33 Speaker 04 No, it's basically Apple getting dinged for the, uh, removing the Apple intelligence coming soon part.
1:12:40 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:12:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:12:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's a clown.
1:12:42 Speaker 04 It's hard to. He said that's his clown.
1:12:44 Speaker 01 That's a good thing.
1:12:45 Speaker 04 Well, that they had it up in the first place.
1:12:47 Speaker 01 Okay, interesting.
1:12:49 David Imel? I asked Gemini, what are the best things that happened in consumer technology in April 2025? And it said the Apple M4 chip launched, which is not, it did not launch this month.
1:12:58 Andrew Manganelli? The Bard upgrade.
1:12:59 Speaker 04 Bard upgrade.
1:13:02 David Imel? That might be April of like three years ago.
1:13:05 Andrew Manganelli? Gemini literally called itself its old, you're asking Gemini, which is what Bard was. And it said.
1:13:12 David Imel? Yeah.
1:13:12 Andrew Manganelli? The Bard AI platform received an update integrating the more advanced Gemini 2.0 model.
1:13:18 David Imel? AI travel planning. Wow, this is horrible. None of these are true. Tick.
1:13:23 Speaker 01 So.
1:13:24 David Imel? I love AI.
1:13:25 Speaker 01 At this point for crown, we're reduced to the Switch 2.
1:13:31 Andrew Manganelli? Or the groundbreaking new technology.
1:13:33 Speaker 01 27,000 pixel per inch display or the HDR emoji.
1:13:36 Andrew Manganelli? Imagine the HDR emoji on.
1:13:39 Speaker 01 On that display?
1:13:40 Andrew Manganelli? Woo.
1:13:40 Speaker 01 Crisp, crisp.
1:13:42 Andrew Manganelli? Cooked, eyes cooked.
1:13:43 David Imel? Eyes cooked.
1:13:44 Speaker 01 Vectors, I'd say all kinds of vectors.
1:13:46 David Imel? Beats cables.
1:13:48 Speaker 01 That was one of those mid things that happened that we forgot about within 30 seconds of it happening.
1:13:52 David Imel? But I thought you said it was the biggest story of the year.
1:13:54 Speaker 01 Oh, I did say that, didn't I? I was lying.
1:13:59 David Imel? Damn.
1:14:00 Speaker 04 Elephant.
1:14:01 David Imel? I thought you were serious.
1:14:02 Andrew Manganelli? I mean, it's hard to vote against. I feel like every time I just give up on my answer, but.
1:14:06 David Imel? How about?
1:14:07 Andrew Manganelli? It is a pretty cool screen. I have a question.
1:14:09 David Imel? Okay.
1:14:10 Andrew Manganelli? All those pictures look like they were green pixels only. Can the pixels change colors?
1:14:15 Speaker 04 Don't worry about it.
1:14:16 Andrew Manganelli? Uh, if it's green only.
1:14:18 David Imel? What do you mean green only?
1:14:19 Andrew Manganelli? I don't know.
1:14:20 David Imel? Are they green? How about?
1:14:23 David Imel? Yeah.
1:14:23 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, okay. Never mind. David was looking at something else.
1:14:26 David Imel? What about Sam Altman potentially buying his own company?
1:14:30 Andrew Manganelli? Clown.
1:14:30 Speaker 04 You already said yours. Yours is the switch.
1:14:32 David Imel? Yeah, it's the switch two.
1:14:33 Andrew Manganelli? Okay. I think it's the switch two.
1:14:35 David Imel? Come on.
1:14:36 Speaker 04 It's probably.
1:14:36 David Imel? It's like the biggest, it's the most talked about thing this month.
1:14:40 Andrew Manganelli? Which.
1:14:41 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:14:41 Andrew Manganelli? Doesn't necessarily mean.
1:14:43 David Imel? That isn't negative. Yeah.
1:14:45 Andrew Manganelli? There was a lot of negative stuff about it, but I think some of it was blown out of proportion.
1:14:49 David Imel? Yeah.
1:14:49 Andrew Manganelli? And some of it's totally reasonable criticism.
1:14:51 Speaker 04 All right, I'll fold. I'll go, I'll go, I'll go switch to.
1:14:54 David Imel? Let's go.
1:14:54 Andrew Manganelli? Let's go.
1:14:55 Speaker 04 What is the, what is the clown then? I.
1:14:57 David Imel? The clown.
1:14:59 Andrew Manganelli? Tariffs. Reciprocal tariffs. They came out the same day, actually. The clown and the clown came out the same day.
1:15:04 Speaker 04 That's a good point.
1:15:05 David Imel? I was gonna go Blue Origin PR stunt.
1:15:08 Speaker 04 Oh, yes.
1:15:09 Andrew Manganelli? Never mind. I lose.
1:15:10 David Imel? Actually, I think that's it.
1:15:12 Speaker 04 I think that's it.
1:15:13 David Imel? That was my clown.
1:15:14 Speaker 04 What about, um, 23andMe selling their data?
1:15:18 Andrew Manganelli? They sold it?
1:15:19 Speaker 04 Going bankrupt.
1:15:20 Andrew Manganelli? Has it happened yet? Or did it get sold? That was not a clown yet.
1:15:23 Speaker 04 Not yet.
1:15:24 Andrew Manganelli? But that was last month.
1:15:25 David Imel? I know, but remember last month we were like, April clown?
1:15:28 Andrew Manganelli? It's like the buyer could be horrible, but it.
1:15:30 David Imel? Yeah, they haven't sold yet.
1:15:31 Speaker 04 Okay, cool. Perfect. So, yeah.
1:15:33 David Imel? I think Blue Origin is the best one.
1:15:35 Andrew Manganelli? I think Adam's got one, but it's a hard one to top.
1:15:38 Speaker 04 Okay, so my clown then is something that I just realized yesterday, which is that my phone number has been tied up in iMessage for like two months now, since I switched to the Pixel.
1:15:50 David Imel? So you.
1:15:50 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
1:15:51 Speaker 01 Missed a thousand messages.
1:15:53 Speaker 04 Ellis texted me and on Slack, he's like, yo, I texted you. And I'm like, no, you didn't. And then I saw it pop up on the messages app in my computer. And then when I opened that up, there was like 30 missed messages. And I was like, how is this still a problem? How are we still dealing with this?
1:16:06 Speaker 01 This is along the lines of that tech question I had maybe two or three weeks ago, which is like the RCS thing not working on my phone. Yeah. Which I think on the iPhone, you have to turn off.
1:16:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, I did.
1:16:16 Speaker 01 You do.
1:16:16 Speaker 04 I didn't do it on my laptop, which is a separate thing. And that's why it all went to my laptop.
1:16:22 Speaker 01 Why I still carry two phones.
1:16:22 Speaker 04 Did you figure it out?
1:16:23 Speaker 01 I haven't figured it out, but it has gradually started working with more and more threads.
1:16:29 Speaker 04 I've seen a lot of suggestions of similar issues. I know you said you tried some of them, but there were people, some of them were like.
1:16:36 Speaker 01 Oh, I tried them.
1:16:37 Speaker 04 You had to like sign out and then like restart your phone and then all this.
1:16:40 Speaker 01 Yep. No, I tried. I went through the comments. I tried basically everything everyone was suggesting and nothing was working. And then a couple of days later, I tried an RCS message to someone I usually RCS message and it worked. And I was like, oh, oh RCS. And then I tried another thread and it's like SMS.
1:16:57 Speaker 01 Adam, that's crazy because like Ellis and Brandon must also have had their iMessage things like mess up because they never respond to me either.
1:17:05 Speaker 04 So Brandon was one of the people that I had gotten a message from him like three weeks ago. And then I had to reply like, sorry, can, can you resend all this? Because it's stuck on my computer now.
1:17:17 Speaker 01 Damn.
1:17:17 Speaker 04 Very annoying.
1:17:18 Speaker 01 I didn't text you, so.
1:17:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, you never text me.
1:17:20 Speaker 01 I just tried Telegram, you know, which is terrible. Clown.
1:17:24 Speaker 04 That's the clown. That's the true clown.
1:17:26 Speaker 01 That's the world.
1:17:27 Speaker 04 David's still using Telegram.
1:17:29 Speaker 01 Problems that you were both having, you know? All I do is get a bunch of fake spam messages every day. So I like it that way.
1:17:37 Speaker 04 Are we in agreement? Crown is switched to clown is Blue Origin?
1:17:42 Speaker 01 Yeah. I think that's, yeah, that's April 2025 right there.
1:17:45 Speaker 04 That's it. Yeah.
1:17:46 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:17:46 Speaker 04 There's April. Oh, that's pretty, we should do a year long calendar.
1:17:50 Speaker 01 End of the year.
1:17:50 Speaker 04 At the end of the year, that's a calendar and it has.
1:17:53 Speaker 01 Crown and clown from every month. Collect them all.
1:17:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:17:55 Speaker 01 Gotta collect them all. June is probably also gonna be switched to.
1:18:00 Speaker 04 Switch to two.
1:18:01 Speaker 01 Switch to two, the switching. We'll see how June goes. Either way, hey, that's been it. We should do the trivia questions. Oh, yeah.
1:18:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, dude. Okay. You didn't even do the wait for it.
1:18:15 David Imel? You did not wait for it.
1:18:15 Andrew Manganelli? 127,000 pixels per inch. That's crazy.
1:18:18 Speaker 04 Pretty insane.
1:18:20 David Imel? Okay. The sphere in Las Vegas is about to, about to shutter.
1:18:23 Speaker 04 Imagine the sphere in Las Vegas at 127,000 PPI.
1:18:27 David Imel? Yeah. In HDR?
1:18:29 Speaker 04 No. It would, it would look, the space would look like this slack HDR emoji.
1:18:35 David Imel? Las Vegas looks like an HDR emoji from a plane.
1:18:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:18:38 David Imel? The rest of the city is kind of dim and there's just a blasting one in the middle. It also has emojis on it, on the sphere.
1:18:44 Andrew Manganelli? That's exactly, that's what it is. It's an HDR emoji.
1:18:46 David Imel? I was in a hotel in Vegas a couple of months ago and I opened my windows in the morning and it was just the giant emoji staring back at me.
1:18:56 Speaker 04 All right. So these are all Google services grabbed from the Google graveyard. Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others? Who share your interests?
1:19:08 David Imel? It lasted 11 months.
1:19:09 Speaker 04 And it lasted 11 months. A, Grasshopper. B, Streams. C, Polly. Or D, Shoelace?
1:19:19 Andrew Manganelli? Wait, what is it?
1:19:21 Speaker 04 A, Grasshopper.
1:19:22 Andrew Manganelli? No, no, what was the question again?
1:19:23 Speaker 04 Oh, which of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests?
1:19:29 Andrew Manganelli? I'm so mad that I changed my answer, which means the first one was definitely right.
1:19:33 David Imel? Whenever I do that, I just cross it out so that the world knows that I actually thought the right answer.
1:19:37 Speaker 04 Nice. Okay.
1:19:38 David Imel? Okay, we have different answers here.
1:19:40 Speaker 04 All right.
1:19:40 David Imel? I don't know the answer, so I can guess. I said, uh, Grasshopper.
1:19:44 Speaker 04 Grasshopper?
1:19:45 David Imel? Yeah.
1:19:46 Speaker 04 Incorrect.
1:19:47 Andrew Manganelli? That's what I had at first.
1:19:48 David Imel? Andrew and I both put Shoelace.
1:19:49 Speaker 04 You both put Shoelace.
1:19:50 David Imel? Well, I put D. Was that Shoelace?
1:19:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:19:52 David Imel? It was.
1:19:52 Speaker 04 Okay. Yeah, because you go, you gotta lace up your shoes to go do an activity.
1:19:56 David Imel? Well, is that why you thought?
1:19:58 Speaker 04 That's why I thought it, right? It's to find new activities. So I'm gonna go do my activity with my friend.
1:20:03 David Imel? I sort of remember this launching, because it was only a couple of years ago, right?
1:20:06 Speaker 04 Um, 20, wait, let me find it. One second.
1:20:12 David Imel? Also, what was?
1:20:12 Speaker 04 2020, it shut down.
1:20:14 David Imel? Yeah.
1:20:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, okay.
1:20:15 David Imel? Also, what was option A?
1:20:17 Speaker 04 Grasshopper. Grasshopper.
1:20:18 David Imel? What was B?
1:20:20 Speaker 04 Streams.
1:20:20 David Imel? What was C?
1:20:21 Speaker 04 Polly.
1:20:22 David Imel? Yeah, okay.
1:20:23 Andrew Manganelli? What was D?
1:20:24 David Imel? Grasshopper is a thing in Google.
1:20:27 Andrew Manganelli? He said they're all things.
1:20:28 Speaker 04 Not anymore. They were all things, but now they're all dead.
1:20:30 David Imel? Oh, well, at least he got the point.
1:20:31 Speaker 04 All right, question two.
1:20:32 David Imel? Yeah.
1:20:33 Andrew Manganelli? Nothing about this shoelace app screams Google at all.
1:20:36 Speaker 04 Really?
1:20:37 David Imel? Yeah, it looks like it was made in Canva.
1:20:40 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah. No, it literally does.
1:20:43 Speaker 04 That's the worst thing you can say.
1:20:45 David Imel? It looks like you made this in Canva.
1:20:47 Andrew Manganelli? This episode sponsored by Kim.
1:20:51 Andrew Manganelli? That would be really funny.
1:20:52 Speaker 04 They probably did make it in Canva.
1:20:54 David Imel? Oh, God.
1:20:54 Speaker 04 Okay. Twitter announced the public verification system in what year?
1:21:00 David Imel? Public verification.
1:21:02 Speaker 04 The PV. And then they got flooded with requests and they shut it down that same year.
1:21:07 David Imel? My pen is like not working at all, but.
1:21:11 David Imel? Here, just do this. Yeah, here, right over it.
1:21:15 Speaker 04 I'll give you an extra point if you get the month.
1:21:18 David Imel? Ooh.
1:21:24 Speaker 04 All right, flip them and read. What do we got?
1:21:27 David Imel? I'm once again guessing.
1:21:28 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:21:29 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, I went way later than both of you.
1:21:32 David Imel? Oh, we'll go in order. I guess June 2012.
1:21:37 Speaker 04 Incorrect.
1:21:37 David Imel? Are we just closest here or?
1:21:39 Speaker 04 Ah, sure, sure. Let's do closest delta.
1:21:42 David Imel? Okay. I did March 2014.
1:21:45 Speaker 04 March 2014?
1:21:46 David Imel? Yeah.
1:21:47 Speaker 04 Nope.
1:21:47 David Imel? Wow.
1:21:48 Andrew Manganelli? I did June 2021.
1:21:49 Speaker 04 June 2021.
1:21:53 Speaker 04 Wrong one. Incorrect.
1:21:56 David Imel? I think you were thinking of Elon's verification.
1:21:59 Andrew Manganelli? When did he buy it?
1:22:00 David Imel? 2021?
1:22:02 Andrew Manganelli? Was it 2021?
1:22:03 David Imel? Or was it 2022?
1:22:04 Andrew Manganelli? I thought it was very close before he bought it is when they added that form that was like, I am blank, blank, blank, blank.
1:22:11 David Imel? That was a long time.
1:22:12 Speaker 04 That's when they brought it back. This is the first time.
1:22:15 David Imel? Oh, yeah.
1:22:16 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:22:16 Andrew Manganelli? That I was thinking of?
1:22:17 Speaker 04 The correct answer was July 2016. So David gets the point.
1:22:23 David Imel? Let's go. 2016. Wow, that's late.
1:22:25 Speaker 04 Huh.
1:22:25 David Imel? That is late.
1:22:26 Andrew Manganelli? I knew I was thinking of the second one.
1:22:29 David Imel? I thought I got verified in 2015.
1:22:32 Andrew Manganelli? You probably got verified before the public request.
1:22:34 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:22:36 David Imel? Cool.
1:22:36 Andrew Manganelli? Yep. All right. That was it. Quick update underscore Marques18, Andrew9, David21. David, you can legally drink now.
1:22:43 David Imel? Let's go.
1:22:44 Andrew Manganelli? I'm older than the oldest YouTube video.
1:22:46 David Imel? That's right. That's right.
1:22:48 Andrew Manganelli? Or not older.
1:22:49 David Imel? Also.
1:22:50 Andrew Manganelli? More points.
1:22:50 David Imel? Yeah, the day this goes live, I'll be 10 years older than.
1:22:54 Andrew Manganelli? Whoa. Oh, yeah. Everyone say happy birthday to David.
1:22:57 David Imel? Woo, happy birthday.
1:22:58 Andrew Manganelli? If you made it this far.
1:23:00 David Imel? If you made it this far, then you know when David's birthday is. Officially dust.
1:23:03 Speaker 01 Drop your comments below in between all the which language do you prefer the dub to be comments? We appreciate both of those.
1:23:09 David Imel? Say happy birthday in a different language.
1:23:10 Andrew Manganelli? Do it.
1:23:11 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:23:11 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, that's cool.
1:23:12 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:23:13 Andrew Manganelli? Feliz cumpleaños.
1:23:13 Speaker 01 Yeah. Uh, but yeah, we'll be back, of course, in May. That's the next month. May.
1:23:20 David Imel? Wow. Is that true?
1:23:21 Speaker 01 May, we already know.
1:23:23 David Imel? What about April 30th? Oh, wait, but they'll not see us until.
1:23:26 Speaker 01 Until May. They won't see us.
1:23:28 David Imel? May 2nd.
1:23:28 Speaker 01 Exactly.
1:23:29 David Imel? May 3rd.
1:23:29 Speaker 01 So we'll see you in May. It's gonna be May, et cetera, et cetera. Appreciate y'all. Thanks for subscribing. Thanks for watching. Thanks for commenting. Catch y'all in the next episode. Peace.
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